1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Casey, there's a political fight brewing, and I'm here for. 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 2: Of course you are. You always have a front row seat, 3 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 2: don't you. 4 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: Ah. We love a good old fashioned political brawl, and 5 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: it looks like we're going to get one out in 6 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: the fourth Congressional District. That's where I live. 7 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:12,239 Speaker 2: I know. 8 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: These are my peeps. Big announcement yesterday, Craig Haggard, he 9 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: is an Indiana state representative. He has announced he is 10 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: running for Congress against incumbent Jim Baird in the fourth 11 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: Congressional district. Had a big, big get together last night 12 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: and Craig Haggard joins us. Now, Craig, Hello, Hello, good morning. 13 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: All right, So, the first question I have to anybody 14 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: who subjects themselves to running for any sort of public office, 15 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: much less something as large as Congress, why would you 16 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: want to do that to yourself? 17 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 3: Well, A lot of people ask me that I'm joking 18 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 3: and say, maybe too many injuries in the Marine Corps 19 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 3: question my judgment, But in all seriousness, it's because I 20 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 3: would just want to continue to serve. I serve here 21 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 3: in Indiana, and I know we have some issues. You 22 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 3: guys bring those up and keep us in check and 23 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 3: by in Jim. I think Indiana is a really good state. 24 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 3: I think our issues, our problems, our serious problems, are 25 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 3: in d C. And I want to go out there 26 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 3: and be one of those folks that actually care about 27 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 3: the oath I took to the Constitution. 28 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: Craig Haggard's our guest. You know it's Histerday's running for 29 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: Congress in the fourth Congressional District against Jim Baird. Now, 30 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: the big rumor was that Jim Baird was setting this 31 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: thing up for his son, Bo Baird. Obviously he is 32 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: a state rep as well out in Putnam County. He's 33 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: got a litany of issues that we've laid out on 34 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: this program. But now Bo Baird, I saw a post 35 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: on social media the other day said no, I'm not 36 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: running for Congress. So it looks like it's you against 37 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: the old man. 38 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 3: Well that's what it looks like. At the end of 39 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 3: the day. I said to someone that asked me a 40 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 3: while back, who are you running against? And I said, 41 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure I'm running against a Baard. I just 42 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,919 Speaker 3: don't know which one. And if this is if Jim's running, 43 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 3: if the congressman's running, then so be it. It doesn't 44 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 3: really change the trajectory of what I'm doing, the work 45 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 3: I'm going to put into it. I'm running because I 46 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 3: believe I could do a better job, and so at 47 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 3: the end of the day, what they do or don't 48 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 3: do doesn't really change what I'm doing. 49 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: I'm wondering how things went last night. You made the 50 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: announcement last night at Humble Park. So what was the reception? 51 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 3: You know, it was great. I mean it was a 52 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 3: wonderful turnout, well over one hundred folks there. I had veterans, 53 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 3: I had people from different supporting groups, sheriffs, mayors, council folks, friends, family. 54 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 3: It was a great event. It turned out really really well. 55 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: What do you run on, because obviously Jim Barrett has 56 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: been a rubber stamp for pretty much just whatever the 57 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: Republican leadership in the House wants, And what do you 58 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: run on? Do you go against that? How does that 59 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: play in a Republican primary? What does a campaign look 60 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: like for you? 61 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 3: Well, I think the big difference and I think you've 62 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 3: seen this with my time in the state House, I'm 63 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 3: definitely not a rubber stamp. I vote with the caucus, 64 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 3: I vote against the caucus. I vote for things that 65 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 3: I believe is a best entrance of the constituents and 66 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 3: what I believe constitutionally, And I think that's what I 67 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 3: would the difference I would take to DC. I don't 68 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 3: want to be one of the what they call exotics 69 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 3: who just screams and wants news time things like that. 70 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 3: I want to govern. But if it means good ideas 71 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 3: are coming from one side to the other, I don't care. 72 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 3: As long as it's a good idea, that's and that's 73 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 3: what I want to do. That's I think that's the difference. 74 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 3: And it doesn't mean being that rubber stamp. 75 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think a great example of that is you 76 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: guys in the house were ordered This happens a lot 77 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: casey people are ordered not to communicate or support me 78 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: in any shape, form or fashion. And you guys were 79 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: basically ordered, don't go to that property tax, really, don't 80 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: speak at it. Don't give those guys any credit. And 81 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: you and Andrew Ireland and Jad Prescott before he turned 82 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: down and stabbed us in the back. But at least 83 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: you and Andrew Ireland were two of three people who 84 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: know only went to that property tax rally. You ultimately 85 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: voted against that bad property tax bill, and Craig, I 86 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: think that says a lot about your willingness to do 87 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: what's right, not what's easy. 88 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 3: Well, I got to tell you it was. It's one 89 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 3: of those things where a lot of people think it's 90 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 3: tough and I don't. I just I try to do 91 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 3: what's right. But at the same time, I don't try 92 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 3: to throw it in their face because we still have 93 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 3: to govern. Because I'm sure I guarantee I've either done 94 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 3: things in the past or i'll do things in the 95 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 3: future that you guys will probably give me grief over. 96 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and that's you know, and that's fine, that's 97 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 3: that's a check in balance, right. I don't get all 98 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 3: that's set about that. I mean, I tried, and I guarantee. 