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Speaker 1: I'm still un a speeding bullet, more powerful on a locomotive,

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Speaker 1: able to believe tall buildings at a single mound.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm in descried. It's a fairy Lincoln, Lincoln, Lincoln

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Speaker 2: bingus banana Bana, bengun feed binal Lincoln Lincoln.

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Speaker 3: They say this cat Lincoln is a bad mother. We're

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Speaker 3: just talking about Lincoln.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, Cincinnati. Welcome to twelve thirty w DBZ. We

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Speaker 4: are the buzz of Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: Your talk.

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Speaker 4: Stay little Lincoln Wear Show till one o'clock this afternoon.

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Speaker 4: It is Monday, and I'm very cold Monday morning. Yes,

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Speaker 4: it is cold outside, let me tell you. And walk

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Speaker 4: from the parking garage to the car. I mean from

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Speaker 4: the parking garage to the to the building was not easy,

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Speaker 4: but I mean it and I'm here, Yes, I'm here.

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Speaker 2: Uh. There's a lot going on around the tri State,

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Speaker 2: the nation, and the world. Where do we start.

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Speaker 4: Let's start with my Cincinnati Bengals. Oh boy, oh man.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you get shut out at home that hardly

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Speaker 4: ever happens. You get eliminated from the playoffs, and then

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Speaker 4: the Bengals, the ownership don't even clean.

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Speaker 2: The seats off for you what the hell.

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 4: I think they cleaned some lower seats off, but they

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Speaker 4: they I don't they didn't get the upper the club area.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: It's just and I can recall in Buffalo they had

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Speaker 4: a snowstorm before a game.

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Speaker 2: They hired people in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 4: They were paying them, I don't know how much an

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Speaker 4: hour or something to come down and clean the seats

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Speaker 4: for the fan.

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Speaker 2: I can remember that. And you so it was on

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Speaker 2: the news and fans were there cleaning the seats. They

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Speaker 2: had blown snowblowers, blowing snow off the seats.

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Speaker 4: They were doing everything. Why can't they do stuff like

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Speaker 4: that here? Why are the Bengals so damn cheap? They

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Speaker 4: only got what was mainly every They are required to

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Speaker 4: clean the seats off, but their main requirement is to

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Speaker 4: clean for people to get into the stadium. And that's

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Speaker 4: how the Bengals pretty much did the minimum, as they

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Speaker 4: do always the minimum. And I finally heard Stephanie Doomers

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Speaker 4: she was even speaking out about it. What it had

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Speaker 4: to be bad if Stephanie Demos was speaking out against

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Speaker 4: the Bengals, who she voted for to get this new

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Speaker 4: eleven year contract that we paid for most of the stuff.

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Speaker 4: This was something that Bengals was supposed to pay for

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Speaker 4: the cleaning of the seats, and you see how well

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Speaker 4: they did that. Unbelievable. So not only do we have

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Speaker 4: a horrible team out there, they don't even make it

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Speaker 4: comfortable for the fans. I'm so glad I didn't go

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Speaker 4: to the game yesterday, and I wasn't about to get

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Speaker 4: out there in that cold for the Bengals. No, no

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Speaker 4: matter how much I love them and how much I

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Speaker 4: have invested in them, I wasn't about to get out

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Speaker 4: there in.

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Speaker 2: That cold weather.

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Speaker 4: To watch the out of stay right at home in

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Speaker 4: the warm, And I saw everything I needed to see,

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Speaker 4: which was not a whole lot. Not a whole lot.

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Speaker 2: The play calling sucks running.

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Speaker 4: How many times are they gonna run Chase Brown up

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Speaker 2: There's no creative plays, There's just nothing.

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Speaker 4: You do these high percentage I mean, you mean these

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Speaker 4: low percentage passes on fourth down and four running the

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Speaker 4: ball instead of these high percentage passes.

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Speaker 2: In the end zone.

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Speaker 4: Just get the first down. Do those high percentage. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I keep saying hyph percent those low percentage plays when

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Speaker 4: They asked uff Jamar Chase if there's anything about the

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Speaker 4: Bengals he would like to change. He says yes, but

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Speaker 4: he never did say what it was he wanted to change.

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Speaker 4: He never did say, which was probably smart not to do.

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Speaker 4: But I just don't understand that the people didn't want

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Speaker 4: for next season on snow on a Saturday before Bengals game.

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Speaker 4: They need to come up with a plan. They need

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Speaker 4: come in there and clean those seats off or else.

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Speaker 2: Just let the people in for free.

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Speaker 4: If you're not going to clean the seats, it's cold

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Speaker 2: You know that's ridiculous. Man.

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Speaker 4: I think the Bengals have a window of maybe one

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Speaker 4: or two more years to get to the super Bowl

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Speaker 4: with this group. They got to fix a lot of pieces.

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Speaker 2: Though.

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Speaker 4: They'll get some early round draft choices, that's for sure.

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Speaker 4: Maybe they can trade them for some decent players. Played

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Speaker 4: that first round pick for a bonified offensive lineman and

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Speaker 2: No, and how about some safeties. We need a whole

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Speaker 4: Dam and their draft picks are going to be really

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Speaker 4: scrutinized this year after last year. They are going to

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Speaker 4: be really scrutinized these draft picks that they picked this year.

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Speaker 4: But the Bengals came through for me. I did have

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Speaker 4: a little four game parlay that I hit on Sol.

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Speaker 4: I'm thankful for that. Yeah, a little four game parlay.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I can go with that. And did you see

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Speaker 2: the video.

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Speaker 6: Of the.

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Speaker 4: Black guy who had stolen the car He pulled up

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Speaker 4: to the smoke shop in Newtown? The cop comes up,

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Speaker 4: he knows it's a stolen car. He comes up, opens

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Speaker 2: Don't put don't put that car in reverse. Don't do that,

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Speaker 2: and the guy did it anyway, backed up, pulled the cop.

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Speaker 2: The cop was being dragged and the guy pulled back,

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Speaker 2: enough to let the police officer get himself untangled from

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Speaker 4: And then he pulled off again and let and then

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Speaker 4: later on he stopped. But it's cases like this where

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Speaker 4: you can get shot. Remember the what was that Clifton,

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Speaker 4: the guy over in Clifton there by uc what.

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Speaker 2: Was that Tenseley, something with a T Tinsley or something

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Speaker 2: like that. Somebody on Facebook live would tell me. But

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Speaker 2: remember he was pulling off. He got shot and killed

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Speaker 2: the same thing could have happened to this dude, and

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Speaker 2: then everybody would have been all upset. He was caught.

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Speaker 2: He stolen car. The cops caught him. You caught get

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Speaker 2: out of the car. His name was Jeremiah Ice.

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Speaker 4: He was a black guy. I never heard of any

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Speaker 4: any black's name Ice. I never heard that last name before,

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Speaker 4: Jeremiah Ice. He was twenty years old. He's been charged

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Speaker 4: with receiving stolen property, resisting arrests, failing to comply with an.

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Speaker 2: Officer, and more. After he pulled over. Was pulled over

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Speaker 4: The officer was identified by the officer, was notified by

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Speaker 4: flock cameras.

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Speaker 2: But you know they pick up license plates when you

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Speaker 2: come through their community and comes back whether it's stolen

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Speaker 4: So the vehicle was reported stolen. The guy pulled into

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Speaker 4: a smoke shop and boom. The officer went in there

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Speaker 4: said hey, stop, stop the officer Ice. Then he opens

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Speaker 4: the driver's side door and the officer don't try to

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Speaker 4: pull off, buddy, you're going to jail. Ice continues to

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Speaker 4: reverse the vehicle, and the officer begins repeatedly yelling.

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Speaker 2: He's got me in the car, He's got me in

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Speaker 4: He was putting saying this on his radio or yelling

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Speaker 4: did the He could have shot the dude right then, easily.

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Speaker 4: He had it on camera. The guy was dragging him.

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Speaker 4: He was right there on camera. They say, we are

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Speaker 4: fortunate and very glad this incident ended with only minor injuries.

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Speaker 4: And this guy was booked into the Hamilton County jail

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Speaker 4: ten thousand dollars bond.

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Speaker 2: He's expected to be back on court. Now, I think

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Speaker 2: it was a ten percent. So I think he got

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Speaker 2: out on one thousand dollars with all that he walked

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Speaker 2: with a thousand dollars bond.

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Speaker 4: Unbelievable, unbelievable. A lot of people don't like those flock cameras.

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Speaker 4: But if you've had a car stolen, you love him,

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Speaker 4: you love him, You're gonna get your car back, hopefully

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Speaker 4: in one piece. Yeah, so Sam Dubos was the guy

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Speaker 4: I was thinking of, Sam boot Dubos who was shot.

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Speaker 4: I think the officer who shot him the name with

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Speaker 4: the tea. If I'm not mistaken something Tensing, Yeah, Tensing,

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Speaker 2: I knew it was a tea. You know Ray Tinsy

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Speaker 2: remember that. And something else happened over the weekend. Elwood

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Speaker 2: Jones Friday, late Friday, at well, it wasn't late. Right

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Speaker 2: after I got off the air Friday. Right after I

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Speaker 2: got off the air, I hear from the prosecutor's office

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Speaker 2: that there's going to be a press conference at one thirty.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm at home.

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Speaker 4: I'm not getting back out in that, I don't think

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Speaker 4: so I'm not going down to the press conference.

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Speaker 2: So after the press conference.

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Speaker 4: I get another call from the prosecutor's office and it

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Speaker 4: says that they've dropped the charges against Elwood Jones. Charges

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Speaker 4: have been dropped, And I'm like, okay, you know we

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Speaker 4: were supposed to go to to the courthouse tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: That's been canceled. Of course we were supposed to.

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Speaker 4: And I don't think Connie Pillidge wanted to see the

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Speaker 4: courtroom packed with people backing Elwood Jones. And she's got

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Speaker 4: all this information that they did withhold the evidence in

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Speaker 4: that trial that could have cleared him as a suspect.

