Speaker 1: The Frames per Second Podcast. Welcome to The Frames per
Speaker 1: Second Podcast. Film review of what is it? One Battle
Speaker 1: after another? Yes, there's one battle after another. And to
Speaker 1: start off with some here, all right, So this was
Speaker 1: a film that was released in theaters this week. It
Speaker 1: was directed by Paul Thomas Anderson, stars Leonardo DiCaprio, Tianna Taylor,
Speaker 1: amongst others. First thoughts, what did you guys think about
Speaker 1: the movie? Right off? Stole with you. I thought it
Speaker 1: was good, man, I thought it was really good. I
Speaker 1: didn't know.
Speaker 2: I know, this is one of the questions, but I
Speaker 2: didn't have any expectations because I didn't see any previews
Speaker 2: or anything, or trailers or anything else.
Speaker 1: I didn't know anything about it.
Speaker 2: I think the only thing I saw was Tianna Taylor
Speaker 2: blasting the rifle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think.
Speaker 2: I saw that, like the tail end of that at
Speaker 2: a I don't know what movie I was at, but
Speaker 2: that's the only thing. I had no idea what this
Speaker 2: movie was about or whatever. So yeah, I was pleasantly surprised, like,
Speaker 2: oh man, this is actually pretty damn good.
Speaker 1: So you know, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed a lot. Actually,
Speaker 1: I saw the preview. I thought the preview was good.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to see too many previews to give
Speaker 1: it away. I saw the Rotten Tomatoes scores, like if
Speaker 1: ninety eight percent people were loving it, so I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this much be good or they just gassing it because
Speaker 1: Leo is in it. But this was a movie, man,
Speaker 1: This is like this felt like an old school like
Speaker 1: just straight enjoyable, great like movie. Like they did some
Speaker 1: really good stuff with it. I enjoyed some of the
Speaker 1: performances that will get into but I was thoroughly pleased
Speaker 1: with this. Mike will say, you agree, I agree. It
Speaker 1: was excellent. It was excellent. I will admit I fell
Speaker 1: asleep for about fifteen minutes, still had a lot of
Speaker 1: movie looks.
Speaker 3: But luckily, you know, I was able to catch those
Speaker 3: fifteen minutes yesterday when I got home.
Speaker 2: I'm interested to see what fifteen minutes those were, because
Speaker 2: once it got.
Speaker 1: Going, it was it was.
Speaker 3: It was the time jump, right before before the time
Speaker 3: right after the time jump, right when they said it
Speaker 3: was like sixteen years later. I fell asleep, and when
Speaker 3: I woke up, the daughter was kidnapped already or not kidnapped,
Speaker 3: but the daughter was with Regina.
Speaker 1: King ooh, and I was like, I don't know what happened. Fuck.
Speaker 3: And then if you have Patreon for is the mic,
Speaker 3: you'll understand why the rest of it.
Speaker 1: I was kind of thrown off, but I was I
Speaker 1: was likely to keep up.
Speaker 3: I just knew I was gonna have to wait and
Speaker 3: see if it leaked online so I could watch the
Speaker 3: rest of it.
Speaker 1: It was one of those what you said. Once it
Speaker 1: got going, it was like, oh shit, Like I looked
Speaker 1: at the run time and I was like, didn't like
Speaker 1: to another one of these. I was like two gays
Speaker 1: leo movies, bro, Like it didn't feel like that's me.
Speaker 1: It did not feel like two hours for five minutes.
Speaker 1: What do you think about the movie?
Speaker 4: I enjoyed it. Yeah, same thing. Once I saw two
Speaker 4: hours and whatever, I was like.
Speaker 2: I was so mad because I didn't know what the
Speaker 2: man was like, this is almost three hours?
Speaker 1: Oh man, I was it is three hours. You had
Speaker 1: to you had what you asked. Come on, you're talking.
Speaker 1: That's that's what that makes me. That's longer compensation. I'm
Speaker 1: not going by saying it's just questions about the movie.
Speaker 1: Play all that you realized, Like when I saw three hours,
Speaker 1: like who was spiking. But no.
Speaker 4: I was like, man, you gotta be sucking shipping me.
Speaker 4: And you know, the first part was, you know, a
Speaker 4: little slow as they were setting things up. But yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm with you guys, I'm in agreement. Yeah once once
Speaker 4: sixteen years later, now we.
Speaker 1: Roll like the first part because that's that was to
Speaker 1: Taylors like she wasn't in the movie after that. No,
Speaker 1: that was crazy. You know you need to be Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was afraid to even text y'all.
Speaker 4: Was because I almost said, hey, y'all, just heads up,
Speaker 4: is three hour movie, just so y'all can plan accordingly.
Speaker 4: But I was like, man, if I put this a
Speaker 4: three hour movie, then ain't going.
Speaker 1: Google get a response and to make that do that
Speaker 1: something game up? Up. I didn't see it till i
Speaker 1: I got my tickets. Yeah, I didn'tee it till then too.
Speaker 4: I looked ahead of the time because I was trying
Speaker 4: to figure out what time to go, how long I
Speaker 4: was gonna be there, so I could plan around everything
Speaker 4: else going on.
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I went to six fifteen. I
Speaker 1: thought I was be on the movies.
Speaker 2: I wanted to seven, you know, I wanted to seven.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I went to four. It was three forty five
Speaker 1: was the start time?
Speaker 4: Of course it started at four or fifteen six thirty
Speaker 4: bro walking out of it, I'm like, she's but overall, yeah,
Speaker 4: I definitely enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: Packed there too. A lot of people came out to
Speaker 1: see it. Yeah, I was.
Speaker 2: I was like, damn, I didn't. Like I said, I
Speaker 2: had no clue. I was like, why is it so
Speaker 2: hard to find tickets for this? It was yeah, man
Speaker 2: camp Creek.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you I was surprised when you said that on
Speaker 1: this mic. That always empty man. Yeah, I know you
Speaker 1: said that. It's always because I ain't got no good seats.
Speaker 1: All right, so I likely, like I said, we ain't
Speaker 1: going seen by scene, So anything that jumps out to
Speaker 1: you all the scenes bring them up.
Speaker 4: But and real real quick, for a story about Mike's
Speaker 4: viewing experience, you can listen to that is the story.
Speaker 1: But I think that's paton.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know what, I'll probably I'll probably clipped
Speaker 4: that and put it on the frames for second Patron.
Speaker 1: How about that makes Yeah, Yeah, that's what I do.
Speaker 1: They don't understand why nobody's up in Mike's did because
Speaker 1: stuff like that so great y'all mentioned Tianna Taylor. I
Speaker 1: liked her performance. I thought she did the job. They
Speaker 1: may have over sexualized up a little bit, but I
Speaker 1: think that was the row. What was the standout performances?
Speaker 1: Was she oversection just in.
Speaker 4: One part bit when when the when the sheriff rolled
Speaker 4: up on her, uh and she was walking around, uh
Speaker 4: like she had somebody on the knees and she's putting
Speaker 4: the gun at him.
Speaker 1: But he was looking through the binoculars. Yeah, and they
Speaker 1: had her.
Speaker 4: It looked like it was definitely being sexualized there, but
Speaker 4: it was supposed to be from his viewpoint, right.
Speaker 1: That's why That's why I did that, because it doesn't
Speaker 1: seem like you don't think even when they went to
Speaker 1: go blow up the tower, she was like, let's funk
Speaker 1: right here. I only thought it was just that one party. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did. I thought it was a little bit. I mean,
Speaker 1: it wasn't enough to be like I wouldn't I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have ended by man, I just yeah, the whole y'all
Speaker 1: thought the whole like well about like the whole was
Speaker 1: the whole thing? Like, so you go for that's not
Speaker 1: sexualizing her, I don't think so.
Speaker 2: Kind of was like, I mean, why why you have
Speaker 2: to do that, Like why she just can't be a
Speaker 2: fucking rel regular, But why she brought checks up?
Speaker 1: Like when she when he was explaining how they was
Speaker 1: going to do the whole heightst thing, and she was
Speaker 1: like keep talking and then went over there and they
Speaker 1: had six when she was doing planting the bombs in
Speaker 1: the court room, the whole exchange between her and the colonel,
Speaker 1: when she had the colonel and get your get that
Speaker 1: dick cup sexualization character. Sure, I guess I'm not seeing
Speaker 1: the issue with it. I don't see issue. It just
Speaker 1: seemed like a loaded It was just a note for me.
