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Speaker 2: We obviously see those you know, those folks every single day.

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Speaker 2: They do great work here in Connecticut. I am so

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Speaker 3: This is what John said, right.

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Speaker 2: We swore an oath when we became us senators and

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Speaker 4: No one's acting illegally, Chris Murphy. This is what happens

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Speaker 4: when you're a bada mail and your pee sitting down?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 4: Sorry, was that too soon? Was that too early in

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Speaker 4: back to that. No, Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good

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Speaker 4: No one is acting illegally regarding ice. No one.

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Speaker 5: That's a lie.

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Speaker 4: So why don't you instead, Senator Murphy, you absolute manchild,

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Speaker 4: Why don't you just say there have been actions that

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Speaker 4: we disapprove of and then why don't you really say,

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Speaker 4: we want to hurt Donald Trump in the midterms. We

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Speaker 4: one goal. F that guy, why not just say it.

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Speaker 4: By the way, you're standing next to a guy, Richard Blumenthal,

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Speaker 4: Don't go and let sure to us regarding morality, sir,

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Speaker 4: you don't have it. You're not capable of it. They're

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Speaker 4: not funding the Department of Homeland Security. Even though Christy

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Speaker 4: These people aren't interested in a better country. They're interested

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Speaker 5: Solely and exclusively, nothing else.

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Speaker 4: But let us take it to Iran, where the President

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Speaker 4: not air superiority. It is as described air supremacy. We

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Speaker 4: been seven days. We're also hearing that the Russians are

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Speaker 4: the only thing he's willing to accept is this unconditional surrender.

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Speaker 4: There will be no deal with Iran except unconditional surrender

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Speaker 4: after that, and the selection of a great and acceptable leader.

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Speaker 4: We and many of our wonderful and very brave vllies

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Speaker 4: to this matter, President Donald J.

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Speaker 4: And you say to me, well, well, well, Donald Trump

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Speaker 4: is involved in nation building. For the record, to pose

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Speaker 5: Who our allies are. This is Keir Starmer.

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Speaker 4: This is the British Prime Minister, and we have discussed

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Speaker 6: The long standing British position he is the best way

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Speaker 6: Drones and missiles, but ten countries that did not attack them.

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Speaker 5: Let's start with a baseline.

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Speaker 4: Every Republican Thomas Massey voted in favor of such a thing.

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Speaker 5: Who votes against such a thing that we know to

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Speaker 4: Sometimes it just say in the vernacular, let the sexist

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Speaker 4: Hewett at yahoo dot com. Representative of Costier Court says

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Speaker 5: It just is. So am I.

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Speaker 4: Supposed to listen to them or their leftist akolai when

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Speaker 5: America didn't start this war. Just make sure we keep

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Speaker 4: This got started when the Iranian regime took hostages in

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Speaker 4: Does that change my mind about taking out the Iranian

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Speaker 5: You mean the Supreme Court made a decision you don't like.

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Speaker 8: For me, prophetic voices like Jesus have helped me reckon

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Speaker 4: President Obama is concerned about the vote, ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 4: And you say to me, Tony, why would you play

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Speaker 4: That's why you need to pass the Save Act. I'm

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Speaker 4: Barack Obama. Voter idea is good and people oppose to

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Speaker 5: Voter ID. I'm Barack Obama. What. Oh, we don't know

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Speaker 5: Elections right now, they are under threat. What under threat?

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Speaker 5: What have the Democrats done this time, Barack Obama.

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Speaker 9: Over the past year, several Republican controlled states have taken

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Speaker 5: Oh, this is an older video.

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Speaker 4: Oh you want to talk about redistricting, mister president.

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Speaker 4: Let's talk about redistricting with Democratic Governor Abigail Spanberger.

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Speaker 10: Hello, I'm Governor Abigail's fan, and I'm voting yes on

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Speaker 4: Oh well, according to Barack Obama, Abigail Spamburger, you are

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Speaker 5: You cannot make this stuff up.

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Speaker 4: When Republicans do it, it is the worst thing that

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Speaker 5: What's wrong? What's the big deal? Why are you paying attention?

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Speaker 5: Why are you looking at us? Why are you so

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Speaker 4: Abigail Spamberger said she had absolutely no intention of engaging redistricting,

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Speaker 10: Here's why I supported the formation of Virginia's Bipartisan Redistricting

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Speaker 10: What has changed is what we're seeing in states across

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Speaker 4: Just a note to the people you know I live

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Speaker 5: I am a fellow the Mitch Daniels Leadership Foundation.

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Speaker 4: I like Mitch Daniels tremendously personally and professionally. And he

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Speaker 4: The way that's it is. This is Barack Obama having

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Speaker 9: And they've done it for a simple reason to give

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Speaker 5: So I guess it. It wasn't a older video.

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Speaker 4: It is a recent video where Democrats are willing to say.

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Speaker 4: Republicans are amongst the dumbest people on the planet because

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Speaker 4: I am very big on this idea, the idea of

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, no.

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Speaker 4: It's leftists who scream punch a Nazi. Well, who's a nazi?

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Speaker 4: Will anybody we disagree with as a nazi? Disgusting, vile people.

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Speaker 4: They're the ones who believe in tearing down cities, setting

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Speaker 5: They're the ones on the attack. That's who they are.

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Speaker 4: And that's where this starts everything. Abigail Spamberger and Barack

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Speaker 4: Republicans redistricted in Texas. I believe it was North Carolina.

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Speaker 4: Democrats redistricted in California, and they're trying to in Virginia,

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Speaker 4: We look at redistricting, that is something that happens with

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Speaker 4: didn't get to advise him, and Texas did it. I

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Speaker 4: said at the time, well, then that's an issue for Texans.

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Speaker 4: If Texans don't like it, remember, nothing would change to

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Speaker 4: their local representation, their state life representation.

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Speaker 5: They could vote those people right out.

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Speaker 4: But there's nothing illegal about mid decade redistricting. Nothing every

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Speaker 4: argument's counter is a lie. Do not believe lies, do

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Speaker 4: not buy into lies. Do not buy into that narrative.

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Speaker 4: It is illegal. It is a political process. Now, you

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Speaker 4: could argue that you don't like it. Okay, I can

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Speaker 4: accept that, but it is a legal process. Republicans in

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Speaker 4: states like mine forgot that they owe a responsibility to

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Speaker 4: the nation. Legislatures decide how these things work, and they

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Speaker 4: have a larger responsibility to the nation.

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Speaker 5: And I say this in the.

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Speaker 4: Same moment, I say out loud that we should repeal

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Speaker 4: the amendment of the direct election of senators and those

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Speaker 4: senators should be appointed by the states, because I do

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Speaker 4: not appreciate it when legislatures are not allowed to engage

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Speaker 4: their full powers. Nothing can be more important than the

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Speaker 4: representatives of the people, local to the people making the

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Speaker 4: decision about representation in Washington that will best represent them

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Speaker 4: and not represent a political part. Republicans forgot that they

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Speaker 4: were in a fight. They thought they were engaged in

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Speaker 4: a concept of civility. There is a massive problem with

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Speaker 4: the definition of civility because some people think civility is

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Speaker 4: please and thank you and all that jazz. Civility is

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Speaker 4: not please and thank you and all that jazz. That's

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Speaker 4: not what civility is. Civility is the majority, not tyrannizing

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Speaker 4: the minority.

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Speaker 5: Civility is the minority not acting.

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Speaker 4: In an undemocratic way to try and destroy the majority.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. I sat there.

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Speaker 4: I lived in California after Barack Obama was elected.

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Speaker 5: I'm sitting like kitchen table. It's late.

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Speaker 4: My brother's there, my wife is there. I'm eating a bagel.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why it was a bagel, but it was.

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Speaker 4: And could not believe it, could not believe how horrifying

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Speaker 4: it was that America voted for a guy that progressive,

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Speaker 4: nay communist. We knew the story, but they did.

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Speaker 5: But they did. What did I do? Tried to get

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Speaker 5: Mitt Romney elected.

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Speaker 4: Turned out Mitt Romney didn't actually want to get elected

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Speaker 4: because he beat Barack Obama in the first debate, and

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Speaker 4: then he decided, now I'm good. That's what happened. You

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Speaker 4: could say anything you want about Romney right now post Trump.

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Speaker 4: But then he had it and he allowed Candy Crowley

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Speaker 4: to decide how to talk for him in a debate.

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Speaker 5: He won that first debate.

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Speaker 4: He then just got himself knocked around exactly like a

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Speaker 4: mitt Romney gets knocked around and the rest is history.

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Speaker 4: Republicans have a long history of not fighting because they

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Speaker 4: think that it's about civility. Civility does not mean the

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Speaker 4: absence of fighting. And the first thing you do in

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Speaker 4: a fight is you never accept their narrative.

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Speaker 5: They lie. Free and fair elections, says Barack Obama when

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Speaker 5: Democrats do it, but not when Republicans do it. What

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Speaker 5: a fraud. And there was a.

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Speaker 4: Story regarding Indiana that somehow a gentleman's deal was made

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Speaker 4: with Maryland.

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Speaker 5: You don't redistrict. We don't redistrict. What is Maryland trying

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Speaker 5: to do? Redistrict? You believe them.

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Speaker 4: They hate you, They want to destroy you. You understand

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Speaker 4: that the left, they get power, really does want to

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Speaker 4: put the political right their words, not mine. In in

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Speaker 4: re education camps, they absolutely believe this stuff. They believe

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Speaker 4: that they are pious and we need to be destroyed.

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Speaker 4: We need to be reprogrammed. Dude, I'm free and good,

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Speaker 4: and so are you. We agree, we disagree, We drink

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Speaker 4: a little bourbon.

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Speaker 5: Life's all right.

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Speaker 4: My politics are based on what I think it takes

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Speaker 4: to best to have a free country.

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Speaker 5: Their politics are their religion.

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Speaker 4: So you understand that we're dealing with a cult and

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Speaker 4: you have to fight it in that way, and you

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Speaker 4: can never give in to their narrative. You want to

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Speaker 4: redistrict Republicans, it's pure evil. They want to do it. Well,

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Speaker 4: then it's quite all right, And why do you care?

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Speaker 4: Why are you paying attention? That is what Barack Obama

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Speaker 4: and Governor Abigail Spaanberg are selling right now.

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Speaker 5: Unbelievable. I'm Tony Kats and this is Tony Kats. Today.

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Speaker 5: Oil price is making them move upward today.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, gas prices are going to go up more than

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Speaker 4: I anticipated.

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Speaker 5: Tony Kats, Tony Katz.

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Speaker 4: Today West Texas crewed cracked ninety at one moment, hitting

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Speaker 4: ninety one eighty five a barrel Brench crude, which is

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Speaker 4: the oceans coming out of the oceans, over ninety three

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Speaker 4: dollars a barrel. That is rough. That is rough stuff.

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Speaker 4: This because you have a closure in the straits of Hormuz,

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Speaker 4: and once you get the straight open, this will start dropping.

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Speaker 4: This has got to be a key key focus of

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Speaker 4: the United States. You absolutely knew that this could happen.

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Speaker 4: This is not surprising at all. Surprising. That is that

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Speaker 4: a petition to require a voter ID that says only

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Speaker 4: US citizens can vote has gotten more than eight hundred

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Speaker 4: and seventy five thousand signatures, which was the threshold.

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Speaker 5: It has one point three million signatures.

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Speaker 4: And this is California, California Voter IDEA initiative one point

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Speaker 4: three million signatures across every county fifty eight counties in California,

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Speaker 4: which means.

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Speaker 5: On the ballot it goes because this is how California works,

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Speaker 5: unless Gavin.

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Speaker 4: Newsom is going to try and pull it fast. Want

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Speaker 4: to say, now, we're not going to allow that. So

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Speaker 4: why would we ever have anybody opposed to voter ID

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Speaker 4: somebody else? Republicans have to start talking about Democrats want fraud.

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Speaker 4: Democrats are trying for fraud. They are fine with fraud.

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Speaker 4: Everyone in America wants voter ID except for Progressives. They're

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Speaker 4: desperate for fraud. Look at these fraudsters who want to

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Speaker 4: steal your vote from you with having people here I

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Speaker 4: legally vote. Disgusting, despicable. Don't vote for them. Get out

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Speaker 4: and vote and don't vote for them, and make your

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Speaker 4: voice heard. If we get enough decent people, we can

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Speaker 4: beat the fraudsters and then pass the legislation necessary to

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Speaker 4: ensure our safe.