99 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 3: I think I said it before and I said it 100 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 3: last night. The only guarantee I can give you in congresses, 101 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 3: I'm going to work my butt off and I'm sure 102 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 3: i'll screw something up, but I'm sure I'll learn from 103 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 3: it and then admit to those mistakes and try to 104 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 3: not you know, do that again and answer to the people. 105 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 3: So I think that's a background of my military maybe 106 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 3: fight or pilot background. When you get in from everything. 107 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 3: You debrief, you say what you did wrong. If it's 108 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 3: bad enough, you brief the squadron. It's not a punishment. 109 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 3: It's because you're self evaluating. Hey, we can't be successful 110 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 3: without some failures. And I think that's okay. 111 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: Do you do you really want me as your constituent? 112 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't. Are you ready for that? Jelly? 113 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 3: I think I'm stuck with you, right. You know you're 114 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 3: my cousin. You're my second cousin at the family pic nick. 115 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 3: Now I do want that, because that's fine. I don't 116 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 3: mind the tough questions. If I go on something just 117 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 3: softball questions or this or that, then you know what 118 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 3: does that say about me? And so no beat me up? 119 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 3: That's all right, Craig. 120 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: I'd like to change directions and ask for your input 121 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: on the redistricting talk. Where are you with that? 122 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 3: So you know, I know the vice president came in 123 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 3: and from our understanding, they didn't demand, they didn't threaten. 124 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 3: They just said, hey, we want you to consider this, 125 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 3: and which I appreciate. And I know the leadership talked 126 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 3: to us and said, hey, we want you to do 127 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 3: a deep vibe. Talked to your fellow legislators, talk to 128 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 3: your constituents, and I've reached out to a bunch of 129 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 3: a tremendous amount of folks who reached out to me. 130 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 3: We've talked on the phone with each other as far 131 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 3: as other House members, and you know, I look at 132 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 3: Indiana and I you know, we have seven out of 133 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 3: nine seats we voted for Trump the last three times 134 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 3: represents Steerwald, who carried the bill that redistrict few years back, 135 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 3: did it with such care that I think we were 136 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 3: one of the few states that didn't get sued. I 137 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 3: think we're really good. And I, you know, I I 138 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 3: if I had to guess, if I'm in Vegas, I'm 139 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 3: thinking it's probably not going to happen. And so you know, 140 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 3: that's that's where we are with that. It's kind of 141 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 3: an unknown right now, but we have a short time 142 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 3: period for this to happen. But I think I don't 143 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 3: think we'll see anything happen. 144 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: To be honest, Craig, have you heard from anybody that's 145 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: in your in the either the House or the Senate 146 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: that's like super fired up about doing this. 147 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 2: Now? 148 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, I've heard really nobody who's 149 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 3: I think Andrew Ireland put out a post that he's 150 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 3: for it, and trust me, I understand. I understand that 151 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 3: they have been jerremandering, you know, the other lad has 152 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 3: for a while and the hypocrisy of them scream screaming 153 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 3: about it is is kind of ridiculous. But we are that, 154 00:06:58,080 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 3: you know. It's one of those things do we are 155 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 3: we We're going to go back to the childhood argument, 156 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 3: Well they're doing it, we should do it? Or do 157 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 3: we want to be a model of what we should do? 158 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 3: And that's kind of how that's that's the perspective I 159 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 3: look at when I look at the redistricting issue. 160 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: All right, well, we're expecting we need show content, Craig. 161 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: So we're expecting a very uh, fireworks oriented primary. We 162 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: expect all sorts of controversial statements and we want to 163 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: be the first place you make all of them. So 164 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: can we count on you for that? 165 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 3: Oh you can count on me. I'm sure it'll be 166 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 3: a circus. 167 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. Hey, where can people learn more 168 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: about your race for Congress if they want to do that? 169 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 3: Hagrid for Congress dot Com. 170 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: All right, there you go, Craig Haggard, Thank you, my friend. 171 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,239 Speaker 2: All Right, thanks, guys, it's Kennell and Casey. It's ninety 172 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 2: three w IBC. 173 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: So am I supposed to do some sort of celebratory 174 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: dance Because Braun made another new government agency. 175 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 2: The governor announced Julie Q. Smith is the first director 176 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: of Indiana's Office of School Safety. 177 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: So I mean, like, I like, how many of these 178 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: new things? For all, for all the huffing and puffing 179 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: that Braun did about I'm a business guy and I'm 180 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: going to run the state like a business. We created 181 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: all these new agencies. He created new agency heads, He 182 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: consolidated this, He brought this person in for that. What 183 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,239 Speaker 1: happened to the state government. It was a dumpster fire 184 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: this year, like it's a dumpster fire every other year. 185 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: And in fact it might have even been worse because 186 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: they were two and a half billion off their projections. 