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Speaker 4: Connie Pillig says that, you know, he wouldn't be a

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Speaker 4: suspect if they had released the evidence. So this man

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Speaker 4: spends thirty count them thirty years in jail on death

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Speaker 4: row for prosecutors doing evil things just to win a case.

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Speaker 4: And the sad thing about it, I think she still

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Speaker 4: got some of those prosecutors down there. I think maybe

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Speaker 4: one or two of them are still there.

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Speaker 2: So how was she going to start this integrity task

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Speaker 2: force and she's got some of the people still down there.

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm trying to figure out. But I will

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Speaker 4: ask that question. I will ask that question. She's calling

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Speaker 4: in today at ten thirty, Hamilton County Prosecutor Connie Pillage

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Speaker 4: will call in and give us all the details on

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Speaker 4: the Ellwood Jones case. But I'm glad to see that

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Speaker 4: it's over for Ellwood Jones. Now he's got to find

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Speaker 4: him a job. He's gonna be he's gonna have all

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Speaker 4: this expunged from his record, and he's got to find

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Speaker 4: him a job that for I think a year and

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Speaker 4: a half or two years. He needs some more quarters

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Speaker 4: of work to get Social Security. So now he's gonna

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Speaker 2: For a year and a half two years, and if

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Speaker 2: anybody out there might be able to help him with that,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to see what I can do if you

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Speaker 2: got out so many some ideas, Uh he needs he

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Speaker 2: needs to get a job for a year and a

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Speaker 4: Let's take a break and then we'll come Back five, one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 2: The Buzz That Out. You forgot that? Okay, you'll figure

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Speaker 4: Yes, all right, let's go downtown to the Crimestopper headquarters

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Speaker 7: How are you, good morning, Lincoln. How you doing.

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Speaker 2: I'm hanging in there, hanging in there. What's going on?

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Speaker 2: Who are we looking for today?

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Speaker 6: We got some problems here in the city.

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Speaker 8: Joe Burrow's not happy.

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Speaker 4: Well, he's happy. He clarified that yesterday. He said, uh, uh,

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Speaker 6: I mean, if you had a batmobile, would you be happy?

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Speaker 6: Oh man, Okay, Today we are looking for Christian Coates.

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Speaker 4: All right three five two thirty forty night or day

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Speaker 2: Did you have to work this weekend or were you in?

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Speaker 7: I actually I worked.

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Speaker 7: It was.

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Speaker 6: It was brutally cold, yes, yes it was.

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Speaker 4: There you go, always there, You're always there when they

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Speaker 4: need you. Yes, sir, all right, Detective time Green, thanks

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Speaker 5: Good talk.

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Speaker 4: All right, we'll see. That's a detective Tie Green filling

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Speaker 4: in for Tiffany Green. Those Greens always work together. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: all right. Five one, three, seven, four, nine, twelve thirty. Uh,

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Speaker 4: I wonder if she's gonna look into Tracy Hunters case

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Speaker 2: I don't know. It just Tracy Hunters case is the

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Speaker 4: I just don't know what it is with that case.

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Speaker 4: Nobody wants to talk about it. They keep doing everything

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Speaker 2: Uh not end it for her. I just don't know.

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Speaker 2: How you doing?

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Speaker 5: Because I'm all right Lincoln. Uh you know, Lincoln, Uh,

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Speaker 5: you know I watched the the Bengals game yesterday, and

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 5: But Lincoln, I wanted to ask you a couple of

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Speaker 5: Two would be he would be one of mine. My

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, oh boy, that's the top.

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Speaker 4: It's been so many great white more wide receivers than

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Speaker 2: Top three, oh man, oh boy, top three? Oh boy.

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Speaker 2: I would have to say Jerry Rice okay, oh.

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Speaker 5: Willy Gold from Chicago Bears, you remember him, Willy Golf.

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Speaker 2: They were just fast. Bob Hayes was fast. He wasn't

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Speaker 5: Yes he was, he was. He caught it and he was,

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Speaker 4: But see that's the thing. He never got a chance

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Speaker 5: I was looking at him yesterday, I was looking at

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Speaker 5: What about Paul A good receiver? I remember him when

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Speaker 5: he was with Cleveland Brown, Yes, in Ohio state. But anyway,

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Speaker 5: you can ask you a question. You're saying about a

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Speaker 5: still European Paganism, regardless if it's a black Santo, white Santa,

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable, all right, but truth? All right, all right, we'll

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Speaker 2: talk to you, yeah, all right, Uh.

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Speaker 4: Say, Lincoln ware with you till about one o'clock this afternoon,

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Speaker 2: How Sharpton.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 2: Now, let's go downtown to the Hamilton County Prosecutor's office

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Speaker 2: and talk to Hamilton County Prosecutor Connie Pillage. How you

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Speaker 8: I'm doing great.

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Speaker 10: How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm hanging in there, hanging in there.

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Speaker 4: Well, I was shocked the press conference on Friday and

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Speaker 10: Well, I did, got into the records of the case

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Speaker 8: And so look, it was a deep dive into the case.

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Speaker 10: And in those interview notes, we saw a dozen witnesses

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then a dozen witnesses pointed to somebody else,

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Speaker 10: Well, yeah, and there was also we have the benefit

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Speaker 4: Because they yet they say she was hit in the

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Speaker 2: To convict them, and so boy.

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00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 4: So then he spends thirty years on death row. What

444
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 4: kept him from being executed all these years? How did

445
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 4: the not get executed?

446
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 10: Well, part of it is that he was exercising his

447
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 10: right to file appeal that puts it on hold. But

448
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 10: also the death penalty in Ohio, you know, it really

449
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 10: doesn't happen. Yeah, we've got there's a guy from Hamilton

450
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 10: County has been on death row since like nineteen eighty five.

451
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 10: And I think it's because we in general, I don't

452
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 10: think there's been an execution but one in twenty eighteen,

453
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 10: but it's been decades really not working. And that was

454
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 10: the mister Jones's benefit, that we didn't execute an innocent

455
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 10: man because our death penalty system doesn't work.

456
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 4: Now with this new integrity panel or integrity what is

457
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 4: a commission that you're going to form down at your office.

458
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 10: What's it called Conviction Integrity Unit? And that you may

459
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 10: have heard of this back when Sennan Rucker ran for

460
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 10: prosecutor a bunch of years ago. He talked about this

461
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 10: because we need to be able to have a person

462
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 10: or a team that can spend those months looking through

463
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 10: these cases that we need to look through. Now, I've

464
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 10: got a two hundred person organization to run, and I

465
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 10: don't don't can't just dive in for three weeks in

466
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 10: a row because I've got all.

467
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 8: This other stuff to do.

468
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 9: So we need that.

469
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 10: We need someone whose job it will be to respond

470
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 10: to these requests from defendants or organizations like the Ohio

471
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 10: Innocence Project to review these things.

472
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 4: Now, isn't it true that you still have some of

473
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 4: the same prosecutors in your office that was on Elwood

474
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 4: Jones's case back then.

475
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 10: I don't really know who others then, Mark pepe Meyer

476
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 10: and Seth Tiger were on the on the case, and

477
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 10: neither of them are here.

478
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: Okay, so both of those guys are gone.

479
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 10: Yes they're both retired.

480
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, okay, Well I'll tell you, but this is

481
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, you got to feel good that

482
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 4: you were able to find out and release this guy

483
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 4: after all these years. The other prosecutors didn't look into

484
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 4: it like you did, so you got to feel good

485
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 4: about yourself for doing.

486
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: At least doing that.

487
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 10: I got to tell you when the judge signed the entry.

488
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 10: It was a very emotional moment. And then when we

489
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 10: took the entry over to the clerk's office and filed

490
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 10: it to make it an official part of the record,

491
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 10: that that was that was also very emotional. Yeah, And look,

492
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 10: the reason that the reason we were able to do

493
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 10: this is not just because I'm committed to justice with integrity,

494
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 10: but because I was new. I was a fresh set

495
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 10: of eyes, and so was my first assistant who did

496
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 10: start her career in this office and then went to

497
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 10: the city before she came back here with me. But

498
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 10: that's why we have to have someone who's not from

499
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,719
Speaker 10: this office, because it's just natural to want to support

500
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 10: your colleagues or your predecessors. That's natural. That's why we

501
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 10: need to have a fresh set of eyes with this

502
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 10: Conviction Integrity Unit. And if the if the county gives

503
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 10: me the funding, we will be able to put it

504
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 10: together in the new year.

505
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 4: Now, is anything going on poor Tracy Hunter. She keeps

506
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 4: filing this and filing that, and it's just like she's

507
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 4: just training her will. Nothing is happening with that she

508
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 4: and she has it seemed like she has credible evidence.

509
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 4: The show she was railroaded. Are you going to have

510
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 4: your integrity team look into this? Are you going to

511
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 4: look into that? Or what's going on with Tracy Hunt?

512
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 8: Well?

513
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 10: Right now there's an appeal pending, and so it's I

514
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 10: just can't talk about it, but anyone will be able

515
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 10: to approach this Conviction Integrity Unit once I get it

516
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 10: up and running. It's you know, it took me four

517
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 10: months to pour through Elwo Jones's case because I can't

518
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 10: do it full time.

519
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, And and I put it home.

520
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 10: It's not that I'm sitting around, you know. I also

521
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 10: took it home.

522
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 12: To work on it.

523
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 4: So who made the call to Elwood Jones? Did you

524
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 4: call him? Did you call us lawyers? How do they

525
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 4: find out the news?

526
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 10: I texted his lawyer, okay, and I'm a text just

527
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 10: a moment before we started the press conference, okay, okay, Yeah,

528
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,959
Speaker 10: And I have no way to contact mister Jones. Yes, yes, yes,

529
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 10: then that would be inappropriate for me to do so

530
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 10: because he is a lawyer.

