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Speaker 2: And they don't like us and we don't like them.

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Speaker 3: So yesterday one of Governor Braun's people, representative no name him, spokespeople.

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Speaker 2: Don't ever email.

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Speaker 1: This show you got something to say, you are your delusional,

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Speaker 3: Well, that's what I sent him. I said, would the

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Speaker 2: Thanks, Griffin.

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Speaker 1: You know, we totally want to carry the water for

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Speaker 1: We totally didn't get completely hosed and made to look

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Speaker 2: But if if he has the bollular.

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Speaker 2: That would be so amazing, Casey.

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Speaker 3: Right with the snack with the staff. Yeah, yeah, expiring.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to Kettle and Casey. It is ninety three WYBC.

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Speaker 1: This is very very interesting. So in the most recent election,

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Speaker 1: Look, we don't politically, we don't a lot of things,

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Speaker 1: They have in their mind that there's this big conspiracy

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Speaker 3: There, well, there's subservient and there's also writing coattails. No,

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Speaker 1: Right right, right right, so, but the reality on the ground,

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Speaker 1: Robin Kendall there, there's finally been a guy who posted

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Speaker 2: We posted it for you to see.

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Speaker 1: That's what this Massachusetts boogeyman is because we said, Andrew Ireland,

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Speaker 1: You've seen it. You can see it at Robin Kendall.

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Speaker 1: It's a totally gerrymandered district that quote unquote Trump won

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Speaker 1: in twenty four But it's everything they claimed a bitch about,

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Speaker 1: Trump, They wouldn't he wouldn't be on the ballot this time.

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Speaker 1: But you found a district that might be competitive. That's

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Speaker 1: So nationwide, like, how many votes were cast in favor

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Speaker 2: In the House. How many votes should Republicans beginning in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like the like they already have more seats than

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Speaker 1: First of all, we act like Democrats, the only people

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean democratic presentation.

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Speaker 1: Democrats have won forty seven point two percent of the

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Speaker 1: And this is where it's so frustrating, which is you

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Speaker 1: There always has to be someone to blame. It always

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Speaker 1: The Republicans have been doing this. It is Trump, but

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Speaker 1: Obama was president. Just get us, the House will repeal Obamacare.

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Speaker 1: Will repeal Obambacer they get the Senate, Oh, we just

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Speaker 1: And they got all of those things, and each time

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Speaker 1: There's always somebody else to blame. They never look in

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Speaker 3: Their rush to do this is because of midterms.

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Speaker 1: Sure, they can't win the votes. They can't win by

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Speaker 1: We'll just change the maps, which means they'll never get

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Speaker 3: And then are they going to change them again after midterms?

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Speaker 1: Well, sure they're going to have to because once they

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Speaker 2: That's the crazy thing about all this.

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Speaker 1: In a couple of years, they'll go right back. That

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Speaker 3: Out that somebody did create a map.

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Speaker 1: They got maybe one district that went for Trump but

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Speaker 2: But that's the best they could do.

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Speaker 1: twenty four.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to Kendall and Casey, it is ninety three WIBC. Okay,

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Speaker 3: So you made.

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Speaker 1: An interesting point a few minutes ago, and I want

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Speaker 1: to delve into this because I just said, not even

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Speaker 1: dawned on me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that is the media.

447
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Speaker 1: The liberals are having an aneurysm over the fact that

448
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Speaker 1: some people might have to get off their ass and

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Speaker 1: go to work because these SNAP benefits.

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Speaker 2: Are expiring November first, as of the government shut down. Now,

451
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Speaker 2: isn't amazing.

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Speaker 1: They're far more up in arms or the SNAP benefits

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Speaker 1: expiring than the military people.

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Speaker 3: Or the who aren't collecting getting getting paid. Right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but look, this is utterly ridiculous. So what is

456
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Speaker 1: the number of people on the SNAP benefits?

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Speaker 3: They say forty two million recipients across twenty two million

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Speaker 3: households are going to lose benefits starting November.

