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<v Speaker 1>And with that, welcome to the first of our five

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<v Speaker 1>guests that join us on the Andy Moore Automotive Group Hotline.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be Day First.

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<v Speaker 1>You know him and love him from his tenure at

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<v Speaker 1>Channel six obviously these days in the VP of Communications

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<v Speaker 1>role for Indy Car, and he joins us. Now, Dave, Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>I hear you have a new car that's worth bragging about.

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<v Speaker 3>It sounds like Bob Barker.

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<v Speaker 4>Come on down.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, got a new car.

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<v Speaker 1>The sticker price a little more, sticker price a little

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<v Speaker 1>more than what Bob would.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about on the show back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you could deal with some rain, maybe not

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<v Speaker 1>as much rain as you had to. Overall, how the weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>Go, I would say it went pretty well. Granted I'm

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<v Speaker 3>coming to you from a private pretty much a biased opinion,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know, Saturday, I leave it up to the drivers, right.

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<v Speaker 3>And then two things when it comes to that, we

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<v Speaker 3>could go ask Friday when they first saw the new

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<v Speaker 3>NTT Indy Car Series car that will debut in twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty eight, IR twenty eight, that's what we're calling it,

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<v Speaker 3>IR Indie Racing, Mendi Car Racing twenty eight. The first

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<v Speaker 3>time a lot of the drivers saw it in person

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<v Speaker 3>at the Delara facility in Speedway and you would have

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<v Speaker 3>thought that, you know, you literally it was called Christmas morning.

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<v Speaker 3>These guys are walking in, could not you know, wait

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<v Speaker 3>to get in the car. They were super excited to

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<v Speaker 3>see it, impressed with the way it looks. And then

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<v Speaker 3>Saturday Alexander Rossi had a chance to get in it

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<v Speaker 3>for a couple hours. We're kind of dodging the rain drops,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know, he turned on almost forty laps in

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<v Speaker 3>the car and you know, Rake, I know you've been

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<v Speaker 3>around Alexander Rossi. How many times have you seen Rossie

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<v Speaker 3>smile about right?

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<v Speaker 1>He thought exactly a giddy sort of fella, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>get that correct?

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<v Speaker 3>Correct. So he got out of the car and then

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<v Speaker 3>caught up with the media afterwards. I mean, he couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>have been more complimentary of the car build obviously, of

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<v Speaker 3>the goals that Breay collaboratively speaking, the drivers were all

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<v Speaker 3>involved in, so they all knew that, but just to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to drive the car for the first time,

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<v Speaker 3>to feel it for the first time. He had a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of really nice things to say about what the

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty eight car is going to look like, and

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<v Speaker 3>then yesterday Alex Palou had an opportunity to get in

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<v Speaker 3>the car again turned about forty laptures so all of

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<v Speaker 3>it was in the wet though, so he had set

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<v Speaker 3>of Firestone firehawks on burned through those. I mean, those

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<v Speaker 3>things basically looked like slicks by the time he was

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<v Speaker 3>done with them. But he too, I think he came

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<v Speaker 3>out and said, guys, they have an announcement to make.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to be raising the new car next year,

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<v Speaker 3>which so I mean, it's very rare when you get

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<v Speaker 3>all the drivers to say nice things about anyone or anything.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, right now they're in love with the car,

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<v Speaker 3>and for good reason too. It's been a great start

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<v Speaker 3>to this or twenty eighth the era, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So with that, obviously, I know the last new

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<v Speaker 1>car was twenty twelve. How long has the the R

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<v Speaker 1>and D process been going to get us to this

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<v Speaker 1>point where at least the car made it's on track

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<v Speaker 1>debut this weekend. When did truly this process start to

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<v Speaker 1>get us here?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean it's been a couple of years really,

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<v Speaker 3>from drawings to concept to you know, what do you

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<v Speaker 3>hope to accomplish with a new car? What's what's the

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<v Speaker 3>next step. You know, then you got to work to

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<v Speaker 3>get partners involved and then their supplier partners, some of

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<v Speaker 3>which are brand new to IndyCar, that are involved in

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<v Speaker 3>this car. So it's not an overnight process whatsoever. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I know fans probably would would have loved to have

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<v Speaker 3>seen something new a little bit before.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>I get that. I think we all get that. But

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<v Speaker 3>it is a process and the result of which, again

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<v Speaker 3>to the drivers and a lot of the supplier partners

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<v Speaker 3>that have been involved with than a lot of our

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<v Speaker 3>aerodynamsis and the engineers on the IndyCar side, on the

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<v Speaker 3>Dollara side, everyone's you know, very bullish about what they've created.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>So the next obviously you're a little busy the next

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<v Speaker 1>five weekends, uh, six races and five weekends to close

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<v Speaker 1>out the schedule with the fort just a tad uh

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<v Speaker 1>and the weekend off got canceled for the best reason

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<v Speaker 1>possible to race around the streets of our of our

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<v Speaker 1>nation's capital. What is likely the next on track activity

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<v Speaker 1>for the IR twenty eight Well.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a great question. So because all of Palo's running

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<v Speaker 3>on Sunday was basically in wet weather, conditions. We've convinced him.

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<v Speaker 3>And the nice thing is he lives in Idianapolis. We've

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<v Speaker 3>convinced him for a couple of hours tomorrow afternoon in

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<v Speaker 3>the dry so obviously you see the weather forecast, we're

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<v Speaker 3>good to go for the next couple of days. And

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<v Speaker 3>so he's actually going to be back in the car

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<v Speaker 3>from five to seven tomorrow afternoon on the on the

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<v Speaker 3>Indianapolis Motors Feedway road course, and which is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be open to the fans. If you get come down

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<v Speaker 3>you want to hang out and turn two on the

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<v Speaker 3>mounds like May did over the weekend, there's an opportunity

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<v Speaker 3>to do that as well. And you don't have to

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<v Speaker 3>bring an umbrella.

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<v Speaker 1>Knock on wood, yes, get good to know, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So with that, that's go ahead, go ahead. I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say, with with the you and I are not

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<v Speaker 1>are broadcasters, not engineers, so I understand there might be

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<v Speaker 1>a hand raiser an asterisk.

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<v Speaker 4>Here.

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<v Speaker 1>Explain as best you can the differences in this car

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<v Speaker 1>compared to what you are currently racing now and have

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<v Speaker 1>been racing for the last decade plus.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, the thing about the DW twelve is

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<v Speaker 3>that over the years, you know, the engineers and the

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<v Speaker 3>Arrow guys have just kept adding some things onto the car,

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<v Speaker 3>whether it's the aero screen, which you know, Jay Fry,

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<v Speaker 3>who was the IndyCar president at the time, decided to

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<v Speaker 3>kind of implement that program, and good on him because

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<v Speaker 3>it has really made it difference in the safety of

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<v Speaker 3>these NDT Intercurse series cars. So you to add the

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<v Speaker 3>aero screen, you add some of the side impact structure structures,

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<v Speaker 3>you add the hybrid system as well, all that after

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<v Speaker 3>a while you keep adding more and more weight. So

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<v Speaker 3>what this car has done automatically is and the engineers

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<v Speaker 3>have been very thoughtful in all this, is taking weight off.

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<v Speaker 3>So the new car weighs approximately one hundred pounds less

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<v Speaker 3>than the current car. That's good. The power to weight

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<v Speaker 3>ratio is much more in the favor now of drivers,

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<v Speaker 3>so they can really push these cars beginning in twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty eight and beyond. So with the safety aspects as good,

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<v Speaker 3>if not better than the current car. You've got a

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<v Speaker 3>different engine, different power train, and two point four liters

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<v Speaker 3>so just a little bit more horsepower. Then at that point,

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<v Speaker 3>what are you going to be talking about. You're talking

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<v Speaker 3>about maybe the opportunity to break some track records at

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<v Speaker 3>these including the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. And you know, as

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<v Speaker 3>much as I love Ari Leindyke, it's been a few

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<v Speaker 3>years now since Ari broke the track record at Eddie

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<v Speaker 3>Applismatters Speedway. So you know, in the coming years, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not promising. No one in this building's promising twenty twenty eight,

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<v Speaker 3>But in the coming years, I think you'll be looking

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<v Speaker 3>at an opportunity to break track records at eid Aplismatterspeedway

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<v Speaker 3>as well as the other circuits that the series goes on.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's it's just there are some other handling characteristics

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<v Speaker 3>for the car that the drivers really like. There's a

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<v Speaker 3>new damper system, new shock system that all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 3>Rossi and Palo both said it feels smoother in the car,

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<v Speaker 3>so that was another goal. The driver ability, the raceability

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<v Speaker 3>of these cars are changing a little bit, so you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the overall goal is to take what we think is

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<v Speaker 3>a really good racing product on the track and try

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<v Speaker 3>to make it even better. So far, so good. When

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to.

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<v Speaker 1>That again, I'm not sure if that voice the int

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<v Speaker 1>an introduction day first VP communications of India are obviously

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<v Speaker 1>long time sportscaster and television voice of WRTV Channel six

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<v Speaker 1>joining us here, It's the ride without JMB Greg Reikshaw

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<v Speaker 1>filling in ninety three to five and one seven to

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<v Speaker 1>five the fan. Let's now get to the present day again.

