1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Why from the Heartland and the crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 2: On the table. 4 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 3: More discussions today, mister President. Are the territorial swaps on 5 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 3: the table? 6 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: Will you be discussing that? They'll be discussed. 7 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 4: But I've got to let Ukraine make that decision, and 8 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 4: I think they'll make a proper decision. But I'm not 9 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 4: here to negotiate for Ukraine. I'm here to get them 10 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 4: at a table, and I think you have two sides. Look, 11 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 4: Vladimir Putin wanted to take all of Ukraine. If I 12 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 4: wasn't president, he would right now be taking all of Ukraine. 13 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 2: But he's not going to do. 14 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 5: It until he thinks he can take all of Ukraine 15 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 5: because that is what he wants. We're not kidding ourselves here, 16 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 5: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you. 17 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 5: That's President Trump on the plane from Andrews A two 18 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 5: anchorage for this meeting with Vladimir Putin making the statements 19 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 5: on the plane. 20 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: Just one thing. 21 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 6: What about the postility that is the possibility of the United. 22 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: States providing security guarantees to. 23 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 4: Ukraineavy along with Europe in other countries, not in the 24 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 4: form of NATO because that's not gonna You know, there 25 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 4: are certain things that aren't going to happen, but yeah, 26 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 4: along with Europe, there's a possibility of them. 27 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 5: So not in terms of NATO or not in the 28 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 5: form of NATO means there isn't going to be a 29 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 5: peacekeeping force of twenty five thousand troops with guns pointed 30 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 5: at Russian skulls. That's what it means. That's what it means. 31 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 5: But we're the ones who from the very beginning said 32 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 5: wait a second, whoa, whoa, woa and whoa and hold 33 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 5: it and what up? And hey and listen, if we 34 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 5: are going to be having this wearer, this mineral rights 35 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 5: deal with Ukraine and and we're going to have US 36 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 5: investment in getting these rare so we're going to be 37 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 5: putting in the infrastructure everything else. We're going to protect it. 38 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 5: We're going to protect it. And the only way that 39 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 5: it gets protected is by guys with guns pointed at 40 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 5: people who might be an enemy. 41 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: Right. I mean, there's there's no other. 42 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 5: There's no other possible argument, is there, Because it doesn't 43 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 5: seem to me like there could be anything else you're 44 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 5: talking about. If we're not talking about NATO, and we're 45 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 5: talking about some level of force. I thought it would 46 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 5: be the people who are already protecting the American assets 47 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 5: and interest, which would yes set up huge problems for. 48 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 2: The Russians because what do they do now? Shoot at 49 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 2: our guys? 50 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 5: Oh oh oh, that's not gonna work out well, the 51 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 5: President continued. 52 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 3: I said earlier this meet that Bootwood fased severe consequences. 53 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: If you get the sense from him, if he's not interested. 54 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: What do you mean by that? 55 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 4: Economically severe? Yes, it will be very severe. I'm not 56 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 4: doing this for my health. Okay, I don't need it. 57 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 4: I'd like to focus on our country. But I'm doing 58 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 4: this to save a lot of lives. Yeah, very severe. 59 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 5: The one thing, there have been so many people all 60 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 5: pontificating and uh pushing. 61 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: Out their ideas. 62 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 5: Well, here's what's gonna happen in the meaning, and here's 63 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 5: what Trump's gonna do, and here's why Trump's wrong, and 64 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 5: Trump's gonna fall for this, and Trump's gonna do that. 65 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 5: These people don't know anything. These are the people who 66 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 5: told me that Kamala Harris was gonna win Iowa by 67 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 5: four points. Come on, they don't know what they're talking 68 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 5: about at all. 69 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: Here is what we know. 70 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 5: I'll give you the two things that we know that 71 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 5: you can take to the bank on this subject regarding 72 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 5: Russia and Ukraine, and we'll start with the basic one. 73 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 5: Russia did this. Russia's at fault, Vladimir Putin's at fault. 74 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 5: Ukraine is being attacked, Russia's the aggressor. Any other argument 75 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 5: is crazy. I'm happy to debate it. When I say 76 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 5: debate it, I mean I'm happy to tell someone that 77 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 5: they're wrong to make fun of their mother because the 78 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 5: facts are the facts. That is different than whether or 79 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 5: not we think that Ukraine as run by Vladimir Zelenski 80 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 5: is some great society. You don't see me raising my 81 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 5: hands saying absolutely. Man if I only lived in Ukraine, 82 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 5: it's not my argument. 83 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 2: Not in the slightest. 84 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 5: Russia is the aggressor here, and Russia is wrong, and 85 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 5: I believe in providing Ukraine with all the bullets. 86 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 2: And all the hardware to fight this fight. 87 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 5: What we know for sure is that Trump made a 88 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 5: promise and he really wants to live up to the promise. 89 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 5: The promise I'll end this war on day one. 90 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that did not come to be. 91 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 5: Then again, I would look at people who were taking 92 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 5: Trump at his word and be like, oh, yeah, day, 93 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 5: Why he's got into the day. 94 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: Why he's just gonna walk in office, he's gonna pick 95 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 2: up the phone. 96 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 5: Is you be like Indian, Now, I really got to 97 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 5: work on my impressions. They're just they're just not all right. 98 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 5: My Norm MacDonald not bad. But I'm not gonna do 99 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 5: Norm McDonald's president of the United States because that is 100 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 5: my secret dream. Rest his soul. He wants this end 101 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 5: and so he can say I ended it. 102 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: It matters to him in that regard. 103 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 5: Someone said the other day, I wanted that cable news 104 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 5: outlet's he's just you know, fishing for a for a 105 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 5: Nobel Prize, Nobel Peace Prize. There are worse things to 106 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 5: fish for. Let's say that's all he's after. He's after 107 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 5: a Nobel Peace Prize. There are worse things to aspire to, 108 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 5: worse things to have as a goal. Sean Combs aspired 109 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 5: to getting more baby oil. Trump wants world peace? Which one? 110 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 5: Which one do you think should be the one that 111 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 5: we tell our kids, Hey, you know what, it's all 112 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 5: right if you aspire to this, Should it be the 113 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 5: Nobel Peace Prize or more baby oil to rub on 114 00:06:49,720 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 5: the women you're sex trafficking. Which one he's prize baby 115 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 5: oil Peace prize, Baby Oil. 116 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: Peace prize by Oil. How long do you think I 117 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 2: could keep that up, Producer Landen? How long? 118 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 5: I think you could probably keep it up for probably 119 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 5: thirty more seconds. 120 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 2: You got you gotta let all the people get their 121 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 2: answers in. I could do it the whole show. Correct 122 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: answer is the entire show. 123 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 5: So there there is absolutely no doubt that he wants 124 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 5: to say promises made, promises kept. 125 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: The other one, the. 126 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 5: Place where Trump is not given enough credit at all, 127 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 5: he really can't take it. 128 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: And that's a. 129 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 5: That's not a dig when you think of everything that 130 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 5: as a human being he has had thrown. 131 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 2: At him and he has handled in these in. 132 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 5: These political uh in this political world since running for president, 133 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 5: all of the abuse, all of the hits, all of 134 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 5: the everything, and he comes out smiling and he's telling jokes. 135 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:19,239 Speaker 5: They shoot him and he stands up to yell fight, 136 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 5: fight fight. I mean, it's it is unbelievable stuff. I'm 137 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 5: telling you that the war stuff that I call it 138 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 5: war stuff, I don't mean to discount it like that. 139 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: War in general is not something he can fathom. He can't. 140 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 5: He cannot make it compute. It is clear that he 141 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 5: is able to move very quickly on a grand number 142 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 5: of subjects. 143 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: He can. 144 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 5: He can assess the situation and trust his gut, and 145 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 5: it has worked out very well for him. And where 146 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 5: it has it's he's engaged lawsuits and forced it to 147 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 5: work out for him. Like I'm honestly addressing the man, 148 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 5: I don't pretend something isn't when it is. He's clearly 149 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 5: got that in a way that few people do, or 150 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 5: at least the only people at. 151 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 2: That level do. He can't make the war stuff compute. 152 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 5: Why would you fight each other when you can just 153 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 5: trade with each other and make a couple of bucks. 154 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 5: Why are you doing this? He can't see it. The 155 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 5: historical context, context about land, context about culture, context about ethnicity, 156 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 5: he can't. 157 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 2: He cannot connect with it. And I am not. 158 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 5: Saying that's a bad thing, nor am I calling him 159 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 5: a fool or anything like that. I am saying that 160 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 5: it's real. In every person, they have things they can 161 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 5: do and things that they cannot. They have proclivities, things 162 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 5: that they have a skill, sex that they are adept with, 163 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 5: and things that simply are not. It's like saying I'm 164 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 5: very good at English. I'm terrible at mouth. People are 165 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 5: terrible at mouth, very good at English. Right, You've said 166 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 5: this a billion times about different things. 167 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 2: I'm telling you that he can't make. 168 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 5: It compute, and because he cannot understand why anybody would 169 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 5: do it to begin with, he's got to make it stop. 170 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 5: And as as much as there is a I'm the 171 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 5: guy who can he no way, I gotta say it differently. 172 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 5: He has to make it stop. And because of who 173 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 5: he is, he believes that he is the guy who 174 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 5: can make it stop just through sheer force of will. 175 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 5: I am I really off base with this kind of 176 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 5: understanding of the guy. I mean, are we the only 177 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 5: ones who ever actually breaking this down as to who 178 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 5: the man is? And a recognition that in the end 179 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 5: he's a human as the next person, and this is 180 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 5: the place that to his soul breaks him. 181 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 2: Can't see it. He can't figure out why anybody's doing this? Why? 182 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 5: What is wrong with you? There's no need for this. 183 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 5: Can't get him stop. That's my take on Trump and 184 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 5: War that at a molecular level, he can't believe anybody 185 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 5: would waste their time doing this and he has to 186 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 5: make it stop because he can't reconcile why it happens. 187 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 2: And then he wants to make. 188 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 5: It stop because he believes himself the man who can 189 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 5: make it stop. 190 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 2: I have been trying to put this together for a year, 191 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 2: and I think that's. 192 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 5: The first time I ever said it the way I 193 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 5: meant it, the way I play it in my head. 194 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 2: That's it. We'll see if I'm right. Meanwhile, the meeting's 195 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 2: going to happen today. 196 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 5: Everybody who's got a commentary leading up to the meeting 197 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 5: doesn't know what the hell they're talking about. 198 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 2: Let's see what comes out of it. 199 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 5: The only thing I would say is, no matter what 200 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 5: Putin agrees to, you can't actually believe he's going to 201 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 5: hold to stick to it. There has to be a 202 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 5: stick to go with the care. If there's not, it's 203 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 5: just a waste of time. Oh and you have to 204 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 5: be willing to swing the stick and hard. With that said, 205 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 5: let's see what happens. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony 206 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 5: kats today. Other countries calling to divide up property you 207 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 5: took in the Sixth Day War, that israelly property and 208 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 5: making it a state of people that want to kill you. 209 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 7: They used to say about Beirut, it is the ferries 210 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 7: of the Middle East. 211 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 2: Now Paris looks like the Middle East of Europe. 212 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 7: And I say to President Macron, to Prime Ministers Summer 213 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 7: and all of those wanting to establish a so called 214 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 7: Palestinian state, put it up in London, put it up 215 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 7: in Paris, in your countries, because we are not going 216 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 7: to reward the atrocities of October seventh, which is what 217 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 7: they do. 218 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 2: Fact, that is the fact. 219 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 5: That is a Mira Hamma, who is the speaker there 220 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 5: of the Kanesset right the Israeli Parliament, to the Israeli Congress, 221 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 5: however you. 222 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: Want to call it. 223 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 5: Being interviewed by Carl Higbee, who is in Israel this 224 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 5: past week, the idea of a state being in Paris 225 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 5: or in London. We should be clear, London in Paris 226 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 5: are falling, if they haven't already fallen. What they have 227 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 5: allowed in terms of their immigration issues, what they have 228 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 5: allowed regarding Islamists. Their appeasement of Islamists is flat out 229 00:13:59,320 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 5: of scene. 230 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 2: It's gross. 231 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 5: They will be destroyed for it, and it's going to 232 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 5: take force to move the Islamist out. Sorry, you can't 233 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 5: be here anymore. Oh, there's gonna be lawsuits and this 234 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 5: and that. 235 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 2: It's going to take force. I'm just telling you what 236 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 2: it's going to. 237 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 5: Take for all nations to remove the Islamis threat, including 238 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 5: the United States. It's going to be very difficult stuff, 239 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 5: heavy lift. But we are not going to reward the 240 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 5: atrocity of the atrocities of October seventh, which is what 241 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 5: they do. 242 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 2: That is accurate. 243 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 5: If we were willing to recognize a Palestinian state, you 244 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 5: support Hamas. Now that brings us to the Pete Buddha 245 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 5: Judge conversation and how he screwed up this interview on 246 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 5: Pod Save America because he is exactly what we. 247 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 2: Thought he was. 248 00:14:54,600 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 5: A smarmy, mealy mounted gross guy, will say anything to 249 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 5: be elected, but not bright. 