1 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Thirty five on its way up to fifty five. 2 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 2: Today we have sunshine in the capital city. 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: My name is Casey, that is Jim. Thank you so 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: much for being here this morning. So there was a 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: large batch of Epstein files that were released by the 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: DOJ Europe reacting strongly. Politicians, diplomats, elites all with links 7 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: to Epstein are facing some consequences. And in Britain the 8 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: scandal has hit their government officials. Hard officials connected to 9 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: Epstein have resigned or been removed. The same is not 10 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: happening here in this country. 11 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think there's this narrative out there that's 12 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 3: starting to build that's like, hey, it seems like United 13 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 3: Kingdom has taking this seriously and trying to hold these 14 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 3: people that are connected to the Epstein files more accountable 15 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 3: than what's going on in the United States. And there 16 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 3: may be a little bit of that, but there are 17 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 3: devil's always in the details here. And what is really 18 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 3: crushing some of these British politicians, and specifically the former 19 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: UK ambassador to the United States his last name is Mandelson, 20 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 3: is that not only are is he and both Prince 21 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: Andrew heavily involved and mentioned in a lot of you know, 22 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 3: circumstantial but still ugly looking situations in the Epstein files. 23 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 3: But the real problem there is there are allegations that 24 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 3: both the former ambassador from the UK to the United 25 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 3: States and Prince Andrew traded confidential, classified British secrets to Epstein. 26 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 3: And there looks to be some pretty strong evidence of 27 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 3: that that's being released in the Epstein files. So that 28 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 3: really elevates it to a much higher level that goes 29 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 3: beyond circumstantial evidence around you know what, everything that's going 30 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 3: on in the Epstein case. This evidence of them potentially 31 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 3: selling secrets or giving secrets to Epstein looks to be 32 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 3: a much stronger case. So I think that's why you're 33 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 3: starting to see these British politicians be held a lot 34 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 3: more accountable because it's just it's more than just being 35 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 3: in the Epstein files. 36 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: So Peter Mandelsson, and every time I say that name, 37 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: I think of Mandelbaum from the Seinfeld episode Mandelbaum. 38 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 3: The old man who keeps getting injured while exercising. 39 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 40 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: So Peter Mandelson, he's the former UK ambassador to the 41 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: United States. He lost his position because of ties to Epstein. 42 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: You've got the UK Prime Minister Kure Starmer, he's under 43 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: pressure because of it. His appointment decisions he put these 44 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: people in place, and also his chief of staff and 45 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: communications director has resigned over it. Starmer refused to resign, 46 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: saying that he's going to fight for his job. But 47 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:46,119 Speaker 1: here you have a US Congressman Rocanna, and he has 48 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: warned that the Epstein fallout could topple the British monarchy. 49 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 4: What did you say to Leman formally known as Prince 50 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 4: Andrew and Peter Mandelsson. 51 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 3: I forgot to giving evidence to your committee. 52 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 5: Mandelsson may bring down the whole government from what I here. 53 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 5: You know, you just engaged. 54 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 3: In terrible behavior. 55 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 5: I mean, the allegations are very serious, that he was 56 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 5: working for Gordon Brown and then feeding information about UK 57 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 5: possibly buying Euros and having Epstein trade on that. I mean, 58 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 5: it is a deeply, deeply troubling and you know Epstein's 59 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 5: I saw this interview with Epstein's former girlfriend talking about 60 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 5: how someone is a loser if they weren't mentioned in 61 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 5: the Epstein files. It's a window, It's a window into 62 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 5: the elite impunity this club. 63 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 3: And by the way, I think this is. 64 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 5: The most vulnerable the British monarchy has ever been. I mean, 65 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 5: I heard they were asking the queen questions about the 66 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 5: Epstein class. They ought to ask the king and queen 67 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 5: questions and maybe this will be the end of the monarchy. 68 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 4: Wow. 69 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: So some strong political fallaw happening there, resignations, investigations, leadership crisis. 70 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: All of this tie to the Epstein files. In the 71 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: United States, However, so many powerful people appear to be 72 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: in the files. Few have faced so consequences so far. 73 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: I wanted to play this audio just because it's fun. 74 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: This is King Charles being heckled over his brother Andrew's 75 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: ties to Jeffrey Epstein on the same day that Maxwell 76 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: pleaded the Fifth Amendment during the House Oversight Committee, deposition choos, 77 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: how long. 78 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 6: Have you known about and you in that stage n 79 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 6: th sausitution? 80 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 2: Have you been protecting Andre? 81 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 3: Can't have any meat if you don't can't have any 82 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 3: pudding if you don't eat your meat. 83 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 6: Job. 84 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 3: That's what it sounded like. Actually, if you didn't see 85 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 3: the video of that, you could have easily mistaken that 86 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 3: for the House of Commons British Parliament, because that's generally 87 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 3: what the British Parliament sounds like it usually sounds like 88 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 3: some politicians standing up there yelling loudly at a bunch 89 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 3: of chattering from the peanut gallery. 