1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: Why why? Yeah, why after years of. 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 2: Torture, is it still almost impossible to drive through the 3 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 2: greater Downtown area? 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 3: Uh? 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 4: What are you talking about? 6 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 5: It's lovely, the roads are spacious, they're smooth, everything's working wonderfully. 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't know what you're talking about. 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 5: I had a really really easy drive in this morning. 9 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: I like, I can't fathom casey. 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: I mean, this has been going on for years now, 11 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: I am Look, nobody understands more than me. You gotta 12 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 2: do infrastructure upgrades to maintain a decent society. And I'm 13 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: not one of these people that yells if the road 14 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 2: I normally use isn't open. As long as there's somewhere 15 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: else for me to go, you tell me how to 16 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 2: get there, and I'll do it. If I detour over here, 17 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: that's fine. But this downtown is a disaster, like it is, 18 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: one detour on top of another, one cone after another, Yes, 19 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: one one yielder or exit or barricade after another, like 20 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: there is. It is impossible to drive this city in 21 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: any sort of efficient, time effective manner. 22 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: And how could it be going? What has it been? 23 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: It seems like it has been three or four years 24 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 2: now that this has just been in continuation. 25 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 5: Yes, I always look to the West Washington Street bridge 26 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 5: over Little Eagle Creek and the Department of Public Work 27 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 5: set It took a little longer than we'd hoped, but 28 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 5: by taking the time, we want to do it right, 29 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 5: not the fast way, but the right way. Well, they 30 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 5: certainly did not do it the fast way. 31 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 2: And if you are blessed to not have to ever 32 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: drive in the greater Downtown area, consider yourself. Just say 33 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 2: a prayer every day, say Dear Lord, thank you for 34 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 2: letting me avoid the Greater Downtown area. Please bless and 35 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: protect Rob and Casey and Kevin as they as they 36 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: attempt to maneuver through Joe hog sets insanity. 37 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 4: And you know what, I have a little conversation with 38 00:01:58,360 --> 00:01:59,639 Speaker 4: Joe Hogson on my way into. 39 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 2: Words you can use. This is the most government thing 40 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: ever and this is the part of it. Whether you 41 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: drive downtown or you don't. In which four years as 42 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: a Hoosier lifer, as a Central Indiana lifer who spent 43 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 2: many many a year, both in the daytime and the nighttime, 44 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: in the weekdays and the weekends driving the downtown, I 45 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: mean I worked before I was at WIBC I worked 46 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: here for multiple years as a two very long, horrible 47 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,399 Speaker 2: years as a part of state government. It was still 48 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: an easy drive. That was the least of my concerns 49 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 2: every day because Indianapolis, despite being a major metropolitan city, 50 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 2: was a very easy city to get access to and 51 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 2: maneuver around before this guy became the mayor, Like it 52 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 2: was Peterson, it was fine, Ballad, it was fine. It's 53 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: when this guy got in charge and it's gotten progressively worse. 54 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 2: And so it is the perfect example of how there 55 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 2: was no problem, there was no issue, and then at 56 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: some point government stepped in and said, let us solve 57 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: this for you. 58 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: And we said, well, wait a second, we. 59 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: Don't need okay, without you, we don't need the bus lanes. Yes, 60 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 2: we don't need the bike lanes. Like we don't need all. 61 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: Of this stuff. We don't need. 62 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 2: Then we don't the tax they're found at hotel, all 63 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: of these things that are shutting humanity down. 64 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: We don't need any of it. 65 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: Things worn't great. I drive here, it's easy, I get 66 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 2: out of here. It's easy. I go home, it's easy, 67 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 2: I work, I pay tax. The society is moving forward 68 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: and operating perfectly as is. 69 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: No no it's broken, we'll fix it for you. But 70 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: it's not broken now. It's broken because you broken. 71 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 4: Yes, because you've got involved. 72 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 5: I kept wondering because they had Washington Street closed and 73 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 5: I thought, oh, okay, this is going to be a 74 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 5: couple weeks with this detour. But then once it's reopen, 75 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 5: it's it's gonna be wonderful. The road's going to be smooth, 76 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 5: it's going to be great. It's gonna be spacious and glorious. 77 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 5: And no, it's it's worse than when they have the detour. 78 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 5: There's metal play, it's everywhere, Potholes are huge. I thought 79 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 5: once they opened the road back up, it would be great. No, 80 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 5: still lane restrictions, still detours on my way in this morning, 81 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 5: I saw three guys standing around, and you know, I 82 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 5: don't want to. I don't want to throw the workers 83 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 5: under the bus. 84 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: You gotta do it. You throw everybody on the bus. 85 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: At this point, like you're you're standing there, what are 86 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: you doing? 87 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 2: Basically co conspirators at this point in casey, they're basically 88 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: co conspirator. 89 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: What are you doing? 90 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 4: I mean they're just waiting for direction from someone. 