531
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, all right? Boy? Oh boy? So after thirty years, man,

532
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 2: I'm sure you know, I don't know if it's coming

533
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 2: or now, but I can almost guarantee you there's going

534
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 2: to be a lawsuit file for Him's any thirty years

535
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 2: in jail? Uh for a crime he didn't come in, Well.

536
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,959
Speaker 10: You'll have to have him. I wouldn't be involved.

537
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 4: That's someone said, Joe Dieters was upset. I heard on

538
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 4: the one news program Joe Dieters was upset. And you

539
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 4: haven't heard the last from him. Have you heard anything

540
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 4: from Joe Dieters?

541
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 10: No, I haven't. Uh, And I understand why he's upset.

542
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 10: He thought he was doing something right. Yes, turns out

543
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 10: we were. We look just not turning over the thousands

544
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 10: of pages.

545
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 2: That's great of case.

546
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 10: Notest the law.

547
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 2: Somebody should go to jail.

548
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 10: For We're we're not supposed to cheat. We don't need

549
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 10: to cheat to win. We've got good lawyers here. They

550
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 10: do their job and and we we should be able

551
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 10: to win with integrity in this case that could not

552
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 10: have happened because it was the wrong guy.

553
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, all right, well, Countie Pillage, and we appreciate you,

554
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 4: and I'm sure Elwood Jones is doing back. No hand

555
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 4: flips now he's a free man after thirty years. And

556
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 4: keep up the good work down there, County Pillage.

557
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,479
Speaker 10: All right, thanks so much, Lincoln, all right.

558
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 2: Same to you.

559
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 4: We'll talk to you all right. That's Hamilton County Prosecutor

560
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 4: Connie Pillage and drop charges against Elwood Jones. And yeah,

561
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 4: when you cheat down there, you should go to jail.

562
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 4: They stop him from cheating, you know, they cheating. They

563
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 4: get away with it. The guys who are in that case,

564
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 4: they retire. They said, let's get out, let's retire. Now

565
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 4: they're gone. But they were still down there when he

566
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,439
Speaker 4: was appealing and all this stuff. They were still there,

567
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 4: and they knew what they had done.

568
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 2: They knew it. They knew it.

569
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 4: All right, let me take a break. We'll come back

570
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 4: twelve thirty. The buzz your talk station is that Isley

571
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 4: jasper Ilely.

572
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 2: I think so. Yeah, that's a boy. That was a

573
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 2: great song. Lincoln.

574
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 4: Were with you till one o'clock this afternoon, and we

575
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 4: just heard from the Hamlet County Prosecutor Connie Pillage. And

576
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 4: he's free now. Elwood Jones, it's been on the show

577
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 4: several times wanting his freedom. They withheld thousands of pages.

578
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: Witnesses said it pointed the finger at somebody else, and no,

579
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 2: they wanted to convict this black man of the murder.

580
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 4: Unbelievable cut his hand on the dumpster, reported it to

581
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 4: his job. And if the cut wasn't even where if

582
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 4: you punched somebody in the mouth, it wasn't even where her.

583
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 4: If her teeth had caught his, his knuckles weren't even scarred.

584
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 4: His knuckles would have been scarred. Unbelievable. All right, with

585
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 4: all the boy, I'm just saying, Hey, can you imagine

586
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 4: spending thirty years on death row? You don't know when

587
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 4: you're gonna die. You keep filing the pills to stay alive,

588
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 4: and you don't know when one of those pills are

589
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 4: gonna be kicked back, and they're gonna make take you,

590
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 4: make you take that walk.

591
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 2: To the gas chamber.

592
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 4: Jeez, unbelievable. All right, let's go back to the phones.

593
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 4: Five one, three, seven, four, nine, twelve thirty. Looks like

594
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 4: Bill is up. Bill, how are you?

595
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 9: I'm doing great, man. I want to talk about a

596
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 9: couple of things.

597
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 7: Uh.

598
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 9: First of all the singles that I tell you too,

599
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 9: it's pitiful, man, But you know what, I don't fought

600
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 9: them for the bleachers being full of snow. I would

601
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 9: not put up with being fined for something I'm not

602
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 9: responsible for.

603
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what.

604
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 4: In Buffalo when they had a snowstorm the night before

605
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 4: the game, they paid people twenty dollars an hour, twenty

606
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 4: dollars an hour and free food to anybody who would

607
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 4: come in there and help them clean.

608
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: They opened it up to the community.

609
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 7: Me tell you what I'd be Johnny.

610
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. You know, the Bengals could have

611
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 4: done the same thing. But they're so damn cheap. They

612
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 4: could have done the same thing.

613
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 7: Mike Brown. And that's what you expect from Mike Brown. Cheapness.

614
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 7: Definitely cheapness, you know. But you know what the Bengals.

615
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 9: Hey, better luck next time or better luck next year.

616
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 7: Move it right along again.

617
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 9: Sunday so classes was a knockout, man, I tell you

618
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 9: you just getting atrociously aware.

619
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 2: Did you hear your Barca's Did you hear uh? Sitting

620
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 2: on the dock of the bay.

621
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 7: Absolutely And I heard my jam soul finger.

622
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, yes, that was my salute to the Barcads

623
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 9: for keeping keeping it together for so long. I didn't

624
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 9: get a chance to see the barcade this year, but

625
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 9: if I saw James Allen standing I he gave me

626
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 9: his crops yes for keeping the band alive for so long.

627
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 9: But I tell you the highlights though. Man where Uh

628
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 9: Betty Swan make me yours?

629
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 7: Yes?

630
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 9: I get her confused with Barbara Ackling.

631
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 4: Yes, Barbara Barbara Acklan seems a little higher than Betty Swan.

632
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, well they both sound good. Uh what else did

633
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 7: I hear it? Did I liked it?

634
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 11: Oh?

635
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 7: Yeah?

636
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 9: And I liked it when you said when cameos were

637
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 9: going out tonight, oh, we're not going out tonight because

638
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 9: it was cold.

639
00:38:59,120 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 7: I really liked that.

640
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 9: But that one song, I tell you one Monkey, don't stop,

641
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 9: no show, not by the honey Comb.

642
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 4: But I tell you King George. I figured I play

643
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 4: that since I saw King George on Friday Night.

644
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 9: Well that's all reminds me of Twin Twins show stopped

645
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 9: and Twin.

646
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 7: Is a monkey. But you know what I got this

647
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 7: to say.

648
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 9: You know, I'm taking care of I'm helping aiding.

649
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 7: A homeless couple that is living in that car. Now.

650
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 9: I don't know the circumstances of why, but it's just

651
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 9: pitiful that around this time, as cold as it is,

652
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 9: that they're living in their car, and I have the

653
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 9: heart to aid and assist of helping them and everything.

654
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 9: And Twin, I say this to you, you better be

655
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 9: on your hands and knees praying to the Lord that

656
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 9: you keep your job, because you know what Trump is

657
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 9: out for blood, You out to do so much damage.

658
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 7: So it ain't funny.

659
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 9: But you know what, it's the man upstairs that made

660
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 9: them custom judges to make him open up the government.

661
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 9: And I tell you twenty twenty five I will not forget.

662
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 9: And the best part about twenty twenty five was I

663
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 9: did not have to go to the hospital this year.

664
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Speaker 8: Ain't that great?

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Speaker 2: That's great? Well, twenty five is not over yet. To

666
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Speaker 2: keep your fingers crossed.

667
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I will.

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Speaker 9: But you know what, when King Holiday comes, I will

669
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Speaker 9: be there. I will be marchin all right, will be

670
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Speaker 9: praising the Lord for what he's done. And Terrence and

671
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 9: you miss the ware. Y'all keep up the good work man,

672
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 9: because y'all just knocked out. Y'all are the salty pepper

673
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Speaker 9: man this city.

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Speaker 2: All right, Bill, thanks for your call. All right? Five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 2: twelve thirty. Let's see do I have enough time for

676
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Speaker 2: Brent before news? Maybe not.

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Speaker 4: Let's take a break for news and we'll come back

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Speaker 4: Brent ray Netty all holding on five, one, three, seven,

679
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Speaker 4: four nine, twelve thirty. That's my number. If you want

680
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Speaker 4: to jump on board. We're talking Bengals. Hey, one billion,

681
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 4: over one billion dollars in the power ball tonight, over

682
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 4: one billion dollars in the jackpot. It could be you,

683
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 4: it could be you can't win if you don't play.

684
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Speaker 4: That's what I always say. Somebody's got to win. Somebody's

685
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Speaker 4: gonna win. All right, let's take a break, we'll come back.

686
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Speaker 2: Twelve thirty. The buzz mean none other than Donny Isaacson.

687
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Speaker 2: And he is a state representative, the minority party leader

688
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 2: up at the state House, Democratic Party leader. And Donny,

689
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Speaker 2: good to see you, get to have you on the.

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Speaker 3: Show, Lincoln, thanks for having me. Hope everyone survived the

691
00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 3: very cold weekend.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, were you at the event on Saturday?

693
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Speaker 3: I didn't make it, but I couldn't make it out. Okay,

694
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 3: sounded like it was a great event.

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00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, sounds like.

696
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 4: Now what's going on at the state House. They're still

697
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 4: tearing up the marijuana a lull that people passed it,

698
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 4: still uh, putting people out of business and carrying on

699
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 4: like that.

700
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Speaker 2: So what next? What next.

701
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Speaker 3: So this happened in the you know, they called a

702
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 3: lame duck session where you know, they go into late

703
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 3: into the night, right before the holidays. They hope folks

704
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 3: don't pay attention to some of the more obnoxious or

705
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 3: unpopular bills, and one of them is a bill that

706
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 3: you know, we've been going back and forth in a

707
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 3: pretty bipartisan way for a year trying to get something

708
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 3: good to come out of this, but ultimately, you know,

709
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 3: they pushed too hard to try and recriminalize things that

710
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 3: the voter said very clearly we want to be legal.