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<v Speaker 1>Six races, five weeks and I look forward to every

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<v Speaker 1>weekend on the Indy Car Circuit. And you know that's

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<v Speaker 1>a legitimate statement. I'm not trying to bypass Portland or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a new venue for your guys on the

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<v Speaker 1>outskirts of Toronto in Markham. But there is this thing

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<v Speaker 1>called racing around our nation's capital that you guys will

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<v Speaker 1>be doing in two and a half weeks. Race on

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty third. Just your thoughts on the opportunity presented

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<v Speaker 1>of the series to race in downtown Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 1>To celebrate America's two hundred and fiftieth birthday.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and let's let's be upfront about that. The purpose

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<v Speaker 3>of Indiecar going to Washington, d C. For the freedom

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<v Speaker 3>to fifty Grand Prio at Washington, d C. Is that

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<v Speaker 3>that is what this is all about, is celebrating America

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<v Speaker 3>as a two hundred and fiftieth birthday, and it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be everything I've heard on the planning side it's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be nuts. Fox is going to come on.

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<v Speaker 3>They're going to do about an hour and a half

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<v Speaker 3>long pre race show leading into the broadcast, which will

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<v Speaker 3>happen about one o'clock on that Sunday. I've been told

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<v Speaker 3>there are more flyovers than any race in the history

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<v Speaker 3>of automobile world. So maybe a little hyperbole there, but it's,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's everything that you think a race like

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<v Speaker 3>this in Washington, d C is going to be all about.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's going to be a little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>that and more. Again, Fox broadcast is going to be

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<v Speaker 3>on top of it, as they've been for the last

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<v Speaker 3>year and a half. I think the racing product is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be pretty good. I think you're in the

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<v Speaker 3>next hour or so you're going to hear about increasing

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<v Speaker 3>some of the lap count for the DC race, that

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<v Speaker 3>we can hit that two hundred and fifty mile an

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<v Speaker 3>hour spot as well. So it's going to be it's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be phenomenal and it ends in the heart

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<v Speaker 3>of the championship chase right for the twenty twenty six championship,

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<v Speaker 3>although Alex Pollow hopes it's not a part of that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know it doesn't heat up when it comes to

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<v Speaker 3>the championship for him, but it's going to be a

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<v Speaker 3>stretch for sure, and DC is going to be one

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<v Speaker 3>of those highlights.

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<v Speaker 1>I realized it's a fair statement to say, hey, let's

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<v Speaker 1>complete the first one before we talk about a second one.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is just nobody's listen. This is two old

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<v Speaker 1>friends talking. What do you think the likely of going

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<v Speaker 1>back to d C again next year might be?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we keep calling it at first of its kind

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<v Speaker 3>race in d C, and I think when it comes

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<v Speaker 3>to the way it looks this year, certainly it is that.

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<v Speaker 3>Now whether or not you know there's an opportunity down

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<v Speaker 3>the road to do something more in DC, we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to see. I do know the Mayor's office has been

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<v Speaker 3>extremely helpful in putting this together. They've fallen in love

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<v Speaker 3>with the NTT IndyCar series, So we'll see. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>no promises, but it's been a really good collaborative event

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<v Speaker 3>to put on. Or it's certainly the folks at the

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<v Speaker 3>White House or the Mayor's Office, we've all been incredibly

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<v Speaker 3>pleased by the way this thing's coming together. So we'll see.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's the honest answer. There Greg.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, normally when I see Dave, it's not like the

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<v Speaker 1>Motor Speedway because he's like busy and I'm kind of busy.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold up of somewhere in the pagoda as well. Our

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<v Speaker 1>offices are on different floors. You just had a Carmel

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<v Speaker 1>sporting event, so I know you're spoken for the next

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<v Speaker 1>five weekends. I assume the next time on Will See

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<v Speaker 1>You will be for Pike Carmel week four September the eleventh,

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<v Speaker 1>sometime around there.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, there's a Yeah, there's a good champ. I've got

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<v Speaker 3>two now at Carmel High School, so and I've got

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<v Speaker 3>one that's on the dance team as well. So yes,

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<v Speaker 3>it's always funny to see you at Carmel football games

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<v Speaker 3>and Krmel basketball games are My question for you is

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<v Speaker 3>who's going to be hot right now in six A football?

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<v Speaker 3>Keeping an eye on Kyle.

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<v Speaker 2>Nett and Ripple.

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<v Speaker 1>Join me at four o'clock because today is the first

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<v Speaker 1>day of practice. But I will repeat what I said

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<v Speaker 1>to start the show this. I use the word giddy

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<v Speaker 1>about Alexander Ross, which doesn't go together. I think there

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<v Speaker 1>are six potential state championship teams in six A locally,

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<v Speaker 1>this year, Carmel being one of them. That's how good

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<v Speaker 1>I think six A football is locally. So I'm fired

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<v Speaker 1>up for the start of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>How about that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be a good season. It's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>a good basketball season. And look forward to seeing you

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<v Speaker 3>at the Carmel games and other high school games around

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<v Speaker 3>the area as well. The countdown is on. I love

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<v Speaker 3>this time of year. Greg, I know you do too.

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<v Speaker 1>You got it, buddy, Thanks the time. I appreciate you anytime.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, you sound good. Have a great day.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks brother Dave.

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<v Speaker 1>First again, VP communication VINDI kard again. He just broke

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<v Speaker 1>a little news. Maybe he was already out on social

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<v Speaker 1>But in case you missed it, and in case you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to fight the rain showers the last couple

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<v Speaker 1>of days, they're going to give Alex Poalow another go

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<v Speaker 1>in the IR twenty eight tomorrow from five till seven,

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<v Speaker 1>and the same south end spectator mounds, the track that

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<v Speaker 1>are normally open are going to be open. IndyCar fans,

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<v Speaker 1>gear heads, there's like a Ferris Bueller rant that I

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<v Speaker 1>could launch into. Johnny better at that than me. You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have a chance to see Alex in the New

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<v Speaker 1>Car again tomorrow from five until seven. Soccer Saturday this

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<v Speaker 1>week had a little bit of tape as like all

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<v Speaker 1>of it the indye eleven and Caleb knows as well.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if Eddie Garrison has got a senior from

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<v Speaker 1>his days of hosting Soccer Saturday, maybe it's Caleb.

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<v Speaker 2>Zuvert is really really what.

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<v Speaker 1>His uh what his name should be as we try

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<v Speaker 1>to give everybody a one name, pronounce it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there was Zada, now there's Zuvert. That's the way this

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<v Speaker 1>works from a soccer standpoint. But the India have been

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<v Speaker 1>played Friday night nine o'clock in San Antonio. They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>play very well. They got beat three to one by

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<v Speaker 1>San Antonio. But I gave coach McCauley, who is an

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<v Speaker 1>absolute champ and an absolute pro. Hey, Bud, I can

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<v Speaker 1>call you right after them and we'll knock this out

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<v Speaker 1>because they're like flying back at nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Am from San Antonio.

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<v Speaker 1>Said, or I can call you like at seven thirty

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning, which I think is like six thirty

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<v Speaker 1>Central time. Which one do you want to go is

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<v Speaker 1>call me after the match. So literally fifteen minutes after

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<v Speaker 1>the match is over, I'm knocking out that interview, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pointing. So those of you that are watching, Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in a studio that's over there. And as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as I walk in and do I see it's Mick

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<v Speaker 1>Tendrow doing Fever coverage because they had the late night

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<v Speaker 1>game on Friday night in Portland.

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<v Speaker 2>Who joins us?

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<v Speaker 1>Now you don't have your fancy reading glasses on for

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<v Speaker 1>the zoom cameras, Mick, I don't.

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<v Speaker 6>Greg.

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<v Speaker 7>I appreciate you having me on, but I'm just wondering,

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<v Speaker 7>what would my name be if you're going through these

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<v Speaker 7>different names?

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<v Speaker 6>How we sizing this one out to Dronius.

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<v Speaker 2>They're a little doubt about that.

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<v Speaker 3>I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll print I'll print the ball State women's soccer jersey

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<v Speaker 1>for you with your name on it, the whole nine yards.

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<v Speaker 1>How late were you in here Friday night into Saturday morning?

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<v Speaker 7>It was probably one thirty by the time we walked out,

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<v Speaker 7>So nothing too late, to be honest, Greg, for a

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<v Speaker 7>game that started that late.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we call a cults postgame show. For those

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<v Speaker 1>night games, I get to avoid that in the preseason.

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<v Speaker 1>We only have a couple of night games this year.

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<v Speaker 1>But for the Week two game against the Chiefs, and

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<v Speaker 1>for the Thursday night game against the Texans, that is

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<v Speaker 1>a two thirty sign off that I get to have

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<v Speaker 1>on those nights.

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<v Speaker 6>At least it's not three o'clock.

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<v Speaker 1>It's true, although I tell you the one time that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, we're frankly going to completely miss our window

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't care was Peyton's comeback game in twenty thirteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and we could have taken phone callers. So the morning

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<v Speaker 1>Shore started at six am, people would have still called

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<v Speaker 1>the show. But that's a different time and a different day,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. Fever lose yesterday to the Lanks. Again, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no shame in that. Minnesota is clearly the best team

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<v Speaker 1>in the league. What do the Fever learn from that

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<v Speaker 1>the next time those two teams cross paths?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, Greg, I think that's a really good question, and

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<v Speaker 7>ultimately one if there's a way to slow down on

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<v Speaker 7>what the Links are doing offensively, which is really tough

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<v Speaker 7>to do, the best way to do it is to

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<v Speaker 7>try and score more points than them, it sounds like,

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<v Speaker 7>but at the end of the day, with what the

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<v Speaker 7>Fevers saw on that first game, I truly think it

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<v Speaker 7>comes down to just seeing what they can do to

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<v Speaker 7>stop everybody outside of Olivia Miles, because Miles was going

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<v Speaker 7>to get her points regardless of what else happened. So

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<v Speaker 7>the supporting cast around here her around her also did

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<v Speaker 7>really well. So what can everybody else do to slow

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<v Speaker 7>the rest of the core down?