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Speaker 5: Vote in America.

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Speaker 4: Democrats can complain all they want, keep at it, don't stop,

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Speaker 4: don't rest.

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Speaker 5: Don't quit. I mean one point three million people in California.

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Speaker 5: Some proof do you need? I'm Tony Katz. This is

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Speaker 5: Tony Cats today.

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Speaker 1: Why from vall Hartbiner and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 5: It's Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 4: When I first saw the case, I'm like, I don't

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Speaker 4: understand what this case is all about. No part of

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Speaker 4: it made sense. Can you be stoned and shoot your

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Speaker 4: weapon at someone? I mean, I thought that was the case.

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Speaker 4: I thought that was the conversation. Maybe it's a little

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Speaker 4: more in depth. Tony Kats, Tony Katz today, Good to

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Speaker 4: be with you. This is the case the United States

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Speaker 4: versus Hamani, the United States versus Hamani hm An I were.

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Speaker 4: The Supreme Court has already heard the case, and this

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Speaker 4: was a question of whether an habitual user of marijuana

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Speaker 4: is still able to possess a firearm. I have many thoughts.

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Speaker 4: Guy Ralford joins me right now. Guy Ralford is a

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Speaker 4: Second Amendment attorney. He is also a radio host on

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Speaker 4: my home station of ninety three point one of MWIBC.

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Speaker 4: He is known as a gun guy throughout Central Indiana.

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Speaker 5: Indiana as a whole.

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Speaker 4: He is engaged as a lawyer of some of the

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Speaker 4: most high profile cases in the state, never minds in America.

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Speaker 4: He is also the founder of the two A Project.

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Speaker 4: Let's start where we start here because this case kind

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Speaker 4: of flew under the radar until it was heard by

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Speaker 4: the Supreme Court this week and people were saying.

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Speaker 5: Well, well, well I can be stoned and shoot.

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Speaker 4: Walk me through, take me through the basics here. What

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Speaker 4: is this case about.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, this case is about the Controlled Substances Act of

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Speaker 11: nineteen seventy and how it intersects with the federal laws

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Speaker 11: dealing with who can and cannot possess a firearm tony

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Speaker 11: and under eighteen USC. Which is US Code nine two G.

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Speaker 11: That's a broad category, several categories of people who cannot

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Speaker 11: legally possess firearms under federal law. If you go to

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Speaker 11: G three subsection, it says, if you're an unlawful user

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Speaker 11: of or.

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Speaker 3: Addicted to.

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Speaker 11: A controlled substance an illegal drug, then you cannot possess

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Speaker 11: a firearm. And marijuana is still a Controlled Substances Act.

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Speaker 11: Under the Controlled Substances Act of nineteen seventy as ridiculous

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Speaker 11: as that might be, and as unrelated as that might

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Speaker 11: be to the dangerousness of marijuana, and that's an issue

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Speaker 11: that came up during the arguments.

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Speaker 3: In this case. It's still illegal at the federal level.

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Speaker 11: So Hamani is a guy who was found with marijuana

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Speaker 11: in his apartment in Texas, and he was also in

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Speaker 11: possession of a gun there in his apartment. They arrested

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Speaker 11: him and he went to trial. The trial court said,

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Speaker 11: you know what, I think the statute is unconstitutional because

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Speaker 11: there's no nexus. There's no logical connection between occasional marijuana use,

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Speaker 11: and that's the allegation here. He admitted to being a

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Speaker 11: regular user of marijuana, no evidency, was high on marijuana

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Speaker 11: at the same time. He actually possessed a gun. But

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Speaker 11: the statue says an unlawful user of or addicted to

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Speaker 11: a controlled substance. Well, he said, yeah, I used marijuana regularly.

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Speaker 11: On that basis, he was prosecuted again. Trial court said,

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Speaker 11: now this looks unconstitutional to me. I don't think this

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Speaker 11: holds muster under Supreme Court precedence, say, there has to

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Speaker 11: be some historical analog that says at the time of

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Speaker 11: the founding there were similar kinds of laws, and that's

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Speaker 11: from the Bruined decision, which you remember from back.

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Speaker 3: In twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 11: Went up to the Court of Appeals, the Fifth Circuit

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Speaker 11: Court of Appeals that handles appeals from Texas, Louisiana, and Mississippi,

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Speaker 11: and the Fifth Circuit said, we agree with the trialcourt,

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Speaker 11: this is unconstitutional. And the government appealed that. Yes, Trump's

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Speaker 11: dj is actually the one appealing the decision of unconstitutionality

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Speaker 11: out of the Fifth Circuit, and it went up to

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Speaker 11: the Supreme Court. And as you just mentioned, oral argument

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Speaker 11: was just earlier this week on Monday, I believe, And

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Speaker 11: let's based on an argument now we can start prognosticating

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Speaker 11: what the court's going to do with it.

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Speaker 4: Let's hold on just right there, because you said something

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Speaker 4: I think it hit my ear peculiar, which was the

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Speaker 4: idea about this tie was high. He admits to being

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Speaker 4: a casual user marijuana. He owns a gun, but you

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Speaker 4: use the term.

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Speaker 5: Possessing a firearm, you possessing a gun.

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Speaker 4: Do we see those things as different, the idea of

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Speaker 4: ownership versus the idea of possession. Does there have to

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Speaker 4: be is the difference in use, in purpose, in presentation.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's a great question.

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Speaker 11: And all of the federal prohibitions and most state prohibitions

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Speaker 11: talking about who cannot have a firearm all focused on possession,

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Speaker 11: not ownership. So in other words, I may own several guns.

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Speaker 11: But let's say I'm convicted of a felony and now

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Speaker 11: I can't legally own a gun under federal law under

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Speaker 11: a different provision of nine to twenty two g. Well,

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Speaker 11: if I give all my guns to a friend and

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Speaker 11: say hold these guns for me, I still own them.

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Speaker 11: I want them back when I win my case at

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Speaker 11: the Supreme Court. But in the meantime, you can hold

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Speaker 11: these for me. I'm not breaking any law, even under

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Speaker 11: the government's interpretation, because I don't physically possess them. Now,

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Speaker 11: possession can take two actual forms. There's actual possession and

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Speaker 11: constructive possession. Actual possession is it's in my immediate physical control.

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Speaker 11: Constructive possession is where I have both the means and

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Speaker 11: the intent to exercise dominion in control over that firearm.

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Speaker 11: So in other words, it's in my car, it's under

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Speaker 11: the sea. I'm the only one in the car. I

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Speaker 11: have constructive possession of it, even though I don't have

665
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Speaker 11: physically have it in my hand or what that's called

666
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Speaker 11: constructive possession. But to your question, the focus is always

667
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Speaker 11: on possession, not ownership.

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Speaker 4: That is that sounds just flat out Nattie talking to

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Speaker 4: Guy Ralford Ralford Law dot com, second Amendment attorney.

670
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Speaker 5: Also the founder of the two A Project.

671
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Speaker 4: Now, this case gets to the Supreme Court, and the

672
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Speaker 4: Supreme Court is trying to decipher this argument. They're trying

673
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Speaker 4: to decipher the idea of drug use and firearms ownership

674
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Speaker 4: before we get to wear the Supreme Court and what

675
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Speaker 4: we the questions that you heard and what you think

676
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Speaker 4: they meant it.

677
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 5: We're trying to read the tea leaves.

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Speaker 4: What is the standard thought process? You're a guy who

679
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 4: teaches firearms safety. You've done work, of course, being with

680
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 4: the NRA and a host of others. You're known for

681
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 4: your work on the subject, You've written books on firearms safety.

682
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 4: What is the standard thought process of what we'll call it.

683
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Speaker 4: We'll create a broad crush here gun owners in America

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Speaker 4: on this case on the idea of drug use and

685
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Speaker 4: or casual drug use or even drinking and firearms.

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Speaker 11: I think and a broad category of people that I

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Speaker 11: wouldn't attempt to speak for, but I think my interpretation

688
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Speaker 11: of at least a consensus would be that where there's

689
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Speaker 11: no connection between actual dangerousness that is, something taking something,

690
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Speaker 11: being in such an altered state, or otherwise that makes

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Speaker 11: you dangerous and too dangerous to own a firearm absence

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Speaker 11: some connection between a prohibition and dangerousness, then I think

693
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Speaker 11: those laws are unconstitutional, and I think the vast majority

694
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Speaker 11: of good owners would agree with me. I think there's

695
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 11: a smaller percentage and minority who would say, well, wait

696
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 11: a minute, unless you're in jail and physically taken off

697
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Speaker 11: the street. If you're not so dangerous as to be

698
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Speaker 11: in prison and the government lets you out to be

699
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Speaker 11: among the rest of society, then you're by definition not

700
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Speaker 11: so dangerous that you should be deprived of your constitutional rights.

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Speaker 11: And there's some logic actually behind that, even though I

702
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 11: think it's more a minority position, but certainly when there's

703
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Speaker 11: no nexus, there's no connection between dangerousness and a prohibition.

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Speaker 11: For instance, we're going to see a case in the

705
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Speaker 11: Supreme Court not so long from now. I'm sure eventually

706
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Speaker 11: that looks at whether non violent felons can be prohibited.

707
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Speaker 11: I mean, the exact same analysis that the Supreme Court's

708
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Speaker 11: undergoing in this Hamani case.

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Speaker 3: Because if I.

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Speaker 11: Cheated on my taxes, or in one actual case, I

711
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 11: lied on my application for food stamps, does that make

712
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Speaker 11: me so dangerous as to not be able to possess firearm?

713
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 11: I think the answer is obviously no. But that's the

714
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Speaker 11: way the law works today. You're going to see a

715
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Speaker 11: similar challenge. So, coming back to Hamani, if occasional, even

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Speaker 11: regular marijuana use, with no evidence that you're high at

717
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Speaker 11: the time you physically possess a gun, that's an important distinction.

718
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Speaker 3: You occasionally use marijuana.

719
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Speaker 11: But no evidence that when you picked up a gun

720
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Speaker 11: you were so stoned as to be dangerous. That I

721
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 11: think is what the Court is going to have a

722
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Speaker 11: hard time with. And I think it's going to be

723
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Speaker 11: a thin majority. I think you may see some range benfellows.

724
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Speaker 11: I think you may see some traditional liberal justices here

725
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Speaker 11: side with more conservative ones. He may see some that

726
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Speaker 11: conservative justices that go the other way. They simply want

727
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Speaker 11: to be deferential to Congress. So I think it's going

728
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Speaker 11: to be interesting and you may see an interesting mix

729
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Speaker 11: on this. But based on the questions and the challenges,

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Speaker 11: the statements from justices of your argument, you may see

731
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Speaker 11: a thin majority in favor of the gun owner.

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Speaker 5: Here, let's get into that.

733
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Speaker 4: Talking to Guy Relford, he's known as the gun guy on.

734
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Speaker 5: Radio Relford Law dot com.

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Speaker 4: Second amendment attorney, second amendment expert that we use here

736
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Speaker 4: on Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 5: And when you take.

738
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Speaker 4: A look at how the Supreme Court was asking the questions,

739
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Speaker 4: this is how Shooting News Weekly put it. It appears

740
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Speaker 4: the Supreme Court is likely to let marijuana users own guns.

741
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 4: And then there was this going back to October of

742
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Speaker 4: twenty twenty five when this case was first known about

743
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Speaker 4: this this was Gun Owners of America gun owners dot Org,

744
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Speaker 4: which I do not have any connection with. I don't

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Speaker 4: know if you have any connection with. And they write

746
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Speaker 4: the Department of Justice intentionally hand picked the worst facts

747
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Speaker 4: for gun owners.

748
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Speaker 5: So talk to me about the case that.

749
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Speaker 4: Was made by the federal government and then.

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Speaker 5: The questions that were asked by the Supreme Court. How

751
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Speaker 5: did it leaving you feeling?

752
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Speaker 4: Knowing that Shooting These Weekly, for example, amongst others, thought

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Speaker 4: that the questions led to the idea of, yeah, you're

754
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Speaker 4: gonna be able to smoke marijuana and still.