711
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 3: Plenty of people who don't use marijuana still don't think

712
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 3: that people should be criminalized. Yeah for it, right, it's

713
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 3: and so and that was the issue that ultimately we had. So, now,

714
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 3: if you go into Michigan or another state and you

715
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 3: buy cannabis legally and you bring it back into Ohio,

716
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 3: that is now a crime.

717
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?

718
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 3: If you share the cannabis that you bought in Michigan

719
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 3: with someone else, it's now a drug trafficking offense. Right,

720
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 3: So it's back to the same bs of criminalizing behavior

721
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 3: that the voters in Ohio very clearly said should no

722
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 3: longer be criminal. So there's some good elements to the bill,

723
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 3: but those elements were a bridge too far.

724
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Speaker 4: Crazy crazy crazy, So now people can't go to Detroit,

725
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 4: buy something and bring it back here. That's again a

726
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 4: lot of times they set up a little stakeouts and

727
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 4: watch people with Ohio tags and when they follow they

728
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 4: radio hands, hey, we got one come and just bought

729
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 4: some marijuana over here at this door, and they crossing

730
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Speaker 4: the line with it.

731
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Speaker 2: So I mean they can set up a trap for people.

732
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Speaker 3: Well, in the you know, we've seen how marijuana criminalization

733
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 3: right and marijuana arrests have just fed into you know,

734
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 3: sort of putting way too many people behind bars for

735
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 3: thirty forty years. And so finally as a state, we

736
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,439
Speaker 3: decided we're going to move beyond that. With fifty seven

737
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 3: percent of the vote, it wasn't close. And so the

738
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Speaker 3: idea that then the legislature would go back and you know,

739
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Speaker 3: at past midnight, right before the Thanksgiving holiday and recriminalize

740
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 3: certain aspects of it just because they can. And this

741
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 3: is the point that the Republicans make, Well, we are

742
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Speaker 3: legally allowed to change the law because those fifty percent

743
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,919
Speaker 3: of people only voted for something that has the force

744
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 3: of law. It's not a constitutional amendment. But just because

745
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 3: you can do something doesn't mean that you should. And

746
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 3: clearly they're just it's it's ignoring what the vast majority

747
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Speaker 3: of people in Ohio said they wanted.

748
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Speaker 4: Now, what about the SNAP program in Ohio? I know

749
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 4: that's been when the government shut down before then Trump

750
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 4: is threatened with whole Well this is a this is

751
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 4: a rid state, so he would he'd threatened with whole

752
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 4: SNAP payments from some red states and I mean, yeah,

753
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 4: blue states.

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Speaker 2: He threatened to do that for blue state. This is

755
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:01,919
Speaker 2: a states. So I guess we don't have to worry.

756
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 2: But how is the government messing with SNAP payments? Now?

757
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 2: They tinkering around with that though.

758
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,479
Speaker 3: Well, and this it shows you a little bit about

759
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 3: just the state of things in the country. There were

760
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 3: one point four million people who were going hungry in

761
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 3: Ohio didn't have enough money on their snapguards all because

762
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 3: they didn't want to address the fact that healthcare premiums

763
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 3: are going to go up by ten or twenty thousand

764
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 3: dollars for some couples next year. So that was the fight, right,

765
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 3: instead of feeding millions of people, all you have to

766
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 3: do to feed them to come to an agreement was say, okay,

767
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 3: we're going to keep health care prices a little lower.

768
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 3: And eventually what happened is they're going to we are

769
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 3: going to see the healthcare premium spike next year. Now

770
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 3: we all know who to blame. And they were so

771
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 3: committed to the healthcare premium spiking that they were willing

772
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 3: to let people go hungry for weeks. So we haven't

773
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 3: fixed the underlying problem, which is that healthcare is through

774
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 3: the roof. Yeah, and so yes, people are getting their

775
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 3: snap benefits again, but they're in all sorts of ways.

776
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 3: President Trump and the federal government are collaborating with partners

777
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 3: in state capitals like Columbus to try and find ways

778
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 3: to chip away at the benefits people receive to make

779
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 3: it so that the hungry are hungrier. Right, there's people

780
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 3: you know in schools that already underfunded are more underfunded. Right,

781
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 3: that's the direction they're trying to take everything in.

782
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Speaker 2: All, Right, if you've got questions for the Democratic minority

783
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 2: leader at the state representative, give us a call five one, three, seven, four, nine,

784
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 2: twelve thirty. Donnie Isaacson is my guest this morning.

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Speaker 4: And did they ever scrap this eighteen year old you

786
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,919
Speaker 4: could get a license, I mean good by a gun.

787
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 4: I know they Cecil Thomas said they had brought that up,

788
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 4: wanted to make it legal for an eighteen year old

789
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 4: to get a gun.

790
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 3: And look they're still working on that. You know what

791
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 3: we saw, we saw tragedy, unfortunately after tragedy this weekend,

792
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 3: not just in the US but around the world, and

793
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 3: the idea that we need more guns on the streets

794
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 3: to keep us safer just goes against everything we see

795
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:15,439
Speaker 3: in the news every single day. And the only way

796
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 3: you can possibly believe that is to just be totally

797
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 3: disconnected from the communities that we are supposed to be representing.

798
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're disconnected, that's for sure. That they are disconnected well,

799
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 4: and it's.

800
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 3: Because they can be right because they have drawn the

801
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 3: districts through a gerrymandering system that allowed them to not

802
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 3: be accountable to the voters. And when you have unaccountable

803
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 3: elected officials, you get what we've gotten, which is policies

804
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 3: that cater to the very very very highest earners, the

805
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 3: biggest businesses, and don't actually help medium sized businesses, small businesses, entrepreneurs,

806
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 3: don't help most families have done nothing about the fact

807
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 3: that childcare and housing continue to be the two biggest

808
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 3: costs for most families. And so it's a choice, right

809
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 3: There are choices that Massachusetts and Connecticut and New York

810
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 3: and other states are making where life genuinely is more

811
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 3: affordable on those metrics, and Ohio could be and should

812
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 3: be making those choices.

813
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 2: Unbelievable. Are they going to do anything about property taxes

814
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 2: here in the state? Anything?

815
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 3: This is you know, Lincoln, this has been one of

816
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 3: the most frustrating things to witness over the last few years,

817
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,439
Speaker 3: because from almost the day I got into office, people

818
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 3: have been calling me and saying, our property taxes are

819
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 3: too high. Seniors are calling they said, you know, I

820
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 3: had a couple call me. They described how both of

821
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 3: them were going through cancer treatments. They'd spent all of

822
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 3: their savings on those because of our broken healthcare system,

823
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 3: and somehow they were going to get taxed out of

824
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 3: their house. Now, I believe it's wrong for the government

825
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 3: to tax anyone out of their home who owns their home.

826
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 3: Our property taxes are way too high. But the answer

827
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 3: is not to try and scrape some money from our

828
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 3: school districts. Send out a one time check that's only

829
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 3: going to increase people's property taxes in the next few years.

830
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 3: The actual answer is, use the state resources to fund

831
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 3: our public schools and are other public services so that

832
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 3: it doesn't all fall in the backs of property owners.

833
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 3: Because as long as you're squeezing seventy percent of the

834
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,720
Speaker 3: burden for public education out of local taxpayers, property taxes

835
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 3: are going to stay high.

836
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Speaker 5: Yep.

837
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 2: And then you get these communities who are voting down

838
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 2: these levees, and then that's hurting even more. You know,

839
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:35,720
Speaker 2: I'm looking at them mount healthy schools. They're thinking about

840
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 2: a payroll tax to fund the schools out because they're hurting.

841
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 3: So so schools are you know, school districts are going

842
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 3: to have to get creative because they are under attack

843
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 3: from state government. Even though and this is the part

844
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 3: that blows your mind, ninety percent of kids in Ohio

845
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 3: go to public schools. Yeah, like almost everyone goes to

846
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 3: public schools. So why are we attacking the public school system.

847
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 3: We should be investing in the public schoo system. That's

848
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 3: where everyone goes, and not just in urban areas and

849
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 3: rural areas, and a lot of the districts that can't

850
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 3: pass levees like the ones you're talking about are in

851
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 3: rural areas represented by Republicans. They can't pass levees in

852
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 3: part because they don't have the tax base in parts

853
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 3: of southeast Ohio or because it's an aging population.

854
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,280
Speaker 2: Right, and they say, we can't afford to pay anymore.

855
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 3: And I get the anger on property taxes, but the

856
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 3: blame has to be with the state legislature and a

857
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 3: majority you know there that has just refused to invest

858
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 3: in schools for over a decade.

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Speaker 2: All right, Uh, five, one, three, seven, four, nine, twelve thirty.

860
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Speaker 2: We're talking to Donnie Isaacson, uh, state representative, the minority

861
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 2: leader in the state House there, and uh, what's coming

862
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 2: up for twenty twenty six? What's going to be on

863
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 2: the table when you guys go back uh next year?

864
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Speaker 3: So I think we're going to be pushing for more

865
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Speaker 3: housing policy to try and increase at least the availability

866
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 3: of housing so that we can stabilize rents and make

867
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 3: it easier for first time homeowners to buy homes because

868
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 3: you know, people move to Ohio, they stay in Ohio

869
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 3: historically for the same reason you know, my family came

870
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 3: to the state. It's a great place to raise a

871
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 3: family buy a.

872
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 2: Home, and.

873
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 3: That is no longer very true anymore. And so we

874
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 3: have to get back to a place where people can

875
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 3: afford their rent, where seniors can afford to downsize, so

876
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 3: that more families can you move into homes.

877
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 7: Right.

878
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,919
Speaker 3: We need more activity in the housing market. So that's

879
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 3: going to be a big focus for us. Figuring out

880
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 3: how we can possibly bring down childcare and healthcare costs.

881
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Speaker 3: You know, obviously a lot of that's at the federal level,

882
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 3: but childcare in particular, oh, is a state issue.

883
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 2: Geez, child care is out of control.

