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Speaker 1: Why from ball hartbind and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: So the President takes to the microphone inside the White House,

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Speaker 2: the Christmas decorations behind him. He's feeling all sorts of

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Speaker 2: ho jolly, and he says, listen, this economy is awesome.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great work. All these things are gonna worked out.

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Speaker 2: You don't worry about a thing. Kittens, Daddy's got the wheel.

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Speaker 2: Good night. Oh you only think true about that. It

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Speaker 2: was the very loud voice. He was very loud. He

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Speaker 2: was very very loud. I don't think it was his

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Speaker 2: best speech in terms of the presentation, but I think

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Speaker 2: the presidents of the United States showed that he's listening

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Speaker 2: to this show. We know that Scott Bessett wasn't pleased

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Speaker 2: with me. I'm telling you that they're paying attention to

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Speaker 2: the idea that they must get the message out. They

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Speaker 2: have to get the message out to the people. And

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Speaker 2: the message is a lot is happening, A lot's coming

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Speaker 2: down the pike. And I mean, here, take a look

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Speaker 2: at what's going on with CPI. Bring the CPI. Oh,

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Speaker 2: maybe coming in a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Better than expecting two point seven percent, a little light here.

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Speaker 3: I'm not calling I'm just reading the headlines here. Year

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Speaker 3: over year two seven core two six, So four tenths off.

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Speaker 3: That is a very good number here, and it really

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Speaker 3: I have not looked at the internals. I look at

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Speaker 3: them now, but it suggests that the internals are good

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Speaker 3: as well.

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Speaker 2: Two point seven when the estimate on the super Price

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Speaker 2: Index was three point one. That would tell you inflation

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Speaker 2: is down. But as doctor Mattwell, economists at the University

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Speaker 2: of Indianapolis will explain, yeah, you could take this whole

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Speaker 2: thing and throw it in the trash. Did I say hello,

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Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz to show us Tony Kats today. You

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Speaker 2: can find us on YouTube live streaming Tony Katz would

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Speaker 2: be sure to do that YouTube dot com slash Tony

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Speaker 2: Katz or on the Twitter x at Tony Kat's Facebook

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Speaker 2: Tony Kats Radio. Doesn't matter though White House is gonna say,

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Speaker 2: see cut interest rates and inflation still going down. We're

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Speaker 2: doing a great job. The President does have a lot

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Speaker 2: he can cheer. He does, and to say otherwise is

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Speaker 2: just certifiably dumb. They've done a very bad job of messaging.

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Speaker 2: And so what did we say on this show? What

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Speaker 2: have we been saying on this show. We've been saying,

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Speaker 2: you gotta get out there and lead the charge. This

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Speaker 2: has been my issue with Scott Besson. He's the adult

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Speaker 2: in the room. No one can do it better than him.

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Speaker 2: And I said the words. I said it to Sean Spicer.

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Speaker 2: We found out that Scott Besson heard about it was

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Speaker 2: nothing too pleased. And then it got brought up by

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Speaker 2: Steve and he's sharing the clip of me talking about it.

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Speaker 2: And then he was the one who referred to me

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Speaker 2: as a stock Republican, which still is the nastiest thing

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Speaker 2: anybody has ever said about me ever in the history.

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Speaker 4: So rude, so rude.

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Speaker 2: Steve, Oh my gosh. But I at least take comfort

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Speaker 2: in knowing that I was right, and you are a sycophant.

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Speaker 2: Stop being a sickaphan. Be right. It's so much better

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Speaker 2: what with the being right and all. I was absolutely right.

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Speaker 2: You have to message this story. You have to sell

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Speaker 2: your story. You have to explain your story. And that's

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Speaker 2: what the White House is doing. That's what they're doing.

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Speaker 2: That's what President Trump was doing when he took to

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Speaker 2: the microphone when he said, listen, next spring, everything is

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Speaker 2: scheduled to be super awesome, hunky dory. You're gonna absolutely

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Speaker 2: love what's.

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Speaker 5: Going on right here here, you will asso see the

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Speaker 5: results of the largest tax cuts in American history that

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Speaker 5: were really accomplished through our great, big, beautiful bill, perhaps

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Speaker 5: the most sweeping legislation ever passed in Congress.

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Speaker 6: We wrapped twelve different bills up into one beautiful bill

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Speaker 6: that includes no tax on tips, no tax on overtime,

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Speaker 6: and no tax on Social Security for our great seniors.

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Speaker 2: Under these cuts, many families.

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Speaker 6: Will be saving between eleven thousand and twenty thousand dollars

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Speaker 6: a year, and next spring is projected to be the

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Speaker 6: largest tax refund season.

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Speaker 7: Of all time.

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Speaker 2: Scott Bessett started saying that a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: that is a part of the message. Part of the

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Speaker 2: message is listen, we know we've done these tires and

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Speaker 2: we know you've paid more, but here's how it's working,

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Speaker 2: and here are the deals. And once those deals lead

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Speaker 2: to dollars being invested in, not just talked about actual

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Speaker 2: shovels hitting the ground because of growth, because of increases

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Speaker 2: in construction, because they're building new plants, watch the boom.

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Speaker 2: I have put a date to this which is July first,

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Speaker 2: right at the start of the third quarter. Now, one

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Speaker 2: But my point, I think my argument is still clear.

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Speaker 2: The White House has six months to engage, six months

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Speaker 2: to discuss, six months to be able to sell their

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Speaker 2: story versus the Democrat story of doom and gloom, and

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Speaker 2: they have to be able to prove it in great measure.

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Speaker 2: There are places in the story that Trump and the

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Speaker 2: team are going to be able to sell. I'll sell

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Speaker 2: it all day long. The border is safe and secure.

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Speaker 2: My kids have a better chance at a safer future

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Speaker 2: because Donald Trump is in office, because Joe Biden Kamala

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Speaker 2: Harris were kept out of office. Fact fact, airlines are

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Speaker 2: working at better efficiency because Sean Duffy is the Transportation

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Speaker 2: Secretary and Pete Buddha Judge is nowhere around planes. Never

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Speaker 2: mind Chuochu trains. The war on drugs has gone from

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Speaker 2: an actual bit of sloganeering to an actual bit of

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Speaker 2: doing by declaring fentanyl weapon of mass destruction and stopping

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Speaker 2: its import into the United States, whether that be vis

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Speaker 2: A VI going after venezuel when drug boats or telling

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Speaker 2: China those days are over. Advantage Trump, These are sellable,

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Speaker 2: sellable things right now. Oil prices on both the West

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Speaker 2: Texas crewed right. So this is the barrel price West

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Speaker 2: Texas coming in on the ground, Brent T. Brick crew

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Speaker 2: coming out of the oceans. As of this morning, we're

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Speaker 2: both under sixty dollars. A barrel and ounce of silver

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Speaker 2: that some people are still conplation, doesn't it. And they are,

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Speaker 2: which should be clear about that. He's got to continue

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Speaker 2: tariffs don't help, and the spending doesn't help. He now

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Speaker 2: he's talking about the Warrior dividend. I'm sorry, did he

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Speaker 2: just say Warrior dividend? The Warrior dividend, says President Trump.

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Speaker 2: And you say to me, Tony, listen, I know that

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Speaker 2: you often talk about things and you get things before

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Speaker 2: we do. But can anybody explain what the heck you're

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Speaker 2: talking about here with the Warrior divinend? Well, it's very simple.

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Speaker 2: You serve in the military, you are gonna get yourself

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Speaker 2: a very very large check. How large of a check? Well,

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Speaker 2: how about seventeen hundred and seventy six dollars worth?

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Speaker 6: Along with the just past one big beautiful bill tonight,

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Speaker 6: I am also proud to announce that more than one thousand,

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Speaker 2: And fifty thousand Think of this, one.

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Speaker 6: Million, four hundred and fifty thousand military service members will

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Speaker 6: receive a special we call warrior dividend before Christmas. A

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Speaker 6: warrior dividend in honor of our nations founding in seventeen

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Speaker 6: seventy six, we are sending every soldier one thousand, seven

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Speaker 2: Think of that, and the checks are already on the way.

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Speaker 6: Nobody understood that one until about thirty minutes ago.

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Speaker 2: Well is that when you thought of it decided to

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Speaker 2: put in the speech. I don't mind members of the

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Speaker 2: was told that the tariff money was going to pay

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Speaker 2: going to go to help farmers. Now the tariff money

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Speaker 2: is going to soldiers. What's the matter, Tony you don't

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Speaker 2: like farmers, you don't like soldiers. Huh huh. I don't

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Speaker 2: president is utilizing it as a personalized slush fund for

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Speaker 2: specific interest groups, which if a Democrat was doing, everybody

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Speaker 2: get angry at me for noticing. Don't get angry at

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Speaker 2: me for doing the thing called consistency. But I started

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Speaker 2: with where I started. I have absolutely no idea if

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Speaker 2: there's a system for them to get bonuses like it

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Speaker 2: might exist, and I don't know it. It's possible. I

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Speaker 2: don't know something. I know other radio hosts don't announced

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Speaker 2: those kinds of things. But hey, that's their problem. There's

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Speaker 2: a system. There's a system also. Seventeen hundred and seventy

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Speaker 2: six dollars. That's a that's a little cute. That's a

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Speaker 2: little cute. Why not fifteen hundred, why not two thousand?

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Speaker 2: Why not fourteen million dollars a piece? Seventeen hundred and

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Speaker 2: seventy six dollars? It's too cute by half, too cute

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Speaker 2: by half. But I'm not gonna get upset with soldiers

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Speaker 2: say about it. So you're giving soldiers a bonus. That's

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Speaker 2: a way of buying votes, like paying off student loans. Well,

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Speaker 2: Here's how we're going to talk. Here's how we're going

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Speaker 2: to talk about winning the midterms. We're going to discuss

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Speaker 2: let Democrats run the table with this conversation about affordability

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Speaker 2: free crap. Their answer to affordability is government run convenience

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Speaker 2: stores and grocery stores and rent control. What kind of

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Speaker 2: childhoodes of Columbia or Berkeley. Yeah, yeah, okay, don't send

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Speaker 2: right messing. No, not perfect. I think there's still some

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Speaker 2: So to that end an outrageous success. But I say

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Speaker 2: July first, he has to be able to sell an

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Speaker 2: economic vision and an economic story that gets Americans excited again,

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Speaker 2: because I absolutely believe that no matter what's going on

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Speaker 2: high and the pressure is too high, they absolutely believe,

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Speaker 2: deep in the recesses that they're better off with Trump.

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Speaker 2: They're moving the levers than Bider Harris because they couldn't,

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Speaker 2: make things worse. This is a party that favors rent control.

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Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders. You think they know anything about economics. The

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Speaker 2: Let's see where it goes from here. I'm Tony Katz

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Speaker 2: and this is Tony Katz today. Another terrorist attack in Sydney,

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Speaker 2: Tony Kats, Tony Kats today, good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: Find everything over at Tony katz dot com. There was

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Speaker 8: Today, I'm announcing a significant number of additional actions to

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Speaker 2: Or you could just remove the Islamis from your country.

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Speaker 2: the question. Who walked into Brown University? Who killed Ella Cook?

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Speaker 4: Knew it was coming.

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Speaker 6: We're still getting information as far as school was the

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Speaker 2: And we're still getting this. Why I can't give you

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Speaker 7: We have twelve hundred cameras located throughout the campus. We

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Speaker 2: There are cameras in this building.

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Speaker 7: And as I answered the previous question, we have turned

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Speaker 2: You're seeing that there's a game. We're amazing the cameras

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Speaker 2: Brown University. Oh, the IVY leagues. Screw the IVY leagues.

