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Speaker 1: Eddie, you enjoy Kitcat candy bars? By chance?

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Speaker 2: Are you left or right?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: That's TwixT? Sorry, Yeah, I enjoy Kitcat.

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Speaker 1: So KitKat candy bars are the exact reason why I

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Speaker 1: could potentially be a candidate right now for the Indianapolis Colts.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I know people say, like, you know, I

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Speaker 1: like listening to Jake's show, but he makes it all

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Speaker 1: about himself. Well, you know, listen, I've got to make

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Speaker 1: things relatable here right in ways in which I can

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Speaker 1: relate to circumstance and situation. And I've told this story

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Speaker 1: probably more times than I need to tell it. But

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Speaker 1: I've been on the radio for a long time and

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Speaker 1: that's a lot of hours and a lot of days.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if most people have heard this story.

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Speaker 1: I don't have to give the full version, but the

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Speaker 1: shortened version would be this. In the winter of nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety eight, the Super Bowl where the Broncos beat the Packers.

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Speaker 1: Was that can you look up? Was that January of

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Speaker 1: ninety nine or January of ninety eight? I always get

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Speaker 1: confused by this. I believe it would have been January

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Speaker 1: of ninety nine, guestimate, Okay, January. I believe of two

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Speaker 1: thousand was the Rams Titans. So John Elway's second Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl for the Broncos I believe was January of ninety nine,

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Speaker 1: season of ninety eight. Is that right?

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Speaker 1: Okay, we'll try this again. Can you look that up

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Speaker 1: whether or not that was the second Super Bowl for

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Speaker 1: ninety nine, January of ninety nine, so the ninety eight season,

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Speaker 1: so some twenty now, closing in on twenty seven years ago.

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Speaker 1: I was sitting at Hardwicke's Pipe and Tobacco, the greatest

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Speaker 1: job I've ever had, with all due respect to my

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Speaker 1: delicacy known as the KitKat. And I open up my

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Speaker 1: KitKat and I now, when you eat a KitKat, do

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Speaker 1: you do the individual bar breakof how do you do it?

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Speaker 1: Yes? So I'm eating my KitKat and I notice on

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Speaker 1: there it says kick the field goal for one million

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Speaker 1: And I'm like the kid with the golden ticket for

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Speaker 1: lo and behold. That was probably when I did that,

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Speaker 1: and lo and behold, right before the Pro Bowl, right

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Speaker 1: call from a marketing director of Hershey Foods and they

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Speaker 1: say Jake Querry of Indianapolis, Indiana. And I said speaking,

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Speaker 1: and they said, congratulations, you are one of the four

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Speaker 1: finalists for the million dollar field goal kicking competition. We

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Speaker 1: had sixty five mail bags of entrants. We randomly picked

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Speaker 1: way to Miami. You have one week to learn how

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Speaker 1: in two weeks or whatever it was and win one

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Speaker 1: situation the Indianapolis Colts are now in because Spencer Schrader,

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Speaker 1: today scouring the waiver wire just yet. But there are

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Speaker 1: Tyler Bass is their regular kicker, and he was on IR,

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Speaker 1: emergency long snapper. And that's a specialized, specialized skill set.

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Speaker 1: So You're better off going out and finding yourself another

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Speaker 1: that's where things stand now with the Colts, and we

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Speaker 1: now know the Colts at four and one still are

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Speaker 1: It's uncomfortable to say, but last night, at about eleven fifteen,

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Speaker 1: I thought of Eddie Garrison. Maybe I'm not alone in

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Speaker 1: because and I'm not saying you're wrong. Matter of fact,

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Speaker 1: little too extreme in your take. Okay. We have had

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Speaker 1: Matt Verderram joined us yesterday and Matt Verdiram made a

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Speaker 1: that Trevor Lawrence. That first year with Urban Meyer was

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Speaker 1: It just seemed to derail Trevor Lawrence. And he has

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Speaker 1: think was the all time passing leader in US high

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Speaker 1: it certainly helped that the kickoff went out of bounds

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Speaker 1: show poise. I'm curious your thoughts on his performance in

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Speaker 1: he ball out? You saw it? What way?

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Speaker 2: it was good to see, obviously if you're a Jaguars fan,

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Speaker 2: to see him have the ability to bring them down

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Speaker 2: off to Brian's to Thomas Chumer for bringing in because

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Speaker 2: he was right there, step for step with him, and

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Speaker 2: the ball literally just goes right over his fingertips. That

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Speaker 2: it's fourth and ten instead it's third and ten or

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Speaker 1: of the year. And that is every player is different,

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Speaker 1: I realize, but you have not one, but two big

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Jackson and James Wiseman, and they are both big

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Speaker 1: guys that their calling card pre injury was their quickness

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Speaker 1: curious to see if they've lost any of that because

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Speaker 1: Tyree's Halliburton is dynamic a player, as he is in

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Speaker 1: so many areas. The thing that separated Tyre's Halliburton from

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Speaker 1: so many of his peers at his position was his

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Speaker 1: burst and his water bug ability as a point guard

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Speaker 1: you wonder how much of that he could lose with

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Speaker 1: still have it in our mind of injury recovery in

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Speaker 1: the Gail Sayers era and it's like, well, let's see

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Speaker 1: if there's precedent now on between Jackson and as well

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Speaker 1: James Wiseman. Do they have the same level of quick

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Speaker 1: five with coming back from these injuries. And Haliburton yesterday

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Speaker 1: video of him shooting looks good, but that is a

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Speaker 1: obviously totally totally different chasm from playing in the National

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Speaker 1: Basketball Association. When we come back just a couple minutes row.

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Speaker 1: There is something that I've noticed about the Colts that

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Speaker 1: I wonder if it could have happened a year ago,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think it could have. And it's really

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Speaker 1: good news for you Colts fans. I'll explain next. Greetings

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Speaker 1: and salutations to you. My name is Jake Query. This

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Speaker 1: Garrison is the other voice you hear on this program.

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Speaker 1: He actually is the master of the music controls that afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Eddie is listed as the president of the company. Those

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Speaker 1: We have thirty nine No waymen, we're not at thirty yet.

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Speaker 1: Twenty nine female listeners. Right. There are a couple of

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Speaker 1: of the show, and in addition to that the morning

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Speaker 1: show that you're here with Jeff Rickard, James Boyd, Kevin Bowen,

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Speaker 1: will be filling in for Always welcome those texts as well.

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Speaker 1: Before the break, I had mentioned to you something that

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about when it comes to the colts

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Speaker 1: this year. I believe what we are seeing every year

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Speaker 1: at the end of the year, Eddie, teams have their banquets.

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Speaker 1: You played baseball at Decatur Central High School? Correct, yep?

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Speaker 1: Did you guys have a banquet at the end of

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Speaker 1: the year. Sure? Did give me a couple of the

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Speaker 1: awards that they might used to give during the.

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Speaker 2: Course of the banquet. A silver Slugger.

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Speaker 1: Glove. Okay, how about this? How about this not statistical awards,

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Speaker 1: but awards that, like the coaches would give as an

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Speaker 1: atta boy, you know, as voted on by the coaches,

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Speaker 1: a like an opinion award.

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Speaker 2: An opinion award.

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Speaker 1: Well, in other words, like the silver Slugger award goes

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Speaker 1: to the guy that has the highest per year, the

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Speaker 1: teammate of the year. Exactly that kind of a thing, right,

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Speaker 1: one of those awards that would be given out is

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Speaker 1: when they would say, and usually it would go to

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Speaker 1: that just kind of narrowly made the team and then

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Speaker 1: has a decent year. Most improved award, right the most

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Speaker 1: improved award. If we were doing the Colts end of

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Speaker 1: year banquet right now and they were giving out a

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Speaker 1: most improved award, I believe actually the winner of the

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Speaker 1: most Improved Award for the Colts. The obvious answer here

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Speaker 1: people are going to say, well, it's got to be

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. Well, yes, except that he wasn't here a

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Speaker 1: year ago, so he's the most improved based on what

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Speaker 1: we believed he could do coming in because of how

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Speaker 1: he played with the Giants. But I think the most

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Speaker 1: improved member of the Colts is Shane Steiken. Fascinating, and

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Speaker 1: I think what we have seen so far there have

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Speaker 1: been two things that illustrate Shane Steiken's improvement as a

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Speaker 1: head coach. Whenever you hire a head coach that is

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Speaker 1: in a first opportunity, regardless of whether you're talking Little

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Speaker 1: League or the NFL, any job in any walk of life,

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Speaker 1: if you're listening to my voice right now. And you

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Speaker 1: are working at an engineering company, you're at a law firm,

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Speaker 1: you're at a consulting firm, you're at an energy company.

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Speaker 1: There's always somebody that comes in and they say, oh,

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Speaker 1: we just hired Bill in accounting, and you're like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know Bill. I've never met Bill, but he's been

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Speaker 1: around forever. Buddy of mine used to work across the

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Speaker 1: He's helped Bill's known. I mean, he's Bill's got to

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Speaker 1: be five years from retirement. Bill comes in does things

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Speaker 1: a little unorthodox and you're like, yeah, but Bill can

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Speaker 1: get away with that because Bill's been around forever and

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Speaker 1: he's got a reputation. Everybody knows him. He's good at

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Speaker 1: what he does. He's good at what he does. And

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Speaker 1: then they're like, oh, and by the way, here's Brian.

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Speaker 1: Brian actually just graduated four years ago from State U

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Speaker 1: and he's been working as an intern across the street

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Speaker 1: and then he got a job as an assistant to Nancy.

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Speaker 1: And now he's okay, great, Brian has a little more

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Speaker 1: to prove. And you're a little more hesitant on Brian

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Speaker 1: than you are Bill, because Bill's a guy that's been

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Speaker 1: around Shane Steikin. When he came in as an NFL coach,

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Speaker 1: we knew he was a bright offensive mind, okay, But

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Speaker 1: one of the things that we were aware of when

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Speaker 1: he came in is that he was coming in and

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Speaker 1: was gonna be his rider or die Shane Steikin's career,

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Speaker 1: and the Colts were going to go as Anthony Richardson

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Speaker 1: and yes, Richardson got hurt, but I think that Shane

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Speaker 1: Steiken was doing and proceeding and acting in every way

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Speaker 1: that he needed to along the way to awaken Anthony

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Speaker 1: Richardson to get Anthony Richardson going, And then the helmet

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Speaker 1: tap happened. And even with that, when the helmet tap happened,

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Speaker 1: Shane Steiken, you know, came out and said, it just

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Speaker 1: needs to be a little bit more organizationally, it needs

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Speaker 1: to be more about the whole body of work. But

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Speaker 1: he didn't come out right out and say, look, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna have to sit and learn. He implied it, and

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Speaker 1: that's ultimately what they ended up doing. But the whole

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Speaker 1: time it was, well, I mean we like Anthony, we

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Speaker 1: really do. Anthony's Anthony's a good kid. You know, there

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Speaker 1: are bad kids that make there are good kids that

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Speaker 1: make bad decisions, and they're just bad kids. He's not

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Speaker 1: a bad kid. He's a good kid. He's just a

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Speaker 1: good kid that needs to learn make made a couple

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Speaker 1: of bad decisions. And then they go out, they get

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. He decides that he wants to go with

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, and he sends that message because and I

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Speaker 1: don't know that Shane Steikeen makes that same determination when

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Speaker 1: he first got the job. Shane Steiken is under the influence,

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Speaker 1: whether it was directly in his ear or by implication,

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Speaker 1: Shane Steiken is under the influence that those above him

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Speaker 1: want him to start Anthony Richardson right away. And so

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Speaker 1: Shane Steiken says, new on the job, I'm Brian, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that. But now Shane Steikin looks more

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Speaker 1: like a coach that is Bill. He's been around a

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Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah I'm not sitting here pretending he's Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 1: But he's in year three now, he's been through a

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Speaker 1: and what we're seeing now is twofold the maturation of

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Speaker 1: Shane Steikeen. The first being he is calling and he

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Speaker 1: is comfortable enough in the way he's calling games to

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Speaker 1: call games that most benefit the style and the composure

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Speaker 1: of Daniel Jones, and Shane Steiken is masterfully calling games

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Speaker 1: to bring out the skill set of Daniel Jones, and

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is allowing a skill set that is masterfully

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Speaker 1: allowing Shane Steiken to bring out different areas of his playbook.

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Speaker 1: But more importantly, when you look at the situation with

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Speaker 1: Adie Mitchell, Shane Steiken became Bill not Brian because Shane

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Speaker 1: Steikeen basically said, yeah, listen, this guy went out and

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Speaker 1: made some mistakes and we can't have that, and so yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna look at maybe going another way to send

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Speaker 1: him a message, and he made no bones about it,

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Speaker 1: and boom, Ashton Doolan goes in and I'll be curious

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Speaker 1: to see what happens now with Adi Mitchell in terms

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Speaker 1: of his rotation spot, because Ashton Dulan did nothing to

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Speaker 1: surrender that spot, and Adi Mitchell continue to do the

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Speaker 1: things that cost him that spot. But Shane Stikeen in

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Speaker 1: terms of the way he's calling the game, in terms

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Speaker 1: his ability to deliver message without any sort of perceived doubt.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that there was pushback before, but

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Speaker 1: it's very clear who's the one making those decisions. It's

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Speaker 1: very clear who the sheriff is. We are seeing right

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Speaker 1: now before our very eyes, the maturation of Shane Stiken

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Speaker 1: as a head coach. The bubble wrap is off, the

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Speaker 1: new car smell is gone, and Shane Stikeen now is

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Speaker 1: an established coach in the NFL where you're like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: about him. And I think it's I think that is

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Speaker 1: a real upshot for the Colts, a real upshot for

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Speaker 1: the Colts. As for the Pacers, I think they have

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Speaker 1: upshot too, I really do. There's I get it, no Haliburton,

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Speaker 1: no Turner. But tonight in Minnesota we may be seeing

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Speaker 1: the introduction to something that might need adjustment to our eyes,

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Speaker 1: but it could spell a real positive long term. I'll explain.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into that discuss, and Holder joins us top

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Speaker 1: of the hour speaking of Indiana and Oregon. Ryan Day

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Speaker 1: of number one Ohio state some very interesting things to

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Speaker 1: say about I you today kind of stuff that IU

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Speaker 1: fans are going to be like, why not Indiana? Why

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Speaker 1: not Indiana hoosiers going in? Taking an Oregon coming up?

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Speaker 1: And we'll let you know what you want to.

646
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Speaker 2: Get something about that? Did I did I see that? Correctly?

647
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Speaker 1: I did?

648
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 2: I take query on Twitter? Right?

649
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: That's correct. You got to scroll down a little bit.

650
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Speaker 1: I think I'll probably send back out. So why not

651
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Speaker 1: Indiana related comments? Okay, PACER's in action tonight, Now, Eddie,

652
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: I'm curious the Pacers taking on Minnesota tonight eight o'clock.

653
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 2: Right, do you go timberwolves or tea wolves or wolves.

654
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: Timberwolves? I would go timberwolves first, by t wolves, second,

655
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: wolves third?

656
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 3: Right?

657
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, is it is a timberwolf an actual breed

658
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: and or group of wolf or is that just something

659
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: that they kind of added in and made it up

660
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: and it sounds cool, you know what I mean?

661
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 2: It is a mammal species belonging to the Canadian family.

662
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 2: Is also known as a gray wolf. Or Eastern timberwolf,

663
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 2: but Canadian? Yes?

664
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Speaker 1: Now, hold on, So, so the Minnesota basketball team is

665
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: named after it, shouldn't that be shouldn't Toronto be the Timberwolves?

666
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 2: I don't know, Jake, I'm sure a lot of Canadians might. Actually,

667
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 2: I do know this, a lot of Canadians migrate too Minnesota, well, apparently,

668
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 2: including the wolves.

669
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Speaker 4: Yes.

670
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Speaker 1: So, so are there actual timberwolves in Minnesota or are

671
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: they just ripping off the Canadian folk?

672
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 2: Are there timber wolves in Minnesota? Yes, Minnesota is home

673
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 2: to one of the largest populations of the timberwolves in

674
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Speaker 2: the lower forty eight states.

675
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Speaker 1: They mostly live in the Minneapolis or Saint Paul's Side.

676
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 2: Primarily found in the Superior National Forest in other wilderness areas.

677
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Speaker 1: Okay, either way, did you say that what's the over under?

678
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: Did you look up for me the Vegas odds over under?

679
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: I'm going to say, and we have not looked at this.

680
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: I think we mentioned it earlier, so maybe that's stuck

681
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: in my head, but I'm going to say the over

682
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: under for the Pacers, according to the folks in Lost Wages,

683
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that they have it at forty and

684
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Speaker 1: a half. You would be incorrect thirty seven and a half?

685
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 1: You are correct? Is it at thirty seven and a half?

686
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 1: It is okay at plus odds on the over I'm

687
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: not going to tell people what to do with their

688
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: money because that would be irresponsible to me, and I

689
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: don't want necessarily like to be you know what I mean,

690
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: but I would be stunned. We are going to do this.

691
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: We're going to come in Eddie. We're gonna have a

692
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Speaker 1: party when the Pacers hit thirty eight wins. Okay, We're

693
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: going to come in here. We're gonna lead the show

694
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Speaker 1: with celebration by cooling the gang. I mean, I'll bring

695
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: in a Chicago's Pizza Fhoria. We are going to do

696
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 1: And here's what we're gonna do. The day after the

697
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: Pacers win their thirty eighth game. We are going to

698
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:09,439
Speaker 1: do a celebration Life is Good show, and we're gonna

699
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: have people call in, and they're gonna call in and

700
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: we're gonna do nothing for the entire three hours. You

701
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: mark my words. This entire season for the Pacers on

702
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: Quarry and Company is going to be about the march

703
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: to thirty eight. Because I've never been more certain about

704
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Speaker 1: anything in my life than the fact that they're gonna

705
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Speaker 1: win thirty eight games. Now, this is knock on wood.

706
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 1: This is barring any significant season ending injury. I mean,

707
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: if if Andrew Mhart and aaron Ni Smith both have

708
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,959
Speaker 1: to miss significant time to begin you know, we've seen

709
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 1: that in the past, and I get it, they don't

710
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: have the total amount of depth that we've seen in

711
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: years past because of the injuries to Halliburton and the

712
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 1: loss of time. But I've never been more sure about

713
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Speaker 1: anything in my life. And when they win thirty eight games,

714
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Speaker 1: we're going to do a day where we're going to

715
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,760
Speaker 1: lead the show with celebration. My cool in the gang.