250 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 2: I'll give you that Rhodes scholar nonsense. 251 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 5: Give me a guide from the streets every day of 252 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 5: the week and twice on Sundays. It's like when you're 253 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 5: you're getting into a family. If you know what I 254 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 5: mean by a family, I think that you know what 255 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 5: I mean. 256 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Can you can you hear me? Now? 257 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 2: So good? So good? Right there? 258 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 5: You reward October seventh your nuts. So Buddha Judge is 259 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 5: on this podcast and he won't really answer the question. 260 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 5: He wants to try and play both sides of the 261 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 5: fence until he's until everyone's like, my gosh, why don't 262 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 5: you just come out with an answer? Your so mealy mouthed, 263 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 5: And his answer is Israel bad? Right? He is exactly 264 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 5: what you thought he was, as is the whole Democratic Party. 265 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 5: No rational person rewards Hamas. You destroy Hamas. I don't 266 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 5: know about you. I'm on the side of Hamas's destruction, 267 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 5: Israel survival. 268 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 2: I know that puts me at odds. 269 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 5: With Tucker and Candace and Dave Smith, And honestly, oh, 270 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 5: screw them. 271 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 2: Like they in any way matter to me at all. 272 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 2: I hope they lose. They're wrong. 273 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 5: I want them to lose. I don't care how many 274 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 5: millions of people are listening. It's meaningless. They need to lose, 275 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 5: and they need to lose huge massive. It's a funny 276 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 5: thing about bea Root Lebanon, Paris of the Middle East, 277 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 5: man Beyroot. It's gorgeous that while Aarrea is just naturally 278 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 5: beautiful and it's just been ripped asunder by their own. 279 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 2: Inability to manage themselves. 280 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 5: I would like to see it be the quote unquote 281 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 5: Paris of the Middle East again. But I like the 282 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 5: talk here, I like the focus here. It doesn't matter 283 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 5: what these American liberals say, keep fighting, don't stop. 284 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 2: Ye And who is it that. 285 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 7: Praises them Hamas openly praises Macron, praises Prime Ministers Stummer. 286 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 2: Why is that? 287 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 7: Because in our region everyone gets the message hamaswe once 288 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 7: they recognize a Palestinian state, this was the goal, and 289 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 7: then Hamas one. 290 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 2: We're not going to let that happen. 291 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 7: And I'm very happy that America stands with us. 292 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 2: On that too. 293 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 7: And we heard Secretary of State Rubio saying it's going 294 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 7: to be very bad if other countries should recognize a 295 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 7: so called Palestinian state. 296 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 8: Now we had this debate. 297 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,719 Speaker 7: Let me tell you here in this country before October seventh, 298 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 7: I belong to the majority that was opposing the idea 299 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 7: of a so called Palestinian state, but we had a 300 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 7: significant minority supporting it. 301 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 8: This is no longer the case following October seventh. 302 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 7: Everyone understands that the message gets to Hamas. 303 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 9: That you have won and you are to be awarded 304 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 9: for the seven But This is not only a bad 305 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 9: message because of our origin, because it is. 306 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 2: He's right, it's a bad message. 307 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 5: Leftists love it, it's foreign nations love it. We have 308 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 5: a lot of work cut out for us. Rewarding terrorism 309 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 5: cannot work out well for anyone. That's the message. 310 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 2: Keep it here. This is Tony Cats Today. 311 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 5: Find everything at Tony CAATs dot com. 312 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 2: Absolutely just because what's it for a center for not 313 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 2: saying it? Very at miss william Us. What that's is this? 314 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 5: Wait, you don't speak Russian pity, Tony Kats, Tony Kats today. 315 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 2: Good to be with you. 316 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 5: That is a lab rough from Russia wearing a sweatshirt. 317 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 5: I kid you not that reads CCCP. 318 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 4: So. 319 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 2: We we kind of know where his head is. Good Lord, 320 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 2: Tony Kats, Tony Kats today, good to be with you. 321 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 5: Eight three three four six eight eight sixty six' nine 322 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 5: eight three Three Got. Tony that's how you get to 323 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 5: be part of the. Show labrov's, saying we never try 324 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 5: to anticipate the. Outcome our position is. CLEAR i don't 325 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 5: know what your position. Is what possibly is your is your? 326 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 5: Position Please vladimir don't kill, me because because THAT i 327 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 5: WOULD i would believe. 328 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 2: Then there is this this guy McLeod out Of South. 329 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 5: CAROLINA i think it's, clear but if you would there 330 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 5: a producier land and finger on the dumb. Button thank, 331 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 5: you thank you very. 332 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: Much good. 333 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 6: Morning WELL i didn't take, long you, KNOW i said 334 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 6: BEFORE i announced for go AND i did a letter 335 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 6: to the, voters and WHAT i share with everyone was 336 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 6: THAT i felt confident they would come for me BECAUSE 337 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 6: i am a threat to the, establishment which is by 338 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 6: partisan in the. 339 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 2: State by the, way, okay what is he talking? About 340 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 2: what is this man talking? About right? 341 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 5: Here we're talking about a guy by the last name of, McLeod, mullens. 342 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 5: McLeod it's not actually his first, name but go with. 343 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 4: It. 344 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 2: Here he. 345 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 5: Is The democratic candidate or The, yeah he's the Only 346 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 5: democratic candidate to announce for a run For South carolina. 347 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 5: Governor and he's being promoted by The democrats and he In, 348 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 5: may although nobody seemed to know it until just yesterday 349 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 5: he got. 350 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 2: Arrested BUT i shared with the. 351 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,959 Speaker 6: Voters that no matter how much they try to silence, 352 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 6: me no matter how much they tried to get me 353 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 6: out of this, race THAT i would not stand. DOWN 354 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 6: i made that commitment to you AND i told you 355 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 6: in that letter THAT i prepared my entire adult life 356 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 6: for what laz, Ahead, well this is the precise moment 357 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 6: THAT i was talking about in that. Letter this is 358 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 6: the precise MOMENT i prepared my entire adult life to. 359 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 2: Handle what is that? 360 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 5: Moment, well that moment Is mullens, McLeod democratic candidate for 361 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 5: governor In South, carolina sitting in the back of a 362 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 5: police car screaming racial slurs profanity in a one hour 363 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 5: rant where he, SAYS i Am, god. 364 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 2: Can't can't make it. Up it's it is. Insane this 365 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 2: whole thing, now it's not. 366 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 6: FUN i don't want you to think it's, fun because it's. 367 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 6: Not BUT i want you to know HOW i started 368 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 6: my day to. Day that's the way HOW i start 369 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 6: all my. DAYS i get up at six. Am the 370 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 6: first THING i do IS i get on my knees 371 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 6: AND i say the following, Prayer Dear, LORD i surrender 372 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 6: to this day to, you AS i swnder. 373 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 2: All the days to. Follow my only desire is to 374 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 2: be your. 375 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 6: Humble servant and fulfill your playing a purpose for my. 376 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 2: Life and THEN i get in a. 377 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 10: Shower THEN i take my son to. 378 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 6: SCHOOL i dropped him off at seven thirty AND i 379 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 6: was at my desk at seven forty. 380 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 2: Five today is a normal. Day it's not a normal. 381 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 5: Day South Carolina Democratic party putting out a Statement moms 382 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 5: McLeod is a skilled, attorney a Former County Democratic party 383 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 5: chair who worked tirelessly for our, values and a member 384 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 5: of a Proud Low country family with a long tradition 385 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 5: of public. Service after reviewing the transcript of the dashcam 386 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 5: footage from his reate and sent to, rest it is 387 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 5: clear that mister McLeod is navigating profound challenges and should 388 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 5: focus on his emotional and mental well being instead of 389 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 5: a campaign for. Governor we offer him compassion and pray 390 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 5: he finds the support he. 391 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 2: Needs. 392 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 5: Translation would you please get out of this? Race we 393 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 5: don't want. 394 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 2: This thank. You he's been preparing for this moment his whole. 395 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 2: Life that's. 396 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 5: That's something, else because you would have had to assume 397 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 5: that this moment was coming where you were caught on 398 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 5: camera SCREAMING i Am. God oh dimensional he was? Shirtless 399 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 5: DID i leave that? OUT i probably should have led with. 400 00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 5: It he was, shirtless without shirt was mister McLeod Wall 401 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 5: was he also without? PANTS i know he was without, 402 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 5: shirt BUT i do not know if he was Without 403 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 5: he possibly was also without, pants so that. Happened of, 404 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 5: course all the talk is about the, redistricting and you Have. 405 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 5: Democrats The democrats From texas were supposed to come back 406 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 5: and they haven't done it yet because they tried to 407 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 5: get a quorum once again and it did not come to. 408 00:25:54,640 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 5: Be and this brings us to some peace people trying 409 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 5: to see to push at the state Of. Indiana this 410 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 5: is a story About, Texas, California indiana and your. 411 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 2: STATE. Jd vance is The Vice president of The United. 412 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 5: States you've seen pictures and he showed up In indiana 413 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 5: had a meeting with the, Governor Mike, brown former, senator 414 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 5: and obstensibly that meeting was about. Redistricting there are nine 415 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 5: congressional districts in. 416 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 2: The state Of. Indiana seven of them are held By. 417 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 5: Republicans maybe you could do something about one of the other. 418 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 5: Two the main one is in the center of the, 419 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 5: state Where indianapolis. Is that's held By Congressman Andre, carson 420 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 5: who got the seat because his grandmother held the. Seat 421 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 5: Andre carson has never provided announce of value to the 422 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 5: people Of. Indianapolis no one can actually point to anything he's, done, 423 00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 5: except of, course Support Louis. Farrecunn the first is district 424 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 5: is held by a guy by the name Of Frank. 425 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 5: Mervan that is a district that you could move some 426 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 5: things around and give A republican a real shot. IN 427 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 5: i would tell you that the people Of, indiana who 428 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 5: we refer to ourselves ourselves as, hoosiers no appetite for doing. 429 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 5: This The republican party here has no appetite for. IT 430 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 5: i don't think the people had much of an appetite for. 431 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 5: It we have seven of the nine seats with The. 432 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 5: Republicans just leave it. Be this isn't the state for the. 433 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 5: Thing but in order to have that conversation you have 434 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 5: to understand of what it is we're seeing In. Texas 435 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 5: texas is trying to engage a mid decade. 436 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 2: Redistricting it's, rare but it. 437 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 5: Happens is it, Illegal absolutely. Not it is a political 438 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 5: process in so that if the people Of texas have 439 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 5: an issue with, it they could vote out the people 440 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 5: who engage the. Redistricting The democrats flee To illinois because 441 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 5: they refuse to actually engage and lose a, vote so 442 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 5: they say screw, democracy even though they always claim something 443 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 5: else is a threat to. 444 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 2: Democracy this is a huge part of what they do 445 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 2: with the, projection. 446 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 5: And others have gotten into the, mix Including california And Gavin, 447 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 5: newsom who has stated that If texas goes about this, 448 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 5: Redistricting california is going to do the, same or we're 449 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 5: going to eliminate Five republican. Seats, NOW i would put 450 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 5: forth to you that they're going to do that, anyway it's. 451 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 5: Coming he didn't say it as a. 452 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 2: Threat he did it because he's going to do. 453 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 5: It but why would that statement from the governor Of 454 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 5: california get me to now say To Indiana, republicans what 455 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 5: are you doing go about Redistrictingblic not every state is the, 456 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 5: same not Every republican party is the. Same And republicans 457 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 5: In indiana are. Strange WHEN i say, strange the super 458 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 5: majority massive massive numbers in The State house and in 459 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 5: The State, senate massive numbers so much so THAT i 460 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 5: think it makes them. Lazy they get way too, comfortable 461 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 5: way too, comfortable and in doing, so they do not have, 462 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 5: Boldness they do not have vision at, all none less than. 463 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 5: None their immediate reaction to, this to this redistricting In 464 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 5: indiana is, now it's not for. Us What Gavin newsom 465 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 5: is doing is. Retribution What texas is doing is a political. 466 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 5: Process in the state Of. Texas there are progressives who 467 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 5: refuse to understand. This, well if you do, this we'll do. That, 468 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 5: whoa that's an issue for the state Of. Texas why 469 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 5: Is california doing anything regarding what the state Of texas is. 470 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 5: Doing handle your own damn. Business you're going to engage in. 471 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 5: Retribution you can disagree With, texas but they're doing something that's. 472 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 5: Legal you say that that's, wrong and your answer, is, 473 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 5: well If texas does, it we're going to do it. 474 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 5: Too you're taking out your political anger on the people 475 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 5: Of california because you don't like What texas is, doing 476 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 5: and you're not Giving texans the chance to take it 477 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 5: out on their elected. OFFICIALS i cannot get progressives to 478 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 5: understand what it is they're. Doing they favor. Retribution so 479 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 5: my response is if this is what the left is 480 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 5: going to, do if they do, this well then all 481 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 5: bets are. Off this is how we have to fight 482 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 5: redistrict don't allow A democrat to hold a congressional seat 483 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 5: in the state Of indiana and don't let any red 484 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 5: state allow A democrat to hold a seat. 485 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 2: Anywhere this is the way it's going to. 486 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 4: Be. 487 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 5: Now they can't under they can't do the mouth because 488 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 5: they're purposefully. Obtuse texas is engaged in a political process 489 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 5: and another state was doing is it would be a 490 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 5: political process that we'd be opposed to. 491 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 2: It you're now going to, say, well if you do, 492 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 2: this we'll do. That that's. 493 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 5: Retribution and if that's the game you want to, play 494 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 5: that game is going to get played all across the. 495 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 5: Country just happy to kind of spell that out for. 496 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 5: Everybody this Is Tony katz. Today so why do the 497 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 5: fact checkers always get it? Wrong it could have something 498 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 5: to do with the fact that checking the facts is 499 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 5: not what a fact checker. Does Tony, Katz Tony katz, 500 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 5: Today good to be with. You it's just what they call. 501 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 5: That they call it fact, checker like they call It 502 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 5: Central Intelligence. Agency when's the last time THE cia got anything? 