Speaker 1: It just seems like a lot. It just seemed like
Speaker 1: a little too much. Yeah, I think they can win as.
Speaker 2: It wasn't It's just like all your dialogue has to
Speaker 2: have because that's part of the story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so what she would I don't know. Interesting, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we really don't know. Or she's just a woman that
Speaker 1: likes sex.
Speaker 2: And then the situations though you could like sex, but
Speaker 2: like in these situations, it's like it's like black snake.
Speaker 3: Moan, You've never heard of people that get sexually aroused
Speaker 3: in extremely dangerous situations.
Speaker 2: Sure, get you, I mean, but but like they kept
Speaker 2: doing it. Yeah, so yeah, that's it must have been
Speaker 2: a part of it.
Speaker 1: I mean I just noticed it sound like prudes man.
Speaker 1: I noticed it. I didn't think. I don't have a
Speaker 1: problem with it. I liked it. I like it was
Speaker 1: just it was noticeable. I just thought it. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think I only noticed it from once, and it
Speaker 4: was visually, not just the character and the things she
Speaker 4: was saying, the things she was doing.
Speaker 1: I thought, that's just who she was, Okay, interesting. I
Speaker 1: think she did a great job. I think Champagne did
Speaker 1: an amazing job. Leo was okay, Leo was okay. I
Speaker 1: don't think he just bodied. You know, you're tripping point.
Speaker 3: I think I'm I'm kind of with Rod. I think
Speaker 3: that I think that everybody did a stellar job. Okay,
Speaker 3: I will I don't think Leo was just okay maybe okay.
Speaker 3: I think he was great.
Speaker 1: He did enjoy it.
Speaker 3: I think Toro was great. That was I think Sean
Speaker 3: Penn murdered this. There was not a slouch in this film.
Speaker 3: Even the new girl I forget her name already, daughter.
Speaker 1: Infinity. I'm not too familiar with her. She's brand new.
Speaker 3: I would and looked her up because she looked like somebody.
Speaker 3: But I think I'm I think I'm just racist. I
Speaker 3: thought it was a little black girl from from Last
Speaker 3: of Us, but that's definitely not.
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, she was great, sneaky. The performance from
Speaker 1: the interrogator, the white Yes, yeah, I remember, he's like
Speaker 1: everybody's like everybody, He's like, he's really good. He was good.
Speaker 1: He's really was good. I don't have a phone. He said,
Speaker 1: you know how many people sit across He was good? Man.
Speaker 1: I like that you brought him up. He was like
Speaker 1: he was a sleeper.
Speaker 4: It was scary, bro, you know how intimidating he was
Speaker 4: just people up and rest people and throwing them in
Speaker 4: and and they have no control, no over what happens
Speaker 4: to them.
Speaker 1: He's not funny. Nom I was like ship, I wasn't.
Speaker 1: I was like me, it was like he did that
Speaker 1: in real life. It was like the p a real interrogator.
Speaker 1: Do this, Mike, what is some performances say one time?
Speaker 1: What were some of the performances that you enjoy stood
Speaker 1: out to you want to talk about.
Speaker 3: I mean, I definitely think miss Cliche, but I definitely
Speaker 3: thank Leo's. I think his was fucking It was great
Speaker 3: and then again Infinity Jones I think might be her name,
Speaker 3: but I thought she was great. And again for being
Speaker 3: a fairly new actress to be put in a movie
Speaker 3: like this with all these top dogs and to hold
Speaker 3: your own that well, I think she has a fucking career.
Speaker 1: But nah, I think those two were great.
Speaker 3: And I didn't realize it was Sean Penn until halfway
Speaker 3: through the movie. I kept being like, he looks really familiar.
Speaker 3: But when I realized it was Sean Penn, I was like, Wow,
Speaker 3: he's really nailing this white supremacist, demilitaristic.
Speaker 1: Cop kind of roll. He killed it.
Speaker 3: Little thing he kept doing with his Yeah, like that talk,
Speaker 3: the walk, that the accurate shi but yeah, just the
Speaker 3: whole even just the whole idea of him being like
Speaker 3: sexually into black women but at the same time being
Speaker 3: this white supremacist love.
Speaker 1: What's your name sounds like a black name? Like black?
Speaker 1: I love black man? He was creepy, man.
Speaker 4: What was your favorite for you know what's interesting? Uh
Speaker 4: We've already mentioned a few uh standouts. And as I
Speaker 4: was sitting here thinking like it almost like it it switched. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, as the movie went on, Like at one
Speaker 4: point I thought Tiana was doing a good job, and
Speaker 4: then later on it was like Leo, and then towards
Speaker 4: the end it was it was Champagne, which you know
Speaker 4: I was. I was with Mike. I was like, I
Speaker 4: didn't know who he was. I had to look him
Speaker 4: up while I was watching the movie. I was like, oh, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: he's one of those actors that be around, that be
Speaker 4: in movies that people know and give him credit for.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I never really recognized he was in this
Speaker 4: movie Mystic River.
Speaker 1: Yes, the most popular ones. Yes, this movie was in
Speaker 1: this movie A big river. May not have seen this
Speaker 1: class actually, but.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so anyway, so uh and I thought he was
Speaker 4: great towards the end and had been in the middle with.
Speaker 1: But Niro but Marcos Benicio del To, Yeah, yeah, man
Speaker 1: he was. He was so smooth.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, he was get But anyway, and then
Speaker 4: towards the end, Willa like Infinity Jones like yeah the
Speaker 4: way she closed, man, Yeah, so it was it really
Speaker 4: at one point was THEMN there everybody just name was
Speaker 4: doing yes.
Speaker 2: Once what made it so good because everybody had great moments.
Speaker 2: I mean like everybody held their own weight in this movie.
Speaker 1: I remember thinking like get way through like you said,
Speaker 1: like everybody is killing it when Leo kep he's doing Yeah,
Speaker 1: the way he did it was it was good. Who
Speaker 1: was some of your favorite performances.
Speaker 2: I mean we we've already caused this man, like like
Speaker 2: I did not think he was gonna say Leo was
Speaker 2: all right man, because I take man. He was just
Speaker 2: so it was like solely good, like like in moments
Speaker 2: like even when he was like when he saw the
Speaker 2: sense and he crawling on the floor and.
Speaker 1: Ship that was so funny. Man, you got an sit
Speaker 1: down because it's because that's what you were saying. Really
Speaker 1: it was a gud. I love that. But I thought
Speaker 1: Belitio's performance was there was just because how he was
Speaker 1: so called but he was like he was, I gotta
Speaker 1: go pick up. It was a good great good. It
Speaker 1: was how he was acting versus.
Speaker 2: Right, because you had one frantic and you got one's
Speaker 2: acting like exactly so yeah that when he had he
Speaker 2: was trying to get the phone charge and ship he
Speaker 2: was going every socking he saw it because we do
Speaker 2: that ship.
Speaker 1: That was so good. It's so so them too. It
Speaker 1: was he was getting so frustrated, bro, like charge his phone,
Speaker 1: even the ship when he went like, look out the
Speaker 1: window and the ship fell. He was like, my man.
Speaker 1: So it was like, why was that? It couldn't have
Speaker 1: been written and it was just that it was even
Speaker 1: like a leading that's great lead into our favorite scenes
Speaker 1: throughout the movie. That was definitely one of mine, in
Speaker 1: the sense of that whole him being like he said
Speaker 1: he was the what did he say? Did he say
Speaker 1: Mexican Harry tell me? Is that what he said? Uh?
Speaker 1: He said, yeah, you know Latino Harriet. He was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm like Latino Harriet tell me. And then they walked
Speaker 1: through all this stuff and everybody do the protocol was like, man,
Speaker 1: definitely one of my favorite scenes, and I thought it
Speaker 1: was really interesting how they made that car chase interesting,
Speaker 1: how they were going up and down. That was great
Speaker 1: in the would be Quiet I.
Speaker 3: Mikel talk about, Well, first off, I forgot to mention
Speaker 3: that I really liked Regina Regina Haul.