716
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna sell I don't care if it's the day

717
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: after the Pacers win the or the Colts win the

718
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Well, okay, if that's the case, we'll probably

719
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: do it. But I'm telling you, we're going to do

720
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Speaker 1: a show where we celebrate. We're going to do a

721
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: celebratory show where we do nothing but and we should

722
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: do this anyway where people call in with what they're

723
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: happy about and what they're celebrating.

724
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Speaker 2: There's one book that has thirty seven and a half.

725
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 2: There's another book that has thirty eight and a half.

726
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: Thirty eight. Thirty eight is the number. We should do

727
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 1: this at some point today anyway, where people just call

728
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: in to say what they're celebrating. I'm celebrating the fact

729
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: that my fifteen year old daughter got an A in

730
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 1: chemistry and studied hard. Awesome. I'm studying the fact that

731
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 1: my mom went to the doctor and got good results

732
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: on the test that we were worried about. Great news.

733
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 1: There's so much that I'm celebrating the fact I get

734
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 1: to listen to Eddie every day. Three.

735
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 2: I celebrate the fact I get to listen Ody every

736
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 2: day from neon to three.

737
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Speaker 1: Okay, the there's so much negative stuff. We need to

738
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: just focus more on the positive. We need to be uplifting, right.

739
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 1: People Like somebody asked me, They're like, Jake, you totally

740
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: let me down on the way that you handled the

741
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez news because so many people were dropped the

742
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: ball on that. And I get it right, and I

743
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: appreciate and respect and it does mean something to me

744
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: that people would expect that I would have something to

745
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: say about that that was deep and meaningful. But I'm like,

746
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: there's two things people don't want to tune into this

747
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: show to hear about One is politics and the other

748
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 1: is people grasping on to some sort of relevance or attention.

749
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: Three Fantasy Football. Three Fantasy Football. Yes, although your team

750
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: had a huge week and my team Todd beat me,

751
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: and I think I'm worse in the league right now,

752
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: but I had not one, but two both of my

753
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: tight ends for crying allowed. We're Saturday healthy, scrattiny.

754
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 2: Nobody cares.

755
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: You're right, Nobody cares for the Pacers. Though I'm optimistic

756
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: this year. I am. I think they're going to be

757
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: better than people think. I am very curious about how

758
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,760
Speaker 1: Isaiah Jackson tonight in the first hour of the game.

759
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to look to see how Isaiah Jackson and

760
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: as well James Wiseman look. I mentioned it earlier. I

761
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: went to it there coming off the same injury that

762
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: Halliburton is going through right now. Different bodies, different people,

763
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: everything's different, I realize, But I think that we are

764
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,959
Speaker 1: under the assumption that the Achilles' injuries are twenty years ago,

765
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: and I think they are better today than they used

766
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: to be.

767
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 2: In dealing with I went to Fanjam on Sunday because

768
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 2: I was like hey, you know what you know, I

769
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:49,919
Speaker 2: don't get to see these guys off and up close.

770
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: Why not I'll go?

771
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 2: So I went, and Isaiah Jackson looked fine, look normal.

772
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 2: He took off like a step inside the three point

773
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,959
Speaker 2: line on a breakaway dunk and dunked Jeans. Wiseman looks fry,

774
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 2: he looks solid. I don't think they're playing any slower,

775
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 2: and in fact, I thought they looked like they're going

776
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 2: to try to play faster.

777
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: You know, in all honesty, especially if Jackson's Jackson or

778
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: Wiseman is on the floor, they can probably play faster

779
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: than they did with Turner.

780
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 2: And I would say that Isaiah Jackson right now is

781
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 2: looking like you're opening days starting.

782
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Speaker 3: See.

783
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: I have forever loved Isaiah Jackson, and I think he's uber.

784
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: He is literally the human pogo stick, right and he.

785
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 2: Was I thought Bennetting Matherin looked more comfortable within the

786
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 2: system of the offense in that there was more of

787
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 2: a willingness of trying to get the ball out quicker,

788
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 2: so it wasn't sticking as much.

789
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: The top end look good. How did Wiseman look fine?

790
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it's very hard to tell him that, right.

791
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 2: Ben Shephard is injured right now, so he didn't play,

792
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 2: so I don't think he's playing tonight either.

793
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: Thirty eight wins is his big ast slam dunk, as

794
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 1: it is if Isaiah Jackson is If Tyrese Haliburt is

795
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: running a break and Isaiah Jackson is flashing in for

796
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: the side when both are healthy, that is as much

797
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: a slam dunk as the Pacers winning thirty eight games.

798
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be naive. I'm not trying to

799
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,439
Speaker 1: be rose colored glasses here. I just I don't see

800
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: how they don't win thirty eight games.

801
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 2: Do you see them as a team that starts the

802
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 2: season fast or slow in they end the season strong?

803
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: Good question. I think, assuming they are healthy, I think

804
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: they're going to be fairly consistent. Not to cop out

805
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: on the answer, because we know who they are, right,

806
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think the main core of what

807
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: they have are guys that are used to playing with

808
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: one another, so it's not like a huge reacclamation in

809
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 1: terms of their roster. The only reason why I ask

810
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: this is obviously you're missing the Miles Turners defense, and

811
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: I think you're missing some of the voices out there

812
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: on the flo your most active. Yeah, that's true, and

813
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 1: so everyone's got to figure out who that is. But

814
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: that's different than learning, like, gosh, I'm not sure where

815
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: this guy cuts or where this guy likes the ball,

816
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 1: and that kind of thing. I think they're going to be.

817
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: I really do. I think the Pacers are going to

818
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 1: be this year. I'm just talking about in terms of

819
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: number of wins in competitive nature. I think they're gonna

820
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: be this year what Orlando was a year ago. Like

821
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Speaker 1: what was Orlando? The six seeds, seven seed get in

822
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: the first round of the playoffs, win maybe a game too.

823
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: I think that's who they are. Thirty eight wins, slam

824
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,919
Speaker 1: dunk absolute slam dunk for reference to Miami Heat won

825
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: thirty seven games a year ago. Yeah, they're gonna be

826
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: better than the Heat, right, Orlando was forty one and

827
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Speaker 1: forty one. There you go, strive to be the magic.

828
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:49,439
Speaker 1: Maybe Steven Holder next telling you out in the deads

829
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: there are gonna be some lost wages on people that

830
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: do not buy into the Pacers at over thirty eight,

831
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: biggest slam dunk of all time over thirty seven and

832
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: a half, Jacob thirty eight. I'm telling you they're gonna

833
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:09,720
Speaker 1: win over over over hiring injury. Knock on Wood joining

834
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Speaker 1: us now on the Java House Peel and Poor Guest line.

835
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Speaker 1: He is with ESPN dot Com and I would assume

836
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: has been busy today, not unlike you folks who have

837
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: a Kicker on buy in your fantasy league, scouring over

838
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: the waiver wires. And we'll begin with this Stephen Holder

839
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 1: with Spencer Schrader in the news that he is out

840
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: now for the year. I had not heard if there

841
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 1: is any development today, and that's why I'm teeing you

842
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: up for this, and that is the Colts in terms

843
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: of movement at Kicker and if anything has developed in

844
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Speaker 1: the last twenty four hours, so.

845
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Speaker 3: I think we're close. We actually just heard from Special

846
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 3: Teams coordinator Brian Mason and he says they have worked

847
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 3: out Kickers today. They are still deliberating on who they're

848
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 3: going to sign, which means they probably have but they

849
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 3: just aren't ready to announce it. But anyhow, he says

850
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 3: that that is you know, the decisions forthcoming there. And

851
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:11,399
Speaker 3: the other interesting little tidbit there is that he did

852
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 3: reveal that there is a possibility that punter Rigoberto Sanchez

853
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 3: could potentially do the kickoffs moving forward. You know, he

854
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 3: did that in Strader's absence on Sunday, And if you

855
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 3: recall before he tore his achilles tendon a couple of

856
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 3: years ago, he was regularly the kickoff specialist. They have

857
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 3: decided in the last couple of years to kind of

858
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 3: preserve him a little bit and not have as much

859
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 3: wear and tear on his leg, to not have him

860
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:47,280
Speaker 3: do the kickoffs, because that's more practice, that's more game snaps,

861
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 3: all of that. So they pulled back, but they're now

862
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 3: open to it again. And the interesting thing there, this

863
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 3: is more kicking information than people care about, perhaps, but

864
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 3: the interesting thing there, I think is that Rigoberto Sanchos

865
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 3: was a fantastic kickoff specialist, and his specialty, as far

866
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 3: as I recall, was placing the ball in the sort

867
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 3: of perfect locations as opposed to you know, having the

868
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 3: big leg. He would put the ball right in the corner.

869
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 3: He put it right on the freaking pylon. And I

870
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 3: think with the new kickoff format, he could be a

871
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 3: really interesting option. So anyway, that's where we're at right now.

872
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 1: Okay, I wanted to also ask yesterday I saw that

873
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: they worked out a cornerback in a safety and this

874
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: you know, this is a position Stephen obviously that has

875
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: been a need for the Colts since, you know, just

876
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: due to attrition. But it kind of is one of

877
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: those positions or areas of the field that you're always

878
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: looking for guys when we see things like, you know, hey,

879
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: Lewis Klein, the safety worked out with the Colts. When

880
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 1: we see reports like that, does that jump out at

881
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: us or is this actually something that is routine and

882
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: just seems to be out of the ordinary because of

883
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 1: the fact that they've had attrition at that position.

884
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 3: Well, it's all all of the above. The Colts do

885
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 3: do this a lot, and let's be flair about that.

886
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 3: They will take a look at a lot of guys

887
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 3: and that is something they do regularly. However, I think

888
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 3: the context here is Mike Hilton is banged up and

889
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 3: I am not entirely certain what his status is, but

890
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 3: you know, there is certainly an injury there, even if

891
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 3: he misses a week, right, I mean, that's that's an issue.

892
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 3: When we still don't have you any kind of update

893
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 3: on Kenny Moore, who, by the way, I did talk

894
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 3: to Kenny Moore recently. And what he told me is

895
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 3: like he says, the Achilles is going to be fine.

896
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 3: He says it was kind of inflamed and it needs

897
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 3: to kind of calm down, is what he said. And

898
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,439
Speaker 3: he said that takes a couple weeks. So he's missed

899
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 3: two games. We'll see if he's back to practice tomorrow.

900
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 3: That would alleviate a lot of their problems. But but

901
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 3: you certainly don't want to rush a guy who's you know,

902
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 3: dealing with achilles pain. Okay, Steven, as we as we

903
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 3: know well in these parts by the way.

904
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, no kidding, right, you know, goes to that saying,

905
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 1: you know, with I saw that ESPN dot com right now,

906
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 1: you know you've got it up their their power rankings.

907
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: I believe they now have Colts the fifth. You did

908
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: the right up for it, obviously, and the Colts are fifth,

909
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: I should say, in the power rankings. So I keep

910
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: going back to this, Steven and weighing back, and I

911
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: think you're on the same page with me here because

912
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: of just precedent and maybe just naturally being incredulous, I

913
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: think to myself, they're not really a top five team,

914
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: are they? And then I'm like, you know what, but

915
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: they are because you have to go with the current, right,

916
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: You've got to go with the now now, and you

917
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: look around and you're like, you know, nobody else is

918
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 1: stepping forward and the culture doing what good teams do.

919
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: They're not winning games, Steven, They're beating people handily that

920
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: they're supposed to beat handily, and therefore they look to

921
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: me very complete question I would have for you, Steven

922
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 1: Holder is what is it that holds them back at

923
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: this point? What is their achilles that has yet to

924
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: be exposed?

925
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 3: Well, it is the right question, but I would say

926
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 3: before before going on to the specific answer, I think

927
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 3: this is a very interesting season in the NFL. I mean,

928
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 3: we are five weeks in. If I'm not mistaken, no

929
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 3: one's undefeated, and so I mean, what are we even

930
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 3: talking about? Who's even good? Who are the quote unquote

931
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 3: elite teams? The Buffalo Bills sure looks beatable the other night,

932
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 3: the Kansas City Chiefs are sitting here trying to figure out,

933
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 3: well can they make the playoffs? The Eagles have some issues,

934
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 3: like a few issues they have to deal with, you know,

935
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 3: and they're the holders of the trophy right now. So

936
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 3: the timing of this for the Colts might be amazing,

937
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 3: Like for them to have gotten their act together, it

938
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 3: took them a hell of a long time. But the

939
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 3: fact that this is the year they decided to get

940
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 3: their act together is kind of interesting, at least through

941
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 3: five weeks, because we were here. We were sitting here

942
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 3: thinking of the AFC as this murderers row and it

943
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 3: could be you know eventually, but right now, who are

944
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 3: you even scared of? Like, who's the team that you

945
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,720
Speaker 3: would say, well, don't want to play those guys, Stephen?

946
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: Is it is it too early to put a fork

947
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: in the ravens?

948
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,720
Speaker 3: Man? It's hard to come back from what they're dealing

949
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,720
Speaker 3: with right now. Man, it just really is. I think

950
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 3: I'm starting to think it's not too early. I don't

951
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:55,439
Speaker 3: know that it is, because here's the thing. There are problems. Look,

952
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson's going to come back, Okay, great, But how

953
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 3: has that helped their defense which is a complete disaster.

954
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 3: And I don't know that. I don't know that they

955
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 3: have enough. I don't know. I mean, I'm telling you,

956
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 3: the day out of that hole is going to be

957
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 3: really tough. So I will get briefly to what you

958
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 3: asked me initially, because I should answer your question, you know,

959
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 3: what's going to hold them back?

960
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 4: The Colts.

961
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I think injuries always right, but I think

962
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 3: going beyond that, I think the secondary has to hold up.

963
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 3: You know, because if you start hitting these tougher quarterbacks

964
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 3: later in the season, which they will do, they're going

965
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 3: to be susceptible to big plays. So they have to

966
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:45,240
Speaker 3: be able to hold up because right now they're playing

967
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 3: with big leads in many cases. So there have been

968
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 3: some there have been some misques that have kind of

969
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 3: gone under the radar because you know, when you're up

970
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 3: three touchdowns, what difference does it make? But you're not

971
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 3: going to have that every week. I mean, that's a

972
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 3: that's a you know that, that's that's a that's not

973
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,439
Speaker 3: a reality of the NFL. You know that you win

974
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 3: by three touchdowns or four touchdowns every week. And so

975
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 3: I think the Rams game is a great example of that.

976
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 3: But that's one thing, right that the defense giving up

977
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 3: thik place, and that is you know, that is rare

978
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:22,760
Speaker 3: to tell a few times. I also think that uh,

979
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 3: the you know, the defensive line just got to continue

980
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 3: to intensive by the pass rush as those quarterbacks get

981
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 3: tougher on the back half of the season as well.

982
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: By the way, Eddie, when it comes to the National

983
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: Football League, we have breaking news, is that correct?

984
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 2: A divisional trade in the AFC West the Cincinnati Bengals

985
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 2: or AFC North. The Cincinnati Bengals are acquiring Joe Flacco

986
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:55,240
Speaker 2: from the Cleveland Browns.

987
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: Hmmm, interesting, Steven, your thoughts on that?

988
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 3: Oh, that is super interesting. I'm not sure how much

989
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 3: it helps.

990
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: But it kind of like the Washington Wizards trading for

991
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 1: Gilbert Arenas, doesn't it right?

992
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 3: I mean, hey, I guess if you're the Bengals right now,

993
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 3: you'll try anything, right. They were clearly done with with

994
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 3: their current situation. Yeah, exactly. I think they they had

995
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 3: reached a point where they thought they needed to do something.

996
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I saw a reporter earlier where Zach Taylor

997
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 3: said he's going to retain the play calling duties. I mean,

998
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 3: when when you're at that point, they're bad, right, when

999
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 3: you're starting to ask the coach, wait, you're gonna keep playing?

1000
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 3: You're gonna keep calling plays? Really? What that means You're

1001
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 3: having a bad week for a bad month, so you know,

1002
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 3: desperate times, that's desperate measures, I guess. But I don't

1003
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 3: think slackos the answer. He's being honest with you. I mean,

1004
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 3: love the guy.

1005
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: But we'll see, Steven. Somebody asked me this before we

1006
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 1: let you go. I wanted to ask this because it's

1007
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 1: a good question and it's one that perhaps I'm premature

1008
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: with it, but it's going to be a topic. And

1009
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 1: that is because Daniel Jones was signed to a one

1010
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,720
Speaker 1: year contract with the Colts. Is he in the same

1011
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 1: category as a veteran player where he can get a

1012
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: contract extension before going into free agency? Or is the

1013
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 1: one year veteran deal that he signed one that in

1014
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 1: order for the Colts to retain him they will have

1015
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: to make a wager for him in free agency like

1016
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:40,479
Speaker 1: anyone else at the end of the year.

1017
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:47,720
Speaker 3: So I actually I looked this up or actually tapped

1018
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 3: into a source of mind to clarify this, because this

1019
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 3: hask come up on this show and I and maybe

1020
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 3: even another one lately, and I wanted to make sure

1021
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 3: I was one hundred percent right. So it's the complicated answer,

1022
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 3: but here's here's the simplest way to think about it.

1023
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 3: They could, in theory, resign Daniel Jones to an or

1024
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 3: extend I should say extend Daniel Jones right now. They

1025
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 3: could do it five minutes from now if they want. Technically, however,

1026
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 3: there are some there are some mentalities that make that tough.

1027
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 3: So for example, the player's cap number, So his current

1028
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 3: cap number which is like fourteen points something million dollars,

1029
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 3: that cannot increase after executing the new contract. So how

1030
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 3: would you do this? How would you sign this this

1031
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 3: player to a very expensive contract extension without increasing the

1032
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 3: current cap number. The only way to do that would

1033
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 3: it would be to give him no money up front.

1034
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 3: And frankly, if you're if you are, if you're a

1035
00:57:56,680 --> 00:58:00,040
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones, there's no incentive for you to sign a

1036
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 3: contract with know signing bonus right if you're having a

1037
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 3: great season. So, and this isn't going to happen now.

1038
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 3: I think this conversation is more a matter of like

1039
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 3: January February, right, They're not going to do this now.

1040
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 3: They have plenty of time. They have his rights until

1041
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 3: early March, so there's no need to even go there

1042
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 3: while you know the meal is still being cooked, if

1043
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 3: you will. But but I do think this will become

1044
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 3: a conversation for us, you know, as we get to

1045
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 3: maybe like the NFL combine around that time, and the

1046
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 3: idea of him hitting free agency starts to come up.

1047
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 3: You have to start thinking about this. So the other

1048
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 3: thing to mention here, the Colts have the secret weapon.