90 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: So you've got some of the lawmakers who've been allowed 91 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: to see the unwrapped, unredacted files that took place in 92 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: a secure DOJ reading room, this after Congress passed a 93 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,679 Speaker 1: law forcing the release of the documents. However, you could 94 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: argue that it's obstruction of justice because not all of 95 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: the files have been released. You put that to Pambondi 96 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: and also Cash Patel, who who said there were no conspirators. 97 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: And last night, it was around midnight, they were unredacting names, 98 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: one of them being Les Wexner, So they're naming him 99 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: as a co conspirator. So what was it when Cash 100 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: Pattel said on record, no, there are no co conspirators. 101 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 3: Look, you know, the stock for Pambondi and Cash Battel 102 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 3: keeps falling every day that goes by. In the Trump administration, 103 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 3: they've been for the most part, huge disappointments. Or what 104 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 3: they really did is they over promised and under delivered. 105 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 3: You know, when it was campaign season, whether the you know, 106 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 3: the political election in twenty twenty four or when they 107 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 3: were campaigning to get these jobs. In the Trumpet innistation, 108 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 3: they made the classic mistake, which was over promised on 109 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 3: what you could do and then once you got in there, 110 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 3: you under delivered on it. And that's exactly what Pam 111 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 3: Bondi and Cash Bettel have done. But thank goodness, we've 112 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 3: got some lawmakers that aren't going to let this issue die. 113 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 3: And I think Thomas Massey kind of leads the top 114 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 3: of the pack there, but there have been others, whether 115 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 3: it's Nancy Mace or Marjorie Taylor Green, that have really 116 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 3: kept pushing this and are not going to let this 117 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 3: issue die. And thank goodness, we've got some politicians in 118 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 3: there like that that are going to keep pressing. Thomas Massey. 119 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: Well, Marjorie Taylor Green not even in office anymore. But 120 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: it seems like Bobert has picked up that Mantle, Massey 121 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: and Connor. They're pushing the DOJ to remove the unnecessary 122 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: reactions and fully comply with the law. 123 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: Here's James Comer. 124 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: He's from the House Oversight Committee, and he says that 125 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: their goal remains unchanged, uncover the truth and secure justice 126 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: for the survivors as expected. 127 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 7: Elie Maxwell took the fifth and refused to answer any questions. 128 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 7: This is, obviously is very disappointing. We had many questions 129 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 7: to ask about the crime she and Epstein committed, as 130 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 7: well as questions about potential co conspirators. We sincerely want 131 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 7: to get to the truth through American people and justice 132 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 7: for the survivors. That's what this investigation is about. I 133 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 7: want to mention the next steps. We can confirm we 134 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 7: have five more depositions in the book scheduled for. 135 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 8: The Epstein investigation. 136 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 7: On February eighteenth, Lex Wexner, who was a financial client 137 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 7: of Epstein, and I believe the former CEO of Victoria 138 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 7: secret February twenty six We have former Secretary of State 139 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 7: Hillary Clinton February twenty seventh, Former President Bill Clinton March eleventh, 140 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 7: Richard Kahn, Epstein's accountant in March nineteenth during Indike, Epstein's lawyer. 141 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 7: So we will continue to move forward and try to 142 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 7: get answers for the American pointment. 143 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: So you've got Pam Bonni who just said that if 144 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: we prosecute everyone in the Epstein files, the whole system 145 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: would collapse. 146 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 3: Okay, right, exactly what's the bad news? 147 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? 148 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 3: Wait, you mean the entire, the entire system of elites 149 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 3: protecting other elites. 150 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: And I don't believe that for one minute, because a 151 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: lot of those people are aging and they're not as 152 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: powerful as perhaps they want once were. You have Gilene 153 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:28,119 Speaker 1: Maxwell refusing to answer questions during that closed door House 154 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: Oversight committee. She invoked her Fifth Amendment right and is 155 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: now asking for clemency, which hopefully she won't get. She 156 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: needs to be in even a more secure prison, a 157 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: tougher sentence, not a lighter one. 158 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's no surprise that she took the fifth. I mean, 159 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 3: she was Jeffrey Epstein's right hand man. She was involved 160 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 3: in all the horrors that took place around the Epstein files. 