1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Live from Vaal Hartbeyer and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: Greetings, this is Tony Katz today. I am not Tony Katz. 4 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: I am Mike Coolidge, an old old radio friend of 5 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: mister Katz. Honored to be joining you. 6 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: You yeah, you listening to this right now. 7 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: I did a radio show for fifteen straight years syndicated 8 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 2: in the Midwest. Much like Tony Katz. We saw each 9 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 2: other at various national events. I'd see him at the 10 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: national conventions, Republican National Convention, I think the Democrat National 11 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: Convention too a couple of times for the election years, 12 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 2: and then Seapack just about every single year, the Conservative 13 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 2: Political Action Conference. And I have been on Tony show 14 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 2: as a guest, and he's been on my show as 15 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 2: a guest. And I ended my radio show in twenty 16 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: twenty one to run for Congress. I did not win. 17 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: It was the midterms of twenty twenty two did not 18 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 2: go the Republicans way as much as we thought it 19 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 2: was going to. I still remain in politics, and with 20 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 2: every waking hour of my day, I'm attempting to help 21 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: move the conservative cause forward and yes, gain seats in 22 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: both the House and the Senate nationally. That is what 23 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: I'm trying to do. I'm trying to turn my state 24 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 2: purple and then read I happened to make my home 25 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: in Illinois. I know many of you are listening on 26 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: various states throughout the Midwest, including Missouri, Indiana, and I 27 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: believe Michigan too, and Illinois. I think I think Tony's 28 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 2: on a station or two in Illinois. But I I 29 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: missed the radio to a certain extent. I definitely had 30 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: a great time doing it for fifteen years. Interviewed some 31 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 2: amazing people I got, like Tony to broadcast from the 32 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: White House, and I interviewed President Trump twice on two 33 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: separate occasions. The first time actually way back in twenty ten. No, no, gosh, 34 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 2: it was twenty twelve when he was, believe it or not, 35 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: he was. 36 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: Stumping for Mitt Romney. 37 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: We got a call about I don't know, twenty four 38 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 2: hours before the primary in Illinois. And when a candidate 39 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: gets the nomination or it gets close to the nomination, 40 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: they have a bunch of surrogates get offered, and much 41 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 2: like Tony, I'm sure he gets tons of you know, 42 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 2: emails from the White House from from the Republican National Committee, 43 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: and I did as well on my show. So somebody said, hey, 44 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 2: do you want to talk Donald Trump, and I said 45 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 2: sure absolutely. They're like, hey, he's you know, gonna come 46 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: on and stump for Mint Romney. So I said, yeah, absolutely. 47 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: So I at the time was a huge Apprentice fan, 48 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: and I grew up in the same state, by the way, 49 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: as Tony Katz. 50 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. 51 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 2: If Tony is a very private man. I know a 52 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: little bit more than you do about him privately, I think, 53 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: but I'm not. 54 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: At liberty to tell you what those things are. 55 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 2: I don't even know if I'm at liberty to tell 56 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 2: you what state Tony Katz grew up in, because like me, 57 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 2: he is a transplanted Midwestern I hope that's okay to say. 58 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: But anyway, we grew up on the same the same coast, 59 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 2: let's put it that way. 60 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: Donald Trump was a. 61 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 2: Part of my childhood and life very much so. In 62 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 2: the state I grew up in. I knew him, you know, 63 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: as a figure in the world in the eighties and 64 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: the nineties, and I watched The Apprentice every single episode. 65 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: I was a huge man. My wife and I was 66 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: like a. 67 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: Date night for us, even when we weren't even engaged yet, 68 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: we were watching the Apprentice. So when he came on 69 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: It's stump for Mint Romney on a March morning of 70 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: twenty twelve, I thought he was going to talk about 71 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 2: the you know, Mitt Romney the whole time, but very 72 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: quickly he talked about Mitt Romney for about thirty seconds, 73 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: and I just said, hey, I'm a huge fan of 74 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 2: the Apprentice, and next thing, you know, the whole conversation 75 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: is about the Apprentice. We actually even brought up Rod Blogoyevitch, 76 