Speaker 1: And with that, welcome to the first of our five
Speaker 1: guests that join us on the Andy Moore Automotive Group Hotline.
Speaker 2: That would be Day First.
Speaker 1: You know him and love him from his tenure at
Speaker 1: Channel six obviously these days in the VP of Communications
Speaker 1: role for Indy Car, and he joins us. Now, Dave, Hello,
Speaker 1: I hear you have a new car that's worth bragging about.
Speaker 3: It sounds like Bob Barker.
Speaker 4: Come on down.
Speaker 3: That's right, got a new car.
Speaker 1: The sticker price a little more, sticker price a little
Speaker 1: more than what Bob would.
Speaker 2: Talk about on the show back in the day.
Speaker 1: I know you could deal with some rain, maybe not
Speaker 1: as much rain as you had to. Overall, how the weekend.
Speaker 3: Go, I would say it went pretty well. Granted I'm
Speaker 3: coming to you from a private pretty much a biased opinion,
Speaker 3: but you know, Saturday, I leave it up to the drivers, right.
Speaker 3: And then two things when it comes to that, we
Speaker 3: could go ask Friday when they first saw the new
Speaker 3: NTT Indy Car Series car that will debut in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty eight, IR twenty eight, that's what we're calling it,
Speaker 3: IR Indie Racing, Mendi Car Racing twenty eight. The first
Speaker 3: time a lot of the drivers saw it in person
Speaker 3: at the Delara facility in Speedway and you would have
Speaker 3: thought that, you know, you literally it was called Christmas morning.
Speaker 3: These guys are walking in, could not you know, wait
Speaker 3: to get in the car. They were super excited to
Speaker 3: see it, impressed with the way it looks. And then
Speaker 3: Saturday Alexander Rossi had a chance to get in it
Speaker 3: for a couple hours. We're kind of dodging the rain drops,
Speaker 3: but you know, he turned on almost forty laps in
Speaker 3: the car and you know, Rake, I know you've been
Speaker 3: around Alexander Rossi. How many times have you seen Rossie
Speaker 3: smile about right?
Speaker 1: He thought exactly a giddy sort of fella, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: get that correct?
Speaker 3: Correct. So he got out of the car and then
Speaker 3: caught up with the media afterwards. I mean, he couldn't
Speaker 3: have been more complimentary of the car build obviously, of
Speaker 3: the goals that Breay collaboratively speaking, the drivers were all
Speaker 3: involved in, so they all knew that, but just to
Speaker 3: be able to drive the car for the first time,
Speaker 3: to feel it for the first time. He had a
Speaker 3: lot of really nice things to say about what the
Speaker 3: twenty twenty eight car is going to look like, and
Speaker 3: then yesterday Alex Palou had an opportunity to get in
Speaker 3: the car again turned about forty laptures so all of
Speaker 3: it was in the wet though, so he had set
Speaker 3: of Firestone firehawks on burned through those. I mean, those
Speaker 3: things basically looked like slicks by the time he was
Speaker 3: done with them. But he too, I think he came
Speaker 3: out and said, guys, they have an announcement to make.
Speaker 3: We're going to be raising the new car next year,
Speaker 3: which so I mean, it's very rare when you get
Speaker 3: all the drivers to say nice things about anyone or anything.
Speaker 3: You know, right now they're in love with the car,
Speaker 3: and for good reason too. It's been a great start
Speaker 3: to this or twenty eighth the era, all.
Speaker 1: Right, So with that, obviously, I know the last new
Speaker 1: car was twenty twelve. How long has the the R
Speaker 1: and D process been going to get us to this
Speaker 1: point where at least the car made it's on track
Speaker 1: debut this weekend. When did truly this process start to
Speaker 1: get us here?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's been a couple of years really,
Speaker 3: from drawings to concept to you know, what do you
Speaker 3: hope to accomplish with a new car? What's what's the
Speaker 3: next step. You know, then you got to work to
Speaker 3: get partners involved and then their supplier partners, some of
Speaker 3: which are brand new to IndyCar, that are involved in
Speaker 3: this car. So it's not an overnight process whatsoever. You know.
Speaker 3: I know fans probably would would have loved to have
Speaker 3: seen something new a little bit before.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 3: I get that. I think we all get that. But
Speaker 3: it is a process and the result of which, again
Speaker 3: to the drivers and a lot of the supplier partners
Speaker 3: that have been involved with than a lot of our
Speaker 3: aerodynamsis and the engineers on the IndyCar side, on the
Speaker 3: Dollara side, everyone's you know, very bullish about what they've created.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: So the next obviously you're a little busy the next
Speaker 1: five weekends, uh, six races and five weekends to close
Speaker 1: out the schedule with the fort just a tad uh
Speaker 1: and the weekend off got canceled for the best reason
Speaker 1: possible to race around the streets of our of our
Speaker 1: nation's capital. What is likely the next on track activity
Speaker 1: for the IR twenty eight Well.
Speaker 3: That's a great question. So because all of Palo's running
Speaker 3: on Sunday was basically in wet weather, conditions. We've convinced him.
Speaker 3: And the nice thing is he lives in Idianapolis. We've
Speaker 3: convinced him for a couple of hours tomorrow afternoon in
Speaker 3: the dry so obviously you see the weather forecast, we're
Speaker 3: good to go for the next couple of days. And
Speaker 3: so he's actually going to be back in the car
Speaker 3: from five to seven tomorrow afternoon on the on the
Speaker 3: Indianapolis Motors Feedway road course, and which is going to
Speaker 3: be open to the fans. If you get come down
Speaker 3: you want to hang out and turn two on the
Speaker 3: mounds like May did over the weekend, there's an opportunity
Speaker 3: to do that as well. And you don't have to
Speaker 3: bring an umbrella.
Speaker 1: Knock on wood, yes, get good to know, all right,
Speaker 1: So with that, that's go ahead, go ahead. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, with with the you and I are not
Speaker 1: are broadcasters, not engineers, so I understand there might be
Speaker 1: a hand raiser an asterisk.
Speaker 4: Here.
Speaker 1: Explain as best you can the differences in this car
Speaker 1: compared to what you are currently racing now and have
Speaker 1: been racing for the last decade plus.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, the thing about the DW twelve is
Speaker 3: that over the years, you know, the engineers and the
Speaker 3: Arrow guys have just kept adding some things onto the car,
Speaker 3: whether it's the aero screen, which you know, Jay Fry,
Speaker 3: who was the IndyCar president at the time, decided to
Speaker 3: kind of implement that program, and good on him because
Speaker 3: it has really made it difference in the safety of
Speaker 3: these NDT Intercurse series cars. So you to add the
Speaker 3: aero screen, you add some of the side impact structure structures,
Speaker 3: you add the hybrid system as well, all that after
Speaker 3: a while you keep adding more and more weight. So
Speaker 3: what this car has done automatically is and the engineers
Speaker 3: have been very thoughtful in all this, is taking weight off.
