1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Lie from the Heartland and the crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 2: It sure is. Senator. 4 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 3: You mentioned that I know that you want to let 5 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 3: law enforcement take the lead here, but you just mentioned 6 00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 3: that you believe that this individual had some kind of 7 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 3: grievance not even related to the school. 8 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,639 Speaker 2: Is there anything else you can share? Not really. 9 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 4: I just think that they have to get to the 10 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 4: bottom of this. As you know, with these scenes from 11 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 4: covering so many of them, that they'll be rumors and 12 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 4: then they're not true and then you figure it out. 13 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 4: But I think this image of this gunman shooting through 14 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 4: these windows picking off these kids is while they're praying, 15 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 4: is something that's going to be with people for a 16 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 4: long time when you think about guns and you think 17 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 4: about as the mayor said, thoughts and prayers just aren't 18 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 4: enough here right now because these kids were actually praying. 19 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do want to listen to that. 20 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 5: I want to share with you how twisted that is. 21 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 5: This is what that was? His name? Brad Krasenstein? Is 22 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 5: that his name? Brad? I don't know. 23 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 6: His name might as well be scumbag McGee. Brian Krasenstein, 24 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 6: who put out immediately after this a church just got 25 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 6: shot up. A praying isn't working, Tony Katz, Tony Katz Today, 26 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 6: allow me for a moment to share a story. First, 27 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 6: some background. The background is that there was a shooting 28 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 6: that took place at a Catholic school in Minneapolis. This 29 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:19,839 Speaker 6: is the Annunciation Catholic School. It was during mass. Seventeen 30 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 6: children's shot. Two have been killed. Seven at last counts 31 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 6: were in serious condition at local area hospitals. 32 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 5: The shooter took their own life. 33 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 6: There is a tremendous amount of information about the shooter 34 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 6: that's out there on social media, some from sources I very. 35 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 5: Much trust, including people who are former law enforcement. 36 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 6: When I say I trust them, I do, But holding 37 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 6: to my own standard, I'm waiting for some other confirmations 38 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 6: before i start getting into who I believe this shooter is. 39 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 6: The senator that you just heard there, Amy Klobuchar, who 40 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 6: has already come out and said, well, this is about guns. 41 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 5: She doesn't know what this is about out. 42 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 6: But when you are a progressive and you are so twisted, 43 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 6: you'll say anything which leads us to again what it is. 44 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 6: She just said here with the question being asked by 45 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 6: CNN anchored Danabash. 46 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 2: It sure is. 47 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 3: Senator you mentioned that I know that you want to 48 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 3: let law enforcement take the lead here, but you just 49 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 3: mentioned that you believe that this individual had some kind 50 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 3: of grievance not even related to the school. 51 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: Is there anything else you can share? Not really. I 52 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: just think that they have to get to the bottom 53 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 2: of this. 54 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 4: As you know with these scenes from covering so many 55 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 4: of them, that they'll be rumors and then they're not true, 56 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 4: and then you figure it out. But I think this 57 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:49,119 Speaker 4: image of this gunman shooting through these windows, picking off 58 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 4: these kids while they're praying is something that's going to 59 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 4: be with people for a long time when you think 60 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 4: about guns and you think about as the mayor said, 61 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 4: and prayers just aren't enough here right now because these 62 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 4: kids were actually praying. 63 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 6: The level of evil in that statement, the level of 64 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 6: wrong in that statement. 65 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 5: The level of a total lack of soul. 66 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 6: In that statement, just like Brian Krassenstein, Senator Klobuchar, there's 67 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:22,239 Speaker 6: that leaves you a very special place in hell. Doesn't 68 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 6: leave you the same place as this shooter. Probably not, 69 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 6: but it's just pure evil. Prayer doesn't work, I tell 70 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 6: you now. The following story, the extent to which I'm 71 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 6: not even sure if I'm allowed to tell, but this 72 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 6: happened here locally. It's involved a friend of mine. The 73 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 6: story goes that a young girl the age of five 74 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:55,119 Speaker 6: is driving with her grandmother, who has been in care 75 00:04:55,240 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 6: of the girl since the girl's mother was killed, and 76 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 6: the grandmother gets into an accident and dies. This has 77 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 6: been a reported story. I'm not sharing any information there 78 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 6: that I can't share. Was it a medical issue or 79 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 6: something else, I don't know, But the force of the 80 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 6: accident was so great that the vehicle itself was absolutely unrecognizable. 81 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 6: A local er doctor, a friend of mine, happened to 82 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 6: be driving by and with the help of somebody else, 83 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 6: pulled this girl, amazingly alive in her car seat out 84 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 6: of the backseat. We're talking about a car that was 85 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 6: so absolutely devastated, so completely torn apart, that the literal 86 00:05:53,080 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 6: front of the car was touching the girl in her 87 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 6: car seat in the backseat. Because my friend is an 88 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 6: er doctor, he understood that getting this girl out of. 89 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 5: The car was not only necessary to be able to 90 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 5: check on her. 91 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 6: But Lord only knows the level of impact here and 92 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 6: what issues there. 