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Speaker 1: Why from the Heartland and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: The team.

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Speaker 3: More discussions today, mister President. Are the territorial swaps on

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Speaker 3: the table? Will you be discussing that? They'll be discussed.

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Speaker 4: But I've got to let Ukraine make that decision, and

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Speaker 4: I think they'll make a proper decision. But I'm not

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Speaker 4: here to negotiate for Ukraine. I'm here to get them

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Speaker 4: at a table, and I think you have two sides. Look,

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Speaker 4: Vladimir Putin wanted to take all of Ukraine. If I

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Speaker 4: wasn't president, he would right now be taking all of Ukraine.

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Speaker 3: But he's not going to do.

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Speaker 5: It until he thinks he can take all of Ukraine

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Speaker 5: because that is what he wants. We're not kidding ourselves here,

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Speaker 5: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you.

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Speaker 5: That's President Trump on the plane from Andrews A two

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Speaker 5: anchorage for this meeting with Vladimir Putin making the statements

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Speaker 5: on the plane.

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Speaker 6: Just one thing, what about the postilty That is the

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Speaker 6: possibility of the United States providing security guarantees.

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Speaker 4: To ukraineavy along with Europe in other countries, not in

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Speaker 4: the form of NATO because that's not going to you know,

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Speaker 4: there are certain things that aren't going to happen, but yeah,

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Speaker 4: along with Europe, there's a possibility of them.

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Speaker 5: So not in terms of NATO or not in the

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Speaker 5: form of NATO means there isn't going to be a

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Speaker 5: key peacekeeping force of twenty five thousand troops with guns

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Speaker 5: pointed at Russian skulls. That's what it means. That's what

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Speaker 5: it means. But we're the ones who from the very

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Speaker 5: beginning said wait a second, whoa, whoa, woe and whoa

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Speaker 5: and hold it and what up? And hey and listen,

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Speaker 5: if we are going to be having this wearer, this

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Speaker 5: mineral rights deal with Ukraine and and we're going to

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Speaker 5: have US investment in getting these rare so we're going

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Speaker 5: to be putting in the infrastructure everything else. We're going

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Speaker 5: to protect it. We're going to protect it. And the

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Speaker 5: only way that it gets protected is by guys with

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Speaker 5: guns pointed at people who.

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Speaker 3: Might be an enemy. Right. I mean, there's there's no

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Speaker 3: other There's no other possible.

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Speaker 5: Argument, is there, Because doesn't seem to me like there

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Speaker 5: could be anything else you're talking about if we're not

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Speaker 5: talking about NATO and we're talking about some level of force.

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Speaker 5: I thought it would be the people who are already

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Speaker 5: protecting the American assets and interest, which would yes set

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Speaker 5: up huge problems for the Rusians because.

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Speaker 3: What do they do now? Shoot at our guys?

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Speaker 5: Oh oh oh, that's not gonna work out well, The

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Speaker 4: I said earlier this meet that Bootenwood faced severe consequences

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Speaker 4: if you get the sense from him, if he's not interested.

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Speaker 3: What do you mean by that?

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Speaker 4: Economically severe? Yes, it will be very severe. I'm not

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Speaker 4: doing this for my health. Okay, I don't need it.

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Speaker 4: I'd like to focus on our country. But I'm doing

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Speaker 4: this to save a lot of lives. Yeah, very severe.

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Speaker 5: The one thing, there have been so many people all

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Speaker 5: Well, here's what's gonna happen in the meaning, and here's

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Speaker 5: Trump's gonna fall for this, and Trump's gonna do that.

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Speaker 5: These people don't know anything. These are the people who

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Speaker 5: told me that Kamala Harris was gonna win Iowa by

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Speaker 5: four points. Come on, they don't know what they're talking

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Speaker 5: about at all. Here is what we know. I'll give

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Speaker 5: you the two things that we know that you can

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Speaker 5: and we'll start with the basic one. Russia did this.

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Speaker 5: Russia's at fault, Vladimir Putin's at fault. Ukraine is being attacked,

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Speaker 5: Russia's the aggressor. Any other argument is crazy. I'm happy

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Speaker 5: to debate it. When I say debate it, I mean

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Speaker 5: I'm happy to tell someone that they're wrong to make

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Speaker 5: That is different than whether or not we think that

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Speaker 5: Ukraine as run by Vladimir Zelenski is some great society.