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Speaker 1: First, forty two million people in a country of three

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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty five or forty million or whatever the

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Speaker 1: number is. Now, so I'm going to do a little

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Speaker 1: quick public school math here, if you'll indulge me. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So if you took forty two and you divide it

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Speaker 1: by three, let's say three thirty five, that's almost thirteen

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Speaker 1: percent of our population is on government assistance.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Look, I am not disputing that there are people who

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Speaker 1: need help in this country. I'm not disputing there are

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Speaker 1: people who have disabilities that prohibit them from working, or

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Speaker 1: that it causes you know, family members to have to

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Speaker 1: take care of them so they can work. I'm not

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Speaker 1: disputing that. But do we believed that that is thirteen

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Speaker 1: percent of our population? Do we really believe that thirteen

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Speaker 1: percent of our population is so disabled that they can't

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Speaker 1: you know, take care of themselves or they don't have

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Speaker 1: family members who can you know, take care of themselves

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Speaker 1: in some capacity. Look, you know, we talk about our

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Speaker 1: sweet friend Michael, who we love, who is cerebral palsy,

479
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Speaker 1: who's our megafan.

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Speaker 2: We love you, Michael. We know you're listening today, listens

481
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Speaker 2: every day.

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Speaker 1: We love Michael. He made us these fabulous paintings. We

483
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Speaker 1: posted the picture of One of the things Michael can

484
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Speaker 1: still do and do very well, is he can paint

485
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Speaker 1: pictures with his hands, and he made us these incredible pictures.

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Speaker 1: It sits right on the It sits right on the

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Speaker 1: on my desk, right when I get into my office. Now,

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Speaker 1: it's great people like him, Absolutely, they have no ability

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Speaker 1: to provide for themselves. They his parents have to help

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Speaker 1: take care of him, and I understand that, but there's

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Speaker 1: a let's face it, we would be totally not even

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Speaker 1: kidding ourselves if we said that there are not a

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Speaker 1: lot of people in this country who are are capable

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Speaker 1: of taking care of themselves at least in some capacity,

495
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Speaker 1: and are simply able to not do that because of

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Speaker 1: the how we have exploded government benefits, especially during COVID

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Speaker 1: and afterwards.

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Speaker 3: So in May of this year, seven point eight billion

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Speaker 3: in benefits were distributed. The average household benefit was three

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Speaker 3: hundred and fifty one dollars and twenty eight cents. Now,

501
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Speaker 3: if you're how much, what was the number? Three hundred

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Speaker 3: and fifty one dollars twenty eight cents.

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Speaker 2: And that's monthly, yes, Okay.

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Speaker 3: A four person household with a fifteen hundred dollars net

505
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Speaker 3: income would receive about five hundred and fifty four dollars

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Speaker 3: a month.

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Speaker 1: So one of the things you mentioned, which is fascinating

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Speaker 1: because of course we saw this during COVID. People go

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Speaker 1: insane during times of crisis and they can't.

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Speaker 3: Supporting the toilet paper.

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Speaker 1: For an example, possibly by the way, I still have

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Speaker 1: you'll love this sweet amazing Terry Stacey. When the COVID

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Speaker 1: thing happens, she somehow got toilet paper. So the toilet

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Speaker 1: this will You've worked in many big offices. The toilet

515
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Speaker 1: paper they had here was not great, very thin. It's

516
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Speaker 1: the Econo toilet paper, and she somehow got a whole

517
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Speaker 1: bunch of it, and she was like, hey, here do

518
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Speaker 1: you want this? And I was like, well, hey, in

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Speaker 1: case of emergency or whatever, cause you don't know how

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Speaker 1: long people are gonna be insane, like I'll keep it.