503 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 9: Right? 504 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 5: What, yeah, listen IF i get, disappeared you'll know it wasn't. 505 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,479 Speaker 5: Me and and if you See Hillary, CLINTON i did 506 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 5: not kill. MYSELF i am not. Suicidal thank, You thank 507 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 5: you very. Much Tony. Katz what's going? 508 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 2: On this was over at the editors dot. 509 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 5: Com Washington post fact checker was completely wrong On Wuhan laveley. 510 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 5: Headline he, says, yeah we. Know he, SAYS i screwed. 511 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 5: UP i was completely, wrong speaking of what he called 512 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 5: his infinite. Regret you were not wrong because you were 513 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 5: wrong because people can be. Wrong you were wrong because 514 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 5: you needed to be. Wrong you were wrong because you 515 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 5: were dishonest with. Yourself AND i am curious whether or 516 00:32:54,880 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 5: not he is aware of. This you were wrong ABOUT 517 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 5: covid and a host of other things because you refuse 518 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 5: to be honest about what it was that was happening 519 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 5: to you. 520 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 2: Around, you with your fellow travelers in the political, left. 521 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 5: Or at least those that you were surrounded by in 522 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 5: the political, left which is everybody that you were surrounded. 523 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 5: By that's that happens. EVERYWHERE i, mean that story is 524 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 5: now a standard. Story it is not that you got 525 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 5: the story. Wrong it's Like Jake tapper, saying, Man Joe. 526 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 2: Biden was really in a bad. WAY i had no. 527 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 5: Idea of course you. Did you just wouldn't report on. 528 00:33:55,400 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 5: It you wouldn't do anything about. It you refused to 529 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 5: do your job because that meant running a foul of 530 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 5: the people. 531 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 2: You do your job. With that's just the. Facts And 532 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 2: i'm not even. 533 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 5: Talking about running a foul of the leadership or the 534 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 5: ownership OF. Cnn i'm talking about some segment. Producer you 535 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 5: didn't want to run a foul of him or her 536 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 5: or they, them so you, Didn't and then you have 537 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 5: the audacity to tell, us man That Joe, biden he's 538 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 5: not so super sharp in the brain. Parts i'm going 539 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 5: to write a book now and make bank that's what this. 540 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 5: Is so when you tell us that you got it 541 00:34:51,760 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 5: wrong ABOUT covid, nineteen no one's. Shot you got it completely. 542 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 5: Wrong you meant to get it. Wrong, now if he 543 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 5: wants to tell me that it wasn't the, Case i'll, 544 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 5: say all, right if you want to believe, that that's. 545 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 5: Fine but the rest of us. 546 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 2: Kind of see it the way it. Is this Is 547 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 2: Tony katz, Today. 548 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: Why from The hartland and The crossroads Of. America It's 549 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: Tony katz today. 550 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 3: For discussions, today Mister, president are the territorial swamps on the? 551 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 3: Table will you be discussing? 552 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 2: That they'll be. 553 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,760 Speaker 4: Discussed But i've got to Let ukraine make that, decision 554 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 4: AND i think they'll make a proper. Decision But i'm 555 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 4: not here to negotiate For. Ukraine i'm here to get 556 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 4: them at a, table AND i think you have two. Sides, 557 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 4: Look Vladimir putin wanted to take all Of. Ukraine IF 558 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 4: i wasn't, president he would right now be taking all Of. 559 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 2: Ukraine but he's not going to do. 560 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 5: It, well he still wants, it and he's only not 561 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 5: going to do it because he might not have the 562 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 5: capacity to do it just, yet with what everybody who's 563 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 5: been killed and be he might not do it because 564 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 5: he's waiting to see what he can get now and wait. 565 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 2: A couple of years and then go back at. It 566 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 2: but he wants. 567 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,439 Speaker 5: It of, this there is no doubt in my. Mind Tony, 568 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 5: Katz Tony kats, today what is going? On everybody good. 569 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 2: To be with. You you'll Have, Trump you'll Have, Putin 570 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 2: you'll have the big meeting In. 571 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,720 Speaker 5: ANCHORAGE i will get to more of that because everybody 572 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 5: wants to play. There you, know here's what's going to, 573 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 5: Happen here's what it all. Means my, gosh you, know 574 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 5: these people don't know. Anything they're just so desperate to fill. 575 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,840 Speaker 5: Time on cable news or anything. Else they have no 576 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 5: idea what it all. Means BUT i know that it 577 00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 5: is A, friday and that means an audio dump. 578 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 2: On this feel Good. Friday it's no time for, It 579 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 2: Tony katz audio? Dump do you hear? Yourself go? Down my? 580 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 2: God this is so. Awesome, yes she always. Does pocahontas 581 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,919 Speaker 2: always says. Yes that's what makes it all so. Fine, 582 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 2: OH i have got so much stuff for you the 583 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 2: first so much good. STUFF i don't know where to. 584 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 2: Start how about With Gavin newsom telling the country to 585 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 2: wake up. 586 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 8: Everything you know About Donald Trump's, america and that was top. 587 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 8: Down you know that for a. Fact they'll deny. It 588 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 8: i'm sure maybe they won't deny. 589 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 11: It said everything you know about the authoritarian tendencies of 590 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 11: The president of The United. STATES i said in a 591 00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 11: moment to wake Up, america wake, up not have a. 592 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 11: Country if he rigs this, election you will have a 593 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 11: president will be running for a third. 594 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 8: Term mark my. WORD i wasn't exaggerating WHEN i said 595 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 8: THAT i. 596 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 11: Received in the mail At trump twenty twenty eight hat 597 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 11: from one of his biggest. 598 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 8: Supporters these guys are not screwing around the rules do 599 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 8: not apply to. 600 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 5: Him maybe somebody was just trolling. You maybe maybe that was. 601 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 5: IT i think the troll is that they sent you a. 602 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,800 Speaker 5: Hat since when would you wear a? Hat what with 603 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 5: all that palmade no, chance no. 604 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 2: Way AND i say this as a guy who really 605 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 2: likes my. 606 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 5: Hair he's not running in twenty twenty. Eight this is 607 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 5: weird stuff to talk, about weird stuff to get. Into 608 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 5: but wake, Up. America you will not have a country 609 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,760 Speaker 5: if he rigs this. ELECTION i thought you weren't allowed 610 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 5: to talk about rigging. Elections now it's all the left. 611 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 5: Does first you talk about how A trump's a threat to, 612 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 5: Democracy trump's a threat to. Democracy you finally get a 613 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 5: couple of b at least one to shoot at, him 614 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 5: one to try and shoot at. Him but you're, like, 615 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 5: wait that's not, enough so you're back at. It, okay, 616 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:17,240 Speaker 5: Okay governor palmad, Himself Gavin. Newsom but that's like the predictable, stuff, 617 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,320 Speaker 5: right that's the everyday. Stuff then, there's of course this 618 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 5: everyday stuff where you've got the pastor. 619 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,320 Speaker 2: WHO i love. It he's referred to as an, impastor 620 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 2: like an. Impostor that's, very very. Done the of the 621 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 2: whatever the church is that likes to show off the 622 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 2: gay pride. Flag how queer Was? Jesus how queer was? He? 623 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 6: Oh? 624 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 2: Wait was? That was that not the? Joke was that 625 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 2: not the? 626 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 7: Thing we? 627 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 2: Were this wasn't match? 628 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:52,359 Speaker 4: Game? 629 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 2: Ah OH i got it all. WRONG i got. No 630 00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 2: this guy just is trying to u Tell christians that 631 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 2: everything they believe is not a. Thing how queer Was? 632 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 2: Jesus he was an Observant, jew but he was thirty years, 633 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 2: old no, wife no, job hung out with twelve other. 634 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 5: Dudes that's pretty. Queer my, gosh the hate doesn't. Stop 635 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,320 Speaker 5: it's just there is no place for, it of, course 636 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 5: but it doesn't. Stop and AND i, wonder you, KNOW 637 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 5: i look at it maybe outsider looking in, Right I'm, 638 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,800 Speaker 5: jewish And i've seen far too much progressivism In. Judaism 639 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 5: certainly Reform, judaism Reconstructionist. Judaism these things have pushed me 640 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,320 Speaker 5: away from. Synagogues they have pushed me away from. Religion 641 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 5: it's just all political all the. Time, no this is 642 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 5: this isn't like some type of interesting thought. Process this is. 643 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 5: Madness this Is, hey how CAN i pretend and hate 644 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:10,280 Speaker 5: you all at the same? Time DO i think there's room. 645 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:11,320 Speaker 2: For people who are gay in. 646 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 5: Religion, well ABSOLUTELY i do. DO i think we should 647 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,360 Speaker 5: be looking at that and, saying you, know that's. Hateful 648 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 5: you know what you're doing is. Hateful it's performance art to. 649 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 2: You it isn't. SERIOUSNESS i. 650 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 5: There's a part of me that, wonders how COME i 651 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 5: don't hear more of that From. Christians but it's Possible 652 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,320 Speaker 5: i'm not listening in the right. Spots it's possible that 653 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 5: they just have a different view of how to approach. 654 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 5: It it isn't that level of public. Domain it's possible 655 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 5: that they're not belonging to those churches, anyway so it 656 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:46,879 Speaker 5: doesn't matter. 657 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,760 Speaker 2: Right so so my statement of how come. 658 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 5: It might have it's a very very simple, answer which 659 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 5: ANYTHING i just said might be one of those. 660 00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 2: Answers but that is performance. Art that is an ugly 661 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:01,320 Speaker 2: thing to. 662 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 5: Do it's A christians right there to which the people 663 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 5: engage in the performance art don't care what ugly thing 664 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,479 Speaker 5: they do To. Christians they just don't speak to somebody 665 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 5: who doesn't care what they do to. Society zaron Mom 666 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:18,800 Speaker 5: donnie the socialist and A communists running for mayor In 667 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 5: New york every time we hear a story about a 668 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 5: city run or a state run a grocery, store it 669 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 5: ends with. Failure Kansas, city other. Places they've all tried. 670 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 2: This it doesn't. 671 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 5: Work cities can't run grocery. Stores they cannot figure out 672 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 5: how to plow the, streets pick up the, trash or 673 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 5: keep the streets safe for the people and for the 674 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,280 Speaker 5: people who owned businesses like grocery. Stores they can't run grocery. 675 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 5: Stores government can't run anything on a one percent. Margin 676 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 5: don't be, crazy but he's still defending. 677 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 12: This i've actually spoken with a number of grocery store 678 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 12: owners and made clear to them THAT i both recognize 679 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 12: and appreciate the work that they have, done the fact 680 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 12: that they are a critical part of our, communities and 681 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,839 Speaker 12: there's so much partnership that we can still offer those 682 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 12: same stores in assisting them on the skyrocketing rents that 683 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 12: they are, facing the questions of, insurance so much of 684 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 12: that which creates instability in their business, model while also 685 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,760 Speaker 12: ensuring we're using every tool at our disposal to create 686 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:23,880 Speaker 12: a more affordable city For New. 687 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 2: York, yeah dear, lord would you want to be a 688 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 2: partner with that? 689 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,279 Speaker 5: Guy or maybe maybe better, said what if you don't 690 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,399 Speaker 5: have a choice but be a partner with that. Guy 691 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:43,240 Speaker 5: that's a nice supermarket you got there be a shame 692 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:48,800 Speaker 5: something happened to. It ALL i know is when a 693 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,800 Speaker 5: guy like that becomes your partner in the, store the 694 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 5: next thing you, know everything's sold out the back door 695 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 5: and you're trying to find ways to light the place on. 696 00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 5: FIRE i have seen goodfellow ladies and GENTLEMEN i know 697 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 5: from WHENCE i. Speak he wants to be a. Partner 698 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 5: do what we. 699 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 2: Tell you to do or you lose your. Business is 700 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 2: not a. 701 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:17,840 Speaker 5: Partner ukraine has said they want The United states to 702 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 5: be a, partner but ON cnn they're not making. 703 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 2: An argument for that now are. 704 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 5: They this is who is this a member of The 705 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 5: ukrainian parliament right here where the question is do you 706 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 5: Think trump can bring an end to the? 707 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 2: War, Hi, kate and thank you so much for having. 708 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 13: Me, well we want to think that here on the 709 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,880 Speaker 13: ground because for us a lot in the, Stake but 710 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 13: also we do not quite believe that the diplomatic solution 711 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 13: is possible here and. 712 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,279 Speaker 8: We have been saying this since the day. 713 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 2: One until you, know. 714 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 14: What is the way to make sure That putin will 715 00:44:58,280 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 14: keep his part of the. 716 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 2: Bargain you cannot get to the table with. 717 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 14: Him and what we see right now it is still 718 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 14: unclear what security guarantees can be presented To. Ukraine and 719 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 14: instead there is a hope that Put in somehow. 720 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 2: Will want to end the. 721 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,280 Speaker 14: War, however there has not been a single fact uptil 722 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 14: right now that would confirm that he wants to end the, 723 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,360 Speaker 14: one that he's ready to end the. War he continues 724 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 14: attacking our. Cities there is still push on the front, 725 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,399 Speaker 14: line and the air raid siren In kiev went off 726 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:31,720 Speaker 14: just a couple of hours. 