884
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 3: And that's what I think sometimes gets lost I think

885
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 3: in the in the news and on social media. You know,

886
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 3: everyone's really focused on national issues. They're really focused on

887
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 3: you know, city politics, but most of the issues that

888
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 3: affect most people every day are actually handled at the

889
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 3: state level. Your public education, childcare, infrastructure, criminal justice, what's

890
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 3: a crime, what's not, what are the punishments for it,

891
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 3: the you know, the law enforcement system in general. All

892
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 3: of that is at the state level. And so you know,

893
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 3: there's a bill right now that we are working very

894
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 3: hard against to try and make it so that if

895
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 3: you're if you're from certain other countries, you can't buy

896
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 3: property in Ohio. Now, I think it's unconstitutional and it

897
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 3: like goes back to some of the worst periods.

898
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Speaker 2: Well, if somebody whose other countries, if you from outside

899
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 2: of the countries, you can't buy property in certain countries.

900
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Speaker 3: I know this would include the bill as it's been introduced,

901
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 3: includes green card holders. So you you ok to the

902
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 3: country when you're you know, when you're ten, you've been

903
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 3: here for the years. Now you've finally got a management

904
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Speaker 3: job at the hospital. You're as American as anyone.

905
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Speaker 13: Else, right, and so you want to buy some property,

906
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 13: and so you want to buy a house and they

907
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 13: won't let you. And so you know, it's also like

908
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 13: what if you came and you were a refugee. What

909
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 13: if you were fleeing China or Venezuela, Right, you were

910
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 13: trying to escape, and now you've been in the country

911
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 13: a long time.

912
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 3: You got American kids. That to me, we want people

913
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 3: who want to seek freedom, who want to build a

914
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 3: better life, Right, That's what we've always wanted. And once

915
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 3: they're here and they've proven that they're you know, willing

916
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 3: to do that, the idea that Ohio would say, please

917
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:23,720
Speaker 3: go elsewhere.

918
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Speaker 2: Just doesn't make any sense, unbelievable. It all comes out

919
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 2: of Columbus. All right, let's go to uh oh boy, Stepan.

920
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 2: How you doing, step Fan?

921
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Speaker 3: Good friend?

922
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Speaker 9: I'm doing.

923
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Speaker 7: How y'all doing in the studio?

924
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Speaker 3: We're doing good?

925
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Speaker 14: All right, Donny, I got a couple of questions for

926
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Speaker 14: your buddy.

927
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Speaker 3: I'm ready to Stephan. It was nice to see you

928
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 3: a few weeks ago a family market.

929
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Speaker 14: LifeWise, likewise, I saw you down there selling shopping mans.

930
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 14: Good job. Hey, what made what made you form a

931
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:57,280
Speaker 14: juist caucus up and up in Columbus? That's one question

932
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Speaker 14: for you?

933
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Speaker 9: Want to answer that?

934
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Speaker 14: Then I get a couple more for you.

935
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Speaker 11: I want to go through a mall.

936
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Speaker 2: How many do you have, Stefan?

937
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Speaker 7: We don't have three or four?

938
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Speaker 2: Two is all I have time for.

939
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Speaker 7: I do the Jewish coccaus?

940
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Speaker 5: What made you form that?

941
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 2: Sure?

942
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Speaker 14: And what made you do behind the closed deal with

943
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Speaker 14: the redistricting of the lines on Greg Lansmick, because he

944
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 14: was really kind of upset when I asked him that

945
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 14: question Saturday at the little town hall so called meeting

946
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Speaker 14: they had up there, but no two things not that

947
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Speaker 14: one more Lincoln Social equity and this marijuana. Why do

948
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Speaker 14: they lie to the to the voters, and to the

949
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Speaker 14: backs of the black folks. They're saying, basically, if we

950
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Speaker 14: passed this social equity for help black people get dispensary

951
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 14: license and grow license and delivery license, and they took

952
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 14: the social equity out the three questions the Jewish? What

953
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 14: made you start your Jewish coccus up in Columbus and

954
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 14: behind the closed deals and the social equity?

955
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Speaker 7: I appreciate your time. Thanks, I guess I'll call you

956
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Speaker 7: back Lincoln.

957
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 2: All right, thanks, where you go. Now, let's start with

958
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 2: Greg Landsman. What I mean he said? I don't know.

959
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 4: You said he was happy, he was okay, he gave

960
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 4: you the thumbs up to vote for the redistrict thing.

961
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Speaker 2: Is that true?

962
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,240
Speaker 3: He didn't give me the thumbs down. It's probably more active.

963
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 3: And this wasn't unique to Greg. We said to all

964
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Speaker 3: the members of Congress, right, if if you, you know,

965
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Speaker 3: want us to turn down this deal, you know, please

966
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 3: let us know. Not just the members, but Hakeem Jeffries

967
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 3: was involved as well, because we wanted to make sure

968
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 3: that they felt what we felt, which and now I

969
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:40,399
Speaker 3: think it's very clear that Greg is I think going

970
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 3: to win next year. It's going to be a tough race,

971
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Speaker 3: but he is going to win that district. I hope.

972
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 3: I'm you know less sure, but certainly it's possible that

973
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Speaker 3: we are able to win the district up in northwest Ohio.

974
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Speaker 3: In Toledo, we will certainly win the district in the

975
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 3: Akron area. And if you look at what's happening in Texas,

976
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 3: they thought, they thought they fought, They took it all

977
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Speaker 3: the way to spring Court. The spring Court is going

978
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Speaker 3: to let them get rid of those five districts. We

979
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Speaker 3: were not willing to let that happen.

980
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 2: In Olio.

981
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 3: We would have lost all three of those districts, and

982
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,479
Speaker 3: they weren't going to be, oh maybe like a little

983
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 3: more competitive. They were going to be Republican plus ten, eleven,

984
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Speaker 3: twelve one of them up to plus eighteen districts. Even

985
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 3: in a good Democratic year, you can't win districts like that.

986
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 3: And we saw those maps, and we saw what was

987
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 3: happening in North Carolina and Texas, and we said, we're

988
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 3: not going to let that happen here. So we're not

989
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 3: happy with the result that we got in the sense

990
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 3: that Ohioan's deserved better than jerrymandered maps. And these are

991
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 3: absolutely still jerrymandered maps. But at the end of the day,

992
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 3: going into President Trump's last two years, with the havoc

993
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 3: he is waking on the country. We couldn't afford to

994
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 3: lose Greg Landsman as our congressman. We couldn't afford to

995
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 3: totally wipe out Marci Captor, and we couldn't afford to

996
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 3: lose Amelia Sykes. And so you know, we took the

997
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,760
Speaker 3: deal to preserve their ability to win. And I believe,

998
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 3: and I think so does so do a lot of

999
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 3: other people, especially if you look around the country, that

1000
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 3: Greg Landsman is going to be able to win next year,

1001
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Speaker 3: but he's going to need all of our help and

1002
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 3: support to do it.

1003
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 2: All. Right, now, what about this Jewish caucus he was

1004
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 2: talking about? What is that?

1005
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 3: Oh, so this is something it's actually I think a

1006
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 3: really nice thing. You know, we legislators in Ohio, but

1007
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 3: in legislatures all over the world, all over the country,

1008
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 3: and in DC form caucuses based on shared interest, shared backgrounds.

1009
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 3: Right there's a woman's caucus, there's a there's a rural

1010
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 3: hospital caucus, there's you know, the some of the biggest,

1011
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 3: at least on the Democratics side or the legislative Black caucuses.

1012
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 7: Uh.

1013
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 3: And so now that we've got six Jewish members of

1014
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 3: the legislature, which you know, when I started there were

1015
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 3: there was only one other one, we have a Jewish

1016
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 3: caucus and a chance. That's a chance for us to

1017
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 3: sort of shout out things when you know, there's things

1018
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 3: to celebrate. We're going to send out a Hanuka message today. Unfortunately,

1019
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 3: our hanakcam message today is also noting, you know, a

1020
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 3: tragic shooting in Australia at a Hanuka celebration. So there's

1021
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 3: just things that you know, like any group, it's it's

1022
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 3: nice to come together and be a part of something

1023
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 3: and sort of express shared perspectives or shared thoughts whenever

1024
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 3: you know it comes up. Usually it's around Jewish holidays

1025
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 3: and okay, notes about it. And then the last one

1026
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 3: was around oh, it was around something Stefan I couldn't

1027
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 3: agree with you more. The voters were clear about how

1028
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 3: they wanted the tax money distributed from marijuana. And again

1029
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 3: this is where the Republican legislature has taken advantage of

1030
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 3: the fact that they can amend that law that was

1031
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 3: passed by the voters, and so even though they shouldn't,

1032
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 3: they still are. And in the budget that was passed

1033
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 3: this summer, which every Democrat voted against, they got rid

1034
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 3: of the social Equity fund that was part of the

1035
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 3: marijuana tax bill that was passed by voters, so they

1036
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 3: gutted that. In the same budget that sent six hundred

1037
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 3: million dollars to a billionaire own sports stadium. In the

1038
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 3: same budget that increased funding for private school subsidies for

1039
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 3: the richest people in the state by over a billion dollars.

1040
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 3: The same budget that cut taxes for the highest earners

1041
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 3: in Ohio by over a billion dollars. So those are

1042
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 3: the choices that were made in the budget this summer,

1043
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 3: and it's why every Democrat, which is not always the case, usually,

1044
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 3: we want to find a way to vote for the

1045
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 3: budget often if we can, if there's enough good stuff

1046
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 3: in there. It's very, very unusual for every single Democrat

1047
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 3: to vote against a state budget. But that's how egregious

1048
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 3: this one was this summer.

1049
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 2: Unbelievable. Unbelievable.

1050
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:29,919
Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you it's going to be tough going

1051
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 4: for Democrats up there.