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Speaker 2: End of the press conference. You have a reporter, hispanic

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Speaker 2: believe that to be true. They're not sharing everything. That

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Speaker 2: seems to be more true. They can't answer a question

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Speaker 2: about whether cameras are on, cameras are off, Cameras in

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Speaker 2: the building, camera's not in the building. No no, no,

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Speaker 2: they didn't say this. They meant to say that. They

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Speaker 2: said the other thing. The incompetence is a feature, not

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Speaker 2: a bug. The incompetence is the goal, because the desire

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Speaker 2: was never student in safety. The desire was to ensure

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Speaker 2: that illegal aliens are okay. And in order to ensure that,

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Speaker 2: you can't work with police, you can't work with law enforcement,

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Speaker 2: you can't provide information. No, no, no, no, no hah. Wait,

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Speaker 2: see I thought that person was doing it. Oh, that's

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Speaker 2: I thought. I thought that person was doing it. I

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Speaker 2: guess the cameras weren't working. Oh, I thought the cameras

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Speaker 2: were working. Maybe that was a different system. I'm so confused.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's an email about that finding somebody else

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Speaker 2: has an email about that. Did those emails ever get answered?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I just sent the email. I did

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Speaker 2: what I was told. Why would I ever follow up?

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Speaker 2: That's not my job. No one takes responsibility. No one

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Speaker 2: says I've got this, because that would be too much

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Speaker 2: leadership and in these circles, as we saw when elite

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Speaker 2: Stephonic called up the Harvard University president at the time,

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Speaker 2: Claudie Gay, and a host of others. Leadership is not

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Speaker 2: the goal. Ensuring that progressives can scream how much they

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Speaker 2: hate Jews seems to be the goal. And supporting those

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Speaker 2: who want to burn down the American way of life

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Speaker 2: is the goal. And this is why you don't send

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Speaker 2: your kids to these colleges. Anybody who sends their child

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Speaker 2: to Brown hates their kid. You hate your kid, you

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Speaker 2: hate your daughter, you hate your son, you hate them.

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Speaker 2: Of course, there's no other purpose, no all the reason

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Speaker 2: it's entered to Brown, same thing as truth Berkeley or

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Speaker 2: Columbia or University of Michigan. That's right, I went after Blue.

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Speaker 2: That's absolutely the facts. Abusive here, Well, I shouldn't say

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Speaker 2: abusive in terms of the system. This is what they do.

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Speaker 2: Abusive is the wrong word. I think I was going

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Speaker 2: for another word, and I probably couldn't say on the radio.

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Speaker 2: So I'm glad it came out as abusive. This is

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Speaker 2: who they are, inept, incompetent and capable, and they want

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Speaker 2: to be your betters. I am starting to fear we're

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Speaker 2: not going to find out who did this to Ellacook

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Speaker 2: and who did this to my comic Omerzokoff, And that

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Speaker 2: makes me sick. These people these universities. They provide no value.

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Speaker 2: Don't give them your money. I'm Tony Katz. It's a

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Speaker 2: horrifying story out of North Carolina. Tony Kats Tony Katz today,

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Speaker 2: good and to be with you. Greg Biffle, former NASCAR driver.

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Speaker 2: The story right now is that his plane and I

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Speaker 2: guess he has done a lot of flying, a lot

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Speaker 2: of helicopter work, a lot of helping other people. There

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Speaker 2: was a plane crash. It happened mid morning about ten

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Speaker 2: twenty am Eastern time at an airport which is forty

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Speaker 2: five miles north of Charlotte. It's called States Full Regional Airport.

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Speaker 2: Now the way I have it listed, there are confirmed fatalities.

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Speaker 2: I do not have anything as of yet, although it

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Speaker 2: may be out there about a confirmation about former NASCAR

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Speaker 2: driver Greg Biffle. But the plane in question is owned

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Speaker 2: by Biffle through GB Aviation Leasing, which lists the same

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Speaker 2: address as him. Witnesses from a nearby golf club saying

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Speaker 2: that the plane was quote way too low before a crash,

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Speaker 2: considering they probably see planes come in and land and

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Speaker 2: take off all the time. There was fog in the area.

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Speaker 2: As reported, there's an investigation happening don't have data yet.

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Speaker 2: I I mean, certainly, it's a question's gonna be asked about,

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Speaker 2: you know, flying safety, not safe, I still would assume safe,

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Speaker 2: and I would not have an issue getting in a

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Speaker 2: private plane at all. Do I have an issue with

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Speaker 2: the props like yes, But listen, there are plenty of

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Speaker 2: planes that utilized prompts that are outrageously safe and incredibly

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Speaker 2: good and luxurious and and all the rest. It's sometimes

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Speaker 2: it's not a well we have to dig deep. Sometimes

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Speaker 2: just a bad thing happens.

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Speaker 13: Now.

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Speaker 2: I certainly hope everybody's safety, but I don't know, absolutely

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Speaker 2: don't know. Here right now, nothing is looking good. There

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Speaker 2: are no updates as of yet. Just what we know

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Speaker 2: is that a plane that is owned by a former

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Speaker 2: maybe current NASCAR driver. I think it's former Greg Biffle,

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's been driving for a while, was

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Speaker 2: involved in the crash, What caused it, what happened, all

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Speaker 2: the rest. There's gonna be more information you're gonna be seeing. Sadly,

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Speaker 2: a lot of this story, a tremendous amount a lot

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Speaker 2: to get to Robert F. Kennedy Junior. I'm putting an

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Speaker 2: end to the madness of gender firming care. I've got

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Speaker 2: that story and a seven billion dollar fraud. Keep it here.

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Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 1: Live from val Hartland and the crossroads of America.

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Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today, So let's talk fraud. Some seven

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Speaker 2: billion dollars worth of snap fraud. Tony Katz, Tony Cats Today.

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Speaker 2: Good to be here, Good to be with you. Find

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Speaker 2: everything at Tony kats dot com. Live streaming on the

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Speaker 2: out for the night. It's gonna be a good time.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna be great people, and you're gonna have a

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Speaker 2: lot of laughs. It's gonna be spectacular when I put

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Speaker 2: on a show. I put on a show. Tickets dot

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz dot com. The bourbon, the food, the everything.

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Speaker 2: I hope to see you there. In Massachusetts, men charged

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Speaker 2: with nearly seven million Do I say billion, I meant million.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter in a snap fraud. We're talking about

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Speaker 2: supplemental nutritional plan there. We're talking about how food stamps

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Speaker 2: are manipulated. Federal authorities in Massachusetts charging two men with

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Speaker 2: a fraud seven million dollar food stamp scheme. This is

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Speaker 2: part of what they say is a Trump administration led

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Speaker 2: effort to crack down on fraud and government. They operated

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Speaker 2: some stores in the city which were reimbursed withs not benefits,

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Speaker 2: far beyond what would be reasonable for their size. One

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Speaker 2: of the shops redeeming five hundred thousand dollars in a

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Speaker 2: single month. They were exchanging benefits. Here, you claim this,

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Speaker 2: and you claim this, and you claim this, and you

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Speaker 2: claim this, and you claim this and you claim this.

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Speaker 2: Now I'd like to know more about the men in question.

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Speaker 2: Here's what I know. Both are Haitian immigrants, one a

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Speaker 2: US citizen and the other a lawful permanent resident. Okay, well,

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Speaker 2: the lawful permanent resident has to be deported, but first

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Speaker 2: jail and a lot of jail, a tremendous amount of jail,

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Speaker 2: jail for everybody but the one who is a citizen.

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Speaker 2: They became a citizen, I think that there might be

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Speaker 2: a reason to lose your citizenship there if you become

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Speaker 2: a citizen. What do you do in that situation? How

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Speaker 2: does one handle that situation? The fraud problem is real,

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Speaker 2: and we should be clear there are plenty of Americans

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Speaker 2: who engage in fraud. That is not the argument. The

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Speaker 2: argument that often gets made is, you know you're talking

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Speaker 2: about people here legally committing crimes. More crimes are committed

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Speaker 2: by people who are here legally by citizens than by

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Speaker 2: people who are here by other means. WHOA. You have

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Speaker 2: more citizens than non citizens, so therefore, as a matter

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Speaker 2: of percentage, more crimes will be committed by citizens than

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Speaker 2: non citizens. The argument is you could eliminate one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent of the crimes by non citizens if you didn't

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Speaker 2: allow them in the country. That's mack, I'm happy to help.

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Speaker 2: You could end this. But the manipulation of government programs,

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Speaker 2: and when government programs pay out this kind of money,

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Speaker 2: usually what you hear from the left. Is my gosh,

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Speaker 2: these programs are so important. We can't cut these. We

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Speaker 2: have to get more to these programs. We are not

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Speaker 2: a better nation because we have more people on programs.

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Speaker 2: That's Bernie Sanders stupid. It's an ignorant, ignorant thing to say.

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Speaker 2: I often remind people about Bernie and his foolishness, and

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Speaker 2: what I remind them of is that Bernie Sanders is

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Speaker 2: the guy who once stated that breadlines are good things.

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Speaker 2: Now you'd think I'm kidding. This is him in his

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Speaker 2: younger days, Bernie Sanders. That's funny.

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Speaker 9: Sometimes American journalists talk about how bad a country is

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Speaker 9: because people are lining up food.

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Speaker 2: That's a good thing.

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Speaker 4: In other countries, people don't line.

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Speaker 11: Up for food.

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Speaker 2: The rich gets the food. In the post soft to death.

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Speaker 2: If you want to know why I'm not a communist,

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Speaker 2: there you go. Because only a communist could listen to

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Speaker 2: that and say that makes sense. Every other rational person says,

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Speaker 2: that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard, until, of course,

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Speaker 2: the next time Bernie Sanders speaks. I know this upsets progressives,

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Speaker 2: but Bernie Sanders is a nobody who has never done

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Speaker 2: a thing. You think Donald Trump has never accomplished anything.

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Speaker 2: I've heard this before. It's hilarious. Donald Trump allows all

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Speaker 2: those limousine liberals in Manhattan to exist. His contributions to

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Speaker 2: that city, to that skyline have brought in billions and

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Speaker 2: billions of dollars, not only the jobs created, but the

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Speaker 2: rent rolls created. What did Bernie Sanders create accept debt

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Speaker 2: and a wake of destruction and a destroyed college by

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Speaker 2: his wife? Nothing? What is Elano mar created accept incredible

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Speaker 2: wealth for herself? Lord only knows at the expense of

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Speaker 2: whom nothing to leave? Nothing? Acossia Cortez nothing, She's gotten,

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Speaker 2: something accomplished. She got elected to Congress, bartender to congress

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Speaker 2: man America is a great place? What has she created?

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Speaker 2: On gas? And she then looks at people who create

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Speaker 2: and say, how dare you? You should give me more?

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Speaker 2: And Bernie stands there and says, breadlines good things. These

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Speaker 2: fraud issues must be dealt with. And I'm thrilled to

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Speaker 2: see that we're now looking into them because we need

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Speaker 2: to gonna sit here and somehow accept that this is

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Speaker 2: just the way it is. How foolish, But foolish is

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Speaker 2: the name of the game. Just like the people who

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Speaker 2: look at these kinds of programs and say, see, we

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Speaker 2: need to continue to grow these programs. This brings us

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Speaker 2: to Michelle Obama. I know what you're saying, Tony. Why

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Speaker 2: why I thought you were our friend. I thought you

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Speaker 2: loved us. Hey, it's not like I'm talking about Candace Owens.

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Speaker 2: Oh wait, that's next. This is Candace. Is I talk

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Speaker 2: about Canadace? Okay, all right, So clearly I'm not a

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Speaker 2: very nice guy today. This You have got Michelle Obama

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Speaker 2: on MS now, which I guess people are now calling

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Speaker 2: MS now. I don't think it's a compliment. And she's

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Speaker 2: on with Jonathan K Part. Jonathan K Part I was

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Speaker 2: here with the Washington Post. He left the Washington Post

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Speaker 2: and they had themselves a sit down. Don't you know?

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Speaker 2: You write this. When you're a woman in the public eye.