727 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:37,279 Speaker 5: Ago NOW i agree with the basic tenant of how 728 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 5: would you trust a deal With Vladimir? PUTIN i agree 729 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:47,840 Speaker 5: that he is absolutely, untrustworthy but the idea of we 730 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 5: do not quite believe that the diplomatic solution is. 731 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,320 Speaker 2: Possible this is once again. 732 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,759 Speaker 5: The ukrainian saying the only way to win this is 733 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,360 Speaker 5: to fight and to destroy The. Russians and that's Why america. 734 00:45:59,080 --> 00:45:59,799 Speaker 4: You have to. 735 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:02,759 Speaker 2: Now listen to me. 736 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,360 Speaker 5: Carefully this is WHY i have made the statement THAT 737 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 5: i don't see how they're not going to give up. 738 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 5: LAND i don't see how it happens because The United 739 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 5: states has not shown any appetite for a war. Footing 740 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 5: neither HAS nato in the sense of troops on. Ground 741 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:23,759 Speaker 5: And i'll get more into, this but every time The ukrainians, 742 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 5: speak they put out this kind of, message and that 743 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:35,760 Speaker 5: message is you need to fight this with, us you need. 744 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 2: To die with. Us trump is not that, Guy he's 745 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 2: not that. 746 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:49,279 Speaker 5: Dude he is not. Interested he's Not he wants to 747 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 5: see if that it can be done other, ways if 748 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 5: other leverage can be. APPLIED i think it's acceptable to 749 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 5: ask what that leverage. 750 00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 4: Is. 751 00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,360 Speaker 5: WELL i think that's part of what this meeting. Is 752 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 5: trump is a, guy what he wants to size him. 753 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 5: UP i know he's met him, before BUT i think 754 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 5: that's a little bit of. It but every time The ukrainians. 755 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 2: Talk it is you have to, do you have to, 756 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 2: provide you have to do, this you. 757 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 5: Man i'm just telling. You it wears, Thin but nothing 758 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:31,239 Speaker 5: wears more thin than the daughter Of Doug, emhoff the 759 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 5: stepdaughter Of Kamala, harris WHO i was once told That 760 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 5: Kamala harris's stepdaughter is the most beautiful person in the. 761 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 2: World do you remember That ella M. Hoff ella M 762 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 2: hoff is the most beautiful person in the. 763 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,720 Speaker 5: World you, know she is both An american artist and fashion. 764 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,520 Speaker 5: DESIGNER i don't, know and so What wikipedia, says. 765 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 2: So let's go with. IT i have heard this, many 766 00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:58,359 Speaker 2: many times. 767 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:05,360 Speaker 5: That Somehow Ella mhoff is a fashion icon or attractive. 768 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,880 Speaker 2: Harleive that's. Others i'm standing over. Here i'm just sitting 769 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,719 Speaker 2: on my. TEA i got nothing. Booboo WHAT i do 770 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,480 Speaker 2: know is that she is not mentally. 771 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,360 Speaker 5: Well if she's saying that she's having a bad go 772 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:23,319 Speaker 5: of things because of the, CLIMATE i. 773 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:28,640 Speaker 8: Think everything with the environment is really getting to. 774 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 4: Me and it is. 775 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,239 Speaker 8: ONE i experience a lot of climate, anxiety like a 776 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 8: lot of us. 777 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 2: Do it's not. 778 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 8: Funny it's just like it's one of those. 779 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 2: Things it's not, funny but it's very. 780 00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,800 Speaker 5: Funny it's very. Funny if you're a grown woman you 781 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 5: have climate, anxiety it's very. Funny if you allow yourself 782 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,839 Speaker 5: to buy in to that insanity and let it take 783 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,560 Speaker 5: hold of, you you're, right in no. Way it's not, 784 00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,080 Speaker 5: Funny my, god is it? Ugly and you have to 785 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,680 Speaker 5: raise your children to be stronger than, that stronger and. 786 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,319 Speaker 5: Smarter you can want to. 787 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,759 Speaker 2: Protect the, environment you can want to do well by the. 788 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 5: Environment you could, say we're not going to burn tires 789 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,800 Speaker 5: in the middle of the, road and you don't have 790 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,480 Speaker 5: to live in. Fear the left is desperate to get 791 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,120 Speaker 5: you to live in. Fear she's having a hard time 792 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 5: with climate. Anxiety she should not be allowed to operate a. 793 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,879 Speaker 5: Vehicle she shouldn't be allowed to drive a. Car she's 794 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:27,120 Speaker 5: not mentally stable. Enough that's, madness. 795 00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:28,759 Speaker 4: That is. 796 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:34,800 Speaker 5: Daft my kids would laugh at, her and they would be, 797 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:36,600 Speaker 5: right and she would, say you can't laugh at. 798 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 2: Me how dare? You i'm gonna assue if my kids 799 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:39,120 Speaker 2: would laugh? 800 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:44,560 Speaker 5: Harder, OH i think on that ONE i raised them, 801 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,279 Speaker 5: right or REALLY i provided the environment where they were 802 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 5: able to see things with their own, eyes. 803 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:54,920 Speaker 2: Which is really WHAT i. HOPE i do not know about. 804 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,880 Speaker 5: You you, know people you know will, say you know 805 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:02,239 Speaker 5: your kids are reflection you and they kids are, great and, 806 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 5: look you must have done such a great. Job you 807 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,080 Speaker 5: did such a great. JOB i don't know if any 808 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,040 Speaker 5: of that is. TRUE i think they did a great. 809 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:14,719 Speaker 5: JOB i think they are the ones who came to 810 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,960 Speaker 5: this place of who they, are how they see the 811 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 5: world being open still to, things knowing that they're, young 812 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:24,320 Speaker 5: enough that they have still plenty to. LEARN i don't 813 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,000 Speaker 5: think it was the way they were, raised you, know 814 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,560 Speaker 5: like LIKE i did some magic thing or my wife 815 00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,400 Speaker 5: did a magic, thing although my, Wife i'm, positive has 816 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:38,920 Speaker 5: done numerous magical. Things but, RATHER i would hope that 817 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:45,400 Speaker 5: what we provided were the conditions for thoughts to occur 818 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:50,040 Speaker 5: and understandings to, occur and they understand. 819 00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:51,320 Speaker 2: That this WOMAN. 820 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:56,480 Speaker 5: L mhoff is nuts and they, think my, GOD i 821 00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:02,320 Speaker 5: never want to be that ridiculous climate is getting to. 822 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 5: You you are you are not prepared for the real. 823 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,560 Speaker 5: World can you imagine if she actually had to work 824 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,720 Speaker 5: for a living son of a. Gun that's the audio 825 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:12,279 Speaker 5: dumb for. 826 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,800 Speaker 2: Today we do it Every. Friday you should always be. 827 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,239 Speaker 2: Here this Is Tony kats. 828 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,720 Speaker 5: Today i've got all these people on my social media 829 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,120 Speaker 5: feed arguing about redistricting and how you know this Is 830 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 5: texas's fault and jerrymandering is fine Until texas decides to 831 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 5: do something about her Or texas makes a, change and 832 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,400 Speaker 5: then jerrymandering is a problem unless we're doing the, jerrymandering 833 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 5: in which case it's. Fine oh, man this is why 834 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,320 Speaker 5: people drink. Bourbon Tony, Katz Tony katz. Today good to 835 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,520 Speaker 5: be With you find everything over At Tony katz dot 836 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:52,280 Speaker 5: com if you, Would i'd greatly appreciate. It, Again texas 837 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:59,279 Speaker 5: is allowed to make changes to how they. District california 838 00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:03,359 Speaker 5: could have made these. Changes california is saying we're going 839 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,440 Speaker 5: to Draw republicans out If texas DOES. 840 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:13,880 Speaker 2: X y AND. Z, well that that is a warring. 841 00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,080 Speaker 2: Tactic that's. 842 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 5: Escalatory the people, who if they have an, issue should 843 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 5: do something about What texas is doing with a mid 844 00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:31,200 Speaker 5: decade redistricting are the people Of. Texas and someone very 845 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:35,120 Speaker 5: foolishly said to, me, yes but they're being redistricted on 846 00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:39,400 Speaker 5: the congressional. Level they still have state. Representatives what do you, 847 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 5: mean do you really think they can't vote somebody out 848 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,840 Speaker 5: Of they really don't like what's. Happening it's just. 849 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:51,879 Speaker 2: They're just so, embarrassing these people who don't. Think they 850 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:56,640 Speaker 2: have no thoughts at, all. 851 00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:03,120 Speaker 5: None they've got radical emotions and nothing. Else and you 852 00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:10,120 Speaker 5: will find this to be the constant in everything regarding the. 853 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,919 Speaker 2: Left it's a good reminder BECAUSE i, mean we've talked about. 854 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:22,160 Speaker 5: Redissecting the emotional component is what, drives not anything having 855 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,680 Speaker 5: to do with, fact, logic and, reason and that's very 856 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:28,920 Speaker 5: hard to deal with because you want to, engage you 857 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:33,520 Speaker 5: want to bring a rational thought to these, things and 858 00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:37,640 Speaker 5: they are not interested in a rational. Thought they're interested 859 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:43,320 Speaker 5: in only something. Emotional and that emotional usually comes around 860 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,120 Speaker 5: the idea of when they do, it it's, fine and 861 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:50,160 Speaker 5: when you do, it it's a threat to. Democracy when 862 00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,640 Speaker 5: they notice you doing, it they should speak. Up when 863 00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,560 Speaker 5: you notice them doing, it it's why you're always looking at, 864 00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,279 Speaker 5: me why you always involved in a, culture or why 865 00:53:58,320 --> 00:53:58,960 Speaker 5: you always staring at. 866 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,640 Speaker 2: Me you're so weird and all of that is. Emotional 867 00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:07,040 Speaker 2: all that is. Childlike that's what we're dealing. With that 868 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:13,120 Speaker 2: is what we are. Fighting and by the, way that 869 00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,640 Speaker 2: we as not just conservatives or Just. 870 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:20,680 Speaker 5: Republicans it's, normal rational people who may very well consider 871 00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:24,240 Speaker 5: themselves a Political but how do you talk to somebody 872 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,120 Speaker 5: who is so emotional all the. 873 00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,520 Speaker 2: Time they refuse to even. 874 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:33,000 Speaker 5: Meet you in a basic decency that if you don't 875 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,279 Speaker 5: agree with them one hundred, percent you are a support a. 876 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,840 Speaker 5: Fascist do you know how emotionally unstable you? Are you 877 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:44,160 Speaker 5: think that La amahav is emotionally unstable regarding the, environment 878 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,920 Speaker 5: she is just one of way too many and this 879 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:53,680 Speaker 5: redistricting argument problem is just more proof of their inability 880 00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:54,239 Speaker 5: to handle their. 881 00:54:54,280 --> 00:55:03,880 Speaker 2: Emotions I'm Tony. Katz this Is Tony. Kats it was 882 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 2: a gallop pole and it Says americans are drinking. Less. 883 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:13,680 Speaker 5: Now this has been an ongoing, Conversation Tony, katz good 884 00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,480 Speaker 5: to be with you and you guys KNOW i do, eat, drink. 885 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,320 Speaker 5: Smoke The cigar And bourbon show heard all across the. 886 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:23,200 Speaker 5: Country we have been discussing this. Regularly Gen z is 887 00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:27,399 Speaker 5: not a drinking. Generation between their own views of quote 888 00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,880 Speaker 5: unquote health ozembic. 889 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,520 Speaker 2: With other generations other, Things drinking is just not what they. 890 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:38,040 Speaker 5: Do it's definitely non alcoholic is where they're at bars 891 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:42,440 Speaker 5: that just do, mocktails non alcoholic beers Like. Athletic it's 892 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,719 Speaker 5: been a thing in the bourbon industry is feeling it 893 00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:46,640 Speaker 5: in a, large large. 894 00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:50,799 Speaker 2: Way that doesn't mean that it's all going. Away there are. 895 00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,279 Speaker 5: Still local distilleries that are still major. Distillers and, Me 896 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,239 Speaker 5: i'm still a huge fan of the. 897 00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:57,440 Speaker 2: ART i love. 898 00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:01,800 Speaker 5: It Julian jones joins you right now from west For Whisky, Whiskey, Westfield. 899 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,560 Speaker 5: INDIANA i should say, that, Right Julian jones joins me 900 00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,960 Speaker 5: now from West Fork whiskey In, Westfield. 901 00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,560 Speaker 2: Indiana, see that's the proper way to say. 902 00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,120 Speaker 5: It not only getting ready for the live golf event 903 00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,600 Speaker 5: that's taking place, there but also the home of my 904 00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:19,680 Speaker 5: event with actor Producer Nick sercy From hollywood to The 905 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:23,200 Speaker 5: heartland that is taking place at West Fork whiskey in A, 906 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,920 Speaker 5: westfield The Old Hamer, brands The West Fork, Brands AND 907 00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,600 Speaker 5: i want to get into the event itself Because i'm 908 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 5: thrilled that you guys are a part of, it and 909 00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:35,399 Speaker 5: you've really added some things to. It that, arena it's 910 00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:36,880 Speaker 5: going to sell us. Out the things you've add to 911 00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,320 Speaker 5: it are going to cause the. Sellout but let's start 912 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:43,600 Speaker 5: with the industry. Itself you pay attention to these. Things 913 00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 5: you've owned this, distillery you're putting out the. Barrels but 914 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,120 Speaker 5: the world has changed POST. 915 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:50,840 Speaker 2: Covid what is it that you guys are. 916 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,360 Speaker 10: Seeing, yeah you pretty much hit the nail on the 917 00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,600 Speaker 10: head with you, know kind of the reasons and that 918 00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:01,920 Speaker 10: the kids really aren't. Drinking so it has been a, 919 00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,840 Speaker 10: challenge you, know has a challenge to realign you, know, prices, values, 920 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:11,960 Speaker 10: products offer new, products offer products without. Alcohol but obviously you, 921 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,680 Speaker 10: Know West Fork. Whiskey we, are you, know at our 922 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:18,800 Speaker 10: core a whiskey maker and always will. Be but, yeah 923 00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,120 Speaker 10: strong headwinds not just for, us you, know smaller kind of, 924 00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:26,600 Speaker 10: distilleries but the big players. Too so it really is 925 00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,320 Speaker 10: a challenge that we think, about we talk about every. 926 00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:33,720 Speaker 10: Day so try and figure it out to that. 927 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:35,560 Speaker 5: End you, know this is something very, often this is 928 00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:40,080 Speaker 5: a conversation about economics that the bigger guy has more ability. 929 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,760 Speaker 2: To wait this, out more ability to keep their their. 930 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,840 Speaker 5: Products on the, shelves who own the shelf, space making 931 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,280 Speaker 5: it harder for smaller, distillers uh to to break. In 932 00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:53,600 Speaker 5: is this a marketing? Conversation is it a story? Conversation 933 00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,760 Speaker 5: some of the things if you can that you're doing 934 00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:02,360 Speaker 5: It WEST Fourk, whiskey your Brother, blake your Partner david, 935 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,280 Speaker 5: McIntyre that you guys are doing over At west Four. 936 00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:09,000 Speaker 2: Whiskey to try and find further find your, spot your 937 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:09,520 Speaker 2: place as you. 938 00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:14,000 Speaker 10: Grow, yeah you're absolutely right, that you, KNOW i don't 939 00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,280 Speaker 10: Think Buffalo trace Or Heaven hill is going to be 940 00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:20,040 Speaker 10: going out of business anytime. Soon while they are, struggling you, 941 00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,360 Speaker 10: know it is much harder on the smaller you, know 942 00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:27,680 Speaker 10: less well, capitalized less historic distilleries to figure out a 943 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,320 Speaker 10: way to you, know keep the lights, on keep the doors, 944 00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:36,600 Speaker 10: open while keeping your products affordably. Priced so we've done 945 00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,960 Speaker 10: the Mont tails. Thing we in fact have a New 946 00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:45,680 Speaker 10: delta nine spirit Called, aura which is hemp, derived no 947 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:50,600 Speaker 10: alcohol in that because the kids are certainly drinking cannabis 948 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:55,240 Speaker 10: type products more so recently than they are you, know 949 00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:59,200 Speaker 10: your typical bourbons and whiskeys and the things that we classically. 