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Speaker 1: And I've kept that giant. It's not a role like

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Speaker 1: it's rolled up like you get at the store. It's

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Speaker 1: like the you know, like you see it a toilet

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Speaker 1: at a public restroom. I've kept that as a COVID

525
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Speaker 1: souvenir for five and a half going on six years

526
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Speaker 1: now as a reminder of how ridiculous COVID actually gotten

527
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Speaker 1: so everywhere. You know, I still have it in my

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Speaker 1: house as a reminder of how ridiculous it is. But

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Speaker 1: you'd made a good point, which is during COVID for

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Speaker 1: the most part, I'd like, she was my girlfriend at

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Speaker 1: the time, but I did not let my wife for

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Speaker 1: the most part go to the store. And now occasionally

533
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Speaker 1: she had to. But it was like, people are insane,

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Speaker 1: people are nuts. I'm going to go deal with this,

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Speaker 1: you know, so that you have to do. And you

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Speaker 1: made a good point. We may see some of the

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Speaker 1: again if these people, these these people who don't want

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Speaker 1: decerately don't want to work, aren't able to get these benefits,

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Speaker 1: because it's never the good people, the decent people, people

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Speaker 1: deserve it, who do these sorts of things. For the

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Speaker 1: most part, it's always the people who believe they're entitled

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Speaker 1: to something and they're mad it's going to be taken

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Speaker 1: away from them.

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Speaker 2: You may run the risk of seeing it again.

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Speaker 3: Well, I've seen more and more people on social media

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Speaker 3: saying that you know, I'm still going to go to

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Speaker 3: the grocery store. I'm still going to get my food

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Speaker 3: and supplies, and you're not going to stop me even

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Speaker 3: if I don't have my benefits anymore, meaning they're just

550
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Speaker 3: going to go in and take it.

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Speaker 1: Well, they've been rewarded in a lot of places in

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Speaker 1: these major cities that we've seen where people just go

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Speaker 1: in and steal stuff, and the drug stores or whatever

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Speaker 1: just let them go.

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Speaker 2: Now. You made a good point.

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Speaker 3: Though.

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Speaker 2: Your daughter lives in Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you've like sent your husband on a mission

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Speaker 1: out there to say, Jim, you have to go to

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Speaker 1: the store stock up for her because you don't want

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Speaker 1: her going to the store.

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Speaker 3: Well, I want to make sure that she's safe. Hopefully

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Speaker 3: the government will reopen back up up and this won't

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Speaker 3: be an issue. But I told him he's going to

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Speaker 3: be going there, and I said, your job while you

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Speaker 3: go there is to make sure that she is loaded

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Speaker 3: up on groceries, gas, and her prescriptions so that I

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Speaker 3: don't have to worry about it. Now. One thing that

569
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Speaker 3: you have to consider about this message to him is

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Speaker 3: I was thinking of this because of this guy and

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Speaker 3: what he had to say.

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Speaker 4: Bro is waiting in the dispensary parking lot asking people

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Speaker 4: if they have any spare roaches. I don't think y'all

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Speaker 4: understand the crash out levels is about to go through

575
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Speaker 4: the roof. No food stamps equals no to less weed money,

576
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Speaker 4: like you'll about to have people out here angry and sober.

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Speaker 4: That's a diabolical combination because the food money got to

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Speaker 4: come out of some budget, and that's the first one

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Speaker 4: it usually comes from.

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Speaker 2: All I'm saying is just be.

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Speaker 4: Nicer to people in these coming days, because that blunt

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Speaker 4: and those snacks may have been the only thing stopping

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Speaker 4: your co from put you first in line for meet

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Speaker 4: and greet with God Almighty.

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Speaker 3: So in Baltimore, marijuana is legal and you can smell

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Speaker 3: it everywhere. And when I saw that video, I thought, Okay,

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Speaker 3: if that's true and people are going to be a

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Speaker 3: little upset angry, as he put it, I want to

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Speaker 3: make sure my kid is safe.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's probably accurate, but it's also pathetic. I think

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Speaker 1: about that's where we're at as a society, and one

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Speaker 1: of the things that we've refused to address is that

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Speaker 1: our society collectively, like I'm not even talking from like

594
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Speaker 1: a moral stand but I'm talking just from a structural standpoint,

595
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: is so broken that you're going to see some of

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Speaker 1: these things on full display again. We should be having

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Speaker 1: a conversation why is thirteen percent of our population on

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Speaker 1: some sort of government assistance? But we're not having that conversation.

