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Speaker 1: We are back. It is Week ten of the NFL season.

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Speaker 1: Off to Berlin for the Adanapolis Colts and quite the

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Speaker 1: newsy week here for the seven and two football team.

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Speaker 1: Back in studio, Kevin Bone. Shout out to Max Bone.

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Speaker 1: Great effort yesterday from young Maxwell. I hope you all

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Speaker 1: enjoyed his interjections throughout. Eddie Garrison, was he coming for

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Speaker 1: your job?

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Speaker 2: That's what I uh, That's what I heard on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people tweeting at me yesterday in my

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Speaker 2: DM's like, hey, you better step up your game because

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Speaker 2: Max Bowen was stealing the show.

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Speaker 1: Yes, may be slightly cuter, but you probably all thanks

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Speaker 1: for provide some more info.

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Speaker 2: Also, I want to add this, do I get to

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Speaker 2: play dad and you get to play baby this time?

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Speaker 1: Yes? And if you could describe how you were birth

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Speaker 1: into this world? I think Max described that at some point. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: yesterday of the pod. So we're back Colts Corner with myself,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen and Eddie Garrison. I do appreciate the kind

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Speaker 1: words about Max and it was fun hanging with him

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Speaker 1: yesterday and doing a little bit of work to say

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Speaker 1: the least. So this podcast will have a bit of

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Speaker 1: a feel to Okay, Soce Gardner, you know a few

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Speaker 1: more things that I've thought about, I've learned, et cetera,

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Speaker 1: et cetera over the last twenty four hours. We'll provide

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Speaker 1: all that. We'll play an interview with Zach Rosenblatt covered

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Speaker 1: Sauce with the Jets, of course for the Athletic we'll

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Speaker 1: play that we had him on the morning show. I

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Speaker 1: thought some nice insight into you know, Sauce's time there

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Speaker 1: and the different you know, regimes that he played for.

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Speaker 1: And we'll talk a little Falcons, probably not too much,

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Speaker 1: just with the nature of the news cycle, but we'll

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Speaker 1: talk a little Atlanta because although they're three and five,

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Speaker 1: I do think there are some legit skill players that

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Speaker 1: Colts I think have been a little up and down

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Speaker 1: real Hall of Fame type of players that they've played,

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Speaker 1: but you know, top flight talent. You know, Colts did

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Speaker 1: against Tyreek Hill. You know, guys like Pukinakua, guys like t. J. Watt,

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Speaker 2: My immediate reaction yesterday was like whoa, And then like

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Speaker 2: thirty seconds after, I was like, wait, two first picks?

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Speaker 2: which kind of expected that the Colts would either move him,

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Speaker 2: The ball was there where it needed to be, it

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Speaker 2: this is all along how Chris Ballard has wanted to operate,

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Speaker 2: would like to see, you know, how it plays out,

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Speaker 1: I think he will. I guess let me start there.

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Speaker 1: Simply, Eddie, you look back at the two losses this season,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. That's a good question.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Shane mentioned today, you know, the non rental aspect

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Speaker 4: to ask them about their cornerbacks, not Jets sauce, but

431
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Speaker 4: Sauce was the main part of the conversation. And the

432
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Speaker 4: Jets were like, yeah, we're not really training him unless

433
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Speaker 4: somebody blows us away with an.

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Speaker 3: Offer, and the Colts were like okay.

435
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Speaker 4: And then you know, you get back to now this

436
00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,879
Speaker 4: week and the Colts call again and they start offering

437
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Speaker 4: a little bit more, and as they keep having more conversations,

438
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Speaker 4: now offer more and more, to the point where darreon Mouji,

439
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,520
Speaker 4: the Jets GM couldn't really say no anymore. And you know,

440
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Speaker 4: they agreed on the draft picks, and then Mouji wanted

441
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Speaker 4: to throw in ad Mitchell. I think he was really

442
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Speaker 4: high on the potential. So you add him into that,

443
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Speaker 4: and you know, Muji kind of interestingly said in his

444
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Speaker 4: press conference yesterday, and this was kind of you could

445
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Speaker 4: kind of see it at the time, but I didn't

446
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Speaker 4: think they would train him right away, but they structured

447
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Speaker 4: in a way that would allow them to train him

448
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Speaker 4: if the opportunity arose, essentially, which is a pretty crazy

449
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Speaker 4: thing to admit, not crazy, but pretty interesting thing to admit,

450
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Speaker 4: because you know, that's the star player, and that's someone

451
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Speaker 4: who you built around, and you just announced that your

452
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Speaker 4: cornerstone a few months ago.

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Speaker 1: Zach, thanks for the time this morning. If we had

454
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Speaker 1: this conversation yesterday at nine oh five and I told

455
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Speaker 1: you Sauce Gardner was about to get traded, you would

456
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Speaker 1: have thought the compensation compensation would have looked like what.

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Speaker 4: Man, that's a good question, multiple first for sure, Like

458
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Speaker 4: that's what I would have thought.

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Speaker 3: That's yeah, yeah, probably, yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I but it's hard for me to even

461
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Speaker 4: answer that because I just like, it wasn't a thing

462
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Speaker 4: not even considered. So you know, like if you ask

463
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Speaker 4: me like the same question about Garrett Wilson.

464
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Speaker 3: Right now, I don't know that I'd have a good answer.

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Speaker 4: Probably two first, three first in a player or something

466
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Speaker 4: like something crazy like that. So you know, it's rare

467
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Speaker 4: that non quarterbacks gets traded for multiple first It takes

468
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Speaker 4: a really special player. I do think Sauce is maybe

469
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Speaker 4: better than some of the perception that's gotten out about

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Speaker 4: him at this point. He is a flawed player, like

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Speaker 4: he's not Patrick Sartan, but I think he's been one of,

472
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Speaker 4: if not the top five best corners in the NFL

473
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Speaker 4: over the last five years.

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Speaker 1: So could you delve a little bit deeper into that?