1049
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 3: They have the franchise tag. And I think you would

1050
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 3: be one thousand percent willing to franchise tag him if

1051
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 3: he keeps playing well because at worst you're getting the

1052
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 3: market rate for a guy of that production. Right, the

1053
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 3: franchise tag is it's a lot of money, but you know,

1054
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 3: in a one year situation when you have no quarterback,

1055
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 3: it's worth it, right, So I think there they'll be fine,

1056
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 3: and they will if they so choose, they will be

1057
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 3: able to retain Daniel Jones. I don't think it'll be

1058
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 3: a big deal.

1059
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 1: Okay, last question, Steven on your way out here, and

1060
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: that is over the course of today, we are looking

1061
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: at or anticipating the possibility of announcements from the cults

1062
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: of signing players in what position, Well.

1063
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 3: Kicker for sure, potentially secondary depending on the status of

1064
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 3: Mike Hilton, and you know, we'll see how close Kenny

1065
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 3: Moore is. But that's a factor there as well. So

1066
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 3: particularly that slot corner, because right now you're kind of

1067
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 3: down to Makai Beckman, who black excuse me, who apparently

1068
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 3: can't stay on a seat. For the love of God,

1069
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 3: you know what I'm talking about.

1070
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what. Got a lot of reps,

1071
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Speaker 1: got a lot of raps last Sunday, no question you did.

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00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: But earned his paycheck and a.

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Speaker 3: Great pick on it in his on his part too.

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01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 3: But a great interception should a scored. But you know

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Speaker 3: we're not picking.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of speaking, a great pick and picky Trevor Lawrence

1077
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: caught with both of them last night before a game

1078
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Speaker 1: winning drive. Just so you know, if you're watching that game, you.

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Speaker 4: Know you know.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 1: That's right, all right, Steven, appreciate it.

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01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 3: More more information than you needed.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly correct. Yes, Steven Holder joining us from ESPN

1084
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: dot Com. Interesting news there about Joe Flacco because Flacco

1085
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 1: obviously you know that for Cincinnati, basically what that is is, Look,

1086
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: we just need somebody to hold serve for us. They've

1087
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: got weapons. I mean, if Jake Browning. I watched a

1088
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: little of that Detroit Cincinnati game on Sunday, and Browning,

1089
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: who's a guy that I thought was certainly capable of

1090
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 1: a kind of big arm stuff because he did it

1091
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 1: last year in stretches and Eddie. There were two plays,

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01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 1: two drives where he at one point he threw up

1093
01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 1: an interception and I mean it was like eight yard

1094
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 1: shy of where it needed to be. It was just like,

1095
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 1: what in the world is he doing?

1096
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, no idea, Jake.

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01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: And then I think it was overturned, and he threw

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01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: another one. No, that one was not overturn. He ended

1099
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: up throwing three.

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Speaker 2: But there were times I was watching that game too,

1101
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 2: It's like, dude, you're not looking in the right spot totally.

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01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 1: I mean he looked completely out to lunch right. Oh yeah.

1103
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 1: With that offense and those players, then you would think

1104
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: that just simply competency. I think there are a lot

1105
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 1: of people that are like, why not Jameis Winston and

1106
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 1: I get it, right. I mean my guess is that

1107
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: the familiarity within the division of Joe Flacco that's possible

1108
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: probably weighs a little bit into that, and you kind

1109
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: of know what you're getting there, right. I mean, not

1110
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: that you don't with Winston, but you know.

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01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 2: I mean with Winston, you know you could get three

1112
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 2: hundred yards five touchdowns, and you could also get three picks.

1113
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 1: Hey, Jake, two seventy is the text line number, also

1114
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 1: the phone number. Now, I told you that, and I

1115
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 1: can't remember the name of the gentleman that called me

1116
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: yesterday on my cell phone that said that he's banned,

1117
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 1: said he's been banned from the station. I said, we'll

1118
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 1: call in tomorrow. I'm happy to have you on. I've

1119
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 1: never been given any name. Seemed like a nice guy.

1120
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 1: Said he's called in today and nobody answered. Let me

1121
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 1: read you the exact message that he sent to me.

1122
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 1: This seems aggressive. Hey, mister Query, I told you they

1123
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 1: banned me, and you said to go ahead and call

1124
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 1: in the show. Well, I've called in today over and

1125
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 1: over and no one has answered. And I'm going to

1126
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 1: put it in PG version here to heck with you

1127
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 1: and to everyone else, to heck with every one of you. Okay,

1128
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 1: I'm just how do I always end up being like

1129
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: the fall guy here when I'm like, I'm just the middleman.

1130
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 1: You know, I'm a nice guy. Hey, Jake, we're talking

1131
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 1: about Shane Styke and this from Josh and Fountain City.

1132
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 1: Do you think the growth that we've seen in stich

1133
01:02:56,040 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 1: in this year perhaps could be because of no more

1134
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 1: do you have an owner inserting himself on the coach

1135
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: or the general manager and thus changing building philosophy. I

1136
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 1: do think it's an unfair and uncomfortable thing to say,

1137
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 1: and I don't know whether or not Jim or Say

1138
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 1: was guilty of overstepping. I think there were times. I

1139
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 1: think certainly the Sam Ellinger situation, and that was not

1140
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 1: in the Shane Stiken era. But do perhaps the head

1141
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: coach and the general manager feel like they have more

1142
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 1: they that they have more freedom and less scrutiny in

1143
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 1: terms of just fewer people to run things past. Possibly,

1144
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 1: I don't think that can be ruled out Jake. Everybody

1145
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 1: forgets that Shane almost made the playoffs with Gardner Minshew.

1146
01:03:53,400 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 1: That from Gary Jake, it feels like to AFC is

1147
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 1: setting up to be a conference where the six or

1148
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 1: seven seed gets on a run at the end of

1149
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 1: the year and then makes the Super Bowl. That's a

1150
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 1: good point, like Lamar Jackson gets back, Baltimore makes a run,

1151
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 1: or say the Steelers, Browns and Bengals already are seemed

1152
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 1: to be better in that division. The Chiefs are going

1153
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 1: to be fully healthy and have Rashid Rice back in

1154
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 1: Week seven. All good points, right, no question, all good points.

1155
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 1: You know. I just think every year you get the

1156
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 1: team as we talked about that midway through October into

1157
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 1: early November, you're like, are they good? And I think

1158
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 1: we're already there this year. And whoever would have guessed

1159
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 1: it was the Colt SETI I mean we each made

1160
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 1: our prediction, we each made our guests as to who

1161
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 1: it was going to be. I said, I thought it'd

1162
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 1: be the Raiders. They're terrible. Matt Verderram accurately said the

1163
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 1: team that was going to be the mister Fire would

1164
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 1: be the Dolphins. They've they've turned it around a little bit,

1165
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 1: but they I mean they're going nowhere. Uh to be

1166
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: honest with you, Eddie, right now. And this does change,

1167
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 1: it fluctuates over the course of the year. But the

1168
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 1: team where the wheels have come off, you want to

1169
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 1: say who that is right now? The team right now

1170
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 1: where the wheels have come off. At the beginning of

1171
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 1: the year, we said there's always some team that midway

1172
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 1: through the year, you're like, what happened to them? And

1173
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 1: I think we know now who it is.

1174
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 2: I think we do as well. AFC or Nfcuh AFC.

1175
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 1: Correct. Let me ask you this nine and a half

1176
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 1: hour drive from here, ten hour drive from here. No, okay?

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01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 1: Is it a team with a Major League Baseball town? Yes,

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01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 1: an American League or National League team, National League. See

1179
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 1: you and I are going to disagree. You're going to

1180
01:05:53,760 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 1: say the Bengals. No, okay, this is let me. This

1181
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 1: is a team that you expected to be better. Is

1182
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 1: that what you're saying?

1183
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 4: Uh?

1184
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 2: Better than what they currently are.

1185
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 1: Your prediction for this particular team I believe was going

1186
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 1: to be Pittsburgh.

1187
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 2: Correct initially going into the season. Yes, and it is

1188
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 2: not Pittsburgh.

1189
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 1: It's not Pittsburgh. You're gonna say it is Houston. It

1190
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 1: is not Houston. Okay, go ahead and hit me Miami. Yeah, yeah,

1191
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:28,479
Speaker 1: that's what I said. I mean with Miami's the one

1192
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 1: that that you know. Verda Am said that as well.

1193
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 1: I think at this point the team you would say

1194
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 1: is Baltimore. It's not entirely their fault, but Baltimore. I mean,

1195
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 1: they may be done.

1196
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 2: They might not say to win the conference.

1197
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 1: Here's the thing I don't disagree with that. I think

1198
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 1: from a talent standpoint and experience standpoint, a game changer

1199
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 1: standpoint you have to take Baltimore seriously, and you look

1200
01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 1: at their upcoming states that they are starting to me

1201
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 1: directly get into a situation where precedent says, it's a

1202
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 1: really big hole to come out of. Look at their

1203
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 1: upcoming schedule. So they have Los Angeles at home this week,

1204
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 1: then they have as Rams, Okay, then they have Chicago, Miami, Minnesota, Cleveland,

1205
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 1: the Jets, the Bengals, the Steelers, the Bengals, the Patriots,

1206
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 1: the Packers, the Steelers. It's pretty doable, very doable, especially

1207
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 1: when you look at where things are at within that division.

1208
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 1: Right now, You've got Cincinnati. Are they gonna be able

1209
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 1: to hang in there now with Joe Flacco until Joe

1210
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 1: Burrow can come back. Cleveland's a disaster, right, Cleveland's a disaster.

1211
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 1: It's Pittsburgh for real at three and one. Do we

1212
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 1: know doesn't Pittsburgh do this to you every year? Every year?

1213
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 1: Aren't you like Pittsburgh? Okay, they're gonna be okay, nine

1214
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 1: and eight, maybe ten and seven.

1215
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 2: Steelers have a pretty daunting schedule coming up relatively quickly. Packers, Colts, Chargers.

1216
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 2: Half of the AFC North plays in the same state.

1217
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 2: That state is half of the AFC North plays in

1218
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 2: the same state. Yes, and that state is it's not Ohio?

1219
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 1: Yes? Right, half of the AFC North plays in the

1220
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 1: same state. Correct.

1221
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 2: There are four teams. Yeah, some reason I was thinking

1222
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 2: there's five. I don't know why. So I was thinking

1223
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 2: of Major League.

1224
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 1: Baseball oh Hio, Ohio and their college coach Ryan Day

1225
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 1: said something very interesting about Indiana, which I'll explain next.

1226
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 1: You know, it's raining, but the leaves haven't started falling, really, right,

1227
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 1: they have not they.

1228
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 2: Have We didn't started changing colors yet.

1229
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy? So therefore, and we have not yet gotten,

1230
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 1: not yet gotten, excuse me, received, thank you. We have

1231
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 1: not received the annual mom querry PSA. It's probably a

1232
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 1: matter of time. I never ask for it. It just

1233
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 1: it's it's like the cherub On Monument Circle, the downtown

1234
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 1: cherub No one asks for it. It just appears nobody else.

1235
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,720
Speaker 2: It's like your bad analogies. Nobody asks for them, but

1236
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:19,639
Speaker 2: they still keep coming.

1237
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 1: People love those kids. In particular. Yesterday, I was at

1238
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 1: the safeway of the fifty six and old and I

1239
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 1: walked in. Little kid comes up immediately, he said, that's

1240
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 1: the first thing he said to me, I love you analogies,

1241
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 1: I said, well, thank you, little youngster, a bit of

1242
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 1: a speech impediment. Nice kid like my analogies.

1243
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:40,640
Speaker 2: Well, he brought up your analogies over the get to

1244
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 2: know your listener.

1245
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 1: Yes, well, and here's the thing, get to know your listener.

1246
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 1: It's only we've done market research on that and had

1247
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 1: meetings about it, and they tell us that kids love it.

1248
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:50,640
Speaker 1: But in terms of my analogies, I know for a

1249
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 1: fact kids actually do love it. They go crazy over it.

1250
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 1: Ryan Day is the head football coach of the Ohio

1251
01:09:58,320 --> 01:09:59,520
Speaker 1: State Buckeyes.

1252
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:04,679
Speaker 2: Using his just for men again, didn't his.

1253
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 1: Wife Didn't his wife come out and say that he's

1254
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 1: not using that on Like the biggest telltale sign that

1255
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 1: you're using some sort of grease and formula in your

1256
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 1: beard is not necessarily when it drips down into your

1257
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 1: shirt after a sweaty game, but when your wife is

1258
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 1: getting on and saying, by the way, unsolicited, she says this,

1259
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 1: by the way, he is not putting any formula his beard.

1260
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 1: While that right there, You know, all I have to

1261
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:31,719
Speaker 1: say to you, folks is this, if you are worried

1262
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 1: about okay, if you're worried about your hair going gray. Like, guys, guys,

1263
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 1: if you're worried about going gray, easiest thing to do

1264
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 1: just just keep it real close on the sides. If

1265
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 1: you keep it close on the sides, you can't like

1266
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 1: like this bad boy right here, what you're looking at

1267
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 1: right here, Eddie silver fox Right, But I just go

1268
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 1: in one one and a half guard, good to go.

1269
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 2: Now, what about the top the back?

1270
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 1: Well, I don't have the bis quick right, I mean,

1271
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 1: I'm not going with like the mullet totally where it's like,

1272
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 1: you know, party in the front business and the back

1273
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 1: type deal. But I'm fortunate that to this point you

1274
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 1: can see my hair. What percentage of the this part

1275
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 1: are we seeing silver shining through?

1276
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 2: I'm mean a lot more or less on your sides.

1277
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 1: It's getting there though, Oh yeah, I mean it's definitely

1278
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:27,639
Speaker 1: getting there. Like the sides are basically if we're talking snow,

1279
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 1: the sides are essentially at this point the Arctic circle.

1280
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:36,839
Speaker 1: The top a little more like northern Indiana late November.

1281
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Speaker 1: Ryan Day, though, is the head coach of number one

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01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 1: Ohio state. They have upcoming Illinois. Okay, Illinois, that's right.

1283
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 1: He was asked about trying to learn about Illinois based

1284
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 1: on their game with Indiana. Quote pitch the game, throw

1285
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 1: it out. He later going on to comparing it to

1286
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:06,720
Speaker 1: Nebraska last year, saying that they tried to learn from

1287
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Speaker 1: the Nebraska game, but Nebraska had been beaten by forty

1288
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 1: nine by Indiana. So his implication here is that you

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Speaker 1: cannot learn anything about the fact or take solace in

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01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 1: the fact that Illinois was beaten soundly by Indiana, because

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01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 1: Indiana soundly beats a lot of people and a lot

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Speaker 1: of good teams. That is, in fact a compliment from

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01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:36,559
Speaker 1: Ryan Day about Indiana, and Derek Schultz had a post

1294
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 1: and he's exactly correct. Who in the world ever would

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01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:43,759
Speaker 1: have thought that we would live to the day where

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Speaker 1: the coach of a number one team and the country

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01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 1: would reference not one, but two Indiana games as you

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01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 1: can't use that as a benchmark because Indiana is that

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01:12:56,920 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 1: much better than so many people Indiana right now. It

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01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 1: is very similar to the Colts. I use football, and

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01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 1: what they're doing under Kurt Signetti is very similar to

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01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:16,799
Speaker 1: the Colts in this regard. The both teams beat teams

1303
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:23,599
Speaker 1: they're supposed to beat soundly, right, number one and number two,

1304
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 1: So not only are they soundly beating teams that they're

1305
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 1: supposed to beat and getting leads and then just compounding

1306
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 1: and compounding and compounding. But in addition to that, they

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01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 1: are in the mix of when you look at it

1308
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 1: and you say, I don't know that they're a top

1309
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:43,679
Speaker 1: ten team, and I think more people feel that about

1310
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 1: Indiana than that. I think people are more sold on

1311
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 1: Indiana as a top ten team than they are the

1312
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 1: acceptance of the fact that the Colts are a top

1313
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 1: five team, let's say, because of what Indiana did a

1314
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 1: year ago, so like there's precedent there of well, yeah,

1315
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they's just carrying on. Having said that, though,

1316
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 1: if you look at college football right now, Eddie, and

1317
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 1: you look at the college football Playoff, and I know

1318
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 1: it's very early for this and there's a lot of

1319
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 1: football to be played, but I think undoubtedly Ohio State

1320
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 1: is the number one team in the country. But who's

1321
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 1: number two? Who's the I don't mean ranking wise, I

1322
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 1: mean who do you feel is the second best team

1323
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 1: in college football?

1324
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 2: With John Mattier healthy? I thought it was Oklahoma. Okay, okay,

1325
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 2: I had a nice staying at home against Michigan. They've

1326
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 2: had some other good wins.

1327
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 1: I think Miami is certainly in the discussion, right I mean,

1328
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 1: Miami's got a couple of impressive wins, and after that,

1329
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 1: I mean Texas A and M actually has a pretty

1330
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 1: impressive resume.

1331
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:50,639
Speaker 2: Oregon Ole Miss, but Texas A.

1332
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 1: And M is the Penn State of the South, right

1333
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 1: where every year you're like, oh my gosh, here's seven

1334
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:58,679
Speaker 1: to Zho A and M. They're going in against Texas

1335
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:00,840
Speaker 1: or Oklahoma, and then they get eat and then the

1336
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 1: next week it turns around and you're like, how in

1337
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 1: the world do they just lose to Kansas State. I'm

1338
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 1: going to make a statement right now that kind of

1339
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 1: pains me to make, Okay, but if you went to

1340
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:27,680
Speaker 1: Saint Richard's, if you went to Saint Pius, if you

1341
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:33,679
Speaker 1: went to Cecina or Ron Collier Cathedral, then you're gonna

1342
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 1: love what I'm about to say. The only reason I

1343
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 1: say that is because the vast majority people who attended

1344
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 1: those schools that I just mentioned are in fact fans

1345
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 1: of this team for the obvious reason. But beyond that,

1346
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:49,679
Speaker 1: if you're a fan of Indiana basketball from nineteen seventy

1347
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:51,640
Speaker 1: five to nineteen ninety five, you're gonna love what I

1348
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 1: say because most of those people are fans of this program,

1349
01:15:56,160 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 1: and it pains me to say it, and it's weird

1350
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 1: to say it because of things. If you look at

1351
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 1: their schedule. But my name is Jake Querry.

1352
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 2: Hello, Jake, Hello, my name's Eddie Garrison.

1353
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,640
Speaker 1: Hello, Eddie. I do a radio program in Indianapolis called

1354
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 1: Query and Company. And I grew up in Indianapolis, Indiana.

