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Speaker 1: So Kenny Loggins. He was speaking out against Donald Trump's

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Speaker 1: use of the song danger Zone, The Kenny Loggins, The

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Speaker 1: Kenny Loggins.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the is danger Zone? The like when you

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Speaker 2: think of Kenny Loggins as that first song that pops into.

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Speaker 1: Your head, Yeah, probably that and then maybe Footloose and then.

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Speaker 2: I'm all right, I'm all right. I was gonna say,

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Speaker 2: very good at making songs for movies. That became his stick, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, he in the nineteen eighties, he was a

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Speaker 2: machine in terms of making those very catchy, clever movie songs,

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Speaker 2: and he made a gajillion dollars off doing that.

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Speaker 1: He demanded Trump remove the song from the AI meme.

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Speaker 1: And this is the meme we mentioned it yesterday. The

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Speaker 1: video depicts Trump and a fighter jet and he's bombing

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Speaker 1: No King's protesters with what appears to be fecal matter.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so let's talk about a couple things with this first.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to the meme itself in a second. Does

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Speaker 2: he own or did he sell his catalog?

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Speaker 1: And he sold his catalog, so it so he doesn't

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Speaker 1: even own the music anymore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So does he have a right to say, Well, no, obviously,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he doesn't. Now, can you make like I

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Speaker 2: get if you're playing music, like at an event, you

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Speaker 2: got to pay the ascap BMI whatever, which is how

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Speaker 2: Trump gets away with it, even though the law A

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Speaker 2: lot of these artists object to him playing their songs.

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Speaker 2: He pays the does his does ascat b M? I

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Speaker 2: c sack cover him for me? Memes to Internet related

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Speaker 2: to his account and can you can you force somebody

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Speaker 2: to take a meme down? I don't know that's for

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Speaker 2: a for a lawyer, but yeah, if you sold the rights,

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Speaker 2: you can't. You can't like trying to re you know,

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Speaker 2: claim something you gave to somebody and that found out

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Speaker 2: it was worth a bunch of money and saying you

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Speaker 2: want it back. You can't. You can't do that. You're

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Speaker 2: out of the game.

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Speaker 1: So Kenny Logan said that he was not asked for permission,

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Speaker 1: he would not have given it, and he demanded that

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Speaker 1: his recording be removed immediately.

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Speaker 2: Well, it doesn't sound like if he doesn't own the rights,

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Speaker 2: he did definitely sell. We know that for a fact. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 2: I think you don't have to be asked if you

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Speaker 2: don't own it anymore. I mean the same way as

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Speaker 2: like when Michael Jackson bought the Beatles catalog, he could

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Speaker 2: do with it whatever he wanted. And we can also

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Speaker 2: agree that Loggins and Messina was better than anything Kenny

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Speaker 2: Loggins did on his own age, with that not as successful.

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Speaker 2: What's the Pooh Corner? Return to Pooh Corner? keV? Can

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Speaker 2: you google that real quick that you know what song

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about?

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Speaker 1: See? That may have been more appropriate.

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Speaker 2: You have see what of right? I didn't wait, I

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Speaker 2: think it was not that pooh Yeah? Total, what is it?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 2: There's a Logins and Messina song? Return to Pooh Corner.

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Speaker 2: Keev's being very slow here, so I'm gonah, I see it? Well,

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Speaker 2: it says it was from the album returned to Pooh Corner. Yes,

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Speaker 2: that's what it was. But it's Logins and Messina, right, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: there you go? Yeah yeah, okay, you never played that

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Speaker 2: song on all the radio stations you program. You have

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Speaker 2: no idea what I'm talking about? No, I know the

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Speaker 2: song you're I know you're talking at me, like, what

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Speaker 2: is he talking about?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: I know what you're talking about. No, I never played

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Speaker 2: that earlier. It was the top top something, wasn't.

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Speaker 1: It In the late mid seventies. Yeah, it actually it

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Speaker 1: reached its peak position was fifty.

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Speaker 2: Three on the US Hot one hundred fifty three. We

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Speaker 2: used to well, the reason I know this is our

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Speaker 2: new listeners who have not been with the long time.

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Speaker 2: Casey and I years ago worked for the same radio owner,

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Speaker 2: operator radio station owner. He loved Casey rightfully, so I

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Speaker 2: don't think he felt the same way about me. He

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Speaker 2: tolerated you, but we didn't work together at the same time.

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Speaker 2: But we worked for this the same guy, and part

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Speaker 2: of his deal was the classic rock station I worked at.