950 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,320 Speaker 10: Have the industry plastically produces and has has seen a 951 00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,160 Speaker 10: growth cycle until you, know very. 952 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:09,280 Speaker 5: Recently talking To Julian jones Of West Fork whiskey West 953 00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:15,600 Speaker 5: Fork whiskey dot. Com you've got some award winners for, 954 00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,960 Speaker 5: sure including The Hugh hamer which is rum finished and 955 00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,880 Speaker 5: we actually review that On, Eat, Drink smoke this, weekend 956 00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:25,919 Speaker 5: so people can get the, podcast listen to the radio 957 00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:30,240 Speaker 5: show and hear our review of. That but to the 958 00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:34,440 Speaker 5: idea of where the bourbon drinker is is it? About, 959 00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,360 Speaker 5: hey you got to have a special. Finish you, Know 960 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:38,520 Speaker 5: Maker's mark went through a whole series of these with 961 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,640 Speaker 5: their finishing. Series you see a lot of this happening 962 00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,520 Speaker 5: is you got to have some kind of unique. Flavor 963 00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:48,200 Speaker 5: is it trying to keep yourself to the core of 964 00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:52,160 Speaker 5: what bourbon. Is stick to the, caramels stick to the. 965 00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,960 Speaker 5: Oaks where do you See West fork playing in the. 966 00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:56,320 Speaker 2: Space? 967 00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:00,720 Speaker 10: Sure, Yeah, honestly we're not going to Out, kentucky, right 968 01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,400 Speaker 10: so we need unique, Finishes we need unique. Mashvills we 969 01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:08,240 Speaker 10: bill ourselves as a high corn bourbon distillery very much on. 970 01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:12,520 Speaker 10: Purpose it's kind of an open secret That kentucky has 971 01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:16,320 Speaker 10: been using our world Class indiana corn to make their 972 01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,800 Speaker 10: bourbon for a very long. Time and the other things 973 01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:22,200 Speaker 10: that they think and obviously does make really delicious bourbon 974 01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:25,120 Speaker 10: as limestone filtered. Water we have that right here In. 975 01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:28,840 Speaker 10: Indiana so you, know we try and. 976 01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,120 Speaker 8: Keep at least enough to the core that you, know 977 01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:33,120 Speaker 8: you get some of. 978 01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,760 Speaker 10: Those traditional caramels and vanillas that you would from a 979 01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,400 Speaker 10: typical four of brain bourbon from our neighbors down. South 980 01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,640 Speaker 10: but we certainly put our own slant on. It you 981 01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,280 Speaker 10: mentioned Our Old hammer And Hugh hamer. Line those are 982 01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,600 Speaker 10: ninety nine percent, corn one percent multi. Barley it's a 983 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:52,080 Speaker 10: super Unique. Nashville we were really the first to bring 984 01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:56,760 Speaker 10: that to. Market but it gets enough of that nostalgia 985 01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,880 Speaker 10: and those those typical bourbon, notes but it's different enough 986 01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,840 Speaker 10: that it's not just. One also ram right. 987 01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:08,560 Speaker 5: Talking To Julian jones Of West Fork Whiskey Wesfok whiskey dot. 988 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,240 Speaker 5: Com so you've got the distillery, there then you have 989 01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,280 Speaker 5: the bar and tasting lounge Called. Stave then you've got 990 01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,960 Speaker 5: the restaurant itself Called, mash so you have a lot 991 01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:21,200 Speaker 5: going on that people can come and do distillery tours 992 01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:22,880 Speaker 5: or eat and everything. 993 01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,040 Speaker 2: Else you've got the whole kind of thing. Going and 994 01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:25,919 Speaker 2: then you have the event. 995 01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:29,480 Speaker 5: Center and that is WHERE i am hosting From hollywood 996 01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:33,800 Speaker 5: to The Heartland august twenty, third myself an actor Producer 997 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:41,160 Speaker 5: Nick cercy From, Justified, Castaway, Runaway, Jury Fantastic. Dude he's 998 01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:45,280 Speaker 5: created documentary is not just written produced documentaries About january 999 01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:48,640 Speaker 5: sixth a lot of film and television. Work as people, 1000 01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,920 Speaker 5: know we're gonna be Doing hollywood, STORIES dc, stories why 1001 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,960 Speaker 5: we live in The. Midwest now it's going to be 1002 01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:59,200 Speaker 5: happening at your place At west Four. WHISKEY i saw 1003 01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,640 Speaker 5: you yesterday and you said we could do this, bigger 1004 01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,320 Speaker 5: we can do This, boulder we could do it. Better 1005 01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:08,400 Speaker 5: and now we're getting into distillery. Tours we've added a 1006 01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:12,040 Speaker 5: bourbon and wax, dipping which could have a lot of 1007 01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,720 Speaker 5: different ways you take. That so walk me through what 1008 01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:16,520 Speaker 5: it is you're going to be offering people who attend 1009 01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:17,200 Speaker 5: On august twenty. 1010 01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:20,280 Speaker 10: Third, Yeah so in addition to everything that you said 1011 01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:22,840 Speaker 10: you know about the, event we are going to have 1012 01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:26,800 Speaker 10: some special bottles that will be available only to the 1013 01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:30,320 Speaker 10: VIPs that come. THROUGH i will be tasting that with 1014 01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:35,120 Speaker 10: some of my team before the, show so definitely definitely 1015 01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,840 Speaker 10: encourage you to pick up one of THOSE vip. Tickets 1016 01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:41,560 Speaker 10: it's going to be a really awesome. Experience in addition to, 1017 01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,640 Speaker 10: that we will be tasting a select number of bourbons 1018 01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:48,360 Speaker 10: throughout the show with the ability to purchase those. Bottles 1019 01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:51,040 Speaker 10: like you, said we can wax. Dip really cool little. 1020 01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:55,520 Speaker 10: Feature but then you, know once things start slowing, down 1021 01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:57,800 Speaker 10: we have a nice. Cigar we certainly are going to 1022 01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:01,760 Speaker 10: collect the scrag of the group and we'll do we'll 1023 01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:05,640 Speaker 10: do a, nice a little whiskey tour through the building 1024 01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,200 Speaker 10: and probably drill some barrels and see what kind of 1025 01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:09,360 Speaker 10: phone and get ourselves Into. 1026 01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:13,760 Speaker 5: Julian Jones West Fork, Whiskey West Fork, Whiskey dot. 1027 01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:16,360 Speaker 2: COM i appreciate you being with. Us it. Is it's 1028 01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:17,080 Speaker 2: going to be an amazing. 1029 01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,800 Speaker 5: Night tickets Dot tonycots dot, com myself A Nick, sercy 1030 01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,080 Speaker 5: get your. Tickets do that right. Now but, this this 1031 01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:28,160 Speaker 5: gallop pole is really interesting because it has so made the, 1032 01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:32,520 Speaker 5: rounds and there's a bunch of philosophies about why it. 1033 01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:37,680 Speaker 5: Is younger generations aren't. Drinking now we can, argue, well 1034 01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:39,560 Speaker 5: it's bad for, you and they've learned it's bad for. 1035 01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:40,640 Speaker 5: You they don't want to take. 1036 01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:44,680 Speaker 2: Up, uh this this bad. HABIT i think that's. Possible. 1037 01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:50,160 Speaker 5: Uh the GEN z crowd seems pretty health conscious and 1038 01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:56,520 Speaker 5: they they, are you, know looking for for. Alternatives it's 1039 01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:00,160 Speaker 5: certainly as as you Heard julian discuss. 1040 01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:04,120 Speaker 2: This idea OF Cbd all, RIGHT cbd, right no. 1041 01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:07,480 Speaker 5: Hemp, well it's all in the same it's all cannabis 1042 01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,160 Speaker 5: derived kind of, stuff and that could be. 1043 01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:14,720 Speaker 2: It but there's another argument to be. 1044 01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:20,360 Speaker 5: Made first to the, pole where fifty three percent of 1045 01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:23,800 Speaker 5: adults now say moderate drinking is bad for their, health 1046 01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:28,240 Speaker 5: up from twenty eight percent in twenty. Fifteen it's interesting 1047 01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:33,240 Speaker 5: that number is near. Doubled fifty four percent OF us 1048 01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,520 Speaker 5: adults say they drink alcoholic beverages, liquor wine or beer 1049 01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,959 Speaker 5: lower than at any other point in the past three. 1050 01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:43,520 Speaker 2: DECADES i do think that that creates. 1051 01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,400 Speaker 5: A little bit of an, argument for there are so 1052 01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:49,400 Speaker 5: many other things they can. Do, right gummies are. Real 1053 01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:57,440 Speaker 5: but also we saw DURING covid and incredible, boom bourbon 1054 01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:02,200 Speaker 5: was on. Fire you wouldn't find it and they were 1055 01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:05,600 Speaker 5: trying to, replenish so it was hard to find. Barrel, 1056 01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:07,560 Speaker 5: certainly you couldn't buy a barrel if you want to 1057 01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:10,240 Speaker 5: put something out of your own and always remember that with. 1058 01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:12,400 Speaker 2: Bourbon, right there are laws to these, things you guys. 1059 01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,440 Speaker 5: KNOW i wrote a book about, Bourbon Let's Go, bourbon 1060 01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:15,960 Speaker 5: develop At amazon Dot. 1061 01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:17,320 Speaker 2: Com it was the first. 1062 01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:19,400 Speaker 5: Book so it's really a very Simple it's just a, reader, 1063 01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:21,480 Speaker 5: right here are the, laws here are the. Rules here's 1064 01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:23,400 Speaker 5: some cool. Quotes a you put it in your. Bathroom 1065 01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:25,400 Speaker 5: it's a lot of, fun, Right that's. All it is 1066 01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:27,240 Speaker 5: a little bit of, information a little bit of. Fun 1067 01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,360 Speaker 5: the second, Book Let's Go, barbecue was a little more 1068 01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:33,400 Speaker 5: personality driven and story. Driven the next, book Which i'm working, 1069 01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:35,720 Speaker 5: On Let's Go, grill but it might be Called Let's Go. 1070 01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:37,240 Speaker 2: Grilling that is. 1071 01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:40,600 Speaker 5: Also going to be in that vein of let's go, 1072 01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:43,880 Speaker 5: barbecue we have to redo let's go. Bourbon but that's 1073 01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:47,360 Speaker 5: not the. Story the story is is that there are 1074 01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:51,480 Speaker 5: rules to bourbon and ways that it has to be, 1075 01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:54,520 Speaker 5: made steps that have to be followed in order to 1076 01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:57,680 Speaker 5: be called bourbon by. Law bourbon is The american. Drink, 1077 01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:02,600 Speaker 5: well you can pour juice into the barrel right a 1078 01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:04,640 Speaker 5: first use charred, Oak. 1079 01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:07,360 Speaker 2: American chart oak, barrel pour it in port. Out that's. 1080 01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:12,360 Speaker 5: Bourbon that's the rules being. Followed but anybody who is 1081 01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:14,560 Speaker 5: anybody knows that it's going to have to spend. 1082 01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:17,480 Speaker 2: Some time in the. Barrel and you want the four, 1083 01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:19,560 Speaker 2: years and you want to be able to call it 1084 01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:20,360 Speaker 2: straight bourbon. 1085 01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:25,160 Speaker 5: Whiskey you want the straight designation on there in order 1086 01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:27,880 Speaker 5: to be able to kind of give yourself a little. 1087 01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:32,640 Speaker 5: Gravitas and then there's the knowledge that, age of course creates, 1088 01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,960 Speaker 5: character depth of. Flavor things like that you're extracting the 1089 01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,720 Speaker 5: flavors from the. Wood depending on the char the heat 1090 01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:41,240 Speaker 5: that you put on, It you're gonna get different flavors 1091 01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:44,120 Speaker 5: depending on that. Mash, Bill how are those all those 1092 01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:49,360 Speaker 5: flavors going to connect and unite these things take. Time 1093 01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:53,440 Speaker 5: so when you say the bourbon is flying off the 1094 01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,360 Speaker 5: shelves and they want to replenish, it it doesn't get replenished. 1095 01:06:56,400 --> 01:07:00,440 Speaker 5: Overnight it's going to Take one could argue for the 1096 01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:05,000 Speaker 5: vast majority of bourbons four. Years that's how long the 1097 01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:09,520 Speaker 5: juice is going to spend in the barrel in the rick. 1098 01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:14,880 Speaker 5: House it's gonna spend four years or in some cases, six, seven, ten, 1099 01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:19,000 Speaker 5: fifteen depending on what you're trying to. Do and then 1100 01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,840 Speaker 5: of course you're losing. Share that's what they call the 1101 01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:25,840 Speaker 5: angel share because of. Evaporation you start out WITH x 1102 01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,880 Speaker 5: amount of juice and you end up with of, liquid 1103 01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:31,960 Speaker 5: and then over time you have, evaporation you. 1104 01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:32,680 Speaker 2: End up with y. 1105 01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,480 Speaker 5: Amount, right there's a difference. There that difference is referred 1106 01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:39,600 Speaker 5: to as the angel. Share that's where that expression comes. 1107 01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:43,920 Speaker 5: From so you have that going. On so you're losing, 1108 01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,520 Speaker 5: liquid so you have to charge a premium for the 1109 01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:48,120 Speaker 5: liquid depending on the number of. 1110 01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,000 Speaker 2: Years in the more years you would, assume the more 1111 01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:51,520 Speaker 2: premium that you're going to. 1112 01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:54,800 Speaker 5: Charge so now you're gonna have places out there that 1113 01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:58,080 Speaker 5: have more premium bourbon because they spend more time with 1114 01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:03,560 Speaker 5: it in the barrel and they're not gonna have a 1115 01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,120 Speaker 5: place to sell, it there isn't gonna be a buyer for, 1116 01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:08,200 Speaker 5: it or they're gonna be less buyers for, it which 1117 01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:11,960 Speaker 5: brings the price down because applying demand is very. Real 1118 01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:15,640 Speaker 5: so there's a lot of moving parts here and a 1119 01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:21,599 Speaker 5: lot of real effect on these. Distillers but the point 1120 01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:26,760 Speaker 5: THAT i think was most interesting to look at here 1121 01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,519 Speaker 5: is because IN covid we saw so much, buying and 1122 01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:32,439 Speaker 5: now it's POST, covid we see so little. Buying what 1123 01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:38,280 Speaker 5: if this is actually A covid conversation where because we 1124 01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:42,400 Speaker 5: locked people up younger, generations we locked them. Up, nope 1125 01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:43,840 Speaker 5: you can't go see your. Friends, note you can't go 1126 01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:46,080 Speaker 5: graduate high. School no you can't do. This no you 1127 01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,240 Speaker 5: can't do, That no you can't do the. Other, well 1128 01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:51,720 Speaker 5: they don't know how to be, social and drinking is 1129 01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:55,439 Speaker 5: something you do. Socially so since they're not, social they don't. 1130 01:08:55,560 --> 01:09:00,320 Speaker 5: Drink my kids would tell me that there's money of 1131 01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:03,920 Speaker 5: socializing going on and plenty of social actions going, on 1132 01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:08,519 Speaker 5: they're just not interested in the. ALCOHOL i would argue 1133 01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,519 Speaker 5: that the truth is somewhere in all of, this a 1134 01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:13,680 Speaker 5: bit of, trend a bit of. 1135 01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:16,080 Speaker 2: Different, generations see things. 1136 01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:21,720 Speaker 5: DIFFERENTLY a bit of this generation also is afraid of 1137 01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:25,400 Speaker 5: its social. Opportunities they're. Afraid they don't know how to be. 1138 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,960 Speaker 5: Social they don't know how to do outreach in any. 1139 01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:33,320 Speaker 5: Situation while people might look at a less drinking that's, 1140 01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:39,479 Speaker 5: GREAT i. DON'T i think it's a signal for something. 