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Speaker 1: You're listening to the best of the Fan Morning Show

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Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one oh seven five the Fan.

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Speaker 2: Good Morning, Happy Tuesday. Welcome into the Fan Morning Show,

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Speaker 2: KBJB Jeff Fan Mark taikedon, I guess we'd call you doctor,

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Speaker 2: right MD? Anybody ever pay that one by?

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Speaker 3: He'd like to sure there's no degree on my door.

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Speaker 3: You want some medical advice, though, doctor of nonsense? I

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Speaker 3: like that and say put some dirt on it. Get

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Speaker 3: back out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh. Text line is open at two three nine,

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Speaker 2: ten seventy and the Fan text Line. Mark got in

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Speaker 2: early this morning and Kevin, he said, regardless of who's

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Speaker 2: name the starting quarterback, by week.

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Speaker 4: Three or four, everyone's gonna want the other guy.

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Speaker 2: With the starter when it turns out to be, uh,

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Speaker 2: not so great. That's how it's always been, just his

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Speaker 2: two cents. Probably not the all, but off the Mark,

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Speaker 2: I would imagine.

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Speaker 4: Better chance the Colts make the AFC title game or

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Speaker 4: the week one starter starts all seventeen games for the Colts.

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Speaker 5: The ladder. Yeah, I think this is the latter.

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Speaker 2: You're saying no chance is what you're saying.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they have no chance to make the AMFC Championship,

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Speaker 6: So I would go with like little to no chance

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Speaker 6: over zero chance. You're positive this so if you're able

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Speaker 6: to win the No, no, no, we're not doing that. Nah,

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Speaker 6: I'm not nothing to a positive? Have you seen those quarterbacks?

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Speaker 6: If you're able to win they have you seen this team?

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Speaker 6: They made the playoffs and four? You also think they

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Speaker 6: go to the AFC Championship? No zero chance.

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Speaker 4: How many starters even started all seventeen games last year

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Speaker 4: in the NFL? Do you think half?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was though it was a unique year. A

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Speaker 6: lot of guys got dinged up and missed some time.

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Speaker 4: You would probably go with the AFC title game, right?

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Speaker 4: Or would you go with the ladder there you think?

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Speaker 4: I think there's Jones or Anthony Richardson will start each

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Speaker 4: and every football game the Colts play this season.

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Speaker 2: I think there's zero chance that happens, which is why,

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Speaker 2: given the choice of those two, I'd probably the AFC

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Speaker 2: Championship game. But again to James point, I'm just reversing,

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Speaker 2: and there's little to no chance of one and zero chances.

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Speaker 4: Just got to win two playoff games?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's all you gotta do.

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Speaker 3: How long has that been it's the getting to the

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Speaker 3: playoffs that's been the issue.

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Speaker 4: Coach, Well, you're in the AFC South. Isn't that a

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Speaker 4: gift that keeps on giving?

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Speaker 3: Not for the cold Rock Osweiler?

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Speaker 7: Maybe?

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Speaker 2: And if C J.

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Speaker 4: Stroud gets hurt Davis Mills time, baby, Davis Mills, does.

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Speaker 2: That mean we're going to be a Bean at quarterback

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Speaker 2: at some point this year?

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Speaker 7: Maybe?

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Speaker 4: I do not think Jason Dean will get undertded.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna look and see what like if you put

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Speaker 3: if you picked the Colts to represent the AFC in

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Speaker 3: the in the championship game, like, what what odds are

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Speaker 2: But go ahead, I bet it's somewhere around I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: say probably like twelve plus twelve hundred, fourteen hundred something

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Speaker 2: like that. Ten million might be higher than that. We

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Speaker 2: were talking about the fact that during the checkdown a

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Speaker 2: moment ago, James Boyd the zab and Howard has been

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Speaker 2: signed by Chris Ballard. And not only do you have

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Speaker 2: a very interesting situation.

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Speaker 6: Let's put Yeah, this is all allegedly according to court documents,

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Speaker 6: in February of court filing. And I'll just read what's

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Speaker 6: in our story, my story. The voy quote voluntarily dismissed

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Speaker 6: with prejudice the claims he has heard against Howard. So

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Speaker 6: But the plaintiff's lawsuit is still pending, so I believe

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Speaker 6: this isn't resolved fully just yet.

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Speaker 5: But it's certainly some point, right I'm sorry, what.

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Speaker 2: So it's reports of that happen happening at this point right.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's all in court document, so's I guess it's

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Speaker 6: more valid than a report like this is all in

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Speaker 6: you know, the public domain, and he had to go

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Speaker 5: To a certain degree. They had to go through a

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Speaker 6: So anyways, yeah, I reached out to the Colts because

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Speaker 6: I was like, this is going to go on my story.

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Speaker 5: It has to go in the story. And here's what

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Speaker 6: And keep in mind, this is someone who said, you know,

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Speaker 6: obviously they want them to be good members of the

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Speaker 6: community and society. And he said, we understand the discussion

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Speaker 6: regarding Xavian. We've done our research on this situation. We

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Speaker 6: talked thoroughly with him. We expect Xaviing to be professional

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Speaker 6: on and off the field. He understands the opportunity he

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Speaker 6: has here. A significant part of this signing is trust,

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Speaker 6: and we expect him to build, build on and honor

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Speaker 6: that trust. So that is the latest on that. There

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Speaker 6: are some other stuff in his past as well. I

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Speaker 6: those cases were actually dismissed. But nevertheless, it is certainly

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Speaker 6: something to you know, ask about.

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Speaker 5: And I think, you know.

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Speaker 6: Regardless of what happens with the quarterback situation, at some point,

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Speaker 6: it is still worth asking Shane Steichen or asking Xavion

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Speaker 6: Howard himself, like, what is the latest and you know,

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Speaker 6: what can you really say about this matter?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I file that one under the file of there's

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Speaker 2: some guys and whether it's the NFL, NBA, Major League Baseball, hockey, whatever,

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Speaker 2: there are alreadys, just some guys that there's just always

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Speaker 2: something going on. It seems like there's every year or

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Speaker 2: something going on that's just doesn't need to be there,

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Speaker 2: and even though they don't, maybe those things get dismissed

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Speaker 2: or whatever happens to him. It just feels like there

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he does seem like one that's popped up on

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Speaker 4: the old ESPN ticker quite a bit here over the

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Speaker 4: last couple of years. You know, it sounded like judging

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Speaker 4: by what lou Ann Room said yesterday. Again, for those

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Speaker 4: that are unfamiliar with Howard's full background, he began with

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Speaker 4: you know, right around twenty nineteen, twenty twenty. But like

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Speaker 4: it is, you know, this would be quite the resurrection project,

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Speaker 4: Exaving Howard coming here and being whatever top flight corner

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Speaker 4: for you. I mean, when James rattled off some of

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Speaker 4: it's all pro.

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Speaker 6: Nature twenty twenty led leading the interceptions, how long ago

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Speaker 4: And in corner years, that's like dog USh, Yeah, you

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Speaker 4: know it's the Colts are really banking on something I'd

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Speaker 4: say rather unprecedented. When you look at their three corners,

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Speaker 4: assuming Xaving Howard is going to be one of the starters.

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Speaker 4: I mean him and Kenny Moore and Shavarious Ward, they

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Speaker 4: all have nearly one hundreds arts in the league. That's

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Speaker 4: a lot. And you know, I think last year in

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Speaker 4: I don't want to act like maybe it's like a

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Speaker 4: the red flag starts to get waived. But it's kind

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Speaker 4: of like that at corner, and again, Xavier Howard didn't

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Speaker 4: of flipped that on the other side of saying, well,

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Speaker 4: you know, that means he's you know, maybe could have

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Speaker 4: some fresh legs, So we'll see. They worked him out.

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Speaker 4: They clearly were good with it, but James Boyd judging.

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Speaker 4: But by what Loui Anarumo said yesterday, I don't see

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Speaker 4: this as a Hey, we'll see where he's at and

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Speaker 4: maybe he'll make the team next Tuesday. I got the

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Speaker 4: impression that when they play the Miami Dolphins, his old team, ironically,

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Speaker 4: two weeks from Sunday, Xaming Howard's going to be playing

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Speaker 4: a lot of snaps.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I honestly think that he could be in the

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Speaker 6: running to start that game. Considering the injury they've had

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Speaker 6: I would think he's in a slot Javerious Wards on

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Speaker 6: the other outside spot. And those are your three cornerbacks, yep.

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Speaker 2: Talk to me about the injuries to the other two guys.

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Speaker 2: At this point, in time. Are we talking about lengthy absences?

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Speaker 2: Are we talking what are we talking about? Do we know?

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Speaker 5: No, we don't know.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I can give it to you straight at

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Speaker 6: this Jeff, it's been a lengthy absence for Juju, Brentson,

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Speaker 6: Jalen Jones because they just haven't played, and I don't

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Speaker 6: know Kevin has been at least two or three.

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Speaker 5: Weeks, if no longer at this point.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So from that standpoint, that is my own official

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Speaker 6: update or unofficial update. But as far as the coaching staff, no,

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Speaker 6: we haven't heard anything from Shane Styken beyond their progressing

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Speaker 6: and that's all he's really offered. And honestly, that's usually

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Speaker 6: the case with Shane. I mean, I don't know if

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Speaker 6: that's a and I guess most coaches kind of stay

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Speaker 6: he's one who he very He offers very little, to

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Speaker 6: be honest with you, And so yeah, I will ask

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Speaker 6: again today, perhaps, you know, assuming I'll be honest with

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Speaker 6: those listening, if there's a quarterback decision today, every question

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Speaker 6: for the twenty minutes that Shane Stychen is up there

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Speaker 6: will be about the quarterbacks, and then everything else will

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Speaker 6: believe at some point this week we'll be able to

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Speaker 6: follow up and ask about some of these injuries and

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Speaker 6: see where guys are, because it is getting a bit

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Speaker 6: to that point where you wonder, Okay, where's Jalen Jones

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Speaker 6: and his recovery, where is Juju Brentson his recovery? And

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Speaker 6: can these guys be available come week one or be

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Speaker 6: close to being available come week one?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for example, we talked about it earlier. I posted

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Speaker 4: a fifty three men roster projection up on our website. Again,

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Speaker 4: roster cuts a week from today. I kept seven corners.

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Speaker 4: There's no way I've ever done this sexercise before and

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Speaker 4: kept seven cornerbacks, but I kept seven because of injury insurance.

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Speaker 4: Jones and Brent's being two of the guys that you

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Speaker 4: would think about with that. So again, clarity the Colts internally,

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Speaker 4: they're gonna need some clarity on some of these injured guys.

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Speaker 4: And again, when we're out of practice today, do any

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Speaker 4: missed about a week plus, Quity Pay has missed a

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Speaker 2: AJ says, talking about Chris Ballard, this is the guy

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Speaker 5: And that's just the reality of the business in my opinion.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is very true. This is from Adam in Wykestown.

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Speaker 2: Let's be honest, we all want Tyler Warren to be

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Speaker 4: A former high school quarterback. Correct, he can do anything

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Speaker 4: Mike said that, Uh, I want to make sure I

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Speaker 4: What happens in months?

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Speaker 5: And yeah, God bless him.

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Speaker 4: Prostate correct, yes advice? So needs a doctor when you

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Speaker 4: Well, it's an audience that that we have out here.

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Speaker 8: I would lean Anthony Richardson just because he has to

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Speaker 2: That is one interesting facet of all this. Maybe Shane

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so like this, this isn't in this situation where.

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Speaker 6: And this wasn't Jim Mersey saying, oh this is my guy.

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Speaker 6: No matter what you say, you advocated for that. You

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Speaker 6: went to Chris Ballard and Jim Mersay and said when

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Speaker 6: they you know a broached the topic, you said, I

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Speaker 6: believe I can make this guy into an NFL quarterback

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Speaker 6: and into a winner, and we haven't seen that. So

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Speaker 6: I understand the subpreservation kicks in you want to win games,

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Speaker 6: but I think it would be a bit you know,

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Speaker 6: I don't think this ingenious is the right word, but

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Speaker 6: it would be a bit you know, not real in

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Speaker 6: my opinion, if you sit up there and say, oh, well,

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Speaker 6: this guy gets the best chance to win, you are

451
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Speaker 6: the reason Anthony was is here in the first place,

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Speaker 6: A big reason why.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you are part of the misvaluation, misdevelopment.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we've talked about it. Whitially Anthony got drafted. We

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Speaker 6: all were saying, does he even end up here if

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Speaker 6: Shane isn't the coach, And at the time I was

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Speaker 6: thinking no, no, because at the time, Shane was youed

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Speaker 6: as this guy who could develop quarterbacks or help quarterbacks grow.

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Speaker 6: I know he's worked with Jealen Hurts obviously most recently

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Speaker 6: before Anthony, and then it before that.

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Speaker 5: I think it was justin Herbert.

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Speaker 4: So that's the conversation I think he has to have, Like,

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Speaker 4: just to boil it down to the preseason, we've seen

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Speaker 4: these two guys play in Colt's uniforms. The worst play

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Speaker 4: from Richardson was a sack that could have been a

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Speaker 4: strip sack knocked him out of the game. Ten guys

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Speaker 4: on offense were all in the same page he was not.

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Speaker 4: The worst play for Jones is probably what the Tyler

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Speaker 4: Warren miss on Saturday, Probably where the guys open and

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Speaker 4: he misses. In the coach's eyes, what's more egregious?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, probably certainly the missing your own assignment to the

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Speaker 2: answer I think Jackson's where this is.

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Speaker 4: Yes, there are so many signs to Danie Lotski's point

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Speaker 4: that yes, you commit to this guy fourth overall pick,

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Speaker 4: and yes, again I think they should go with Richardson.

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Speaker 4: But these head coaches live in a much different bubble

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Speaker 4: of Hey, who can I trust? Who is a little

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Speaker 4: bit more controllable? It's less or two evils, let me

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Speaker 4: be very clear. But if that is the predominant question

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Speaker 4: in Shane steiken'syey, and I think Daniel Jones is a

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Speaker 4: lot realer.

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Speaker 2: We may find out later on today when Shane Styken

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Speaker 2: meets with the media around eleven o'clock or so. Coming

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Speaker 2: up next, we'll check in on a big event that

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Speaker 2: happened over the weekend here in Indianapolis, what it means

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Speaker 2: for the future, and also we've got the Tour Championship

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Speaker 2: coming up. We'll talk a little bit about that as

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Speaker 2: we continue next on ninety three five and one O

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Speaker 2: seven five Russian headlong Endo. The middle of the week,

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Speaker 2: It's Tuesday here at ninety three five one or something

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Speaker 2: by the fan Tuesday everywhere as a matter of fact,

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Speaker 2: And uh, Kevin Bowen on my left, James Boyd to

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Speaker 2: my right. Across the way, it's Mark Dyton and on

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Speaker 2: the Payless Liquers hotline right now. One of our favorites,

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Speaker 2: Indiana's own Indianapolis has owned Will Haskett, who is a

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Speaker 2: broadcast or an author. He focuses on golf. He focuses

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Speaker 2: on lots of sports as well. And good morning, Well,

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Speaker 2: happy Tuesday.

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Speaker 7: It's not a major's week, and I'm a guest on

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Speaker 7: the show.

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Speaker 1: Something good must have happened. Well, well, how are we happy?

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Speaker 1: Happy Quarterback Decision Day. I don't know what the book

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Speaker 1: makers have on it, but I know it's gonna make

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Speaker 1: for good sports talk radio.

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Speaker 2: So who do you like?

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Speaker 1: It depends on what role I'm in. If I'm a

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Speaker 1: coach and my job is on the line, Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 1: if I'm trying to make the best potential franchise move

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Speaker 1: moving forward. It's Richardson, but let's be honest, it's it's

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Speaker 1: just kind of a a turd burger, right, Like you're

511
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Speaker 1: just going to sort of stuck with whatever you're going

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Speaker 1: to have the rest of.

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Speaker 7: The year burger.

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Speaker 4: I think I've almost had one of those of the

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Speaker 4: sausage fest the other night when I reached into the old

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Speaker 4: toilet there.

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Speaker 2: Oh that was well said by well he must do

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Speaker 2: this for let me work that into the next column there.

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Speaker 4: Well, I know you are a busy man this morning

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Speaker 4: doing some great things that I'm jealous of, so.

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Speaker 2: We won't keep you long.

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Speaker 4: But you were an attendee on Sunday at the Live

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Speaker 4: Golf tournament up there at the Chatham Hills in Westfield,

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Speaker 4: and I thought you painted a really first off, but

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Speaker 4: that was a very accurate picture of the good the bad.

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Speaker 4: So if you don't mind for an audience that maybe

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Speaker 4: did not attend it, what did you like about it

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Speaker 4: and what did you not necessarily like about it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, let me preface it with how many

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Speaker 1: people saw me there and they were like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: you're an enemy territory, Like what are you doing purist, Like,

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Speaker 1: why are you here a sort of purist? Yeah, all

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Speaker 1: sort of tongue in cheek with everything. Obviously, you know,

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Speaker 1: most of my weeks out on the PGA tour. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think we've arrived at a place where moving forward.

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Speaker 4: Uh try again, go back where you were at the

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Speaker 4: start of this interview.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're reaching a point where I.

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Speaker 4: Don't know if the Saudis have your phone, of the

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Speaker 4: PGA tour has your phone, but your phone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're just reaching a point where I think there's

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Speaker 1: just so much you know, apathy to the fact that

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Speaker 1: there's not any progress moving forward, that everything is just

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Speaker 1: sort of existing. And and I'll preface this too, like

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Speaker 1: we know that Indianapolis and Central Indiana the sporting events better.

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Speaker 7: Than anywhere else.

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Speaker 1: So whatever is going to happen, I mean, it could

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Speaker 1: be an international cricket tournament. We're going to turn out

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Speaker 1: and it's going to be phenomenal. And so from an

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Speaker 1: event standpoint, you know, I met my expectations.

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Speaker 7: I knew it was going to be an event.

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Speaker 1: I knew it was going to be loud, I knew

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Speaker 1: it was going to be a party, And that's exactly

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Speaker 1: what you got when you went there, and I think

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Speaker 1: that everybody that attended from essentially Indiana standpoint.

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Speaker 7: Was thrilled with the activity level. It was great for kids.

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Speaker 1: I know that all the organizers, the city of Westfield

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Speaker 1: has rolled out the red carpet and they deserve a

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Speaker 1: ton of kudos for the sacrifices.

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Speaker 7: Made and the work done behind the scenes.

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Speaker 9: Everybody there just.

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Speaker 7: You know, did everything that they could, and I think.

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Speaker 1: They blew the expectations out of the water of Live

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Speaker 1: coming here because I think LIVE has really struggled in

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Speaker 1: a lot of other places of having sort of the

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Speaker 1: backbone and the support and the strength of an organizing

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Speaker 1: group like we have here in central Indiana, and so

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Speaker 1: I think that showed in the turnout.

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Speaker 7: It showed in the end.

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Speaker 2: But ah, we've got a bad cell phone today. He's

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Speaker 2: going to reset on that. But yeah, I think Kevin,

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Speaker 2: you would be the perfect guy to talk about this.

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Speaker 2: Are we get to the point where the differences between

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Speaker 2: Live and PGA for a lot of fans like they're

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Speaker 2: just apathetic towards the whole thing.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think Will was pointing out there pretty accurately.

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Speaker 4: I don't think anyone pays attention to Live unless it

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Speaker 4: shows up in your own market, and then we love

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Speaker 4: sports and people that attended it I think largely had

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Speaker 4: Will's I guess is in agreement with what Will said

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Speaker 4: about being very fan friendly and catering to younger kids.

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Speaker 4: But I mean, I am a sports fan. I or

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Speaker 4: a sports fan, and Friday was the first time I've

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Speaker 4: ever watched a live golf hole and I don't think

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Speaker 4: I'm like in the minority necessarily on that. I think

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Speaker 4: a lot of sports fans a struggle to find it

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Speaker 4: and be have ever thought about necessarily watching it, And

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Speaker 4: when you are watching it, I don't know if it

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Speaker 4: just doesn't come across in my opinion in the same

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Speaker 4: way I think team golf at times can just be

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Speaker 4: hair forced as well. Will, thank you for calling us back, continued,

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Speaker 4: because you were in a beautiful train of thought.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. No, I think I don't know where I cut out.

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Speaker 1: But again, the event was fantastic, and I think that

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Speaker 1: just from my standpoint of attending a lot of different

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Speaker 1: golf tournaments. Obviously each and every week the golf felt

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Speaker 1: secondary until the very end of the actual day.

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Speaker 7: And if you're there to.

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Speaker 1: Take your kids and you want to go to the

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Speaker 1: fan experience and you don't care.

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Speaker 7: About seeing a golf shot. And that was great. It

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Speaker 7: was a really good event.

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Speaker 1: It could have been any sporting event, I think surrounding

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Speaker 1: the entire property, and from an event standpoint, I think

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Speaker 1: it went off really well. They crammed a ton of

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Speaker 1: people in there. They set a domestic record for most

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Speaker 1: attendees at a United States Live event, and just like

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Speaker 1: the success they've had that Live has had in a

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Speaker 1: place like Australia, when you take something like this to

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Speaker 1: a place that's starved for a professional golf tournament, you're

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Speaker 1: going to have a lot of people show up.

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Speaker 7: And again, it was a really good hang.

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Speaker 1: The hang also, I realized that I could go forty

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Speaker 1: five minutes without seeing a golf shot, and then even

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Speaker 1: when I was around sort of the golf, it felt

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Speaker 1: like no one was really paying attention to the golf

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Speaker 1: at many places on the.

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Speaker 7: Actual golf course. And that's fine.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there are plenty of PGA Tour events where

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Speaker 1: thousands of people up every day and they have no

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Speaker 1: intention of actually paying attention to the golf. I think

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Speaker 1: the difference though, between the two of them is the

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Speaker 1: fact that it's they want you to be a part

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Speaker 1: of the golf tournament at some of those places, and

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Speaker 1: then a lot of the spots that I was around,

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Speaker 1: I thought on Sunday in the final round, until it

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Speaker 1: came down to the final hole and the final couple

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Speaker 1: of groups.

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Speaker 7: I don't think it really. I don't think anybody cared

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Speaker 7: if you were.

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Speaker 1: Paying attention to an actual golf tournament that's taking place,

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Speaker 1: and that just felt kind of odds to me.

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Speaker 6: Well, to follow up on that, you mentioned how you

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Speaker 6: know fun it was, I guess for children or people

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Speaker 6: with kids.

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Speaker 5: Can you elaborate that, elaborate on that a bit more?

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Speaker 5: Was it kind of like the cold.

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Speaker 6: City vibes we get out in Westfield for the cold

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Speaker 6: training camp was like a state fair? I guess what

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Speaker 6: things did you see that you thought, Okay, if you

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Speaker 6: got some young ones, this would be a nice activity

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Speaker 6: day for you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, James, I mean, I think the first and foremost

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Speaker 1: is there's just there's more noise, there's more energy, right,

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Speaker 1: so if your kids are running around and they're being

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Speaker 1: you know, they're running up and down a hill, it's

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Speaker 1: not like some weeks where you know you got to

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Speaker 1: try and you know, hone your children in and keep

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Speaker 1: them a little bit quiet because you had a golf

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Speaker 1: t it and then the fan village experience where they

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Speaker 1: had all of the team branded stuff, and that's a

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Speaker 1: separate conversation. I don't really know how the team thing

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Speaker 1: is going to last. Like getting this whole idea of

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Speaker 1: team concept up the ground, there's a business model behind it.

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Speaker 1: I understand what liv is trying to accomplish. I don't

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Speaker 1: really know. I from a golf standpoint, it was there

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Speaker 1: was really nothing to track the team event outside of

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Speaker 1: a little thing on the leaderboard. It is really hard.

659
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: They are forcing this team thing I think a little

660
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: bit strong. But from a brand standpoint, when you went

661
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: to the fan experience, you had all of these really cool,

662
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: colorful areas where you could hit a flop shot over

663
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: you know, a cutout of Phil Mickelson or a petti

664
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: goat from the Range Goats, which I gets watching travels

665
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: with actual goats that are in there. And I saw

666
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: so many families that they could just spend an hour

667
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: in there, and certain weeks in the PGA too are

668
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: They're a great fan build out and experiences and stuff

669
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: for kids, But this one to me really like it

670
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: just felt really fun, you know, and you could do

671
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: some things. So again, it was no different than going

672
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: to State Fair. Right like you got there's a petting zoo,

673
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: there were games, there were concessions with fried food for

674
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Speaker 1: your children. It just happened to be that this State

675
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: Fair experience was at a professional golf tournament instead of

676
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: down off of thirty eighth Street. So again I was

677
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: especially for a town like Westfield, for a suburb that

678
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: is just you know, full of families, I thought it

679
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: was great. And you know, we're back again next year

680
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: here in the city of Minneapolis hosting that event at

681
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: Chatham Hills.

682
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 7: Will they have.

683
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Speaker 1: Twenty thousand again every day next year? I think they

684
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: probably could, because again, if it was a novelty, if

685
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: it was let's show up and see what this actually was,

686
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: and you happen to take your kids out, then maybe

687
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: you'll go again next year because you had a good time,

688
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: and maybe it's not ninety five degrees outside like it was,

689
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: because I mean a lot of people suffered through a

690
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: really hot weekend for a couple of days to be

691
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: able to see the golf. But yeah, I thought it

692
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: was really really cool for families to be able to

693
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: experience that it makes it I think more of a cell,

694
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: especially there locally, because you have so many families that

695
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: are nearby.

696
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 4: Well, I want to leave you with this, thank you

697
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 4: for laying all that out there, and I know again

698
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 4: you've got far more important golf related items to do

699
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 4: on this Tuesday morning. Let's go here from a central

700
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 4: Indiana standpoint and take cricket stick out of it. We've

701
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 4: seen cricket Stick obviously hold some of the most marquee

702
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 4: events that you can hold live, obviously pumped a large

703
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 4: sum of money into Old Chatham to try and whatever

704
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 4: instill a championship vibe on a course that I think

705
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 4: to be fair, probably was not built to necessarily host

706
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 4: these sorts of events. It's you know, whatever Bridgewater two

707
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 4: point zero if you want to look at it from

708
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 4: a northern suburbs standpoint, If you could have some money

709
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 4: funded into a local course, let's just call whatever Indianapolis

710
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 4: and surrounding counties to host a championship type of tournament

711
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 4: pro golf. I guess to keep it broader, what courses

712
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 4: would come to mind again, not cricket Stick division, Yeah.

713
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: And I mean cricket Stick is I think hoping that

714
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: a BMW Championship returns there in the near future, that

715
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: you've got a US Senior Open coming up, so that,

716
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: i'll be is kind of the main hub when it

717
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: comes to prestigious I would say, even more legitimate type

718
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: of golf competition type places. And so that obviously being

719
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: off the table, you know, Sagamore was I think in

720
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: the running to almost have that live event. I think

721
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: that that from a country club standpoint, maybe offers a

722
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:18,719
Speaker 1: little bit more of a challenge. And look, it's been

723
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: a challenging summer from a turf management standpoint for everybody

724
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,959
Speaker 1: in central Indiana. You know, all the rain and all

725
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: the heat is really hard to make grass grow. The

726
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: good grass, I should say, the weed grass has no

727
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: problem with it, but the good grass. And you could

728
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: see how tax Chatham was over the course of the week.

729
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: There was a lot of white paint out there for

730
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: some ground under repair, which was too bad, and I

731
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: think it forced them to sort of set up the

732
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: course a little bit differently as well, because they had

733
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: to deal with so many of those stressed areas. But

734
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,959
Speaker 1: the answer your actual question, I mean, I mean, there

735
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: are so many places that if you give me an

736
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: unlimited budget. Like I'm always very loyal to a place

737
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: where I played for a long time, over at the

738
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: Fort on the East Side. I think if you pumped

739
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: a ton of money into that place and got it

740
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: in the shape that it could be that it's just

741
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: a world class piece of property. I don't know how

742
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: big of a test it would be from professional golf.

743
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: I think you'd see scoring about the same way.

744
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 7: But I like the routing it.

745
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: But I like the potential from an event hosting standpoint

746
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: out there look from a party standpoint this past week.

747
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: I kept saying to myself, I kept saying it last

748
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: week and again, kudos to the City of Westfield. They're

749
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: the ones that really took the you know, took the

750
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: bull by the horns here and said we're going to

751
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: run this thing. And I don't know the politics of

752
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: you know, I know sportscre was involved in some way

753
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: and all these other sorts of things. But if you

754
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,719
Speaker 1: truly want to make this a blow out event, and

755
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: you think that you can get more than twenty thousand

756
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: people there, which you can't do next year because they

757
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: were capped, you can't have more than twenty thousand people

758
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: around Chenne mills. There's just not space for them. This

759
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: was a perfect event for the Brickyard. And I think

760
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: that the Brickyard has you know, has certainly shown that

761
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: it can host big golf events. But if it's truly

762
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: about the event, if live is the F one of golf,

763
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: then go to where you've had.

764
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 7: An F one race.

765
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: Go where you can fit you know, fifty thousand people

766
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: if you're going to blow this sort of thing out.

767
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: So from a live golf standpoint, I think that would

768
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: be the no brainer. That's where you're looking to do

769
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: at an event like that, because it is more about

770
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: the event than it is about the golf. But yeah,

771
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: there are so many cool play I mean, I would

772
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: love to see those guys stretch this seventy seven hundred

773
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,919
Speaker 1: at Purgatory if you put a little bit of money

774
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: into that golf course to make it ready for a championship.

775
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: But there's so many things that go into that logistics.

776
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 7: How to get people.

777
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: There, where you're going to put hospitality, the footprint has

778
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: to be absolutely right. And I just keep thinking, if

779
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: this is more about the event than it is about

780
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: the golf, then there's no reason why you shouldn't have

781
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: it at the track.

782
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 2: I would love to see an event there will last

783
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,439
Speaker 2: thing before I go Tour Championship this weekend at east

784
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 2: Lake in Atlanta. Is there any stopping Scottie Shuffler from

785
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 2: anything at this point?

786
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,240
Speaker 7: Yeah? Fatigue.

787
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: I mean he's had to play high leverage golf now

788
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: for two weeks in a row in both Memphis and.

789
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 7: A steamy Baltimore.

790
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: I'll be on the call shout out on FJA to

791
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: a radio starting on Thursday. I think it's the only

792
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: thing that can get in his way. If he's had

793
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 1: to play so much, and the fact that they've adjusted

794
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: this year and everybody start at the same score, there's

795
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: no more adjusted strokes. He has no benefit whatsoever having

796
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: been the dominant player through the playoffs through this season.

797
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: So I think the one thing that could stop him

798
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: is just fatigue.

799
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 7: You know.

800
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's not doing a heavy wood load right

801
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: now of lead up to it and working out and practicing.

802
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: He's probably managing his energy as.

803
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 7: Best he can.

804
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,240
Speaker 1: But Rory took the first playoff event off and plays

805
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 1: really well at east Lake, and he hasn't had to

806
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: play high leverage golf the last couple of weeks, like

807
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: Scotty has and a few other players I think would

808
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: fit into that mold as well. So can somebody beat

809
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: him this week? Absolutely? If he's a favorite for a reason. Absolutely.

810
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: We haven't seen anybody play golf like this since Tiger Woods.

811
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 2: Always good to talk to you and hear your voice. Man,

812
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 2: you're the best.

813
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 7: Will thanks, guys.

814
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,720
Speaker 2: We've been talking about the Cults in their quarterback situation

815
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 2: all morning long. There's a possibility, maybe a strong possibility,

816
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 2: Kevin Bowen, that we get an answer on Anthony Richardson

817
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 2: or Daniel Jones later on today about eleven o'clock. I suppose,

818
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 2: and when we know, you guys will know as well.

819
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 2: There was an interesting unidentified text or question just a

820
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 2: moment ago, and Kevin, I think you answered it online.

821
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 2: But who makes the biggest jump this year for the Pacers?

822
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 2: Andrew Nemhart, Benedict Mathrin, Where Johnny Furfey you said Matherin baby,

823
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,439
Speaker 2: And that kind of echoes back to the last time

824
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 2: last week had a chance to talk to Rick Carlyle.

825
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 4: Does it not Well, I'm heavily biased and that so

826
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 4: I'm probably not the one to be an answering that.

827
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 5: Yeses you fan club leader.

828
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 4: You Furfee, I am fascinated by. You know, Rick did

829
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 4: bring him up in an answer about Jarris Walker just

830
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 4: out of the blue. Really he went to Furfee, and

831
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 4: you know, again, what do those minutes look like with

832
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 4: the second unit? And does Jaris Walker send more of

833
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 4: the lead guy with the second unit? And obviously Nemhard

834
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 4: is going to be asked to do a ton and

835
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 4: as Rick said to us, you know, there's a level

836
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 4: of protecting Andrew Nemhard that they're gonna have to walk

837
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 4: kind of a fine balance with. You know, when you

838
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 4: played Atlanta last year, when you played Memphis last year,

839
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 4: when you played the Knicks last year, you said to

840
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 4: Andrew Emhard, go guard Jalen Brunson, go guard Job Morant,

841
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 4: go guard Trey Young. You can't say that to him

842
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 4: with handling point guard duties. I mean, they're way too

843
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 4: much long, yeah, on his plate to do that. So

844
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 4: I think the balance for will be will be difficult.

845
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 2: That was Jake, by the way. He texted back and

846
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 2: said that Jenny Ferviata, you know, it's obviously not regular season,

847
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 2: but I thought he had a really strong summer league

848
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 2: as well, and a guy.

849
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 6: That was gonna say, Dunk of the Year in Summer League,

850
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 6: and I actually think that that could be in the

851
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 6: running for Dunk of the year. That was amazing. He's

852
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 6: somebody that's intriguing. Obviously, when you have size like that

853
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 6: shooting ability, those are the guys who make a lot

854
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 6: of money in the NBA and can be very good role.

855
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 5: Players for you.

856
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 6: So we'll see if an opportunity arises for him to

857
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 6: kind of crack into that rotation and get some more reps.

858
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,240
Speaker 6: But I think that he's training in the right direction

859
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 6: for sure.

860
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a lot of fun to watch and

861
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,240
Speaker 2: we'll be interesting to see how all those guard minutes

862
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 2: are are appropriated and who gets what and how long

863
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 2: you see them hart Is he going to be the

864
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 2: full time point guard? Did they in the fourth quarter?

865
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 2: Did they switch him over to the other team's best

866
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 2: offensive player? What do they do? Is as the game

867
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 2: goes along?

868
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 4: And what a time to be alive here in our

869
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 4: state with college football. Do you guys see yes, fay

870
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 4: Ohio State nam their starter. I did see this arch

871
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 4: Manning Julian saying trans from Bama. That's week one, so

872
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 4: week from Saturday one versus two that's what we're going

873
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 4: to get. And here in our state mentioned this earlier.

874
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 4: Indiana football has a quarterback that has the potential projected

875
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 4: how everyone to look at it to go in round

876
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 4: one of the NFL draft Produce quarterback started for them,

877
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 4: transferred to North Carolina and now was back in West

878
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 4: Lafayette as the lead quarterback. Which welcome to college football

879
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five. And Notre Dame has a quarterback battle

880
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 4: that it's currently playing out with two dudes that have

881
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 4: played four snaps in their entire careers. It seems so

882
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 4: backward to me that like that is how the three

883
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 4: universities big universities in our state have their quarterback battles.

884
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 4: Indiana Football's got the NFL draft prospect, Purdue, the cradle

885
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 4: of quarterback, has got the one that was there then

886
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 4: transferred now he's back. And Notre Dame. In today's world,

887
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 4: how many quarterback battles do you have in college football

888
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 4: at a prominent place like Notre Dame playing out with

889
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 4: no transfer portal guy Notre Dame Don Riley Leonard was done.

890
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 4: Jack comes because they were Sam Hartman, who didn't look

891
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 4: very good last night, by the way, like Notre Dame

892
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 4: has done.

893
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 5: A lot of these, You mean, like on the field wise.

894
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 2: No, no, he did not look good.

895
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 4: He's got great hair, he's very handsome man. Yeah, but no,

896
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 4: he did not look very good. But yeah, you know

897
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 4: it's bad when the only snaps those Notre Dame quarterbacks

898
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 4: have played CJ. Carr and Kenny Minchi is against Perdue.

899
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 4: And we watched Perdue play football last year. They would

900
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 4: have lost to Attica.

901
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll have minsche Mania this.

902
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 4: Year, Kenny Minchi or CJ.

903
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 2: Carr.

904
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 7: The debate.

905
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 4: There so very interesting season here in our state when

906
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 4: it comes to college football in regards to these three teams.

907
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 2: So I said, we could have gone a couple of

908
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 2: years ago from minshew Mania to minche Mania.

909
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 4: You ready, it was all this hype about CJ. Carr

910
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 4: in South Bend, the grandson of Lloyd Carr for those

911
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 4: curious things. Uh and yeah, Bernando Mendez has got his

912
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 4: little brother backing them up in Bloomington, right.

913
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think you gotta tell a little brother

914
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 6: You're never getting this job as long as I'm here, Sorry.

915
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,439
Speaker 4: James, your guy. Dan Brugler on Fernando Mendoza, the IU

916
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 4: quarterback though he starts the season as my quarterback four,

917
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 4: he isn't far behind the players in front of him.

918
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 4: He gives off Jared Goff vibes, and the first round

919
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 4: is a realistic goal.

920
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 5: So what you're asking me is could he be coming

921
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 5: to the Colts?

922
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 4: Yes, and I'm not laughing at that right wep, as

923
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 4: you thought about it a minute, it certainly is what

924
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 4: I talk about it because there's a lot of other

925
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 4: college quarterbacks you have to think about. But if you

926
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 4: are the fourth rank quarterback in next year's draft class

927
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 4: and you have the potential to move up that list, yes,

928
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 4: when you watch Indiana football this year, I'm gonna say

929
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 4: also need to be watching.

930
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 7: Yeah.

931
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 6: There will certainly be an element, at least inside of

932
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,720
Speaker 6: myself where I'll be watching collg football this year anytime

933
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 6: I hear about a first round quarterback, and depending on

934
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 6: where the Colts are in the standings, and obviously I

935
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 6: don't want to get on tankathon dot com too early

936
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 6: in the season, but if it gets to that point

937
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 6: six seven games in, yeah, I'll be looking to see

938
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 6: is there a possibility for a new QB to be

939
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 6: coming a town, Because I do think that's a conversation

940
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 6: you could have depending on things go south with Daniel

941
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 6: Jones or Anthony Richardson.

942
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna say, if Daniel Jones ends up

943
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 2: being your starter for most of the year, aren't you

944
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 2: right back in the quarterback market? In the draft?

945
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 3: Next year you're in the quarterback market, I think, regardless

946
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 3: of who starts a quarterback.

947
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 5: Quite honestly, it's.

948
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 7: A turd burger, right, Yes, well.

949
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 6: It is gonna say. Mark is spoken like a true.

950
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 4: If Daniel Jones, you will owe Daniel Jones more money

951
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 4: than you would owe Anthony Richardson at the end of

952
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 4: the season if we want to play that game out.

953
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones is the true free agent. So if he

954
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 4: has a whatever, good year, then you're gonna have to

955
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 4: give him whatever two three years on the open market.

956
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 4: Whereas Anthony Richardson, if he has a good year, he's

957
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 4: still in her contract already for.

958
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 7: Twenty twenty six.

959
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 4: You have a decision make on its fifth year option

960
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 4: for twenty twenty seven.

961
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but nothing.

962
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 4: You don't have to give him the mega extension.

963
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 3: I think even if he plays bat you're still keeping

964
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 3: him next year because of that rookie contract. You're gonna

965
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 3: not pick up his fifth year option, but you'll keep

966
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 3: him because he's on a rookie deal.

967
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think it's that far fetch you might get,

968
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 4: you know, whatever trade to you Trey Lanson's.

969
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 6: Way say, for I would probably keep him at that point,

970
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 6: and then I know I'm getting way down line into

971
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 6: the future. But if I don't pick up the fifth

972
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 6: year option, Mark, I'm looking to trade at that point

973
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 6: because you're not in my quarterback in the future and

974
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:37,240
Speaker 6: I had you have something in return.

975
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 2: That's why we're hoping to get to some nod in

976
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 2: one direction or another later today from the Cults. When

977
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 2: Chase Stichen speaks to the media at about eleven o'clock

978
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 2: this morning, all right, coming up in just a moment,

979
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 2: we turned back to the Colts, and one of your

980
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 2: compatriots over there at the Athletic wrote a terrific piece

981
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: this week that everybody in India is talking about James.

982
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 2: We'll discuss that next at ninety three five and one

983
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 2: oh seven five of the Fames and through Tuesday morning,

984
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 2: hopefully on our way to having a starting quarterback name

985
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 2: for the Indianapolis Colts. A little bit later on today

986
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 2: and maybe we're all just hopeful, James. Maybe we're just

987
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 2: all hoping against hope we get an answer today. We'll

988
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 2: have to wait and find out, and we'll talk more

989
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 2: about that in a minute. In fact, we can talk

990
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 2: about it right now with our next guest. Zach Kiefer

991
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 2: writes for The Athletic. He has covered the Colts for

992
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 2: a long time, but now covers the entire National Football

993
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: League and also just a terrific writer that does some

994
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: great in depth pieces. Uh and they're always incredibly interesting

995
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,240
Speaker 2: to read, and he joins us now in the payless

996
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 2: Liquers hotline. How's that for an intro, Zach Kiefer.

997
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 9: I don't think I can live up to that, but

998
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 9: thank you for the kind He ain't now, you know,

999
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 9: he's okay games eventually.

1000
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 6: Oh wait a second, I gotta see this guy at

1001
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 6: some point this year, and I gotta, you know, you know,

1002
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 6: give him a little grief.

1003
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 5: But it is good to hear from you. I do

1004
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 5: want to start here, Kevin.

1005
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 6: Obviously, the Andrew love piece we we've found out, I

1006
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 6: think I found it pretty fascinading. I knew kind of

1007
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 6: behind the scenes you had told me for a while

1008
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 6: you were working on it, you know, made it out

1009
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 6: there to California to talk to Andrew Luck. And I

1010
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 6: know this isn't the biggest takeaway from the story, but

1011
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 6: one of the funniest takeaways it had me thinking, you know,

1012
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 6: was the Jacoby Brissett reference. He needed a you apply

1013
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 6: for the job over at Stanford, and he put down

1014
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 6: Jacoby Brissett as one of his references.

1015
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 2: And what was your.

1016
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 5: Reaction to that?

1017
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 6: And perhaps, you know, in all seriousness, that bomb that

1018
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 6: you still had with so many guys that he left

1019
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 6: in a way, if that makes.

1020
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 9: Sense, Yeah, I think it kind of steaks to a

1021
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 9: bigger thing. Right, So this guy was kind of in

1022
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 9: a fog for a couple of years. Andrew Luck was

1023
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 9: he didn't know what was next in his life. And look,

1024
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 9: these are first world problems, right, You have all the

1025
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 9: money in the world and you don't know what to

1026
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 9: do with the rest of your life. So I don't

1027
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 9: really want to throw a pity party for him, but

1028
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 9: I think the little moments like you referenced, James, like

1029
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 9: those things helped him remind him how much football was

1030
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 9: a part of him. Like he's applying for the first

1031
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 9: real job of his life, now, that's what he said.

1032
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 9: And I was like, hey, you were an NFL quarterback

1033
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 9: for seven years, that's a real But he's like, no, like,

1034
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 9: my first real world job was this Stanford general mayor

1035
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 9: manager position. And he said, you know, like when he

1036
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 9: had to list three references, the first three names that

1037
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 9: came to mind, Chris Ballard, Frank Reich, and of course

1038
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 9: his good friend and former backup Jacobe Brissett Zach.

1039
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 4: Great work man, no surprise whatsoever, but outstanding job on

1040
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 4: the Andrew Luck piece. You've obviously had several long conversations

1041
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 4: with him prior with this one. Which one made you say,

1042
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 4: holy bleep? Which one made you say, wow, I didn't

1043
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 4: expect that from you.

1044
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 9: Well, it's the first quote in the story, and I

1045
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 9: cannot repeat my reaction on the air right now. But

1046
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 9: I had asked him this question years ago, like two

1047
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 9: or three years ago, and he said I was going

1048
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 9: to play until I was forty, and I kind of

1049
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 9: like brushed it off. We were off the record, I

1050
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 9: couldn't report it. And then I went back to it

1051
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 9: this time and I asked him and he said I

1052
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 9: was going to play till forty or forty five, and

1053
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 9: then he explained it to me, and my reaction KB

1054
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 9: was what in the world, Like, do.

1055
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 7: You know who you are?

1056
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 9: Like you're saying this like you're going to break Indianapolis's

1057
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:13,439
Speaker 9: heart all over again. But and you know this KB

1058
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 9: from covering him like he was. He was like everything

1059
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 9: he had to get to Sunday, like he would the injuries, everything,

1060
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 9: Like there was a loyalty, there was a discipline, There

1061
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 9: was an obligation that he felt for the city, for

1062
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 9: the team, for the franchise as the quarterback, to get

1063
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 9: to the field on Sunday. And I think when it

1064
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 9: was over, I think he was lost for a little while.

1065
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 9: I think he was in a fog. That's what I wrote.

1066
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 9: And I felt that when I had those conversations with

1067
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 9: him a couple of years ago, and the coolest thing

1068
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 9: for me was that that's over.

1069
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 7: He is.

1070
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 9: He sounds happy, he looks happy, he's reinvigorated, he's comfortable

1071
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 9: with everything. Like I felt like he hit out for

1072
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 9: a while, and he disputes that. I disagree, but like

1073
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 9: he was nowhere to be found for two or three years,

1074
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 9: and now he's out there and he's doing everything and

1075
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 9: the people closest to him are surprised by how much

1076
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 9: he's embracing quote unquote the spotlight. So, I mean, I

1077
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 9: heard this in his voice, and I haven't heard that

1078
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 9: in his voice since twenty eighteen when they were rolling

1079
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 9: win in nine of ten games going to the playoffs

1080
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 9: with Frank Reich. Like, I heard that Andrew luck happiness again,

1081
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 9: and for me as a reporter, that was just really cool.

1082
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 9: It was really cool because I feel like I'm chronicled

1083
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 9: half of his life at this point.

1084
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 7: Zach.

1085
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 4: I did think that quote that stood out to me,

1086
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 4: and I was hoping you could could expand on it

1087
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 4: was him explaining the guilt. You know, I've always had

1088
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 4: guilt about how it ended. You know, I let my

1089
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 4: teammates down. Do you think that guilt is rooted in

1090
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 4: any way, shape or form and the timing of it,

1091
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 4: Like I mean, here we are about ready to approach

1092
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,919
Speaker 4: whatever the six year anniversary of it. Is there any

1093
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 4: guilt in it? Happened in late August versus Hey, it

1094
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 4: wouldn't have been maybe as guilty of it if I

1095
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 4: did it in February of March.

1096
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,720
Speaker 9: Yeah, one hundred percent. I do think that weighs on him.

1097
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 9: It's interesting because there's this dichotomy with him and how

1098
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 9: it ended, and this is not something he thinks about

1099
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 9: daily or anything anymore. But he doesn't regret his decision.

1100
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 9: It was the right decision. And he told me this,

1101
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 9: He said, when I made the decision.

1102
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 7: I made it.

1103
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 9: And he's never looked back and thought he should have

1104
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 9: made a different decision. And you know Andrew well enough

1105
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 9: to know, like we can believe that, Like I know,

1106
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 9: when an athlete's lying to me, I really think he's

1107
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 9: telling me the truth. All that being said, I think

1108
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 9: he hates the timing of it. I think he hates

1109
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 9: that it was fifteen days before the season opener, and

1110
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 9: he hates that he had to walk out in the

1111
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 9: locker room. You know, when he came back to Stanford

1112
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 9: before his senior year and he would have gone number

1113
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 9: one on the.

1114
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 7: Draft and all that.

1115
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 9: All he told his coach David Shaw, was I got

1116
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 9: to finish with my guys, Like that was always what

1117
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 9: drove this guy was the locker room. And he quit

1118
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 9: on the locker room. And he's used that word. He's

1119
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 9: used the word quit. It's a cold word, but it's

1120
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 9: the reality. He walked out on this team fifteen days

1121
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 9: before the season opener in which they could have made

1122
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 9: a Super Bowl run that year. So I think he

1123
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 9: wrestled with that for a long time. Just because it

1124
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 9: was the right decision doesn't mean he made it at

1125
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 9: the right time. And I think he wrestled with that,

1126
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 9: and that was a really really hard thing to get over,

1127
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 9: and I'm not sure he's entirely over it now, Zach.

1128
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 6: Has he ever really explained that part of it, just

1129
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 6: the why the timing was what it was.

1130
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 9: I think he didn't see a way forward. And it

1131
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 9: goes back to this promise he made himself. I mean,

1132
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 9: twenty seventeen was a really really dark year for him,

1133
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 9: really dark. Things were not good with his student to

1134
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 9: be wife, he hated football, he was a miserable person

1135
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 9: to be around. These are his words, and he told himself,

1136
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,280
Speaker 9: if I'm ever going down this path again, I'm done.

1137
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 9: I don't want to do this to my life. That's

1138
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 9: what hit him in August of twenty nineteen, and I

1139
00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:01,919
Speaker 9: think he was starting to really realize is that there's

1140
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 9: not going to be a way out. If he gets

1141
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 9: this thing fixed, then something else is going to happen.

1142
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 9: But it's just surreal to think about, like, think about

1143
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 9: a starting quarterback anywhere in the league right now retiring

1144
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 9: like right now with the season so close. It just

1145
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 9: defies the leaf, even now having lived it, having covered it.

1146
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 9: But I just think he made that promise to himself,

1147
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 9: and he's a man of conviction, and it had to

1148
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 9: be the hardest thing he's ever done in his life,

1149
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 9: and he said it was. But he kept that promise

1150
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 9: to himself, and that meant walking away if it got

1151
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 9: bad again, and it did, and boy, the timing was

1152
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 9: really bad for everybody involved.

1153
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 2: Zach Obviously, the physical discomfort that he was in played

1154
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 2: a huge overwhelming part in all of that. Do you

1155
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 2: get the sense that he is still dealing with pain

1156
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 2: issues today or is his body grown away from that?

1157
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 7: No, he's good.

1158
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,240
Speaker 9: I asked him about that. And he likes to go surfing,

1159
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 9: and like Andrew luck is skinny, Like he's got these

1160
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 9: little wiry glasses, and like, I'm like, dude, what happened?

1161
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 9: Like do you even lift anymore? And he's like no, man,

1162
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 9: He's like, I'm lucky if I get a twenty minute

1163
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 9: surf in every day. And I'm like, oh, that's that's

1164
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,240
Speaker 9: not an issue. We have in Indianapolis, like to sneak

1165
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 9: in a quick surf. But it's it's he's so busy.

1166
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 9: You know, he's got two young kids and he works

1167
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 9: long hours. Like the other thing that hit me and

1168
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 9: the GM position for college football teams is different for

1169
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 9: every team. This guy is not a celebrity GM in

1170
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 9: any way like he is all he needs to be

1171
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 9: because but he is he is. He's not the big,

1172
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 9: strapping goliath that he used to be.

1173
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought it was interesting in Zach's piece you

1174
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 4: mentioned Andrew visited Brad Stevens called Sam Presti and you know,

1175
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 4: trying to learn a little bit more about what it's

1176
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 4: like being a GM. Granted, the college GM probably holds

1177
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 4: a little bit more of a you know, raising money

1178
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 4: sort of being a presence within the university than professional GM. Zach,

1179
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 4: I guess a question that I have that you know,

1180
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 4: I don't know people occasionally asked me, but maybe it's

1181
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 4: more of just like the random sports fan that doesn't

1182
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 4: pay attention to the NFL, of like why did Andrew

1183
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 4: Luck retire? Like if you were on an elevator ride

1184
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 4: and someone asked you that, I feel like my answer

1185
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,479
Speaker 4: would be something to the degree of the injury. Pain

1186
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 4: in the rehab started to impact the other relationships in

1187
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 4: his life, and he felt like that was too much

1188
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 4: to overcome. Is that the right elevator pitch? Am I

1189
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 4: missing anything? If you had to answer that question in

1190
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 4: a very sync manner, you.

1191
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 9: Know, it's funny, KB. I could answer it in the

1192
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,479
Speaker 9: most extinct manner you can imagine, because I asked Andrew

1193
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 9: that question and it was well into our conversation and

1194
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 9: he answered it with five words, and it just kind

1195
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 9: of hit me how easy it was in his mind

1196
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 9: at that time. I fell out of love. That's what

1197
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 9: he said. Sentence, he said, I fell out of love.

1198
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 9: And for him it was that simple. It was like,

1199
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 9: I didn't enjoy doing this anymore. This was pain, This

1200
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 9: was miserable. He was a miserable person. And he's like,

1201
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 9: I had to remove football from my life. And I

1202
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 9: get asked that question all the time, even after the

1203
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 9: podcast came out, and I'm like, if you want to

1204
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 9: know why he quit, you need to watch the retirement

1205
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 9: press conference. He spills his entire soul on that stage.

1206
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 9: He does, I mean, it's all right there, it's all

1207
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 9: right there in front of you, and I get him

1208
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 9: a lot of credit for doing that, because remember, the

1209
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 9: press conference was going to be a day later, and

1210
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 9: his family was going to be there, and it was

1211
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 9: going to be much more organized and professional. And instead

1212
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 9: he's up there with his ankle taped in a Colt

1213
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 9: T shirt, fighting through tears after he was booed off

1214
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 9: his home field fifteen minutes earlier. That could not have

1215
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 9: been an easy situation. But you know this big question

1216
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 9: that we've all had, that the NFL's had for years,

1217
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 9: Andrew Luck answered it in five words. I fell out

1218
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 9: of love And I said it was that simple, and

1219
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 9: he's like, well, no, it was never that simple. But

1220
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 9: for him, in his mind, he didn't enjoy football at

1221
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 9: that point. And the strange thing for me was I

1222
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 9: never thought he would be back in football at all.

1223
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 9: Me and Holder talked about this forever, my colleague Stephen Holder,

1224
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 9: and we never thought we'd see him back in football.

1225
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 9: And that's what I had to answer with this story.

1226
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 9: Why is he back at Stanford fighting another uphill battle

1227
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 9: back in football? And the interesting thing is he was

1228
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 9: mad at football for a while. He couldn't watch games,

1229
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 9: he'd have dreams about it, he'd walk around the house

1230
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 9: and say, I cannot be thirty years old and retired.

1231
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 9: This is ridiculous. And then slowly, but surely, the game

1232
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 9: that had beaten the crap out of him began to

1233
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 9: pull him back in and he started to fall in

1234
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 9: love just like he had as a teenager. Now he's

1235
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 9: not playing it. But it's just interesting. The guy that

1236
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 9: could do anything in the world. I thought he would

1237
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 9: go spend time in Europe and design buildings and all

1238
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 9: that stuff was voluntar. Hearing to coach high school football

1239
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 9: in Palo Alto and is now facing one of the

1240
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 9: toughest jobs in college football that I did not see.

1241
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 5: Tommy last one from me, Zach.

1242
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 6: When I look at this picture of Andrew Luck, which

1243
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 6: is the lead photo for your story, he's got the

1244
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 6: gray hairs come out of his beard, and you would

1245
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 6: think to the guys like forty and I believe he's

1246
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 6: what thirty five, thirty six.

1247
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 10: And so it's but how have you seen him sort

1248
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 10: of reinvent himself in this new chapter, because as you said,

1249
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 10: he mentioned falling out of love with the game, and

1250
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 10: it's not the.

1251
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 5: Same type of love because you're not playing.

1252
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 6: But how have you seen him embrace sort of like

1253
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 6: the academic student athlete, you know, oversee your role because

1254
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 6: as you know, he loves education, probably just as much

1255
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 6: as not more than he loves football.

1256
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 5: He loves learning and just things of that nature.

1257
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:55,240
Speaker 9: Yeah, nice plug there, KB. He that's a good question, James.

1258
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:59,720
Speaker 9: The most surprising thing that I heard from people around

1259
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 9: him to be the pretcher who lost his job to

1260
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 9: Andrew as a quarterback at Stanford and has remained close

1261
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 9: to him and Frank Reich as well. They were, like Zach,

1262
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 9: we didn't think he was getting all in with the

1263
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 9: fundraising MC selling stuff, right, Like we all know that

1264
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 9: guy that's not Andrew, and he loves that like Frank's

1265
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 9: Like Zach, I saw him MC this event last night

1266
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 9: and I had to like make sure it was him.

1267
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 9: Like he's out there, And that's the surprising part because

1268
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 9: he was hidden, you know, he was he was like

1269
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 9: bigfoot around here for so long after he retired, and

1270
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 9: now he's out there every day. He's talking with reporters Like, KYB,

1271
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 9: you're gonna get a kick out of this. Like when

1272
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 9: I walked into his office, he hugged me like Andrew Lock,

1273
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,280
Speaker 9: who would hide from reporters for half of his NFL

1274
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 9: career in Indianapolis. I was like, Oh, we're doing that now,

1275
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 9: like it's now in fairness, In fairness, we've been through

1276
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 9: a lot. But he's really happy. I think he's really

1277
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 9: happy that he's back in something like and this is

1278
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 9: this is what it went back through for me when

1279
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 9: I was talking to him, like he needed to be

1280
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 9: back in it, He needed to be back in a

1281
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 9: locker room, he needed to be back on a field.

1282
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 9: He feels reinvigorated. He has a challenge, Like David Shaw

1283
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 9: says in the story, like Andrew was never a back

1284
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 9: of the room guy. You don't become one of the

1285
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 9: best college football quarterbacks ever if you're a back of

1286
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 9: the room guy in the NFL. And the way it

1287
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,439
Speaker 9: ended kind of made him go into hiding. I don't

1288
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 9: think that fits his personality. I think this job fits

1289
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 9: it way more. But it's studying to see how out

1290
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 9: there he is, how much he's embracing all the things

1291
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 9: that he didn't like as an NFL player. He didn't

1292
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 9: like it when we would crowd around his locker. He

1293
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 9: didn't like all the press conferences. He didn't like all

1294
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 9: the celebrity aspects. That came with being a star quarterback,

1295
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 9: and it seems like he's embracing all those aspects as

1296
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 9: the Stanford GM.

1297
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 7: One.

1298
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 9: He needs to he needs to raise money, he needs

1299
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 9: to shake hands and kiss babies and all that stuff.

1300
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 9: But two, I think he welcomes a challenge. I think

1301
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 9: he wants the challenge again. He knows he might fail.

1302
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 9: But like he said in the story, I'm a quarterback.

1303
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Speaker 9: I know what pressure feels like, and I think a

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Speaker 9: lot of him missed that when he was away from

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Speaker 9: the game.

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Speaker 2: Zach, good stuff as always, great job of enterprising that

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Speaker 2: and getting it together. I know you don't cover the

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Speaker 2: cults every day, but I also know you pay attention.

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Speaker 2: Jones or Richardson, yes.

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Speaker 7: Today today, can we get Ane?

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Speaker 2: We hope, we hope, we're looking for it.

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Speaker 9: I mentioned this today JMV.

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Speaker 7: Yesterday.

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Speaker 9: I think it's going to be Richardson. I wanted to

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Speaker 9: be Richardson. I don't feel like Jones has taken the

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Speaker 9: job from him. But I go back to two things

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Speaker 9: that give me pause with that. One is when I

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Speaker 9: talked to Daniel Jones at training camp, and the first

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Speaker 9: thing he said about what Shane told them about how

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Speaker 9: the job would be decided was who the coaches trust

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Speaker 9: that has stayed with me. And then secondly, I think

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Speaker 9: James asked Shane on Saturday after the preseason loss, you know,

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Speaker 9: how are you going to decide this? And the first

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Speaker 9: thing he said was who's going to run the appera.

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Speaker 9: Those are the only things that give me pause. I mean,

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Speaker 9: Richardson couldn't even make it a series in the preseason

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Speaker 9: without screwing something up and getting hurt. But I don't

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Speaker 9: think Jones has done enough to win the job away

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Speaker 9: from the incumbent. But we'll see because those two things

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Speaker 9: make me think it could be Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 2: All right, buddy, we'll look for an answer, maybe later today.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 9: Great word, Zach, Thanks guys, as always,