Speaker 1: I always say Regina King Regina Hall.
Speaker 3: I just liked how she was so stoic and she
Speaker 3: said so much with her face without saying anything, even
Speaker 3: when they caught her and the guy was basically being like,
Speaker 3: you're fucking busted. Just go ahead and give everything up.
Speaker 3: She was just so good in that. But yeah, my
Speaker 3: favorite scene was easily the car because that was so psychedelic.
Speaker 3: You could feel it when you're watching that, and it's
Speaker 3: such an interesting thing to do. I've never seen it
Speaker 3: done either. But the whole time I fear, I seriously felt.
Speaker 1: Had liked you moving. Yeah, like I was bounced on Spike.
Speaker 1: I felt that was It was making my stomach tight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that was so good, and it was just tense.
Speaker 3: That whole final like thirty minutes was just so tense
Speaker 3: because you wonder how how close that car had gotten
Speaker 3: by that. Yeah, it's just like and then.
Speaker 1: And then massing each other and you hear the thing
Speaker 1: going off and he knows she close, but he don't
Speaker 1: know where. Yeah, I don't realize she just passed. Oh
Speaker 1: it was so good.
Speaker 3: And that was so smart of her to just speed
Speaker 3: off real quick and then stop and get out the car,
Speaker 3: because I was like, what is she doing? I was
Speaker 3: so lost until he hit it.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, no one in the movie ever
Speaker 1: done this. Facts really fucking smart. It would have been
Speaker 1: a heel like that. You had to be in a
Speaker 1: situation you can't see that. She realized that she was
Speaker 1: was she she knew what it was like. Yeah, when
Speaker 1: she couldn't see anything right, Yeah, and she knew how
Speaker 1: fast he was going to try to catch her, so
Speaker 1: he wouldn't be able to That was so good. I'm
Speaker 1: surprised no one has ever done that in the movie.
Speaker 1: Is very unique. Another one of my favorite scenes when
Speaker 1: he dropped her off, he was like, he couldn't kill
Speaker 1: her once he thought he was his daughter, the ghost,
Speaker 1: the colonel whatever.
Speaker 3: With the American guy. Yeah, so that part confused me.
Speaker 3: Why did the name American dude kill those people in
Speaker 3: the house.
Speaker 1: He didn't want He said she was a child. That's okay,
Speaker 1: So that's what I thought it was.
Speaker 3: But you had that code the entire time you were
Speaker 3: driving her over there, and I fact, so that's what
Speaker 3: it was.
Speaker 1: It was picking with him, even when he was trying
Speaker 1: to throw her in the car.
Speaker 3: See, I thought that, But then I thought that I
Speaker 3: missed something in that fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: It was just him having that moral code of like
Speaker 1: they showed reservation for him from the jump, Yeah, from
Speaker 1: the jump, from from the time he asked her, He's like, nope,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it.
Speaker 2: I don't care if you double the price. Yeah, as
Speaker 2: a child or whatever. And then he's just like, well,
Speaker 2: can you drop him off here? And then when he
Speaker 2: got in the car, he was looking at him weird.
Speaker 2: When he put her in this stuff in.
Speaker 3: The car, I forgot what he asked her. He asked
Speaker 3: her something somebody, Yeah, somebody and somebody come to look
Speaker 3: for you. Yeah, because it's almost like he wanted somebody
Speaker 3: to come look at so it's almost like he waited around.
Speaker 4: To see and then he called somebody to say, yeah,
Speaker 4: we got a body. And then he saw them gasting
Speaker 4: up the boat and he saw that, so.
Speaker 1: He's just like, yeah, they're gonna yeah. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: that's why he asked her that though, like you have
Speaker 1: somebody coming.
Speaker 4: He came up with a better way to do it though.
Speaker 4: He shot dude in the head and just try to
Speaker 4: bust in the door.
Speaker 1: Essential suicide.
Speaker 3: It seemed like yes, that see, that's all of that
Speaker 3: is what confused me, because it was like I didn't
Speaker 3: understand the turn.
Speaker 1: I thought I missed something. And then he just didn't
Speaker 1: do it very smoothly. He just walked in. He shot
Speaker 1: the one guy, then just walked in the door.
Speaker 3: It was like, well, you knew you were gonna die,
Speaker 3: So maybe he was just ready to die because he
Speaker 3: had done this so many times and he was just like,
Speaker 3: I don't want to be responsible for anybody his dath.
Speaker 1: I'm done.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because he was the one that snatched up the
Speaker 4: guy Billy Godo wherever.
Speaker 1: The guy that snitched Yeah, what were some of your
Speaker 1: favorite scenes? Because I got more to can't you know?
Speaker 4: I think so I do in agreement with which I
Speaker 4: think that might be the consensus around here.
Speaker 1: The car part at the end. But I really loved
Speaker 1: the whole.
Speaker 4: Harriet Mexican Tupman, things like that whole moment, from the
Speaker 4: moment he got there crawling on the floor, the nunshocks,
Speaker 4: and his.
Speaker 1: Calmness throughout the whole thing.
Speaker 4: It was so well organized, It was so well planned,
Speaker 4: and the way they just kind of played off each other,
Speaker 4: and even to the point where he went through the
Speaker 4: trap door and the.
Speaker 1: Carpet that I don't know why that was funny. It was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like the perfect into the city. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was perfect and nobody that's part of the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Pan They were all very calm. Everybody knew what to do.
Speaker 1: Everything was planned out for a hundred plus years or
Speaker 1: even just planning for right. Yeah, they probably they probably
Speaker 1: have like drills, you know, you know, and then everybody
Speaker 1: got out. Okay, you know, I thought that was so
Speaker 1: dope from him giving him the rifle and then when
Speaker 1: they and I love how you saw like.
Speaker 4: It's maybe you know, we talked about this on his bicycle,
Speaker 4: but I felt like, you see, like an age gap.
Speaker 1: So when he was like, hey.
Speaker 4: You're gonna take him to the roof and then you're
Speaker 4: gonna drop him off, get the car, blah blah blah,
Speaker 4: and the kids just okay, Yeah, he paced and then
Speaker 4: he bro He fell off that roof.
Speaker 1: That was the last straw. He couldn't He couldn't make
Speaker 1: that jump. I loved that because I was wondering, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: we go from here because he's not getting out of jail.
Speaker 1: And I even love how they set that up. But
Speaker 1: that whole scene the roof saying and stuff was great. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know why he tried to bro ron. I
Speaker 1: don't think he made it. Did he make it halfway? Bro?
Speaker 1: That's why I hit the tree. That's why I hit
Speaker 1: the tree.
Speaker 3: No one was expecting. I was like, whoa, he didn't
Speaker 3: make it right, he got caught. He fucking around, got
Speaker 3: up and got fucking tasted.
Speaker 1: I was, yeah, yeah, how's my gun? I got the gun?
Speaker 1: Got okay? Cool? Yeah he did make it. He gave
Speaker 1: went off the roof, like, what do you mean, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna talk it to you for some scenes, right, but
Speaker 1: I got one speaking to the age gap thing with
Speaker 1: can when they pulled up to the house. This was
Speaker 1: almost in the preview when her friends pulled up to
Speaker 1: the house. Conversation great, Yeah, it was like, why is
Speaker 1: car got to be like that? That was sounded it did?
Speaker 1: It was. I don't think he intended it to be,
Speaker 1: but it definitely sounded racist his head.
Speaker 2: And the thing is he has just asked her. You know,
Speaker 2: I just want to make sure you know what did
Speaker 2: he say? I forgot the word he said, but that
Speaker 2: ship politically red. Yeah, She's like, it's not that hard them.
Speaker 2: He answers to what's up?
Speaker 1: God like, which what what what is he doing? It
Speaker 1: was I forgot how you worded it.
Speaker 4: But but but to your point, though, I think it's
Speaker 4: it's good to like like He's like, okay, I want
Speaker 4: to want to do the spect I just need to
Speaker 4: help me out.
Speaker 1: I'm old because I don't know. Just point me in
Speaker 1: the right direction. I want to do right. I don't
Speaker 1: know what are some of your what are your favorites? Man?
Speaker 1: When he was talking to the to the guy with
Speaker 1: the phone about the colds and ship, what times you
Speaker 1: fucking was like, and I was a sneaking great line.