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Speaker 1: The conversation isn't about, which is what a government shutdown

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Speaker 1: should be about.

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Speaker 2: It should be like, this is ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: There's no reason for thirteen percent of the population to

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Speaker 1: be on government assistance.

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Speaker 2: Why are we fighting for that?

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Speaker 1: No, they're They're like, oh, everybody's going back on once

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Speaker 1: we reopen the government, because all we did was fund

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Speaker 1: the bidens spending levels. And the Republicans. My dad and

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Speaker 1: I were talking about this yesterday when we were driving home,

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Speaker 1: and I said, you know, one of the things that

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Speaker 1: the Republicans are up against, which is fascinating, is the

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Speaker 1: greatest thing they have at their disposal they can't use

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Speaker 1: because they'd have to admit to their base what they are,

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Speaker 1: which is, hey, Democrats, all we're doing is funding Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden's government. But they can't do it because if they

615
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Speaker 1: say it out loud, they have to admit that they've

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Speaker 1: lied to their base.

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Speaker 2: Again, which is that what they do all the time.

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Speaker 1: And so They're really stuck between a rock and a

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Speaker 1: hard place because the greatest weapon at their disposal they

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Speaker 1: can't use. Our society, our government structurally is so broken.

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Speaker 1: We are cratering towards insolvency. This stuff is going to

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Speaker 1: start happening more and more frequently, and all we're talking

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Speaker 1: about doing is ways to keep it going or make

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Speaker 1: it worse.

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Speaker 3: Well, here's something to consider as you're talking about insolvency.

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Speaker 3: Snap cost one hundred three billion dollars last year. How

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Speaker 3: much one hundred point three billion dollars? Yeez, But that's

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Speaker 3: less than two percent of the federal budget.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you're running your interest is like approaching

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Speaker 1: a trillion dollars annually.

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Speaker 2: What we pay like out the window.

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Speaker 1: Think about when you pay your mortgage, right, And I

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Speaker 1: got the OCD, So this really bothers me that when

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Speaker 1: I pay my mortgage, I hate that such a large

635
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Speaker 1: portion of it goes to nothing, like it goes to

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Speaker 1: the bank right or to the lender. And that really

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Speaker 1: bothers me. I'm like, I'm just throwing this into the abyss, right.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't do anything to help me. It just helps

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Speaker 1: some you know, large corporation that's managing my loan. And

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Speaker 1: that's essentially what we're doing because our spending has been

641
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Speaker 1: so irresponsible.

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Speaker 2: Think about how many.

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Speaker 1: People a trillion dollar could feed, how many military members

644
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Speaker 1: it could pay, and we're just lighting it on fire

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Speaker 1: because we won't get.

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Speaker 2: Our spending in this country under it's never going to stop.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just another arrow to the dysfunction that is

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Speaker 3: happening in DC. Look at the government shutdown that's going on.

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Speaker 2: All right, what are we doing next? What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Well, we could talk about Donald Trump saying that he

651
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Speaker 3: had an MRI oh at Walter Reed Medical Center while

652
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Speaker 3: he was there. That was kind of news to ever

653
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Speaker 3: Katny or or Brian Kelly got fired from LSU.

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Speaker 2: Well, we got to take a victory lap on that

655
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Speaker 2: as Notre dame fans, don't we?

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Speaker 3: I think so? It is, Kennelly Casey, It's ninety three WYBC.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, this.

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Speaker 1: We've got a lot of important stuff going on in

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Speaker 1: the world right now and here in Indiana. But this

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Speaker 1: next story has my undivided attention. I'm so enthralled by this.

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Speaker 1: Tell me all about it.