161 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 3: She's been convicted, she's serving prison time. No surprise that 162 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 3: she's the type of person that is going to plead 163 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 3: the fifth. And I think most of Americans obviously are 164 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 3: disgusted by everything that took happened, frustrated by what seems 165 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 3: to be more global and political elites protecting other global 166 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 3: and political elites. My biggest frustration with all of this 167 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 3: is my guess is, and this is just a guess, 168 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 3: that what comes out of this, we're going to be 169 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 3: really disappointed at the at how little justice I think 170 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 3: we're going to get served here. Almost everything that we've 171 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 3: seen so far in the Epstein file, while gross and disgusting, 172 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 3: is for the most part, circumstantial, And I don't see 173 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 3: a lot here that's the smoking gun that you're like, Oh, 174 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 3: that's it, we can take this person to trial and 175 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 3: easily get a conviction on this evidence. I just I 176 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 3: don't see that anywhere. You've had a lot of these 177 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 3: ex Epstein victims that while they want the information to 178 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 3: come out, they've been reticent to name names. I get that. 179 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 3: Look you're talking about, you know, publicly outing very powerful 180 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 3: people around the world. There's other Epstein victims that have 181 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 3: been part of settlements already that may include non disclosure 182 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 3: agreements where they can't talk about this. It just seems 183 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 3: like at the like, we're never going to see people 184 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 3: go to jail. That's my biggest fear of this. We're 185 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 3: never going to see more people go to jail for this. 186 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 3: So what do we have left at this point? Just 187 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 3: tell us the truth and get as much transparency out 188 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 3: of this as possible. I think that's as close to 189 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 3: justice as we're probably going to get with the Epstein files. 190 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: Thomas Massey he had a stand up after he reviewed 191 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: some of the files, and he said there were names 192 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: of at least six men that were redacted in the 193 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: files that perhaps shouldn't be. 194 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 2: We'll get to that coming up. 195 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: You're listening to ninety three WIBC. The White House is 196 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: rejecting calls for Howard Lutnik to resign, this after there 197 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: were emails and documents that say he was still having 198 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: contact and dealings with Epstein even after Epstein's two thousand 199 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: and eight conviction. Of course, the White House is defending Lutnik, 200 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: saying that the controversy controversy is a political distraction, and 201 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: they are standing by him. 202 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is what I talked about earlier. I 203 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 3: think we all want justice here. We all know some awful, 204 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 3: terrible things happen, and we want some people to go 205 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 3: to prison for it. But and Howard Lutnik is mentioned 206 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 3: in those Epstein files a ton of times. I just 207 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 3: don't see anything in there, and I've looked at as 208 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 3: many of them as I possibly can. I don't see 209 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 3: anything in there that you can take to a court 210 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 3: of law and say this guy broke this law. And 211 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 3: I think we can get a conviction here. But it 212 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 3: is awful, and it is creepy, and it is terrible 213 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 3: Howard Lutnik. So I don't know what's standard. We're going 214 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 3: to sit here and apply to our public officials to 215 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 3: be able to hold them accountable to this. So, in 216 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 3: Howard Lutnik's specific situation, he has come out and publicly 217 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 3: said that he severed all ties with Jeffrey Epstein in 218 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 3: two thousand and five, severed all ties, and then in 219 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 3: two thousand and eight, Jeffrey Epstein is convicted of pedophilia. 220 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 3: But now we find out from these emails that Howard 221 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 3: Lutnik visited Epstein Island in twenty twelve, talked. There were 222 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 3: emails that talking about him planning a trip, and then 223 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 3: there were emails afterwards where it was nice seeing you. 224 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,719 Speaker 3: They were in a business partnership, showed documents showed that 225 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 3: both men's were investing in this advertising tech company, and 226 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 3: Lutnik's signature appears on a twenty twelve contract alongside of Epstein's. Again, 227 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 3: Lutnick said I severed all ties with him in two 228 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 3: thousand and five. Not true. Lutnik invited Epstein to a 229 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:34,719 Speaker 3: quote intimate fundraiser for Hillary Clinton. In twenty fifteen, Epstein's 230 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 3: foundation donated fifty thousand dollars to a charity event hosted 231 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 3: by Lutnik. There were emails exchanged in twenty eighteen. I 232 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 3: think maybe that's where we're going to end up on 233 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 3: this is Okay, we know Epstein was convicted convicted of 234 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 3: pedophilia in two thousand and eight, what and everybody knew 235 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 3: that that was public information. It's all out there. Now, 236 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 3: what was your relationship with Epstein after that? And I 237 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 3: think that may end up being the only standard here 238 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 3: that we can find to apply to people, to hold 239 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 3: them accountable for what happened. 240 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing he said, he cut ties, and 241 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: then these government documents show that they had continued contacts. 242 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: So it's definitely a credibility problem. Whether you're a Republican 243 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 1: or Democrat. People in power, they have to be honest 244 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 1: about their associations. Donald Trump has come out and said 245 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: multiple times that he was not involved in any nefarious 246 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: activity on the island, and then the document showed that 247 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: he in fact was helping the FBI to convict Epstein. 248 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 2: You've got this former FBI agent. 