Speaker 1: Yeah I was. I know, I thought that. I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's not he was just the time he told him
Speaker 1: to cont remember when every time doesn't exist, just think
Speaker 1: that's right, Like he wanted to crazy.
Speaker 3: I was like, wait, did he just look at his
Speaker 3: watch and see that was literally yeah, he's.
Speaker 1: So good man, he said, it's so subten. It felt
Speaker 1: like you had that conversation with customer service person or
Speaker 1: something and they just not helping you, like like let
Speaker 1: me let me speak to your manner.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know another part of how times have changed.
Speaker 4: When the guy was like, you're triggering.
Speaker 1: Me like my space. I thought it was a young
Speaker 1: white guy and he was like, you fucking liberal. What
Speaker 1: do you called it? An audio trigger? This is an
Speaker 1: audio this is an audio trigger. But but but it's
Speaker 1: I love that he said it because sometimes they do
Speaker 1: be on that little stupid ass ship. Bro. Stop you
Speaker 1: going to this train.
Speaker 4: With these triggers and all this other stuff. Bro, this
Speaker 4: guy is distraught you. He said it right, He said,
Speaker 4: you just caught long. Yeah, you know who I got
Speaker 4: all this information? He said, you called me.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. It was great though. He was your
Speaker 1: commanding Officely, I know you fucking got on. I know
Speaker 1: you got. He's like, I wanted I got the right
Speaker 1: way I want to. He was after some white. I
Speaker 1: was just carrying a moment right there. Got this mother.
Speaker 1: He mad him, man, super liberal white. And then he
Speaker 1: sp remember the past word that got improved Michael Mexican
Speaker 1: shade pussy. That's his favorite thing. He was like, I
Speaker 1: know you're gonna notice what's my favorite? Like do you
Speaker 1: say that early in the movie. And I think they
Speaker 1: were talking about it when they were like doing so okay,
Speaker 1: it was like this is vabe. It was like, man,
Speaker 1: that's a hero. Man apologized. That was good fucking man,
Speaker 1: y'all have said most of it. Oh, I like, I
Speaker 1: like the the paternity test ship was int was good too.
Speaker 1: I like that that ship was in You didn't like
Speaker 1: that one No, I like the scene. It wasn't intense
Speaker 1: to me because the second I saw her pregnant, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, it's you thought that. Yeah you didn't.
Speaker 1: I thought it kind of like they wouldn't. I think
Speaker 1: I would do that. I know it would be a
Speaker 1: major plot point like that. Yeah, I thought that.
Speaker 3: The second I saw her shooting the gun pregnant, I
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, that's shop.
Speaker 1: Was more so about the intensity of this. It was
Speaker 1: just the scene. The way they executed that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, scene was dope with the wide shots of that place,
Speaker 2: and he was like, you're thinking.
Speaker 1: Of my daughter, right, gay? I'm not gay like your
Speaker 1: shirt some think homosexual. Oh man, this movie was so good.
Speaker 1: It was this was so good, bro. It was tight
Speaker 1: his head think I'm homosexual.
Speaker 2: I like the secret Society scenes be Coulse. That just
Speaker 2: showed like, you know, like you know, these motherfuckers got
Speaker 2: got this.
Speaker 1: It happened one of my favorite scenes in that siding
Speaker 1: thing when he got out of the wreck and he
Speaker 1: was like he was reverse rate. My theater was crazy people.
Speaker 1: That was interesting. Yeah, it was sense.
Speaker 3: Just the terminology okay, and the way he was spinning
Speaker 3: that trying to spend that verse rate.
Speaker 1: But but he's reverse but you get But I.
Speaker 3: Thought it was interesting because when you think about what
Speaker 3: he means by that, like reverse rate, M but was
Speaker 3: that what does that imply that regular rape is regular?
Speaker 1: But but like like uh, forward rape, but think about it.
Speaker 1: Why would he think this is reverse rape? What wouldn't
Speaker 1: be just regular rape?
Speaker 3: So they're making a point of like rape is typically
Speaker 3: male to female.
Speaker 1: But he says, well, this.
Speaker 3: Is just like when people say reverse race is stupid.
Speaker 3: But like him saying reverse rape. I thought that was
Speaker 3: really interesting.
Speaker 1: And I thought they thought it was interesting too. They
Speaker 1: couldn't believe, They didn't believe, they couldn't believe. Just like
Speaker 1: he was just like, we'll explain what I'm taking this.
Speaker 1: I think it was like what God explain? How did
Speaker 1: that work? And I think he made it A boy
Speaker 1: his his his semen. He was like, she wants she
Speaker 1: knew how powerful man. He wanted to get that out.
Speaker 1: That was insane. She was a that's what the white
Speaker 1: guy said that killed me was Oh my god, man.
Speaker 3: The dialogue in this ship was too goddamnit to good,
Speaker 3: too good it was there.
Speaker 4: Was a point with so much stuff, so white and innocent.
Speaker 4: I don't think that anything they were.
Speaker 1: Doing was wrong.
Speaker 4: They called us and they called us bro. Yeah, he's
Speaker 4: in poor mm hmmm. And then it was like and
Speaker 4: then the older white guy he just there just listening
Speaker 4: and them kind of discussed, and then it was like, well, what.
Speaker 1: Do you what do you want me to do? He
Speaker 1: was like, we need to clean eat off the floor,
Speaker 1: dick dirty. I thought that the him, the guy they
Speaker 1: were talking to, that wanted them to go, he wanted
Speaker 1: to go handle with Sean Pinn. I thought that was
Speaker 1: one of the great scenes because I wouldn't expecting that.
Speaker 1: I was like, that car came out of note it
Speaker 1: was gonna be Leo. They called him whatever the car
Speaker 1: that I didn't know. I didn't notice because the car
Speaker 1: was the same color I think, like it was blue
Speaker 1: and a purple car, so it wouldn't I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but that was one of the more
Speaker 1: surprising scenes for me too. I knew that he was
Speaker 1: on his.
Speaker 3: Way to kill him, So when when the car pulled up,
Speaker 3: I wasn't shocked that that happened.
Speaker 1: I was If anything, I'm more shocked that he didn't
Speaker 1: go verify to kill he did.
Speaker 3: He walked down. He poked him a couple of times
Speaker 3: or whatever, just to make sure.
Speaker 1: Whatever. But that was Leo. He just got the car.
Speaker 1: He looked and he thought he was dead. That he
Speaker 1: didn't do a good job. He's not a very good cleaner.
Speaker 1: Then he looked that he should have made sure he
Speaker 1: looked dead when Leo pulled up on him. He did sure.
Speaker 1: When he came walking over the hill, bro, I was
Speaker 1: like that ship was insand like, come on, terminator, Yeah
Speaker 1: that my THEA went crazy to one of those grooms
Speaker 1: that come out next. At what point We've talked about
Speaker 1: a lot of scenes in the movie. At what point
Speaker 1: did y'all were y'all looking at this and you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: this is good, this is bad, this is just okay.
Speaker 1: Was there a specific scene or it's like scenario and
Speaker 1: it stood out to you.
Speaker 3: For me, it was like twenty minutes in, I'm really
Speaker 3: enjoying what they're doing, even though that's actually I'm lying
Speaker 3: to you. At first, I was annoyed because I was like,
Speaker 3: they're fucking they're making fun of far left activists, and
Speaker 3: I was like, all right, I'm getting annoyed because they
Speaker 3: were making them.
Speaker 1: Seem really stupid and goofy.
Speaker 3: But then I had to just calm down and take
Speaker 3: myself out of things and stop being so fucking serious.
Speaker 3: Then I was like, okay, nah, I'm actually kind of
Speaker 3: enjoying them making far left activists seem a little silly
Speaker 3: and goofy, because at first I was like, Okay, is
Speaker 3: this some weird right wing movie because the lefties are
Speaker 3: being real violent and like, you know, it was almost comical. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I was like, is this a comical right wing movie
Speaker 3: where they're just kind of making fun of far left activists?
Speaker 1: I don't think that's what it was at all.
Speaker 3: Once I killed out and just fell into the movie,
Speaker 3: I was like, no, this is really good.
Speaker 1: So yeah.