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Speaker 3: So we'll talk about Trump's MRI and Brian Kelly later

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Speaker 3: I mentioned this and you're like, oh wait what.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then this is great. It's Kelly Casey, Jean

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Speaker 1: Rob that's Casey. Okay, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Single people are paying two hundred dollars each to hold

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Speaker 3: each other in dark rooms.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry what you heard me?

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Speaker 3: Single people they're paying two hundred dollars to hold each

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Speaker 3: other in dark rooms. So they've got like these dimly

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Speaker 3: lit rooms with candles around and red cushion chairs arranged

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Speaker 3: in pairs, and people strangers who are single, they're supposed

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Speaker 3: to be single anyway, walk in and the whole point

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Speaker 3: is to just go hold someone. And they're paying. It's

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Speaker 3: like a cover charge. That's what they're doing.

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Speaker 2: Okay, iFeel like I've missed a step here.

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Speaker 3: It's called the Fields and it started at Columbia University,

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Speaker 3: where's it's now got nationwide. It's the nationwide business franchise

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Speaker 3: events held in cities across the United States. And the

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Speaker 3: person who created it, Alfie Hoffman, says that they believe

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Speaker 3: that modern dating is broken due to the macro level

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Speaker 3: forces like capitalism, technology, and pop culture. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'm not disputing that.

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Speaker 1: I still don't understand where the I must pay to

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Speaker 1: go into a dark room and hold a stranger comes in.

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Speaker 3: There's two different levels by the way, in pricing, Oh,

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Speaker 3: you can pay level one. You can pay between ninety

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Speaker 3: and one hundred dollars. You don't take a survey and

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Speaker 3: you don't get personalized matching, or you can up it

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Speaker 3: to two hundred dollars and that includes a pre event

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Speaker 3: survey to match with participants based on emotional intelligence and

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Speaker 3: spiritual atonement.

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Speaker 2: So it's like a dating gap but in person.

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Speaker 3: But it's not really dating. It's just to cuddle.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't get to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Well, you can if you want.

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Speaker 2: Why would I need to connect with you if I

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Speaker 2: can't talk to you?

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Speaker 3: Because you want to be held, You want some physical touch.

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Speaker 3: Attendees have shared feelings like I feel seen and I'm

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Speaker 3: more at ease in my body and I was warmly renewed.

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Speaker 1: Wait, I feel like I missed a step here. Now

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Speaker 1: let me understand, because I'm not I'm not. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I guess I'm being judgy. But so you pay money,

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Speaker 1: you go to this dark room. Correct, you find a stranger.

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Speaker 1: Uh huh, you cuddle with them?

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Speaker 5: Correct, you got it?

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Speaker 2: But why would you pay the money?

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Speaker 3: What you like, because if you're do you know.

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Speaker 1: How many drinks one hundred dollars could buy? I could

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Speaker 1: find someone you could.

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Speaker 3: Get more than a hug.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's what I'm.

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Speaker 1: Saying, right, I mean, I mean I feel like we're

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Speaker 1: really you're really selling yourself short. If you're I mean

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Speaker 1: one hundred dollars, that's you can do a lot of

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Speaker 1: damage with one hundred dollars.

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Speaker 3: Okay. The fields, which is what this place is called.

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Speaker 3: They say it's less about finding the one and more

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Speaker 3: about learning tools for deeper connection.

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Speaker 1: Aren't there like forum boards or the dating app? They

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Speaker 1: charge for these dating apps? Is it costs money to

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Speaker 1: be on them?

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Speaker 5: They're usually free?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: It is?

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Speaker 5: It is something The popular ones are free.

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Speaker 2: How do they make money? They sell ads? Or something like?

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Speaker 2: How does the dating app make money?

