1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: We tried to tell everybody. Yeah, I mean, we did 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: our part for humanity. And you know, look, I got 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: a giant ego, but I don't say these things just 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: to just to stroke my ego. I say these things 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: because I'm trying to cut off calamity. And yet all 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 1: these MENSA members, these steamed greatest amongst us down the 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: street from US at two hundred Washington on two hundred 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: West Washington Street, have their heads apparently so far jammed 9 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: up their backsides that they can't see the most obvious 10 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: of stuff. And now here we go, it looks like 11 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: we're going to be proven exactly correct. You are going 12 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: to see as we described what it would be the 13 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: wild West next year of school referendums. 14 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, so w An E. Wayne has an article Indiana 15 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: could see upwards of almost one hundred referendums. 16 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: Okay, so Wayne is a Fort Wayne based television station. 17 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: They I believe, right, I believe therefore Wayne. Yeah, and 18 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: obviously there was a school referencem in Fort Wayne which 19 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: failed just the other day. And we said this when 20 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: they were debating this nonsensical, ridiculous gobblygook that they came 21 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: up with. That is Senate Bill one. We said you 22 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: are not you. You the lawmakers, you the governor are 23 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: not addressing several of the core issues and the core 24 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: problems with property taxes. One, if you eliminate the eye, well, 25 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: let even talk about the idea of whether there should 26 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: be property taxes, which there shouldn't. That's your home, you 27 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: bought it, the government didn't have anything to do with it. 28 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: You shouldn't have to pay taxes on something you own 29 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: that doesn't exist anywhere else other than with property taxes. Right, So, 30 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: but let's just operate from the premise that property taxes exist. 31 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: It is utterly ridiculous for any person with an IQ 32 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: of seven would agree with this seven or above would 33 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: agree with this, that you pay taxes based on what 34 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: someone else does with their home. As in, when some 35 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: other guy sells his house and makes money, you get 36 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: punished because your property taxes go up because then they say, 37 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: well it's sold, Yeah, it's sold for whatever. This guy's 38 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: house sold for whatever. So now you're homesordmore and you 39 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: pay more in taxes. That doesn't make any sense to anyone. 40 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 1: That is the problem with property taxes if they're going 41 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: to exist, and that is why they have skyrocketed because 42 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: other people have cashed out, and you being a good 43 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: and decent member of the community who trims their grass 44 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: and waters their lawn and and you know, yes, right, 45 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: you are getting screwed for setting up stable roots in 46 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: your community and living there ten, fifteen, twenty thirty years. 47 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: You get the big punishment while other people get the 48 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 1: big payoff. That's the first part of it. They did 49 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: nothing in this bill to address the systemic the root 50 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: cause of this systemic problem. The other thing they didn't do, 51 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: and they didn't address, is raining in the spending and 52 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: the ability of these local governments of which schools are 53 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: the primary viewser to hold the community hostage. And we said, 54 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: as soon as you pass this bill, you are going 55 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: to see some school corporations aren't even going to wait 56 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: for your stupid little bill to take effect. Were we 57 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: right on that? We were absolutely right on that. Look 58 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: at all the referendums it took place this year, and 59 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: then we said the next year, you are going to 60 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,839 Speaker 1: see a sprint. Now they got to wait till November, 61 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: but you are going to see a sprint for these 62 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: school corporations to try to pass these referendums. Because They're 63 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: not going to take the cut in revenue. They're not 64 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: going to take the decrease in revenue unless you force 65 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: them to do it, and there's nothing that forces them 66 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: to do it. 67 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: According to this article, they say that some school districts 68 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: are already mobilizing for next year. Sure, I'm already planning, 69 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 2: I don't doubt it, which means the opposition needs to 70 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: start planning as well. 71 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: But the problem is, and we saw this like in Amon, 72 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: you have a system set up in which government employees 73 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: can go out and mobilize and lobby in maths else 74 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: for themselves to raise the taxes. Oh and by the way, 75 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: many of these people live in the community. How is 76 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: this not a conflict of interest? They get to vote 77 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: on whether they should financially benefit from people's taxes getting raised. 78 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: That's the system setup. 79 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 2: See. 80 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: This is one of the things that these local governments have, 81 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: these schools, suburban school districts have done. That has happened 82 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: quietly over the past decade decade and a half is 83 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: they have started making these teachers live in the school 84 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: district in order to get the job. And they do 85 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: it under the guys of well, we want people who 86 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: are invested in our community. 87 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 2: No, they want you to be able to vote. 88 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: They want these people to vote when they do these 89 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: school referendums. And so if you start, you know, at 90 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 1: a seven eight, nine hundred person advantage, which you know, 91 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: that's how many employees a lot of these local school 92 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: districts will have. That's it's not we're trying to do 93 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: everything on the uput up. And then you got people 94 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: mobilizing for their own money, and then you got people 95 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 1: their spouses they're voting. You start with conceivably a two 96 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: thousand person advantage in some cases of people who are 97 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: going to financially benefit off of you getting. 98 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 2: Screwed referendums going yeah, but our lawmakers looked at all 99 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: this and said, this seems reasonable to me. Let the 100 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 2: school districts take care of it. So anyway more money, 101 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 2: they're going to have to work for it. 102 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: So what you're going to have now is you're going 103 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: to have these school districts. They're going to try to 104 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: do these referendums. Now, people who like me, it would 105 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: be great sport and fun for me to beat another. One. 106 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: One of the things that I don't think some of 107 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: these school districts are going to think through is that 108 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: you're going to have many of these school board members 109 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: up for reelection while these referendums are on the ballot. 110 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: You're going to now have more people voting because they're 111 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 1: in the general election. You won't be able to just 112 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: mobilize your people like those sneaks, he scoundrels and Amon 113 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: did so. I don't think you're going to see them 114 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: passed at the rate you've seen them pass before. But 115 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: it's ridiculous that you have to even go through this process. 116 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: And I blame the Indiana General Assembly because people like 117 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: us have been screaming about this, and yet they still 118 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: pass this bill that did nothing to curtail to spending. 119 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: It did nothing to increase accountability in local governments across 120 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: the board, including our schools, and it's just made the 121 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: problem infinitely worse. 122 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: Well, and they threatened right, staff cuts, larger classes, reduced programming. 123 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 2: These are all the things we're going to have to 124 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: deal with or they're just. 125 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: Going to do the referendum. Yeah, well, they use kids 126 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: as human shields. It's the only place like what do 127 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: we hear all the time in our business? Hey, Unfortunately 128 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: we had to let blah blah blah, go right, you know, 129 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: and sometimes that person had been here fifteen twenty years. Right. 130 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: Every industry other than government is going through this right now. 131 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: And the question everyone should be asking when these referendums 132 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: pop up in your school district is what did you 133 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: do with all the money, the excess revenue that you 134 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: have received over the past five years. I know what 135 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: they did where I lived. They build a bunch of 136 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: fieldhouses and an extra football field. Oh and they build 137 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: a giant road near my neighbor's backyard to ruin their day. 138 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: So it's going to be a real tough cry for me, 139 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: Argentina Spiel in a lot of these, especially suburban school districts, 140 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: when you're able to point out, look at all this up, 141 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: the tennis courts, all of this stuff that has nothing 142 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: to do with actual in classroom learning, and now you 143 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: come out and cry poor. I don't think a lot 144 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: of people go buy that