Speaker 3: That took about thirty five forty minutes and I was like,
Speaker 3: all right, I'm in it was once the unfortunate part
Speaker 3: I fell asleep on, but once I woke up, I
Speaker 3: was in it.
Speaker 1: You had to sleep on it a little. I had
Speaker 1: to sleep on it in real time. Was it was
Speaker 1: it a point in the movie where you rot? Did
Speaker 1: you see what he initially said?
Speaker 2: The twenty minutes in I was just like, well, I
Speaker 2: think this is because I can kind of see where
Speaker 2: it was going I was like, oh man, this this
Speaker 2: has a really good stride right now. And yeah, just
Speaker 2: kind of seeing like like the music. I liked the
Speaker 2: music too. The music kind of moved the movie along
Speaker 2: as well, like the soundtrack to it. Just seeing like
Speaker 2: how they were, you know, like the whole revolution we
Speaker 2: televis thing and just seeing how they were like moving
Speaker 2: through that the pacing, I was like, oh, the pacing
Speaker 2: is really really good right now.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 2: I was just thinking of Junkle Pussy when you're talking
Speaker 2: about oh yeah when she was on Yeah that was
Speaker 2: and then you hear the shot off camera.
Speaker 1: And looking like got scared. Oh man, it was I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: this ship is good. Man. In that car scene, why
Speaker 1: when they were swerving through cars, that was really good.
Speaker 1: Like that was good. You know when they like it
Speaker 1: actually crashed, like look they about to crash, and they
Speaker 1: actually crashed because you know, you don't know, they don't
Speaker 1: see that out of it. They'll get out of it
Speaker 1: like the whippy damage like fun and then they're still
Speaker 1: riding around crazy. But no, that ship crashed and they
Speaker 1: had like get out. All that was cool.
Speaker 3: Even after the one dude snitched, we didn't talk about
Speaker 3: that scene. Even after the one dude snitched and the
Speaker 3: cops are coming after the crew and the one woman
Speaker 3: ran through the and the second show the door. She
Speaker 3: got what I didn't not at all. Then when they
Speaker 3: got Jungle Pussy, I was like, damn, they got my girl,
Speaker 3: Jungle Pussy, not Jungle Pussy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, anybody, anybody, but can Was there a moment in
Speaker 1: the movie for you, I'm just making sure it took.
Speaker 4: It took a little longer for me. When Willa got captured.
Speaker 4: That was starting to be the beginning. I think it's
Speaker 4: a it's an interesting movie in terms of like what
Speaker 4: it was it was saying about, you know, revolution, So
Speaker 4: I think it's it's there is very surface level level,
Speaker 4: but there's still some subtleties to it. And and I
Speaker 4: thought that that was that was sort of interesting what
Speaker 4: they were kind of saying. I guess he just pta
Speaker 4: really didn't want people to miss the point of what
Speaker 4: he was trying to say. But it was really towards
Speaker 4: the end, like when she was really by herself and
Speaker 4: there was nobody coming to save her.
Speaker 1: And at the end of the movie, I'm like.
Speaker 4: And I don't even know if this was a point,
Speaker 4: but this was the point I got was like, damn man,
Speaker 4: black women, they only.
Speaker 1: Only saved themselves.
Speaker 4: It was like all this stuff that she was going through,
Speaker 4: the father didn't help her, Like nobody was there to
Speaker 4: help her. She had to do it herself outside of
Speaker 4: the one guy that went in and you know, had
Speaker 4: to change her heart.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, her father showed
Speaker 1: up late. Facts she had to figure that and she
Speaker 1: didn't waste bro She was still emotional when he pulled up.
Speaker 1: She was she had been through a lot of trauma. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because they got and she she and she kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of it's typical teenager would do, right,
Speaker 1: and I noticed kind of just all right, you having
Speaker 1: us go through all this ship this bullshit, nobody's coming
Speaker 1: for you. And he was like, yeah, you'll be surprised.
Speaker 1: And then she got real. And I think part of
Speaker 1: where it worked for me, where it starts of the
Speaker 1: really turn, was when Regina Hall showed up in the bathroom.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was a real good.
Speaker 4: And it showed that all of the things that she
Speaker 4: had been told, she didn't question it. She she went
Speaker 4: along with it. And she was like, all right, bet,
Speaker 4: it's just a lot about the phone.
Speaker 1: But I like how they didn't try to make that
Speaker 1: other thing too, where she was trying to be rebellious
Speaker 1: and not go with her. She knew that she knew
Speaker 1: the password. I'm trusting my dad. Ship just got real. Yeah.
Speaker 4: But yeah, when man, when when he got on the car,
Speaker 4: he was like what green apples whatever it was, and
Speaker 4: he was like what, I don't know, pow like no hesitation,
Speaker 4: Green Acres, Petticoat Junction, it was.
Speaker 1: I used to watch all those shows this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, wow, And they didn't even trust her dad.
Speaker 4: So she was like who are you.
Speaker 1: At this point because remember she didn't know that wasn't
Speaker 1: her dad, So like she looking at him now like
Speaker 1: she kept a secret from him too. I don't think
Speaker 1: he don't know, right, he never said that interest Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's probably not going to tell them. There's no reason to, right,
Speaker 1: That's true. That heard them. For me, it was when
Speaker 1: Tianna Taylor was going through Postmark. Oh that was, but
Speaker 1: he thought it was when she was going through post
Speaker 1: post part of Like, I got the gist of the
Speaker 1: movie in the beginning with revolutionary stuff, but what really
Speaker 1: interests me was her leaving and where they were gonna
Speaker 1: go like, Okay, yeah, what's gonna happen now. She was like,
Speaker 1: she's taking my spot. That was really interesting. She said that, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe not. She said, she taking my spider. That's his girl.
Speaker 1: Now I'm not his girl and I'm not his number
Speaker 1: one girl anymore.
Speaker 4: I thought she was just really thinking about the fact
Speaker 4: that it may not have been his.
Speaker 1: No, she was.
Speaker 3: She was struggling with the fact that she was no
Speaker 3: longer the main focus of Leo's life.
Speaker 1: Because he was looking at him calling her. Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: the back monologue was great, Like she just called him
Speaker 1: like look how you hold your look how you kisses
Speaker 1: her and things like that. All his attention goes there.
Speaker 1: She said.
Speaker 2: People think think I'm crazy to be jealous of my baby, right,
Speaker 2: that was thro off to But.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why you said sleep out.
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I could relate. But Mama was
Speaker 2: funny too. She was like, she was like, that's I
Speaker 2: think that's hilarious.
Speaker 1: Like when she was talking to him about my daughter,
Speaker 1: She's talk from a long line of revolutionaries, like how
Speaker 1: you're gonna handle that? He's like, you can't fix what
Speaker 1: She called him a stump and stump, Yeah, running you
Speaker 1: are stump. Yeah that was and she ran and she
Speaker 1: was right, and that was Yeah, that was because I
Speaker 1: was waiting to see if that was yeh, she was wrong.
Speaker 1: She got out of there, So yeah, that's why it
Speaker 1: changed for me. My next question, plot holes, anything that
Speaker 1: they messed up that you guys saw that was noticeable.
Speaker 1: Boys Like I just didn't like about the film because
Speaker 1: we've been praising him a lot.
Speaker 3: I don't know that I loved the ultimate ending of
Speaker 3: Tean Taylor's character.
Speaker 1: She just came off like.
Speaker 3: A selfish piece of shit because at first she it
Speaker 3: seemed like, Okay, she was really into Leo. Then she
Speaker 3: had you know, she fucked the colonel. But I thought
Speaker 3: that was just for the revolution to keep things able
Speaker 3: to you know, continue moving. Her snitching. I was like, okay,
Speaker 3: that's fine, But then her dipping out, I was like, Wow,
Speaker 3: that's a lot.
Speaker 1: That's a lot.
Speaker 3: That's a big one eighty for her character. I didn't
Speaker 3: dislike it necessarily, but it kind of just bugged me.
Speaker 1: I think a little bit.
Speaker 4: I too struggle with that, trying to understand like how
Speaker 4: she fit within the overall film outside of just you know,
Speaker 4: having the baby and that being the source of like
Speaker 4: mixed bloods Now, that's bad. What part in like revolution?
