1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: The governor's approval ratings are in the toilet in his 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: home county. 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 2: You know they know him best. 4 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: Perhaps we want to find out why it's the Kennelly 5 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: Casey Show. I'm rob back with this producer Jason, Jason Dozer, 6 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: formerly the Tony Katz Midday Show producer for the Tony 7 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: Kats Midday Show, And of course we've been talking about 8 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: this the last several days. We sent him down to 9 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 1: du Bois County after this poll came out that showed 10 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: Mike Braun had a disapproval rating of sixty two percent 11 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: in his home county. It turns out much of the 12 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: hatred from the locals down they're centers around his support 13 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: for this Mid States Corridor project, which would connect I 14 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 1: sixty four to I sixty nine, a multi billion dollar 15 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 1: project that will cost all of US taxpayers a lot 16 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: of money. And Jason, I think the thing of it is, 17 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: it's two things. One, there isn't a perceived benefit to 18 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: the taxpayer, especially the folks down there. And two they're 19 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: pissed off because they think Braun and his distribution business 20 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: is going to make money off of it. 21 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 3: Well that and more importantly, I think they're upset that 22 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 3: they're just being pushed around. One hundred and sixty five 23 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 3: people were taken to court over this. One hundred and 24 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 3: sixty five residents, landowners, farmers, the people that we look 25 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 3: up to were taken to court by the State of Indiana. 26 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 3: And we'll probably get to that tomorrow. But yesterday you 27 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 3: talked about the gentleman that could potentially lose his farm 28 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,199 Speaker 3: he's had in the family for one hundred and seventy 29 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 3: five years. But I also wanted to get a good, 30 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: broad general idea of the different types of residence down there. 31 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 3: So I talked to a lady that we talked about 32 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 3: losing your farm, losing your home. Here's a lady that 33 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 3: is talking about losing a small small business. 34 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 4: At Morris and I live in Hayesville right off to 35 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 4: thirty one. 36 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 3: So are you four or against the Mid States Corridor. 37 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 4: I'm against. I'm here helping my friends that have businesses 38 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 4: in Hayesville, and you know, we don't want this for 39 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 4: the simple fact it's going to take away our business. 40 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 4: She's right on to thirty one and she's not going 41 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 4: to have the business because they're going to go right byered. 42 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 3: What is your understanding the reason then that they're pushing 43 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 3: for the mid State's corridor. 44 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 4: Mainly to the traffic and the flow like three out 45 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 4: three minutes, I believe is what they say is it's 46 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 4: all they're you know, saving, It's mainly just so for 47 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 4: these truckers to get their goods back and forth. 48 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 3: Do you see any positive at all if the road 49 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 3: were put through here? 50 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 4: No? 51 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 3: We love progress. 52 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 4: We want to see more progress, but they're taking away 53 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 4: progress by taking away our businesses in between. 54 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 3: And did you vote for Mike Braun for governor? 55 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 4: Hell? 56 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 5: No. 57 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 3: Has he come down to Jasper or du Bois County 58 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 3: as far as you know and explained why he wants 59 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 3: this or have they even sent folks down to explain it? 60 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 3: Or is he just strong arming or assuming that what 61 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 3: he wants is what the folks in Jasper would want. 62 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 4: Supposedly he's brought somebody down, but I've never seen them, 63 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 4: I mean, and all his little buddies that he's got 64 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 4: in here, his little soldiers. They're asked a question, hey 65 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 4: do you this? Are you against this or for this? 66 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 4: They close their eyes and act like, you know, I 67 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 4: don't want to comment, you know, I can't comment on that. 68 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 3: If Mike Brown walked into this meeting tonight, what question 69 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 3: would you have for him or would it be a 70 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 3: question or a statement? 71 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 6: I'd probably kick his ass. 72 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 2: Well, and I think this is that. 73 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: By the way, it's Kelly Cases, John Rob producer Jason's 74 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: with us. He went down to the Boys County to 75 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: ask residents down there why they're so upset about this 76 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: Mid States Corridor project that led to the governor having 77 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: an abysmal approval rating in his home county on that 78 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: poll that came out. 79 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: These people are not I think that's the thing, Jason. 80 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: These people are not screwing around like they are genuinely 81 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: whether it's a farm or a business, these people are 82 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: genuinely fearful about this completely disrupting and up ending their 83 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: way of life. 84 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, And like I said, it's not just Jasper, 85 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 3: it's not just to Boy's County. That's about a billion 86 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 3: two of the budget. They still would have to go 87 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: through Martin County, through Davies County. You're talking about three 88 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 3: to four billion dollars, countless businesses, countless farms. Everybody keeps 89 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 3: talking about we want the farmers, we want the independent 90 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 3: farmers out there, and the state is trying to get 91 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 3: rid of them with this expressway. 92 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: And so again we're playing some of these clips of 93 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: these people that. 94 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: You talk to, just to give our audience the real 95 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: world perspective, because look, we've failed in Indianapolis. The media 96 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: myself included until reasonly to cover this, to understand the 97 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: magnitude of it. It's a massive deal, and so these 98 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: interviews are just great to understand where your tax dollars 99 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: are basically being wasted. I mean, the people down there 100 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: view this as a waste. And I come back to 101 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: that hearing the other day with Transportation the House where 102 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: Jim Pressel, Republican Head of the House, asked, indot, what 103 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: are we doing here? 104 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 2: I don't see the value in this project. 