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Speaker 14: You're often reduced first and foremost of your physical appearance.

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Speaker 14: You also, right, if someone wants to take something away

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Speaker 14: from a woman, they will try to rob her of

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Speaker 14: her femininity, femininity, her beauty. We have current examples of

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Speaker 14: this right now.

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Speaker 2: Particularly before that, before all that, right, why does it persist?

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Speaker 14: What will it take to shame folks into stopping what

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Speaker 14: you described there.

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Speaker 12: You know, look, we we have to pick leaders that

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Speaker 12: don't do that. You know, I look, it is it

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Speaker 12: is hard to I can't get into the minds of

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Speaker 12: people who were cool and mean. My empathy in me

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Speaker 12: says that that comes from a place of brokenness and

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Speaker 12: insecurity and.

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Speaker 11: At a certain stage in life.

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Speaker 2: It is not fixable.

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Speaker 12: It is you know, planted in there.

647
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Speaker 2: That's exactly how I feel about the editors of Verity Fair.

648
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 2: How is it possible you don't have of Malania Trump

649
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 2: on your cover. That's a real hatred of women right there.

650
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 2: Don't take a look at her as a former model.

651
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 2: Don't take a look at her somebody who understands fashion.

652
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 2: Don't take her as somebody who is first lady and

653
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 2: has her own level of quasi icon status like you,

654
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 2: Michelle Obama, who is not a model and there's nothing

655
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 2: of fashion, but you have a quasi icon status, And

656
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,760
Speaker 2: don't put her on the cover of Vanity Fair because

657
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 2: of Donald Trump's politics. Maybe there are things worse than

658
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 2: what you're describing, and maybe possibly what you're describing doesn't

659
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 2: actually exist. Now, hold on, do we look at women

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Speaker 2: as men and say attractive or not attractive here allow me? Yep,

661
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 2: Do I apologize? Nope. I notice when women are attractive.

662
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 2: I notice when they're not a tree active. I notice

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Speaker 2: when they're tall. I notice when they're short. I notice

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Speaker 2: when they're fat, I notice when they're thin, and I

665
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 2: notice when they're built just right. I don't apologize for noticing. Oh,

666
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 2: and for the ladies who work out in the gym

667
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 2: with the very low cut tops and the yoga pants

668
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 2: and then scream about why are you all staring at me?

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Speaker 2: Shut up, and certainly don't take video of yourself while

670
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 2: this happens and then post it and then get angry

671
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 2: that we're looking again. Stop just stop. We get it.

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00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 2: You want to be the center of attention, but you

673
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 2: don't want anybody to look at you weird. The issue

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00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 2: is not whether or not you're attractive. The issue is

675
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 2: whether or not you're competent. If you want to be

676
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 2: a leader, you have to be competent. Iron Rand is

677
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 2: amongst the ugliest people I've ever seen. But Atlas Shrugged

678
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: and the Fountain or must read your move this argument.

679
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 2: Someone's trying to take your femininity. What is it that

680
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Speaker 2: you're actually looking for? Everything you're telling me that women

681
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 2: are just like men. Women are equal to men, but

682
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Speaker 2: you also have to do these things. How about women

683
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 2: and men are different. We should always note it and

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Speaker 2: notice it, that it's important and it's valuable, and that

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Speaker 2: while I teach my kids to hold the door open

686
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Speaker 2: for people, I always teach my kids to hold the

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Speaker 2: door open for a woman because that's just the way

688
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 2: it's done. I'm raising men, not heathens, and you hold

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Speaker 2: a door open. And when my boys joke with me,

690
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 2: it's a little different than how they're allowed to joke

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Speaker 2: with their mother. And I have told them so very direct.

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Speaker 2: There are rules. But the argument is what you're not

693
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Speaker 2: allowed to be a leader because someone notices how you look.

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Speaker 2: This is your conversation. Have it with leftists, not us.

695
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 2: We're not your problem. We're not voting for you anyway.

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00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 2: Your policies are terrible, but your people aren't voting for you.

697
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 2: By the way, your people are liberals. Just can we not?

698
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 2: Could we please not do that to me? And they're

699
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Speaker 2: not voting for you because they have no faith in you.

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Speaker 2: They don't believe in you, and they don't believe in

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Speaker 2: Kamala Harrison. They didn't believe in Hillary Clinton, Maybe it's

702
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 2: your politics. Maybe it's because the people you've put up

703
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 2: to vote for are frauds. Maybe it's because they're unlikable.

704
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 2: Maybe it's all those things. We have to pick leaders

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Speaker 2: who don't rob women of their femininity. This is the

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Speaker 2: argument that the left is having. I guess this is

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Speaker 2: the way you keep suburban white women voting for you.

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Speaker 2: It's not a conversation in America. It's not a serious one.

709
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 2: You can let somebody else rob you of your femininity

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Speaker 2: or your masculinity. Weird, not strong, weird? All right? What

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00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 2: happened with Candace Owns and Pierce Morgan. I've got that

712
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Speaker 2: story coming up. This is Tony Kats today. It is

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Speaker 2: not my fault that I have to talk about Candace Owns. No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: don't don't get angry with me. I'm telling you it

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Speaker 2: is not my fault that this has to happen, but

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Speaker 2: indeed will happened. Tony Katz. Yeah, I feel you're paying

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Speaker 2: Tony Kats today. Good to be with you. She oh

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Speaker 2: my god. Yeah, you know, her audience is huge. It's shameful,

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Speaker 2: but it's huge, and a lot of them are unhappy

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Speaker 2: with her for having this sit down with Erica Kirk

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Speaker 2: of Turning Point and they're like, oh, you're a fraud

722
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Speaker 2: all you sold out. Oh we can't trust you anymore.

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Speaker 2: And people are like, look at how the look at

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Speaker 2: how these people are turning on her. Did anybody notice

725
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Speaker 2: that all these people were paying to comment a dollar,

726
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Speaker 2: five dollars, twenty dollars, one hundred dollars. They're sending her money,

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Speaker 2: She's making bank. It's crazy. But she goes on with

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Speaker 2: Piers Morgan and I'm going to outplay for you the

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Speaker 2: clip that I think some up the whole thing if

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Speaker 2: you want to sum up what it is that's going

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Speaker 2: on with Candace Owns here. I think I got it

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Speaker 2: all clean, but finger on the dumb button producial end

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Speaker 2: in just in case, uh, here you go. This appears

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Speaker 2: more than uncensored.

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Speaker 3: And I think we're going to see the same thing

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Speaker 3: with Bridgie mackerel and you is that he was weaponizing

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Speaker 3: deliberate lie for money and I think.

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Speaker 15: You crone has a penis. I really wanted to know that.

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Speaker 15: Rege Macrons, I'm sorry she has. Did you get it

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Speaker 15: removed removed?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, you can have adoptive children.

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Speaker 15: You can call somebody, but Briget Macrome was born a

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Speaker 15: dude named Johnny Sheelle Trump.

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Speaker 2: Now, yeah, am I now a party to a lawsuit

745
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,240
Speaker 2: because I play that? Can I hear from the legal department?

746
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Speaker 2: Please anybody help? That's that's her, that's her, hey man, listen,

747
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Speaker 2: whatever that lawsuit is, go enjoy, Go enjoy every single

748
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Speaker 2: bit of that one, and and we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 2: But there was a moment in this interview where Candice

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Speaker 2: Owen says verbatim that Turning Point USA was complicit in

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Speaker 2: the murder of Charlie Kirk, and then when confronted with

752
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Speaker 2: it by Piers Morgan, she says, I never said that.

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Speaker 2: And there's a really interesting question about whether or not

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Speaker 2: you want the Candace Owens type in your coalition. A

755
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 2: lot of talk about coalition, right, Trump put together a

756
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Speaker 2: coalition to win the election. We've got to keep the

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Speaker 2: coalition together, I ask you right now. I need Candace

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Speaker 2: Owens in the coalition. Never mind the insanity about Brigitte Macrone,

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Speaker 2: who is a weird looking person for sure, and Kandace

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Speaker 2: is not the first person to make this claim, by

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Speaker 2: the way. The internet is chuck full of claims. But

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Speaker 2: she literally said turning point USA was complicit, and in

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Speaker 2: the same five minutes she goes, I never said that

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Speaker 2: do we need her in the coalition? Do we need her?

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00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 2: Do we need the people who follow her? Can we

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Speaker 2: win elections without her? Can we win the midterms without her?

767
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 2: Can we win the midterms without Tucker? Can we win

768
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 2: the midterms without the Nick Quintes types? I argue the

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00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 2: answer has to be, well, we have to. We have to.

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Speaker 2: We have to win without them, and I believe I

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Speaker 2: can prove how. I also believe I've got an interesting

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Speaker 2: theory on how to keep some of them. And that's

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Speaker 2: all part of what I'm doing. January twenty fourth Tickets

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Speaker 2: at Tony kats dot com. But I don't think I

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Speaker 2: need the candade supporter as one of mine. I'm good.

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Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 4: Joining everybody.

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Speaker 16: Thank you to all the officials who are joining us today,

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Speaker 16: and I'm an acknowledge.

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Speaker 2: Many of you by name. Has a long list.

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Speaker 16: The Chairman of the Federal Trade Commission, Andrew Ferguson.

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Speaker 2: And as Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Says, welcome everybody in

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Speaker 2: the long long list of people, I welcome you. Tony

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Speaker 2: Katz Tony Katz today, good to be with you. I

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Speaker 2: was able to catch Secretary Kennedy's press conference on child

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Speaker 2: healthcare policy. Marty McCarry is there from the FDA, doctor

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Speaker 2: Oz who runs Medicare Medicaid services. There is no question

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Speaker 2: and no doubt that what RFK has done in terms

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Speaker 2: of mom make America healthy again, that has caught fire.

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Speaker 2: People are excited about it. Dies out of food, additives

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Speaker 2: out of food, more honest conversations about autism. And I'm

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Speaker 2: not saying that vaccines cause autism. I am saying that

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Speaker 2: a society that doesn't allow for conversation is a society

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Speaker 2: that fails and fails all of us in every single

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Speaker 2: way it does. And is that Chloe Cole I see

796
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 2: so Chloe Cole is an insane story about a young

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Speaker 2: girl who was allowed to transition to be a boy

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Speaker 2: and then realized, I'm miserable, this isn't right, this is

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Speaker 2: a problem. Transition back and and and found a better life.

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Speaker 2: And I I have interviewed Chloe before and so to

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Speaker 2: look in her eyes and the story is horrifying. So

802
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 2: we're gonna hear from her. I absolutely want to hear

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00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 2: it in every single way there is no doubt that

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00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 2: he is winning this and that's why he uh in polling,

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00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 2: is more popular than President Trump and others. It makes

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00:56:54,239 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 2: perfect sense on every single level that he is and

807
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 2: so he is is speaking and going to be engaging

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Speaker 2: with this audience about health care, and I wanted to

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Speaker 2: bring some of it to you.

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Speaker 16: JHS Office of the Assistant Secretary for Health last Mose

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Speaker 16: confirms that sex rejecting procedures imposed medical dangers and lasting

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Speaker 16: harm on children who receive these interventions. So today we

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Speaker 16: are taking six the sisive actions guided by gold standard

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Speaker 16: science and the week one executive order from President Trump

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Speaker 16: to protect children from chemical and surgical mutilation ex IT.

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Speaker 16: This morning, I signed a declaration sex rejecting procedures are

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Speaker 16: neither safe nor effective treatment for children with genderness for him.

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Speaker 2: Over joy would not be more practical, artist and more

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Speaker 2: eliar features. Gender for care is not here. If it's

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Speaker 2: a license to a medical children and to those people, Madail,

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Speaker 2: my views are.

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Speaker 16: Out of compliance with these standards of healthcare. This declaration

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Speaker 16: is a clear directive to providers to follow the science

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Speaker 16: and the overwhelming body of evidence that these procedures hurt,

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Speaker 16: not help, but children Additionally, SEEMS is proposing two new rules.