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Speaker 5: You don't see me raising my hands saying absolutely, man,

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Speaker 5: if I only lived in Ukraine, it's not my argument,

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Speaker 5: not in the slightest Russia is the aggressor here, and

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Speaker 5: Russia is wrong. And I believe in providing Ukraine with

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Speaker 5: What we know for sure is that Trump made a

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Speaker 5: the promise I'll end this war on day one. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: that did not come to be. Then again, I would

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Speaker 3: Why he's just gonna walk in office, He's gonna pick

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Speaker 5: Now, I really got to work on my impressions. They're

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Speaker 5: just they're just not all right. My Norm MacDonald not bad.

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Speaker 5: But I'm not gonna do Norm McDonald's president of the

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Speaker 5: He wants this ended so he can say I ended it.

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Speaker 5: It matters to him in that regard. Someone said the

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Speaker 5: other day, I wanted that cable news outlet's he's just

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Speaker 5: you know, fishing for a for a Nobel Prize, Nobel

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Speaker 5: Peace Prize. There are worse things to fish for. Let's

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Speaker 5: say that's all he's after. He's after a Nobel Peace Prize.

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Speaker 5: There are worse things to aspire to, worse things to

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Speaker 5: have as a goal. Sean Combs aspired to getting more

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Speaker 5: baby oil. Trump wants world peace? Which one? Which one

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Speaker 5: you aspire to this, Should it be the Nobel Peace

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Speaker 5: Prize or more baby oil? To rub on the women

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Speaker 5: You're sex trafficking? Which one.

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Speaker 7: He's prize baby oil, Peace prize, baby Oil, Peace prize,

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Speaker 3: How long do you think I could keep that up,

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Speaker 3: Producer Landen? How long? I think you could probably keep

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Speaker 3: it up for probably thirty more seconds. You got you

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Speaker 3: gotta let all the people get their answers in. I

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Speaker 5: So there there is absolutely no doubt that he wants

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Speaker 5: to say promises made, promises kept. The other one, the

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Speaker 5: he really can't take it. And that's a that's not

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Speaker 5: a dig when you think of everything that as a

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Speaker 5: has handled in these in these political uh in this

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Speaker 5: it's it is unbelievable stuff. I'm telling you.

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Speaker 3: That the war stuff that I call it war stuff,

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Speaker 5: He cannot make it compute. It is clear that he

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Speaker 3: He can.

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Speaker 5: He can assess the situation and trust his gut, and

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Speaker 5: it has worked out out very well for him. And

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Speaker 5: where it has it's he's engaged lawsuits and forced it

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Speaker 5: I don't pretend something isn't when it is.

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Speaker 3: He's clearly got that.

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Speaker 5: In a way that few people do, or at least

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Speaker 3: He can't make the war stuff compute.

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Speaker 5: Why would you fight each other when you can just

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Speaker 3: Why are you doing this? He can't see it.

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Speaker 5: The historical context, context about land, context about culture, context

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Speaker 3: He cannot connect with it.

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Speaker 5: And I am not saying that's a bad thing, nor

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Speaker 5: I am saying that it's real. In every person, they

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Speaker 5: have things they can do and things that they cannot.

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Speaker 5: They have proclivities, things that they have a skill sets

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Speaker 3: It's like saying I'm very good at English. I'm terrible

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Speaker 5: People are terrible at math, very good at English. Right,

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Speaker 5: You've said this a billion times about different things.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you that he can't make it compute, and

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Speaker 5: Understand why anybody would do it to begin with, he's got.

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Speaker 3: To make it stop.

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Speaker 5: And as as much as there is a I'm the

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Speaker 5: He has to make it stop. And because of who

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Speaker 5: I am I really off base with this kind of understanding.

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Speaker 5: I mean, are we the only ones who ever actually

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Speaker 3: Can't see it. He can't figure out why anybody's doing this? Why?

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Speaker 5: What is wrong with you? There's no need for this,

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Speaker 5: can't get him stop. That's my take on Trump and

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Speaker 5: War that at a molecular level, he can't believe anybody

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Speaker 5: make it stop because he can't reconcile why it happens,

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Speaker 3: I have been trying to put this together for a year,

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Speaker 5: That's the first time I ever said it the way

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Speaker 5: I meant it, the way I play it in my head.

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Speaker 3: That's it. We'll see if I'm right. Meanwhile, the meeting's

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Speaker 5: Everybody who's got a commentary leading up to the meeting

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Speaker 3: Let's see what comes out of it.

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Speaker 5: The only thing I would say is, no matter what

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Speaker 5: Putin agrees to, you can't actually.

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Speaker 3: Believe he's going to stick to it.

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Speaker 5: Oh and you have to be willing to swing the

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Speaker 5: stick and hard. With that said, let's see what happens.

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Speaker 5: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony kats today. Other countries

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Speaker 5: calling to divide up property you took in the Sixth

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Speaker 5: Day War, that israelly property and making it a state

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Speaker 5: of people that want to kill you.

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Speaker 2: They used to say about Beirut, it is the Paris

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Speaker 2: East of Europe. And I say to President Macron, to

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Speaker 2: Prime Ministers Summer and all of those wanting to establish

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Speaker 2: a so called Palestinian state, put it up in London,

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Speaker 2: put it up in Paris, in your countries, because we

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Speaker 2: are not going to reward the atrocities of October seventh,

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Speaker 2: which is what they do.

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Speaker 3: Fact, that is the fact.

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Speaker 5: That is a Mira Hamma, who is the speaker there

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Speaker 5: of the Knesset, right the Israeli Parliament, to the Israeli Congress,

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Speaker 5: however you.

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Speaker 3: Want to call it.

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Speaker 5: Being interviewed by Carl Higbee, who is in Israel this

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Speaker 5: past week, the idea of a state being in Paris

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Speaker 5: So good? Right there? You reward October seventh, your nuts.

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Speaker 5: So Buddha Judge is on this podcast and he won't

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Speaker 5: You're so mealy mouthed. And his answer is Israel bad.

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Speaker 5: He is exactly what you thought he was, as is

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Speaker 2: Because in our region everyone gets the message hamaswe once

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Speaker 2: Saying it's going to be very bad if other countries

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you here in this.

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Speaker 2: But this is not only a bad message because of

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Speaker 5: Leftists love it is, Foreign nations love it. We have

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Speaker 3: Keep it here. This is Tony Kats today.

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Speaker 6: Morning WELL i didn't take, long you, KNOW i said

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Speaker 5: Here we're talking about a guy by the last name of, McLeod, mullens.

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Speaker 5: Here he is The democratic candidate or The, yeah he's

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Speaker 3: Life and THEN i get in a. Shower THEN i

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Speaker 6: SCHOOL i dropped him off at seven thirty AND i

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Speaker 3: Five today is a normal. Day it's not a normal.

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Speaker 5: Day South Carolina Democratic party putting out a Statement moms

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Speaker 5: McLeod is a skilled, attorney a Former County Democratic party

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Speaker 5: a campaign for. Governor we offer him compassion and pray

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Speaker 5: he finds the support he. Needs, translation would you please

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Speaker 5: You he's been preparing for this moment his whole. Life

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Speaker 3: So that. Happened of, course.

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Speaker 5: All the talk is about the, redistricting and you Have.

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Speaker 3: Be and this brings us to some peace people trying

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Speaker 5: Mervan that is a district that you could move some

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Speaker 5: would put forth to you that they're going to do that,

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Speaker 5: anyway it's. Coming he didn't say it as a. Threat

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Speaker 5: he did it because he's going to do. It but

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Speaker 5: why would that statement from the governor Of california get

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Speaker 5: me to now say To Indiana, republicans what are you

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Speaker 5: doing go about redistricting The Republican not every state is the,

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Speaker 5: Same not Every republican party is the. Same And republicans

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Speaker 5: In indiana are. Strange WHEN i say, strange the super majority,

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Speaker 5: massive massive numbers in The State house and in The State, senate.

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Speaker 3: Massive numbers so much so THAT i think it makes them.

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Speaker 3: Lazy they get.

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Speaker 5: Way too, comfortable way too, comfortable and in doing, so

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Speaker 5: they do not have, Boldness they do not have vision at,

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Speaker 5: all none less than. None their immediate reaction to, this

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Speaker 5: to this redistricting In indiana was now it's not for.

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Speaker 3: Us What Gavin newsom is doing is.

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Speaker 5: Retribution What texas is doing is a political.

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Speaker 3: Process in the state Of.

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Speaker 5: Texas there are progressives who refuse to understand.

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Speaker 3: This, well if you do, this we'll do. That, whoa

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Speaker 3: that's an issue for the state Of.

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Speaker 5: Texas why Is california doing anything regarding what the state

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Speaker 5: Of texas is. Doing handle your own damn. Business you're

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Speaker 5: going to engage in. Retribution you can disagree With, texas

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Speaker 5: but they're doing something that's. Legal you say that that's,

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Speaker 5: wrong and your answer, is, well If texas does, it

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Speaker 5: we're going to do it.

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Speaker 3: Too you're taking out your political anger.