Speaker 4: Was she right?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 4: And I guess I was even to the part where
Speaker 4: she slept with the colonel. I was even trying to
Speaker 4: you know, process that part, like why would she do this?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 4: So I agree with what Mike said, but I was
Speaker 4: still like, Okay, maybe I'm missing something. And then for
Speaker 4: her to be a snitch and the nun saying that, oh,
Speaker 4: the daughter of Rat is a baby rat or something
Speaker 4: like that, and that's what she started to find the truth.
Speaker 1: I did think it was interesting using like.
Speaker 4: Religion as a way to kind of hide and mask
Speaker 4: like good and right. You know, both were kind of
Speaker 4: using the church for their own you know, personal whatever
Speaker 4: they were doing. But yeah, it was just like and
Speaker 4: then she just disappeared. She never came back, and she
Speaker 4: just wrote a letter. So it's just like I don't understand, like,
Speaker 4: is there a larger point to what she's doing? You know,
Speaker 4: because one of the things I I picked up was like,
Speaker 4: how you know, you were talking earlier Mike about how
Speaker 4: they were almost making fun of the leftists or whatever,
Speaker 4: and how sort of disorganized at times that they appear
Speaker 4: and the people that were conspiring and doing all this
Speaker 4: were so much buttoning up and organized to the point
Speaker 4: that they have everything like down to a t. And
Speaker 4: you know, you kind of kind of contrast those two
Speaker 4: and you kind of see how they can almost stay
Speaker 4: in power and they were able to squash down this
Speaker 4: thing and now it's gone. This guy's a drug addict
Speaker 4: and you know, a drunk, you.
Speaker 1: Know, and she's a snitch and ran the other ones
Speaker 1: hiding and still trying to fight. They Robin Banks can't
Speaker 1: get that. Like.
Speaker 4: It was just kind of an interesting thing to kind
Speaker 4: of point out, you know, but yeah, it was. It
Speaker 4: was Tianna's character. I just didn't really fully understand what
Speaker 4: if there was one the.
Speaker 1: Point of her. So I got a question when she
Speaker 1: was at the campfire talking when she was pregnant. She
Speaker 1: was like, pussy is the weapon, that's the best weapon
Speaker 1: to the other woman. Yeah, what's that in reference to
Speaker 1: her fucking the colonel?
Speaker 3: Because yes, okay, in my opinion, yes, that's what I
Speaker 3: was asking because she saw that that was the main
Speaker 3: way that she.
Speaker 1: Kept it going. Yes, got it. Okay, I didn't even
Speaker 1: put that together. Just now they were talking about it
Speaker 1: is wrong that's what made him about it. Pussy power.
Speaker 1: I mean, wars thought over absolutely war. You don't want
Speaker 1: to throw the fucking stupid like a real war, right thing?
Speaker 1: I do? Like, I didn't.
Speaker 4: I didn't hate that damn trailer set me up. I
Speaker 4: talked about this movie before.
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I don't know what movie is in,
Speaker 1: but all I saw was a pregnant woman with it
Speaker 1: was a flipping the damn movie b It was on
Speaker 1: the poster. That's good. It was a good scene. That
Speaker 1: was good metography. I was like, damn, anyway, what's your moment? Rod?
Speaker 2: It didn't really work for you. I mean, I won't
Speaker 2: say didn't work. I'm having to pull like, yeah, well
Speaker 2: thin strings. But if I had to pick something, maybe.
Speaker 1: I had it in my head. But that thre what
Speaker 1: you said. It threw me off. It was two moments, huh,
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, yeah I had I just had it.
Speaker 1: Oh the witness protection. I didn't see how she got
Speaker 1: out of that, so yeah that was mine? Yeah go ahead, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's really it.
Speaker 2: Just that whole It just seemed like too easy for
Speaker 2: her to get out of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred. That didn't really make a lot of sense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because it don't seem like she would have been able
Speaker 1: to cross the border.
Speaker 3: Well, it didn't seem like she should have been able
Speaker 3: to get out that house. He witness protection. She didn't
Speaker 3: kill anybody, She just went out the back door. Yeah
Speaker 3: what and wrote a letter. Put a mask on this,
Speaker 3: puts it on pop for you. That's all we gotta do.
Speaker 3: Unless it wasn't real witness protection. Well, they don't monitor you.
Speaker 1: When I think what he's said is the colonel set
Speaker 1: that up right himself.
Speaker 4: It wasn't like governmental, right, and it probably couldn't have been. No, no, no,
Speaker 4: they said she was in witness protection.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they said, yeah, he had to go get it,
Speaker 2: she had to go to the job, like all of
Speaker 2: these things.
Speaker 1: Like they just said, though, they don't monitor you.
Speaker 4: Once when they were in the room, they were say, yeah,
Speaker 4: she was in witness protection and then she left and
Speaker 4: she disappeared.
Speaker 1: You you could go back to some people have been
Speaker 1: in to go back to their old life. So how
Speaker 1: was the protection because she is supposed it's supposed to
Speaker 1: be in a place that secluded enough to where people
Speaker 1: wouldn't know who you are or what you did.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think that's the type of she was
Speaker 2: in because they was like, you gotta get a job,
Speaker 2: you got to go.
Speaker 1: They pay you too for being in it, so you
Speaker 1: just do all. Yeah, you get paid to be with
Speaker 1: this protection.
Speaker 2: They need you to testify, you need you have to cooperate, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're in this whole thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they don't keep you there. Like if you,
Speaker 1: under your own fruition go back to your life or
Speaker 1: put yourself in danger, that's on you.
Speaker 3: But but I thought part of her being and witness
Speaker 3: protection was wasn't she going to continue feeding them information
Speaker 3: or something or does she already give them to you?
Speaker 1: So then why would they even agree that. I don't
Speaker 1: know that because and why does she even snitch?
Speaker 3: That's what I was to help her daughter, I thought, Really,
Speaker 3: that's why I thought she said.
Speaker 1: Didn't she say that, oh he was threatening.
Speaker 5: Herber something about the daughter, Yeah, because he was kind
Speaker 5: of talking around about way to her.
Speaker 1: I don't even think it's the daughter. I think it.
Speaker 2: I think it was more selfish reason she didn't want
Speaker 2: to be locked up. I think I think she just
Speaker 2: you know, when he said, oh, yeah, you're gonna be
Speaker 2: in it for life, like yeah, she didn't want that. She'lutionary.
Speaker 1: She wanted to be out and about like fighting. Well,
Speaker 1: she ain't much revolutionary. She snitched on the entire crew.
Speaker 4: Threat I think he did threaten Yeah, the daughter.
Speaker 1: I really do need to watch it again, just not
Speaker 1: too damn because it was like it was like it's
Speaker 1: a shame you don't know anybody you can sway.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah in the hospital scene, yeah talking yeah,
Speaker 4: because we're like you're going to be in a long time.
Speaker 4: Some I can't remember exactly what was said, but okay,
Speaker 4: yeah that won't make sense then but.
Speaker 1: If you're in jail and like you can't get to
Speaker 1: your daughter anyway. But that's what I'm saying. I thought
Speaker 1: he was going to go after the daughter, and I
Speaker 1: thought that if.
Speaker 3: She snitched, he wasn't going to But I'm thinking maybe
Speaker 3: or maybe I'm misremembering.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it was that, and then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everything's around, all my all my grapes was just
Speaker 2: around like talking to the police.
Speaker 1: Well like so I didn't understand, like why.
Speaker 2: The one friend had to tell Joe knows, like they
Speaker 2: couldn't put you in jail because if I'm telling you,
Speaker 2: like I.
Speaker 1: Don't know, I don't know her number. Like, I didn't
Speaker 1: understand why he had kids. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, what's
Speaker 1: her name? Willi's friend. I didn't understand why he why
Speaker 1: he had to give give up the information.
Speaker 3: I mean, because they were he was starting a kid,
Speaker 3: the kid didn't know better.
Speaker 1: And the kid that snitch probably feared for their yes
Speaker 1: safety if they're going to Chai because they trains. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's why I thought that he was the one,
Speaker 1: because they would have gone to a male prison, right,
Speaker 1: And that's what I think what he thought about they
Speaker 1: sorry interesting, So that's what he said. For me, it
Speaker 1: was a plot hole. I'm like, why did he tell
Speaker 1: the damn dad, it's not that hard? Why did they
Speaker 1: Why did they say that?
