WEBVTT - Best of JMV 8/14/26

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<v Speaker 1>We need to wish a happy birthday to Vincent, can

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<v Speaker 1>we not? Yes, happy belated birthday. Belated but still I'm

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<v Speaker 3>So he's our third we have four kids. So I

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<v Speaker 3>know what was I thinking?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I wasn't really thinking. I know, I think I thought.

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<v Speaker 2>The same thing. I've been thinking the same deal exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Love you guys and Alex returns with me coming up

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<v Speaker 2>in a minute meantime with the Andy Moore Automotive Group

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<v Speaker 2>Potline from ESPN, a little low down on last night,

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<v Speaker 2>some fantasy hookup as well, and from ESPN Field, the

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<v Speaker 2>Yates joins us.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Hey, Piel, thank you for the time. How are you.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm doing great? Thanks much for having me on. I

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<v Speaker 4>hope you're having a great summer.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the summer has been fantastic, and now it'sammed up

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit because we do have football back. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>curious did you have a chance to eyeball any of

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<v Speaker 2>the Colts and Patriots last night? Just out of curiosity?

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, we called that the Will Mallory Show, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I did stuff last night from Will obviously, And yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>a game that won't be remembered at like the Pro

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<v Speaker 4>Football Hall of Fame. If I had to guess, not

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<v Speaker 4>too many ties they go down as memorable. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I did have a chance to catch some of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Saw some of Anthony richardson Will Mallory has mentioned, and

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<v Speaker 4>then a lot of missfield.

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<v Speaker 5>Goals as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, especially you kind of wonder if maybe one of

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<v Speaker 2>these these kickers from the Colts that gets cut ends

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<v Speaker 2>up in Foxboro with Mike Frado England. Yeah, any kind

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<v Speaker 2>of murder with a group of or straighter or whatever. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>what were your thoughts? And we've been around this for

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<v Speaker 2>so long now it almost wears us down a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>So we need a little bit of inside perspective, if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't mind outside perspective, if you don't mind right here,

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<v Speaker 2>what are your thoughts on Richardson in terms of what

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<v Speaker 2>the Colts should do with him this season?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I think the weird line that the Folts are having

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<v Speaker 4>to straddle right now is that, you know, quarterbacks do

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<v Speaker 4>have value if they're on your roster. Depths can certainly

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<v Speaker 4>be tested. And we give a quarterback coming off of

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<v Speaker 4>a torn achilles, even one that's rehabbing as remarkably well

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<v Speaker 4>as Daniel Jones, It's like you still have to be

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<v Speaker 4>mindful of the pieces behind him. And you have your

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<v Speaker 4>backup in Raley Leonard, but another player is only going

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<v Speaker 4>into a second NFL season that you just don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to give Anthony Richardson away.

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<v Speaker 5>But that you're getting. So if you're not getting any.

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<v Speaker 4>Offers that are of consequence, the question is is it

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<v Speaker 4>more valuable to have a third string quarterback most likely

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<v Speaker 4>maybe a back up, our third string quarterback who might

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<v Speaker 4>not play at all, or you know, a Day three selection,

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<v Speaker 4>which you know, Day three pitchs have certainly become lots

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<v Speaker 4>of things in the NFL, but they're far from a guarantee.

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<v Speaker 5>And I do think there's a bit of a pride

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<v Speaker 5>factor involved here.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I understand the Chris Ballard and the Colts

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<v Speaker 4>organization has moved on in many ways from Anthony Richardson.

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<v Speaker 5>They signed Daniel Jones last year, they reinvested in Daniel Jones.

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<v Speaker 5>I get that. At the same time, this was.

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<v Speaker 4>The front office that took him fourth overall a few

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<v Speaker 4>years ago, during a draft in which not everybody thought

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<v Speaker 4>that Anthony Richardson would go that high. Some thought it

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<v Speaker 4>could have been We'll Levice as an example, who would

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<v Speaker 4>go fourth overall, or other players that were not quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 4>could have gone fourth overall. So I think it's kind

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<v Speaker 4>of a tricky spot here for the Colts said, if

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<v Speaker 4>they get an offer that's too good to refuse, do

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<v Speaker 4>it until that point.

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<v Speaker 5>As awkward as it may be, you do need the

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<v Speaker 5>quarterback death.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a field.

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<v Speaker 2>Yates of ESPN ESPN dot Com fantasy football analyst, football

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<v Speaker 2>analysts in general, it's kind of not to join us

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<v Speaker 2>on the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline. This is the

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<v Speaker 2>ride with JMV downtown at Vivot Balcony and bar more

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<v Speaker 2>on that in just a second.

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<v Speaker 1>But Field, I'm curious.

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<v Speaker 2>I went over this in the pregame show last night

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<v Speaker 2>with analysts Rick Venturi, and he brought this up and

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<v Speaker 2>obviously there's no relatable here. That's not something that at

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<v Speaker 2>least we understand or know that Shane sdeykeen has been

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about doing. But would you try to concoct some

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<v Speaker 2>really kind of offensively odd ideas, I e.

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<v Speaker 1>Taysom Hill.

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<v Speaker 2>If Anthony Richardson is a part of this team moving

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<v Speaker 2>forward this year, would you try some different things offensively

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<v Speaker 2>with him? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I think with Anthony, like again, yeah, we're way past

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<v Speaker 4>the point of having drafted and fourth overall, get it sober.

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<v Speaker 1>And done with.

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<v Speaker 5>That's that's three years ago or four years ago. Now.

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<v Speaker 5>It's some costs of a draft investment.

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<v Speaker 4>But we've reached the point where you don't have to

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<v Speaker 4>focus exclusively on the stuff you can't do right, like

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<v Speaker 4>not the most accurate pastor obviously not a timing in

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<v Speaker 4>rhythm thrower, obviously, but let's see what we can do

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<v Speaker 4>tap into some of the unique abilities. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 4>is on the short list at least the greatest quarterback

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<v Speaker 4>athletes we've ever seen, right, I mean that's based off.

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<v Speaker 5>To Tom by Dusty. He has put himself into that.

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<v Speaker 4>Zip code and maybe you can find ways.

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<v Speaker 5>To tap into that. You know, he had.

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<v Speaker 4>The shortyardist run last night. I still believe that anthy

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<v Speaker 4>could be amongst the best goal line rushers in the league.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, Jonathan Taylor is all that and more

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<v Speaker 4>as well. So maybe in a different circumstance, you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>need to tap into Anthony Richardson, or you would need

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<v Speaker 4>to tap in Anthony Richardson. So perhaps the coach a

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<v Speaker 4>little more hesitant there. But if he's on the roster,

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<v Speaker 4>you might as well do yourself service and see what

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<v Speaker 4>utilities can get out of him. Even if it's not much,

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<v Speaker 4>it's better than him simply watching every single game from

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<v Speaker 4>the bench.

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<v Speaker 1>Field.

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<v Speaker 2>Jays joined us so Daniel Jones on the rebound from

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<v Speaker 2>that injury, and we'll start right here. Does it surprise

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<v Speaker 2>you that he's making at least from what we've told,

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<v Speaker 2>been told, and what we have seen so much progress,

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<v Speaker 2>and then how would you factor in what to expect

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<v Speaker 2>considering how good he was up until the point a

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<v Speaker 2>year ago when he was compromised and done due to injury.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Daniel, what a remarkable rehabit process so far. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>he certainly seems like he is more than ahead of

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<v Speaker 4>a typical schedule. He's way ahead of a typical schedule.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Daniel was in some ways reflective of how

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<v Speaker 4>I think this Colts team. It's a bit of a

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<v Speaker 4>pendulum team in twenty twenty six, So, I mean, my

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<v Speaker 4>dad is there sort of two.

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<v Speaker 5>Sides to it.

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<v Speaker 4>The good version of Daniel Jones, the Rabits career has

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<v Speaker 4>some really good I mean he's put He took a

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<v Speaker 4>Giants team to the playoffs the Outdold with her cousins.

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<v Speaker 5>In that game they beat the Vikings.

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<v Speaker 4>This was a few years ago, of course, and then

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<v Speaker 4>last year he was playing like a playoff quarterback for

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<v Speaker 4>much of the first half of the season and then

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<v Speaker 4>he got it wasn't quite as perfect in the game's

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<v Speaker 4>leading up to him.

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<v Speaker 5>Still, he just played a really good ball, good enough

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<v Speaker 5>to help you win a lot of meaningful games.

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<v Speaker 4>So, but the Colts have several players that like the

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<v Speaker 4>best version of them can be really good that the

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<v Speaker 4>worst version can become be a problem. And this team,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not a house of cars, not the right term.

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<v Speaker 4>But I could see this team competing for the.

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<v Speaker 5>Playoffs once again. I could also see this team finishing

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<v Speaker 5>third of this division. Right, that would be not surprising

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<v Speaker 5>any of us because it happened last year. So it's

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<v Speaker 5>a big year.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a pressure cooker, perhaps every sad at any time

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<v Speaker 4>a team makes an announcement at the end of the

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<v Speaker 4>season to say that they are keeping the head coach

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<v Speaker 4>in the GM, it means the year ahead is a

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<v Speaker 4>pressure year, right, So, Daniel Jones, in this entire Colts franchise,

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<v Speaker 4>I do believe based some pressure this year, just giving

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<v Speaker 4>all the circumstances of what took place last year and

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<v Speaker 4>over the past six or seven years.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know field you at ESPN, when you compile

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<v Speaker 2>all these fantasy football numbers as well, you kind of

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<v Speaker 2>view as what you saw last time he was on

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<v Speaker 2>the field, But also you compile that with what has

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<v Speaker 2>been historically his past or what has been the connection

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<v Speaker 2>to it. Would you expect him to have a season

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<v Speaker 2>this year if healthy as he had until he was

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<v Speaker 2>injured a year ago, or would there seem to be

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of a decline. How would you view him

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<v Speaker 2>through I guess the lens in this case of fantasy

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<v Speaker 2>football numbers.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the fantasy football outlook is this is Daniel Jones

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<v Speaker 4>obviously has a lot of upside. He was really good

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<v Speaker 4>last year, especially in the first half of the season.

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<v Speaker 4>The question mark on Daniel is when you're coming back

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<v Speaker 4>from an achilles hair. A big part of Daniels fantasy

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<v Speaker 4>values tied to his legs and is the team going

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<v Speaker 4>to be judicious with Daniel Jones given the fact coming

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<v Speaker 4>off of one of the most significant injuries that we

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<v Speaker 4>see relatively frequently around the NFL. So Daniel Jones can

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<v Speaker 4>certainly be a very very solid fantasy football quarterback. Is

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<v Speaker 4>Quebec seventeen for me in my rankings because I am

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<v Speaker 4>accounting for the possibility of him not being as lethal

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<v Speaker 4>as a runner as he was at the time last year.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that would be rooted by the Colts. It

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<v Speaker 4>would not be a merit of Daniel Jones in real football.

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<v Speaker 4>It would just be a reality of a guy it's

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<v Speaker 4>closely removed with December seventh. I believe it was when

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<v Speaker 4>he popped his achilles and this old season kind of

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<v Speaker 4>went by the wayside from.

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<v Speaker 2>There, field, Jonathan Taylor got that two year extension. What's

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<v Speaker 2>your fantasy football expertise tell you about the culture running

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<v Speaker 2>back going into this year?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, forth rank running back for me, Jonathan Taylor. I

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<v Speaker 4>believe it's the betting favorite to lead the NFL in

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<v Speaker 4>rushing yards the season.

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<v Speaker 5>Is just a remarkable, remarkable talent.

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<v Speaker 4>If we don't see as much of Daniel Jones running,

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<v Speaker 4>It's good things for Jonathan Taylor's fantasy value because it

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<v Speaker 4>means more opportunities for Jonathan Taylor right specifically at the

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<v Speaker 4>goal line, where he's already going to be led the

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<v Speaker 4>NFL and Russian touchdowns last season, A good bet to

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<v Speaker 4>do that any year, but the possibility of getting twenty

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<v Speaker 4>rushing touchdowns, it's greater for Jonathan Taylor then probably any

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<v Speaker 4>running back in the NFL, maybe alongside.

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<v Speaker 5>Derrick Henry or somebody like that.

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<v Speaker 4>So my fourth right funning back, I'd be surprised if

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<v Speaker 4>he went much lower than seventh or eighth overall in

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<v Speaker 4>most fantasy football drafts and guy that you know, remember

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<v Speaker 4>there is agony over whether to extend him the first

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<v Speaker 4>time around, and here we are and he has already

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<v Speaker 4>been extended once again. So he's just been a hallmark

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<v Speaker 4>player for the Colts since being drafted.