475
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Speaker 1: And I hate to throw out letter grades, but I

476
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Speaker 1: am the son of two teachers, so I tend to

477
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Speaker 1: kind of do that. You know, maybe early in his

478
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Speaker 1: career he was one A plus type of player and

479
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Speaker 1: maybe I don't know this year, it's you know, a

480
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Speaker 1: minus B plus if you want to get super technical there.

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Speaker 1: And also, could you hit on the how much shadowing

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Speaker 1: did he do for you know, a variety of defenses

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Speaker 1: he played for?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'll answer the second part first. You know,

485
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Speaker 4: with the Robert Solid defense, they had their guys staying

486
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Speaker 4: on their side, so they had Sauce Gardner on one side,

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Speaker 4: do j Read on the other. And he almost never traveled.

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Speaker 4: With this new defense, he was traveling a little bit

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Speaker 4: more and still wasn't like one hundred percent of the time,

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Speaker 4: but he was traveling and he was doing a pretty

491
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Speaker 4: good job of it. And then oh, you asked about

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Speaker 4: like the grades, so I'd say, yeah, A plus the

493
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Speaker 4: first two years, I mean, in all pro, your first

494
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Speaker 4: year in the NFL is pretty crazy, and I think

495
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Speaker 4: in retrospect, Jets fans, in real ess spoiler, they were And.

496
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Speaker 3: What that did was it raised the expectations.

497
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Speaker 4: So the last two years, where I'd say he was

498
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Speaker 4: a BB plus, probably they thought that he was bad

499
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Speaker 4: and that was not the case. The reality of Sauce

500
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Speaker 4: is like fans, not only Jets fans, but especially Jets fans,

501
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Speaker 4: focused on the things that he doesn't do, which is

502
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Speaker 4: he doesn't really get interceptions and he hasn't historically been

503
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Speaker 4: a great tackler, But they don't focus on the thing

504
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 4: that he does do, which is keep the receiver from

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Speaker 4: catching the ball, and he does it as well as

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Speaker 4: anybody in the NFL. Quarterbacks do not throw it in

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Speaker 4: his direction, which is why it's harder for him to

508
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Speaker 4: get picked a lot of times, because you know, I

509
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 4: think he think he averages a catch against him every

510
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Speaker 4: twenty snaps, which is the best rate in the NFL

511
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Speaker 4: in terms of like how how rarely he gives up

512
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Speaker 4: the catch and in terms of targets, he's like top

513
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Speaker 4: ten this year as well, So quarterbacks don't throw it

514
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Speaker 4: in his direction. And you know, when the Colts get

515
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Speaker 4: healthy and they have trevarious award it's it's going to

516
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Speaker 4: be very interesting to see how that goes.

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Speaker 3: Zach.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure you haven't been able to catch up with

519
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 5: saus just yet, and I'll probably do it on my

520
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Speaker 5: end here if he's available today in Indianapolis. But do

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Speaker 5: you get the sense that he even thought that was

522
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Speaker 5: a possibility on his end or that he was open

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Speaker 5: to that idea. I know he tweeted about, you know,

524
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Speaker 5: all love to New York, but it is quite the

525
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Speaker 5: flip from, you know, a couple months ago being the

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Speaker 5: highest paid, richest contract in cornerback history.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, when I understand he did not see

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Speaker 4: it coming at all. I don't think it was something

529
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Speaker 4: that was really broached to him at all. But I

530
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Speaker 4: think he'll take it in stride. I think he's somebody

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Speaker 4: that is highly motivated already anyway. He's somebody who has

532
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Speaker 4: been taking a lot of the losing that he's had

533
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Speaker 4: to deal with pretty bad. And I imagine that he's

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Speaker 4: as he sits down and thinks about what's going on

535
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Speaker 4: in Indianapolis and how good they are right now, Like

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Speaker 4: he hasn't been on a team with this kind of record.

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Speaker 4: The best the Jets were with him were six and

538
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Speaker 4: three to start the twenty twenty two season, and then

539
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Speaker 4: they won seven games that whole season. So I imagine

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Speaker 4: he's pretty excited for the opportunity to play, meaning for

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Speaker 4: football at this time of the year.

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Speaker 1: A flight plan that is a podcast listened to last

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Speaker 1: night was Zach Rosenblatt from The Athletic He joins us here. Zach,

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Speaker 1: I thought I heard you, And if I misheard you,

545
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Speaker 1: I don't know, blame it on my dumb brain. But

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Speaker 1: did you say at some point this offseason you went

547
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Speaker 1: to Detroit to do a little bit more of a

548
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Speaker 1: future story on Sauce?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I sure did it. So I went to Detroit.

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Speaker 4: The main goal was to do an Aaron Glen, which

551
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Speaker 4: I did, but while I was there, I wanted to

552
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Speaker 4: also dig into Sauce in his background.

553
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Speaker 3: I went to his high school. I walked to the.

554
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Speaker 4: School with the AD. I talked to his coach. I

555
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 4: talked to, you know, one of his old teammates. Like

556
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 4: I was getting ready to do it. I focused on

557
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Speaker 4: Aaron Glenn want to lead into the season, and my

558
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 4: plan was to write the Sauce story early in the

559
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 4: season after a win.

560
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Speaker 3: And so, as you can.

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Speaker 4: Imagine, the Jets just got the first win a few

562
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Speaker 4: days ago and Sauce wasn't even playing. So I just

563
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Speaker 4: like have not had the opportunity to write it. And then,

564
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 4: you know, as it happens in this job, sometimes you

565
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 4: put a lot of work into something and then you know,

566
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 4: events happened that keep you from me able to pursue it.

567
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Speaker 4: But maybe I'll write it down the line if the

568
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Speaker 4: if the Colts go on like a Super Bowl run

569
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Speaker 4: this year.

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Speaker 1: Maybe a snippet of your boots on the ground reporting

571
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Speaker 1: I selfishly, I love to see Sauce Gardner now all

572
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Speaker 1: of a sudden obsessed with the game of golf. But

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Speaker 1: I'm sure your boots on the ground led to some

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Speaker 1: other things there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'd said the funny thing about him was,

576
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Speaker 4: you know, he's a guy that they had him at

577
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Speaker 4: receiver in early in high school and he was like

578
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Speaker 4: buried on the depth chart. They had a cornerback that

579
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Speaker 4: like got injured, and you know, I had desperation they're like,

580
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 4: maybe we should just try Sauce there. They throw him

581
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Speaker 4: out there, He like dominates that game. He never looks back.

