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Speaker 1: I'm still un a speeding bullets.

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Speaker 2: Are powerful, gonna look come out him.

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Speaker 1: Hey, we'll believe all buildings at a single bond.

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Speaker 3: I'm in the cry the bird to Lincoln.

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Speaker 4: Lincoln, Lincoln so binga Bana Bana being gun buln gun Lincoln.

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Speaker 1: Basically lift cat. Lincoln is a bad mother. We're just

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Speaker 1: talking about Lincoln.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, Cincinnati, Welcome to twelve thirty w DBZ. We

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Speaker 4: are the buzz of Cincinnati, your talk station, the Lincoln

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Speaker 4: War Show till one o'clock this afternoon. It is Monday,

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Speaker 4: and man, what a weekend of football it was.

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Speaker 1: It was crazy.

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Speaker 4: Man, I don't even know where to start. Let's start

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Speaker 4: with the Ohio State and our favorite HBCU team, the

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Speaker 4: school where Alisha Ree Scratton graduated from. She even played

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Speaker 4: basketball down there. She was miss Grambling State also. But

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Speaker 4: they took a paycheck from Ohio State and came up

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Speaker 4: here and got their clocks cleaned. Seventy to nothing. Ohio

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Speaker 4: State beat them seventy to nothing. Man, unbelievable. I guess

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Speaker 4: it was worth the money.

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Speaker 1: They needed. The money. They got to buy equipment, they.

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Speaker 4: Got to do all kinds of stuff. So we'll take

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Speaker 4: this ass whooping for this check. That's pretty much what

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Speaker 4: it was.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, boy, and the game the Bengals and the Browns,

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Speaker 4: and it was an ugly game. Man. Bengals could not

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Speaker 4: do anything on offense. You know after the first quarter,

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Speaker 4: first quarter, Okay, I say, all right, they're looking good,

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Speaker 4: you know, and then after that they just disappeared. The

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Speaker 4: offense disappeared and the defense whoo, man, they gonna need

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Speaker 4: some work too. Those fumbles they recovered, they never would

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Speaker 4: have got those, not fumbles, but interceptions. They never would

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Speaker 4: have got those interceptions of the guys that the Cleveland

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Speaker 4: Browns and held on to the ball, they could hold

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Speaker 4: onto the ball, it would have been completion because nobody

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Speaker 4: was around. Nobody was around these That's the thing that

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Speaker 4: gets me. Are the Bengals playing some type of zone

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Speaker 4: and these guys are splitting the zone, getting in there

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Speaker 4: where they're open.

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Speaker 3: Of what.

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Speaker 4: There's just no way if they're playing man the man,

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Speaker 4: these guys should be as wide open as they are.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 4: Lucked out there and got a victory. Lucked out and

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Speaker 4: got a victory. And we'll take them anyway we can

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Speaker 4: get them. Uh, We've been on the other side of

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Speaker 4: those miss field goal victories. We've been on the other

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Speaker 4: side of that, so I guess you know, the law

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Speaker 4: of averages says, Okay, the Bengals should be on the

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Speaker 4: winning side of those miss field goals and miss extra

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Speaker 4: points and stuff like that, because we have been there

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Speaker 4: for sure, for sure. So but I tell you what,

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Speaker 4: the Bengals looked like a college team, and the Ravens

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Speaker 4: and Buffalo looked like real professional teams.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Man, this cats was playing some ball yesterday. Are you

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Speaker 4: kidding me? They were playing And I never thought that

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Speaker 4: Buffalo was gonna be able to come back and beat

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Speaker 4: the Ravens how And I fell asleep. I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 4: this game is over. I think I turned the news.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to see the eleven o'clock news, and the

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Speaker 4: game was still going. I'm like, okay, they never coming

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Speaker 4: back and win this one. This is in the bag.

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Speaker 4: And lo and behold they came back to win by

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Speaker 4: one over the Ravens. Unbelievable. I just couldn't win it.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it. And I

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Speaker 4: was over. Never turn away from an NFL game unless

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Speaker 4: you know, they don't have enough time to score as

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Speaker 4: many touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: As they need.

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Speaker 4: Never turn away and boy oh even and at that

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Speaker 4: game there was a little controversy. Who was the guy

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Speaker 4: that scored a touchdown? I can't think of his name,

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Speaker 4: of the end zone and somebody slapped him upside the head.

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Speaker 4: And then as Lamar Jackson was walking down the same path,

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Speaker 4: the guy slapped Lamar Lamar Jackson upside the head. Lamar

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Speaker 4: slapped him, you know, like he was a Buffalo fan

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Speaker 4: and they were mad because they had scored on Buffalo

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Speaker 4: and this guy just slapping players as they walked down.

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Speaker 4: He'll slapping him up side to here, and he slapped

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Speaker 4: the wrong one when he hit Lamar Jackson, Lamar turned

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Speaker 1: The dude back.

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Speaker 4: And oh boy, I tell you it's always something. Started

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Speaker 4: off with the spit on a Thursday night. There's always

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Speaker 4: something in the NFL. Let me tell you, always something.

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Speaker 4: And Donald Trump went to the US Open, and the

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Speaker 4: people who run the US Open, they're just whims. They

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Speaker 4: told the media not to show any disruptions or anything

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Speaker 4: when when they announced Trump or when they showed Trump

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Speaker 4: if anybody was giving any finger or something like that.

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Speaker 4: They didn't want ABC to show it. They didn't want

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Speaker 4: it shown. But they did let the booze be heard,

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Speaker 4: and I'm glad they did. They's like, we're not gonna

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Speaker 4: bow down to you. Ain't gonna air this stuff. Why

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Speaker 4: At the US Open, he got a lot of booze.

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Speaker 4: Believe me, that was not a friendly court crowd toward

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump. And we should see that. Why why you

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Speaker 1: Media and not let us see this stuff.

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Speaker 4: Geez, I tell you this place, this country is really

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Speaker 4: going to hell in a handbasket.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. We can survive three more years of this.

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Speaker 4: Uh, car crashed into the Baru restaurant. They call it

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Speaker 4: Barroux Restaurant. It's right there at the fifth and Race.

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Speaker 4: I know exactly where the place is. And I don't

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Speaker 4: know whether these guys were racing or what happened, but

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Speaker 4: one of the vehicles crashed into the to the restaurant.

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Speaker 4: They had to cut him out of the car, you know.

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Speaker 4: was another vehicle at the scene with heavy damage to

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Speaker 4: I think these guys were racing and somebody's car went

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Speaker 4: out of control and ran into the What are you

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Speaker 4: doing racing on the downtown In the streets of downtown Cincinnati.

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Speaker 4: Something was going on because they weren't creeping along, you know,

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Speaker 4: it's just always always something. What else is going on?

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Speaker 4: There was a shooting at the Sheldon Apartments Broad Daylight

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure, but people are shooting in the day,

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Speaker 4: even doing some shooting out in Lincoln Heights at Leggott Street,

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Speaker 4: one am that shooting happened. Boy, oh boy, oh boy.

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Speaker 4: We had a great walk this weekend. You know, people,

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Speaker 4: I tell you my walking club. I tell you, y'all

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Speaker 4: just so fickle.

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Speaker 1: With the threat.

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Speaker 4: Just let it be a threat of rain at the

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Speaker 4: few of the die hard members will come regardless. But

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Speaker 4: you got some real pansies that if the weather man says, well,

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Speaker 4: you know, there might be a shower or two rolling

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Speaker 4: might be. Now it's gonna be scattered. Yeah, you won't

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Speaker 4: back over. Walking club members, you are whimps. We had

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Speaker 4: the Democratic Party out there on Saturday, had a great

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Speaker 4: time with all the Democrats that were there. And I

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Speaker 4: don't want to mention anything. I might forget somebody. Uh,

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Speaker 4: but I'll do it before the end of the show.

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Speaker 4: I'll make sure I got everybody's name written down that

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Speaker 4: So I'll wait before I tell you who all was there. Yes,

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Speaker 4: but they had a great time. They were talking to

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Speaker 4: this past Saturday. Yes, and let's see what else we

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Speaker 4: They were pretty good, pretty good, pretty good War and Treaty.

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Speaker 1: It was great.

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Speaker 4: They sounded good behind the orchestra and the couple they

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Speaker 1: Yes, And.

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Speaker 4: He said, it was great. They're going to the Uh,

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Speaker 4: I haven't talked to Lady C yet, so I don't

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Speaker 1: I'm rooting for Lady C. I'm rooting for her.

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Speaker 5: So uh.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, so she had to, uh, she had to even

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Speaker 4: there was no uh all night hanky panky going on

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Speaker 1: I didn't ask him.

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Speaker 4: I said, well, did you get a good night kiss?

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Speaker 4: I wanted, I wanted to dig deeper, but I did.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's a great question, mister ware. I wish

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Speaker 4: Will call, maybe she will call. But uh, like I say,

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Speaker 4: Uh hopefully we can hear from Lady C today, Yes,

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Speaker 4: I can't remember, but I know that the people on

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Speaker 4: So we'll see unbelievable. All right, let's take a break

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Speaker 4: thirty The Buzz, The Buzz of Cincinnati, your talk station.

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Speaker 4: I went to Zakiah's memorial service on Friday. Yes, went

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Speaker 4: me Paul? Paul? Uh, you won't have to hear that anymore,

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Speaker 4: and I met her son there at the memorial.

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Speaker 1: Nice guy.

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Speaker 4: So one night stand he was there. He was there

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Speaker 1: Southern Grace. Man, they got some good.

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Speaker 4: Food over there, and the cake is, oh boy, that

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Speaker 4: Sunday Soul Classics. You got your hooks in me. So

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Speaker 4: I did play that yesterday. Hell yeah, everywhere I go somebody, hey,

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Speaker 1: So we played it all right.

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Speaker 4: Let's go downtown to the Crime Stopper headquarters and check

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Speaker 4: in with my good friend, Detective Tiffany Green. How you

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Speaker 4: doing today, I'm good.

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Speaker 6: Good morning, Lincoln.

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Speaker 1: How are you pretty good? Recovering from the weekend?

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Speaker 6: You're always recovering.

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Speaker 1: I know you know you're right.

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Speaker 4: It seems that way.

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Speaker 1: It seems that way.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, who we look for it today.

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Speaker 6: Okay, this this is a this is a doozy. But

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Speaker 6: Paula Jehio Walker is wanted by the Ohio Adult parolea

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Speaker 6: Authority for a felony parole violation. Mister Walker was originally

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Speaker 6: Walker has a history of drug trafficking and assault, and

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Speaker 6: was last known to live on elm Avenue in Northwood, Ohio.

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Speaker 6: James Ray Carroll is wanted by the Ohio Adult parolea

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Speaker 6: Authority for a felony parole violation. Mister Carroll was originally

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Speaker 6: He's forty six years old. He's five four and one

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Speaker 7: Nurse.

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Speaker 6: If anyone has information on where police can find Paula

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Speaker 6: at five one three thirty five two thirty forty or

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Speaker 4: All right, three five, two thirty forty, night or day,

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Speaker 4: and there's always cash money for your clues and we

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Speaker 6: I see you tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 4: That's a detective Green, And she says, I'm always recovering.