105 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: And we've got all these hundreds of projects that are 106 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: being canceled, so this one can go forward. 107 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: Who else do we hear from? 108 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 3: We hear from Mary or excuse me, Maggie Mary Stone, 109 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 3: which is an interesting story because Maggie and her husband 110 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 3: moved down from Chicago, where she was involved in politics, 111 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 3: to get away from politics, to get away from congestion, 112 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 3: to buy a what they called there forever home in 113 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 3: the middle of nowhere. So there would not they would 114 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 3: not have to worry about expansion and things like that. 115 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 3: And sure enough, she's the one I keep referring to 116 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 3: when I say they're going to run the interstate through 117 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 3: her front yard, and she is not, despite what the 118 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 3: song says, happy about it. 119 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 7: Erry Stone, I moved here in twenty twenty three with 120 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 7: my husband, Brad hook Song, who is a hometown boy. 121 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 7: I allured him to Chicago, where we lived together when 122 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 7: we got married, and a couple of years ago we 123 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 7: decided that we'd come back to Jasper and slow down, 124 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 7: and we bought what we thought was going to be 125 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 7: our forever home, and it turned out it was in 126 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,799 Speaker 7: the path of the proposed mid States Corridor. 127 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 3: So you went from the politics of Chicago to the 128 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 3: politics of Jasper, Indiana. And do you see much difference 129 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 3: in it. 130 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 7: That's a funny question. I worked in politics in Chicago, 131 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 7: and I thought that those days were going to be 132 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 7: behind me, But it turns out that the saying is true. 133 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 7: All politics is local, and there's always an issue that 134 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 7: requires the attention of the people in your town, and 135 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 7: this one is no exception. 136 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 3: From an outside perspective, you look at it like you 137 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 3: made an investment in a home and property. The state 138 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 3: wants to come take that property, take that home. They're 139 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 3: going to pay you for it. Odds are you're going 140 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 3: to make you you're going to make a profit off that. 141 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 7: You know, It's interesting that you frame it that way, 142 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 7: because it's true. We are unlike a lot of other 143 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 7: people in this room. We have we don't have a 144 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 7: multi generational farm. We don't have ancestral ties to the 145 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 7: home that we bought. And truth be told, if I 146 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 7: was convinced that the road was good for the people 147 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 7: of du Bois County and the city of Jasper, then 148 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 7: I would reluctantly give up my home. But as we 149 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 7: delved into the topic further, we determine that there are 150 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 7: all kinds of reasons to be posed to this road. 151 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 7: I don't care if they take my home or not. 152 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 7: This road is a bad idea for the people who 153 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 7: live here. It's a bad idea for the people in 154 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 7: Indiana as a whole. We all pay basic taxes that 155 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 7: would pay for this road. And I don't think a 156 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 7: billion dollars is a good I don't think this is 157 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 7: a good investment for those billion dollars. 158 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 2: You know, She's fascinating to me. 159 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: By the way, it's Kennelly Casey Show and Rob producer 160 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: Jason is here. He went down to Dubois County to 161 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: talk to these people that are being impacted by this 162 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: very expensive, multi billion dollar Mid States Corridor project, wildly 163 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: unpopular down there. She's interesting to me because you can't 164 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: paint her as just some towny who doesn't want progress. 165 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: She moved down there recently, and she's pissed off about 166 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: it too. 167 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 3: And she knew her stuff. She was very articulate, she 168 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 3: knew what she was talking about. We talked off the air, 169 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 3: and it was just it was just so surreal and 170 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 3: really interesting to see such a melting pot of folks 171 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 3: in this little town. And again they were all there 172 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 3: for one cause, which was of course very interesting. 173 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 2: All right, who we got time for one more? 174 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 8: Here? 175 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 2: Somebody you talked to? Who are we gonna hear from? 176 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 4: Okay? 177 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 3: This is Mary Allen. She is a She serves as 178 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 3: the at large city councilor in Evansville. She's running against 179 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 3: I believe Mark Mesmer in the eighth distant Yeah, that's right, Yeah, 180 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 3: Mesmer and Mesmer along with us. 181 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: So Messmer and Braun are interesting because they were created 182 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: legislation Mesmer and Braun did. Mesmer was in the state Senate, 183 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: Braun was in the State House, got elected to the 184 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: State House. 185 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 2: That really kind of helped kickstart this whole thing. 186 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: So Mesmer and Braun are sort of tied into this 187 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: mid State's corridor together, right. 188 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 3: And what she's talking about here is, as you were 189 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 3: talking about earlier, the folks in the state, all the 190 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 3: politicians in the state of Indiana should be concerned about 191 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 3: this road because why is this road going to get 192 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 3: three or four billion dollars when they're cutting other roads, 193 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 3: potholes things like that that need to be filled. So 194 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 3: that's her comment here action to Jasper and du Boise County. 195 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 9: I'm Mary Allen. I am the Democrat candidate for the 196 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 9: eighth District congressional seat. 197 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 3: And why are you here tonight in a room full 198 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 3: of Republicans? 