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Speaker 5: On a gun.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm less than cautiously optimistic. I think again, if

757
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Speaker 11: I had to bet the mortgage, I think my prediction

758
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,240
Speaker 11: is youre going to see a thin majority in favor

759
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 11: of the gun owner here. But I would not be

760
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Speaker 11: surprised by to see it go the other way. I

761
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Speaker 11: don't think it will be a big swing either way.

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Speaker 11: For instance, the Chief Justice seemed to want to give

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Speaker 11: Congress a lot of deference. He challenged Hamani's lawyer to say, well,

764
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Speaker 11: wait a minute, if Congress has made a determination that

765
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Speaker 11: a factual determination that a broad category of people here

766
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Speaker 11: illegal drug users, are dangerous, and who were we as

767
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Speaker 11: a court to interfere with that decision coming from the legislature.

768
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Speaker 11: And isn't that more of the legislature's job than the

769
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Speaker 11: judiciary's job. And you could see some conservative justices wanting

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Speaker 11: to go that direction. At the same time, you had

771
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Speaker 11: Justice Gorsuch actually make a point which I did on

772
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Speaker 11: the radio before the oral argument. I made the same

773
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Speaker 11: one on the radio, which was hold on if the

774
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Speaker 11: analog here, that's required the justices have to cite some

775
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Speaker 11: some historical examples of regulations under the Second Amendment, that

776
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Speaker 11: were deemed appropriate and constitutional under the Second Amendment, that

777
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Speaker 11: are similar, that are analogs that apply the same logic.

778
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Speaker 3: And and and some of the analogs were.

779
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Speaker 11: For instance, there were laws at the time of the

780
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 11: Founding where governments could uh disarm habitual drunkards and uh

781
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Speaker 11: and and and and and and the government said, well,

782
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 11: there you go. If you can disarmed habitual drunkards, we

783
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 11: can disarmed habitual marijuana users and uh and and just

784
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 11: as uh. Of course, it said, hold on, that's drunkards,

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Speaker 11: not occasional users of alcohol, and and and there's a

786
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 11: big difference because here he was an occasional user of marijuana.

787
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Speaker 3: He wasn't.

788
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Speaker 11: There's no evidence he was so high as to be incapacitated.

789
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 11: And the drunkard statute from the way back in the day,

790
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 11: we're looking at people who couldn't manage their own affairs because.

791
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Speaker 3: They were drunk all the time. That's what we're dealing

792
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Speaker 3: with here.

793
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Speaker 11: And by the way, if you're going to say that

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Speaker 11: applies to occasional users of marijuana, you just disqualified all

795
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 11: of the founders.

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Speaker 3: Excuse me, regular users of alcohol is what I meant

797
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Speaker 3: to say.

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Speaker 11: If you're trying to say that applies to the occasional,

799
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Speaker 11: even regular use of alcohol, then you just disqualified all

800
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Speaker 11: of the founders. And it was a powerful point that's

801
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Speaker 11: when I made on the radio before they were our

802
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 11: and I think that indicates where Gorsas is going to go.

803
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Speaker 11: But it's it's going to be an odd combination.

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Speaker 3: Of justices on this ruling, is my prediction.

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Speaker 4: Do you find you talk about Van Bruin and and

806
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 4: some of the other decisions that even the late with

807
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 4: better Ginsburg was in favor of the gun owner and

808
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 4: the right.

809
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 5: To keeping bare arms means on one's one's person.

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Speaker 4: Do you think that they engage some of these kinds

811
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 4: of responses and decisions in favor of gun ownership with

812
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 4: resentment like they're they're really left no course because the

813
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 4: Second Amendment says what it says and doesn't say what

814
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Speaker 4: it doesn't say. Do you find that the court would

815
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 4: like to find an out like, for example, when you

816
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 4: talk about John Roberts saying, well, Congresses in Congress, that's

817
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 4: that is standard for him. That goes back to his

818
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 4: position on Obamacare and a host of other things I

819
00:49:55,440 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 4: just recently decisions. Do you find the court's churching for

820
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 4: a reason to turn down the gun owner, or has

821
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 4: the Court become at least this court kind of accepting

822
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Speaker 4: of the fact that the gun owner has rights and

823
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Speaker 4: it's simply there's nothing that's going to change that.

824
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Speaker 11: I think it depends on which justice. There's a mixed

825
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 11: bag to answer your question. For instance, I think Justice

826
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Speaker 11: Thomas is a firm believer in the Second Amendment. He's

827
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 11: the one that consistently comes out after the Supreme Court

828
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 11: denies circerrari in cases they won't review a case, he says,

829
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Speaker 11: come on, we got to start taking more of these cases.

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Speaker 11: The Second Amendment is not a second class citizen when

831
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:38,240
Speaker 11: it comes to the Bill of Rights. It occupies equal

832
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 11: stature with everything else in the Bill of Rights, and

833
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Speaker 11: we need to start treating it as such.

834
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Speaker 3: He's a true believer on that, I think. I think

835
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Speaker 3: Gorsaic is strong.

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Speaker 11: Amy Coney Barrett and Justice Kavanaugh have both written very

837
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Speaker 11: strong opinions even as Court of Appeals judges before they

838
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 11: became members of the Supreme Court that indicate I think

839
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Speaker 11: a strong pro constitution, pro Second Amendment leaning. I think

840
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 11: others are more resigned to the fact, as you said,

841
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 11: the Constitution says what it says, But I think here

842
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 11: you may even get some more traditional liberal justices. And

843
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Speaker 11: I'm thinking here about Soda, Mayor and Kagan, those two

844
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 11: justices who may men be more focused on the marijuana

845
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 11: side of it than the Second Amendment side of it.

846
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,240
Speaker 11: But to say, hold on, what's the rationale for depriving

847
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 11: this whole class of people when there's not been a designation,

848
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 11: there's not been any kind of fact finding of dangerousness

849
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 11: when the scheduling of a drug occurs. And what I

850
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 11: mean by that is this is is marijuana is currently

851
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 11: a Schedule one drug under the Control Substances Act in

852
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Speaker 11: nineteen seventy. That means it's up there with heroin and

853
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 11: methamphetamine and cocaine as being one of the worst in

854
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 11: terms of being addictive and worst in terms of harmful

855
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 11: effects and potential for overdose. And to put marijuana in

856
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 11: that same category is somewhat ridiculous. And there's some interesting

857
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 11: story behind that that has a very much of a

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00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 11: political bent to it, which is interesting history. But when

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00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 11: in deciding that marijuana when to be scheduled at all

860
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Speaker 11: or to become a Schedule one, Congress never made any

861
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Speaker 11: kind of fact finding as to whether or not being

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00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 11: high on marijuana makes you dangerous makes you more inclined

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Speaker 11: to commit some violent act than any other drug, prescription

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Speaker 11: or non controlled or non And a lot of justices

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Speaker 11: in this oral argument focused on that. To say, hold on,

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Speaker 11: you're saying Congress made a broad prohibition based on their

867
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Speaker 11: determination that certain drugs making dangerous.

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Speaker 3: But that's not what happens.

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Speaker 11: When you put a drug into a particular schedule under

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Speaker 11: the Controlled Substances Act, they categorize them on entirely different

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00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 11: set of criteria, which are things like addictiveness and potential

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Speaker 11: for side effects and harm and overdose and death. Never,

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00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 11: if they use this drug, they're going to go commit

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Speaker 11: violent acts. And since that was never part of the

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00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 11: fact finding, how can you rely on that as justification?

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Speaker 11: And I think that's a powerful argument that even a

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00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 11: couple of the liberal justices like Soto Mayor very much

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Speaker 11: picked up on that.

879
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Speaker 5: Right. There is Guy Ralford.

880
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 4: He's known as the gun Guy, a Second Amendment attorney

881
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Speaker 4: Ralford R. E. L.

882
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 5: F O. R. D.

883
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 4: Ralford Law dot com is where you find him checking

884
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Speaker 4: out for yourself and founder of the two A Project

885
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 4: is that two a project dot org.

886
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 12: It is dot com dot com. My mistake to have

887
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 12: project dot com. Just that easy guy, always a pleasure.

888
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 12: Moore is coming up on Tony Katz. This is Tony

889
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:30,919
Speaker 12: Kats today.

890
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 11: Financial Americans who think that warrant that the bombing of

891
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 11: Iran was in some way sort of.

892
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 3: Intended to distract Americans from the fsteam piles.

893
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 13: Well, listen, I think we're seeing this pattern right. Trump

894
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 13: has impulsively, he impulsively went in on Venezuela. He impulsively

895
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 13: went in on Iran. There was no exit and no

896
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 13: endgame for either of these situations. It led to increased

897
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 13: global instability everywhere he goes, and every time he's done that,

898
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 13: it has been consistent with a spike or a revelation

899
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 13: in what is happening with the Epstein files.

900
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 4: That's representative Cassio Cortes pretending she's an intellectual. Now ask

901
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 4: her about her position on Taiwan and China. You know

902
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 4: the the I think that Americans they like the idea

903
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 4: that everything's going to be wrapped up.

904
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 5: In a bow.

905
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 4: It's going to it's very it's it's boom, this this

906
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 4: this thing, here's what's going to happen.

907
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 5: Here's how it's going to work. It's very simple. Sometimes

908
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 5: it's not simple.

909
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 4: But when you're engaged in a level of coordination, engaged

910
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 4: in a level of coordination where.

911
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 5: You are.

912
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 4: Taking out the ability for the Chinese to get oil

913
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 4: from Venezuela, taking out the ability for the Chinese to

914
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 4: get oil from now, you're going to eliminate their ability

915
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 4: to connect with having a foothold in the Western Hemisphere

916
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 4: by keeping Cuba at bay. Sounds like a strategy, sounds

917
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 4: like a good one.

918
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 5: Oh is it perfect? Does it all wrap up in

919
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 5: a bow? No? I concur.

920
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 4: But the idea that there's no strategy, I'm not totally

921
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 4: on board with that. And remember Alexander Cassi Cortez wants

922
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 4: to say we're hiding from the Epstein files when more

923
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 4: files got.

924
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Speaker 5: Released today, So silly. This is Tony Kats today.

925
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 4: Caroline Levitt took a stroll, as she did, to meet with.

926
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Speaker 5: The press on Pebble Beach.

927
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 4: That's the area right outside the White House where all

928
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 4: the press is set up and all the cameras are

929
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 4: set up. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today. Good to be here,

930
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 4: Good to be with you. She wants to chat. We

931
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 4: want to hear what she has to say. You've got

932
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 4: the war with Iran. You have got, of course, the inability,

933
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 4: the unwillingness to fund the Department of Homeland Security from

934
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,919
Speaker 4: the Democrats, the firing of Christinome.

935
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Speaker 5: I don't know, can we hear? Do we have this

936
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 5: all set up? No? There it is.

937
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Speaker 4: No.

938
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Speaker 5: I thought we had it. Are you telling me my.

939
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Speaker 4: Microphone isn't working for this because I'm going to go crazy?

940
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 5: No, man, it is not. I'm going to try and

941
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Speaker 5: make it work.

942
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 4: I let me see if I can put it together,

943
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 4: because I want to see what she had to say,

944
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 4: trying to figure out whether or not she's got the answers.

945
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Speaker 5: I thought we had it earlier. No, we do not.

946
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 4: That is nutty right there. We will try and get

947
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 4: it to you.

948
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Speaker 5: As for the firing.

949
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 4: Of Christine, No, we may have very well been on it.

950
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 4: We may have very well been on it when we

951
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:13,800
Speaker 4: said when we shared the clip regarding Senator John Kennedy

952
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 4: that it could have been about the money, the two

953
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 4: hundred and twenty million dollars spent on ads.

954
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 5: Hi, everybody, good to see you.

955
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 4: This could have all been about Meanwhile, let me bring

956
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 4: it back to Caroline Levitt here who started this press

957
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 4: conference there outside with the press corps.

958
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 5: Talking about a whole series of subjects.

959
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Speaker 3: Here.

960
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Speaker 14: It's a busy day here, as you all know, the

961
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 14: President will be meeting with defense contractors here at the

962
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Speaker 14: White House in a few.

963
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 5: Minutes with Secretary Heikeseth.