1355
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 1: And I'm not a fan of this team. But I

1356
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 1: am prepared right now, on this the seventh day of

1357
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:28,559
Speaker 1: October of twenty twenty five, to declare on the radio

1358
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 1: right now that I do, in my heart believe that No.

1359
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 1: Tre Dame is one of the best eight teams in

1360
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 1: college football. I know that they lost to Miami in Miami.

1361
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:45,720
Speaker 1: I know that they lost kind of flucishly, no disrespect

1362
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:47,680
Speaker 1: to Texas A and M at home to Texas A

1363
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 1: and M. And I know that they have not really

1364
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 1: been tested since then. But like the Colts, No tre Dame,

1365
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:59,559
Speaker 1: like Indiana, is doing what good teams and great teams do.

1366
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 1: That is, when they are going against subpar competition, they

1367
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:10,440
Speaker 1: are emphatically beating them. And when you look at their schedule,

1368
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 1: they still have remaining on their schedule and they've played. Listen.

1369
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 1: I have made a living getting in debates with people

1370
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 1: about the schedule or the quality of schedule of Notre Dame.

1371
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 1: But their schedule this year is good. It's not their

1372
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 1: fault that Boise State is down. Boise State at the

1373
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 1: time that that agreement was made was a top ten program.

1374
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 1: Kudos to them for having them on the schedule. A

1375
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 1: and M in Miami. I mean, that is a stout

1376
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:42,720
Speaker 1: one to two combo to open, no question about it.

1377
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 1: Even though A and M every year, every year, Texas

1378
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 1: A and M every single Texas A and M is

1379
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 1: like the weather great in October, terrible by December every year, right,

1380
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 1: beautiful in September, not so good mid December every year.

1381
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 1: But to go and you know, to lose to A

1382
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 1: and M at home last minute, and to go to Miami,

1383
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 1: and now you know, those two losses are standing the

1384
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 1: test of time to this point pretty nicely. They need

1385
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 1: A and M to uphold their into the bargain and

1386
01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 1: continue with what they're doing because it looks good for them.

1387
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:32,600
Speaker 1: It looks favorable for them. Penn State, though, yeesh, Texas,

1388
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 1: whoof are the biggest boosters in Penn State and State College.

1389
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 1: Asking the area code for Bloomington. I'm just curious, Is

1390
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 1: it possible? Is it possible? Two thir nine, ten seventy

1391
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 1: is the telephone number. Feel free to chime in. Scott

1392
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 1: Agne is going to join us about twelve minutes from now.

1393
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 1: That is because Pacers in Action. They take on the

1394
01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 1: Timberwolves tonight we come back. We have a ticket giveaway

1395
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 1: to get too. We have tickets to give away, correct, Eddie,

1396
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 1: we got lots of tickets, all right, we do have

1397
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 1: lots of tickets. I'm looking at it right now.

1398
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 2: You're actually looking at the show docum when they put

1399
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 2: together every day.

1400
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:15,320
Speaker 1: I am that's a first. Well, usually it's up by

1401
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 1: sometime around eleven fifty six. Okay, So the tickets to

1402
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 1: give away, we're going to do a little get to

1403
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 1: know your listener and would you like to see We'll

1404
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:24,600
Speaker 1: even give you a choice because we have three to

1405
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 1: give away, MGK, Dave Alltel and Kansas not the Kansas.

1406
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 1: I flunked out of Kansas. The band great Band, two

1407
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 1: thirty nine, ten seventy. We'll do it next, Okay. So

1408
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 1: we have tickets to give away to a couple of

1409
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 1: shows MGK which is coming up over the summer, but

1410
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:44,600
Speaker 1: a couple of these are very soon. David Teal is

1411
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:47,600
Speaker 1: going to be here at the Old National at the

1412
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 1: Mirat coming up on Saturday, that's this weekend. And Kansas,

1413
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 1: who you just heard right there, is playing at ever

1414
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 1: Wise coming up on Friday night. That's going to be

1415
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 1: a fabulous show because not only are they a great band,

1416
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 1: not only do they follow me on the expost Twitter,

1417
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 1: by the way, Eddie, but Kansas also the It's going

1418
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:12,479
Speaker 1: to be a beautiful night. And that's both those are

1419
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 1: great venues, absolutely great venues. But but to be outside

1420
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 1: this Friday night, I think it's going to be spectacular.

1421
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 1: Do you know, by the way, one of my strange

1422
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 1: skill sets that I have, Eddie, I can tell you,

1423
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 1: not for all, but for the vast majority, roughly eighty

1424
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 1: four percent. I can tell you the you name the state.

1425
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:31,760
Speaker 1: I can tell you the nickname, like Indiana's the Hoosier State.

1426
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:34,640
Speaker 1: You know, Illinois is the land of Lincoln. Do you

1427
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:38,560
Speaker 1: know what Kansas is? No, that should be one of

1428
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:41,160
Speaker 1: the trivia questions we ask. And I'm not necessarily going

1429
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 1: to hold anybody to having to get it correct in

1430
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 1: order to go, because we're going to give the tickets away.

1431
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:46,760
Speaker 1: We'll begin with Kandas, who joins us on the program.

1432
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:49,560
Speaker 1: This I believe is female listener number thirty. Eddie, you

1433
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:55,720
Speaker 1: happen to have to break a new sounder. This just

1434
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 1: in This number has oscillated a few times, but I

1435
01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 1: believe Candas makes thirty four us unless you called him before, Kansas?

1436
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:02,560
Speaker 1: Have you called the program before.

1437
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 4: I have?

1438
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:06,280
Speaker 3: Eddie?

1439
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 1: Do you have an.

1440
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:09,680
Speaker 4: It?

1441
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 1: Just back to twenty nine in our oscillation? Hi, Kandas?

1442
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:15,799
Speaker 1: How are you just fine?

1443
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 3: How are you?

1444
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 1: Could you have lied him gone with an alias next time?

1445
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 1: By chance?

1446
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 4: No?

1447
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 5: I'm not that bride to think him an alien?

1448
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:28,720
Speaker 1: All right? Candas, you sound fun? Are you a fan

1449
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 1: of Kansas or do you just like the fact that

1450
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:34,680
Speaker 1: it's fun to say Kansas and Kansas? I actually am

1451
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 1: a fan of it.

1452
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 5: My husband got me. I was born a pastor's daughter,

1453
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:41,959
Speaker 5: and so we didn't listen to rock and roll or anything.

1454
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 5: And my husband got me connected to it when we

1455
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 5: got married.

1456
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 4: And that's what we do on Friday night and listen

1457
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 4: to the.

1458
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 5: Old seventies and eighties, and Kansas is one of them.

1459
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 1: I love it, Kandas. That's cool. Now, where did you

1460
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 1: grow up here.

1461
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:57,600
Speaker 3: In Indianapolis, Indiana?

1462
01:21:57,640 --> 01:21:59,759
Speaker 1: All right, fair enough? And then what high school?

1463
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:03,679
Speaker 3: Well, here's your here's your trivia.

1464
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 4: I went to a small Baptist high school.

1465
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 3: On the south side of Indianapolis that was not called.

1466
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 5: Baptist High It was called at the time Baptist Academy.

1467
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 3: And I think they've changed their name.

1468
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 1: Okay, Now let me ask you this I've always heard

1469
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:22,640
Speaker 1: now Candas, and I don't. I don't mean this in

1470
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 1: a todd re sense, okay, But the rumor growing up

1471
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 1: was that kids who you know, whose parents were, you know,

1472
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 1: like the preacher's son, preacher's daughter, all those things. Uh,

1473
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 1: they were the party kids. True or false?

1474
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:39,759
Speaker 6: Well, in our household it was false.

1475
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 5: My dad was so strict, Oh my gosh. No, and

1476
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 5: then I was just too afraid to do anything when

1477
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:47,719
Speaker 5: I got out.

1478
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 3: Of the house.

1479
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:51,920
Speaker 1: That's cool. You sound fun though, Like you said, you

1480
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 1: guys will be awesome to go to Kansas with. Right,

1481
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 1: what's your husband's name. His name is Jeff, Jeff Candas

1482
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 1: and Jeff on your already he goes to Kansas.

1483
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:03,599
Speaker 2: Is that Central Christian Academy do we get the high school?

1484
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 1: Right? Is it Central Christian Academy?

1485
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think yet they're on Billa Avenue.

1486
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:12,760
Speaker 1: Yet, also known as CCA. Look at you, Eddie, Look

1487
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 1: at Eddie.

1488
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:13,720
Speaker 4: Thank you?

1489
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 1: All right, Candace, I appreciate you turning into the program.

1490
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 1: We will get you on your way. Now, here's the thing.

1491
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 1: If you are Daniel a wait man and hold on,

1492
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 1: is this jewel or Julie jewel? Okay, so let's go

1493
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:30,679
Speaker 1: to Daniel first. Daniel's got to be pumped up because Daniel,

1494
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 1: you want to go see Kansas as well?

1495
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:33,720
Speaker 3: Right? Yes, I do.

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01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 1: Now, Daniel, don't you agree If you're going to be

1497
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 1: there with Kansas and Jeff and I'm assuming the seats

1498
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:40,439
Speaker 1: are going to be in proximity with one another, they

1499
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 1: sound fun, right, Daniel? Do you have a favorite song

1500
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 1: from Kansas? I was gonna say you got to go

1501
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 1: with dustin the win, right, I mean, after all, if

1502
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:55,639
Speaker 1: you've ever seen Bill and Ted's right? All right, Daniel,

1503
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:57,280
Speaker 1: we're gonna send you on your way. That was quick

1504
01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 1: and easy for Daniel. So Daniel is on his way now. Scott,

1505
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 1: on the other hand, Scott would like to go see

1506
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 1: David tel that's also coming up this weekend at the

1507
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 1: Mirot at the Old National Center. Hi Scott, how are

1508
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 1: you okay?

1509
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:12,799
Speaker 3: Very good man? This is the same Scott Mini marathon

1510
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:16,200
Speaker 3: Scott about some big melon there with that you're working with.

1511
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 1: I do recall that as a matter of fact, Scott,

1512
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 1: you ran the mini marathon in a Rick Smith's jersey?

1513
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:20,680
Speaker 1: Did you not?

1514
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:23,080
Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely correct? Yeah?

1515
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 1: Are you doing the mini coming up this May?

1516
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:29,800
Speaker 3: I've done fifteen straight. I got a bet with my brother,

1517
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 3: the dude twenty five in a row.

1518
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 1: So how old a fella are you now, Scott?

1519
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 3: I'll be forty in a month, okay.

1520
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 1: And how long have you been stacking milk creates today?

1521
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 1: That's just kidding.

1522
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I'm moving buckets right now to do it.

1523
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:45,600
Speaker 1: Joh, you're moving buckets. You're moving buckets.

1524
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, My buckets can tool different stuff.

1525
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:49,720
Speaker 3: You do a lot of plumbing work, so I got

1526
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:51,360
Speaker 3: to constantly in it out, in and out.

1527
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 1: So you're just laying pipe all day.

1528
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:57,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, they basically at work and at home.

1529
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 1: That's what I like to hear. That's what I'd like

1530
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 1: to hear, Scott. All right, well i'll tell you what

1531
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 1: start training for the many and you will enjoy the

1532
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 1: show coming up this weekend, and I will see you

1533
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 1: in the mini marathon for number sixteen for you all right,

1534
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:14,680
Speaker 1: we got two more to give away. Here's a right

1535
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 1: or one more?

1536
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 2: One more with two contestants.

1537
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 1: I'll let you pick Eddie, you dial him up, I'll

1538
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:20,760
Speaker 1: let you pick.

1539
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 2: I'll go with Chris.

1540
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 1: Hi, Chris, how are you doing well?

1541
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 3: Sir? How are you? You know?

1542
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 1: I can't complain you're driving right now? Hands at ten

1543
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 1: and two If you are.

1544
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:34,719
Speaker 6: I'm kind of at one in three, okay?

1545
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 1: Also also acceptable. How are the road conditions? By the way,

1546
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:39,599
Speaker 1: it was a little misty when I came in.

1547
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:42,559
Speaker 5: No, it's real good out here on the east side.

1548
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 1: No rain today, No rain today. I was doing the

1549
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 1: monon over the weekend and I went past White River

1550
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 1: now known as White Ditch. We need some rain, is

1551
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 1: what I'm getting at there. Chris. You know what I mean?

1552
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:54,920
Speaker 1: A little dry?

1553
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:56,560
Speaker 3: I understand that.

1554
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:58,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Chris, how old a fell are you? If you

1555
01:25:58,560 --> 01:25:59,680
Speaker 1: don't mind me asking.

1556
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:04,320
Speaker 6: I am a spry sixty five.

1557
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I mean listen nothing or ONNG with that.

1558
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:10,479
Speaker 1: You sound spry, do you? I am just out of

1559
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 1: curiosity when we occasionally do, and believe me, it's at

1560
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:16,920
Speaker 1: the bag of our bosses. It is occasional when we

1561
01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 1: do the get to know your caller segment, which kids

1562
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:20,880
Speaker 1: love and we've had a lot of research on that.

1563
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 1: Do you find yourself as a listener enjoying the get

1564
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:26,360
Speaker 1: to know your listener segment or rather just something that

1565
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 1: you need to wade through kind of like the ditch

1566
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 1: of White River when there's no rain.

1567
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:32,599
Speaker 4: So I do like the get to know your listener?

1568
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:34,960
Speaker 1: Okay, anything you want to add in that we need

1569
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 1: to know about you? Chris, Well, I'm a huge Kansas fan.

1570
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:45,439
Speaker 1: The band of the basketball team, or football or football

1571
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 1: or Chiefs.

1572
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:48,800
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, the band for sure.

1573
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 1: Chris. Do you happen to know have you been to

1574
01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:51,240
Speaker 1: the state of Kansas?

1575
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:52,880
Speaker 3: You know?

1576
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 6: I never have.

1577
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 1: Okay, do you know what their nickname is? For example? Like,

1578
01:26:57,439 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 1: give me a state off the top of your head, Chris,

1579
01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 1: there's a little skill I have. Give me any state,

1580
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:03,200
Speaker 1: any state at all.

1581
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 3: Let's go Arkansas.

1582
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 1: Arkansas, I believe is the natural state. Now can you

1583
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 1: look that up for me, Eddie if you could. I

1584
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:13,160
Speaker 1: believe Arkansas, though, is the natural state. Is their nickname?

1585
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 1: But you are correct. Well, yes, think it's a little skill.

1586
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 1: I have eighty four percent. I can usually hit Chris.

1587
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:24,000
Speaker 1: Kansas is the sunflower state. Just so you know, I

1588
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 1: think I heard that.

1589
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 5: Isn't it the wheat state too?

1590
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 1: Well, again, interesting question. It is known for its wheat.

1591
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:32,759
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, when you pull into Kansas,

1592
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 1: they have a huge sign that says the Kansas Wheat

1593
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 1: Farmer feeds eleven people and you. And then if you

1594
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 1: go to a Kansas basketball game, they put their arms

1595
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 1: in the air and they wave it back and forth

1596
01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 1: to simulate the wave of the grains of wheat. So

1597
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 1: it is known for its wheat, but it is the

1598
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:52,320
Speaker 1: sunflower state. There you go. It's more info about Kansas

1599
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 1: than you'd ever need to know. But you also are

1600
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 1: on your way to go see them in the band.

1601
01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:57,639
Speaker 1: We will get you either tickets and I appreciate you listen.

1602
01:27:57,720 --> 01:28:03,559
Speaker 1: I've also heard it called the Garden of the West, Eddie.

1603
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 1: You got the Gateway to the West, which is in Missouri,

1604
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 1: which also borders Kansas, just so you know.

1605
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:10,839
Speaker 2: In the bread Basket of the World, that's another nickname

1606
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:12,200
Speaker 2: for Kansas, apparently.

1607
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:14,600
Speaker 1: The bread basket of the world. Yes, now, I do

1608
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:17,160
Speaker 1: know this. I know that in there was I had

1609
01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:19,640
Speaker 1: buddies from McPherson, Kansas when I was at KU and

1610
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, where exactly is McPherson And they're like, it's

1611
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 1: the staple in your book when you opened up a

1612
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 1: map of the United States, because it's like right in

1613
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 1: the middle of the state, and you know when you

1614
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 1: open the map. I'm like, Okay, that's a good way

1615
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:33,600
Speaker 1: of saying it. Scott Agnes joins us next Pacers in

1616
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:36,320
Speaker 1: Action tonight, taking on the Timberwolves. A couple of interesting

1617
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 1: points and players to watch. We'll discuss with him next

1618
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:45,680
Speaker 1: Pacers in Action tonight, taking on the Minnesota Timberwolves. Minnesota,

1619
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 1: by the way, the Land of ten Thousand Lakes. Joining

1620
01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:54,200
Speaker 1: us now on the Java House peeling poor guest line.

1621
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:57,519
Speaker 1: He's a guy that probably you could see working at

1622
01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:02,559
Speaker 1: a Java House coffee outlet near you. Scott Agnes joining

1623
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 1: us from Fieldhouse Files and Scott, I'll begin with this.

1624
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 1: We were talking about the Pacers earlier and one of

1625
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:13,599
Speaker 1: the things that I'm most interested in. So before I guess,

1626
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:15,600
Speaker 1: I tip my hand and lead to witness with my

1627
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 1: own answer. The player or players that you are the

1628
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:22,400
Speaker 1: most intrigued to see what they're able to do here

1629
01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:24,760
Speaker 1: at the outset of the season and through the preseason

1630
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:25,160
Speaker 1: would be.

1631
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:28,559
Speaker 5: Who, First of all, great Jake with Java House, big fan.

1632
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 5: But for me, it's all about the center position. Jake,

1633
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:35,679
Speaker 5: we got two players coming off achilles tendon injuries less

1634
01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:38,639
Speaker 5: than a year ago. To me, I'm circling the center

1635
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:42,439
Speaker 5: spot and seeing what's Isaiah Jackson, what James Wiseman and

1636
01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:44,280
Speaker 5: to the bigger point, what Jay Houff looked like?

1637
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:47,400
Speaker 1: That's it. And by the way, the are you a

1638
01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:49,680
Speaker 1: coffee guy? Are you more the latte guy? What do

1639
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 1: you go with? Scott?

1640
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:54,200
Speaker 5: More black coffee? Most of the time I'll mix in

1641
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 5: a latte in the afternoon.

