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Speaker 1: City. It is the twenty fourth anniversary of nine to eleven.

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Speaker 1: It's Kenny Casey's show and Rob that's Casey. We will

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Speaker 1: have a lot more Charlie Kirk thoughts, commentary, etc. Coming

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Speaker 1: up throughout the course of the program today, including in

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Speaker 1: the interview. I'd totally forgotten this, and I felt horrible

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Speaker 1: afterwards that my wife reminded me I had interviewed Charlie

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Speaker 1: Kirk three and a half years ago now, and so

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Speaker 1: we will actually play that interview for you. He was

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Speaker 1: here in Indianapolis for Central Indiana for an event, but

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Speaker 1: obviously today Normally on this day, we spend a great

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Speaker 1: deal of time talking about arguably the most significant event

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Speaker 1: in American history, the tragedy of the mass calamity, destruction,

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Speaker 1: lives loss that was that was nine to eleven. Casey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Governor Brown has ordered all flags in Indiana to

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Speaker 2: be flown at half staff today from sunrise to sunset

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Speaker 2: in remembrance of the nine to eleven victims, nearly three

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Speaker 2: thousand people who lost their lives, and the flag lowering

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Speaker 2: is also to honor first responders and people who risked

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Speaker 2: or gave their lives in rescue efforts. He has encouraged

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Speaker 2: all homes and businesses in Indiana to lower their flags

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Speaker 2: in solidarity. He called the attacks and unspeakable tragedy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so there's always so many. Somebody told me this

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Speaker 1: years ago. I was very young and a knew in

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Speaker 1: the radio business. And this was a couple of years

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Speaker 1: after nine to eleven. In fact, it was when the

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Speaker 1: Space Shuttle exploded and was the aftermath of that. And

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Speaker 1: this person was a longtime radio veteran, and they said,

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Speaker 1: you know, you will earn your money on days where

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Speaker 1: things happen that you'd never see coming. And obviously to

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Speaker 1: this extent, it's you know, he said, how you deal

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Speaker 1: with these things as a professional will be how people

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Speaker 1: kind of judge you. All in all is a broadcaster.

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Speaker 1: And obviously we're dealing that with Charlie Kirk. But he

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Speaker 1: also said to me, he said, because we were talking

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Speaker 1: about different tragedies in American history, was after the Space

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Speaker 1: Shuttle explosion. He said, when things like the Space Shuttle

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Speaker 1: explosion or on a much greater scale nine to eleven,

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Speaker 1: because the amount of people impacted happen, no individual can

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Speaker 1: understand the calamity of that unless they are directly impacted

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Speaker 1: by it, you can't even begin to under And this

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Speaker 1: always stood with me, he said, you can't even begin

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Speaker 1: to understand no matter how many tributes you pay, or

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Speaker 1: how much you read about it, or how much you

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Speaker 1: interview people who are impacted by it, you can't even

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Speaker 1: begin to understand the magnitude of it unless you were

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Speaker 1: directly impacted by it. And I still think about that

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Speaker 1: all these years later, that that is absolutely right in

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Speaker 1: times of national tragedy, certainly to something the level of

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Speaker 1: nine to eleven. Twenty plus years later, almost twenty five

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Speaker 1: years on, I still don't think we've even scratched the

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Speaker 1: surface on what a horrific event that was.

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Speaker 2: There were so many people that were directly impacted, but

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Speaker 2: I would say the entire country was directly impacted that

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Speaker 2: day in some way. Your life changed, Yeah, your life

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Speaker 2: changed absolutely in that moment, and America never recovered by

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Speaker 2: and large.

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Speaker 1: You look at the terrorists really won that day in

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Speaker 1: the sense of not just the calamity they inflicted, but

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Speaker 1: the way our entire society changed and our system of governance,

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Speaker 1: how it changed, and the things we began to accept

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Speaker 1: in terms of changing our American way of life and

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Speaker 1: the surveillance state and the money that has spent. And

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Speaker 1: I mean, you look at the national debt. I bet

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Speaker 1: if I do this, give me just a second here,

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Speaker 1: I bet we will. We blowed away with the national

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Speaker 1: debt was in two thousand and one compared to what

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Speaker 1: it is today. And you know, all of these things

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Speaker 1: were the desires of the terrorist so much more than

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Speaker 1: just beyond how much damage can we inflict on that day,

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Speaker 1: and by that standard that it was a very it

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Speaker 1: was a very successful day for them. But and we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about this throughout the course of our program today.

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Speaker 1: We seem to forget sometimes, or it's easy to forget.

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Speaker 1: I should say, all the people that showed the best

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Speaker 1: of what America was on that day. By the way,

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Speaker 1: the national you want to take a guess in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and one, what the national debt was, casey.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, ten.

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Speaker 1: Trillion, five trillion, eight hundred and seven billion. Think about that.

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Speaker 1: In twenty five years we have gone up over roughly

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Speaker 1: six times our national debt in the first two hundred

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Speaker 1: and what was that twenty five years? Our national debt

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Speaker 1: in twenty five years has increased six times what it

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Speaker 1: did in the first two and twenty five years of

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Speaker 1: the country, and it all started. The irresponse, the spend,

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Speaker 1: the out of control spending, the deficits that will be

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Speaker 1: gotten worse. All this stuff started around nine to eleven,

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Speaker 1: so that little to our side. One of the things

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Speaker 1: that should never be forgotten though, is while the government

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Speaker 1: has made serious mistakes, our country has made serious mistakes,

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Speaker 1: the country is dramatically impacted. Nine to eleven still showed

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Speaker 1: the best of who we are as humans, because it

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Speaker 1: showcased all of the people who were willing to give

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Speaker 1: of themselves, including up to and including their own lives,

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Speaker 1: so that others might live