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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Best of the Fan morning show

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Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one oh seven five the Fans.

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Speaker 1: You are listening to a fan morning show on Sports

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Speaker 1: Radio ninety three.

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Speaker 2: Five and one seven five. Mark's that a nod to

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Speaker 2: James Vanderbeek. I'm gonna say it is. Yeah, lost him

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Speaker 2: to cancer. Yesterday. I was but my wife out quite

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Speaker 2: a bit. I was distressing to see that as well.

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Speaker 2: So this morning, yeah, a little tribute to him this morning, Kevin,

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Speaker 2: I was on social media last night. I sent you

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Speaker 2: something because I thought you'd appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: We think of great legacy basketball programs in the United

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Speaker 3: States of America, and I know things change all the time,

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Speaker 3: that's the nature of sports. We've seen the dramatic changes

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Speaker 3: in the last couple of years or whatever. But could

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Speaker 3: you have imagined even ten years ago going to a

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Speaker 3: Syracuse Orange game at the Dome up there in western

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Speaker 3: New York and at tip off seeing the place maybe

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Speaker 3: fifteen percent full. There was a video going around last

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Speaker 3: night of the game just before tip and that's what

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Speaker 3: it looked like.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you think about the Behim years, and you know,

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Speaker 5: even if you take out the national championship team. They

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Speaker 5: still had, you know, great, great teams around that, and honestly,

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Speaker 5: you know, part of me kind of longs for the

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Speaker 5: old Big East. You know, there's part of me that

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Speaker 5: still would love to see you know, those teams back

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Speaker 5: in the Big East. You know, Syracuse is playing who

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Speaker 5: they play last night?

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Speaker 4: Cal?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, boy, nothing says acc basketball like a Wednesday night

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Speaker 5: game between Cal and Syracuse. I mean, like, what are

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Speaker 5: we doing? Stanford's playing Boston College last night?

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Speaker 2: It's there's nothing there.

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Speaker 5: Names at SMU earlier this week, It's like, you know,

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Speaker 5: what are we doing there? So you still like I have.

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Speaker 6: To get a map out most of the time to

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Speaker 6: figure out. Okay, these conferences don't really exist anymore.

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Speaker 5: Say what, Matt Taylor, You know he's doing that Indiana

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Speaker 5: Sports trivia. If he wanted to broaden it to the

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Speaker 5: US and he did some geography on conference realignment, he

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Speaker 5: could stump some people. He really could. Trying to peg

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Speaker 5: exactly what again?

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Speaker 6: Hilarious dat Rutgers East Coast UCLA US here.

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Speaker 2: And that was one of the first dominoes to follow.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, many years ago, spain of Rutgers Big ten, I

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Speaker 5: did see Michigan survived last night. Northwestern had them down

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Speaker 5: decent margin there and that could have flipped the Big

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Speaker 5: Ten up a little bit. I think that would have.

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Speaker 5: Again Michigan came back to win. But right now you've

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Speaker 5: got those four teams with three losses, Perdue being one

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Speaker 5: of them in the Big Ten conference, but Michigan still

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Speaker 5: with just one loss so far. Perdue. We'll get the

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Speaker 5: next week inside of Mackie. So Purdue's week. Next week

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Speaker 5: they got again Iowa coming up on Saturday, but the

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Speaker 5: next week they've got Michigan and Indiana inside of mack.

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Speaker 3: H So that's what was going on outside of our

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Speaker 2: A little bit more on the Pacers.

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Speaker 3: If you're just joining us this morning on your way

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Speaker 3: to work, thanks for tuning us in. As always, we

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Speaker 3: appreciate that more than you can even imagine. Indiana Pacers

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Speaker 3: last night sat Pascal Siakam. They're on the road to

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Speaker 3: take on the Brooklyn Nets. They sat Pascal Siakam, Andrew Nemhart,

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Speaker 3: Aaron Nesmith, TJ. McConnell Ofvicha Zubats. They were down double

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Speaker 3: digits for most of the first half, started to paddle

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Speaker 3: their way back and messed around and won a basketball

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Speaker 2: James Boyd, you.

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Speaker 6: Should be very happy you want to go out there.

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Speaker 2: I'm fine once the game starts. I want the guys

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Speaker 2: out there to win. I'm okay with that. It's to me.

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Speaker 2: The conversation now is what's the what's the best way

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Speaker 2: to tank?