1052
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 3: So we've got a path, you know, we got to

1053
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 3: play the long game. They've been playing the long game

1054
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 3: all over the country, but certainly in Ohio, and so

1055
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 3: we have to do the same thing. And the way

1056
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 3: we think about it as state reps, certainly the way

1057
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 3: I think about as someone who both lives in and

1058
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 3: represents downtown on OTR in the West Side. What do

1059
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 3: we need to be doing in the short term to

1060
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 3: be of use and of value to make a positive

1061
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 3: impact for the communities we represent. So I'll give you

1062
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Speaker 3: an example of that. They were going after public schools

1063
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 3: in one of these property tax bills, and it was

1064
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 3: going to cost Cincinnati Public over ten million dollars next year.

1065
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 3: It would have been more than forty teachers. Oh and

1066
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 3: so we negotiated with them, and we actually, basically in

1067
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 3: exchange for six or seven Democratic votes for a bill,

1068
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 3: they added five hundred million dollars to fund public schools

1069
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 3: for a year to keep them whole. So it made

1070
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Speaker 3: it so that CPS has an additional year of funding

1071
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 3: before they have to deal with those keys. So now

1072
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 3: is that how I would design it? No, But my

1073
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 3: job is to fight for CPS. Yeah, yeah, And so

1074
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 3: we found a way to do that in the short

1075
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 3: term and that's what we're as Democrats. But in the

1076
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 3: long term, we got to change the game up there,

1077
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Speaker 3: and the way we do that, hopefully next year, is

1078
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 3: break the supermajority, which will be the first time we

1079
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 3: this is the first time we've had a real shot

1080
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 3: to do that in a long time. We'd have to

1081
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 3: flip six seats, which hasn't happened in over twelve years.

1082
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 3: But that's why I wanted to become leaders to if

1083
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 3: we can't do it in twenty six, then get it

1084
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 3: done by twenty eight. We've got to break the super

1085
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 3: majority and we got to start putting Democrats back on

1086
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 3: the path to representing a majority of people in the state.

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Speaker 2: All right, we've got to take a quick break. We'll

1088
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 2: come back, Joan, you're up on the other side of

1089
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 2: the break.

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Speaker 4: Twelve thirty The Buzz TBZ, the Buzz of Cincinnati, your

1091
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 4: talk station Lincoln where with you in the studio with

1092
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 4: me Donny Isaacson from the State House, state representative and

1093
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 4: minority leader at the State House there and he's.

1094
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Speaker 2: In the studio to take your calls.

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Speaker 4: And Derek blasing Game a guy he says, stop sending

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Speaker 4: these Seaton Elder seven Hills, Seven Country Day guys up

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Speaker 4: to the State House to represent Avon Dhill, Walnat Hills

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Speaker 4: and all those communities.

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Speaker 2: And are you one of those guys from Seven Hills

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Speaker 2: a Seventh Country Day.

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Speaker 3: Those are great schools. Nothing no knock on those schools.

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Speaker 3: But I'm a very proud Waln of Hills graduation.

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Speaker 4: Okay, there you go, Derek blasing Game, he's from Walnat Hills.

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Speaker 4: Derek blazing Game. You Trump supported you. Hey, let's go

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Speaker 4: to Joan. Joan, you have a question.

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Speaker 12: Yes, my question is under I want to know why

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Speaker 12: did the state legislature pass the law under Ohio Revised

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01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 12: Code Section fifty three twenty one point two ZHO. That's

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Speaker 12: rent control.

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Speaker 9: And what that law is.

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Speaker 12: It prevents the cities from creating their own rent cap

1112
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Speaker 12: and control. And we all know the way this rent

1113
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 12: is a lot of people are at a point that

1114
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Speaker 12: they can't really afford it, and these landlords are constantly

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Speaker 12: going up on rent, and they go up on rent

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Speaker 12: every year. So how do you know the citizens of Cincinnati.

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Speaker 12: I'm just talking about Cincinnati right now, all right, but

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01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 12: this law carry's with the whole state of Ohio. So

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Speaker 12: how people are going to be able to continue to

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Speaker 12: afford to pay rent, and why would you all pays

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Speaker 12: a law like that.

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Speaker 3: That's my question, Joan, thank you for this question. It's

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Speaker 3: a good one and it points to a larger issue,

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Speaker 3: which is what often happens in Cincinnati and Columbus in

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Speaker 3: Cleveland is that the voters there want something, whether it

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Speaker 3: has to do with housing, often it has to do with,

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01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 3: you know, keeping the streets and communities safe from guns,

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01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 3: and the state legislature uses its power to overturn what

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01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 3: people want in those cities, right, to take that power

1130
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 3: away from people in cities. And this goes to I

1131
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 3: think the biggest issue that I want to try and

1132
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 3: convey about the role that state government plays in Ohio.

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01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 3: We can't afford to ignore what happens in the legislature

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01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 3: or what happens in Columbus, because they are able, as

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01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 3: Miss Joan noted, to actually overturn what people in Cincinnati

1136
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 3: want because that's where the power lies, right, it lies

1137
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 3: with the state legislature. And so we have an opportunity

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01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 3: in Cincinnati and Columbus and Cleveland the three c's if

1139
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 3: we vote the way we should vote the way, you know,

1140
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 3: and you know This means that elected official and politicians

1141
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 3: have to give reasons. People give people reasons to vote.

1142
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 3: But if we give people reasons to vote and people

1143
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 3: turn out and vote in big numbers in the three c's,

1144
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 3: we already have enough people in Ohio to turn things

1145
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 3: around in the state, especially in twenty twenty six, which

1146
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 3: should be a good year. Every single state wide candidate's

1147
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 3: on the ballot, the governor, the lieutenant governor, the auditor,

1148
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 3: the treasurer of the attorney general, and so we actually

1149
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 3: have an incredible opportunity in twenty twenty six try and

1150
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 3: break the supermajority, pick up some statewide elections. Send you know,

1151
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 3: Greg Landsman and others back to Congress. Send Sharon Brown

1152
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 3: back to the US Senate. Yes, because for the exact

1153
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 3: reason that Miss Joan was talking about, housing prices are

1154
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 3: too high, childcare is too high, Grocery prices are too high,

1155
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 3: and we have a state government that's putting its head

1156
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 3: in the sand and not doing anything about it.

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable. Well, Danny, I mean, Danny, Danny. All we can

1158
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 2: do is just hope that you guys go there and

1159
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 2: give us a good fight, fight for what we need

1160
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 2: down here. Because those Republicans have lost their minds and

1161
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 2: they don't give a damn about the people who put

1162
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 2: them in office. They don't care if they starve or whatever.

1163
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 2: They just don't care well.

1164
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 3: And our job is to fight as hard as we

1165
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 3: can and to find opportunities to get some stuff done

1166
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 3: when we can. Right, we don't get to put bury

1167
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 3: our heads in the sand, because our communities need us

1168
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 3: to be up there having an impact even from the

1169
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 3: super minority. Right, it's way harder to get a bill

1170
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 3: passed as a Democrat and a legislature with mostly Republicans,

1171
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 3: but you can still do it. It just takes four

1172
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 3: years instead of six months. But our job is to

1173
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 3: fight that fight for all four years to get it done.

1174
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 3: And we have a state legislative delegation between Cecil Thomas,

1175
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 3: Karen Brownlee, Ashley Bryant Bailey or newest member Rachel Baker

1176
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 3: from down here in Cincinnati that is able to deliver

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01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 3: even though we are a small help but mighty super minority.

1178
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 3: And that's my role as the Democratic leader is not

1179
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 3: only help us pick up seats and grow our power,

1180
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 3: but actually help our members have an impact. Even in

1181
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:57,439
Speaker 3: the situation we've got now and so we are able

1182
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 3: to get some bipartisan things done using the relationships we've built,

1183
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 3: and we still fight them on all the big issues

1184
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 3: that we disagree on, and so it's got to be both.

1185
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 2: All right, Donnie Isaacson, great talking to you. We'll do

1186
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 2: this again next month.

1187
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 3: I'll be coming one last plug for my toy drive.

1188
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 2: Sure, go ahead.

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01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 3: This is my fourth annual toy drive. I do an

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Speaker 3: in partnership with the Seven Hills Neighborhood House in the

1191
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 3: West End. This year, Judge Kerry Bloom is joining as well.

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01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 3: It's gonna be on Thursday. So if folks need toys

1193
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 3: for their families, you can sign up with Seven Hills

1194
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 3: Neighborhood House and we'll be there I think starting an

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01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 3: eleven or twelve on Thursday, given out toys. In the

1196
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 3: past we've given out toys for between five hundred and

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01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 3: one thousand families. Hopefully this year is even bigger. But

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01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:44,439
Speaker 3: you know, it's something that it's a really it's both

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01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 3: a happy day and a reminder of how much need

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01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 3: there is in our communities. So and if folks have

1201
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 3: toys to donate, you can drop them off with the

1202
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 3: Seven Hills neighborhood house between now and Thursday.

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01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 2: All right, sounds good to me. Thank you for joining

1204
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 2: me this morning, appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much. Happy holladays.

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01:06:57,600 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 4: Everyone, all right, let's take a break and then we'll

1207
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 4: come back. Twelve thirty the buzz she again. Yeah, Carl Carlton.

1208
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 4: She's a bad ma'am gemma passed away yesterday. And of

1209
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 4: course my favorite song is Everlasting Love by Carl Carlton.

1210
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 2: Uh Yeah. Born in nineteen fifty three December fourteenth, nineteen

1211
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 2: May twenty first, nineteen six fifty three, died on December fourteenth,

1212
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five yesterday, out of Detroit. Yeah, he was

1213
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 2: when he started his career in the mid fifties, he

1214
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 2: was little Carl Carlton. I mean in the mid sixties

1215
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 2: he was a little Carl Carlton and eventually changed that

1216
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 2: name to just Carl Carlton. Yeah.

1217
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 4: His first single was with Black Beat Records. Yes, died

1218
01:07:53,960 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 4: at the age of seventy two. She's a bad mamma

1219
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 4: jama all right, the late Carl Now.

1220
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 2: Who called that in? Who called that in?

1221
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 14: Uh?