91 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is again I come back to Ryan 92 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: Hedrick said, this WIBC news man extraordinaireor this has been 93 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: several months ago. I forget what scandal or thing it 94 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: was with Hogshead because there's. 95 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: Been so many of them. 96 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 2: But he came in and he said, look, Joe hog 97 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 2: Seat runs the city of Indianapolis the way I ran 98 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: my life at the height of my addiction issues. And 99 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 2: Ryan's been very candid about that. He has a fabulous 100 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 2: supporting sobriety podcast he does with Matt Bear, and he said, look, 101 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 2: Joe hogg set the disorganization, the lack of completion, the 102 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 2: lack of vision like that way. 103 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: He said, that was my life when I was in the. 104 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 2: Throes of my drug addiction, and that's how hogs It 105 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 2: runs the city when you have major construction projects. First 106 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 2: of all, the bus lines are a complete waste of 107 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 2: tax payer money. They're utterly ridiculous. You never see it 108 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 2: seems like more than one or two people get off 109 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 2: of these buses at these these stop Like I mean, 110 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 2: what hundreds of millions of dollars that could have improved 111 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 2: roads and bridges and sidewalks and things that people are 112 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 2: using every day, and we give it to a bus 113 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: line that there's like nine people on at any given time. 114 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: But like you, you just you can't keep shutting things down. 115 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 2: You have to complete one thing because people have to 116 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 2: have somewhere else to go, Like if you're going to 117 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 2: make this thing unmovable, you can't, you can't transport yourself 118 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 2: through this major artery. Then you have to have some 119 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: backup place for people to go so the society can 120 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 2: continue to function in a somewhat decent as is manner. 121 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 2: And they just keep shutting one artery, one escape route, 122 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 2: one detour down after another to the Boyward just takes 123 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 2: forever to get around down here. 124 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 4: Yes, and it's interesting. 125 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 5: You can tell people that aren't used to driving through 126 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 5: it because the cones and the directions and the road 127 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 5: the lane restrictions, and you get behind somebody who's not 128 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 5: used to traveling through it, they have no idea where 129 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 5: to go, and you. 130 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 4: Can tell because it's difficult. It's amazed. 131 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 2: So for all of you people who are like, I 132 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 2: can't believe you're so mean to the Republicans, why don't 133 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 2: you ever talk about the Democrats? 134 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: Mark it down, baby. We spent the first seven minutes. 135 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 4: Of this show today, November twentieth going tell. 136 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,119 Speaker 1: It, which we do all the time. 137 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 2: It's very selective memories from people, but I want it 138 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: etched in stone that once again we have started our 139 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 2: program talking about what a horrible job Joe Hawkson is 140 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: doing running the city of Indianaulis. 141 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 3: Now. 142 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 2: I know you have a bevy of things for us 143 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 2: to get to today, but I need a break to 144 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 2: reset my thoughts. So can we just take a break? 145 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 2: Then we get who do you want to crap on next? 146 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 2: Is it Braun? Is it the guy that is focused 147 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 2: on the sandwich? Who do you want to talk about? 148 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: Yes? All of those very good. Okay, it's Kettley Casey. 149 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 4: It's ninety three WYBC. 150 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: Ok. We gotta talk about this summer. 151 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: The senator, with all the things that I got in 152 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 2: our state, he's focused on the sandwich. 153 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 154 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 5: Hey, guys, couldn't get redistricting done, but let's make the 155 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 5: poor tender loin. 156 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 4: The state sandwich. 157 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: I don't care what moment we are at in our state. 158 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 2: If a sandwich is your focus, you're doing the government wrong. 159 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 5: Do you think he was just trying to redirect or 160 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 5: is this parody? Is this real life? Rob? 161 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 3: No? 162 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: I think Look and I'll read the message again because 163 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 2: we did it at the time on the air, that 164 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 2: lawmaker who I found it in my old messages. It 165 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 2: was two years ago. This is how long we've been 166 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: talking about the stupid sandwich. By the way, two years 167 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 2: ago they were on this sandwich and we ripped them 168 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 2: then too. And one of these lawmakers, I. 169 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: Got the time stamp still casey twenty six in the morning. Huh, 170 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: who knows what this is? 171 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 3: Say? 172 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 4: Hey, you up? 173 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 2: This was in session, this with the session was going on, 174 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 2: because it was January eleventh, twenty twenty three, at one 175 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 2: twenty six in the morning. 176 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: This guy sent me this like. 177 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 2: Scathing message on Facebook, and I was like, what are 178 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: you doing at one twenty six in the morning where 179 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 2: you're enraged at the radio guy about the sandwich? 180 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: Who is this? This? 181 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 2: This this Yahoo bitching about the sandwich? 