1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,800 Speaker 1: Good morning, Vietnam. 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 2: This is Ethan Hatcher and Jerry Lopez filling in on 3 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 2: the Kendall and Casey Show producer keV doing a hard 4 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 2: job and the producer's fish bowl, pushing the buttons and 5 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 2: doing the things to make the show function. 6 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: And we have an action packed program this morning. 7 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 2: Jerry, we're going to talk about the new police chief 8 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 2: that has been sworn in to serve for the IMPD. 9 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 2: We're also going to be discussing the debacle at the 10 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 2: Grammys where Hollywood hipsters acted hypocritically to nobody's great surprise. 11 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: Milk is racist in ways that you never imagined. 12 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 2: There was a wonderful article I've not laughed so hard 13 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 2: in Gears lampooning the Trump milk bill that was signed 14 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: into law recently. And then also first hour, we're going 15 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: to discuss the way that AI can be used to 16 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: continue to exploit people after their death. Lots to get 17 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: into and I guess that's an unfortunate transition into the 18 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: first story for this morning, which is the seventeen year 19 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: old Hayley Buzzby. Her remains were discovered on Sunday evening. 20 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: The suspect led them straight to the remains. Of course, 21 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 2: he continues to maintain that he will enter a not 22 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 2: guilty plea, at least according to his legal representation. But 23 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: this is pretty much the outcome nobody wanted to see 24 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: happen for this young this young lady. It's it's incredibly tragic, 25 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 2: and now her father is wanting there to be a 26 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: legislative addition to address this. 27 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a horrible thing. It's in some kind of way. 28 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 3: I mean, if if the outcome had to be her 29 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 3: not coming home, I'm glad that it can be over 30 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 3: for the family. Like you said, they did discover the body, 31 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 3: so they do get to bring her home under the 32 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 3: worst circumstances. But it's just a great reminder that you 33 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 3: know that they say that she might have met this 34 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 3: man on some online game. They haven't named the game, 35 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 3: but the name Roadblocks has been floating around for for 36 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 3: months now as a place where sometimes some of these 37 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 3: things happen. 38 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: Well, parents need to check their kids online activity. 39 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, Roadblocks. As a candidate, I'm not sure a seventeen 40 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 2: year old going to be. 41 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: Playing that it happened. Well, it real. 42 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: Ultimately, it doesn't even matter what the game was, the 43 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 2: issue is that he exploited this connection that he formed 44 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 2: with a young woman online. And that's more often than not, 45 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 2: that's the foot in the door for these creeps and 46 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: these weirdos to get into your children's life because that, 47 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: you know, stranger danger. They're more often than not, they're 48 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: not going to get into a car with a stranger. 49 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 2: They get into a car with somebody that they feel 50 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: there's a connection to. And because she was a young woman, 51 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: you know, obviously it's unwise to be getting into a 52 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: vehicle with a thirty seven year old, but you know, 53 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: you feel that you've made that connection. Oh, it's not 54 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 2: a stranger, it's a friend. It's somebody that I've met 55 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: through social media, and obviously somebody that she did not 56 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 2: know well enough. The suspects name being Tyler Thomas, who 57 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 2: him self seems like an incredibly unstable individual. I believe 58 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 2: he doesn't even have a house. He spending time being homeless. 59 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 3: Well, and I guess I say some of this might 60 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: have taken place at a short term rental, Yes, things 61 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 3: along that line. Bail has been set for him or 62 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 3: a bond's been set one point five million cashierty bond. 63 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 3: Next court data scheduled for Tuesday, February tenth. His attorney 64 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 3: said his client has absolutely zero tension of making this bond. 65 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 3: We turned mister Thomas into authorities on Saturday for the 66 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 3: request of local police. 67 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: And police, specifically the Fisher's police chief, edel Or Gebhart 68 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 2: had explained how they were able to make the connection 69 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 2: between the suspect and the victim and it was through 70 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: technological means they were able to identify the vehicle and 71 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: then of course using his social media announces to connect 72 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: that activity with this young woman. 73 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: Here was the press press announcement. 74 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 4: Using technology, art executive identify Thomas as. 75 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: As suspect she had left with. 76 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 4: We made contact with him in Ohio and he admitted 77 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 4: to Peggy Halo at her home and told us that 78 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 4: he dropped her off on the side of the road 79 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 4: in western Ohio. However, we continuing investigations, his initial story 80 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 4: was determined to be untrue free contend because those who 81 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 4: worked with the UNBI, the INDISCA Police, and Rohio partners. 82 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: The Columbus Police Department and. 83 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 4: The Hockey County Sharf's office, and after further investigation, Columbus 84 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 4: Police Department Thomicide Unit assisted in serving search warms where 85 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 4: more evidence was collected at the home and the vehicle 86 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 4: he had picked Hailey up. 87 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: In the investigation. 88 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 4: He confirmed hadriy to me at the Thomas home and 89 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 4: Columbus and at a short term rental in Hockey County. 90 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 4: This is not the outcome that any of us had wanted. 91 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,559 Speaker 4: We had connected her parents with resources that would help them, 92 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 4: and we will stay committed to support her family. 93 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: Through this tragic time. 94 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,799 Speaker 2: And in that press conference, it struck me the double 95 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 2: edged sword that technology is, because it was through technology 96 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 2: that this individual was able to make contact with the suspect, 97 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: but it was also through technology that police were able 98 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 2: to bring a relatively swift resolution to this investigation. And 99 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: one wonders like during the nineteen seventies, during the nineteen 100 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 2: sixties or earlier, when you didn't have this kind of 101 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: technology readily available, then she could have just ended up 102 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 2: being another faceless victim with no resolution, a cold case 103 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 2: that would still be open today. But thankfully, because of 104 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: the cameras, because of the privacy that I guess we've 105 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: sacrificed by keeping these smart devices in our pockets with 106 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 2: us at all times, then police are able to utilize 107 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 2: those resources and find suspects to bring resolution to tragic 108 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 2: situations like this. 109 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 3: And there's definitely a very good chance that if I 110 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 3: want to find you, I'll just follow the pinging phone. 111 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 3: There's almost one hundred percent chance that you will have 112 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 3: your phone on you or around you within the next 113 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 3: couple of minutes, no matter what you do. So if 114 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 3: you ever become a suspect, we easily find you. The 115 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 3: problem is if you can backdoor of that now k 116 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 3: somebody might have your child's location or different examples like that, 117 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 3: and then you find yourself an unfortunate circumstance. You made 118 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 3: a great point earlier about stranger danger. When we were 119 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 3: growing up, it was don't get in the car with 120 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 3: a stranger. And now that stranger has access to your child, 121 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 3: to all of us at any given moment via just 122 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 3: a direct message or anything like that. 123 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: More often than not, crime is not mostly truly random, 124 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: and in some ways that's reassuring. In other ways it's 125 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 2: deeply horrifying because that means most of the time, if 126 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 2: you were being victimized, if you're being robbed, if you're 127 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 2: being murdered, if you're being sexually abused, it's from somebody 128 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,119 Speaker 2: you know there is some connection, whether that be through 129 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 2: a relative or through a friend, or through a social 130 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: media connection. It's somebody within your sphere of influence. 131 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 3: Yep, it's too bad. Yeah, I'm glad it's over. I'm 132 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 3: glad it's over. 133 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean, at least they have some kind 134 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 2: of resolution and they can begin to move forward and 135 00:06:58,080 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 2: deal with the loss. 136 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: But your life is never going to be the same, 137 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: not at all. But throw the book at this guy, absolutely, 138 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: you have to. 139 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 2: And the father is now asking for another alert to 140 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 2: be built into Indiana's very successful alert system. I have 141 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 2: mixed feelings about this because, of course, the emotional response 142 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 2: is that sounds like an incredibly good idea, let's expand it. 143 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: But the reason why Indiana's alert system has been so 144 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:27,559 Speaker 2: successful is because it is so narrowly defined and because 145 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:31,239 Speaker 2: it has specific qualifiers before they send out these alerts, 146 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 2: because then people are more likely to. 147 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: Take them seriously. 148 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 2: So when they send out a silver alert for you know, 149 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: elderly people, or when they send an Amber alert for 150 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 2: missing or endangered children, there are those specific requirements to 151 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: satisfy before the emergency alerts are deployed. 152 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: And that that's why. 153 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: More than any other state, like our state actually is 154 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 2: incredibly successful with the implementation of these alerts. And now 155 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: the father, in the wake of this incredible tragedy, is 156 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: wanting to add the pink alert to the system. That 157 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 2: would be Hayley's Law, and it's intended to ensure timely 158 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: public notification with disappearances involving unusual or concerning circumstances, and 159 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: it would mandate predator awareness education. In Indiana, schools focused 160 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: on online grooming, did digital manipulation and coercive tactics used today? 161 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: So I get you know, I guess to get the 162 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 2: ball rolling with teachers, with family members and get them 163 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 2: to identify these connections even more expeditiously and maybe in 164 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 2: the future. I imagine the intention is to make sure 165 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 2: that these people are safe. These young children are being 166 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 2: saved before they meet untimely ends like a Hailey buzzby. 167 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 3: I can't imagine that schools aren't already talking to kids 168 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 3: about grooming an online activity and things like that. How 169 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,719 Speaker 3: I mean, most of this stuff is happening behind a 170 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 3: parent's back. How's a parent supposed to note that the 171 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 3: pink alert is in effect so to speak. 172 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolue. 173 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 3: That's the question, right, Like, probably more often than not, 174 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 3: one of these kids who goes missing would fall into 175 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 3: this criteria. 176 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you haven't been tracking your children's or 177 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 2: monitoring your children's online use, this is a wake up 178 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 2: call to get involved because it is more often than 179 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 2: not involvement that is a means to prevent outcomes like this. 180 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: Well, and the reality is screw your kids, privacy, your 181 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: jobs to keep them safe. 182 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 2: Yes, at the end of the day, speaking of safety, 183 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 2: we now have a new police chief that was sworn 184 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 2: in over the weekend by Mayor. 185 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: Joe hog Set. 186 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 2: This is a twenty seven year old or twenty seven 187 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: year I should say not year old, twenty seven year veteran. 188 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: That would be different. That's a different thing that'd be 189 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: more likely, more likely in some cities. 190 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 2: A twenty seven year veteran of the force, Tanya Terry, 191 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 2: who is now the Chief of Police for IMPD. Of course, 192 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 2: this after Chris Bailey is stepping down and becoming the 193 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 2: deputy Mayor of the hog Set administration. 194 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 5: Kanya Terry has been sworn as the new chief of 195 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 5: Police for IMPD. She's served in the department for twenty 196 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 5: seven years. That includes two years as Deputy Chief of Operations. 197 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 5: She's the first woman to serve in this role. 198 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 6: Public safety remains our top priority. Reducing violent crime remains 199 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 6: our number one mission, and we will pursue it relentlessly, 200 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 6: protecting life both in our community and within our department 201 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 6: well guide every action. 202 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 5: She is replacing former Chief of Police Chris Bailey, who 203 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 5: announced he was stepping down last month to become Mayor 204 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 5: hog Seat's new chief of Staff. 205 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: No, don't like that now. 206 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 2: I will say that at least Indiana did it better 207 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 2: than zoron Mom Donnie in New York City because they 208 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 2: did nominate somebody who has experienced being a police officer. 209 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: Whether she ends up being a good chief of police 210 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 2: or not remains to be seen. But unlike Mom Donnie 211 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 2: who nominated the fire chief to be somebody who had 212 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 2: never actually served as a firefighter. So they did at 213 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 2: least promote from within this time. 214 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think one of the things that we 215 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,599 Speaker 3: need to be very cautious of is throwing around the 216 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 3: term DEI anytime somebody who's not a white male gets hired. 217 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. Right, this lady is qualified. She just happens to 218 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: be a woman. 219 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 3: Yes, twenty seven years on the forest. Yeah, I think 220 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 3: you're good enough to do the job. Let's now, let's 221 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 3: see what you do. But it's when you get the unqualified, 222 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 3: like you said, twenty seven year old. 223 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: If she's a twenty seven. 224 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 3: Year old black trans female with two years experience who 225 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 3: gets the position, well then that would be the I. 226 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, and you're right. 227 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 2: But I think the way that DEI has been implemented, 228 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 2: it causes people's you know, awareness to be raised when 229 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 2: these kinds of appointments are made because they have historically 230 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 2: turned out so disastrously, when nominations have been made not 231 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 2: based on merits, but based off of political identifiers or 232 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 2: no argument external identifier. 233 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: Yes, no argument at all. 234 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 2: So you know, at the end of the day, she 235 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 2: is the new police chief, and for the sake of Indianapolis, 236 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 2: we do sure nothing but success and hopefully she will 237 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 2: be worthy of the role. That's all we can ask. 238 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 3: Yeah and listen, Chris Bailey, according to the numbers, has 239 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 3: the city go in the right direction. Hopefully she can 240 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 3: just continue it on the same path. We got a 241 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 3: long way to go, but at least we're going the 242 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 3: right way. 243 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: Maybe she can whip Ryan meres into shape. Let's hope. 244 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 2: Let's hope. Stay tuned to ninety three WIBC. This is 245 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 2: Ethan and Jerry filling in on the Kendall and k 246 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 2: C Show. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. You're listening to 247 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 2: ninety three WIBC. This is the Kendall and k C 248 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 2: Show with Ethan Hatcher and Jerry Lopez filling in. This Sunday, 249 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 2: we had the Grammys and these Hollywood celebrities did what 250 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 2: they do best and acted like a bunch of sanctimonious prudes, 251 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 2: lecturing the rest of America on what is right, moral, 252 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 2: and proper, in this case hypocritically when these people say 253 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 2: we are living on stolen land, but aren't surrendering their 254 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 2: multimillion dollar mansions, as was the case for the talented 255 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 2: and attractive singer Billie Eilish but not much of a 256 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 2: political commentator Jerry Lopez. 257 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: Listen. 258 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 3: I don't know why they think just because they can sing, 259 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 3: that we even care what their opinions are on half 260 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 3: of these issues makes absolutely no sense to me. 261 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: Ricky Gervais rant at the Golden Globes of regarding this 262 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 2: remains undefeated. Nobody wants to hear these Hollywood celebrities lecture us, 263 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 2: but that doesn't stop them. 264 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 7: No one is illegal on stolen land. 265 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: And yeah, it's just really hard to know. 266 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 6: What to say and what to do right now. 267 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 7: And I just I. 268 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: Feel really hopeful in this room, and I feel like 269 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: we just need to keep fighting and speaking up and protesting, 270 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 1: and our voices really do matter, and the people matter. 271 00:13:56,040 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: And noticed the vacant stare, the completely miless look. That 272 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: could only mean one thing. 273 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 2: She's from California, I mean to ever notice how their 274 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 2: ideas are fundamentally compromised from their inception. How can land 275 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 2: be stolen if borders aren't real? 276 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: It's a great point. That's a great point. 277 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 8: You know. 278 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 2: And for that matter of course, Billy Eilish sitting on 279 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: a lavish, fourteen million dollar mansion that historically sat on 280 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: Native American tribal soil. 281 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: And I don't think she's offering that back, is she? 282 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 3: So she's on stolen land that she's referring to, she's 283 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 3: literally she's keeping it. 284 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's keeping it. 285 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: This was something that Scott Jennings, CNN Senior contributor mentioned 286 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 2: on his podcast, and I'd looked up because I was 287 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 2: it wasn't sure when the Scott Jennings Show had started. 288 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: It launched a July of last year. So if you 289 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: aren't getting enough Scott Jennings on CNN, now you can 290 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 2: get his unfiltered. 291 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: Commentary in a standalone format. What does she mean by 292 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: stolen land? 293 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 9: Radical communists like Billie Eilish, who, if it's handsomely I 294 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 9: might add, from American capitalism, believe that America was stolen 295 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 9: from the Native Americans, meaning that we have no right 296 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 9: to enforce laws today, chiefly immigration laws. By the way, 297 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 9: Billie Eilish lives in a fourteen million dollar mansion in 298 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 9: Los Angeles on property that was once inhabited by the 299 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 9: Tongva tribe. So far as we can tell, she hasn't 300 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 9: taken any steps to return her mansion and surrounding property 301 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 9: to its rightful owners. 302 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: But we'll keep you posted. 303 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 9: People like Billie Eilish are, of course stupid. 304 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: Assume observation led to laughter. 305 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 7: We are laughing. 306 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: Because these people don't notice their own hypocrisy. It gets old. 307 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 3: It gets so old, Jerry, you know, but this happens 308 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 3: all around the place. Look at the politicians like Nancy 309 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 3: Pelosi who want to take away your right to bear aren't. 310 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 3: But they're surrounded by armed security. Look at people like 311 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 3: Barack Obama who want to lecture you about climate change. 312 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 3: Taylor Swift one, I'll let you about climate change while 313 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 3: flying around private everywhere they go and buying on the 314 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 3: tip tip coast of Martha's vineyard. 315 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, beachfront property. 316 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 2: Then we say, will be water logged in a matter 317 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 2: of years. 318 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: We can't. 319 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 3: We can't protect our country. But I have walls around 320 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 3: my estate. 321 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 2: And of course, social media influencer Drew Pavlou from Australia 322 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 2: says that he was happy to hear Billy Eilish announce 323 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 2: that nobody is illegal and you can't be living on 324 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 2: stolen land. So he will be overtaking the mansion on 325 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 2: her beachfront property. 326 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 8: Big news, everybody. I've decided today to move into Billy 327 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 8: Eili's just six million dollars Malibu beach side mansion. She 328 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 8: announced it that the gravity is that no human being 329 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 8: is illegal on stole land. 330 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: No one is illegal on stolen land. 331 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 8: So I'm going to be making the trip to America. 332 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: I'm packing my bags right away. 333 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 8: I'm looking forward to just taking possession of her six 334 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 8: million dollar Malavou mansion. No human being is illegal. 335 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: So I want to thank everybody who's believed. 336 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 8: To me on this journey. 337 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: I really can't wait to move. 338 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 8: In now my house. I want to thank Billy Otis 339 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 8: as local general city. 340 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: Thank you so much doing I mean, make these people 341 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 2: put their money where their mouth is. 342 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 3: Literally, yeah, I mean listen, she will call the cops 343 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 3: on you because that is her house and you don't 344 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 3: belong there. 345 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, yeah. O again. Rules for thee but not 346 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: for me, And that's how it always works. At the 347 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 1: end of the day. 348 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 2: The only thing that these Hollywood celebrities are doing is 349 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 2: driving more supporters to the Republican Party because people are 350 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 2: sick of being lectured by these multimillion dollar elites telling 351 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,479 Speaker 2: us how to live, something that comedian Bill Maher pointed 352 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 2: out Democrats. 353 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 7: It's great you have all the big celebs, but people 354 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 7: see them as an arm of the Democratic Party, which 355 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 7: they arely suspect for lacking common sense. I know, I 356 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,479 Speaker 7: know the celebrities mean well, and we thank them for 357 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 7: having their heart in the right place. 358 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 1: But just do you do what you do so well, 359 00:17:59,000 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: use your. 360 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 7: Extraordinary, very talents for the noble cause of bringing relief 361 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 7: from the problems that ribbons and pins can't fix. I 362 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 7: know it's very important to you that you feel that 363 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 7: you're making a difference. 364 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: So let me assure you you are. 365 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 7: You're making independence. 366 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: Vote Republican. He's out of line, but he's right. 367 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 2: We want to be entertained, not to be lectured, especially 368 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 2: by these people. 369 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 3: Now the Republican's got to do about it right of 370 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 3: keeping some of those independences that come over. 371 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: But that's a completely different discussion. 372 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 2: Stay tuned in ninety three WIBC. Coming up next, we 373 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 2: have Jared Lewis with the news. Welcome back to the 374 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 2: Kendall and Casey Show. I'm Ethan Hatcher filling and joined 375 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 2: by the great Jerry Lopez and Jerry I haven't laughed 376 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 2: this hard at a piece of political commentary in a 377 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 2: long time, not since I read the article to crying 378 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 2: the evils of cultural appropriation after he saw a bowl 379 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 2: of hummus at the grocery store. Yeah, said, you know, 380 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 2: nobody can make hummus like my grandmother is. Stop these 381 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 2: white people from appropriating hummus. 382 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: It's great evil. 383 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 3: So you sent me the rough outline yesterday and I 384 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 3: giggled when I saw this, and when I came in 385 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 3: and saw the full and I just we just looked 386 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 3: at each other. 387 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 2: And I just cracked up the title of the article, 388 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 2: what does the Trump Administration's Milk Bill mean for Black children? 389 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 2: One of these sweeping assertions made in this article, the 390 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 2: future of the country is not lactose tolerant by default. 391 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: I love the line. 392 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 2: I love the line, And of course, the reality is 393 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 2: that milk apparently is extremely, extremely racist. When the Trump 394 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 2: administration signed the so called Whole Milk for Healthy Kids Act, 395 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 2: the mainstream media conversation remain narrowly focused on debates over 396 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 2: fat content or calories, dairy farmers, and school lunch menus. 397 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 2: But for black people, milk has never just been milk. 398 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 2: It has always been bound up with power, race, and 399 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 2: whose bodies are valued and whose children are expected to thrive. 400 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: And they went on from there. 401 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 2: Jerry, this is I can't imagine what a drag this 402 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 2: person must be to be around at parties? 403 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 3: Am I out of line for thinking that this is 404 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 3: already extremely racist? Like, look, we've already said you can't 405 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 3: use a computer. That was Kathy Holkele, governor of New York. Yes, 406 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 3: you don't know how to. 407 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: Use a computer. 408 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 3: You're incapable of getting your own ID. And now milk 409 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 3: has been oppressing you your whole life. 410 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 2: Well, they want to give us historical overview, Jerry, because 411 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 2: they say, to understand why this moment feels so loaded. 412 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: You have to go all the way back to the plantation. Yes, 413 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 1: you have to go. 414 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 2: Back to the plantation to understand milk politics in the 415 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 2: twenty first set? Does that even? Does that even track? 416 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 2: Does that comport with any known reality? Or is this 417 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 2: just the rantings of a lunatic. I'm inclined to believe 418 00:20:58,800 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 2: the latter. 419 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 3: Listen, I did not know this whole time that I 420 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 3: was being racially oppressed every time I didn't ask for 421 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 3: soyet Starbucks. 422 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 2: In the nineteenth century, the politics of milk became a 423 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 2: full blown public health crisis in northern cities. The so 424 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 2: called milk problem, referred to contaminated, watered down, diseased cow's 425 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 2: milk sold to the poor, infant mortality rates sword But 426 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 2: as with everything else, the response was racialized. Reformers and 427 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 2: pediatricians focused on their concern resources and pure milk campaigns 428 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 2: on saving white babies, Black Infants who were focused or 429 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 2: who were forced into the crowded, segregated neighborhoods, were denied 430 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 2: clean water, refrigeration, and medical care, continued to die at 431 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 2: disproportionate rates. Their deaths were treated as tragic but inevitable, 432 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 2: and explained away as a reflection of ignorance and backwardness 433 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 2: rather than neglect. At the same time, racist imagery flooded 434 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 2: American culture. The black mammy holding a plump white baby, 435 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 2: the loyal wetnurse, whose milk and love were imagined as 436 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,959 Speaker 2: natural resources for white families. Milk became a symbol of 437 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 2: civilization and purity. Whiteness was associated with clean, wholesome nourishment. 438 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 2: Blackness was associated with dirt deficiency and biological lack. So, 439 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 2: if you are drinking a glass of milk at school, Cherry, 440 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 2: you are you are participating in racist, white supremacist culture. 441 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 3: So, as a kid who at Dieps and was on 442 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 3: free lunch, they gave me milk every single day. 443 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: Did they force you to drink the milk? I mean 444 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 1: I had a choice. Okay, there we go. That's that's 445 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: the whole thing here. That's the whole reason why Trump signed. 446 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 2: The Healthy Whole Milk Kids or Whole Milk for Healthy 447 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 2: Kids act was to bring choice back into the classrooms. 448 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 2: Because they took the whole milk away, They're not forcing 449 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 2: you to drink it. If you want a soda, you 450 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 2: can still get a soda. If you want to drink water, 451 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 2: you can still drink water. I'm sure they got some 452 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 2: apple juice at these school rooms too, If you want 453 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 2: to get some apple juice, Nobody is forcing you to 454 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 2: drink milk. 455 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: It's so exhausting. Haven't you chased these. 456 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 2: People around who view life through everything through this racialized lens. 457 00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: It gets exhausting. 458 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 3: Well, that part is there is a certain demographic of 459 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 3: people that actually listen to this and they use this 460 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 3: as reasons why the world is unfair to them. 461 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 462 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 2: Well, they go on to say that the biological fact 463 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 2: matter is in this conversation because lactose intolerance is not 464 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 2: a defect. It is a normal human variation, especially common 465 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 2: among people whose ancestral diets did not center on dairy. Bloating, 466 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 2: stomach pain, inflammation, diarrhea, and nausea are routine outcomes when 467 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 2: those bodies are forced to treat dairy as a staple. 468 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 2: So what does it mean, in this context, for a 469 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 2: federal government to recenter whole cowl's milk as the symbolic 470 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 2: nutritional anchor of healthy childhood. It means reasserting a white 471 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 2: European digestive norm as universal. It means treating whiteness as 472 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 2: the biological baseline, And it means asking the nation's actual 473 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 2: future to adapt, endure discomfort, or be marked as a 474 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 2: problem body to a fit standard that. 475 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: Was never designed for them. So, yes, you were. 476 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 2: You were being oppressed by re reinstituting milk in the classroom. 477 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: Now you yourself say, I am blacktose intolerant. Yeah, you're 478 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,959 Speaker 1: lactose intolerate. Well, there you go. I didn't know it 479 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: was your fault, Thanks Ethan. 480 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 2: I never considered that your body was not the biological baseline. 481 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 3: Why I qualify for reparations now that I can't have 482 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 3: regular milk? 483 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: I believe you do. You were owed years of back 484 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: cereal salary. Let's do it. 485 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 3: I haven't had a bowl cereal in years. I might 486 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 3: just do it today to overcome systemic racism. Lucky charms, 487 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 3: I'm on my way. 488 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 2: They continue that milk has always been deeply racial. 489 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: Who the hell milk has. 490 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 2: Been deeply racial when people started integrating cows into domesticated 491 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 2: animals tens of thousands of years ago. It's been deeply racial, 492 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 2: they continue to assert, it has been long coated as white, pastoral, wholesome, natural, 493 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 2: and civilizational. 494 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: Well, I've never heard of milk called it's not coated white. 495 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: It is white. It's just it. 496 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 2: Milk is white. It doesn't it doesn't matter who's making 497 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 2: the milk either. It's just the way it looks. 498 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: I now have a whole new mindset of chocolate milk. 499 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: It's there we go on. 500 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 3: Is that is that the black from back in the day. 501 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 3: It's like you're water found our water fountain, your milk, 502 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 3: our milk. 503 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: Put a little bit Hershey syrup in there. That'll solve 504 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: the problem. 