187 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: So like, what about so this person and nothing against her, 188 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: I'm sure she's a fine, fine individual, but they're just this. 189 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: He created what's it called the Secured No, this was 190 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: the existing there was already a thing called the Secured 191 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: School Safety Board. 192 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 2: It's going to be absorbed into this new office by 193 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 2: Braun's Office of School Safety. 194 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 1: To get the Capitol Chronicles, amongst others, is a big 195 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: expos on this. And basically what they do is they 196 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: seminate grant money. Yep, right, the twenty four million dollars 197 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 1: to five hundred Indiana schools. It's going up this year 198 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: to over twenty seven million dollars. Correct, And that's fine. 199 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 2: This board works under the Department of Homeland Security. 200 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: So I mean, it's just one layer of are you 201 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: noticing this. It's one layer of government, another layer of government, 202 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: another layer of government. Like there's all the strings attached 203 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: to all this stuff, and I just I'm done, like 204 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: hearing about Bronz done this new, and Bron's done this 205 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: new and added this person as well. Clearly none of 206 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: it was any different. The state is still in the 207 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: same colossally tragic position it was before Braun took over. 208 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: He just basically like rearranges the deck chairs on the Titanic. 209 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: And I don't see anything about this other than again, 210 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 1: something for the sake of doing something that's going to 211 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: make Indiana that much more proficient or better or anything else. 212 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: The Office of School Safety. It's part of Braun's public 213 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 2: safety agenda. The thing I noticed was when he tweeted 214 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 2: out about it. He said, during my State of the 215 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 2: State address, I promised that I would focus on school safety. 216 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 2: It would be a top priority for me. You remember 217 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 2: what else he mentioned in that State of the State address? 218 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 3: Uh? 219 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: He said, boy, keV, can you find because I know 220 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: what you're getting at. He said he was gonna get 221 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: property taxes. One good shot, one good shot. 222 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 2: Now, keV, could you find Party tax reform? 223 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: Could you find the Chris Hansen interviewing Mike Braun because 224 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 1: that piece of audio is in the Uh. Okay, keV 225 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: has it? So for those of you don't know, or 226 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: most of you know, but for those of you who 227 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 1: were paying attention or were on vacation or whatever. After 228 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: Braun lied to everyone and screwed seven million people and 229 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 1: basically stuck both of his middle fingers in our face, 230 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: which he's doing again, by the way, that he's even 231 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: pondering a special session for redistricting, after telling us during 232 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: property tax reform, there's no point in this. It doesn't 233 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,239 Speaker 1: do any good. It's just it would be a colossal 234 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: waste of time and taxpayer money. We dubbed Mike Brawn 235 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: and the Republicans financial predators, and we said, it's time 236 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: to start catching some of these financial predators. And if 237 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: you're going to catch a predator, who better than friend 238 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: of the show Chris Hansen. And this is what we 239 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: came up with. I'm Chris Hansen, and this is an 240 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: investigation called Hanson versus Predator. And what is your plan? 241 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 2: Your time? 242 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 4: We cannot accept rising property taxes as an unfortunate fact 243 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 4: of life or explore every avenue to reduce the burden 244 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 4: on hard working who's your families? 245 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 2: How do we do this? 246 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: I guarantee you that we're going to give. 247 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 4: It one good shot at getting that back in place 248 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 4: where it needs to be. 249 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: This does not look very good for you. 250 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 4: We got a lot over the finish line in the 251 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 4: last two to three days, which was basically late last week. 252 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: Let's see if any of this sounds familiar. 253 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 4: While you enjoy your piece centers, we can let government 254 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 4: in efficiencies impede our success or reshaped government to sincerely 255 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 4: serve the people. 256 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: How about that? Has it line ever worked for you before? 257 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 4: So I campaigned on this, made it the number one issue. 258 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: Do you see how this looks? 259 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 4: In a state like Indiana? Your veto means nothing other 260 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 4: than symbolic and there's no guarantee that you get anything 261 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 4: out of it. So if there's anything else you want 262 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 4: people to know, anything you want to say, now, it 263 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 4: would be a good time to say too many seniors 264 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 4: and young families are getting priced out of their homes 265 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 4: due to run away property taxes. I heard it for 266 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 4: two years on end. 267 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: How does this look? How does that look? If you 268 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: were me? What would you think? 269 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 4: You can make that point? I respect it. 270 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: There's something you need to do, and that is on 271 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: Chris Hansen, and this is an investigation called Hanson versus. 