Speaker 1: Live from Vall Heartland and the Crossroads of America. It's
Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. So Anthony Fauci is held in contempt
Speaker 1: of Congress Good. This is not about the pardon, as
Speaker 1: Senator Rand Paul explained, This is about what he did
Speaker 1: after the pardon. This is about his pleading the Fifth
Speaker 1: one hundred and eleven times to questions that may or
Speaker 1: may not be Fifth worthy and whether or not he
Speaker 1: himself Anthony Fauci made it impossible to plead the fifth
Speaker 1: because he started by going after Senator Paul before pleading it.
Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, guys, an absolute pleasure to
Speaker 1: be here, to be with you. Find everything I do
Speaker 1: over at Tony katz dot com. Everybody has got their take,
Speaker 1: everybody's got there philosophy. And of course, when it comes
Speaker 1: to this hearing this idea of contempt, what you have
Speaker 1: is politics. Democrats saying how dare you that man saved us?
Speaker 1: Versus Republican saying we have his diaries that were on
Speaker 1: his computer, and my gosh, he's showing that he lied
Speaker 1: every single day every day. Origins gain a function, masks
Speaker 1: social distancing. The six feet thing was made up. It
Speaker 1: was lie after lie after lie, all the while loving
Speaker 1: the adulation and the glory. Once you want to have
Speaker 1: your picture taken, you're not really concerned about what it
Speaker 1: takes to get your picture taken. You'll do anything, and
Speaker 1: he did, including recognizing that the efficacy of vaccines wasn't
Speaker 1: going to stop the spread. But he didn't want to
Speaker 1: say that so much publicly or things like that publicly,
Speaker 1: because he didn't want to stop people from getting the vaccine.
Speaker 1: So therefore, you stopped sharing, or prevented the sharing, or
Speaker 1: hid information from the American people so they could make
Speaker 1: an informed decision. Instead, you scared an entire generation. I
Speaker 1: feel awful, not for grown ups who got vaccinated. I
Speaker 1: don't actually, I think the vast majority of Americans are
Speaker 1: totally fine, will be totally fine. But kids. We didn't
Speaker 1: know much about this vaccine, and we vaccinated kids when
Speaker 1: it was understood early on the kids were not dying
Speaker 1: from COVID. In my gosh, even the amount of people
Speaker 1: who actually died from COVID was a small number. There
Speaker 1: were comorbidities that abounded, the kids weren't dying. If kids
Speaker 1: had been said this at the time, we may not
Speaker 1: have known each other. Then if kids had been dying
Speaker 1: from COVID, parents would have been shooting other parents in
Speaker 1: the street to get their kid vaccinated first. You wouldn't
Speaker 1: have done that for your kid. You wouldn't have done anything.
Speaker 1: Of course you would have. They would have been out
Speaker 1: of their minds searching for vaccines, lining their kids up
Speaker 1: to get the vaccines. Kids weren't dying. Kids were fine,
Speaker 1: not just in the main, in the vast majority, if
Speaker 1: not the near totality of cases. That's not to say
Speaker 1: that there weren't one or two, or a group or
Speaker 1: a handful that got sick. Some kids died, of course
Speaker 1: they had other issues, but not like adults, not like seniors.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no. Look at the numbers,
Speaker 1: look at the data minuscule. And you don't lock down
Speaker 1: a generation of kids and tell them they can't see
Speaker 1: their friends and they have to wear a mask and
Speaker 1: everything else. For that's madness, that's control. And we properly,
Speaker 1: properly hate fauci and hate those who are in government
Speaker 1: for it. We hate burks, we hate the CDC, We
Speaker 1: hate those who made it political. We hate those who
Speaker 1: were desperate to keep lockdowns. We hate Randy Weingart.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: Hate is a strong word, but it is the right one.
Speaker 1: We hate these people for what they did to our
Speaker 1: kids and what they did to society, and those people
Speaker 1: who truly believe that you're allowed to stop the society
Speaker 1: from thriving. The Constitution goes on pause because there's an
Speaker 1: epidemic or a pandemic and a doctor said so I
Speaker 1: didn't vote for that doctor. Screw them, and the Constitution
Speaker 1: remains no matter what. And I really do hope, like
Speaker 1: you might, really hope that when one of these things
Speaker 1: comes around again, because it will, we remember this and
Speaker 1: we don't engage lockdowns and we push back aggressively, includes cops.