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Speaker 16: The first rule will bar hospitals to participate in Medicare

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Speaker 16: and Medicaid, which is almost every hospital from performing these

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Speaker 16: dangerous and harmful procedures. The second rule, for hib is

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Speaker 16: the federal Medicaid dollars from funding the sex rejecting procedures

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Speaker 16: on minors.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 16: The FDA is issuing warning letters to twelve manufacturers of

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Speaker 16: breast binders, which are medical devices used for purposes such

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Speaker 16: as assistants and recovery from cancer related to sectomies. The

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Speaker 16: FDA is telling these companies that the illegal marketing of

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Speaker 16: breast binders children for the purpose of treating gender dysphoria

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Speaker 16: significant regulatory violations and requires swift congressional or corrective action.

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Speaker 2: I am overjoyed. Remember in this conversation, while it's a

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Speaker 2: mental issue with adults, we are always talking about children,

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Speaker 2: and I can talk about adults, but children cannot cannot

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Speaker 2: do this. They cannot make these kinds of decisions. They

842
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 2: can't decide their gender because no one can, and they

843
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 2: cannot be aided and a bet by adults who want

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Speaker 2: to do them hard. We call them child of users,

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Speaker 2: and we should push back on them with massive force.

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Speaker 2: And this is good news. This is a society's taking

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Speaker 2: a stands. We don't do those things here. And the

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Speaker 2: people who want to do those things, the progressives who

849
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 2: want to do those things, they're wrong and we should

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Speaker 2: say so. We don't care what they say and what

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Speaker 2: they scream. I say, let's fight. These are our kids.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about laws. If you ain't gonna fight for

853
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 2: this public, you're gonna fight for us. They think they're tough.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're nothing. They're gonna sit there and

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Speaker 2: screen that. We're gonna The trans kids are our kids too.

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Speaker 2: To protect kids are kids. Stop trying to make them trans.

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Speaker 2: Stop trying to tell them that they can be a

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Speaker 2: girl when they're a boy or boy then when they're

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Speaker 2: a girl. Stop lying to them. Stop feeding into their

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Speaker 2: mental illness. It's sick, it's twisted. You're wrong, it's shameful.

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Speaker 2: And if you won't stop, we'll just stop you. That's

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Speaker 2: what a free and thinking people does. If they protect children,

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Speaker 2: they don't abuse children. No society can be a society

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Speaker 2: if they abuse children's ability, it cannot be done. This

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Speaker 2: is excellent, excellent news from the Secretary of Team Admiral.

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Speaker 16: Brian Christine today signed a public health message go in

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Speaker 16: form healthcare providers, families, and policymakers that current evidence does

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Speaker 16: not support claims that puberty blockers, cross sex hormones, and

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Speaker 16: surgeries are safe and effective correct treatments for pediatric genderness

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Speaker 16: for you. These and ouncements are grounded in evidence and

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Speaker 16: shaped by compassion. President Trump has made child protection ain't

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Speaker 16: national priority.

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Speaker 2: Make our children.

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Speaker 16: Healthy against strategy demonstrates that commitment sex rejecting procedures rob

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Speaker 16: children love their futures.

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Speaker 2: Anybody who says that hormone therapy right puberty blockers, well

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Speaker 2: it's reversible. You just tow off them and everything's fine.

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Speaker 2: It's not fine. You've already engaged in a rejection of

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Speaker 2: puberty and the body cannot then catch back up. It's

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01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 2: not how it works. You have altered the body for forever.

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Speaker 2: It isn't reversible. It is a lie told by liars

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01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 2: that want children to be abused. I don't believe in

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Speaker 2: supporting child abuse. I believe in fighting people who abuse

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Speaker 2: children so they stop and they never do it again.

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Speaker 2: Dear Lord, we put these people on a registry. We

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Speaker 2: put them on a list. If they live in our neighborhoods.

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Speaker 2: I think if you're a doctor who performs the stuff

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Speaker 2: boom back on the list, do you save me? Tony?

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Speaker 2: Did you just say lists? I'm talking about children here.

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Speaker 2: I'm not talking about somebody's politics. They're talking about their

891
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Speaker 2: own with another adult sexual proclivities. I don't care. I

892
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Speaker 2: don't care what you're into in the bedroom. You do

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Speaker 2: you boo boo? Children? I care a lot. And the

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Speaker 2: freaks on the left are like, why are you always

895
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 2: obsessed with other people's bodies? Why am I obsessed with

896
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Speaker 2: you wanting to touch a child's body? I don't know,

897
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 2: because of normal, because I'm a decent human being who

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Speaker 2: knows that my job as an adult is to protect children,

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Speaker 2: more often than not from themselves, but certainly from predators

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Speaker 2: like people who want to abuse them. Back to Secretary Kennedy.

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Speaker 16: There is the moral obligation to do no harm. There

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Speaker 16: is divine wars in every person. It shines most rightly

903
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 16: in our children. Bad Worth commands us to protect them.

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Speaker 16: And as long as I serve as AGHS secretary, this agent.

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Speaker 2: That was weird. The audio just cut out. That was weird.

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01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 2: The audio just cut out. That was very strange, very odd.

907
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 2: How that just happened. You don't usually want that to happen.

908
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 2: As there were more conversations to take place from the

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Speaker 2: Secretary of Health and Human Services there and from doctor

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Speaker 2: Oz runs Medicare Medicaid services. I cannot say it enough.

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01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 2: I cannot be more engaged in what it is that

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Speaker 2: we're discussing here. You quite simply cannot have a society

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Speaker 2: where children are abused and say nothing and do nothing.

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Speaker 2: And every conversation about gender affirming care, every single one

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Speaker 2: was built and created to keep silent so they could

916
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Speaker 2: go about doing what they do, including every conversation of

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Speaker 2: if you don't allow these children to mutilate themselves, they'll

918
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Speaker 2: commit suicide. It was a lie then, it was a

919
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Speaker 2: lie now and their liars and they're still lying. Suicide

920
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 2: doesn't come from this idea of you won't let me

921
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 2: do something. It comes from Unhappiness comes from not knowing

922
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 2: how to live with oneself and one's issues, and to

923
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 2: not see the way out and not know how to

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01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 2: work through that to the better tomorrow, which does indeed

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Speaker 2: ex exist. I'm living proof, I am living proof that

926
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Speaker 2: these things are real, that you can overcome it. But

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Speaker 2: I do want to share with you the part of

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Speaker 2: the conversation with Chloe Cole. I'll get to that in

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Speaker 2: just a moment. But I was sharing some updates on

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Speaker 2: Greg Biffle, NASCAR driver, and this plane crash that took

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Speaker 2: place in North Carolina, and the plane is linked to Biffle,

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Speaker 2: so it's still owned the Blue We know the plane

933
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Speaker 2: is owned by him, but we don't know all the details.

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Speaker 2: We're hearing that Biffle was on the plane that crash

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Speaker 2: and there were no survivors there in North Carolina. We're

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01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 2: still waiting on levels of confirmation. So with that, I

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01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 2: just wanted to if this is happening, I just wanted

938
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Speaker 2: to give as much up on it as I possibly can.

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Speaker 2: We come back, I will have the commentary from Chloe

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Speaker 2: Cole that you absolutely have to hear. Keep it here.

941
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Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 11: It's in order to be here.

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Speaker 13: And to be able to speak on behalf of American

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Speaker 13: children whose innocence and health are being compromised.

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Speaker 11: His lives are being ripped apart.

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Speaker 2: Chloe Cole, Tony Katz, Tony Katz Today, she tells the

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Speaker 2: story of being transitioned and then detransitioning, and the horror

948
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Speaker 2: show therein. Anybody who supports gender affirming care, stop and

949
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Speaker 2: listen to this mix.

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Speaker 11: And medical system that have harmed us.

951
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Speaker 13: I've become an advocate for protecting children from what is

952
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Speaker 13: often mistakenly referred to as gender affirming care because it

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Speaker 13: is by no means but unscientific medical abuse that violates

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Speaker 13: every tenet of medical ethics. Absolutely, absolutely, this ideology is

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01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 13: festering at an unimaginable scale within our hospital systems, our culture,

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Speaker 13: our communities, into many within our own families.

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Speaker 11: For me, it started with being lied to about who

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Speaker 11: I was my adults. Outside of my family.

959
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Speaker 13: I was made to feel that the way that God

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Speaker 13: beautifully made me was in fact a mistake, a mistake

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Speaker 13: that could only be fixed by so called modern medicine.

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Speaker 11: My doctors.

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Speaker 13: Rather than godding me, they affirmed my childish misgivings about

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Speaker 13: my developing body, my belief that I wasn't just a tomboy,

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Speaker 13: that if I like having short hair, if I liked

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Speaker 13: being around the boys more, if I behaved more like

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Speaker 13: my older brothers, I actually was a boy who just

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Speaker 13: so happened to be born in a girl's body. At

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Speaker 13: thirteen years old, I was administered purity blockers and distosterone

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01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 13: and high doses, and when I was only fifteen, they

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Speaker 13: removed my breasts.

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Speaker 11: My questions about.

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Speaker 13: Whether I will be able to have children, or about

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Speaker 13: the future of my reproductive health and my.

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Speaker 11: Overall health have gone unanswered.

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Speaker 13: But that mistepped me ensured that I am never going

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Speaker 13: to be able to nourish whatever and I may have.

978
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Speaker 13: And this happened before I was even mature enough to

979
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Speaker 13: understand that one day I would aspire to.

980
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Speaker 11: Become a mother.

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Speaker 13: Because of the moral feelings of my doctors, I forever

982
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Speaker 13: have lost significant parts of my identity as a now

983
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Speaker 13: adult woman while I was still a child.

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Speaker 2: I have spoken to her eyed eyes, and it is heartbreaking.

985
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:34,799
Speaker 2: And the story she tells is the story of abuse

986
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 2: and of doctors who failed. And they're not good and

987
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 2: they're not decent, and they should, in my view, lose

988
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:43,679
Speaker 2: their licenses. This is full on abuse, This is torture,

989
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 2: this is disfigurement. No, never a conversation about the future.

990
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 2: It's more these kids, no, no, no, only worry about

991
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 2: how you feel right now. We don't want to think

992
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 2: about your future, and whenever anybody de transitions, they are

993
01:09:56,280 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 2: immediately cast aside. Nobody wants to deal with this reality.

994
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 2: That's the truth. They don't want to deal with the

995
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,679
Speaker 2: reality of what they have done and what they are

996
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 2: doing to kids. Any chance to hear Chloe Cole speak,

997
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 2: I try and make that happen. I try and make

998
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 2: that happen because it's the manipulation. And why did I

999
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:31,640
Speaker 2: favor rediffracting because you think I want these people to

1000
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 2: be in office. Look what they're willing to say, okay

1001
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 2: too regarding kids. And if people are offended by that,

1002
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 2: I think the offense is what you're willing to say,

1003
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:43,640
Speaker 2: ook too, about to be using kids. I don't have

1004
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 2: to apologize, you do. Good God, there's more show. Keep

1005
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 2: it right here. This is Tony Kats Today. Find everything

1006
01:10:53,439 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 2: at Tony kats dot com.

1007
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Speaker 1: Live from Baal Hartbiner and the Crossroads of America.

1008
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz Today. I am only one man with

1009
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 2: one opinion on President Trump's speech last night. You are

1010
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 2: your own man or woman or man or woman. Yeah,

1011
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 2: that's basically your options. Tony Kats Tony Kats Today, Good

1012
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 2: to be with you, and you've got your opinions on

1013
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 2: the speech last night. Ed Morrissey has his opinion as well.

1014
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Speaker 2: Ed Morrissey joins me right now from hotair dot com.