1141 01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:42,559 Speaker 5: BAD i just haven't been able to put my finger 1142 01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,400 Speaker 5: on exactly what that bad thing is. 1143 01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:47,920 Speaker 2: Yet keep it. Here It's Tony katz. Today so NOW 1144 01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:48,840 Speaker 2: dc is. 1145 01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:53,920 Speaker 5: Suing there's a lawsuit that Challenges trump's federal takeover of 1146 01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:58,160 Speaker 5: THE dc. Police even though they've been, pushing there have 1147 01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:02,960 Speaker 5: been crackdowns, people they're getting the whole, thing the whole thing, 1148 01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:03,600 Speaker 5: done or. 1149 01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:06,759 Speaker 2: At least they're starting. To let's see how it. Progresses Tony, 1150 01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:10,600 Speaker 2: Katz Tony katz. Today good to be with you that 1151 01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:12,840 Speaker 2: that the left is still opposed to this is. 1152 01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:15,360 Speaker 5: Nuts this is The district Of Columbia Attorney General Brian 1153 01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:18,240 Speaker 5: schwab saying in a lawsuit That trump is going far 1154 01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:21,320 Speaker 5: beyond his power under the, law asking a judge to 1155 01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:24,400 Speaker 5: find that control of the department remains in district's. Hand 1156 01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:29,560 Speaker 5: in the district's, hands he's, wrong and the idea, That, 1157 01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:30,599 Speaker 5: hey what about home? 1158 01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:31,360 Speaker 2: Rule what about? 1159 01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:35,919 Speaker 5: It your entire, budget your entire existence comes From. Congress 1160 01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:40,720 Speaker 5: so that's that you're not a. State what rights do 1161 01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:45,720 Speaker 5: you think that you? Have the president is not outside 1162 01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:49,280 Speaker 5: of his scope or authority. Here but of course they're 1163 01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:51,280 Speaker 5: going to judge shop and they're gonna find. SOMETHING i 1164 01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:54,240 Speaker 5: won't be surprised if this ends up in the arms 1165 01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:59,040 Speaker 5: of a. Justice But Justice Judge. Moosburg you Know trump 1166 01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:01,479 Speaker 5: can't do. THIS i can't support, that And trump can't 1167 01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:04,960 Speaker 5: do the. Other why can't you just be happy that 1168 01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:07,640 Speaker 5: crime is being fought the way it needs to be. 1169 01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:10,680 Speaker 5: Fought there are times WHERE i think that the that 1170 01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:13,439 Speaker 5: the president is overstepping is saying one of. 1171 01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:33,880 Speaker 1: Them I'm Tony. Katz this Is Tony katz. Today why 1172 01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:40,080 Speaker 1: from Ball hartbiner and The crossroads Of. America It's Tony katz. 1173 01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:44,439 Speaker 5: Today everyone and their mother wants to tell you about 1174 01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:47,400 Speaker 5: what's going to happen in the meeting With trump And. 1175 01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:50,639 Speaker 5: Putin i'm not going to do. THAT i have absolutely 1176 01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:55,240 Speaker 5: no idea what's going to. Happen my vested interest is 1177 01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:58,200 Speaker 5: in getting the information and making a decision from. 1178 01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:00,799 Speaker 2: THERE i Need. 1179 01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:03,680 Speaker 5: Vladimir putin to, say we'll do whatever you, want just 1180 01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:06,600 Speaker 5: please stop with the. Sanctions that would be, great but 1181 01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:10,880 Speaker 5: that's not going to. Happen that's not gonna be. It 1182 01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:14,479 Speaker 5: i'm not only not gonna, stop but we're gonna go, 1183 01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:17,160 Speaker 5: further and your grain's gonna give up their land and 1184 01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,880 Speaker 5: there's nothing you could do about. IT i don't think 1185 01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:23,599 Speaker 5: that's coming. Either the idea that we have a clue 1186 01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:25,840 Speaker 5: of how this conversation is going to go. 1187 01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:27,560 Speaker 4: Is. 1188 01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:32,200 Speaker 5: Laughable and the idea that there are so many people 1189 01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:37,960 Speaker 5: in cable news so absolutely desperate to have an. 1190 01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:39,200 Speaker 2: Opinion. 1191 01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:43,120 Speaker 5: You can't just, say, well let them talk and let's 1192 01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:47,880 Speaker 5: see what. Happens, well you can't Trust Vladimir? Putin, well, 1193 01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:50,679 Speaker 5: yeah we know we can't Trust Ladimir. Putin, Well trump's 1194 01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:53,160 Speaker 5: gonna fall for out of all Of vladimir's. Games what 1195 01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:54,400 Speaker 5: are you talking? 1196 01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:59,280 Speaker 2: About what games and what falling? For, well you know he's. 1197 01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:03,759 Speaker 5: TRAINED kg and he's just gonna appeal To trump's ego 1198 01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:04,880 Speaker 5: and the next thing you, know he's going. 1199 01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:05,439 Speaker 2: To walk all over. 1200 01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:10,920 Speaker 5: Him The russian military has proven themselves to be incompetent 1201 01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:13,120 Speaker 5: and incapable. 1202 01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:19,800 Speaker 2: Walk all over whom with what this whole thing is 1203 01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:23,720 Speaker 2: is just it's all just, wait what's the best word for. It. 1204 01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:29,639 Speaker 2: Crap that's. It it's all just crap when you Hear 1205 01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:34,000 Speaker 2: america's favorite beta, Mail Senator Chris murphy Of. 1206 01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:38,400 Speaker 15: Connecticut, well the first thing that's happening here is the 1207 01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:42,639 Speaker 15: welcoming Of putin back into the order of major mainstream. 1208 01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:46,000 Speaker 15: Nations he is visiting The United states for the first 1209 01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:49,400 Speaker 15: time since he became a war. Criminal he's standing with 1210 01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:52,880 Speaker 15: the most powerful person in the, world and it is 1211 01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:56,519 Speaker 15: a sign From Donald trump essentially that all is. 1212 01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:59,280 Speaker 2: Forgiven and so this is a big moment For putin. 1213 01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:04,080 Speaker 15: Because he essentially is being legitimized in the eyes of 1214 01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:06,400 Speaker 15: The United states and in the eyes of the. 1215 01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:10,240 Speaker 5: World do you know how absolutely radically daft that, Is 1216 01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:13,519 Speaker 5: but of course it. Is it's From Senator Chris murphy Of. 1217 01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:18,920 Speaker 5: Connecticut do you want this to? Stop how does it? 1218 01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:23,479 Speaker 5: Stop without talking To Vladimir? Putin, well the answer is 1219 01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:28,719 Speaker 5: it stops when you fire bullets At russian. 1220 01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:30,800 Speaker 2: Heads that's the. 1221 01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:37,120 Speaker 5: Argument that's the. Argument it stops when you shoot at their. Skull, 1222 01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:42,600 Speaker 5: now the, question tough, Guy Chris, murphy is that what 1223 01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:47,640 Speaker 5: you're going to? Do now if you say to, me, Well, 1224 01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:50,200 Speaker 5: tony that's not what he. MEANT i just heard what he. 1225 01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:54,479 Speaker 5: Said you're Legitimizing Vladimir. Putin that's What Donald trump is. 1226 01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:58,320 Speaker 2: Doing and the whole world season the whole world. 1227 01:14:58,280 --> 01:14:59,880 Speaker 5: Understands he might need to talk to a guy to 1228 01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:01,519 Speaker 5: create a deal with the guy to get the thing to. 1229 01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:05,760 Speaker 5: Stop AND i would argue That trump is, truly on 1230 01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:09,040 Speaker 5: a very personal, level he wants this. Done he wants 1231 01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:11,840 Speaker 5: it done because, yes he made the promise that he 1232 01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:14,320 Speaker 5: would stop the war on day, one and that, was 1233 01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:16,920 Speaker 5: of course a ridiculous thing to. Say AND i must 1234 01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:22,120 Speaker 5: admit that anybody In magiaville who believed, it that's. Unserious 1235 01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:25,160 Speaker 5: we should question whether you should be able to operate heavy. 1236 01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:27,280 Speaker 5: Machinery you really thought he was going to be able 1237 01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:32,680 Speaker 5: to do this on day? One, foolhardy foolhardy, statement this 1238 01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:34,920 Speaker 5: never would have happened IF i was in. Office, well 1239 01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,640 Speaker 5: we'll never, know BUT i think that the odds were 1240 01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:41,600 Speaker 5: certainly stronger that the proper pressure could have been applied 1241 01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:43,920 Speaker 5: to ensure that it didn't. 1242 01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:45,160 Speaker 2: Happen With. 1243 01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:47,439 Speaker 5: Trump it doesn't mean you could have guaranteed, it but 1244 01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:50,600 Speaker 5: you could argue that he could have better finessed the 1245 01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:55,000 Speaker 5: situation to keep something from, happening at least while he 1246 01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:59,439 Speaker 5: was in. Office but here we are, now so none 1247 01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:04,160 Speaker 5: of that, matters none of. It but, yes you'd be 1248 01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:05,960 Speaker 5: crazy to think That trump was going to solve this 1249 01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:09,160 Speaker 5: in a. Day but if you're not going to solve 1250 01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:12,120 Speaker 5: it with, diplomacy you're going to solve it with. Bullets 1251 01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:16,519 Speaker 5: this is What Senator christmer is. Advocating he won't admit to, 1252 01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:19,920 Speaker 5: that but that's what he's. Advocating but don't, worry he's 1253 01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:22,200 Speaker 5: not done being full on beta beta. 1254 01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:23,479 Speaker 2: Beta we know. 1255 01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:26,120 Speaker 15: There's not going to be any major piece deal, here 1256 01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:29,400 Speaker 15: largely because one of the parties to the war isn't 1257 01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:31,559 Speaker 15: at the. Table you can't sign a piece agreement If 1258 01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:35,400 Speaker 15: selenski isn't, there and so there is not going to 1259 01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:35,960 Speaker 15: be any. 1260 01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:38,519 Speaker 2: Breakthrough and my worry is. 1261 01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:41,599 Speaker 15: That, well the photo op in and of itself essentially 1262 01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:48,000 Speaker 15: legitimizes war, crimes telegraphs to other autocrats or evil men 1263 01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:50,799 Speaker 15: around the world that they can get away with murdering 1264 01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,280 Speaker 15: civilians and still get a photo op with The president 1265 01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:56,960 Speaker 15: of The United. States it could get worse because if 1266 01:16:57,000 --> 01:17:00,280 Speaker 15: there is no, agreement if putent thumbs his nose At, 1267 01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:04,400 Speaker 15: trump and Then trump does not follow through with more 1268 01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:09,360 Speaker 15: weapons For ukraine or with any, sanctions then it's essentially 1269 01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:11,000 Speaker 15: the final green light To. 1270 01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:16,120 Speaker 5: Putin first things, First putin doesn't need any green. Lights 1271 01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:19,439 Speaker 5: putin can just keep at this and keep at, this 1272 01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:23,680 Speaker 5: and keep at, this no. Question he can keep at 1273 01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:27,040 Speaker 5: this and keep doing. This you, know this whole idea 1274 01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:32,240 Speaker 5: of who has the upper, Hand no one has or 1275 01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:35,439 Speaker 5: doesn't have upper. Hand there's no hand to be. Had you, 1276 01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:39,439 Speaker 5: know it was at sidebel diet. Hand putin can. 1277 01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:40,040 Speaker 2: Keep going at. 1278 01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:42,200 Speaker 5: This the only way he's going to be stopped is 1279 01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:46,160 Speaker 5: by bullets and hardware and possibly by. Troops, again we 1280 01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:50,240 Speaker 5: go back to that. Theory but it can get. Worse 1281 01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:53,439 Speaker 5: what do you mean it can get? WORSE i just 1282 01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:58,000 Speaker 5: explained as any rational person would know that he doesn't 1283 01:17:58,040 --> 01:17:59,920 Speaker 5: have to stop. Anything the question is what can he. 1284 01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:03,639 Speaker 5: Get does he need an off? Ramp Does Vladimir putin 1285 01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:07,080 Speaker 5: need an off? Ramp and one could, argue, yes that 1286 01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:12,439 Speaker 5: he would appreciate the idea of stopping this has not gone. 1287 01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:16,080 Speaker 2: Well yes he can win, It yes he can Outlast, 1288 01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:18,479 Speaker 2: ukraine but there's a. 1289 01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:25,519 Speaker 5: Cost there's a real legitimate cost bodies are piling. Up 1290 01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:29,760 Speaker 5: as much As trump really has an issue with, war 1291 01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:31,720 Speaker 5: he really doesn't want to see. 1292 01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:34,160 Speaker 2: This putin understands that there. 1293 01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:39,000 Speaker 5: Is a, reality and the reality is the, cost and 1294 01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:42,920 Speaker 5: maybe he needs some time to, regroup and all politics are, local. 1295 01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:45,760 Speaker 5: Etc so he could be looking for an off, ramp 1296 01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:48,519 Speaker 5: but he doesn't necessarily need to. 1297 01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:52,000 Speaker 2: Stop he could beat The ukrainians at. 1298 01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:55,120 Speaker 5: This he can win this war of attrition even if 1299 01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:57,439 Speaker 5: it damages himself and The russian. 1300 01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:01,960 Speaker 2: Nation so the idea that it could be worse. 1301 01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:04,439 Speaker 8: Is just is just. 1302 01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:09,120 Speaker 5: Foolhardy and why WOULD i now believe That trump isn't 1303 01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:13,080 Speaker 5: going to follow through with more weapons For ukraine or 1304 01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:14,120 Speaker 5: not engage. 1305 01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:16,439 Speaker 2: Sanctions what has he shown about. 1306 01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:19,080 Speaker 5: That he has shown yes he'll do, sanctions and he 1307 01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:22,920 Speaker 5: has shown yes he'll provide weapons To. Ukraine both things 1308 01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:26,320 Speaker 5: are things That Senator Chris murphy are, Saying, well what 1309 01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:29,280 Speaker 5: if he's just making it up as he goes? Along 1310 01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:35,439 Speaker 5: reality tells us a much much different. Story now to 1311 01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:38,000 Speaker 5: this point about you can't have a peace deal With, 1312 01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:43,040 Speaker 5: ukraine not at the table when you are negotiating a 1313 01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:49,479 Speaker 5: piece between two. Nations here's how it. Works, NOW i 1314 01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:52,200 Speaker 5: am not an, expert BUT i have read a, book 1315 01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:54,560 Speaker 5: AND i have stayed at a holiday and, express SO 1316 01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:56,000 Speaker 5: i Think i've got this well in. 1317 01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:58,080 Speaker 2: Hand here's how. 1318 01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:04,160 Speaker 5: A peace deal. Works two, nations two parties. Meet one 1319 01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:08,680 Speaker 5: party says we, surrender and the other party, says we 1320 01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:12,360 Speaker 5: accept your, surrender and there's the peace deal between two. 1321 01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:14,560 Speaker 2: Parties that's how that. 1322 01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:18,799 Speaker 5: Works If russia And ukraine are going to be engaged 1323 01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:22,960 Speaker 5: in a peace, deal that Means ukraine is. Surrendering do 1324 01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:28,800 Speaker 5: we not? Understand are we all? Insane you guys have 1325 01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:31,320 Speaker 5: known me now for a. While some of you might be. New, 1326 01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:33,240 Speaker 5: hey welcome to the. Show And Tony, katz how you? 1327 01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:33,840 Speaker 5: Doing how's your? 1328 01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:37,080 Speaker 2: Mother some of you guys we've been old friends and 1329 01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:38,080 Speaker 2: we have had many a bourbon. 1330 01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:42,000 Speaker 5: TOGETHER i have believed in day, one from day, one 1331 01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:46,719 Speaker 5: in sending bullets To ukraine and sending weapons To. Ukraine 1332 01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:50,200 Speaker 5: i've been opposed to engaging in no fly zones or 1333 01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:54,080 Speaker 5: patrolling no fly. ZONES i oppose sending troops in every. 1334 01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:56,920 Speaker 5: WAY i oppose sending dollars Because i'm not paying for 1335 01:20:57,040 --> 01:21:01,759 Speaker 5: somebody's vacation In, ukraine but bullets and. HARDWARE i believe 1336 01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:04,439 Speaker 5: in The russians are the. Threat The russians are the. 1337 01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:08,200 Speaker 5: Problem The russians are. GUILTY i don't give a damn 1338 01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:12,000 Speaker 5: What tucker says The russians did. THIS i have been 1339 01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:19,960 Speaker 5: clear on my positioning since day. One if anybody thinks 1340 01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:24,560 Speaker 5: That Vladimir zelenski is in any position to negotiate a, 1341 01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:29,600 Speaker 5: peace they are. Crazy he is only in a position to. 1342 01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:38,280 Speaker 5: Surrender the only survival opportunity That Vladimir's Lenski ukraine has IS, 1343 01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:43,800 Speaker 5: us A nato force of twenty five thousand plus with 1344 01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:47,960 Speaker 5: guns pointed At russian. Skulls do you think that's? Coming 1345 01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:53,559 Speaker 5: everything About ukraine is predicated ON us being there for them, 1346 01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:56,400 Speaker 5: everything which is. 1347 01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:58,760 Speaker 2: Why and this was always a true. 1348 01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:02,160 Speaker 5: Argument mage had it right from the, beginning and it 1349 01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:06,200 Speaker 5: was insane From. Zelenski dear gosh, man could you be 1350 01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:08,760 Speaker 5: a little. Nicer could you. 1351 01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:12,519 Speaker 2: Could just stop lecturing to, Us could you stop telling 1352 01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:16,360 Speaker 2: us we're not doing? Enough what the? Hell what the? Hell? 1353 01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:20,240 Speaker 5: Man could you stop making it all about you and 1354 01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:22,639 Speaker 5: find some other way to talk to us that would 1355 01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:26,600 Speaker 5: bring more people to your. Side, Oh zelenski screwed. Up 1356 01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:30,719 Speaker 5: he started off super strong because he stayed then screwed 1357 01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:32,800 Speaker 5: it all up and then did the photo ops with 1358 01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:35,000 Speaker 5: his wife and what what is? 1359 01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:36,840 Speaker 2: This what are you? 1360 01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:41,560 Speaker 5: Doing he did this to. HIMSELF a lot of the 1361 01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:45,720 Speaker 5: bad blood is. Him Even Joe biden had to, say my, 1362 01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:49,240 Speaker 5: god could you just stop being so absolutely insane and 1363 01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:54,560 Speaker 5: cavalier around? Us could you just be a little? NICER i, 1364 01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:58,840 Speaker 5: mean that's. There there there's something true about About zelenski's 1365 01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:00,040 Speaker 5: mindset in, person. 