Speaker 1: You don't lock people down. You're wrong. You got to
Speaker 1: look at the government leadership and say you're wrong. We
Speaker 1: won't do this, we won't act like this, and we
Speaker 1: have to be able to fight back against that.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 1: I absolutely I say that without an ounce of hesitation,
Speaker 1: and I think you do as well. I certainly hope
Speaker 1: you do as well. You want us to trust science.
Speaker 1: Science has to be open and honest and transparent and clear.
Speaker 1: Here's what it says, Here's what it doesn't say. Here's
Speaker 1: what we think it means you got to make the
Speaker 1: call for you force. Force is not science. Fauci lied,
Speaker 1: so Fauci being held in contempt and at Senator Ran
Speaker 1: Paul leading the Senate Judiciary a committee in this conversation,
Speaker 1: in this vote.
Speaker 4: Eight days ago, doctor Anthony Fauci sat before this committee
Speaker 4: in the witness chair under subpoena for conduct covered by
Speaker 4: the President Biden's full and unconditional pardon reaching back to
Speaker 4: twenty fourteen. Doctor Fauci faced no risk of federal prosecution.
Speaker 4: All he had to do is tell the truth more
Speaker 4: than one hundred times. Though he refused, The Chair ruled
Speaker 4: that doctor Fauci's assertion of the Fifth Amendment privilege was
Speaker 4: unsupported in light of the pardon and the testimony he
Speaker 4: offered in his opening statement. The Chair directed Anthony Vaalci
Speaker 4: to answer. He refused again. That is what we are
Speaker 4: voting on today, not his opinions, not his policies, not
Speaker 4: anything he said from a podium six years ago. We
Speaker 4: are voting on whether a witness who has received the
Speaker 4: benefit of a sweeping federal pardon can be ordered by
Speaker 4: this committee to answer questions and then defy that order
Speaker 4: without consequence.
Speaker 1: More than a million Americans.
Speaker 4: Died from COVID, Many of them died alone. Workers were
Speaker 4: forced to choose between a mandate and a job they needed.
Speaker 4: Businesses closed and never reopened. Children lost years of school
Speaker 4: they will never get back. Americans lost the freedom to work,
Speaker 4: to worship, and to decide what went into their own bodies.
Speaker 4: Nothing we do today can undo those losses, but silence
Speaker 4: does not honor them either. This Committee and the American
Speaker 4: people have a right to know why doctor Fauci's agency
Speaker 4: funded dangerous research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, and
Speaker 4: what role he played in approving and overseeing it. Why
Speaker 4: he told his colleagues to delete emails, why he told
Speaker 4: them to delete emails and then delete the deleted file.
Speaker 4: What was he told in January twenty twenty, what was
Speaker 4: said on those calls, what his agency did with and
Speaker 4: for the intelligence community, And whether, knowing what he knows now,
Speaker 4: he still believes that the risks were worth taking. Documents
Speaker 4: tell only part of the story. Many of these questions
Speaker 4: can be answered only by doctor Fauci.
Speaker 1: I don't actually care if he thinks the risks were
Speaker 1: worth taking. Now that question doesn't move me. But you
Speaker 1: are funding the gain of function research in a Chinese
Speaker 1: virology lab. What's wrong with us? And that gata function
Speaker 1: research is only utilized to figure out how you can
Speaker 1: I mean, really, how you could create more harm. But
Speaker 1: you did lie about it. You did lie about the funding. Again,
Speaker 1: there is a reason to put him on trial.
Speaker 4: He answered, none of them. There will be another pandemic.
Speaker 4: The time to determine which legislative reforms are necessary to
Speaker 4: ensure that the mistakes of the past are not repeated
Speaker 4: is now, not later. This Committee passed the Bipartisan Risky
Speaker 4: Research Review Act to strengthen oversight of dangerous life sciences research.
Speaker 1: Funded by the federal government.
Speaker 4: To address failures exposed by the COVID nineteen pandemic. But
Speaker 4: Congress cannot determine what additional reforms are necessary until it
Speaker 4: fully understands what remains unanswered. Holding a witness and contempt
Speaker 4: is a serious thing, and it should be rare. But
Speaker 4: the contempt power exists for precisely this circumstance. Oversight is
Speaker 4: not a courtesy this Committee extends, or a favor a
Speaker 4: former official grants us. It is a constitutional obligation, and
Speaker 4: when voluntary cooperation ends, Congress must be able to compel
Speaker 4: compliance with its lawful demands. That is Congress's compulsory instrument.
Speaker 4: A subpoena is not an invitation. A subpoena with no
Speaker 4: consequence is not a subpoena. It's a suggestion. Seeking the
Speaker 4: truth is not a witch hunt. Accountability is not vengeance.
Speaker 4: Accountability is what stands between the American people and a
Speaker 4: repeat of the mistakes and the very real consequences of
Speaker 4: the past.
Speaker 1: That's pretty well said. I have no problem with this.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine that others do, except of course they do,
Speaker 1: because why in the world should we want information, Why
Speaker 1: in the world should we want the facts when we
Speaker 1: can have just the radical concepts that somehow it's wrong
Speaker 1: to tell a lawyer who was not called as a
Speaker 1: witness that he can't give testimony. Remember that Fauci's lawyer
Speaker 1: wants to argue with Rand Paul. Fauci's lawyer could speak
Speaker 1: to his client, give advice to his client, give thoughts
Speaker 1: to his client, but he wasn't there to testify. But
Speaker 1: Senator Richard Blumenthal, who lied about his Vietnam service, thinks
Speaker 1: that that was the worst thing that ever happened.
Speaker 3: Thank you, mister Senator Bluemendal I moved to postpone consideration
Speaker 3: of this resolution until the committee has an opportunity to
Speaker 3: hear from doctor Fauci's attorney, who was forcibly removed from
Speaker 3: the hearing last week. I should point out that doctor
Speaker 3: Fouti had a well founded fear based on facts that
Speaker 3: he was in jeopardy of prosecution for per In fact,
Speaker 3: the chairman and others on the committee have said the
Speaker 3: quiet part out loud. They've shouted it repeatedly, that their
Speaker 3: objective in that proceeding was, in fact to put doctor
Speaker 3: Fauci behind bars.
Speaker 1: He was if they shouted it out loud. It's very
Speaker 1: hard to say that that was the quiet part out
Speaker 1: loud because they shouted it. But let's let let's not
Speaker 1: you know, split hairs.
Speaker 3: Here represented by council who attempted to speak at this proceeding.
Speaker 3: Even during the darkest days of the McCarthy hearings, the
Speaker 3: council were allowed to speak.
Speaker 1: So there are two guys sitting behind center. Blomenthal aides.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're his aids or not, but
Speaker 1: the minute he said McCarthy, one guy just looked up.
Speaker 1: It was like is this happening. It's either that or
Speaker 1: he looked up and he said, did I leave the
Speaker 1: iron on? It was one or the other. We're reverencing McCarthy. Now, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 1: It would be one thing. If you said that Anthony
Speaker 1: Fauci shouldn't be allowed to have a lawyer, that would
Speaker 1: be nuts. I would oppose that wholeheartedly. But the idea
Speaker 1: of whether or not the lawyer could testify argue, no,
Speaker 1: he was not a witness. He is the lawyer to Fauci,
Speaker 1: and he can therefore advise Fauci. He cannot in any
Speaker 1: way do anything else. And what Richard Blumenthal is doing
Speaker 1: here is saying, but when I believe that's the uh,
Speaker 1: that's the official version. That's what he did, moaning, whining, bitching, kvetching,
Speaker 1: the whole thing. Senator Gary Peters, Democrat, Michigan. He's the
Speaker 1: guy not running for reelection. He's the guy who uh uh,
Speaker 1: the Islamist, the Islamo Marxist. I don't know what they're
Speaker 1: calling him these days. A duels a pseudo tough guy. Oh, oh,
Speaker 1: it's getting ridiculous. Are him and Hassan Piker the two
Speaker 1: biggest pansies who ever walked. Oh, I don't care how
Speaker 1: much as san Piker works out means nothing. Whimp can't
Speaker 1: handle anything, cannot handle a criticism, nothing. He is what
Speaker 1: he is. I apologize for saying that I hate America.
Speaker 1: No one believes you can't, no one, just like no
Speaker 1: one believes Abdul say ed when he's like, you know,
Speaker 1: I love the Jews. Okay, all right. By the way,
Speaker 1: that's not allowed in today's Democratic Party. So you're gonna
Speaker 1: get in trouble or you're just somebody who's lying for
Speaker 1: votes that we all see you. Either way, just whimp,
Speaker 1: but we'll get to that later. This was Senator Gary Peters.
Speaker 5: Considered until the Chairman provides all members of this committee
Speaker 5: with access to all documents, transcripts, and materials related to
Speaker 5: this investigation, which I have repeatedly requested since the beginning
Speaker 5: of this Congress. Senate in Committee rules are clear that
Speaker 5: all members of this committee have a right to access
Speaker 5: committee documents. The Chairman has publicly stated he has received
Speaker 5: over one million documents as part of this investigation and
Speaker 5: has only shared a small fraction with a minority, despite
Speaker 5: repeated request over the past year and a half.
Speaker 1: That's why I.
Speaker 5: Urge my colleagues to vote for this, and I just
Speaker 5: want to reply to some of the comments made by
Speaker 5: the chair that we just didn't want to look at
Speaker 5: this information. We have been asking for information for quite
Speaker 5: some period of time over the past eighteen months, and
Speaker 5: at every turn, whether it's the documents or trying to
Speaker 5: have the ability to question witnesses, we have been denied.
Speaker 5: Just in April of this year, your staff conducted a
Speaker 5: transcribed interview of Ralph Barrick without even notifying my staff
Speaker 5: about the interview. After you posted the transcript publicly, we
Speaker 5: asked for the unredacted version and the classified portion received
Speaker 5: absolutely no response. Refuse to let the minority participate in
Speaker 5: the transcribed interview that doctor Fauci agreed to do voluntarily,
Speaker 5: to a comment on one of my colleagues made, we
Speaker 5: could just do it and have a transcript in private.
Speaker 5: We were open to that. Doctor Fauci was open to it,
Speaker 5: but we were declined ability to do that. It was
Speaker 5: going to be one sided, and when he knew it
Speaker 5: was going to be one sided, he didn't want to
Speaker 5: come in. This committee normally always deals in a bipartisan way.
Speaker 5: We should have been there asking those questions.
Speaker 1: If we want to argue that this committee always works
Speaker 1: in a bipartisan way, I think if you want to argue, hey,
Speaker 1: some procedural things weren't done properly, I think you can
Speaker 1: go right ahead. But if you want to talk about
Speaker 1: a bipartisan way, what is where's the bipartisanship of the
Speaker 1: political left to say, yes, things were handled wrong, and yes,
Speaker 1: Anthony Fauci handled things wrong. I can argue that Donald
Speaker 1: Trump handled things wrong. I can argue that Mike Pen's
Speaker 1: handled things wrong. I can argue Joe Biden handled things wrong.
Speaker 1: A lot of people handle things wrong. My then governor
Speaker 1: in my state, Eric Holcombe, Republican, handled things really wrong.
Speaker 1: Where are you to say this, Gary Peters, where are
Speaker 1: you to say that Anthony Fauci and Joe Biden handled
Speaker 1: things wrong? Where are you to say that the CDC
Speaker 1: handled things wrong? And the answer is you're nowhere. You're nowhere.
Speaker 1: So we can see very clearly that the objective is
Speaker 1: not well, things were not done appropriately. You don't want
Speaker 1: the things done at all. And that's where this gets
Speaker 1: the worst. Remember that, remember that we took a virus
Speaker 1: and they said let's make it political. Not how do
Speaker 1: we help Americans, it's how to make it political. Well,
Speaker 1: now it's political. His cell phone is now in the
Speaker 1: hands of Senate investigators. Okay, okay, he's in contempt. I
Speaker 1: think a full Justice Department investigation is necessary. Treat him
Speaker 1: like you would treat anybody else. Treat him like you
Speaker 1: as a Trump supporter. Na, we're onto something innocent. He'll
Speaker 1: proven guilty. Sure, I think the data already proves him guilty,
Speaker 1: but I'll wait for a court. Keep it here. This
Speaker 1: is Tony Katz today, just so you know that you're
Speaker 1: not crazy, because you are not crazy. Sixty two percent
Speaker 1: of likely voters support the Save Act. Well, no, duh,
Speaker 1: Tony Katz. Tony Katz today is so going to be
Speaker 1: with you, guys. This is a Rasmussen Report survey. Forty
Speaker 1: six percent strongly supported out of the sixty two percent,
Speaker 1: thirty three percent of pose yes yes. The vast majority
Speaker 1: of Americans support the idea of voter id and knowing
Speaker 1: who it is that is a citizen, who it is
Speaker 1: that has the possibility the right to vote, keeping people
Speaker 1: who are trying to do us harm, keeping people here
Speaker 1: illegally be keeping people with nefarious intent out of our elections.
Speaker 1: Good who could possibly be opposed to this? That Republicans
Speaker 1: can't get this done is stunning. They can't get the
Speaker 1: filibuster gone to get this done, which is still a
Speaker 1: thing that is fraught, and no Democrat thinks that this
Speaker 1: is okay. It's madness.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: I would have gone about trying to present this in
Speaker 1: a couple of different ways. I would have tried different
Speaker 1: pieces of legislation about voter ID, all sorts of stuff
Speaker 1: that one could try that could get us closer to
Speaker 1: the goal, and then see where Democrats vote no on
Speaker 1: these very basic things. Democrats favor the concept of fraud.
Speaker 1: Even you, Senator John Fetterman, Yeah, you're doing great stuff
Speaker 1: regarding the Communists in your party, regarding Bernie Sanders, regarding
Speaker 1: a whole host of subjects that are very much not
Speaker 1: in vogue in the Democratic Party, like thinking Israel can exist,
Speaker 1: or that it's okay to have a relationship with another nation, right,
Speaker 1: very very rare things now in your party, not supporting communism, etc.
Speaker 1: But if you don't think we should have a voter ID,
Speaker 1: you're in an unserious position. It's a great reminder of
Speaker 1: why he could be right about a whole host of things.
Speaker 1: Not a Republican, not a conservative, He's just not And
Speaker 1: right now I'm not sure which Republicans are Republicans or conservatives.
Speaker 1: We can't get this pass. America's with us. You could
Speaker 1: lord try harder keep it here. This is Tony Katz today.
Speaker 1: So the President headed on down to Las Vegas to
Speaker 1: tout the economy. I don't think this was a bad
Speaker 1: idea at all. I don't think there was anything wrong
Speaker 1: with us. As a matter of fact, I think it's
Speaker 1: the right approach. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, pleasure. It
Speaker 1: is the right approach to say, you know, there are
Speaker 1: some good things going on. We should really be talking
Speaker 1: about some of the good things that are going on.
Speaker 1: The problem comes when you dismiss the other things that
Speaker 1: are happening. This is where the President, I think, is
Speaker 1: making a mistake. That's where I've said Scott Bessant is
Speaker 1: making a mistake the treasure sector. And I like Scott
Speaker 1: Bessont quite a bit, quite a bit. I think the
Speaker 1: vast majority of moves have been solid. I think the
Speaker 1: way he is able to better explain things than the
Speaker 1: President is excellent. I think that if he was listening
Speaker 1: to more in the room, we would see things be different.
Speaker 1: I cannot believe, and I don't believe that he is
Speaker 1: a tariff guy. I think he's trying his best to
Speaker 1: make it all work. And when we certainly talk about inflation,
Speaker 1: which we're talking about, I mean, you've got fedboard governors
Speaker 1: talking about rate hikes because the inflation isn't going down.
Speaker 1: Why the tariffs are a huge part of that. Tariffs
Speaker 1: didn't make things explode, but it is keeping them rates
Speaker 1: that are higher than we want to be. And when
Speaker 1: we take a look at the ten year treasury, remember
Speaker 1: the thirty year fixed mortgage. What you you know, the
Speaker 1: mortgage rate you pay for a house is based on
Speaker 1: the ten year Treasury four point six Well, even if
Speaker 1: you just added two hundred basis points that are two percent,
Speaker 1: you've got mortgage rates that are six point six percent.
Speaker 1: And if you take a look at the thirty year
Speaker 1: fixed mortgage on average across the country, what is it
Speaker 1: six point seventy nine. Yeah, a little more than two
Speaker 1: percent higher than the ten yuere that's the standard sometime,
Speaker 1: I mean during the peak goes two and a half
Speaker 1: basis points higher or more, so, you'd be over seven
Speaker 1: percent right now. People aren't buying houses at that and
Speaker 1: they're certainly buying less houses at six point seventy nine
Speaker 1: than they were at five point nine nine. The psychology
Speaker 1: is real and the money is real. These are bad
Speaker 1: rates that have a real effect. The inflation is too high,
Speaker 1: and part of the reason is the cash and the
Speaker 1: amount of people have to spend because of the tariffs.
Speaker 1: Of course they're paying more. The tariffs are indeed attacks.
Speaker 1: Did things run away? Did it get explosively crazy?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: And that's really fascinating stuff. And that is to President
Speaker 1: Trump's credit on a host of other things that he's doing.
Speaker 1: My argument is the same as doctor Will's argument, Doctor Mattwill.
Speaker 1: The economists we have on often if the tariffs weren't there,
Speaker 1: the economy would be a good explosive thing. That's felt
Speaker 1: on Midwest main Street. His biggest issue is that it's
Speaker 1: not felt on Midwest main Street. It's felt on Wall Street. Yes,
Speaker 1: absolutely true. Now one could argue that it's felt on
Speaker 1: Midwest main Street because a lot of people on Midwest
Speaker 1: main Street have investments they have for one case, or
Speaker 1: an employer, whole host of things, And yes, indeed those
Speaker 1: things are up. Those things are quite excellent. Bra visimo perfect.
Speaker 1: Nothing's perfect. But absolutely the market, the market's over fifty
Speaker 1: four thousand. The numbers don't make any sense at all
Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned, And I think you might agree,
Speaker 1: but it's still you could agree that it is there.
Speaker 1: There are things to point to. Are there costs that
Speaker 1: have come down? Absolutely? Are their costs that are still high? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: So when he goes and he talks about the economy,
Speaker 1: I have no issue with this, But when you dismiss
Speaker 1: the affordability conversation, I think you're making a mistake. Now
Speaker 1: this was ms NOW or miss now or m snow
Speaker 1: or whatever they call that damn network, And this is
Speaker 1: how they edited up his audio. Americans are working in
Speaker 1: the United States.
Speaker 2: Now that at any point in the history of our country.
Speaker 2: I saw poles at a television I say, Donald's Trump.
Speaker 1: Polls on the economy aren't good.
Speaker 2: The economy is the greatest economy we've ever had by far.
Speaker 1: The economy aren't good. They're fake poles, just like fake writers.
Speaker 2: And as the legal aliens go home, the cost of rent,
Speaker 2: groceries and other staples is coming down very fast. Our
Speaker 2: costs are coming way down.
Speaker 1: You know, they talk about affordability. I took over the country.
Speaker 2: The prices were through the roof in my first day.
Speaker 2: The press said, what are you going to do about affordability?
Speaker 2: It was a word they divised affordability. They never used
Speaker 2: that word before.
Speaker 1: You're right, sir. They didn't use the word affordability. They
Speaker 1: talked about cost. The affordability is their word. And that
Speaker 1: was the word that ma'm donnie used, and now everybody
Speaker 1: picked it up because ma'm Donnie's the future, which is
Speaker 1: to say, bigotry is the future, Communism is the future,
Speaker 1: Islamism is the future. Well that's not frightening at all,
Speaker 1: and you should be still talking about that, especially the
Speaker 1: idea of what it is those things are going to
Speaker 1: cost and how costly those lies are. This was Steve
Speaker 1: Varney's show there on Fox Business about mom Donnie's free
Speaker 1: healthcare and his free buses and everything that's free.
Speaker 3: How much woman Damie's free city plan cost of taxpayers?
Speaker 1: Stu, good morning.
Speaker 6: Well, Democratic socialist Marizora Mamdani campaign on an agenda he
Speaker 6: said would cost about ten billion dollars a year. Turns
Speaker 6: out it's likely going to be more than that. Start
Speaker 6: with free universal childcare. The Center for New York City
Speaker 6: Affairs estimates the cost at up to nine point three
Speaker 6: billion dollars a year, fifty five percent.
Speaker 1: More than Mam Donnie said.
Speaker 6: Most of that pays for his promise of teacher level
Speaker 6: salaries for childcare workers.
Speaker 1: Then there's free and fast buses.
Speaker 6: Mam Donnie said that that would take eight hundred million
Speaker 6: dollars a year. The city's into Pennant Budget Office says
Speaker 6: one point one billion. That plan is now on hold.
Speaker 6: Mom Donnie said he would raise ten billion dollars a year,
Speaker 6: mostly through new taxes on corporations and millionaires. So far,
Speaker 6: he's projected to raise about a billion dollars a year
Speaker 6: from a new piet a tear tax and state aid.
Speaker 1: Here's the problem.
Speaker 6: Only the state can levy new taxes, and Governor Kathy
Speaker 6: Holkl has said no.
Speaker 1: Now, before we go any further in this reporting, which
Speaker 1: is really really well done, the headline is everything communists
Speaker 1: say is a lie. They're lying to get elected, they're
Speaker 1: lying to twenty two year olds, they are lying to everyone.
Speaker 1: Why in the world should we give these frauds any respect? Everything.
Speaker 1: They start by lying about how many people Communism is killed.
Speaker 1: It's one hundred million, and I'm not interested in adding
Speaker 1: to the total. I'm not interested in making that total
Speaker 1: pinventially larger. If these people should get power, they lie
Speaker 1: about what their desires are. They lie by calling themselves
Speaker 1: socialists when they're communists. They lie by creating a party
Speaker 1: called the DSA because they know they can't work it
Speaker 1: with the communist brand. Their healthcare is going to be childcare.
Speaker 1: Should say it is three billion dollars more expensive. Their
Speaker 1: free buses are three hundred million dollars more expensive. And
Speaker 1: their answer is to rich people will pay it because
Speaker 1: they hate It's another thing to discuss. Don't hate somebody
Speaker 1: for having money. Ask what kind of society can allow
Speaker 1: us to grow and prosper that's better off. The taker
Speaker 1: society is an evil society. Well Tony, you see, the
Speaker 1: problem is the society is rigged, so we can't make
Speaker 1: a living. If you tell somebody enough that something's rigged,
Speaker 1: they'll eventually believe you, and they won't try because they
Speaker 1: believe it's rigged. So here we have an example of
Speaker 1: what we have allowed to happen to our children. All
Speaker 1: across America by pushing these lies on them, that the
Speaker 1: system is rigged. One thing we should note is that
Speaker 1: it ain't easy. We should always be clear about how
Speaker 1: it isn't easy, and we should also be clear that
Speaker 1: we have a generation in this gen Z that truly
Speaker 1: believes they're not going to do as well as their parents,
Speaker 1: that we're going to see a backslide in growth. One
Speaker 1: could argue, well, eventually that was going to happen, right,
Speaker 1: but one cannot get particularly angry and a generation of
Speaker 1: people that I've been told there's this great American reality,
Speaker 1: this great American dream, but not for you. No, everybody
Speaker 1: else got it and took it, not for you, and
Speaker 1: that's how these lefties were able to take hold. So
Speaker 1: rather instead of saying the American dream is alive and well,
Speaker 1: you got to get into conversations about how you grab it,
Speaker 1: how you take advantage of it. But if the counter
Speaker 1: to the American is their socialism, pseudo intellectual masculatory fantasy,
Speaker 1: we have the data they're only off by three point
Speaker 1: six billion dollars. And if they're off by three point
Speaker 1: six billion dollars, who are they going to take it from?
Speaker 1: Taxation is not the answer. Redistribution is not the answer,
Speaker 1: because eventually it has to be taken from you. It
Speaker 1: was Margaret Thatcher. Eventually you run out of other people's money.
Speaker 1: They're already lying about the costs. They're not There's one
Speaker 1: mayor in New York. He's got two programs, three point
Speaker 1: six billion dollars he's off. Eventually the money has to
Speaker 1: come from somewhere for the fantasy. Maybe the issue for
Speaker 1: the younger generation is telling them that they cannot have
Speaker 1: everything they want. They're going to have to make choices,
Speaker 1: hard choices, tough choices. But within those choices, that's where
Speaker 1: the freedom is. That's where the good stuff is. I
Speaker 1: didn't say it wasn't hard. I am saying that to
Speaker 1: make choices is empowering. But maybe that's a conversation for
Speaker 1: another day. Maybe the conversation for right now is the
Speaker 1: recognition that they do have. What they see in front
Speaker 1: of them is bleakness, and we have to be able
Speaker 1: to explain to them where the opportunity is and it
Speaker 1: is for them to grab and achieve that our system,
Speaker 1: the republican capitalism, offers the most amount of opportunities, and
Speaker 1: their system, the communism and the totalitarianism offers no choices.
Speaker 1: It isn't that everybody is equal. It is that everybody
Speaker 1: is pushed down into the dirt except those at the
Speaker 1: very top. That is the history of their value system.
Speaker 1: The history of our value system is growth and opportunity
Speaker 1: and choice and actual legitimate liberty. We can prove this,
Speaker 1: and this is what proves it. Three point three billion
Speaker 1: dollars on just two programs. Imagine if they had healthcare.
Speaker 1: Imagine that healthcare. And how about the open and honest
Speaker 1: discussion that when they say free healthcare, that's a word.
Speaker 1: If you're twenty four and listening to me, first of all, bravo,
Speaker 1: well done. We'll played. If you're twenty four and someone
Speaker 1: says to you free healthcare, you understand that you still
Speaker 1: have a broken leg. Right free health care, free healthcare.