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: who had just finished being on the Apprentice, and he 77 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 2: said that Bogoievitch got, you know, a little bit disproportionate 78 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: a sentence for his politics, which you know is arguable 79 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: in my state. But I think he definitely served his time, 80 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 2: and Rob Bogoievitch, after spending some time in prison and 81 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: think came out a smarter man. 82 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: Certainly leans more to the right now. I think he 83 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:43,239 Speaker 1: might have actually even. 84 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: Switched parties and is officially a Republican now. But anyway, 85 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 2: Donald Trump was a fascinating interview. And then I interviewed 86 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 2: him again in the for about twenty minutes in twenty sixteen, 87 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 2: and I I always describe. And I know Tony Katz 88 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: has interviewed President Trump as well. I think I think 89 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 2: Tony actually interviewed him in the White House or in 90 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: you know, the old Executive Office building right on the 91 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,119 Speaker 2: White House grounds there. And what's What's the thing about 92 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 2: interviewing Trump is that you it's like batting against a 93 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: cy young winner. The cy young winner can tell you 94 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 2: I'm about to throw a curveball, I'm about to throw 95 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 2: a fastball, and you can know that he's going to. 96 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: Throw it, and you'll still strike out. 97 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 2: And so you know, you can do all the research 98 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: in the world with Donald Trump, and you know, you 99 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: can have all your questions ready and know exactly how 100 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: you want to ask him, and you know, do you 101 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 2: want to make it interesting by challenging him on some 102 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 2: things whatever. I challenged him a little bit on entitlements 103 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 2: back in twenty sixteen. You know, I thought in our 104 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 2: country and I still think our country's spending a little 105 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: bit too much on Medicare and medicaid so security in 106 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 2: the sense that it's disproportionate with our tax revenue owners 107 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: or some way we can reform those things for the 108 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 2: future and gotten a really good discussion with him about it. 109 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: But you can have that all set up and he 110 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 2: will still dominate the conversation and charm you in such 111 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: a way that he you know, he's. 112 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 1: In control the whole time. 113 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 2: And I still, even towards the end of my radio show, 114 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 2: I would play a little clip of him saying, you know, Mike, 115 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: I love I've heard so much about your show. I 116 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: heard your ratings are fantastic, which is true. I did 117 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 2: have extremely good ratings, but I know he didn't know that. 118 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 2: But he knew what to say, you know, he knew 119 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: what to say to immediately put me in a very 120 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: happy position. 121 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: And I don't know. 122 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 2: I had a really good time interviewing him, and so 123 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 2: many other great people on the ground did in Washington, 124 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: d C. Too, at Sea Pack, where Tony and I 125 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 2: would would work there from Radio Row and Tony and 126 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 2: I would have cigars off the air and talk about 127 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 2: many things. And he asked me, I guess a couple 128 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 2: of days ago to fill in today. And I happen 129 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 2: to still have my radio equipment in my radio studio 130 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 2: in my home, and I do podcasting for various things now, 131 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 2: and I work full time in. 132 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: The political world. But I said, yeah, I can carve 133 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: out the. 134 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: Middle of my day in Rush Limbaugh's old time slot 135 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: to talk to the awesome listeners of Tony Kats Today. 136 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: And that I am doing, I say, I make my 137 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: my career and my I pay for my dinner. 138 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: In politics, and later on this hour, we're going to 139 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 2: talk to Carrie Pickett from the Washington Examiner, who I 140 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 2: know is a frequent guest on Tony Katz's show. I say, 141 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: Washington Examiner. I better get that right, because I know 142 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 2: she's switched a couple times to different outlets in Washington, 143 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 2: d C. Carrie Pickett, it's Washington Times. 144 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. 