Speaker 3: So the new car weighs approximately one hundred pounds less
Speaker 3: than the current car. That's good. The power to weight
Speaker 3: ratio is much more in the favor now of drivers,
Speaker 3: so they can really push these cars beginning in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty eight and beyond. So with the safety aspects as good,
Speaker 3: if not better than the current car. You've got a
Speaker 3: different engine, different power train, and two point four liters
Speaker 3: so just a little bit more horsepower. Then at that point,
Speaker 3: what are you going to be talking about. You're talking
Speaker 3: about maybe the opportunity to break some track records at
Speaker 3: these including the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. And you know, as
Speaker 3: much as I love Ari Leindyke, it's been a few
Speaker 3: years now since Ari broke the track record at Eddie
Speaker 3: Applismatters Speedway. So you know, in the coming years, I'm
Speaker 3: not promising. No one in this building's promising twenty twenty eight,
Speaker 3: But in the coming years, I think you'll be looking
Speaker 3: at an opportunity to break track records at eid Aplismatterspeedway
Speaker 3: as well as the other circuits that the series goes on.
Speaker 3: So it's it's just there are some other handling characteristics
Speaker 3: for the car that the drivers really like. There's a
Speaker 3: new damper system, new shock system that all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: Rossi and Palo both said it feels smoother in the car,
Speaker 3: so that was another goal. The driver ability, the raceability
Speaker 3: of these cars are changing a little bit, so you know,
Speaker 3: the overall goal is to take what we think is
Speaker 3: a really good racing product on the track and try
Speaker 3: to make it even better. So far, so good. When
Speaker 3: it comes to.
Speaker 1: That again, I'm not sure if that voice the int
Speaker 1: an introduction day first VP communications of India are obviously
Speaker 1: long time sportscaster and television voice of WRTV Channel six
Speaker 1: joining us here, It's the ride without JMB Greg Reikshaw
Speaker 1: filling in ninety three to five and one seven to
Speaker 1: five the fan. Let's now get to the present day again.
Speaker 1: Six races, five weeks and I look forward to every
Speaker 1: weekend on the Indy Car Circuit. And you know that's
Speaker 1: a legitimate statement. I'm not trying to bypass Portland or
Speaker 1: you know, a new venue for your guys on the
Speaker 1: outskirts of Toronto in Markham. But there is this thing
Speaker 1: called racing around our nation's capital that you guys will
Speaker 1: be doing in two and a half weeks. Race on
Speaker 1: the twenty third. Just your thoughts on the opportunity presented
Speaker 1: of the series to race in downtown Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: To celebrate America's two hundred and fiftieth birthday.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and let's let's be upfront about that. The purpose
Speaker 3: of Indiecar going to Washington, d C. For the freedom
Speaker 3: to fifty Grand Prio at Washington, d C. Is that
Speaker 3: that is what this is all about, is celebrating America
Speaker 3: as a two hundred and fiftieth birthday, and it's going
Speaker 3: to be everything I've heard on the planning side it's
Speaker 3: going to be nuts. Fox is going to come on.
Speaker 3: They're going to do about an hour and a half
Speaker 3: long pre race show leading into the broadcast, which will
Speaker 3: happen about one o'clock on that Sunday. I've been told
Speaker 3: there are more flyovers than any race in the history
Speaker 3: of automobile world. So maybe a little hyperbole there, but it's,
Speaker 3: you know, it's everything that you think a race like
Speaker 3: this in Washington, d C is going to be all about.
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be a little bit of
Speaker 3: that and more. Again, Fox broadcast is going to be
Speaker 3: on top of it, as they've been for the last
Speaker 3: year and a half. I think the racing product is
Speaker 3: going to be pretty good. I think you're in the
Speaker 3: next hour or so you're going to hear about increasing
Speaker 3: some of the lap count for the DC race, that
Speaker 3: we can hit that two hundred and fifty mile an
Speaker 3: hour spot as well. So it's going to be it's
Speaker 3: going to be phenomenal and it ends in the heart
Speaker 3: of the championship chase right for the twenty twenty six championship,
Speaker 3: although Alex Pollow hopes it's not a part of that.
Speaker 3: You know it doesn't heat up when it comes to
Speaker 3: the championship for him, but it's going to be a
Speaker 3: stretch for sure, and DC is going to be one
Speaker 3: of those highlights.
Speaker 1: I realized it's a fair statement to say, hey, let's
Speaker 1: complete the first one before we talk about a second one.
Speaker 1: And this is just nobody's listen. This is two old
Speaker 1: friends talking. What do you think the likely of going
Speaker 1: back to d C again next year might be?
Speaker 3: Well, we keep calling it at first of its kind
Speaker 3: race in d C, and I think when it comes
Speaker 3: to the way it looks this year, certainly it is that.
Speaker 3: Now whether or not you know there's an opportunity down
Speaker 3: the road to do something more in DC, we're going
Speaker 3: to see. I do know the Mayor's office has been
Speaker 3: extremely helpful in putting this together. They've fallen in love
Speaker 3: with the NTT IndyCar series, So we'll see. I mean,
Speaker 3: no promises, but it's been a really good collaborative event
Speaker 3: to put on. Or it's certainly the folks at the
Speaker 3: White House or the Mayor's Office, we've all been incredibly
Speaker 3: pleased by the way this thing's coming together. So we'll see.
Speaker 3: That's that's the honest answer. There Greg.
Speaker 1: Now, normally when I see Dave, it's not like the
Speaker 1: Motor Speedway because he's like busy and I'm kind of busy.
Speaker 1: Hold up of somewhere in the pagoda as well. Our
Speaker 1: offices are on different floors. You just had a Carmel
Speaker 1: sporting event, so I know you're spoken for the next
Speaker 1: five weekends. I assume the next time on Will See
Speaker 1: You will be for Pike Carmel week four September the eleventh,
Speaker 1: sometime around there.
Speaker 3: Correct, there's a Yeah, there's a good champ. I've got
Speaker 3: two now at Carmel High School, so and I've got
Speaker 3: one that's on the dance team as well. So yes,
Speaker 3: it's always funny to see you at Carmel football games
Speaker 3: and Krmel basketball games are My question for you is
Speaker 3: who's going to be hot right now in six A football?
Speaker 3: Keeping an eye on Kyle.
Speaker 2: Nett and Ripple.
Speaker 1: Join me at four o'clock because today is the first
Speaker 1: day of practice. But I will repeat what I said
Speaker 1: to start the show this. I use the word giddy
Speaker 1: about Alexander Ross, which doesn't go together. I think there
Speaker 1: are six potential state championship teams in six A locally,
Speaker 1: this year, Carmel being one of them. That's how good
Speaker 1: I think six A football is locally. So I'm fired
Speaker 1: up for the start of the season.
Speaker 2: How about that.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a good season. It's going to be
Speaker 3: a good basketball season. And look forward to seeing you
Speaker 3: at the Carmel games and other high school games around
Speaker 3: the area as well. The countdown is on. I love
Speaker 3: this time of year. Greg, I know you do too.
Speaker 1: You got it, buddy, Thanks the time. I appreciate you anytime.
Speaker 3: Man, you sound good. Have a great day.
Speaker 2: Thanks brother Dave.