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<v Speaker 6>For the Links?

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<v Speaker 7>And the Links are really just stout offensively and defensively.

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<v Speaker 7>Gregar the second best offense and defense, the league best record.

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<v Speaker 7>All that indicates that. So I think for the last

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<v Speaker 7>two games that they'll play them, which is ironically the

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<v Speaker 7>last two games of the regular season in late September,

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<v Speaker 7>there's a lot of time to let this marinate. And Briagos,

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<v Speaker 7>who's the analyst for the radio network, had said something

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<v Speaker 7>I think that will resonate the fever. Who they are

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<v Speaker 7>today against Minnesota won't be the same tenate they'll be

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<v Speaker 7>at the end of September against Minnesota. So curious to

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<v Speaker 7>see what those adjustments look like. But for me, it's

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<v Speaker 7>really just continuing to see how they can try to

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<v Speaker 7>slow down that supporting cast of Minnesota and Mick.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's be honest what it's worth.

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<v Speaker 1>The Links are so far out in front those last

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<v Speaker 1>two games, probably you are not going to see their regulars.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe in one of them, but probably not in both

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<v Speaker 1>of them, because they already have everything they can have

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<v Speaker 1>wrapped up wrapped up at that point in time. So

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<v Speaker 1>this may be kind of the only kind of true

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<v Speaker 1>game conditions that those two teams see each other. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not exactly breaking news that, Hey, the Fever are as

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<v Speaker 1>good to a team offensively as they might in the league. Defensively,

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<v Speaker 1>they could use some work. I pointed out a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of times trade deadlines done. You have who you have

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<v Speaker 1>on this team. How does Stephanie White's team get better

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<v Speaker 1>on the defensive end with fourteen games in the regular

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<v Speaker 1>season left to go.

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<v Speaker 6>Greg, I really think some of this comes down to

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<v Speaker 6>pace of place.

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<v Speaker 7>So when you look at the defensive numbers against the Fever,

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<v Speaker 7>some of it has to do with the pace of

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<v Speaker 7>which Indiana is playing on offense, or the highest scoring

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<v Speaker 7>team in the league, they have the bickest pace out

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<v Speaker 7>of anybody. I think part of it has to do

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<v Speaker 7>with the pace of play, But everything else I think

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<v Speaker 7>is just continuing to off of made shots.

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<v Speaker 6>And Coach White talk about this too. Off of made shots.

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<v Speaker 7>Can they go back and get back on defense faster

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<v Speaker 7>or trying to slow things down for that, and I

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<v Speaker 7>think that's probably the biggest key outside of the pace

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<v Speaker 7>of play, because Indiana's not afraid within the first six

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<v Speaker 7>seven seconds to go out and get a shot. Kelsey

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<v Speaker 7>Mitchell drives down the lane, passes out hit somebody. So

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<v Speaker 7>I think the pace has something to do with it.

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<v Speaker 7>But at the end of the day, yeah, off of

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<v Speaker 7>made shots, what does that defense settle back into You.

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<v Speaker 1>Used to seeing athletics at a pretty high level, doing

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<v Speaker 1>the ball state games for a variety of sports. You

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<v Speaker 1>and I had a version of this conversation right as

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<v Speaker 1>you were kind of getting started doing this back in May.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that we're three months in, what is it like

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<v Speaker 1>to be you don't travel road with the team, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're at every home game. What's it like to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of have a front row seat to the show that

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<v Speaker 1>is Indiana Fever basketball.

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<v Speaker 7>Greg gets an honor like, it's so much fun just

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<v Speaker 7>to be in the middle of it. Seventeen thousand plus

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<v Speaker 7>at game Bridge every home game, and the focus, the

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<v Speaker 7>energy that the sound of a game day is remarkable.

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<v Speaker 7>So it's been gratifying and it's been it's been really

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<v Speaker 7>cool just to meet so many people within the circles

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<v Speaker 7>of the Indiana Fever Pacers, Sports Entertainment, the crew with

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<v Speaker 7>you at the.

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<v Speaker 6>Fan and everybody within the radio network.

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<v Speaker 7>It's it's been awesome to engage with the fans and

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<v Speaker 7>see what being inside the WNBA looks like in this capacity.

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<v Speaker 6>So very grateful for it.

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<v Speaker 7>And I've learned that the passion is it runs really deep,

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<v Speaker 7>and people care and they want to see this Fever

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<v Speaker 7>team grow and succeed. And hey, Greg, they're right there

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<v Speaker 7>again with four thirteen games left in the regular season,

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<v Speaker 7>which is hard to believe. At this point, they still

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<v Speaker 7>have a chance to go see some home games, which

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<v Speaker 7>is which is really exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>People aren't tuning in the listening to United discuss politics.

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<v Speaker 1>There's other outlets for this, So I guess I will

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<v Speaker 1>couch this question this way. Clearly, there's more than just

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<v Speaker 1>basketball that gets asked at postgame press conferences. There's more

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<v Speaker 1>than just basque ball that shows up in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>fans in the arena, out of the arena, around Caitlin Clark,

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<v Speaker 1>around Sophie Cunningham, or around the league in general at

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<v Speaker 1>these days. How has this group done? And I would

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<v Speaker 1>say about their record, they've done a pretty good job

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<v Speaker 1>so far. How has this group done in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>kind of putting the distractions to one side and just

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<v Speaker 1>focusing on playing the game when it comes to tip time.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it sounds like just from what they talk about

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<v Speaker 7>and how they operate, they make sure the basketball is

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<v Speaker 7>the main focus within the locker room. And Kelsey Mitchell

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<v Speaker 7>is kind of the perfect example of the person who says,

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<v Speaker 7>all I is ball, all I want to talk his

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<v Speaker 7>ball and just be about basketball. And obviously she's working

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<v Speaker 7>on our PhD as well, so that's an added thing

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<v Speaker 7>for her right now. But at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 7>it seems like the locker room and the team and

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<v Speaker 7>the camaraderie has it focused on let's make sure we're

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<v Speaker 7>taking care of basketball and lean into that as much

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<v Speaker 7>as possible. So I think, Greg, I think they're just

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<v Speaker 7>going back to whatever is happening outside is outside, and

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<v Speaker 7>they've stuck to the inside inside basketball right now.

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<v Speaker 1>The Fever's a nice side hustle summer gig for you.

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<v Speaker 1>My guess is that shirt's got a ball State logo

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<v Speaker 1>on it somewhere does as the ball State season is

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<v Speaker 1>about to begin, looking forward to Ohio State coming up in.

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<v Speaker 2>A few weeks.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, man, can you believe that we are almost thirty

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<v Speaker 7>days to kick off where the Cardinals at Schumann Stadium

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<v Speaker 7>nicknamed the Shoe as well, we'll go to the other

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<v Speaker 7>Shoe in Columbus. So it's exciting that we're almost thirty

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<v Speaker 7>days out in camp.

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<v Speaker 6>Can you believe this? Greg camp starts on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh yeah, so we're right there to where we'll be

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<v Speaker 7>talking fall camp and football coverage every single day. So

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<v Speaker 7>really excited to see what it brings. But man, oh man,

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<v Speaker 7>I can't believe it. Once you get to about mid July,

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<v Speaker 7>the itch to have football season returning hits very quickly.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know if you've got that, but I had

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<v Speaker 7>it pretty early in July this year, and now we're

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<v Speaker 7>getting close.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a weekend off more or less this week,

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<v Speaker 1>and even though I saw you here working like an

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<v Speaker 1>eleven thirty.

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<v Speaker 6>On f you were off that week.

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<v Speaker 2>In my mind, that's an off weekend. Yeah. I'm ready

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<v Speaker 2>for football. I'm there and I've had the pleasure.

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<v Speaker 1>Not as much as you, but I've been around coach Yremovich,

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<v Speaker 1>big fan of him, so I know good things there.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get to Chris kpco just because you and I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't had this conversation, and let's the proof is in

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<v Speaker 1>the putting two or three months from now. Early impressions

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<v Speaker 1>the new ball State men's basketball coach.

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<v Speaker 6>He's been fantastic.

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<v Speaker 7>Greg come in in job of focusing on the community,

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<v Speaker 7>the recruiting side of things, and building a squad that

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<v Speaker 7>fits the modern day of college basketball. And one thing

0:22:35.320 --> 0:22:38.720
<v Speaker 7>that really sticks out is he's still in players, Greg,

0:22:38.760 --> 0:22:41.040
<v Speaker 7>and that's pretty late in the process, but he just

0:22:41.040 --> 0:22:44.159
<v Speaker 7>signed somebody from I played at USC and vayderbuilt in

0:22:44.160 --> 0:22:47.960
<v Speaker 7>the past six foot nine athleticism and length and was

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<v Speaker 7>a part of gold medal teams and playing with other groups.

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<v Speaker 6>So I think when you look at what he's built.

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<v Speaker 7>And the staff that he's compiled, it's a very unique

0:22:57.960 --> 0:23:00.600
<v Speaker 7>group and one that I think will will have really

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<v Speaker 7>good athleticism on the wings. How do you live to

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<v Speaker 7>a school of the basketball and everybody wants to play fast,

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<v Speaker 7>But can you build a roster that's conducive to that?

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<v Speaker 6>I think coach CapCo has done it.

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<v Speaker 7>But more so than anything else, there's the way he's

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<v Speaker 7>embraced the community. There was a meet and greet event

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<v Speaker 7>with him a couple of weeks ago within the community

0:23:18.160 --> 0:23:20.399
<v Speaker 7>and at the Cardinal Varsity Club, and what he talked

0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:23.760
<v Speaker 7>about there was trying to build a roster that the

0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:27.080
<v Speaker 7>community is proud of, and roster that will make ball

0:23:27.119 --> 0:23:29.000
<v Speaker 7>State fans proud every time to step out there. And

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<v Speaker 7>one thing that you hear when you're talking to people

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<v Speaker 7>in the college basketball world is what kind of a

0:23:36.400 --> 0:23:39.160
<v Speaker 7>person coach Kapco is and how he knows everybody.

0:23:39.320 --> 0:23:40.280
<v Speaker 6>Greg go Sheriff's story.

0:23:40.280 --> 0:23:43.400
<v Speaker 7>We did around the world segments with our basketball team,

0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:46.560
<v Speaker 7>and you'll learn something about the journey for each of

0:23:46.560 --> 0:23:47.280
<v Speaker 7>these players.

0:23:47.520 --> 0:23:48.080
<v Speaker 6>Well one of them.

0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:51.560
<v Speaker 7>kJ Parker transfers in from UMass knows the Mac pretty well,

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<v Speaker 7>but he knows Coach CapCo better. He's like, basically, I

0:23:54.080 --> 0:23:55.560
<v Speaker 7>came out of the womb and Coach Kapko is a

0:23:55.560 --> 0:23:57.439
<v Speaker 7>part of my life and now he's coaching him at

0:23:57.480 --> 0:24:00.880
<v Speaker 7>the collegiate level. So when you have dictions like that

0:24:00.880 --> 0:24:03.399
<v Speaker 7>that have stayed in touch and now come full circle

0:24:03.480 --> 0:24:06.480
<v Speaker 7>and you're getting a sharpshooter in within the conference to

0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:09.120
<v Speaker 7>transfer to your school, that's going to make a difference.

0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:11.680
<v Speaker 7>He just has that type of relationship with every single

0:24:11.680 --> 0:24:15.080
<v Speaker 7>player he's brought in and Aaron Fine transferring from produced

0:24:15.119 --> 0:24:18.520
<v Speaker 7>set at best. He and his staff vetted every single

0:24:18.560 --> 0:24:21.119
<v Speaker 7>player like it not just like okay, what do you

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<v Speaker 7>want this, this, and this, It's like we're vetting you

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<v Speaker 7>as the person first, and then go down the list

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<v Speaker 7>of all right, we'll see about scholarships, payments, all this

0:24:30.119 --> 0:24:32.560
<v Speaker 7>different stuff. It's vetting them as a person first. That

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<v Speaker 7>I found that very unique, and Coach Kapko has made

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<v Speaker 7>sure that he's held to that from day one, and

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<v Speaker 7>I think.

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<v Speaker 6>It's already starting to show within the players he's brought in.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, fine thing Fororey. Let you go.

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<v Speaker 1>I have attended many football games at Shuman's name over

0:24:44.600 --> 0:24:48.160
<v Speaker 1>the years. I have never broadcast a game at the Shoe.

0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:51.960
<v Speaker 1>That streak ends on remember the fourteenth with the Mo

0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Non Bell game. So I guess from a ball State perspective,

0:24:57.000 --> 0:25:01.399
<v Speaker 1>it's this unique confluence of circumstances. Normally, you're not celebrating

0:25:01.400 --> 0:25:03.560
<v Speaker 1>two schools coming to play at your place, and you're

0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:05.960
<v Speaker 1>not in it. But because of the tradition of the game,

0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:08.640
<v Speaker 1>and again because of the pause stadium construction, and we've

0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:11.680
<v Speaker 1>got midweek maction that time of year, all the boxes

0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:14.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of check what's the ball State perspective on hosting

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<v Speaker 1>that game?

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<v Speaker 7>Greg I think it's so great that have the Monon

0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:22.359
<v Speaker 7>Bell Game in Munsey for multiple reasons, but one of

0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:25.000
<v Speaker 7>them is just to showcase human stadium in Munsey, Indiana

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<v Speaker 7>to people who may not normally go to Monthly or

0:25:27.600 --> 0:25:30.600
<v Speaker 7>ball State for an event or just to see campus.

0:25:30.640 --> 0:25:32.960
<v Speaker 7>So I think first and foremost, you're bringing in a

0:25:32.960 --> 0:25:36.560
<v Speaker 7>new audience to see the greatness of the Shuman Stadium experience.

0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:39.760
<v Speaker 7>And for me, I think when you have that type

0:25:39.760 --> 0:25:41.480
<v Speaker 7>of a game and atmosphere, you can do it well.

0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:43.400
<v Speaker 7>And Ball State's going to be involved in the process

0:25:43.440 --> 0:25:45.320
<v Speaker 7>on game day to make sure that everything goes well

0:25:45.359 --> 0:25:48.040
<v Speaker 7>and puts a really good product forward. But for me,

0:25:48.080 --> 0:25:51.679
<v Speaker 7>I'm excited about that more people that haven't necessarily been

0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:55.680
<v Speaker 7>there before will get a chance to and the rivalry itself,

0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:59.480
<v Speaker 7>it speaks for what the game is and hopefully it's

0:25:59.480 --> 0:26:02.400
<v Speaker 7>a really close game and you get to call an excellent,

0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:05.080
<v Speaker 7>really good football game. But at the end of the day,

0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:07.639
<v Speaker 7>you're going to see also people from the months of

0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:09.600
<v Speaker 7>community want to go to the game as well. It's

0:26:09.640 --> 0:26:13.080
<v Speaker 7>bringing different pockets of the community of Indiana together in

0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:15.440
<v Speaker 7>a new place, in a neutral place for both of

0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:18.720
<v Speaker 7>those teams that have never experienced that before. And I

0:26:18.720 --> 0:26:21.480
<v Speaker 7>think that's I think that's a special thing. And to me,

0:26:22.320 --> 0:26:26.160
<v Speaker 7>we're all about community and to have that happen at

0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:28.920
<v Speaker 7>Ball State for a premier rivalry in the state, that's

0:26:28.960 --> 0:26:29.440
<v Speaker 7>pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>The shoe capacity is what at this point, officially, what

0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:33.320
<v Speaker 1>is the capacity?

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<v Speaker 7>You know, Greg, the Schumann Stadium capacity that I had

0:26:38.040 --> 0:26:42.920
<v Speaker 7>seen last was just over fifteen thousand. It's I think

0:26:42.920 --> 0:26:46.280
<v Speaker 7>it's teetering to sixteen if I remember correctly, So that's

0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:47.399
<v Speaker 7>about where it's at.

0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:48.080
<v Speaker 6>And I'm guessing.

0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:50.720
<v Speaker 7>I'm guessing there will be over sixteen thousand people in

0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:51.560
<v Speaker 7>the building for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, honestly that games turned about is about ten or

0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:57.920
<v Speaker 1>eleven thousand that are watching, usually in person, and then

0:26:58.240 --> 0:27:00.960
<v Speaker 1>a bigger number online. I'm kind of privy to those

0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:03.399
<v Speaker 1>numbers given what I do in my relationship to the game.

0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:04.280
<v Speaker 2>I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think that there'll be folks from you know,

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:10.000
<v Speaker 1>alums from that from the eastern part of the state

0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:12.879
<v Speaker 1>that maybe wouldn't go that normally that now will. And

0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:14.720
<v Speaker 1>I hope the folks in months you just embrace the

0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:16.359
<v Speaker 1>game and say, you know what, this is a one

0:27:16.400 --> 0:27:19.399
<v Speaker 1>time thing. This is not going to happen again. Let's

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:21.760
<v Speaker 1>go check this out. I'm hoping that is the case.

0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:23.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm up against the time. Wise, I'll let you go.

0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:26.240
<v Speaker 1>Enjoy a few days off, my friend, have fun on Thursday.

0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:27.639
<v Speaker 1>Hope our pass cross.

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<v Speaker 6>Soom, Greg.

0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:35.600
<v Speaker 7>I appreciate you. Sixteen thousand opening crowd for it when

0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:38.000
<v Speaker 7>it opened. I think it's actually over twenty two thousand. Okay,

0:27:38.320 --> 0:27:41.040
<v Speaker 7>I got my numbers mixed up. I believe what it's

0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:41.959
<v Speaker 7>twenty two thousand.

0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:44.560
<v Speaker 1>That's quite I hope we'll get somewhere between sixteen and

0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:47.320
<v Speaker 1>twenty two thousand. There you go, see it, You got it.

0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Mick teddro voice of the ball State Cardinals as well

0:27:50.080 --> 0:27:52.800
<v Speaker 1>Fever pre half in post, joining us here and doing

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:59.879
<v Speaker 1>show on the Andy Moore Automotive Group hotline. Stephen Holder

0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 1>ESPN dot com colts reporter joins us now in the

0:28:05.560 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Andy Moore Automotive Group Hotline. He's been enjoying somewhat temperate

0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:14.600
<v Speaker 1>conditions out in Westfield at the Droplight Grand Park Sports Campus,

0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:17.120
<v Speaker 1>and he joins us now, Hello, my friend, how are you.

0:28:18.359 --> 0:28:19.080
<v Speaker 4>I'm doing well.

0:28:19.960 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 5>I think I just realized that my screen protector has

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:26.399
<v Speaker 5>a crack in it. It's right by the lens. It's

0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:30.160
<v Speaker 5>right by the lens, So I probably look fractured.

0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:31.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, actually you do not.

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:34.200
<v Speaker 1>You look clear, and next to me, you're going to

0:28:34.280 --> 0:28:37.879
<v Speaker 1>look great anyway, you know, to worry about. What have

0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:41.320
<v Speaker 1>we learned through five practices in six days for the

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Indianapolis Colts so far?

0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:48.080
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, I think they are a team that

0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:53.160
<v Speaker 5>is a work in progress. But I don't think I've

0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:56.480
<v Speaker 5>seen a lot of necessarily the ball moving. I don't

0:28:56.520 --> 0:29:00.320
<v Speaker 5>mean the actual literal ball, but in terms of progress,

0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:02.800
<v Speaker 5>you know, I don't think they have moved the ball

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:06.160
<v Speaker 5>from day one to now a week later. I think

0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:10.040
<v Speaker 5>they're still trying to figure those things out. But I

0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:12.760
<v Speaker 5>think we also have seen that there is a fair

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:15.240
<v Speaker 5>amount of talent on this team. And as much as

0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:18.440
<v Speaker 5>there is a lot of pessimism, or at least I

0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 5>guess guarded optimism, extremely guarded optimism, I think there are

0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 5>reminders sometimes of like just the talent that is out there,

0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:31.000
<v Speaker 5>you know. I think a great example is Sauce Gardner,

0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:36.280
<v Speaker 5>and I don't believe we really got to appreciate this guy.

0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:36.920
<v Speaker 4>Last year.

0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:41.000
<v Speaker 5>It didn't go well because he wasn't on the field enough, right,

0:29:41.400 --> 0:29:46.400
<v Speaker 5>But I think you have seen the dominant ability of

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 5>this guy, and I think when you peer him the

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:52.600
<v Speaker 5>Shavarius Ward on the other side, that is going to

0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:55.880
<v Speaker 5>be a problem for people, I mean a real problem.

0:29:56.200 --> 0:30:00.000
<v Speaker 5>And there were instances in the last couple of practices

0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:02.440
<v Speaker 5>where you saw the quarterbacks having to hold the ball

0:30:02.440 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 5>a little bit, you know, and that is a that

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 5>is a direct correlation between those two guys. I would

0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:13.520
<v Speaker 5>say beyond that, you know, Daniel Jones, outside of having

0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:16.000
<v Speaker 5>a deal with those two guys, he seems right on

0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:18.760
<v Speaker 5>the money right now. And I think you if you're

0:30:18.840 --> 0:30:24.600
<v Speaker 5>buying Daniel Jonestock, if you bought Daniel Jonestock at any point,

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:27.480
<v Speaker 5>you probably feel pretty good about it right now right

0:30:27.520 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 5>that stocks pointing in the right direction.

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:31.880
<v Speaker 4>So those are just two examples.

0:30:31.320 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 5>But I mean I think you know, justin Wally being

0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:37.200
<v Speaker 5>another they're also you know, there are more than that,

0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:38.960
<v Speaker 5>But I think those are just a couple of examples

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:42.200
<v Speaker 5>of like, hey, there's a path to this team actually

0:30:42.640 --> 0:30:46.120
<v Speaker 5>being viable this year, but everybody's got to come through.

0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:47.160
<v Speaker 4>That's the trick, you know.

0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:50.040
<v Speaker 1>I really don't think there's all that many position battles

0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:53.360
<v Speaker 1>to be had. One of them that I think that, again,

0:30:53.520 --> 0:30:55.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if it's going to be a battle.

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:57.120
<v Speaker 1>I've kind of leaned towards the guys that were taken

0:30:57.480 --> 0:31:00.240
<v Speaker 1>early in the draft for this team is linebacker. But

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 1>as I watched today, Steven, there's a lot of rotation

0:31:02.880 --> 0:31:05.240
<v Speaker 1>in terms of and again the defense is a four

0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:07.719
<v Speaker 1>to two five, so it's two guys that we're talking about.

0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:09.800
<v Speaker 1>I guess you're your thoughts on where the coult stand

0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:10.920
<v Speaker 1>at linebacker right now?

0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:12.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:15.400
<v Speaker 5>I did notice that, you know, we saw some unfamiliar

0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 5>numbers in there at one point, you know, with the

0:31:17.360 --> 0:31:19.280
<v Speaker 5>first defense, and I was kind of like, wait, who

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 5>got out there?

0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:20.560
<v Speaker 3>Right?

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:24.640
<v Speaker 5>But I think when it's all said and done, I

0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:25.560
<v Speaker 5>still believe CJ.

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 4>Allen is there. Mike linebacker.

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 5>Part of what we have to remember because he went

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:32.840
<v Speaker 5>out there at some critical moments today, and I think

0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:35.240
<v Speaker 5>what that boils down to is they're breaking him in

0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:39.160
<v Speaker 5>slowly after coming off the pup list last week. So

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:41.960
<v Speaker 5>I at least I'm going to for now assume thats

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:45.680
<v Speaker 5>what is happening unless this continues, you know, for a

0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:48.560
<v Speaker 5>lengthy period of time. So I think that's what's happening there.

0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:51.400
<v Speaker 5>They're breaking him in slowly, he's not taking all the

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 5>first team reps. But they have been very complimentary of him,

0:31:55.680 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 5>and you don't get that from lou Anrumo very often

0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:01.160
<v Speaker 5>with young guys, and he has been in his instance.

0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 5>So I think he's progressing fine and they'll take you know,

0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:09.960
<v Speaker 5>they'll they'll they'll accept him taking his lumps from time

0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:12.520
<v Speaker 5>to time, as is always the case with rookies, but

0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 5>I think all in all they feel relatively comfortable with him.

0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:21.600
<v Speaker 5>That second spot is very much a question for me.

0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 5>I think the most interesting possibility there is Bryce Betcher, Yeah,

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:29.360
<v Speaker 5>and him getting a lot of run with the first

0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 5>team over the first week of training camp. I would

0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 5>have been shocked to see it had they not also

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:39.880
<v Speaker 5>done it in a mandatory mini camp back in June.

0:32:39.960 --> 0:32:42.560
<v Speaker 5>That's where we first saw it. And at the time

0:32:42.680 --> 0:32:45.200
<v Speaker 5>you're kind of like, well, that's interesting. I wonder if

0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:48.120
<v Speaker 5>it means anything. And now we're seeing it from time

0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:52.920
<v Speaker 5>to time again and continuously into camp, so it absolutely

0:32:52.960 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 5>means something. It absolutely means something, And I think on

0:32:56.960 --> 0:33:00.080
<v Speaker 5>day one Chris Ballard was asked like, Hey, is there

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:03.440
<v Speaker 5>a scenario where you could play two rookie linebackers, Like,

0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:07.200
<v Speaker 5>is that a little crazy? And his answer was no,

0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:10.800
<v Speaker 5>I we have done it before, so there's no.

0:33:10.840 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 4>Trepidation at all.

0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:15.480
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, I think it's very interesting and I think

0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:20.760
<v Speaker 5>that that's an interesting potential lineup and I'm gonna be

0:33:20.760 --> 0:33:24.560
<v Speaker 5>watching to see, you know, the other possibly there. They

0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:28.480
<v Speaker 5>got Davis Gaither from the Cardinals who they signed this offseason.

0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:32.640
<v Speaker 5>You know, I think when you talk about upside, the

0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:34.920
<v Speaker 5>upside is with the young guys, right, and I think

0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:38.520
<v Speaker 5>the remainder of those linebackers are guys who, you know,

0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 5>they maybe are better off as depth pieces potentially, and

0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:44.640
<v Speaker 5>they may end up being that is what I'm saying,

0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 5>So so we'll see. I think that's that is an

0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:47.640
<v Speaker 5>interesting spot for sure.

0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:49.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, we talk about like the spine of a

0:33:49.240 --> 0:33:51.880
<v Speaker 1>defense usually in baseball, you know, the battery pitcher, catcher,

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:54.680
<v Speaker 1>second basement, shortstop, center field. Well, kind of similar thing

0:33:54.720 --> 0:33:57.520
<v Speaker 1>for the Colts is not just the two rookie linebackers

0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:00.719
<v Speaker 1>probably are a rookie safety behind those guys in Hall

0:34:00.800 --> 0:34:03.440
<v Speaker 1>see and let's face it, justin Wally is going to

0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:07.120
<v Speaker 1>be the slot cornerback. He's on a rookie but he's

0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:09.200
<v Speaker 1>not played a snap in the National Football League. So

0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 1>I guess the follow up to that would be lose system.

0:34:13.640 --> 0:34:17.200
<v Speaker 1>How does that translate if you've got four guys playing

0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:19.520
<v Speaker 1>in their first NFL game that are getting to start

0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:24.520
<v Speaker 1>against the Ravens on September the thirteenth.

0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:23.520
<v Speaker 4>Hold your breath.