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Speaker 5: On the people Of california because you don't like What

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Speaker 5: texas is, doing and you're not Giving texans the chance

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Speaker 5: to take it out on their elected. OFFICIALS i cannot

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Speaker 5: get progressives to understand what it is they're.

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Speaker 3: Doing they favor.

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Speaker 5: Retribution so my response is if this is what the

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Speaker 5: left is going to, do.

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Speaker 3: If they do, this well then all bets are.

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Speaker 5: Off this is how we have to fight redistrict don't

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Speaker 5: allow A democrat to hold a congressional seat in the

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Speaker 5: state Of indiana and don't let any red state allow

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Speaker 5: A democrat to hold a seat.

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Speaker 3: Anywhere this is the way it's going to. Be.

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Speaker 5: Now they can't under they can't do the mouth because

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Speaker 5: they're purposefully. Obtuse texas is engaged in a political process

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Speaker 5: and another state was doing is it would be a

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Speaker 5: political process that we'd be opposed to.

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Speaker 3: It you're now going to, say, well if you do,

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Speaker 3: this we'll do. That that's.

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Speaker 5: Retribution and if that's the game you want to, play

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00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 5: that game is going to get played all across the.

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Speaker 5: Country just happy to kind of spell that out for.

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Speaker 5: Everybody this Is Tony katz. Today so why do the

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Speaker 5: fact checkers always get it? Wrong it could have something

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Speaker 5: to do with the fact that checking the facts is

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Speaker 5: not what a fact checker. Does Tony, Katz Tony katz,

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Speaker 5: Today good to be with.

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Speaker 3: You it's just what they call.

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Speaker 5: That they call it fact, checker like they call It

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Speaker 5: Central Intelligence.

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Speaker 3: Agency when's the last time THE cia got anything?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, listen IF i get, disappeared you'll know it wasn't.

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Speaker 5: Me and and if you See Hillary, CLINTON i did

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Speaker 5: not kill.

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Speaker 3: MYSELF i am not.

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Speaker 5: Suicidal thank, You thank you very, Much Tony, katz what's going?

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Speaker 3: On this was over at the editors dot.

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Speaker 5: Com Washington post fact checker was completely wrong On Wuhan laveleye.

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Speaker 3: Headline he, says, yeah we. Know he, SAYS i screwed.

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Speaker 5: UP i was completely, wrong speaking of what he called

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Speaker 5: his infinite. Regret you were not wrong because you were

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Speaker 5: wrong because people can be. Wrong you were wrong because

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Speaker 5: you needed to be. Wrong you were wrong because you

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Speaker 5: were dishonest with. Yourself AND i am curious whether or

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Speaker 5: not he is aware of.

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Speaker 3: This you were wrong ABOUT covid and a host of

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Speaker 3: other things because you refuse to be honest about what

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Speaker 3: it was that was happening to you around, you.

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Speaker 5: With your fellow travelers in the political, left or at

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Speaker 5: least those that you were surrounded by in the political,

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00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 5: left which is everybody that you were surrounded. By that's

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Speaker 5: that happens. EVERYWHERE i, mean that story is now a standard.

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Speaker 5: Story it is not that you got the story. Wrong

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Speaker 5: it's Like Jake tapper, saying, Man Joe biden was really

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Speaker 5: in a bad.

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Speaker 3: WAY i had no.

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Speaker 5: Idea of course you. Did you just wouldn't report on.

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Speaker 5: It you wouldn't do anything about. It you refused to

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Speaker 5: do your, job because that meant running a foul of

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Speaker 5: the people you do your job. With that's just the.

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Speaker 5: Facts And i'm not even talking about running a foul

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Speaker 5: of the leadership or the ownership OF. Cnn i'm talking

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Speaker 5: about some segment. Producer you didn't want to run a

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00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 5: foul of him or her or they, them so you,

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Speaker 5: Didn't and then you have the audacity to tell, us

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Speaker 5: man That Joe, biden he's not so super sharp in

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Speaker 5: the brain. Parts i'm going to write.

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Speaker 3: A book now and make bank that's what this. Is

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00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,240
Speaker 3: so when you tell us that you got it wrong.

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00:34:53,800 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 5: ABOUT covid, nineteen no one's shot that you got it completely.

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Speaker 3: Wrong you meant to get it. Wrong, now if he

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Speaker 3: wants to tell me that wasn't the, Case i'll, say all, right.

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Speaker 5: If you want to believe, that that's. Fine but the

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00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 5: rest of us kind of see it the way it.

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Speaker 5: Is this Is Tony kats. Today