Speaker 3: I think it was that That's what I got to
Speaker 3: that is they had the most to lose by going
Speaker 3: to prison.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it was specific, Like why did you go
Speaker 1: with them? Yes? Good job?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they would have been brutalized and it's interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Was there a scene in the movie that you
Speaker 1: guys couldn't wait to talk about?
Speaker 4: Carson Cars For me too, that was that it was intense,
Speaker 4: it was crazy, it was really good.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that whole scene.
Speaker 4: Uh, the way she shot old boy and no questions
Speaker 4: asked once the cole was get up with. The whole
Speaker 4: car scene was really really, really good, you know, because
Speaker 4: every time she go up here and go down here,
Speaker 4: I kept I kept thinking it was gonna be a
Speaker 4: car something, you know.
Speaker 1: I was like, for me, it was I love the
Speaker 1: payoff of when they first had to run and he
Speaker 1: was giving them the track of thing. He was like,
Speaker 1: if you see somebody with these all, just hand them out.
Speaker 1: But he was telling him all this information and you
Speaker 1: could tell Leo wasn't really taking it. He was like,
Speaker 1: what's happening, What's going on? And then the payoffs sixteen
Speaker 1: years later when he needed to know all of that stuff,
Speaker 1: the dudes telling him, look, bro, this is important. Remember
Speaker 1: this book, read this letter, and throw this shit away,
Speaker 1: but make sure you know all of this stuff. And
Speaker 1: for him to just like forget it sixteen years later,
Speaker 1: I thought that was one of the most interesting. But
Speaker 1: forget absolutely. I would have been I was gonna ask you,
Speaker 1: I would forget it sixteen minutes. I probably wouldn't read
Speaker 1: the book or whatever it was that he told him
Speaker 1: to read. But would y'all have remember any of that Stufhi,
Speaker 1: y'all took it more seriously. I would have definitely taken
Speaker 1: it more serious if I.
Speaker 3: If I am out here and I'm part of the revolution,
Speaker 3: I'm definitely gonna take this more seriously. But to be fair,
Speaker 3: le Leo was a single father. His his girl was
Speaker 3: gone and he was raising the kid by himself. He
Speaker 3: became a drug addict, depressed basically and depressed. So I mean,
Speaker 3: I see why he forgot But bro, write that shit
Speaker 3: down somewhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, write it down. I know I'm over here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would have something, you know. He told me not
Speaker 1: to write damn that.
Speaker 2: Maybe I thought about another scene when he went to
Speaker 2: the classroom, He's like, got a lot of slave.
Speaker 1: Orders on his man. That was great his you got
Speaker 1: to make got all the heavy he got all the
Speaker 1: heavy heads in the n Yeah, you can't smoke that
Speaker 1: in here because he started crying. That's the other thing.
Speaker 1: When I woke up, I was like, why is he
Speaker 1: dressed like that? Using that rope running around because with
Speaker 1: the blue blockers on, why is he dressed like? Why
Speaker 1: is the house coach? He said jump four four that
Speaker 1: was the car. He didn't jump out the car and
Speaker 1: then they showed him doing a little lying Dan pulled
Speaker 1: him off.
Speaker 6: Yeah my god, oh my god. It was just like
Speaker 6: that ship was hold wlarious body doing that.
Speaker 3: But yeah, we didn't talk about Also when when when
Speaker 3: he first went to I'm doing Rod dude, when he
Speaker 3: first when he first went to the hospital, when Leo
Speaker 3: first went to the hospital and that whole network get
Speaker 3: him out, that was that was That was dope. From
Speaker 3: the person that interviewed him to the nurse was like
Speaker 3: that was and it was so she's like, Bob, she
Speaker 3: said it one time he looked up.
Speaker 1: He's like what the Yep, She's like, I can't I
Speaker 1: can't help him. I can't help him. So good. That
Speaker 1: was really good. Oh she was real. Yeah, because he
Speaker 1: didn't looking at her, she said Bob, and then she did.
Speaker 1: Then he looked up and for him to have that
Speaker 1: network set up. I thought it was just fascinating.
Speaker 4: She was walking, Yes, she was walking through kind of
Speaker 4: the questions to ask to get him away from them,
Speaker 4: you know, with the diabetes and stuff like that. But
Speaker 4: I totally missed the name call because he wasn't picking
Speaker 4: it up.
Speaker 1: And so she's like, Bob. That's when she that's when
Speaker 1: he perked up. She said. One time he looked at
Speaker 1: me like, what the facts It was so sub It
Speaker 1: was so good. God, damn, it was so good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was great. We've talked about did little up the expectations.
Speaker 1: I think everybody said it did. So we're gonna get
Speaker 1: to the ending and like them sticking to landing. I
Speaker 1: throw it to you guys after this, it was predictable.
Speaker 1: What they did to Sean Pinn's character was like, he's
Speaker 1: not gonna They're gonna kill him. I knew it, but
Speaker 1: it was still good though. It was still good that
Speaker 1: they like gassed the room, how he locked him in there,
Speaker 1: that all of that was great to me. I think
Speaker 1: they stuck the landing. I thought he's gonna get sniped.
Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be a sniper. But then
Speaker 1: the gas made sense too, So I just thought all
Speaker 1: of that was incredible. You guys think they stuck the
Speaker 1: landing slash.
Speaker 4: Ding Yeah, yeah, I you know, there was no way
Speaker 4: they were letting him back in, but he you know,
Speaker 4: had in their eyes, you know, or something like that,
Speaker 4: and uh, and it crossed the line and they're just like, nah,
Speaker 4: that's that's we can't stand for this. Even if we
Speaker 4: believe you at your story, the fact is you're white
Speaker 4: deck winning.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: This dude is an asset to them, like he obviously
Speaker 2: can get shipped done. And the fact that you're gonna
Speaker 2: not get him because this one thing that he did
Speaker 2: with a black woman. He's like, Nope, I don't give
Speaker 2: a fuck if you black ops or whatever.
Speaker 1: He will be black ops. But but it sounds it
Speaker 1: sounds about right. It sounds like how a white woman's
Speaker 1: group behave get know what I'm saying, That's what.
Speaker 2: That's what's crazy, Like, it don't matter that you're this good,
Speaker 2: great at what you do, know your dick got dirty.
Speaker 1: Damn. I just put two and two together. I was
Speaker 1: wondering how he was able to just hit that. I
Speaker 1: know he had to go to that time because it's private.
Speaker 1: I told him that's what. But they mentioned it being
Speaker 1: a sanctuary city. They knew about the whole system. Because
Speaker 1: I was wondering and it never occouraged me, like how
Speaker 1: was he able to just and.
Speaker 2: They were saying to keep the military to that time, right,
Speaker 2: they said, the people are going to cooperate, yah, which
Speaker 2: they did in the hospital. You know all those people
Speaker 2: like they are trying to protect the people up there,
Speaker 2: and I thought that, oh that was a part too,
Speaker 2: doing the riot. And you remember how that ship happened
Speaker 2: in real time when they had people mad avocavocate tours,
Speaker 2: the one.
Speaker 1: That provokes provokes like violence.
Speaker 2: Basically it's not even like the actual rioters or whatever,
Speaker 2: the protesters or whatever.
Speaker 1: It's not the protesters, but they have a rioter come
Speaker 1: actual somebody come too. I thought about him when I
Speaker 1: saw that. I was like, yeah, like the one that
Speaker 1: was disarming people that time, remember the one he was.
Speaker 1: He was he was in protester clothing, but he was
Speaker 1: disarmed people that had weapons and ship y'all remember that.
Speaker 1: I forgot which which protesters was, but it was it
Speaker 1: was like you know life, real life. Yeah, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it sounded like.
Speaker 2: A fucking movie. But he was disarmed people that had
Speaker 2: weapons and ship. Y'all don't remember this. We talked about
Speaker 2: it here on It's the my salon. Yeah, it was
Speaker 2: because you were saying that it was probably a cop.
Speaker 2: It was probably a cop that was doing it that
Speaker 2: was dressed up like a like a you know rider.