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Speaker 4: And one of his coaches told me that, like before

583
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 4: that had happened, like he has all these old dms

584
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 4: on Twitter from Sauce where Sauce is like, coach, I

585
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 4: think you should play me, like I think I'm pretty good,

586
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 4: and I think your guys are making a mistake not

587
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Speaker 4: playing me like he had the confidence like that.

588
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 3: The coach said he like he had confidence.

589
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Speaker 4: Before he even had the skills necessarily, Like he just

590
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 4: believed in himself completely from the beginning. And and then

591
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 4: you know he was he was out for the race

592
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Speaker 4: when he got Cincinnati. I don't even think he ever

593
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Speaker 4: let up a touchdown and and yeah, you know he's

594
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Speaker 4: a guy that you guys are gonna love there in

595
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 4: that lot, especially the media for the locker room. Wise,

596
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Speaker 4: the fans will like him until they get mad about

597
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 4: him by any interceptions.

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Speaker 3: I guess, like Jets fans.

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Speaker 6: I'm just curious before we let you go. Zach as

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Speaker 6: a follower of the NFL day in day out and

601
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Speaker 6: an objective guy, how are the Colts viewed right now?

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Speaker 3: That's a good question.

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Speaker 4: I you know, I think they were kind of a

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Speaker 4: laughing stop going into the season. It felt like and

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00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 4: you know, you bank on Daniel Jones, and but I

606
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Speaker 4: think there were actually I've heard just you know, listening

607
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 4: to podcasts about trades and kind of just you know,

608
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 4: canvassing Twitter. I'd say outside of Indianapolis, I think they're

609
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 4: getting pretty criticized for this deal because what they're what

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00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 4: they're doing, and it's a statement that they believe in

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Speaker 4: Daniel Jones, and you know, it's a risky proposition, as

612
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 4: the Giants saw. So I think they're getting criticism for that.

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00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 4: But the Colts believe in what they have. They're you know,

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Speaker 4: they're whatever, what are they seven and two and just

615
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 4: field like a team that can go on a run.

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Speaker 4: So I don't blame them for doing it, especially because

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Speaker 4: I personally am pretty high on us.

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Speaker 6: Gardner, Well, thanks for stopping by. We again appreciate your

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Speaker 6: time and your insights, and we will run into down

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Speaker 6: the road. As they say, have a good one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you two guys again.

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Speaker 1: That Zach Rosenblatt from the Athletic I thought that was

623
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Speaker 1: some good insight, you know, getting the variety of ways

624
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Speaker 1: he was used in New York Eddie, you know, from

625
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 1: a solid standpoint, a little bit more of a you know,

626
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: you're on one side, DJ Reeds on the other, whereas

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00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: you know, when Aaron Glenn comes in the fold some

628
00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: more shadow stuff. So I don't you know, I I

629
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: think lou Ana Romo can kind of control sauce in

630
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: a nice way on Sunday. Of if he wanted to

631
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: just say, hey, man, wherever Drake London goes, you go, yeah,

632
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: or very simple of hey, whatever X wide out is

633
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 1: on your side of the field, just play man. I

634
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: mean that's like, I think it's a very doable job

635
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: for him. I think Slot corner honestly be a lot

636
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: harder to come in and play on a short day's rest.

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00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: For what it's worth, they will only practice two days

638
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: before they go to Berlin, and they'll have a walk

639
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: through on Friday, which is usually a lighter practice. But

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00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a change with that. Any

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Speaker 1: Rosenblat thoughts before we get to I thought.

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Speaker 2: It was interesting that he mentioned that the Jets were

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Speaker 2: the ones that wanted to include ad Mitchell into it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I again I get that, I mean, yeah, again,

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Speaker 1: I'll probably hold my thoughts on ad till the till

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00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: the Twitter questions. Should we do Twitter time now? I

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00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: guess yeah, okay, let's do it now.

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Speaker 2: Was that's your son, Max? I mean he first he

649
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 2: makes an appearance on the pott, he steals the show.

650
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 2: Now is he submitting questions already?

651
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: Kevin Well, I don't boy, that'd be quite the feat there,

652
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: that'd be quite like the baby Boss action there from him.

653
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: So did you hear him pick? Did he say falcons

654
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: first for the first pick here in week ten?

655
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 2: He did, but we let the helmets talk right, and

656
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 2: he wanted to already make the pick too. He was

657
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 2: in the falcons, his helmet calls is that what he

658
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 2: calls him?

659
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: His chompers chompers? Okay, yep. He should be ready to go,

660
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: so we'll be outdoors. I don't know if we'll get

661
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: to the rascaler. I think if the German feel to it,

662
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: but we do need to pike a pick. This is

663
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: not Max Bowen though.

664
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: A question from Max. Does the Sauce Gardner trade make

665
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 2: you wonder if Darnell Mooney's concussion situation is more severe

666
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: than we thought?

667
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: Again, I don't think so you know, when Shaine says

668
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: the phrase like at some point we expect him to return,

669
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: I mean maybe that's not the most reassuring phrase, But

670
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, he's been present, he's watching.

671
00:29:58,480 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. For what it's worth. I haven't seen

672
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: Anthe Richardson in our practice. I've seen Veris Ward had

673
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: a whole lot more than I have Richardson here, so

674
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: and it looked like he was doing a little bit

675
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: of field work. So yes, I assume he will be back.

676
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: I don't I don't view this as a you know,

677
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: one for one And you know, I guess Sauce what

678
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: he's twenty five? Moony's what twenty nine? Is that right?

679
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: Something like that? I think on their ages. So you know,

680
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: if Mooney tails off at all, you know, obviously you

681
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: hope the Sauce continues his prime throughout this contract.

682
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 3: You know.