182 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: Now Jim Tomes right, Okay, do we have the audio 183 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: of him? We do? Okay. 184 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 2: So you've got all these things going on right. Property 185 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 2: taxes are still a crisis. The utility bills are totally 186 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: out of control. You got people up in arms about 187 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 2: these data centers that are popping up on every corner. 188 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 2: The IEDC appears to be totally corrupting, full of conflict 189 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 2: of it. 190 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 4: We're moving on from that. 191 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: Gas taxes are out of control. 192 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 2: The governor is warring with the pro tem of the 193 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: Senate over some bizarre obsession with redistricting, and Jim Tomes 194 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 2: the State Center is focused on the Sandwich. 195 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 6: Hello, November eighteenth, it's ouranization day. We're preparing for session 196 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 6: for twenty twenty five. 197 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: As many know, a special. 198 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 6: Session was called to take a look at redistricting in Indiana. 199 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 6: Since we do not have the support for that, we 200 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 6: will We are canceling the December special session. The moving 201 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 6: right into January, and I look forward to preparing some 202 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 6: legislation sneak peak. I already gave you as the Portendolan 203 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 6: Bill which is coming back, and we're going to make 204 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 6: that the state Sandwich, and to continuing to advocate for 205 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 6: the real districts that I represent, to make sure they 206 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 6: have the quality of life and economic development initiatives and 207 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 6: options that all Hoosiers have. So look forward to complosing 208 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 6: of the. 209 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 2: Okay, so not afford to stay in your home, not 210 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 2: afford to pay your electric bill, not afford to drive 211 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 2: your car with one of the highest gas taxes in 212 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 2: the nation. Now, I'm will clean up the crap of 213 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: thee hundreds of millions of dollars of abuse and corruption 214 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: and conflicts of interest that got exposed in the iedc audit. 215 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: None of that. He's going to focus on the sandwich. 216 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 4: Right, is the sugar cream pie? The official state pie. 217 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: I don't know what any of these things. 218 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 4: I want to give him something to work on if 219 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 4: it's not okay. 220 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 2: Now this we must go back in the time machine, 221 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 2: because this was the message that I got. Well, it'll 222 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 2: be three years ago. 223 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 7: Now. 224 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 2: This is how long again we've been talking about the 225 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 2: sandwich and how long we've been saying this is. 226 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 4: A important stuff. 227 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: Just stupid that you. 228 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 2: Guys are wasting your time on this rather than doing 229 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 2: things that will help the public. This was from Christopher Judy. 230 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 2: He's a state rep Okay, and this was sent to 231 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: me January eleventh, twenty twenty three. By the way, I've 232 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 2: screenshot at all of these in case somebody were ever 233 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 2: going to try to delete their messages, which would be 234 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 2: an even bigger story. 235 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 4: He's got receipts. 236 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 2: I don't think i've ever met this guy. I don't 237 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 2: think i've ever talked to this guy. I don't think 238 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 2: I'm friends with this guy on Facebook, Like I had 239 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 2: zero correspondence with this guy. 240 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: And we said something. This is how powerful full our 241 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: show is. 242 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 2: By the way, I think he's from Huntington is where 243 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,719 Speaker 2: he's a where he is a state rep. This is 244 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 2: how powerful our show is. That we say something and 245 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 2: some rep doing who knows what at won twenty six 246 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 2: in the morning. I can assure you, Casey, I've thought 247 00:10:58,200 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: of a lot of things that won twenty six in 248 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 2: the morning. It was never fight with the radio guy 249 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 2: about the state sandwich. 250 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: All right, are you ready? Now? 251 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 2: We've read this before on the air and I told 252 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 2: him the best part about this was I told him 253 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 2: I was going to do this and then he backpedaled 254 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 2: out of this so quickly. 255 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: I'd love to meet with you, would like. 256 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 4: To share thing, So please don't call me out on 257 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 4: the air. 258 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: All right, are you ready? 259 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 2: You should really take away from a feel good moment 260 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 2: on the nomination of a quote state nomination of a 261 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 2: tenderloin sandwich for the citizens of Huntington County. I really 262 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 2: hope it engulfs your ego, Rob the citizens of Huntington 263 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: and Wabash County deserve that recognition, wouldn't you agree, rum 264 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 2: And just for fun, I read my response back to 265 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 2: it that then caused him to back pedal. By the way, 266 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: you never scheduled that meeting of us to get together. 267 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 2: And I think Chris Judy is one of the people 268 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 2: who screwed everybody on property taxes. Which is funny because 269 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 2: after the response I said to him, he quickly, have 270 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 2: you ever done this at a bar at one twenty 271 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 2: six where you you got some courage you didn't otherwise have, 272 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 2: and then you approach someone you probably shouldn't have approached 273 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 2: and said something really stupid and they told you where 274 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 2: to stick your pickup line, and then you said, I 275 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 2: didn't mean it. I was just trying to be nice, 276 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 2: And this is what it reaks up. I said again, 277 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: this was January eleventh of twenty twenty three. 278 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 4: I don't think it was one twenty six in the morning. 279 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: No, I saw. 280 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 2: This is six thirty eight in the morning, okay, because 281 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 2: I was doing what normal people doe. 282 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: I was sleeping. 283 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 8: Lol. 284 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 2: I think the taxpayers of Indiana deserved to not be 285 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: fleshed out of their homes because people like you can't 286 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 2: stop spending money. The fact that you're on here messaging 287 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 2: me instead of fixing the property tax crisis once again 288 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 2: reinforces everything I need to know. And I'll make sure 289 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 2: everyone knows today that you're very passionate about wasting your 290 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 2: time on the state sandwich instead of solving actual problems. 291 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 4: What did he say? It was a tender momenth. 292 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 1: No, it was what you feel good moment. It was 293 00:12:58,360 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 1: a feel good moment. 294 00:12:59,000 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 4: I feel good. 295 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone else seven million people are getting screwed. 296 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: But the people of Huntington get the stupid sandwich. 297 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 2: Right, that's this guy's priority. And good to know his 298 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 2: buddy Tolmes is still going on it. 299 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 5: Right, You've got the House and the Senate now working 300 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 5: on the pork tender loin sandwich. 301 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 2: I come back to what I told somebody the other 302 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 2: day in an interview I did when before he started 303 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: the interview, they said, hey, how's it going, And I 304 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 2: just said, I feel like I'm living in a bizarro world. 305 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 2: And I keep feeling like I'm living in a bizarro 306 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 2: world where for years now, things just keep getting worse 307 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 2: in our state, and it's the same things, and nobody 308 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 2: wants to address any of this but they will just 309 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 2: they will just focus on the most irrelevant, stupid things 310 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 2: like the state sandwich. 311 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 5: Hey, we've got the governor fighting with the President of 312 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 5: the Senate. 313 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 4: Let's talk about a sandwich, shall we. 314 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 5: We've got inflation, we've got property taxes that are hurting Hoosiers. 315 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 4: But you know what, we got the pork tender loin. 316 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 1: And by the way, I read that message. 317 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 2: Lawmakers in the state House they message me all the time, 318 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 2: and I'll read their messages. But if you're gonna message 319 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 2: me unpromptent, I don't know you. And because you're doing 320 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 2: who knows what at one twenty six am, you didn't 321 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 2: say this is. 322 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 4: Off the record. 323 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 2: If you're a lawmaker and you're gonna seek me out, 324 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 2: then I'm gonna tell everybody. 325 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 4: Okay, Well the fight continues. 326 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 5: By the way, on redistricting, the governor was on Fox 327 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 5: fifty nine yesterday and he said the conversation is only 328 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 5: in the second or third inning. 329 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 4: He's using baseball. 330 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 2: Wait, wait, I thought we were in the first inning. 331 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 2: Now we've quickly made it to the second or third inning. 332 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're second, third one day. At what point do 333 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 4: we get to the seventh inning? Stretch well, we. 334 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 2: Talked about this on was the State House happenings or 335 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 2: maybe it's an abdul like the disconnect from our governor. Sir, 336 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 2: the ballgame is over. However, if you wanted to say, 337 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 2: by some miracle, the game was still going, it's the 338 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: bottom of the ninth, there are two outs and your 339 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 2: team is down eight to one. Just the guy lives 340 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 2: in like a fantasy land of what's going on here, 341 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 2: and the longer he keeps going this look, Rod Bray 342 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 2: was a very timely thing for him, vindicated by what's 343 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 2: going on with Texas, where part of the reason they 344 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 2: now they didn't get into Ray has never gotten into it, 345 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 2: but you talk to enough people, you know what's going 346 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 2: on over there. One of their concerns is if they 347 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 2: got Marion County, it is going to come off as 348 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 2: they are deliberately disenfranchising a majority black district. And in 349 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 2: the case of Texas, the reason right now now, look, 350 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 2: it's going to go to the Supreme Court. I ultimately 351 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 2: think these maps are going to get upheld from the 352 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 2: Supreme Court. 353 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: But the very. 354 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 2: Hassle that how many times are we right on this 355 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 2: show that we've been talking about, which is the lower 356 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: courts were likely depending on who the judges are. And 357 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 2: by the way, it's a Trump judge was one of 358 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 2: the judges that threw the Texas map out, So you 359 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 2: can't blame. 360 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: It on you know, you know level judge leftist activists. 361 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 2: Right, is that there is a documentation from or at 362 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 2: least allegedly documentation from people in the Trump administration specifically 363 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: mention race as a part of these redrawn Texas maps. 364 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 2: And I'm sure there was immense concern, or is immense 365 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: concern based on the law as it exists right now, 366 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 2: that if they were to gut Marion County they would 367 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 2: run into the same issue that Texas is running into. 368 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 2: Little bit different, you know, scenario or facts on the ground, 369 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 2: but the sort of the same thing, which is the 370 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 2: thing gets thrown. 371 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: Out and then what. 372 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, you have a guy who's in Bray and 373 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 2: I'm loath to defend anything about Rod Bray, but in 374 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 2: this case, you have a guy who's looking at the 375 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 2: actual facts on the ground, legal precedent because he is 376 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 2: an attorney, and he's saying, look, here's what's likely to happen, 377 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 2: versus Braun, who is basically cost playing government at this point, 378 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 2: he might as well just put on a costume and 379 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: go to one of those conventions and say, I'm playing governor. 380 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 2: Look at me, who is just being totally subservient to 381 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: Donald Trump, not worried at all about the facts on 382 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 2: the ground and how this would be likely to go. 383 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 5: And the new maps don't guarantee you would be nine oh, 384 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 5: of course, of course. And if they would put some 385 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 5: of this time and energy and potentially money just into 386 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 5: winning the district outright, they wouldn't have to go through 387 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 5: all this. 388 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 2: Have you noticed, Casey, how many people in the media 389 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 2: are now coming around to like our positions on things 390 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 2: are long held positions. It's like it's it's like a 391 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 2: it's a cavalcade is a strong word, but there's a 392 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 2: lot of people in the media who are saying things 393 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 2: now that we have been saying for years. And up next, 394 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 2: speaking of that, Yes, Jacob Stewart from Indie Star is 395 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 2: a fabulous piece out about something that we have said 396 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 2: for years on this program, and he's saying, we're absolutely right. 397 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 5: Township's gotta go. We'll talk about it. Coming up from 398 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 5: ninety three WIBC. 399 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 8: The Criminal Clown Stolen. He steals what he can level 400 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 8: made the truth ran out from him. 401 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 2: Casey, There's nothing that I love more than when other 402 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 2: people in the media agree with me. 403 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 4: Yes, that's been happening a lot too. 404 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 2: Well, we've been ahead of the curve for years. This program. 405 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 2: A new column out, a friend of the program saying 406 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 2: something we've said for a very long time. We got 407 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 2: a lot of wasteful government. 408 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 5: Yes, Indianapolis has too much government. Indiana has too much government. 409 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, old pal Jacobsure from the Indie Star. Fabulous new 410 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 2: column out. Now this is specifically about township government as 411 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 2: it relates to Marion County, but I think you can 412 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 2: extrapolate this across the state and how much money it 413 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 2: could save taxpayers if we just got rid of the 414 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 2: township government. Jacob Stewart from Indie Star joins us now. 415 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 2: Jacob Stewart, Hello, Yeah, thanks for having me on. 416 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: Okay, so you said the thing. 417 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 2: I'll let you put it in your own words. Township government, 418 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 2: especially in Marion County. But again, I think you can 419 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 2: take it across the entire state. Kind of seems wasteful, 420 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 2: kind of seems redundant. What's the word I'm looking for? Redundant? Redundive, wasteful, No, redundant, redundant, redundant, 421 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 2: That's what I was looking for. Redundant. There's so many 422 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 2: files in here, Casey. Sometimes in this brain they sometimes 423 00:18:58,760 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 2: just merge together in words. 424 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: Don't you get what file fall in the back of 425 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: the capital RedANT? It seems redundant? Tell us about it. 426 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, no, exactly like you said, Township governments are 427 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 3: wasteful and duplicative. They provide services any other unit of 428 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 3: government could, and they're really just a leftover from a 429 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 3: time when people had horse drawn carriages and had to 430 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 3: you know, walk to the nearest government unit. And nowadays, 431 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 3: you know, they're they're way too small to provide. You know, 432 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 3: just look at fire departments. I mean, you've got to 433 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 3: spend so much money on equipment alone and just having 434 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 3: you know, the average township is, you know what, got 435 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 3: a couple thousand people. You know, Marion County is a 436 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 3: little bit bigger, but you know, that's a lot of 437 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 3: money for just a couple people in a small area 438 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 3: to have to bear, and Marion County even more so 439 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 3: because the Indianapolis City County government does most of everything already. 