Speaker 1: First again, VP communication VINDI kard again. He just broke
Speaker 1: a little news. Maybe he was already out on social
Speaker 1: But in case you missed it, and in case you
Speaker 1: don't want to fight the rain showers the last couple
Speaker 1: of days, they're going to give Alex Poalow another go
Speaker 1: in the IR twenty eight tomorrow from five till seven,
Speaker 1: and the same south end spectator mounds, the track that
Speaker 1: are normally open are going to be open. IndyCar fans,
Speaker 1: gear heads, there's like a Ferris Bueller rant that I
Speaker 1: could launch into. Johnny better at that than me. You're
Speaker 1: gonna have a chance to see Alex in the New
Speaker 1: Car again tomorrow from five until seven. Soccer Saturday this
Speaker 1: week had a little bit of tape as like all
Speaker 1: of it the indye eleven and Caleb knows as well.
Speaker 1: You know, if Eddie Garrison has got a senior from
Speaker 1: his days of hosting Soccer Saturday, maybe it's Caleb.
Speaker 2: Zuvert is really really what.
Speaker 1: His uh what his name should be as we try
Speaker 1: to give everybody a one name, pronounce it. You know,
Speaker 1: there was Zada, now there's Zuvert. That's the way this
Speaker 1: works from a soccer standpoint. But the India have been
Speaker 1: played Friday night nine o'clock in San Antonio. They didn't
Speaker 1: play very well. They got beat three to one by
Speaker 1: San Antonio. But I gave coach McCauley, who is an
Speaker 1: absolute champ and an absolute pro. Hey, Bud, I can
Speaker 1: call you right after them and we'll knock this out
Speaker 1: because they're like flying back at nine.
Speaker 2: Am from San Antonio.
Speaker 1: Said, or I can call you like at seven thirty
Speaker 1: in the morning, which I think is like six thirty
Speaker 1: Central time. Which one do you want to go is
Speaker 1: call me after the match. So literally fifteen minutes after
Speaker 1: the match is over, I'm knocking out that interview, and
Speaker 1: I'm pointing. So those of you that are watching, Hello,
Speaker 1: I'm in a studio that's over there. And as soon
Speaker 1: as I walk in and do I see it's Mick
Speaker 1: Tendrow doing Fever coverage because they had the late night
Speaker 1: game on Friday night in Portland.
Speaker 2: Who joins us?
Speaker 1: Now you don't have your fancy reading glasses on for
Speaker 1: the zoom cameras, Mick, I don't.
Speaker 6: Greg.
Speaker 7: I appreciate you having me on, but I'm just wondering,
Speaker 7: what would my name be if you're going through these
Speaker 7: different names?
Speaker 6: How we sizing this one out to Dronius.
Speaker 2: They're a little doubt about that.
Speaker 3: I like it.
Speaker 1: I'll print I'll print the ball State women's soccer jersey
Speaker 1: for you with your name on it, the whole nine yards.
Speaker 1: How late were you in here Friday night into Saturday morning?
Speaker 7: It was probably one thirty by the time we walked out,
Speaker 7: So nothing too late, to be honest, Greg, for a
Speaker 7: game that started that late.
Speaker 1: That's what we call a cults postgame show. For those
Speaker 1: night games, I get to avoid that in the preseason.
Speaker 1: We only have a couple of night games this year.
Speaker 1: But for the Week two game against the Chiefs, and
Speaker 1: for the Thursday night game against the Texans, that is
Speaker 1: a two thirty sign off that I get to have
Speaker 1: on those nights.
Speaker 6: At least it's not three o'clock.
Speaker 1: It's true, although I tell you the one time that
Speaker 1: I'm like, we're frankly going to completely miss our window
Speaker 1: and I don't care was Peyton's comeback game in twenty thirteen,
Speaker 1: and we could have taken phone callers. So the morning
Speaker 1: Shore started at six am, people would have still called
Speaker 1: the show. But that's a different time and a different day,
Speaker 1: all right. Fever lose yesterday to the Lanks. Again, there's
Speaker 1: no shame in that. Minnesota is clearly the best team
Speaker 1: in the league. What do the Fever learn from that
Speaker 1: the next time those two teams cross paths?
Speaker 7: Yeah, Greg, I think that's a really good question, and
Speaker 7: ultimately one if there's a way to slow down on
Speaker 7: what the Links are doing offensively, which is really tough
Speaker 7: to do, the best way to do it is to
Speaker 7: try and score more points than them, it sounds like,
Speaker 7: but at the end of the day, with what the
Speaker 7: Fevers saw on that first game, I truly think it
Speaker 7: comes down to just seeing what they can do to
Speaker 7: stop everybody outside of Olivia Miles, because Miles was going
Speaker 7: to get her points regardless of what else happened. So
Speaker 7: the supporting cast around here her around her also did
Speaker 7: really well. So what can everybody else do to slow
Speaker 7: the rest of the core down?
Speaker 6: For the Links?
Speaker 7: And the Links are really just stout offensively and defensively.
Speaker 7: Gregar the second best offense and defense, the league best record.
Speaker 7: All that indicates that. So I think for the last
Speaker 7: two games that they'll play them, which is ironically the
Speaker 7: last two games of the regular season in late September,
Speaker 7: there's a lot of time to let this marinate. And Briagos,
Speaker 7: who's the analyst for the radio network, had said something
Speaker 7: I think that will resonate the fever. Who they are
Speaker 7: today against Minnesota won't be the same tenate they'll be
Speaker 7: at the end of September against Minnesota. So curious to
Speaker 7: see what those adjustments look like. But for me, it's
Speaker 7: really just continuing to see how they can try to
Speaker 7: slow down that supporting cast of Minnesota and Mick.
Speaker 2: Let's be honest what it's worth.
Speaker 1: The Links are so far out in front those last
Speaker 1: two games, probably you are not going to see their regulars.
Speaker 1: Maybe in one of them, but probably not in both
Speaker 1: of them, because they already have everything they can have
Speaker 1: wrapped up wrapped up at that point in time. So
Speaker 1: this may be kind of the only kind of true
Speaker 1: game conditions that those two teams see each other. It's
Speaker 1: not exactly breaking news that, Hey, the Fever are as
Speaker 1: good to a team offensively as they might in the league. Defensively,
Speaker 1: they could use some work. I pointed out a couple
Speaker 1: of times trade deadlines done. You have who you have
Speaker 1: on this team. How does Stephanie White's team get better
Speaker 1: on the defensive end with fourteen games in the regular
Speaker 1: season left to go.
Speaker 6: Greg, I really think some of this comes down to
Speaker 6: pace of place.
Speaker 7: So when you look at the defensive numbers against the Fever,
Speaker 7: some of it has to do with the pace of
Speaker 7: which Indiana is playing on offense, or the highest scoring
Speaker 7: team in the league, they have the bickest pace out
Speaker 7: of anybody. I think part of it has to do
Speaker 7: with the pace of play, But everything else I think
Speaker 7: is just continuing to off of made shots.
Speaker 6: And Coach White talk about this too. Off of made shots.
Speaker 7: Can they go back and get back on defense faster
Speaker 7: or trying to slow things down for that, and I
Speaker 7: think that's probably the biggest key outside of the pace
Speaker 7: of play, because Indiana's not afraid within the first six
Speaker 7: seven seconds to go out and get a shot. Kelsey
Speaker 7: Mitchell drives down the lane, passes out hit somebody. So
Speaker 7: I think the pace has something to do with it.
Speaker 7: But at the end of the day, yeah, off of
Speaker 7: made shots, what does that defense settle back into You.