1222
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 2: Ray ray call that in? No slide from Detroit and

1223
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 2: then Pharaoh called after sly Okay, everybody wants to get

1224
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 2: credit for being the first to pass that information along.

1225
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 2: Unbelievable and he Carl Carlton being from Detroit. Sly is

1226
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 2: from Detroit, so we know Sly had to get it

1227
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 2: in real quick. Yeah, but yeah, Carl Carlton, Bad Mama,

1228
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 2: Jamma and Everlasting Love one of my favorite songs.

1229
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 4: You played that the next one, Chad, every Lasting Love.

1230
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 4: I love that song. All right, let's get to the phones.

1231
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 4: Every line is busy, so I might as well get busy.

1232
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 4: Let's go to Dallas, Texas and talk to Brent. Look

1233
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:59,679
Speaker 4: like it's over for my Dallas Cowboys down there, Brent.

1234
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 8: Oh, it was over for them at the beginning season,

1235
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 8: like every year for the past twenty nine years.

1236
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 4: They're like the Bengals. They're like the Bengals, but at

1237
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 4: least they have one Super Bowl.

1238
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 8: So yeah, yeah, yeah, Carl Carlton, he had one of

1239
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 8: those Stony Jackson or what was his name, Johnny Kip

1240
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 8: style Jerry Curls back in the day. Yes, yes, well yeah,

1241
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 8: but that was a jam you know, she's a bad

1242
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 8: member of Gymer was definitely yeah, dam oh yeah, but yeah,

1243
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 8: let's let's talk about uh Trump and white people tackistockracer. Remember,

1244
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 8: is a government ran by the most incompetent and unscrupulous people.

1245
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 8: And I'm sure everyone could agree that Christy nom RKGJ.

1246
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 7: And your Pam Bond, the cash Fattil.

1247
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:53,480
Speaker 8: And Pete scept are some of the most unqualified unqualified.

1248
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 4: I mean, they don't need to be where they are.

1249
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 4: That's that's the truth right there. They don't know what

1250
01:09:59,040 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 4: the hell they are.

1251
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 8: I agree, Yeah, that is w e I white, entitled

1252
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 8: and incompetent. That's exactly what they are. And did you

1253
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 8: hear about the black farmers saying telling Trump, hell now,

1254
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 8: we don't want your money, right, you know, because the

1255
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 8: white farmers and the Republicans are the ones that are

1256
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:23,760
Speaker 8: trying to sue or who are currently sowing to keep

1257
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 8: them from getting the money, who are discriminated yep. And

1258
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 8: you know, the black farmers are good because their contracts

1259
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:35,640
Speaker 8: ain't tied through the government. They have they've gone to

1260
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 8: alternative markets because they've always had to in order to

1261
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 8: survive those who were able to hang on. So so

1262
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 8: it's just it's hilarious. And Trump said he's not gonna

1263
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 8: give it out until February so if that's that February, Yeah,

1264
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 8: farmers don't bank on that.

1265
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 2: You ain't just like people banking on their two thousand

1266
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 2: dollars from Trump.

1267
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 7: Yep, yep.

1268
01:10:57,080 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 8: And that is just insane in itself. Yeah, when with

1269
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 8: Connie Pillage, you know, kudos for her finally, you know,

1270
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:08,799
Speaker 8: vindicating mister Jones.

1271
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 7: Yes, but it shouldn't have taken.

1272
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 8: A fresh set of eyes to find all the things

1273
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 8: she claimed she and her first lieutenant or whatever was

1274
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 8: found out.

1275
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 2: Well, I guess.

1276
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 4: I mean, if the old set of eyes are the

1277
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 4: ones that were there when this whole thing started, yeah,

1278
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 4: you need a fresh set of eyes.

1279
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 8: But what she's talking about was damn near obvious. Where

1280
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:36,679
Speaker 8: just the basic of the with the whole whatever disease

1281
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 8: that the lady.

1282
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 2: Had, hepatitis B.

1283
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, just with that end of itself. But that's not

1284
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:45,799
Speaker 8: their goal. That was the beater's goal. You know, Deeters

1285
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 8: wants to keep his prosecutorial conviction rate high, you know,

1286
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 8: because he could go to the white folks.

1287
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:53,679
Speaker 7: Look, I'm tough.

1288
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 8: I don't care if I Raire waded this black man

1289
01:11:57,120 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 8: and and for her to to play I don't want

1290
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 8: to say she played dumb, but you've heard of Hurricane Carter. Yeah,

1291
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 8: you've heard of the Scottsboro Boys, right, yeah, oh yeah, yeah,

1292
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 8: you definitely heard of the Central Park five where you

1293
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 8: have prosecutorial mis conduct and police misconduct.

1294
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 5: So that's one of the main.

1295
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:24,600
Speaker 8: Reasons why I don't give them jokers the benefit of

1296
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:26,760
Speaker 8: the doubt whenever they come out with their story and

1297
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 8: have everything framed and everything, No, you got a history

1298
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 8: of being dirty. And until you go out of your way,

1299
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,599
Speaker 8: because until she gets rid of those prosecutors have involved

1300
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 8: in the case.

1301
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 2: Once she said they're gone, they're gone, they retired.

1302
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 8: They retired, Okay, well beaters are still around. She should

1303
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 8: whatever mechanism you have there in the state of Ohio

1304
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 8: to go after these past prosecutors who illegally prosecuted that man.

1305
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 8: Until you get rid of the so called see until

1306
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 8: you get rid of the bad actors, how can we

1307
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 8: trust anything that's still in there, because a lot of

1308
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 8: those prosecutors learned underneath.

1309
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 2: The Now he's on the State Supreme Court. He's on

1310
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 2: the State Supreme Court, now, yep.

1311
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:11,760
Speaker 8: Yep, And that is the problem. Yes, yeah, yeah, So

1312
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 8: it's that's pretty much all I have for today. We

1313
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 8: got cold down here, y'all said, from that cold there

1314
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 8: down here, we got down to like twenty nine degrees.

1315
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 2: Oh boy, I wish for twenty nine, you know. All right,

1316
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 2: all right, that's Brent. Let's go to Ray.

1317
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 8: Ray, what's up, blinking?

1318
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 2: What's going on?

1319
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:36,759
Speaker 7: Here's who I'm going to blame for Elwood Jones.

1320
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 8: You have to blame Deers because he said that the

1321
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 8: evidence he with hell wouldn't have made a difference to

1322
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 8: the jury. That's not for him to decide, right right, right.

1323
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 8: You blame Mike Allen because he had a chance to review.

1324
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 8: I don't know if anybody brought it up to Mike Allen.

1325
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 8: Remember he served two terms as proper utor. Yes, so

1326
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 8: you blame Mike Allen. You might want to blame the

1327
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:05,679
Speaker 8: And I hate to say this, but even the family

1328
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:09,719
Speaker 8: of the lady who died because they just wanted someone

1329
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 8: to pay. They really didn't care who was right.

1330
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 2: They wanted someone to pay. And now they're upset because

1331
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:19,760
Speaker 2: she dropped the charges after thirty years. I mean, I

1332
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 2: mean seemed like they said, okay, well least we got

1333
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 2: thirty years and okay, let's move on. But now they're

1334
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 2: upset at Connie Pillage for dropping the charges.

1335
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, but not only that, Lincoln. They shouldn't be upset

1336
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 8: at all because you want the actual person that did it. Now,

1337
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 8: if Elwood Jones is not the actual person that did it,

1338
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:37,680
Speaker 8: that means the guy still out there.

1339
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 4: Who's the person that these witnesses pointed at that the

1340
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 4: prosecutors ignored, right, right?

1341
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 8: And chances are if twelve people, twelve people said he was,

1342
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 8: that was that person. As the family of this lady,

1343
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 8: you would saying, get the right right and not the

1344
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 8: wrong person.

1345
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:54,720
Speaker 11: Right?

1346
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 8: You see what I mean?

1347
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 9: I hear you.

1348
01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 8: So there's a lot of people to blame. But so

1349
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 8: Lincoln Farrell, now this has shows you how much he

1350
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:06,760
Speaker 8: knows nothing about football. He says, one of his top

1351
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 8: three is Rinaldo near Miyah.

1352
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:08,599
Speaker 7: Right.

1353
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 8: You know how many years he played in the NFL? Uh?

1354
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 2: Two?

1355
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,679
Speaker 7: Was it two years? He played two years?

1356
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 8: I looked it up.

1357
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:19,799
Speaker 4: It seemed like parall just like the sprinters as wide receivers.

1358
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:23,839
Speaker 4: Bob Hayes, Right, what about.

1359
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 8: What I mean, what about Randy Moss or Kirk Carter?

1360
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:31,760
Speaker 8: You know, Jerry Rice. You know I would throw as

1361
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 8: far as running backs, I would put Emma Smith in there.

1362
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 3: You know he's the talk I mean Isaac Curtis.

1363
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:38,080
Speaker 2: You could put Isaac Curtis in there.

1364
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, so so Pharaoh do some research when it comes

1365
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:47,640
Speaker 8: to football. He knows nothing about it, you know what

1366
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 8: I mean?

1367
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:52,680
Speaker 4: Yes, I hear you right. Thanks for your Kyle unbelievable.

1368
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 4: Let's take a break.

1369
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 2: We'll come back.

1370
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 7: Uh.

1371
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:59,719
Speaker 2: Caleb two D J Key, Rick Junior and Jay Raise.

1372
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 4: Line is available at five one, three, seven four nine,

1373
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:05,639
Speaker 4: twelve thirty. The Lincoln Were Show twelve thirty The buzz

1374
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:09,759
Speaker 4: to Day out of Detroit.

1375
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 2: Carl Carlton all right, five one, three seven four nine,

1376
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 2: twelve thirty. Remember they go in threes, so look for

1377
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:21,719
Speaker 2: three black R and B singers to die within a month.

1378
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 2: We'll say Carl Carlton is number one. They go in threes.