Speaker 2: I keep on saying rider dressed up like a protester,
Speaker 2: and he was disarmed people that might have had weapons
Speaker 2: or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well and he was.
Speaker 4: And the way this movie sort of kind of overlays
Speaker 4: on top of present day, it's definitely a view into
Speaker 4: the past. Like, you know, he used immigration to do
Speaker 4: a lot of stuff. You know, they freed people from camps.
Speaker 4: That's how they wanted the uh you know, uh, lock
Speaker 4: y'all got on the radar. They got on lock y'all's
Speaker 4: radar and used immigration to go look for his daughter.
Speaker 1: But the impurities, so to.
Speaker 4: Speak, of black people, they do still feel that way
Speaker 4: in present day. We're not that far removed from And
Speaker 4: that was the scary thing about you know this movie.
Speaker 4: You know, they can easily snatch up somebody and hold them,
Speaker 4: like with the Patriot and all that stuff. Bro, you
Speaker 4: can be disappeared easy to the country, you know. And
Speaker 4: and we still don't know what happened to Regina Hall.
Speaker 1: We still don't know what happened to the revolution. I
Speaker 1: think we can assume they killed her, you know, they
Speaker 1: think that's assumption. I don't think. I don't think she's killed.
Speaker 1: I think she cooperated. So they did cooperate something they
Speaker 1: never gave a clear answer.
Speaker 3: Oh no, they didn't give a clear answer, but they
Speaker 3: implied very heavily that she that she snitched Regina. I
Speaker 3: didn't take that from it, because right after that happened
Speaker 3: is wait, what.
Speaker 1: Happened right after?
Speaker 2: So after they got her, because they asked what was
Speaker 2: the question he was trying to get out of her.
Speaker 2: I'm trying because he was just like, okay, he's with
Speaker 2: she's with the colonel right now.
Speaker 1: If you want to protect her, give me. No, they
Speaker 1: already found That's how they found regime. That's right. That's
Speaker 1: what I try to tell them what Leo was because
Speaker 1: he didn't know. She was saying she didn't know, so
Speaker 1: she couldn't there was something. There wasn't anything for her
Speaker 1: to tell because it was unless it was the other
Speaker 1: people that were still in a revolution. But it might
Speaker 1: have been, but I don't think that's that's so specific though.
Speaker 3: I feel like right after that that scene, something happened.
Speaker 1: I thought that made it seem like, oh, she told
Speaker 1: I thought they were gonna take U somewhere and killed
Speaker 1: because she didn't say anything because she didn't have nothing
Speaker 1: to say other than telling them whoever, That's why it
Speaker 1: was interrogating her. They were interrogating her. But but remember Big,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say to even further the ending. The
Speaker 1: revolution was still going because we've seen Will take the
Speaker 1: call and go out and him telling her to be safe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the revolution was still going.
Speaker 3: But we don't know if Regina Hall's character was involved, right,
Speaker 3: because we never heard anything else after about her after that.
Speaker 3: I need to see it again. I feel like I'm
Speaker 3: with Rod. I feel like there was something that happened
Speaker 3: that made it seem like she snitched.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't take this get.
Speaker 3: Especially her face when he kept like drilling her and
Speaker 3: she was like looking scared. She wasn't like I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna tell. There was like a moment where she was
Speaker 3: she was like, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: She started crying because I thought she started kid, you
Speaker 1: might be right, Spike, maybe I mistook the scene.
Speaker 2: No, man, you're not mistaking it, because she was just like,
Speaker 2: I don't know. He was asking her a specific question
Speaker 2: and she was just like, you know, that's why he's saying,
Speaker 2: you know, how many people sit across from you?
Speaker 1: I don't know whatever, Why would he say that. I
Speaker 1: just don't know what she gave up information.
Speaker 4: I forgot what information, Yeah, I can't remember, but but yeah,
Speaker 4: but either way, I think his it's crazy because you
Speaker 4: talking about Thomas Jefferson, you know, and all these presidents
Speaker 4: that you know, would sleep with black women, to have
Speaker 4: babies with him, but still don't like them. You know,
Speaker 4: that was in essence him and a lot of other
Speaker 4: white people and still wanted to be part of the cause,
Speaker 4: you know. And he what I forgot, what they call him,
Speaker 4: was so fit, sated on being accepted, you know, and
Speaker 4: still wanted to you know, do his own thing, that
Speaker 4: he was unwilling to even see what was happening. You know,
Speaker 4: this trained veteran, this guy walked in clean, just bought
Speaker 4: everything hook hook whatever the saying is. It was like,
Speaker 4: oh yeah, my bad, I forgot my keys, got up there,
Speaker 4: thought he made it, beat up and everything, and that
Speaker 4: was it.
Speaker 1: And they accinerated him. Not a trace of him to
Speaker 1: be find. Nobody ever seen him again.
Speaker 4: And they move on and they continue to shape the
Speaker 4: country and in their image.
Speaker 1: Another great thing I thought about the ending was him,
Speaker 1: not Leo's character, not standing in little will way to
Speaker 1: want to be a revolutionary, because that's how he lost
Speaker 1: the mama. He wanted her to stop, and he just
Speaker 1: wanted to her her like now that you got kids.
Speaker 1: I loved that he just let her go do her thing,
Speaker 1: knowing how dangers it was, but still allowing her to
Speaker 1: do it because he didn't want to lose it and
Speaker 1: loved their relationship. I thought that was really good. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I thought her getting the letter and reading it was good.
Speaker 1: I thought that was weird.
Speaker 3: Weird, Yeah, because they were at the table and he
Speaker 3: was like, Oh, if you want to go read it
Speaker 3: by yourself, go ahead, And then she walked like ten
Speaker 3: feet away into that room with the door wide open.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, you're not really by yourself. I can
Speaker 1: read it alone. No, like I can still see you.
Speaker 1: You're not alone because the mom's still alive, right, Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: the colonel was lying about her being dead.
Speaker 3: She's alive and probably in Cuba or New Mexico or somewhere.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 3: I guess I took it as she wasn't going to
Speaker 3: stay in one place, got because they would be looking
Speaker 3: for her.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they mustn't have enough money for her. The
Speaker 1: rest of the movie, scheduling conflict or something. She shoot
Speaker 1: that Ty the parod move. Probably No, they probably let
Speaker 1: her go because that made sense for the story.
Speaker 3: She wasn't the highest paid no actor and it wasn't
Speaker 3: like she gave the strongest performance out of everybody.
Speaker 1: There looking mad.
Speaker 3: That's what she always does. I've never really understood. I mean,
Speaker 3: I think she's fine, but everyone's like.
Speaker 1: No, do you want to tell the truth? When I
Speaker 1: think it's because she's more time. That's all the dancing,
Speaker 1: the saying, get the actors. She does it all, and
Speaker 1: that's fine, But I'm not about to hear her pretend
Speaker 1: that she's a great actor. No, No, she's fine. She's yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly great. Any more thoughts about the ending.
Speaker 2: I thought they stuck the larding. Personally, I like it.
Speaker 2: I like the emotion behind it. When she just came
Speaker 2: back and hugged him, I liked that. You know, he
Speaker 2: still was her father. Yep, you know I like that man.
Speaker 1: And they got phones. Yeah, how to take the picture that? Yep?
Speaker 1: So the great job by the director this guy did
Speaker 1: that be blood as well? Yeah?
Speaker 3: And Magnolia punch drunk in her advice, which I did
Speaker 3: like to.
Speaker 1: Yeah he's good man. Yeah, she does a great job,
Speaker 1: all right. When I saw his name.
Speaker 3: I thought it was Wes Anderson, and I was like, fuck,
Speaker 3: I don't want to see it for no fucking three
Speaker 3: hour Wes Anderson.
Speaker 1: Alright, if all hearts and minds are clear, the doors
Speaker 1: of the church are open. Yeah. I didn't. I didn't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I just didn't know. I didn't know it
Speaker 1: was a popular that's all. No. I think I think
Speaker 1: we hit on everything. Unless y'all got anything else, you know,
Speaker 1: the movie was as popular. I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't know he's a very popular director. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: And I didn't know who directed it. I didn't know
Speaker 2: anything about this going in right.
Speaker 1: Well, that has been our review of this movie for
Speaker 1: the France Per Second podcast, and we're out Peace.