683
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: With one thing about Corners, though, it can you know,

684
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: I think it's hard position to sustain. I think when

685
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: when it goes, it can really go, and all it

686
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: takes is just kind of a little thing for you

687
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: to be maybe susceptible out there. But when you think

688
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: about it, you know, I know the Jets also at

689
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: DJ Reid. But like when you're facing Denver, there is

690
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: a thought of, hey, man, if we're gonna throw Patrick's

691
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: r tan, we better be damn sure. Yeah that we're

692
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: right on this. And now, well, if you say that

693
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: about Sauce Gardner, throwing at Mooney Ward is nothing easy. No,

694
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: browing Kenny More in the slot's nothing easy. Not to

695
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: mention what your pass rush, you know, should look like,

696
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: you know, all the near misses that that Latsu's had, Yeah,

697
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: you know, does he finally get home with some of

698
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: the stuff.

699
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: Do we see more of those crazy blitzes too?

700
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 3: Well?

701
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: Certainly, I mean you would think that that allows you

702
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: to be much more of a you know, exotic blitzing

703
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: pressure look team, because hey, those guys on an island,

704
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna allow that to happen.

705
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 2: Randall states, I guess this means we're keeping Daniel Jones

706
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: without two first rounders, correct.

707
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a fair statement to make. And Eddie,

708
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: I think it's a fair statement to say that Chris

709
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: Boward's going nowhere. Yeah, I mean, I don't so what

710
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: ballards through twenty twenty six, right, I I don't know.

711
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: Maybe that might be something that you would I don't

712
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: know how the extension game will look obviously with Carli

713
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: or say Gordon, we don't know. But I just don't

714
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: think as an owner you necessarily let your GM do

715
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: something like that. If you think that you're going to

716
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: move that person, I think it would be a disservice

717
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: to your next GM and whatever. You know, attraction, maybe

718
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: your job is going to have or whatever rebuild you

719
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: feel like. And I was reminded of that so often

720
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: yesterday Eddie. Just how quickly things have changed in two months? Yeah,

721
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: I mean, isn't it amazing? Yeah, how quickly we talk

722
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: about like a name of Daniel Jones or a name

723
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: of Chris Ballard, and how quickly organizationally. It's also viewed,

724
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: you know, fans, I get you can be pushed and

725
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: pulled in like emotional roller coasters, but for you know,

726
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: eight games, I guess, nine games of a season for

727
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,479
Speaker 1: you to be doing some of the things like can

728
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: you imagine saying back in September, Hey, at the midway

729
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: point of the season, the Cults are going to make

730
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: the NFL trade deadline move of the year, and they're

731
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: going to be having the best point if I assume they

732
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: have the best point differential, still I don't. I guess

733
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: I should look that up, you know, the best record,

734
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: the best point differential in the league.

735
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they still have the best point to referentially.

736
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's just kind of insane how it has changed.

737
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean to get back to Randall's point.

738
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: You know, I know I've told the story before, but

739
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: you know, Green Bay had some interest in Jonathan Taylor

740
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: back a couple of years ago, but their hesitancy and

741
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: given India first round pick was because they weren't sure

742
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: about Jordan Love. Well, if you're giving up your next

743
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: two first round picks like the Colts just did, and

744
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: I I hear the crowd out there that says this

745
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: is too rich. Yeah, like I can hear that crowd.

746
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: I can definitely listen to that, and I know that

747
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: those people exist. And I know if we got into

748
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: into a debate class, you know, some of that would

749
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: be pretty darn convincing. You know, wiggle room at quarterback,

750
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: and I'd see wiggle room at edge rush too, you know.

751
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: With how the I guess quit he pays a free agent.

752
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: He's another one you throw on that list. Although I

753
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: don't think i'd be resigning him, but you know, what

754
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: does that look like? Samson epicom north of thirty Taekwon

755
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: Lewis you know a lot too, JT's. You know, it's

756
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: just a little bit of an unknown there from an

757
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: edge standpoint, But yes, I think this is Daniel Jones undoubtedly,

758
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: and now we'll see exactly what the what the contract

759
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: looks like.

760
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,959
Speaker 2: Trevor would like to know if Micah Parsons was still

761
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 2: holding out with Dallas, do you think the Colts would

762
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 2: have made the same trade today? Come around on the

763
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 2: compensation for sauce, But can't help but think if we

764
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 2: knew the Colts would be this good, if Chris Ballard

765
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 2: would have traded for Micah Parsons instead.

766
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a It's definitely also thought that I've had.

767
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: You know, I saw ESPN reported that the Colts had

768
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: I think maybe I'm putting words in ESPN's mouth, but

769
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: how I interpreted it was a backup option to Stars

770
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: Gardner would have been an early Day three pick for

771
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: Alante Taylor from the Saints. So let's just play out

772
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: those two hypotheticals, you know, fourth rounder for Taylor or

773
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: the two first plus A d Mitchell for Glex sauce Gardner.

774
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: You know those are the and those are two. I mean,

775
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: you want to talk about two very different deals and

776
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: to you know, maybe two very different players. But you know,

777
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: to me, when I said on Yessay's podcast, when I

778
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: heard the name sauce Gardner, I did not initially think

779
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 1: two first rounders plus ad Mitchell. That was not where

780
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: my head went to. My head was a little bit

781
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: more of a I don't know, maybe if you told

782
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: me a first to ad Mitchell, that's probably where I

783
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: would have been. But you know, to me, pass rusher

784
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: can pass rushing corner are very similar. But to me,

785
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: a pass rusher can go wreck the game. Like for

786
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: a corner to wreck the game, you really have to

787
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 1: engage them. Now, you obviously send quite a compliment to

788
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: that player when you don't throw to them. And you know,

789
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 1: clearly I've said this before, I think what Vonte Davis

790
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 1: did in twenty fourteen was one of the most impressive

791
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: things I've seen in being the Cold's best player, spearheading

792
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: that run and when Denver threw at him in that

793
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: playoff game specifically, he was outstanding and it's gonna be

794
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 1: harder to obviously, you know, just alienate one side of

795
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: the field against the Colts because you think the Mooney

796
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: Awards accomplished enough to more than hold his home on

797
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: the other side. So yeah, the whole Michael Parsons thing

798
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: is interesting. Would the Colts have and and correct me,

799
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 1: what was the Parsons deal? Was it two first plus

800
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: Kenny Clark? Kenney Clark. Yes, Clark is definitely more accomplished

801
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: than Mitchell, but again Dallas probably wasn't the Jets either.