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Speaker 3: Like at least the guys that the Pacers put out

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Speaker 3: there played their butts off and tried to win last night.

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Speaker 2: He can't get mad at them. It's what they do.

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Speaker 3: That's why if you ever put it, if you ever

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Speaker 3: put tanking in the hands of the players, that won't work.

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Speaker 3: Because players go out there, they want to win, they

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Speaker 6: As I say at Cam Jones, look at the rosters saying,

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Speaker 6: Darren Peterson, why do you need him when you got me?

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Speaker 5: It is kind of crazy. I was thinking about this

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Speaker 5: watching the game last night. What should the Pacers do

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Speaker 5: poll yesterday, what ninety percent of our audience wants to

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Speaker 5: see the Pacers tank or I don't know want is

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Speaker 5: the right word, but understands why they would want to

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Speaker 5: the top four pick. Wasn't last night? Didn't they do that?

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Speaker 5: Like they set the guys unlike the next game. You know,

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Speaker 5: we've had two back to back wins that we've talked

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Speaker 5: about here. The next game they played the guys, and

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Speaker 5: they played the guys late. We've seen Utah, for example,

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Speaker 5: some of their guys, Jaron Jackson Junior. But then when

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Speaker 5: the fourth quarter gets around, they say, no, no, no,

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Speaker 5: you're gonna pass out some gatorade. The Pacers against the Knicks,

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Speaker 5: they played the dudes. But last night they I mean, Jeff,

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Speaker 5: you want to get technical. They sat Quinton Jackson late

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Speaker 5: Pacers personnel last night, did Jaris Walker? Was he taking

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Speaker 5: big shots late in the game last night?

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Speaker 5: I mean Jarfs Walker and Quintin Jackson are whatever their

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Speaker 5: two best players, best guards. I don't even know how

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Speaker 5: else you can do. The next game is different. The

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Speaker 5: next game they play their dudes. Last night they didn't.

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Speaker 5: You just have to live with your the consequences. And

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Speaker 5: Cam Jones looked like he was going to help you

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Speaker 5: out there for a minute, and then he bangs home

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Speaker 6: Texted Kevin Pritchard and to take that.

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Speaker 3: Like I said before, there's your second round draft pick

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Speaker 3: right there, camera on Kevin Pritchard. Are we talking enough though?

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Speaker 3: About Quintin Jackson's dunk? That thing was nasty last night.

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Speaker 5: He's a freak athlete, Honestly.

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Speaker 6: When I'll see guys like him do that, it just

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Speaker 5: I kind of like Quinn Jackson. I don't I don't

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Speaker 6: I kind of think he's an NBA player, you know,

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Speaker 6: And now I'll say that, duh, he's an EBA players play.

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Speaker 6: He just played a game last night. Well, what I

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Speaker 5: I don't say. I didn't say that.

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Speaker 6: I think he can be an NBA player, meaning he

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Speaker 5: In the NBA. Yeah, if you were going to trust

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Speaker 5: him in like a ten minute Benrol, I think he's

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Speaker 5: too volatile to trust him. Frankly, like like, let's compare

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Speaker 5: you know what you're in a get. Quentin Jackson got

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Speaker 5: a little lance in him. You know, there's just a

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Speaker 5: little craziness switch again, the highs are high, trust me.

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Speaker 5: Look at James Boyd's dating history. Some of the good

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Speaker 5: crazy can be starting here on this Thursday morning, can

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Speaker 3: But Mark sat up again, got a little alert there

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Speaker 5: Hey, they were all great women. No, geez, that's the

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Speaker 5: most politically correct thing you've ever said on the show.

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Speaker 6: Hey, you wouldn't date anybody, be canceled here on the show.

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Speaker 2: You wouldn't date anybody but a great woman, right, Jess

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Speaker 2: Jeff Gosh.

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Speaker 5: I'll leave it at that, James, did we see late

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Speaker 5: last night? I forget who maybe had the initial reporting,

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Speaker 5: I did see this.

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Speaker 6: I believe he is the now former Arkansaw running back coach.

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Speaker 6: And this was from Matt Zennitts. He actually gets a

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Speaker 6: so he reported that Arkansaw defensive line coach. I'm sorry, Mary,

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Speaker 6: and Hobby is going to be the new Colts defensive

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Speaker 6: line coach and mayor and Hobby spent several years with

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Obviously the connection with Louianna Rumo makes sense. A

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Speaker 5: as James said, joined the Arkansas staff. Looked like he

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Speaker 5: it was with Ana Rumo for several seasons before that.