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<v Speaker 2>Field Yates ESPN joins us we have seen a rebirth

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<v Speaker 2>of sorts of value at the running back position, and

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<v Speaker 2>now it's more reflective as it always has been in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of the world of fantasy football. But in the

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<v Speaker 2>actual NFL world, Why have we seen that positional rejuvenation

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<v Speaker 2>here recently?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think it's probably a couple of factors. Is one,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the numbers robbinsly going to go up because

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<v Speaker 4>the salary cap is going up. The larger the salary cap,

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<v Speaker 4>the larger the salary. I also think we're in just

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<v Speaker 4>this really unique period with some great, great players at

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<v Speaker 4>running back right John Robinson, Jamier Gibbs, Jonathan Taylor, three

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<v Speaker 4>guys who not only are you know, can be particular

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<v Speaker 4>powers right now, but also guys who like the prime

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<v Speaker 4>may not be reached yet for them. Jonathan's a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit older than those two guys, so maybe Jonathan is

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<v Speaker 4>in the prime of his career. But it's it's kind

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<v Speaker 4>of a timing thing right now. So we've got some

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<v Speaker 4>really good backs and you know, we may have another

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<v Speaker 4>one as a rookie.

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<v Speaker 5>And Jeremiah Love.

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<v Speaker 4>Made his pre season debut last night. You know, I

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<v Speaker 4>think also teams are starting to realize a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>of Yet it's this is what history has told us

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<v Speaker 4>we aren't supposed to do. But some of the best

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<v Speaker 4>movers and most successful stories in the NFL have been

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<v Speaker 4>the people that have been ahead of curves. And I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not saying that paying running back top of the market

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<v Speaker 4>is definitely ahead of the curve, but it could be. Hey,

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<v Speaker 4>people are telling us to zig, and that's when we zag.

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<v Speaker 4>So team are saying, I'll pay a great running back

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<v Speaker 4>and I'll find some value elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 5>So things tend to be cyclical in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 4>Perhaps is the start of a new cycle running backs

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<v Speaker 4>are appreciated.

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<v Speaker 2>This is field Yates, a VESPN talking NFL and NFL

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<v Speaker 2>Fantasy football as well. He joins us via the Andy

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<v Speaker 2>Moore Automotive Group hootline. This is the ride with JMV

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<v Speaker 2>downtown across from Cambridge Fieldhouse. Fever coming up later off tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get into that in just a second too. So

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<v Speaker 2>Alec Pierce, new big deal wide receiver coming back from

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<v Speaker 2>a surgery, and Tyler Warren you're number two at tied end.

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<v Speaker 2>What is the fantasy value and your thoughts on the

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<v Speaker 2>type of season you expect from both of those Colt players.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Alex a really interesting one because the contract that

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<v Speaker 4>he signed with the Colts this offseason was what most

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<v Speaker 4>free agent contracts are at their core, which is a

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<v Speaker 4>bet on what the player is going to become. But

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<v Speaker 4>to be clear, I mean, alex sample size and body

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<v Speaker 4>of work is lesser than most receivers that are getting

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<v Speaker 4>paid around where he ranks in average per your pay right.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean people have had some figures talk when they

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<v Speaker 4>saw that number. Up to this point in fantasy, he

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<v Speaker 4>hasn't been a top forty player at the position of

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<v Speaker 4>wide receiver, but he gets there this year. Absolutely he

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<v Speaker 4>could if he's healthy, but there's some question mark surrounding

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<v Speaker 4>his health. And then also the way in which Alec

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<v Speaker 4>has been used. He's been more of a downfield vertical threat,

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<v Speaker 4>which in fantasy the best version of that is like

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<v Speaker 4>a Mike Evans type player, but also requires excellent efficiency.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll see whether Alex brings us to the table. No complaints,

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<v Speaker 4>no worries whatsoever about Tyler Warren. He's going to be

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<v Speaker 4>incredibly busy. He's an excellent, excellent tight end and given

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<v Speaker 4>all the injuries at pass catcher right now for the Colts,

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<v Speaker 4>shouldn't surprise anybody if he challenges for one hundred and

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<v Speaker 4>thirty or so targets this year.

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<v Speaker 2>You know when we should factor this in the question

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<v Speaker 2>I asked a little bit earlier about Anthony Richardson's senior field,

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<v Speaker 2>about gadgetry offensively with Shane Steiken, that may all be

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<v Speaker 2>used up by Tyler Warren at this point.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, a lefty quarterback for Mechanicsville, Pennsylvania. He's got some

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<v Speaker 4>serious game to him. Yeah, I think that's totally far.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Tyler is such a unique player. I think

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<v Speaker 4>that's the pensyl bing. I believe it's Virginia. Is Tyler's

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<v Speaker 4>from state. I apologize for that, but yeah, that's totally fair.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that like he's gonna see some rushes this year,

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<v Speaker 4>perhaps some stuff at the bottom, you know, at the

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<v Speaker 4>goal line. So Tayler is such a talented player, the

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<v Speaker 4>kind of guy that you could really build. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>a significant portion of your passing game around. He's a special, special.

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<v Speaker 1>Player ESPN's field Yes, joins us.

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<v Speaker 2>Give us some Fantasy Football twenty twenty six risers in

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<v Speaker 2>your opinion?

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<v Speaker 5>Who risers? Well, we talked to you.

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<v Speaker 4>Alex Pearson is the kind of guy that has a

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<v Speaker 4>chance to become a riser. But some of the players

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<v Speaker 4>I like this year a Mecca Abuca from the Buccaneers

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<v Speaker 4>stepping into a clear cut wide receiver one role for them,

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<v Speaker 4>Polston Loveland from Chicago Bears. He and Tyler Warren kind

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<v Speaker 4>of vying to be the next tight end to crack

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<v Speaker 4>that All Pro ranking. It's you know, bruck Hoers and

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<v Speaker 4>Tyler and Trade McBride have kind of a grip on

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<v Speaker 4>that our have over the past couple of seasons, with

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<v Speaker 4>George Kittle mixed in there as well. And then Justin

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<v Speaker 4>Herbert's the guy that I think is due for a

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<v Speaker 4>big bump. You know, Justin plays in the system run

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<v Speaker 4>by Mike McDaniel, and Mike McDaniel was able to.

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<v Speaker 5>Make to a tongue by Loa the NFL's leading passer.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Justin Herbert's more talented player than two and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm excited about what it's going to look like once

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<v Speaker 4>we get to the regular season.

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<v Speaker 2>For the Chargers those on the decline out there, a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of highlights for people, maybe the side stiff if possible.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, a guy like DK metcalf is one that

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<v Speaker 4>gives me a lot of you know pause, He's just

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<v Speaker 4>you know with Dk, he's so talented, but he relies

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<v Speaker 4>on efficiency down the field.

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<v Speaker 5>And his quarterback, Aaron Rodgers.

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<v Speaker 4>Had one of the shortest average depth of targets amongst

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<v Speaker 4>starting qbs last year.

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<v Speaker 5>Aaron just wants to kind of dec and dunk his.

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<v Speaker 4>Way down the field as opposed to threaten you really

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<v Speaker 4>far down the field.

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<v Speaker 2>Draft strategy for folks out there this particular year, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if it changes. It always seems like it's

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<v Speaker 2>the same for me. But does it change for you?

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<v Speaker 2>And should it change for those out there participating?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, what I would tell you, Let me give you

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<v Speaker 4>just two simple rules that will apply until the end

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<v Speaker 4>of time.

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<v Speaker 5>Most likely. One is you've got to play the draft room.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not different than the NFL draft in that regard, right,

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<v Speaker 4>unless you're thinking first overall, you don't really know exactly

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<v Speaker 4>what's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 5>So play the draft room right.

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<v Speaker 4>The second rule of fount It's just it's really you're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna reach a pointer in the season for running backs

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<v Speaker 4>just aren't gonna be in stock, and so get them.

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<v Speaker 5>When you can.

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<v Speaker 4>They're trying to break a tie between two players that

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<v Speaker 4>you're closely ranked. One are running back on wide receiver

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<v Speaker 4>wrab the running.

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<v Speaker 2>Back they field and closing. And I'm going to ask

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<v Speaker 2>you something early odd. It's about defense, and it pertains

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<v Speaker 2>to the Colts the value of a defense like the

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<v Speaker 2>culture built right now until further notice, where.

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<v Speaker 1>They're back end heavy, meaning they.

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<v Speaker 2>Rely on Sauce Gardner on Sharvarius Ward on Cam Bonham

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<v Speaker 2>as their playmakers in the secondary and not so much

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<v Speaker 2>a belief in a lot of frequency getting after the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>Can that be more or less of that? How do

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<v Speaker 2>you view that in terms of the world defense? Because

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<v Speaker 2>you got playmaking ability and you got talented players on

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<v Speaker 2>the secondary. But is that something you sidestep considering what

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know about Layatu Latu and Ardent Key coming

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<v Speaker 2>off the edge.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, what I would say is that for fantasy, if

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to draft the defense, it's going to be

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<v Speaker 4>the one that's more likely to pile up a ton

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<v Speaker 4>of sacks, turnovers and touchdowns. Score off of turnovers are

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<v Speaker 4>impossible to predict, so I tend to lean towards the defenses,

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<v Speaker 4>like maybe the Denver Broncos the Houston Texans are going

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<v Speaker 4>to pile.

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<v Speaker 5>Up nine thousand facs during the season.

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<v Speaker 2>Makes a lot of sense right there, Field Yates, When

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<v Speaker 2>can we catch you again? I think you're all over

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<v Speaker 2>the TV every time I'm talking of the afternoon. You're

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<v Speaker 2>like looking right across from me on the television monitor

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<v Speaker 2>when you guys go fourth hurts today.

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<v Speaker 4>And then Monday morning, Monday few Friday. It's an am

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<v Speaker 4>Eastern time fantasy focused. So we have a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>fun there.

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<v Speaker 2>Field, It's always great to talk with you, man. Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for dropping and we'll do it again here in Indianapolis

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<v Speaker 2>if you want you over the course of the season. Two, pal,

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<v Speaker 2>that sounds great. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>You got a Field h right there. The Andy Moore

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<v Speaker 1>Automotive Group potline, good stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to the Colts and the Patriots. Last night

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<v Speaker 2>some of the more interesting players noted players of the

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<v Speaker 2>Colts and how that also could pertain to your fantasy

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<v Speaker 2>football draft. You got a little bit of everything right there.

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<v Speaker 2>This show, you get a little bit of everything meantime

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<v Speaker 2>on the Andy More Automotic Group plotline thirteen thirteen was

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<v Speaker 2>the final last night and joining us to describe that

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<v Speaker 2>and more. He was there in Foxboro at Gillette Joeli

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<v Speaker 2>Erickson at the Star. That's going to be a staple

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<v Speaker 2>every fighter during the football season.

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<v Speaker 1>Who joins us? Now? Hello, Joe?

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<v Speaker 6>How are you are you?

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<v Speaker 2>No, We've got a little bit of problematic sound right there, Caleb.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I heard me twice? That's okay. We hurt myself

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<v Speaker 2>twice and once is certainly enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you once is enough. Hey.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, Mel mcmags wrote down the back basketball

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<v Speaker 2>courts north side of the fair Grounds coming up tomorrow

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<v Speaker 2>eleven until one.

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<v Speaker 1>You're shooting against me, Joe? Are you back now?

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<v Speaker 2>Without hearing ourselves twice in this conversation here, Boddy, Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 6>Can only hear myself once now, that's important.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. See, the last thing we want to do, we

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<v Speaker 2>barely want to hear me like once, all right, So

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<v Speaker 2>the last thing we need to do is hear me

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<v Speaker 2>twice on this I want to start with you on

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<v Speaker 2>Brian Mason torn multi torn ligaments. It sounds like it

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<v Speaker 2>is as bad as it looked. Is that true? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, from my understandings, it's as bad as it looked.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't have a ton of other details on when

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<v Speaker 7>he's going to be back, or what that looks like

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<v Speaker 7>or anything. I just know multiple torn ligaments. Anytime there's

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<v Speaker 7>more than one, that's a pretty bad knee injury. But this,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm always kind of surprised this doesn't happen more often

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<v Speaker 7>on the sidelines. You know, you think about all they

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<v Speaker 7>got to get out of the way, but there's not

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<v Speaker 7>always a ton of room back there, ending in front

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<v Speaker 7>of players and stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>And he did try to.

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<v Speaker 7>Move wow, and just kind of got caught up in it.

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<v Speaker 7>It's surprising to me that this happens as infrequently as

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<v Speaker 7>it does.

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<v Speaker 1>In the NFL. No, I I completely agree with that too.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it just me?

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<v Speaker 2>I wondered why Anthony Richardson Senior didn't throw that last

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<v Speaker 2>ball just for the hell of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you wondering too?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 7>No, no, At that last uh last time we got

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<v Speaker 7>the last play there, I was like, let's let's get.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of here.