1642
01:29:55,560 --> 01:30:00,200
Speaker 1: The Colombian is very good because it's amazingly smooth. And yeah, yeah,

1643
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:03,679
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see how amazingly smooth the Pacers' bigs

1644
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:07,799
Speaker 1: are because and not just Scott, because I think Isaiah

1645
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:12,280
Speaker 1: Jackson was so I loved when he would get minutes

1646
01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:16,040
Speaker 1: in spot minutes and at times significant minutes when he

1647
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:18,840
Speaker 1: was healthy, and then he had the achilles injury. And

1648
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:23,599
Speaker 1: it goes without saying that I'm intrigued to see both

1649
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:27,800
Speaker 1: He and James Wiseman how much bounce they still have,

1650
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:31,479
Speaker 1: because that was what separated both of them when healthy,

1651
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 1: even though Wiseman it was elsewhere. I mean, we didn't

1652
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 1: see him much here, but you know, just because I'm

1653
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:40,200
Speaker 1: so fascinated by the Tyrese Haliburton recovery, and I know

1654
01:30:40,240 --> 01:30:44,559
Speaker 1: that everybody is different, Scott, I know that, but so

1655
01:30:44,720 --> 01:30:47,200
Speaker 1: far from what you've been able to see in very

1656
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:51,000
Speaker 1: limited exposure to them, does it look like, and you

1657
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 1: can go with both of them individually here, how much

1658
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:57,520
Speaker 1: step potentially does it look like either may have lost?

1659
01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:01,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say just so far, so good. I thought.

1660
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:03,160
Speaker 4: At the fan gym in particular.

1661
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:05,920
Speaker 5: They both had had some good minutes, both had some

1662
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:10,160
Speaker 5: athletic points. Whether it was jumping, blocking, leaping, forget, whatever

1663
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 5: the sequence was, that didn't matter to me. It was

1664
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 5: more did they recover, did they hesitate? Did they have

1665
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:19,720
Speaker 5: a quick first step? And I was encouraged by what

1666
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:22,920
Speaker 5: I saw, But it's also a step above a practice.

1667
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:27,280
Speaker 5: So that's why starting tonight will be so important, because

1668
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 5: first of all, we were all curious to see what

1669
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 5: James Wiseman looked like last year, and it happened in

1670
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:34,800
Speaker 5: game one in the first five minutes. And then to

1671
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:37,599
Speaker 5: your point, with Isaiah Jackson, you could really saw him,

1672
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:40,519
Speaker 5: could see him carving out like an eighteen to twenty

1673
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:43,800
Speaker 5: minute backup role last year, which obviously never really got

1674
01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:46,559
Speaker 5: to fruition. And while I agree with the Pacers that

1675
01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:49,080
Speaker 5: they can find ways to fill the hole that was

1676
01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:51,519
Speaker 5: left behind it with Miles Turner, I think one that's

1677
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:54,919
Speaker 5: going to take some time and mostly just building chemistry

1678
01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:57,160
Speaker 5: with whatever lineup they decide to go with, which I

1679
01:31:57,160 --> 01:32:00,320
Speaker 5: believe will start with Isaiah Jackson followed by Jay Help

1680
01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 5: at that position. But I do not want to overlook it,

1681
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:06,080
Speaker 5: and that's why it's my number one thing without question.

1682
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:10,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think and Scott not to dwell on this,

1683
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:13,559
Speaker 1: but when you look at Halliburton and the video that

1684
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:15,400
Speaker 1: I've seen, I know that you know he was shooting

1685
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:18,679
Speaker 1: the other day and he's done different things, and people

1686
01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:23,479
Speaker 1: myself included, get excited by that. But then I have

1687
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:25,920
Speaker 1: to temper myself because I'm like, look, he is not

1688
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:30,040
Speaker 1: it's certainly no time soon is he coming back, And

1689
01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:33,120
Speaker 1: I don't know whether or not his And so this

1690
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:37,919
Speaker 1: is my question for you, Scott. With Halliburton, the steps

1691
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:41,960
Speaker 1: that he's made to this point, does he seemingly appear

1692
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:44,640
Speaker 1: to be above schedule, I mean ahead of schedule or

1693
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:47,680
Speaker 1: basically is everything going about what they anticipated?

1694
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:51,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, my sense is he's just slightly ahead of the schedule,

1695
01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:55,040
Speaker 5: just on the various checkpoints in terms of getting out

1696
01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:57,000
Speaker 5: of a boot, moving to his shoe part time. The

1697
01:32:57,040 --> 01:32:59,160
Speaker 5: other night, I think it was Saturday, they had their

1698
01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:02,800
Speaker 5: Golden Gala dress. Shoes doesn't seem like much, but to me,

1699
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:06,320
Speaker 5: that's an uncomfortable shoe most time. So that's encouraging that

1700
01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:08,639
Speaker 5: he's able to do that, that he's able to get

1701
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:12,479
Speaker 5: shots up and walk around fine without a limp. So

1702
01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:15,120
Speaker 5: I think all signs are encouraging. But yes, like you said,

1703
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:17,519
Speaker 5: I also want to stress it's going to take time,

1704
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:21,439
Speaker 5: and he needs to take all the time necessary because

1705
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:26,160
Speaker 5: guys recover from this injury in particular at various speeds,

1706
01:33:26,160 --> 01:33:29,320
Speaker 5: and we've seen several of them here with Edam and Sumner,

1707
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:31,240
Speaker 5: with these two lately.

1708
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:33,360
Speaker 4: And even to go back a decade with Tamika Catchings

1709
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:33,720
Speaker 4: as well.

1710
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:39,120
Speaker 1: The kind of mixed signal Scott, because Chad Buchanan had

1711
01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:41,120
Speaker 1: said and I can't remember when or where it was,

1712
01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:44,320
Speaker 1: probably was with JMV, although it might have been at

1713
01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:46,360
Speaker 1: the end of the year in a presser that he

1714
01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:49,000
Speaker 1: thought that he was open to the fact or was

1715
01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:51,840
Speaker 1: admitting to the fact that this year there was the

1716
01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:54,560
Speaker 1: possibility that the Pacers were going to slow pace a

1717
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:57,680
Speaker 1: little bit. We had Aaron Nesmith on a couple of

1718
01:33:57,680 --> 01:34:00,360
Speaker 1: weeks ago and he said, absolutely not, there's not going

1719
01:34:00,400 --> 01:34:02,719
Speaker 1: to be any slow pace at all. We anticipate playing fast.

1720
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:06,000
Speaker 1: And you know, Eddie was mentioning through what he saw

1721
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:09,080
Speaker 1: they so far are doing exactly that. What do you

1722
01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:13,839
Speaker 1: anticipate for let's say the first month, that the average

1723
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:15,840
Speaker 1: pace is going to be for them.

1724
01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:19,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say it's probably very similar, if not

1725
01:34:19,439 --> 01:34:21,760
Speaker 5: just a little bit below what it was last year.

1726
01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:25,760
Speaker 5: I mean, they've been running at every opportunity. They're still

1727
01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:29,320
Speaker 5: going to be pressuring at full court, causing chaos. They

1728
01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:32,120
Speaker 5: know what their standard is, they know where they can

1729
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:35,439
Speaker 5: get ahead of opponents, and those are their strengths. These

1730
01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:38,840
Speaker 5: aren't things they're doing just because they're shorthanded, and I

1731
01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:43,080
Speaker 5: think those areas are going to continue even without Hallivern

1732
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:45,840
Speaker 5: in particular, and they brought in guards and maybe the

1733
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:48,720
Speaker 5: other thing I'm curious for this first month Jake is

1734
01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:53,000
Speaker 5: how they work the guard rotation, in particular with Ben

1735
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:56,320
Speaker 5: Shephard being out in the short term with rookie Cam Jones,

1736
01:34:56,360 --> 01:35:00,280
Speaker 5: who was brought in and drafted and hoped to be available, well,

1737
01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:02,200
Speaker 5: he's gonna miss at least two to three weeks here

1738
01:35:02,240 --> 01:35:04,720
Speaker 5: to start the season, which I really don't like as

1739
01:35:04,760 --> 01:35:07,720
Speaker 5: a rookie as he's dealing with an injury, and so

1740
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:10,679
Speaker 5: that means he basically misses all of his rookie training camp.

1741
01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:13,280
Speaker 4: So I think the speed will be there.

1742
01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:17,400
Speaker 5: I'm very curious how the minutes allocation will be given

1743
01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:19,759
Speaker 5: the different lineups and such. But I think the most

1744
01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:22,600
Speaker 5: intriguing thing and fun thing I think Jake will be

1745
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:27,519
Speaker 5: that second unit with young, aspiring, hungry guys like a

1746
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:30,760
Speaker 5: Jaris Walker, Johnny Furfey, guys that have a lot to

1747
01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:32,240
Speaker 5: show and still a lot to prove.

1748
01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:36,880
Speaker 2: Scott, something that I noticed when you just mentioned, you know,

1749
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:39,320
Speaker 2: picking up full court and whatnot during Fangen was that,

1750
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:42,559
Speaker 2: and this is something that may have to change throughout

1751
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:45,080
Speaker 2: the course of the seasons that last year Andrew Nimhart

1752
01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:48,360
Speaker 2: primarily was defending the other team's best score if it

1753
01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:51,439
Speaker 2: was a guard. I noticed that Bennittigte Maatheren took over

1754
01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:54,880
Speaker 2: the full court pickup in terms of the defensive you know,

1755
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:57,160
Speaker 2: the full court defense rather than Andrew Newmart. Is that

1756
01:35:57,360 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 2: something that we can see more of, just to kind

1757
01:35:59,880 --> 01:36:02,400
Speaker 2: of offload some of the work on Andrew Nimhart's plate

1758
01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:04,639
Speaker 2: to keep him fresh throughout the course of the season.

1759
01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:08,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's just that because you're going from

1760
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:11,200
Speaker 5: his number one thing was take on the best defender.

1761
01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:13,479
Speaker 5: Now his number one thing has got to be to

1762
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:15,439
Speaker 5: run the team, to get them organized, to get them

1763
01:36:15,560 --> 01:36:18,320
Speaker 5: into sets. We got to remember too, the fact how

1764
01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:21,240
Speaker 5: much of Halliburton was setting things up. Now, a lot

1765
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:23,760
Speaker 5: of it was a free flowing offense, red react and

1766
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:26,240
Speaker 5: try to capitalize in transition, but a lot of it

1767
01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:26,920
Speaker 5: was Haliburton.

1768
01:36:26,920 --> 01:36:27,840
Speaker 4: It's needed to.

1769
01:36:27,880 --> 01:36:30,840
Speaker 5: Call the plays or see something that he could take

1770
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:34,640
Speaker 5: advantage of from an offensive standpoint, but then defensively, so

1771
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:36,800
Speaker 5: many times he was kind of just a free safety

1772
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:39,560
Speaker 5: or whatever. So yeah, I think that's going to be

1773
01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:42,479
Speaker 5: There's so many different points that are intriguing.

1774
01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:43,600
Speaker 4: But that's another one is how do.

1775
01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:47,680
Speaker 5: They handle defensive assignments while still applying pressure Because they

1776
01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:49,720
Speaker 5: got to allow for Nemhart to get some breathers, to

1777
01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:52,839
Speaker 5: get some breaks given the heavy workload and higher usage

1778
01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:54,759
Speaker 5: rate that I'm expecting this upcoming season.

1779
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:59,840
Speaker 1: Scott, you just mentioned a guy that I'm really intrigued by,

1780
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:03,439
Speaker 1: and I feel like just a good way putting it. Scott,

1781
01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:05,000
Speaker 1: did you ever watch the TV show The Wire?

1782
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:08,000
Speaker 4: I have not yet. That's on the to do list.

1783
01:37:08,240 --> 01:37:10,559
Speaker 1: I think we've discussed it before. I personally think it's

1784
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:14,000
Speaker 1: the greatest show ever done, but that's neither here nor there.

1785
01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:16,280
Speaker 1: One of the interesting things about it is at the

1786
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:20,439
Speaker 1: end of the series, each character you realize kind of

1787
01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:24,120
Speaker 1: has the next generation right below it that you can

1788
01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:28,839
Speaker 1: tell is going to replace in society that character, okay, okay.

1789
01:37:29,479 --> 01:37:32,640
Speaker 1: On an NBA roster, the last couple of years, we

1790
01:37:32,680 --> 01:37:35,360
Speaker 1: have seen Jeris Walker be a young player that has

1791
01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:39,000
Speaker 1: kind of patiently waited his time, gotten into rotation, then

1792
01:37:39,080 --> 01:37:41,519
Speaker 1: kind of been out, then back in, and then obviously

1793
01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:43,560
Speaker 1: the injury right when I thought he was ready to

1794
01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:46,759
Speaker 1: take the next step. Assuming this year, due to attrition,

1795
01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:49,439
Speaker 1: he is going to get that opportunity for the next step.

1796
01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:53,280
Speaker 1: Does Johnny Furfey become the new jarifs Walker? Is this

1797
01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:56,479
Speaker 1: a guy that we're going to see getting rotation, then

1798
01:37:56,560 --> 01:38:00,280
Speaker 1: back out of rotation and tease us and and then

1799
01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:02,320
Speaker 1: just have to wait, et cetera.

1800
01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:04,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do think so.

1801
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:06,799
Speaker 5: If not, though, I think he might be a step

1802
01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:11,200
Speaker 5: above in terms of having greater of opportunity here so quickly.

1803
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:13,400
Speaker 5: And I really like the short flashes that we have

1804
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:16,680
Speaker 5: seen already from him, starting with Summer League and then

1805
01:38:16,720 --> 01:38:20,479
Speaker 5: going into this last week, because they've only had about

1806
01:38:20,479 --> 01:38:23,280
Speaker 5: four practices to this point. But Furfee, what he can

1807
01:38:23,320 --> 01:38:25,400
Speaker 5: do inside and out, I feel like he hasn't stopped

1808
01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:28,400
Speaker 5: growing is another thing. And then I think a lot

1809
01:38:28,479 --> 01:38:30,559
Speaker 5: of it's too, is just learning the game and learning

1810
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:32,800
Speaker 5: the league like he was at Kansas for a year,

1811
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:35,479
Speaker 5: came as the NBA as a nineteen year old. There

1812
01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:39,400
Speaker 5: is so much to absorb and soak in over this process,

1813
01:38:39,439 --> 01:38:41,240
Speaker 5: and then the next thing is a pregame.

1814
01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:43,120
Speaker 4: He always worked with assistant coach Mike Winer.

1815
01:38:43,160 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 5: Well, that coach has gone, so now there's another adaptation

1816
01:38:46,479 --> 01:38:48,479
Speaker 5: that you'll have for Johnny Furfey. But yeah, I think

1817
01:38:48,479 --> 01:38:51,719
Speaker 5: that's spot on, Jake in terms of Johnny's already become

1818
01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:54,479
Speaker 5: a fan favorite, by the way, which also helps that

1819
01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:56,400
Speaker 5: case because you know fans are going to be cheering

1820
01:38:56,439 --> 01:39:00,080
Speaker 5: his name, whether it's a blowout one way or the

1821
01:39:00,439 --> 01:39:03,400
Speaker 5: or there's an obvious gap for him to maybe slide

1822
01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:04,960
Speaker 5: into the rotation for an evening.

1823
01:39:05,080 --> 01:39:11,520
Speaker 1: Could Johnny Furfey actually move past Jaris Walker in rotation.

1824
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:16,559
Speaker 5: Perhaps eventually, I don't think right away. For a number

1825
01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:21,600
Speaker 5: of reasons. Jeris leaned more on for his defense or

1826
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:25,880
Speaker 5: his instincts for those type of things, and I think

1827
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:29,479
Speaker 5: Johnny has more to come along from that defensive end.

1828
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:33,439
Speaker 5: I think Johnny plays better in terms of playing fast,

1829
01:39:33,479 --> 01:39:37,000
Speaker 5: getting up and down the court, getting into something random

1830
01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:39,599
Speaker 5: like this team likes. But I think Jerri's is further

1831
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:42,000
Speaker 5: along in other ways that will lead to him being

1832
01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:43,840
Speaker 5: ahead in the rotation at least to start.

1833
01:39:45,200 --> 01:39:47,920
Speaker 1: Scott Agnes's our guest Fieldhouse Files, where you can read

1834
01:39:47,960 --> 01:39:52,240
Speaker 1: his work Pacers in Action tonight taking on the Timberwolves

1835
01:39:52,320 --> 01:39:55,519
Speaker 1: in Minnesota. Scott, what do you as you've been around

1836
01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:58,559
Speaker 1: it and you've gone into you know, everything from media

1837
01:39:58,680 --> 01:40:04,080
Speaker 1: day to just you know, observing the shoot arounds whatever

1838
01:40:04,120 --> 01:40:07,559
Speaker 1: it may be, how do you approach or how do

1839
01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:11,240
Speaker 1: you how do you I guess decipher the cults or

1840
01:40:11,240 --> 01:40:13,680
Speaker 1: excuse me, the Pacers like body language, they're approach to

1841
01:40:13,720 --> 01:40:16,800
Speaker 1: it all. In other words, we as fans in media

1842
01:40:16,840 --> 01:40:19,040
Speaker 1: are like, okay, gap here, gap year, gap here. It

1843
01:40:19,080 --> 01:40:20,880
Speaker 1: seems to me like they don't want to hear that, right.

1844
01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:25,040
Speaker 1: What is their philosophy or approach? What are they preaching?

1845
01:40:25,920 --> 01:40:29,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, So, like for example, going into last season, I

1846
01:40:29,439 --> 01:40:33,080
Speaker 5: think a lot of fans were saying, hey, we're we

1847
01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:35,760
Speaker 5: want to see you keep getting to another series. And

1848
01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:38,080
Speaker 5: the Pacers, from that standpoint, we're sitting there like, no,

1849
01:40:38,120 --> 01:40:39,960
Speaker 5: we want to reach the NBA finals. And look what

1850
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:42,280
Speaker 5: they did, Like that was true, Like that was not

1851
01:40:42,640 --> 01:40:45,280
Speaker 5: they were not completely full of it. And so going

1852
01:40:45,320 --> 01:40:47,639
Speaker 5: into this year, Yeah, you're exactly right, they're not looking

1853
01:40:47,680 --> 01:40:50,080
Speaker 5: at as oh, let's just get by, let's see if

1854
01:40:50,080 --> 01:40:52,680
Speaker 5: we can win forty games and just stay in the

1855
01:40:52,720 --> 01:40:55,240
Speaker 5: conversation and be relevant. No, you have a lot of

1856
01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:58,160
Speaker 5: guys that want to continue to elevate their game. Like

1857
01:40:58,200 --> 01:41:00,679
Speaker 5: I still believe there's a lot more there for even

1858
01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:04,280
Speaker 5: starters like Andrew Nimhart and Aaron Neismith to take another level.