802
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: You know, I get why the Jets would have some

803
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 1: intrigue with Mitchell, specifically from a young skilled player standpoint.

804
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: You know, when you already have Garrett Wilson here. You

805
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 1: know the Colts. One thing, I guess Trevor to point

806
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: out the Colts have churned and burned corner like no

807
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: other this year, and I get injuries to play it

808
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: into it, But think about it, Eddie, at the start

809
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: of the offseason, I don't think you or I thought,

810
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: and I'm going back to January, I don't think you

811
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: and I thought the Colts are going to give the

812
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: biggest free agent contract they've given to a corner and

813
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: then come back in the draft and spend a third

814
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: round pick on one right, So they've been spending on

815
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: corner well before Justin Waally towards Achilles or Xavian Howard

816
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 1: retired from the NFL. So I just don't pass Rusher

817
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: hasn't obviously JTT. They drafted, but like from the veteran standpoint,

818
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: we just haven't really seen much. It's been rather untouched,

819
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: especially when you compare it to a corner.

820
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 2: Tyler and Craig have a similar question looking at the

821
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 2: numbers for adding Sauce Gardner to the team, how can

822
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 2: the Colts afford to keep any of the important free

823
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 2: agents next year outside of Daniel Jones? Does this close

824
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 2: the door on keeping players like Alec Pierce, Brayden Smith

825
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 2: and or Nick Cross. Sauce is a great player, but

826
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: I can't help but feel like we got fleeced on

827
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 2: this one. I would almost assuredly say that it closes

828
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 2: the door on Smith or the book on Smith, just

829
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 2: because of the fact that they like Jordan Travis and

830
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: he seems to be the air apparent there at right tackle.

831
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would. I mean, I'd have to go back

832
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: and you know, really crunch some numbers, but it does

833
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: feel like Nick Cross and Braiden Smith those are the

834
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: two most impacted by this. Now obviously Nick Cross, you

835
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: don't have the clear torch guy like you do with

836
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: Jalen Travis for for Braidon Smith, so those would probably

837
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: be my initial thoughts. Like big picture, also, I think

838
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: you have to keep in mind like who wants extensions,

839
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: who deserves extensions? You know, Taylor and Pittman are are

840
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,959
Speaker 1: two that definitely come to mind. I think Quentin Nelson,

841
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, is do one as well? You know,

842
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 1: the whole fleet. I mean, fleece is a big word,

843
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: and I get that's a word that we use a

844
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: lot around this time of year. And you've got some

845
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: people that are like anti picks, you know, f them picks, right,

846
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: isn't that what people say?

847
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 5: Yeah?

848
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, who is is it? Less need?

849
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: You're correct? Right? Uh yeah, I'm gonna say the whole

850
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: Sean McVay action. But yeah, you know, those picks can

851
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: be pretty damn valuable. And you know, I think one

852
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: of the great things about the NFL from a roster

853
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: building standpoint is if you are able to hit on

854
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: rookie contract players, it does wonders for your football team. Yeah,

855
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: wonders for your football team. Bernard Ryman at left tackle

856
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: might be the best example of it, and like what

857
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: he was making prior to that contract contract extension. And

858
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: you know with the first rounders, the attractiveness to that

859
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 1: is again you have the fifth year of the team control,

860
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: which you know it goes up in price, but it

861
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 1: doesn't break the bank by any means. And that's where

862
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 1: I guess maybe the fleecing element is again, if you

863
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 1: want to break it down, you're saying, hey, even if

864
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: you want to throw Ady Mitchell to the side, you

865
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: are giving up ten years of if you're able to hit,

866
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: which I know is a huge question mark, ten years

867
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: of pretty good team control from a contractual standpoint, And

868
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: so what does Sauce Gardner have to give you to

869
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: equate that. That's where I go back to the three

870
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: things I said to you, saus Gardner, get back to

871
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 1: being an all pro, your defense being a top five

872
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: to top ten seven unit, and my team expectations are

873
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: for you to be in the AC Title Game this

874
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 1: year and to get to a Super Bowl at some point. Yeah,

875
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: I think when you send out consecutive first round picks

876
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 1: like I know that all professional leagues aren't the same, Eddie,

877
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,439
Speaker 1: But like, and the NBA has rules where you can't

878
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 1: send out as many consecutive picks as you can in

879
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: some other leagues. But like you have left yourself. I

880
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: mean you are pretty restricted and now what you can

881
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: do from an outside resource standpoint, Yeah, moving forward for

882
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: the next couple of years, it's a largely in housecre

883
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 1: situation here for you. So that's where I guess probably

884
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 1: some of the fleecing per se comes to it. And

885
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 1: you know, it almost feels like we're overly dissecting sauce gardener.

886
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, they don't throw at them, the

887
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: completion percentage is low, but then when they have thrown

888
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 1: at him this year, he's allowed some big plays and whatever,

889
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: his penalty per target percentage is a little bit high.

890
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 2: You know, he's very handsy.

891
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: Has the way the league's now changed a little bit

892
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: how they've been called, is that a disservice to him

893
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: based off where it was in twenty twenty two and

894
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. And when you say Hansy, you know,

895
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: is he getting called a little bit more for that?

896
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: You know, if you have that elite corner you're paying

897
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: and you're giving up that money. Do you feel like

898
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: he's got to take the ball away? Well, if he's

899
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: not thrown at, how do you take the ball away?

900
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: You know, these are all I think difficult things to

901
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 1: gauge with a corner. Pro Football Focus doesn't love them.

902
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: Next Gen Stats likes them a lot. You know, it's

903
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: just it's it's you know, it's not the most obvious

904
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: thing to evaluate. And again he's played into I think.

905
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: Different systems a bit from a role standpoint three questions left.