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<v Speaker 6>Ah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean I was just taking Joel. I mean, hell,

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<v Speaker 2>while we're here, let's see this dude arrowed out and

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<v Speaker 2>see what the hell happens. Because I didn't think that Riley.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't think that Riley probably had it in him,

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<v Speaker 2>but I thought that Richardson Senior probably had the arm

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<v Speaker 2>strength in him for that.

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<v Speaker 7>I I kind of wanted that to send Spencer Schrader

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<v Speaker 7>back out for a seventy yarder and see what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you're gonna try to do that up to

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<v Speaker 2>my groupie guy. Huh, I'm a groupie groupie right here.

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<v Speaker 6>He hit that, He hit that sixty one yard or

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<v Speaker 6>so good. I thought, you know, that's let's just see

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<v Speaker 6>what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>See.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of my problem is and I told I had

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<v Speaker 2>Blake on the show last week, and I said, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>last time I did a kick her on the show

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<v Speaker 2>was Matt Gay and I think we all saw how

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<v Speaker 2>that ended.

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<v Speaker 1>D Sho you want to be here?

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<v Speaker 2>And and he said yes, and then said since that

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<v Speaker 2>point in time. He was perfect at that moment, but

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<v Speaker 2>since then not so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe.

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<v Speaker 6>Did you see what Rabel said after the game last night?

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<v Speaker 7>No matter who wins this, no matter who wins this

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<v Speaker 7>job for the Colts, I think the other, the other,

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<v Speaker 7>the other kicker is going to have a job somewhere

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<v Speaker 7>because you know, the.

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<v Speaker 6>Patriots kicker missed three times.

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<v Speaker 7>And even if it's not them, there's other kicking competitions

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<v Speaker 7>that are pretty bad. And these two guys, you know,

0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:47.160
<v Speaker 7>have track records, and then Trader kicks that ball. Trader's

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<v Speaker 7>starting to kick it the way I'm used to seeing

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<v Speaker 7>him kick it. So I think that no matter what happens,

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<v Speaker 7>both of those guys are gonna end up with a job.

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<v Speaker 1>I said last night.

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<v Speaker 2>That that somebody that the guy that doesn't make the

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<v Speaker 2>Colts is going to end up in Foxborough. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>a that's a great way to put it right there too,

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<v Speaker 2>because you're right there in front of Rabel's face, and

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<v Speaker 2>that dude last night wasn't going to have it and

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<v Speaker 2>it did not look endaring on the sideline when they

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<v Speaker 2>showed Rabel after those misses.

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<v Speaker 7>Right when I covered the Saints, back when I covered

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<v Speaker 7>the Saints, there was a training camp that we covered

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<v Speaker 7>a kicking competition and uh got to the end of it,

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<v Speaker 7>thought they declared a winner, and then they cut both

0:22:30.480 --> 0:22:34.320
<v Speaker 7>of them and because because they had been in joint

0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:36.880
<v Speaker 7>practices with the Ravens, and they liked what they saw

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<v Speaker 7>out of Will Lutts and what they heard from John

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<v Speaker 7>Harbaugh about Will Lutts, and so they just went with

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<v Speaker 7>the guy that they'd seen in joint practices.

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<v Speaker 6>And if Andy Borrigals.

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<v Speaker 7>Continues to struggle in New England, it sure feels like

0:22:49.600 --> 0:22:52.400
<v Speaker 7>Mike Rabel was watching the way grouping and the wall,

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<v Speaker 7>the way the ball came off of Groupie in Trader's

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<v Speaker 7>foot and was like, you know, I feel like we

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<v Speaker 7>got some options right here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and had no doubt. Joe A.

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<v Speaker 2>Erikson of the Stars are they Eddy Moore Automotive Group Potline?

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<v Speaker 1>What are your takeaways from last night?

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<v Speaker 2>Whether it's you know, quarterback, backup battles or positional situations,

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<v Speaker 2>or kickers or ye know, running backs, whatever, did anything

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<v Speaker 2>strike you more interesting than other thoughts coming off of

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<v Speaker 2>last night's preseason game?

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<v Speaker 7>One, I thought at backup quarterback and then at kicker

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<v Speaker 7>where we're talking about it, I thought that those those

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<v Speaker 7>two races were heading in one direction.

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<v Speaker 6>And then last night kind of flipped it back on

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<v Speaker 6>its head a little bit and made it a little

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<v Speaker 6>more open.

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<v Speaker 7>You know Spencer's Raider had been struggling, admittedly.

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<v Speaker 6>With pulling the ball left.

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<v Speaker 7>This week, with the joint practices with the game, he

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<v Speaker 7>started to look a little bit more like himself.

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<v Speaker 6>And they've said all along those.

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<v Speaker 7>Preseason games are going to matter the most. They said

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<v Speaker 7>the same thing with the quarterback competition.

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<v Speaker 6>And I know he had the fumble.

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<v Speaker 7>I know the ball was a little bit like not

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<v Speaker 7>well placed on the interception. I still put most of

0:24:03.600 --> 0:24:06.760
<v Speaker 7>that on coleman Owen not catching it. But Anthony Richardson

0:24:06.760 --> 0:24:08.600
<v Speaker 7>looked really good. That's I think that's the best he's

0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:11.840
<v Speaker 7>looked in training camp the entire time. And Riley Leonard,

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<v Speaker 7>rather than you know, by his own admission, struggled, you know,

0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:17.359
<v Speaker 7>two days after looking really good in the practice. So

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<v Speaker 7>I thought that to two position battles that we've been

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<v Speaker 7>watching and it felt like we had clear leaders in

0:24:25.359 --> 0:24:27.280
<v Speaker 7>maybe kind of got flipped on their head a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Joel A.

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<v Speaker 2>Erickson of The Star is with us on the Andy

0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Moore Automotive Group potline.

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<v Speaker 1>So Rick Van Surrey brought this up to me in

0:24:35.040 --> 0:24:35.720
<v Speaker 1>the Colts.

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<v Speaker 2>Pregame huddle last night talking about would like to see

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Taysom Hill type of usage of Anthony Richardson,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you know, also brought up the fact that

0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:51.119
<v Speaker 2>that has never been a play that Shane Stiken has made.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess what I'm asking here, Are you surprised? Is

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<v Speaker 2>that something they should do? They should look at if

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<v Speaker 2>Richardson is going to be here, what the hell or

0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:03.600
<v Speaker 2>does it come down to? If they're going to do gadgetry,

0:25:03.600 --> 0:25:05.560
<v Speaker 2>it's probably going to involve Tyler.

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<v Speaker 7>Warren, you know, having been there when taysoon when they

0:25:11.440 --> 0:25:13.360
<v Speaker 7>started the Taysom Hill stuff in New Orleans.

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<v Speaker 6>I think I'm always open to.

0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:17.280
<v Speaker 7>That idea that I'm always open to the idea of

0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:19.960
<v Speaker 7>moving somebody talented around the formation we saw last night.

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<v Speaker 6>Richardson still looks pretty.

0:25:23.320 --> 0:25:25.720
<v Speaker 7>Darn good on the hoof and he's out there in

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<v Speaker 7>the open field.

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<v Speaker 6>I do think you worry a little bit more.

0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:34.280
<v Speaker 7>Than you did with Taysom about the injury, not because

0:25:34.600 --> 0:25:37.120
<v Speaker 7>Taysom Hill was an injury prone he had his own injuries,

0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:40.320
<v Speaker 7>but just because of the backup situation. But if you

0:25:40.359 --> 0:25:42.000
<v Speaker 7>like Riley Leonard and you've got all three of these

0:25:42.000 --> 0:25:45.240
<v Speaker 7>guys here together, you know, why not why not why

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<v Speaker 7>not use it as a why not use Richardson as

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<v Speaker 7>a as.

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<v Speaker 6>A curve ball for teams.

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<v Speaker 7>And that you know you you could do that stuff

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<v Speaker 7>with Tyler Warren too, and it doesn't it doesn't exclude

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<v Speaker 7>it from happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you feel that that's something.

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<v Speaker 2>That Shane Tyke has ever thought about or whatever consider

0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:06.719
<v Speaker 2>because for me, it's something that he hasn't and won't.

0:26:08.200 --> 0:26:11.800
<v Speaker 7>I I think he'll look for any any way to

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<v Speaker 7>do it. I don't know the dynamics of you know,

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<v Speaker 7>if you know.

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<v Speaker 6>Is Richardson open to it? Is he?

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<v Speaker 7>Because the other thing is that you know, with with

0:26:21.400 --> 0:26:23.439
<v Speaker 7>the whole the whole way Taysom Hill got started.

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<v Speaker 6>He's his first playing time in New Orleans was not

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<v Speaker 6>as a quarterback.

0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:32.359
<v Speaker 7>It was as a special team. So he was coming

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<v Speaker 7>from the other side of things, just looking for any

0:26:34.240 --> 0:26:36.200
<v Speaker 7>way to get on the field. Richardson was a starter.

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:39.760
<v Speaker 7>Richardson obviously still wants an opportunity. I don't I have

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<v Speaker 7>no idea if he'd be open to it or not,

0:26:43.520 --> 0:26:45.800
<v Speaker 7>but I'd be interested, And I think Shane Sdyken is

0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:48.920
<v Speaker 7>generally open to, you know, whatever will work.

0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:54.439
<v Speaker 2>Jolly Erickson of the Star with us, So I'm assuming

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<v Speaker 2>every Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you good with that? Now?

0:26:56.600 --> 0:26:58.159
<v Speaker 2>Does that mean you're going to show up at some

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<v Speaker 2>of our locations or are you still a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>afraid of Sometimes?

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<v Speaker 7>I think I've I think I've generally showed up at

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<v Speaker 7>least at least once a season here. I'll do my best,

0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:12.800
<v Speaker 7>but we know, I have three boys, and they got

0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:14.840
<v Speaker 7>stuff going on, and I got to get him to places.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean you could, just like let Brank Brian Kellikan,

0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:19.440
<v Speaker 2>Baby shit, everybody, what the.

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:26.119
<v Speaker 7>Hell, I'll let Brian know that you've You've given me

0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:28.320
<v Speaker 7>permission to just drop drop the kids off at his house?

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:30.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, yeah, yeah, he'll feel good about that. Hey,

0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:34.360
<v Speaker 2>coming off of last night, besides the special teams coordinator,

0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:37.639
<v Speaker 2>any other injuries of note, and then let's look ahead

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:41.000
<v Speaker 2>really quickly to the joint practices with the Falcons and

0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:43.440
<v Speaker 2>then preseason Game two coming up next Saturday.

0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:47.280
<v Speaker 6>Jalen Jones was evaluated for a concussion. I don't have a.

0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:50.879
<v Speaker 7>They didn't say that he was cleared the way they

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:53.800
<v Speaker 7>did with Hudder Woler, so that that's really the biggest

0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:57.639
<v Speaker 7>injury that we know of coming off of it. The

0:27:57.720 --> 0:28:01.120
<v Speaker 7>other one, Anthony Gould didn't. I don't I'm not sure

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 7>if he dressed or not. He didn't really play much.

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:04.679
<v Speaker 7>If he did, I'm kind of curious to see if

0:28:04.680 --> 0:28:05.640
<v Speaker 7>he's practicing.

0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:08.920
<v Speaker 6>And we get back on Saturday, and then next week.

0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:10.159
<v Speaker 7>With the Falcons, I think this is going to be

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 7>another good test for some of this cornerback depth that

0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:16.000
<v Speaker 7>we saw really struggle this week in New England.

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:17.800
<v Speaker 6>Mackai Blackman Jonathan.

0:28:17.520 --> 0:28:20.960
<v Speaker 7>Edwards both both really struggled. And those guys are not

0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:22.640
<v Speaker 7>the first one on the depth chart. The first one

0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:24.880
<v Speaker 7>on the depth chart is Cam Taylor Britt. If somebody's hurt,

0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:28.159
<v Speaker 7>but Tarvarius Awards hurt right now with a back injury,

0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:32.040
<v Speaker 7>and so you're already into Taylor Britt. And I think

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:34.240
<v Speaker 7>we saw last season and sometimes those five and six

0:28:34.280 --> 0:28:35.080
<v Speaker 7>guys play.

0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:37.120
<v Speaker 6>They'd look good in Colts camp.