272 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 4: I will be signing it. 273 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: Yes, just a reminder of how the governor lied right 274 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: to your face. And now when it comes to smooching 275 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: Trump's butt cheeks and jamming his nose as far in 276 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: between them as he can. Oh, he's open to that 277 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: special session for that. Boys and girls, all day, every day, 278 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: help you afford to stay in your home. 279 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 2: Heck no, okay. Another story came out yesterday, and this 280 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 2: one I don't like it at all. 281 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 1: Uh oh yeah. 282 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: Illinois becomes the first date to mandate annual mental health 283 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 2: screenings for public school students in grades three through twelve. 284 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: What does that mean? 285 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 2: This law is going to take effect in the twenty 286 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 2: seven to twenty eight school year, and parents can opt 287 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 2: their children out of the screenings. Oh, the screenings will 288 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 2: be self conducted via digital or pay per forms. They're 289 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 2: intended to flag early signs of depression, anxiety or trauma, 290 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 2: not diagnose them. 291 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: And then what let's say your kid answers something and 292 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: they have an early sign of that, what does like 293 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: the DCS people show up or like what why is 294 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: this the school's job? That's your job as a parent, right, 295 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: I mean. 296 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 2: Doesn't it seem like it's a bit of an overstep. 297 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: Well, and that's my question is what's the end goal 298 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: with this? Like why is the school? Why is the 299 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: government at all qualified to be engaging in this? And 300 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: what's some generic answer on a piece of paper is? 301 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: And then what you like, I said, then what you 302 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: send in the send in the in the army? 303 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 4: Like what what? 304 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: Why? Why would you do this? Yeah, I'm with you. 305 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: This sounds like a horrible idea. 306 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 2: The state superintendent said that this is a shift from 307 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: reaction to prevention in regards to students' mental health. This 308 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 2: is the job of mom and dad. 309 00:14:54,920 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, and this is another example of the 310 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: government trying to usurp your that authority say that we 311 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: know better, and I would be I mean, and then 312 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: here's the thing you can opt out. 313 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 2: For now right now, I'm I'm all for normalizing mental health. 314 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 2: But another thing to consider with this is that this 315 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 2: could create some issues with your insurance coverage as well. 316 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: Well, right, that's an interesting It's interesting that you would 317 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: say that because, let's say the government identifies your kid, 318 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, junior, based on answer to question twenty 319 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: seven is the dire need of some sort of mental 320 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: health counseling? Well, who's paying for that? Or does that 321 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: become your responsibility? Does the government get to dictate that? 322 00:15:55,720 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: And I come back to the fact that you're in 323 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: charge of your kid. That's your job. And this sounds 324 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: like something that will not be able to opt out 325 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: of in the not too distant future. 326 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 2: There is good news in Indiana schools the twenty four 327 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 2: to twenty five I Read scores. They showed the largest 328 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 2: year to year improvement since testing began in twenty thirteen. 329 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: Eighty seven point three percent of third graders demonstrated reading proficiency, 330 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 2: up nearly five percentage points from last year. It's the 331 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 2: highest proficiency rate since before the pandemic. 332 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: There's too many of these standards. It seems like every 333 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: week we're reading a different thing and it seems to 334 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: be giving a different result. There's too many of these standards. 335 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: We got to pick one thing and go with it 336 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: because there's two, right, I mean, it doesn't it seem 337 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: like every week there's some new story about reading or math, 338 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: and sometimes it's up and sometimes it's down, and sometimes 339 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: it's you know, pass or sometimes it's like there's too 340 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: many of these to keep track of. Kids should be 341 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 1: able to read by the third grade. They should probably 342 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,719 Speaker 1: be able to read by a certain level by the 343 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: third grade. If they can't, they probably need more help. 344 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: But I just am I just an old man who 345 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: yells at clouds. Were saying, there's just too many of 346 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,239 Speaker 1: these things. That seems like we get one of these 347 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: stories in the Capitol Chronicle every single week? Am I 348 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: imagining that? No? 349 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 2: It does seem like there's always something coming out about 350 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 2: this And is this a situation where this is how 351 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 2: they're doing their proof of performance justifying. 352 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: I think there's too many tests. I think we have. 353 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: I think we have and I'm not saying this is 354 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: somebody with all the answers, right, but I think you know, 355 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: Tony Kennet would be a great guy to talk with 356 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 1: this about obviously because he was he was a teacher. 