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Speaker 2: He would play they were labeled as the Z's. They

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Speaker 2: were labeled as Z so they were deep cuts, and

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Speaker 2: every so often he would play kind of they were obscure,

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Speaker 2: heard that song in you know, thirty years or whatever.

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Speaker 2: And we used to play that as one of the

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Speaker 2: deep cuts, and I was like, who in the world.

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Speaker 1: You know? My theory songs like that oh wows turned

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Speaker 1: into oh no's really quickly. But the White House responded

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Speaker 1: to this. He said, I feel the need for speed

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Speaker 1: and speaker Mike Johnson, he was giving a press conference

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Speaker 1: talking about the government shutdown, and a reporter asked him

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Speaker 1: why President Trump posted a video of him pooping on

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Speaker 1: No King's protesters.

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Speaker 2: Hey that the president United States over the weekend at

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Speaker 2: least a video of him pooping on the American people.

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Speaker 3: The president uses social media to make the point. You

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Speaker 3: can argue he's probably the most effective person who's ever

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Speaker 3: used social media for that is, he is using satire

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Speaker 3: to make a point. He is not calling for the

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Speaker 3: murder of his political opponents. And that's what these people

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Speaker 3: are doing. I mean there in one of these photos,

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Speaker 3: I think there's a picture of the president and hanging

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Speaker 3: in an effigy.

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Speaker 2: By a noose.

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Speaker 3: On one of these mark one of the fore him.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's unconscionable. Look with America is bill

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Speaker 3: on the idea of free speech. You have the right

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Speaker 3: to protest. Of course, we jealously guard that. Mean, Chip

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Speaker 3: and I are attorneys. We've defended that right in the course.

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Speaker 3: But but what they're what they're doing right now is different.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they are trying to incite violence. This is

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Speaker 3: it's not funny. You don't mock a president who has

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Speaker 3: already had two failed assassination attempts on his life. This

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Speaker 3: is not a game, and the idea that communists would

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Speaker 3: be supporting this is unconscionable to us.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine you're in this press conference with the

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Speaker 1: Speaker of the House and that's the question.

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Speaker 2: Okay, But the question really is how is this helpful?

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Speaker 2: Like how what is Trump's goal and how does this

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Speaker 2: help him or help our country get a desired result.

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Speaker 2: It's not whether it's funny or not. It's that if

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Speaker 2: you want to be a funny go be a comedian

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Speaker 2: or host of television show. He'd probably be great at that,

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Speaker 2: might be wildly entertaining, but that's you check that at

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Speaker 2: the door when you're the leader of the country. Well

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Speaker 2: he did host a TV show, Well, I mean that's

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm saying, like a you know, a stand

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Speaker 2: up show, a variety or whatever. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Right The point is, I don't I don't understand how

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Speaker 2: that's gonna What is he trying to accomplish, and how

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Speaker 2: does that help him? Because right now all he should

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Speaker 2: care about is be focused on getting the votes. I

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Speaker 2: assume he's for the House funding bill, getting those additional

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Speaker 2: votes like how like, how is he well, I mean

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Speaker 2: he has a said he's against it. He hasn't stepped

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Speaker 2: up and said I'm not for this. To take it back?

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Speaker 2: He isn't, you know, as soon he signed off on

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Speaker 2: whatever Johnson did. And I just like, I don't think

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Speaker 2: it's helpful. I think, you know, it's funny, but I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't want my prison to be funny. I want

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Speaker 2: him to be effective, and I think it just eggs

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Speaker 2: these people on. And sometimes it seems like Trump is

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Speaker 2: there to entertain himself more than ponder whatever I do.

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Speaker 2: How does this help me make our country better? How

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Speaker 2: does it help me get votes? How does it help

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Speaker 2: unite people?

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Speaker 1: Do you think it was him making a comment about

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Speaker 1: how ridiculous he thought the No King's protests were, Uh, well,

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Speaker 1: maybe you're gonna do this, then I'm gonna be silly too.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's fine, but you're the president. You're not some

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Speaker 2: idiot in the street. That's why you're the president. And

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Speaker 2: there's some idiot in the street, Like I just I

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Speaker 2: don't know. I'm sure people are just livid that I'm

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Speaker 2: saying this, but I just I think he does things

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Speaker 2: that are of a detriment too. If your goal is

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Speaker 2: to govern effectively in an efficient manner, I think he

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Speaker 2: does things that are that cause that to be very

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Speaker 2: hard to pull off.

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Speaker 1: It takes seriousness away from his position.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah,