1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Live from vall Hartbeyer and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. Welcome everybody to Tony Katz today, this Monday, 3 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: August twenty fifth. As you could probably tell by now, 4 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: Tony Katz is out. He's doing the Lord's work out 5 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: there today, going out and supporting the community. He asked 6 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: me last night, last minute, can I fill in? Of course, 7 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: I love the TKT audience. I'm Cure Dave's filling in 8 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 1: for my good friend Tony Kats coming to you live 9 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: from southern California. That's right. I am behind the communist 10 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: wall here in California. You can find me on x 11 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: at Real Kira Davis. That's k I are a real 12 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: Kia Davis. Go sign up for my substack at just 13 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: Kiaradavis dot subtec dot com, by my book drawing Lines 14 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: why Conservatives must be into battle fiercely in the arena 15 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: of ideas, or just search my name on Google. I 16 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: am not the Hollywood producer named Kia Davis or the 17 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: anime voiceover named Kia Davis. Who do There were so 18 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: many amazing Kira Davis's out there. This means I have 19 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: to step up my game. I've got to be number 20 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: one in the search results. So we're going to have 21 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: a rock and show today in pursuit of that very 22 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: important goal. But we've got a lot going on. I mean, 23 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: even as I was getting ready to sit down to 24 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: this mic, I had to turn off the President. I 25 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: was waiting for him to finish his Oval Office press conference. 26 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: He's signing a bunch of executive orders, and it's just 27 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: it's we're an hour in now, an hour in. President 28 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: Trump last I check was still talking and I had 29 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: to come to the mic. I couldn't finish. I was 30 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: really hoping to get some clips. We've got a little bit. 31 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: We'll see what else pops up during the show and 32 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: I'll play those for you. But we definitely need to 33 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: address what went on there today, what's still going on. 34 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: But before we start that, I just want to say 35 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: that President Trump has been talking all morning. I tuned 36 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: into the news on Saturday, and he was out and about. 37 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: I don't even remember where he was, but wherever he was, 38 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 1: he talked for forty five minutes, and then he went 39 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: to the Oval Office and sat in there for another 40 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: ninety and then he left there and he went somewhere 41 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: else and talked to the press and anyone who was 42 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: there for another ninety minutes. And I know that at 43 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: this point in our history this is just stating the obvious, 44 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: but I cannot get over the stark difference between this 45 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: president and what we have endured for the last four years. 46 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: And I think the longer this goes on, the more 47 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: I realize how traumatized we really were. I think all 48 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: Americans are having this experience. I believe you are too. 49 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: I think a lot of us are. We're going to 50 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: connect this to what's going on here in California with 51 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: our esteemed Governor Gavin Newsom, who I'm positive you've seen 52 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: in the news lately. Weird stuff going on here, weird, 53 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: weird stuff, but it's all connected. But the Democrats think, 54 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: as led by their weird Disney adult leader Gavin Newsom, 55 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: the Democrats think that messaging is going to change things. 56 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: We would just change the way we message our messages. 57 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: It's going to change things. And it's just a matter 58 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: of going to find, you know, going back to remind 59 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: those people that didn't vote in twenty twenty four for them, 60 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: or just didn't vote at all, that hey, we're here 61 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: for you. Whatever they want to go get the voters 62 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: that they lost. I get it. But the whole what 63 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: they don't understand is that everybody in America we're just 64 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: we're not far enough away from the Biden administration to 65 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: forget what they did to us. We're not. We are 66 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: because we're still living in the after effects. That's why 67 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: I think things like the Sydney Sweeney thing, other cultural 68 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: things that might be coming up. You've seen all these 69 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: sorority pledging videos that are We're having all these cultural conversations, 70 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 1: and this is the reason why they matter, because the 71 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: reason why is we're still the cracker barrel thing. Great example, 72 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: we'll talk about that today too, the cracker barrel thing. 73 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: The redesign, it's not like necessarily a woke redesign, but 74 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: what it is is the fumes. It's the leftover if 75 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: it's the fumes of the DEI CRT progressive movement. So 76 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: they're still putting out those fumes and that's good for 77 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: us actually, because that means it's going to be harder 78 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: to memory hole the last four years. So as Gavin 79 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: Newsom is out there with this new we are trolling 80 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: strategy that he's got, he's using his account to ape Trump, 81 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: or he thinks he's aping Trump, and I guess troll 82 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: the right. He's really just trolling us, the citizens. But 83 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: we'll get to that. But I guess the idea, I 84 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: guess the idea behind that is is to create some 85 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: type of new mystique or new memory. But all it 86 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: does is remind us that you're not what we voted for. 87 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: You're not what we voted for. That's what we are 88 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 1: seeing now. Everything is still so close to us. We 89 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: are just barely digging out. We are just barely getting 90 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: our bearings here, which is both terrifying and exciting to 91 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: think of how much further we can go in the 92 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: next three and a half years. It hasn't been long 93 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: enough to forget what they did to us. So everybody 94 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: sees it. Everybody sees what Gavin Newsman is weirdo of 95 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:03,239 Speaker 1: press team or doing. Everybody sees mayor people like mayor 96 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: Brandon Johnson in Chicago or the DC mayor or all 97 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: of these democrats literally protesting against safety, against law and order. 98 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: Everybody sees it. It's not invisible. And I know for 99 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: you out there, you might be feeling frustrated because the 100 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: media is doing. The mainstream media is doing what they 101 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: always do, but they're not winning. Make no mistake. Just 102 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: because you see it on TV, just because they're talking 103 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: head say it doesn't mean that the rest of America 104 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: is believing it. And I think we proved that last November. 105 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: So what we are seeing, what we are witnessing right 106 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: here is a market correction at thirty thousand feet and 107 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: the Democrats don't know what to do. That's clear. We 108 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: talk Tony talks about it every day. We talk about 109 00:06:55,320 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: it on the show every day. What is happening here 110 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: is that the fumes of the old playbook are running out. 111 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: Democrats have nothing new, They don't know what to do, 112 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: they have nothing new to bank on, and we are 113 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: and they don't understand that Americans have not forgotten. So 114 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: every time we see President Trump out there and he's 115 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: talking for four or five hours at a time, yeah, 116 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: it is, it is stark. It is a stark reminder 117 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: of what we came through just months ago. So the 118 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: President was in the Oval Office signing executive orders this 119 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: morning and he signed one that this is already making 120 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: a lot of controversy among conservatives and Republicans, even on 121 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: X he has signed an executive order prosecuting the burning 122 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: of the American flag. Now, there are a lot of 123 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: people are saying, look, Scotus has already ruled on this. 124 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: It's perfectly legal to burn the flag. It is a 125 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: pretty is a form of protected speech, First Amendment right. 126 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: So a lot of Conservatis are saying, look, this is 127 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: not how we do it. We can't become them. This 128 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: is authoritarianism. However, and by the way, I'm not sure 129 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: if I agree actually, but I see their point, and 130 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: Scotis did rule on it. That being said, I was 131 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: watching the President as he signed the executive order and 132 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: I heard what he said about it, And what he 133 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: said was this is it's not a blanket fan, so 134 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: it's not a Look, if you set fire to the flag, 135 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: cops are coming. You're going to jail for a year immediately, 136 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: because that's a penalty here, a year in jail. What 137 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: he said was, where we see incidences a public burning 138 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: of the American flag, we're going to investigate. The dj 139 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: and the Three Letter agencies are going to investigate. And 140 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: if we find that this flag burning is connected to terrorism, 141 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: is connected to a provocation of terroristic activities violent, then 142 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 1: we will pursue prosecution. That's what it says. So I've 143 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: been waiting for the executive order email to come through 144 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: because the White House puts out everything in written form 145 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: when they do it. So here is what it says. 146 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: Here's the executive order from the White House, delivered as 147 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 1: I was talking to you just now, prosecuting burning of 148 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: the American flag by the authority vested in me YadA, YadA. 149 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: Our great American Flag is the most sacred and cherished 150 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: symbol of the United States of America and of American freedom, identity, 151 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: and strength. Over nearly two and a half centuries, many 152 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: thousands of American patriots have fought, bled and died to 153 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: keep the stars and stripes waving proudly. The American flag 154 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: is a special symbol on our national life that we 155 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: should unite and represent, that should unite and represent Americans 156 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: of every background. A walk of life. Desecrating it is 157 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: uniquely offensive and provocative. It is a statement of contempt, hostility, 158 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: and violence against our nation, the clearest possible expression of 159 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: opposition to the political union that preserves our rights, liberty, 160 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: and security. Burning this representation of America may incite violence 161 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: and riot American flag burning is also used by groups 162 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: of foreign nationals as a calculated act to intimidate and 163 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: threaten violence against Americans because of their nationality and place 164 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: of birth. Notwithstanding the Supreme Court's ruling on First Amendment protections, 165 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: the Court has never held that American flag desecration conducted 166 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: in a manner that is likely to incite imminent lawless action, 167 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: or that his action amounting to quote fighting words is 168 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: constitutionally protected. See Texas v. Johnson for any one US 169 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: Section three ninety seven. My administration will act to restore 170 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: respect and sanctity to the American flag and prosecute those 171 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: who incite violence or otherwise violate our laws while desecrating 172 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: the symbol of our country to the extent permissible under 173 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: any available authority, and the measures are the Attorney General 174 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: shall prioritize the enforcement to the fullest extent possible. This 175 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: may include, but is not limited to, violent crimes, hate crimes, 176 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: illegal discrimination among American against American citizens, or violations of 177 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: American civil rights. In cases where the Department of Justice 178 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: or other executive agency determines that an instance of American 179 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: flag desecration may violate an applicable state or local law, 180 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: such as open burning restrictions, disorderly conduct laws, or destruction 181 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: of property laws. The agencies shall refer the matter to 182 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: the appropriate state or local authority for potential action. It 183 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: goes on. If you don't get the memos from the 184 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: White House, I highly suggest you go to the website 185 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: and sign up for the updates because everything that Trump says, everything, 186 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: they put it in a mass and they put it 187 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: out and so there you have it. There you have it. 188 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 1: I think I want to talk about this morning. I 189 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 1: want to break down what I've read here, but I 190 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: think we should take a break, so don't go anywhere. 191 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: I'm Kia Davis. I'm filling in for Tony Katz and 192 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: you're listening to Tony Katz today. Welcome back to Tony 193 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: Katz today. I'm Kira Davis filling in for my good 194 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: friend Tony Katz and a hearty congratulations to a great 195 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: event over the weekend Hollywood to the Heartland with our 196 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 1: mutual good friend Nick Searcy. He was there. It was whiskey, 197 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: it was cigars, it was conversation. Sold out. Looks like 198 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: it was a great time. So to everybody who went. 199 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: I'm jealous, but I'm glad you had a good time 200 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 1: with Tony. Well, we've been talking about President Trump's executive 201 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: order that he just signed to ban flag burning. Now 202 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: I've been explaining that it's actually not as cat and 203 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 1: dry as social media is making it sound. Right now, 204 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: Conservatives are going nuts right now on social media. This 205 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: is not what we do. This is not free speech. 206 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: I have some things to say about it, but let's 207 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: just hear what Trump said just moments ago in the 208 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: Oval Office about the Executive Order on flag burning. Let's 209 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: play that clip. 210 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 2: When you burn the American flag, it incites rios at 211 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: levels that we've never seen before. People go crazy in 212 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 2: a way both ways. There's some that are going crazy 213 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 2: for doing it. There are others that are angry angry 214 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 2: about them doing it. Do you want to discuss them? 215 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 3: Sure? 216 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 4: What the executive order does the charges your Department of 217 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 4: Justice with investigating instances of flag burning and then where 218 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 4: there's evidence of criminal activity, that where prosecution wouldn't fall 219 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 4: afoul of the First Amendment, and instructs the Department of 220 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 4: Justice to prosecute those who are engaged in these instances 221 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 4: of flagburn. 222 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 3: And what the penalty is going to be. If you 223 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 3: burn a flag, you get one year in jail. No 224 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 3: early exits, no nothing. You get one year in jail. 225 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 2: If you burn a flag, you get and what it 226 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 2: does is insight to write. 227 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 3: I hope they use that language. By the way, did 228 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 3: they insight to riot? 229 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 2: And you burn a flag you get one year in jail. 230 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 2: You don't get ten years, you don't get one month. 231 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 2: You get one year in jail, and it goes on 232 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 2: your record, and you will see flag burning stopping immediately, 233 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 2: just like when I signed the Statute and Monument Act, 234 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 2: ten years in jail. If you heard any of our 235 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 2: beautiful monuments, everybody left town. 236 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 3: They were gone. They've had a problem after that. It's 237 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 3: pretty amazing we stopped it. 238 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 2: But this is something that's I don't know, in a 239 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 2: certain way, it's equally as important. 240 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 3: Some people would say it's more important. 241 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 2: Because the people in this country don't want to see 242 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 2: our American flag burned and spit on, and by people 243 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 2: that are in many. 244 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 3: Cases paid agitators. They're paid by the radical left to 245 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 3: do it. 246 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 2: You talk to these people, they don't even know half 247 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 2: of them, I even know what they're doing. 248 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 3: They sat, they gave me money to do this. I 249 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 3: see the same. 250 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 2: Things that you do, the bad people that tried to 251 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 2: destroy a nation that's not working, because I think our 252 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 2: nation now is the most respected nation anywhere in the 253 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 2: world by far. 254 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 3: You saw that with the European leaders, Okay on Friday. 255 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: All right, So there you have it. Just as I 256 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: was saying before the break that this one's definitely being 257 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: misframed by conservatives. I think now my personal feelings about 258 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: the whole flag burning thing. Even when I was a liberal, 259 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: right like almost twenty years ago. Now it's been conservative 260 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: almost twenty years. Even when I was a liberal, I 261 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: did not understand the free speech flag burning thing. I 262 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: never thought. I've always felt, why is it free speech 263 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: to burn? Why isn't it criminal to burn the flag 264 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: of your own nation? That just seems like the most 265 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: basic form of patriotism of like, we don't desecrate our 266 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: own symbols. You know, this is how I feel about 267 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: the Bible, Right, you don't desecrate the Bible. Yes, it's 268 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: just a book that's been reprinted and reprinted. You know, technically, 269 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: it's words on pages. Why can't I just throw the 270 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: Bible down and stomp on it or whatever. You don't 271 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: desecrate the symbols that are that are core to your 272 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: identity or especially your national identity. And to respect a flag, 273 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: to me, it's the same thing as respecting the borders. 274 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: Like you can't crash the border and you're not supposed to. 275 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: You can't crash the border. I just I feel the 276 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: same way about the flag. That being said, there are 277 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people who make decent arguments for why 278 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: it is free speech. Okay, fine, but I see what 279 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: the president is doing here, and I would admonish conservatives 280 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: and Republicans be careful and how you're framing this. You're 281 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: accusing people of being like the other side. 282 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 4: Right. 283 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: Censoring free speech. That's your accusation. That's my accusation to you. 284 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: You're being like the other side right now because you're 285 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: not reading the details of this. You're not paying attention 286 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: to the details of this. If you read it, you 287 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: can see a First of all, President Trump is not 288 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: an idiot. Have we not figured this out yet? He's 289 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: not an idiot. He would not sign this order if 290 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: he didn't think he had legal standing. Be if you 291 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: read the order, which I read most of it to you, 292 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: just now, if you read the order, you see how 293 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: he details out how it can happen. Notwithstanding Texas v. Johnson, 294 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: this Supreme Court ruling does not protect violence. It does 295 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: not protect provocative actions. Also, you heard in this clip 296 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: President Trump saying a lot of these people are foreign agitators. 297 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: He is addressing the war that is going on in 298 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: our country right now. And maybe this feels uncomfortable to you, 299 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: but it's too late for comfort. We are so far 300 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: down the rabbit hole. It's too late. This is what 301 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: we have been warning against for four years, and now 302 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,959 Speaker 1: we're here. It's too late. So uncomfortable things are going 303 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: to have to happen to get us back to right. 304 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: And I surely do hope we can get back to 305 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: right and we don't overcompensate. I don't trust the human 306 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: condition enough to not overcompensate. But this is the way 307 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: we have to go. So I think everyone needs to 308 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: put on their big boy underwear, their big girl panties, 309 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: put them on. Grow up. President Trump isn't saying that 310 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: if you burn a flag you're going to jail for 311 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: a year. That's not what he's saying. That's what the 312 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: headlines are saying. That is not what he said. He 313 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: said that you can be prosecuted. They will investigate, and 314 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: if they find that these are connected to terroristic activities, 315 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: and you know darn well they are. You know darn well, 316 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: a lot of these people burning our flags, they are 317 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: literally paid for by terrorist organizations, then those people should 318 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: be investigated and every available avenue of the law should 319 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: be used to prosecute them. I don't see why that's 320 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: a problem. I don't see why anyone would have a 321 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: problem with that. This is war people, all right, we 322 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: got to take a break. Don't go anywhere. I'm Cia 323 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: Davis sitting in for Tony Katz today and you're listening 324 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: to Tony Katz Today. Welcome back to Tony Katz Today, 325 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: this Monday, August twenty fifth. Tony Katz is out just 326 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 1: for today, out there serving the community, but I am 327 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: here with you to guide you through the next couple hours. 328 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: I'm Kia Davis. You can find me on x at 329 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: Real Kia Davis or go to my Instagram at Just 330 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,239 Speaker 1: Listen to Yourself. That's the name of my podcast, Just 331 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 1: Listen to Yourself, which is on a summer break right now. 332 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: But there's over three hundred great episodes of critical thinking 333 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: on there and great interviews. Highly recommended. Go look that up, 334 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: just listen to yourself. Well, we've been talking about the 335 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: executive orders, particularly the Flagman Order that President Trump signed today. 336 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: I really think conservatives have this wrong. The talking head 337 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: conservatives are very upset. They feel this is coming on 338 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: the heels of yesterday, the White House announcing or over 339 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: the weekend, the White House announcing that they now own 340 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: our government now owns a ten percent interest in Intel. 341 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: I'm confused about that. I don't understand how the government 342 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: can own a part of an Intel company. I'm not sure. 343 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: I'll have to look into that further. My spidy senses 344 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: tell me that this is connected to chip production and 345 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: how the American government really does need to make sure 346 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: that they are that they always have a stake in it, 347 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: because right now chip production has been moved over right 348 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 1: to China, and so he's been trying to wrestle back. 349 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: But we're kind of screwed if China decides to ever 350 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: cut that off in a case of war. I mean, 351 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 1: we're really we are almost at that line anyway, And 352 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: if Trump hadn't come in, I think we would be 353 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: totally beholden to the Chinese for everything right now. So 354 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: I kind of get that angle. I just don't understand 355 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: the legalities of it, and yeah, it does make me uncomfortable. 356 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: I'll look into it, and I think that is what 357 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: people are Maybe they're looking at that and then they're going, Okay, 358 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: I really don't want this to get authoritarian. I understand that. 359 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: But if you read the executive order, it's very clear. 360 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: Actually I read it in the last segment. You can 361 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: go to the White House. You can look it up 362 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: for yourself. Just do a Google surge Executive Order on 363 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: Flag Banning. Read the whole thing. It's not very long, 364 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: and it does lay out that it's not a blanket 365 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: ban on flag burning. It is it is a promise. Basically, 366 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: it's a promise to investigate. And again, I want everyone 367 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: to understand that this is not None of these things 368 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: are happening in isolation. The Trump team has a plan. 369 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,959 Speaker 1: He has been gaming this for four years. It's not 370 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: like he just went into the Oval Office with a 371 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: pen and just started signing executive orders willy nilly. He 372 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: knows that this stuff has to stick, and it has 373 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: to stick long enough for Congress to codify it. He 374 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: knows this, he has a team of lawyers, He's gained 375 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: every option. If he thought this wouldn't hold up, or 376 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: that it couldn't at least receive a proper defense in 377 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 1: a court of law, he never would have done it. 378 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: But again, if you go read the executive order, you 379 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: will see that it is really just related to incidents, 380 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: incidences that incite violence. Those incidences will be investigated. But 381 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: also using the law where it is, laws like burning 382 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: in public right, laws like rioting, laws, stuff like that, 383 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: you can That is the other thing. It's not just 384 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: about the burning of the flag, but it is also 385 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: about law and order, the broken windows. It's about this 386 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: is the one thing. Again, going back to how I 387 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: started the show, I said, look, we're not far enough 388 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: from the Biden administration to forget what they did to us. 389 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: We all still remember, we're all still living out the 390 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: trauma of that, and so we understood. We remember the 391 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: summer of BLM, We remember the summer of love and 392 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: every consequence summer and this past summer and fall and spring, 393 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: when liberal demons were out there tearing up our streets 394 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: during COVID restrictions, marching in the streets, burning down shops, 395 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: tearing up and terrorizing our own neighborhoods, and nothing was 396 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 1: done to them. We were fined, our businesses were closed, 397 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: We had our livelihood shut down for violating COVID restrictions, 398 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: for holding parties in some cases, for not getting vaccines. 399 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: We were punished, and we watched these people burn things 400 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: in the middle of the street. We watched millions of people, 401 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: unvetted and unvaccinated stream over our border as our own 402 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: governments were finding new ways to prosecute us and penalize 403 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: us for moving about freely in our own country and 404 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: for not getting an experimental vaccine. We saw it with 405 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: our own eyes. So yeah, this isn't just about the flag, 406 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: but it is also about a return to order. Do 407 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: you want to know why the homeless problem is so 408 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: bad in your city? By the way, I was looking 409 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: at Indianapolis News today. I like to do that when 410 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: I sit in for Tony because that's where he is 411 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: and top of you know, top headline tent homeless tent 412 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: camps remain in Indianapolis despite orders to remove them. Even 413 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: in a great heartland city like Indianapolis, you have this 414 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: homeless problem. Do you want to know why it Occupy 415 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: Wall Street. Does anybody remember that movement that was during 416 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: the Obama eras right before we got Trump the first 417 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: time right we had That's where I came into conservative 418 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 1: journalism and I covered a lot of those protests, Occupy 419 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 1: Wall Street protests where the progressives were in the streets 420 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 1: causing havoc, causing chaos. Soros funded all of that stuff. Well, 421 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: one of the things that Democrat mayor's politicians and our 422 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: own president did, President Barack Obama at the time, one 423 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: of the things they did very quietly, a lot of 424 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 1: y'all didn't think of, didn't think to note it. They 425 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: lifted the public camping restrictions. That was because people like 426 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 1: me and Tony, who were part of the Tea Party 427 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: activism group, we were trying to invoke local law to 428 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: keep these people from being violent and to keep these 429 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: people from provoking violence in the streets. Were like, you 430 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: can't park, you can't camp in the park, you can't 431 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: camp at city hall. That's illegal, so the police should 432 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: move these people out. Well, their response was to make 433 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: it legal, and they never made it illegal after. So 434 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 1: the first Occupy Wall Street protests I covered was in Denver, 435 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: and when I went there, I went down to the 436 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: encampment in the park which is right across from city 437 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: Hall in Denver, and it was three quarters homeless people. Now, 438 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: they all had signs in front of their tents, you know, 439 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 1: the activists were giving them signs, and the activists were 440 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: feeding them to keep them there, all this stuff. But 441 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: it was mostly homeless people then, and then I knew 442 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: it was a problem. So it not enforcing those laws. Yeah, 443 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: it is connected to terrorism. It is just the most 444 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: basic laws like that. Because then the Democrats and their 445 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 1: progressive looney allies come in and they go, great, we've 446 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: moved this law. This is one last law for the 447 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: right to trigger, and then we can go in and 448 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: cause havoc. And that's what they do with the flag burning. 