440 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 3: Only I think three townships still have a fire department, 441 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 3: for example, and then the rest, I mean most a 442 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 3: lot of them. I think some of their biggest expenses 443 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 3: are the small claims courts and for relief, and then 444 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 3: salaries on top of that, and pretty much all of 445 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 3: that could be absorbed by something the city county already does. 446 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,479 Speaker 2: So, Jacob, you get into this in this article with 447 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: kind of specific dollar amounts to the amount that could 448 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 2: potentially be saved, money that could go to the taxpayers, 449 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 2: or at the very least in a tax cap world, 450 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,959 Speaker 2: it could be disseminated to the other entities, which in 451 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 2: the end could save taxpayers money. It's a lot of 452 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 2: money we're talking about here. 453 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 3: Oh yeah. So back in two thousand and seven, the governor, 454 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 3: Mitch Daniels at the time, commissioned this Kurse Shepherd Report, 455 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:45,239 Speaker 3: and our good friend Michael Hicks from Indie Star and 456 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 3: one of his colleagues wrote a study following up on 457 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 3: that because it advocated for eliminating townships, and he quantified 458 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 3: exactly how much that the taxpayer would save, and when 459 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 3: it came to fire departments at the time, it was like, 460 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 3: I want to say, like thirteen bucks, no, twelve bucks 461 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 3: per person and now with inflation, that's up to like 462 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 3: over eighteen bucks per person every year just for emerging 463 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 3: fire departments with the county. 464 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 2: And you start adding those up these little things, right like, Okay, 465 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: eighteen dollars, it doesn't sound like a lot, but if 466 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 2: it's eighteen with the fire and you know, it's twelve 467 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 2: dollars over here, and now you've got eventually before you 468 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 2: add it all up, fifty sixty bucks a person. 469 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure. And you know there's very much 470 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 3: reason to believe it's even more in Marion County. I 471 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 3: mean I counted up the population of like Decater and 472 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 3: Wayne townships and how much they spend on fire departments, 473 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 3: and they're spending hundreds of dollars more per person than 474 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 3: the Indianapolis Fire Department is. 475 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 7: So that right there. 476 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 3: I mean, either they're not doing it as efficiently as 477 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 3: they could. I mean, certainly they aren't, but it just 478 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,959 Speaker 3: makes more sense to merge it with the county. 479 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 5: Jacob, you had mentioned in your article that residents of 480 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 5: Speedway and Beach Grove are triple taxed. 481 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: Talk more about that. 482 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, so they're taxed by the city excluded 483 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 3: city that they're living they're taxed by the township and 484 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 3: they're taxed by Marion County, so they're essentially subsidizing some 485 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 3: of the extra services county people get and the township. 486 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 3: And that's kind of the price of being in an 487 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 3: excluded city. You get a little bit more control over 488 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 3: your police departments and whatnot and zoning and road funding. So, 489 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 3: I mean that's a huge benefit right there to eliminating 490 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 3: townships is that, you know, help those people out that 491 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 3: are living in an excluded city and being triple. 492 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 2: Tax Jacob Stewart from Indie Star is our guest new 493 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: column out about how rotten casey those township governments are 494 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 2: and how much it's costing you the taxpayer. So do 495 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 2: you get a feeling on why nobody ever does anything 496 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 2: about this? Because you're right, Jacob, almost twenty years ago 497 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 2: a bip artisan commission put together by the governor said 498 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 2: get rid of these things, and they haven't done a 499 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 2: darn thing about it. Do you get an do you 500 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 2: get a feeling on why everybody kind of acknowledges what's 501 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 2: going on here, but nobody will do anything about it. 502 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, township governments are pretty much obsolete, but 503 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 3: people like people like them. They don't have a huge 504 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 3: reason to hate them, besides the fact that it's very 505 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 3: obvious they're wasting money that people don't think like that. 506 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 3: But then the others who too that I've heard from 507 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 3: some local officials in Indianapolis specifically, is I mean, for 508 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 3: good reason they want another layer of government in between 509 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 3: them and Mayor Joe hawk Set. You know, if they 510 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 3: hand the keys over to their fire department to Indianapolis, 511 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 3: what's to say that, you know, they don't get they 512 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 3: get like one one fireman patrolling their district or whatever, 513 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,479 Speaker 3: or one fire department in their district, and you know, 514 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 3: as understaffed as the IMPD. And I think that's a 515 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 3: reasonable complaint. And that's why in the latter half of 516 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 3: my columnize say that, you know, residents of township should 517 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 3: have the option to join an excluded city. That way 518 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 3: they have more control over things that you know, actually matter, 519 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 3: the policies that directly associate with the cost of government. 520 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 3: You know, like I said, excluded cities have a little 521 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 3: bit more control over their police departments, and you know, 522 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 3: that's that's been a great help in many cases, you know, 523 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 3: but as far as fire departments go, like nobody's setting 524 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 3: a policy in Indianapolis that makes fire departments less efficient. 525 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 3: You could definitely argue that the prosecutor and the judges 526 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 3: are setting policies that make the IMPD more inefficient. 527 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 2: And you know, before we let you go, I wanted 528 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 2: to take a moment to get into this. You have 529 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 2: a second column out just came out today in fact 530 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 2: about the data centers headline data centers are too big 531 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 2: for local officials to regulate. This is a huge fight 532 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,719 Speaker 2: right now about what we're gonna do with these data centers. 533 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 2: Who should be in charge of saying yes or no? 534 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 2: Tell us about this column about the data centers. 