199 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 9: Well because hopefully they'll be my constituents, and I wanted 200 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 9: to listen and learn. And when I announced my candidacy, 201 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 9: I had several people reaching out to say, Hey, what's 202 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 9: your opinion on this midis State Corridor? And to be 203 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 9: really honest, I said, I don't know, educate me, I 204 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 9: don't know enough to have an informed opinion. And then 205 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 9: since then saw the poll, it was really eye opening interesting. 206 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 9: And then since I'd seen some articles talking about how 207 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:21,359 Speaker 9: in dot is canceling over three hundred road bridge projects 208 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 9: throughout the state due to budget constraints, but yet this 209 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 9: project still seems to be underway. So very curious right now, 210 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 9: probably more questions than answers. And as a local politician, 211 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 9: I'm a at large city councilor in Evansville. As a 212 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 9: local politician, I'm kind of looking at it through that 213 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 9: lens as well to think what are the local officials 214 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 9: think up here? Because budgetarily, I think that they're going 215 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 9: to be responsible from what I'm learning is about ten 216 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 9: percent of that funding, which is still millions of dollars, 217 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 9: and so I'm wondering where is that coming from locally? 218 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 9: What's that going to take away from their local budget? 219 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 9: And then I believe they will be responsible for the 220 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 9: upkeep of maintaining two thirty one themselves, and so what 221 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 9: does that look like budgetarily as well for the local 222 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 9: towns and counties. 223 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 3: You got a big round of applause tonight when you 224 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 3: were introduced. How many times have you been into a 225 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 3: meeting that with both Republicans and Democrats, everybody seemingly on 226 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 3: the same page. 227 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 2: Right, that's really exciting. 228 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 9: This is probably the first time that's happened. 229 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 3: And well, thank Governor bron for that. 230 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: Yes, all right, So that's gonna do it for us 231 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: today on this But producer, Jason, you're gonna come back 232 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: with us tomorrow because there's a new villain that emerges 233 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: in tomorrow's episode of the Mid States Court. Are pissed 234 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: like everyone off. It's an old friend of this show, Jason. Right, Well, 235 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: hot Todd Rokita. Yeah, you're buddy. 236 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 3: One hundred and sixty five people taken to court by 237 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 3: Todd Rokeita and that's a juicy story. We're going to 238 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 3: talk about that tomorrow. 239 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 2: All right, we'll do it tomorrow. Jason'll be back with us. 240 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: More on the way next Kennel Casey Show ninety three WIBC. 241 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 2: So, Mark Kelly is suing Pete hegg Seth. 242 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 8: Is he suing Pete hegg Seth or is he suing 243 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 8: the Pentagon? 244 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you're right, I mean, but they're saying he's 245 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: suing Pete hegg Seth because he basically controls the Pentagon. 246 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 3: Right. 247 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: So what I mean by this is Mark Kelly is 248 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: a senator from Arizona. He was famous before he was 249 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: a senator. He was an astronaut and he was the 250 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: husband of Gabby Giffords. Gabby Giffords was the US rep 251 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: who was shot and then she and Mark Kelly became 252 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 1: huge gun control advocates. 253 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: Right. He then runs for the Senate. He wins, and he's, 254 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 2: at least. 255 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: By Democrat standards, struck a more moderate tone. As a senator, 256 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: He's found consensus on a lot of things some other 257 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: Democrats might not do. But he made headlines last year 258 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: late last year in which he and other Democrats appeared 259 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: to tell troops essentially to defy orders of Donald Trump 260 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: they didn't like or agree with. 261 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 6: Correct. 262 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, he said, if you don't believe that this order 263 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 8: is lawful, you don't have to do. 264 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: It, which is insane. And you come from a military family, 265 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: so you will know this. The commander in chief is 266 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: just that, the commander in chief. Yeah, if something is 267 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: illegal or whatever, if the commander chief tells you to 268 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: do it, that's for somebody else to figure out. You 269 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: do what you're told. The fastest way to get somebody killed. 270 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: Is up a bunch of people out there in the field. 271 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 6: Of battle not obeying orders? 272 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely? Yeah, And so the Pete. 273 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 1: Egg Seth and the US military then moved to demote 274 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: Mark Kelly. There are people who want Mark Kelly prosecuted 275 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: for this. 276 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 2: Now. 277 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: He tried to come out later, as did these other 278 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: Democrats and go, we weren't saying defy an order Trump becaves. 279 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 1: We're just saying if there was an illegal order, people. 280 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 8: Like, yeah, there's a chain of command that you go through. 281 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 8: So he want that's the case. 282 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: He's filing a lawsuit over the attempt to demote him. 283 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: And here's what he had to say. 284 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 10: I didn't expect that I would ever find myself here 285 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 10: as a US Senator, having filed a lawsuit against a 286 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 10: Secretary of Defense. Pete Hegseth is now coming after what 287 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 10: I earned through my twenty five years of military service 288 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 10: in violation of my rights as an American and as 289 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 10: a retired veteran, and as a United States Senator. 290 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 2: Whose job it is to hold this. 291 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 10: And any administration accountable. He doesn't like what I said, 292 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 10: and so he is trying to censure and demote me. 293 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 2: And let's talk. 294 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 10: For just a second, about what it is that I 295 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 10: said that he decided to censure me over according to 296 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 10: his letter. First, that I simply restated the law that 297 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 10: service members must refuse illegal orders. Somehow, restating the law 298 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 10: is now against the law, according to Pete hegsat. 299 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: No, everybody knows what you were doing, because how many 300 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: times did you state the law along with a bunch 301 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: of other elected Democrats in a highly produced video when 302 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: Joe Biden was president. 303 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 8: Well, and not only that, but he always likes to 304 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 8: remind everybody about his service. So he's weaponizing his own 305 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 8: resume to undermine the chain of command. 306 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: Well, he's smartest guy in every room. Guy, he's the 307 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: guy that wants you to know he's above And we 308 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: all have friends like this, right, You all have that 309 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: friend who's actually liberal, who won't admit their liberal and 310 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: they try to tell you how moderate they are, but 311 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: then on every topic they want you to know how 312 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: smart they are about it. And almost every single time 313 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: their smartness is some liberal position. Well I'm not a liberal, 314 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: but and then every position they have is liberal. But 315 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: they want you to know how how much they've thought 316 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: it through, right, how much they've tried to strike some 317 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: middle ground, how they've really researched everything, and you're going 318 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: to want to listen to them because they're the smartest guy. 319 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: That's who he is. We all have that person. I 320 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't call him friends. Put somebody in our orbit who 321 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: is Mark Kelly, and they're of his Knoxius as hell. 322 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 8: So his lawsuit says that they're punishing him and that 323 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 8: is a violation of the First Amendment. 324 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: Well, he's lucky they do'll prosecute him, because you could 325 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: make a case that if you are telling, if it 326 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: determined that they're telling soldiers to defy orders of the 327 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: commander chief, that's treason. 328 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 2: You're telling them to work against their country office holder. 329 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, And so he's lucky they're just demoting 330 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: him because everybody knows what he's doing. It's not like 331 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: every year he comes out with some New Year's Day 332 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: message to the troops. Now, remember you don't have to 333 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: abide by illegal orders. He certainly never said it when 334 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: Biden was president, and everybody knows what he's doing. Another 335 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: thing that is starting to get more traction case and 336 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: I know you've been down, so I don't know if 337 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: you've been keeping up on this, But there are these 338 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: there's an uprising going on in Iran, and this is 339 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: obviously there have been various uprisings for years in which 340 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: the people there have said, look, we're tired of living 341 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: under you psychopaths who won't let us do anything or 342 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: have any sort of enjoyment of life whatsoever, and we're 343 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: done with it. And there have been stops and starts 344 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: to these over the years. There is a new start. 345 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: It is gaining traction. It is somewhat hard to get 346 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: verifiable information out of what goes on in Iran because 347 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: once like a North Korea, they put their boot on 348 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: everything and every one. 349 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 6: Right, let's just. 350 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 8: Turn the internet off, so there can't be any free 351 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 8: flow of information right now. 352 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: Trump has given some aid to this, or some momentum 353 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: behind this, basically saying that if these protesters are killed, 354 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: to which there are reports that hundreds of them have 355 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: now been killed, that he would consider sending in the 356 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: US military to do something about it. And it is 357 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: believed that that has fueled more protests in Iran. And 358 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: again you're going on bits and pieces, You're going on 359 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: information that has come out from you know, suppose that 360 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: eye witnesses, people on the ground, et cetera, because you can't, 361 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 1: like I said, you can't get direct information through a 362 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 1: free press. But here's Carolyn Levitt and they were asking her, like, 363 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: what is Trump's plan now, since he's sort of thrown 364 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: that out there and clearly these people are still getting killed, 365 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: at least allegedly, and she said, who knows what Trump 366 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: will do next? 367 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 11: What I will tell you is that what the Iranian 368 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 11: regime is saying publicly is quite different from the messages 369 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 11: they are sending to the United States and the Trump 370 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 11: administration privately. President Trump, as for him, he has always 371 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 11: expressed that diplomacy is the first option always who has been, 372 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 11: always will be. However, he is unafraid to use the 373 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 11: lethal force and might of the United States military if 374 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 11: and when he deems that necessary, and nobody knows that 375 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 11: better than the Iranian regime. The greatest leverage the regime 376 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 11: had just several months ago was their nuclear program, which 377 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 11: President Trump and the United States military totally obliterated through 378 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 11: Operation Midnight Hammer. And so what President Trump will do next, 379 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 11: only he knows. So the world will have to keep 380 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 11: waiting and guessing, and we will let him decide. I'm 381 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 11: certainly not going to broadcast any future options or decision 382 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 11: from the president on national television. 383 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 8: So just a few hours ago, Trump tweeted out help 384 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 8: is on the way, and he urged people in Iran 385 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 8: to keep protesting and take over their institutions. He said, 386 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 8: save the names of the killers and abusers. They will 387 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 8: pay a big price. He's canceled all meetings with Iranian officials. 388 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 8: And then you had the German chancellor who came out 389 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 8: and said that it appears the regime is in their 390 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 8: final days and weeks, and it's looking more and more 391 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 8: like possibly America will get involved. 392 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 1: All right, let's take a bur when we come back. 393 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: Bill Maher is mocking his celebrity friends who wore the 394 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: pins at the Golden Globe. That's pretty funny. 395 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 2: Robert F. 396 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: Kennedy Junior talking about lowering healthcare costs, and then this 397 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: Washington State senator refuses to admit that there are biological 398 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: differences between men and women. 399 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 2: We got some great audio on the way for your. 400 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 6: Next It's KENNILLN. Casey on ninety three WYBC. 401 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,239 Speaker 2: Bill Maher is laughing at his Hollywood friends, and you know, like, 402 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 2: by the way, it's kety case show. I'm right, Casey's 403 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 2: back today. 404 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: One of the things I appreciate I appreciate about mar 405 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: Is and I've always said nobody should have any sympathy 406 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: for mar because he helped create the monster. So when 407 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: when doctor Frankenstein saw the monster get out of control, right, 408 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,959 Speaker 1: you put it together, mar in the era of Trump 409 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: in the first term, emboldened all these lunatic people who 410 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: he knew were mentally not all there and gendam all up. Well, 411 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: then it got totally out of control, especially with the 412 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: me too stuff, and he's like, well, I'm a sixty 413 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: year old white guy who cracks jokes at everyone. They're 414 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: probably coming for me next. And he tried to pivot 415 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 1: and go, whoah ooah, you people are taking it way 416 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: too far. 417 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 8: So he's like a Homer Simpson now backing into the field. 418 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 2: Because he knows what's going on. 419 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,239 Speaker 1: He's a liberal, but he knows a lot of these 420 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: people are completely insane and completely ridiculous, and to his credit, 421 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: he will point it out. I think a lot of 422 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: it's done out of sort of self survival rather than 423 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: some altruistic cause. 424 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 2: But so at the what was this the Golden Globes. 425 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 2: These award zones are so irrelevant. 426 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 3: Now. 427 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 2: I didn't even know. 428 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 1: Until I heard about this, these pins. I didn't even 429 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: know they were going on. But these people are so 430 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: invested in themselves and they think they're so important, and 431 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: they think it's like still nineteen eighty five, and people 432 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: give a damn about them that they wore these pins 433 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: that said be good on them. And this was in 434 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: support of this lunatic woman who tried to run the 435 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: ice guy over with the car and got shot. 436 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 6: Correct. 437 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 8: Yeah, they were a tribute to her, and he said 438 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 8: it was a terrible thing, but wearing a pin was unnecessary. 439 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, listen. 440 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: So here's the audio of Mary gets asked on the 441 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: red carpet about the pins. 442 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 6: Mark Ruffalo and some Wanda Sykes also wearing a Bee 443 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 6: Good pin for Rene Good obviously and trying to use 444 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 6: this platform for activism. 445 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 3: Do you feel that's effective or no? 446 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 12: Come on, we're just seeing it for show business today. 447 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 12: You know, it was a terrible thing that happened, and 448 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 12: it shouldn't have happened, and if they didn't act like 449 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 12: such thugs, it wouldn't have had to happen. But I 450 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,199 Speaker 12: don't need to wear a pin about it. 451 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Now you notice he's got to get he can't see, 452 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: and this is where he feeds the beast, but then 453 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: acts like he's above the beast. 454 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 9: See. 455 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 8: He gives his opinion, right, but says, but that's where 456 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 8: I draw the line. 457 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 3: Right. 458 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: He makes all these inflammatory statements about ice, right, and 459 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: and the and the federal officials trying to piece the drugs. 460 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: But then oh, look at these guys with me, they're 461 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: so ridiculous big. But because I'm not wearing a pin, 462 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: I'm not ridiculous, right, I don't have. 463 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 8: To wear a pin and show it off. There seems 464 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 8: to be some growing tension between some of the political 465 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 8: activist and the celebrities. You had the host, what was 466 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 8: her name, Wanda Sykes. 467 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 2: Yes, she said, well, it's not been funny in twenty years, right. 468 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,959 Speaker 8: She said she liked what Bill Maher was doing, but 469 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 8: that was enough and now he needs because what he 470 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 8: didn't get on board with her she was wearing the pin. 471 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 6: It just reminds me of that Seinfeld episode who does 472 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 6: not want to wear z ribbon? 473 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 1: Well, and this is it should be a lesson to 474 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: people that no matter how much you placate these. 475 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 2: Not enough, it's never going to be enough. 476 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can give them everything they asked for, and 477 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: they're going to want more. It's never ever enough. 478 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 8: So in their mind, he said the right thing, but 479 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 8: he didn't wear the ribbon absolutely or the button. It's 480 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 8: it's the new changing your profile pick to whatever flag. 481 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 2: Right. Okay, it's a audio here from Robert F. Kennedy Junior. 482 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: Actually had this on yesterday's template but just just didn't 483 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: get to it. And they were talking about I can't 484 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: remember what show he was on. Maybe it was Fox. 485 00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: I can't remember. 486 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 2: Anyway, he was acting it was was Fox. 487 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, it was Fox, and he was talking about 488 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: healthcare costs in the United States. 489 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 2: Of course, Robert F. 490 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: Kennedy Junior, he is the the HHS Secretary, And I 491 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: know you take issue a little bit with this, and 492 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: so do I because it's great to. 493 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 2: Identify us for different reasons. 494 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: Well, but it's a great identify it from my perspective, 495 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: it's great identify solution. However, your solution has to be reasonable, 496 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: and because of the way government has made everything unaffordable, 497 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: I'm not sure the solution is reasonable. 498 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 5: Take a listen, you know, we're spending five trillion dollars 499 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 5: annually on health. We spend three times per capital what 500 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 5: European countries do, and we have the worst health outcomes 501 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 5: and it's mainly driven by food about forty cents. And 502 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 5: every taxpayer dollar now goes it now goes to food 503 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 5: induced chronic diseases. 504 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 2: So the only way that we're. 505 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 5: Going to lower healthcare costs in this country is by 506 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 5: helping Americans to change their diet and eat healthy food. 507 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 5: And this is in the first major step. 508 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: Okay, the problem from me, and I know you got 509 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: your own issue with this too. Healthy food is super expensive. Yeah, 510 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: and even I'm talking about like just steaks or something 511 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 1: like that. I'm talking about fish, the salmon, good chicken, 512 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: like all of. 513 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 2: This stuff that he's saying, Oh, you should just eat that. Okay. 514 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: If we come from a gajillionaire legacy family like you, 515 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 1: you're probably not worried about the cost of things. The 516 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: cost of fruit is super expensive, like it is by 517 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: the way, for some reason, though bananas are not. I 518 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: can't figure that out why bananas have not like super 519 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: elevated in price, but a lot, a lot of food, 520 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 1: especially if you don't have time to cut it up 521 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: yourself if it's the pack like it is, Like, dude, 522 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: we don't all have servants around us like you. We 523 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: don't all have a gajillion dollars like you. You want 524 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: people to start eating healthy, people eat like crap a 525 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: lot of times. One because they don't have time because 526 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: they're with their work and then their kids and everything else. 527 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: But two they don't have the money to be able. 528 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 2: To do it. 529 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, the food companies should make it so 530 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 8: easy convenience. You're trading that off for a healthier choice. 531 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 8: But my issue isn't so much the cost with it. 532 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 8: It's you've got to get the GMOs out of the 533 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 8: food and get back to all of the heirloom seeds. 534 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 6: And you know, if you want. 535 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 8: To eat healthy, Okay, you're talking about lean proteins right 536 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 8: with good chicken and seafood. 537 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 6: You want to get your own mega threes? Okay, so 538 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 6: what are you talking about. 539 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 8: You're talking about eating antibiotic fed chicken. You're talking about 540 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 8: high mercury fish. Are we talking about fruits and vegetables? Okay, 541 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 8: but first wash it off to get the pesticides off 542 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 8: of it. With your fluoroid induced water and why is 543 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 8: it that obesity is an American issue. There are so 544 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 8: many people who are gluten intolerant, but they can buy 545 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 8: Russian flour and they don't have a problem. How come 546 00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 8: something like Crohn's disease doesn't even exist in Europe. We 547 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 8: don't have these issues. It is our food. Yeah, we 548 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,959 Speaker 8: have to make better choices. But it's so much deeper 549 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 8: than just the food pyramid. It's how our food is agged. 550 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 1: Speaking of food, I'm getting ready to go to my 551 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: homeway from home, the Brownsburg Arvy's right at I will be. 552 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 2: There from twelve thirty to one. 553 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 6: You're gonna have some process seed, you know. 554 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: Look, here's how loved I am at the by the way, 555 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: I will be there from twelve thirty to one thirty. Today, 556 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 1: I'm leaving, Susan. Get done with the show. And if 557 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: you live in the Brownsburg town limits, come to the 558 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,959 Speaker 1: Brownsburg Arby's you can sign the city status form. We 559 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 1: are and we have a campaign going casey don't if 560 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: you know about this. It's the free Glen Adams campaign. 561 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: Glenn Adams is the member of the Brownsburg Town Council 562 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: who they turned off his key to town hall. He 563 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,959 Speaker 1: can't get in the town hall now because he did 564 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: an interview in the town hall about the city status 565 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: ballot petition. 566 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 6: Who did he do the interview with the interview with 567 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 6: you no Wish. 568 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 2: TV or news gathering partners. They got mad. 569 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: The town council got mad because we're doing very well, 570 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: We're getting all these signature and they got mad. And 571 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: there's nothing they can do to me because I don't 572 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: work for the town and I'm not an elected person. 573 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: And so when they look at Glenn, they see me. 574 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: So they just turned off his key. 575 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 6: So we can't get in. 576 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 2: No no now. 577 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: A couple a couple months ago, our old pal Travis 578 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: to Shane, you remember him, Lord Travis, the high ruler 579 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: of the town. He did an interview in the town 580 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: hall and that about the pool where he said there 581 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: was going to be a referendum potentially for the pool. 582 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 1: The council said, that's crazy, We're not doing that. But 583 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,959 Speaker 1: that was apparently okay, I folt a public records request 584 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 1: by that for that information yesterday. 585 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 2: By the way, now Travis is the one with the. 586 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 1: Protective order against him that is still active by the 587 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: state website, and he's allowed to come and go in 588 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: town hall whenever he wants. 589 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 2: But our buddy Glenn so wet. 590 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: We have started the free Glenn at Councilman Glenn Adams 591 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: campaign to get these signatures for the city status. And 592 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: so I will be at the Arby's from twelve thirty 593 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: to one third. Even want to stop by, shoot the breeze. 594 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: You can hang out. You stay for two minutes, you 595 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 1: stay for ten minutes, however you want. I'll be there 596 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: twelve thirty to one thirty. 597 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 2: They locked him out, and they locked him out. I 598 00:27:58,600 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 2: know he needs to. 599 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: Sue them because I filed the public wreck because they 600 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: tried to say, oh, there's this ordinance blah blah blah. 601 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: They can't produce any of it because you'll find Amelia 602 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: Earhartz Remains before you'll find any of these ordinances or 603 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: anything else close to this. 604 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 2: They're mad at him. 605 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: They're pissed off because people are pissed off at the 606 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: town government. They're signing our petition left and right. People 607 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 1: were very excited about it, and so they're like, well, 608 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: just lock him out, it'll be fine. We can't stand 609 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: the fact that there's a tension because people don't like 610 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: the way we're doing it. So anyway, I'll point that 611 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: is said Arby's. Look, I think Arby's food is a 612 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: little bit better than McDonald's. Maybe I've just made that up, 613 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: but I do think it's a little bit better than 614 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: McDonald I think. 615 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 8: You're talking about a clear case of somebody lacking or 616 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 8: not wanting accountability. 617 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 6: Well, that's right, yeah, or transfers the thirty one. 618 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: Okay, anyway, real quick before we go to break, I 619 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: had this one other clip and I was hoping you'd 620 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: come back today because I knew this would fire you up. 621 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: So this is a There was the Washington State government, 622 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: the like big players in the in the Washington State government, 623 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: they had a media availability our our house and Senate 624 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: leaders do this too. And this Washington State senator gets 625 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: asked if there's a biological difference between men and women, 626 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: and the left has become so insane that this guy 627 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: refuses to admit that there is an actual biological difference 628 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: between men and women. 629 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 13: Senator Peterson, you said at the beginning that one of 630 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 13: the key priorities for Senate Democrats would be to make 631 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 13: sure science is respected. Can you acknowledge that there are 632 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 13: biological differences between men and women that would give boys 633 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 13: a physical advantage over girls in athletics. 634 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 14: No, I don't think I could say that definitively. First 635 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 14: of all, I'm not that. I don't have the scientific 636 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 14: expertise to be able to weigh in on that based 637 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 14: on what I know, a lot of many of the 638 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 14: kids who participate in athletics who are transgender are taking puberty. 639 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 14: Bocker started taking hormones that probably change the scientific balance 640 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 14: about competitiveness. So I don't have the tools or the 641 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 14: training to be able to weigh in and offer a 642 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 14: scientific conclusion about that, but I think that there is 643 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 14: some reason to be skeptical of that claim. 644 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 13: Thank you, would you be willing to make that a requirement? 645 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 6: We need, sorry, we need. 646 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 2: At the fall we're here. 647 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 6: So is he trying to get a position on the 648 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 6: Supreme Court? 649 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 2: I'm not a biologist that that. 650 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: I mean that is the left that it comes back 651 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: to again, if you're these Democrats And I've told multiple 652 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: Democrats this now that have because look, I'll talk to anybody, 653 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: right so you know, Democrats reach out all the time 654 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: and say what do you think about this? We think 655 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: about that? And I tell them all the same thing. 656 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: You guys are restrained. You are bound by lunatics who 657 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: are the vocal part of your party. Look, I think 658 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: there's a lot of Democrats that are sort of middle 659 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: of the road people. I still don't agree with them politically, 660 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: but I think they're far more reasonable and decent than 661 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: the radical left. The problem is the radical left is 662 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: the voice, is the face, is the base. 663 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 2: Of your party. 664 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: And most people when they think of Democrats, now that 665 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: guy is what they think of. Who will not admit 666 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: the most obvious thing in the world, which is there 667 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: are biological differences between men and women, and how do 668 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: you overcome that? 669 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're. 670 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: A bow bye, I come back to this, that guy 671 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: would probably be infinitely better than Diego Morales. Look, an 672 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: aged orange Peel would be infinitely better than Diego Morales. 673 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: And most people who know who he is based on 674 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: polling that's come out, know what a rotten, horrible, disgusting 675 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: person Diego Morales is. But then they see what they 676 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: associate with Democrats being and they go, well, I guess 677 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: I'll just have to deal with rotten and disgusting and underhanded. 678 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 8: And it makes you wonder what he would say. Uh, 679 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 8: in the comfort of his in his own home. Right, 680 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 8: if he were asked the same question, does. 681 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 2: He believe this or is he so bound to the lyrics? 682 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 6: Right, is that truly his conviction? 683 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 8: Or when he's just you know, at his own house, 684 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 8: he is saying the same thing. 685 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: Let's take a break before I wrap up the show. 686 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: You will not believe how much a Larry Bird jersey 687 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: sold for Casey. 688 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 2: This is unbelievable. 