0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:41.040
<v Speaker 7>The Colts do not have the receiver depth that test

0:28:41.120 --> 0:28:42.920
<v Speaker 7>them as much as the New England Patriots do, and

0:28:42.960 --> 0:28:45.520
<v Speaker 7>I think the Falcons, you know, with Drake London and

0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:47.480
<v Speaker 7>some of their people, can test them in similar ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Jolie ericson of the Star, He's going to be a

0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:54.400
<v Speaker 2>staple right here every Friday, and sometimes maybe out with

0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:59.520
<v Speaker 2>us drinking. Other times maybe he's got family responsibilities, but

0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:01.040
<v Speaker 2>he's going to be round and we love it a

0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:05.080
<v Speaker 2>great deal. And we have similar thoughts regarding Blackman and Edwards.

0:29:05.120 --> 0:29:07.080
<v Speaker 2>They played a lot of snaps in that secondary a

0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 2>year ago and they got they got targeted and worked

0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:12.240
<v Speaker 2>last night by Danny DeVito's son.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's not great.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it didn't. It didn't look great. Hopefully, hopefully when

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:20.080
<v Speaker 7>I'm on every Friday.

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 6>It won't be in an airport. Hopefully this is the

0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:23.560
<v Speaker 6>only airport we have this time.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, did Kayden Curry?

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<v Speaker 2>You think Kayden Curry made the team with a performance

0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:29.720
<v Speaker 2>last night or well on his way to making that team,

0:29:29.720 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 2>because I mean, I know he may have been playing

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:35.800
<v Speaker 2>against dudes that's going to be selling insurance coming up

0:29:35.800 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 2>in a month or so. But speaking of working guys,

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:40.040
<v Speaker 2>he worked dudes last.

0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:42.680
<v Speaker 6>Night, So not only the defense.

0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:45.200
<v Speaker 7>The other interesting thing with Kayden Curry was that he

0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:48.400
<v Speaker 7>was out there on special teams on the first kickoff,

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:51.480
<v Speaker 7>on the first kickoff return, that was out there. If

0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 7>if Brian Mason likes him as a special teamer, that'll

0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:57.400
<v Speaker 7>go a long way towards Kaid and Curry making the roster.

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<v Speaker 1>He is and we know this to be true.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter if he's playing against Westfield or against Michigan.

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:06.760
<v Speaker 1>He's a badass dude right there.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's exactly what I expected, and anybody that's ever

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:13.160
<v Speaker 2>watched him around CG they also expected that. But it

0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 2>was great to see that for sure. All Right, Hey,

0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 2>whenever we're live, you gott to join us. Now. I

0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:23.240
<v Speaker 2>understand that family concerns sometimes intervene, but hey, got to

0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:26.960
<v Speaker 2>keep in mind, guys, I'm a bad influence, So understand that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Joe, I try.

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:31.320
<v Speaker 6>I know you might get me.

0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:33.120
<v Speaker 7>You might get me from the I might have to

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:35.240
<v Speaker 7>do this for the Indiannited State Fair next week, depending

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:36.160
<v Speaker 7>on how it goes.

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh oh oh yes, can you imagine some of these

0:30:41.960 --> 0:30:43.760
<v Speaker 2>bars and places we're going to be in the fall

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:46.520
<v Speaker 2>to Joel, just I'm gonna get you prepared.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, okay, I'm listening.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm listening.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate. I appreciate your pal. Thank you, you bet

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 1>you bet.

0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:56.360
<v Speaker 2>Joe lay ericson to the Star and the Andy Moore

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<v Speaker 2>Automotive Group Potline the Ride with JMV. Love Winning Man,

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<v Speaker 2>I love winning.

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<v Speaker 4>You hear what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like better than losing that He three five and

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<v Speaker 2>one oh seven five the fan.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for joining us.

0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:20.680
<v Speaker 2>There was really no winner of losers last night, and

0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 2>maybe Brian Mason who got rolled up and got the

0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:28.960
<v Speaker 2>ligaments torn. The Colts special teams coordinator on that final

0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:34.120
<v Speaker 2>play thirteen thirteen Colts and the Patriots preseason last night,

0:31:34.640 --> 0:31:37.800
<v Speaker 2>Field yates with a description of what he saw and

0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:41.560
<v Speaker 2>thoughts really all the way around with Field from ESPN

0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:45.960
<v Speaker 2>a little bit earlier. Joey Erickson also covered that and

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<v Speaker 2>podcasts abound one seven five fan dot Com. Pat Sullivan

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<v Speaker 2>Sullivan Hardware and Garden. Another Pat's going to join us.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Pat Boylan who is the voice of the Fever.

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<v Speaker 2>Wi Antonella's going to rejoin us too, and Alex Antes

0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:03.840
<v Speaker 2>of Hearst and Lamontes who brings us and this is

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<v Speaker 2>a destination for you, Pivot bar and balcony. Now normally

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:12.160
<v Speaker 2>we hang out on the best balcony here in Central Indiana,

0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:13.800
<v Speaker 2>but the weather was threatening.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it looks like it's trying to clear off a.

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<v Speaker 2>Little bit, which is good. But we do have a

0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:21.080
<v Speaker 2>great crowd. And speaking of which we're giving away stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Elizabeth Murphy in the house. Elizabeth Murphy. I need

0:32:28.040 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 2>an Elizabeth Murphy. If not, we're gonna have to get

0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:35.120
<v Speaker 2>another name right here that Debbie is gonna select Elizabeth Murphy.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you here going once? Going twice? No sale?

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<v Speaker 2>Jane Littwin Len, I'm gonna butcher that last name.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on over here, Jane.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, how badly did I butcher your last name?

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty good? Where are you from?

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<v Speaker 2>New Jersey? Jane congratulates. Let me give this to you,

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<v Speaker 2>go hook. Yeah, thank you very much. Great to meet you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Jane is from New Jersey. Right there for

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<v Speaker 2>the Wings and the Fever. Later on tonight and the

0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:10.920
<v Speaker 2>broadcast duo Debbie Antonelli joins us. Pat Boiler is here

0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:13.760
<v Speaker 2>Alex Lamontes as well. First, Pat, let's welcome you in.

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Are you all setting ready?

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<v Speaker 8>I'm ready to go.

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<v Speaker 9>This is jarring, though, because I've had so many conversations

0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 9>with you in personal Yes, so many conversations over the

0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 9>phone over the years, but I think this is maybe

0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:28.240
<v Speaker 9>first time on air with you in person.

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<v Speaker 2>This events like this kind of take you have to

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<v Speaker 2>just be very sporadic.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very sporadic. So it's good. We got a lot

0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 1>of stuff go and you you guys have the same thing.

0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:40.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean you're talking in front of you know, a

0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:42.160
<v Speaker 2>lot of people and a lot of stuff going on

0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:45.240
<v Speaker 2>as well, but no, these are the best things like

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<v Speaker 2>this too, and then to have Debbie with us as well,

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<v Speaker 2>which is outstanding.

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<v Speaker 1>How thanks going for you.

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<v Speaker 9>Things are going really well. You know, it's been a

0:33:52.400 --> 0:33:54.920
<v Speaker 9>good season. I think things are trending in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 9>It's been a couple of weeks since we've had a game,

0:33:57.440 --> 0:34:01.000
<v Speaker 9>you know. It's so different now and most ways for

0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:04.120
<v Speaker 9>the much better. But just a few years ago we

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:06.320
<v Speaker 9>did thirty nine of the forty games. Now I think

0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:09.239
<v Speaker 9>our number is twenty five or something like that. So

0:34:09.560 --> 0:34:11.520
<v Speaker 9>we go these stretches where we go a couple weeks

0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:13.560
<v Speaker 9>without seeing each other, without doing a game. But it's

0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 9>good to be back on the airways here tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's a good thing. Don't get me wrong.

0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:20.439
<v Speaker 2>But you guys should be more prevalent, There's no doubt

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:23.080
<v Speaker 2>about that. But this team is playing his best basketball

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<v Speaker 2>right here.

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:25.760
<v Speaker 1>And right now. Is it not so fun? Right?

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<v Speaker 10>I mean the offensive explosion, the balance, the amount of

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:34.080
<v Speaker 10>players that can make plays. This is a playmakers game tonight.

0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:37.440
<v Speaker 10>Shot makers game. This should be one hundred and twenty

0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:38.920
<v Speaker 10>to one hundred and seventeen tonight.

0:34:38.960 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I really.

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<v Speaker 10>Think the way the Fever are playing, the pace that

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:45.120
<v Speaker 10>they play, how hard they run the floor, and how

0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:47.880
<v Speaker 10>wide it opens up all kinds of space. There's a

0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:50.359
<v Speaker 10>lot of really good offensive habits that they have from

0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:52.120
<v Speaker 10>the beginning of the season that have gotten better as

0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:52.920
<v Speaker 10>the years going on.

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<v Speaker 1>So Debbie Antonelli right there.

0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:57.239
<v Speaker 2>Pat Boiler as well, Alex Lamontes is with us and

0:34:57.280 --> 0:35:00.279
<v Speaker 2>he can chime in on any questions if he to

0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:02.640
<v Speaker 2>as well. Hate Pat, you take away anything that the

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:05.000
<v Speaker 2>first game of the season was a disappointment and it

0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:07.160
<v Speaker 2>was the team that they're playing later on later on

0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:07.720
<v Speaker 2>this evening.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there any takeaways from that?

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:12.520
<v Speaker 2>Ors things just change so dramatically now it really doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, the game was a lot like deb was describing

0:35:15.160 --> 0:35:17.080
<v Speaker 9>that she expects to see here tonight.

0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:18.520
<v Speaker 8>It was one oh seven one oh four.

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 9>Actually asked to Leah Boston about that a couple days ago,

0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:24.080
<v Speaker 9>and she kind of chuckled. I said, doesn't that seem

0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:26.440
<v Speaker 9>like it was months ago? I mean, it seems like

0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:29.400
<v Speaker 9>a month in the Fever world is like three months

0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:31.800
<v Speaker 9>of the regular world, and she just kind of chuckled

0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:34.560
<v Speaker 9>and said, Yeah, I don't know that there's any takeaways

0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:36.920
<v Speaker 9>from that game. It was so long ago. Things look

0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:39.960
<v Speaker 9>so different now. You hate to see injuries. But Dallas

0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:43.200
<v Speaker 9>has a few significant players who aren't available here tonight.

0:35:43.520 --> 0:35:45.719
<v Speaker 8>I believe many Billings didn't play in that game.

0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:48.319
<v Speaker 9>So I think it's tough to draw a whole lot

0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:52.480
<v Speaker 9>from it other than the fact that you've got offensive playmakers,

0:35:52.520 --> 0:35:54.719
<v Speaker 9>as deb alluded to, all over the floor, and I

0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:57.920
<v Speaker 9>would expect the style to be similar. If neither team

0:35:58.360 --> 0:35:59.799
<v Speaker 9>hits triple digits tonight, I'm going to.

0:35:59.840 --> 0:36:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Be so yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Are we seeing some of the subpar categories with the fever, turnovers,

0:36:07.920 --> 0:36:10.880
<v Speaker 2>fouling too much defensively?

0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Do we see those.

0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:14.680
<v Speaker 2>On the rise right now with them winning and the

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<v Speaker 2>consistency more.

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<v Speaker 10>I think they're getting better in all those categories. And

0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:21.320
<v Speaker 10>I want to give credit to Stephanie White who continues

0:36:21.360 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 10>to add layers to their defense. It's not just under

0:36:24.600 --> 0:36:27.239
<v Speaker 10>overheadstrap by sjam switch drop, the eight different ways you

0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:29.239
<v Speaker 10>can guard to Boss Green or some variation of it.

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:31.440
<v Speaker 10>But it's you know, the two to two one back

0:36:31.480 --> 0:36:34.640
<v Speaker 10>into his own. It's you know, the way we put

0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:38.160
<v Speaker 10>pressure on teams with our offense, that really creates opportunities

0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:42.120
<v Speaker 10>for us defensively up the floor. In transition, there's just

0:36:42.200 --> 0:36:45.640
<v Speaker 10>a lot of layers pressing full court. Those things that

0:36:45.680 --> 0:36:48.800
<v Speaker 10>she has added has made this team better and more complete.

0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:50.920
<v Speaker 1>I think the rotation has trimmed a little bit.

0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:54.799
<v Speaker 10>I definitely think Aliah Boston adjusting to being the four

0:36:55.360 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 10>KK Timpson, you know, coming in the starting lineup and

0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:00.600
<v Speaker 10>allowing the rotation at the five physicis to change a

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:03.839
<v Speaker 10>little bit. All those things are analytical, but there are

0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:07.560
<v Speaker 10>also gut reactions to who you're playing and what you've

0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:10.480
<v Speaker 10>seen in practice and what you need to be doing

0:37:10.480 --> 0:37:14.120
<v Speaker 10>to be Thinking about the playoffs which are coming up soon.

