WEBVTT - Episode 4654: Tony Katz Today Hour 3 - 08/06/26 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:10.800 Live from Vall Heartland and the Crossroads of America. It's 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:16.320 Tony Katz today. So Anthony Fauci is held in contempt 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:22.079 of Congress Good. This is not about the pardon, as 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:25.800 Senator Rand Paul explained, This is about what he did 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:29.680 after the pardon. This is about his pleading the Fifth 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:33.839 one hundred and eleven times to questions that may or 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:38.960 may not be Fifth worthy and whether or not he 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:43.400 himself Anthony Fauci made it impossible to plead the fifth 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:47.800 because he started by going after Senator Paul before pleading it. 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:50.560 Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, guys, an absolute pleasure to 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:52.879 be here, to be with you. Find everything I do 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:57.320 over at Tony katz dot com. Everybody has got their take, 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:03.000 everybody's got there philosophy. And of course, when it comes 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:08.280 to this hearing this idea of contempt, what you have 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:14.800 is politics. Democrats saying how dare you that man saved us? 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:19.760 Versus Republican saying we have his diaries that were on 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:24.199 his computer, and my gosh, he's showing that he lied 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:34.120 every single day every day. Origins gain a function, masks 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:40.080 social distancing. The six feet thing was made up. It 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:44.959 was lie after lie after lie, all the while loving 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:50.000 the adulation and the glory. Once you want to have 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:53.800 your picture taken, you're not really concerned about what it 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:57.800 takes to get your picture taken. You'll do anything, and 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:03.240 he did, including recognizing that the efficacy of vaccines wasn't 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:05.400 going to stop the spread. But he didn't want to 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:08.480 say that so much publicly or things like that publicly, 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:11.120 because he didn't want to stop people from getting the vaccine. 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:15.480 So therefore, you stopped sharing, or prevented the sharing, or 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:19.520 hid information from the American people so they could make 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:24.560 an informed decision. Instead, you scared an entire generation. I 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:28.560 feel awful, not for grown ups who got vaccinated. I 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:32.000 don't actually, I think the vast majority of Americans are 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:36.840 totally fine, will be totally fine. But kids. We didn't 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:41.560 know much about this vaccine, and we vaccinated kids when 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:45.320 it was understood early on the kids were not dying 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:48.639 from COVID. In my gosh, even the amount of people 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:52.239 who actually died from COVID was a small number. There 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:59.280 were comorbidities that abounded, the kids weren't dying. If kids 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:01.680 had been said this at the time, we may not 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:04.400 have known each other. Then if kids had been dying 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:07.920 from COVID, parents would have been shooting other parents in 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:12.960 the street to get their kid vaccinated first. You wouldn't 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:15.040 have done that for your kid. You wouldn't have done anything. 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:18.079 Of course you would have. They would have been out 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:22.280 of their minds searching for vaccines, lining their kids up 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:27.800 to get the vaccines. Kids weren't dying. Kids were fine, 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:31.600 not just in the main, in the vast majority, if 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:34.800 not the near totality of cases. That's not to say 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:37.200 that there weren't one or two, or a group or 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:41.480 a handful that got sick. Some kids died, of course 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:47.040 they had other issues, but not like adults, not like seniors. 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:50.160 No no, no, no, no no. Look at the numbers, 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:54.920 look at the data minuscule. And you don't lock down 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:56.960 a generation of kids and tell them they can't see 0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:58.480 their friends and they have to wear a mask and 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:04.840 everything else. For that's madness, that's control. And we properly, 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:10.600 properly hate fauci and hate those who are in government 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:15.280 for it. We hate burks, we hate the CDC, We 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:18.000 hate those who made it political. We hate those who 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:20.960 were desperate to keep lockdowns. We hate Randy Weingart. 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:21.120 No. 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:23.920 Hate is a strong word, but it is the right one. 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:26.600 We hate these people for what they did to our 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:29.479 kids and what they did to society, and those people 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:34.880 who truly believe that you're allowed to stop the society 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:39.120 from thriving. The Constitution goes on pause because there's an 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:42.640 epidemic or a pandemic and a doctor said so I 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:45.680 didn't vote for that doctor. Screw them, and the Constitution 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:49.360 remains no matter what. And I really do hope, like 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:52.720 you might, really hope that when one of these things 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:56.320 comes around again, because it will, we remember this and 0:04:56.360 --> 0:05:01.080 we don't engage lockdowns and we push back aggressively, includes cops. 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:06.480 You don't lock people down. You're wrong. You got to 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:08.479 look at the government leadership and say you're wrong. We 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:11.000 won't do this, we won't act like this, and we 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:12.560 have to be able to fight back against that. 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:13.080 Oh. 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:16.400 I absolutely I say that without an ounce of hesitation, 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:18.520 and I think you do as well. I certainly hope 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:21.159 you do as well. You want us to trust science. 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:23.880 Science has to be open and honest and transparent and clear. 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:26.840 Here's what it says, Here's what it doesn't say. Here's 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:28.800 what we think it means you got to make the 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:34.839 call for you force. Force is not science. Fauci lied, 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:41.279 so Fauci being held in contempt and at Senator Ran 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:45.840 Paul leading the Senate Judiciary a committee in this conversation, 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:46.720 in this vote. 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:51.000 Eight days ago, doctor Anthony Fauci sat before this committee 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:54.800 in the witness chair under subpoena for conduct covered by 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:58.760 the President Biden's full and unconditional pardon reaching back to 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:03.440 twenty fourteen. Doctor Fauci faced no risk of federal prosecution. 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:06.560 All he had to do is tell the truth more 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:11.119 than one hundred times. Though he refused, The Chair ruled 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:14.560 that doctor Fauci's assertion of the Fifth Amendment privilege was 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:17.960 unsupported in light of the pardon and the testimony he 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:22.839 offered in his opening statement. The Chair directed Anthony Vaalci 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:26.480 to answer. He refused again. That is what we are 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:31.640 voting on today, not his opinions, not his policies, not 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:35.320 anything he said from a podium six years ago. We 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:37.880 are voting on whether a witness who has received the 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:41.240 benefit of a sweeping federal pardon can be ordered by 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:44.479 this committee to answer questions and then defy that order 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:45.560 without consequence. 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:48.719 More than a million Americans. 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:52.080 Died from COVID, Many of them died alone. Workers were 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:54.840 forced to choose between a mandate and a job they needed. 0:06:55.320 --> 0:07:00.000 Businesses closed and never reopened. Children lost years of school 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:03.520 they will never get back. Americans lost the freedom to work, 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:06.920 to worship, and to decide what went into their own bodies. 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:10.800 Nothing we do today can undo those losses, but silence 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:14.320 does not honor them either. This Committee and the American 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:17.360 people have a right to know why doctor Fauci's agency 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:21.680 funded dangerous research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, and 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:25.240 what role he played in approving and overseeing it. Why 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:28.480 he told his colleagues to delete emails, why he told 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:31.480 them to delete emails and then delete the deleted file. 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:35.440 What was he told in January twenty twenty, what was 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:39.200 said on those calls, what his agency did with and 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:43.520 for the intelligence community, And whether, knowing what he knows now, 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:47.800 he still believes that the risks were worth taking. Documents 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:50.840 tell only part of the story. Many of these questions 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:52.800 can be answered only by doctor Fauci. 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:55.320 I don't actually care if he thinks the risks were 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:59.040 worth taking. Now that question doesn't move me. But you 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:01.640 are funding the gain of function research in a Chinese 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:05.880 virology lab. What's wrong with us? And that gata function 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:09.760 research is only utilized to figure out how you can 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:13.440 I mean, really, how you could create more harm. But 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:16.280 you did lie about it. You did lie about the funding. Again, 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:19.840 there is a reason to put him on trial. 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:25.840 He answered, none of them. There will be another pandemic. 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:30.080 The time to determine which legislative reforms are necessary to 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:33.239 ensure that the mistakes of the past are not repeated 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:38.280 is now, not later. This Committee passed the Bipartisan Risky 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:43.679 Research Review Act to strengthen oversight of dangerous life sciences research. 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:45.319 Funded by the federal government. 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:49.120 To address failures exposed by the COVID nineteen pandemic. But 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:52.640 Congress cannot determine what additional reforms are necessary until it 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:57.720 fully understands what remains unanswered. Holding a witness and contempt 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:01.040 is a serious thing, and it should be rare. But 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:05.640 the contempt power exists for precisely this circumstance. Oversight is 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:09.000 not a courtesy this Committee extends, or a favor a 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:13.320 former official grants us. It is a constitutional obligation, and 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:17.080 when voluntary cooperation ends, Congress must be able to compel 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:22.920 compliance with its lawful demands. That is Congress's compulsory instrument. 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:26.400 A subpoena is not an invitation. A subpoena with no 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:30.120 consequence is not a subpoena. It's a suggestion. Seeking the 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:33.720 truth is not a witch hunt. Accountability is not vengeance. 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:37.600 Accountability is what stands between the American people and a 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:41.160 repeat of the mistakes and the very real consequences of 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:41.680 the past. 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:46.760 That's pretty well said. I have no problem with this. 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:50.480 I can't imagine that others do, except of course they do, 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:54.840 because why in the world should we want information, Why 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:58.840 in the world should we want the facts when we 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:04.000 can have just the radical concepts that somehow it's wrong 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:07.559 to tell a lawyer who was not called as a 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:12.520 witness that he can't give testimony. Remember that Fauci's lawyer 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:15.480 wants to argue with Rand Paul. Fauci's lawyer could speak 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:20.960 to his client, give advice to his client, give thoughts 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:24.760 to his client, but he wasn't there to testify. But 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:29.160 Senator Richard Blumenthal, who lied about his Vietnam service, thinks 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:31.079 that that was the worst thing that ever happened. 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:35.959 Thank you, mister Senator Bluemendal I moved to postpone consideration 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:39.200 of this resolution until the committee has an opportunity to 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:45.480 hear from doctor Fauci's attorney, who was forcibly removed from 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:51.800 the hearing last week. I should point out that doctor 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:55.679 Fouti had a well founded fear based on facts that 0:10:55.760 --> 0:11:00.760 he was in jeopardy of prosecution for per In fact, 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:03.360 the chairman and others on the committee have said the 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:07.079 quiet part out loud. They've shouted it repeatedly, that their 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:11.640 objective in that proceeding was, in fact to put doctor 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:13.360 Fauci behind bars. 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:16.440 He was if they shouted it out loud. It's very 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:18.680 hard to say that that was the quiet part out 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:22.200 loud because they shouted it. But let's let let's not 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:23.559 you know, split hairs. 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:28.079 Here represented by council who attempted to speak at this proceeding. 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:35.520 Even during the darkest days of the McCarthy hearings, the 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:37.840 council were allowed to speak. 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:42.240 So there are two guys sitting behind center. Blomenthal aides. 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:44.080 I don't know if they're his aids or not, but 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:47.720 the minute he said McCarthy, one guy just looked up. 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:51.520 It was like is this happening. It's either that or 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:53.280 he looked up and he said, did I leave the 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:59.839 iron on? It was one or the other. We're reverencing McCarthy. Now, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:00.120 Oh. 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:04.959 It would be one thing. If you said that Anthony 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:08.240 Fauci shouldn't be allowed to have a lawyer, that would 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:14.360 be nuts. I would oppose that wholeheartedly. But the idea 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:19.160 of whether or not the lawyer could testify argue, no, 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:23.880 he was not a witness. He is the lawyer to Fauci, 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:28.280 and he can therefore advise Fauci. He cannot in any 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:31.320 way do anything else. And what Richard Blumenthal is doing 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:37.439 here is saying, but when I believe that's the uh, 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:45.800 that's the official version. That's what he did, moaning, whining, bitching, kvetching, 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:51.120 the whole thing. Senator Gary Peters, Democrat, Michigan. He's the 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:56.640 guy not running for reelection. He's the guy who uh uh, 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:59.719 the Islamist, the Islamo Marxist. I don't know what they're 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:06.360 calling him these days. A duels a pseudo tough guy. Oh, oh, 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:10.120 it's getting ridiculous. Are him and Hassan Piker the two 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:13.240 biggest pansies who ever walked. Oh, I don't care how 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:20.000 much as san Piker works out means nothing. Whimp can't 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:25.440 handle anything, cannot handle a criticism, nothing. He is what 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:28.840 he is. I apologize for saying that I hate America. 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:34.080 No one believes you can't, no one, just like no 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:36.840 one believes Abdul say ed when he's like, you know, 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:42.120 I love the Jews. Okay, all right. By the way, 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:45.199 that's not allowed in today's Democratic Party. So you're gonna 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:47.920 get in trouble or you're just somebody who's lying for 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:51.080 votes that we all see you. Either way, just whimp, 0:13:51.440 --> 0:14:00.560 but we'll get to that later. This was Senator Gary Peters. 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:01.840 Considered until the Chairman provides all members of this committee 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:06.000 with access to all documents, transcripts, and materials related to 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:12.160 this investigation, which I have repeatedly requested since the beginning 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:15.880 of this Congress. Senate in Committee rules are clear that 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:18.720 all members of this committee have a right to access 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:22.880 committee documents. The Chairman has publicly stated he has received 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:27.840 over one million documents as part of this investigation and 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:31.880 has only shared a small fraction with a minority, despite 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:35.200 repeated request over the past year and a half. 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:36.120 That's why I. 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:38.680 Urge my colleagues to vote for this, and I just 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:41.560 want to reply to some of the comments made by 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:45.000 the chair that we just didn't want to look at 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:50.920 this information. We have been asking for information for quite 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:53.840 some period of time over the past eighteen months, and 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:58.280 at every turn, whether it's the documents or trying to 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:02.440 have the ability to question witnesses, we have been denied. 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:05.200 Just in April of this year, your staff conducted a 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:09.160 transcribed interview of Ralph Barrick without even notifying my staff 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:13.880 about the interview. After you posted the transcript publicly, we 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:18.880 asked for the unredacted version and the classified portion received 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:23.600 absolutely no response. Refuse to let the minority participate in 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:27.080 the transcribed interview that doctor Fauci agreed to do voluntarily, 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:29.240 to a comment on one of my colleagues made, we 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:32.680 could just do it and have a transcript in private. 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:35.720 We were open to that. Doctor Fauci was open to it, 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:39.640 but we were declined ability to do that. It was 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:41.120 going to be one sided, and when he knew it 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:42.880 was going to be one sided, he didn't want to 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:46.120 come in. This committee normally always deals in a bipartisan way. 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:49.040 We should have been there asking those questions. 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:51.920 If we want to argue that this committee always works 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:54.440 in a bipartisan way, I think if you want to argue, hey, 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:56.920 some procedural things weren't done properly, I think you can 0:15:57.640 --> 0:15:59.880 go right ahead. But if you want to talk about 0:15:59.920 --> 0:16:03.760 a bipartisan way, what is where's the bipartisanship of the 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:07.720 political left to say, yes, things were handled wrong, and yes, 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:11.800 Anthony Fauci handled things wrong. I can argue that Donald 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:13.920 Trump handled things wrong. I can argue that Mike Pen's 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:16.440 handled things wrong. I can argue Joe Biden handled things wrong. 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:19.480 A lot of people handle things wrong. My then governor 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:23.440 in my state, Eric Holcombe, Republican, handled things really wrong. 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:26.720 Where are you to say this, Gary Peters, where are 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:29.400 you to say that Anthony Fauci and Joe Biden handled 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:31.880 things wrong? Where are you to say that the CDC 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:37.160 handled things wrong? And the answer is you're nowhere. You're nowhere. 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:41.760 So we can see very clearly that the objective is 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:45.560 not well, things were not done appropriately. You don't want 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:49.160 the things done at all. And that's where this gets 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:54.160 the worst. Remember that, remember that we took a virus 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:58.000 and they said let's make it political. Not how do 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:01.880 we help Americans, it's how to make it political. Well, 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:05.119 now it's political. His cell phone is now in the 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:11.560 hands of Senate investigators. Okay, okay, he's in contempt. I 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:15.840 think a full Justice Department investigation is necessary. Treat him 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:18.480 like you would treat anybody else. Treat him like you 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:23.520 as a Trump supporter. Na, we're onto something innocent. He'll 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:27.800 proven guilty. Sure, I think the data already proves him guilty, 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:30.800 but I'll wait for a court. Keep it here. This 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:33.200 is Tony Katz today, just so you know that you're 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:37.760 not crazy, because you are not crazy. Sixty two percent 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:41.400 of likely voters support the Save Act. Well, no, duh, 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:44.159 Tony Katz. Tony Katz today is so going to be 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:48.240 with you, guys. This is a Rasmussen Report survey. Forty 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:51.280 six percent strongly supported out of the sixty two percent, 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:56.960 thirty three percent of pose yes yes. The vast majority 0:17:56.960 --> 0:18:03.200 of Americans support the idea of voter id and knowing 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:06.840 who it is that is a citizen, who it is 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:11.520 that has the possibility the right to vote, keeping people 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:13.639 who are trying to do us harm, keeping people here 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:17.719 illegally be keeping people with nefarious intent out of our elections. 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:22.600 Good who could possibly be opposed to this? That Republicans 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:26.280 can't get this done is stunning. They can't get the 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:29.440 filibuster gone to get this done, which is still a 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:32.439 thing that is fraught, and no Democrat thinks that this 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:34.480 is okay. It's madness. 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:34.680 Now. 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:37.399 I would have gone about trying to present this in 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:39.320 a couple of different ways. I would have tried different 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:42.280 pieces of legislation about voter ID, all sorts of stuff 0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:44.640 that one could try that could get us closer to 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:48.240 the goal, and then see where Democrats vote no on 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:52.359 these very basic things. Democrats favor the concept of fraud. 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:56.119 Even you, Senator John Fetterman, Yeah, you're doing great stuff 0:18:56.240 --> 0:19:01.520 regarding the Communists in your party, regarding Bernie Sanders, regarding 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:04.800 a whole host of subjects that are very much not 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:08.000 in vogue in the Democratic Party, like thinking Israel can exist, 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:10.880 or that it's okay to have a relationship with another nation, right, 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:15.360 very very rare things now in your party, not supporting communism, etc. 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:17.800 But if you don't think we should have a voter ID, 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:22.320 you're in an unserious position. It's a great reminder of 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:24.439 why he could be right about a whole host of things. 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:28.480 Not a Republican, not a conservative, He's just not And 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:31.920 right now I'm not sure which Republicans are Republicans or conservatives. 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:36.880 We can't get this pass. America's with us. You could 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:43.560 lord try harder keep it here. This is Tony Katz today. 0:19:45.400 --> 0:19:48.600 So the President headed on down to Las Vegas to 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:51.600 tout the economy. I don't think this was a bad 0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:55.880 idea at all. I don't think there was anything wrong 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:57.080 with us. As a matter of fact, I think it's 0:19:57.080 --> 0:20:00.760 the right approach. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, pleasure. It 0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:03.160 is the right approach to say, you know, there are 0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:06.120 some good things going on. We should really be talking 0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:07.800 about some of the good things that are going on. 0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:12.720 The problem comes when you dismiss the other things that 0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:16.280 are happening. This is where the President, I think, is 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:18.720 making a mistake. That's where I've said Scott Bessant is 0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:21.680 making a mistake the treasure sector. And I like Scott 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:24.440 Bessont quite a bit, quite a bit. I think the 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:27.000 vast majority of moves have been solid. I think the 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:29.920 way he is able to better explain things than the 0:20:29.960 --> 0:20:32.880 President is excellent. I think that if he was listening 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:34.959 to more in the room, we would see things be different. 