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Speaker 2: President Trump speaks to America last night prime time address. Now,

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Speaker 2: I will tell you, Ed that I have been saying

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Speaker 2: for a while that they have to sell the story

1018
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Speaker 2: to America. Here's what's going on with the economy. We

1019
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 2: understand things aren't great. Right now, here's what we did here,

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Speaker 2: here's what we did there. Here's what's going to start working.

1021
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Speaker 2: And here's what's gonna matter. And yes, we have these

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Speaker 2: invason Yes they're not yet in the ground yet, they're

1023
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Speaker 2: not shovel ready yet. We're not seeing the dollars yet.

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Speaker 2: But when we do, here's what happens. And here's how

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Speaker 2: it's better. Here's how this all turns around. They had

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01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 2: started this with we're gonna fix this in a day,

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01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 2: and now they want to get into well, we had

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01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 2: to fix Biden's mess. I don't mind the admission that

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01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 2: you have to fix Biden's mess. I think it was

1030
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 2: very poor messaging from the beginning. I have said so repeatedly.

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Speaker 2: I said so on Sean Spicer's show. That got to

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Speaker 2: Scott Bessett, The Treasury Secretary. Steve Bannon brought it up

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Speaker 2: to Scott Bessett and then referred to me as a

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Speaker 2: stock Republican, which might be the most insulting thing I

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Speaker 2: have ever heard in my entire life. Stock Republican Steve

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Speaker 2: Bannon kiss Mike. Anyway, and now I'm seeing them tell

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Speaker 2: the story, which is really good and really important, except

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I liked the way they told

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Speaker 2: the story last night. You read the speech, you didn't

1040
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,600
Speaker 2: watch it, which I love. You read the speech, and

1041
01:12:57,640 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 2: there's always a little bit of difference in the two things.

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Speaker 2: What did you take from it? Well?

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Speaker 4: I took that this is really the launch, the official

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Speaker 4: launch of the midterm campaign. You know, the White House

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Speaker 4: has been saying that Donald Trump is really going to

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Speaker 4: put himself at the top of the ticket. This is

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Speaker 4: a little unusual for presidents who generally like to have

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Speaker 4: a little bit of distance from midterms because they don't

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Speaker 4: really want to make it a referendum on their presidency.

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Speaker 4: But this is a little bit different situation. The majorities

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Speaker 4: are so narrow in Congress that Donald Trump is really

1052
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Speaker 4: needs to make sure that he can do whatever he

1053
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Speaker 4: can to hold serve in both the House and the

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Speaker 4: Senate if he wants to have any of these policies

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Speaker 4: be made permit. Most of the stuff that he's done

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Speaker 4: so far has been on executive authority, right, which can

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Speaker 4: be reversed. This is the reason why he was able

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Speaker 4: to reverse a lot of what Biden did was because

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Speaker 4: Biden didn't get a lot of this stuff through Congress.

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Speaker 4: Biden did it on executive authority and so legitimate. I'm

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Speaker 4: not saying that was illegitimate, but the thing about executive

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Speaker 4: authority is when you get a different executive they can

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Speaker 4: change everything. And Trump has done that, and Biden did

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Speaker 4: it to Trump before that, and Trump did it to

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Speaker 4: Obama before that. What I took from this is that

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Speaker 4: this is a pretty good platform to launch the midterm

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Speaker 4: campaigns on. I think he was pretty disciplined, made sure

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Speaker 4: that he got some real data in there. And then

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Speaker 4: this morning he got a gift because the consumer price

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Speaker 4: index numbers came out and it was unexpectedly significantly lower

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Speaker 4: than two point.

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Speaker 2: Seven percent as opposed to the three point one percent

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Speaker 2: that was predicted.

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Speaker 4: Right, and it's down from the summer spike. And you know,

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Speaker 4: and I know that inflation rose over the summer, but

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Speaker 4: it didn't really go up that high, right, I mean

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Speaker 4: we were talking nine percent nine point one percent annualized

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Speaker 4: CPI during the Biden administration. This was a summer spike

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Speaker 4: that is was caused at least in part by the tariffs,

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Speaker 4: and then and now it's coming back down and the

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Speaker 4: tariffs are still there. So I think Trump's got a

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Speaker 4: little bit of he can run like a little second

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Speaker 4: victory lap.

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Speaker 2: Today.

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Speaker 4: Roger Kimball actually had a really good piece at Spectator

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Speaker 4: today which was that what did we elect Donald Trump

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Speaker 4: to do? We elected him to close the border. He's

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Speaker 4: done that. We elected to get the illegal immigrants out

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Speaker 4: of the country. Well two and a half million of

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Speaker 4: them so far have left, so he's well on his

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Speaker 4: way there. He was elected to restore American credibility abroad,

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Speaker 4: which is a key part, as Roger Kimball says, about

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Speaker 4: making America great again, and he's done that as well.

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Speaker 4: So he took victory laps on all those things and

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Speaker 4: that makes a lot of sense. But he did focus

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Speaker 4: mostly on economics, which is what they're going to have

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Speaker 4: to do. And so, yes, I think we talked about

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Speaker 4: this last week. We said you know, he needs to

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Speaker 4: get his tight ten. He needs to go out and

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Speaker 4: get his He needs to tune this message up. The

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Speaker 4: only way he's going to do that. You think the

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Speaker 4: performer is to go out on the road and tight

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Speaker 4: and do that.

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Speaker 2: I think last night was his tight ten.

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Speaker 4: No, I think he's getting closer to it.

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Speaker 16: Though.

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Speaker 4: I think he's getting closer to it. And that wasn't

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Speaker 4: really a format for a tight ten anyway. I mean,

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Speaker 4: this is when we' talking about a tight ten, we're

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Speaker 4: talking about rallies and specific areas and stuff like this.

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Speaker 4: This was a White House address that is sort of

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Speaker 4: you know, it's you know, the fireside chats of FDR,

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Speaker 4: that type of thing. It's a different genre, and I

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Speaker 4: think he wrote I think they whoever wrote the speech

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Speaker 4: wrote it for that genre. I think he, according to

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Speaker 4: the small clips that I've seen of this, again, I

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Speaker 4: didn't watch the whole thing. Seemed like he delivered it

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Speaker 4: fairly in a fairly disciplined manner, didn't stray too much,

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Speaker 4: had all the usual bomb bass that was written into

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Speaker 4: the speech. So if you read the speech, it's written

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Speaker 4: into the speech, and that's classic Donald Trump. And I

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Speaker 4: think he's going to be who he's going to be.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I think it was. It's a fairly effective speech.

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Speaker 4: Whether it moves the needle or not is what we're

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Speaker 4: going to see. But it's not going to move the

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Speaker 4: needle by doing that from the White House. He's going

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Speaker 4: to have to be on.

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Speaker 2: The road talking. Let me, let me engage in some

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Speaker 2: disagreement here, talking to Ed Morrissey off hot air dot com.

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Speaker 2: It's an effective message. It was not an effective speech.

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Speaker 2: It was given with way too much gruffness and way

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Speaker 2: too loud as opposed to being explanatory and saying, here's

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Speaker 2: where we're going, guys, I have got this under control.

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Speaker 2: Follow me here, and here's going to be the better result.

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Speaker 2: So it isn't in a matter of delivery. It did

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Speaker 2: not deliver well, and it certainly seemed disjointed and out

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Speaker 2: of place for what would be traditionally a primetime address.

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Speaker 2: That said Trump is disjointed from what anything traditionally would be.

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Speaker 2: So it makes perfect sense, Yes, this is going down

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Speaker 2: the road a better explaining oneselves, and yes, there are

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01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:46,640
Speaker 2: plenty of good things to talk about. The problem is,

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Speaker 2: there hasn't been a messaging until now, Until recently from

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Speaker 2: the White House of how would they want it messaged?

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01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 2: So you've got people engaging in these very kind of

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01:17:57,479 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 2: here there everywhere scattershot conversation trying to figure out which

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01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:03,639
Speaker 2: message is going to hold. But you need the team

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Speaker 2: to be able to lead that down. There are successes,

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Speaker 2: for sure, and now you've got to go about pummeling

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01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 2: a media that refuses to talk about those successes. So

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Speaker 2: sending the proper message is one thing. Now how do

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01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 2: you get media to come along with you and how

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Speaker 2: do you counter that? That's I think the next step

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Speaker 2: for this White House as you start to build the

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Speaker 2: momentum towards what happens with this economy on July first,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, because that day will determine what happens

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Speaker 2: on the midterms.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: No, I or you can argue maybe July the last

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Speaker 4: week of July when q Q two results come out.

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Speaker 4: We still haven't seen the GDP yet for Q three,

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Speaker 4: but it's rumored to be around four personisive.

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Speaker 2: We all agree four percent GDP is out of control growth.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy. Yeah. So again, I think.

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Speaker 4: That there's going to be wins that they're going to

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Speaker 4: be able to that they're going to be able to

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Speaker 4: frame up as arguments for staying the course. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I go back, you know, forty five years or forty

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Speaker 4: four years to forty three years, I guess to Reagan's

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Speaker 4: midterm message in nineteen eighty two when the economy was

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Speaker 4: not doing well and because they were having to reverse

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Speaker 4: several years of economic mismanagement and regulatory overreach in order

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Speaker 4: to create an economy that actually worked. And Reagan's message

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Speaker 4: in that midterm was stay the course. And that's going

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Speaker 4: to be Trump's message. He's just not Reagan, so he's

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Speaker 4: not going to deliver it like Reagan. Reagan Reagan had this,

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Speaker 4: you know, this clear sort of calm leadership style, calm,

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Speaker 4: jovial leadership style. Donald Trump is bombastic, and his leadership

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01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 4: style is to be the boss and to say this

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Speaker 4: is what's going to happen. He's going to be his

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Speaker 4: authentic self. And he has to be his authentic self.

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Speaker 4: It's what got him elected twice to the presidency. And

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Speaker 4: and that's what he has to do. He has to

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01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 4: go out and dazzle people with this message. But the

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01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 4: message itself has to be good, and it has to

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Speaker 4: be valid, and it has to have data behind it

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Speaker 4: in order to do it, and I think that that

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Speaker 4: is what you see in this speech, especially if you

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01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 4: read it, you see that they're recognizing this and they're

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01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 4: looking for specific data points to sell, and we're going

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Speaker 4: to have more as they go along.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Ed Morrissey off hotair dot Com, one of

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Speaker 2: the things in the speech really quick was the Warrior

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Speaker 2: Dividend seventeen hundred and seventy six dollars to four hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty thousand members of the military. I don't mind

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Speaker 2: military members getting a bonus. It's a hard thing to

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Speaker 2: complain about, but seventeen hundred and seventy six dollars is

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Speaker 2: too cutesy for words, and this could very much be

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Speaker 2: taken as, oh, this is like paying lou student loans.

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Speaker 2: We're just going to buy votes right now. We're just

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Speaker 2: going to write checks from I don't know where the

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01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 2: money comes from and buy votes. So I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: if a mechanism already exists to get military members bonuses.

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01:20:57,600 --> 01:20:59,760
Speaker 2: It's going to be weird to see people complain about this.

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01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 2: But this is just a little bit of qtz QUTESI

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Speaker 2: And I don't know how much a fan I am.

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Speaker 2: I am of qt QT you want to give the bonus,

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Speaker 2: give the damn bonus.

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Speaker 4: I would have preferred seventeen eighty seven because that's when

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Speaker 4: we adopted the constitution.

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Speaker 2: Or or maybe.

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Speaker 16: I have.