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<v Speaker 9>I think they're trending in the right direction in just

0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:20.640
<v Speaker 9>about every conceivable category. And I'm also a believer in

0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:24.160
<v Speaker 9>when you go months of play or even weeks of play,

0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:26.080
<v Speaker 9>you're of course you're gonna lose. It's gonna happen. I'm

0:37:26.120 --> 0:37:28.839
<v Speaker 9>a believer in how you lose being important. And if

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 9>you look at the fevers last few weeks, they're seven

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:34.319
<v Speaker 9>and nine, they're seven to two in their last nine.

0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 9>You look at those couple of losses, they're within a

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:41.360
<v Speaker 9>couple points at Minnesota end of a road trip. Best

0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:44.600
<v Speaker 9>team record wise in the league is the Mass and

0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:47.319
<v Speaker 9>then the other loss is a game they win nine

0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:50.560
<v Speaker 9>hundred and ninety nine times out of a thousand against

0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:53.560
<v Speaker 9>the Aces and it goes into overtime. So to me,

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:57.719
<v Speaker 9>even when they have lost, they have looked the part

0:37:57.800 --> 0:38:02.919
<v Speaker 9>of a team that is championship caliber, and I think

0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:05.239
<v Speaker 9>trending in the right direction here at the right time

0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:07.560
<v Speaker 9>of the season. And then the obvious curve ball that's

0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:08.759
<v Speaker 9>going to be thrown in here is we're going to

0:38:08.840 --> 0:38:10.920
<v Speaker 9>hit pause for three weeks, so we're going to pick

0:38:10.920 --> 0:38:14.440
<v Speaker 9>the league back up in mid September because of the

0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:17.200
<v Speaker 9>FOEBA World Cup. You're trending in the right direction, but

0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:18.640
<v Speaker 9>it's going to be a whole different storyline.

0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:21.440
<v Speaker 8>I think at the end of September, how teams are looking.

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<v Speaker 3>Then, yeah, I mean seven out of the last nine games, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So what do you think has been the biggest difference

0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:32.839
<v Speaker 3>from the beginning of the season versus the last nine

0:38:32.880 --> 0:38:35.200
<v Speaker 3>games where I mean they've won seven out of the

0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:36.439
<v Speaker 3>last nine. What do you guys think?

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<v Speaker 10>I think it's their acceleration in their quarter court. Offensively,

0:38:40.480 --> 0:38:42.560
<v Speaker 10>it's how quickly they get to their action to the

0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:48.640
<v Speaker 10>second side, understanding rotations. I think they've always tried to

0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 10>play fast and run, and they still continue to do that.

0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:55.239
<v Speaker 10>But I think Aliyah Boston's adjustment to playing the four.

0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:56.840
<v Speaker 10>You know, in the beginning of the season, the or

0:38:56.920 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 10>a lot of conversation about did Indiana have the four

0:38:59.600 --> 0:39:01.880
<v Speaker 10>player that they needed to be able to stretch the floor.

0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:04.759
<v Speaker 10>I look at four players in two ways. One as

0:39:05.200 --> 0:39:08.920
<v Speaker 10>stretch fors which can shoot. The three are hybrid fors,

0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:12.480
<v Speaker 10>which can shoot it and make decisions. Eliah Boston can

0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:14.920
<v Speaker 10>do both of those, and I think her fitness, her

0:39:14.960 --> 0:39:17.200
<v Speaker 10>ability to get it off the glass and go, we

0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:19.279
<v Speaker 10>don't really need an outlet pass. Timpson might be the

0:39:19.320 --> 0:39:21.640
<v Speaker 10>one that might, you know, dribble two or three times,

0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:24.920
<v Speaker 10>but everyone else can initiate the offense and that gets

0:39:24.960 --> 0:39:27.800
<v Speaker 10>you going faster, and the harder you run the floor,

0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:31.440
<v Speaker 10>the quicker you create mismatch opportunities. And the Fever are

0:39:31.440 --> 0:39:34.279
<v Speaker 10>doing that really well, and Dallas will do that well

0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:35.799
<v Speaker 10>tonight is what also.

0:39:36.440 --> 0:39:38.080
<v Speaker 9>She of course sees the game at a higher level

0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:40.400
<v Speaker 9>than I do. But the Fever word to your point

0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:43.160
<v Speaker 9>five and five through ten games. They're sixteen and seven

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:46.560
<v Speaker 9>since and when I look at it, I don't see

0:39:46.640 --> 0:39:49.480
<v Speaker 9>one area that's dramatically improved. But when you look at

0:39:49.480 --> 0:39:51.560
<v Speaker 9>the fever at the beginning of the year, I mean,

0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 9>Kelsey Mitchell has stepped up her game to another worldly level.

0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:57.319
<v Speaker 9>Right now, the backcourt that you're seeing of Caitlin Clark

0:39:57.320 --> 0:39:59.960
<v Speaker 9>and Kelsey Mitchell is historically good. It's, in my opinion,

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:02.239
<v Speaker 9>the best of back court has ever played in the

0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:04.640
<v Speaker 9>history of the league. They were playing good at the

0:40:04.719 --> 0:40:07.439
<v Speaker 9>beginning of the year, really good, all star level good.

0:40:07.440 --> 0:40:11.040
<v Speaker 9>But now they're playing superstar, historic good. The defense at

0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:13.200
<v Speaker 9>the beginning of the year was in the bottom three

0:40:13.320 --> 0:40:16.320
<v Speaker 9>or the bottom four. It's found its way to midpack.

0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:18.719
<v Speaker 9>So I think it's a lot of areas that have

0:40:18.760 --> 0:40:21.239
<v Speaker 9>taken a step or two forward, and all of those

0:40:21.280 --> 0:40:22.080
<v Speaker 9>things have added up.

0:40:22.280 --> 0:40:25.640
<v Speaker 10>You see how excited Pat and I are the team.

0:40:25.719 --> 0:40:27.880
<v Speaker 10>I mean, there's so much good when you look at

0:40:27.880 --> 0:40:30.560
<v Speaker 10>the through a hoops lens and you think about how

0:40:30.640 --> 0:40:34.799
<v Speaker 10>much this team continues to evolve, and Kelsey Mitchell is

0:40:34.920 --> 0:40:38.640
<v Speaker 10>just unreal. I mean, I've never seen a player quicker

0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:40.360
<v Speaker 10>in the women's game with the ball in her hands.

0:40:40.400 --> 0:40:43.000
<v Speaker 10>I'm trying to go and give you a comparison. I

0:40:43.120 --> 0:40:45.040
<v Speaker 10>make the comparison all the time on the air, and

0:40:45.040 --> 0:40:46.839
<v Speaker 10>Pat laughs because he knows what I'm going to say.

0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:51.319
<v Speaker 10>We know each other's comments. You know, Kelsey plays a

0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:52.800
<v Speaker 10>game like a running back. You got to play the

0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:56.360
<v Speaker 10>game low to high. If you're coaching little kids in defense,

0:40:56.840 --> 0:40:59.399
<v Speaker 10>you're not telling them, you know, worried about all these

0:40:59.440 --> 0:41:02.080
<v Speaker 10>boss greens and all this different schematic stuff that you do.

0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:04.560
<v Speaker 10>What you tell him is stay between your man in

0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:07.880
<v Speaker 10>the basket and get your shoulders lower than the person

0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:11.439
<v Speaker 10>you're guarding. Okay, Well, Kelsey Mitchell plays the game low

0:41:11.520 --> 0:41:12.600
<v Speaker 10>in every aspect.

0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:15.200
<v Speaker 1>She has got her shoulder pads over.

0:41:15.000 --> 0:41:18.440
<v Speaker 10>Her thigh pads like she's hitting the offensive line, and

0:41:18.480 --> 0:41:22.000
<v Speaker 10>when she gets to the paint, she powers through and finishes.

0:41:22.080 --> 0:41:27.120
<v Speaker 10>She's got great explosion, she's got quickness. And I always say,

0:41:28.520 --> 0:41:30.200
<v Speaker 10>you know, nobody plays.

0:41:29.920 --> 0:41:30.520
<v Speaker 1>The game like that.

0:41:30.800 --> 0:41:34.000
<v Speaker 10>And there are more players in the league right now

0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:37.279
<v Speaker 10>that can make the defense wrong no matter what you

0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:39.440
<v Speaker 10>throw at them. They have a counter or a solution.

0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:44.040
<v Speaker 10>Indiana has three players like that. Not every team has

0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:45.719
<v Speaker 10>three like that, and that's part of the reason why

0:41:45.800 --> 0:41:47.520
<v Speaker 10>they're so powerful on the offensive end.

0:41:47.719 --> 0:41:50.040
<v Speaker 2>I think with her, and I've always said this about

0:41:50.120 --> 0:41:51.120
<v Speaker 2>left handed players.

0:41:51.360 --> 0:41:52.719
<v Speaker 1>I think that jacks people love.

0:41:53.080 --> 0:41:56.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you can go through the scattering report and say, hey,

0:41:57.160 --> 0:41:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Kelsey Mitchell is left handed. But when you get out

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 2>there and it's the heat of the moment, I just

0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:07.080
<v Speaker 2>think naturally you tend to lean right handed every time.

0:42:07.160 --> 0:42:09.600
<v Speaker 2>I just think the left handers have, especially one with

0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:13.360
<v Speaker 2>that much quickness off the dribble, has a significant advantage

0:42:13.360 --> 0:42:14.120
<v Speaker 2>in that category.

0:42:14.200 --> 0:42:15.799
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you. And here's the other thing.

0:42:15.960 --> 0:42:19.120
<v Speaker 10>It's too movable for uss trying to stop the other

0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:22.319
<v Speaker 10>right like because back in the day you used to

0:42:22.400 --> 0:42:26.240
<v Speaker 10>catch it triple threat and wait for the screen. Okay,

0:42:26.600 --> 0:42:30.479
<v Speaker 10>today we're not doing that. You're already on the move

0:42:30.520 --> 0:42:33.359
<v Speaker 10>when you catch it. So if Kelsey's already got her

0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:36.200
<v Speaker 10>feet going and moving, so when she catches it and

0:42:36.200 --> 0:42:37.840
<v Speaker 10>then you come to close out.

0:42:38.600 --> 0:42:39.239
<v Speaker 1>Forget about it.

0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:41.439
<v Speaker 10>I don't care who it is defensively, how big or tall,

0:42:41.520 --> 0:42:43.560
<v Speaker 10>or how quicker long you are, you're not going to

0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:46.319
<v Speaker 10>stop her. She has a counter and a solution to

0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:47.040
<v Speaker 10>all those.

0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:49.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, and two of the balls on the other side

0:42:49.520 --> 0:42:51.200
<v Speaker 2>of the floor Kayla Clark has.

0:42:51.000 --> 0:42:52.840
<v Speaker 1>It, and she's decision making.

0:42:53.200 --> 0:42:56.320
<v Speaker 2>You've got decisions yourself to make, and Kelsey Mitchell is

0:42:56.320 --> 0:42:58.520
<v Speaker 2>going to take advantage of any late clothes out.

0:42:58.400 --> 0:42:59.040
<v Speaker 1>In the world.

0:42:59.520 --> 0:43:02.839
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it just I don't know what other teams

0:43:02.840 --> 0:43:04.960
<v Speaker 2>are going to be able to do when the Fever

0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:09.440
<v Speaker 2>are working at optimum offensive condition here, because when she

0:43:09.520 --> 0:43:11.960
<v Speaker 2>gets the ball, you get that late close out and

0:43:11.960 --> 0:43:14.279
<v Speaker 2>you're just way too out of control that you can't

0:43:14.320 --> 0:43:16.279
<v Speaker 2>do anything with it anyway. But when you're out of

0:43:16.280 --> 0:43:18.360
<v Speaker 2>control on that close you got no chance.

0:43:18.560 --> 0:43:20.960
<v Speaker 10>Here's the thing for me working with Pat, this is

0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:24.320
<v Speaker 10>why when you have great partners, you know each other's

0:43:24.320 --> 0:43:27.640
<v Speaker 10>skill set. And Pat is so good at historically keeping

0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:31.120
<v Speaker 10>us on track with records and what's coming next in

0:43:31.200 --> 0:43:34.480
<v Speaker 10>the milestone. And so today I was looking at Kelsey's

0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:38.120
<v Speaker 10>threes because she's got ninety seven. Three other times she's

0:43:38.200 --> 0:43:43.000
<v Speaker 10>made one hundred threes. The single season record is held

0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:46.040
<v Speaker 10>by Sabrina Yonescu at New York She's made one hundred

0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:50.840
<v Speaker 10>and twenty eight. So Kelsey Mitchell is on track to

0:43:50.960 --> 0:43:53.160
<v Speaker 10>pass that. And then you talk about when we're talking

0:43:53.160 --> 0:43:55.760
<v Speaker 10>about closeouts, right, we don't even talk about our ability

0:43:55.760 --> 0:43:58.279
<v Speaker 10>to shoot the three. So that's what makes her just

0:43:58.480 --> 0:44:01.400
<v Speaker 10>really unguardable and fun to watch, right, I mean, how

0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:01.960
<v Speaker 10>much fun.

