WEBVTT - Mac & Bone Show - Matt Schick Interview  

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Schick, ESPN. And I love listening to him and,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Roddy Jones. They do a good job, too, Boney,

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<v Speaker 1>on the College Sports Radio as well. And he joins

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<v Speaker 1>us here on the Mac and Bone Show. Matt Schick,

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<v Speaker 1>proud Charlotte resident as well. Matt, do your young ones

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<v Speaker 1>like the Hornets at all? Have y'all got into Hornets

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<v Speaker 1>basketball in Charlotte?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, we're all in. And it might've been because, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>their daddy put their Christmas budget on them making the

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<v Speaker 2>playoffs on a bet last year.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we were, yeah, we were, we were, we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't hedge. So they, you know, it wasn't a Merry Christmas,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, I was talking to my oldest last night.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, yeah, it was a good win. He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>They're just not as exciting. I said, you know what?

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<v Speaker 3>Without LaMelo, you're not going to be as exciting, but

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<v Speaker 3>you'd be a little more dependable, a.

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<v Speaker 2>Little more disciplined, maybe a little more balanced and predictable.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go. That's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe you lose some entertainment play, but gain some stability.

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<v Speaker 3>It's fun to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do I think? And you got to also point

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<v Speaker 1>out Kobe and Khan not there yet. You know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to obviously change that offense. But that's good, Dad.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good parenting right there. How many dads in Charlotte

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<v Speaker 1>do y'all think are telling their kids that are so

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<v Speaker 1>upset that the fun lamello's not there? I'm telling you

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<v Speaker 1>right now, though, they're going to protect the basketball. They're

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<v Speaker 1>going to take better shots, son.

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<v Speaker 3>Like boring.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. Exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>Matt, the way it's playing out right now in the

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<v Speaker 4>college football world with the SEC beating the heck out

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<v Speaker 4>of each other, the Big Ten is now we're trying

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<v Speaker 4>to figure out how many national title contenders they have

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<v Speaker 4>with the Julian Sane injury. How much right now does

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<v Speaker 4>Miami have a chance to to win the national title

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<v Speaker 4>out of the ACC?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they're going to be the lone representative unless there's

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<v Speaker 2>an upset in the ACC championship game. So that's what

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<v Speaker 2>that feels like right now. But I think they've got

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<v Speaker 2>enough offensively. I think the Florida State game, you kind

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<v Speaker 2>of throw some of that out the window because of

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<v Speaker 2>the rivalry. You know, this is a team that will

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<v Speaker 2>finish at least 11-1 and have a great shot at

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<v Speaker 2>being the number one overall seed when they win the

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<v Speaker 2>ACC championship. So, you know, we start the season going,

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<v Speaker 2>how many teams can win?

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<v Speaker 3>And, ah, maybe six, seven, eight, nine.

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<v Speaker 2>You could probably go like 13 or 14 deep right

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<v Speaker 2>now with how much parity there is in college football,

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<v Speaker 2>which might be one of the benefits once we get

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<v Speaker 2>to that 2014 playoff.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt, let me follow up with what you said there first, though.

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<v Speaker 1>You said pretty confidently, hey, Miami's going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>only ACC team in the playoff. And listen, speaking of betting, wagering,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't bet against you, but I am curious. We

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of Deacons fans that are loving this

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<v Speaker 1>football team, and they seem to get better every week.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that Cal spot, we thought that was a scary

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<v Speaker 1>spot for them. Late night at Cal, they went up

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<v Speaker 1>there and jumped up 34-0.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, could you see them getting in the mix? I

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<v Speaker 1>guess the problem is if they lose to Miami, even

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<v Speaker 1>if it's a field goal game and they have beat everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>but Miami, I guess there's not enough meat on the

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<v Speaker 1>bone in terms of who they beat though.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that the problem?

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<v Speaker 2>There's not enough. There's not enough meat on the bone,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's also about the equity that they have not

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<v Speaker 2>built up over the last few years. They're not a brand.

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<v Speaker 2>You look at the wake forest helmet. There's nothing sexy

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<v Speaker 2>about the, about the program. And there, yeah, they won

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<v Speaker 2>nine games last year, but they, you think about what

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<v Speaker 2>it takes to move up in this world. Like Vanderbilt

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<v Speaker 2>went 10-2 last year. They weren't getting in at 10-2

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<v Speaker 2>because they don't have a Longhorn sticker on the helmet.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you look at Wake Forest, I called their

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<v Speaker 2>opener against Akron. I thought they had a ton of talent.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't think they'd be where they are right now.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's a ton to like about this. They'll go

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<v Speaker 2>to SMU next month, and that game will likely be

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<v Speaker 2>a playoff elimination game. The question is, in order to

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<v Speaker 2>get into the playoff, you're going to have to get

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<v Speaker 2>the AQ, which means you're going to have to likely

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<v Speaker 2>beat Miami. And they hung with Miami. The good news

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<v Speaker 2>is they're not going to be scared of them if

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<v Speaker 2>they play them. I think Jake Dickard is probably the best,

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<v Speaker 2>probably outside the top big names, the best coach in

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<v Speaker 2>the country in terms of what he does, getting less

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<v Speaker 2>with more. And I hate to say it for Wake fans,

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<v Speaker 2>but I can't wait to see if he gets an

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity to do more with more.

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<v Speaker 4>Matt, the never-ending rollercoaster ride for the Gamecocks enters an

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<v Speaker 4>upswing week against Tennessee at home this week. Tennessee off

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<v Speaker 4>the big win at home against Bama. When you look

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<v Speaker 4>at this Gamecocks team, and this might be the hardest

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<v Speaker 4>question ever, what are you expecting here the rest.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the way?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it more of what we saw early, or are

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<v Speaker 4>they starting to turn the corner where they can have

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<v Speaker 4>a pretty good season here?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the good news is outside of their game with Georgia,

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<v Speaker 2>their toughest part of their schedule is behind them, and

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<v Speaker 2>thankfully they get Tennessee at home. But if you look

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<v Speaker 2>at what's happened in the SEC, for some reason they

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<v Speaker 2>can't handle tough games and then winning another game after that.

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky's the only one that's done that. They won three

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<v Speaker 2>consecutive challenging games, including last week at Oklahoma, if you

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<v Speaker 2>want to call that challenging. But I look at this

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<v Speaker 2>one with South Carolina– off of the bye, taking on Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 3>With an emotional win. Now they have to go to Columbia.

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<v Speaker 2>The SEC wheel of death tells me that South Carolina

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<v Speaker 2>is going to win this game. They certainly have enough talent.

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<v Speaker 2>We saw that at Gainesville. And then you'll go to Oklahoma,

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<v Speaker 2>which is dead man walking. You'll host Texas A &amp; M,

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<v Speaker 2>which doesn't know how to play football anymore. You'll go

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<v Speaker 2>to Arkansas, which will punt on fourth down at midfield.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you host Georgia. So by the time you

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<v Speaker 2>get to the last couple of games, you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>have an opportunity to make some noise. No, they're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to make the playoff, but they have a good

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity to get to eight wins, which after their start

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<v Speaker 2>would be admirable.

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<v Speaker 4>A Fox show that only lasts like one episode because

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<v Speaker 4>they realize that it's not a good thing.

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<v Speaker 3>The pilot didn't get picked up.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Schick.

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<v Speaker 4>Ken Jeong is one of the guest judges.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>Clearly.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Schick with us, ESPN, College Sports Radio, hanging out

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<v Speaker 1>with us, talking college football. You mentioned the wheel of death, right?

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<v Speaker 1>And we said the same thing yesterday. We have people

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<v Speaker 1>texting in about it right now. It just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>feels like, okay, Tennessee had the big win. South Carolina's

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<v Speaker 1>winning this game and they were made favorites in Vegas

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<v Speaker 1>as well. One game where I think one team I

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<v Speaker 1>think could buck the trend is Ole Miss against Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a wheel of death would say, oh, Texas

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<v Speaker 1>is going to bounce back. And Ole Miss has had

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<v Speaker 1>too much prosperity with the two blowout wins. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think Ole Miss is legit and they can fight the

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<v Speaker 1>wheel of death. What do you think about that?

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're the second best team in the SEC.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're kind of waving their hands going, remember

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<v Speaker 2>us guys? Remember we're the team that took down LSU?

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<v Speaker 3>And then, yeah, I got blasted the next week against Florida.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's what's happening to everybody after they get big wins. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they outscored Vanderbilt and Missouri 83-20 in their

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<v Speaker 2>next two games. They've beaten LSU. That win over Missouri

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<v Speaker 2>is going to carry a lot of weight. They're averaging

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<v Speaker 2>38 points a game. Defensively, stopping the run, those are

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<v Speaker 2>going to be potential questions. But I think you're getting

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<v Speaker 2>Texas at the perfect time. I mean, they're splitting the

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<v Speaker 2>first-team reps between Arch Manning and K.J.

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<v Speaker 3>Lacy.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't know what they're doing offensively. They can't run

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<v Speaker 2>the football. They haven't been able to run the football

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<v Speaker 2>since they joined the SEC. And so if you're an

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<v Speaker 2>Ole Miss fan, I think you're liking the way this

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<v Speaker 2>shapes up.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got Auburn after that.

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<v Speaker 2>Um, you've got Georgia, which would have title game implications.