1859
01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:06,840
Speaker 5: Obviously a big question at center. We know at this

1860
01:41:06,880 --> 01:41:09,559
Speaker 5: point exactly what Siakam is. But by the way, I

1861
01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:12,599
Speaker 5: continue to praise the front office from that standpoint because

1862
01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:14,760
Speaker 5: we knew what he could do on the court, but

1863
01:41:14,960 --> 01:41:17,439
Speaker 5: he has continued to excel and go above and beyond,

1864
01:41:17,479 --> 01:41:20,120
Speaker 5: and maybe that's just what he read of this situation

1865
01:41:20,200 --> 01:41:21,560
Speaker 5: and where he needed to contribute.

1866
01:41:21,560 --> 01:41:22,080
Speaker 4: But no, I.

1867
01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:24,600
Speaker 5: Think this team it fully expects to get back to

1868
01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:27,680
Speaker 5: the playoffs and surprise everyone, and I think they are

1869
01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:30,040
Speaker 5: just fine with that. And I think in general, like

1870
01:41:30,320 --> 01:41:32,599
Speaker 5: to your T shirt theme, like that's what this market

1871
01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:34,760
Speaker 5: is about. I think we're in the golden arrow really

1872
01:41:35,080 --> 01:41:40,760
Speaker 5: of Indiana sports, amongst so many different teams exactly, and

1873
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:43,839
Speaker 5: I think they all Jake thrive on being that underdog.

1874
01:41:43,880 --> 01:41:46,759
Speaker 5: I mean there's been years pass where the Pacers would

1875
01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:49,360
Speaker 5: if they be favored in a game, they play poorly.

1876
01:41:49,479 --> 01:41:54,919
Speaker 5: If they're the underdog, they'd come out and completely raceel

1877
01:41:55,160 --> 01:41:57,439
Speaker 5: make things complicated, come off with the win, and not

1878
01:41:57,479 --> 01:42:00,400
Speaker 5: be surprised by anything. So I think again there leaning

1879
01:42:00,400 --> 01:42:03,120
Speaker 5: into that, it's it's not by any means a season

1880
01:42:03,160 --> 01:42:07,240
Speaker 5: of discovery with many different parts, but this first month

1881
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:10,719
Speaker 5: will be very interesting for those number of reasons.

1882
01:42:10,760 --> 01:42:11,680
Speaker 4: We started out at the.

1883
01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:15,639
Speaker 1: Top with but Scott, between Niemid Nemhard and those three,

1884
01:42:15,800 --> 01:42:18,320
Speaker 1: the guy that is going to be asked to most

1885
01:42:18,360 --> 01:42:22,120
Speaker 1: deviate from the or be more versatile, and the way

1886
01:42:22,160 --> 01:42:23,880
Speaker 1: they've played before is which.

1887
01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:30,200
Speaker 5: My first instinct there is not Nemhard but rather because

1888
01:42:30,280 --> 01:42:32,759
Speaker 5: nim Hart's handled the ball. He's been a point guard before,

1889
01:42:33,040 --> 01:42:35,000
Speaker 5: and in fact, a couple of years ago going into

1890
01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:38,040
Speaker 5: the season, he's spent his off season planning to be

1891
01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:40,599
Speaker 5: the backup point guard, but he was just too good

1892
01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:42,360
Speaker 5: that they couldn't have him out of the starting lineup.

1893
01:42:42,400 --> 01:42:45,040
Speaker 5: So for those reasons, I'm going to see a Siakam

1894
01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:48,559
Speaker 5: because without Halliburton, his voice, his leadership on the court,

1895
01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:53,320
Speaker 5: his production, there's going to be needed more consistency and

1896
01:42:53,479 --> 01:42:55,640
Speaker 5: different rules and hats worn by Siakam.

1897
01:42:56,040 --> 01:42:59,320
Speaker 2: I'm glad you mentioned the tyrese Haliburton not being on

1898
01:42:59,360 --> 01:43:02,720
Speaker 2: the floor from the voice aspects, Scott, because I've been

1899
01:43:02,760 --> 01:43:05,640
Speaker 2: starting to think about this lately, like who's gonna have

1900
01:43:05,680 --> 01:43:08,559
Speaker 2: to step up as the vocal leader because no Halliburn,

1901
01:43:08,600 --> 01:43:11,000
Speaker 2: obviously no Miles Truner. But I think a secret third

1902
01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:13,479
Speaker 2: voice that we don't talk about enough this team not

1903
01:43:13,520 --> 01:43:17,040
Speaker 2: having anymore is James Johnson. He plays such a critical

1904
01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:20,080
Speaker 2: role behind the scenes with the development of some guys

1905
01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:23,200
Speaker 2: and keeping guys on track how and who I should say,

1906
01:43:23,240 --> 01:43:25,559
Speaker 2: who's gonna have to step up and assume those roles

1907
01:43:25,600 --> 01:43:28,080
Speaker 2: because those are three things that have to be filled

1908
01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:28,840
Speaker 2: this upcoming year.

1909
01:43:29,479 --> 01:43:34,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, and Miles's voice, especially defensively, was significant one. The

1910
01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:36,720
Speaker 5: one thing with James, while it would be nice if

1911
01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:39,719
Speaker 5: he would return, the other thing I Eddie felt going

1912
01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:43,080
Speaker 5: into this season is that he's been around for two

1913
01:43:43,120 --> 01:43:43,840
Speaker 5: or three years here.

1914
01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:46,000
Speaker 4: It kind of felt like this season.

1915
01:43:45,920 --> 01:43:47,400
Speaker 5: Could be a time where you could kind of let

1916
01:43:47,439 --> 01:43:50,040
Speaker 5: the let the kids go and do what you've trained

1917
01:43:50,080 --> 01:43:52,280
Speaker 5: them to do, right like let the nest go out

1918
01:43:52,320 --> 01:43:55,559
Speaker 5: into the real world and see how the last couple

1919
01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:58,080
Speaker 5: of years have gone and how you've gotten them ready

1920
01:43:58,120 --> 01:44:00,519
Speaker 5: to this point. They're Siakam, I think, and Heath Smiths

1921
01:44:00,840 --> 01:44:05,000
Speaker 5: going to continue to elevate what he contributes in a

1922
01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:08,280
Speaker 5: variety of ways, and then I think we shouldn't undervalue

1923
01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:11,639
Speaker 5: the voice of TJ. McConnell off the bench as well.

1924
01:44:12,200 --> 01:44:14,400
Speaker 5: He's seen a lot, he's played over ten years in

1925
01:44:14,439 --> 01:44:17,479
Speaker 5: the league, so I think he can elevate where he

1926
01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:20,360
Speaker 5: contributes as well. From that standpoint, but there will be

1927
01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:24,320
Speaker 5: no replacing James Johnson. I just think it's probably time

1928
01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:26,880
Speaker 5: to let this team fly on its own, is how

1929
01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:27,720
Speaker 5: I does put it.

1930
01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:30,200
Speaker 1: Scott. The following that I'm about to ask is almost

1931
01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:34,599
Speaker 1: embarrassing because it sounds so ludicrous. Okay, but when you

1932
01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:36,519
Speaker 1: consider and I know that they don't. They don't want

1933
01:44:36,520 --> 01:44:38,080
Speaker 1: to talk gap year and that kind of thing. The

1934
01:44:38,160 --> 01:44:42,160
Speaker 1: reality is this, we know what and who the Pacers

1935
01:44:42,160 --> 01:44:45,320
Speaker 1: can be once Halliburton gets back, and you know, hopefully

1936
01:44:45,479 --> 01:44:47,920
Speaker 1: is close to what we have seen from his level

1937
01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:51,320
Speaker 1: of play, but that's a year from now. They got

1938
01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:54,840
Speaker 1: so much benefit when they were at their apex from

1939
01:44:54,920 --> 01:44:58,919
Speaker 1: the energy and the experience down the stretch of TJ. McConnell.

1940
01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:04,519
Speaker 1: They become cautious to not overplay McConnell this year because

1941
01:45:04,520 --> 01:45:07,760
Speaker 1: of his age. To preserve him if you will for

1942
01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:11,360
Speaker 1: when Haliburton is back. And I know that sounds crazy, No.

1943
01:45:11,320 --> 01:45:13,160
Speaker 5: It doesn't, but I would say yes, but for a

1944
01:45:13,160 --> 01:45:16,520
Speaker 5: different reason. I think his superpower is playing a specific

1945
01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:19,560
Speaker 5: a lot mental in it a minutes at eighteen to

1946
01:45:19,600 --> 01:45:22,360
Speaker 5: twenty two to twenty three, and because of how high energy,

1947
01:45:22,640 --> 01:45:25,240
Speaker 5: how high strong, how much he's laying it on the line,

1948
01:45:25,560 --> 01:45:28,720
Speaker 5: I think you lose some of that greatness, that pureness,

1949
01:45:28,760 --> 01:45:32,880
Speaker 5: that ability, if you're trying to stretch him beyond his means.

1950
01:45:32,920 --> 01:45:36,040
Speaker 5: And so for that reason, more than anything, is why

1951
01:45:36,080 --> 01:45:37,960
Speaker 5: I think they have to be cautious of playing him,

1952
01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:40,679
Speaker 5: say more than twenty four to twenty five minutes per game.

1953
01:45:40,720 --> 01:45:42,599
Speaker 1: If you could have a superpower, what would you pick?

1954
01:45:43,280 --> 01:45:47,120
Speaker 4: Fly? Eddie, I like to save time. I am such

1955
01:45:47,120 --> 01:45:47,800
Speaker 4: an impatient for.

1956
01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:49,479
Speaker 1: That, that's fair. I don't know.

1957
01:45:49,720 --> 01:45:52,080
Speaker 2: Fly is a really good one. I was trying to go.

1958
01:45:52,160 --> 01:45:53,679
Speaker 2: It was with something different because he stole mine.

1959
01:45:53,680 --> 01:45:58,160
Speaker 1: Now, like when you fly, though, Scott, how high are

1960
01:45:58,200 --> 01:46:01,800
Speaker 1: you flying? And how fast? You know what?

1961
01:46:01,880 --> 01:46:03,720
Speaker 5: I haven't thought about that, but I would say as

1962
01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:06,320
Speaker 5: fast as possible, because I would just be there in

1963
01:46:06,360 --> 01:46:06,879
Speaker 5: an instant.

1964
01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:11,080
Speaker 1: So, yeah, I mean do we want to you?

1965
01:46:11,200 --> 01:46:13,240
Speaker 4: Can they teleporting? It would be next maybe?

1966
01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:15,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, if you teleport, you don't need to fly, right.

1967
01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:17,479
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying you would want two of me.

1968
01:46:17,560 --> 01:46:19,040
Speaker 2: I would want multiple of me. I could be in

1969
01:46:19,120 --> 01:46:20,760
Speaker 2: multiple places, doing multiple different things.

1970
01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:24,640
Speaker 1: Ed Sorenson used to routinely saying, I just clone me.

1971
01:46:25,200 --> 01:46:27,160
Speaker 1: I just want to get two of me. It was

1972
01:46:27,200 --> 01:46:29,559
Speaker 1: like a number one line. But for what reason would

1973
01:46:29,560 --> 01:46:30,720
Speaker 1: you want to clone yourself, Eddie.

1974
01:46:31,000 --> 01:46:32,360
Speaker 2: There's a lot of reasons, Jake.

1975
01:46:33,160 --> 01:46:34,840
Speaker 1: Don't you, I mean, don't you want to be one

1976
01:46:34,880 --> 01:46:37,200
Speaker 1: of a kind? I would still be one of a kind.

1977
01:46:37,360 --> 01:46:39,639
Speaker 1: There wouldn't be other people out there. Well if you're

1978
01:46:39,680 --> 01:46:41,720
Speaker 1: not one of a kind, if you're cloning yourself.

1979
01:46:41,760 --> 01:46:43,080
Speaker 2: Well I am one of a kind because I'd be

1980
01:46:43,120 --> 01:46:44,479
Speaker 2: the only one that can clone myself.

1981
01:46:45,120 --> 01:46:47,160
Speaker 1: Can you imagine Scott having two people with a head

1982
01:46:47,200 --> 01:46:48,799
Speaker 1: that big, all on the same planet.

1983
01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:51,479
Speaker 4: Oh man, I'd go with you.

1984
01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:56,720
Speaker 1: Now, when I say this, you're going to think that

1985
01:46:56,800 --> 01:46:59,519
Speaker 1: I'm saying it for the tawd repurposes. And there are

1986
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:03,439
Speaker 1: todd benefit don't get me wrong, but I think one

1987
01:47:03,479 --> 01:47:05,400
Speaker 1: of them that's underrated. And I don't know if this

1988
01:47:05,479 --> 01:47:10,040
Speaker 1: is an actual superpower, but to make yourself invisible would

1989
01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:12,920
Speaker 1: be advantageous in numerous situations.

1990
01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:15,080
Speaker 4: Right, that would be a really good one too.

1991
01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:16,920
Speaker 1: I mean think about it, like, hey, do you have

1992
01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:19,400
Speaker 1: tickets to the game? I don't need them? Why swalk

1993
01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:22,280
Speaker 1: in right? Go wherever you are?

1994
01:47:23,800 --> 01:47:24,000
Speaker 3: Right?

1995
01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:31,240
Speaker 1: I mean the number of I mean unbelieved now, but

1996
01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:35,559
Speaker 1: if you're invisible, now this is a disclaimer here. Do

1997
01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:37,880
Speaker 1: you think you would also then have to. What if

1998
01:47:37,880 --> 01:47:40,720
Speaker 1: your clothes are not invisible but you are, then you're

1999
01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:43,599
Speaker 1: basically still busted. Right, it's gonna look weird. People canna

2000
01:47:43,600 --> 01:47:45,519
Speaker 1: see jeans just walking around, right.

2001
01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:49,439
Speaker 5: No, you have like the Harry Potter quote, so whatever

2002
01:47:49,560 --> 01:47:51,000
Speaker 5: was underneath it would be hidden.

2003
01:47:51,560 --> 01:47:54,600
Speaker 1: Okay, that's why I would it. I'm unfamiliar with the

2004
01:47:54,600 --> 01:47:55,559
Speaker 1: Harry Potter stuff.

2005
01:47:56,400 --> 01:47:57,240
Speaker 4: Just picture of cake.

2006
01:47:57,320 --> 01:47:59,800
Speaker 5: So whatever whatever is over your head and under the

2007
01:47:59,840 --> 01:48:01,440
Speaker 5: cake is invisible.

2008
01:48:01,800 --> 01:48:06,679
Speaker 1: But the so the cape is also invisible? Correct, because

2009
01:48:06,680 --> 01:48:08,360
Speaker 1: I don't know about you. If I'm sitting there, you know,

2010
01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:11,040
Speaker 1: on the subway, and a cape cart starts moving towards me,

2011
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:13,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like like there's gonna be

2012
01:48:13,920 --> 01:48:15,160
Speaker 1: I'm getting some weapons, right.

2013
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:18,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, that's a really good one though. So many usage.

2014
01:48:19,040 --> 01:48:23,200
Speaker 1: Who's your favorite superhero and you can't say Superman or Batman?

2015
01:48:24,040 --> 01:48:27,920
Speaker 4: Oh I'm not sure. It's always been Superman.

2016
01:48:28,160 --> 01:48:31,599
Speaker 1: I think the most under Eddie yours iron Man? Huh

2017
01:48:31,640 --> 01:48:34,240
Speaker 1: iron Man? Iron Man?

2018
01:48:34,439 --> 01:48:34,679
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2019
01:48:34,840 --> 01:48:39,320
Speaker 1: Okay, that's cool now mine, and I think he's underrated.

2020
01:48:39,360 --> 01:48:43,920
Speaker 1: This fella Aquaman. I think Aquaman's underrated. That'd be fun, yeah,

2021
01:48:44,120 --> 01:48:46,519
Speaker 1: be cool, right, But but everybody tells me that he's

2022
01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:49,040
Speaker 1: he's terrible on land. Is that true. I'm not into

2023
01:48:49,080 --> 01:48:51,559
Speaker 1: the superhero stuff, but I just think he's cool. I

2024
01:48:51,640 --> 01:48:53,519
Speaker 1: like anybody that's amphibious.

2025
01:48:54,040 --> 01:48:57,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, I think that'd be a good choice.

2026
01:48:57,600 --> 01:48:59,960
Speaker 1: Scott. What he got upcoming here on field House File,

2027
01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:05,400
Speaker 1: other than talking about amphibious things and invisible cloaks.

2028
01:49:04,040 --> 01:49:06,200
Speaker 5: Just a lot more looking ahead to the space of

2029
01:49:06,320 --> 01:49:08,840
Speaker 5: season with news and notes, and then also still a

2030
01:49:08,840 --> 01:49:10,600
Speaker 5: lot more to come out of the Fever season that

2031
01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:13,479
Speaker 5: headlined obviously with these collective bargaining.

2032
01:49:13,640 --> 01:49:16,560
Speaker 4: Hey, let me tell you conversations that aren't going anywhere.

2033
01:49:16,439 --> 01:49:21,040
Speaker 1: The collective bargaining stuff. And I was I was really

2034
01:49:21,080 --> 01:49:26,559
Speaker 1: grateful Scott for all of the conversations that Stephanie White

2035
01:49:26,600 --> 01:49:28,240
Speaker 1: was kind in us to have kind enough to have

2036
01:49:28,280 --> 01:49:30,759
Speaker 1: with us over the course of the season. The last

2037
01:49:30,800 --> 01:49:32,599
Speaker 1: one that we had with her when we were talking

2038
01:49:32,600 --> 01:49:36,280
Speaker 1: about Kitlin Clark and the wa NBA commissioner and she

2039
01:49:36,479 --> 01:49:38,439
Speaker 1: was saying that she feels like Katelin Clark is a

2040
01:49:38,479 --> 01:49:41,479
Speaker 1: pawn for other people. That I mean, that got a

2041
01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:44,519
Speaker 1: lot of traction. There is a lot of discussion because

2042
01:49:44,560 --> 01:49:47,760
Speaker 1: I think what you have is the WNBA right now

2043
01:49:48,479 --> 01:49:53,040
Speaker 1: still kind of trying to learn how to now navigate

2044
01:49:53,120 --> 01:49:56,880
Speaker 1: through with transcendent stars within its within its league.