535 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. Sure, So I attended a town hall in Decatur 536 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 3: Township about new data center wanting to come in very 537 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 3: unique circumstance. You don't often see town halls headed by 538 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 3: the data center company. SAVY Corporations the one trying to 539 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 3: bring one in, and predictably, no one in the community 540 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 3: supported it. There was about four hundred people that showed up, 541 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 3: hundreds of which could not even enter the room because 542 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 3: it was just so chock full. And you know, people 543 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 3: were essentially just yelling at the data center rep for 544 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 3: like an hour or two, and so it really you know, 545 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 3: if you look at the state government, kind of the 546 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 3: fine line that Governor Braun is trying to walk is 547 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 3: he wants these data centers, but he also wants the 548 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 3: lower rates for consumers, and he kind of expects each 549 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 3: local government official to like weigh the benefits of each development, 550 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 3: while at the same time they have absolutely zero leverage 551 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 3: to do so because of how weak our state's utility 552 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 3: policies are. 553 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: So what should be done? I mean this is the case. 554 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 2: You're not gonna do this yesterday because of this, you know, 555 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 2: this massive amount of people that showed up at this 556 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 2: town hall and they were all against it for the 557 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 2: most part. 558 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: Like what the I think that you tell? 559 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 2: These data center people do a horrible job in the governments, 560 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 2: the local government. State governments do a horrible job of 561 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 2: explaining what the benefit is and then being honest about 562 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 2: the risk. 563 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: I think it rests there. 564 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 2: What say you? 565 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 3: And it's so convoluted to especially when you get into 566 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 3: electricity talk. 567 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:28,479 Speaker 4: Uh. 568 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 3: You know, they kept pointing over to Aees throughout that 569 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 3: whole town hall and saying, well, you can talk to them. 570 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 3: You know, they promised they're not going to raise their rates. 571 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 3: But the problem is nobody trusts them, and for good reason. 572 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 7: Uh and uh, you know, one thing they keep saying 573 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 7: is that, oh, if we have more people buying electricity, 574 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 7: that means more data centers, then rates can be stabilized 575 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 7: because that's more people paying for you know, these new 576 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 7: energy generation facilities. 577 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 3: But the problem is that that totally ignores the state's 578 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 3: utility laws. You know, they haven't taken into account the 579 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,959 Speaker 3: fact that data centers pay less for unit of electricity 580 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 3: than residents. And there's just so many other things. 581 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 7: And you know that's why why I say that. 582 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 3: You know, if Governor Brown wants the lower electricity rates 583 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 3: and he you know, maybe he likes the data center, 584 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 3: still he needs to strengthen the i U r C 585 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 3: and push the legislature to get rid of some of 586 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 3: these utility policies essentially give AES and the monopoly utilities 587 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 3: whatever they want. 588 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 2: All right, find him over at indiestar dot com. Columnist 589 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 2: extraordinary Jacob Stewart, Thank you, yeah, thank you. 590 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 4: It's Keviln Casey on ninety three w IBC. 591 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 2: If I understanding this right that I get quoted in 592 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 2: this article, and what a job of journalism if indeed, 593 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 2: this is true. They basically took my quote to the 594 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 2: Governor's office and then they can start thoughts. 595 00:27:58,920 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: That's the way it looks. 596 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 4: Responded they did, they respond to you. 597 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: We got it, okay. 598 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 2: Next hour, there's this fabulous article that just came out 599 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 2: in the Indie Star by Kayla Dwyer. I think I 600 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 2: had mentioned that we had had a fabulous conversation a 601 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 2: couple of days ago, and she was working on something 602 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 2: and it's out now. You can read it now at 603 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 2: Indie Star. The title of it is, has Governor Mike 604 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 2: bron burned all his political capital on redistricting? And you're 605 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 2: half the article the top it. I love that disappears 606 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 2: that she took those quotes, which are great. I always 607 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 2: get done with these articles and go I'm gold for 608 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 2: these people. And she took those quotes to Braun and 609 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 2: they actually responded to it. So we'll talk about that 610 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 2: next hour. But in the meantime, Yeah, this Kurt Signetti 611 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 2: bobblehead is fascinating. 612 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 5: There's a bobblehead in the news. Another one and now 613 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 5: you can pre order it. So if you're a fan 614 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 5: of Kurt Signetti or Indiana football, you can purchase. The 615 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 5: first Kurt Signetti bobblehead is being released by the National 616 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 5: Head Bobblehead Hall of Fame and Museum, And I looked 617 00:28:59,680 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 5: for that. 618 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 4: That's in Milwaukee. Buck. 619 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: Oh wow, how much is it? Does it say? 620 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 4: If you wanted to go? 621 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 5: The price is forty dollars plus eight dollars shipping and 622 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 5: it's expected to ship in March. Wait. 623 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 2: Wait, wait, wait, you're telling me that the coach, the 624 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 2: statewide beloved coach of a university with tens of thousands 625 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 2: of generous, wealthy alumni, has a bobblehead and he's only 626 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 2: charging forty dollars for it. Correct, So, like of a 627 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 2: politician who is reviled by the people for not doing 628 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 2: his job or trying to charge five hundred. 