1366 01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:04,880 Speaker 2: And it's it's it's. Caustic it is not, easy and 1367 01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:08,280 Speaker 2: even when he's doing it. Right you, Know i've talked 1368 01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:09,200 Speaker 2: about The Oval office. 1369 01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:12,080 Speaker 5: MEETING i believe it was Jad vance that screwed it. 1370 01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:16,800 Speaker 5: Up Jd vance was not prepared for the response From. 1371 01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:19,439 Speaker 5: Zelenski if you keep talking about diplomacy and, diplomacy we 1372 01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:21,519 Speaker 5: signed this with You, Russia we signed that With. Russia 1373 01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:24,360 Speaker 5: we did, this we did. That russia disregards. Everything what 1374 01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:29,880 Speaker 5: diplomacy are you talking? About and Then vance went into 1375 01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:32,000 Speaker 5: could you at least you should be thanking? Us could 1376 01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:34,439 Speaker 5: you at least say thank? You that was a pivot 1377 01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:37,680 Speaker 5: because he had lost the, argument and it bothered, me 1378 01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:40,720 Speaker 5: and it still bothers me to some extent because Jd 1379 01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:42,439 Speaker 5: vance is way smarter than, that. 1380 01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:45,479 Speaker 2: And he just he lost. 1381 01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:48,880 Speaker 5: It and then When zelenski started going down the road 1382 01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:52,120 Speaker 5: of you will see Regarding, russia that's When trump very 1383 01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:54,680 Speaker 5: rightfully stepped in and, said you don't talk to us like. 1384 01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:56,519 Speaker 5: That no one's going to talk to me like that 1385 01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:58,920 Speaker 5: in The Oval, office no. One And trump was one 1386 01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:03,160 Speaker 5: thousand percent. Right AND i don't know if it's a 1387 01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:09,360 Speaker 5: difference in personality or it was. Age AND i don't 1388 01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:12,080 Speaker 5: mean that in a disparaging. Way this was just a 1389 01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:16,360 Speaker 5: little bit of real experience From trump being thirty plus 1390 01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:21,479 Speaker 5: Years Jade vance is, senior knowing how to make that 1391 01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:23,960 Speaker 5: turn the minute he or the thing and taking the 1392 01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:27,560 Speaker 5: conversation back Because vance lost that, one and it was 1393 01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:30,400 Speaker 5: the first time like that was really a. Mistake And 1394 01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:32,680 Speaker 5: i've seen some other things Where i'm, like you, Know 1395 01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:36,080 Speaker 5: advance does run for. President i'm not so sure Jd 1396 01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:38,800 Speaker 5: vance can take a punch to the. FACE i am 1397 01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:42,280 Speaker 5: not so sure in a mono, Imano i'm against Other 1398 01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:45,640 Speaker 5: republicans who want The White. House whether or not he 1399 01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:50,280 Speaker 5: could take direct. Hits i'm Maybe i'm, Wrong Maybe i'm. 1400 01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:53,080 Speaker 5: Wrong he has given some great speeches about freedom of. 1401 01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:55,680 Speaker 5: Speech he has been, very very solid in a host of. 1402 01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:59,360 Speaker 5: Things some things it's just, MAN i expected a little bit. 1403 01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:02,479 Speaker 2: More maybe the expert was too. High, possibly but move up. 1404 01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:07,120 Speaker 5: Past this and get into that. Reality zelensky has been 1405 01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:09,960 Speaker 5: hard to deal. With he has definitely turned people off 1406 01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:15,000 Speaker 5: to his. Costs undoubtedly. True but it Was ukraine that was, 1407 01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:17,680 Speaker 5: Attacked ukraine that was. Invaded AND i don't care what 1408 01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:20,439 Speaker 5: you tell me About. Ukraine, This ukraine, that and the 1409 01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:22,839 Speaker 5: Government russia started. 1410 01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:23,800 Speaker 2: This that's my. 1411 01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:28,040 Speaker 5: Point SO i support Keeping russia at, bay costing them 1412 01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:30,160 Speaker 5: tremendous amount of, dollars AND i don't care how many 1413 01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:34,720 Speaker 5: bodies let them. Surrender that would be my. Desire AND 1414 01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:39,439 Speaker 5: i favor the bumber Between russia AND nato. Nations so 1415 01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:41,479 Speaker 5: it's one lest thing for us as A nato nation 1416 01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:44,840 Speaker 5: to worry. About ukraine should never be A nato, nation never, 1417 01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:49,080 Speaker 5: ever never, ever never. Ever But ukraine can't negotiate a, 1418 01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:53,679 Speaker 5: peace and you have to be quite, Literally Senator Chris 1419 01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:57,519 Speaker 5: murphy daft to think that they. Can they'd have to 1420 01:25:57,640 --> 01:26:03,240 Speaker 5: agree to a. Deal they can't negotiate a peace, because 1421 01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:05,720 Speaker 5: As President trump said in That White house, meeting you 1422 01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:08,720 Speaker 5: don't have the hand you don't have the. Cards you 1423 01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:13,799 Speaker 5: Don't your only card is we. Surrender in every single, 1424 01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:20,280 Speaker 5: situation The ukrainians are two seven off. Suit they have, 1425 01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:26,960 Speaker 5: nothing zero less than zero to negotiate. With they have 1426 01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:31,080 Speaker 5: us IN nato the. End so, yes it should be 1427 01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:34,160 Speaker 5: The United states engage in this meeting to the, extent you, 1428 01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:36,120 Speaker 5: know because some people say we don't even need the. Meeting, 1429 01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:39,040 Speaker 5: right some people would be very, clear why in the 1430 01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:42,120 Speaker 5: world are we having the. Meeting we this is not our, 1431 01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:45,000 Speaker 5: pig this is not our. Farm we shouldn't be in 1432 01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:48,040 Speaker 5: this at. ALL i disagree with. Them of, course you 1433 01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:50,400 Speaker 5: might agree with. Them we may have a disagreement about, 1434 01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:53,439 Speaker 5: this and that's all. Right but as For trump in this, 1435 01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:58,960 Speaker 5: MEETING i want them to be forthright with. Us what 1436 01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:01,560 Speaker 5: Did putin? Say is there a way to end? This 1437 01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:03,800 Speaker 5: how is a way to end? This do we think 1438 01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:04,559 Speaker 5: the cost is too? 1439 01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:06,200 Speaker 2: High? Yes or? 1440 01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:10,759 Speaker 5: No i'm waiting on that, information and there is nothing 1441 01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:14,840 Speaker 5: else to wait. On there is only seeing if we 1442 01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:15,160 Speaker 5: get the. 1443 01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:16,920 Speaker 2: Info what is it that we. 1444 01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:20,840 Speaker 5: Learned everybody who's prejudging this, thing everybody who's prethinking this, 1445 01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:25,280 Speaker 5: Meeting my, god they're just so desperate to, hate so 1446 01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:29,240 Speaker 5: absolutely bitter and. ANGRY i got no place for. HIM 1447 01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:32,760 Speaker 5: i don't want any part of. Him you shouldn't be 1448 01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:35,760 Speaker 5: paying attention to. Them they have nothing to. Offer let's 1449 01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:39,600 Speaker 5: see what. Happens then we can discuss what we want to. 1450 01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:42,800 Speaker 5: Do I'm Tony. Katz this Is Tony kats. Today she 1451 01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:47,240 Speaker 5: went To martha's vineyard in the most tone. Depth dear, 1452 01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:52,680 Speaker 5: lord what possibly are you thinking? Of the mayor OF, 1453 01:27:53,000 --> 01:28:00,439 Speaker 5: Dc Muriel bowser is on vacation In martha's. Vineyard Cats 1454 01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:03,559 Speaker 5: Tony kats, Today good to be with. You trump has taken. 1455 01:28:03,640 --> 01:28:07,719 Speaker 5: Over you know you have a crime. Problem you're fully 1456 01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:13,479 Speaker 5: aware that you have a crime. Problem yet Somehow democrats 1457 01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:16,040 Speaker 5: want to tell you that everything is fine and that 1458 01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:18,479 Speaker 5: crime is. Down. Well which is it crime is down 1459 01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:22,160 Speaker 5: or everything's? Fine which one are we actually talking about? 1460 01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:25,680 Speaker 5: Here because if crime is, down, well then you do 1461 01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:28,040 Speaker 5: have a crime. Problem if there is no crime, problem 1462 01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:29,600 Speaker 5: why are you telling us about how crime is? 1463 01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:30,720 Speaker 2: Down very. 1464 01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:36,000 Speaker 5: Weird people just can't admit, reality cannot discuss, it. Honestly 1465 01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:39,679 Speaker 5: but that's not the story just. Now it's That trump 1466 01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:43,720 Speaker 5: is taken. Over you've got the police, Federalized you've got 1467 01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:46,680 Speaker 5: people being. Arrested you've got a guy throwing sandwiches at. 1468 01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:48,880 Speaker 5: Cops did you see the guy who threw the subway 1469 01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:51,280 Speaker 5: sandwich at? Cops turns out he works with THE. Doj 1470 01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:54,960 Speaker 5: he got. Fired you're so angry you're throwing a sandwich at. 1471 01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:59,680 Speaker 5: Police that's just that is just. Weird NOW i say this, 1472 01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:04,479 Speaker 5: experience don't throw things at. People it's just a. Mistake 1473 01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:07,720 Speaker 5: better to control your, emotions, right take it from, Me, 1474 01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:13,080 Speaker 5: please please do. That Muriel bowser after seeing this, happen 1475 01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:16,759 Speaker 5: and by the, way she had once asked For National 1476 01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:18,800 Speaker 5: guard help From. Biden what was in twenty twenty, Two 1477 01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:20,559 Speaker 5: so now she's getting. 1478 01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:25,720 Speaker 2: It now she's on. Vacation now she's on. 1479 01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:30,439 Speaker 5: Vacation her office is saying that she's dealing with a 1480 01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:35,200 Speaker 5: family matter On Martha's vineyard and that she'll be back. 1481 01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:43,599 Speaker 5: Immediately family issues require a meeting At martha's. Vineyard, LISTEN 1482 01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:46,360 Speaker 5: i have been involved in a lot of family. Meetings 1483 01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:50,120 Speaker 5: there have been big, conversations big issues about, moves about, 1484 01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:53,240 Speaker 5: health about all, money all sorts of. Things you've had 1485 01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:56,760 Speaker 5: these conversations. Too no one ever said we're assembling the 1486 01:29:56,840 --> 01:30:01,839 Speaker 5: family Where martha's vineyard. Fantastic i'll bring my boat. Shoes 1487 01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:05,599 Speaker 5: don't Forget. BIFF i like to have some cool apple 1488 01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:12,719 Speaker 5: juice in the. Morning who's doing? This this looks worse 1489 01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:16,040 Speaker 5: Than Ted cruz going to wherever it was he was 1490 01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:19,519 Speaker 5: going to escape the icy conditions Of texas with his. 1491 01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:24,000 Speaker 5: Family it was just a bad. 1492 01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:25,080 Speaker 2: Look it was what it. 1493 01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:25,880 Speaker 4: Was this is. 1494 01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:33,880 Speaker 2: Worse this is, far, far far. Worse this is. Crazy 1495 01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:35,280 Speaker 2: and you can tell. 1496 01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:37,760 Speaker 5: Me, well, no it's not a vacation all you. Want 1497 01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:42,560 Speaker 5: it's just, bad all. Right the adults are taking care of. 1498 01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:45,519 Speaker 5: THINGS i might as well. Relax that's exactly what it 1499 01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:48,960 Speaker 5: looks like every step of the. Way Now i'm curious 1500 01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:51,000 Speaker 5: to see what. Happens is it's only gonna happen for 1501 01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:54,080 Speaker 5: thirty days because that's all statutorily The president can do 1502 01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:58,640 Speaker 5: or Will congress extend this and allow a real opportunity 1503 01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:03,439 Speaker 5: for changes IN. Dc place your, Bets place your. Bets 1504 01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:06,840 Speaker 5: I'm Tony. Katz this Is Tony kats. Today find everything 1505 01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:07,720 Speaker 5: At tony kats dot. 1506 01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:16,599 Speaker 2: Com it's a big win and it's bigger than the dollar. 1507 01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:22,760 Speaker 5: Amount when you see That General electric is bringing manufacturing 1508 01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:26,559 Speaker 5: back to The United. States Tony Katz Tony katz, today 1509 01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:28,880 Speaker 5: good to be with you find everything going on over 1510 01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:31,880 Speaker 5: There tony kats dot com so easy to. Do General 1511 01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:36,640 Speaker 5: electric announcing that they are going to be placing a 1512 01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:42,480 Speaker 5: three billion dollar investment to expand its operations In, Kentucky, Georgia, Alabama, 1513 01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:46,000 Speaker 5: tennessee And South. Carolina they're going to add more than 1514 01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:50,280 Speaker 5: a thousand, jobs ramping up domestic production and modernizing plants 1515 01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:51,120 Speaker 5: in the next five. 1516 01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:54,240 Speaker 2: Years now you know That i'm not a fan of. 1517 01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:57,160 Speaker 2: TARIS i remain not a fan of. 1518 01:31:57,280 --> 01:32:01,080 Speaker 5: TARIFFS i have not seen anybody prove that the tariffs 1519 01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:05,639 Speaker 5: are absolutely perfect and working great and we're all better 1520 01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:09,280 Speaker 5: off for. Them we have seen that the tariffs have 1521 01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:13,760 Speaker 5: not led to calamity in our. One BUT i think 1522 01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:15,679 Speaker 5: the people AND i see a lot of people doing 1523 01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:16,559 Speaker 5: this on the political. 1524 01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:18,640 Speaker 2: Right See trump was, right tariffs are. 1525 01:32:18,680 --> 01:32:24,240 Speaker 5: Great, no you cannot ignore the wholesale price numbers being 1526 01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:27,559 Speaker 5: up point nine and say everything's. Great you cannot Ignore 1527 01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:33,519 Speaker 5: toyota saying there's only so long that we can engage absorption. 1528 01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:35,280 Speaker 2: Of these. 1529 01:32:35,640 --> 01:32:39,240 Speaker 5: Tariffs they had a thirty seven percent drop in. Profit 1530 01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:42,679 Speaker 5: they cut their forecast due to. Tariffs you can't say 1531 01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:44,479 Speaker 5: all is. Great AND i know there are people on 1532 01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:47,600 Speaker 5: the right saying, this AND i contemporaries are. Not some 1533 01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:49,960 Speaker 5: people far more popular THAN. 1534 01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:50,920 Speaker 2: I they're just. 1535 01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:56,560 Speaker 5: Wrong they can't see their way clear to saying the 1536 01:32:56,720 --> 01:33:00,880 Speaker 5: jury still. Out there's no question about the, border there's 1537 01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:04,880 Speaker 5: no question about the conversations of. Crime there's no question 1538 01:33:05,439 --> 01:33:11,160 Speaker 5: about this new invigorated approach from our, government our elected, 1539 01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:14,519 Speaker 5: officials that Says americans come, first and we're going to 1540 01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:17,960 Speaker 5: place them, first and safety and security. Matter on, that 1541 01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:22,720 Speaker 5: we have such tangible amounts of proof of success that 1542 01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:25,439 Speaker 5: to deny it is. Nutty we don't have. That on the, 1543 01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:29,160 Speaker 5: economy we don't have. It what does it matter if 1544 01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:31,200 Speaker 5: somebody wants it to be. True what does it matter 1545 01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:32,840 Speaker 5: if somebody, says, well you got to Give trump a. 1546 01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:34,960 Speaker 2: Chance what does it matter if it says you're not being? 1547 01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:38,400 Speaker 2: Loyal screw all that. Nonsense i'm dealing with the. 1548 01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:44,320 Speaker 5: Numbers insurance costs are, up while egg prices have gone 1549 01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:48,240 Speaker 5: down and gasoline prices have gone. DOWN i will cheer. 1550 01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:52,760 Speaker 5: It i'll say. Good not all prices have come. Down 1551 01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:56,200 Speaker 5: things are still way too, expensive and these are things 1552 01:33:56,280 --> 01:33:56,880 Speaker 5: we have to work. 1553 01:33:56,960 --> 01:34:03,600 Speaker 2: On tariffs don't help bring down. Costs they. Don't they don't. 1554 01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:08,360 Speaker 5: Because the issue that we might be having to engage 1555 01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:13,960 Speaker 5: is you mean, today, what, well tariffs don't necessarily bring 1556 01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:17,280 Speaker 5: down costs. Today but here's this story About General electric 1557 01:34:17,680 --> 01:34:20,120 Speaker 5: moving appliance manufacturing to The United. 