0:44:02.239 --> 0:44:02.919
<v Speaker 1>It's so fun.

0:44:04.080 --> 0:44:07.239
<v Speaker 2>So w Nli, Pat Boiler and Alex Lamantes here we're

0:44:07.239 --> 0:44:09.960
<v Speaker 2>a pivot bar and balcony before the Fever play the

0:44:09.960 --> 0:44:13.960
<v Speaker 2>wings coming up later on tonight. My theory is this,

0:44:14.440 --> 0:44:17.479
<v Speaker 2>and I passed this along to the Pacer fans out there.

0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:20.200
<v Speaker 2>This Fever team reminds me so much Pat of the

0:44:20.239 --> 0:44:24.120
<v Speaker 2>Pacer teams going back a couple of years when their

0:44:24.160 --> 0:44:27.920
<v Speaker 2>best defense was so much of a better pushing the

0:44:27.960 --> 0:44:31.920
<v Speaker 2>pace offense. And everybody wants to say I love to

0:44:31.960 --> 0:44:34.399
<v Speaker 2>play at that pace until they have to play at

0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:35.160
<v Speaker 2>that pace.

0:44:35.040 --> 0:44:35.880
<v Speaker 1>And they can't.

0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:39.120
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's the determination teams have to take

0:44:39.360 --> 0:44:42.000
<v Speaker 2>playing the Fever. They push it off of makes they

0:44:42.040 --> 0:44:43.280
<v Speaker 2>push it off of missus.

0:44:43.440 --> 0:44:45.640
<v Speaker 1>And you may want to play that way, but when you.

0:44:45.560 --> 0:44:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Get out there and you have to play both ins,

0:44:47.760 --> 0:44:49.400
<v Speaker 2>you're maybe not capable of doing it.

0:44:49.480 --> 0:44:50.839
<v Speaker 1>The Fever take advantage of that.

0:44:50.920 --> 0:44:53.719
<v Speaker 9>There are eerie parallels, in my opinion, between the last

0:44:53.800 --> 0:44:57.439
<v Speaker 9>couple of healthy Pacers teams and this Indiana Fever team.

0:44:57.480 --> 0:44:59.520
<v Speaker 9>I mean, first of all, you've got maybe the best

0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:01.759
<v Speaker 9>passer in the world on the NBA side and on

0:45:01.800 --> 0:45:05.680
<v Speaker 9>the WNBA side, the best vision in this city, and

0:45:05.719 --> 0:45:07.759
<v Speaker 9>playing in that building, and their ability to get the

0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:10.320
<v Speaker 9>outlet pass to get the ball ahead. As Debbie's talking about,

0:45:10.440 --> 0:45:12.399
<v Speaker 9>you know, how quickly do you get into your quarter court?

0:45:12.480 --> 0:45:14.640
<v Speaker 8>All of that is very, very similar.

0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:18.200
<v Speaker 9>But also this pace of play and the other thing

0:45:18.239 --> 0:45:21.319
<v Speaker 9>that strikes me, and the Pacers had such success doing this,

0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:23.200
<v Speaker 9>and it's why I can't wait to get to the

0:45:23.239 --> 0:45:25.239
<v Speaker 9>playoffs and I can't wait to hopefully get into a

0:45:25.239 --> 0:45:27.680
<v Speaker 9>longer series. So in the WNBA, Round one is best

0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:29.600
<v Speaker 9>of three, Round two's best of five. If you get

0:45:29.600 --> 0:45:31.960
<v Speaker 9>to the finals, it's best of seven. How often did

0:45:31.960 --> 0:45:35.360
<v Speaker 9>we see the Pacers that where down effect almost became cliche,

0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:37.880
<v Speaker 9>It almost became something that you got tired of hearing

0:45:37.920 --> 0:45:40.200
<v Speaker 9>because so many people talked about it. But as a

0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:43.279
<v Speaker 9>series wore on and as it got longer, they wore

0:45:43.320 --> 0:45:46.400
<v Speaker 9>teams down with their pace. And so to me, I

0:45:46.440 --> 0:45:48.359
<v Speaker 9>look at the playoffs coming up, and by the way,

0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:52.480
<v Speaker 9>things are so compact in the in the WNBA standings

0:45:52.520 --> 0:45:55.279
<v Speaker 9>right now, the fever could be anywhere from two to eight.

0:45:55.360 --> 0:45:58.440
<v Speaker 9>So these games down the stretch are exceedingly important. But

0:45:58.560 --> 0:46:01.440
<v Speaker 9>to me, the first round, if you're looking at it

0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:04.200
<v Speaker 9>from a fever perspective, is almost the scariest. You typically

0:46:04.200 --> 0:46:06.360
<v Speaker 9>think of that being your easiest round, but as you

0:46:06.400 --> 0:46:09.160
<v Speaker 9>get into hopefully round two and hopefully into the finals,

0:46:10.080 --> 0:46:13.200
<v Speaker 9>beating this team four times or beating this team three

0:46:13.239 --> 0:46:16.000
<v Speaker 9>times is going to be extremely difficult. That first round

0:46:16.080 --> 0:46:18.520
<v Speaker 9>series that's best of three, to me is almost the

0:46:18.520 --> 0:46:21.640
<v Speaker 9>scariest one because there's a higher margin for error. But

0:46:21.680 --> 0:46:24.200
<v Speaker 9>when you have Caitlin Clark and Kelsey Mitchell and Leah

0:46:24.200 --> 0:46:27.160
<v Speaker 9>Boston beating that trio three or four times is going

0:46:27.200 --> 0:46:29.160
<v Speaker 9>to be exceedingly difficult that they can get themselves into

0:46:29.200 --> 0:46:29.720
<v Speaker 9>those scenario.

0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:31.400
<v Speaker 10>We do not want to be in the four or

0:46:31.440 --> 0:46:35.879
<v Speaker 10>five game. Sure, no, it cannot be there anywhere, but there.

0:46:36.000 --> 0:46:36.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:46:36.520 --> 0:46:38.920
<v Speaker 2>And I also will allude to the fact that you know,

0:46:39.040 --> 0:46:41.560
<v Speaker 2>taking time off is weird.

0:46:41.680 --> 0:46:46.200
<v Speaker 10>For pace that could be an issue your conditioning, that

0:46:46.719 --> 0:46:47.160
<v Speaker 10>is weird.

0:46:47.239 --> 0:46:49.839
<v Speaker 2>And you mentioned the Pacers. You saw the Knicks win

0:46:49.920 --> 0:46:53.359
<v Speaker 2>a title, an NBA title this year. The Pacers were

0:46:53.400 --> 0:46:56.160
<v Speaker 2>not involved in that. Obviously off their nineteen win season,

0:46:56.440 --> 0:46:59.600
<v Speaker 2>but what do they do? They affected their season by

0:46:59.600 --> 0:47:01.840
<v Speaker 2>a just to what the Pacers had taught them the

0:47:01.880 --> 0:47:05.600
<v Speaker 2>last two years. They fired their coach, brought in Mike Brown.

0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:08.759
<v Speaker 2>He solidified the bench and made sure they had more

0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:12.440
<v Speaker 2>bench support, and they were ready to play teams like

0:47:12.520 --> 0:47:16.240
<v Speaker 2>the Pacers with a higher pace, and they utilized their bench,

0:47:16.520 --> 0:47:18.799
<v Speaker 2>and they didn't wear down. Mike Brown didn't wear down

0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:21.799
<v Speaker 2>that team. By Christmas, they were fresh and ready to

0:47:21.840 --> 0:47:24.640
<v Speaker 2>go in the postseason. And to me, that was all

0:47:24.680 --> 0:47:29.000
<v Speaker 2>aspects that the Pacers taught them in again that season

0:47:29.040 --> 0:47:30.960
<v Speaker 2>in which they were out of it because they were

0:47:30.960 --> 0:47:32.960
<v Speaker 2>compromised by injuries with nineteen wins.

0:47:33.000 --> 0:47:35.520
<v Speaker 9>And I think we've had this conversation on your show before,

0:47:35.560 --> 0:47:38.080
<v Speaker 9>but if you look at Stephanie White coach teams as well,

0:47:38.080 --> 0:47:40.680
<v Speaker 9>this tends to be the trend. The twenty fifteen Indiana

0:47:40.719 --> 0:47:43.560
<v Speaker 9>Fever were a win away from a WNBA championship. They

0:47:43.600 --> 0:47:45.760
<v Speaker 9>nearly had a shocking upset of one of the greatest

0:47:45.800 --> 0:47:49.640
<v Speaker 9>dynasties in WNBA history, the Minnesota Links, who had four Olympians.

0:47:49.760 --> 0:47:53.320
<v Speaker 9>They got to the decisive game five on the shoulders

0:47:53.320 --> 0:47:55.799
<v Speaker 9>of Tamika Catchings and on the shoulders of Stephanie White

0:47:55.800 --> 0:47:57.719
<v Speaker 9>and some other good players. But they were not the

0:47:57.760 --> 0:48:01.000
<v Speaker 9>same level of team as Minnesota was. But the point

0:48:01.040 --> 0:48:04.040
<v Speaker 9>here is that team started three and six and ended

0:48:04.080 --> 0:48:06.520
<v Speaker 9>up in a decisive Game five of the finals. And

0:48:06.520 --> 0:48:09.719
<v Speaker 9>if you look at Stephanie White coached WNBA teams over

0:48:09.760 --> 0:48:13.560
<v Speaker 9>the course of her albeit still fairly young WNBA career,

0:48:14.120 --> 0:48:17.000
<v Speaker 9>the trajectory is always going like this by the end

0:48:17.040 --> 0:48:20.120
<v Speaker 9>of the season, including last year's team. Last year's team

0:48:20.400 --> 0:48:22.920
<v Speaker 9>lost Caitlyn Clark and then it took them, naturally a

0:48:22.920 --> 0:48:24.960
<v Speaker 9>long time to figure out how to win without her,

0:48:25.400 --> 0:48:28.280
<v Speaker 9>but then they're in overtime to go to the WNBA Finals.

0:48:28.280 --> 0:48:31.080
<v Speaker 9>So I think that's one trend line of Stephanie White

0:48:31.120 --> 0:48:32.839
<v Speaker 9>coach teams that you have to give her a ton

0:48:32.840 --> 0:48:35.440
<v Speaker 9>of credit for is they don't always start well, but

0:48:35.520 --> 0:48:37.560
<v Speaker 9>they tend to be playing this level of ball at

0:48:37.560 --> 0:48:40.239
<v Speaker 9>the end of the year. That three weeks off is

0:48:40.680 --> 0:48:42.480
<v Speaker 9>a little scary, I think if you're a Fever fan,

0:48:42.520 --> 0:48:44.799
<v Speaker 9>because they're playing so well. But I was a little

0:48:44.800 --> 0:48:47.479
<v Speaker 9>worried about All Star Break two, and they played great

0:48:47.520 --> 0:48:49.680
<v Speaker 9>going into the All Star Break and played great coming

0:48:49.719 --> 0:48:50.239
<v Speaker 9>out of it too.

0:48:50.560 --> 0:48:52.240
<v Speaker 1>It's layers, It's what I said before.

0:48:52.280 --> 0:48:56.799
<v Speaker 10>It's adding pieces slowly figuring out what you need with

0:48:56.920 --> 0:49:00.160
<v Speaker 10>your personnel, what you're capable of doing, and sticking with

0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:01.880
<v Speaker 10>some of the habits that you know are going to

0:49:01.880 --> 0:49:03.040
<v Speaker 10>be pivotal to be able to win.

0:49:04.040 --> 0:49:07.920
<v Speaker 3>I totally agree to your point about Leah Boston really

0:49:08.000 --> 0:49:11.319
<v Speaker 3>kind of coming into that number four role. I mean,

0:49:12.000 --> 0:49:15.520
<v Speaker 3>from your perspective, what are some of the things that

0:49:15.640 --> 0:49:17.279
<v Speaker 3>some of the key things that you think she had

0:49:17.320 --> 0:49:21.399
<v Speaker 3>to change about her game from shifting into that role.

0:49:21.440 --> 0:49:24.600
<v Speaker 10>What do you think if you look at Eleiah Boston

0:49:24.640 --> 0:49:27.200
<v Speaker 10>from her freshman year at the University of South Carolina

0:49:27.239 --> 0:49:29.560
<v Speaker 10>and Dawn Staley won a championship with her, if you

0:49:29.640 --> 0:49:32.400
<v Speaker 10>look at what she's become since I don't ever remember

0:49:32.400 --> 0:49:34.680
<v Speaker 10>her dribbling the ball up the floor or doing anything

0:49:34.680 --> 0:49:37.279
<v Speaker 10>but reversing it on the top of the floor offensively.