505 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 2: They say that milk is bound up with images of 506 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 2: the sturdy white farm child, the white nuclear family, the 507 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 2: myth of white biological strength and moral purity, moral purity 508 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 2: the far right and white nationalist subcultures. Milk has even 509 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 2: become the explicit symbol of whiteness and suppose genetic superiority. Meanwhile, 510 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: the actual children who will make up our future disproportionately black, Latino, Indigenous, 511 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 2: and Asian, So you're coming out on top, Jerry. 512 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're listed second. 513 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 2: They're the very ones most likely to experience discomfort and 514 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 2: exclusion under a dairy centric standard. 515 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: According to the article, this is. 516 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 2: How policy becomes symbolic violence, not through overt declarations of 517 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 2: racial hierarchy, but through quiet normalization of whose bodies are 518 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 2: standard and whose bodies are deviations, through whose biology is 519 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 2: designed around, and whose is expected to conform. So the 520 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 2: politics of milk, Kevin, did you realize you were a 521 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 2: racist every time you had a bowl of cereal? Just 522 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 2: slurping on that milk like a good white supremacist. 523 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. 524 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 6: Now I'm wondering if I need to stop drinking milk altogether. 525 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 2: Yes, you should apologize immediately for participating in inherently racist imagery. 526 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 2: Apparently drink I never knew, never knew. 527 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 3: To overcome racism in Black History Month. I'm going to 528 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 3: give myself diarrhea the rest of the day after I 529 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 3: have a glass. 530 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: Of milk all the way home. 531 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 2: You learn something new every day, especially here on the 532 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 2: Kendle and Casey Show. And like I said, this article 533 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 2: hasn't made me laugh so far. 534 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: There was serious that's a real article. This is not satire. No, 535 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: it's not a joke. Somebody really said that. I mean, 536 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: it is a joke, but it's not a good one. 537 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 2: If you want to read the whole article for yourself, 538 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 2: you can find it just google What does the Trump 539 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 2: Administration's milk bill mean for Black Children? I'm sure it'll 540 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 2: be the first article that comes up. Have yourself good 541 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 2: laugh today, and with that, stay tuned to ninety three WIBC. 542 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 2: Coming up next, This is a story I wanted to 543 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 2: get to for a few months now. Jerry just haven't 544 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 2: had the time. Lots of things going on in the news, 545 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 2: but it's been troubling. This is the way that stan 546 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 2: Lee has continued to be exploited even after death, and 547 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 2: possibly a horrifying glimpse into the future of how AI 548 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 2: is going to be utilized. So we'll tell you more 549 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 2: about that coming up next. Stay tuned to ninety three WIBC. 550 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 2: This is the Kendall in Casey Show. 551 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 9: Spider Man. 552 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 10: Spider Man Spider came Spiny size, can't you see just. 553 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: My guys lookout? 554 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to ninety three WIBC. This is the 555 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 2: Kendall and k C show an appropriate song choice from 556 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 2: producer keV considering we're discussing how the late, the Great, 557 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 2: the Magnificence stan Lee continues to be exploited even after death, 558 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 2: and this kind of bothers me, Jerry, especially if you 559 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 2: know much about how stan Lee was really kind of 560 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 2: abused in his later years and exploited for financial gain 561 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,239 Speaker 2: from Marvel and by unscrupulous individuals who just wanted to 562 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 2: co opt his iconography for their own financial benefit. And 563 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 2: even after death, he continues not to get rest. And 564 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 2: I find this very very sad and possibly a horrifying 565 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 2: glimpse into how AI is going to be used and 566 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 2: more correctly abused. 567 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 3: Well, it's very unfortunate what's happened to him. And here's 568 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 3: the sad part. Is probably not just going to end 569 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 3: with stan Lee. This may be the beginning of something 570 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 3: that we continue to see happen, and the wheels can 571 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 3: come completely fall off this thing. 572 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 2: So what we're discussing is a hologram of stan Lee 573 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 2: that was powered by AI, and they deployed this to 574 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 2: a lot of criticism at the LA Comic Con last year. 575 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 2: Like I said, I've been sitting on this story for 576 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 2: a couple of months, but I figured now would be 577 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 2: a good time to finally dive into it, because, of course, 578 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 2: AI continues to get more advanced and sophisticated every single day. 579 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 2: And listen to listen to how they plugged this thing 580 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 2: into AI to put words into stan Lee's mouth. Stan 581 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 2: Lee didn't have all these opinions, at least not when 582 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 2: he was in life. But here is how his imagery 583 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 2: has continued to be exploited even after death. 584 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: Here today has Hollows to join you in the. 585 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 10: Twenty twenty five Los Angeles Comic Con. For decades I 586 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 10: had the thrill of spinning the arms about heroes in 587 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 10: my village in that mighty Marven manner of life. But 588 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 10: the real heroes of all we than you, the fans 589 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 10: whose excitement kept those stories alive. The world may be 590 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 10: a little money now and then, but as long as 591 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 10: we share our stories and imaginations there, we'll always be 592 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 10: room for hoping, hearts and errors. So thank you for 593 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 10: keeping the dream alive, Excelsior. 