0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:27.560
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, okay, I do think there is that is that

0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:30.279
<v Speaker 5>is a big element that has to be considered here.

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:35.799
<v Speaker 5>Now that being said, they have clearly considered, you know,

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:39.959
<v Speaker 5>all of these things and still have decided, I think,

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:44.279
<v Speaker 5>to lean a little bit on the younger side. It's

0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:46.920
<v Speaker 5>pretty clear at this point, like it's not a you know,

0:34:46.960 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 5>it's not a situation where they are maybe you know,

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:53.279
<v Speaker 5>considering it. I mean, they got rid of a lot

0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 5>of veterans on defense, and they did this with their

0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:58.480
<v Speaker 5>eyes open, knowing, you know, we don't know who's going

0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:00.400
<v Speaker 5>to start yet, but they're going to be young. They

0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:05.600
<v Speaker 5>they committed to that, and it is a very interesting move,

0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 5>you know, with all that we think is happening here

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:10.720
<v Speaker 5>behind the scenes, with you know, the coach in GM

0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:14.840
<v Speaker 5>maybe being well not maybe, but certainly being.

0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:15.440
<v Speaker 4>On the hot seat.

0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:18.960
<v Speaker 5>And so the timing of that decision I think is

0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:23.000
<v Speaker 5>very interesting. It's bold, but I'm here for it. I mean,

0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:26.720
<v Speaker 5>I think they definitely needed to shake things up. On defense.

0:35:27.000 --> 0:35:30.160
<v Speaker 5>They were an old defense, they were slow, that was

0:35:30.200 --> 0:35:32.680
<v Speaker 5>all true. So I think they did what they had

0:35:32.719 --> 0:35:35.560
<v Speaker 5>to do. But that comes with to make some pains

0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:37.879
<v Speaker 5>when you play young guys. So I'm interested to see

0:35:37.880 --> 0:35:38.279
<v Speaker 5>how that.

0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:40.160
<v Speaker 2>Goes on the flip side. On offense.

0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:42.080
<v Speaker 1>Again, as I said, I don't think there's a position

0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:45.320
<v Speaker 1>ball on offense. There's just the one kind of overarching question,

0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:48.200
<v Speaker 1>and I understand how Alec Pierce is doing plays a

0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:51.719
<v Speaker 1>major factor in this. Is the Colts wide receiver room

0:35:51.760 --> 0:35:54.399
<v Speaker 1>that we are seeing now, is that the one we're

0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:55.719
<v Speaker 1>going to see five weeks from now?

0:35:57.480 --> 0:36:01.799
<v Speaker 5>Man well, well hopefully is obviously the addition of Peers

0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:04.960
<v Speaker 5>course soon. And I would just say before answering your

0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:09.640
<v Speaker 5>question in more detail, I asked Shan Stechin today, look,

0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:13.319
<v Speaker 5>do you have any more clarity on the return of

0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:17.640
<v Speaker 5>Alec Pears And the answer was no. And I know

0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:20.960
<v Speaker 5>he may, you know, maybe he's just kind of, you know,

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:23.360
<v Speaker 5>being a little flippant there or not, you know, not

0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:25.760
<v Speaker 5>it may not necessarily.

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:27.200
<v Speaker 4>Be a cause for alarm. I guess is what I'm saying.

0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:31.000
<v Speaker 5>However, I was hoping to hear, well, he's a little

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:32.680
<v Speaker 5>closer maybe next.

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:34.440
<v Speaker 4>Week, you know, I don't know.

0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:36.680
<v Speaker 5>We didn't get that, and hopefully it's just Shane just

0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:40.200
<v Speaker 5>doing the usual thing with injuries, like I don't know anything,

0:36:40.480 --> 0:36:41.760
<v Speaker 5>but but.

0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:44.160
<v Speaker 4>Maybe he's not. And I mean, all I can tell you.

0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:46.960
<v Speaker 5>Is back in what May or June, when we talked

0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:49.319
<v Speaker 5>to Alex Pearis about this, I.

0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:51.640
<v Speaker 4>Came away feeling like, you know, this is.

0:36:51.520 --> 0:36:54.400
<v Speaker 5>Not a small thing, right, and this is maybe a

0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:57.200
<v Speaker 5>little bit of a bigger deal than we thought. And

0:36:57.560 --> 0:37:03.160
<v Speaker 5>he allowed at that point saying that, you know, I'm probably.

0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:04.279
<v Speaker 4>Not gonna be ready to start camp. He says it's

0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:05.440
<v Speaker 4>probably gonna be a couple of weeks.

0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:10.399
<v Speaker 5>And that's from the player, and the player is always optimistic, right, right.

0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:13.880
<v Speaker 5>So we're starting week two and we have no clarity

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:16.120
<v Speaker 5>on Ali Pierce. So that alone is a big is

0:37:16.160 --> 0:37:19.720
<v Speaker 5>a big issue. Now beyond that, Josh Down's great start.

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:23.239
<v Speaker 5>He's killing it. I think he's going to have a

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:26.880
<v Speaker 5>huge year. So I feel great about that. And that's

0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:30.600
<v Speaker 5>about all I got to say about that. So because

0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:33.839
<v Speaker 5>I just I don't know how you can sleep at

0:37:33.960 --> 0:37:38.239
<v Speaker 5>night with this receiving core. It's it's not only I

0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:40.799
<v Speaker 5>think this is actually a good example of what could

0:37:40.800 --> 0:37:44.439
<v Speaker 5>happen if Downs or Pierce miss a game.

0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:47.760
<v Speaker 4>This is the lineup you're going to have. Your second

0:37:47.840 --> 0:37:48.640
<v Speaker 4>receiver at.

0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:54.720
<v Speaker 5>That point becomes Ashton Doolan, Lacwan Treadwill, Nick Westbrook, A Kine.

0:37:55.320 --> 0:37:58.520
<v Speaker 4>I mean, that's what you're talking about. And it's no.

0:37:58.520 --> 0:38:01.520
<v Speaker 5>Disrespect to any of those guys, but I mean, we

0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:05.359
<v Speaker 5>have depth charts for a reason, right and I just

0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:09.439
<v Speaker 5>think they are living very dangerously at that position. When

0:38:09.480 --> 0:38:15.680
<v Speaker 5>you have paid your quarterback eighty eight million dollars. My

0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:18.440
<v Speaker 5>reaction to that is you need to do everything you

0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:23.520
<v Speaker 5>can to ensure that that investment pays off, because otherwise,

0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:24.480
<v Speaker 5>what the hell are we doing?

0:38:24.600 --> 0:38:24.839
<v Speaker 4>Right?

0:38:25.840 --> 0:38:30.359
<v Speaker 5>And I have major, major, major questions about how they're

0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:33.640
<v Speaker 5>proceeding out wide receiver right now. The feedback I've gotten

0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:36.600
<v Speaker 5>is that we're one weekend chill out.

0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:40.919
<v Speaker 4>I disagree. I will not chill out.

0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:43.880
<v Speaker 5>I do not think it's too early, and I do

0:38:43.960 --> 0:38:48.680
<v Speaker 5>not think that I am being too much of an

0:38:48.719 --> 0:38:52.879
<v Speaker 5>alarmist on this. I think they are really flying too

0:38:52.880 --> 0:38:53.799
<v Speaker 5>close to the sun there.

0:38:53.960 --> 0:38:57.240
<v Speaker 1>What's available? How do you get help? Is it free agent,

0:38:57.480 --> 0:39:00.719
<v Speaker 1>is it trade? What are the possibility he's looking like?

0:39:01.719 --> 0:39:03.959
<v Speaker 5>Well, the trade market, I don't know what that looks

0:39:04.000 --> 0:39:06.080
<v Speaker 5>like yet. I think we we get a better sense

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:09.640
<v Speaker 5>of that once we once we see where teams are

0:39:09.680 --> 0:39:12.920
<v Speaker 5>with their with their rosters and what the numbers look like.

0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:14.759
<v Speaker 5>And I think we need to get a little bit

0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:18.560
<v Speaker 5>into the preseason maybe before we know that, but so

0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:21.960
<v Speaker 5>we'll see the trade The preseason trade market takes a

0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:25.520
<v Speaker 5>little bit to evolve sometimes, you know. But I think

0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:28.400
<v Speaker 5>there were a couple of guys that I think were

0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:31.520
<v Speaker 5>at the top of my list. One was Deebo Samuel.

0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:34.960
<v Speaker 5>He is no longer available. Correct, Okay, he's gone back

0:39:35.000 --> 0:39:37.759
<v Speaker 5>to San Francisco. I think he was a good fit

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:40.880
<v Speaker 5>for the situation because the guy you lost was Michael Pittman,

0:39:40.880 --> 0:39:44.319
<v Speaker 5>who was your physical guy, right. Deebo Samuel also a

0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:48.480
<v Speaker 5>physical guy, high injury rate with him, so I understand

0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:54.200
<v Speaker 5>the trepidation. The other I think obvious option is Keenan Allen.

0:39:54.320 --> 0:39:57.120
<v Speaker 5>I have not written that off yet. Keenan Allen and

0:39:57.160 --> 0:39:59.799
<v Speaker 5>Shane Styken have a very close relationship. It would make

0:39:59.800 --> 0:40:03.080
<v Speaker 5>sense he knows the offense. He could come in and

0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:08.480
<v Speaker 5>contribute on day one. Literally, he was much more productive

0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:12.399
<v Speaker 5>last year than I even realized. And I remember going

0:40:12.440 --> 0:40:18.080
<v Speaker 5>back recently and thinking, ah, Keenan Allen, he couldn't possibly

0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:20.759
<v Speaker 5>have done anything last year. And then I went and

0:40:20.760 --> 0:40:23.120
<v Speaker 5>I looked at it, and the guy caught like seventy balls.