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Speaker 4: Millions the Louisiana purchased in eighteen oh four, right, we

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Speaker 4: should have done eighteen hundred and four dollars. Look, I

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Speaker 4: am not a fan of stimulus checks, which is what

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Speaker 4: this is. Really I am fine with them doing a

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Speaker 4: bonus to the military. Uh, they're paying for it through

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01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 4: the tariff income that's going to create That could create

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Speaker 4: a legal fight. A I don't think Congress is going

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Speaker 4: to do that with the military dividends, the warrior dividends,

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Speaker 4: the prob they probably won't fight it because it's just

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01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 4: it's going to look too churlish for words. However, what

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Speaker 4: I was happy about was we all thought that he

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Speaker 4: was going to announce a new massive stimulus check for everybody,

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Speaker 4: which was going to you know, you know, one hundred

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Speaker 4: billion dollars a couple hundred billion dollars or something like

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Speaker 4: that and costs. And I'm happy that they didn't do

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Speaker 4: that because the problem with inflation is not enough supply

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Speaker 4: to meet demand. So this was the and this is

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Speaker 4: the trap that Biden fell into four years ago. You

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Speaker 4: had a supply chain crisis. You didn't have you didn't

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Speaker 4: have supply, and what did Biden do. He spiked demand.

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Speaker 4: Is what created the massive inflationary wave that took place

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Speaker 4: over the next two years. So this administration needs to

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Speaker 4: focus on supply side economic policies boosting supply, and they're

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Speaker 4: doing it with energy for instance. Energy is a good

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Speaker 4: example of this. But they need and they're doing it

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Speaker 4: through the tariffs. Negotiating for investments in the United States,

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Speaker 4: I think Donald Trump said something like eighteen trillion. I

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01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 4: don't know how accurate that was, but certainly there's a

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Speaker 4: significant amount of capital flowing back into the United States

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Speaker 4: for investment. That's what needs to continue to happen. You

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Speaker 4: don't want to spike demand in the middle of this

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Speaker 4: because you're gonna get inflation when.

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Speaker 2: You do that.

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Speaker 4: So I was actually happy that it was only limited

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Speaker 4: to the one point four million members of the Armed Services,

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Speaker 4: who I am very happy that they will get a

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Speaker 4: seventeen seventy six bonus to their paychecks this Christmas. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I'm happy it was limited to that.

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Speaker 2: Edmarscy hotair dot com. We've got much more to talk about.

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Speaker 2: So you stay right there. You all stay right there

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Speaker 2: on Tony Katz And this is Tony Kats Today. So

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Speaker 2: what am I supposed to do about this economy? Because

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01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 2: I take a look at precious metals and they go up,

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01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 2: and that's a hedge against inflation. I take a look

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Speaker 2: at prices and say they're still too high at many places.

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Speaker 2: Yet I see that GDP continues to move upward. Are

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01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 2: we hearing about four percent? And we've got November prices

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Speaker 2: even though the data was delayed at two point seven

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Speaker 2: for the CPI, that's below three percent is inflation and

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Speaker 2: check Tony Kats, Tony Kats Today. Good to be with you,

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Speaker 2: Doctor Mattwell joins US economist at the University of Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: I know that you're busy, you're taking care of a

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Speaker 2: bunch of things before the holidays, but you made some

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Speaker 2: time for us. I appreciate it. You've taken a look

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Speaker 2: at some of these numbers. It's two point seven, it's

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Speaker 2: even lower than three percent on the core CPI. What

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Speaker 2: does this tell you?

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Speaker 9: It tells me you should take the report, wadd it

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01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 9: up into a big piece of paper and throw it

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01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 9: in the trash. This is a worthless report. And here's why. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: it's two point seven year over year, but we don't

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Speaker 9: have October data, we don't have November data. They just

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Speaker 9: took one big, massive year over year piece of data.

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Speaker 9: There's so much missing information in this you can't draw

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01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:38,640
Speaker 9: conclusion the market. The market had a big yawn. It

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01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:41,760
Speaker 9: just said, oh oh, well, that's nice, move along. There's

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01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:43,800
Speaker 9: nothing to see here. And there's nothing to see here.

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Speaker 9: It is not a report that you can use. I

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01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:49,480
Speaker 9: would ask everybody don't rely on it when you're making decisions.

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Speaker 2: So why is that? Is it because the data is delayed,

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Speaker 2: or is it because the data is incomplete.

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Speaker 9: It's incomplete because they've decided they a decision since we

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Speaker 9: last spoke that they're simply not going to try to

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Speaker 9: collect data for October November. They're just going to skip it.

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Speaker 9: They're not going to go back and recreate it. So

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Speaker 9: we're looking at simply year over year data. So we're

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Speaker 9: including way too much data from eleven twelve months ago,

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Speaker 9: and we're talking data that before Trump was president is

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Speaker 9: included in this data. The most important, which is the

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Speaker 9: most recent two months it's just not in there, and

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Speaker 9: so that's unfortunate that they decided not to go back

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Speaker 9: and collect historical data. They're just going to exclude it

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Speaker 9: for the future.

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Speaker 2: Into statement talking to doctor Matt Will economists at the

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Speaker 2: University of Indianapolis, what do you mean they're going to

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Speaker 2: exclude it for the future.

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Speaker 9: They're not even going to go back and recreate it.

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Speaker 9: We're not going to know if October was up or down,

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Speaker 9: if this November was up or down. It's possible that

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Speaker 9: the November data had a big jump or could have

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Speaker 9: been a big decrease. They simply aren't going to collect

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Speaker 9: the data. So we can't multiply by twelve. You and I, Tony,

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Speaker 9: we always multiply by twelve to get the annual number.

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Speaker 9: We can't do that now. So and they're not even

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Speaker 9: going to collect the information to see what it was.

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Speaker 2: By the way, these numbers sent the markets nuts. A

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Speaker 2: doubt one moment over four hundred could have been higher

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Speaker 2: by the time it closes the Nasdaq above a four hundred,

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Speaker 2: you're making the argument that these numbers are incomplete. I

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Speaker 2: asked you, Are you saying that that's political or should

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Speaker 2: I be looking at that as saying, well, that's the

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Speaker 2: reality of not doing things in real time because of

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Speaker 2: the shutdown.

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Speaker 9: Yes, it's the second one. It's not doing things in

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Speaker 9: real time because of the shutdown. Is there's nothing political

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Speaker 9: about it. They simply aren't going to go back and

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Speaker 9: spend the labor and the manpower to get it done.

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Speaker 2: So, now we take a look at this economy. I'm

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Speaker 2: going to give you two numbers to think about right here, sir,

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Speaker 2: West Texas crewed. This is the perb barrel price. Is

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Speaker 2: that fifty six dollars and fifty cents. It's ticked up

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Speaker 2: a little bit today. And the brend crude, which comes

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Speaker 2: out of the oceans has just crossed over sixty dollars,

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Speaker 2: just over sixty dollars as I'm talking to you right now. Now.

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Speaker 2: These numbers have been in the mid sixties for a

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Speaker 2: long time and then they both dropped under sixty dollars

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01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 2: about well. Meanwhile, silver, not even gold, gold is at

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Speaker 2: forty three hundred and forty two dollars an ounce. Silver

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Speaker 2: has cracked sixty six dollars an ounce full discloser. I

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Speaker 2: sold mine at fifty one and I did pretty well,

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Speaker 2: So you can imagine I could be angry, but I'm

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Speaker 2: not a guy who gets angry. The point is an

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Speaker 2: ounce of silver is worth more than a barrel of oil.

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Speaker 2: You're an economist, what does that mean?

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Speaker 9: Hedge against inflation? It's pure and simple. Silver and gold

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Speaker 9: are hedges against inflation. So that tells you the people

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Speaker 9: in the commodities market, they are strongly in favor of

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Speaker 9: the fact that inflation is not killed. It's here, and

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Speaker 9: they're going to bed against it by putting their money

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Speaker 9: into commodities. And that's why that cracked the number you

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01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:47,720
Speaker 9: just mentioned. They're simply hedging against inflation. So it contradicts

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Speaker 9: the other data that we just got from the CPI.

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Speaker 2: And that's the part that gets everybody nney. What are

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Speaker 2: you supposed to look at? What are you supposed to

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Speaker 2: think when when you see how Americans act in general,

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01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 2: not the markets Americans you're to be an economist is

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01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 2: to be a philosopher's to be an observer of moods

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Speaker 2: and movements. What are the American people telling you?

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Speaker 9: You know what I believe, I strongly say this all

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Speaker 9: the time. Trump is his own worst enemy. And what

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Speaker 9: the people believe is they know that that this guy

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01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 9: can't get out of his way. For all the great

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01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 9: things he does, he does some bad things. And I

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01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:25,439
Speaker 9: sound like a broken record when I say that, but

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Speaker 9: that's what we're getting today's data. CPI says inflation's not

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Speaker 9: as bad as we thought. Silver says inflation is bad.

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Speaker 9: People say, hey, my economy's good, and some people say, eh,

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Speaker 9: economy doesn't look so great, Tony. We're in a massive

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Speaker 9: state of uncertainty and confusion at the moment, and I

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Speaker 9: think the President is causing this by contradicting his good

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Speaker 9: policies with some bad ones.

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Speaker 2: Is this all about tariffs or is this all about

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Speaker 2: something else?

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Speaker 9: It's all about tariff, Sony, because when you look at

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Speaker 9: the year over year, remember that's the two point seven

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Speaker 9: dator we're looking at that includes pre tariff data the

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Speaker 9: post tariff data. That number is higher than it really

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Speaker 9: than it appears at two point seven. The post tariff

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Speaker 9: data is still coming into the information and so we're

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Speaker 9: going to see that. We saw it in the is

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Speaker 9: MPMI report earlier this month. We saw that number creeping up.

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Speaker 9: There is still inflation, especially on the whole sale side.

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Speaker 9: That's where we're seeing it, and it's not gone inflation affordability.

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Speaker 9: You know, that's the word that the Democrats are trying

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01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:33,240
Speaker 9: to use. Trump needs to legitimately admit, Okay, we've got

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Speaker 9: an inflation problem. Let's fix it.

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Speaker 2: And do we have a manufacturing problem? Still?

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Speaker 9: Define manufacturing problem? Are we making stuff?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 9: We are still on nine months nine months of declining

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Speaker 9: manufacturing in the US. We haven't seen that kind of

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Speaker 9: decline since the pandemic. The terriffs are causing The tariffs

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Speaker 9: are causing the manufacturing shrinking in the United States. And

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Speaker 9: Trump needs to get rid of these dang terriffts because

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Speaker 9: they're the ones hurting the manufacturing. He thinks it helps.

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Speaker 9: But I gotta tell you, as good as he is,

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Speaker 9: he's wrong on this, and he's been wrong from the beginning.

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Speaker 2: But he's not moving from it. He told you last

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Speaker 2: night and the speech tarr for the most beautiful word

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Speaker 2: in the world.

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Speaker 9: Well, and you know why I got to tell you. You know,

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Speaker 9: I'm a Trumpan, and I'll admit it on the air.

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Speaker 9: I voted for Trumble. But this guy, you know, he's there.

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Speaker 9: He could be one of the greatest economic presidents of

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Speaker 9: history if he would stop strangding himself with people to

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Speaker 9: tell me you already.

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Speaker 2: Is doctor Batt Will, economist at the University of Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you taking the time to be with us.

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Speaker 2: More to get to this is Tony Kats today Edmarssey

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Speaker 2: Hota dot com. He is back with us because one

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Speaker 2: of the big fights going on in the House that

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01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 2: now is making its way to the Senate is the

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Speaker 2: conversation of Obamacare subsidies. This was the reason, obstensibly that

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01:30:57,880 --> 01:31:00,880
Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer put the Senate in such precarious position of

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Speaker 2: shutting down the government. After forty five days, he loses

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01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:07,880
Speaker 2: the fight, the government is reopened, but he doesn't give

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Speaker 2: up the fight. He wants three years of Obamacare subsidies continued.

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Speaker 2: And of course these subsidies are not anything that was

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Speaker 2: original to Obamacare the Affordable Care Act. They came during COVID,

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Speaker 2: So these are subsidies that were COVID specific to help

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Speaker 2: people afford what was supposed to be affordable care under

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Speaker 2: the Affordable Care Act. And then Democrats are claiming that

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Speaker 2: if Republicans don't extend this for three years, they're killing

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Speaker 2: healthcare and cutting healthcare and increasing the cost of health

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Speaker 2: care for millions of Americans. Tony Kats Tony Katz today,

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Speaker 2: did that all make sense? Did I cover it all good?