1558 01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:21,759 Speaker 2: States so, yeah. 1559 01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:25,960 Speaker 5: These other things that you might, buy they are going 1560 01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:28,040 Speaker 5: to be more. Expensive but soon we'll have a lot 1561 01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:29,720 Speaker 5: of goods made in THE us and they'll be less. 1562 01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:32,400 Speaker 2: Expensive and that's. Great that's the. 1563 01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:36,559 Speaker 5: Argument, now that argument is poorly made because not enough 1564 01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:40,280 Speaker 5: people make. It that argument also has a, counter which 1565 01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:44,080 Speaker 5: IS i think it's great That General electric is going 1566 01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:46,519 Speaker 5: to put three billion dollars into THE, us AND i 1567 01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:49,400 Speaker 5: love the idea of ge being made In america because 1568 01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:52,639 Speaker 5: it's just a Very american sounding. Thing it's Freaking General. 1569 01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:58,120 Speaker 5: Electric but the tariffs on aluminum and steel. Remain AND 1570 01:34:58,320 --> 01:35:01,160 Speaker 5: i don't know about, you BUT i am pretty sure 1571 01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:04,920 Speaker 5: that when we talk about appliances like, refrigerators gas, ranges 1572 01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:07,840 Speaker 5: and water, heaters we might be dealing with some aluminum 1573 01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:10,519 Speaker 5: and some, steel and some of that may be coming from, 1574 01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:13,960 Speaker 5: overseas and costs will go up even if the product 1575 01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:17,600 Speaker 5: is made in THE. Us it is not enough that 1576 01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:20,040 Speaker 5: the product is made in THE. Us it is a 1577 01:35:20,160 --> 01:35:23,080 Speaker 5: question of where do the goods come from to make the. 1578 01:35:23,240 --> 01:35:28,600 Speaker 5: Product the tariffs affect, everyone and they increase prices the 1579 01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:34,479 Speaker 5: end the, end and right now we are seeing these 1580 01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:39,920 Speaker 5: companies absorb the tariff costs that cannot last for. 1581 01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:43,240 Speaker 2: Forever it. Can't nobody would do. 1582 01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:46,799 Speaker 5: It there is no, one you, know on the political, 1583 01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:50,320 Speaker 5: right on the political, left the political, anywhere no business 1584 01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:54,679 Speaker 5: owner you know who doesn't at some moment say to, Themselves, 1585 01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:56,240 Speaker 5: okay we're passing that cost. 1586 01:35:56,320 --> 01:35:56,760 Speaker 2: ALONG i. 1587 01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:59,400 Speaker 5: CAN'T i can't absorb that. Anymore we won't be in business, 1588 01:35:59,439 --> 01:36:02,240 Speaker 5: anymore we won't be able to. SURVIVE i have to 1589 01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:04,679 Speaker 5: pass the cost. Along it's just the way it. Goes 1590 01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:09,479 Speaker 5: everybody knows that it's. Coming yet some people want to 1591 01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:12,960 Speaker 5: convince themselves that it's it's just a it's just a. 1592 01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:16,479 Speaker 5: Figment and Then trump wants to do things like, say 1593 01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:17,880 Speaker 5: how dare you pass the cost? 1594 01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:19,519 Speaker 2: Along? No, no, no, no, no no no no no no. 1595 01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:25,160 Speaker 2: No trump looked at was it was A. J. P. 1596 01:36:25,360 --> 01:36:29,120 Speaker 2: Morgan here here it. Is here it. 1597 01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:35,840 Speaker 5: Is trump told THE ceo Of Goldman sachs to replace 1598 01:36:36,680 --> 01:36:42,640 Speaker 5: their economists over the tariff predictions right the Chief their 1599 01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:46,040 Speaker 5: chief economists warned in a research note THAT us consumers 1600 01:36:46,040 --> 01:36:48,679 Speaker 5: will end up absorbing an increased share of the cost 1601 01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:56,160 Speaker 5: Of trump's. Tariffs that's going to. Happen that that's going 1602 01:36:56,320 --> 01:37:02,720 Speaker 5: to happen if You, america we are not going to 1603 01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:08,280 Speaker 5: engage these wide breadth of tariffs on all these other, 1604 01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:11,120 Speaker 5: nations but we're keeping them On china because we're going 1605 01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:11,760 Speaker 5: to break these. 1606 01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:15,479 Speaker 2: Mothers in. Two the vast majority Of americans would do. 1607 01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:25,000 Speaker 2: This i'm, In i'm. In where do you want? 1608 01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:25,120 Speaker 4: Me? 1609 01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:26,800 Speaker 2: Chief where do you want me to be in this? 1610 01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:30,160 Speaker 2: FIGHT i am all in on this fight against the. 1611 01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:32,439 Speaker 5: Chicoms and, oh they can't own land in The United, 1612 01:37:32,479 --> 01:37:34,320 Speaker 5: states they can't own businesses in The United. 1613 01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:36,800 Speaker 2: States, no, no no break these people who are trying 1614 01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:37,800 Speaker 2: to destroy. Us in. 1615 01:37:37,960 --> 01:37:41,120 Speaker 5: Two get it, Done, donnie get it, Done donnie T 1616 01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:42,760 Speaker 5: we're all good for, it Mister. 1617 01:37:42,840 --> 01:37:43,519 Speaker 2: President right. 1618 01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:49,559 Speaker 5: On we're here with, you, targeted focused for specific, purpose 1619 01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:55,879 Speaker 5: rallying The american people to a. Cause when the tariffs 1620 01:37:55,960 --> 01:37:59,880 Speaker 5: first started getting, discussed what did we. Say we said 1621 01:37:59,920 --> 01:38:02,599 Speaker 5: that The White house was making a mistake because they 1622 01:38:02,680 --> 01:38:05,439 Speaker 5: weren't saying here's why this matters and here's why it's 1623 01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:07,080 Speaker 5: gonna be better for your kids in the long. Run 1624 01:38:07,439 --> 01:38:09,479 Speaker 5: you didn't bring people to your. Side you just said 1625 01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:14,800 Speaker 5: it's all gonna be. Great trust. Me the economists here 1626 01:38:15,400 --> 01:38:20,360 Speaker 5: might Hate. TRUMP i don't Hate. Trump he. MIGHT i 1627 01:38:20,439 --> 01:38:23,840 Speaker 5: have no idea who the dude. Is but it's just 1628 01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:26,720 Speaker 5: a rational point of view that the tariffs are going 1629 01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:29,599 Speaker 5: to get. Absorbed you don't fire a guy for saying. 1630 01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:34,920 Speaker 5: So you might fire the person who leads The bureau 1631 01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:38,400 Speaker 5: Of Labor statistics for not being able to calculate the 1632 01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:41,559 Speaker 5: numbers properly on jobs at a whole host. 1633 01:38:41,400 --> 01:38:45,080 Speaker 2: Of things on that, sure the economists Or Golden. 1634 01:38:45,160 --> 01:38:49,320 Speaker 5: Sacks, see that's the part WHERE i Think trump hurts 1635 01:38:49,360 --> 01:38:49,679 Speaker 5: his own. 1636 01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:50,240 Speaker 2: Messaging. 1637 01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:54,920 Speaker 5: Right we hear this from Doctor, mattwell and people love 1638 01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:57,799 Speaker 5: and hate Doctor Matt will always too doom and gloom. 1639 01:38:58,160 --> 01:39:01,800 Speaker 5: Man he really puts it out there very. Succinctly it's 1640 01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:04,360 Speaker 5: not doom and. GLOOM i am not doom and. GLOOM 1641 01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:09,040 Speaker 5: i want success for the. President the long run of 1642 01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:15,439 Speaker 5: tariffs doesn't seem to bring. Success it, doesn't but it's 1643 01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:15,960 Speaker 5: brought us. 1644 01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:20,439 Speaker 2: Ge you can clearly draw the. 1645 01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:24,519 Speaker 5: Line you can draw the line from one place to the. Other, 1646 01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:29,640 Speaker 5: now the tire of conversation and the pressure to this 1647 01:39:29,800 --> 01:39:34,040 Speaker 5: happening in THE. Us the, big, big big part of 1648 01:39:34,120 --> 01:39:40,040 Speaker 5: this is Leaving china and stop producing In. China we 1649 01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:42,439 Speaker 5: need to be a nation that is very focused on, 1650 01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:47,240 Speaker 5: this and we have not yet heard of the incentives 1651 01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:51,240 Speaker 5: to do. So, now when it comes to why aren't 1652 01:39:51,240 --> 01:39:54,240 Speaker 5: you building in The United? STATES i don't mind rough 1653 01:39:54,280 --> 01:39:58,679 Speaker 5: and tumble with. COMPANIES i. Don't but since the answer 1654 01:39:58,760 --> 01:40:02,720 Speaker 5: in so many cases is the regulatory burden here is 1655 01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:05,320 Speaker 5: freaking impossible to work. 1656 01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:07,920 Speaker 2: With we wouldn't be able to operate. 1657 01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:10,000 Speaker 5: A business if we had to deal with this, burden 1658 01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:13,400 Speaker 5: and the cost of our product would be x times, 1659 01:40:13,479 --> 01:40:15,439 Speaker 5: more to the point where the product wouldn't be. 1660 01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:17,719 Speaker 2: Sold it's cheaper to build. 1661 01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:20,120 Speaker 5: It dealing with The chi, cooms dealing with the, shipping 1662 01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:24,840 Speaker 5: dealing with their stealing of intellectual, property it still works out. 1663 01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:29,920 Speaker 5: Better we should be far more proactive in bringing these 1664 01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:32,240 Speaker 5: companies back to manufacture here. 1665 01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:36,280 Speaker 2: With the knowledge, that, man you don't build a plant 1666 01:40:36,320 --> 01:40:36,439 Speaker 2: in a. 1667 01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:37,600 Speaker 7: Day you. 1668 01:40:37,760 --> 01:40:40,000 Speaker 5: Don't it's like When apple says we're gonna put in 1669 01:40:40,200 --> 01:40:42,360 Speaker 5: hundreds of billions of dollars into THE. 1670 01:40:42,520 --> 01:40:44,080 Speaker 2: US i love every bit of. 1671 01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:46,840 Speaker 5: This do you know how hard it is to build 1672 01:40:46,920 --> 01:40:49,120 Speaker 5: one of those plants in the clean rooms and everything 1673 01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:53,680 Speaker 5: else with the chips and this stuff takes time a 1674 01:40:53,960 --> 01:40:59,720 Speaker 5: lot of. Time so it's not gonna happen. Overnight why 1675 01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:04,400 Speaker 5: The White house selling this? Story why aren't they selling 1676 01:41:04,479 --> 01:41:09,560 Speaker 5: this story? Properly because the selling of this, story AND 1677 01:41:09,880 --> 01:41:12,439 Speaker 5: i utilize that term because that's what it. 1678 01:41:12,600 --> 01:41:16,559 Speaker 2: Is if they sold the story, properly they have more 1679 01:41:16,640 --> 01:41:18,960 Speaker 2: people on their. Side that's what you. 1680 01:41:19,120 --> 01:41:25,200 Speaker 5: Want everybody together in what is a common, need or better, 1681 01:41:25,320 --> 01:41:29,000 Speaker 5: said a common, fight a common, enemy however you want 1682 01:41:29,080 --> 01:41:32,320 Speaker 5: to describe. It we are trying to create the better 1683 01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:35,320 Speaker 5: world where we are less dependent On china because it'll 1684 01:41:35,360 --> 01:41:39,360 Speaker 5: be better For america's future security and our. Grandkids and 1685 01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:42,760 Speaker 5: people will, say, yes it's about time we did. 1686 01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:47,120 Speaker 2: This we're in this fight. Together why isn't The White 1687 01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:51,080 Speaker 2: house doing? This this this so simple. 1688 01:41:51,240 --> 01:41:54,479 Speaker 5: Thing you think That i'm coming out here to Attack? 1689 01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:57,599 Speaker 5: Trump far from. IT i Think trump has to sell 1690 01:41:57,680 --> 01:42:00,840 Speaker 5: it better because his sales are pro right, now IS 1691 01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:03,840 Speaker 5: i got it under? Control it's, beautiful. Tyrets we're taking 1692 01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:07,400 Speaker 5: in billions of. Dollars it's all. Great goodbye now stop. 1693 01:42:07,479 --> 01:42:10,840 Speaker 5: Complaining that's not that's not a good. 1694 01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:17,200 Speaker 2: Approach that approach is The democrats approach To Joe. 1695 01:42:17,280 --> 01:42:19,439 Speaker 5: Biden there's nothing wrong with, him he's totally Perfectly give 1696 01:42:19,479 --> 01:42:21,720 Speaker 5: me the next, president don't ask any questions about why 1697 01:42:21,720 --> 01:42:24,160 Speaker 5: you don't needs ice cream and goes to bed at four. Pm, 1698 01:42:24,240 --> 01:42:26,760 Speaker 5: okay we're done, here DON'T i don't know if it'd be. 1699 01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:31,120 Speaker 5: True by the, way My trump impression. Sucks My trump impression. 1700 01:42:31,760 --> 01:42:35,040 Speaker 5: Suhuhucks but you. 1701 01:42:35,080 --> 01:42:39,680 Speaker 2: Can't sell that story because reality is, here AND. 1702 01:42:39,760 --> 01:42:41,479 Speaker 5: I know that there are people who want to sell that, 1703 01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:43,880 Speaker 5: story really want to get angry with you if you 1704 01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:45,120 Speaker 5: don't agree they're. 1705 01:42:45,200 --> 01:42:49,920 Speaker 2: Wrong we're not debating. Here costs are still. 1706 01:42:50,040 --> 01:42:53,360 Speaker 5: Higher some costs are, lower and yes it's worthy of 1707 01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:58,759 Speaker 5: discussion and, celebration but costs are still high and tariffs 1708 01:42:59,080 --> 01:42:59,920 Speaker 5: makes cost. 1709 01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:05,360 Speaker 2: Higher but tariffs brought us Ge how else was this 1710 01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:08,240 Speaker 2: going to come? Back and now how do we further. 1711 01:43:08,120 --> 01:43:12,840 Speaker 5: Encourage without a large panoply of tariffs more companies coming 1712 01:43:12,920 --> 01:43:15,679 Speaker 5: back to manufacturer in The United? States and of, course 1713 01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:18,719 Speaker 5: keeping in, mind is this a company or a type 1714 01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:22,639 Speaker 5: of product that should be manufactured in THE, us because 1715 01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:25,280 Speaker 5: this is where there's another. Divide we don't have to build. 1716 01:43:25,320 --> 01:43:29,080 Speaker 5: Everything we. Don't there might be some things we don't 1717 01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:31,320 Speaker 5: want to build because it's just too low. Cost it's 1718 01:43:31,439 --> 01:43:34,600 Speaker 5: not a high enough yield for. Us let somebody else do. 1719 01:43:34,720 --> 01:43:41,080 Speaker 5: It APPLIANCES i like being built. Here medicines we absolutely 1720 01:43:41,240 --> 01:43:44,160 Speaker 5: have to have created. Here you, know we developed them, 1721 01:43:44,200 --> 01:43:46,240 Speaker 5: here but we need the manufacture here where we're ALL 1722 01:43:46,400 --> 01:43:48,839 Speaker 5: i think we're all in. AGREEMENT i mean even. 1723 01:43:48,680 --> 01:43:50,439 Speaker 2: The democrats, like, yeah, yeah we're with you on. THAT 1724 01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:51,240 Speaker 2: i got to. 1725 01:43:51,320 --> 01:43:57,240 Speaker 5: Assume, GOSH i. Hope we need to be honest about this. 1726 01:43:57,360 --> 01:44:02,400 Speaker 5: Stuff because if people on the political right want fealty 1727 01:44:02,479 --> 01:44:05,280 Speaker 5: from people on the political, right maybe through pressure and 1728 01:44:05,400 --> 01:44:09,320 Speaker 5: cajoling they can get it from. Some But americans who 1729 01:44:09,520 --> 01:44:16,280 Speaker 5: vote see the thing and tariffs increase, Costs so you 1730 01:44:16,479 --> 01:44:19,479 Speaker 5: have to give them a reason as to why it's. 1731 01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:24,040 Speaker 5: Okay and part of that is we are in a. 1732 01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:28,200 Speaker 5: Fight we have to change what we do to make 1733 01:44:28,280 --> 01:44:31,840 Speaker 5: our lives better for the. Future and it starts, now 1734 01:44:32,800 --> 01:44:36,800 Speaker 5: sell it and then push the changes that we will 1735 01:44:36,840 --> 01:44:40,760 Speaker 5: make to help bring the right kinds of manufacturing back 1736 01:44:40,840 --> 01:44:46,040 Speaker 5: to The United. States and why it's important you gotta 1737 01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:51,840 Speaker 5: sell your story and it's a good story right, now 1738 01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:53,960 Speaker 5: we're not so much selling it as trying to force 1739 01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:56,320 Speaker 5: it down people's throats and, saying if you don't repeat this, 1740 01:44:56,439 --> 01:44:59,479 Speaker 5: story you're a traitor or not really, this that or the. 1741 01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:03,760 Speaker 5: Other and that dog won' hunt that. Dog that's just. 1742 01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:07,240 Speaker 5: Silly let's stop doing, that and let's start doing the right, 1743 01:45:07,320 --> 01:45:09,800 Speaker 5: things smart, things and go win this. 1744 01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:11,439 Speaker 2: Fight this Is Tony Kats. 1745 01:45:11,479 --> 01:45:14,160 Speaker 5: Today So Pete Buddha judge is getting hit from the 1746 01:45:14,280 --> 01:45:17,360 Speaker 5: left for his position On, israel which is to, say 1747 01:45:18,160 --> 01:45:20,880 Speaker 5: he tried not to have a position On, israel and 1748 01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:24,439 Speaker 5: on the left that doesn't work because the only position 1749 01:45:24,680 --> 01:45:25,360 Speaker 5: is Hate. 1750 01:45:25,479 --> 01:45:29,280 Speaker 2: Israel it is clear and obvious to everybody who is. 1751 01:45:29,280 --> 01:45:32,040 Speaker 5: Of a rational mind that the bigotry and the Anti 1752 01:45:32,080 --> 01:45:36,559 Speaker 5: semitism of the left is overwhelming and is the dominant 1753 01:45:36,680 --> 01:45:39,280 Speaker 5: force in the foreign policy of the. 1754 01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:42,280 Speaker 2: Party Tony, Kats Tony Kats, Today good to be with. 1755 01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:43,519 Speaker 2: You it is. 1756 01:45:44,120 --> 01:45:48,800 Speaker 5: Unquestionable so he's on the Pod Save america, podcast which 1757 01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:53,880 Speaker 5: is Those Obama. Bros and he's asked about halting weapons 1758 01:45:53,880 --> 01:45:57,400 Speaker 5: sales To, israel and he's talking about what shocks the 1759 01:45:57,479 --> 01:46:01,120 Speaker 5: conscience and images that shock the conscience so much of 1760 01:46:01,200 --> 01:46:04,080 Speaker 5: this is, Complicated but what's not complicated is that if 1761 01:46:04,080 --> 01:46:05,880 Speaker 5: a child is starving because of a choice made by 1762 01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:11,040 Speaker 5: a government that is, unconscionable he, doesn't, ACTUALLY i, guess 1763 01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:14,840 Speaker 5: engage in answering the questions and he gets all sorts 1764 01:46:14,880 --> 01:46:17,840 Speaker 5: of punch in the face for. It so he then 1765 01:46:18,040 --> 01:46:21,880 Speaker 5: is asked more specifically about, them and he says. 1766 01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:26,599 Speaker 2: He would vote for an arms and bargo Against. 1767 01:46:26,680 --> 01:46:30,320 Speaker 5: Israel would he recognized A palestinian state as part of 1768 01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:31,200 Speaker 5: a two state? 1769 01:46:31,320 --> 01:46:35,000 Speaker 2: Solution? Sure and should The United? 1770 01:46:35,040 --> 01:46:38,360 Speaker 5: States should The United states have a ten year agreement 1771 01:46:38,400 --> 01:46:39,639 Speaker 5: With israel for foreign military? 1772 01:46:39,680 --> 01:46:40,680 Speaker 2: Aid and the answer is. 1773 01:46:40,720 --> 01:46:45,040 Speaker 5: No that's The Democratic party line two state solution where 1774 01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:47,960 Speaker 5: moles gets the same, power because you, know that's who they. 1775 01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:50,799 Speaker 5: ARE a two state solution is only something The american 1776 01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:53,400 Speaker 5: left could think. Of nobody actually believes such a thing 1777 01:46:53,880 --> 01:46:59,160 Speaker 5: exists because it Doesn't arms in, Bargo, sure don't sell 1778 01:46:59,240 --> 01:47:01,720 Speaker 5: any arms to is reel and you, know just let 1779 01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:03,240 Speaker 5: them get slaughtered by their. 1780 01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:05,280 Speaker 2: Neighbors that's their. 1781 01:47:05,320 --> 01:47:10,000 Speaker 5: Objective it isn't anything other than the hatred of A 1782 01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:14,280 Speaker 5: Cassio cortes Of ilhano Mar Rashida tulib that has now 1783 01:47:14,360 --> 01:47:18,959 Speaker 5: permeated the, party and only A democrat Like Richie torres 1784 01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:21,680 Speaker 5: Or John, fetterman WHO i may disagree with about a 1785 01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:24,600 Speaker 5: bunch of, things is willing to stand. Up those are 1786 01:47:24,640 --> 01:47:27,160 Speaker 5: the men of the, Party Pete, Butter judge And Pod 1787 01:47:27,240 --> 01:47:31,519 Speaker 5: Save america not so. Much find everything At Tony katz dot. Com, Monday, 1788 01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:32,360 Speaker 5: everyone take, care