249 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: His name is Steve Lazarus, and he says, this is 250 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 1: all just one big cover up. 251 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 8: This is in transparency. It's a cover up. And here's 252 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 8: how it works. They show you flight logs, emails, PG 253 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 8: rated photos, fragments of conversations that have been stripped of 254 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 8: the meat. A few big names get thrown under the bus. 255 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 8: It's just enough to feel disturbing, but never enough to 256 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 8: prove anything about the real players. That's what you'll see 257 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 8: in this massive document dump. What you won't see is context. 258 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,719 Speaker 8: You won't see corroboration, and you definitely won't see accountability 259 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 8: because that's not the point. This is a weaponized DOJ 260 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 8: strategy of controlled confusion, and it's working perfectly. You see. 261 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 8: They don't protect powerful people by erasing evidence. They protect 262 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 8: them by releasing it slowly, by delaying key documents, by 263 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 8: over redacting names, and by letting the public fight over 264 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 8: the scraps. If we're not too distracted by the latest 265 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 8: military invasion of a third world country or a major 266 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 8: US city, chaos becomes their cover. The goal isn't to 267 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 8: reveal the truth, it's to survive it. So read the files, 268 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 8: but don't confuse access with justice, because sometimes the most 269 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 8: effective cover up is letting you see just. 270 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: Enough, oh, or don't read the files if you don't 271 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: want to be completely grossed out. 272 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's part of it too. And I think maybe 273 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 3: another way that we can hold these people accountable is 274 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 3: is calling them to testify in front of Congress, similar 275 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 3: to what we're doing with Bill and Hillary Clinton. And 276 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 3: there's been discussions and talk about members of the House 277 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 3: Oversight Committee, you know, potentially subpoenia, subpoena ing Howard Lutnik 278 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 3: to testify in front of Congress, because at least then 279 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 3: we can ask the tough questions, we can get them 280 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 3: under oath on their statements from it, and then if 281 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 3: more information gets released later showing that they potentially lied 282 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 3: under oath, then maybe that's some way that we can 283 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 3: get some justice out of this. But I hadn't heard 284 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 3: that clip before that we just played at that former 285 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 3: FBI agent, but it sounds like he was saying a 286 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 3: lot of the things that I just said, like, don't 287 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 3: expect to see justice here because it's probably not going 288 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 3: to happen. 289 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: So you've got Thomas Massey and he said that there 290 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: are names of at least six men that were redacted 291 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: in the files, and he said that one of them 292 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: was pretty high up in foreign government. 293 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 4: They need to do a little more homework. There are 294 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 4: six men. We went in there for two hours. There's 295 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 4: millions of files right and in a couple of ours 296 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 4: we found six men whose names have been redacted, who 297 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 4: are implicated in the way that the files are presented. 298 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 4: And finally, the documents that they put up and decided, 299 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 4: for one reason or another, they had to take back down. 300 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 4: I was hoping to see those here. They didn't appear 301 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 4: to be in the database that we were able to search. 302 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 4: Those ostensibly are wholly redacted files. Now we know they exist. 303 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 4: They published them for a brief period of time and 304 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 4: pulled them back. 305 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 3: They need to. 306 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 4: Answer to us as to do they intend to redact 307 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 4: those files and put them back up and put them 308 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 4: in the database so that we can search them and 309 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 4: see if it was appropriate to take them back down 310 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 4: from the website. 311 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: Are these are the US citizens? What fields do they 312 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: work in? Are is it finance? 313 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 6: Is it political? 314 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 4: At least one is a US citizen, at least one 315 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 4: is a foreigner, and the other three or four have names. 316 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 4: I'm not sure if they're foreigner US. 317 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 3: And which field do they work in? Is it finance, banking? 318 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 7: Political? 319 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 4: One is pretty high up in the foreign government. 320 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 5: And some are One of the others is a pretty 321 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 5: prominent individual. 322 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: So later last night, one of the names that was 323 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: unredacted was Les Wesner, and he's an American billionaire and 324 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: he's a founder of l Brands, which is the parent 325 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: company for Victoria's Secrets, and also Bathom body Works. And 326 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: one of the reasons that Massey did not mention the 327 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: names right then and there, he said he was going 328 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: to wait to do it on the house floor because 329 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: I believe he cannot be sued for defamation if he 330 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: does that on the house floor rather than out in 331 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: front of cameras. 332 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 3: And I and you know, God bless Howard, you know, 333 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 3: Massy for continuing to press this issue here. And I 334 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 3: think this is a lot what we've talked about on 335 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 3: the show for months and months now is that you know, 336 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 3: we can get caught up in this battle of left 337 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 3: versus right, and Republicans versus Democrats, but that's not that's 338 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 3: not really the fight anymore. It is us versus the 339 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 3: elites and the Jeffrey Epstein files crystallize that battle that's 340 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 3: going on right now perfectly because these are elites trying 341 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 3: to protect and cover up for other elites, and it's us, 342 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 3: the American people, that are trying to bust that up 343 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 3: and try to get to the truth and find some 344 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 3: form of justice for these victims. 