1379
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 2: I'm telling y'all they go in threes. All right, Rick Jr.

1380
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 7: Ow you doing there pretty good? Sorry about the bigel.

1381
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 7: I guess you didn't cheap hope a strong enough? Well,

1382
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 7: I can't talk well, as.

1383
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:47,679
Speaker 2: They always say, we got to do better.

1384
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:52,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, oh, I'd call it you about the passion of

1385
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 7: Robin and.

1386
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:57,559
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, they was stabbed to death I guess by

1387
01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 4: their son who stabbed him to death. And I used

1388
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 4: to love him as meat head and all in the family.

1389
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 2: That show. All in the family. They got away with

1390
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 2: stuff that they couldn't dare get away with today because

1391
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 2: everybody's so politically correct. They said some stuff that was boy,

1392
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 2: he put gay people down, like you wouldn't believe.

1393
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:22,840
Speaker 4: Oh man, this guy put black people down. They couldn't

1394
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 4: get away with that stuff today.

1395
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:29,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's true. Oh and I'm glad that jole why

1396
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 7: they saw the life it was leased that job. But

1397
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 7: they said they murdered that lady and that blue ash

1398
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 7: or something.

1399
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:39,719
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah at Elwood Jones, Elwood Jones.

1400
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 7: Yes, did you keep up with what happened to William J. Mayo?

1401
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 8: Mayo?

1402
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:49,680
Speaker 2: Is he got out of jail and he died.

1403
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 7: He passed, right, Yeah, yeah, that's the same. And he

1404
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 7: was locked up with what seventeen years?

1405
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 2: It was a lot. I can't remember exactly how many,

1406
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:02,679
Speaker 2: but it was a lot. His mother is on Facebook live.

1407
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 7: Here now this joan. But they owe him some cash, right,

1408
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 7: how many how many dollars they owe him for every

1409
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:10,639
Speaker 7: year he was locked up or something?

1410
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 2: Say what now.

1411
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 7: You're a gentleman. They release the County owes him a

1412
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 7: bunch of bucks.

1413
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 2: Oh well, yeah, it's the state that will have to pay.

1414
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 2: It'll be the state.

1415
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 9: Yes, How does that work?

1416
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 2: I don't know how they look at him.

1417
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 4: I think they look at how much your earnings were

1418
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 4: when you got arrested, and then they multiply that by

1419
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:39,640
Speaker 4: thirty and then add a little bit for pain and

1420
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 4: suffering us whatever. I don't know, I think that's how

1421
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:45,800
Speaker 4: they do it. I'd have to ask somebody, like if

1422
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 4: a non rucker or somebody like that, who could tell

1423
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 4: you how how they figure that stuff out?

1424
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 7: Okay, okay, well thanks locking.

1425
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 2: All right, thanks for your call. Dj key. What's going on?

1426
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 11: Help the spanker speak of? How you Lincoln?

1427
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 2: Pretty good? What's up?

1428
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:05,639
Speaker 11: A lot of a couple of things, and i'nna quick.

1429
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 11: One of the things I read I was just reading

1430
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 11: this morning about the Bengals being in violation. Is that

1431
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 11: what you were speaking about, but.

1432
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:15,759
Speaker 2: Not cleaning the seats?

1433
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1434
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:20,759
Speaker 11: Yeah, the NFL, yeah said said they were in violation.

1435
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 2: Well, I think the NFL came back and said they didn't.

1436
01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 2: They really didn't violate anything. They did the main things

1437
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 2: they were supposed to do, and they're.

1438
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:32,640
Speaker 11: Supposed to people because and they had they had the

1439
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 11: reading of I guess you can cause their loll how

1440
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:39,760
Speaker 11: doing snow on ice, how the stadium is supposed to

1441
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:42,719
Speaker 11: be and it's not supposed to be ice on seats,

1442
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 11: snow on seats, all those type of things. Yeah, you know,

1443
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 11: and it's got listed. That's why they say those in violations.

1444
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:50,760
Speaker 11: That people is using credit cards trying to get the

1445
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:51,639
Speaker 11: ice off the seat.

1446
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:54,760
Speaker 4: I know, I know that's great, and then you're gonna

1447
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 4: sit on a cold seat like that that I mean,

1448
01:19:58,479 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 4: offer free tickets.

1449
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:01,640
Speaker 11: I remember the last time I went down there when

1450
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 11: I had free tailers. It was cold. I walked through it,

1451
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 11: I walked out of it. Yeah, you know, the water

1452
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 11: coming off.

1453
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 2: I was shocked at how many I was wondering. I

1454
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:12,240
Speaker 2: was shocked how many people actually did show up for

1455
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 2: the game yesterday.

1456
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 11: That the air coming off, that river come off the

1457
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 11: front man, that's just oh oh yeah. And you know,

1458
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 11: while the guy was there, I wanted to ask him,

1459
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 11: what kind of what kind of rights does the citizens have?

1460
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 11: Do they have any legal recourse on what the state

1461
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 11: that's doing a regarusted changing the marijuana laws that were

1462
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 11: voted on it seemed like it.

1463
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:33,759
Speaker 2: It seemed like some kind of lawsuit could be found.

1464
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 4: I'm not sure how that works, but it seemed like

1465
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:42,839
Speaker 4: the people who got that petition together and got it passed,

1466
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 4: they should file some kind of suit against the state.

1467
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:48,640
Speaker 11: I'm almost certain even though they're in a position they are,

1468
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:51,600
Speaker 11: but they just can't change. Just decided, you know, just

1469
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 11: to throw out some things that was voted on. I mean,

1470
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:57,719
Speaker 11: I mean unless it was like something that was harmed

1471
01:20:57,760 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 11: for the people or something like that, but it was

1472
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 11: things that was bolder I think, I know, but you got, Hey,

1473
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,639
Speaker 11: the Supreme Court if there is a Republican, the House

1474
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 11: is Republican, the Senate is Republican. I mean, it's a

1475
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 11: weird how the people that support them, I don't know

1476
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 11: what picture they're looking at. Yeah, because they're not doing things.

1477
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 11: I think they think that they're gonna go down on

1478
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 11: line and skip the RDS and only do things to

1479
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 11: the deeds or something. You know, yes, yes, but that's

1480
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 11: not how did they Broadbush? When it comes down, it's

1481
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:32,600
Speaker 11: have and have not. If you don't have, you know,

1482
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 11: they're gonna make sure you don't get yep, you know,

1483
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 11: And that's just pretty said The last thing I want

1484
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 11: to say, you know, when we since I'm speaking about

1485
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 11: Republicans and Democrats and something neither, I just you know

1486
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 11: a lot of things that happened last year. The majority

1487
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 11: of Counselor was Democrats, and I'm talking things like that

1488
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 11: rent increase. I do not believe that out of the

1489
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 11: blue they got blindsided by business coming here buying up

1490
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 11: all these things. That's just that's just impossible. Not that

1491
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:06,560
Speaker 11: amount of money, not that amount of people, but that

1492
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 11: like they got blindsided.

1493
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:10,680
Speaker 2: Who got blindsided? Who got blindsided?

1494
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 11: Counselor act like they were blind sid everybody down that

1495
01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 11: like it was blindsided about what happened, Like they were

1496
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 11: so surprised people came in buying a property, increasing the

1497
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 11: rent and all those type of things like they had

1498
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:24,600
Speaker 11: they hadn't clue, they had no clue that that was

1499
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 11: going on or that was even coming. That's just too

1500
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 11: much money of all the believer.

1501
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 4: Well, not like they came in and bought up they

1502
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 4: had already owned the property. They just kept going up

1503
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 4: on rents over the years. They already had owned that property.

1504
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 7: Remember that.

1505
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:40,840
Speaker 11: Remember I had complaints. As matter of fact, I thought

1506
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 11: they were putting together some kind of artiness about outside

1507
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 11: people buying them.

1508
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:47,639
Speaker 2: Well they did. I think they did do something.

1509
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if you can keep outside of from

1510
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:53,799
Speaker 4: buying property, but they put some guidelines up, I do believe.

1511
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 11: And the other quick thing the school funding. I know

1512
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 11: that's Hamilton County thing, and I don't know how much

1513
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:09,559
Speaker 11: oversight or influence city council could have, but the school

1514
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 11: funding cuts. To me, it sounds so ridiculous that now

1515
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 11: schools gotta merge.

1516
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:18,599
Speaker 2: And they got to do all these Well you heard

1517
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:23,640
Speaker 2: from Donnie Isaacson. It's the state. It's those idiots up

1518
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 2: at the State House, those Republicans that are doing all

1519
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 2: this stuff.

1520
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 11: I mean, the thing is, they decided, but it was

1521
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 11: decided apparently here that they can take public money and

1522
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 11: pay for private schools, and then when there's a shortfall

1523
01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:44,040
Speaker 11: in the public schools, it's their fault, something wrong with them,

1524
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:46,759
Speaker 11: something wrong with the system. And we need to merge

1525
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:47,680
Speaker 11: schools and stuff now.

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01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:51,679
Speaker 4: And there's more kids in the state going to public

1527
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:54,639
Speaker 4: schools than private schools, right, and they.

1528
01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 11: And they decided they don't need all that money. We'll

1529
01:23:56,800 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 11: take a billion so dollars and give it to ivate

1530
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 11: schools and now public schools are underfunded. Yep, that's twisted,

1531
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 11: a sick man, But I appreciate you giving me the time. Man.

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01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 2: Republicans are twisted and sick then you I thought you knew.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for your call. Thanks for your call, all right. Five, one, three, seven, four, nine,

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01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 2: twelve thirty Lincoln were with you till one o'clock this afternoon,

1535
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:26,800
Speaker 2: And uh, I think we'll go to news and then

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01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:27,360
Speaker 2: we'll come back.

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01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 4: We got Caleb. Two, we got Bruman. Maybe he's allowed

1538
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:35,479
Speaker 4: to make a call. We'll talk to him on the

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01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 4: Lincoln were show twelve thirty The Buzz