Speaker 1: Used to seeing athletics at a pretty high level, doing
Speaker 1: the ball state games for a variety of sports. You
Speaker 1: and I had a version of this conversation right as
Speaker 1: you were kind of getting started doing this back in May.
Speaker 1: Now that we're three months in, what is it like
Speaker 1: to be you don't travel road with the team, but
Speaker 1: you're at every home game. What's it like to kind
Speaker 1: of have a front row seat to the show that
Speaker 1: is Indiana Fever basketball.
Speaker 7: Greg gets an honor like, it's so much fun just
Speaker 7: to be in the middle of it. Seventeen thousand plus
Speaker 7: at game Bridge every home game, and the focus, the
Speaker 7: energy that the sound of a game day is remarkable.
Speaker 7: So it's been gratifying and it's been it's been really
Speaker 7: cool just to meet so many people within the circles
Speaker 7: of the Indiana Fever Pacers, Sports Entertainment, the crew with
Speaker 7: you at the.
Speaker 6: Fan and everybody within the radio network.
Speaker 7: It's it's been awesome to engage with the fans and
Speaker 7: see what being inside the WNBA looks like in this capacity.
Speaker 6: So very grateful for it.
Speaker 7: And I've learned that the passion is it runs really deep,
Speaker 7: and people care and they want to see this Fever
Speaker 7: team grow and succeed. And hey, Greg, they're right there
Speaker 7: again with four thirteen games left in the regular season,
Speaker 7: which is hard to believe. At this point, they still
Speaker 7: have a chance to go see some home games, which
Speaker 7: is which is really exciting.
Speaker 1: People aren't tuning in the listening to United discuss politics.
Speaker 1: There's other outlets for this, So I guess I will
Speaker 1: couch this question this way. Clearly, there's more than just
Speaker 1: basketball that gets asked at postgame press conferences. There's more
Speaker 1: than just basque ball that shows up in terms of
Speaker 1: fans in the arena, out of the arena, around Caitlin Clark,
Speaker 1: around Sophie Cunningham, or around the league in general at
Speaker 1: these days. How has this group done? And I would
Speaker 1: say about their record, they've done a pretty good job
Speaker 1: so far. How has this group done in terms of
Speaker 1: kind of putting the distractions to one side and just
Speaker 1: focusing on playing the game when it comes to tip time.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it sounds like just from what they talk about
Speaker 7: and how they operate, they make sure the basketball is
Speaker 7: the main focus within the locker room. And Kelsey Mitchell
Speaker 7: is kind of the perfect example of the person who says,
Speaker 7: all I is ball, all I want to talk his
Speaker 7: ball and just be about basketball. And obviously she's working
Speaker 7: on our PhD as well, so that's an added thing
Speaker 7: for her right now. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 7: it seems like the locker room and the team and
Speaker 7: the camaraderie has it focused on let's make sure we're
Speaker 7: taking care of basketball and lean into that as much
Speaker 7: as possible. So I think, Greg, I think they're just
Speaker 7: going back to whatever is happening outside is outside, and
Speaker 7: they've stuck to the inside inside basketball right now.
Speaker 1: The Fever's a nice side hustle summer gig for you.
Speaker 1: My guess is that shirt's got a ball State logo
Speaker 1: on it somewhere does as the ball State season is
Speaker 1: about to begin, looking forward to Ohio State coming up in.
Speaker 2: A few weeks.
Speaker 7: Yeah, man, can you believe that we are almost thirty
Speaker 7: days to kick off where the Cardinals at Schumann Stadium
Speaker 7: nicknamed the Shoe as well, we'll go to the other
Speaker 7: Shoe in Columbus. So it's exciting that we're almost thirty
Speaker 7: days out in camp.
Speaker 6: Can you believe this? Greg camp starts on Thursday.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, so we're right there to where we'll be
Speaker 7: talking fall camp and football coverage every single day. So
Speaker 7: really excited to see what it brings. But man, oh man,
Speaker 7: I can't believe it. Once you get to about mid July,
Speaker 7: the itch to have football season returning hits very quickly.
Speaker 7: I don't know if you've got that, but I had
Speaker 7: it pretty early in July this year, and now we're
Speaker 7: getting close.
Speaker 1: I had a weekend off more or less this week,
Speaker 1: and even though I saw you here working like an
Speaker 1: eleven thirty.
Speaker 6: On f you were off that week.
Speaker 2: In my mind, that's an off weekend. Yeah. I'm ready
Speaker 2: for football. I'm there and I've had the pleasure.
Speaker 1: Not as much as you, but I've been around coach Yremovich,
Speaker 1: big fan of him, so I know good things there.
Speaker 1: Let's get to Chris kpco just because you and I
Speaker 1: haven't had this conversation, and let's the proof is in
Speaker 1: the putting two or three months from now. Early impressions
Speaker 1: the new ball State men's basketball coach.
Speaker 6: He's been fantastic.
Speaker 7: Greg come in in job of focusing on the community,
Speaker 7: the recruiting side of things, and building a squad that
Speaker 7: fits the modern day of college basketball. And one thing
Speaker 7: that really sticks out is he's still in players, Greg,
Speaker 7: and that's pretty late in the process, but he just
Speaker 7: signed somebody from I played at USC and vayderbuilt in
Speaker 7: the past six foot nine athleticism and length and was
Speaker 7: a part of gold medal teams and playing with other groups.
Speaker 6: So I think when you look at what he's built.
Speaker 7: And the staff that he's compiled, it's a very unique
Speaker 7: group and one that I think will will have really
Speaker 7: good athleticism on the wings. How do you live to
Speaker 7: a school of the basketball and everybody wants to play fast,
Speaker 7: But can you build a roster that's conducive to that?
Speaker 6: I think coach CapCo has done it.
Speaker 7: But more so than anything else, there's the way he's
Speaker 7: embraced the community. There was a meet and greet event
Speaker 7: with him a couple of weeks ago within the community
Speaker 7: and at the Cardinal Varsity Club, and what he talked
Speaker 7: about there was trying to build a roster that the
Speaker 7: community is proud of, and roster that will make ball
Speaker 7: State fans proud every time to step out there. And
Speaker 7: one thing that you hear when you're talking to people
Speaker 7: in the college basketball world is what kind of a
Speaker 7: person coach Kapco is and how he knows everybody.
Speaker 6: Greg go Sheriff's story.
Speaker 7: We did around the world segments with our basketball team,
Speaker 7: and you'll learn something about the journey for each of
Speaker 7: these players.
Speaker 6: Well one of them.
Speaker 7: kJ Parker transfers in from UMass knows the Mac pretty well,
Speaker 7: but he knows Coach CapCo better. He's like, basically, I
Speaker 7: came out of the womb and Coach Kapko is a
Speaker 7: part of my life and now he's coaching him at
Speaker 7: the collegiate level. So when you have dictions like that
Speaker 7: that have stayed in touch and now come full circle
Speaker 7: and you're getting a sharpshooter in within the conference to
Speaker 7: transfer to your school, that's going to make a difference.
Speaker 7: He just has that type of relationship with every single
Speaker 7: player he's brought in and Aaron Fine transferring from produced
Speaker 7: set at best. He and his staff vetted every single
Speaker 7: player like it not just like okay, what do you
Speaker 7: want this, this, and this, It's like we're vetting you
Speaker 7: as the person first, and then go down the list
Speaker 7: of all right, we'll see about scholarships, payments, all this
Speaker 7: different stuff. It's vetting them as a person first. That
Speaker 7: I found that very unique, and Coach Kapko has made
Speaker 7: sure that he's held to that from day one, and
Speaker 7: I think.