357 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: I think we've gutted like when when you were when 358 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: you were kid, every class was actually different, Like you 359 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: took a great interest in the summer when the announced 360 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: who your teacher was going to be, and people would 361 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: cheer for, and if you had some connected parent, you 362 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: might even try to pull some strings to get certain 363 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: teachers over others, because some were known to be mean 364 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: old ladies, some were known to be better looking than others, 365 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: and some were just because you knew, yeah, it's funny, Kevin, 366 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 1: you knew, yeah, you did that too. Even at ten, 367 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: we knew who the good looking teachers were, and some 368 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: were just because they were great teachers and they did 369 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: cool stuff. And you'd heard from kids who had come before, 370 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: maybe they had siblings or whatever that were your age, 371 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: how great that teacher was. It seems like because of 372 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: the standardized testing that we have created some sort of 373 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: just like generic blanket of what kids have to learn, 374 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: and in many ways the manner which they have to 375 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: learn it, and we've got the ability of teachers to 376 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: be special and unique. And I think we need to 377 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: get back to more of that because I think that's 378 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: how kids learn better. 379 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 2: Students who don't pass, they have to receive some science 380 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 2: of reading aligned instruction, and then they retest each and summer. 381 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,719 Speaker 1: The more the federal government over the forty years, the 382 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: more the federal government forty five years now, the more 383 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: the federal government has got involved in public education, the 384 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: worse the results have been. And you want to fix it, 385 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: that's where you got to start. You get the federal 386 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: government and the strings that come with the money and 387 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: those sort of things out of the way and let 388 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: local school districts administer education. Education should be a local 389 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: issue and have local control and the local school boards 390 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: and the local superintendents policing and administering education. There's too much. 391 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: There's too much at the state level. There's certainly too 392 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: much of the federal level of people who have nothing 393 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: to do and never step foot in the classrooms making 394 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: choices about the classrooms. 395 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 2: Somebody got a sagamore of the wallbash brom who it 396 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 2: wasn't us, Sure as hell wasn't me. We'll talk about 397 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 2: that coming up. It's ninety three WIBC. 398 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: Case. So there's the hang on a second. Just go ahead, Kevin. 399 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: It's fine. It was long ago leaving us that she 400 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: wanted to pick the music thing. I mean, you're not 401 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: leaving for good. 402 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 403 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 2: I requested a lot of Bob Segarette. 404 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you're scheduled to be back Wednesday, Like, 405 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: you're not leaving permanently. I just want to point that out. 406 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 2: Very good. 407 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: It's kind of the Case Show, Rob Casey's here. 408 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 2: For now. 409 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: Casey's like, Kevin, can you play all the Bob Seeger hits? 410 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh my gosh, how many times can 411 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: we hear? Turn the page that one? 412 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 2: I'm sure he'll line up main Street. Yeah, you know what, 413 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 2: I get a day all right? Out of all of 414 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 2: the Bruce Springsteen songs that I've endured over the years, 415 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 2: let's just play music. 416 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: People have heard nine million, eight and thirty two times. 417 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 2: There's a reason why they like it, because they're hits. 418 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 1: Okay. So there's an interesting article from Fox fifty nine 419 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 1: about these wind turbines that are coming to Blackford, Indiana. 420 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 1: So head head north from here right and you'll run 421 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: into eventually Blackford, Indiana. And I am torn on this 422 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: because I believe in personal property rights. I believe in 423 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 1: freedoms and liberties. However, I also recognize that if you're 424 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: going to do something that is going to dramatically impact 425 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: the character of the area and the future of the area, 426 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: then the public at large gets us say in that 427 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: because we all, if they live in the community, they 428 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: have a vested interest in what's going on. So I 429 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: see both sides of this in the sense of a 430 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: farmer's ability to do with his land as long as 431 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 1: it doesn't harm somebody else as he sees fit. But 432 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: then I also see the ability of the people who 433 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: live in the area to stand up to protest, to 434 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: say that doesn't work for us and what we believe 435 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: this community should be, and to have a that I 436 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: bitch all the time at town council meetings about housing developments, 437 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: about things that are going in because of the impact 438 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: they can have on me, both in my taxes, my 439 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: ability to travel infrastructure. So I see both sides of 440 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: this debate. Obviously, you know I am nostalgic for historical 441 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 1: uses of land. I believe in the idea of Indiana's 442 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 1: mission of feeding a nation. But I have a very 443 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: good friend, Farmer Ryan, who sponsors our State House Happening show, 444 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: who that's what he primarily does is he feeds a nasan, 445 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: but also part of his farm has these on them. 446 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 1: And he said it, I'm not saying anything he hasn't 447 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: said publicly on these on these airwaves. Farmer Ryan, the 448 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 1: owner of Freedom Foods Indiana, that they get so much 449 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 1: money from these people to put these things on their 450 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: property versus what they can. 451 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 2: Help subsidize, versus income. 452 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, versus what he can he gets more putting these 453 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: things on his property versus what can sell the food 454 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 1: for and he doesn't have to farm the land. He's like, 455 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily I'm not the world's greatest cheerleader of 456 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: these things, but I would be a moron with the 457 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: ability to do it in the area in which he 458 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: lives to not put them on there. So this is 459 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: a heated thing that's going on up there in Blackford, 460 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 1: and it's everywhere. And I think this debate is something 461 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: that everybody better pay attention to because these whatever we 462 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: call them, renewable energy companies are looking to get their 463 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: version of this, whether it's the solar panels or whatever, 464 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: any and everywhere possible. 