145 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 2: She's the White House correspondent for the Washington Times. So 146 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 2: when you often see or hear maybe on the show 147 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: us going live to the White House feed, and sometimes 148 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 2: that is in the Oval Office when he has a 149 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 2: dignitary or a president or a prime minister from another country, 150 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: and then you got the press gaggle there. Carry Pickett's 151 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 2: frequently one of those press gagglers, and she is going 152 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 2: to bring us some insight later on this hour about 153 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: the jerry mandering slash re drawing of maps that are 154 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: occurring throughout the United States. That may or may not 155 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 2: result in the Republicans keeping control of the House of 156 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 2: Representatives and the Senate so that we can continue the 157 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 2: President Trump agenda in making this country awesome, in continuing 158 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 2: to make this country awesome, and to continue to perpetuate 159 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 2: this Golden Age. Yes, I am partisan, blind, you know, 160 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 2: completely unapologetically partisan. I want this country to have more 161 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: Republicans in its legislator, legislature, in Congress than Democrats. I 162 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 2: want more conservative Supreme Court justices. I want a Republican 163 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 2: in the White House to remain there and to serve 164 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 2: for eight years after Trump. I wake up every morning 165 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 2: and devote my entire day to doing everything I can 166 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 2: to ensure those things happen and that the needle continues 167 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 2: to remain on the right. Our culture has changed so 168 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 2: much since the first time Tony Katz and I had 169 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 2: a conversation in Washington, d C. Both he and I 170 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: I know interacted a lot with Andrew Breitbart. May he 171 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 2: rest in peace. He died at forty three years old. Gosh, 172 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 2: that I think was in twenty twenty fourteen. I want 173 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 2: to say, kind of, I think it's been over ten 174 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 2: years since since Andrew Breibard passed away. But that time 175 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 2: period in the in the early teens was was was 176 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 2: a weird time. You know. It was the beginning of 177 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: the Barack Obama presidency and the Tea Party movement started 178 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 2: around two thousand and nine twenty ten, and we didn't 179 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 2: really know where the conservative. 180 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: Movement was going. 181 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 2: We had, you know, obviously eight years of President Bush. 182 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 2: Kind of a mixed bag there. You know, obviously the 183 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 2: country united after September eleventh, uh, the you know, going 184 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 2: into Afghanistan, the beginning of Iraq. I was in the 185 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 2: military actually at the time, I was an Army captain. 186 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 2: I served in the beginning of Operation Iraqi Freedom for 187 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: one year in Kuwait and Iraq. And you know, the 188 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 2: mindset of the right that time was very pro war, 189 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 2: pro national defense. We should all be pro national defense, right, 190 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 2: But I at the time was very supportive of our 191 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 2: decision to go into Iraq. Looking back on it, like 192 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: we all can do twenty years later, over twenty years later, 193 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 2: you say, like many things this country has decided to 194 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 2: do and not do, say, well, you know, maybe that 195 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 2: shouldn't happened, or maybe it should have ended here, or 196 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 2: maybe we were in Afghanistan for a bit too long 197 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 2: at the time, though in the present, you could only 198 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: make decisions about what you know at the time. So 199 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: I remember getting this debate with a conservative friend of mine, 200 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 2: you know, who said, well, I mean, if you're a 201 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 2: conservative these days, you have to be, you know, completely 202 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 2: anti Iraq war and anti Afghanistan war. 203 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, yeah, it's easy to say that now. 204 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 2: At the time though, I mean, Tucker Carlson was pro 205 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 2: Iraq War, Russian Mbaugh was pro Iraq War. We all 206 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 2: were on the right, and all the people fighting against 207 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 2: it seemed like the hippies and the piece Nicks and 208 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 2: the and the you know, uh there was it was 209 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 2: mostly left who were on the anti war side of 210 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: the time, obviously, But if you keep your eyes open 211 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: and you actually absorb facts and you use your brain, 212 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 2: it is okay too. As things develop and things change 213 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 2: change your mind, that's okay. And I'll tell you, as 214 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 2: somebody who not just was supportive of, you know, Operation 215 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 2: of Raki Freedom and Operation and Dirk Freedom, but actually 216 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 2: participated in it as an active duty member of the 217 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 2: military in a combat zone, I have no regrets about 218 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 2: supporting those decisions at the time. However, I have learned 219 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 2: from those decisions we made, and some of them were 220 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 2: bad in the aftermath, and I do not think we 221 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 2: should be as involved internationally as we were ten twenty 222 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 2: years ago. I do not think we should be involved 223 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 2: in Ukraine as much as we are right now. 224 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: Still I wish that we would be. I wish that 225 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: war would. 