Speaker 6: It's already starting to show within the players he's brought in.
Speaker 2: All right, fine thing Fororey. Let you go.
Speaker 1: I have attended many football games at Shuman's name over
Speaker 1: the years. I have never broadcast a game at the Shoe.
Speaker 1: That streak ends on remember the fourteenth with the Mo
Speaker 1: Non Bell game. So I guess from a ball State perspective,
Speaker 1: it's this unique confluence of circumstances. Normally, you're not celebrating
Speaker 1: two schools coming to play at your place, and you're
Speaker 1: not in it. But because of the tradition of the game,
Speaker 1: and again because of the pause stadium construction, and we've
Speaker 1: got midweek maction that time of year, all the boxes
Speaker 1: kind of check what's the ball State perspective on hosting
Speaker 1: that game?
Speaker 7: Greg I think it's so great that have the Monon
Speaker 7: Bell Game in Munsey for multiple reasons, but one of
Speaker 7: them is just to showcase human stadium in Munsey, Indiana
Speaker 7: to people who may not normally go to Monthly or
Speaker 7: ball State for an event or just to see campus.
Speaker 7: So I think first and foremost, you're bringing in a
Speaker 7: new audience to see the greatness of the Shuman Stadium experience.
Speaker 7: And for me, I think when you have that type
Speaker 7: of a game and atmosphere, you can do it well.
Speaker 7: And Ball State's going to be involved in the process
Speaker 7: on game day to make sure that everything goes well
Speaker 7: and puts a really good product forward. But for me,
Speaker 7: I'm excited about that more people that haven't necessarily been
Speaker 7: there before will get a chance to and the rivalry itself,
Speaker 7: it speaks for what the game is and hopefully it's
Speaker 7: a really close game and you get to call an excellent,
Speaker 7: really good football game. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 7: you're going to see also people from the months of
Speaker 7: community want to go to the game as well. It's
Speaker 7: bringing different pockets of the community of Indiana together in
Speaker 7: a new place, in a neutral place for both of
Speaker 7: those teams that have never experienced that before. And I
Speaker 7: think that's I think that's a special thing. And to me,
Speaker 7: we're all about community and to have that happen at
Speaker 7: Ball State for a premier rivalry in the state, that's
Speaker 7: pretty cool.
Speaker 1: The shoe capacity is what at this point, officially, what
Speaker 1: is the capacity?
Speaker 7: You know, Greg, the Schumann Stadium capacity that I had
Speaker 7: seen last was just over fifteen thousand. It's I think
Speaker 7: it's teetering to sixteen if I remember correctly, So that's
Speaker 7: about where it's at.
Speaker 6: And I'm guessing.
Speaker 7: I'm guessing there will be over sixteen thousand people in
Speaker 7: the building for them.
Speaker 1: Well, honestly that games turned about is about ten or
Speaker 1: eleven thousand that are watching, usually in person, and then
Speaker 1: a bigger number online. I'm kind of privy to those
Speaker 1: numbers given what I do in my relationship to the game.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 1: I do think that there'll be folks from you know,
Speaker 1: alums from that from the eastern part of the state
Speaker 1: that maybe wouldn't go that normally that now will. And
Speaker 1: I hope the folks in months you just embrace the
Speaker 1: game and say, you know what, this is a one
Speaker 1: time thing. This is not going to happen again. Let's
Speaker 1: go check this out. I'm hoping that is the case.
Speaker 1: I'm up against the time. Wise, I'll let you go.
Speaker 1: Enjoy a few days off, my friend, have fun on Thursday.
Speaker 1: Hope our pass cross.
Speaker 6: Soom, Greg.
Speaker 7: I appreciate you. Sixteen thousand opening crowd for it when
Speaker 7: it opened. I think it's actually over twenty two thousand. Okay,
Speaker 7: I got my numbers mixed up. I believe what it's
Speaker 7: twenty two thousand.
Speaker 1: That's quite I hope we'll get somewhere between sixteen and
Speaker 1: twenty two thousand. There you go, see it, You got it.
Speaker 1: Mick teddro voice of the ball State Cardinals as well
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Speaker 1: and he joins us now, Hello, my friend, how are you.
Speaker 4: I'm doing well.
Speaker 5: I think I just realized that my screen protector has
Speaker 5: a crack in it. It's right by the lens. It's
Speaker 5: right by the lens, So I probably look fractured.
Speaker 2: Yeah, actually you do not.
Speaker 1: You look clear, and next to me, you're going to
Speaker 1: look great anyway, you know, to worry about. What have
Speaker 1: we learned through five practices in six days for the
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts so far?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I think they are a team that
Speaker 5: is a work in progress. But I don't think I've
Speaker 5: seen a lot of necessarily the ball moving. I don't
Speaker 5: mean the actual literal ball, but in terms of progress,
Speaker 5: you know, I don't think they have moved the ball
Speaker 5: from day one to now a week later. I think
Speaker 5: they're still trying to figure those things out. But I
Speaker 5: think we also have seen that there is a fair
Speaker 5: amount of talent on this team. And as much as
Speaker 5: there is a lot of pessimism, or at least I
Speaker 5: guess guarded optimism, extremely guarded optimism, I think there are
Speaker 5: reminders sometimes of like just the talent that is out there,
Speaker 5: you know. I think a great example is Sauce Gardner,
Speaker 5: and I don't believe we really got to appreciate this guy.
Speaker 4: Last year.
Speaker 5: It didn't go well because he wasn't on the field enough, right,
Speaker 5: But I think you have seen the dominant ability of
Speaker 5: this guy, and I think when you peer him the
Speaker 5: Shavarius Ward on the other side, that is going to
Speaker 5: be a problem for people, I mean a real problem.
Speaker 5: And there were instances in the last couple of practices
Speaker 5: where you saw the quarterbacks having to hold the ball
Speaker 5: a little bit, you know, and that is a that
Speaker 5: is a direct correlation between those two guys. I would
Speaker 5: say beyond that, you know, Daniel Jones, outside of having
Speaker 5: a deal with those two guys, he seems right on
Speaker 5: the money right now. And I think you if you're
Speaker 5: buying Daniel Jonestock, if you bought Daniel Jonestock at any point,
Speaker 5: you probably feel pretty good about it right now right
Speaker 5: that stocks pointing in the right direction.
Speaker 4: So those are just two examples.
Speaker 5: But I mean I think you know, justin Wally being
Speaker 5: another they're also you know, there are more than that,
Speaker 5: But I think those are just a couple of examples
Speaker 5: of like, hey, there's a path to this team actually
Speaker 5: being viable this year, but everybody's got to come through.
Speaker 4: That's the trick, you know.
Speaker 1: I really don't think there's all that many position battles
Speaker 1: to be had. One of them that I think that, again,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if it's going to be a battle.
Speaker 1: I've kind of leaned towards the guys that were taken
Speaker 1: early in the draft for this team is linebacker. But
Speaker 1: as I watched today, Steven, there's a lot of rotation
Speaker 1: in terms of and again the defense is a four
Speaker 1: to two five, so it's two guys that we're talking about.