906
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 2: This is our ad Mitchell question from Chris. So with

907
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 2: ad being traded, Chris assumes Shane wasn't going to let

908
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 2: Ad redeem himself this season because he hasn't really played

909
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: since the Rams game. Chris was rooting for the kid,

910
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 2: but his immaturity didn't help his case yet.

911
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: Twenty four snaps in five weeks. That's with a bench

912
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: in Eddie. That's what it played out to for Adie Mitchell.

913
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: I am. I think in a ideal world, you would

914
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: have let the Ady Mitchell thing play out a little

915
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: bit longer. You know, when you drafted him, Eddie. Project

916
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 1: is a big word, but you knew some growth and

917
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: development was needed, Like you spent a second round pick

918
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: on him with the thought of, all right, day one,

919
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: he's not walking in here and giving you what even

920
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,919
Speaker 1: Pittman gave you as a rookie. You know, we feel

921
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: like there is some growth there, but have you seen

922
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: the flashes? And we're going to try and develop that.

923
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 1: And that's an important part of roster building. You know,

924
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: not every pick is going to be, you know, a

925
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: four year starter in college and produce at the level

926
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: that you have. And I'm not sure if I've seen

927
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: a player and I don't care if it's Reggie Wayne,

928
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's Alec Pierce, I don't care

929
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 1: if it's Jim Bob Cooter. I'm not sure hell Chris Bouard,

930
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if i've I can recall too many

931
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: drafted players that have been so universally praised by the

932
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 1: people inside their building, like Adie Mitchell through all the

933
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 1: ups and downs, I mean, still betting on him, still

934
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: betting on him. And you know it sounds like that

935
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: was the difference in the deal. So what does Adie

936
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: Mitchell become? Yeah, what does he become? That's a good question.

937
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 2: I mean he's gonna get the opportunity probably in New

938
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 2: York outside on the opposite side of Garrett Wilson.

939
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: Does he turn into Jerry Hughes right, you know, now

940
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes, I would argue I had more opportunity here

941
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: than Mitchell did. Now, I want to make it very clear,

942
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: Adie Mitchell is the own issues contributed to some of

943
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 1: the lack of opportunity that he had here. Is there

944
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: a little bit of an Aarony Smith Boston element to it? Sure,

945
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: the Colts have gotten good at white Out, so like,

946
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: you don't need Adie Mitch much. But yeah, to me,

947
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: this is not a throwaway of nothing like I do

948
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: think there's a little bit more there to him. So yeah,

949
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: I'm again quarterback playing New York. Isn't gonna do any favors,

950
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: but I am very eager to see forced eighty Mitchell opportunity.

951
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: Will it be a just he he just finds it right,

952
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: just because he's playing so much, and you know, inevitably

953
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: that's that's gonna hit. I know it's kind of a

954
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: dangerous game to bet on, but that seems to be

955
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 1: something like it would be attractive to bet on futures

956
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 1: bet on him.

957
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 2: Bailey's sort of question, if there are future games where

958
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 2: the Colts offensive line gets beat like Sunday, would you

959
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 2: like to see Daniel Jones look to run more? Bailey

960
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 2: figures the Colts would, or Bailey figures we would see

961
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 2: way more of his legs this season, and that hasn't

962
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 2: been the case. He hasn't needed to to be fair.

963
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: Right, And that last part I think is intriguing. You know,

964
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: do you have a few more design runs in the

965
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: back pocket? Can you fool some defenses a little bit

966
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: more later in the year of Yeah, hey, they're thinking Taylor, Taylor, Taylor,

967
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: Well what about seventeen putting in the belly and then

968
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: all of a sudden taking it out. Sauce Gardner just

969
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: retweeted me. I don't know Sauce even followed me.

970
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 2: He was probably he probably doesn't.

971
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: I didn't even tag him. So do people just come

972
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: off the practice field and search your name on Twitter?

973
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,720
Speaker 1: He reposted one of the worst videos I've ever shot

974
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 1: of him catching a ball in one on one drill

975
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,760
Speaker 1: Oh really, which also included the guys I haven't spotted

976
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 1: on the practice field. I did appreciate him wearing his

977
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: nice lime Green shoes today. I wanted to talk to

978
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 1: him about golf.

979
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 2: Well, probably because there was you know, one of your

980
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 2: colleagues tweeted at a video and he doesn't catch the.

981
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: Pal I know, and I've I try to make sure

982
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: that drops I leave out he did drop one of them.

983
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: You know, It's kind of like one time it wasn't

984
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 1: Richardson's fault. I forget who he was throwing to, Pittman

985
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: or Pierce. One of them dropped it. I'm like, well, no,

986
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: I can't tweet that out, and then like the air

987
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: Mount then Richardson Airmel's the next one. I'm like, I

988
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 1: only have ten minutes out of your people. Can somebody

989
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: get this right? So fans aren't just ripping me for

990
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: zero reason.

991
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 2: Here your fellow morning show host post a video that

992
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 2: went viral.

993
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: James did, uh huh of of that? Uh huh?

994
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 2: There was like there's one with Richardson was rolling left

995
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 2: and overthrew the stationary. I forget the guy's name, but

996
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 2: cls forever.

997
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 1: Yes, somebody, yeah, yeah, yeah, that does not Yeah, it's

998
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: not probably trust me. It's easier said than done, especially

999
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: when Richardson was uh in their practice. Daniel Jones design runs. Yeah,

1000
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: you know, like, what haven't they done on offense yet?

1001
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: That's a wrinkle that I think could still be in there.

1002
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: Not an abundant amount, but I'm talking a big third down,

1003
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: big fourth down late in games, late as the season

1004
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,959
Speaker 1: moves along. What you know, what do you have left?

1005
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: There's only you know, there's only so many wrinkles. Like

1006
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: I'm a huge under Dame fan. You know this full well,

1007
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: Like Jeremiah loved Jadarien Price, best running back doe in

1008
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: the NFL. Excuse me? In college? What do we see

1009
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: a two back set with him?

1010
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 2: Right?