689 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 6: Okay, it's Kennel and Casey. It's ninety three WIBC. 690 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 2: So you won't believe how much this Larry Bird jersey just. 691 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 6: Went for sold at auction for a lot of money. 692 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 2: Huh. It's the Kennell and Casey showing rob Casey's back ahead. 693 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 8: This is one that he wore during the nineteen eighty 694 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 8: seven Eastern Conference playoffs. 695 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, so up the Celtics. 696 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: Obviously, many people around here became big Boston Celtics fans 697 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: because of Larry Bird Indiana State and then played high 698 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: school basketball in Indiana, and so many many Hoosiers became 699 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: huge Boston Celtics fans, especially if you were a you 700 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: know around in the nineteen eighties, and the Celtics of 701 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: course won three championship This was not one of the 702 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: years they won the championship. 703 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 2: This was they lost in the other year. 704 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, they lost in the conference in the NBA Finals 705 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: to the Los Angeles Lakers in six games. 706 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 2: But this, as you said, was. 707 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: The game the game Warren jersey by Larry Bird, which 708 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: he wore. In at least what they call it photo 709 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: matching in the sports labelia industry. They photo matched this 710 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: to at least seven games that he It could have 711 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: been more, but they have identified at least seven in 712 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: April and May of nineteen eighty seven, and Casey this 713 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: item went for five hundred and twenty four thousand, six 714 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: hundred dollars fantastic. 715 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,959 Speaker 8: I want to know who bought it and if they 716 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 8: would like some sports illustrateds. 717 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 2: The collectables for those who don't know. 718 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: Casey's husband makes his living buying, selling, and pressing sports illustrateds. Now, 719 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: what's interesting is Heritage Auctions did this, did this member 720 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: of this piece of memorabilia and it had elevated It 721 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: started out Indy started a did a piece on this 722 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: in December, early December because this thing had wrapped up 723 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: in late December, and it went from one hundred and 724 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: seventy five thousand dollars, then to half a million, yea 725 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 1: to well over half a million dollars. 726 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 8: Yeah, so and they're saying that it's more valuable obviously 727 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 8: because it was a game worn jersey. But it does 728 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 8: show you that Larry Bird still has an enduring legacy 729 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 8: and people are still willing to drop big bucks on 730 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 8: his merch. 731 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 2: You know what. 732 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: One of the it was this interesting, So the guy, 733 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: what do they what's his name, mister mister fabulous, mister wonderful, 734 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: Kevin O'Leary, Kevin O'Leary. And I saw an interview that 735 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: he did. He has gotten into sports cards. And of 736 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: course he's not buying like he's not going to your 737 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,240 Speaker 1: local card store and buying you know, tops, tops packs. 738 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: He's he's buying million stuff that's selling for millions of dollars, 739 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: tens of millions of dollars. And he was talking about 740 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 1: like why he's doing this, and he said basically, and 741 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 1: I can't remember if he artifacts was the word that 742 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: he used, but he basically was saying, hundreds of years 743 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 1: from now, people will look at sports memorabilia the way 744 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: we find things that are like in the in the 745 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: ground or from fields of battle or things or I 746 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: think artifacts is maybe the word that he used, but 747 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: he was basically saying the sports memorabilia market will someday 748 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 1: become the way we view these other things that are 749 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: getting found after hundreds of years. 750 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, he said it's a good way to divest his portfolio. 751 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 8: And I think he compared it to some people collect 752 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 8: works of art, like a Jackson Pollock, where he's collecting these, 753 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 8: you know, baseball cards or magazines. I keep telling my 754 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 8: husband Jim, he needs to start tagging some of these whales. 755 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, we find that's interesting. 756 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 8: You know who else has really gotten into it lately 757 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 8: is Ron DeSantis, governor of Florida. 758 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 6: He's been posting a lot about it as well. 759 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: Now you know, he was, of course a great athlete. 760 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: He played in the Little League World Series. Ronda Santis did, right. 761 00:35:59,320 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 2: He did. 762 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 1: So what's fasting is there's a show. And I told 763 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 1: your husband because he needed things to do while you 764 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,439 Speaker 1: were while he was taking care of you. This Ken 765 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: Golden is the guy's name. Golden Auctions is the company, 766 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: and Netflix has its I believe it's in this third 767 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: season now, a behind the scenes documentary type show on 768 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: Golden Auctions, and they sell sorts of stuff that they 769 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: sell everything with al Capone's gun, you know, Pokemon stuff like, 770 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 1: they don't just do sports stuff. But what's fascinating is 771 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: how many people are now and famous people are in 772 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: the memorabilia game because they're the tippy top guys at 773 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 1: Golden they're always looking to and of course it's a 774 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 1: TV show, so they want them on the show, et cetera. 775 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: But these famous people that they're looking to sell stuff too, 776 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 1: and so I just think it's it's fasting. So you 777 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: were just about five hundred thousand others short. That jersey 778 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 1: could have been yours. 779 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 6: Darn it. 780 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 1: Hey, I'm so excited for tomorrow because I don't have 781 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: to do the template anymore. 782 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 3: You're you're back. 783 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 6: Thank you, Rob, thank you, Kevin, Thank you for listening today. 784 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 6: This has been The Kendall and Casey Show on ninety 785 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 6: three E W I D C 786 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 4: M HM