Speaker 1: You get free health care. We get paid for it
Speaker 1: by the government. Rich people pay it and they pay
Speaker 1: their fair share. You still have a broken leg. If
Speaker 1: you break your leg, you don't care that you have
Speaker 1: free healthcare. You know what you care about getting your
Speaker 1: leg set, getting it fixed, getting it healed, and it
Speaker 1: healing properly. Healthcare doesn't do that. A doctor with skill
Speaker 1: gets that done. That's what heals your leg. That's what's important.
Speaker 1: In their system, you don't get to the doctor right away.
Speaker 1: Oh sure, if you've got the money, you can pay
Speaker 1: for your own doctor. But if you believe in universal
Speaker 1: health care, government run healthcare, you don't believe in private
Speaker 1: doctors at all. Their communism, though they want to still
Speaker 1: call it socialism, that's cute, means that you get what
Speaker 1: you get when you get it. Healthcare. Free healthcare doesn't
Speaker 1: mean anything. And this is the affordability conversation that Donald
Speaker 1: Trump needs to have, not to deny that there's an
Speaker 1: affordability issue, not to say it's the greatest economy ever,
Speaker 1: certainly not for everybody. Recognize where people are and show
Speaker 1: them that there are ways for things to get better.
Speaker 1: And yes, we are in this turn. We're also in
Speaker 1: a turn where AI is coming in and jobs are
Speaker 1: moving out and things are in flux. All of that stinks.
Speaker 1: What comes on the other side is still better if
Speaker 1: this system holds, because this system allows you to be
Speaker 1: creative and adaptive and work in your best interest. This
Speaker 1: economy is still better. And President Trump can make it
Speaker 1: better by getting rid of a whole bunch of those tariffs.
Speaker 1: You can keep them on China a couple other places,
Speaker 1: but a whole bunch of these needs to go, starting
Speaker 1: with Nicaragua. So my cigars aren't so expensive, Thank you, sir.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. But the communists will lie to you.
Speaker 1: Look at what they've done on childcare, look at what
Speaker 1: they've done on free buses, because nothing is free. And
Speaker 1: look at their conversation on healthcare. They never say you'll
Speaker 1: actually get the care, you won't get the legs set fixed,
Speaker 1: you won't be able to run again, But they'll say
Speaker 1: free healthcare, and isn't that great? No, it's not. We
Speaker 1: have to speak in real time where people really are,
Speaker 1: so they understand that they have a stake, so they
Speaker 1: understand they have skin in the game, so they understand
Speaker 1: that they are not powerless, that they are not victims.
Speaker 1: It could be tough, but it can be a little
Speaker 1: bit easier, and we have the tools to make it
Speaker 1: a little bit easier. But we should never turn away
Speaker 1: from the fact that it is indeed tough, and in
Speaker 1: that is the joy because what they offer the paradise
Speaker 1: is no paradise. You will get nothing. And if you
Speaker 1: want to, then do for yourself. You will be put
Speaker 1: down and that's how they get to one hundred million dead. Oh,
Speaker 1: one hundred million in one if you should speak out
Speaker 1: a turn. This is Tony Katz today. So the room
Speaker 1: mill has it that President Trump at a donor meeting,
Speaker 1: talking to donors in the Oval said, regarding twenty twenty
Speaker 1: eight quote, at the end end of the day, we
Speaker 1: need to elect JD. That is a quote that someone
Speaker 1: gave to Fox News Digital Tony Katz. Tony Katz today,
Speaker 1: I have absolutely no idea if that is true or not.
Speaker 1: I have no idea whether he said it or whether
Speaker 1: he didn't. But man, is it that is going to
Speaker 1: make people talk all day. All day They're gonna be
Speaker 1: talking about this.
Speaker 2: Me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not a JD guy. I think I always
Speaker 1: thought it was just foreign policy where he doesn't get it.
Speaker 1: This whole conversation about economic nationalism, we got to dig
Speaker 1: in even more. It's just not where I'm at. Do
Speaker 1: I think that we need to be protective of some
Speaker 1: things in terms of whether or not we allow ourselves
Speaker 1: to be abused by other nations. Sure, economic nationalism, I
Speaker 1: think he understands or he means it is something wholly different.
Speaker 1: I'll dig into this conversation. I promise find everything at
Speaker 1: tonycats dot com tomorrow. Everyone take care,