964
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Speaker 14: This is a pre scheduled meeting and the purpose of

965
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 14: it is to talk about the President's aggressive and fierce

966
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 14: support for rapidly increasing the ability of US manufacturers to

967
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Speaker 14: produce American made weapons, which we know are the best

968
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 14: in the world. The President signed in executive order on

969
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 14: this earlier this year.

970
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 5: This is a long.

971
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Speaker 14: Held policy objective of this administration, and so he'll be

972
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 14: speaking directly with these defense contractors. But of course, as

973
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 14: the President has maintained, we have more than enough ammunitions,

974
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 14: weapons stockpiles to achieve the objectives of Operation Epic Fury

975
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 14: and Beyond.

976
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 5: Now.

977
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Speaker 4: Pete Hegsath has been very clear that of course we

978
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 4: have the firepower. Let's not be ridiculous, And I want

979
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 4: to be clear, of course we have the firepower.

980
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 5: Could we not be ridiculous? Wanting to ensure we have

981
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Speaker 5: the firepower?

982
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 4: I got no issue with that at all, Zero issue

983
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 4: with that. And if you want to engage Defence Production

984
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 4: Act and look at some companies and say hey, let's

985
00:58:56,000 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 4: let's get this going. I think that's fine. I think

986
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 4: it's actually necessary. And I would be incredibly bothered if

987
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 4: it was necessary, and I'd be asking what the hell

988
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 4: we've been spending the money on if we are out

989
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 4: of bullets or bombs, wanting to replace the bullets or bombs.

990
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 5: That I can appreciate.

991
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 4: The questions continued for the Press Secretary since said that is.

992
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 3: We're not going through all of this so that we.

993
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 5: Can end help with a commina.

994
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 3: And he also said that we can keep the sum forever.

995
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,439
Speaker 8: Does that mean that this current mentality in the wrong

996
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 8: remains in place.

997
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 15: You're going to have to keep doing the.

998
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,959
Speaker 14: Find I won't get ahead of the President on broadcasting

999
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 14: any timelines. What I will tell you is what President

1000
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 14: Trump has already laid out, which is that the achievable

1001
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 14: objectives of Operation Epic Fury we expect to last about

1002
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 14: four to six weeks, and we are well on our

1003
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 14: way to achieving those objectives annihilating Aron's Navy. We know

1004
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 14: that we've sunk more than thirty Iranian vessels and ships.

1005
00:59:55,680 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 14: Their navy has now been deemed combat ineffective. Taking the

1006
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 14: ballistic missile threat that Iran posed to the United States

1007
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 14: and our troops and bases in the region, we have

1008
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 14: done a tremendous job. The United States military has done

1009
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 14: a tremendous job at achieving that objective. Thus far, just

1010
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 14: six days in the retaliatory ballistic missile strikes from Iran

1011
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 14: are now down ninety percent. I'm suring Iran can never

1012
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 14: obtain a nuclear weapon as well and significantly weakening their

1013
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 14: proxies in the region, which we know are responsible for

1014
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 14: the deaths of Americans. And we've seen Hesbalah in the

1015
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 14: Huthis hardly putting up a fight over the course of

1016
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 14: the last six days. Ultimately, the President has made it

1017
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 14: very clear he wants to take out the threat of

1018
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 14: Iran to the United States and Operation Epic Fury as.

1019
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 5: Well on its way to doing that.

1020
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 14: As for the future of Iran, as the President has

1021
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 14: pointed to, of course, it's in the best interest to

1022
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 14: the United States of America for Iran to no longer

1023
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 14: be led by a radical terrorist regime that chants death

1024
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 14: to America. And is lying to the United States in

1025
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 14: the world about their secret ambitions to possess a nuclear bomb.

1026
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 14: President Trump does not want to see that. He wants

1027
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 14: to take an interest in pursuing who the next leader

1028
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 14: of the Iranian country is going to be. And that

1029
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 14: has yet to be seen, and the President is discussing

1030
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 14: it and deliberating it now.

1031
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 4: She sidestepped the idea of rebuilding. It should the President

1032
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 4: should come out clearly, they've got oil money. We're going

1033
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 4: to get that oil to the market, no more sanctions

1034
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 4: on that. They're gonna be a very rich country and

1035
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 4: they'll be able to pay for their rebuilding. And then

1036
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 4: he's going to follow it up with are we taking bets?

1037
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 4: Are we taking bets?

1038
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 5: Guys? Because here's what he's going to follow it up with.

1039
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 4: He's going to follow it up with, and we've got

1040
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 4: some great American companies.

1041
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 5: That will be able to help them rebuild.

1042
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:50,479
Speaker 4: Is anybody questioning that, Because if you're questioning that, you're

1043
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 4: you're out of your mind if you're questioning that. The

1044
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 4: conversations about Iran continued, and Caroline Levitt was very clear

1045
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 4: that we are absolutely decimating these people.

1046
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 13: Well, really, what this is part you just said on

1047
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 13: Fox that it doesn't really matter if you want to

1048
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 13: be full wrong creaking about military hassens.

1049
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 8: Why does it matter if as military is in a

1050
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 8: neighbor by run friend with alfas fred Of believes as well.

1051
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 14: What I meant, Kristen, and thank you for giving me

1052
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 14: a chance to make it very clear, is that it

1053
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 14: clearly is not making a difference with respect to the

1054
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 14: military operations in Iran because we are completely decimating them.

1055
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 14: As I said earlier, We've taken out nearly thirty of

1056
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 14: their ships. Their navy has been deemed combat ineffective, ninety

1057
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 14: percent reduction in ballistic missile retaliatory strikes against the United

1058
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 14: States and our Gulf Arab and partners in the region.

1059
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 14: So of course we are achieving the military objectives of

1060
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 14: this operation, and that is going to continue because the

1061
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 14: United States military is the best and most lethal fighting

1062
01:02:58,520 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 14: force in the world.

1063
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 5: We know this. But I want to be clear, decimated

1064
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 5: is not the right term here. It's the term she.

1065
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 4: Used, but as a matter of just words have meaning,

1066
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 4: decimate would be ten percent DESI. The Iranian navy, as reported,

1067
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 4: has ninety active vessels in twenty twenty six seven frigates,

1068
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 4: three corvettes, six submarines, which I assume are Russian submarines.

1069
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 4: You've got twenty four amphibious ships, twenty one patrol boats,

1070
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 4: and seventeen supporting auxiliary ships.

1071
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 5: So take the seventeen right out and now you're down

1072
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 5: to eighty three.

1073
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 4: The patrol boats can fire, but they're certainly not going

1074
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 4: to do anything against some of our hardware. So could

1075
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 4: we argue that you take the twenty one, but you

1076
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 4: not leave the twenty one in. Leave the twenty one in.

1077
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 4: They've got ninety you take out the seventeen. That's seventy three.

1078
01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 4: We've taken out thirty ships. That leaves them forty read ships.

1079
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 4: That's way more than decimated. Just for the sake of clarity,

1080
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 4: for understanding words, that's what it is. We have seen

1081
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 4: that we have air why not what a general referred

1082
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 4: to I believe as a general referred to as superiority.

1083
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 5: We have air supremacy going on.

1084
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 4: The only question is at what moment does the Iranian

1085
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 4: regime collapse? At what moment do you break the IRGC.

1086
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 4: This is the only thing for us to discuss. If

1087
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 4: the argument is going to be they are shooting less

1088
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 4: and less missiles every day, because they have less and

1089
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 4: less missiles to shoot, because we take out their their

1090
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 4: mobile launchers, because we take out their sites, because we

1091
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 4: take out their people, because we take out their command

1092
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 4: and control. We have control theiratellites, we've controlled their television.

1093
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 4: We could broadcast anything we choose, we can share anything.

1094
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 4: We can win the propaganda war. At what moment, then

1095
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Speaker 4: do we discuss the breaking of the IRGC, the Islamic

1096
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 4: Revolutionary guardcore. We have been talking about this since the

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Speaker 4: beginning because we understood the focus of what has to happen.

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Speaker 4: But when Trump says he wants a hand and picking

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Speaker 4: the new leader, and when he says he wants unconditional surrender,

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Speaker 4: what I am hearing and I'm willing to admit what

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Speaker 4: I am hoping.

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Speaker 5: I am not so naive to think.

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Speaker 4: That I'm going to get what I want and that

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Speaker 4: everybody's talking about the same things.

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Speaker 5: What I am hoping is what he is saying. What

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Speaker 5: the President is saying is no part of the current

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Speaker 5: regime will be part of new leadership. That's over.

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Speaker 4: That is the only way this works. Absolutely, no part

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Speaker 4: of the Iranian regime is life. No one who is

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Speaker 4: lamis looking. No one who is eastward looking. None of

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Speaker 4: that Persia must be persia again. Caroline Levitt was also

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Speaker 4: asked about the firing of Christinome and the soon to

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Speaker 4: be confirmation fight for Republican Senator Mark Wayne Mullen of Oklahoma,

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Speaker 4: who has been nominated to replace Gnome as the Secretary

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Speaker 4: of Homeland Security created on.

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Speaker 16: The President's decision at at Mark WWAYN Mullen as the

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Speaker 16: next DHS Secretary, Can you talk a little bit about

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Speaker 16: the rationale for the choice, why Mullen was the best

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Speaker 16: candidate in his eyes, and also your message to Congressional

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Speaker 16: Democrats who continue to keep the DHS on pundon.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: Well, Senator Mark Wayne Mullen has been a strong friend

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Speaker 14: of the President and a big supporter of the President's

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Speaker 14: immigration policies.

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Speaker 5: Not only that, he's.

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Speaker 14: Exceptionally talented, qualified, and I know well respected by his

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Speaker 14: peers on Capitol Hill from both sides of the aisle.

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Speaker 14: So we look forward to his expeditious confirmation, and I

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Speaker 14: know the White House will be working with our Let's

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Speaker 14: be clear.

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Speaker 4: This is not going to be an expeditious confirmation. I

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Speaker 4: just please please don't try and sell me that this

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Speaker 4: is going to be painful and stupid, which is actually

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Speaker 4: the name of my new book about the squad. It

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Speaker 4: is going to be awful for no reason awful. It

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Speaker 4: is going to be the worst. Of course, he should

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Speaker 4: be confirmed. There's no reason he shouldn't be confirmed. None.

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Speaker 4: But it's gonna be nine hundred questions about what are

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Speaker 4: you going to do about ICE? How are you going

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Speaker 4: to handle ICE? Why is about ICE? And do you

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Speaker 4: think they're going to believe any answer he gives, Because

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Speaker 4: if I'm Mark way Mullen, if I'm advising Mark wayn Mullen,

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Speaker 4: I answer the following.

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Speaker 5: ICE is going to.

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Speaker 4: Continue doing its job and removing every illegal imigrants anywhere

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Speaker 4: they are, regardless of what they claim and regardless of

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Speaker 4: their family life, they're being removed.

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Speaker 5: We can do this humanly, we can do this well.

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Speaker 5: We can do this.

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Speaker 4: Respectfully within the confines of the law, protecting every member

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Speaker 4: of ICE and law enforcement first and foremost. If that

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Speaker 4: is not to your liking, Senator Democrat, sucks to be you.

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Speaker 5: It's going to be.

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Speaker 4: It's going to be a clown show. I have to

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Speaker 4: cover it, don't I Yeah, I do. I'm Tony Katz.

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Speaker 4: This is Tony Katz today, I'm going to dig more

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Speaker 4: into this pole with you. It's going to come back

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Speaker 4: up more than more than once. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today,

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Speaker 4: Good to be here, Good to be with you.

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Speaker 17: This was a Fox News poll, and the Fox News

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Speaker 17: poll asks a question.

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Speaker 5: Would it be a good thing or a bad thing.

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Speaker 4: For the US to move away from capitalism and more

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Speaker 4: towards socialism.

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Speaker 5: The idea that that question gets.

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Speaker 4: Asked just freaks me out to no end. What came

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Speaker 4: from this is that sixty one percent said it would

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Speaker 4: be a bad thing, a bad thing if you had

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Speaker 4: a drift to socialism. Thirty eight percent said it would

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Speaker 4: be a good thing. And that children is a massive problem, incredible,

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Speaker 4: incredible problem.

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Speaker 5: You got to stop sending your kids to public school.

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Speaker 4: You got to keep an eye on what's going on

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Speaker 4: with your kids at all times.