226 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 2: Be over with, and god knows, Donald Trump has done 227 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 2: everything possible to end it. 228 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: He's done absolutely everything to. 229 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 2: Get Vladimir Putin and Zelensky to get to the table 230 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 2: and talk. And there's been recent developments in the last 231 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 2: twenty four hours that are not so good. 232 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 1: You know, a. 233 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 2: Drone, a Polish drone shot down, which is not a 234 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 2: good sign. 235 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 1: That's you know, a. 236 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 2: NATO ally having exchanged, but it's a drone. You know, 237 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: a life being lost, No, not necessarily, but a shot 238 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 2: was fired, so somebody's life could have been lost. It 239 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 2: gets a little dicey. Little things like that can blow 240 00:13:56,160 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 2: up quickly. But I as an older American these days, 241 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 2: you know, I'm still gen X, but as somebody who 242 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 2: has been around the block and seen both successes that 243 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 2: our country has had and failures that our country has had, 244 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 2: I want a country that is strong in a national defense, 245 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 2: that is strong, but that only uses the military as 246 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 2: a last resort, not in some kind of like spreading 247 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 2: of democracy or adventurism overseas. 248 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 3: No. 249 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 2: And you know who led that change in mindset. You 250 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 2: know who carried the torch and carried the flag for 251 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 2: that change. 252 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: It was Donald Trump. 253 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 2: He came on the scene in twenty fifteen as a 254 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 2: presidential candidate, I mean, and started questioning bad decisions that 255 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: the military has made and our leaders at the top 256 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: have made. It was a hard pital swallow for a 257 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 2: lot of people, myself included. But the more he talked, 258 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 2: the more I listened. I said, you know, maybe. 259 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: He's not wrong here. 260 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 2: Maybe some of these generals with three and four stars 261 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 2: on their collar, these careerists who salivate at the idea 262 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 2: of us being involved in conflicts, who many of them 263 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 2: want to immediately end their military career so that they 264 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 2: can sit on defense contractor boards where they make ten 265 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 2: times what they're making as a army general. And so 266 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: maybe their motives are not as pristine and pure as 267 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 2: we might think. That kind of thing, you know, gets 268 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 2: in your brain and you start thinking about it and 269 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 2: then you can take off the rose colored glasses and 270 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 2: make clear, lucid decisions about who and what politicians you 271 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 2: support and which ones you don't. Anyway, I still have 272 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 2: and maintain the belief that a country is better off 273 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 2: off with more Republicans in office than Democrats. And we're 274 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 2: gonna later on this hour get into that with Kerry 275 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 2: Pickett about the predictions and changes that are happening as 276 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 2: we speak in many legislatures, as far as maps go 277 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 2: with that, what changes might occur in the next two years. 278 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz Today. I am Mike Coolidge filling 279 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 2: in for Tony Katz. 280 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. 281 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 2: No, do not take any of those things. Great song 282 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 2: if you're on a crew team. I think it actually 283 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 2: has some stroke stroke chance in this Welcome back to 284 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 2: Tony Katz Today. I am Mike Coolidge filling in for 285 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 2: Tony Katz. Coolidge is spelled with the K K L 286 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: I DGE. You can find me on X and I'll 287 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 2: do what I did earlier in there if you follow 288 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 2: me on. 289 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: X right now. 290 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 2: This is a special deal only for Tony Katz Today listeners. 