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Speaker 4: You didn't ask about her weekend, you know, I sure did,

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Speaker 4: And I forgot to ask her about her weekend. But

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Speaker 4: I think that's why I didn't ask, because she kind

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Speaker 1: I wonder did she go to j Z. Maybe she

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Speaker 4: But man, I tell you, I didn't know anything about

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Speaker 4: But I guess that's what they do now for his concerts.

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Speaker 4: Have you heard anything about that?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 8: I saw people post on Facebook wearing tuxedos. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 8: I think it was called a black tie something, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, call him over here, see if he can fill

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Speaker 4: What happened to jeezy?

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Speaker 1: Man? It was a great time.

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Speaker 9: Everybody was dressed up, the city understood the assignment. Hey

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Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, this Cincinnati. Now he put on a

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Speaker 4: It was a great time. So all right, yeah, there

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Speaker 4: you go. Okay, And that was could you smell any

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Speaker 4: Okay, Well, see, like that's why I wanted to ask you.

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Speaker 4: Some people say stuff and then you know, I didn't know.

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Speaker 1: But all right, So you had.

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Speaker 4: Did you have your tucks on when you casket sharp?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: I was clean, okay, you know, a little bow tie okay, Uh,

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Speaker 8: Is that something that was required to wear? Did you

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Speaker 9: Because that's the theme him going around the country and

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Speaker 9: Naty did it assignment.

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Speaker 4: I went to Speaking of orchestras, went to see a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, they were they turned it out. They were

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they sounded really good with the orchestra behind it.

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Speaker 4: They really didn't sound good that way. Boom boom they

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I love me a good orchestra, man.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I played.

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Speaker 9: I played in high school too, so uh the drums

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Speaker 4: Bands and it makes everything sound better, you know, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: all right, down one for show, thanks for stopping over.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate the linkor to the Lincoln were show. All right,

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Speaker 4: that's a down one for show for show. Yes, and

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Speaker 4: it was a black tie affair if you dare, all right,

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Speaker 4: five one, three, seven, four, nine, twelve thirty Lincoln Wear

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Speaker 4: Oh I did something else I did this weekend that

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Speaker 4: Dennis Neely and Reverend Dennis Neely. So there was no

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Speaker 4: Had a great time at Dennis's seventieth birthday party.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and Julian we made sure he had the TV.

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Speaker 4: I said, look, I'm not coming if y'all don't have

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Speaker 4: Over the weekend actually happened on Thursday or Friday. City

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Speaker 4: you gotta let people feed that liquor. They gotta be

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Speaker 4: And let's talk to one of the food truck owners,

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Speaker 4: Max from we do Barbieque.

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Speaker 4: How you doing Hey?

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Speaker 2: How you doing it?

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Speaker 4: Pretty good? I'm doing great, doing great.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 4: They sprung this. Did they talk to you guys before

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Speaker 4: they put this eleven o'clock band on the food trucks?

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Speaker 11: They had no conversations with me, definitely, And from what

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Speaker 11: they actually had no conversation with them either.

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Speaker 4: Wow. So they just threw that out there, didn't get

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Speaker 4: I'm I don't know about this eleven o'clock hour. Why eleven,

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Speaker 4: I wonder, Well, because they don't.

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Speaker 11: They don't. They're not sympathetic or understanding to people that

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Speaker 11: and it works two ways. It works both ways actually

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00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 11: where our customers come down there looking for us and

439
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 11: their customers look for us as well. But it's a

440
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 11: collaborative relationship that works well for both of us.

441
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Speaker 4: Now, the president of the Food Truck Association, have you

442
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 4: guys planned on meeting with counsel to see if you

443
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 4: can at least get the hours increased to twelve o'clock.

444
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 4: I think that would be more suitable twelve o'clock anyway,

445
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Speaker 4: But any plans to talk to them.

446
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 11: Well, here's the problem is that even at twelve o'clock

447
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 11: when you have because we've had a contract with Urban

448
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 11: Sites downtown, they actually reached out to us to put

449
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 11: us down there to to provide food for late night

450
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 11: party and club goers. But again, I think it's necessary,

451
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 11: but at the end of the day, they don't see

452
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 11: it being something that they're interested in. I've never had

453
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Speaker 11: anyone have a fight in my line getting food, whether

454
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 11: it's at midnight or one o'clock in the morning.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the thing that gives me. They think food truck, Well,

456
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 4: I guess they figured people will hang around the food

457
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 4: trucks and maybe there's a potential for a fight to

458
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 4: break out. But if they don't have any they haven't

459
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 4: had any fights breakout around a food truck over food

460
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Speaker 4: or anything like that, Why are they picking on you guys?

461
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Speaker 1: That's what surprises me.

462
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Speaker 11: I mean, that's that's what's baffling to me, because a

463
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 11: big part of our plan for a season is to

464
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Speaker 11: be out late night to provide food for late night partygoers.

465
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Speaker 11: And like I said, there's there's a number of businesses

466
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 11: down there. There's like the woodwork, you know, they have

467
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 11: weddings and stuff playing where people or events where they

468
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 11: contracted food trucks. And now they're gonna have to do

469
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 11: something like cancel the food trucks because they're probably they'll

470
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 11: probably go after eleven.

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Speaker 1: Gee gee, well tell me this.

472
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Speaker 4: You guys have to jump through hoops to even get

473
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Speaker 4: license to operate those food trucks. It's not an easy

474
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 4: job just to get a food truck go down there.

475
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 4: You got to do a lot of stuff to actually

476
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Speaker 4: get licensed to do this.

477
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 11: Yes, you have to be licensed through the county or

478
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 11: the state. You you know, legitimate food trucks are going

479
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 11: to be insured. You're probably going to be in one

480
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 11: or two associations, and then you just have to comply. Yeah,

481
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 11: and we do all of that, most food trucks, that's

482
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Speaker 11: what we do.

483
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Speaker 2: We comply.

484
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Speaker 4: Man. Now, are most of the food trucks down there black?

485
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 4: Are they white?

486
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Speaker 10: Or what is it?

487
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Speaker 4: You know, can you answer that question? The majority of

488
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 4: them are white? Black?

489
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Speaker 11: Or what I can tell you the majority of the

490
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 11: ones that work after eleven PM is going to probably

491
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:47,959
Speaker 11: be a minority owned. So it seems it seems as

492
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 11: though once again, you know, I don't want to I mean,

493
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 11: I guess I do want to use the race car.

494
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 11: And I'll say, this is another instance. And just like

495
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 11: the bars, you know, just like the city man or

496
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 11: the city listener that attacks the black bars and does

497
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 11: nothing to the white bars, this is another situation where

498
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 11: adversely black businesses are being affected.

499
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, Well, they simply.

500
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 11: Don't want black business in the city of Cincinnati, That's

501
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 11: what I believe. And the ones that they do there,

502
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 11: if you don't partner with them, then they definitely trying

503
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 11: to get you out the way.

504
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 4: Man man, So are there any plans for you guys

505
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 4: a lobby city council or the president of the food

506
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 4: truck Association she plans on going down or what? Are

507
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 4: you just gonna live with it and close up at eleven?

508
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 11: Well, I mean, I don't know. I'm gonna have some

509
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 11: more dialogue. I'm gonna reach out and see it may

510
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 11: be it may be something that I may have to get,

511
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 11: you know, just rally the truths and go down there

512
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 11: myself with as many people as I can get to

513
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 11: support the calls. But I'm very disappointed in the city's

514
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 11: decision because it again affects black business and they and

515
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 11: they keep saying they don't want to with people out

516
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 11: of business, but that's what they do.

517
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 4: Wow, I think you should organize a food truck a

518
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 4: rally down in front of the city hall. Bring all

519
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 4: the food trucks down there and park them and walk

520
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 4: into city Council and see what happens. See if you

521
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 4: can the people in Hyde Park, you see what happens

522
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 4: when the city puts something on them and they didn't

523
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 4: want you. See what happened. They reversed it. So, Uh,

524
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 4: the squeaky wheel gets.

525
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 11: The oil maybe maybe that's something we'll have to do.

526
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 11: But like right now, you know, they pulled the rug

527
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 11: out from under me, and you know, I still got

528
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 11: a couple of months seasons where I expect to do that.

529
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, definitely. You got you got all this stuff.

530
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 4: You got, you still got Reds, you still got the

531
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 4: Bengals on Sundays. Uh, people come down to the square

532
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 4: after the game and all kind of stuff. I mean,

533
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 4: there's a lot of events going on down there.

534
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 11: Well there's a lot of events. But you gotta really

535
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 11: face the fact Cincinnati, the town area to me, is

536
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 11: not thriving like other cities anyway. So if you can

537
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 11: create more of a festive situation and and have stuff

538
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 11: like food trucks and late operations and and and even

539
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 11: more officers on the street, because even the weekend that

540
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 11: the bro happened, we were at the corner of Fourth

541
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 11: and Plumb, and if we would have had at least

542
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 11: one officer down there, the whole bra wouldn't have happened.

543
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, if just one officer had been there, but they yeah.

544
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: It wouldn't have been a problem really.

545
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 11: And there would have there would have been someone to

546
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 11: deter the melee.

547
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: But Yeah.

548
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 11: The reason why that happened is that with the city

549
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 11: all their resources was probably down at the banks, which

550
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 11: it is every weekend. But you got black business that

551
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 11: hung out to dry because the two bars down there

552
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 11: had no support from the city whatsoever.

553
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 2: None.

554
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 11: And I was there for the entire time. I go

555
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 11: on to you see we do barbecue truck there the

556
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 11: whole time where all that stuff that's going on, saw

557
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 11: the whole incident. And at the end of the day,

558
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 11: the city has itself to blame because they did nothing

559
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 11: to make sure this did not happen where it happened, all.

560
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 4: Right, Well, Max, hopefully they can change it at least

561
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 4: until twelve eleven is just ridiculous. What have you guys?

562
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 4: Closed down at eleven and as many people as I

563
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 4: see walking about downtown is not a question of safe.

564
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 4: Cincinnati is safe. Downtown Cincinnati is safe. I mean, you

565
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 4: got a truck on Fountain Square. It's been there all

566
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 4: summer long. I don't think there's been any incidents down

567
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 4: there around safety, has it?

568
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 5: No?

569
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 11: I mean it hasn't. And it's a shame that this

570
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 11: one incident that happened jazz festival weekend, given the city

571
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 11: of Black I'm getting people calling me from all around

572
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 11: the country thinking that the whole city is right. And

573
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 11: we had one little situation that lasted probably about six

574
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 11: or seven minutes, and everybody thinks that this is what's happening.

575
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 11: And you know, you got all these lobbyists, all these politicians,

576
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 11: you know, attacking attack in the city, and it seems

577
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 11: like that we're alawless, a lawless city, and we're not,

578
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 11: you know, we're not.

579
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 4: All right, Well, Max, good luck in your quest to

580
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 4: get city council to drop that crazy uh law that

581
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 4: they threw up there all of a sudden and then

582
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 4: even negotiate with you guys, sit down and talk to you.

583
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: They just threw it on you. Just like that.

584
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 4: Keep us informed, let us know what's happening, and if

585
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 4: you're hearing any talk from city hall.

586
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: Let us know.

587
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 11: I will do thanky and.

588
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 4: I had the mayor in in a couple of weeks

589
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 4: and now ask him about it.

590
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: Also.

591
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 11: I appreciate it.

592
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: Thank you, all right, thanks for your call.

593
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 4: All right, that's Max from We do barbecue and he's

594
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 4: got a few trucks around downtown and I did see

595
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 4: one of his trucks on festival weekend. He was parked

596
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 4: in front of a restaurant, and I guess he was

597
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 4: working along with the restaurant, like you to say it

598
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 4: was a bar.

599
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I don't know what the deal was.

600
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 4: It's crazy, but I think they should have sat down

601
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 4: with the Food Truck Association and work this thing out.

602
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

603
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 8: When I first heard the news about that, I couldn't

604
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 8: connect the dots. I'm like, what does that have to

605
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 8: do with the issues that we're having with the violence? Yeah,

606
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 8: just I couldn't connect the dots.

607
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

608
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, So all right, let's take a break and then

609
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 4: we'll come back. We'll go to the phones five one, three, seven, four, nine,

610
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 4: twelve thirty, The Lincoln Wear Show twelve thirty, The buzz

611
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Speaker 4: In d to be Z. Every time I hear that song,

612
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 4: I have to sing along with it. You just can't

613
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 4: help but sing along with that. That's my new karaoke,

614
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 4: my new go to for karaoke. Yeah, let our rejoy

615
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 4: scene rise.

616
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Speaker 1: Lincoln Were.

617
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Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, yeah, okay, where the white women at these names?

618
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 4: All white women are unbelievable, un be leeve. That's why

619
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 4: they put this disclaimer on before my show.

620
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 10: I do believe.

621
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: I do believe they don't want any.

622
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 4: Parts of this. All right, let's go to the phones.

623
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Speaker 4: Let's go to my good friend Mike McCoy.

624
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Speaker 2: How you doing, good morning, Linking, How you doing this morning.

625
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 1: I'm hanging in there. What's going on?

626
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 2: Oh? I know you happy? You won your bet?

627
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: Uh with Rick Jr? Yeah?

628
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 2: You want the whole You have to worry about your

629
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 2: calling in on that game the Bengals play. Did they

630
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 2: look They didn't look good at all? Did they know?

631
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 4: They didn't? And I thought they were gonna run up.

632
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 4: I thought both teams were going to score a lot,

633
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 4: and I had them picked for the over. I had

634
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 4: the old I had I won the under on how

635
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 4: many pass attempts Burrow would make, and I had a

636
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 4: two game parlay. Ingle's going with the over, and Uh,

637
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 4: I had the under on the pass attempts from Burrow.

638
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 4: I won the under on Burrow. But Man, I had

639
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 4: the over on the score.

640
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 2: Geez, yeah, well they should do Jacksonville in you going

641
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 2: down to Jacksonville game?

642
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: I think that game is right here. That's here, Okay,

643
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: it's here Sunday.

644
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 2: Yes, okay.

645
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 3: Uh.

646
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 2: And one other thing, Lincoln, Man, I listened to your

647
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 2: show last week. Man and I never thought twin with

648
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 2: brun White they're from Joyce.

649
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 5: Stick out again.

650
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 4: Yes, he didn't know, he didn't want to deal with it.

651
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: I don't know.

652
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 2: And he's supposed to be a gangst and all that

653
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: kind of stuffy rand him away. But uh, anyway, Lincoln,

654
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 2: I just want to thank you for taking my call

655
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 2: and uh oh for uh the game last night at

656
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 2: forty game? What's that the hell of a game or what?

657
00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:58,439
Speaker 1: Man?

658
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 4: I just knew that Baltimore had that game. I just

659
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 4: knew it was over.

660
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 2: Now let me ask you a question. Did you see

662
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: that little white boy slap Lamar Jackson and he.

663
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 4: Damn pushed him out there?

664
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: Yes? Yes?

665
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 2: What gave you that little boy to write to think

666
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 2: he could put his hands on Lamar Jackson?

667
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: I don't know.

668
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 4: And it wasn't like he was glad he had scored

669
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 4: a touchdown because he had a he had a Buffalo

670
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 4: shirt on or something. He had something Buffalo on and

671
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 4: he was mad. He just slapped him upside the helmet there.

672
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy. But anyway, Lincoln, thanks for taking my call.

673
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 2: And I'm enjoyed listening to the show all last week. Man,

674
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 2: it just makes my day.

675
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 4: I'll listen to you, Lincoln, Mike McCoy, thanks for your call,

676
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 4: and we appreciate it.

677
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 2: All right, have a blessed date.

678
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: All right.

679
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 4: That's my good friend, Mike McCoy. You gotta put that

680
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 4: in there. Gotta put that in there, all right, five, won, three, seven, four, nine,

681
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 4: twelve thirty Brent, what's going on?

682
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 2: Oh? Nothing much, Lincoln, And I would rather be your

683
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: nephew than your good friends. Oh man. But yeah, the

684
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 2: Rick Junior is Yes, that was a silly best for

685
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 2: him to make, but he's national so he can still

686
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 2: call in and bug Al Sharpton and the Redaniels Favors

687
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 2: and Clay Caine and all the rest of them, so

688
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 2: he'll be all right.

689
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:31,240
Speaker 1: Ay, yeah, we won't have to listen to that anymore.

690
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 2: I guess, you know, yeah, oh yeah. And you remember

691
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,760
Speaker 2: before when I talked about the wages of whiteness concept

692
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 2: from the Beating Beat the Boys book from nineteen thirty five,

693
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 2: Black Reconstruction. Yes, okay, where their wages are? You know,

694
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 2: they get public and psychological bonus for being white. Referential treatment,

695
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 2: you know, with jobs and schools and other goods different

696
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 2: from the state and society. You know, they definitely get

697
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 2: different from the in the house and everything like that,

698
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 2: and they perceive superior social status they hit those wages,

699
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: but they also get the downside of that to where

700
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 2: they vote against their own best interest. And have you

701
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 2: seen what's going on in Arkansas?

702
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: No, what's happening there in Arkansas.

703
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 2: These farmers are crying and moaning at these town hall meetings, saying,

704
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 2: we've had this farm in our family for generations and

705
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 2: we're gonna wind up loving it because we lost contracts

706
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 2: with China.

707
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: It's their own father, their own father, yes.

708
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 2: It is, and they're billy aching and they want Donald

709
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 2: Trump to save them. And I say everyone should call

710
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 2: their local congressmen and congress women and tell them do

711
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 2: not approve any welfare to those farmers, yep, because that's

712
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 2: that's all on them.

713
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 4: They voted for him, and now they get what they

714
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 4: voted for.

715
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 2: And the sad thing about it is a lot of

716
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 2: these tom men and women they are bought into these big,

717
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 2: huge corporations that buy a farmland and then make the

718
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 2: people who they bought it for them or don't they

719
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 2: don't make it, but the people wind up working back

720
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 2: on it. So essentially they gonna wind up hair cropping eventually. Yeah,

721
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 2: which is sad. And one of the things. Have you

722
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 2: seen this new series, I think it's on FX called

723
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 2: Alien Earth.

724
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 4: You know, I saw the previews of it, but I

725
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 4: haven't watched it.

726
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: I didn't see the previews yet.

727
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 2: Now, if you like the Alien series, you will enjoy

728
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 2: this series. They've done it really good, and they've also

729
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: introduced some new aliens. Like one of them is this

730
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 2: little just imagine a little baby octopus, but it has

731
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 2: an eye with a bunch of I guess irises or

732
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 2: pupils on it. And what it does, It'll climb on you,

733
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 2: rip out your eye, put its eye in its place,

734
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 2: and then be able to control your body. And I

735
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 2: think that's what's happened to RFK Junior. He got one

736
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 2: of these. He already has the brain words. This joker

737
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 2: is given so much craziness in terms of vaccines and everything.

738
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 2: For folks who want to get the COVID vaccine, depending

739
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 2: on where you are, you can't get it.

740
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 4: His family even wants him to resign, Yeah, but he won't.

741
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 2: He's arrogant, and you know that's there's power in that position,

742
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: so he will maintain it. But every day it seems

743
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 2: like we have something to talk about. How incompetent, woefully

744
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:40,760
Speaker 2: incompetent that this entire Trump administration is from the wrestling

745
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 2: secretary of Defense another Defense of Education who can't do

746
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 2: basic math and you know, talking about a one soft

747
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 2: and you know, teaching it to our kids and everything.

748
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 2: She is, all of them are. The only requirement is

749
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 2: that they're white or you know, think they're white, like

750
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 2: ash Fatail.

751
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Speaker 1: And they they follow his orders.

752
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: Follow his orders and Project twenty twenty five orders to

753
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 2: a chief.

754
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: Yep. That's it.

755
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 4: Even if Kennedy did resign, he just hired somebody else

756
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,760
Speaker 4: that had the same mentality as Kennedy.

757
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 1: It just wouldn't be Kennedy. I mean, I mean, he's.

758
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 4: There, and we might as well be deal with it

759
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 4: for the next four years, and that's when we can

760
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 4: do something about it.

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00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 2: Yep. And maybe these white folks will finally get well

762
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 2: what I talk, I'm giving them too much credit. No,

763
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 2: they'll they'll bothe for them next next go around if

764
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 2: they get an opportunity, because they get those still get

765
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 2: those wages of whiteness, just like with the three hundred

766
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 2: thousand black women who got kicked out of what we

767
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 2: got fired from their government jobs. They were keying on

768
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 2: that number. They don't care about the other white folks, right,

769
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 2: were farre from their government jobs. As long as they

770
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 2: got rid of those up of the you know, openly educated,

771
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 2: openly qualified black women. That was their only goal.

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Speaker 4: That's it, all right, Brent, thanks for you, Kyle, thank you?

773
00:41:58,360 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: All right.

774
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 4: That's Brent Beard. And uh, why are y'all coming down

775
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 4: on Brent on Facebook Live? These folks are something else.

776
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: Ross and and Blade.

777
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 4: They they're haters, the strictly haters.

778
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: All right.

779
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 4: Uh, we've got news coming up and then we'll come

780
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 4: back on the other side, Burning Langston, Curtis Wells and others.

781
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 4: Holding on twelve thirty the buzz Eddie your talk station.

782
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 4: It's Lincoln where it's Monday, Monday, Monday. Who's playing on

783
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 4: Monday night football tonight? I don't know, anybody knows. I

784
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 4: don't know who it is, but uh, I'm sure it'll

785
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 4: be pretty good. I'm sure it'll be pretty good. Uh,

786
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 4: five one three, twelve thirty. Let's go to Vernon, Vernon.

787
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 4: How you doing today?

788
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 5: Hey, what's going on?

789
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: Brother?

790
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 4: I'm right here, hear you loud and clear.

791
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 5: It was nice to see the ball finally bounce the

792
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 5: bingles way. Yes, for so long, we're gonna say we've

793
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 5: lost three games, I know, three games last year from

794
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 5: you know, missed extra points and miss field goals or

795
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 5: you know, and it was all set to go downhill.

796
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, yea.

797
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 5: Once they dropped that Once Bengals number one receiver dropped

798
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 5: that ball and then freeze back to back sacks, I

799
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 5: was like, Oh, it's getting ready.

800
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 2: To go down here.

801
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 4: We might as well face it. Joe Burrow is not

802
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 4: a runner. He's got to learn how to kick his

803
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 4: legs high so that they just can't. I mean, you know,

804
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 4: if you watch, if you watch what's his name, oh man, uh,

805
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 4: the guy from the Chiefs, quarterback for the Chiefs.

806
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: If you watch him, he runs high.

807
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 4: He kicks high so that when they go to grab

808
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 4: his legs, you know, you can't just grab him from

809
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 4: the ground because he's kicking up high. Burrow's got to

810
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 4: learn to do that. He just tiptoes and they can

811
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 4: just bring him down real easy.

812
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 5: May They were playing a two deep zone, which is

813
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 5: pretty much have figured the type of defense you've played

814
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 5: with some younger players, because it was always somebody around

815
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 5: when that ball got tipped, which is what always happens

816
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 5: to the Bengals. Well, when you play that defense, you

817
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 5: leave the middle of the field wide open, and that's

818
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,720
Speaker 5: what they were throwing that ball to and the boys

819
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 5: are just dropping it. I was just going crazy at

820
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:25,479
Speaker 5: the house.

821
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 4: Yes, they got to do something with those corners and

822
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 4: those safety day. They just let these cats run free.

823
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, when the.

824
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 5: Safety is supposed to come up. So you got a

825
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 5: line listen, you you drop a linebacker back and covered

826
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 5: you blitch the other one. Well, number fifty five for

827
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,439
Speaker 5: the Bengals is probably the Slewest white boy ever, saying

828
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 5: plays linebacker. The other number guy number forty.

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Speaker 11: Four, he's too small.

830
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you actually, Washington, that's a small guy. So

831
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 5: he wasn't getting there, and your safeties are playing too

832
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 5: deep and it was just hitting that all day long.

833
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 5: And uh yeah, it was something else. Uh I wish

834
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 5: I could have went up there. Uh my girlfriend went

835
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 5: up on the bus and they said, uh, that is

836
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 5: one dirty as city.

837
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:15,919
Speaker 1: Really really, I mean it was ridiculous, really the part.

838
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 4: You know, I went to a Cleveland game up there,

839
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 4: and it seemed like you know, cleaning up the area

840
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 4: where I was in.

841
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: I didn't go to the outskirts or anything like that.

842
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, when they came, I guess wherever they came through,

843
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 5: they the first thing they saved it and they started

844
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 5: getting off. But you know, those a bunch of people

845
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 5: till gating and all in and I guess they just

846
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 5: do their trash everywhere. You know how that goes fimes.

847
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 11: Yeah, but we want to know that's all the matter,

848
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 11: all right, that's right.

849
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 4: I want to know that that's that's why we made

850
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 4: them play the preseason for to win that first game.

851
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh yeah, kicking the field goals.

852
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, thanks for your call. All right, let's

853
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 4: go to Alisia Ree, Alisha, Rese.

854
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,320
Speaker 3: How you doing hey, and they get I'm.

855
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 10: Doing fantastic And just wanted to say how to give

856
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 10: a good congratulations to Christy Coons and the Urban League

857
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 10: wonderful fundraising gala.

858
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, I had a great time.

859
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 10: I had a lot going on in Cincinnati, a lot

860
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 10: going on this weekend and.

861
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 4: Cincinnati, so yes, yeah, yeah, did you go to j Z.

862
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 10: Yes, my brother came in town and uh, he had

863
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 10: seen him in Orlando and he came to town said

864
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 10: we gotta go, gotta go, and I'm glad he had

865
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 10: me go. Man, the whole city was out. Want to

866
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 10: think everybody was looking good and nice. And I had

867
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Speaker 10: a great time and a great time with my brother

868
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 10: and uh. Then but the next morning we paid for

869
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 10: it because uh we had to get up early to

870
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 10: support my niece volleyball game. But I'm glad we did advance.

871
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 10: She did a backwards hit to win the volleyball game.

872
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: Man.

873
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 10: So but but I was tired. We had a great time, and.

874
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 4: You go without me getting on you about this. Your

875
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 4: school Grambling came up to Ohio State and they they say, okay,

876
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 4: do we take a check and a butt whooping? Okay,

877
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 4: let me take the check. Let's go get that butt whooping.

878
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 4: That's what they got from ohouse down. I hope they

879
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 4: got a million dollars for that game.

880
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 10: Leccoln I didn't get to make that game. They didn't

881
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 10: get sucked with me, but they did get the They

882
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 10: did get the briefcase with one million dollars they paid Bramblin.

883
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 10: I didn't get to go because I had the Urban League.

884
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 10: It wasn't no way I could get back and I

885
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 10: had to be at Urban League, but I told them

886
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 10: that I would meet them in Vegas. We're playing in

887
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 10: the first HBCU ever Classic in Vegas, and we'll be

888
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 10: in the stadium there. I think it's Allegiance Stadium. I

889
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 10: tell them I'll be there when we played Jackson State,

890
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 10: and I'll put my miss Gramblin hat back on and

891
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 10: we'll be ready to rock. But this one, they got

892
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 10: a million dollars. They got the suitcase. And then I

893
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 10: heard that sand I heard that the the world the

894
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 10: world renowned band played with the best band of the land,

895
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 10: and they were learning some things from Grandma's turned it out.

896
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 10: They said, they got it all over the video. They

897
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 10: bobbing their hands like, Okay, this is how they do it.

898
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 3: Grandma turns it out.

899
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 10: I heard with the band. But I do want to

900
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 10: say it was tough for me because I'm a big

901
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 10: Ohio State football fan. I'm also a big Grandma alum.

902
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 10: And so anyway, Grandma, I tell them, get the suitcase

903
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 10: and get out of town and don't get hurt. Don't

904
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 10: get hurt, because we got Jackson State. We got to

905
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,720
Speaker 10: take over, boy, and I'll be in Vegas with Grandma.

906
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,760
Speaker 4: Now let me you got some money for small business,

907
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 4: minority business. You got some money to give away, don't you.

908
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: Yes.

909
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,919
Speaker 10: So one of my initiatives was starting the county first

910
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 10: ever office a small business. You know, we had the

911
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 10: big small business Day that we do and a lot

912
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 10: of people connected with contracts.

913
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 3: The other thing I said, we need to have a

914
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 3: pitch night.

915
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 10: So we did it for the first time last year

916
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 10: and we're doing it again this year.

917
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 3: Up to ten.

918
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 10: Thousand dollars in prizes to the best pitch. You have

919
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 10: to register and the last day to register is today.

920
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 10: So if you're a small business or an entrepreneur, you

921
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 10: register today to try to get to the finals. You

922
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 10: get to the finals, then you have a chance to

923
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 10: compete for the up to ten thousand dollars. So we're

924
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 10: telling people to go right now to go to Hamilton

925
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 10: County Small Business. Let's put that in Google off of

926
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 10: a small business Hamilton County hit pitch night and you

927
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 10: have You know, today is the last day, said don't

928
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 10: wake the four, three and four o'clock. Do it now.

929
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 3: It hurt Over one.

930
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 10: Hundred people already have applied, So do that right away,

931
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 10: and then you can also find out about a new

932
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 10: program if you're trying to buy a building, you a

933
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 10: small business, you're trying to buy a commercial building. One

934
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 10: of the things I was happy to be a part

935
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 10: of and thank my colleagues for supporting it.

936
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 2: We put it up about.

937
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 10: Five hundred thousand dollars in this fund to help with

938
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 10: your down payment for a commercial building. So you can

939
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 10: go for money the ownership and you can call our

940
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 10: small business office to ask for Greg FOURT about this program.

941
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 10: It's five to one three four five eight two two

942
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 10: one zero four five eight two two one zero gregs FOURT.

943
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 10: Because they haven't had a lot of people know about

944
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 10: this program, so this is nothing like it. We'll put

945
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,240
Speaker 10: the down payment and it will help you with fifty

946
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 10: percent of your down payment if you' you know. Of course,

947
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 10: you got to go through and make sure you you know,

948
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 10: you have got all the requirements. But at the same time,

949
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 10: we're not taking any interest in your business. A lot

950
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 10: of people give you money, but they want ten percent,

951
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 10: or they want two percent.

952
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 1: Or what have you.

953
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,959
Speaker 3: This is a will help you with fifty percent.

954
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 10: A lot of times you get to five or four loan,

955
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 10: but then you don't have the money for the down payment.

956
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 3: So wanted to tell people that and then Lega, you know, I.

957
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 10: Come from a small business, and I just want to

958
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 10: remind people that on Friday, September twelfth is my father's birthday,

959
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 10: doctor Stephen Rees Senior. He'll be seventy eight years young.

960
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 10: And y'all remember Integrity Hall. I remember my parents went

961
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 10: from renting downtown to saying we want to go own something,

962
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 10: and they went and bought a dilapidated building in bond Hill,

963
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 10: redeveloped a dix Hut development, but they had a thing

964
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 10: called Integrity Banquet and Conference Center.

965
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 3: And I run up the site, run into so many

966
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 3: people that give me stories.

967
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 10: About Integrity Hall.

968
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 3: So what we're going to do is have.

969
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 10: An Integrity Hall reunion eleven am to two pm at

970
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 10: the Brunch Deluxe in bond Hill, twelve forty one, California.

971
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 10: Because Paul, the owner said he was a youth and

972
00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 10: was that Integrity Hall for a leadership workshop, a lot.

973
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 3: Of leadership things for community. And saw my.

974
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 10: Parents owning a building and a banquet hall and that,

975
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 10: and they had it for twenty eight years. And then

976
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 10: he came him and his wife and reinvested in bond

977
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,720
Speaker 10: Hill with a new Brunch de Luxe, which is also

978
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 10: event senter, So come on out, it's free. Have you

979
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,240
Speaker 10: got any stories about.

980
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 4: Integrity Oh, I got some stories about Integrity Hall.

981
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: I got some stories.

982
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 4: I remember when barbar Reice was getting up out of

983
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 4: her wheelchair going after Nate Livingston.

984
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 10: Oh lord, I'm talking about people who paid for rentals.

985
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 3: I talk about the free croft Lica.

986
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 10: You had your first holidays at Integerty Hall.

987
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 4: Well, I think it was probably the second one. The

988
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 4: first one I had in a place called Annie's over

989
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 4: there Annie. Then I had the second.

990
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,280
Speaker 1: Wak. We outgrew Annie's the first time.

991
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 10: You were at because all works for you. We put

992
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 10: it together. Remember that did something that you were there

993
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 10: your second year? Okay, okay, the first there the Integrity Hall,

994
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 10: y'all was eating free and everything. I had the old food,

995
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 10: you know, Mama had to say it out. But you

996
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 10: also had the dance contests against you and my dad

997
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 10: and I got that when y'all both had good needs

998
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 10: and I won.

999
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 3: Y'all did the I don't know, I got a fish

1000
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 3: up my dad going way low Lincoln.

1001
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 10: You head thee for a seconds.

1002
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 3: So we had those, and then we had a lot

1003
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 3: of weddings.

1004
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,919
Speaker 10: People had weddings and reunions and a lot of free

1005
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 10: community events lencoas you did. You know, a lot of

1006
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 10: shows were done from there. We had about three different

1007
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,399
Speaker 10: thing you've been with, three different stations. We had all

1008
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 10: the shows was live and Integrity Hall and we go

1009
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 10: all the way back there in the house so we

1010
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 10: you know, stopped the violence. We had all that ic

1011
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 10: D and all that back in the day and uh

1012
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 10: Little League World Series exhibition. We had the big thing there.

1013
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 10: Had a lot of three presidential candidates, Dean, Jackson and

1014
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 10: Bradley all had events at Integrity Hall. So it was

1015
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 10: just so many things, all business. The Black Chamber was

1016
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 10: started in I remember that small business meeting and my

1017
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 10: dad and clean and said he was trying to get

1018
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 10: it going. He went to my father and they got

1019
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 10: up at our small business event and both of them

1020
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,839
Speaker 10: got up said this is an idea whose time has come.

1021
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 10: And I was the first volunteer secretary. I said, I

1022
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,240
Speaker 10: gotta go volunteer meet birtht.

1023
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:24,760
Speaker 3: Lincoln Work gave me five hundred dollars.

1024
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 10: Now y'all got me, But no, it was it was

1025
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 10: all these memories and we're a time where we got

1026
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,399
Speaker 10: to document our history because they're trying to wipe it out.

1027
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 10: So come on out Friday at Friday, this Friday, from

1028
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 10: eleven am to two, So Lincoln, you can make it.

1029
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 10: When you get off eleven to two, come on out.

1030
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 10: We're gonna record the memories as Integrity Hall Reunions to

1031
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:51,800
Speaker 10: Stephen Resinian birthday.

1032
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 2: Lincoln.

1033
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 3: All ready, Lincoln, we might do.

1034
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 10: A rematch of the chat shop. I ran no needs

1035
00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 10: and you got my needs.

1036
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 1: Were looking better than his. My needs are working better.

1037
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 4: All right, we'll find out.

1038
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 10: All right, we'll see everybody Friday, and don't forget get

1039
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 10: online right now for the pitch night up to ten

1040
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:12,439
Speaker 10: thousand dollars.

1041
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,919
Speaker 4: All right, Alicia, thanks for your call. All right, let's

1042
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 4: take a break. We'll come back. I got a special

1043
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 4: guest in the studio and you'll find out who he is.

1044
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 4: On the other side. Well, it's two people. I've got

1045
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 4: a guest and he brought a guest with him, and

1046
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 4: I'm anxious to talk to both of them. Coming up

1047
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 4: on twelve thirty the buzz talk station and uh lo

1048
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 4: and behold, he's in the studio. He's not up in Toledo.

1049
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:42,760
Speaker 4: Everybody said, why is he in our business.

1050
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:43,720
Speaker 1: And he's up in Toledo.

1051
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 4: Well he's down here in Cincinnati now, mister Nate Livingston

1052
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 4: is in the house.

1053
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: How you doing, Nate Lincoln, How are you doing? All right? Doing?

1054
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: All right?

1055
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 7: Time? No, see, man, I know that's time we saw

1056
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 7: each other was almost a year ago.

1057
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: And you you up there the liner. The last time

1058
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: I saw you on the.

1059
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 7: Ground, caps had me on the ground. So here I

1060
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 7: am in Cincinnati. I'm here because they were I'm here

1061
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 7: because they were having a hearing, the Cincinnati braw defendants. Uh,

1062
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 7: we're having a hearing. And they were also trying to

1063
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 7: be slick. Some white attorneys, Kirk Hartman and Chris Finny

1064
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,280
Speaker 7: were trying to be slick and uh uh. They filed

1065
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 7: a couple of motions with the OHIU Supreme Court saying

1066
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 7: that they wanted to get all of Alexander Travinsky's records

1067
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 7: uh released, which I agreed with, But I recognized that

1068
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,919
Speaker 7: what they were trying to be slick about was they're

1069
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 7: trying to put their version of the story cemented into

1070
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 7: the public record. And so if you read their lawsuits,

1071
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 7: and there was two of them, one was fouled against

1072
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 7: the clerk.

1073
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: Of course, one was fed against the city.

1074
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 7: They're version of the facts don't match what the actual

1075
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 7: facts were, and so they're trying to set set it

1076
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 7: up to where the FBI is compelled to come in

1077
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 7: and announce that they're opening an investigation. But not because

1078
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 7: of what you might think, because according to them, a

1079
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 7: person's civil rights have been violated and it's the white

1080
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 7: man who did to slap it. And so, of course

1081
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 7: this is all political.

1082
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: You know.

1083
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 7: The reason that they want to do that is this

1084
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 7: is a step towards getting the National Guard of the

1085
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 7: military to come to Cincinnati, and all of this is

1086
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 7: about trying to help JD.

1087
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: Vance's brother become the mayor.

1088
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 12: And so.

1089
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 7: I came down for the hearing. And while I was

1090
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 7: at the hearing, Reverend Damon Lynch was at the hearing.

1091
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 7: City council candidates Stefan Pryor was at the hearing. A

1092
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 7: lot of good people. But those people are known. I

1093
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 7: know they're known you by your audience. I got to uh,

1094
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 7: Damon Lynch. One thing Reverend al Sharpton does very well

1095
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 7: is when he goes into these different cities, he always

1096
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 7: reaches out to the mothers. And so I was about

1097
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 7: to leave. I met a couple of the people. We've

1098
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 7: I've heard people like Vernon, who's in your chat? They saying, well,

1099
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 7: if there is a good people, why y'all the only

1100
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 7: one standing up for him?

1101
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: Where is their family members? Where is their friends?

1102
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 7: Ain't nobody called the buzz and said these are good

1103
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 7: people or nothing?

1104
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 5: So?

1105
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 7: Uh, I met some people. I got their stories. I

1106
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 7: was a little too scared to approach some of them.

1107
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 7: And Damon Lynch, being a pastor, he said, Nate, I

1108
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 7: want to introduce you to some people. So he introduced

1109
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 7: me to this this lady who's sitting beside me, and

1110
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 7: he said, this is one of the mothers and so.

1111
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 4: The seven people that were arrested in charge.

1112
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 7: So me, being the son of a pastor listening to

1113
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 7: a pastor, I instantly understood what he wanted me to do.

1114
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 7: So I wrapped my uncut I don't mean literally, but

1115
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 7: I wrapped my arms around her, and I said, you

1116
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 7: know what I'm going to see My old friend Lincoln

1117
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 7: were at the radio station. Would you be willing to

1118
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 7: come and speak to the people who have those questions

1119
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 7: like Vernon? Would you be willing to tell us about

1120
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 7: your daughter. We don't want let me say this too.

1121
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 7: Clyde Bennett was in one of the heroes. There were

1122
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 7: two heroes, one with the black defendants upstairs, one with

1123
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 7: the white defended downstairs.

1124
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 4: Did he show He didn't show up. He didn't show

1125
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 4: up again. The black people had to.

1126
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: Show up for the pre trials, but the white man don't.

1127
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 7: So anyway, Uh, I did get to speak to Clyde Bennett,

1128
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 7: but I want to make it clear I did not

1129
00:59:55,680 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 7: get his permission to bring his client to her order

1130
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 7: is represented back, Okay, okay, And.

1131
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: So I didn't run this by him. I didn't have time.

1132
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: I didn't really think about it. And so I'm.

1133
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 7: If I being apparently, if I hear her saying something

1134
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 7: that I think might anyway then get her daughter in

1135
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 7: trouble or get clad ben mad. I'm all not be rude,

1136
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 7: but you know what I'm saying, I'm gonna try to interject.

1137
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 7: So uh and so okay, your name, that your clerk?

1138
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 1: Okay?

1139
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 4: And which client?

1140
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 10: Who?

1141
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: Who was you?

1142
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 4: And that's my daughter?

1143
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: What's her name?

1144
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 12: She was like one of the first she was like

1145
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 12: the first female actually the guys she had.

1146
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 4: To blind with. Okay, okay, okay, okay. And she had

1147
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 4: a little jumpsuit on in this. Yeah, well she was

1148
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 4: moving around. She was doing a lot of moving.

1149
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 7: So if you don't matter, let me let me before that,

1150
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 7: before you really get to giving her the third degree,

1151
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 7: mister ware, be gentle with her. Please, let me just

1152
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 7: say that be fouled a motion. It looks like you

1153
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 7: fouled this a couple of days ago. I don't think

1154
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 7: it had been reported. But he wants to get the

1155
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 7: grand jury testimony and those transcripts released. And for people

1156
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 7: who listen to this show on the regular basis, you know,

1157
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 7: that's been one of my things. Somebody is lying about

1158
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 7: what happened. Somebody is lying about what they told the

1159
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 7: grand jurors. And the only way to know who said

1160
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 7: what did the police not want to press charges or

1161
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 7: was it a prosecutorial decision. So the only way to

1162
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 7: find out is to get the grand jury transcripts release.

1163
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 7: And so I'm glad to bring the motion right here

1164
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 7: in my hands of the motion from Clyde Bennett to

1165
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 7: say he agrees and he wants the grand jury transcripts

1166
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 7: to be released. Now these would be released to him

1167
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 7: and then somebody like me or some community lawyer. I

1168
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 7: wish we had one can go in and say, well,

1169
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 7: if they got a right to see the grand jury transcripts,

1170
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 7: why should in the public be able to see him too?

1171
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 7: And so with that said, I think you had asked

1172
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 7: this lady, uh to tell What did you ask her

1173
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 7: to tell us about you?

1174
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1175
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay?

1176
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 4: What was her involvement in the whole situation? We saw her, uh,

1177
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 4: you know, moving around and everything like that in the

1178
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 4: in the with the videos, So what did she tell you?

1179
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 1: Okay? And also what you could see? How did she

1180
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 1: get down there?

1181
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 4: So she was down there at work.

1182
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 12: They were driving the electric cars with the Germaine name

1183
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 12: with his cars, so she kind of worked for him.

1184
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 1: The one in the red shirt, the guy said.

1185
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 12: She was with him and his girlfriend had on the

1186
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 12: white She was with both of them, and that the

1187
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 12: girlfriend is her friend and she's friends with both.

1188
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 1: But they were all co workers also, so there wasn't

1189
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 1: no troublemaker. No, it wasn't drunk, and it was not

1190
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 1: trying to work, trying to work money, drinking.

1191
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 12: Just getting awful work, right, So just got off of

1192
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 12: work and saw commotion with with the situation where those

1193
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 12: people were from what I hear from other people, not

1194
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:01,919
Speaker 12: even just my daughter. Those people were trying to start

1195
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 12: fighting with whoever they could walking past where the guy.

1196
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: Who got mental. The community knows that this guy has

1197
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 1: some mental issue.

1198
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 12: They were trying to fight with anybody. And the first

1199
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 12: person that they kind of like was they were about

1200
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 12: to jump Gooney, the last almost last dude that got arrested.

1201
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:19,479
Speaker 12: They were about then he had the problems or whatever.

1202
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 12: They were about to jump him and the guy Jamaine

1203
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 12: tried to stop him. He would have first tried to

1204
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 12: break up the fight, and then the guy that slapped

1205
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 12: him had started kicking the cars.

1206
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 4: First I heard. I heard that he started carr kicking

1207
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 4: the gather like why are you kicking the car?

1208
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 1: So he tried to ask him.

1209
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 12: Then, you know, because they kept giving him, you know,

1210
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 12: Grace kept just he's trying to be aggressive and trying

1211
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 12: to fight, but they just kept telling him to stop

1212
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 12: or you know, trying to break up stuff he's starting

1213
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 12: and everything, and he just took it too far. Once

1214
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 12: he got the kicking the cars and then when he

1215
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 12: was like, so, oh that's your car, and then Jamay

1216
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 12: said yes, and he slapped them. And then these other

1217
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 12: guys come running in. I think I guess they knew

1218
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 12: Jamaine c. I only knew three of them. I know

1219
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 12: my daughter, the Jamaine girlfriend, and and Jaman that's all

1220
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 12: I know. And the rest of them kind of just

1221
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 12: got in and they they came and just jumped on

1222
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:08,959
Speaker 12: the white guy and then my daughter she she didn't

1223
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 12: jump in like on the white guy, but like after

1224
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 12: the what was oh stop, I'm sorry.

1225
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 7: I just kind of didn't want her to say what

1226
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 7: her daughter did, you know, I don't want her to

1227
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 7: be wind up on the stand.

1228
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:27,439
Speaker 12: She didn't kick anybody, She didn't kick anybody. She didn't

1229
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 12: brutally attack anybody. She did like had a conversation with

1230
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,439
Speaker 12: one person and that was it. Yeah, Yeah, she didn't

1231
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 12: have she really helping out the friend. Her friend, Yes,

1232
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 12: that was her friend. That was that was her friend.

1233
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 12: Her friend was kind of attacked by three people at

1234
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 12: the same time. And that's how my daughter even got in,

1235
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 12: like trying to get she got one person off of

1236
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 12: her friend. That's about her her participation in the whole fight.

1237
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 7: And you know, and that's an important point because one

1238
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 7: of the reasons they're saying they can't charge Holly even

1239
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 7: though we've seen video of Holly interacting fighting here, pushing, shoving.

1240
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 12: And that's what my daughter did towards her. She ran

1241
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 12: towards her, but she didn't touch her. A guy came

1242
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 12: and knocked her out, and nobody knows that guy. So

1243
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 12: that's another part that everybody was getting stuff to that

1244
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 12: out of nowhere.

1245
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 1: Wait, but he's arrested, right, the guy, Well, he got arrested.

1246
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 12: Yeah, he got arrested, but nobody knows him. Nobody knew

1247
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 12: who he was, so that they like, this person just

1248
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 12: walk her by and this person just a passer by.

1249
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 12: My daughter, the kayle Vernon wasn't just passing by.

1250
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 4: She was with the people.

1251
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 12: And that guy, the Patrick I think his name was,

1252
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 12: he was a passer by, Like I guess he saw

1253
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 12: the commotion that he wanted to get in it, but

1254
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 12: nobody knew him, nobody know what his name was, none

1255
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 12: of that.

1256
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 4: And so you know, her down there, just trying to work,

1257
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 4: make a living, not looking for trouble.

1258
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 12: Was ready to go home, and all that got started

1259
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 12: and she would not just let people that she's with

1260
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 12: get into it. And it was more they said, they

1261
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 12: say the fight was two old people got beat up

1262
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 12: by a bunch of people. It was about five or

1263
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 12: six of them, and my daughter only fought with I mean, well,

1264
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 12: she only had a confrontation with one woman, just one woman,

1265
01:05:57,920 --> 01:05:59,959
Speaker 12: and the woman that had all blue and it wasn't

1266
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 12: really Holly. Holly had on blue flowers on her outfit.

1267
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 12: And the other lady is this is a third lady

1268
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 12: into the fight. So just to show you that it

1269
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 12: was more than just two people, two old people in

1270
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:12,959
Speaker 12: there on their side, that part wasn't true.

1271
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 7: And so when it comes to Holly being a white woman,

1272
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 7: they say, we can't charge Hollywood no crimes, even though

1273
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 7: we saw hitting people.

1274
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 1: Even though the chief of.

1275
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 7: Police said, I'm giving an order to all my officers

1276
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 7: everybody who was downtown fighting is to be arrested in

1277
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 7: charge with the crime.

1278
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 1: They saying, well, we can't charge Hollywood no crime. This

1279
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:36,919
Speaker 1: is what the prosecutors.

1280
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 7: And you know, I think I'm beginning to believe that

1281
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 7: Connie Pillage might she might not be lying to us.

1282
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 7: She might not be lying the revend CAZy Smith. She

1283
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 7: might not be lying the pastor Leslie Jones. She might

1284
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 7: just be clueless, mister Ware. She might not know that

1285
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 7: her prosecutors. According to the FOP president, according to several

1286
01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 7: other officers, her Man Richard Ginning is the one who

1287
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 7: told the cops you cannot charge any of the white

1288
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 7: people with crimes. And so they're saying the reason is

1289
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 7: because Holly was defending somebody else. Self defense don't just

1290
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 7: mean of yourself, It means of yourself or others. And

1291
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 7: so if Holly shouldn't be staying trial for any crimes,

1292
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 7: why is this lady's daughter when she was doing.

1293
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 12: My daughter, My daughter knew the person that she was

1294
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 12: defending and they were friends. Holly, it meant admitted she

1295
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 12: didn't even know the person that she was so called defendant.

1296
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 1: This is hopped in that fight. But what my thing is,

1297
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 1: why didn't she call the police?

1298
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 12: Why didn't the lady that my daughter had the confetation with,

1299
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 12: Why didn't she call the police? Like, why wasn't any

1300
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 12: of them calling the police if they were such victims.

1301
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 7: That's my problem was, I was watching the bond here

1302
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 7: and that appeared in front of Jewd's tricks like three

1303
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 7: weeks ago, and number one the prosecutor, and during that hearing,

1304
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 7: he said, I've got all these videos and I'm putting

1305
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 7: them together, and I thought I was gonna have him

1306
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 7: ready today.

1307
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 1: Three weeks later he's so it seemed like he might

1308
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 1: not be telling the truth.

1309
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Speaker 7: To us, which what goes along with his history, because

1310
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 7: he's got a history if you read through the newspapers

1311
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 7: and do a deep dive on the guy, he's got

1312
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 7: a history of going in front of a judge in

1313
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 7: Hamilton County and saying, I admit that I lied to you.

1314
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 1: He's got a history of lyne to a judge.

1315
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 7: Now he's say the reason I lie was because my

1316
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 7: client told me a lie, and I just passed the

1317
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 7: lie along to you. What makes us think that he

1318
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 7: hasn't been lied to by the city, which is his

1319
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 7: client now, and he hasn't just passed them lies along

1320
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 7: the judge Allen Triggs or now to this new judge,

1321
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 7: Judge Allison hath the way.

1322
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I just think it frustrates me.

1323
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 1: I don't think that the black people are getting a

1324
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 1: fair shape.

1325
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 11: They're not.

1326
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 1: They're they're in this story. They're talking to each other

1327
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:07,440
Speaker 1: and before.

1328
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:10,600
Speaker 7: We know what's that saying a lie go around the

1329
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 7: world before the truth put its pants on. And so

1330
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 7: I'm hoping that black people and justice loving white people

1331
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 7: who were listening to your show will will say, now

1332
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 7: what we're questioning the official story that's been given to

1333
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 7: us because it don't sound like the truth.

1334
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 12: I'm so glad people could also do that, because it

1335
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 12: was it was lives from the beginning, lives from the beginning,

1336
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 12: like the whole thing, too old white people, who does that?

1337
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 4: We don't move like that. Now, how did they Where

1338
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 4: did they arrest your daughter or did she turn herself in?

1339
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:43,600
Speaker 12: They came and got her, and they just came. It

1340
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 12: was probably like a day or two after okay, during

1341
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 12: the day at night, during the day, Okay, they.

1342
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 4: Kind of you know, yeah, very yeah.

1343
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 12: They yeah, and then they came in everything and they

1344
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 12: took her out, and yeah, she was gone for nineteen

1345
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 12: days now off of one just one little competition with

1346
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 12: one person, because it was it's not aggravated riot what

1347
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 12: she did, and it's not colonious assault. Her and the lady.

1348
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,839
Speaker 12: They neither one of them did like aggravated riot or assault.

1349
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 12: They both fought with each other.

1350
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 7: I heard the prosecutor stand up at court and say

1351
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 7: that he took at least one of the white people

1352
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 7: before the grand jury. And then I also heard him

1353
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 7: say that he had reached out and contacted all of

1354
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:26,680
Speaker 7: the white people who were involved. Now, he said the

1355
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 7: reason he did it was to make sure that they

1356
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 7: weren't out of towners. There was some question about whether

1357
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 7: these people was from Russia or whether they was gonna Yeah,

1358
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 7: And so I heard with my own ears him say

1359
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 7: that he had reached out personally and talked to all

1360
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 7: the white people who were involved in that street fight.

1361
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 7: My question for you is, had have you ever been

1362
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:50,639
Speaker 7: contacted by Connie Pillage or anybody in her office to say, hey,

1363
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 7: we want to see what your side of the story is.

1364
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 7: We want to see if may not you are a

1365
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 7: victim and you should should not be charged with any

1366
01:10:58,080 --> 01:10:58,759
Speaker 7: of these crimes.

1367
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 12: No, I haven't been contact about anybody. I've been actually

1368
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 12: trying to find people to tell her story too, you know,

1369
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 12: because her story was just she is just put out

1370
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 12: really bad.

1371
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 1: And then that's not even her.

1372
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 12: This girl and graduated, she don't have any kids, she works,

1373
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 12: she was at work at the at the time when

1374
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 12: this happened.

1375
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:17,599
Speaker 1: Well, you got you got none of this. You got

1376
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 1: a good.

1377
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 4: Lawyer, Clide Bennett, and she get on clide.

1378
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 1: Bennett is the.

1379
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 10: Man to do it.

1380
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 12: He definitely been in has been great, Yeah, dealing with

1381
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 12: this case plus the man.

1382
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 4: Well, all I can do is wish you good luck

1383
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 4: and what this. We're gonna follow this Nate. I'm glad

1384
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 4: you he'll GetUp with Nate because he'll keep you up

1385
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 4: to date. That's everything that's going on. Why did you

1386
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 4: Why didn't you ever become a lawyer? Why didn't you

1387
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 4: ever go to law school?

1388
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 1: I had a family and.

1389
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 7: Got the activist bug, and and uh got to fighting

1390
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:54,599
Speaker 7: over there on the campus, not physically fight.

1391
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, then let me see.

1392
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 7: When I was on campus, Joe Dieters was on the

1393
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 7: border trustees first locked horns and Joe didis was saying

1394
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 7: a whole bunch of terrible stuff about black people. And

1395
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 7: I was over on campus and I was saying to

1396
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:12,640
Speaker 7: my fellow students, including Samuel Burbank who's now over the

1397
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:16,560
Speaker 7: uh uh citizens complain authority, and a whole bunch of

1398
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:21,440
Speaker 7: good people in my class, and I was saying, we're students,

1399
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 7: we can go affect him, you know. And so I

1400
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:29,600
Speaker 7: wind up doing some protests at the Board of Trustees

1401
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 7: me and wind up getting on suspension, and then you know,

1402
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 7: I let stuff happen and my grades went down, and uh,

1403
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 7: they kicked me out one time, and I sat out

1404
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 7: for a couple of months and came back and said, Okay,

1405
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 7: I'm reformed, and uh eventually I started having kids and

1406
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 7: got married and and uh, I just never finished my

1407
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 7: undergrad degree in Cincinnati, and so you can't go to

1408
01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 7: law school without an undergrad degree.

1409
01:12:59,200 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 10: You know.

1410
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 1: When I was working for Ken Lawson, hopefully you did.

1411
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 1: You you'll be over here later on time today.

1412
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 4: All right, Ken was in town by the way, and

1413
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 4: so we're gonna try to get him sometime before one.

1414
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 1: He may come. When I was working with Kenny, Kenny

1415
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:16,679
Speaker 1: used to wait, hold that thought.

1416
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 4: Let me take a quick break. I gotta take a

1417
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 4: break and then we'll come back. Twelve thirty the Buzz

1418
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 4: and Lincoln Wear with you, and uh, we got Nate

1419
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 4: Livingston in the studio and Elica Clark, Elicia Clark and

1420
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 4: her daughter was one of these seven blacks that were

1421
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 4: arrested in the world famous brawl. And she was in

1422
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 4: jail nineteen days. And you have to pay you how

1423
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:44,720
Speaker 4: much bond you and you don't get and you don't

1424
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 4: get that back.

1425
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 7: No man, ain't that something mister where men think about that?

1426
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 7: Now they have to show up at court. The white

1427
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 7: guy doesn't. They had to put money up. The white

1428
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 7: guy hasn't. They've been arrested and kept in jail for

1429
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:01,640
Speaker 7: nineteen her daughter nineteen days. The one guy still up

1430
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 7: in jail in Butler County. This guy has still to

1431
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 7: this day not been arrested and in courts, and they

1432
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:13,679
Speaker 7: are running around. They might bring your buddy Sonza down

1433
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 7: from the Department of Justice of civil rights, civil rights

1434
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:22,759
Speaker 7: violations to say the white man civil rights are violated.

1435
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:25,599
Speaker 4: That's crazy. I hope that doesn't happen. I hope Sonsa

1436
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 4: doesn't have to come back here for that. It's just

1437
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 4: like her daughter had to put up that money. Her family.

1438
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 4: I mean, think about it. These these are not family.

1439
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:36,599
Speaker 4: These aren't rich Indian ill family. They don't live out

1440
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 4: there where you live at yeah, right, right.

1441
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 1: But these are not people with cash like that laying

1442
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 1: around that.

1443
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 7: They're not like the Pharaoh with ten thousand dollars they

1444
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 7: can just pull out their back pocket. So it's an

1445
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:57,720
Speaker 7: unfairness going on here. And I really do wish that

1446
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 7: the I don't know if you got the word. But

1447
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 7: so on the on the motion that was filed Bay

1448
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 7: Kurt Hartman and Chris Finney, that basically went out the

1449
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 7: window because the city agreed to release his records.

1450
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:14,639
Speaker 1: I don't know if I mentioned the show. So they're

1451
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 1: going to release So they're going to release all of

1452
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 1: Alexander's records. But guess what. When I went to get this,

1453
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 1: they said, well, these records are are what's the what's

1454
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 1: the Marcy's law. Marcy's so you can't. I said, wait

1455
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:29,719
Speaker 1: a minute.

1456
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 7: So the reason I mentioned that is because even though

1457
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:38,080
Speaker 7: the white guys records will be available to the public,

1458
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 7: the black people's won't. So when they do release those

1459
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:45,679
Speaker 7: videotapes and they do release all the all the evidence

1460
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 7: that will help find them not guilty, the public won't

1461
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 7: be able to get access to it. So it's it's,

1462
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 7: you know, they playing all kinds of games. I really

1463
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 7: do wish that the city would show some leadership. Now

1464
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 7: I listen, just on my drive down here, mister were

1465
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 7: I hope you don't mind me saying this. I ain't

1466
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:10,639
Speaker 7: trying to step on no toes or be unfriendly. Why

1467
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 7: you know, welcome you into your home. But I heard

1468
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 7: a guy who's running for council on one of the

1469
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:21,679
Speaker 7: white radio stations today, which number one, Why can't counsel

1470
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 7: candidates go on white talk radio?

1471
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 1: On black talk radio? They can't come.

1472
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 4: Believe me, I ain't up there. If it were up

1473
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 4: to me, I let them all come through here. Maybe

1474
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:35,640
Speaker 4: I need to have a schedule meeting with Dan or

1475
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 4: somebody else. But anyway, so they were weaving this story.

1476
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:44,120
Speaker 4: I mean, they gave this guy three segments to weave

1477
01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 4: this story. Sounds like you have to be Chris Smithman.

1478
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 1: Was that who the guy is? Yes, yes it is.

1479
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 7: And so they have their story, they version of the events,

1480
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 7: and they keep repeating them, repeating them. People hear people say, well,

1481
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 7: I heard Chris smith He wouldn't lie. He's saying that

1482
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 7: the chief of police in that press conference said go

1483
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 7: arrest somebody white. They said, arrest somebody who hit somebody.

1484
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 4: Is that kid?

1485
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:18,639
Speaker 1: Yep? That's King Losson. I believe him. So you want

1486
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 1: me to you want me to wrap it up. H

1487
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 1: We're gonna do a little break bring uh Lincoln gonna

1488
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 1: let him in. Yeah, I mean this is like a

1489
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 1: reunion here. We need is jay Lon.

1490
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 4: All the hells are here the law firm of Livingston,

1491
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 4: lost In and Lincoln.

1492
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 7: But but I didn't finish this. When we went to

1493
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 7: break and I hear you come in the room. Man,

1494
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 7: let me tell you how how good King Lawson was

1495
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 7: to me. King Lawson never he might go a month,

1496
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 7: month and a half, two months, he would say, Nate,

1497
01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 7: you need to get back his school. Ain't no reason

1498
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:04,600
Speaker 7: you shouldn't have a law degree, right, That's what I

1499
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 7: was just telling him. I was just telling him that

1500
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 7: you're doing these briefs. But uh, I was just too

1501
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:16,640
Speaker 7: wrapped up man, and life got the life in and

1502
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:22,879
Speaker 7: uh I just never did Ken Lawson fresh in from Hawaii.

1503
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 7: What's going on?

1504
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:27,520
Speaker 1: See Nateloha aloha.

1505
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:29,720
Speaker 10: Good.

1506
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm telling you, man, Nate. I mean it was

1507
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 13: fun having Nate in office. I mean we we did

1508
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 13: oh my god.

1509
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:37,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1510
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 1: I mean he should have been a lawyer. I'm just

1511
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 1: telling him that.

1512
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 4: I don't know why he didn't go ahead and finish

1513
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 4: school get his law degreen, because he would have been

1514
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 4: a pretty good lawyer.

1515
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 1: He had been the hell of a lawyer.

1516
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 13: Man. We had a lot of fun me, Nate Kirkland.

1517
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 13: We will come up with some some legal legal theories.

1518
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 1: Man, unbelievable.

1519
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 4: Let me tell you whatdy was serious to. Let me

1520
01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 4: take a break and then we'll come back and talk

1521
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 4: a little more. We got Nate Livingston, Ken Lawson, Lincoln

1522
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 4: ware and I keep Againtingrlicia Clark. Okay, I know you

1523
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 4: got to go, but all right, we'll take a quick break.

1524
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:15,679
Speaker 4: We'll come back twelve thirty the Buzz Station, Lincoln where

1525
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 4: with you and none other than Ken Lawson. Kenneth L.

1526
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 4: Lawson is in the studio with us and fresh in

1527
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 4: from Hawaii. And uh boy, it's good to have you here.

1528
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 4: I got you and Nate in the same day.

1529
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 1: The miracles will never see. Man, it was good seeing

1530
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 1: Nate again though.

1531
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 13: Man. But you know, Lincoln, I love always coming by

1532
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 13: here and stopping buying and seeing you and you know,

1533
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 13: catching up on things every now and then when I'm

1534
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:47,680
Speaker 13: in Hawaii, you know, just six hour time different right

1535
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 13: right right right, and so like right now, what time

1536
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 13: is it now? So it's almost six am in the

1537
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,680
Speaker 13: morning there, right, Yeah, So every now and then I'll

1538
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:02,560
Speaker 13: catch you on Facebook and tune in and listen to

1539
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:04,839
Speaker 13: all the voices from the past.

1540
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:06,799
Speaker 4: And by I said Cincinnati hasn't changed one.

1541
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 1: Bit, you know, that is right. And so it's like this,

1542
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:12,560
Speaker 1: you know the stuff that's going on now, you know

1543
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 1: what I mean.

1544
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:16,600
Speaker 13: You know it's downtown Cincinnati racism, stuff like that, you

1545
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 13: know what I mean, And selective prosecution, yeah, selected police

1546
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 13: and you know, you know the politics all of it. Uh,

1547
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 13: I mean, yeah, it just seems like it has hasn't changed,

1548
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 13: hasn't changed at all.

1549
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 4: No, And you know you're good friend Iris rolely she

1550
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 4: had a contract with the city. Now that's up in

1551
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 4: the air, and uh.

1552
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:39,760
Speaker 13: So yeah, and you know, and the police union is

1553
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 13: still you know, and yeah, I stay in touch with

1554
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 13: Irish and I mean that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

1555
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 13: But you know, the police union is still being the

1556
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:48,759
Speaker 13: same bully as they have been.

1557
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:49,920
Speaker 1: You know in the past.

1558
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 13: Right, I remember you and the fang Man, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1559
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 13: I'm telling you man, they remember that time they went

1560
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 13: to city council and they said that if they were

1561
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 13: going to settle the collaborative agreement, it would only be

1562
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:07,760
Speaker 13: if I was no longer allowed to sue the city again.

1563
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 1: Remember that they said, I can't sue the city more.

1564
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:10,639
Speaker 5: Man.

1565
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 13: We raised all kind of reverd lynch brought the bucket

1566
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 13: boys down there the council meeting.

1567
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 1: Man, it was off the hook down there. I missed

1568
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:19,640
Speaker 1: being down here racing. Yeah, I don't know.

1569
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 4: I tell you, like you said, it hasn't changed at all.

1570
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:25,720
Speaker 1: Still the same city. I guess.

1571
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 4: You saw the brawl all the way in the whole Hawaii.

1572
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:28,640
Speaker 1: Did you see that?

1573
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1574
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, ma'am. You know, yeah, I made national news,

1575
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So yeah, I mean it

1576
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 1: was just same thing. Yeah. Yeah.

1577
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:40,799
Speaker 4: So you're a professor at the University of Hawaii.

1578
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 1: Now, how you like that? How you like?

1579
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:42,720
Speaker 5: Man?

1580
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:46,719
Speaker 13: You know, I love teaching law. I'm running the Hawaiian

1581
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 13: Stance Project. We just had an exoneration. So even though

1582
01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 13: see God works some mysterious ways, man, even though Ohio

1583
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:56,519
Speaker 13: said that we're going to try to permanently just bar

1584
01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:59,599
Speaker 13: you to where you can't practice law no more, I'm

1585
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 13: in running the Hawaiiannos's project, you know what I'm saying,

1586
01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:04,760
Speaker 13: and freeing the innocent.

1587
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:05,599
Speaker 1: Ya, you know what I mean.

1588
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 13: So, so you know they couldn't you know, if God

1589
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 13: has a way, right, can't nobody else stop what you're doing?

1590
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:15,439
Speaker 13: And so we just had an exoneration and the biggest

1591
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 13: murder rape case in Hawaiian history. And we just did

1592
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 13: a podcast with Crime Junkies, the twelve episode podcast, and

1593
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 13: Manda Knox was the narrator of the case. So you'll

1594
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:31,880
Speaker 13: hear me talking about how investigated case along you know,

1595
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 13: the lawyers that that that that work with the project

1596
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:38,639
Speaker 13: with me and stuff like that. So you know, I'm

1597
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 13: teaching criminal law right and evidence and and and you

1598
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:46,439
Speaker 13: know all the subjects that I love. But I'm also

1599
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 13: you know, using DNA and stuff like that to free

1600
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 13: the people in Hawaii. Yeah, so you guys have right.

1601
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 13: You got an Ohioson's project here, we have one in Hawaiian. Yeah,

1602
01:22:58,439 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 13: it's at the law school.

1603
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 4: Do you miss being back in the courtroom and you

1604
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:02,639
Speaker 4: want to get back there.

1605
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 10: Now, you know?

1606
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 1: So I'm suing.

1607
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 13: So Algertarstein and David Grier are representing me here to sue.

1608
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 13: The state actually sued the Supreme Court of Ohio arguing

1609
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:20,760
Speaker 13: that their permanent disbarment at me violates the American with

1610
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:26,439
Speaker 13: Disabilities Act. Because you know, those of us that are

1611
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 13: recovering drug addicts, right and that are in recovery have

1612
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:33,720
Speaker 13: a right to continue our profession once we go through

1613
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 13: treatment and stay sober, you know what I mean, there's

1614
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:38,520
Speaker 13: no you know, doctors.

1615
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:39,080
Speaker 1: Allowed to go back.

1616
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:42,640
Speaker 13: Other lawyers in Ohio have been you know, you know,

1617
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:45,680
Speaker 13: addicted to drugs and they're still practicing, you know. And

1618
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 13: so like I said, man to me, I didn't get

1619
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:51,400
Speaker 13: this bar for what I did. I got this bar

1620
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:53,200
Speaker 13: for who I was, you know what I mean.

1621
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:55,960
Speaker 4: And other states would let you practice. You can be

1622
01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 4: practicing if it was another state.

1623
01:23:57,560 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 13: I man, there's lawyers right down there now that they

1624
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 13: did the same thing I did, just still practice.

1625
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:01,760
Speaker 2: Right.

1626
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 13: But you know, like I said, you know, God has

1627
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:07,639
Speaker 13: his own plans. Because it wasn't for all this stuff,

1628
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 13: I wouldn't ended up in Hawaiian. I wouldn't be a

1629
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 13: tenured professor there, you know what I mean, teaching other

1630
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:15,120
Speaker 13: students how to go out and fight cases and stuff.

1631
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 13: And I love teaching, man, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love it.

1632
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 4: And it's got to be you know, these cats coming

1633
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 4: there with the bright eyes and telling them stuff that

1634
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 4: they never even realized before.

1635
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 1: That's the fun part of it.

1636
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 13: I'm not like your other professors. I actually did something,

1637
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 13: you know, right. The rest of these people, they just

1638
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 13: came out of law school and they started teaching about

1639
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:35,680
Speaker 13: what they think the law is.

1640
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. So the students love it.

1641
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 4: I guess people sign up for your class trying to

1642
01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 4: get in your class.

1643
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, we have a waiting I have a

1644
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 1: waiting liss on my class. I figure. Yeah, yeah, I

1645
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:49,760
Speaker 1: love what I'm doing. And uh, it's just been a blessing. Man,

1646
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:50,679
Speaker 1: it's just been a blessing.

1647
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 4: Now, what do you think about you were part of

1648
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 4: the collaborative agreement. It's still going on. They're trying to

1649
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 4: you know, trying to get it out of here, but

1650
01:24:57,479 --> 01:24:59,640
Speaker 4: it's still here. So I know that's got to make

1651
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 4: you feel good.

1652
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you know.

1653
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:03,559
Speaker 13: And and I think you, like I said, the stuff

1654
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:07,599
Speaker 13: going on with IRIS, you know, to me, it's I mean,

1655
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 13: everybody knows that's ridiculous.

1656
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:11,800
Speaker 1: And that's that's just And and again I think that

1657
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 1: indicatese why should still be in place?

1658
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 13: The the arrest you know, uh uh you know uh

1659
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 13: that that we're talking about, the braw and all that. Yeah, right,

1660
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:23,759
Speaker 13: and and and you know, the the selective police arrest

1661
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:25,720
Speaker 13: and what what we're gonna charge you with and we're

1662
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:27,719
Speaker 13: gonna help you out that still exists.

1663
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 1: It ain't changed.

1664
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:31,280
Speaker 13: So if it hasn't changed, and there's no need to

1665
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 13: get rid of collaborative and in fact, uh, the argument

1666
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 13: could be made it's more uh need for it. I mean,

1667
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 13: look compared to when the Supreme Court a few years

1668
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:45,640
Speaker 13: ago said we don't need the Voting Rights Act anymore, so.

1669
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:46,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna get rid of it.

1670
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:48,280
Speaker 13: As soon as they got rid of it, now they

1671
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 13: double down on making voting a lot lot and they

1672
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 13: can do it legally. You get rid of the collaborative,

1673
01:25:56,920 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 13: you're gonna have the same type of we're gonna go

1674
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 13: back at doing what we do. And this time y'all

1675
01:26:01,479 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 13: got y'all gonna have to see us, and this time

1676
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:04,000
Speaker 13: we ain't gonna agree.

1677
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:04,679
Speaker 1: We're gonna fight.

1678
01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 4: And uh, they wouldn't have to release video, you know,

1679
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 4: like they do now. You know, in a hurry in

1680
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 4: so many hours they're releasing video. We're finding out stuff

1681
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:18,559
Speaker 4: like we would not be able to do without the collaborative.

1682
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:21,680
Speaker 13: Right, right, you know, And and again that's that's the

1683
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 13: reason why they wanted over with right because they don't

1684
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 13: want this stuff to come to light.

1685
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:27,720
Speaker 1: Man.

1686
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 4: I tell you, uh boy, you you're tenured, your tenured

1687
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:34,639
Speaker 4: professor now. And I mean that's that's when you get

1688
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 4: there that you got it made.

1689
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 1: I got. I got tengured back in twenty nineteen. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1690
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 13: And I'm the first professor at in law school that

1691
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:48,599
Speaker 13: that has been tenured with their criminal record.

1692
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:51,920
Speaker 1: That's why I said, man, God can't stop. You know

1693
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Gee, that's look at you know. So

1694
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you this because uh, you talked about

1695
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 1: you already.

1696
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 13: We talked about my adoption publicly and stuff like that before, right,

1697
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:07,639
Speaker 13: And so I'm gonna tell you something I found out

1698
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 13: that was just crazy. Man. So most people know I

1699
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:13,479
Speaker 13: when they may not know because I've been gone for

1700
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 13: one But I was adopted. My mother was white, she

1701
01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 13: was Italian. When my mother got pregnant with me, they

1702
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:22,680
Speaker 13: put her family put her in the Longview Mental State Institution.

1703
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 13: I was born in Longview Mental State Hospital. And so

1704
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 13: back then in nineteen sixty three, the year I was born,

1705
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:33,640
Speaker 13: the adoption records were closed, which means that you know,

1706
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 13: once you got adopted, you got a new birth certificate

1707
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 13: and if you went back to try to you could

1708
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 13: never find out, you know, who your.

1709
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 1: Real parish for or anything like that.

1710
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 13: It's Ohio opened up their records I think in twenty nineteen.

1711
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 13: So you know, like last year, I finally was like, okay,

1712
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 13: let me go get my original birth certificate and stuff

1713
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 13: like that. So when I found out and so they

1714
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 13: put on my original birth certificate that my father was white.

1715
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,960
Speaker 13: And so my original birth certificate that has me as white.

1716
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:03,840
Speaker 6: Right.

1717
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:06,680
Speaker 1: So then when my black family came to adopt me,

1718
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 1: you know.

1719
01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:10,240
Speaker 13: Two years later at the orphanage, they weren't allowed to

1720
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 13: do that because black people couldn't adopt a white baby, right,

1721
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 13: And so my father who adopted me, ended up going

1722
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:22,599
Speaker 13: to court. And so, uh, in my in my adoption records, man,

1723
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 13: there's a there's a judgment from a probate court judge. Okay,

1724
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:30,760
Speaker 13: there's an Amphi David, a declaration signed by the Archdiocese

1725
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:34,280
Speaker 13: of Cincinnati who says that my father was black. Now,

1726
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:36,320
Speaker 13: how in the hell he could swear under oath that

1727
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 13: my daddy was black? I have absolutely no his AFFI

1728
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:41,640
Speaker 13: David is in there. And then the judge ruled that

1729
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 13: now I'm black. So I was just I thought that

1730
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 13: I tell you the story about how I was a

1731
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 13: white boy, that that that that I was born white

1732
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:53,959
Speaker 13: and now I'm black. They took away my white privilege.

1733
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:54,160
Speaker 10: Man.

1734
01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 4: Now did they list the name of the black father? No?

1735
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:00,960
Speaker 13: No, No, they just said I was black, right, right,

1736
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 13: right right? They just had father white on my original

1737
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:06,600
Speaker 13: black racket, right, you know.

1738
01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, unbelievable. They had me as a white baby.

1739
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 4: And because you know, there was people saying that your

1740
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:15,800
Speaker 4: mother dated as Charles and that you could be the

1741
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:17,560
Speaker 4: son of Ezerk Charles.

1742
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 13: When he worked at the he used to work after

1743
01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:23,639
Speaker 13: he retired, he worked at a nightclub a guy named

1744
01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:25,760
Speaker 13: Screw Andrews on the nightclub.

1745
01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:28,120
Speaker 1: On Covington there in Covington. Yeah, so he was the

1746
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:30,560
Speaker 1: court I think it was Newport. Yeah, unbelievable.

1747
01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:32,559
Speaker 4: And you kind of looked like him on the statue.

1748
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:34,400
Speaker 4: I don't know if you've ever seen the statue down there,

1749
01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 4: but you kind of.

1750
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 1: Look like as a Charles.

1751
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:38,880
Speaker 4: I don't know. Let's take a quick break.

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01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:39,840
Speaker 1: It will come back a

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Speaker 4: Few more minutes here with Ken Lawson, Attorney, Ken Lawson,

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Speaker 4: twelve thirty The Buzz