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Speaker 5: What's happening when it comes to the universities.

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Speaker 4: This is horrifying, considering socialism never created anything and capitalism

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Speaker 4: creates nothing but opportunities and happiness.

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Speaker 5: This is absolute madness.

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Speaker 4: And it's scary. It is unbelievably scary to witness that

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Speaker 4: this could be the that this is where Americans are

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Speaker 4: at But I say to you that it's fixable. Changes

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Speaker 4: in education. And these changes in education also mean I

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Speaker 4: don't want to hear about how teachers need to get

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Speaker 4: paid more.

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Speaker 5: Not when you're indoctrinating kids.

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Speaker 18: No no, no no no no no no no no no

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Speaker 18: no no no. We don't pay you more for that.

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Speaker 18: We break the teachers' unions. We don't need you. We'll

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Speaker 18: go about creating other schools, will hire teachers.

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Speaker 4: And they'll actually teach math and science and English, and

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Speaker 4: that'll be it. That's enough to frightening, bit upolling, but

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Speaker 4: it is fixable.

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Speaker 5: Keep it here. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 1: Line from Baal Heartland and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 5: It's Tony catch today. The job's report is out and.

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Speaker 4: It kind of stinks. I mean, I guess you could

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Speaker 4: find good in anything, but when you see jobs in

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Speaker 4: February falling ninety two thousand compared to annestment of fifty thousand,

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Speaker 4: and you have a downward revision of January losing jobs.

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Speaker 5: But Tony, we keep.

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Speaker 4: Talking about Ai Ai Ai, Ai, the other Ai, your mother,

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Speaker 4: everything's Ai. We don't have people we've got Ai we've

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Speaker 4: got data centers having all the jobs. Isn't that like

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Speaker 4: acceptable because creative destruction? Isn't that what people would say? Maybe,

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Speaker 4: but it still doesn't look good. Unemployment is up again

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Speaker 4: the AI. When you're running for reelection, when you're running

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Speaker 4: to win the midterms, these are not the things you want.

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Speaker 5: And add this into a situation.

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Speaker 4: Regarding a ran where you now have oil that hit

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Speaker 4: over ninety dollars a barrel on the Brent crude coming

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Speaker 4: out of the oceans, it gives a lot of ammunition

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Speaker 4: for the other side. For us, we only have to

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Speaker 4: ask what it means. Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, good

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Speaker 4: to be with you. Doctor Matt will is here economists

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Speaker 4: at the University of Indianapolis. You know, I forgot it's

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Speaker 4: the first Friday of the month, the jobs numbers coming out.

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Speaker 4: I am now looking at everything with this giant grain

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Speaker 4: assault because of AI.

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Speaker 5: But it still doesn't change.

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Speaker 4: Where media will push things and we have to understand

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Speaker 4: what these things are really saying to us.

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Speaker 5: So give me the low lights and the.

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Speaker 4: Possible highlights of this latest job report which has unemployment

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Speaker 4: now at four point four percent.

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Speaker 15: Well, first of all, I have to give you a

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Speaker 15: tremendous credit for referring to creative destruction, because that's exactly

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Speaker 15: what's happened. That is, for people out there that want

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Speaker 15: to look it up to the guy named Joseph Schumpater

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Speaker 15: developed that phrase, and he talked about transitions and you

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Speaker 15: have to transition into the next phase of the economy,

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Speaker 15: and that's what we're seeing here. You can describe it perfectly, Tony.

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Speaker 15: This is an AI report, and it's a report that

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Speaker 15: I said last time when we spoke about this was

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Speaker 15: going to continue. We're transitioning away from the traditional economy

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Speaker 15: that we've seen into the next phase, which is an

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Speaker 15: AI driven You're going to have transitional unemployment. It's not bad. Yes,

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Speaker 15: ninety two thousand people. That's bad, especially when the goal

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Speaker 15: was you know that the estimate was fifty So we

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Speaker 15: see one hundred and twenty plus thousand swing. That is

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Speaker 15: not insignificant. So those people, you know, we got to

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Speaker 15: be understanding. They've lost their jobs. But if you look

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Speaker 15: in the report, let me tell you where the nugget

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Speaker 15: of good news is. Okay, every category was down. That's

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Speaker 15: not the good news, except for two wholesale and financial services. Wholesale.

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Speaker 15: That's the nugget of good news. It's consistent with the

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Speaker 15: ISM report we saw the other day that manufacturing is up.

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Speaker 15: When manufacturing is up, when we're producing more stuff now

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Speaker 15: with AI. So the actual manufacturing workers are dropped, which

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Speaker 15: is consistent with the ISM report, but the distribution of

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Speaker 15: those goods the wholesale is up. That means that we're

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Speaker 15: making a lot more stuff and we're sending it out

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Speaker 15: to the world. That is good news. We're going through

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Speaker 15: a tough period of transition. People have to just understand that,

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Speaker 15: and it's going to continue. I got to give Trump

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Speaker 15: a lot of credit here because he's doing a few

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Speaker 15: things that are not good politically but are good economically.

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Speaker 15: He's the one who set the stage to allow this

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Speaker 15: AI transition. He's growing our economy by leaps and bounds.

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Speaker 15: He's growing manufacturing, but people get laid off and they're voters,

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Speaker 15: so it's not in his best interest. But it's a

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Speaker 15: good report if you look at the transition, not the

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Speaker 15: today numbers.

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Speaker 4: Talking to doctor Matt Well, economist at the University of Indianapolis,

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Speaker 4: so yes, this idea that AI is going to change things,

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Speaker 4: but it doesn't change things in the eyes of the American.

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Speaker 5: People right away.

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Speaker 4: And we still have to accept the fact that while

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Speaker 4: the AI might be doing the work of people for people,

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Speaker 4: twenty two people, those twenty two people still need to

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Speaker 4: be out there creating. Does the economists to look at

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Speaker 4: the creation as an overall number or does it take

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Speaker 4: a look at who does the creating, the individual, the

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Speaker 4: person versus the machine.

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Speaker 15: You know, that's a good question. And this is where

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Speaker 15: I'm going to, you know, talk about I'm a financial economist,

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Speaker 15: not a traditional economist, because traditional economics doesn't look at that.

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Speaker 15: Traditional economics is knesy in and they say, oh, government's

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Speaker 15: spending good, job loss bad. But in finance, we care

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Speaker 15: about where the job comes from. We care if it's

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Speaker 15: a government job or a private job. And so yes,

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Speaker 15: in the financial markets we see that there is this

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Speaker 15: transition and we're okay. God, that sounds terrible, doesn't it.

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Speaker 15: We're not okay with the loss of jobs, but we're

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Speaker 15: okay with the transition. And what's going to happen because

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Speaker 15: of his deregulation, because of his one big beautiful bill,

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Speaker 15: because of the tax incentives, and I can give you

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Speaker 15: a whole list of other deregulation and executive orders. These

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Speaker 15: people who have lost their jobs are going to have opportunities.

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Speaker 15: These in the new economy. And I hate that phrase. Also,

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Speaker 15: that's the kind of a buzzphrase, the new economy. But

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Speaker 15: it is going to be new.

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Speaker 4: So now we take a look at the new This

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Speaker 4: is the way it is. The argument is, hey, we're

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Speaker 4: still generating wealth and that's all that matters. In the

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Speaker 4: generating wealth is going to create other opportunities. How does

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Speaker 4: it do so? I mean, just as a matter of

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Speaker 4: how does the economists view it doing so?

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Speaker 5: If the future job does not involve people.

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Speaker 15: Okay, it will involve people. So let me say how

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Speaker 15: the financial economists use it. We have a pie in

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Speaker 15: this pie, and if everyone can visualize, there's the needs

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Speaker 15: and the ones. And as we evolve into this new economy,

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Speaker 15: the cost of your needs will shrink. Will be spending

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Speaker 15: less money on what you need and more money available

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Speaker 15: for what you want. So in this report financial services

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Speaker 15: are growing. We see other than for the war, the

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Speaker 15: market's growing wealth is being created. Well, what's that mean?

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Speaker 15: That means that somebody, some fantastic entrepreneur, a creative destroyer,

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Speaker 15: as Schumpeter called it is going to want to get

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Speaker 15: those dollars. They're going to innovate. They're going to create

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Speaker 15: something new, which means they're going to have to hire

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Speaker 15: people and they're going to have to train them to

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Speaker 15: do the skills that are needed for that job. Tony,

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Speaker 15: I can't tell you how excited I am to see

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Speaker 15: this transition in the economy. I know it's painful, but

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Speaker 15: we saw it in the Internet when it was invented.

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Speaker 15: You know, we are on the We have a front

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Speaker 15: row seat to a transitioning economy into the next phase.

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Speaker 15: That doesn't happen very many times in your lifetime. And

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Speaker 15: you and I are going to see it twice.

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Speaker 4: Yes, But when we get to see it afterwards, if

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Speaker 4: so facto we get to see the results being in

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Speaker 4: its very difficult for a whole bunch of people who

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Speaker 4: are affected by it.

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Speaker 15: It is Tony, I have tremendous empathy for those individuals. Now,

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Speaker 15: that's a separate discussion beyond economics and finance. How do

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Speaker 15: we handle that transition? Now there are people on the

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Speaker 15: left who say, well, the gov needs a step in

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Speaker 15: and they need to do everything and provide a safety net.

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Speaker 15: And there's people on the right who believe no, it's

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Speaker 15: the role of private charities and private industry to retrain

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Speaker 15: these people. But I don't believe that the solution is

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Speaker 15: for the government to step in. But that's a legitimate

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Speaker 15: debate about how do you manage a transition. But we

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Speaker 15: cannot stop the transition. We must let it occur if

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Speaker 15: we went to advance in society.

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Speaker 4: Talking to doctor Matt Well, economists at the University of Indianapolis,

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Speaker 4: when I see unemployment at four point four percent, I

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01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 4: don't know what to really do sometimes with the unemployment

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Speaker 4: number because very often this number does not include people

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Speaker 4: who have walked away from.

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Speaker 5: The job force all together. And that is also we

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01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:39,839
Speaker 5: should be asking ourselves.

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Speaker 4: You know, there's this interesting report about four oh one

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Speaker 4: k's that four to one k's are up overall. The

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01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 4: average balance is now one hundred and forty six four

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01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:52,680
Speaker 4: hundred dollars. It rows eleven percent in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 4: The number of four to one k millionaires is now

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Speaker 4: six hundred and sixty five thousand as of the fourth

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Speaker 4: quarter twenty twenty five, and that number is up from

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Speaker 4: five hundred and thirty seven thousand, four oh one k

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01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 4: millionaires just a year ago. But we also see people

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01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 4: taking from their four oh one k. Now six percent

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01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 4: of people taking hardship withdrawals from their.

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Speaker 5: Four oh one ks.

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Speaker 4: So, as an overall look at the economy, the unemployment number,

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Speaker 4: this four oh one K number. Is this a strong economy?

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Speaker 4: Is this an on its way economy? Or is this

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Speaker 4: a teetering economy?

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Speaker 15: No, it is, it's an on its way economy that's

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Speaker 15: in transition. You know, you made a good point about

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Speaker 15: the unemployment rate four point four. What's that mean? It

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Speaker 15: doesn't include things. There's a number, and I apologize I

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Speaker 15: didn't look it up before we spoke, called the U

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01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 15: six number. It's in the same report. You just have

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Speaker 15: to dig down and find it. The U six number

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01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:48,599
Speaker 15: is a more accurate measurement of employment, and it's higher.

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Speaker 15: We see that. And what you just said about people

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Speaker 15: tapping in their four oh one k, that's a reflection

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Speaker 15: of the U six number. So four oh one K

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01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:02,000
Speaker 15: values are up. Why because of this expanding, growing economy

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Speaker 15: that the wealth is being created. We see it, you

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01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 15: cited the statistics, but we also see the transition into

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Speaker 15: a new economy, and therefore people are capping into that

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Speaker 15: four oh one k those folks who are in the transition.

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Speaker 15: All the data is consistent. It's all consistent with a

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Speaker 15: wealth producing, growing, transitioning economy. Every piece of data is

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Speaker 15: consistent on this.

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Speaker 5: By the way, I did the AI search for the

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Speaker 5: U six.

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Speaker 4: According to the AI machine, the U six and February

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty six is eight point seven percent.