465 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 2: It's the Blackford Wind Project, expected to produce energy for 466 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 2: the next thirty years. It's being developed by a Texas 467 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 2: based company and they already operate over twenty similar different 468 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 2: facilities nationwide. Construction is already underway for this and the 469 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 2: facility expected to be online by late next year. Now, 470 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 2: thet we mentioned Fox fifty nine had it. They did 471 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 2: cite some farmers and one farmer is opposing the project 472 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 2: and he says that it won't truly promote county growth. 473 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 2: Revenue will be directed towards the wrong programs, property values 474 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 2: will decline, and it also detracts from the county's agricultural heritage. 475 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is like and this is where the real 476 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: conversation comes. What what right do you have as a 477 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: resident of an area? What what right do you have? 478 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: What rights do you have to be able to impact 479 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: people to do on their property as they see And 480 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: that's the real that's the real discussion in this case. 481 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: Like you said, these farmers are making the case. It's 482 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,719 Speaker 1: going to change the character of the area. It is 483 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: not consistent with historical land use of the area. It 484 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: eliminates the ability to then do certain things with the land, 485 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: and or other people's potential ability can impact their ability. 486 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: And look, once the things are on there, that's it. 487 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: That's what the land's being used for now. The argument 488 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: I might make is, and I have no idea the 489 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 1: actual debates if these have ever been considered. If you 490 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: told me Rob, there's a large farm field near you 491 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: and that farmer, and this is part of the problem 492 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: with the farmers getting out of the game. Inflation, taxes, 493 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: the way, we don't value or instilled farming the way 494 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 1: we once did. New generations of people who have traditionally 495 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: carried on farms are getting out of the game. They 496 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: want to sell the land, they want to do something 497 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: else with it, and so they basically say, we're selling 498 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: this land one way or another. I've seen this happen 499 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: actually in Pittsburgh, which is right up the road for me. 500 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: There's a data center that's proposed to go in there. 501 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: And one of the arguments that I've been told has 502 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: been made is, Hey, these people are selling this land 503 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: and to the people community dealer's choice. You want six 504 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: hundred acres of high density how housing development where all 505 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 1: these people are going to be using you stuff, or 506 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: you want this one big ugly thing that's going to 507 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: go there and sit data set. We're getting out of 508 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 1: this game regardless, right, Yeah, And so if we're doing that, 509 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: you have got to dictate what you want the thing 510 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: to be there, because they ain't going to be a 511 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: farm field forever. And so it's a real thing people 512 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: are struggling with. So if you were to tell me, Rob, 513 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: it could be these ugly wind turbines and it'll still 514 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 1: be I mean, they're not quiet, but in terms of 515 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: traffic or whatever, or you can have a hide in 516 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: sea housingot. I guess I would take these. It just sucks. 517 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: You have to make the choice. 518 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 2: So they're saying that it helps these farmers diversify their 519 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 2: income just like you mentioned, and that the wind towers 520 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 2: they are going to generate electricity while still allowing a 521 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 2: portion of the land for agricultural use. JD. Prescott supports 522 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 2: the project. He called it a win win for local 523 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 2: and regional economic growth. 524 00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: Boy, nobody knows how to piss a constituent off like JD. Prescott. Boy, 525 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: he just he finds a way. You know. JD. Prescott's 526 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: amazing because I didn't know the human body can do this. JD. 527 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: Prescott is one of the few guys that at the 528 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: same time can both insert his foot in his mouth 529 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: and up between his butt cheeks at the same time. 530 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: It is amazing that guy's ability to piss people off. 531 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 2: He emphasized the importance of diversifying Indiana's energy portfolio, which 532 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 2: does include wind, solar, coal, nuclear, and natural gas, all 533 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 2: of them. 534 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: Look Indiana, especially under Holcombe, and especially in the post 535 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: COVID world where money and capital got relatively cheap, it 536 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: has a lot of space and it takes a very 537 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 1: resolute and consistent and consistent local governance to fight back 538 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: on all of these things because they are relentless, these 539 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: data center people, relentless. If they can't get it in 540 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: your community, they'll go to the next one. And it's 541 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 1: never going to and you've just got you just like 542 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: it's like the whole thing right. You got to be 543 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: right all the time. They only got to get it 544 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: right once because once they're there, they going away, and 545 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: you just got to get one group of people or 546 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: whatever and then just could put there it goes it's gone. 547 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 2: So a Sagamore of the Wabash was awarded. 