291 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: I will follow you back. 292 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't follow everyone, but if you follow me 293 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 2: right now on X K O O L I d 294 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 2: G E, I will follow you back. Also, obviously you 295 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 2: follow Tony Katz, who is Tony k A t Z. 296 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 2: Everyone knows how to spelled Tony cats and Tony katz 297 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 2: dot com is the web site. One of the things 298 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 2: I love about radio is it was the precursor to 299 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 2: the town hall, the national town hall that Twitter became 300 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 2: and then that is now x And thank god that 301 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: Elon Musk bought Twitter because it actually is a free 302 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:47,479 Speaker 2: speech outlet for the world. Really, so many news stories 303 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 2: we would not know about, so many opinions we had 304 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 2: not known about had it continued on the path it 305 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 2: was on. But just a real quick snapshot, as we 306 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 2: only have a minute or so left here of some 307 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 2: comments about the biggest story in the country right now 308 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 2: and really the world, is the murder of Arenas Rutsky 309 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 2: Christopher Rufo. We need more police, more prisons, and more asylums. 310 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 2: And yes, we can arrest our way out of the 311 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: psychotic criminals murdering people in the streets problem. That's a 312 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 2: response to the mayor of Charlotte who said we can't 313 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 2: arrest our way out of this. 314 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: Oh yes, we can. 315 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 2: Shoe on X. The New York Times finally covers the story, 316 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 2: and it's about the people covering it. The headline the 317 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 2: first story that appeared in The New York Times about this, 318 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 2: the headline was a gruesome murder in North Carolina ignites 319 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 2: a firestorm on the right. Yes, you see, this is 320 00:18:53,520 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 2: a conservative story. Fisher can't on X. It's civilization versus barbarism. 321 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 2: That's the left right divide. Now, that is so true. 322 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 2: It is civilization versus barbarism. Which side are you on? 323 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 2: This is my Coolidge in for Tony Kats on Tony 324 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 2: Katz Today, on the other side of it. Former Michael 325 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 2: Coolidge Show regular and current Tony Kats Today regular Carry 326 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 2: Picket from the Washington Times. Don't go anywhere. We're back 327 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 2: on Tony Katz Today. I am not Tony Kats. I 328 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 2: am Mike Coolidge spelled with a K. And our next 329 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 2: guest also spells her name with a kay. It's just 330 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 2: her first name, Carrie Picket. Welcome back on to the radio, Kerry. 331 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 3: Hey, thanks for having me, Mike. 332 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 2: Yes, and welcome back onto two Tony Kats Today because 333 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 2: I know you go on Tony Kats Today. 334 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: Pretty. 335 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 2: I mean, you've been on Tony Katz's show before, right 336 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 2: many times? 337 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 3: Sure, Sure, Tony and I go way. 338 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 2: Back, Yeah, probably similar to you and I gosh back 339 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 2: in the tea party era of the early to twenty tens. 340 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 2: I can't believe or we're the second half of the 341 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 2: of this decade. Now. It's been crazy. It's been a crazy, 342 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 2: uh crazy crazy twenty years of politics. But I wanted 343 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 2: to first because we spent a lot of this show 344 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 2: talking obviously about the biggest story in the country right now, 345 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 2: the Arenas Routski murder and the policies that could be 346 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 2: enacted to stop something like this from happening again, or 347 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 2: maybe prevent a terrible human being like the one that 348 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 2: murdered her, being able to do this sort of thing 349 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 2: to other people. We have a terrible law in Illinois, 350 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 2: where I happen to make my home, called the Safety Act. 351 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 2: That is one of the hallmarks of it is no 352 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 2: cash bail. Well, before I get into the redistricting story 353 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 2: that I know, is I mean it is going to 354 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 2: result in hopefully better policies coming out of Washington. Is 355 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 2: this no cash bail a possible national law that New 356 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 2: York's at least Stephanic is hoping to push through. 