1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Ethan. You may have heard there's a lot of drama 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: with the IEDC here in the state of Indiana. 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 2: I think I have heard a thing or two about that, 4 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 2: some some controversy. 5 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 3: Some would say, yeah, look, we're not letting this go. 6 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: Of course, IEDC Indian Economic Development Corporation, and this forensic 7 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: audit that came out that essentially showed hundreds of millions 8 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: of dollars over the past three years from twenty two 9 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: to twenty four really really just given away. 10 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: Massive conflicts of interest and yet no criminal wrongdoing. We're told, 11 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 2: just some ethical considerations, but they'll fix that in the future. 12 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 3: Well, don't worry. 13 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 1: Well, and we've touched on that, which is now that 14 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: the information is out in which money was taken from 15 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: poor and middle class people and then given to this 16 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: shadow quasi government entity, and then those dollars, much of them, 17 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: went to companies, to organizations, to people who are connected 18 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: with the people who are making the decisions. I think 19 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: the five alarm fire now is that the governor came 20 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: out and declared there no criminal wrongdoing, but then says 21 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: it's going to go to the Inspector General, when that's 22 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: the job of the inspector General to decide if it 23 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: needs to be forwarded to law enforcement for criminal proceedings. 24 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense there, Rob, 25 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 2: It makes about as much sense as the IEDC giving 26 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 2: money to the Colts organization to advertise on the stadium. 27 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 2: What is the Indiana Economic Development Corporation advertising in the Colts. 28 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: Yes, we will give you money, come to us. But 29 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: our next guest has been fighting, and he's been on 30 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: this program multiple times over the years. Has been fighting 31 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: the Indian Economic Development Corporation for years, and he's been 32 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 1: fighting the Leap District, which is the well, the poster 33 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: child for all that's wrong with the IEDC. And then 34 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 1: part of that forensic audit with something like four hundred 35 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: plus million dollars of our money has gone to the 36 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: Leap Innovation District out in Lebanon. Jim Love joins us 37 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: now a Farmer's farmer. Jim Love, Hello, Hello, Rob, thank 38 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: you for having us back. 39 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 40 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 3: Absolutely, So. 41 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: You have a new piece out along with Brian Daggy 42 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: in the Indiana Capital Chronicle. Now, you're a part of 43 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: the Bune County Preservation Group which has been fighting Leap, 44 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: fighting IEDC. Tell us about the piece you guys wrought, 45 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: which thought was very well written, just going right at 46 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: the heart of these things that are wrong with IEDC. 47 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 5: So generally, what we are for is we are for 48 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 5: a responsible development of farmland, responsible development of the resources 49 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 5: we have, and making sure that the resources that we 50 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,679 Speaker 5: have are used so that the future generations have some 51 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 5: place to live and have resources to work with. And 52 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 5: so these arsonists that are taking there are resources right 53 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 5: now and burning them to the ground in an effort 54 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 5: to either build fortune and fame or build their resume 55 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 5: or for whatever the reason, lots of which doesn't make 56 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 5: sense until this audit comes out, and then things seem 57 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 5: to straighten themselves out a little bit because it seems 58 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 5: unconscionable that are the people that sit in the seats 59 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 5: of political leadership. I would call them political leaders, but 60 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 5: they're not. They're just the people that sit in those 61 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 5: seats would vote so dramatically against the constituents that they're 62 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 5: meant to represent. And so we said once again that 63 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 5: now that we've had this audit come out and it 64 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 5: shows that this money has misappropriated, that it's time for 65 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 5: some real accountability. And so this business of where politicians 66 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 5: can do things that are close to illegal or illegal. 67 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 5: If you did that in the private sector, you'd lose 68 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 5: your job. So that was what like we just touched on, 69 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 5: and I want you to go into this little bit. 70 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 5: This is what's maddening to me. So bron spends all 71 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 5: this money, eight hundred thousand dollars do this audit. It 72 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 5: reveals all the stuff that people like Ethan and I 73 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 5: have talked about for years, which is that the indiot 74 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 5: Economic Development Corporation is just a glorified legalized money laundering operation. 75 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 3: And then the governor. 76 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: Like totally contradicts himself by going, well, it's going to 77 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: the Inspector General, but then also says, well, nothing criminal happened. 78 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: That's up for the Inspector General to decide, but he's already 79 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: compromised the investigation. 80 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 5: Well, it's a classic problem where government is unable to 81 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 5: police itself, and it's it's just human nature. If your 82 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 5: wife said you're drinking too much beer and eating too 83 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 5: much pizza, and you said, I will do an audit 84 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 5: on that deer and I'll get back. 85 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 3: With you, you. 86 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 5: Would probably call your buddies and you would concur that 87 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 5: everything is a okay. And so that's The problem is 88 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 5: that the government decides, hey, we're going to audit ourselves 89 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 5: and we're going to make sure that we're above the board, 90 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 5: and they always come back that they're just slightly above 91 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 5: the board enough that you can see a freckle on them. 92 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, the right. 93 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: And this is the other part that's frustrating is they 94 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: write the rules special for themselves because they're in this 95 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: quasi shadow government entity where, let's face it, thirty conflicts 96 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: of interest ethan. We talked about this in the program. 97 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: If you're a local government official and you violet the 98 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: conflict of interest statute, that could be a felony you 99 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: And there's thirty of these here, And well, it's different 100 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: for them because they're they write the thrown rules in 101 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: their quasi government entity. 102 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 5: Well, and the IEHC is as a brilliant animal because 103 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 5: it is a government when they need to drop the 104 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 5: hammer and force somebody to do something or intimidate somebody 105 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 5: to do something, and then their non government when they need. 106 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 3: To follow some rules that would be associated with the government. 107 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 2: There's also an enormous amount of hypocrisy here because they're 108 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 2: trying to offload responsibility for this malfeasance on prior administrations. 109 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: Oh well, you know, we just got sworn into office. 110 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: This isn't our administration's fault. Is the previous administration that 111 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 2: did that. And there's nothing that we can do to 112 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: fix about it. So, you know, we'll wash our hands 113 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 2: and do better in the future. But it begs the question, 114 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 2: at what point are our elected leaders to be held 115 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: accountable for what's going on with our money? 116 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 5: Well, and if you actually follow the train of people 117 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 5: that are associates through this, it's not necessarily a new 118 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 5: group of players. It's just a different group of players 119 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 5: with different titles. 120 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: Jim Love is our guest. He is with the Boone 121 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: County Preservation Group. Fabulous new piece out in the Indiana 122 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: Capitol Chronicle about the IEDC, about what has gone on. 123 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: One of the things that came out. And I'm sure 124 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: you're much more on this than I am, and I was. 125 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: I think I was low on that one. I said 126 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: four hundred it's close to five hundred million of public money, 127 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: most of it public money went into this leap district, 128 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: this mega development in Boon County. You live out there. 129 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: What are you guys getting as a result of this? 130 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: What are I guess, most importantly, what are we getting 131 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: because we're it seems like we're paying the tab as 132 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: a state, but I don't understand what the return on 133 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: investment is, do you know? 134 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 5: Well, so we provide a spot for Eelay Lily to 135 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 5: come up and build their facility, which is probably going 136 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 5: to bring some jobs. Looks like it definitely will. And 137 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 5: then the latest thing now is I believe what we're 138 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 5: trying to do is we're trying to burn ground to 139 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 5: get it off IDC's books. So we've invited Meta to 140 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 5: come up and burn an enormous amount of electricity which 141 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 5: we did not have, and consume a bunch of water. 142 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 5: And before we leave today, we need to visit about 143 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 5: that water because the water is going to be the 144 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 5: problem that Central Indiana will have into the future. 145 00:06:58,200 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 3: Let's talk about that. 146 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: But real quick, I want you to remind everybody, because 147 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: you've been on this program multiple times before. 148 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 3: But how iedes what about this? 149 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 5: Where? 150 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: And then you go into some detail of this. They 151 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: basically went to your fellow farmers and they said, hey, 152 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: where the you talked about being the government when they 153 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: want to be the government, We're the government. You don't 154 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: technically have to sell to us, but you're going to 155 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: end up losing in the end anyway. So you can 156 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: either fight us or you can take this very large 157 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: premium we're willing to pay for your ground. Either way, 158 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: it's you're going to end up. You're going to end 159 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: up in the same position. You might as well just 160 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: make it easy on yourself. 161 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 5: Basically, yeah, they basically said, hey, good luck. You can 162 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 5: either fight us or you can go with us. But 163 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 5: the interesting thing about this is these large sums of 164 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 5: money that they're paying for this land compared to the 165 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 5: amount of money that these people are spending to build 166 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 5: these facilities, the cost of land is inconsequential, and so 167 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 5: that's why they can come in and wield a big stick, 168 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 5: and the numbers are enormous and they make the people 169 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 5: that have had land very powerful out purchasing land in 170 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 5: the secondary landmarket. However, to the project, it's just such 171 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 5: an significant part of it. So yeah, they've come in, 172 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 5: they've put the land package together through secrecy, and they 173 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 5: made people sign NDA's which was foolish that people even 174 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 5: were willing to do that, because you should be able 175 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 5: to talk to your neighbors about what you're doing, but 176 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 5: they forced people to do that. So they've got all 177 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 5: this ground put together and so now it's under contract 178 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 5: for purchase agreement. And I really believe that what they're 179 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 5: trying to do is they're trying to get it off 180 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 5: their books. So instead of building this stuff compressed, they're 181 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 5: building this stuff in a real spread out fashion. 182 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: So tell us about the water issue, because there's two 183 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: major I mean, look, there's the money that's been spent 184 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: and then there's the farm crowd that's gobbled up. But 185 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: the big concern is the lack of water and the 186 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: power issue. And the water I think the last time 187 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: we talked to you, there was this huge controversy about 188 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: where they're going to get the water from. They were 189 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: trying to get it out of typical New County, typical 190 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 1: New counties fighting back. 191 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 3: What's going on with that? 192 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 5: So the current savior for water is going to be 193 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 5: citizen's energy and the plan is and this should do 194 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 5: you have any listeners in the hamil accounts? 195 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: Oh, we got a couple that's I was told nobody's listening, 196 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: But then we see fifty thousand people that they are listening. Well, 197 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: somewhere in between zero and fifty thousand. Jim, take a 198 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: shot at it. 199 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 5: Well, here's something that those folks should be concerned with. 200 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 5: So they're going to bring twenty five million gallons of 201 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 5: water from the east. Well, where is extra water in 202 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 5: the east in Indiana? I mean to look at the 203 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 5: growth of Indiana. 204 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 3: It's in the east. 205 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 5: And the gentlemen that we were at a meeting one 206 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 5: night that had ran Westfield's water plant said that what 207 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 5: they do over there is they keep punching wells down 208 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 5: in the White River aquifer, and when one municipality's well 209 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 5: goes dry, they punch a deeper one and screw. 210 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 3: The rest of them. 211 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 5: So if you live in any of those areas and 212 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 5: you're wondering, how do they have extra waters send to us, 213 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 5: that's anybody's mystery. Because now we've got a data center 214 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 5: that's going to need five million gallons of water and 215 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 5: we and it's just not there. We're also going to 216 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 5: use ten times the highest rate that our local utility 217 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 5: has ever used in a day. The Meta facility will 218 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 5: use ten x that rate. So they're having to build 219 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 5: new power lines, which will ultimately end up in rate 220 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 5: payers pockets somehow. 221 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 2: And you know, It's also a shame you mentioned on 222 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 2: the amount of farmland that's getting gobbled up by these 223 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 2: concrete megastructures, because once you have put those concrete foundations 224 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 2: deep into the earth, it's often not financially feasible to 225 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: return that to arable farm land because it's going to 226 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 2: require millions of dollars of remediation to take all the 227 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 2: foundation and the concrete and the gravel and the things 228 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 2: out of the soil just to get it back. So 229 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 2: once it's gobbled up, it's gone, essentially, and that's just 230 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 2: for an agricultural state like Indiana. 231 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 3: It's a crying shame. Yeah, you can never return that 232 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 3: ground back. 233 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 5: If you watch what's going on in these buildings, the 234 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 5: ground is so good where we're at that they are 235 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 5: having to use lime to lime stabilize it. And the 236 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 5: amount of lime they have pumped into the ground to 237 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 5: try to firm up this ground so that they can 238 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 5: build these roads and a bunch of these buildings is 239 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 5: just incredible. And so yeah, that land is never going 240 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 5: to be brought back into production. It will have to 241 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 5: be into some kind of a commercial endeavor. 242 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: In death, We'll get you out here with this, Jim Yeah, 243 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: I get called a old man who yells at clouds 244 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: quite a bit, right, But I like you. I'm not 245 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: as young as I used to be, but as young 246 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: as I'll ever be, right I Because I see this 247 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: happen in my hometown, and I see this what's happened 248 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: to you guys. It makes me sad because fields and farming. 249 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: Not that I grew up on a farm or was 250 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: a farmer, but seeing and being around your friends, your family, 251 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: the people you grew you know, you grew up with 252 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: that that farming was, or people you consider to be 253 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: like your family. This is this was what we were, 254 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: what Central Indiana was, It's what you knew, It's it's 255 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: what you There was something great about it and it's 256 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: all gone now and it just seems like it's these 257 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: high density housing developments of a bunch of people who 258 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: in large part don't connect with the community or don't 259 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: have any tie to the history of the community, or 260 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: these mega buildings that are lifeless, that are dystopian, and 261 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: I just see this stuff go away and it goes 262 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: It just makes me feel so sad to see what's 263 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: become of it. Am I just am I totally a base. 264 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 1: I feel like with you, I have sort of a 265 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: kinship with that and the people that you are working 266 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: with to try to put a stop to some of 267 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: this madness. 268 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 5: It is sad because it has been the tradition here. 269 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 5: We were the largest industry in the state of Indiana 270 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 5: for years. But it even goes deeper than that. Is folks. 271 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 5: Now there seems to be a big push to eat 272 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 5: more natural, eat healthy things. And the only way anybody 273 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 5: knows how to do that is by using this earth 274 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 5: that we've been blessed with and we've been given to 275 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 5: be a steward of, and it is growth. Crops, raise, animals, 276 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 5: do things to create healthy food sources. And without that, 277 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 5: nobody wants to eat synthetic food, regardless of what some 278 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 5: of the billionaires in this country think would be a 279 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 5: great idea. And nobody really wants to eat crickets so 280 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 5: that they as a protein source. So if you want 281 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 5: healthy food, we're going to have to keep some of 282 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 5: this farmland, and all farmland is not equal. That's the 283 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 5: other thing. There's a great misconception because they say, well, 284 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 5: just just go to Nebraska, just go to Kansas. Well, 285 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 5: I get to travel a lot of those areas and 286 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 5: rest assured we can do great things in central Indiana 287 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 5: without using additional water sources, which is awesome, and grow good, 288 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 5: healthy food to keep feeding a hungry world. 289 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: Jim Love of the Boone County Preservation Group, Thanks for 290 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:25,719 Speaker 1: the fight, my friend. Keep it up. 291 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 3: Thanks Rob. 292 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Kennelly Casey Show ninety three WIBC so North 293 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: Carolina getting into the redistricting game. This whole thing is stupid, 294 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: beyond belief. It's Kennelly Casey showing Rob Casey's on the 295 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: afternoon show today. Ethan Hatcher setting out of the circle 296 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: in for Casey. So it's amazing to me. Ethan. I 297 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: call it like a shapeshifter argument on redistricting, that they'll 298 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: make it whatever they need it to be the people 299 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: who want the redistricting, which is Nathan Gotsch from Independent 300 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: Indiana was on earlier today talking about their poll done 301 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: by a Republican polster shows overwhelming the people in the 302 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: state are against redistricting. People just aren't for this because 303 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: they see it for what it is, and the Republicans 304 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: don't give them any reason to be excited about gaming 305 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: the system. 306 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 3: Well, and that's exactly what it is. 307 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: It's a political process, and it's currently being manipulated for 308 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 2: political ends. But that's a very dangerous game when you're 309 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: talking about a system that's designed to be representative of 310 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 2: the people, and this is seeking to circumvent that representation. 311 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, we had David Shelton on yesterday, who's a Knox 312 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: County clerk. He's running for Secretary of State. He's apparently 313 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: foot flopped on redistricting. He was against it just last 314 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: month and now he appears to be for And he 315 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: didn't really have any answer for that. The answer is 316 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: it's political, well, right, and so I've asked him yesterday, 317 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: and you have an answer this either. I said, this 318 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: is ridiculous to say, well, Indiana's a red state, we 319 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: should have red representation. Indiana is not a one hundred 320 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: percent red state. It's a sixty to forty state, sixty 321 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: percent generic Republican versus generic Democrat, all things being equal, 322 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: That's probably about what you're going to get on the 323 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: vote result. Maybe a little less, but you get the idea. 324 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: We currently have seventy eight percent of our congressional seats 325 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: are held by Republicans, were already tilted in a Republican way, 326 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: and what he didn't have an answer for is. I said, well, 327 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: then why don't we just declare whoever wins the presidential 328 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: race gets all the seats California, New York, Indiana, Texas. 329 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 3: Why don't we just do that? And there's no answer 330 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 3: for that. 331 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: Because that's utterly ridiculous. Which brings me to North Carolina, 332 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: in which I think Trump won. I saw this posted 333 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: yesterday by my buddy Steve, who's mister data man, and 334 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: we referenced Steve quite a bit on this show. He's 335 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: a former local newspaper writer who's great with facts and figures. 336 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: I think Trump won less than fifty one percent of 337 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: the vote in North Carolina in twenty twenty four. Are 338 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: you looking that? 339 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 6: I am. 340 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 3: I am looking that up now. 341 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: I think he won less than fifty one percent of 342 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: the vote in twenty twenty four, and yet their representation 343 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: is currently fifty nine percent of the vote. So that's 344 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: a swing state. Like that is right, that's right down 345 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: the middle. It could go either way both times. It 346 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: tends to go Republican, but they have a Democrat governor. 347 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: You know, their their Senate races are close. It's a 348 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: like sort of the ultimate swing state, and yet they 349 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: already have a ten to four Republican map, and now 350 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: they're about to go in again and make it eleven three. 351 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: And I can tell you as someone who owned a 352 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: business in North Carolina for years. 353 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 3: It is not an eleven three state. 354 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: It is exactly what the presidential election was, which is 355 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: fifty one forty nine. And so Republicans like in Indiana 356 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: are trying to act like this stuff isn't going on 357 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: in all of these other states. You got Ohio that's 358 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: going to do it. You've got Missouri that's trying to 359 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: do it. You've got Texas which has already done it. 360 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: You've got Louisiana considering it. Like all of these other 361 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: states are doing this, and we try to act like 362 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: the apologist here, try to act like, well, if Indiana 363 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: doesn't do it, then everything's going to go up and smoke. No, 364 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: other states, which are less Republican than Indiana are already 365 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: doing this. And it's equally or even more ridiculous there. 366 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 2: And it's kind of a fascinating conversation to begin with, 367 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 2: that you can fidget with the borders of congressional representation 368 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 2: to achieve this outcome that people's voting habits are predictable 369 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 2: as a byproduct of their geography, and so all you 370 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 2: have to do is fidget with that geography to affect 371 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 2: the desired outcome. 372 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: And I know, we got a lot of messages, and 373 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 1: I love all of our listeners when we took those 374 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: phone calls yesterday from people calling in and then I got 375 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: a lot of messages. And the only thing I hear 376 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: from people who are for it is, well, we can't 377 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: let the Democrats take control. That's it. They straight up 378 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: own Republicans are bad at governing, They straight up own 379 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: our maps are already fair. Well, we just can't let 380 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: the Democrats have control. And my point to those people is, 381 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: if you're willing to accept a slow walk to insolvency 382 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: as a nation, I kind of think maybe you're part 383 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,479 Speaker 1: of the problem because the Republicans are not going to 384 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: ever change. You have the ability to make the Republicans change. 385 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: They can be better. They're choosing not to be because 386 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: you keep voting in fear, you keep rolling over no 387 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: matter oh I can't say that, no matter what crap 388 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: sandwich they serve you, and going, well this is horrible, 389 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: but well, I can't have the Democrats Okay, I guess 390 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,719 Speaker 1: I'll accept whatever you give me, and I just I 391 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: resoundingly reject that. And it pains me that so many 392 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: people still make this just a two option choice here 393 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: when there's a third option which says, no, tell these 394 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 1: people get their act together. You're not supporting them until 395 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: they do, and then they will get their act together. 396 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,239 Speaker 2: Well, that's also part of the problem, because when you 397 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 2: create these uber safe, guaranteed Republican seats, you get the 398 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 2: worst kind of representation, which we've seen here in Indiana. 399 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 2: The Republican Party's quality has declined as they have cemented 400 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 2: their super majority in the state. There's no reason to 401 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 2: think that this outcome won't be played out in other states. 402 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, let's take a break. We got the news, 403 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 3: and we come back. 404 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: We got some interesting audio from Bill Maher Obama. They're 405 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: both talking about Trump, saying very very different things, and 406 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: so we'll play the We'll play the two left guys 407 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,479 Speaker 1: saying very different things about Trump. When we come back, 408 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: it's Kennel and Case Show ninety three WIBC. Liberal misery 409 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: is interesting to me, and I want to get into 410 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 1: that here. In the second it's Kennel and Casey Show. 411 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: I'm brob Casey's out tea. Actually Casey's in today, she'll 412 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: be in the afternoon show. We'll hear from her coming 413 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: up in just a minute. But Evan Hatcher in for 414 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: a Casey now, I think even we'll back me up 415 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: on this case he does. People will say, well, pop 416 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: meat kettle, you're talking about someone's misery. I am incredibly 417 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: happy in my actual life itself, like my daily existence 418 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: outside of this building and talking about politics, incredibly happy. 419 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: I loathe my government, I loathe what they've done, the 420 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: people who make the choices, and I get, for basically 421 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: three hours a day to come in here and fight 422 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: on that, and then I get to go be happy 423 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: and watch my kid grow up and be a husband 424 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: and a father. 425 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 3: And so. 426 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: It's sort of my life is kind of a weird 427 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: dichotomy in the sense of I am completely miserable in 428 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: the things that I talk about each day in my job, 429 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: but my actual existence I find great happiness. Does that 430 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: make sense, No. 431 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 2: It makes perfect sense, because you work out all your 432 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 2: nervous energy here, and evidence of that is the fact 433 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 2: that you're not like making these weepy TikTok videos and 434 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 2: posting them like some of these blue who heard liberal 435 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 2: you know, nutcases. 436 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: One of the things that it took me a while 437 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: to figure out how to do this and I finally 438 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: was able to do it, is you've got to compartmentalize 439 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: your life if you're going to be in gaged with politics, 440 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: because it is essentially just a den of miserable snakes, 441 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: and anytime you walk into that, you've got to be 442 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 1: able to recognize that's what you're dealing with and you're 443 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: never actually going to defeat it. For the most part. 444 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: You can fight it, which we do here every day, 445 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: but the idea of it's ever going to stop is 446 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: never going to happen. And I think that's a real 447 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: challenge for a lot of people who enter the political arena, 448 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: and I think liberal people tend to struggle to do 449 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: that more maybe than some conservative people. Like a great 450 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: example this would be Keith Olberman. Keith Olberman was at 451 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: one point one of the most famous sports broadcasters in 452 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: the country. He was the Sports center guy. He had 453 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: a great life, he was rich, he talked about sports 454 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: for a living. He had an incredible sports memorabilia collection, 455 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: like he had all of these things dated famous women 456 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: like he had all the things you'd be like, what 457 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 1: a cool life, and his drive over politics and the 458 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 1: misery that it created for him, he just couldn't separate, 459 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 1: to the point that not only did he end up 460 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: alienating himself at ESPN, but then when he got in 461 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: the arena of politics, he flamed out everywhere he went 462 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: because he couldn't separate the personal from the political, and 463 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: he couldn't just be happy as a person. And I 464 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: look at him, he's just some guy who rants on 465 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: the internet. 466 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 467 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 2: I was about to say, he lives his life perpetually online. 468 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 2: And that's the difference, because yours is an exercise in compartmentalization. Yes, 469 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 2: you are incredibly outraged as well. You should be with 470 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 2: the state of Republican governance here in the state of Indiana, 471 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 2: and you report on it regularly here on The Kendlen 472 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 2: Casey Show. But then when you go home, you're able 473 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 2: to leave it aside. Keith Oberman doesn't have that ability, 474 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 2: and that's part of the reason why he's burned out everywhere. 475 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: Okay, So I mentioned all this because Obama was on. 476 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: Mark Marin is a well known comedian. He's been around 477 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 1: for thirty plus years now, has a television shows. He 478 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: was on Dave Letterman for years, and I don't know 479 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 1: about fifteen years ago he started a podcast when that 480 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: was sort of a groundbreaking thing, and this thing blew 481 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: up and in that funny just like fifteen years ago, 482 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: the idea of having a podcast. 483 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 3: A new frontier of podcast. 484 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: It really it really was like, I mean, I think 485 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: about the business that I owned for years, which was 486 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: streaming high school and college sports on the internet, and 487 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: we started this thing in two thousand and six, and 488 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: it was this novel thing, like people weren't doing it, 489 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: and we grew that business and then we got bypassed 490 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 1: by technology over time. But there was about a seven 491 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: or eight year window where it's like, that's so cool. 492 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: These guys do this and that's how they earn their 493 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: they're living. But the podcasting is the same way we 494 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: used to do podcasts for people in the early days, 495 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: and it was this like super advanced thing, that's cool, 496 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: you guys can do a podcast. 497 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: I mean, it was just a totally different technological background. 498 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 2: I mean, back in two thousand and six here in Indiana, 499 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 2: there were still people who had internet that made noises 500 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 2: when you connected to it. 501 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. 502 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: So Mark Maren had this podcast that he got off 503 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 1: the ground to be WTF I think is the name 504 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 1: of the podcast, and it became a very big thing, 505 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,239 Speaker 1: and he announced, Hey, after fifteen sixteen years whatever it's been, 506 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: I'm done with this. It's run its course and I 507 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: want to get off. And he's a liberal guy and 508 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: he was on Air America years ago, but one of 509 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: the guests that kind of made him was he got 510 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 1: Obama shortly after Obama got elected president of the United States, 511 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: and he went on this guy's podcast and that it 512 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,719 Speaker 1: kind of blew up. And so for his final guest, 513 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: he decided it was going to be Obama, and I 514 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,719 Speaker 1: think he went to one of Obama's numerous houses and 515 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: interviewed Obama and they got to talk. They talked about 516 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: a variety of things, and they're talking about Obama gets 517 00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: going on himself and then Trump and you can't see it. 518 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: There's video with this, and you really need to see 519 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: the video to see the body language. But listen to 520 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: kind of just the misery in Obama's the tone of 521 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: Obama's voice as he's talking about Trump becoming president after him, 522 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 1: and I so wish which we can't do here obviously 523 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: because it's radio, but I so wish you could. We 524 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,719 Speaker 1: could show the video with it, because the body language 525 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: is fascinating. Take a listen. 526 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 7: I mean, what was unusual for me was obviously a 527 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 7: lot of what I represented, a lot of what Michelle 528 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 7: and I had tried to project the values are thinking 529 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 7: about America. My successor seemed to represent the opposite, right, 530 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 7: not seemed didn't And so I think there was a 531 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 7: lot of anger, a lot of sadness, some fear among 532 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 7: a big chunk of a country. 533 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 1: Okay, so a couple of things that were super interesting 534 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,719 Speaker 1: to me on that number one, the tone right, like, 535 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: because the guy who came after me I was so 536 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: great and the guy who came after me was so 537 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: different than me, it's an indictment of me, which. 538 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 3: It really was, was right. But then there's also. 539 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 1: Look, the reality in this country is people hate all 540 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: the parties and that's why they pingpong back and forth. 541 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: They're looking for an answer in the government and they 542 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 1: never find it. And that's why we go from you know, 543 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: it went from Clinton to Bush to Obama to Trump 544 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: to Biden to Trump. People are they hate all of 545 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 1: these sides. But yet in Obama's mind, Hey, they loved 546 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: me so much, How could they have done this to me? No, sir, 547 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: they didn't love you. I think the first race there 548 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: was I think there was a group of people and 549 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: then they kind of figured it out. But the second 550 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: Obama election, the Democrats lost thousands, over a thousand seats 551 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 1: between governor's, state house, local governments. During Obama, he's the 552 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 1: only one who lived survived politically, but that was because 553 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: the Republican choice in twenty twelve was Romney and he 554 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: was so bad. But in Obama's mind, I was so 555 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: great and they loved me so much, How could they 556 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: have done this to me? 557 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 2: I also think it's a fascinating insight into his ego 558 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 2: and his entitlement when he was speaking about and it 559 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 2: was what Michelle and I represented to the people. It 560 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 2: was what we represented as a larger force. 561 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 4: You know. 562 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 3: That's well done, thank you. That's one of my best impressions. 563 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 4: Done. 564 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 3: But the idea that he's a. 565 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 2: Symbolic, almost religious kind of figure and not a means 566 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 2: to an end, because people are supporting you and voting 567 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 2: for you for what you can do as a matter 568 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 2: of policy, not what you symbolically represent as a force 569 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 2: of you know, good versus evil or whatever the hell 570 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 2: he was thinking. 571 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, one of the. 572 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: Things that I found and why I had to get 573 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: out of it was I was there for the people. 574 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: Like everything I did, I viewed as how does this 575 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: help my neighbors? And you notice with these guys, there's 576 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 1: never any of that, like you just touched on, there's 577 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: the symbolism of what I represented. When as an elected person, 578 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: whether you're a US senator or a municipal elected official 579 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: or all points in between, if you do it right, 580 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: you should be thinking about how does this make people 581 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: more free, less dependent on government, able to do things 582 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,959 Speaker 1: for themselves, and the betterment of the community or the 583 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: area that I serve in the process. And with these people, 584 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 1: it's always these big ideas that are totally detached from 585 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: those things. And so you have this guy in Obama 586 00:28:55,880 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: who has all of this stuff, right, he's rich, he's 587 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: he's famous, he was the president, he's got all these homes. 588 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: And look at how miserably sounds. And he looked as 589 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: equally miserable as he sounds. Because you're never gonna find 590 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: happiness in the viper den of government, the ideals, the people, 591 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: any of it. 592 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 3: It's all just a bunch of sneaks. 593 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all a bunch of sneaks. 594 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 4: Uh. 595 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: Someone who's not a stake as Casey Daniels, and she 596 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: will join us next. She's doing the Afternoon Today. We'll 597 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: find out they're gonna be talking about Kennel and Casey 598 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: Show ninety three WIBC. She is one half of the 599 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: Afternoon Show again today and normally she's won half of 600 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: this award winning program. She joins us now in the 601 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: WIBC hotline. 602 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 4: Casey Daniels, Hello, Hey, good morning, Robin Ethan. How are 603 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 4: you guys today? 604 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: Well, we're doing great, Casey, because I don't know have 605 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: you heard earlier Nathan Gotch from Independent Indiana friend of 606 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: our show, was on new poll numbers out and it 607 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: shows everyone hates Mike Brawn. 608 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 4: You know what, I'm just gonna you're reading this pool 609 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 4: myself and I'm I'm really noticing based on the other 610 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 4: poll from three Dy Strategic Research and also north Star 611 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 4: Opinion Research that wow, he is really underperforming Donald Trump. 612 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 4: And I'm told that Indiana is a deep red state. 613 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 4: So what's going on? 614 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 615 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: So that's the interesting thing, right. We hear it from 616 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: our audience every single day when we get the emails, 617 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: the online messages, et cetera. And you and I have 618 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: pondered this before. Does Braun have any idea what's actually 619 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: going on? 620 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 4: You know? 621 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: We Joe could he ever run a Twitter? You know, 622 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: could he tweet if his life dependent on it? But 623 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: it appears he's totally aloof to what's going on around him. 624 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: Because there's another poll out that we just revealed the 625 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: day where people hate. 626 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 4: His guts, Yeah, getting some unfavorable marks, forty six percent 627 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 4: unfavorable and boy another one forty three percent unfavorable. And 628 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 4: I noticed that a couple of these polls also put 629 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 4: the lieutenant governor in there. He's getting some unfavorable remarks. 630 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 8: So it's the Secretary of State Diego. 631 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 4: Morales twenty one percent unfavorable. 632 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 8: But you have to also take away if, for example, 633 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 8: the Secretary of State Diego Morales is getting nine percent 634 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 8: favorable and twenty one percent unfavorable, well that leaves about 635 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 8: seventy percent of people who don't know who he is. 636 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's what's very interesting. But like I said, 637 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: we take credit because Diego's unfavorables in Central Indiana, even 638 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: though he's underwater across the state, they're higher here in 639 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: Central Indiana. And I think we get the credit for 640 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: those extra people who can't stand him. 641 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, and when you look at our state senators, let's 642 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 4: see Todd Young is scoring higher marks than Jim Banks. 643 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 4: What do you make of that? Is it because he's 644 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 4: been in office longer so people are more familiar with him? 645 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if you. 646 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: Knew this case he's a marine. 647 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 4: I've heard that. 648 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 8: Somebody told me that one time. 649 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, Casey is our game, as she will be. She 650 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: did not take the day off. She will once again 651 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: be filling in this afternoon with her husband. Jim, what's 652 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: it like to have to work with your husband? 653 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 4: Doesn't everybody want to have a take their spouse to 654 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 4: work day? I tell you all the time to have 655 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 4: Gabrielle come in and do the show with you. Why 656 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 4: don't you ask him what's it like working with your spouse? Oh? 657 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 6: Answer for Casey on that, what's it like working with me? 658 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 6: I believe it's very similar to your interview with Donald Trump. 659 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: Everybody calls it a great dream. 660 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,479 Speaker 4: You know, we're sitting here in the kitchen prepping out 661 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 4: the show for tomorrow. So working together is kind of 662 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 4: like there's no escape from the politic rob It's happening 663 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 4: all the time everywhere. 664 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 3: Hey, both of you guys. 665 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: Casey, you're on a heater with Notre Dame Hammer and 666 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: I aren't doing the show for college until tomorrow because 667 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: he's still out of town. That Irish spread now against 668 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: USC is up to nine and a half. Notre Dame 669 00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: is giving nine and a half against USC. That seems 670 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: like a lot of points. 671 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 3: I would have. 672 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 4: Played that bet when it was seven and a half 673 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 4: night you had to wait a day. Now it's nine 674 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 4: and a half. 675 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 3: I don't know. 676 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 4: I still think Notre Dame ranked thirteen, they're gonna win 677 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 4: over over USC. Are we taking the points? Jim? 678 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: Your wife's on a heater? 679 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 3: What do you say? Well? 680 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 6: I think we'll maybe take a deeper look at the 681 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 6: over under on that, because you're right, nine and a 682 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 6: half points is an incredible amount. 683 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 3: Sixty one sixty one and a half. That's the over 684 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 3: under right now. 685 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 6: I like the over on that first glance, first opinion, 686 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 6: I liked the over on that. 687 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's bad. Okay, So Jim and Casey filling 688 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: in for Hammer and Nigel this afternoon. What are you 689 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: guys going to talk about? Like what's interesting to you guys? 690 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 4: You know what I saw which I find really interesting 691 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,239 Speaker 4: is Home Depot. I don't know if you're aware of this. 692 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 4: They have this program called path to pro and it's 693 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 4: pre trade training. They're preparing people for a career within 694 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 4: the trades. They offer basic skills, trade essentials, additional training, 695 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 4: and it's a free program and it's on demand, so 696 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 4: you do it when you want to do it. So, 697 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 4: for example, if there's somebody who has a son or 698 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 4: a nephew or a grandson who maybe wants to be 699 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 4: a carpenter or a plumber or an electrician, Home Depot 700 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 4: offers free training on their time schedule. I think that's fascinating, 701 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,359 Speaker 4: really helping the next generation with some skills. So we're 702 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 4: going to have a round of working Man workout rockout, 703 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 4: so all songs about the working man. And I feel 704 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 4: like after years of being on with Hammer and Nigel, 705 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 4: Allison should be pretty familiar with this hair metal music. 706 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 4: So we're going to test her skills this afternoon and 707 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 4: see how she does with. 708 00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 3: That hey before we let you guys go. 709 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,919 Speaker 1: Be honest, when old Mooday for the Bears, who had 710 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 1: been like working at an Arby's or something until the 711 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: day before the game when he had that thirty eight 712 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: yard field goal in the rain to win, how nervous were. 713 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 6: You for the Until I'm ninety years old, anytime the 714 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 6: Bears are kicking a potentially game winning field goal, the 715 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 6: double dooint will rattle around in my head. I've been 716 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 6: scarred for life from the double doint. So no, I 717 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:27,240 Speaker 6: had no confidence. 718 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 1: Thought, Yeah, I looked at my old man when that 719 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: ball went through the uprights and I said, that looks 720 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: like it went through the uprights. He's like it did, idiot? 721 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: And I said, did they won? He's yes, Get out 722 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: of my house. 723 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 4: Yeah right right. That's so nice that he lets you 724 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 4: come over and watch that game with him. 725 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 1: All Right, you guys, behave and have a good afternoon 726 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 1: show today. 727 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:46,919 Speaker 4: Thanks Rob. 728 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 1: All right, when we come back, Josh Bain from the 729 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: Indianapolis City County Council will join us. He's gonna win 730 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: on that big expos yesterday that came out in the 731 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: Indie Star and Mere Indy about mor Shenanigans with Joe 732 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: Hogseetat and his right hand maid and Thomas Carl Cook 733 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: It's Kettlecase Show ninety three w IBC. 734 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 4: He you misses. 735 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 3: I was taking hears my torture by the silence and 736 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 3: missing