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Speaker 15: Okay, that's the number you used to rely on. That

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Speaker 15: is a legit. I trust that number better than the

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Speaker 15: one that's on the headline.

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Speaker 4: But do I concern myself because that says unemployment save

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Speaker 4: point seven percent.

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01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 5: Shouldn't everybody be freaking out?

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Speaker 4: Their hair is on fire, the sky is falling, We're

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01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 4: all gonna die.

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Speaker 5: Like isn't that a horrifying number.

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Speaker 15: It is a very bad number. And guess what, it's

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Speaker 15: a necessary. Back in the early twentieth century, we had

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Speaker 15: people walking around saying, oh, that darn car industry. Look

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01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 15: at all the horse and buggy makers. They're getting put

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Speaker 15: out of business. We got to stop this. No, it's okay,

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01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 15: it's okay. The horse and buggy industry had to leave,

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01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:18,600
Speaker 15: and the car industry was very successful for the economy.

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Speaker 15: We're doing it again. That's perfectly fine, it's not comfortable,

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Speaker 15: and I think the discussion is not a financial economic discussion.

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01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 15: It's a social discussion, which is how do we manage

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01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 15: and help the people through this transition? And what is

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01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 15: that legitimate?

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01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:35,280
Speaker 5: Doesn't matter?

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01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 4: Are we just does that get helped in the world

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01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 4: of manufacturing? Does it get helped in the world a service.

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Speaker 5: I know a lot of.

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Speaker 4: People used to talk to on the fact, especially eighties, nineties,

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01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:45,720
Speaker 4: early two thousands, were the service economy. That's what we

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Speaker 4: want to be. Let other people make the things. I

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01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:49,920
Speaker 4: always thought that was an insane thought. Why can't we

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01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:52,719
Speaker 4: build things some people want to build? It's not about

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01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 4: just servicing all these things all the time. And I

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01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:58,759
Speaker 4: think you need to have a proper mix. Those people

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01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:01,680
Speaker 4: who have been removed move from their positions because of

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01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:06,800
Speaker 4: AI and might not be in the reskill pool to

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01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 4: get into other fields. What are the kind of jobs

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01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 4: that we want to see America create in order to

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01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 4: help them through that will also provide value long term

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01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 4: to the nation.

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Speaker 15: Okay, I don't want to give you a big picture answer.

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01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:24,799
Speaker 15: I want to give you a specific, sure answer. Okay,

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01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 15: in my institution where I teach, two years ago, we're

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01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 15: teaching people in supply chain management to go into factories

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01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 15: and produce goods. Today in that exact same major, we're

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01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 15: teaching the students how to train an AI to do

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01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 15: the thing that they were doing two years ago. We

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01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 15: are teaching our students to develop it. And you're thinking, well,

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01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:46,640
Speaker 15: that's going to lose jobs. No, yes, you're going to

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01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:48,760
Speaker 15: lose a job on the front end, but you're going

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01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:51,639
Speaker 15: to make jobs on the back end because your company

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01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 15: will grow. So you're going to have instead of five employees,

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01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:58,679
Speaker 15: you're going to have seven. But of the five only

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01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:00,600
Speaker 15: maybe one or two will be doing the main manufacturing.

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01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 15: The rest will be training the new AI. So we

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01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:06,759
Speaker 15: and I've redesigned three of my classes to be almost

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01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:10,720
Speaker 15: entirely AI driven because that's what the economy needs. So

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01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 15: we have to train people to make stuff. You're right,

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01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:16,600
Speaker 15: but you don't make it by sticking the screwdriver in

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01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:18,920
Speaker 15: a hole. Now you make it by training the machine

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01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:19,400
Speaker 15: that doesn't.

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Speaker 4: And is there a belief that's that that retraining can

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01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:29,920
Speaker 4: work for a large segment of population or does the

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01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 4: economist I'm not saying you're cold hearted, I'm not putting

1445
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 4: this all on you. Does the economists not worry about

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01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:40,639
Speaker 4: that part of it, you know, you.

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01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:45,759
Speaker 15: Mean the pure you know, utilitarian economist doesn't think about

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01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 15: that part. That's why I said a moment ago, we

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01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 15: have to have a discussion on the social implications of

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01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 15: this and how do we get through it? You know,

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01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:56,760
Speaker 15: you say frequently we must get through this. This is

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01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 15: one of those things. We've got to get through it,

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01:24:58,320 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 15: and we need to sit around and have a topic

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01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:02,280
Speaker 15: in a discussion and say how do we get through it.

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01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 15: We can't deny it, we can't put a roadblock up

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01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 15: and stop it. We just have to figure out how

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01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:08,839
Speaker 15: to get through it. And that's less of an economic

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01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 15: discussion and more of a social discussion. Provided the answer

1459
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 15: isn't throwing roadblocks in front of the economy. That is

1460
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 15: not the solution. To keep us making horse and buggies

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01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 15: instead of cars is not the solution.

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Speaker 4: Before I let you go, is there anything about this

1463
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 4: report that you should that you look at.

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01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 5: And say, well, that's an awesome piece of news.

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01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 15: I do. I like that the financial services segment and

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01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:34,800
Speaker 15: the wholesale segment I mentioned at the very beginning, those

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01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:36,720
Speaker 15: are growing. And even though I've already said I want

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01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 15: to leave people with that. That tells us that the

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01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:43,320
Speaker 15: manufacturing people are doing well. Now. Yes, the people on

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01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 15: the front line are not are there are fewer of them,

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01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 15: but the ones making the product out the door and

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01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 15: getting it to the customer. There's a lot of those

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01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 15: folks being hired right now. And financial services is where

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01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 15: the transition occurs from the old economy to the new economy,

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01:25:57,400 --> 01:25:59,599
Speaker 15: because it needs to transition the money from the old

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01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 15: to the new. There's good news to be seen in this,

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01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 15: but it's a tough report, Tony.

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01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 4: I'm not going to lie, doctor Matt Will, economist at

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01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:10,480
Speaker 4: the University of Indianapolis.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate you taking the time to break that down

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Speaker 5: with us.

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Speaker 4: More coming up. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today.

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01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:17,960
Speaker 4: So while rational people are going to be taking a

1484
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:22,600
Speaker 4: look at what's going on in Iran, Democrats are going

1485
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:26,760
Speaker 4: to say, oh, look Epstein, Well that's what they're going

1486
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 4: to say, Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, Good to be

1487
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 4: with you. I want the full release of the Epstein files.

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01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 4: And I say that the Trump administration handled.

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01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 5: This wrong from the beginning. You know where I'm at

1490
01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:39,599
Speaker 5: on this. I said that clearly for.

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Speaker 4: Months now, the DOJ, according to News Nation, published the

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01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 4: missing Epstein files that include the Trump allegations.

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01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:51,800
Speaker 5: Okay, so now we're done. Now we're all done.

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01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 4: The Department said that these files were quote incorrectly coded

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01:26:56,040 --> 01:27:05,599
Speaker 4: as duplicative. Stop it, stop it. It was Pam Bondi

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01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:10,080
Speaker 4: being an absolute moron. I said the words, there's nothing

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01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 4: to hide. Trump can't get hurt by this. So what

1498
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 4: are you doing? But Trump is the guy who said

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01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 4: this stuff doesn't matter, and it absolutely did. And you

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01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 4: had his sick offen supporter saying it doesn't matter, and

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01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:26,759
Speaker 4: the answer is, oh, yes it did. Pam Bondy didn't

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01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 4: know how to handle it. She doesn't know how to

1503
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:33,720
Speaker 4: handle much. It's super disappointing. She's disappointing. I oh, I

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01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 4: had high hopes, high hopes for Pam Bondy. Didn't get there,

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01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:40,640
Speaker 4: did not get there. Some people I didn't know what

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01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 4: to expect. And I've been outrageously surprised.

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01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 5: I keep saying it.

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01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 4: Sean duffy Man Transportation, it's rock solid. Rubio I expected

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01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:52,599
Speaker 4: to be solid. I think other people are surprised he's

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01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 4: so good. I think if you've paid attention to Ruby

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01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 4: over the years. Only when he ran for president and

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01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:00,559
Speaker 4: he tried to go tow for toe with Trump and

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01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:03,960
Speaker 4: be something he wasn't, he failed. You can't be the

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01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 4: thing that you're not. You have a natural way of

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01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 4: handling yourself. You got to be able to utilize that

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01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:12,960
Speaker 4: to your advantage. You got to be able to rock

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01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 4: and roll with it. Some people were just unable to

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01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 4: deal with Trump's insanity by being themselves. He tried a

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01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 4: system and it didn't work right. He tried to go

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01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:26,639
Speaker 4: for the attack methodology. Your ability, Marco, is that you're

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01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 4: smarter and you can explain something with less words than

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01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 4: any person I may have ever met. It's spectacular, good stuff,

1523
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:40,200
Speaker 4: Lots of good cabinet members. Everybody's still going after Hegseth.

1524
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:43,719
Speaker 4: Hegseth has been just fine. Little hiccups here and there.

1525
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 4: Certainly a mistake with the signal app has overcome all

1526
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:49,759
Speaker 4: of it because the operational skill set of the Pentagon,

1527
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:53,439
Speaker 4: keeping secrets, keeping things quiet, misdirection has been amazing.

1528
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 5: They screwed up Epstein Man, they screwed it up.

1529
01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:03,120
Speaker 4: Now, the relief of the files is only going to

1530
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 4: push people to continue for more of the allegations, which

1531
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 4: are untrue.

1532
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:12,680
Speaker 5: We already know that they are unfounded. There's no corroboration

1533
01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:18,240
Speaker 5: to Trump and underage girls, absolutely none. It's not going

1534
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:20,559
Speaker 5: to stop the left from screaming pedophile. It's what they

1535
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:21,880
Speaker 5: do now.

1536
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 4: Bill Clinton, Oh, there's a lot to talk about, not

1537
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 4: with Hillary, and I never would have expected it from Hillary.

1538
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 5: And again you take a look at her deposition and

1539
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:34,479
Speaker 5: you realize that, I think there are.

1540
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:36,800
Speaker 4: Some things you can go back and question and go over,

1541
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 4: but there was some of it that was just meant

1542
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 4: to insult her. And if I'm going to insult her,

1543
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:47,320
Speaker 4: it's based on policy and radical ineptitude, and of course

1544
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 4: just her progressive bona fides. It isn't about something that

1545
01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:54,080
Speaker 4: Bill did with some other woman. That's not the stuff

1546
01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:56,760
Speaker 4: we should be going after. There's so much to go

1547
01:29:56,880 --> 01:30:00,960
Speaker 4: after now, Bill and young girls in hot go after

1548
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 4: all of it. And the fact that he's looking at

1549
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:06,200
Speaker 4: these photos and he's kind of smiling, He's like, oh,

1550
01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:10,599
Speaker 4: that was a great time. That was a great dude.

1551
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:12,880
Speaker 4: He is what he is what he is, and I

1552
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 4: do think he lied under oath. He was asked, have

1553
01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:18,960
Speaker 4: you ever lied in the deposition? He's like, no, what

1554
01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:22,680
Speaker 4: it can Starr prosecute for of course you lied regarding

1555
01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:27,840
Speaker 4: Monica Lewinski. Of course you lied. You fraud going after him?

1556
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 4: Totally fine and rational. He knows things. He is a

1557
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 4: real issue with Epstein. He is a problem. Bill Gates

1558
01:30:40,479 --> 01:30:45,559
Speaker 4: is a problem. Investigate these people up and down. Not

1559
01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:49,520
Speaker 4: because I'm saying just go after somebody. There is already

1560
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:52,360
Speaker 4: enough to make you believe that there's an issue.

1561
01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:53,759
Speaker 5: You don't have it. On Trump.

1562
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:57,559
Speaker 4: You've got silly allegations that have already been proven to

1563
01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:01,960
Speaker 4: be nonsense, with no corroboration whatsoever. Bill Clinton, you have

1564
01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:04,280
Speaker 4: a painting of him in a blue dress in Jeffrey

1565
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:08,200
Speaker 4: Epstein's home. Is there anything else we need to discuss? Yes,

1566
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 4: Iran and what's going on? And how easily this will

1567
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:14,400
Speaker 4: all be won? Can it be done in five weeks?