2045
01:49:57,000 --> 01:50:00,280
Speaker 5: Right, this is an entirely new world for the and

2046
01:50:00,320 --> 01:50:02,720
Speaker 5: something that they were not prepared for because it did

2047
01:50:02,760 --> 01:50:05,680
Speaker 5: not exist, Like Cathy's talked about. When she arrived at

2048
01:50:05,680 --> 01:50:07,920
Speaker 5: the league, there was like one or two marketing execs.

2049
01:50:08,040 --> 01:50:10,639
Speaker 5: Now they have like twenty. Now they have all these

2050
01:50:10,640 --> 01:50:14,080
Speaker 5: different TV deals. Yeah, and she is certainly spearheaded a

2051
01:50:14,200 --> 01:50:17,960
Speaker 5: meaning Caitlin. And then we've seen the other class, this

2052
01:50:18,160 --> 01:50:21,960
Speaker 5: latest one page Backer's follow But no, Caitlyn is in

2053
01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:26,719
Speaker 5: a league of her own in terms of interest and such.

2054
01:50:26,880 --> 01:50:30,639
Speaker 5: I put her up there with Tiger, with mainly Tiger,

2055
01:50:30,760 --> 01:50:31,360
Speaker 5: maybe an MJ.

2056
01:50:31,800 --> 01:50:34,280
Speaker 1: She said, Williams, She said, Serena Williams. That was the

2057
01:50:34,320 --> 01:50:38,559
Speaker 1: other one that yeah, Yeah, Stephanie had mentioned to me

2058
01:50:39,800 --> 01:50:42,439
Speaker 1: Scott before we let you go. I the thing about

2059
01:50:42,439 --> 01:50:47,040
Speaker 1: the w NBA in general in Kitlyn Clark, there is

2060
01:50:47,120 --> 01:50:51,960
Speaker 1: no denying Caitlyn Clark's talent, star power, all of it, right,

2061
01:50:52,800 --> 01:50:56,320
Speaker 1: what I'm fascinated by. And it's a conversation probably more

2062
01:50:56,320 --> 01:50:59,400
Speaker 1: to be had once the season is getting ready to resume.

2063
01:51:00,520 --> 01:51:05,599
Speaker 1: But is it unfair of me to say that I

2064
01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:09,640
Speaker 1: am intrigued by how the fever reacclimate with her on

2065
01:51:09,680 --> 01:51:14,320
Speaker 1: the court because of out of necessity, the bond in

2066
01:51:14,360 --> 01:51:18,439
Speaker 1: which that roster was able to coagulate with one another

2067
01:51:18,520 --> 01:51:19,719
Speaker 1: without her on the floor.

2068
01:51:21,200 --> 01:51:24,519
Speaker 5: I would say that's partially fair because mostly because the

2069
01:51:24,560 --> 01:51:26,720
Speaker 5: reality is this team could look very different. There were

2070
01:51:26,760 --> 01:51:29,840
Speaker 5: only five returning players last year. Most of the league

2071
01:51:29,880 --> 01:51:33,639
Speaker 5: are free agents, Jake. There's expansion teams two coming in,

2072
01:51:34,160 --> 01:51:36,959
Speaker 5: so we still don't know how many players teams can protect.

2073
01:51:37,240 --> 01:51:39,639
Speaker 5: It is the wild, wild rest right now that nobody

2074
01:51:39,680 --> 01:51:43,000
Speaker 5: knows the rules or what's going to happen here. But

2075
01:51:43,280 --> 01:51:46,360
Speaker 5: I will say, to her credit, she was as involved

2076
01:51:46,360 --> 01:51:49,240
Speaker 5: as she could have been on the road for all

2077
01:51:49,320 --> 01:51:52,439
Speaker 5: but one game this season. She found routines with different

2078
01:51:52,479 --> 01:51:56,280
Speaker 5: teammates to stay engaged in such and they still tried

2079
01:51:56,320 --> 01:52:00,320
Speaker 5: to play fast and do different things. But yes, isn't

2080
01:52:00,520 --> 01:52:05,280
Speaker 5: certainly a period of reacclimating to her being the focal point.

2081
01:52:05,320 --> 01:52:08,280
Speaker 5: But I also bet she realized two of how best

2082
01:52:08,320 --> 01:52:11,800
Speaker 5: to utilize maybe my teammates even more to supercharge what

2083
01:52:11,840 --> 01:52:14,120
Speaker 5: they did this past season without her.

2084
01:52:14,720 --> 01:52:19,720
Speaker 1: Nick chimes in on the text that his desired superpower

2085
01:52:19,720 --> 01:52:24,439
Speaker 1: would be irresistibility to women. I don't know that's a

2086
01:52:24,439 --> 01:52:27,680
Speaker 1: superpower or not. I don't know that I would. To me,

2087
01:52:27,760 --> 01:52:28,720
Speaker 1: that feels redundant.

2088
01:52:30,040 --> 01:52:34,160
Speaker 5: Oh boy, I'm just saying, but what it's worth?

2089
01:52:34,360 --> 01:52:35,800
Speaker 1: All right, Scott, appreciate the time.

2090
01:52:35,840 --> 01:52:38,080
Speaker 4: It's always all right, Thanks Jake.

2091
01:52:37,880 --> 01:52:40,160
Speaker 1: Scott Agnes, field House Files, Eddie, anything you'd like to

2092
01:52:40,160 --> 01:52:40,559
Speaker 1: add there?

2093
01:52:41,720 --> 01:52:44,320
Speaker 2: I don't think does a great job with Fieldhouse Files.

2094
01:52:44,439 --> 01:52:44,760
Speaker 1: What's that?

2095
01:52:44,920 --> 01:52:47,439
Speaker 2: Scott Agnes does a great job with Fieldhouse Files. Make

2096
01:52:47,479 --> 01:52:48,719
Speaker 2: sure he's described him on YouTube.

2097
01:52:48,760 --> 01:52:51,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. What daily chore or task would you want to

2098
01:52:51,640 --> 01:52:52,479
Speaker 1: never have to do again?

2099
01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:56,759
Speaker 2: Oh? Laundry will that'd be number one. I love doing laundry.

2100
01:52:57,200 --> 01:52:59,200
Speaker 2: I just don't like all the time. You know, you

2101
01:52:59,240 --> 01:53:01,559
Speaker 2: got put in the Washington putting dryer, then you gotta

2102
01:53:01,560 --> 01:53:02,840
Speaker 2: put them what clothesway?

2103
01:53:02,960 --> 01:53:05,960
Speaker 1: I love it. The two things that I love doing

2104
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:08,519
Speaker 1: more than anything in the world are laundry and dishes.

2105
01:53:09,040 --> 01:53:10,680
Speaker 1: I love it, and dishes I don't have to do

2106
01:53:10,720 --> 01:53:12,439
Speaker 1: because I mean, I never eat at home. Maybe that's

2107
01:53:12,439 --> 01:53:15,080
Speaker 1: why I don't have to do them very often. But

2108
01:53:15,160 --> 01:53:19,280
Speaker 1: I love doing laundry. What about mowing the lawn? Do

2109
01:53:19,280 --> 01:53:21,640
Speaker 1: you like mowing the lawn? I do When I was

2110
01:53:21,680 --> 01:53:23,920
Speaker 1: a kid, I hated mowing the lawn because, like I

2111
01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:27,120
Speaker 1: would smell see, I would get like allergic, not allergic,

2112
01:53:27,160 --> 01:53:30,920
Speaker 1: but I would start sneezing uncontrollably by the grass clippings.

2113
01:53:31,680 --> 01:53:33,920
Speaker 1: But did you now let me ask you this. You know,

2114
01:53:33,960 --> 01:53:36,760
Speaker 1: you know what would be a great invention. A great

2115
01:53:36,800 --> 01:53:39,920
Speaker 1: invention would be some sort of a cleaner that gets

2116
01:53:39,920 --> 01:53:42,880
Speaker 1: that green. Because what shoes do you wear when you

2117
01:53:42,880 --> 01:53:43,400
Speaker 1: mow the lawn?

2118
01:53:43,479 --> 01:53:46,200
Speaker 2: I just wear some old shoes.

2119
01:53:45,960 --> 01:53:48,280
Speaker 1: That's it. Like you gotta wear the old ones, right, yeah,

2120
01:53:48,320 --> 01:53:51,280
Speaker 1: But aren't they uncomfortable because then they get like cakey

2121
01:53:51,400 --> 01:53:52,599
Speaker 1: and and you know what I mean.

2122
01:53:52,640 --> 01:53:54,719
Speaker 2: Eh, they're made for outdoors.

2123
01:53:54,720 --> 01:53:56,599
Speaker 1: So what about a shoe that's made for exactly that,

2124
01:53:56,760 --> 01:54:00,200
Speaker 1: your lawn mowing shoes? Just shoes like lightweight shoes are

2125
01:54:00,760 --> 01:54:03,679
Speaker 1: impermeable to the stain of the grass. It's called boots,

2126
01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:07,599
Speaker 1: but they're not like weight. I'm sure there are light weights.

2127
01:54:07,640 --> 01:54:09,360
Speaker 1: Yet in the summer, it's hot outside. I don't know,

2128
01:54:09,680 --> 01:54:11,040
Speaker 1: what are you walking around in? Waiters?

2129
01:54:11,439 --> 01:54:14,400
Speaker 2: Can you can wear like bunyan mow in your lawn?

2130
01:54:14,479 --> 01:54:15,679
Speaker 2: Could wear rain boots?

2131
01:54:15,760 --> 01:54:18,840
Speaker 1: Those are not rain boots. Rain boots are like knee

2132
01:54:18,920 --> 01:54:21,439
Speaker 1: high things with like, what are you like the Morton

2133
01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:24,720
Speaker 1: salt girl walking around mowing the lawn. It's got to

2134
01:54:24,760 --> 01:54:27,760
Speaker 1: be uncomfortable when it's hot out right, not really, you

2135
01:54:27,800 --> 01:54:30,519
Speaker 1: wear socks underneath them all the way up. You don't

2136
01:54:30,520 --> 01:54:32,760
Speaker 1: have cause then you start getting into the like chafing skin.

2137
01:54:32,800 --> 01:54:33,840
Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden you're getting in the

2138
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:38,640
Speaker 1: gold bond territory. I'm familiar with the gold walking around

2139
01:54:38,720 --> 01:54:40,920
Speaker 1: like you just got off the horse. You know what

2140
01:54:40,920 --> 01:54:43,920
Speaker 1: I'm talking You know what I'm talking about. At a

2141
01:54:43,960 --> 01:54:47,000
Speaker 1: buddy one time that was visiting his future in laws

2142
01:54:47,560 --> 01:54:49,400
Speaker 1: and then went golfing. He went golfing all day with

2143
01:54:49,440 --> 01:54:53,120
Speaker 1: his future father in law, went into the bathroom, realized

2144
01:54:53,160 --> 01:54:55,960
Speaker 1: that he needed let's just say, gold bond in the

2145
01:54:56,040 --> 01:54:59,720
Speaker 1: sensitive areas, and was like, you know what, like, I

2146
01:54:59,760 --> 01:55:04,160
Speaker 1: wonder her dad has some reaches in sees it. Puts

2147
01:55:04,200 --> 01:55:06,200
Speaker 1: it on and it was the gold bond foot powder

2148
01:55:06,440 --> 01:55:10,240
Speaker 1: knocked himself backwards, fell over. Scott everything okay in there,

2149
01:55:10,440 --> 01:55:13,240
Speaker 1: heything's fine, not good.

2150
01:55:13,240 --> 01:55:16,600
Speaker 2: You just out your friend there now.

2151
01:55:16,640 --> 01:55:19,000
Speaker 1: I didn't say his last name, although we typically didn't

2152
01:55:19,000 --> 01:55:22,960
Speaker 1: call him Scott, We just called him macconnell. Okay, we'll

2153
01:55:22,960 --> 01:55:26,640
Speaker 1: come back. You know what's interesting about the song? I

2154
01:55:26,680 --> 01:55:31,720
Speaker 1: believe I've asked this before? Can I ask it again? Sure?

2155
01:55:31,720 --> 01:55:35,120
Speaker 1: Thank you tell me that what if I said no,

2156
01:55:35,880 --> 01:55:38,080
Speaker 1: I was waiting for the lyric where they say yes,

2157
01:55:38,120 --> 01:55:39,880
Speaker 1: you can see I was setting that up? Or can

2158
01:55:39,920 --> 01:55:43,440
Speaker 1: I but go back to the very beginning of the song,

2159
01:55:44,120 --> 01:55:49,880
Speaker 1: like very yes at the very beginning? Okay? Right here?

2160
01:55:51,800 --> 01:55:56,800
Speaker 1: Is this the most sampled opening rift to a song

2161
01:55:59,280 --> 01:56:02,520
Speaker 1: of the last fifty years? Because when you play that,

2162
01:56:04,280 --> 01:56:06,840
Speaker 1: people in their car right now, depending how old they

2163
01:56:06,840 --> 01:56:11,240
Speaker 1: are or what generation they're from before that part kicks in,

2164
01:56:11,400 --> 01:56:13,600
Speaker 1: may think of that as being any of three different

2165
01:56:13,680 --> 01:56:19,920
Speaker 1: songs that I've always wondered that because you literally when

2166
01:56:19,960 --> 01:56:22,240
Speaker 1: it starts, you're like, no way, which version am I hearing?

2167
01:56:22,240 --> 01:56:22,400
Speaker 4: Here?

2168
01:56:22,440 --> 01:56:26,320
Speaker 1: Am I hearing? You know? The original? Am I hearing? Marky?

2169
01:56:26,440 --> 01:56:26,680
Speaker 6: Mark?

2170
01:56:26,760 --> 01:56:29,080
Speaker 1: Am I hearing? Try called quest on? And on and on?

2171
01:56:29,200 --> 01:56:31,280
Speaker 1: It's a great song, though the one you just played

2172
01:56:31,320 --> 01:56:32,680
Speaker 1: is a great so it might be actually the best

2173
01:56:32,720 --> 01:56:33,480
Speaker 1: version of them.

2174
01:56:33,360 --> 01:56:35,280
Speaker 2: Marky Mark in the Funky Bunch, Which song are you

2175
01:56:35,320 --> 01:56:35,840
Speaker 2: talking about?

2176
01:56:37,080 --> 01:56:41,120
Speaker 1: Uh? Pull up the wild Side by Mark hold On?

2177
01:56:42,520 --> 01:56:44,160
Speaker 1: Is it wild Side? See? If that's the name of

2178
01:56:44,160 --> 01:56:48,440
Speaker 1: the song from Marky Mark and the Funky bunch Yep. Okay,

2179
01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:51,040
Speaker 1: play that one in just second, and then obviously you've

2180
01:56:51,080 --> 01:56:56,400
Speaker 1: got the original right. And it's funny because once you

2181
01:56:56,440 --> 01:57:01,360
Speaker 1: start playing one in your head then becomes difficult to remember,

2182
01:57:01,480 --> 01:57:06,720
Speaker 1: like the way that the others go on. Obviously the

2183
01:57:07,120 --> 01:57:11,640
Speaker 1: it's lou Reid, right, the lou Reed version, the one

2184
01:57:11,680 --> 01:57:14,360
Speaker 1: I played. No, what you played was tribe called Quest.

2185
01:57:16,240 --> 01:57:18,400
Speaker 1: But see if you go ahead and play the did

2186
01:57:18,440 --> 01:57:21,440
Speaker 1: you find the Marky Mark version? Okay, here we go.

2187
01:57:25,200 --> 01:57:28,880
Speaker 1: See I've forgotten that he does this part here. He's

2188
01:57:28,920 --> 01:57:31,080
Speaker 1: got the track underneath it, right, I hear it a

2189
01:57:31,120 --> 01:57:33,440
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, well it's definitely there, but you hear

2190
01:57:33,440 --> 01:57:38,080
Speaker 1: the track underneath it. Now. The one of the most

2191
01:57:38,280 --> 01:57:43,520
Speaker 1: sampled songs of all time, apparently, or bits of all time,

2192
01:57:43,720 --> 01:57:49,480
Speaker 1: is there is a drum beat that is notably used

2193
01:57:49,480 --> 01:57:53,360
Speaker 1: from George Michael and I can't do it now because

2194
01:57:53,360 --> 01:57:58,840
Speaker 1: I've got that stuck in my head now. But there

2195
01:57:58,960 --> 01:58:01,520
Speaker 1: is a drum beat that you don't realize is used

2196
01:58:01,640 --> 01:58:04,520
Speaker 1: in like and I think it is a drum beat

2197
01:58:04,600 --> 01:58:12,680
Speaker 1: from not a Chuck Berry song, but it's been used

2198
01:58:12,720 --> 01:58:15,200
Speaker 1: in so many songs. You don't even realize. And of

2199
01:58:15,200 --> 01:58:17,680
Speaker 1: course now they can take anything and mix it up

2200
01:58:17,720 --> 01:58:21,680
Speaker 1: and AI it and generate it and whatever else. But

2201
01:58:21,720 --> 01:58:22,840
Speaker 1: we have breaking dudes.

2202
01:58:22,960 --> 01:58:27,280
Speaker 2: Any go ahead, you like how I time that Ebb

2203
01:58:27,360 --> 01:58:29,440
Speaker 2: Jake I did, I was really really well done on

2204
01:58:29,440 --> 01:58:32,160
Speaker 2: my part. The Colts have a kicker, Jake. The Colts

2205
01:58:32,320 --> 01:58:33,240
Speaker 2: officially have a kicker.

2206
01:58:33,440 --> 01:58:38,839
Speaker 1: I'm going to guess I have not heard yet today

2207
01:58:39,040 --> 01:58:44,960
Speaker 1: whether or not Buffalo has because their kicker, Tyler Bass

2208
01:58:45,080 --> 01:58:47,360
Speaker 1: is going is expected to come off of ir and

2209
01:58:47,400 --> 01:58:49,640
Speaker 1: when that takes place, I would assume that they are

2210
01:58:49,680 --> 01:58:54,919
Speaker 1: going to make available Matt Prater, but also the Colts.

2211
01:58:55,080 --> 01:58:58,760
Speaker 1: In my mind, there are two kickers that they've seemingly

2212
01:58:58,840 --> 01:59:01,280
Speaker 1: gone back to on a number of occasions in this

2213
01:59:01,360 --> 01:59:05,440
Speaker 1: situation mount extreme. One of them is Michael Badgley, who

2214
01:59:05,520 --> 01:59:13,600
Speaker 1: was available that I mentioned yesterday. And that's my prediction. Okay,

2215
01:59:14,040 --> 01:59:17,240
Speaker 1: So Michael Badgley, who when did he last kick for

2216
01:59:17,280 --> 01:59:17,760
Speaker 1: the Colts?