93 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 5: May be to the neck to the spine, etc. 94 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 6: And through his training and through his knowledge and through 95 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 6: his years, was able to pull this girl out in 96 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 6: such a way. 97 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 5: That today was some weeks. 98 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 6: Later, she's alive, has the use of her extremities, eating 99 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 6: on her own, fully cognizant, cogent, and the last I knew, 100 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 6: neurologically intact. 101 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 5: When I discussed this story. 102 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 6: With my Rabbi, as this was somebody who beloe belong 103 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 6: to my synagogue. 104 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 5: A conversation came up that I will divulge, and I 105 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 5: assume my Rabbi won't mind. 106 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 6: Where the line that was used by God put this doctor, 107 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 6: this er doctor, this friend of mine in the right 108 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 6: place at the right time, to which I responded, I'm 109 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 6: not quite sure how you do that, because where was God? 110 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 6: Because this would be the question for the accident. My 111 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 6: Rabbi responded by saying, nature could cause a health condition 112 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 6: that could lead to an accident. One cannot stop nature, 113 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 6: but God can put people there to help. 114 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 5: When the moment is necessary. 115 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 6: I'm telling you that is a level of heavy and 116 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 6: a thought process of which. 117 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 5: Has stuck. 118 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 6: That this has been weeks, and I don't think that 119 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 6: there is a day that has gone by that I 120 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 6: have not thought of that, You know, I find myself 121 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 6: thinking of Christopher Hitchins often in his level of intellect 122 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 6: and his level of not only well read, but being 123 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 6: able to have a remarkable recall of the data, and 124 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 6: his commentaries on God and how religion makes otherwise good 125 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 6: people do absolutely horrific things. And I have seen that happen, 126 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 6: and I have now seen certainly I shouldn't say now, 127 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 6: but I've seen over the years, and certainly this commentary 128 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 6: the idea of faith in general. How is it possible 129 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 6: that the guy perfectly trained for the moment was in 130 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 6: the place in the time. Well, it's coincidence. Maybe maybe maybe. 131 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 6: What I have found myself saying about Christopher Hitchens is 132 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 6: that I do not know if he has right in 133 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 6: his conversations about religion. But he ain't wrong in engaging 134 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 6: the conversation so openly and so directly, and so clearly, 135 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,479 Speaker 6: and with such focus, and with such historical perspective and accuracy, 136 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 6: the likes of which that the counter so absolutely pales 137 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 6: in comparison. 138 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 5: But I do not know if my Rabbi is so wrong. 139 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 6: That there is a difference between the two things. That 140 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 6: accidents do indeed happen and was. And by the way, 141 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 6: I that is a speculation on a health episode. Did 142 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 6: that happen, because they do happen. I only look at 143 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 6: that that story from my rabbi and say to myself, 144 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 6: that is an interesting way to look at it and 145 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 6: has given me pause. 146 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 5: As I said every day since. 147 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 6: What I absolutely know is that the commentary of Amy 148 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 6: Klobuchar is not that of the intellectual it is. It 149 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 6: is that of the person devoid of any level of decency. 150 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 6: Prayer doesn't work. That has nothing to do with the 151 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 6: situation here, nothing to do with the situation. 152 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 5: You know, it could have worked. 153 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 6: Armed guards, maybe armed guards on the campus in that spot, 154 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 6: could have stopped a shooter from shooting. We're gonna find 155 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 6: that there was no security at this church. We're gonna 156 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 6: find that nobody in the church was carrying a firearm. 157 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 6: Maybe that could have worked. Are we gonna find that 158 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 6: the shooter stole the weapon? Are we gonna find that 159 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 6: the shooter lied like Hunter Biden did to obtain the weapon? 160 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 6: In this case, three weapons a rifle, shotgun, and a pistol, 161 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 6: all of which were used, according to the police reporting. 162 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't have an answer for you yet. 163 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 6: But the idea that because this happened during mass prayer 164 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 6: doesn't work is so criminally insane, is so diseased and 165 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 6: so twisted, and so lost and so broken of a thought. 166 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 5: That one wonders how somebody could put it out there 167 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 5: when I can point you to person after person after 168 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 5: person who will tell you that the prayer works. They 169 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 5: believe it. They believe it. 170 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 6: They will tell you that people who have been sick 171 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 6: were now not sick, that prayers from one side of 172 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 6: the world are felt by people on the other. 173 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 5: Side of the world. 174 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 6: This isn't based on anything what Amy Klobuchar the Center 175 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 6: is saying other than how can I most effectively turn 176 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 6: a screw? How can I most effectively be dismissive? These 177 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 6: people deserve to lose every election. These are not good people. 178 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 6: Whether it's Amy Klobuchar or Brian Krassenstein, this is diseased. 179 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 6: I have sources that I know, like and trust that 180 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 6: are explaining to me who this shooter is. 181 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 5: But I'm still waiting. 182 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 6: I won't share it on my own show where my 183 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,719 Speaker 6: name sits on the shingle, because my responsibility to you, 184 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 6: I believe is so great that while it would be 185 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 6: easy to do, I'll let other people decide to be first. 186 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 6: I will make sure i'm right. Amy Klobachar doesn't hold 187 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 6: the same standard. Thank god. I am not like Amy Klobachar. 188 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 6: I'm Tony Katz, and this is Tony Katz today