Speaker 1: I guess you're your thoughts on where the coult stand
Speaker 1: at linebacker right now?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I did notice that, you know, we saw some unfamiliar
Speaker 5: numbers in there at one point, you know, with the
Speaker 5: first defense, and I was kind of like, wait, who
Speaker 5: got out there?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 5: But I think when it's all said and done, I
Speaker 5: still believe CJ.
Speaker 4: Allen is there. Mike linebacker.
Speaker 5: Part of what we have to remember because he went
Speaker 5: out there at some critical moments today, and I think
Speaker 5: what that boils down to is they're breaking him in
Speaker 5: slowly after coming off the pup list last week. So
Speaker 5: I at least I'm going to for now assume thats
Speaker 5: what is happening unless this continues, you know, for a
Speaker 5: lengthy period of time. So I think that's what's happening there.
Speaker 5: They're breaking him in slowly, he's not taking all the
Speaker 5: first team reps. But they have been very complimentary of him,
Speaker 5: and you don't get that from lou Anrumo very often
Speaker 5: with young guys, and he has been in his instance.
Speaker 5: So I think he's progressing fine and they'll take you know,
Speaker 5: they'll they'll they'll accept him taking his lumps from time
Speaker 5: to time, as is always the case with rookies, but
Speaker 5: I think all in all they feel relatively comfortable with him.
Speaker 5: That second spot is very much a question for me.
Speaker 5: I think the most interesting possibility there is Bryce Betcher, Yeah,
Speaker 5: and him getting a lot of run with the first
Speaker 5: team over the first week of training camp. I would
Speaker 5: have been shocked to see it had they not also
Speaker 5: done it in a mandatory mini camp back in June.
Speaker 5: That's where we first saw it. And at the time
Speaker 5: you're kind of like, well, that's interesting. I wonder if
Speaker 5: it means anything. And now we're seeing it from time
Speaker 5: to time again and continuously into camp, so it absolutely
Speaker 5: means something. It absolutely means something, And I think on
Speaker 5: day one Chris Ballard was asked like, Hey, is there
Speaker 5: a scenario where you could play two rookie linebackers, Like,
Speaker 5: is that a little crazy? And his answer was no,
Speaker 5: I we have done it before, so there's no.
Speaker 4: Trepidation at all.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I think it's very interesting and I think
Speaker 5: that that's an interesting potential lineup and I'm gonna be
Speaker 5: watching to see, you know, the other possibly there. They
Speaker 5: got Davis Gaither from the Cardinals who they signed this offseason.
Speaker 5: You know, I think when you talk about upside, the
Speaker 5: upside is with the young guys, right, and I think
Speaker 5: the remainder of those linebackers are guys who, you know,
Speaker 5: they maybe are better off as depth pieces potentially, and
Speaker 5: they may end up being that is what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: So so we'll see. I think that's that is an
Speaker 5: interesting spot for sure.
Speaker 1: You know, we talk about like the spine of a
Speaker 1: defense usually in baseball, you know, the battery pitcher, catcher,
Speaker 1: second basement, shortstop, center field. Well, kind of similar thing
Speaker 1: for the Colts is not just the two rookie linebackers
Speaker 1: probably are a rookie safety behind those guys in Hall
Speaker 1: see and let's face it, justin Wally is going to
Speaker 1: be the slot cornerback. He's on a rookie but he's
Speaker 1: not played a snap in the National Football League. So
Speaker 1: I guess the follow up to that would be lose system.
Speaker 1: How does that translate if you've got four guys playing
Speaker 1: in their first NFL game that are getting to start
Speaker 1: against the Ravens on September the thirteenth.
Speaker 4: Hold your breath.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I do think there is that is that
Speaker 5: is a big element that has to be considered here.
Speaker 5: Now that being said, they have clearly considered, you know,
Speaker 5: all of these things and still have decided, I think,
Speaker 5: to lean a little bit on the younger side. It's
Speaker 5: pretty clear at this point, like it's not a you know,
Speaker 5: it's not a situation where they are maybe you know,
Speaker 5: considering it. I mean, they got rid of a lot
Speaker 5: of veterans on defense, and they did this with their
Speaker 5: eyes open, knowing, you know, we don't know who's going
Speaker 5: to start yet, but they're going to be young. They
Speaker 5: they committed to that, and it is a very interesting move,
Speaker 5: you know, with all that we think is happening here
Speaker 5: behind the scenes, with you know, the coach in GM
Speaker 5: maybe being well not maybe, but certainly being.
Speaker 4: On the hot seat.
Speaker 5: And so the timing of that decision I think is
Speaker 5: very interesting. It's bold, but I'm here for it. I mean,
Speaker 5: I think they definitely needed to shake things up. On defense.
Speaker 5: They were an old defense, they were slow, that was
Speaker 5: all true. So I think they did what they had
Speaker 5: to do. But that comes with to make some pains
Speaker 5: when you play young guys. So I'm interested to see
Speaker 5: how that.
Speaker 2: Goes on the flip side. On offense.
Speaker 1: Again, as I said, I don't think there's a position
Speaker 1: ball on offense. There's just the one kind of overarching question,
Speaker 1: and I understand how Alec Pierce is doing plays a
Speaker 1: major factor in this. Is the Colts wide receiver room
Speaker 1: that we are seeing now, is that the one we're
Speaker 1: going to see five weeks from now?
Speaker 5: Man well, well hopefully is obviously the addition of Peers
Speaker 5: course soon. And I would just say before answering your
Speaker 5: question in more detail, I asked Shan Stechin today, look,
Speaker 5: do you have any more clarity on the return of
Speaker 5: Alec Pears And the answer was no. And I know
Speaker 5: he may, you know, maybe he's just kind of, you know,
Speaker 5: being a little flippant there or not, you know, not
Speaker 5: it may not necessarily.
Speaker 4: Be a cause for alarm. I guess is what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: However, I was hoping to hear, well, he's a little
Speaker 5: closer maybe next.
Speaker 4: Week, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 5: We didn't get that, and hopefully it's just Shane just
Speaker 5: doing the usual thing with injuries, like I don't know anything,
Speaker 5: but but.
Speaker 4: Maybe he's not. And I mean, all I can tell you.
Speaker 5: Is back in what May or June, when we talked
Speaker 5: to Alex Pearis about this, I.
Speaker 4: Came away feeling like, you know, this is.
Speaker 5: Not a small thing, right, and this is maybe a
Speaker 5: little bit of a bigger deal than we thought. And
Speaker 5: he allowed at that point saying that, you know, I'm probably.
Speaker 4: Not gonna be ready to start camp. He says it's
Speaker 4: probably gonna be a couple of weeks.
Speaker 5: And that's from the player, and the player is always optimistic, right, right.
Speaker 5: So we're starting week two and we have no clarity
Speaker 5: on Ali Pierce. So that alone is a big is
Speaker 5: a big issue. Now beyond that, Josh Down's great start.
Speaker 5: He's killing it. I think he's going to have a
Speaker 5: huge year. So I feel great about that. And that's
Speaker 5: about all I got to say about that. So because
Speaker 5: I just I don't know how you can sleep at
Speaker 5: night with this receiving core. It's it's not only I
Speaker 5: think this is actually a good example of what could
Speaker 5: happen if Downs or Pierce miss a game.