357 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: Can you tell us about that? 358 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 3: Sure? So at least Aphonic has introduced for disflation in 359 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 3: the House to end cashless bail not just in the 360 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 3: district of Columbia, but all over the country. Now, this 361 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 3: bill was introduced Monday, and what it does is just 362 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 3: back up President Trump's executive order that essentially tells states 363 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 3: as well as municipalities all over the country that if 364 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 3: you have cash less bail or some sort of form 365 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 3: of shall we say, reduced bail to the point where, 366 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 3: you know, because there's only four U states in the 367 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 3: country where there's no cash less bail, and then there's 368 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 3: like a sort of like bail reform in some states, 369 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 3: and there's and they kind of you know, chipped away 370 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 3: at like bail in other states, so they sort of 371 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 3: played around with it. But but if you have some 372 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 3: sort of form of that, uh, they're they're going to 373 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 3: take away you're you're you're a federal funding in some way, 374 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 3: shape or form. So basically that's the the gist of it. 375 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, Chanstic, right exactly. 376 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 3: Now it's up. Now, this isn't for like things like jaywalking. 377 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 3: This is if people commit crimes such as murder, rate, 378 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 3: sexual assault, carjacking, robbery, you know, and assault plus looting, vandalism, 379 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 3: destruction of property, riding or inciting to ride, or fleeing 380 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 3: from a law enforcement officer. So you know, people won't 381 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 3: have to worry about saying, oh, well, what if I, 382 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 3: you know, just did something stupid. You know, Okay, we're 383 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 3: not talking about crimes like that. We're talking about things 384 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 3: like what everyone's talking about with this poor Ukrainian woman 385 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 3: who was stabbed togeth over on the Charlotte, North Carolina 386 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 3: light rail. All right, it's things like that. We're talking 387 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 3: about violent repeat offenders who should not be let out. 388 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 3: And this is this is something that needs to be 389 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 3: looked at all over the country. And people think, well, 390 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 3: it's just the States. Now we're talking about small municipalities 391 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 3: that people tend to not see. It's municipalities that go 392 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 3: beneath the radar. 393 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 2: Mike, yeah, yeah, And it's I think this whole sort 394 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 2: of movement. I don't know if New York City was 395 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 2: the first one to do it, but they obviously, being 396 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 2: the biggest city in the country, uh, got the most 397 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 2: media coverage about it, and UH no indication that it 398 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 2: that it worked and was and was good. But are 399 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 2: in are the geniuses that that run the state government 400 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 2: here in Illinois decided to pass a law, the Safety Act, 401 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 2: that has not led to uh, you know, reductions in crime. 402 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 2: It has led to people being led out after they 403 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 2: allegedly committed a crime and not being you know, incarcerated 404 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 2: in pre child confinement where they, because they're free and 405 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 2: didn't have to post bail or anything, can commit more 406 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 2: crimes before they're eventual trial. And so many of these 407 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 2: people have been convicted of numerous convicted not just the 408 00:24:55,400 --> 00:25:00,120 Speaker 2: rest of but convicted of numerous crimes. So, you know, 409 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 2: this might or might not be constitutional. This this law, 410 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 2: this at least steffonic law. I mean, let's just assume 411 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,719 Speaker 2: that it passes and it gets signed into law by 412 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 2: President Trump. I'm saying, but and you know, let's assume 413 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 2: it's constitutional, or let's say it doesn't get all the 414 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 2: way through because there's not enough votes in the Senator whatever. 415 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 2: Moving on to the redistricting story that some people are following. 416 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 2: The big you know thing in uh was it Texas 417 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 2: where some of the legislators didn't want to vote and 418 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 2: do their job, so they fled the states so they 419 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 2: wouldn't have a quorum. And then we'll give our reader 420 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 2: or our readers, give your readers and listeners a little 421 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 2: recap of the states that are in the process of 422 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 2: changing their laws for redistricting, and also the reaction that 423 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 2: certain factions of Congress are getting, you know, belly aching 424 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 2: about in Washington, d C. Like, for example, the Congressional 425 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 2: liber Black Caucus, which has a problem with a lot 426 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 2: of this stuff going on. 427 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 3: Okay, so you have a Texas which already passed their 428 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 3: redrawn map and that gave Texas five more favorable seats 429 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 3: towards the Republicans. This angered, of course, Democrats, so they 430 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 3: went over to Gavin Newsom to have the Democrats put 431 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 3: out a map that was way more favorable for Democrats 432 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 3: that has not been finalized, that has not been approved. 