0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:28.360
<v Speaker 5>So I certainly wasn't paying attention, right, And I think

0:40:28.840 --> 0:40:32.279
<v Speaker 5>what you get there is plug and play, and this

0:40:32.440 --> 0:40:36.360
<v Speaker 5>is it's not necessarily a super young group, but I

0:40:36.440 --> 0:40:39.520
<v Speaker 5>think at least you stabilize it with that veteran presence

0:40:39.520 --> 0:40:42.160
<v Speaker 5>as well, So that's a bonus. And I think you

0:40:42.239 --> 0:40:45.680
<v Speaker 5>take some of the heat off of those guys to

0:40:45.760 --> 0:40:47.960
<v Speaker 5>maybe have to play above their heads, you know, when

0:40:48.000 --> 0:40:50.800
<v Speaker 5>they're called upon. Some of those guys who are role players.

0:40:51.760 --> 0:40:55.440
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I think role players need to remain role players.

0:40:55.920 --> 0:40:58.840
<v Speaker 5>When you ask them to be more, that's when you

0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:01.799
<v Speaker 5>get in trouble. So Keenan Allen, you can ask him

0:41:01.840 --> 0:41:04.279
<v Speaker 5>to step up on in a particular Sunday and he

0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:06.480
<v Speaker 5>can handle it, right. I think that's why you do

0:41:06.520 --> 0:41:09.959
<v Speaker 5>something like that, So stay tuned. All I can say

0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:13.240
<v Speaker 5>I think they should make a move personally.

0:41:13.320 --> 0:41:16.319
<v Speaker 1>Steven Older espagn dot Com, All Things Colts, Greg Reichs

0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:18.719
<v Speaker 1>run for JMB. It's the ride on ninety three to

0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:20.480
<v Speaker 1>five and one oh seven five the fan, I said,

0:41:20.520 --> 0:41:22.520
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm not sure how many questions I

0:41:22.520 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 1>can answer this point in terms of the Colts.

0:41:24.120 --> 0:41:24.399
<v Speaker 2>I said.

0:41:24.400 --> 0:41:26.440
<v Speaker 1>The first one is I think Daniel Jones is going

0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:28.600
<v Speaker 1>to be fine, as you've touched on. I say the

0:41:28.640 --> 0:41:31.759
<v Speaker 1>other one that I'm probably maybe most certain on, I

0:41:31.800 --> 0:41:33.759
<v Speaker 1>think Seth mcgow is going to get some touches for

0:41:33.800 --> 0:41:36.200
<v Speaker 1>this football team this year, and again in part just

0:41:36.239 --> 0:41:38.960
<v Speaker 1>because you can't ask JT to play as big of

0:41:39.000 --> 0:41:41.719
<v Speaker 1>a role as you did a year ago. So let's

0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:44.600
<v Speaker 1>talk about the young kid from Kentucky and again he's

0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:46.800
<v Speaker 1>not going to split carries with JT. And he frankly,

0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:49.000
<v Speaker 1>he's not the official the number two. He and DJ

0:41:49.040 --> 0:41:52.160
<v Speaker 1>Ginz are still battling for that. What's the role you

0:41:52.160 --> 0:41:54.160
<v Speaker 1>think McGowan plays for this group this year?

0:41:54.880 --> 0:41:56.799
<v Speaker 5>Well, the first thing I would I would say is

0:41:56.840 --> 0:41:59.400
<v Speaker 5>I would add to what you just said about about JT.

0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:03.160
<v Speaker 5>It's not just last year the heavy load. It's frankly,

0:42:03.200 --> 0:42:06.040
<v Speaker 5>it's two years back back yep load. You know he

0:42:06.160 --> 0:42:10.080
<v Speaker 5>has been I believe, over three hundred carries both in

0:42:10.120 --> 0:42:13.160
<v Speaker 5>each of the last two seasons and three hundred carries.

0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:17.520
<v Speaker 5>Is is kind of the delineating line for me where when

0:42:17.560 --> 0:42:20.359
<v Speaker 5>you're past that, that's where you're getting into rare air

0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:24.200
<v Speaker 5>in terms of like mileage. And so he's done that

0:42:24.320 --> 0:42:28.480
<v Speaker 5>I think three or four times in his career.

0:42:28.239 --> 0:42:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Three so last two years three zero three and three

0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:35.560
<v Speaker 1>twenty three. His twenty twenty one season three thirty two.

0:42:35.640 --> 0:42:36.279
<v Speaker 2>So there you go.

0:42:36.760 --> 0:42:39.080
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, just about every year he's been healthy, he's done it.

0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:42.279
<v Speaker 5>And you know, it's it's a lot, I think. So

0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:45.719
<v Speaker 5>I think it's the accumulation that you're worried about. You know,

0:42:46.800 --> 0:42:49.280
<v Speaker 5>he's held out pretty well, you know, to his credit,

0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 5>but does that continue? That is a fair question. So

0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:56.359
<v Speaker 5>you are correct. They would like to get somebody going

0:42:56.440 --> 0:43:00.560
<v Speaker 5>behind him. They would like to get some you know,

0:43:00.719 --> 0:43:03.400
<v Speaker 5>just I think spelling him from time to time. And

0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:07.040
<v Speaker 5>then also like if they do get a lead here

0:43:07.040 --> 0:43:08.920
<v Speaker 5>and there, like they did last year, you want to

0:43:08.960 --> 0:43:11.640
<v Speaker 5>have somebody that can finish out the games right and

0:43:12.000 --> 0:43:15.600
<v Speaker 5>have somebody to ice it, you know, in that fourth quarter.

0:43:15.680 --> 0:43:17.560
<v Speaker 4>So I think this is an.

0:43:17.520 --> 0:43:22.560
<v Speaker 5>Important role and I do agree that seth McGowan to

0:43:22.680 --> 0:43:24.919
<v Speaker 5>me right now, he looks like the guy who has

0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:27.919
<v Speaker 5>the lead at that spot. What I love about him

0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:33.520
<v Speaker 5>is it is a north and south affair with him. Okay,

0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:36.200
<v Speaker 5>he gets the ball, he runs hard first of all,

0:43:36.360 --> 0:43:38.520
<v Speaker 5>which is kind of like, kind of important at running

0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:43.120
<v Speaker 5>back obviously, but he runs hard, but he he is

0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:45.960
<v Speaker 5>north and south. He's a determined runner, and frankly, that's

0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:47.680
<v Speaker 5>what I want for my backup running back. I want

0:43:47.680 --> 0:43:50.040
<v Speaker 5>you to just get in there and just go crazy,

0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:51.799
<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean, just make them have to

0:43:51.840 --> 0:43:54.719
<v Speaker 5>tackle you. I think that's what you want. Either that

0:43:55.000 --> 0:43:58.319
<v Speaker 5>or you want the speedster who was just the change

0:43:58.360 --> 0:44:01.280
<v Speaker 5>of paceback who was just like, you know, one cut

0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:04.279
<v Speaker 5>and just go and nobody can catch him, you know,

0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:06.000
<v Speaker 5>or scat back.

0:44:06.040 --> 0:44:08.120
<v Speaker 4>But you want a different style, right, I think you

0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:09.600
<v Speaker 4>want something of a different style now.

0:44:09.719 --> 0:44:13.520
<v Speaker 5>Jonathan Taylor certainly a physical running back, but I think

0:44:13.560 --> 0:44:16.400
<v Speaker 5>he's more of a patient running back who's who's waiting

0:44:16.440 --> 0:44:21.080
<v Speaker 5>for blocks to develop and materialize and runs in a

0:44:21.200 --> 0:44:23.800
<v Speaker 5>different manner Seth McGowan.

0:44:24.040 --> 0:44:25.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm not saying he won't do.

0:44:25.239 --> 0:44:27.800
<v Speaker 5>That, but he definitely is looking for that one crease

0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:30.400
<v Speaker 5>and is just trying to get if there's two yards there,

0:44:30.520 --> 0:44:32.680
<v Speaker 5>He's trying to get two and a half right, and

0:44:33.120 --> 0:44:36.319
<v Speaker 5>sometimes that's the job, that is the job. I don't

0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:39.760
<v Speaker 5>think they're looking for that number two spot. The Colts

0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:42.640
<v Speaker 5>aren't looking for a game breaker. They're just looking for

0:44:42.640 --> 0:44:46.799
<v Speaker 5>somebody to just get you know, positive, positive yardage right

0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:47.800
<v Speaker 5>and moved the chains.

0:44:48.360 --> 0:44:49.600
<v Speaker 4>I think Seth McGowan can do that.

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<v Speaker 5>The other thing with him so far, it looks like

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<v Speaker 5>he is up to handling himself in the passing game,

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<v Speaker 5>which is a critical part of this DJ Gidden I

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<v Speaker 5>think the first few days of camp the drops were

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<v Speaker 5>really noticeable and he did not do himself any favors there.

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<v Speaker 4>So we'll see how this goes.

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<v Speaker 5>The games will play I think a big role the

0:45:11.760 --> 0:45:12.680
<v Speaker 5>preseason games.

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<v Speaker 4>Those guys are gonna get a lot of run.