Speaker 4: This is the lineup you're going to have. Your second
Speaker 4: receiver at.
Speaker 5: That point becomes Ashton Doolan, Lacwan Treadwill, Nick Westbrook, A Kine.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's what you're talking about. And it's no.
Speaker 5: Disrespect to any of those guys, but I mean, we
Speaker 5: have depth charts for a reason, right and I just
Speaker 5: think they are living very dangerously at that position. When
Speaker 5: you have paid your quarterback eighty eight million dollars. My
Speaker 5: reaction to that is you need to do everything you
Speaker 5: can to ensure that that investment pays off, because otherwise,
Speaker 5: what the hell are we doing?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 5: And I have major, major, major questions about how they're
Speaker 5: proceeding out wide receiver right now. The feedback I've gotten
Speaker 5: is that we're one weekend chill out.
Speaker 4: I disagree. I will not chill out.
Speaker 5: I do not think it's too early, and I do
Speaker 5: not think that I am being too much of an
Speaker 5: alarmist on this. I think they are really flying too
Speaker 5: close to the sun there.
Speaker 1: What's available? How do you get help? Is it free agent,
Speaker 1: is it trade? What are the possibility he's looking like?
Speaker 5: Well, the trade market, I don't know what that looks
Speaker 5: like yet. I think we we get a better sense
Speaker 5: of that once we once we see where teams are
Speaker 5: with their with their rosters and what the numbers look like.
Speaker 5: And I think we need to get a little bit
Speaker 5: into the preseason maybe before we know that, but so
Speaker 5: we'll see the trade The preseason trade market takes a
Speaker 5: little bit to evolve sometimes, you know. But I think
Speaker 5: there were a couple of guys that I think were
Speaker 5: at the top of my list. One was Deebo Samuel.
Speaker 5: He is no longer available. Correct, Okay, he's gone back
Speaker 5: to San Francisco. I think he was a good fit
Speaker 5: for the situation because the guy you lost was Michael Pittman,
Speaker 5: who was your physical guy, right. Deebo Samuel also a
Speaker 5: physical guy, high injury rate with him, so I understand
Speaker 5: the trepidation. The other I think obvious option is Keenan Allen.
Speaker 5: I have not written that off yet. Keenan Allen and
Speaker 5: Shane Styken have a very close relationship. It would make
Speaker 5: sense he knows the offense. He could come in and
Speaker 5: contribute on day one. Literally, he was much more productive
Speaker 5: last year than I even realized. And I remember going
Speaker 5: back recently and thinking, ah, Keenan Allen, he couldn't possibly
Speaker 5: have done anything last year. And then I went and
Speaker 5: I looked at it, and the guy caught like seventy balls.
Speaker 5: So I certainly wasn't paying attention, right, And I think
Speaker 5: what you get there is plug and play, and this
Speaker 5: is it's not necessarily a super young group, but I
Speaker 5: think at least you stabilize it with that veteran presence
Speaker 5: as well, So that's a bonus. And I think you
Speaker 5: take some of the heat off of those guys to
Speaker 5: maybe have to play above their heads, you know, when
Speaker 5: they're called upon. Some of those guys who are role players.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think role players need to remain role players.
Speaker 5: When you ask them to be more, that's when you
Speaker 5: get in trouble. So Keenan Allen, you can ask him
Speaker 5: to step up on in a particular Sunday and he
Speaker 5: can handle it, right. I think that's why you do
Speaker 5: something like that, So stay tuned. All I can say
Speaker 5: I think they should make a move personally.
Speaker 1: Steven Older espagn dot Com, All Things Colts, Greg Reichs
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Speaker 1: five and one oh seven five the fan, I said,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not sure how many questions I
Speaker 1: can answer this point in terms of the Colts.
Speaker 2: I said.
Speaker 1: The first one is I think Daniel Jones is going
Speaker 1: to be fine, as you've touched on. I say the
Speaker 1: other one that I'm probably maybe most certain on, I
Speaker 1: think Seth mcgow is going to get some touches for
Speaker 1: this football team this year, and again in part just
Speaker 1: because you can't ask JT to play as big of
Speaker 1: a role as you did a year ago. So let's
Speaker 1: talk about the young kid from Kentucky and again he's
Speaker 1: not going to split carries with JT. And he frankly,
Speaker 1: he's not the official the number two. He and DJ
Speaker 1: Ginz are still battling for that. What's the role you
Speaker 1: think McGowan plays for this group this year?
Speaker 5: Well, the first thing I would I would say is
Speaker 5: I would add to what you just said about about JT.
Speaker 5: It's not just last year the heavy load. It's frankly,
Speaker 5: it's two years back back yep load. You know he
Speaker 5: has been I believe, over three hundred carries both in
Speaker 5: each of the last two seasons and three hundred carries.
Speaker 5: Is is kind of the delineating line for me where when
Speaker 5: you're past that, that's where you're getting into rare air
Speaker 5: in terms of like mileage. And so he's done that
Speaker 5: I think three or four times in his career.
Speaker 1: Three so last two years three zero three and three
Speaker 1: twenty three. His twenty twenty one season three thirty two.
Speaker 2: So there you go.
Speaker 5: Yeah, just about every year he's been healthy, he's done it.
Speaker 5: And you know, it's it's a lot, I think. So
Speaker 5: I think it's the accumulation that you're worried about. You know,
Speaker 5: he's held out pretty well, you know, to his credit,
Speaker 5: but does that continue? That is a fair question. So
Speaker 5: you are correct. They would like to get somebody going
Speaker 5: behind him. They would like to get some you know,
Speaker 5: just I think spelling him from time to time. And
Speaker 5: then also like if they do get a lead here
Speaker 5: and there, like they did last year, you want to
Speaker 5: have somebody that can finish out the games right and
Speaker 5: have somebody to ice it, you know, in that fourth quarter.
Speaker 4: So I think this is an.
Speaker 5: Important role and I do agree that seth McGowan to
Speaker 5: me right now, he looks like the guy who has
Speaker 5: the lead at that spot. What I love about him
Speaker 5: is it is a north and south affair with him. Okay,
Speaker 5: he gets the ball, he runs hard first of all,
Speaker 5: which is kind of like, kind of important at running
Speaker 5: back obviously, but he runs hard, but he he is
Speaker 5: north and south. He's a determined runner, and frankly, that's
Speaker 5: what I want for my backup running back. I want
Speaker 5: you to just get in there and just go crazy,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, just make them have to
Speaker 5: tackle you. I think that's what you want. Either that
Speaker 5: or you want the speedster who was just the change
Speaker 5: of paceback who was just like, you know, one cut
Speaker 5: and just go and nobody can catch him, you know,
Speaker 5: or scat back.
Speaker 4: But you want a different style, right, I think you
Speaker 4: want something of a different style now.
Speaker 5: Jonathan Taylor certainly a physical running back, but I think
Speaker 5: he's more of a patient running back who's who's waiting
Speaker 5: for blocks to develop and materialize and runs in a
Speaker 5: different manner Seth McGowan.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying he won't do.