345 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 2: You're listening to ninety three WIBC. The BMB has posted 346 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 2: a new policy. They did that over the weekend. 347 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: They will no longer allow people to change the gender marker, 348 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: which is the gender shown on their driver's license or 349 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: state ID, even with a court order or a doctor's note. 350 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 2: Previously, you could update. 351 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: Your gender on the Indiana credentials using a core order 352 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: or something from a physician's statement, but not anymore. And 353 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: the new rule went into effect after the administrative rules 354 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: process that included two public heroes. 355 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, this was part of mark one of Mike Braun's 356 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 3: executive orders that he signed after he came into office 357 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 3: last year, which directed state agencies, which all agencies, So 358 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 3: this goes beyond just the BMV to implement policies based 359 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 3: on biological sex as assigned at birth. And this law 360 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 3: takes effect or this rule takes effect this Thursday. So 361 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 3: that's when this is going to officially be part of that. 362 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 3: And I think that you know, most of us will 363 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 3: look at this and say, well, yeah, that's common sense. 364 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 3: I didn't realize. I didn't even know that you could 365 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 3: change your sex that was listed on your driver's license 366 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 3: up until this executive order came out and we were 367 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 3: talking about it because it was in the news. But 368 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 3: I think it makes a lot of sense. I think 369 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 3: frustrates most Americans and certainly most Hoosiers out there, is 370 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 3: it's the whole concept of gender dysphoria or gender being 371 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 3: a fluid situation, or gender being a social construct construct 372 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 3: is just absolutely foreign to most Americans. You were either 373 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 3: born with lady parts when you were born or you 374 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 3: were born with man parts when you were born. And 375 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 3: the concept that gender is a social construct is just 376 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 3: because you say those words doesn't mean it's true. I'm 377 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 3: looking at my driver's license right now, so it's got 378 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 3: my name on there, and it's got my address. My 379 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 3: address isn't a social construct. I live in Indianapolis. If 380 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 3: I just want to walk into the BMV and show 381 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 3: no proof that now all of a sudden, I live 382 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 3: in Hamilton County, I can't do that. I live in Indianapolis, 383 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 3: but I identify as living in Hamilton County. The other 384 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 3: thing on here is my birthday and my age. Age 385 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 3: is into social construct. It's a firm data point. I 386 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 3: know exactly when I was born and therefore how old 387 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 3: I am. So if we can say gender is a 388 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 3: social construct, then why can't we say that age is 389 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 3: a social construct. Because if it is, I identify as 390 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 3: a sixty seven year old, which means I can take 391 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 3: full retirement from Social Security. Wouldn't that be convened if 392 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 3: we just say things and all of a sudden they're true. 393 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 3: Gender is a social construct. Fine, age is a social construct. 394 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 3: I'm claiming social security today even though I'm fifty one 395 00:20:58,440 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 3: years old. 396 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Indiana, and clear biological binary definitions of sex for 397 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: state ideas, and that is in line with the governor's direction, 398 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: and that means that state documents will reflect physical realities 399 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: rather than evolving ideology. 400 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 2: Critics are saying. 401 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: That it's harsh, but state rules on official credentials shouldn't 402 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: be driven by ideology, just clear consistent standards for identification. Now, 403 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:29,719 Speaker 1: if you ask the governor of Kentucky, he's got a 404 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: whole different idea on this Democrat. 405 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 3: Compare, yeah, compared. 406 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: To the governor of Indiana, and he's okay with just 407 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: identifying with whatever you want and uses the Bible for 408 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: his argument. 409 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 9: But we rarely talk about the why people want to 410 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 9: know what drives us, especially in a world with social 411 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 9: media where everyone's looking for the next authentic thing. For me, 412 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 9: that's my faith. Most of the decisions I make are 413 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 9: based on that Golden rule that says we love our 414 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 9: neighbor as ourself, and that parable the good Samaritan that 415 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 9: says everyone is our neighbor. And so when I've taken 416 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 9: actions like vetoing the nastiest piece of anti LGBTQ legislation 417 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 9: that ever came through my state, I described in those terms. 418 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 9: I said, my faith teaches me that all children are 419 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 9: children of God, and I didn't want people picking on 420 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 9: those kids. 421 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: Okay. So here's a guy who I believe is going 422 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 2: to try and run for president. 423 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 3: Somebody's running for president. 424 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: Well, he continue with that message. As he gets closer. 