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Speaker 5: Can pay for a premium account, and I think you

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Speaker 5: get access to certain things like different filters like LinkedIn.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, but are there ads on these dating

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Speaker 1: sites like brought to you by sometimes Oca Cola or yeah,

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Speaker 1: occasionally you'll get They gotta make money somehow, product placement.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I was thinking some other things, but this

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Speaker 1: is a Family Program, and I didn't want to things

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Speaker 1: that were popping into my head. I didn't want to

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Speaker 1: throw out there. I'll tell you off the air once

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Speaker 1: we get to the commercial break, well, that would be

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Speaker 1: a good product placement. Uh, You're like, I can't wait

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Speaker 1: to get away from this guy because you've al almost

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Speaker 1: made it four years. I know you're closing in on

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Speaker 1: four years.

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Speaker 3: The season three finale of Indianapolis is a banger.

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Speaker 1: I just I don't understand why people are paying for this.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't get what you're getting. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying this would be okay, but

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Speaker 1: your name is supposed to be getting handsy with the person,

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Speaker 1: Like it's just you're supposed to like.

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Speaker 3: Just just go and be held.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Just it's like a Meloncamp song.

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Speaker 1: Everyone needs a hand to hold onto this Mellon Camp, right.

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Speaker 3: I wonder if there's stipulation, is any what you can

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Speaker 3: hold strong? Like it's just just a long embrace, a

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Speaker 3: long hug.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm asking you. Have you never heard

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Speaker 1: of this, Kevin? What is the age range of these people?

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Speaker 1: Does it say is there a target?

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Speaker 3: Is there are I imagine it's gen z ish eighteen

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Speaker 3: thirty four people who aren't going out anymore to meet people.

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Speaker 1: So, keV, would you be if we are there any

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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis?

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Speaker 3: Does it say no, not yet, keV. If they it'll come.

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Speaker 1: If they have one here? In case you never willing

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Speaker 1: to pay the fee? Would you would you go to

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Speaker 1: this for us for the show?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I'd probably stroll down there. Yeah, I

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Speaker 5: mean you can shift.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean you can't just stroll down. You have

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Speaker 1: to go in and be a part of the we want.

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Speaker 3: The whole experience. You probably have to sign some sort

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Speaker 3: of waiver that you can't record your experience.

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Speaker 5: You can't talk about it.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no, you can talk about it, you

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Speaker 3: just can't videotape.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So, if they have one here, case would you it'd

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Speaker 1: be fifty we would probably be willing to do.

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Speaker 3: Well, we'd have to go at least forty five to

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Speaker 3: get the minimum, and oh it's ninety to get in ninety.

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Speaker 2: So we'd have to get forty five dollars. But you

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Speaker 2: have to stay the whole time.

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Speaker 1: You can't just like go in there and like be

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Speaker 1: like there are a bunch of broad ripple threes and

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Speaker 1: I'm out of here.

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Speaker 5: Well, how long of a session is this?

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Speaker 3: I think it's however long you want you just go in.

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Speaker 1: We want you to cuddle to with at least three

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Speaker 1: people that we'd have to come up with some sort

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Speaker 1: of like numbers, like a bare minimum that we would

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Speaker 1: want you to cuddle with. Right, Yeah, this sounds like

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Speaker 1: the creepiest thing ever.

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Speaker 3: The creator said that her dream is for participants to

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Speaker 3: carry the practices into their everyday life. Huh, asking open questions,

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Speaker 3: offering longer hugs, and reflecting presents. You have to be

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Speaker 3: very friendzent.

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Speaker 2: What do I did this in broad Ripple for years.

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Speaker 3: From all the way and you only got charged with

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Speaker 3: like a five dollars cover.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's not even cocktails involved in this.

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Speaker 2: Oh there's I was going to ask, is there any like?

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Speaker 5: No, I don't think gen Z doesn't really drink, that's true.

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Speaker 3: There's just somebody's creating ways for gen Z to meet people.

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Speaker 2: This is rotten. This is just rotten and horrible. Be unbelief.

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Speaker 3: Somebody saw a need and is trying to fill it.

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Speaker 3: It is the Kennell and Casey Show. It's ninety three

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Speaker 3: WYBC