433 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 3: But what they what they're doing though, is that they're 434 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 3: having a special election to bring back, or rather to 435 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 3: get rid of their independent Commission, because they're independent commission 436 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 3: by law needs to approve any sort of redraw And 437 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 3: they're saying, no, no, no, we were just getting rid of 438 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 3: this independent commission, just temporarily until I think it's like 439 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 3: twenty thirty and then we'll bring it back, but the 440 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 3: voters have to decide on that in a special election. 441 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 3: We'll see if that actually happened. So nothing's happening yet 442 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 3: in California, but we'll see how that goes down. But 443 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 3: they're trying to change the map in California to off 444 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 3: that what happened in Texas. That being said, if that 445 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 3: happens in California, they're going to have to deal with 446 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 3: what just happened in Missouri with the GOP controlled legislature there, 447 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 3: which just added one extra seat for Republicans and or 448 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 3: favorable towards Republicans and essentially eliminated Emmanuel Kleaver's seat. He's 449 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 3: a Democrat, he is a Congressional Black Caucus Democrat. And 450 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 3: you had the CBC just had a big presser yesterday 451 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 3: and they were very upset. They were saying, all this 452 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 3: redistricting is just trying to lower their ranks out on 453 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 3: Capitol Hill, and they were saying that this idea that 454 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 3: Republicans are underrepresented in Congress is just quote unquote hogwash, 455 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 3: because what happened ultimately, as you may or may not 456 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 3: have heard, is that you have a lot of blue 457 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 3: states which have let's say, maybe forty percent Republicans that 458 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 3: are that are that are registered Republicans, but yet they 459 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 3: have maybe zero Republicans in Congress representing them or maybe 460 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 3: two or three Republicans representing them. So like in Massachusetts, Yeah. 461 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:41,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, Massachusetts has zero Republicans. And Illinois, which is you know, 462 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 2: probably about forty five percent in some cases higher than 463 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 2: that depending on how you slice it. Forty five to 464 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 2: maybe forty six percent of Illinoisans are Republican. We have 465 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 2: three congressmen out of seventeen and with zero swing districts 466 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 2: basically I mean some that are borderlined, but no, the 467 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 2: Democrats drew them specifically to Jerry manner them to the left. 468 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 2: And then of course you mentioned the Malaia Massachusetts. All 469 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 2: of New England I think has like two Republicans or 470 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 2: something exactly. 471 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 3: I pointed that out to the Congressional Black Caucus members 472 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 3: and you had Congressman Troy Carter of Louisiana. He called 473 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 3: that hogwash. That is nonsense. The Republicans are just being 474 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 3: sour grapes. That is wrong data. But what they don't 475 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 3: seem to see here is that, Okay, well, you're saying 476 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 3: that that black lawmakers are underrepresented in Congress. Black lawmakers 477 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 3: represented about twelve percent of Congress. There's about sixty seven 478 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 3: lawmakers who are Democrats in Congress. Black Americans represent about 479 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 3: fourteen percent of the country. Okay, but here is what's interesting. 480 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 3: You have about Black Republicans on Capitol Hill represent about 481 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 3: less than one percent in Congress. 482 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: But there's the a Pew research tells. 483 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 3: Us that there's about twelve there's about maybe twelve percent 484 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,959 Speaker 3: of black Republicans in the country. So black Republicans are 485 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 3: actually underrepresented on Capitol Hill. Yeah, completely, well yes, but yeah, yeah, 486 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 3: the black wallmakers are are under represented on Capitol Hill, 487 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 3: but it's Black Republicans that are underrepresented. 488 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great way to put it. 489 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 2: Well, we all only got about a minute left here, 490 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 2: Tony katz is three hours apparently are shorter than. 491 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: My three hours carry. 492 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 2: I don't know why, but the how do you see 493 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 2: this playing out as far as like California for example. 