425 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 3: I think he's you know, Governor Bashard from Kentucky. He 426 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 3: has stars in his eyes right now because he's a Democrat. 427 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 3: Kentucky is a pretty darn red state. He has been 428 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 3: fairly popular. I mean, his approval ratings are like sixty 429 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 3: five percent in Kentucky. And I think my guess is 430 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 3: that he thinks that he can then oh, translate that 431 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 3: I'm a Democrat, but the Republicans love me. I'm a 432 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 3: perfect guy to run for president of the United States. Now, 433 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 3: he has a governor's race that he needs to run 434 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 3: for that's up in twenty twenty seven before he can 435 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 3: even talk about running for president in twenty twenty eight. 436 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 3: But he is injecting himself into national topics and national 437 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 3: news because he can get that coverage by doing that. 438 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 3: And I think we're going to continue to see more 439 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 3: of this from the Democrat governor of Kentucky. 440 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: He goes on to say that he wants Donald Trump 441 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: to withdraw ICE agents from every city in the United States. 442 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 9: Well, every ICE agent should be withdrawn from every city 443 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 9: and every community that they're in. 444 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 2: Oh Okay. 445 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: Keep in mind, this is the same guy who was 446 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: trying to have people arrested on Easter Sunday back in 447 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. 448 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 3: Right because they were trying to attend church when there 449 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 3: were draconian COVID lockdowns all over the place. Yeah, that's 450 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 3: the kind of thing that's going to be a big 451 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 3: problem for him if he tries to run for president 452 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty eight, because everything he's done in his 453 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 3: political past and all the insanity. I'm sure there are 454 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 3: plenty of other examples out there. He's a Democrat, He's 455 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 3: done some crazy things, had some crazy positions, and closing 456 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 3: churches during COVID lockdowns is not going to go over 457 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 3: well twenty eight presidential elections. 458 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: So on one side, he says that ICE is intrusive 459 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: to civil liberties, but on the other he wants to 460 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: arrest you for going to church. 461 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, trying to have it both ways, and. 462 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 3: It comes off as a little disingenuous when a governor 463 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 3: of a state starts talking about the way other states 464 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 3: should be doing things. Because he talked about that, he said, 465 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 3: I want Donald Trump to remove ICE agents out of 466 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 3: every city in the country. Now, how about you focus 467 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 3: on Kentucky. You got your own problems there, you got 468 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 3: your own social service problems, you got your own infrastructure 469 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 3: and education issues. You've got a cost of living issue 470 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 3: going on there. Kentucky has been one of the hotbeds 471 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 3: for the opioid crisis and addiction crisis. Kentucky's got a 472 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 3: lot of problems, Governor, I'd concentrate on focusing on your 473 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 3: state and maybe fixing some of those problems before you 474 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 3: start running your mouth about what other states and what 475 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 3: other cities should be doing. 476 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: Of course, he has an opinion on the Save Act 477 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: as well. He says that it's not reasonable for Americans 478 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: to have to prove they are citizenship to register to vote. 479 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 10: Voter idea is something that a large majority of Americans support. 480 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 10: Kentucky does require voters to show an ID for federal 481 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 10: and state elections. Where do you fall on the Save 482 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 10: ACS specifically, Well. 483 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 9: I consider myself pragmatic. No, I think that we can 484 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 9: agree that election security is an important thing. But when 485 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 9: you create policies that are so owners you push people 486 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 9: out who have the right to vote, who should be 487 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 9: able to register. And so I think on any policy, 488 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 9: you got to look at what's reasonable. 489 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: Okay, So ownerus means burdenso or difficult, and you wouldn't 490 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: say that it's burden. Some are difficult to drive a 491 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: car right when you got to show an ID. 492 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 3: Not at all? 493 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 2: Or to I don't know buy some beer. Well, I mean, 494 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 2: you just you know, this is what happens. 495 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 3: And this is the problem that Democrats keep running into everywhere, 496 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 3: is they keep butting their heads up against the wall 497 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 3: on these eighty twenty issues in America. And that when 498 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 3: I say that, I mean there are these issues where 499 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 3: eighty percent of Americans believe one way and only twenty 500 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 3: percent believe the other way, and they're pretty easily identified, identifiable, 501 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 3: and they're becoming a litmus test for all Democrats running. 502 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 3: And one of them is voter ID. Do you believe 503 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 3: in voter ID laws and that we should have them? 504 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 3: Eighty percent of Americans approximately believe in them. Bushar just 505 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 3: came out on the other side of that. The other one, 506 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 3: do you believe in an unrestricted abortion right up until 507 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 3: time of birth? But eighty percent of Americans are like, yeah, 508 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 3: we should probably put some restriction in on abortion, you know, 509 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 3: especially right up until live birth at nine months. What's 510 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 3: he going to answer on that? And then the other 511 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 3: one is do you believe that boys should be in girls' 512 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 3: bathrooms and in girls' locker rooms? And again eighty percent 513 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 3: of Americans say no, Yet the vast majority of Democrat 514 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 3: politicians even though the Democrat base is sitting on the 515 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 3: eighty percent side, the Democrat politicians keep supporting these rules 516 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 3: and objectives and laws that are only supported by twenty 517 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 3: percent of the country. And I think that's where Governor 518 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 3: Baschad is going to really run into a lot of problems. 