1011
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 1: Notre Aame has been awful in short yardage? What about

1012
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 1: a wildcat with those two?

1013
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 3: You know?

1014
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 1: Those are some of the things that I do think about.

1015
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 2: The other thing, too, is like, has the last two

1016
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 2: years waited on stich it and all in his you know,

1017
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 2: decision or inclination of wanting to run Daaniel Jones?

1018
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, okay, let me be very clear. I am

1019
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: totally fine if they're lack of usage. But Jones, frankly,

1020
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: I just think I think that is more encouraging the

1021
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: Colts fans when trying to say that this is not

1022
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two all over again in twenty twenty two.

1023
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: He was a big runner with New York. To me,

1024
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: you know, I endorsed the Chris Ballard phrase at some

1025
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 1: point you have to deliver from the pocket. Well, Daniel Jones,

1026
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: for the most part is large largely delivered from the

1027
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: pocket this season in a big, big way. So wait,

1028
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: you watch Daniel Jones around. He sure doesn't protect his body.

1029
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, one Twitter question left. Then I have a question

1030
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 2: for you before we get to the Atlanta Falcons. This

1031
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 2: is from Daniel. Are we not talking about the fact

1032
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 2: that the Colts were an on site kick away from

1033
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 2: a chance to tie at the end. I know the

1034
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 2: success of that plus a hil Mary is long, but

1035
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 2: even being in that situation with six turnovers is crazy.

1036
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 2: Shows the fight of the team, and I believe that

1037
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 2: this was just a doomsday Most of the time. I

1038
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 2: feel like the Colts get one or two of those

1039
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 2: turnovers back by Lineman recovering the fumble, but they all

1040
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 2: bounced the Steelers way on Sunday to the Victor goes

1041
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 2: the spoils. Steelers created the opportunity for those turnovers and

1042
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 2: deserved to get them, But Man felt like all the

1043
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 2: balls bounced right to them.

1044
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: Well, I'm trying to think on fumble luck. I guess

1045
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: downs is a moth Jones recover. You recover two of

1046
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: the three with Jones Pittsburgh recover two of the three.

1047
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: Is that right? I think you got on one of them.

1048
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: Trying to think who got on it, But I think

1049
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 1: that's right. I mean the tiped interception. I frankly, I

1050
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: think you were a You were kind of due for

1051
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: one to go against you. Be if you get like

1052
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: three balls bat at the line of scrimmage in a game,

1053
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: you deserve to have one of them picked off. That's

1054
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: like just a general rule that I have. Yeah, I

1055
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, you know what, Budda Baker drops

1056
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: a pick, Miami dude drops a pick.

1057
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,240
Speaker 2: Six eight four fumbles, three lost.

1058
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so yeah, you got one of them outside

1059
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 1: of the bounce them off there. Tyler Warren had the recovery.

1060
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 1: By the way, you create your own luck. I think

1061
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 1: I've said that a lot. Obviously, the Kenny fumble was

1062
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: huge at the end, But I don't know, you're one.

1063
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: Michael Badgley missed from fifty two away from that game

1064
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: being over five minutes to go, like when you get

1065
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: into those settings, Eddie, when you're down like that late,

1066
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: the parlay you have to hit is like seventeen in

1067
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: a row thing literally, Like I mean again, all it

1068
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: takes is like one badly field goal to miss, or

1069
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: Roman Wilson not fumbling the football.

1070
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 2: And making a stupid decision to try to you know,

1071
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 2: jump over whoever was trying to tackle him.

1072
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 1: Right, So, I I mean, I guess you commend the fight.

1073
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, there was a little bit of that.

1074
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: I thought there was a little too much of that. Frankly,

1075
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: post game was like, all right, you know whatever, you

1076
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: got beat, you got beat handily. Just chalk it up

1077
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: and move on life in the NFL.

1078
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 2: In conclusion, here, this is the question I had for you.

1079
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 2: I mean, we talked about Jalen Jones earlier, but what

1080
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 2: does this mean going forward for Justin Wally. I know

1081
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 2: he's not playing this year, obviously, but this is a

1082
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 2: guy that Chris Ballard felt that he needed to draft

1083
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 2: this past April. They drafted him. He was having an

1084
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 2: excellent camp and rookie mini camp, ohtas you name it,

1085
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 2: and was pretty much the starter right away. On the

1086
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 2: opposite side of Tavarious Ward with the addition now Sauce Gardner,

1087
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 2: what does this mean for Justin Wally?

1088
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: I assume he is still viewed as the nickel of

1089
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: the future. Just to start there now for twenty twenty six,

1090
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: is it a little murkier? Yeah, but you know again,

1091
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,720
Speaker 1: depth at corner and a guy coming off a torn

1092
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: acl You know, I don't know if you wanted to

1093
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 1: necessarily sharpie him him him in, and I think it's

1094
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 1: nice to kind of let him ease back into it there.

1095
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's probably how I look at it. Kenny's

1096
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: got what two more years left on the deal, I

1097
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: want to say, So that's probably how I would look

1098
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 1: at that. All right, let's gett some falcons thoughts here,

1099
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: colt Indy report Pittman didn't practice because of a galoot?

1100
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: Is that your butt?

1101
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the bottom of your cheek? Look at it's

1102
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 2: right you anatomy. It's uh, it's like the bottom of

1103
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 2: your chill.

1104
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: Giants guy over here, Ken Jennings, Eddie Garrison personal for

1105
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: Ma Gonzolve as they list Sauce of full Well going

1106
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,959
Speaker 1: into all the reps I saw, but who cares?

1107
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 3: What is that?

1108
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 1: Sevent d MP's am I reading that correctly? One seven

1109
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: Kenny Moore that seems to be kind of where it's

1110
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: going with him before is Buckner a neck? I never

1111
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: like to see next man?

1112
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 2: Really, I mean, do you know?

1113
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: I mean it's Buckner? He literally is a just a

1114
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 1: Greek god.

1115
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 2: No, Anthony Gould. Taekwon lewis growing issue. That's an interesting

1116
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 2: one because he was a full participant.