629 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 4: This would be a better deal and. 630 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 2: Then didn't really sell any so he had to cut 631 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 2: the price to one hundred. 632 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: He's still probably not going to sell many. 633 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 4: Still, this is a better deal. 634 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 2: Based on the fact that the beloved coach is only 635 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 2: asking forty dollars for his bobble head. 636 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 637 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 5: So this bobblehead is interactive, by the way, if you 638 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 5: press a button, it plays Signetti's popular signing day quote 639 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 5: where he said it's pretty simple, I win Google makes well. 640 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 2: Isn't it fascinating that when he did that there were people, 641 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 2: I mean, some people loved it, right, but then there 642 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 2: were people who said, wow, they're a hot shot. You've 643 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 2: wonted a low level. But this is a whole new 644 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 2: ballgame in the Big ten. And this dude has absolutely 645 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 2: delivered times ten on everything he promised he was gonna go. 646 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 4: I love it, I win Google me. 647 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,479 Speaker 2: And it is fascinating where very and this has happened 648 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 2: very quickly, which is rare. Right there, Indiana went through 649 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 2: this with Bob Knight, where the coach becomes bigger than 650 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 2: the program itself. And if you look at EU basketball 651 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 2: really never has recovered even though it's been whatever it's 652 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 2: been twenty five years now since Bob Knight left IU, 653 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,959 Speaker 2: because in a weird way, they made Night, the people 654 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 2: made Night bigger than the program itself. And you see 655 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 2: this a lot of times with programs where they'll go 656 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 2: through Dean Smith when he left North Carolina, et cetera, 657 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 2: where it takes time for them to come back. Signetti 658 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 2: has almost become like you didn't have much of a 659 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 2: program before he got there. 660 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: But he is. 661 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: He has quickly become bigger than the program itself, and 662 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 2: he is sort of the face now of IU football. 663 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, so what they're ranked two? Who they don't play 664 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 4: this week? 665 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 2: No game this week for due next week. Okay, they'll 666 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 2: beat them by nine million, and then it's off to 667 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 2: the Big ten champions. 668 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 5: So the bobblehead, it's signetti. He's at a podium, he's 669 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 5: got a microphone and the Indiana logo is on the front, 670 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 5: and of course you can press the button and he talks. 671 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: I just love that this guy. 672 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 2: Who is this you know, like nashally renowned figure who's 673 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 2: now getting paid eleven point six million dollars a year. 674 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: To coach football. He's so good and liked. 675 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 2: And he's bringing tens of millions of dollars of economic 676 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 2: development and interest to a program that has really never. 677 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 4: Had clearly elevated the program, right. 678 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 2: Right, he's asking forty, they're asking forty for his bobblehead. 679 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 2: But there's a politician out there who is load, who 680 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 2: has the most recent polls show an approval rating in 681 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 2: which double the amount of people hate him as like him, 682 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 2: and most people don't even know who he is, and 683 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 2: he thought, oh, somebody will pay me five hundred dollars 684 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 2: for my bobblehead. Oh, that didn't work. They'll pay me 685 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 2: one hundred for it. We'll call it a Christmas discount. 686 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 5: That's what it is. It's a sale. So the Signette 687 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 5: bobble a business sale, that's what it is. It's an 688 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 5: individually numbered out of twenty and twenty three and it's 689 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 5: sold exclusively through the Hall of Fame and Museum, their 690 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 5: online store, and the co founder of the Bobblehead Hall 691 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 5: of Fame said that the Google meet quote and I 692 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 5: use recent success makes the bobblehead a likely fan favorite. Now, 693 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 5: if you're wanting to get this one for someone for Christmas, 694 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 5: is not going to be ready in time. 695 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 4: What they're not arriving until March? 696 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: What good does that do? 697 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 4: Not? 698 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 5: Right? 699 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: How could they have not had these ready for Christmas? 700 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 4: Casey, I don't know, Rob, How long. 701 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 2: Does it take to make a bobblehead that I don't Tarriffici? 702 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 4: Do you want me to try and get phil is 703 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 4: the Signifity. 704 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 2: Skuyler the Betty bobblehead being derailed by the tariffs? 705 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: Possibly, all right, when we come. 706 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 2: Back, we have to we have to talk about this 707 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 2: Indie Star article in which it appears this is brilliant 708 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 2: journalism by Kayla Dwyer. 709 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 4: She hass thank you because they used a picture of 710 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 4: you and all your quotes. 711 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 2: She asked the governor to her office to respond to 712 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 2: one of my quotes, and it appears they did. 713 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll get to it coming up. It's Kennelly Casey 714 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 4: on ninety three WIBC