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<v Speaker 5>I'd be shocked if you see much of Jonathan Taylor

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<v Speaker 5>at all. You may not see him even once. So

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<v Speaker 5>you're going to see a lot of those guys in

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<v Speaker 5>the preseason. I'm actually looking forward to that position battle.

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<v Speaker 1>All of the questions I have asked you have been

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<v Speaker 1>about what we're going to see in the next four

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<v Speaker 1>to six weeks. The next question is who's going to

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<v Speaker 1>get paid before the season starts going into next year.

0:45:35.600 --> 0:45:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Quentin Nelson, Jonathan Taylor, Grover Stewart, Josh Downs, obviously, Anthony Richardson,

0:45:43.680 --> 0:45:46.160
<v Speaker 1>and de Forrest Buckner, who we all kind of think

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<v Speaker 1>this might be it and there's obviously an injury question

0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:52.080
<v Speaker 1>mark that kind of puts him into a different conversation.

0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:55.759
<v Speaker 1>Those are the biggest names of the many that are

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<v Speaker 1>on the last year of their deal this year for

0:45:58.280 --> 0:46:01.319
<v Speaker 1>this team. What is the likely that any of those

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<v Speaker 1>guys sign an extension before the season starts?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>A little bit of a conflicting message from Quintin Nelson.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't I think you have to interpret it. So

0:46:14.320 --> 0:46:18.920
<v Speaker 5>the other day he was asked whether whether anything's happening there,

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<v Speaker 5>but if you want to sign a contract before the

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<v Speaker 5>season and what have you. His answer was something like,

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<v Speaker 5>I have had no conversations. I leave that up to

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<v Speaker 5>my agent and hopefully they handle it. I'm not worried

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<v Speaker 5>about it. I think the word I is very key there.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't believe that the Colts have not even broached

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<v Speaker 5>the idea of a contract extension with Quentin Nelson, or

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<v Speaker 5>at least I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I choose not to believe that. Okay, That's what I

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<v Speaker 4>would say.

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<v Speaker 5>I think when he says I haven't, I think that's

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<v Speaker 5>his way of saying, I pay someone to do that

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<v Speaker 5>for me, And so I'm going to assume that is

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<v Speaker 5>what is happening there.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 5>That being said, I do think the organization is at

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<v Speaker 5>a very interesting juncture, right. We know about you know,

0:47:09.800 --> 0:47:14.080
<v Speaker 5>hot seats, and a lot of contracts are up this

0:47:14.239 --> 0:47:18.000
<v Speaker 5>coming off seasons. It's a natural reset opportunity and all that.

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<v Speaker 5>So I don't know that the Colts are eager to

0:47:22.200 --> 0:47:24.759
<v Speaker 5>go out and sign players to millions and millions of

0:47:24.760 --> 0:47:29.040
<v Speaker 5>dollars of extensions. So but I would say I say

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<v Speaker 5>all that to say, though, I still think you at

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<v Speaker 5>least try to get the deal with Quinton. I remember

0:47:36.280 --> 0:47:41.399
<v Speaker 5>the last deal he signed. It happened, I believe, very

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<v Speaker 5>late in the evening the night before the season opener,

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<v Speaker 5>which would have been I think the two thy twenty

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<v Speaker 5>two opener.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess.

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<v Speaker 5>So they've been here before, right, and they've gone right

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<v Speaker 5>down to the wire. That could happen again. Jonathan Taylor.

0:47:56.239 --> 0:47:59.000
<v Speaker 5>They have certainly gone past the wire with him right

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<v Speaker 5>than twenty three, you know, signing that deal in I

0:48:04.280 --> 0:48:08.160
<v Speaker 5>think week four or five of that season. So I

0:48:08.200 --> 0:48:10.319
<v Speaker 5>think those are the two guys for me that are

0:48:10.360 --> 0:48:13.680
<v Speaker 5>on the table. Jonathan Taylor, certainly they have had conversations.

0:48:13.680 --> 0:48:18.400
<v Speaker 5>There's no question he acknowledged that where those stand is

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<v Speaker 5>a little harder to determine. But there's positivity at least

0:48:23.160 --> 0:48:25.319
<v Speaker 5>from him, which is not something we saw the last

0:48:25.320 --> 0:48:28.799
<v Speaker 5>time he was in this situation. So I think it's

0:48:28.880 --> 0:48:31.839
<v Speaker 5>at least in a good place for now, and they

0:48:31.880 --> 0:48:34.440
<v Speaker 5>have time. They have six weeks till the opener just about,

0:48:34.800 --> 0:48:38.320
<v Speaker 5>so I think they're just going to continue talking. Whether

0:48:38.560 --> 0:48:41.000
<v Speaker 5>either guy gets the deal they want, though I am

0:48:41.120 --> 0:48:42.879
<v Speaker 5>less sure about that, but those are the two they're

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<v Speaker 5>focusing on.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Before I let you go, stevenholderespn dot com,

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<v Speaker 1>all things Colt and I will be out at camp

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow at at ten o'clock practice, day off Wednesday night,

0:48:52.000 --> 0:48:55.400
<v Speaker 1>practice on Thursday at eight o'clock start up the Droplight

0:48:55.440 --> 0:48:59.359
<v Speaker 1>Graham Park Sports Campus. All Right, a year ago, we

0:48:59.360 --> 0:49:03.160
<v Speaker 1>were talking about a starting quarterback battle that maybe had

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<v Speaker 1>already kind of largely been decided by this point in time,

0:49:07.000 --> 0:49:11.040
<v Speaker 1>that Daniel Jones clearly won. A starting quarterback battle is

0:49:11.080 --> 0:49:14.480
<v Speaker 1>far different from a backup quarterback battle. But we seemingly

0:49:14.560 --> 0:49:18.800
<v Speaker 1>have one of those behich when Anthony Richardson and Riley Leonard.

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<v Speaker 1>Just your thoughts as to where that stands. And much

0:49:21.719 --> 0:49:25.320
<v Speaker 1>like the running back position, the importance of the preseason

0:49:25.440 --> 0:49:28.480
<v Speaker 1>games to see who was the backup to Daniel Jones.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think it's a hard one to really handicap

0:49:33.960 --> 0:49:38.160
<v Speaker 5>right now, like I and for the for an unfortunate reason.

0:49:38.280 --> 0:49:40.719
<v Speaker 5>The reason is because I don't think either guy has

0:49:40.760 --> 0:49:44.319
<v Speaker 5>really separated himself. And that's that's not what you want

0:49:44.320 --> 0:49:46.200
<v Speaker 5>to see. You want it to be obvious, right and

0:49:46.239 --> 0:49:49.759
<v Speaker 5>I don't. I would not say that it is. You know,

0:49:49.960 --> 0:49:53.240
<v Speaker 5>Riley has had Riley Leonard has had a couple of moments.

0:49:53.800 --> 0:49:57.920
<v Speaker 5>Anthony Richardson certainly has had some moments. I think for

0:49:58.040 --> 0:50:01.760
<v Speaker 5>both of them, it's the it's the ups and downs,

0:50:02.120 --> 0:50:05.200
<v Speaker 5>and that's the problem. I think what we need to

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<v Speaker 5>see at some point is consistency from those two guys.

0:50:09.800 --> 0:50:13.040
<v Speaker 5>We need to see some consistency, and we haven't seen

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<v Speaker 5>it just yet.

0:50:14.360 --> 0:50:16.239
<v Speaker 4>Hopefully they can achieve that.

0:50:16.280 --> 0:50:18.759
<v Speaker 5>It is early and and they are working with some

0:50:18.880 --> 0:50:22.279
<v Speaker 5>unfamiliar receivers in some cases, you know, they they're going

0:50:22.320 --> 0:50:25.000
<v Speaker 5>pretty deep into the depth chart there, right, So they're

0:50:25.000 --> 0:50:27.160
<v Speaker 5>not getting a lot of help sometimes from from some

0:50:27.239 --> 0:50:32.480
<v Speaker 5>of those guys, but they they've got to find some consistency.

0:50:32.600 --> 0:50:35.000
<v Speaker 5>For me, I think that's what you need from the

0:50:35.040 --> 0:50:38.800
<v Speaker 5>backup quarterback. It's not it's not necessarily the big time playmaker.

0:50:38.880 --> 0:50:41.560
<v Speaker 5>You just need a little consistency because that's what the

0:50:41.640 --> 0:50:44.480
<v Speaker 5>job calls for. I think you know your starter. You

0:50:44.520 --> 0:50:47.440
<v Speaker 5>want a guy who who's highs are really high. You know,

0:50:49.040 --> 0:50:51.399
<v Speaker 5>obviously consistency as well. But I'm saying. All I'm saying

0:50:51.440 --> 0:50:53.239
<v Speaker 5>is you just need somebody to get in there and

0:50:53.280 --> 0:50:58.040
<v Speaker 5>function and be able to orchestrate your offense. And I

0:50:58.040 --> 0:51:01.279
<v Speaker 5>haven't seen that consistently enough from either guy. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>I probably lean a little toward Anthony Richardson right now,

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<v Speaker 5>but it is very, very very slight for me.

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<v Speaker 2>As always, Thanks for time, my friend. I'll see tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 4>All right. You got it.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it.

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<v Speaker 1>Steven Holder again ESPN and ESPN dot Com joining us

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<v Speaker 1>on the Andy Moore Automotive Group hotline. That was twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five solid minutes on the Indianapolis Colt