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<v Speaker 2>You could probably afford to lose that one, but then

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<v Speaker 2>you're at Oklahoma home against Mississippi state. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 2>is shaping up to be a 10 and two playoff team,

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<v Speaker 2>which I did not anticipate going in.

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<v Speaker 4>What are your thoughts on the 2014 playoff in the

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<v Speaker 4>future and the, the impact that'll have on the regular season,

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<v Speaker 4>which has been the, the big debate in the sport

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<v Speaker 4>this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's no question that when you expand to 24,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to have some games that maybe don't have

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<v Speaker 2>the do-or-die mentality. Oh, if we lose this second game,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to be out. But I think what we

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<v Speaker 2>saw with five of the top seven teams losing is

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<v Speaker 2>that you're going to just cast a wider net for

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<v Speaker 2>significant games for more programs.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we.

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<v Speaker 2>we get into this thing about there's haves and have-nots,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we have an opportunity here for more teams

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<v Speaker 2>to gain access to the championship, and we complain that

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<v Speaker 2>too many teams have a chance. I just think we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to have to expand our horizons a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>about what's acceptable as a successful season. And when we

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<v Speaker 2>get to this point of going 8-4, that's not acceptable,

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<v Speaker 2>and making the playoffs not acceptable, that's a problem that

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of programs, probably 85% of college football programs,

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<v Speaker 2>would love to have in terms of playing for the

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<v Speaker 2>national title. And I think the thing that I say

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<v Speaker 2>to all of those that are skeptics, and I, again,

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<v Speaker 2>would I rather stay at 12? Yes, but I'm starting

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<v Speaker 2>to buy into 24. One of the reasons guys is

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<v Speaker 2>we only play 12 games. You know, we could talk

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<v Speaker 2>about all the stakes that might get lost, but we

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<v Speaker 2>only play a three month long regular season. This isn't

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<v Speaker 2>five months of 30 plus games in college basketball. We're

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<v Speaker 2>only playing 12. People still show up to the games.

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<v Speaker 2>And frankly, a team like South Carolina would still have hope,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a bunch of teams would at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think the illusion of hope in a sport

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<v Speaker 2>where it takes a ton of investment to be relevant,

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<v Speaker 2>I think is important, especially with bowl games going away.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, real quick. We got like a minute and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you're about done talking with us, Matt, at

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<v Speaker 1>this point too.

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<v Speaker 4>Hanging the fight, Matt.

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<v Speaker 1>The heels. Like I got, we're bouncing all around. I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta talk about the heels bill belichick's got him at

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<v Speaker 1>four and two there's seven point favorites or so against

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<v Speaker 1>syracuse saturday night they could get to five and two

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<v Speaker 1>like we were all over him for a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>good reasons there's some coaching up going on there's some

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<v Speaker 1>progress right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's nothing flashy about them, but they're becoming increasingly respectable,

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<v Speaker 2>which is, I think, more than you could say from

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<v Speaker 2>last season. It's not just they're winning, it's how they're winning.

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<v Speaker 2>They're finding ways to close out tight games, something that

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<v Speaker 2>was missing a year ago. I mean, you surrender a

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<v Speaker 2>big lead against Duke, but you hold on to win that.

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<v Speaker 2>So you do wonder if it's just... modest improvement from

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<v Speaker 2>a low starting point from last year. But if you're

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<v Speaker 2>a North Carolina fan, I think you're kind of in

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<v Speaker 2>a glass case of emotion here because I thought you

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<v Speaker 2>were going to be done with this whole thing after

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<v Speaker 2>this year. But maybe Bill Belichick is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>an answer enough to keep you relevant for the next

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years. I don't know the answer to that,

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<v Speaker 2>but you can't argue with the fact they've gotten better.

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<v Speaker 2>And perhaps he's one you know, half dozen Superbowls for

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<v Speaker 2>a reason.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Matt, you are the man. Somebody texted in,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was her guy, bagel guy and said,

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<v Speaker 1>Matt strikes me as a guy that has a pair

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<v Speaker 1>of moose antlers that he wears to Hornets games.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, but I was thinking of this idea, guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe I'll bounce this off you.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that Charlotte Orange should sell moose antler antennas

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<v Speaker 2>for Channel 64. I don't know if you guys have

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<v Speaker 2>thought about that, but I think that would be a

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<v Speaker 2>really good idea.

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<v Speaker 4>That is insane that you and I had the same idea.

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<v Speaker 1>For a second, I was going to be so excited

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<v Speaker 1>about it that you and him had the same idea,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I realized what just happened there.

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<v Speaker 4>Am I being mocked?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll figure it out later.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Matt, be good, brother.

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<v Speaker 2>Take it easy, man.