0:49:37.600 --> 0:49:40.440
<v Speaker 10>They would bring her away from contact, diver back, and

0:49:40.880 --> 0:49:45.440
<v Speaker 10>just overpower teams. Now, her fitness is at the best

0:49:45.560 --> 0:49:47.040
<v Speaker 10>if you think about it, this is her fourth year

0:49:47.040 --> 0:49:49.040
<v Speaker 10>in the league, so her fitness is where it needs

0:49:49.080 --> 0:49:51.719
<v Speaker 10>to be to play the pace. She can shoot the three,

0:49:51.880 --> 0:49:55.080
<v Speaker 10>which she couldn't do and didn't do. I mean, she

0:49:55.480 --> 0:49:56.960
<v Speaker 10>just didn't do it in college. I don't know if

0:49:57.000 --> 0:49:59.399
<v Speaker 10>she could or not, she may have taken a few.

0:49:59.440 --> 0:50:01.400
<v Speaker 10>And I was there the game that she took her

0:50:01.480 --> 0:50:05.520
<v Speaker 10>very first three in a college game against Connecticut in Columbia.

0:50:05.560 --> 0:50:06.239
<v Speaker 1>I was calling that.

0:50:06.239 --> 0:50:08.799
<v Speaker 10>Game, so I remember when she did it. But to

0:50:08.920 --> 0:50:12.520
<v Speaker 10>watch her evolve and see how much time she's put

0:50:12.560 --> 0:50:15.920
<v Speaker 10>in to be able to shoot the three, that changes everything.

0:50:15.960 --> 0:50:19.359
<v Speaker 10>Now you remember Caitlin's rookie year, it was a lot

0:50:19.360 --> 0:50:23.239
<v Speaker 10>of middle ball screen, middle third action, okay, because that's

0:50:23.239 --> 0:50:26.239
<v Speaker 10>what Aleiah could do. And then basically she is only

0:50:26.320 --> 0:50:30.239
<v Speaker 10>running free throw line to free throw line, okay. So

0:50:30.640 --> 0:50:34.840
<v Speaker 10>you're asking her now to do a little bit of everything,

0:50:34.920 --> 0:50:37.839
<v Speaker 10>and she has stepped up, and her fitness and her

0:50:37.840 --> 0:50:40.879
<v Speaker 10>conditioning is the first place that I would would say.

0:50:40.880 --> 0:50:43.440
<v Speaker 1>And then her her complete skill set.

0:50:43.680 --> 0:50:46.080
<v Speaker 10>I mean she handles like a guard, She changes pace,

0:50:46.160 --> 0:50:48.440
<v Speaker 10>she slices the floor, She does all the things that

0:50:48.480 --> 0:50:50.759
<v Speaker 10>guards would do up the floor and transition, and for

0:50:50.880 --> 0:50:52.920
<v Speaker 10>us six five women, we just don't have many that

0:50:53.000 --> 0:50:53.440
<v Speaker 10>can do that.

0:50:53.920 --> 0:50:57.080
<v Speaker 2>I just think about high ball screen action and kind

0:50:57.080 --> 0:51:00.400
<v Speaker 2>of in terms of how Halliburton ran that with Miles here,

0:51:01.040 --> 0:51:05.080
<v Speaker 2>but Leah Boston adds much many more layers in this case.

0:51:05.160 --> 0:51:07.879
<v Speaker 2>But the high ball screen action where Kaylen Clark has

0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:13.360
<v Speaker 2>the opportunity to dissect the defense with either her threat

0:51:13.480 --> 0:51:18.440
<v Speaker 2>offensively or her incredible passing. And then when you think

0:51:18.480 --> 0:51:20.759
<v Speaker 2>about Kelsey Mitchell being on the other side, those are

0:51:20.840 --> 0:51:23.240
<v Speaker 2>the late closeouts we're talking about. I mean, you skip

0:51:23.280 --> 0:51:25.319
<v Speaker 2>past it to Kelsey Mitchell and then you've got to

0:51:25.360 --> 0:51:27.640
<v Speaker 2>really late close out with the help defense being out

0:51:27.680 --> 0:51:30.760
<v Speaker 2>of position, and you would think that the other teams

0:51:30.760 --> 0:51:33.520
<v Speaker 2>have no chance. Do we see enough of the high

0:51:33.600 --> 0:51:36.719
<v Speaker 2>ball screen action because it seems like sometimes maybe I

0:51:36.880 --> 0:51:40.120
<v Speaker 2>want a little bit more, But I think maybe I'm

0:51:40.160 --> 0:51:41.840
<v Speaker 2>a little bit selfish in that category.

0:51:42.320 --> 0:51:44.279
<v Speaker 10>I always want a little bit more with shooters in

0:51:44.320 --> 0:51:46.640
<v Speaker 10>the corner, just because I think the way we're shooting

0:51:46.680 --> 0:51:50.160
<v Speaker 10>the basketball right now from three Eleiah Boston leads the league,

0:51:50.200 --> 0:51:54.200
<v Speaker 10>Sophie is second, and Kelsey is fourth, that we have

0:51:54.280 --> 0:51:57.000
<v Speaker 10>three players that are top five in the league and

0:51:57.040 --> 0:51:58.200
<v Speaker 10>shooting the three right now.

0:51:58.280 --> 0:51:59.920
<v Speaker 1>So here's the other action that.

0:51:59.880 --> 0:52:03.279
<v Speaker 10>I think is unguardable besides that, because now, where are

0:52:03.280 --> 0:52:04.960
<v Speaker 10>you gonna help, where's the help gonna come from? How

0:52:05.000 --> 0:52:06.800
<v Speaker 10>are you gonna guard the ball screen? What are you

0:52:06.800 --> 0:52:08.680
<v Speaker 10>gonna do with a Liah she's more of a pop

0:52:08.840 --> 0:52:10.759
<v Speaker 10>or a roll. She's like fifty to fifty now, and

0:52:11.040 --> 0:52:13.279
<v Speaker 10>I think she likes to pop because she can make

0:52:13.320 --> 0:52:17.560
<v Speaker 10>plays on the top of the floor. But when Indiana

0:52:17.680 --> 0:52:21.200
<v Speaker 10>runs the wide pin down action where it's Boston, instead

0:52:21.239 --> 0:52:23.360
<v Speaker 10>of going down the lane line to set the screen,

0:52:23.480 --> 0:52:28.399
<v Speaker 10>they set the pin down wide and Kelsey is gonna

0:52:28.400 --> 0:52:29.359
<v Speaker 10>get to her left hand.

0:52:29.440 --> 0:52:30.960
<v Speaker 1>So if you top block.

0:52:31.040 --> 0:52:33.799
<v Speaker 10>That, which means you sit on top of Kelsey so

0:52:34.200 --> 0:52:37.239
<v Speaker 10>you cannot allow her to use the screen, then she

0:52:37.400 --> 0:52:39.640
<v Speaker 10>ninety cuts you on the baseline and she's too fast.

0:52:39.640 --> 0:52:40.319
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna score.

0:52:40.400 --> 0:52:43.120
<v Speaker 10>And the other side of the floor has three shooters

0:52:43.160 --> 0:52:45.440
<v Speaker 10>on it, so you can't pinch, and we got the

0:52:45.440 --> 0:52:47.480
<v Speaker 10>defense of three second rules, so there's a lot of

0:52:47.520 --> 0:52:51.440
<v Speaker 10>space now if Kelsey, if you let Kelsey use the screen,

0:52:51.760 --> 0:52:53.839
<v Speaker 10>she is going to curl to the nail, and when

0:52:53.880 --> 0:52:55.839
<v Speaker 10>she gets to the nail, she's either gonna going left,

0:52:55.880 --> 0:52:58.040
<v Speaker 10>she's gonna pull them into the jumper, or she's gonna

0:52:58.080 --> 0:53:00.840
<v Speaker 10>hit a Leah over the top for a pick and

0:53:00.920 --> 0:53:04.480
<v Speaker 10>roll action. And we could run that all game, and

0:53:04.960 --> 0:53:06.120
<v Speaker 10>I'm telling you, nobody's going.

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<v Speaker 1>To stop that. You can't stop it. Yeah, No, I

0:53:09.360 --> 0:53:10.120
<v Speaker 1>completely agree.

0:53:10.320 --> 0:53:13.520
<v Speaker 2>I think when kaylink foks at her best, she's dissecting,

0:53:13.880 --> 0:53:16.799
<v Speaker 2>looking for her own, hunting her own I think when

0:53:16.800 --> 0:53:19.840
<v Speaker 2>teams get her, they get her like the third level,

0:53:20.360 --> 0:53:23.520
<v Speaker 2>the third level of decision making. If it's not her

0:53:23.800 --> 0:53:26.480
<v Speaker 2>looking for her own offense or her finding somebody else,

0:53:26.880 --> 0:53:29.200
<v Speaker 2>when she has to stop and then pivot back, I

0:53:29.239 --> 0:53:32.040
<v Speaker 2>think that's when the defense takes the advantage. I love

0:53:32.320 --> 0:53:34.080
<v Speaker 2>the fact that they go at it and try to

0:53:34.120 --> 0:53:37.280
<v Speaker 2>go at it so early offensively, every single possession.

0:53:37.960 --> 0:53:40.440
<v Speaker 10>I mean in the first ten eight to ten seconds

0:53:40.440 --> 0:53:41.360
<v Speaker 10>of the shot clock.

0:53:41.160 --> 0:53:42.520
<v Speaker 1>There's usually a shot going up.

0:53:42.719 --> 0:53:45.160
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, it's fast, and it's hard to keep up with pat.

0:53:45.160 --> 0:53:47.799
<v Speaker 1>It's so much pacial like. It really is pacial like.

0:53:48.000 --> 0:53:48.640
<v Speaker 8>It's amazing.

0:53:49.320 --> 0:53:51.160
<v Speaker 9>The parallels between the two teams are amazing. And the

0:53:51.160 --> 0:53:53.000
<v Speaker 9>other thing I want to say about Aleah Boston is

0:53:53.560 --> 0:53:56.279
<v Speaker 9>there's a level of selflessness to her game. Because of

0:53:56.320 --> 0:53:59.239
<v Speaker 9>how well Kelsey Mitchell and Caitlin Clark can play a

0:53:59.320 --> 0:54:01.040
<v Speaker 9>Leah Boston could go on another team and be a

0:54:01.040 --> 0:54:04.000
<v Speaker 9>twenty point per game score and be the the center,

0:54:04.120 --> 0:54:07.400
<v Speaker 9>focal point and all of that, but her willingness I

0:54:07.440 --> 0:54:10.759
<v Speaker 9>think to at times take a half step back of

0:54:10.800 --> 0:54:15.200
<v Speaker 9>what she's capable of. Because of what Kelsey Mitchell and

0:54:15.280 --> 0:54:19.520
<v Speaker 9>Caitlin Clark are doing, I think needs to be noticed

0:54:19.960 --> 0:54:24.200
<v Speaker 9>and spotlighted as well, because when you have three players

0:54:24.280 --> 0:54:27.279
<v Speaker 9>like this, sometimes you see it work out great the

0:54:27.280 --> 0:54:30.359
<v Speaker 9>Miami Heat. Sometimes you see it work out horribly. The

0:54:30.400 --> 0:54:32.799
<v Speaker 9>recent Phoenix suns is the best example I can think of.

0:54:33.160 --> 0:54:36.360
<v Speaker 9>It's working really well in part because everybody's willing to

0:54:36.400 --> 0:54:39.440
<v Speaker 9>play a specific role, and oftentimes that's a little bit

0:54:39.480 --> 0:54:40.600
<v Speaker 9>less than they're capable of.

0:54:40.640 --> 0:54:41.839
<v Speaker 8>But for the betterment of the team.

0:54:41.920 --> 0:54:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Can you believe the NBA put the Pacers on the

0:54:44.080 --> 0:54:47.880
<v Speaker 2>road and Tyrish Holleverns return. Who did that? It's disappointing

0:54:47.920 --> 0:54:50.719
<v Speaker 2>who did that in New Orleans of all places too?

0:54:50.840 --> 0:54:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, nobody gives two craps. That's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 9>If you could have said no, if you could have said,

0:54:57.280 --> 0:55:01.480
<v Speaker 9>what's what is maybe the least pro file opening night

0:55:01.560 --> 0:55:05.239
<v Speaker 9>you could have picked at New Orleans might be.

0:55:06.160 --> 0:55:09.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, But think about this, the home opener. You're going

0:55:09.360 --> 0:55:12.160
<v Speaker 2>to have Green County up in here with Dusty May

0:55:12.320 --> 0:55:12.719
<v Speaker 2>There you.