449 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: And that's why I think it does matter to say no, 450 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 1: if you violate outdoor camping laws that are in every 451 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: state for good reason, if you violate outdoor burn laws 452 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: which are there for good reason, then we're going then 453 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: we're just going to use the law that's available to us. 454 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: I don't see anything wrong with that, and that's in 455 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: the executive order. This is leadership. I don't think this 456 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 1: is censorship. This is leadership. Again. It is not illegal 457 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: to burn the American flags. GOTUS has already ruled on that. 458 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: What Trump is talking about is cleaning up this country. 459 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: It's a disaster from top to bottom. That's what's going on. 460 00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: I need conservatives to buck up, serious sleep. This is 461 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: where we're at. We didn't want to get here. Did 462 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: you think that we were going to elect Donald Trump 463 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: and then everything was just going to go back to 464 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: normal and everything was going to be fine. 465 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 4: No. 466 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: In order to reverse some of this very despicable stuff 467 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 1: that's been happening to us, a lot of people are 468 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: going to have to get uncomfortable. But again, I don't 469 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: think Trump is working outside the constitution here. I read 470 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: the EO. I suggest that you do that too. This 471 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: is part of a larger plan. Are you starting to 472 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: see it? This is not about Russiagate or the border 473 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: or tariffs. It's about Russiagate, the border, tariffs, and it's 474 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: about all of it. It is about a leader who 475 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: is trying to remind Americans that we're in control of ourselves. 476 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: We need to take control back. We don't have to 477 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: let these things happen to us. Trump has cleaned up DC, 478 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: and it was almost immediately, just like the border. You 479 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: and I know this because we're smart people. You're listening 480 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: to Tony Kats. You're a smart person. We already know 481 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: that if you lock your door, you're gonna be safer. 482 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: You know, it's common sense, but it's not that common anymore. 483 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: All we're seeing here is a return of common sense. 484 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: But there's a lot that has to happen at the 485 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: same time. You understand that it's all hands on deck. 486 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: You can't just say we just we changed the White 487 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: House and now we can relax for a little bit. 488 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna have to do impossible things. One of the 489 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: things that Trump is doing is is cleaning up America cities. 490 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: On my sub stack, I wrote an article. This is 491 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: a few weeks maybe last month, maybe two months ago. 492 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: It's called It's time to take back America's Cities. You 493 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: can go look it up. I wrote it months ago, 494 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: and I said, look, I remember it was during the 495 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: la Ice riots, which is isn't that quae to think about? 496 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: We're four hundred and fifty end of democracies into the 497 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: crisis cycle here. According to the left, it's so quiet. Yeah, 498 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: back during the la Ice Riot. So so we don't 499 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: have to live like this America. We don't Californians. So 500 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about California specifically next hour because 501 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: I know you guys want to hear my perspective on 502 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: what's going on here from an insider. But Californians in particular, 503 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: and I think New York City has this problem, and 504 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: a lot of other cities have this problem. People have 505 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: resigned themselves and this is this way it is. It's 506 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: just how life is. We don't have to live like this. 507 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: I think once we begin to see that we don't, 508 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: that is going to spread, and it is spreading. So 509 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: President Trump is not just stopping in DC. He knows 510 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: that we are never going to win future elections if 511 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: we don't wrestle these cities back into some kind of 512 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: decent life cycle. All right, let's take a break and 513 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: when we come back, I'll explore that a little bit more. 514 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: I'm Kia Davis filling in for Tony Kats and you're 515 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: listening to Tony Kats today, Well, come back, everybody too, 516 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: Tony Kats today, this Monday morning, August twenty fifth, getting 517 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: your week started right. Tony's not here today but he'll 518 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: be back. He's out there serving the community. Today. I'm 519 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: Kia Davis sitting in for TONI. You can look me 520 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: up on the AX at Real Kia Davis. Go find 521 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: my podcast. Just listen to yourself with Kiara Davis. We're 522 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: talking about the flag burning band. A lot of conservatives, 523 