Speaker 5: That, but he definitely is looking for that one crease
Speaker 5: and is just trying to get if there's two yards there,
Speaker 5: He's trying to get two and a half right, and
Speaker 5: sometimes that's the job, that is the job. I don't
Speaker 5: think they're looking for that number two spot. The Colts
Speaker 5: aren't looking for a game breaker. They're just looking for
Speaker 5: somebody to just get you know, positive, positive yardage right
Speaker 5: and moved the chains.
Speaker 4: I think Seth McGowan can do that.
Speaker 5: The other thing with him so far, it looks like
Speaker 5: he is up to handling himself in the passing game,
Speaker 5: which is a critical part of this DJ Gidden I
Speaker 5: think the first few days of camp the drops were
Speaker 5: really noticeable and he did not do himself any favors there.
Speaker 4: So we'll see how this goes.
Speaker 5: The games will play I think a big role the
Speaker 5: preseason games.
Speaker 4: Those guys are gonna get a lot of run.
Speaker 5: I'd be shocked if you see much of Jonathan Taylor
Speaker 5: at all. You may not see him even once. So
Speaker 5: you're going to see a lot of those guys in
Speaker 5: the preseason. I'm actually looking forward to that position battle.
Speaker 1: All of the questions I have asked you have been
Speaker 1: about what we're going to see in the next four
Speaker 1: to six weeks. The next question is who's going to
Speaker 1: get paid before the season starts going into next year.
Speaker 1: Quentin Nelson, Jonathan Taylor, Grover Stewart, Josh Downs, obviously, Anthony Richardson,
Speaker 1: and de Forrest Buckner, who we all kind of think
Speaker 1: this might be it and there's obviously an injury question
Speaker 1: mark that kind of puts him into a different conversation.
Speaker 1: Those are the biggest names of the many that are
Speaker 1: on the last year of their deal this year for
Speaker 1: this team. What is the likely that any of those
Speaker 1: guys sign an extension before the season starts?
Speaker 4: Well, you know.
Speaker 5: A little bit of a conflicting message from Quintin Nelson.
Speaker 5: I can't I think you have to interpret it. So
Speaker 5: the other day he was asked whether whether anything's happening there,
Speaker 5: but if you want to sign a contract before the
Speaker 5: season and what have you. His answer was something like,
Speaker 5: I have had no conversations. I leave that up to
Speaker 5: my agent and hopefully they handle it. I'm not worried
Speaker 5: about it. I think the word I is very key there.
Speaker 5: I don't believe that the Colts have not even broached
Speaker 5: the idea of a contract extension with Quentin Nelson, or
Speaker 5: at least I don't.
Speaker 4: I choose not to believe that. Okay, That's what I
Speaker 4: would say.
Speaker 5: I think when he says I haven't, I think that's
Speaker 5: his way of saying, I pay someone to do that
Speaker 5: for me, And so I'm going to assume that is
Speaker 5: what is happening there.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 5: That being said, I do think the organization is at
Speaker 5: a very interesting juncture, right. We know about you know,
Speaker 5: hot seats, and a lot of contracts are up this
Speaker 5: coming off seasons. It's a natural reset opportunity and all that.
Speaker 5: So I don't know that the Colts are eager to
Speaker 5: go out and sign players to millions and millions of
Speaker 5: dollars of extensions. So but I would say I say
Speaker 5: all that to say, though, I still think you at
Speaker 5: least try to get the deal with Quinton. I remember
Speaker 5: the last deal he signed. It happened, I believe, very
Speaker 5: late in the evening the night before the season opener,
Speaker 5: which would have been I think the two thy twenty
Speaker 5: two opener.
Speaker 4: I guess.
Speaker 5: So they've been here before, right, and they've gone right
Speaker 5: down to the wire. That could happen again. Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 5: They have certainly gone past the wire with him right
Speaker 5: than twenty three, you know, signing that deal in I
Speaker 5: think week four or five of that season. So I
Speaker 5: think those are the two guys for me that are
Speaker 5: on the table. Jonathan Taylor, certainly they have had conversations.
Speaker 5: There's no question he acknowledged that where those stand is
Speaker 5: a little harder to determine. But there's positivity at least
Speaker 5: from him, which is not something we saw the last
Speaker 5: time he was in this situation. So I think it's
Speaker 5: at least in a good place for now, and they
Speaker 5: have time. They have six weeks till the opener just about,
Speaker 5: so I think they're just going to continue talking. Whether
Speaker 5: either guy gets the deal they want, though I am
Speaker 5: less sure about that, but those are the two they're
Speaker 5: focusing on.
Speaker 1: All right, Before I let you go, stevenholderespn dot com,
Speaker 1: all things Colt and I will be out at camp
Speaker 1: tomorrow at at ten o'clock practice, day off Wednesday night,
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Speaker 1: Graham Park Sports Campus. All Right, a year ago, we
Speaker 1: were talking about a starting quarterback battle that maybe had
Speaker 1: already kind of largely been decided by this point in time,
Speaker 1: that Daniel Jones clearly won. A starting quarterback battle is
Speaker 1: far different from a backup quarterback battle. But we seemingly
Speaker 1: have one of those behich when Anthony Richardson and Riley Leonard.
Speaker 1: Just your thoughts as to where that stands. And much
Speaker 1: like the running back position, the importance of the preseason
Speaker 1: games to see who was the backup to Daniel Jones.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's a hard one to really handicap
Speaker 5: right now, like I and for the for an unfortunate reason.
Speaker 5: The reason is because I don't think either guy has
Speaker 5: really separated himself. And that's that's not what you want
Speaker 5: to see. You want it to be obvious, right and
Speaker 5: I don't. I would not say that it is. You know,
Speaker 5: Riley has had Riley Leonard has had a couple of moments.
Speaker 5: Anthony Richardson certainly has had some moments. I think for
Speaker 5: both of them, it's the it's the ups and downs,
Speaker 5: and that's the problem. I think what we need to
Speaker 5: see at some point is consistency from those two guys.
Speaker 5: We need to see some consistency, and we haven't seen
Speaker 5: it just yet.
Speaker 4: Hopefully they can achieve that.
Speaker 5: It is early and and they are working with some
Speaker 5: unfamiliar receivers in some cases, you know, they they're going
Speaker 5: pretty deep into the depth chart there, right, So they're
Speaker 5: not getting a lot of help sometimes from from some
Speaker 5: of those guys, but they they've got to find some consistency.
Speaker 5: For me, I think that's what you need from the
Speaker 5: backup quarterback. It's not it's not necessarily the big time playmaker.
Speaker 5: You just need a little consistency because that's what the
Speaker 5: job calls for. I think you know your starter. You
Speaker 5: want a guy who who's highs are really high. You know,
Speaker 5: obviously consistency as well. But I'm saying. All I'm saying
Speaker 5: is you just need somebody to get in there and
Speaker 5: function and be able to orchestrate your offense. And I
Speaker 5: haven't seen that consistently enough from either guy. I mean,
Speaker 5: I probably lean a little toward Anthony Richardson right now,
Speaker 5: but it is very, very very slight for me.
Speaker 2: As always, Thanks for time, my friend. I'll see tomorrow.
Speaker 4: All right. You got it.
Speaker 2: You got it.
Speaker 1: Steven Holder again ESPN and ESPN dot Com joining us
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Speaker 1: five solid minutes on the Indianapolis Colt