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<v Speaker 9>Go, there, you go to They were just waiting for

0:55:14.560 --> 0:55:16.000
<v Speaker 9>your guy to come to the building and let me

0:55:16.080 --> 0:55:16.399
<v Speaker 9>let me.

0:55:16.920 --> 0:55:19.399
<v Speaker 1>Talk about guys. You guys better order more beer because

0:55:21.719 --> 0:55:22.360
<v Speaker 1>home opener.

0:55:22.400 --> 0:55:23.000
<v Speaker 8>Here's the deal.

0:55:23.120 --> 0:55:26.600
<v Speaker 9>That first game that Tyrese Halliburton steps back on this

0:55:26.640 --> 0:55:29.040
<v Speaker 9>floor right across the street, it's going to be special

0:55:29.040 --> 0:55:31.600
<v Speaker 9>and it was going to be an event and a

0:55:31.680 --> 0:55:35.600
<v Speaker 9>moment regardless of if it was game one, game three, whatever.

0:55:35.960 --> 0:55:37.960
<v Speaker 8>So would you like to open it home?

0:55:38.040 --> 0:55:41.040
<v Speaker 9>Of course, But to me, that moment doesn't lose any

0:55:41.160 --> 0:55:42.480
<v Speaker 9>luster just because it's game two.

0:55:42.600 --> 0:55:44.319
<v Speaker 2>So, Pat, what have you decided as far as your

0:55:44.400 --> 0:55:46.439
<v Speaker 2>content provider? Have we decided that yet?

0:55:46.800 --> 0:55:47.160
<v Speaker 5>Hopeful?

0:55:47.200 --> 0:55:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Is that your decision? You know what?

0:55:49.880 --> 0:55:51.439
<v Speaker 8>For some reason, they don't let me in the room.

0:55:51.480 --> 0:55:53.279
<v Speaker 1>I haven't a text that he wanted to see. If

0:55:53.280 --> 0:55:55.360
<v Speaker 1>you can, like give me an inside, but he hasn't.

0:55:55.440 --> 0:55:57.160
<v Speaker 9>For good reason, they don't let me in the room.

0:55:57.239 --> 0:56:01.080
<v Speaker 9>Eddie would probably be a good contact. I am hopeful

0:56:01.080 --> 0:56:04.200
<v Speaker 9>that there will be information to be shared soon, but

0:56:04.440 --> 0:56:06.520
<v Speaker 9>that would be for people that are smarter than me

0:56:06.680 --> 0:56:07.480
<v Speaker 9>and know that.

0:56:07.960 --> 0:56:11.000
<v Speaker 2>These next two years are some of the more impactful

0:56:11.200 --> 0:56:14.160
<v Speaker 2>years that we have ever been around, this Pacer team,

0:56:14.200 --> 0:56:16.799
<v Speaker 2>this organization, these next two years because there's a little

0:56:16.840 --> 0:56:19.560
<v Speaker 2>bit after that, there's a little bit of money, a

0:56:19.600 --> 0:56:22.040
<v Speaker 2>little bit of mystery, but these next two years are

0:56:22.080 --> 0:56:24.720
<v Speaker 2>the ones. So I think everybody's banking on this team

0:56:24.840 --> 0:56:28.920
<v Speaker 2>to be and accomplish ultimately what we had hoped it

0:56:28.960 --> 0:56:30.520
<v Speaker 2>would have done the year before.

0:56:30.320 --> 0:56:31.200
<v Speaker 8>Last, no question.

0:56:31.400 --> 0:56:34.560
<v Speaker 9>And you know, go back quickly to the TV partner concept.

0:56:34.600 --> 0:56:37.320
<v Speaker 9>You know, we've been so fortunate to share with WTHR

0:56:37.440 --> 0:56:40.840
<v Speaker 9>here locally because that has given us a massive outlet

0:56:41.320 --> 0:56:43.360
<v Speaker 9>for the Fever to be on and they are just

0:56:43.520 --> 0:56:46.880
<v Speaker 9>tremendous partners and the Pacers have put games on WTHR

0:56:47.200 --> 0:56:51.759
<v Speaker 9>as well, So that's been a tremendous partnership. And you're

0:56:51.760 --> 0:56:53.919
<v Speaker 9>in a window here, You're in a window with both

0:56:54.000 --> 0:56:57.720
<v Speaker 9>teams at the same time where you say, if things

0:56:57.760 --> 0:57:01.960
<v Speaker 9>break your way, you've got realistic championship hopes. Now on

0:57:02.080 --> 0:57:04.719
<v Speaker 9>the NBA, there's a lot of teams that feel that way,

0:57:04.719 --> 0:57:06.839
<v Speaker 9>and frankly, there's probably more in the WNBA that there's

0:57:06.880 --> 0:57:09.040
<v Speaker 9>ever been as well. I mean, I mean Washington is

0:57:09.040 --> 0:57:10.680
<v Speaker 9>in eighth right now and they are only a couple

0:57:10.800 --> 0:57:13.680
<v Speaker 9>games out of fourth. So both leagues have a lot

0:57:13.719 --> 0:57:16.680
<v Speaker 9>of teams that feel that way. But you've got windows

0:57:16.760 --> 0:57:18.640
<v Speaker 9>right now for both teams where I think they look

0:57:18.680 --> 0:57:21.960
<v Speaker 9>at it, and they say, if we accomplish what we

0:57:22.080 --> 0:57:24.760
<v Speaker 9>think we can accomplish, it means going back to the

0:57:24.840 --> 0:57:27.320
<v Speaker 9>NBA Finals and winning one. It means going to the

0:57:27.920 --> 0:57:31.120
<v Speaker 9>WNBA Finals and winning one. And you don't get those

0:57:31.120 --> 0:57:34.640
<v Speaker 9>windows very often and rarely do they coincide with each

0:57:34.640 --> 0:57:37.439
<v Speaker 9>other from a WNBA and an NBA perspective, and both

0:57:37.480 --> 0:57:39.320
<v Speaker 9>teams will have a lot of work to get there,

0:57:39.320 --> 0:57:41.280
<v Speaker 9>but both teams are firmly in those windows.

0:57:41.360 --> 0:57:44.040
<v Speaker 2>We're trying to get everybody on board here the Fever

0:57:44.080 --> 0:57:47.880
<v Speaker 2>of the Pacers and the Colts, because we need some winning.

0:57:48.400 --> 0:57:50.720
<v Speaker 1>We need some consistency in winning right here.

0:57:50.760 --> 0:57:52.440
<v Speaker 9>You know, I grew up and part of the reason

0:57:52.440 --> 0:57:54.640
<v Speaker 9>I think I found this career is because I grew

0:57:54.720 --> 0:57:57.200
<v Speaker 9>up in the perfect time to be a kid in Indianapolis.

0:57:57.240 --> 0:57:58.360
<v Speaker 8>I'm a nineties kid.

0:57:58.880 --> 0:58:01.560
<v Speaker 9>Pay I had Reggie Miller and the Pacers runs to

0:58:01.600 --> 0:58:04.120
<v Speaker 9>the finals, and the Pacers Nicks and Pacers Bulls. I

0:58:04.160 --> 0:58:06.720
<v Speaker 9>had Peyton Manning and we all know the Colts runs.

0:58:07.040 --> 0:58:10.040
<v Speaker 9>Tamika Catchings comes into town in the early two thousands,

0:58:10.040 --> 0:58:12.960
<v Speaker 9>and the Fever are consistently very very good, and they

0:58:12.960 --> 0:58:15.360
<v Speaker 9>win a championship in twenty twelve, as well. I mean,

0:58:15.400 --> 0:58:17.000
<v Speaker 9>it was the perfect time to be a kid here,

0:58:17.040 --> 0:58:19.560
<v Speaker 9>and that's when you're at your biggest sports fandom. And

0:58:19.600 --> 0:58:22.040
<v Speaker 9>so I always think of, you know, the kids now

0:58:22.120 --> 0:58:24.920
<v Speaker 9>that are that are in the eight to fifteen window,

0:58:25.080 --> 0:58:25.760
<v Speaker 9>and I hope.

0:58:25.640 --> 0:58:28.040
<v Speaker 1>We're getting there. I feel like big ass losers. I think.

0:58:29.960 --> 0:58:33.200
<v Speaker 2>I feel bad about that. But like the last ten years, Jesus,

0:58:33.280 --> 0:58:34.160
<v Speaker 2>the Colts.

0:58:34.440 --> 0:58:38.640
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, well the Pacers wor the Pacers. The Pacers run

0:58:38.760 --> 0:58:39.840
<v Speaker 8>the finals.

0:58:39.880 --> 0:58:43.280
<v Speaker 9>Recently, the Fever had this Caitlin Clark era that has

0:58:43.320 --> 0:58:45.720
<v Speaker 9>brought in just a completely different, you know, level of

0:58:45.760 --> 0:58:47.480
<v Speaker 9>interest to the The.

0:58:47.480 --> 0:58:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Colts have to pick up the slack a little bit here.

0:58:49.800 --> 0:58:51.880
<v Speaker 9>You know, we're saying, I am no Colts expert, but

0:58:51.920 --> 0:58:54.480
<v Speaker 9>I am a Colts fan. So I hope that that continues.

0:58:54.680 --> 0:58:56.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think everybody knows that all this is gonna

0:58:56.600 --> 0:58:57.520
<v Speaker 2>be lumpd a meat bad.

0:58:57.520 --> 0:59:01.000
<v Speaker 9>You're all good, That's what I'm trying to do it least,

0:59:01.040 --> 0:59:03.400
<v Speaker 9>But I'm trying to get them going too, because we

0:59:03.520 --> 0:59:03.840
<v Speaker 9>need that.

0:59:04.000 --> 0:59:06.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, listen, the fans have been here for a while.

0:59:06.760 --> 0:59:08.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're kind of ready to back up what

0:59:08.760 --> 0:59:09.120
<v Speaker 1>you're doing.

0:59:09.160 --> 0:59:10.920
<v Speaker 2>The Pacers have done it and Hopefully they do it

0:59:10.920 --> 0:59:13.560
<v Speaker 2>in the next two years, especially in the feverless season.

0:59:13.360 --> 0:59:15.040
<v Speaker 8>And the Colts were doing it at the start of

0:59:15.160 --> 0:59:15.600
<v Speaker 8>last year.

0:59:15.600 --> 0:59:17.920
<v Speaker 9>I mean, that was really exciting to watch the beginning

0:59:17.960 --> 0:59:21.080
<v Speaker 9>of that, and then injuries happened and some bad luck

0:59:21.120 --> 0:59:21.520
<v Speaker 9>and all of that.

0:59:21.640 --> 0:59:23.920
<v Speaker 8>So hopefully they can. You know, you're talking about another team.

0:59:23.960 --> 0:59:26.320
<v Speaker 9>Hopefully you pick up now where you left off when

0:59:26.360 --> 0:59:27.080
<v Speaker 9>things felt good.

0:59:27.360 --> 0:59:30.040
<v Speaker 2>See in the voice of reasons, Pat Boiling right now exactly.

0:59:30.200 --> 0:59:32.320
<v Speaker 2>That's why he's a great part keeps me out of trouble.

0:59:32.480 --> 0:59:35.520
<v Speaker 2>All right, Do you mind, Debbie Antonelly, Pat Boiling here?

0:59:35.520 --> 0:59:37.680
<v Speaker 2>Do you mind if I ask you about the pregame

0:59:37.720 --> 0:59:38.760
<v Speaker 2>presser on Tuesday?

0:59:39.000 --> 0:59:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Sure them Steph on the other side too, and we'll

0:59:41.320 --> 0:59:43.040
<v Speaker 1>see if we will agree on that coming up next.

0:59:43.160 --> 0:59:46.440
<v Speaker 2>Hey, we're a pivot Bar and balcony. Alex Lamantes, Pat Boiler,

0:59:46.640 --> 0:59:49.040
<v Speaker 2>Wi Antonelli. We got a lot more for you till

0:59:49.080 --> 0:59:51.080
<v Speaker 2>the top of the hour we go. We'd love to

0:59:51.120 --> 0:59:54.160
<v Speaker 2>see you here before the wings and the fever. This

0:59:54.360 --> 0:59:58.080
<v Speaker 2>is your destination. It is pivot Bar and Balcony. We'll

0:59:58.120 --> 1:00:00.720
<v Speaker 2>come back, I'll give something away, We'll hang out and

1:00:00.800 --> 1:00:03.800
<v Speaker 2>talk a little bit more. About hoop and whatever piques

1:00:03.840 --> 1:00:05.920
<v Speaker 2>our interests. Coming up next ninety three to five one

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<v Speaker 2>on seventy five The Fan