2217
01:59:17,800 --> 01:59:21,640
Speaker 2: He kicks for the Colts in twenty twenty one, played

2218
01:59:21,880 --> 01:59:24,600
Speaker 2: twelve games with Colts, eighteen of twenty one on field goals.

2219
01:59:25,280 --> 01:59:28,640
Speaker 2: He was six of seven thirty to thirty nine, eight

2220
01:59:28,640 --> 01:59:30,880
Speaker 2: of nine from forty to forty nine, missed his only

2221
01:59:31,720 --> 01:59:34,760
Speaker 2: attempt from fifty plus yards in his career, though he

2222
01:59:34,880 --> 01:59:39,960
Speaker 2: is five of thirteen north of fifty career long is

2223
01:59:40,080 --> 01:59:44,960
Speaker 2: fifty nine yards. He made that in twenty eighteen. I

2224
01:59:44,960 --> 01:59:46,840
Speaker 2: played in four gains and the Lions last year made

2225
01:59:46,880 --> 01:59:47,879
Speaker 2: all four field goals.

2226
01:59:48,240 --> 01:59:53,320
Speaker 1: To me, kicker is a position that or two years ago, sorry,

2227
01:59:57,080 --> 02:00:02,120
Speaker 1: there are if you have a top five kickers. What

2228
02:00:02,160 --> 02:00:08,040
Speaker 1: did the Colts learn of any franchise? None more so

2229
02:00:08,080 --> 02:00:15,320
Speaker 1: than the Colts have learned this. Kicking is a position

2230
02:00:17,120 --> 02:00:24,160
Speaker 1: that comes down really to three things. Mental and just

2231
02:00:24,200 --> 02:00:28,760
Speaker 1: like being on a hot streak, physical and not having

2232
02:00:28,880 --> 02:00:33,839
Speaker 1: any sort of injury to like either the hamstring or hip,

2233
02:00:34,800 --> 02:00:41,040
Speaker 1: and not getting caught up in certainly the first in

2234
02:00:41,080 --> 02:00:44,720
Speaker 1: this town there are three. I mean, sure, we can

2235
02:00:44,760 --> 02:00:46,960
Speaker 1: go back and talk about roll Alegra great, we can

2236
02:00:46,960 --> 02:00:52,640
Speaker 1: talk about Kerry Blanchard, great, But in this town there

2237
02:00:52,640 --> 02:00:56,320
Speaker 1: are three kickers that really jump out. Okay, you've obviously

2238
02:00:56,360 --> 02:00:59,400
Speaker 1: got Venitari. It goes without saying, and then you saw it.

2239
02:00:59,600 --> 02:01:02,640
Speaker 1: Once his body started to break what you break down,

2240
02:01:02,680 --> 02:01:07,560
Speaker 1: it was over. You've got vander Jat, who was the

2241
02:01:07,600 --> 02:01:09,480
Speaker 1: most accurate kicker in the history of the league. But

2242
02:01:09,800 --> 02:01:12,520
Speaker 1: when we had him on and I was stunned. And

2243
02:01:12,560 --> 02:01:17,120
Speaker 1: I've always appreciated his transparency, but when he admitted to

2244
02:01:17,160 --> 02:01:19,320
Speaker 1: the fact that once it started to go away, he

2245
02:01:19,360 --> 02:01:20,720
Speaker 1: was going out in the field and looking at the

2246
02:01:20,720 --> 02:01:22,240
Speaker 1: ball and he's like, I have no idea how to

2247
02:01:22,280 --> 02:01:25,840
Speaker 1: kick this thing. It was all mental. Once the mental

2248
02:01:25,840 --> 02:01:29,640
Speaker 1: aspect went away, he was like, I'm done, and he

2249
02:01:29,720 --> 02:01:32,480
Speaker 1: knew he was done. And then the third kicker, which

2250
02:01:32,520 --> 02:01:34,720
Speaker 1: is kind of the poster child of not getting too

2251
02:01:34,800 --> 02:01:38,560
Speaker 1: confident and not buying into or riding too long the

2252
02:01:38,600 --> 02:01:41,880
Speaker 1: hot streak of the mental aspect, and that's Matt Gay

2253
02:01:42,360 --> 02:01:45,640
Speaker 1: because the Colts went out and gave him the biggest

2254
02:01:45,720 --> 02:01:48,040
Speaker 1: kicker free agency contract in the history of the league.

2255
02:01:48,360 --> 02:01:52,480
Speaker 1: And he was a kicker that once it started to

2256
02:01:52,520 --> 02:01:54,080
Speaker 1: go awry for him, and I know he was a

2257
02:01:54,120 --> 02:01:56,520
Speaker 1: little dinged up, so he kind of part He kind

2258
02:01:56,520 --> 02:02:00,320
Speaker 1: of straddles both sides here of this. But remember Chris

2259
02:02:00,320 --> 02:02:02,400
Speaker 1: Ballard saying like, look, he's a good kicker. The guy's

2260
02:02:02,400 --> 02:02:06,400
Speaker 1: a good kicker, and they but then ultimately, you know,

2261
02:02:06,440 --> 02:02:09,200
Speaker 1: they make that change. They bring in Spencer Schrader, and

2262
02:02:09,280 --> 02:02:12,680
Speaker 1: he was kicking really well, and then obviously had no

2263
02:02:12,800 --> 02:02:15,600
Speaker 1: fault of his You have the injury. But Badgely is

2264
02:02:15,600 --> 02:02:18,600
Speaker 1: a guy that if he is on a hot streak,

2265
02:02:18,640 --> 02:02:21,320
Speaker 1: you roll with it. Man, you go with it. Just

2266
02:02:21,440 --> 02:02:25,640
Speaker 1: let it roll until you run out, and then you

2267
02:02:25,640 --> 02:02:29,960
Speaker 1: go out and you find another one. And I will

2268
02:02:29,960 --> 02:02:31,800
Speaker 1: be curious to see you can bet. I mean, the

2269
02:02:31,840 --> 02:02:34,160
Speaker 1: second he misses a forty two yard at Lucas Oil Stadium,

2270
02:02:34,160 --> 02:02:35,680
Speaker 1: they're going to be growans. But you can't blame the guy.

2271
02:02:35,720 --> 02:02:37,680
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a reason he was available in October.

2272
02:02:40,160 --> 02:02:43,240
Speaker 1: I wonder how many they brought in. Did it say no?

2273
02:02:44,840 --> 02:02:48,440
Speaker 1: Speaking of bringing in, we're bringing Greg Reikstraw in. He

2274
02:02:48,560 --> 02:02:51,600
Speaker 1: is in for JMV who is off today. We will

2275
02:02:51,600 --> 02:02:53,600
Speaker 1: talk to Greg, find out what he's got lined up

2276
02:02:53,640 --> 02:02:55,160
Speaker 1: and put a tie on all of it. You set

2277
02:02:55,200 --> 02:02:56,640
Speaker 1: up for the pacers tonight. We'll do it on the

2278
02:02:56,680 --> 02:03:01,400
Speaker 1: other side. So this is it right here, Betty. This

2279
02:03:01,600 --> 02:03:03,840
Speaker 1: is Waiting for that Day from George Michael, which I

2280
02:03:03,840 --> 02:03:07,360
Speaker 1: think is a fabulous song by the way, from Listening

2281
02:03:07,400 --> 02:03:11,840
Speaker 1: Without Prejudice and the drum line you hear there is

2282
02:03:11,960 --> 02:03:16,400
Speaker 1: funky drummer from James Brown and that is apparently one

2283
02:03:16,440 --> 02:03:20,760
Speaker 1: of the most sampled drumline sounds he speeds it up

2284
02:03:20,760 --> 02:03:23,960
Speaker 1: for this particular song, but that's what he used it in,

2285
02:03:24,000 --> 02:03:27,520
Speaker 1: and he mentioned the fact that in doing it he

2286
02:03:27,560 --> 02:03:29,560
Speaker 1: had heard a slower version of it, sped it up

2287
02:03:29,600 --> 02:03:33,520
Speaker 1: and went with that. Did I mention that I'm watching

2288
02:03:33,600 --> 02:03:36,800
Speaker 1: this show called Chad Powers.

2289
02:03:36,080 --> 02:03:38,200
Speaker 2: Only like a million times on Monday.

2290
02:03:38,280 --> 02:03:43,840
Speaker 1: So good show. What I didn't know is in it?

2291
02:03:44,800 --> 02:03:47,880
Speaker 1: There's there only I mean, I think the third episode

2292
02:03:48,320 --> 02:03:51,160
Speaker 1: came out at midnight last night. Whatever you want to

2293
02:03:51,160 --> 02:03:56,520
Speaker 1: say today. What I believe to be what's going to

2294
02:03:56,560 --> 02:04:00,600
Speaker 1: be the love interest of the main character is a female,

2295
02:04:01,000 --> 02:04:04,600
Speaker 1: is the actress, and she's married to Mark Sanchez. Now

2296
02:04:04,680 --> 02:04:07,760
Speaker 1: I'm guessing he has not seen yet episode three. I

2297
02:04:07,840 --> 02:04:10,480
Speaker 1: don't know that, but that's just a hunch. Been a

2298
02:04:10,480 --> 02:04:13,480
Speaker 1: little busy, Greg. Regstraw just walked in. He is in

2299
02:04:13,600 --> 02:04:17,000
Speaker 1: for JMV today and tomorrow. Is that right, Greg? That

2300
02:04:17,120 --> 02:04:17,800
Speaker 1: is correct? Sir?

2301
02:04:17,920 --> 02:04:20,280
Speaker 6: Is this officially Cross Talk present of my love Heating

2302
02:04:20,320 --> 02:04:20,720
Speaker 6: and Cooling?

2303
02:04:20,840 --> 02:04:23,800
Speaker 1: That is correct? Love dash HVC dot Com three one seven,

2304
02:04:23,800 --> 02:04:27,440
Speaker 1: three five one. Thank you for the tea up there.

2305
02:04:27,480 --> 02:04:29,080
Speaker 1: What's on the big program today?

2306
02:04:29,120 --> 02:04:32,680
Speaker 6: Greg Blalley Cox at three point thirty Drew Storing at

2307
02:04:32,680 --> 02:04:35,400
Speaker 6: four o'clock, Christen Are at four thirty, Uh.

2308
02:04:35,480 --> 02:04:38,040
Speaker 1: Pacers and Action tonight. We were talking about this the thing

2309
02:04:38,080 --> 02:04:41,520
Speaker 1: that most intrigues you about the Pacers tonight.

2310
02:04:42,480 --> 02:04:44,400
Speaker 6: I'm not sure if tonight will be the case because

2311
02:04:44,400 --> 02:04:47,800
Speaker 6: it's a preseason game, but obviously, big picture, when the

2312
02:04:47,840 --> 02:04:51,120
Speaker 6: season starts for real in sixteen days, how much do

2313
02:04:51,360 --> 02:04:54,040
Speaker 6: how much does this Pacer team look like last year's

2314
02:04:54,080 --> 02:04:57,880
Speaker 6: Pacer team with the obvious absence of Tyrese Haliburton and

2315
02:04:57,920 --> 02:04:58,520
Speaker 6: Miles Turn I.

2316
02:04:58,520 --> 02:05:00,800
Speaker 1: Specially just like in their pace, right, you know what

2317
02:05:00,880 --> 02:05:02,680
Speaker 1: I mean? The style that they're going to play. I mean,

2318
02:05:02,680 --> 02:05:04,200
Speaker 1: there's a number of things that go into it. We

2319
02:05:04,200 --> 02:05:06,360
Speaker 1: were talking earlier. Also, I want your thoughts on this.

2320
02:05:07,040 --> 02:05:09,440
Speaker 1: Greg is Greg Gregster. Of course you hear him on

2321
02:05:09,480 --> 02:05:13,800
Speaker 1: the postgame shows for Colts games. You know. I feel like,

2322
02:05:14,040 --> 02:05:16,640
Speaker 1: and look, I know that there are a number of

2323
02:05:16,800 --> 02:05:19,520
Speaker 1: factors that are different for this Colts team versus last

2324
02:05:19,560 --> 02:05:24,360
Speaker 1: Tyler Warren being one of them, notably, but Daniel Jones

2325
02:05:24,400 --> 02:05:28,640
Speaker 1: being the big one. But I feel like this year

2326
02:05:29,280 --> 02:05:32,480
Speaker 1: so far, in a couple of different ways, have shown

2327
02:05:32,560 --> 02:05:36,760
Speaker 1: the coaching maturation of Shane Steiken. Sure not only in

2328
02:05:36,880 --> 02:05:40,360
Speaker 1: the manner in which he is calling plays for Daniel Jones.

2329
02:05:40,400 --> 02:05:42,680
Speaker 1: And I think, as John and I talked about yesterday,

2330
02:05:43,320 --> 02:05:46,560
Speaker 1: there's reciprocity there as well, because Daniel Jones is able

2331
02:05:46,600 --> 02:05:48,680
Speaker 1: to do different things because of what's being played called

2332
02:05:48,680 --> 02:05:52,960
Speaker 1: by stike In. But the eighty Mitchell situation, Greg, I

2333
02:05:53,200 --> 02:05:55,600
Speaker 1: don't know that Shane Stikeen in year one or even

2334
02:05:55,680 --> 02:06:00,560
Speaker 1: year two does the discipline there of an eighty Mitchell

2335
02:06:00,800 --> 02:06:03,600
Speaker 1: or as he did the way he did it the

2336
02:06:03,640 --> 02:06:04,720
Speaker 1: other day. Am I off base?

2337
02:06:04,920 --> 02:06:04,960
Speaker 3: No?

2338
02:06:05,080 --> 02:06:06,160
Speaker 6: I think there's something to that.

2339
02:06:06,320 --> 02:06:06,560
Speaker 4: Now.

2340
02:06:06,800 --> 02:06:10,720
Speaker 6: Is it an apples to apples comparison, because obviously, amazingly

2341
02:06:11,320 --> 02:06:14,240
Speaker 6: this has happened twice in the last what eight competitive

2342
02:06:14,280 --> 02:06:19,520
Speaker 6: game vcults. But Jonavan Taylor has earned a bit more

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Speaker 6: of a mistake card than Adie Mitchell has.

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Speaker 1: Also plays a position where there's less depth and is

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Speaker 1: higher up on said chart anyway, right.

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Speaker 6: Correct says has five years of one of the best

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Speaker 6: players at his position versus hey, this guy has potential,

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Speaker 6: but as the fourth best receiver we have. And you

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Speaker 6: could argue how Ashton Dulan played maybe your fifth best

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Speaker 6: receiver because Ashton played so well so but yes, there

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Speaker 6: seems to be much more of an accountability factor. It's

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Speaker 6: been talked about. Every coach talks about things like this

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Speaker 6: and press conferences, but obviously it has been much more

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Speaker 6: on display so far this year.

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Speaker 1: You know, Taylor is interesting because he is a position

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Speaker 1: greg that there was a time and I'm as guilty

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Speaker 1: of this as anybody, there was a time of saying

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Speaker 1: it's great that the Colts have Jonathan Taylor, but like,

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Speaker 1: you don't win in the running back in today's NFL,

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Speaker 1: and it seems like that's kind of coming back to them.

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Speaker 6: I see where you're working in. Yes, the pendulum is

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Speaker 6: swinging back to that style of football in the National

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Speaker 6: Football Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean I noticed, you know last night, I thought

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence was really good last night. But the number

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Speaker 1: of games that I look towards now and then I

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Speaker 1: look afterwards at guys passing numbers, and you know, a

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Speaker 1: guy's throwing for one hundred and ninety eight yards, one

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Speaker 1: hundred and eighty five yards. You know, Joe Flacco today

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Speaker 1: just got traded to Cincinnati. He's probably gonna and he

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Speaker 1: has big weapons there, right, but he when he was here,

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Speaker 1: you know, one hundred and ninety five yard game. I

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Speaker 1: mean that was five years ago, that was unheard of

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Speaker 1: because everybody was towing for three fifty. It just seems

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Speaker 1: like the league because whether it's because of the way

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Speaker 1: it's being officiated or the way it's being called, it

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Speaker 1: feels cyclical.

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Speaker 6: I think to some degree it is also because of

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Speaker 6: the NFL game resembles a lot more of the college

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Speaker 6: game than it used to. There was always a line

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Speaker 6: of demarcation. You could run this style in college, you

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Speaker 6: cannot do the National Football League. And now seeming that

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Speaker 6: barrier is gone. And so perhaps your total yardage from

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Speaker 6: a quarterback position is still around three hundred and three fifty,

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Speaker 6: but now you are just as apt to get seventy

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Speaker 6: fifty to seventy five yards rushing from a quarterback. And

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Speaker 6: two D and.

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Speaker 1: Two last night, I mean both, you know, at one

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Speaker 1: point last night, I think both quarterbacks were leading their

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Speaker 1: team in rushing at one point last night in that game.

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Speaker 1: And then Lawrence ends up winning it in a crazy play,

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Speaker 1: but winning it on the ground, and you know, and

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Speaker 1: now they're tied with the Colts at four and one.

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Speaker 6: By the way, I have coined the play last night,

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Speaker 6: the stumble Rooskie.

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Speaker 1: Nice.

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Speaker 6: Thank you appreciate that as a guy's a guy that

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Speaker 6: is pretty witty on Twitter yourself.

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Speaker 1: I fear you would appreciate something, you know. Don't try

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Speaker 1: to trademarkret it, though, because it takes forever. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: why not Indiana?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: Yes, but man, it took forever. It took like a year.

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Speaker 1: Did you get that done? I was. I don't have

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Speaker 1: that sort of time. I'm super impressed by people that

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Speaker 1: have stuff trademarked a lot, because when I did that,

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Speaker 1: I thought it was just like, oh, this will be easy. Man.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of steps to that, a lot. All right, Greg.

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Speaker 1: Regstraw is in next for J and B. We'll be

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Speaker 1: back with you at noon. What's on the Big program tomorrow?

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Speaker 2: Eddie all recapping a first preseason game for the Pacers.

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Speaker 2: Maybe get Ralph refund like that, talk a little bit

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Speaker 2: about what he's seen from the Tigres Haliburn with him,

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Speaker 2: you know, shooting, where's he at that return? And the

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Speaker 2: Kelsey Mitchell situation from last week or two weeks ago

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02:09:46,040 --> 02:09:47,880
Speaker 2: now as well he can expand more on that.

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Speaker 1: All right, we will do it all tomorrow beginning at noon.

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Speaker 1: Greg is up Next, I thank you for listening to

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Speaker 1: Querying Company.