519 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: All right. Speaking of elections and votevoting, Donald Trump has 520 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: suggested that Republicans should nationalize elections, meaning that the federal 521 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: government would take more control over running votes instead of 522 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 1: individual states. 523 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 3: What a terrible idea this is from Donald Trump. A 524 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 3: colossal awful idea. Can you imagine? Because political wins change 525 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 3: all the time, and there's gonna be a point in time, 526 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 3: and I don't know if it's in four years or 527 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 3: eight years or twelve years, when the Democrats are back 528 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 3: in power and they're going to have the Presidency and 529 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 3: the House and the Senate and pretty much be able 530 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 3: to do whatever you want. 531 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 2: Are you gonna say the same thing? 532 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 3: Then? Yeah? 533 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 8: Right? 534 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 3: And so if you want to federalize elections right now, 535 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 3: well get ready for when the Democrats become to power, 536 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 3: because you know what, you're gonna have them mass unaccountable 537 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 3: mail in voting. Just hey, you want to ballot, just 538 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 3: hand them out at the gas station. We're giving ballots 539 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 3: to everybody. Just mail at a lot of it with 540 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 3: your vote. Do whatever you want. We're gonna have no 541 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 3: voter ID. They're gonna do all the all the other 542 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 3: sorts of things that we know they love doing in 543 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 3: blue states like California and New York and Illinois that 544 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 3: keep them in power in those states. They're going to 545 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 3: try and institute those things on a national scale. Donald 546 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 3: Trump is way off on this. There's no way that 547 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 3: we should be anywhere even investigating the possibility of nationalizing elections. 548 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 1: In Indiana, specifically, state legislative leaders they've pushed back. They've 549 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: said that elections should continue to be managed at the 550 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: state level and not taken over by the federal government. 551 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 3: Here's the good news about this. How elections are managed 552 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,479 Speaker 3: is in the constitution. So, Donald Trump, if that's your 553 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 3: position and you think you can get a constitutional amendment 554 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 3: passed in this political climate, knock yourself out, buddy. It's 555 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 3: not going to happen. So I think this is a 556 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 3: lot of political dinner theater with no possibility of this 557 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 3: ever really taking place. Yeah, you're right. 558 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,479 Speaker 1: The US Constitution at delegates, election, and administration to the states. 559 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: So if there were any forced federal control, it would 560 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: be a major constitutional shift. 561 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 2: Which I don't think anybody's going to stomach right now. 562 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and even with a conservative Supreme Court, they have shown, 563 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 3: even though they are conservative Supreme Court, that when they 564 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 3: run into issues that go strictly against the Constitution, they're 565 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 3: not afraid to shut those down. And so they would 566 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 3: certainly do this. With any sort of executive order or 567 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 3: law that was passed regarding federalizing state elections. It's it's 568 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 3: just not going to happen. And there's no chance of 569 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 3: getting any sort of constitutional amendment passed in the current politicals. 570 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: And one of those flyers where Donald Trump just puts 571 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: it out there in the ether to assume it sort 572 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: of reaction is. 573 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 2: Going to get. That's just a little test balloon. 574 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 3: I believe he. 575 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 2: Said it on a podcast. 576 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, And Donald Trump loves doing that. Look, I mean, 577 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 3: he had the Trump twenty twenty eight hats, remember that 578 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 3: when the Democrats were in the Oval office, and he 579 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 3: put out the Trump twenty twenty eights. And he loves 580 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 3: trolling the media and the Democrats talking about how he 581 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 3: might run again. In twenty twenty eight, even though constitutionally 582 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 3: he certainly can't. I think this is another great example 583 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 3: of that. Nothing. Donald Trump loves more than poking the 584 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 3: bear and seeing what kind of reaction you can get. 585 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 3: So he's just doing it with election laws right now. 586 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 3: That's why he's poking the bear today. 587 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 2: You're listening to ninety three WYBC. 588 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 5: I did. 589 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: I asked you to look it up because I was 590 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,479 Speaker 1: curious to see if it was AI or not. And 591 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: it turns out that it didn't happen at the Olympics. 592 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 2: It was was it real? 593 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 3: It is real, so it was real, but it was 594 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 3: another speed skater. It was not the speed skater that 595 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 3: won the gold medal for the Netherlands last night, whose 596 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 3: name is a great Dutch name, Jutah Learedom. Juta Learedom 597 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 3: for beautiful. 