594 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 2: There was also a clip from later in the video 595 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 2: where I mean, this thing is interactive, It's not just prescripted, 596 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 2: where one of the members of the crowd asked stan Lee, Well, 597 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 2: you know, tell us more about how you incorporated the 598 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 2: civil rights into the X book comic books. And Stanley 599 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 2: has already gone on the record that was not the 600 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 2: genesis of his idea when he was you know, thinking 601 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 2: up these these you know, comic book superheroes. That was 602 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 2: something that was imposed after the fact, late later, mostly 603 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 2: by fans. 604 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how far this goes, right, 605 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 3: So I remember remember it was year maybe ten years 606 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 3: ago at this point. Remember they brought out some Tupac 607 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 3: hologram and he was dead and that was a big thing. 608 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 3: But that was literally just a hologram that danced on stage. 609 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 3: We are now entering the precipice of interactive AI hologram 610 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 3: that now is putting words into dead people's mouth. 611 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 2: And that's the important thing here because not all of 612 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 2: the things that stan Lee is saying. There may be 613 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 2: opinions that stan Lee himself had held, And but you're 614 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 2: giving people the incorrect perception, the miss you misinformation that 615 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 2: well it is coming from stan Lee. 616 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: That's hollow stan Lee. 617 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 2: But you know it's like exploiting a corpse, you know, 618 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 2: making him into a puppet, and that just seems like 619 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 2: a very inappropriate use for AI. This is a conversation. 620 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 2: Of course, it's come up in the past and other productions. 621 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 2: Disney had somewhat unethically resurrected Peter Cushing for the what 622 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 2: was a twenty fifteen Rogue one movie. Peter Cushing, of 623 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 2: course had been dead for a long time, but they 624 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 2: brought him back to be Grand Moth Tarkin. They did 625 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 2: the same thing in twenty nineteen's The Last Jedi, which 626 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 2: of course was a terrible disaster of a film all 627 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 2: by itself. I'm sorry, twenty seventeen's twenty seventeen's The Last Jedi. 628 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 2: There we go there, Rian Johnson one the middle of 629 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 2: the trilogy, because of course Carrie Fisher had already deceased, 630 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 2: and they brought back her digital corpse to puppet. 631 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: That just not. 632 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 2: Unless the actor is giving explicit permission for their image 633 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 2: and likeness to be used in that way. I think 634 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 2: you should let these individuals rest, let them get peace, 635 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 2: and find somebody else to shill your intellectual property. 636 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: That physic Yeah, is it that hard? That bad? You 637 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: can't find a new one, you know? 638 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 2: You you could always find a new sales rep. You know, 639 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 2: let somebody else be the new stan Lee, And of 640 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 2: course you're never going to replace somebody like that, which 641 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 2: I guess is why they want to co opt the corpse. 642 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 3: Well, and this is one of the big reasons why 643 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 3: they had that lock out. The writer's lockout was because 644 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 3: AI was being not introduced as it's going to replace 645 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 3: the extras, it's going to replace all this other stuff. 646 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 3: So workers, we're now striking because they didn't want AI 647 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 3: to take over. I asked you a question, when will 648 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 3: we have movies that are just all AI, and they say, 649 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 3: screw the actors. 650 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 2: Well, we've already kind of got that, not in any 651 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 2: mainstream capacity. But of course people are using this technology 652 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 2: and they're posting short videos online and I gotta be honest, 653 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 2: some of them are pretty entertaining. But you know, as 654 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 2: far as a mainstream film breaking through, I don't see 655 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 2: that in the immediate horizon. 656 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: A Hollywood's not going to let that happen. 657 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 2: Because they understand that, you know, there goes their gravy 658 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 2: train if they were ever to lose that. But also, 659 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 2: when you take away the human element, when you take 660 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 2: away the human touch, I think you lose an essence 661 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 2: of the craft. 662 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: I think it's very fair. 663 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 3: I think people people still are now, our ears are 664 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 3: a little perked up to AI, and I think we 665 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 3: appreciate the human to human experience. 666 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: Yes, because it can't be replicated. 667 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 2: You know, they can copy human, but they can never 668 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 2: replace a human. Thanks for listening to ninety three A 669 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 2: wib C, Ethan Hatcher and Jerry Lopez filling in. Stay 670 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 2: tuned because hour two we've got a heck of a 671 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 2: show coming up for you. Starting the hour with scary, 672 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 2: shadowy fundraising forces behind the scenes. It's not just George 673 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,280 Speaker 2: Soros anymore. We'll tell you more about that coming up next. 674 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 8: Older and Moses