1117
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,439
Speaker 1: What I know, the Taikwon thing was kind of weird.

1118
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 2: Maybe he just had like a setback in the recovery process.

1119
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 2: That would be my guest there, KB, unless they're just

1120
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 2: holding them out a couple extra weeks going to bye

1121
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,919
Speaker 2: week next comes back out healthy on the other side

1122
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 2: of the you know, the bye week after facing the Falcons.

1123
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 2: On the injury report side for Atlanta, Chris Lindstrom is

1124
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 2: one of their starting guards where he Morris told reporters

1125
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:32,240
Speaker 2: today that he's considered day to day with a foot injury.

1126
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 2: Morris also commented on Matthew bergeron their other starting guard.

1127
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 2: He is considered week to week and likely will not

1128
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 2: play against the Indianapolis Colts this week. No update on

1129
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 2: Leonard Floyd, though uh he suffered a hamstring issue injury

1130
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 2: in their lost Sunday to the New England Patriots. Obviously,

1131
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 2: you know the names on offense, quarterback Michael Pennix Junior,

1132
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 2: running back Bjeon Robinson, wide receivers Drake London and Ray

1133
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 2: Ray McLeod is no longer there, but Darnell Moody, Casey

1134
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 2: Washington is another one, Cadero Hodge. Those last three names

1135
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 2: are kind of up in the air in terms of

1136
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 2: production on a week to week basis. And then Kyle

1137
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 2: Pittsu has come on this year finally, after the strong

1138
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 2: rookie year for the former Florida Gator, Tyler Algier will

1139
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 2: spell b Jon Robinson offensively quarterback by Michael PENNOCKX Junior.

1140
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: I think I already mentioned that though.

1141
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,919
Speaker 2: But tackling is gonna be a big thing of point

1142
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:31,959
Speaker 2: of emphasis issue, huge.

1143
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be huge. You know, when you look

1144
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 1: at Atlanta Eddie three and five, one of the worst

1145
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 1: point in differentials in the entire NFC three game losing streak,

1146
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: I think you could chalk this up to the Colts

1147
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: just roll and you could almost group them in with

1148
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: the Raiders, the you know Titans games, you know, the

1149
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: the Miami game. I don't do that. I think you know,

1150
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: you just listed off some of the names. I mean

1151
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: Robinson and London and Pitts a little bit. We'll see

1152
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: where that out. With Mooney, I mean they have their

1153
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: own moon by the way, Darnel Money, They've got some dudes.

1154
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: And again go back to the star thing. Is this

1155
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 1: ty Reek and Max Crosby where they play the Colts

1156
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 1: and they're really quiet or is it Pooka or TJ Watt? Yep,

1157
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,240
Speaker 1: you know, and obviously there's a wide gap between the

1158
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 1: individual performances of those guys. But Atlanta's got a little

1159
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: bit more potent firepower with some of their individual talent.

1160
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 2: Jesse Base on defense, Kaden Ellis two is a very

1161
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 2: good linebacker for them. Xavi Watts I was about to

1162
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,439
Speaker 2: say Savior Watts secondaries, it's not too bad. And they're

1163
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 2: one of the best secondaries in the league in terms

1164
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 2: of stats in terms of pass yards surrender, they're I

1165
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 2: think top five in fewest giving.

1166
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,399
Speaker 1: Up six sacks last week with Drake may So, Yes,

1167
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: gonna be a great, great tackling game. Shout out to

1168
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: the game in Berlin, by the way, nine thirty, Kick

1169
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: Fox fifty nine. Locally, it's the thirty six anniversary of

1170
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: the falling of the Berlin Wall. Oh, that's right on

1171
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: on Sunday there. I'm sure you'll get a Bijorn Werner

1172
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 1: presence from his media standpoint there.

1173
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 2: So.

1174
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,399
Speaker 1: Yeah. Defensively, they've been really good Atlanta against pass.

1175
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 2: Their corners are Mike cues d offered and aj Terrell.

1176
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so again, like you said, with that secondary, there's

1177
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 1: a little bit more there. They are on their third

1178
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: kicker of the year. For those that not pay attention

1179
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: to the Patriots game, Parker Romo missed an extra point.

1180
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: Zane Gonzalez is who they are going with.

1181
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 2: Their former Arizona Cardinals came overseas.

1182
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, former Arizona Cardinal. You want to go first,

1183
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: you want me to touchdown? Favorite?

1184
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 3: Is that right?

1185
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 1: Just under a touchdown?

1186
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 2: Let me pull that up real quick.

1187
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: I think it's six.

1188
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 2: Colts and Falcons. The spread six and a half total

1189
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 2: forty eight and a half. These games always seem like

1190
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 2: they're lowest scoring and they're close, especially overseas. I will

1191
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 2: go Colts here twenty four to twenty.

1192
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: I'll go Colts thirty twenty seven. I'll go a little

1193
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 1: bit higher scoring there, but yeah, you and I are

1194
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: both kind of in the same margin. So yeah, okay,

1195
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: all right, I think that does it. Thank you for

1196
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: everybody for consuming the content. I know there's been a

1197
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 1: ton of it here this week. We will be probably

1198
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 1: won't have a pod for a while to be fully

1199
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 1: transparent with you. Here, we got baby bowing. It's number

1200
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: three on the way here. Yes, if you have any

1201
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: girls name suggestions, DMS are open.

1202
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 2: Ruby.

1203
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: You imagine I showed up the hospital. I'm like, all right, Maddie,

1204
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: let me open my DMS here before you start having contractions.

1205
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 1: I got a few things that I would like to

1206
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: go over. So yes, we'll be it sounds like you're

1207
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: doing that, or I should say, Maddie will be doing

1208
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: that coming up here this weekend, so I don't know, Eddie,

1209
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: maybe we take a few days off. Roomy, roomy, Mira.

1210
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, well you can go with RB there you

1211
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 2: got a running back.

1212
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: Look at that. You're just all over it today. He's

1213
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 1: Eddie Garrison. I'm Kevin Bowe. I ever have a great,

1214
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 1: great week, enjoyed the bye week, and we'll talk to

1215
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: you