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01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 2: I wanted to make sure I covered it all ed

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Speaker 2: Marcy as I said hotair dot Com, Glad you're back

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Speaker 2: with us. So the Democrats no quit in them. They

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Speaker 2: get four Republicans, including Representative Mike Lawler of New York,

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Speaker 2: to come across and sign a discharge petition that brings

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Speaker 2: us to the front of the line. Is going to

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Speaker 2: force the House to vote on it. Meanwhile, Speaker Johnson

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Speaker 2: puts out his own plan, which is based on a

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Speaker 2: Trump asque kind of plan, which isn't a plan to

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01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:11,840
Speaker 2: get rid of Obamacare. It's a plan to try and

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Speaker 2: pretend they're doing a better job on healthcare, which they're

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01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:17,519
Speaker 2: not one hundred percent wrong about, and say stop giving

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Speaker 2: money to hospitals and start giving the money back to

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Speaker 2: the people. Break down the component parts here and how

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01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:26,200
Speaker 2: this is going to get used politically. What's going on

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Speaker 2: with House Republicans and what's going on with Senate Democrats

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Speaker 2: right now regarding Obamacare and subsidies.

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Speaker 4: Well, look, I mean, let's just talk about the discharge petition.

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01:32:35,640 --> 01:32:39,280
Speaker 4: It addresses an actual political problem for both parties, but

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Speaker 4: Republicans in particular at this moment, which is that those

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Speaker 4: prices were going to go up in the exchanges starting

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Speaker 4: in what a couple of weeks. Mike Johnson's idea was

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Speaker 4: to create a reconciliation package in the next budget resolution,

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Speaker 4: which probably would be somewhere in the March frame, that

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Speaker 4: would redo Obamacare in such a way that those subsidies

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Speaker 4: would not be necessary, that they would just lower the

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Speaker 4: costs directly. The problem with that, though, is that you're

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01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:13,800
Speaker 4: going to be sticking these households with these higher costs

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Speaker 4: for the next several months, hoping that you're going to

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Speaker 4: be able to get a reconciliation package that does this

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Speaker 4: through through Congress. That was tried once before, was tried

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Speaker 4: eight years ago, when Republicans failed to get their reconciliation

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01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:32,559
Speaker 4: package through. That was John McCain's famous you know, no

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Speaker 4: vote on the floor of the Senate, one of his

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Speaker 4: last uh, one of his one of the last things

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Speaker 4: he actually did in the Senate of note. And they

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01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:44,439
Speaker 4: still don't even have a plan correct to do this, right,

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01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:48,679
Speaker 4: I mean, so they're basically, you know, Johnson was asking

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Speaker 4: his moderate members, the ones that are in at risk

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01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:56,080
Speaker 4: districts in the midterms to just basically say, well, just

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01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:59,599
Speaker 4: suck it up and trust me. Politically speaking, that's kind

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01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:03,160
Speaker 4: of stupid. Now, I agree that these subsidies should not

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01:34:03,200 --> 01:34:06,320
Speaker 4: have been extended. It was Democrats that sunset these things

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01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:09,519
Speaker 4: because they passed it through their own reconciliation package and

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Speaker 4: had to make sure that it was deficit neutral. That's

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Speaker 4: the reason why the sunset clause was in there in

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Speaker 4: the first place. And both Republicans and Democrats have done

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Speaker 4: this in reconciliation package. Is they put things in like

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Speaker 4: the tax cuts Donald Trump did in twenty seventeen, which

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Speaker 4: is also a reconciliation package with sunsets, knowing that Congress

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Speaker 4: couldn't allow the sunsets to actually take place because it

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01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:34,080
Speaker 4: would hike either taxes or fees in this particular case

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Speaker 4: on consumers. So the whole thing is a dishonest sort

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Speaker 4: of you know, three card Monty anyway, But beyond that,

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Speaker 4: you could have just passed a one year extension and

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Speaker 4: then done the reconciliation thing. That would have mooted the

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Speaker 4: one year extension. I don't understand the three year extension.

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Speaker 4: A one year extension would have moved it past the

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Speaker 4: midterms so that it's no longer on the table in

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Speaker 4: a sense for the midterm elections, and allow you to

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Speaker 4: do that reconciliation package. Now, Johnson didn't want to do that.

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump even said he'd be interested, or at least

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Speaker 4: he was willing to discuss an extension while while they

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Speaker 4: were doing those things. So this whole thing, to me

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01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:21,320
Speaker 4: is basically political malpractice, largely on Johnson's part, and he

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01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:23,360
Speaker 4: got called out on it. If he had floated a

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Speaker 4: one year extension, those people would never have signed onto

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01:35:26,240 --> 01:35:30,360
Speaker 4: the discharge petition. One year extension, clean extension, push it

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Speaker 4: off until the next open enrollment period, and then give

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Speaker 4: us a chance in a reconciliation package to address it

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Speaker 4: so it no longer is an issue at the midterms.

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Speaker 4: That would have been the smart political play, and I

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01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:46,600
Speaker 4: don't know why Republicans didn't want to do that. I

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Speaker 4: think it got down to a manhood measuring contest between

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Speaker 4: Republicans and Chuck Schumer, and that was dumb. They had

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01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:58,120
Speaker 4: the ability to actually control the outcome here and I

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Speaker 4: think they blew it.

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Speaker 2: Talking to marscyatpotair dot Com, the important thing to learn

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Speaker 2: here about Democrats is that Democrats always act like they're

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01:36:06,080 --> 01:36:08,880
Speaker 2: in charge even when they're not in charge. It's it's

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01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:11,000
Speaker 2: part of their charm, and it's part of an attitude

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01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:15,720
Speaker 2: that involves getting victories. Just pummel the other person to death,

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01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:20,759
Speaker 2: including lying. Because the subsidy conversation, it's not that healthcare

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01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:23,639
Speaker 2: costs go up, it's at a subsidy that just got

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01:36:23,680 --> 01:36:27,280
Speaker 2: into place during COVID goes away, which Democrats already had

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01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:29,920
Speaker 2: voted for. They already knew it was going to go away.

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01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:33,240
Speaker 2: But Republicans allowed themselves to be turned in the in

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01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:35,720
Speaker 2: the in the word game, as opposed to going on

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01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:38,679
Speaker 2: the full on attack and calling Chuck Schumer a liar

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01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:42,639
Speaker 2: in the well of the Senate while he spoke, interrupting him,

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01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:45,679
Speaker 2: badgering him, calling him a liar, telling him he doesn't

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01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:48,840
Speaker 2: know how to make a cheeseburger, going at him directly

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01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:52,960
Speaker 2: and with focus. Republicans still have not properly learned the

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01:36:53,080 --> 01:36:56,479
Speaker 2: very concept of the fight. But here we are now

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01:36:56,920 --> 01:36:59,160
Speaker 2: where they're pushing this a three year extension.

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Speaker 4: I mean again, this is the they're signing on to

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01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:04,840
Speaker 4: a three year extension because that was the only option

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01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:07,920
Speaker 4: that kept the prices from going up on the people

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01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:11,280
Speaker 4: that they want to go ask for votes later this year.

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01:37:11,400 --> 01:37:13,720
Speaker 4: This is you know, three of these guys in Pennsylvania,

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01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:18,800
Speaker 4: one of them was from New York. Those are blue

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01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:24,280
Speaker 4: to purple districts that these Republicans are winning that they're

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01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:27,720
Speaker 4: going to lose if they sit by and let these

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01:37:27,720 --> 01:37:32,000
Speaker 4: prices go up. And the issue is actually that prices

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01:37:32,200 --> 01:37:35,280
Speaker 4: are going up and Obamacare is not controlling those prices.

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01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:37,920
Speaker 4: The Republicans are right on that. Particular part of it

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01:37:37,960 --> 01:37:40,680
Speaker 4: is that Obamacare is completely failed in its mission to

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01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:43,920
Speaker 4: control costs. It doesn't control costs. It makes the worse.

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01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:46,200
Speaker 4: And the reason why it makes the worse is because

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01:37:46,200 --> 01:37:49,719
Speaker 4: it adheres even more tightly to a third party payer

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01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:55,720
Speaker 4: system where price signals are masked to consumers, and the

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01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:59,840
Speaker 4: Obamacare system sort of promises that you can run up

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01:37:59,840 --> 01:38:04,160
Speaker 4: the you know, the usage ratios on these things, which

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01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:07,240
Speaker 4: means that costco up, et cetera. There's a better way

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01:38:07,240 --> 01:38:09,880
Speaker 4: to reform this system. It's not politically palatable, but there

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01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:12,800
Speaker 4: is a better way to do it, and that's what

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01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:15,360
Speaker 4: Republicans are going to have to start offering if they

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Speaker 4: want to end this cost curve that's happening in healthcare.

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Speaker 2: I was just bringing up that Republicans put themselves in

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01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:25,759
Speaker 2: this box by a as you rightly point out, having

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01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:28,600
Speaker 2: no plan over the last fifteen years, no willingness to

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01:38:28,640 --> 01:38:31,439
Speaker 2: fight this over the last fifteen years, only now coming

1540
01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:34,680
Speaker 2: up with something that still doesn't solve the getting rid

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01:38:34,680 --> 01:38:38,240
Speaker 2: of Obamacare, which is necessary. You have to gut the ACA,

1542
01:38:38,280 --> 01:38:42,080
Speaker 2: as people like O. Vicroy over at Freeop explain, in

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01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:44,920
Speaker 2: order to restart a better system, you have to get

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01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:49,479
Speaker 2: rid of the fundamentals there that are so dangerous and damning.

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01:38:50,040 --> 01:38:52,600
Speaker 2: But I do wonder just on the politics of it.

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01:38:52,720 --> 01:38:55,320
Speaker 2: You talk about malpractice, right, that was the word that

1547
01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:59,439
Speaker 2: comes with Lawler used about Speaker Johnson. That's the word

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01:38:59,479 --> 01:39:03,080
Speaker 2: you use. This is the second discharge petition going the

1549
01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:06,200
Speaker 2: round regular order. You have a majority of the House

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01:39:06,240 --> 01:39:07,840
Speaker 2: signing it. It goes right to the front of the

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Speaker 2: line for a vote. Is Speaker Johnson in danger of

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01:39:12,200 --> 01:39:13,200
Speaker 2: losing the speakership?

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01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:16,120
Speaker 4: No, I don't think they want to do that. I mean,

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01:39:16,280 --> 01:39:18,760
Speaker 4: I think if that was the case, Marjorie Taylor Green

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01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:20,760
Speaker 4: would have stuck around, because I think she would have

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01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 4: wanted to be part of that. I don't think there's

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01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:28,120
Speaker 4: a first I could be stupid. He's not really the issue.

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01:39:28,160 --> 01:39:32,080
Speaker 4: The issue is a four seat majority or four vote

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01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:35,000
Speaker 4: it's a little bit more than I think it's seven seats,

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01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:38,880
Speaker 4: but basically it's a four vote swing, So discharge petitions.

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Speaker 4: In a normal situation where one party has thirty or

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01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:47,439
Speaker 4: forty seat majorities, a discharge petition would be basically a

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01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:48,200
Speaker 4: pr stunt.

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01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:49,000
Speaker 2: It would go.

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01:39:49,040 --> 01:39:53,679
Speaker 4: Nowhere, right, But when you only have a four vote

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01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:55,760
Speaker 4: swing or a three vote swing. At times it's been

1567
01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:57,759
Speaker 4: a two vote swing until they had that special election

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01:39:57,920 --> 01:40:03,880
Speaker 4: in Tennessee, discharge petitions are a real threat. And in

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01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:07,719
Speaker 4: both cases it would have been just better to find

1570
01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:09,720
Speaker 4: a way to get the Epstein files was the other one.