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: particularly up in arms. I haven't even really I haven't 524 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: gone over to Blue Sky yet. I'll do that in 525 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: the next break. I opened a Blue Sky account of 526 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: if you don't know what Blue Sky is. Blue Sky 527 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: is the liberal alternative to X when Elon bought X 528 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: and they all had their temper tantons and we're going 529 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: to take our ball and go somewhere else. So they 530 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: went to Blue Sky, and oh boy. I opened an 531 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: account recently because I wanted to see what they were 532 00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: saying about something I can't even remember. And oh my goodness, 533 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: ten minutes over there, it's insane. It's clown town over 534 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: there they are, so I don't know what the liberals 535 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: are saying. This is more conservatives are more upset about 536 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: this than anything. But this just dropped. I don't have 537 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: to clip and I'll just read the post to you. 538 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: This dropped from town Hall again, as I'm on radio, 539 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: the Trump and his team, they're still talking in the 540 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: White House. Stephen Miller says that criminals in DC were 541 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: doing business directly with foreign terrorists organizations. This is a quote. 542 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: Not only was the city being run by these criminal thugs, 543 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: but they were working with some of the most dangerous 544 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: terrorist organizations on the planet to traffic weapons and drugs 545 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: into the city. And then the top comment right underneath 546 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: that is, in Chicago, the cartels work directly with the 547 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: aldermen and city officials to facilitate arm sales into the city. 548 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: For example, Representative Chi Garcia is a cartel member currently 549 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: in Congress. This is the crisis in Chicago. I can 550 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: tell you that it is the same way in Los Angeles. 551 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, just a few weeks ago, 552 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: a Los Angeles councilwoman got caught I think she's an 553 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: Assembly representative got caught. A Latino. A Latina got caught 554 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: asking the gangs, where are you come out here and fight? 555 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: Ice telling the gang to me that says she has 556 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: communication with the gangs. Do you see what I'm saying? 557 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: Y'all are worried about? Is this a free speech violation? 558 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: Which Trump is not going to do because he's got 559 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: lawyers and he knows what he can get away with 560 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: him what he can't. Y'all are so worried about that, 561 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: you're not thinking about that. Trump knows stuff that we 562 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: don't know. Steven Miller, just what he just said is huge. 563 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: Do you guys understand You might know it intellectually, you 564 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: might know it in your spirit because you walk around 565 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: your city and you see and you're like, yeah, these 566 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: people have to be working with gangs. For a government 567 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: official to say it, that is a big deal. Do 568 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: you understand that? That is what is going on in 569 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: our cities? When you look around at our American cities 570 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: and you go, what is going on? Why is every 571 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:15,439 Speaker 1: city so crazy? Yes, it's progressive leaders, but also it's 572 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: because they are Every major American city is owned by 573 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 1: the cartels or a foreign terrorist organization or both. This 574 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: is war. This is war. I don't think I don't 575 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: think people get it. Yet Trump gets it. That's why 576 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: he won. And I'm not trying to be I know, 577 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 1: I sound like a Maga influencer here. I'm not trying 578 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: to be super Maga. Oh Trump can do no wrong. 579 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: I really am not, I promise you. I am trying 580 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: to be objective as possible because I do understand that 581 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: there is a danger of us over correcting here and 582 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: creating more problems for ourselves down the road. But I 583 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: actually don't have any control over that. But I do 584 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: like what I'm seeing because I do think America is 585 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 1: that critical mass and it is going to take some 586 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: bold action. And I don't think Americans understand how close 587 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: we came to dying, how close this country came to ending. 588 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: Terrorists are in control of our major American cities. We're 589 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: about to put a socialist, a communist, in charge of 590 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: New York City. So yeah, the President Dan weilbetter used 591 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 1: every tool available to him, and he is, and that's 592 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: why I'm excited about this, and that's why I fully 593 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: support it. All Right, when we come back after the break, 594 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 1: we're going to talk California. I'll fill you in on 595 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: what's going on here. You won't want to miss it. 596 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: I'm Kiara Davis filling in for Tony Katz, and you're 597 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: listening to Tony Katz today.