598 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: She's getting so much attention, she has like five million 599 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: Instagram followers and everybody just loves her in that country. 600 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: But you're right, she's a speed skater. And there was 601 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: a clip going around that she had wiped out and 602 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: hit the wall and her speed skating uniform busted open and. 603 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 2: You could see things that you know you're born with. 604 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, This is how the conversation went in our house. Hey, Jim, 605 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 3: did you see this speed skater that ripped her body suit? 606 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 6: No? 607 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 3: I didn't see that. Hey, why don't you come over 608 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,479 Speaker 3: here and take a look at it. When your wife says, 609 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 3: you know what, I want you to watch this video 610 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 3: where this young female athlete ripped her body suit and 611 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 3: her butt cheeks were exposed to the entire world. I 612 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 3: didn't want to do it. I was like, I don't 613 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 3: need to see that. But when your wife asked you 614 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 3: to do something, you say, your said, Okay, if that's 615 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 3: what I've got to do, you know, happy wife, happy life. Fine, 616 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 3: I'll watch that video and I get it. 617 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 2: I wanted to know if it was real, and. 618 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 3: I did it for you. I watched that for you. Yeah. 619 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: Well, I wanted to know if it was real or not. 620 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: And it turns out it was real. It just didn't 621 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: happen at the Olympics, and. 622 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 3: It didn't happen to that speed skater. It was another 623 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 3: Dutch slate skater that I watched the video. I spent 624 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 3: a lot of time investigating this. I watched the video 625 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 3: probably a dozen times, looking for any markers of AI 626 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 3: that could possibly be in there. Sure did all the 627 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 3: research on the internet and came to the conclusion and 628 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 3: found the truth that it was a different speed skater 629 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 3: being passed off as this as this lovely young woman 630 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 3: from the Netherlands that won the gold medal last night. 631 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: Okay, it's very much like me asking you to check 632 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: out the latest ad from Sydney Sweeney as she's launching 633 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: her lingerie line. 634 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 3: Hey, oh, there she is. 635 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: She she uh, she rang the bell at the New 636 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: York Stock Exchange. 637 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 3: Is there anything Sidney Sweeney can't do? 638 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, she was there celebrating her American Eagle brand and uh, 639 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: you remember the ad Sidney Sweeney has great genes that campaign. 640 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 3: Oh so she was Okay, I assumed that she was 641 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 3: going to be ringing the New York Stock Exchange bell 642 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 3: for her own product, you rite, for her new lawn 643 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 3: lingerie line. But this is actually going back to the 644 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 3: controversy over the summer when she appeared in the American 645 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 3: Eagle ad and she was ringing the Stock Exchange bell 646 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 3: on behalf of American Eagle. 647 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, she was there with the CEO of American Eagle 648 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: doing that. But she has launched her own lingerie underwear 649 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: line her her, and Justin Bieber is doing that as well. 650 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: So this is the thing You've got these celebrities now 651 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: expanding their personal apparel brands into this new category. 652 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 3: Underwear does does? Does the does a man coming out 653 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,479 Speaker 3: with an It just seems like it doesn't have as 654 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 3: much of an impact with a dude coming out with 655 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 3: an underwear line as a famous actress coming out with 656 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 3: the lingerie line. I mean, who is buying Justin Bieber 657 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 3: branded tidy whities? 658 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 2: Maybe they're really nice, maybe they fit you know well? 659 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 3: And do you need to do some investigation onto this 660 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 3: find every photograph. 661 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: Now, why he was singing the Grammys in his underwear, 662 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: I think that's why it was a look he was 663 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: launching Gorilla marketing. 664 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 3: People were up and on if you watch the Grammys, 665 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 3: and based on the ratings you didn't. But if you 666 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 3: watch the Grammys, Justin Bieber performed in his underwear and 667 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 3: people were shocked. And then the next day he came 668 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 3: out and he's like, hey, big shocker here, big surprise, 669 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 3: I'm coming out with my own line of underwear. Now, 670 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 3: if we can just get Sydney Sweeney to do a 671 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 3: performance in her lingerie putting her lingerie line in the forefront. 672 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 3: I think that's probably the next thing that we can. 673 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: Expect in this well, she's been doing all of her 674 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: promotion for it in her underwear. 675 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 3: Which, by the way, her sit ductress collection for uh, 676 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 3: is that what it's called. That's what it's called. It's 677 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 3: the seductress collection for the Cern brand. Lingerie sold out 678 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 3: in record time after it was launched. I'm sure they're 679 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 3: going to be restocking soon and they'll be backing up 680 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 3: for sale on the website before you know it. 681 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: An example of how she's monetizing every aspect of her image. 682 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: You're listening to ninety three WIBC. 683 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 2: Good morning,