1568
01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:17,520
Speaker 4: Can you replace? Can you actually put a new leadership?

1569
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 4: These are the questions. If you don't have answers today,

1570
01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:21,559
Speaker 4: we're gonna have to start.

1571
01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 5: To ask you a little more about this next week.

1572
01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:26,479
Speaker 5: We really are, and we will, we will, I will

1573
01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:27,160
Speaker 5: get more into it.

1574
01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:27,599
Speaker 19: Keep it here.

1575
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:30,160
Speaker 5: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today.

1576
01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:38,680
Speaker 4: So it's Mark Wayne Mullen, the senator from Oklahoma, the

1577
01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:42,000
Speaker 4: pick to replace Christy Nome, Tony Katz, Tony kats today.

1578
01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:46,599
Speaker 4: Good to be here, Good to be with you, And well,

1579
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:48,719
Speaker 4: I think I think he's pleased.

1580
01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:54,519
Speaker 5: I think he's happy about this opportunity. Who wouldn't be.

1581
01:31:56,240 --> 01:32:00,679
Speaker 5: And he was outside of the Capitol and.

1582
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 4: Was asked about it, like, hey, uh, did you know

1583
01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:05,000
Speaker 4: that this was.

1584
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:05,679
Speaker 5: Coming your way?

1585
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:08,720
Speaker 20: Listen, I am super excited about this opportunity.

1586
01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:11,439
Speaker 5: It came at a not.

1587
01:32:11,439 --> 01:32:13,200
Speaker 20: A complete surprise, but it came at a little bit

1588
01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:16,160
Speaker 20: of surprise for us. And so the President. If you

1589
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:18,960
Speaker 20: guys know, we're great friends and we get along great.

1590
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:20,639
Speaker 20: I look forward to working with him in his cabinet.

1591
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:22,880
Speaker 20: Of course, from Star gottaid this little thing called confirmation,

1592
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:25,280
Speaker 20: and we're going to get started on right away.

1593
01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:26,840
Speaker 5: Tell me about.

1594
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:29,800
Speaker 20: You guys that you guys have been with me long enough,

1595
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:31,280
Speaker 20: asked me enough questions. You know I don't share a

1596
01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:31,920
Speaker 20: private conversation.

1597
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:33,000
Speaker 3: Are you tell me your reaction?

1598
01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:35,000
Speaker 5: Tell me your reaction into the White House today.

1599
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:36,960
Speaker 3: I don't think I'm going today. I think I need

1600
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:37,880
Speaker 3: to talk to my wife first.

1601
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:42,280
Speaker 12: Can you tell us your reaction when you got the

1602
01:32:42,439 --> 01:32:43,400
Speaker 12: phone call from him.

1603
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:46,200
Speaker 5: I was excited. I mean, I mean you saw his

1604
01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:46,719
Speaker 5: name calling.

1605
01:32:47,160 --> 01:32:48,800
Speaker 20: Well it came from the White House, it came from

1606
01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:52,599
Speaker 20: the switchboard, But I was excited. I at the President first.

1607
01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:55,599
Speaker 20: All the President I have a really good relationship when

1608
01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:58,800
Speaker 20: we talk all the time. Anyways, I wasn't I've got

1609
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:00,639
Speaker 20: to be honest with I wasn't expecting the call today,

1610
01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:02,559
Speaker 20: but super excited.

1611
01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:04,479
Speaker 3: And I'm and I'm more excited about just ready to

1612
01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:05,000
Speaker 3: get started.

1613
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:06,479
Speaker 20: There's a lot of work we can do to get

1614
01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:09,720
Speaker 20: Apartment of Homeland Security working, you know, working for the

1615
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:13,519
Speaker 20: American people. You know, farmer homeland security. Jud hasn't very

1616
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:17,639
Speaker 20: broad jurisdiction, and I think there's a lot of work

1617
01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:18,000
Speaker 20: that we.

1618
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:19,880
Speaker 3: Need to do, and I'm excited about.

1619
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:21,680
Speaker 5: It's going to vote for you.

1620
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:23,479
Speaker 3: Do you expect other Democrats to vote for you?

1621
01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:27,080
Speaker 20: I John already texts me, and of course you guys

1622
01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 20: know John and our friends too, and so I don't know.

1623
01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:31,880
Speaker 20: We're we're going to try to earn everybody's vote. I

1624
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:34,720
Speaker 20: want people to understand I'm not when I go into

1625
01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:38,080
Speaker 20: this position. Yes I'm a Republican, Yes I'm conservative, but

1626
01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:40,400
Speaker 20: Department Home and Security is to keep everybody, regardless you

1627
01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:43,000
Speaker 20: support me, if you don't support me, regardless of what

1628
01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:45,800
Speaker 20: your thoughts are. I'm here to enforce the policies that

1629
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:48,840
Speaker 20: Congress passed, and right now I'm part of it. But

1630
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:52,400
Speaker 20: once I make that transition, my focus is to keep

1631
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:55,240
Speaker 20: the homeland secure. That's going to be my focus. And

1632
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:57,320
Speaker 20: we're super excited.

1633
01:33:57,040 --> 01:34:00,559
Speaker 4: About this open it's smart answer, it's the right answer. Hey,

1634
01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:02,680
Speaker 4: I'm hoping to get Democrat votes. I'm not going to

1635
01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:04,760
Speaker 4: comment on which Democrats are going to vote for me

1636
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:08,120
Speaker 4: or not, because I don't know if everybody, every Republican

1637
01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:09,680
Speaker 4: is going to vote for them. But remember you've got

1638
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:12,519
Speaker 4: jd Vance as a tie breaking vote if it becomes

1639
01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:18,000
Speaker 4: a fifty to fifty. Everything so unbelievably outrageously partisan. I mean,

1640
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:21,439
Speaker 4: wait till you start seeing the oppo research that dumps

1641
01:34:21,439 --> 01:34:24,080
Speaker 4: on Mark Wayne Mullen. Oh, he's too much of a

1642
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:28,120
Speaker 4: Trump yes man. And it's all coming. It's all coming.

1643
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:32,840
Speaker 4: And Democrats have been very, very very clear they don't

1644
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:37,599
Speaker 4: care that Christinome was fired. They're not going to vote

1645
01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:39,280
Speaker 4: to fund the Department of Homeland Security.

1646
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:45,400
Speaker 21: Christinome has been fired, consistent with what we have demanded

1647
01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:49,559
Speaker 21: on behalf of the American people. Well, let me also

1648
01:34:49,680 --> 01:34:54,240
Speaker 21: make clear a change in personnel is not sufficient. We

1649
01:34:54,360 --> 01:35:00,400
Speaker 21: need a change in policy and that has to be bold, dramatic, transformationtional,

1650
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:01,559
Speaker 21: and meaningful.

1651
01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:04,160
Speaker 4: I don't know what that means, and neither does he.

1652
01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:07,479
Speaker 4: But they are still not going to fund the Department

1653
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:11,040
Speaker 4: of Homeland Security. They don't care. And Republicans have to

1654
01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:14,280
Speaker 4: talk about this. Democrats don't care if your kids get killed.

1655
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:17,479
Speaker 4: They're not going to fund homeland Security because they hate

1656
01:35:17,479 --> 01:35:19,760
Speaker 4: Trump more than they love your kids, more than they

1657
01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:22,360
Speaker 4: love America's future, more than they love their own kids.

1658
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:25,320
Speaker 4: These people are vicious animals, and if you vote for them,

1659
01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:27,160
Speaker 4: your kids are going to die.

1660
01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:30,560
Speaker 5: That's how they have to talk about it.

1661
01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:32,840
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's gotta be that rough, because I hear

1662
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:36,000
Speaker 4: you it sounds crazy, right, I wholeheartedly agree.

1663
01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:39,240
Speaker 5: But what else? What is the answer here? How else

1664
01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:41,439
Speaker 5: are you going to crack through? Breakthrough?

1665
01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:44,320
Speaker 4: You have to put them on their heels. They don't

1666
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:47,200
Speaker 4: care about the country. They hate Trump more than anything.

1667
01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:50,559
Speaker 4: They don't care who suffers, they don't care who dies,

1668
01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:54,240
Speaker 4: they don't care what happens. As long as they beat Trump,

1669
01:35:54,800 --> 01:36:02,120
Speaker 4: nothing matters to them. It's true through craziness. Now speaking

1670
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:03,400
Speaker 4: of true craziness.

1671
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:05,880
Speaker 5: About where they are, what they're the left is all about.

1672
01:36:06,080 --> 01:36:08,000
Speaker 5: Did you hear this story.

1673
01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:17,160
Speaker 4: About Seth Moulton. Seth Moulton is a Congressman, moul Ton,

1674
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:21,880
Speaker 4: Seth Maulton, and he at the State of the Union,

1675
01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:28,960
Speaker 4: like many leftists did, brought in someone to be a

1676
01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 4: part of the State of the Union, to be an

1677
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:34,800
Speaker 4: attendee of the State of the Union, to show a

1678
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:36,880
Speaker 4: President Trump that we support immigrants.

1679
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:42,440
Speaker 5: Remember, they lie about everything, They lie about everything. Everywhere.

1680
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:45,519
Speaker 5: No one's talking about legal immigrants. No one's talking.

1681
01:36:45,400 --> 01:36:49,840
Speaker 4: About legal immigration. We're only talking about illegal immigration. And

1682
01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:52,640
Speaker 4: the Left lies about everything. They won't even admit that

1683
01:36:52,720 --> 01:36:55,800
Speaker 4: there is a legal immigration. They're still dumb enough to

1684
01:36:55,880 --> 01:37:02,799
Speaker 4: use the term undocumented, dangerous, dangerous people. Well, Seth Moulton

1685
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:10,360
Speaker 4: brings in a guy named Marcelo Gomez de Silva and

1686
01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:11,280
Speaker 4: he even.

1687
01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:13,719
Speaker 5: Does a little interview with this guy.

1688
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:17,200
Speaker 22: Right in his office here with Marcelo getting ready for

1689
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:19,160
Speaker 22: the State of the Union tonight. This is gonna be

1690
01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:22,080
Speaker 22: a wild speech. They say it might go three hours,

1691
01:37:22,479 --> 01:37:25,160
Speaker 22: So you were smart to be drinking red bull before.

1692
01:37:25,680 --> 01:37:27,400
Speaker 22: I'm gonna have a coffee. There are probably gonna be

1693
01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:29,200
Speaker 22: a lot of lies, a lot of lies, a lot

1694
01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:32,000
Speaker 22: of hateful stuff that he's gonna say that's what he does.

1695
01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:34,479
Speaker 5: How are you feeling about that? I wouldn't say I'm

1696
01:37:34,479 --> 01:37:35,120
Speaker 5: super excited.

1697
01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:37,080
Speaker 19: There's a lot of morals that he has that I

1698
01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:37,760
Speaker 19: don't agree with.

1699
01:37:38,479 --> 01:37:40,439
Speaker 13: A lot of the things that he's doing lately are

1700
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:44,080
Speaker 13: separating multiple families and I don't agree with it.

1701
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:47,600
Speaker 4: So he doesn't agree with removing illegal immigrants, and he

1702
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:53,800
Speaker 4: wants to talk about morals. There are police reports that

1703
01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:57,679
Speaker 4: say this guy is involved in sexual assaults and minors.

1704
01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 5: That's the story. This guy.

1705
01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:09,559
Speaker 4: Who ended up leaving the State of the Union because

1706
01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:12,720
Speaker 4: Homeland Security was like, uh, do you know you just

1707
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:19,559
Speaker 4: brought to the White House? They wrote represented Malton plans

1708
01:38:19,560 --> 01:38:22,200
Speaker 4: to bring an a legal alien, Marcelo Gomez d Silva.

1709
01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:24,479
Speaker 4: Gomaz di Silva is an illegal alien who has no

1710
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:26,519
Speaker 4: right to be in our nation. We are committed to

1711
01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:28,800
Speaker 4: enforcing the law and fighting for the arrest, attention, and

1712
01:38:28,880 --> 01:38:31,120
Speaker 4: removal of aliens like him.

1713
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:33,639
Speaker 5: This guy.

1714
01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:38,680
Speaker 4: Is accused of having a criminal record. SETH Malton is like,

1715
01:38:38,920 --> 01:38:43,559
Speaker 4: there's no criminal record for this guy, zero criminal record.