494 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 2: I know they're trying to redistrict, but isn't the road 495 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 2: to them redistricting a lot higher because they have to 496 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 2: get it on a ballot, which will require them to 497 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 2: get like tons you know, seven figures and signatures or 498 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 2: something like that. Do you see California actually changing their 499 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 2: congressional districts before twenty twenty six. I mean, they have a. 500 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 3: Higher bar, and they're going to have a very tough 501 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 3: time getting it onto the ballot by the twenty twenty 502 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 3: six mid terms. So they're going to have a very 503 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 3: very tough time. And mind you, they're going to have 504 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 3: even a rougher time by twenty thirty when the new 505 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 3: census comes out. So all this stuff we're talking about 506 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 3: right now is pretty much all the blowback that happened 507 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 3: after the twenty twenty census because Republicans felt that they 508 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 3: were undercounted during the right after the Biden Census Bureau 509 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 3: kind of undercounted places like Florida for example. 510 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 2: By the way, I know we're almost out of time, 511 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 2: but do you make your home in New York City 512 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 2: or in Washington d C? 513 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 3: Washington d C? 514 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: Okay? 515 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 2: Because I was going to ask about Mandannie and who 516 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 2: would be worse as a mayor Brandon Johnson in Chicago. Well, yeah, 517 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 2: so you don't have it in one word, who would 518 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 2: you rather have as mayor? Who's who's worse, Mandannie or 519 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 2: Brandon Johnson in Chicago. 520 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 3: Let's just say I'm gonna say chocolate Okay. 521 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 2: The Chocolate City or any way, that was New Orleans 522 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 2: based on Mayor Nagan. He called it that himself. That's 523 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 2: what he That's what he called it, all right, Kerry Pickett, 524 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 2: thank you so much for joining us from the Washington Times. 525 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 2: We'll be right back on Tony Katz today. This is 526 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 2: Mike Coolidge. 527 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: Stay with us. 528 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 2: Okay, We're back on Tony Kats today. I'm Mike Coolidge 529 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 2: filling in for Tony and we have some breaking news here. 530 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: This is not a joke, this is not. 531 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 2: This is for real, uh and I'm absorbing this in 532 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 2: real time on X as we speak. 533 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: But Charlie Kirk. 534 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 2: Turning point US says, Charlie Kirk has been shot and 535 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 2: there's video footage of him. This is at Utah Valley University. 536 00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 2: There's no indication that he uh is no longer with us. 537 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 2: He's being stabilized, is what we're reading online. Again, I'm 538 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 2: just reading what I'm seeing on X. I've seen the 539 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 2: video of him being shot, and he definitely was shot. 540 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 2: This isn't I have no problem saying that as somebody 541 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 2: who's seen and fired weapons before and knows what they 542 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 2: sound like and knows what it looks like when someone 543 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 2: is hitting with a bullet. 544 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: He was definitely. 545 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 2: Shot, and the only thing I can determine is whether 546 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 2: he was shot in the neck or in the chest. 547 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 2: But you're gonna see this footage on AX if you 548 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 2: haven't already. There's a whole crowd dispersing. He's sitting under 549 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 2: the tent, you know where he does these you know, 550 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 2: challenge me, debates, and he It just shows him with 551 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 2: a microphone and then all of a sudden, the snap, 552 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 2: which is a bullet being shot, and then you can 553 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 2: see it, you know, shake his body and him kind. 554 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: Of fall to the ground. 555 00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 2: I beg you to please pray for Charlie Kirk, everyone 556 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 2: who knows him, everyone who doesn't know him. There obviously 557 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 2: is never, in any circumstance a reason why you would 558 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 2: kill an unarmed, innocent human being who is posing no 559 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 2: threat to anyone. And this is what occurred, clearly, And 560 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 2: please pray that he makes a recovery. This is going 561 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,760 Speaker 2: to become a national news story. I'm sure it is already. 562 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 2: I'm sure I don't have my TV on in front 563 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 2: of me. 564 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: I've just got the. 565 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 2: Internet here on two different screens, but it's kind of 566 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 2: obviously been talked about a lot. I've met Charlie Kirk 567 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 2: a number of times. He's a great human being, he's 568 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 2: a great American. He has talked about moving this country 569 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 2: in the right direction. Very few people have have have 570 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 2: done it more than him and stronger than him. And 571 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 2: please pray for him. Please pray for him and his family. 572 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 2: He's married with children. Pray for Charlie Kirk. This has 573 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 2: been the Tony Kats Today Show, and I am Mike 574 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 2: Coolidge Tony. 575 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow.