1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Okay, so we're going to talk about the Epstein stuff, yes, 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: because I was fascinating yesterday what went on in which 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: the victims now have spoken to Congress behind closed doors 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: and then they had. 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 2: The big press rally yesterday. 6 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 3: Yep. 7 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: It's very interesting to me. 8 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, some of the victims were claiming that the government 9 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 4: was shielding wealthy, powerful individuals from accountability by keeping all 10 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 4: of the documents secret. 11 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: No kidding, you don't say none of this makes any sense, right, 12 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: it's the smell test of none of this makes any sense. 13 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: And what I mean. 14 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: By that is you have this guy who clearly was 15 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: involved in some very bad behavior. Now keep in mind Epstein, 16 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: before all this stuff broke, was charged with some very 17 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: serious stuff before and then ended up pleading it down 18 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: and served a very brief jail sentence. I believe it 19 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: wasn't like he wasn't on people's radars. It wasn't like 20 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: this came out of out of nowhere. This guy was 21 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: a just evil, evil, horrible human being who did horrible 22 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: things to young women, and we're just acting like he 23 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: did it all for himself and no one else was involved. 24 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: And that's utterly ridiculous. And people say, if you won't 25 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: come clean on the most basic of stuff, why wouldn't 26 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: we think the absolute worst. 27 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 4: So Massey and Conna. 28 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: Thomas Massey represented it from Kentucky, Republican rote Conna a 29 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: Democrat represented from California. 30 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're urging the Trump administration to release all the 31 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 4: federal files related to this. But Donald Trump and the 32 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 4: Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, they opposed the resolution, 33 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 4: and Johnson supports an alternative bill which is focused on 34 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 4: expanding the existing House over site Committee investigation. 35 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is the thing there, man, and Trump 36 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: is not helping, by the way. Trump continues to call 37 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: this all a hoax. He continues to make it all 38 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: about himself, and people are looking at this going, dude, 39 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: it's not a hoax. Epstein was a real dude. He 40 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: really did some stuff. For you to act like that 41 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: didn't happen, this is not Russia Gate, Like, we know 42 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: this guy lived, we know there are these women who 43 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: are victims. We know it wasn't just for Epstein's own 44 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 1: personal pleasure. And for you to say it's a hoax, 45 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: people are like one, totally disrespectful, totally heartless, and you 46 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: come off as a complete ass because you're saying this 47 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: because you're somehow linked into it. Not linked into it 48 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: in the sense of he was doing any abusing of women, 49 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: but linked in to it in the fact that it 50 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: is clear that there was some relationship between Trump and 51 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. 52 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 4: There's a couple of clips that I want to play 53 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 4: for you. The first one is the attorney for the 54 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 4: Epstein victims saying that Donald Trump actually helped his clients 55 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 4: back in two thousand and nine. 56 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 5: I'll go first, and then I'll let them. They're much 57 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 5: more important than me. But I don't understand why to 58 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 5: hostile act. I can tell you that I talked to 59 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 5: President Clinton, I'm sorry, President Trump, back in two thousand 60 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 5: and nine, and several times after that. 61 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 2: He didn't think that it was a hoax. 62 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 5: Then, in fact, he helped me. He got on the phone, 63 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 5: he told me things that were helping our investigation. Now 64 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 5: our investigation wasn't looking into him, but he was helping us. 65 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 5: Then he didn't treat this as a hoax. So at 66 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 5: this point in time, I would hope that he would 67 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 5: revert back to what he was saying to get elected, 68 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 5: which is I want transparency, this about face that occurred. 69 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 5: None of us understand it. In fact, I don't understand 70 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 5: how this is an issue that's even up for debate. 71 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 5: How do you not stand behind these women after you've 72 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 5: heard their stories and know that hundreds of them were 73 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 5: abused and it was only because files are being kept 74 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 5: in secrecy. The world should know who he is, who 75 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 5: protected him. 76 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: Okay, I've said this before, and this is the perfect examble. 77 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is basically Michael Scott from the Office, Like 78 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: he's a real Michael Scott. You ever watched The Office, 79 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: so most people, I'm sure have that hear my voice 80 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: just in case you can't. 81 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: Steve Carell played this. 82 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: They call it a mockumentary type deal where it's a 83 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: comedy but there's no laugh track. And Steve Carell played 84 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: this just wacky guy that ran a paper company. And 85 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: one of the things about the Michael Scott character is 86 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: he was so incredibly self absorbed, but yet almost naive 87 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: or unaware to the nauseating way that he was self absorbed. 88 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: And there was there's an episode where Michael Scott accidentally 89 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: he makes bacon for himself every morning in bed, but 90 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: he's too lazy to leave the bed so he plugs 91 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: in his George Foreman grill next to his bed, yeah, 92 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: and he accidentally steps on the grill and burns his foot, 93 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: and he makes it out to be this like, you know, 94 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: he's been suffered, you know, third degree burns in a 95 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: fire or something, and the reality is like they're like, 96 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: just put some you know, cream on it, it'll be fine. 97 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: But he's hobbling around on crutches. 98 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 4: He got his feet all wrapped up. 99 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: And in the same episode, Dwight who's his assistant, suffers 100 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: a series his head injury while going to check on 101 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: on Michael, and they have to take him to the hospital. Well, 102 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: Steve Carell, who this guy supposed to be Dwight, he 103 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: is supposed to be like his best good buddy, is 104 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: so inconvenience that he has to go help his friend. 105 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: And then when they. 106 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: Get to the hospital, they do what's called, is it, 107 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: the cat scan to see if there's any head injuries. 108 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: While he's there, he's trying to put his foot in 109 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: the cat scan machine because this writ being told by 110 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: multiple people. 111 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: This is not an issue. It's just a small burn. 112 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: It'll be fine, put some cream out it, he'll be okay. 113 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: He's so absorbed with himself. Everything is about him, and 114 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: this is Trump, right, nobody's saying no, No reasonable person 115 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: is saying that you were on Epstein Island. 116 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: We've kind of moved past that. 117 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: I think that's been even these women refuted, like, hey, 118 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: nobody did anything with Trump. 119 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 2: It's all been like, you're in the clear. 120 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: And instead of looking at that going hey and do anything, 121 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: let me help you however I can, because he's implicated 122 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: from the stamber of his relationship with Epstein. Yeah, like 123 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: not that you did anything nefarious with these women or 124 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: amuse young girls or anything. But he's so self absorbing 125 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: he can't stand any sort of criticism, which the criticism is, hey, 126 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: you were kind of paling around to some degree, allegedly 127 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: with a pretty rotten dude. 128 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. 129 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: He has to make everything about him. 130 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: He's Michael Scott sticking his foot in the cat scan machine, 131 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: and he just can't stand the fact that he is. 132 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 2: In any way looks bad. 133 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: And so he's being an obstructionist and totally demeaning these 134 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: women and these serious things versus just being a helper 135 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: and being done with it. 136 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,799 Speaker 4: He's gone from release the files and a campaign promise 137 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 4: to now it's a total hoax. But as you mentioned, 138 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 4: some of these victims said, you know, note Donald Trump 139 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 4: was not there doing anything bad. 140 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 3: I do have to ask and I know, and it's 141 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 3: just something that I think were compelled to at this 142 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 3: moment with the attention on President Trump, with these questions 143 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 3: are on a part in did anybody see or hear 144 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 3: of the president himself doing anything inappropriate as a related 145 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 3: to Jeffrey Epstein? 146 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 4: No, no, yeah, so it's that. 147 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 1: And then somebody said this in the YouTube chat and 148 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: the right. The other aspect of this is Trump knows 149 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: whatever Epstein was. And by the way, because the government 150 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: won't come clean on what he was, there is no 151 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: theory that's too extreme. Some people wanted to mean people 152 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,679 Speaker 1: if you say, oh, he was connecting to Masad or whatever, well, 153 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: to those people, why won't the government just tell us 154 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: what he was? Until the government is honest, then there 155 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,239 Speaker 1: is no theory too extreme, because there's a reason. 156 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 2: There's a reason I'm not saying he was Massad. 157 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: I'm saying until they come clean with that, every theory 158 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: is valid because they're clearly protecting something very big about 159 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: this guy. And I think it's bigger than just the 160 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: people that he engaged with. So if any person like 161 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: to have that conversation with me, I'd be more than 162 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: willing to have it. 163 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 4: One of the victims said that she was taken on 164 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 4: a trip to Africa with President Clinton and other notable figures. 165 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 4: A lot of these victims and survivors, they say that 166 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 4: they're going to be releasing their own client list. The 167 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 4: question that keeps coming up is why now, Why haven't 168 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 4: you before? And I think part of the answer to 169 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 4: that is because they were afraid they'll get more protection. 170 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: No nobody. 171 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: The problem casey now is there have been so many deceptions, 172 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: so many what are perceived as lies. 173 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: Nobody's going to believe whatever you show them anyway. 174 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: Now, everybody believes there's something massive here, and until that 175 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: massive thing is revealed, they're just going to assume you're 176 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: still hiding things from the right 177 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 4: You're still covering something up.