548 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: Oh nobody even told me I got one. 549 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 2: It's nineteen. Dark State rep from Fort Wayne awarded the 550 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 2: Sagamore to Michael and Nancy Uslin. Huh and Michael created 551 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 2: and taught the world's first accredited college course on comic 552 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 2: books at IU in nineteen seventy one. 553 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: He got a Sagamore for that, Like that's why they're saying, 554 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: like he didn't pull a small child out of a well. 555 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 2: In nineteen seventy nine, he acquired the film rights to Batman. 556 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 2: He served as the executive producer on every Batman film 557 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,959 Speaker 2: Since he won Daytime Emmy. He's got some other awards 558 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 2: and he's a current professor of practice at I Use 559 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 2: Media Squads. Okay, so donated his thirty thousand comic collection 560 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 2: to I Use Lily Library. 561 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,959 Speaker 1: Okay, so he did more than just teach a class 562 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: on comic books. But given the people who have gotten 563 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: the Sagamores, they get, you know, we laugh. We laugh 564 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: about this, like the Sagamore of the Wabash Award for 565 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: those who don't know it is. I think the Satchem 566 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: is technically higher, a higher award, but that is so 567 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: rare that it ever gets given out. The Sagamore or 568 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: the Wabash pre Mike Pince was this incredibly distinguished word, 569 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: and even early Pence. I know somebody who got one 570 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: under Pence who is exactly the sort of person who 571 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: should have got it. The person worked for Department of 572 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: Corrections for decades, service to the state, was a local 573 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: soccer coach, very successful, for his whole life was public service. 574 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: And that's the sort of person who should be getting 575 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: this word the most distinguished best amongst us is what 576 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: the Sagamore of the Wabash is supposed to be about. 577 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 2: Okay, So the honor recognizes decades of service, which you mentioned, 578 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 2: philanthropy and also contribution to the arts. So that's where 579 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 2: this award winner is coming in. 580 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: This is fine, Like I was having fun with the 581 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: idea that it was like, there's no way the guy 582 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: just taught a class on comic books. Although anymore, who knows. 583 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: But what you have seen under the end of Pens, 584 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: not early on, but the end of Pens and then 585 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: hulkm basically the whole time was they totally deluded what 586 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: the award meant by giving them to politicians. Heck, Raju 587 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: I think has two of them. 588 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, with the red, white, and blue. 589 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: Am I wrong? Didn't I read that? 590 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 2: So? 591 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, like they just started giving them away to cronies, 592 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: to political people. That's what it's supposed to be. It's 593 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: supposed to be a way to recognize people who, for 594 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: love of state, for love of community, spent their lives 595 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: going above and beyond. Like you know, you come in 596 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: every day and for fifty thousand listeners, you give of 597 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: yourself for the community. You know, those sort of people. 598 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 2: Casey, Yeah, you you may qualify for I guess your 599 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 2: contribution to the media arts. 600 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: Let's be as specific as we can be. I am never, 601 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: and I mean ever getting a Sagamore or the wall badge. 602 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad your expert, your expectations are at the 603 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 2: right place. 604 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: All right, Hammer joins us next Kettle. 605 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 2: And Casey on ninety three WIBC. 606 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: It's one of the great lines in Facebook history. Stop 607 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: embarrassing your wife. It's a kettle of cazes, jo Rob 608 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: Gasey's here, Jason Hammer. 609 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 5: Hello, So now I've been dragged into one of your 610 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 5: feuds here. 611 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: So real quick, can I just make an editorial comment? 612 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: And I've tried to tell people this. You are the 613 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: last person I would want mad at me, Like, if 614 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: you think I'm bad, you are infinitely more spiteful, more petty, meaner. 615 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: Like this guy has opened up a whole can of worms. 616 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: I'm glad he did because I can't wait to watch 617 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: this unfold. But you are the last person I would 618 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: want mad at me. 619 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 5: That means a lot, Rob, Thank you. 620 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:10,959 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. 621 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 5: So everybody knows that there's a little scuttle butt between 622 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 5: you and Micah Beckwe you guys had a bad breakup. 623 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 5: You guys are Billy Joel and Christy Brinkley turned sour 624 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 5: and it got very bad, very quickly. So I don't 625 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 5: know how, but the husband of Micah's current chief of staff. 626 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: Her last name I believe is Ellis. That's right. 627 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,959 Speaker 5: So the husband is going on social media and starts 628 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 5: with a feud with you, which, okay, that's kind of 629 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 5: your thing. Yeah, so I'm just kind of laughing. I'm 630 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 5: watching it unfold. Next thing, you know, Captain Moron here 631 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 5: starts saying that everybody here at WIBC. 632 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: Is bought and paid for by Soros. This is the 633 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: same guy that apparently stooged and said something about there 634 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: being a grand jury involving I don't know. I guess 635 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: Micah's office, and nobody had said anything about that, so 636 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: why you would bring that up is weird. So this 637 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: is the same guy, right then he tries to walk 638 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: it back a little bits the whole day, trying to 639 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: be like a disclaimer. My opinions don't represent Michael Becker. 