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:38.240 I cannot believe, and I don't believe that he is 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:40.800 a tariff guy. I think he's trying his best to 0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:43.920 make it all work. And when we certainly talk about inflation, 0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:49.439 which we're talking about, I mean, you've got fedboard governors 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:53.480 talking about rate hikes because the inflation isn't going down. 0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:57.080 Why the tariffs are a huge part of that. Tariffs 0:20:57.119 --> 0:21:00.639 didn't make things explode, but it is keeping them rates 0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:03.400 that are higher than we want to be. And when 0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:06.480 we take a look at the ten year treasury, remember 0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:09.240 the thirty year fixed mortgage. What you you know, the 0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:11.879 mortgage rate you pay for a house is based on 0:21:11.920 --> 0:21:17.120 the ten year Treasury four point six Well, even if 0:21:17.119 --> 0:21:19.760 you just added two hundred basis points that are two percent, 0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:24.560 you've got mortgage rates that are six point six percent. 0:21:25.960 --> 0:21:28.040 And if you take a look at the thirty year 0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:31.440 fixed mortgage on average across the country, what is it 0:21:31.520 --> 0:21:35.560 six point seventy nine. Yeah, a little more than two 0:21:35.560 --> 0:21:40.200 percent higher than the ten yuere that's the standard sometime, 0:21:40.200 --> 0:21:42.880 I mean during the peak goes two and a half 0:21:43.000 --> 0:21:46.600 basis points higher or more, so, you'd be over seven 0:21:46.640 --> 0:21:49.800 percent right now. People aren't buying houses at that and 0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:54.880 they're certainly buying less houses at six point seventy nine 0:21:55.200 --> 0:21:57.960 than they were at five point nine nine. The psychology 0:21:58.040 --> 0:22:00.840 is real and the money is real. These are bad 0:22:01.040 --> 0:22:05.679 rates that have a real effect. The inflation is too high, 0:22:05.760 --> 0:22:07.600 and part of the reason is the cash and the 0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:09.920 amount of people have to spend because of the tariffs. 0:22:09.960 --> 0:22:12.960 Of course they're paying more. The tariffs are indeed attacks. 0:22:13.359 --> 0:22:16.360 Did things run away? Did it get explosively crazy? 0:22:16.480 --> 0:22:16.600 No? 0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:20.159 And that's really fascinating stuff. And that is to President 0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:22.399 Trump's credit on a host of other things that he's doing. 0:22:23.119 --> 0:22:29.400 My argument is the same as doctor Will's argument, Doctor Mattwill. 0:22:29.400 --> 0:22:32.920 The economists we have on often if the tariffs weren't there, 0:22:34.200 --> 0:22:38.159 the economy would be a good explosive thing. That's felt 0:22:38.200 --> 0:22:43.040 on Midwest main Street. His biggest issue is that it's 0:22:43.200 --> 0:22:48.040 not felt on Midwest main Street. It's felt on Wall Street. Yes, 0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:53.639 absolutely true. Now one could argue that it's felt on 0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:56.240 Midwest main Street because a lot of people on Midwest 0:22:56.240 --> 0:22:59.399 main Street have investments they have for one case, or 0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:04.080 an employer, whole host of things, And yes, indeed those 0:23:04.119 --> 0:23:11.160 things are up. Those things are quite excellent. Bra visimo perfect. 0:23:11.200 --> 0:23:17.520 Nothing's perfect. But absolutely the market, the market's over fifty 0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:21.400 four thousand. The numbers don't make any sense at all 0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:24.320 as far as I'm concerned, And I think you might agree, 0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:27.280 but it's still you could agree that it is there. 0:23:28.160 --> 0:23:31.600 There are things to point to. Are there costs that 0:23:31.680 --> 0:23:37.040 have come down? Absolutely? Are their costs that are still high? Absolutely? 0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:40.520 So when he goes and he talks about the economy, 0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:43.639 I have no issue with this, But when you dismiss 0:23:43.760 --> 0:23:46.960 the affordability conversation, I think you're making a mistake. Now 0:23:47.000 --> 0:23:49.879 this was ms NOW or miss now or m snow 0:23:49.960 --> 0:23:52.960 or whatever they call that damn network, And this is 0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:58.520 how they edited up his audio. Americans are working in 0:23:58.560 --> 0:24:00.000 the United States. 0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:03.879 Now that at any point in the history of our country. 0:24:04.440 --> 0:24:07.840 I saw poles at a television I say, Donald's Trump. 0:24:07.680 --> 0:24:09.200 Polls on the economy aren't good. 0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:12.639 The economy is the greatest economy we've ever had by far. 0:24:13.560 --> 0:24:17.360 The economy aren't good. They're fake poles, just like fake writers. 0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:21.480 And as the legal aliens go home, the cost of rent, 0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:25.000 groceries and other staples is coming down very fast. Our 0:24:25.000 --> 0:24:26.200 costs are coming way down. 0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:30.280 You know, they talk about affordability. I took over the country. 0:24:30.560 --> 0:24:33.560 The prices were through the roof in my first day. 0:24:33.760 --> 0:24:36.760 The press said, what are you going to do about affordability? 0:24:36.800 --> 0:24:40.240 It was a word they divised affordability. They never used 0:24:40.240 --> 0:24:41.680 that word before. 0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:45.520 You're right, sir. They didn't use the word affordability. They 0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:50.119 talked about cost. The affordability is their word. And that 0:24:50.280 --> 0:24:52.199 was the word that ma'm donnie used, and now everybody 0:24:52.200 --> 0:24:54.760 picked it up because ma'm Donnie's the future, which is 0:24:54.800 --> 0:24:57.399 to say, bigotry is the future, Communism is the future, 0:24:57.440 --> 0:25:01.280 Islamism is the future. Well that's not frightening at all, 0:25:01.320 --> 0:25:04.000 and you should be still talking about that, especially the 0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:07.479