1716
01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:45,360
Speaker 5: The Herald.

1717
01:38:46,360 --> 01:38:51,120
Speaker 4: The Boston Herald did some digging and as reported, The

1718
01:38:51,200 --> 01:38:53,680
Speaker 4: Herald submitted a public record's request to the Secretary of

1719
01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:57,040
Speaker 4: State's office in the Milford Police Department regarding two reports,

1720
01:38:57,640 --> 01:38:59,559
Speaker 4: one from June and the other from September of twenty

1721
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:03,879
Speaker 4: twenty one one, where Marcelo Gomez de Silva was apparently

1722
01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:07,120
Speaker 4: named as the person of interest. And they found two

1723
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:12,840
Speaker 4: police reports that featured him and they quote involve a

1724
01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:16,360
Speaker 4: sexual assault in juveniles and the report from twenty twenty

1725
01:39:16,479 --> 01:39:19,120
Speaker 4: from September. So that was the report from June. The

1726
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:22,400
Speaker 4: report from September twenty twenty one involves juveniles.

1727
01:39:22,439 --> 01:39:28,639
Speaker 5: He was nineteen at the time. That's this guy. That's

1728
01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:30,160
Speaker 5: who Congressman.

1729
01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:33,840
Speaker 4: Seth Moulton, Democrat Massachusetts, brought to the State of the

1730
01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:38,200
Speaker 4: Union to lecture to us about morals. I will say

1731
01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:41,759
Speaker 4: it again, for the people in the cheap seats, Ice

1732
01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:45,640
Speaker 4: has to keep going. I don't care what's happened with Christy. No,

1733
01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:48,640
Speaker 4: I don't care she has the job or not. It

1734
01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:54,320
Speaker 4: doesn't mean a damn thing to me. I've said this

1735
01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:56,599
Speaker 4: last week. I say it now that she has the job,

1736
01:39:56,640 --> 01:39:59,480
Speaker 4: that she doesn't have the job as completely consequential.

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Speaker 5: Somebody else has.

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Speaker 4: To have the job then, but ICE has to keep going.

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Speaker 4: ICE has to keep doing its work. I was on

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Speaker 4: Newsmax earlier this week and I was it was the

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Speaker 4: right after the hearing happened with the Senate Judiciary that

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Speaker 4: no one was part of that went to very very poorly,

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Speaker 4: and it was Tom Tillis yelling at her and other

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Speaker 4: people asking questions because there are things that Homeland has

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Speaker 4: been doing that are very very good, very fine. Maybe

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Speaker 4: she hasn't, but Homeland has. And it was a conversation

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Speaker 4: about that and how it connects the safety and security

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Speaker 4: of the nation to what's going on with Iran.

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Speaker 5: Listen, by lawmakers, take a listen.

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Speaker 11: What we've seen is a disaster under your leadership, Missnome,

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Speaker 11: a disaster.

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Speaker 23: An estimated one point nine million through self deportation. That's

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Speaker 23: just an extraordinary record, a complete turnaround from the utter

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Speaker 23: chaos and disaster we saw at the border under your

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Speaker 23: pretty How.

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Speaker 11: Did you think that calling them domestic terrorists at that

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Speaker 11: scene was somehow are going to calm the situation?

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Speaker 10: You know, Senator, we are working in those situations where

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Speaker 10: there's a tragic loss of life and that there is

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Speaker 10: something that our agents are involved in.

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Speaker 3: That we continue to deliver the information.

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Speaker 10: The patriots that work at the Department of Homeland Securities

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Speaker 10: still get up every day and do their jobs and

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Speaker 10: work hard to protect the American people.

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Speaker 8: We are damaging families.

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Speaker 23: To make a political point.

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Speaker 10: Tony, I want to get your take on the back

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Speaker 10: and forth there and also this taking place right now

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Speaker 10: with what we're seeing taking place over in the Middle East.

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Speaker 4: Well, first I would remind Senator Tom tell Us that

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Speaker 4: he is right. We are disgusted by what we are seeing,

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Speaker 4: and that is him posturing himself there in front of

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Speaker 4: the Secretary Nome, in front of the Senate as if somehow.

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Speaker 5: The utilization of ICE is a bad thing.

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Speaker 4: A legal immigration is wrong and we should remove a

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Speaker 4: legal immigrants from the country. Legal immigration is fantastic. We

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Speaker 4: should have systems that ensure that we get the very.

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Speaker 5: Best people coming into the country.

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Speaker 4: But this is as you're bringing up the conversation of

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Speaker 4: defunding the Department of Homeland Security, which means we don't

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Speaker 4: have a.

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Speaker 5: Coast Guard at full effect with full dollars.

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Speaker 4: Which means we don't have a series of things happening

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Speaker 4: to keep Americans safe, whether it's fentanml coming into the

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Speaker 4: country or as we see this action in Iran. What

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Speaker 4: about this conversation of terra cells. Never mind those who

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Speaker 4: might enter the country now those who are let in.

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Speaker 4: Under President Biden, for four years when open borders was

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Speaker 4: not only happening, it seemed to be a strategy, this

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Speaker 4: slow murdering or suiciding of the nation. We can argue

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Speaker 4: that for years we didn't do enough to secure the border.

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Speaker 4: The four years of Biden were horrifying. That's where our

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Speaker 4: anger and our.

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Speaker 5: Disgust should be.

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Speaker 4: We should absolutely right now demand the funding of the

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Speaker 4: Department of Homeland Security to ensure this level of safety

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Speaker 4: and security. And you could do that while demanding that

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Speaker 4: you want more information about why these shootings of Renee

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Speaker 4: Good and alex he took case we took place, and

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Speaker 4: what better can be done for ICE to do its

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Speaker 4: job properly. But I should keep doing its job. Can't

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Speaker 4: say it enough. ICE needs to triple down and keep

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Speaker 4: doing its work. Do not stop, do not rest, and

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01:43:14,120 --> 01:43:17,920
Speaker 4: do not quit. The Left has made a decision, and

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Speaker 4: it is the weirdest decision, but it goes back to

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Speaker 4: what we were talking about regarding the funding of the

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Speaker 4: Department of Homeland Security. They don't care that it's bad

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Speaker 4: for all of us. They care that they beat Trump.

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Speaker 4: That's what they care about. Christine Olman was the problem.

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Speaker 4: Christine Oham was the issue. Christian Home is gone now,

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Speaker 4: as we've discussed, I really do think it was about

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Speaker 4: Corey Lewandowski, and I really do think it was about

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Speaker 4: the ad spend, and I think that Senator John Kennedy

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Speaker 4: ended her career and this whole thing that she's going

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Speaker 4: to be the special Envoy for the Shield for the Americas.

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Speaker 4: This is I don't think she'll be in that job

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Speaker 4: a year. It will be the most non talked about

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Speaker 4: job ever. There's also a rumor that she's thinking of

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Speaker 4: running for Senate against Mike Rownds r U n DS

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Speaker 4: Mike Rounds in South Dakota. I don't know if she

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Speaker 4: still has the popularity in South Dakota. I'd have to

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01:44:16,160 --> 01:44:17,840
Speaker 4: really dig in a little bit to find that out.

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Speaker 4: This was Trump's saying, I'm disgusted, my God, don't ever

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Speaker 4: make it about you when it's all about me, which

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Speaker 4: we can all agree that he's like that, and certainly

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01:44:30,360 --> 01:44:31,720
Speaker 4: never make it all about you at least make it

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Speaker 4: all about America, which is the conversation we have all

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Speaker 4: the time. Don't put me in a bad position. This

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Speaker 4: was also a I really don't want to get rid

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Speaker 4: of her because I don't want to give the lefties

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01:44:42,400 --> 01:44:44,320
Speaker 4: a win here. You know what, I'll move her over

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Speaker 4: here and it'll be a soft landing, and then I

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Speaker 4: can move her out.

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Speaker 5: She's never after.

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Speaker 4: Getting fired yesterday, if she was in the White House

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Speaker 4: or not in the Ovo nine, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: She's never going back to the Oval. I can't. I

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01:44:55,880 --> 01:44:59,640
Speaker 5: can't imagine the rarest of situations she's going to go

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Speaker 5: back to.

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Speaker 4: But Trump's always gonna be like, it's a great relationship,

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01:45:02,160 --> 01:45:07,240
Speaker 4: it's wonderful. He's gonna do all those things. The left

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01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:12,000
Speaker 4: will only move if they can destroy Trump. And this

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01:45:12,200 --> 01:45:15,560
Speaker 4: is why the political right has to move so aggressively

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01:45:15,760 --> 01:45:19,240
Speaker 4: on two fronts. Number one, Democrats are okay with your

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01:45:19,360 --> 01:45:23,479
Speaker 4: kids dying a fentanyl They don't care. And number two,

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01:45:23,960 --> 01:45:27,880
Speaker 4: Ice keep doing their job, Keep doing your job, keep

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01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:32,960
Speaker 4: touting the successes. Everywhere there's a success. Don't stop, don't rest,

1848
01:45:33,080 --> 01:45:37,599
Speaker 4: don't quit, keep doing the work.

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Speaker 5: This is what we voted for. It's wildly popular.

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Speaker 4: Ninety seven percent support Trump deporting criminal legals. Now that

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01:45:45,880 --> 01:45:48,320
Speaker 4: might just be within the Republican Party, but the numbers

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01:45:48,360 --> 01:45:50,000
Speaker 4: overall are massive.

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Speaker 5: So keep doing it, and even if it wasn't popular,

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Speaker 5: keep doing it. Because these people broke the law.

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Speaker 4: We go after lawbreakers in the United States of America.

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Speaker 4: Don't stop triple down. That's my advice. This is Tony

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Speaker 4: Katz today. I still don't know why people are talking

1858
01:46:06,240 --> 01:46:11,160
Speaker 4: to James Carble. I mean, nasty, bitter saying that Trump

1859
01:46:11,240 --> 01:46:15,599
Speaker 4: has syphilis. The screaming, the yelling. He wants to march

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Speaker 4: conservatives down the street like their Circe Lanister, with people

1861
01:46:20,240 --> 01:46:24,760
Speaker 4: yelling shame. He's he's a gross guy. Yet there are

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Speaker 4: people who still put him on the air. Tony Katz,

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Speaker 4: Tony Katz today, Good to be with you.

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Speaker 5: Stephen A. Smith.

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Speaker 4: I get it, you're dabbling in the politics. It's adorbes hey,

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Speaker 4: everyone's allowed in an opinion. That's why I get to

1867
01:46:37,360 --> 01:46:39,719
Speaker 4: talk about sports. No one's gonna tell me I can't.

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Speaker 4: But he has got Carvel on the show, and I

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Speaker 4: didn't know that James Carvel was saying that Ilhano Maher

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Speaker 4: needs to leave the Democratic Party but.

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Speaker 19: She saw attacking white males, and I'm to say, wait

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Speaker 19: a minute, let's stop, all right. Nineteen twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 19: seventy of the people get voted.

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Speaker 5: Boy, all right, that's just a fact of.

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Speaker 19: That seventy two probably forty eight percent, forty eight and

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Speaker 19: a half we males.

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Speaker 3: So it's some way around.

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Speaker 19: I did the math. On't to think about thirty three

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Speaker 19: percent of the people got to go vote. I'm gonna

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Speaker 19: be white males. Well, it's stupid to attack thirty three

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Speaker 19: percent of the voters.

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Speaker 5: That's exactly who the.

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Speaker 4: Left is, and that's exactly what they want to do,

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01:47:23,920 --> 01:47:25,840
Speaker 4: and they're not going to stop attacking the voters. What's

1885
01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:28,880
Speaker 4: weird is they keep voting for white men over black women,

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Speaker 4: like we saw in the Texas primary. Gavin Newsom is

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Speaker 4: the lead nominee.

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Speaker 5: They don't care. They'll make them the nominees.

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Speaker 4: But that's not going to stop Ilhano, Marvis, It's lib

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Speaker 4: or any of these awful Karens from hating white men

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Speaker 4: every step of the way.

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Speaker 5: It's baked in to the DNA. This is what you created,

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Speaker 5: this is what you raised. Don't be surprised.

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Speaker 4: Find everything at Tony kots dot com Monday, Everyone take care,