640 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: Nobody said they did. You're just mad because you're a 641 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: moron and got caught. 642 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 5: He's one of these husbands that can't handle his wife 643 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 5: being a big deal. 644 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: Now her job is a big deal. Maybe she is, 645 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: maybe she isn't. I don't know. I've never met the woman. 646 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: She might be a delight. 647 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 5: I have no idea, But I know a moron husband 648 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 5: when I see one, And this guy, all he's doing 649 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 5: is making his wife's job harder because he's putting out 650 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 5: factually incorrect information on social media. When you call him 651 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 5: on it, then he tries to be a little weasel. 652 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 5: He's one of these dudes with very little self confidence. 653 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 5: His wife has a high profile job. She's the chief 654 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 5: of staff of a flame throwing Republican in Indiana. Right now, 655 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 5: he can't handle it. So when you call him on it, 656 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 5: he gets butt hurt. So I simply posted last night 657 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 5: those exact words, stop embarrassing your wife. 658 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: I believe he's. 659 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 5: Part of this church group that has some sort of 660 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 5: pull for the Lieutenant Governor's office for some reason. 661 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. 662 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:22,720 Speaker 5: Again, I've never worked in there, but stop embarrassing your wife. 663 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 5: You're making her job harder because you're a moron. And 664 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 5: that was basically my message last night. 665 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 1: And he kept trying to go back and forth with you, 666 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 1: which is a horrible idea, right if you want. 667 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 5: To go down that rabbit hole, you have no idea 668 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 5: the pettiness that I'm willing to go through, like the 669 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,760 Speaker 5: information that I'm able to find, Like when Channel thirteen 670 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 5: got cute. You think it was just a mistake that 671 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 5: all that information of them gambling on Andrea Morehead's cancer 672 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 5: treatment got out there. More people like me than these people. 673 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 5: They just don't want to admit their friends with me. 674 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 5: So yeah, bring it on out there, man, I'm here 675 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 5: for it. I didn't art this thing. I'm actually trying 676 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,760 Speaker 5: to help the wife who I've never met. 677 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: In my life, because I. 678 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 5: Would feel humiliated, like if because my wife's bit of 679 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,240 Speaker 5: a hotthead too, the coupon lady. She gets a little mouthy, 680 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 5: but if she ever did something that was hurting my job, 681 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 5: I'd have to pull the coupon lady aside and say, 682 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 5: we're gonna have to have a conversation here that I 683 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 5: don't think is happening here. And this moron keeps making 684 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 5: his wife's job harder. What husband does that? 685 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 1: Speaking of conversations, you had one with the governor yesterday. 686 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: We did. We talked about a number of things. 687 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 5: We talked about the meeting with jd Vance, is the jerrymandering, 688 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,760 Speaker 5: or they're gonna be redistricts, all that kind of stuff. 689 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 5: But the interesting stuff to me was when we brought 690 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:49,280 Speaker 5: up the controversy that's currently happening at the Lieutenant Governor's office. 691 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 5: And again, go back and listen to it. And this 692 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,959 Speaker 5: is my opinion. I asked Nige if he felt this way. 693 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 5: I couldn't really get a good read on how he felt, 694 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,240 Speaker 5: but I just get the impression Braun is worn out 695 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 5: by having. 696 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: To deal with all this stuff. 697 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,240 Speaker 5: Now, you can criticize the governor for all the things 698 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 5: you want. Okay, that's fine, that's a separate conversation. But 699 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 5: the governor should never be worn out by the lieutenant governor. 700 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 5: The president should never be worn out by the vice president. Right, 701 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 5: So it just feels to me like he's dealing with 702 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 5: a teenage kid that keeps going out past curfew and 703 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 5: breaking the law, and here he is going, I'm trying 704 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 5: to work here, and this moron keeps going out and 705 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 5: making things hard, just like the husband who's making things 706 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,479 Speaker 5: hard for his wife. You know, his wife's working hard 707 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 5: as a chief of staff, and mister insecure husband here 708 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 5: can't handle it. I get the impression, my opinion only, 709 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,399 Speaker 5: that Braun is just worn out because again Beckwith wasn't 710 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 5: his choice anyway. 711 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: What is coming up? You have a very fabulous number 712 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: one rated radio program. What are we doing? You have 713 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,280 Speaker 1: a special guest this afternoon, don't. 714 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 5: You so live golf announcer Pas Perez. Yeah, I'm going 715 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 5: to tag you into this conversation, rightsided. So you're the 716 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 5: golf guys. I want you to come on here and 717 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 5: talk to Pat Perez with. 718 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: I love this. I'm so excited about this. He has 719 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 1: some of the coolest hair in all of golf. He's 720 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: a wild guy, he's a fun guy. He had like 721 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: a mummt before, but I think he might be clean cut. 722 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 2: Now. 723 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very disappointing, but yeah, so Live Golfs gonna 724 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: be here Friday through Sunday. 725 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,840 Speaker 5: And so you got d Pat Perez de Pat Perez, 726 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,839 Speaker 5: Tony kennetson Israel. We're gonna check in with him and uh, 727 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 5: the biggest stories of the day. And I'll try not 728 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 5: to embarrass my wife. Like the chief of staff at 729 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 5: the Lieutenant Governor's office. 730 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: It's a kindled Casey show. I'm embarrassing your wife.