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01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:12,200
Speaker 4: We haven't mentioned what the other discharge petition was, but

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01:40:12,240 --> 01:40:14,000
Speaker 4: it would have been just better. And in the end,

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01:40:14,080 --> 01:40:16,680
Speaker 4: they finally, they finally came to this conclusion that it

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01:40:16,720 --> 01:40:20,080
Speaker 4: was just better to go along with it and vote

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01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:23,360
Speaker 4: for it so that you didn't have to explain why

1576
01:40:23,439 --> 01:40:27,880
Speaker 4: you were posting it or I mean, it was again

1577
01:40:27,960 --> 01:40:30,439
Speaker 4: a little bit of political malpractice. They figured it out

1578
01:40:30,439 --> 01:40:33,320
Speaker 4: towards the end. They didn't in this particular case. I

1579
01:40:33,360 --> 01:40:35,200
Speaker 4: don't know that this is going to be an ongoing

1580
01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:37,360
Speaker 4: thing because I think that there are I think they're

1581
01:40:37,439 --> 01:40:39,240
Speaker 4: running out of issues. Democrats a running out of issues

1582
01:40:39,280 --> 01:40:41,320
Speaker 4: where they can peel off Republicans for stuff like this.

1583
01:40:41,960 --> 01:40:44,000
Speaker 4: But this is, I mean, this was they left it

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01:40:44,040 --> 01:40:46,040
Speaker 4: on the table. They left this potential on the table,

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01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:49,520
Speaker 4: and Democrats took advantage of it. And Jeffries saw the opening.

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Speaker 2: And with the idea of the money not going to

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01:40:51,160 --> 01:40:53,960
Speaker 2: insurance companies, not going to hospitals, but going back to

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01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:56,000
Speaker 2: the people. This is the idea that somehow this is

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01:40:56,040 --> 01:41:00,160
Speaker 2: going to lower the costs. I haven't seen where the

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01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:03,920
Speaker 2: great sell job on this has taken place and how

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01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:08,599
Speaker 2: Republicans are supposed to fight the Democrats response of you're

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01:41:08,640 --> 01:41:13,479
Speaker 2: taking away people's healthcare. So it anything that is market

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01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:18,280
Speaker 2: solution by ninety nine percent favor right, I got to

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01:41:18,280 --> 01:41:20,000
Speaker 2: hear particulars. That's the thing that keeps me from one

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01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:23,800
Speaker 2: hundred percent. But they haven't sold it. All I did

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01:41:23,920 --> 01:41:25,840
Speaker 2: is say it's going to lower costs in a very

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01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:29,040
Speaker 2: well mightd but they never sold it and never explained it.

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Speaker 2: How do you expect this to win? Well?

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Speaker 4: Exactly no, no, no, I completely agree with you on this.

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Speaker 4: They have never come back in full throated favor of

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01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:45,040
Speaker 4: a market based plan to eliminate the third party payer issue,

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01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:48,559
Speaker 4: to go back to a reform that where the healthcare

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01:41:48,680 --> 01:41:52,360
Speaker 4: market resembles other parts of the healthcare market that actually

1604
01:41:52,400 --> 01:41:57,600
Speaker 4: work properly, like you know, elective plastic surgery LASIK, that

1605
01:41:57,640 --> 01:42:00,960
Speaker 4: type of thing, where insurance companies aren't involved, which prompts

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01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:05,120
Speaker 4: a lot more providers to enter into the market, It

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01:42:05,200 --> 01:42:11,639
Speaker 4: reduces the overhead costs, it creates a competition among providers. Instead,

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01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:15,679
Speaker 4: they're just trying to tweak around the insurance company model,

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01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:20,080
Speaker 4: the comprehensive insurance model, which is part of what the

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01:42:20,120 --> 01:42:23,640
Speaker 4: problem was and which Obamacare actually amplifies rather than reforms.

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01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:29,599
Speaker 4: And the problem with that is John McCain actually tried

1612
01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:32,559
Speaker 4: to argue this in two thousand and nine, twenty ten.

1613
01:42:32,720 --> 01:42:35,759
Speaker 4: He offered a different He offered a market based plan,

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01:42:36,439 --> 01:42:41,120
Speaker 4: and the Democrats, demagogue did into you know, into oblivion.

1615
01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:44,920
Speaker 4: Of course, they had you know, firm control over Congress

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01:42:44,920 --> 01:42:46,600
Speaker 4: at that time, large majorities of both the House and

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01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:49,280
Speaker 4: the Senate. They were able to basically dictate things anyway,

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01:42:49,439 --> 01:42:51,200
Speaker 4: but at least they put it out there at that time.

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01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:55,040
Speaker 4: They've never come back to that, and this is that

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01:42:55,160 --> 01:42:58,240
Speaker 4: is the actual solution for this. It's the it's you know,

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01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:04,000
Speaker 4: health saving his account, catastrophic coverage or hospitalization coverage. Hooppe,

1622
01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:06,519
Speaker 4: you want to frame that and everything else is you know,

1623
01:43:06,640 --> 01:43:11,320
Speaker 4: cash payment through your through expanded health savings accounts and

1624
01:43:11,960 --> 01:43:15,240
Speaker 4: prices will drop, providers will enter the market, You will

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01:43:15,280 --> 01:43:20,360
Speaker 4: get better results, and you will eliminate third parties from

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01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:23,040
Speaker 4: making medical decisions that really should be between doctors and

1627
01:43:23,120 --> 01:43:26,840
Speaker 4: patients and Ed, nobody wants to stand up for that.

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01:43:27,200 --> 01:43:31,519
Speaker 2: Insurance should be for cancer and car accidents and everything

1629
01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:34,040
Speaker 2: else should be handled like the way you handle your mechanic.

1630
01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:37,600
Speaker 2: You need new brakes, you pay for new breaks exactly, absolutectly.

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01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:40,600
Speaker 2: Ed Morrissey, hotair dot com. I appreciate it taking the

1632
01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:42,719
Speaker 2: time to be with us. More coming up on Tony

1633
01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:46,559
Speaker 2: Kats and this is Tony Katz today. One cannot have

1634
01:43:47,080 --> 01:43:51,440
Speaker 2: a holiday season without a little bit of rand Paul

1635
01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:54,080
Speaker 2: talking about Festivus.

1636
01:43:54,960 --> 01:43:58,520
Speaker 1: You're coming out with the Festivus Report on government wastes.

1637
01:43:58,240 --> 01:44:00,879
Speaker 2: And for Volay. I guess you coot. That's on December

1638
01:44:00,920 --> 01:44:03,320
Speaker 2: twenty third, you release it. Can you give us any

1639
01:44:03,400 --> 01:44:04,360
Speaker 2: kind of preview? Now?

1640
01:44:05,439 --> 01:44:06,519
Speaker 4: Well, you know we celebrate.

1641
01:44:06,600 --> 01:44:09,880
Speaker 2: Festivus is where you air your grievances. I've got a

1642
01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:10,760
Speaker 2: lot of problem with.

1643
01:44:10,720 --> 01:44:13,960
Speaker 17: These big spenders up here, and so we point out

1644
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:17,920
Speaker 17: some of the craziness. Two million dollars spent on teaching

1645
01:44:17,960 --> 01:44:21,120
Speaker 17: people to eat bugs, a million dollars.

1646
01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:23,080
Speaker 2: Teaching Ferris to binge drink.

1647
01:44:22,920 --> 01:44:27,360
Speaker 17: Alcohol a quarter of a million, and spent on teaching

1648
01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:29,720
Speaker 17: Pakistani kids about climate change.

1649
01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:33,240
Speaker 2: He's not wrong, Tony Kats. Tony Kats today, Good to

1650
01:44:33,240 --> 01:44:36,880
Speaker 2: be with you, Good to be here. I think he

1651
01:44:36,960 --> 01:44:40,400
Speaker 2: votes known too many things. I have disagreements with Senator Paul,

1652
01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:44,080
Speaker 2: but I don't have a disagreement here about the insanity

1653
01:44:44,120 --> 01:44:46,280
Speaker 2: of spending and what is it that we're after, What

1654
01:44:46,360 --> 01:44:47,760
Speaker 2: is it that we're all about, What is it that

1655
01:44:47,800 --> 01:44:50,400
Speaker 2: we want? What is normal? And how do these things

1656
01:44:50,439 --> 01:44:54,919
Speaker 2: find their way in? How does anybody defend these things?

1657
01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:59,000
Speaker 2: So he's there with Stuve Varney, Oh, and he's going

1658
01:44:59,000 --> 01:44:59,759
Speaker 2: on with his list.

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01:45:00,280 --> 01:45:03,160
Speaker 17: I mean the ridiculousness of these things that on the

1660
01:45:03,200 --> 01:45:05,519
Speaker 17: face value of it, people would say, I got a

1661
01:45:05,560 --> 01:45:09,040
Speaker 17: lot of problems with that. Most Americans would say, why, why?

1662
01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:11,240
Speaker 17: Why are we still doing this? A lot of it

1663
01:45:11,240 --> 01:45:14,080
Speaker 17: comes to the National Science Foundation. I think you could

1664
01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:18,240
Speaker 17: eliminate the National Science Foundation and you would know no

1665
01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:21,960
Speaker 17: detriment to that. We spend billions through the ANIH. There's

1666
01:45:22,000 --> 01:45:24,720
Speaker 17: no real reason to have the National Science Foundation. And

1667
01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:30,200
Speaker 17: most of the really crazy dumb you know, having fish

1668
01:45:30,280 --> 01:45:33,479
Speaker 17: drink gin and tequila and ask which makes them more

1669
01:45:33,479 --> 01:45:37,240
Speaker 17: aggressive in gin or tequila? I mean, everybody knows it's

1670
01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:39,920
Speaker 17: got to be Tequila's crazy.

1671
01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:42,360
Speaker 2: I knew you were going to say that, but I don't.

1672
01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:44,920
Speaker 17: But I don't think that we really, you know, need

1673
01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:48,120
Speaker 17: those kind of studies. Most of them are crazy behavioral studies,

1674
01:45:48,479 --> 01:45:51,479
Speaker 17: you know, Japanese quail on cocaine. I mean, they're just

1675
01:45:51,800 --> 01:45:55,200
Speaker 17: dumb stuff that the average ordinary America would go stop.

1676
01:45:56,040 --> 01:45:59,559
Speaker 2: I understood about whether it was the gin or the

1677
01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:03,960
Speaker 2: tequila for the fish, right, and I would say it's

1678
01:46:03,960 --> 01:46:06,040
Speaker 2: the gin. I don't think that rand Paul has thought

1679
01:46:06,040 --> 01:46:10,280
Speaker 2: this true. But did he just say quail on cocaine?

1680
01:46:10,720 --> 01:46:12,559
Speaker 2: I mean, did that just get said?

1681
01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:16,200
Speaker 17: Most of them are crazy behavioral studies, you know, Japanese

1682
01:46:16,280 --> 01:46:17,440
Speaker 17: quail on cocaine.

1683
01:46:17,800 --> 01:46:20,840
Speaker 2: I mean, there's just some dumb stuff that I'm pretty

1684
01:46:20,840 --> 01:46:24,439
Speaker 2: sure Japanese quail on cocaine is a new cartoon series

1685
01:46:24,439 --> 01:46:28,840
Speaker 2: written by Quentin Tarantino, prove to me that it's not

1686
01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:37,519
Speaker 2: I'm waiting. I am waiting. Holy cow. As I said,

1687
01:46:37,600 --> 01:46:41,759
Speaker 2: Rand Paul an't necessarily wrong. Find everything at Tony Katz

1688
01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:44,280
Speaker 2: dot com tomorrow. Everyone. Take care

1689
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Speaker 4: In the