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Speaker 5: obviously you see this a lot you saw with Gus Bradley.

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Speaker 5: a lot. To me, the Colts have had a lot

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Speaker 5: it's more personnel than anything. They've tried a bunch of

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Speaker 5: Coach Hobby should probably expect some of that.

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Speaker 2: You know, I would like to see.

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Speaker 3: I've enjoyed the weekly updates that Tygrese Haliburton gives on

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Speaker 3: his injured achilles.

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Speaker 2: Can we get anything like that from Daniel Jones?

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Speaker 3: Just this is how I'm progressing, this is what I'm doing,

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Speaker 3: this is how I'm feeling.

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Speaker 2: Do we get anything like that? Do you think at

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Speaker 2: all before camp next August?

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Speaker 5: Zero chance? Think Daniel Jones is doing that. I don't

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Speaker 5: think Daniel Jones is logging too.

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Speaker 6: His Twitter for sure, and if he ever had one,

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Speaker 6: I believe his Twitter if you go to it right now,

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Speaker 6: I want to say he's still in the Giants uniform,

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Speaker 6: had a couple teams since then. And then his Instagram.

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Speaker 6: I believe he posts something at the end of the

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Speaker 6: it's kind of like Tyler Warre where they only post

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Speaker 6: stuff where they get paid to post it, which I respect.

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Speaker 8: Daniel Jones is probably still in MySpace in four square.

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Speaker 2: It's okay though he knows Tom it's so good.

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Speaker 5: That's a lot closer to Fernando Mendos on LinkedIn than

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Speaker 5: he is. Ziar Franklin on the podcast World.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, I was just curious and as you guys were

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Speaker 2: the offseason. How does he heal, how does he progress,

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Speaker 6: So I personally wouldn't mind the quote unquote risk of

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Speaker 5: Probably? Will he get that?

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Speaker 2: I would think a diminished Trey Hendrickson would be better

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Speaker 5: And that's my point.

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Speaker 3: Well, Simoney, Warden need to tell the cults what he

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Speaker 2: Does that matter so much?

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Speaker 5: Adapha Oway is a guy that I like. Was in

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Speaker 8: Yeah, looking like the Wednesday of the Combine.

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Speaker 5: When Dane came out with his top hundred guys for

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Speaker 5: rushers in the top forty. That is a very high

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Speaker 5: Now the unfortunate nature two that meeting and the Colts

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Speaker 5: just because you swung last year doesn't mean that you

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Speaker 5: pass rush class Jeff. To your point, Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 5: that's I think one of the combine questions that I

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Speaker 5: I need some time, but you know, I will definitely

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Speaker 5: inform the Colts, And typically when you have these debates

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Speaker 5: figure that out. You'd give the guy a month and

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Speaker 5: you know, franchise tag window opens on Tuesday. You know,

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Speaker 5: we're less than a month away from free agency in

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Speaker 5: the next few weeks. If he hasn't already, Javarious Award

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Speaker 5: does need to inform the Colts his plans for twenty

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and again you're doing it in the context of

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Speaker 9: Right.

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Speaker 3: We saw what Jacksonville did this year, we see what

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Speaker 3: but you better keep up. And the Colts first half

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, and boy, it'll be a very interesting offseason.

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Speaker 3: Well, we've got it covered for you, and we're going

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Speaker 3: to talk to Joel a Ericson of The Indie Star

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Speaker 3: they wait until it's hard to believe. Kevin, we talked

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Speaker 3: Valentine's Day is coming up.

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Speaker 2: You guys got on Valentine's Day? Mark you good? You

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Speaker 8: I don't really celebrated, so I'm all, good.

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Speaker 2: Oh, good for you.

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Speaker 5: How'd you get out of that one?

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Speaker 8: Well, because of it's a fake holiday. I mean, let's

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Speaker 8: We don't need a day to say it. We can

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Speaker 6: Some more dating advice. I have never heard a man

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Speaker 6: talk about Valentine's He liked this. Well, maybe just because

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Speaker 5: Last night I looked at Maddie and said, we're not

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Speaker 5: two days after Valentine's Day. She goes, no, I said,

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we'll go out to the next dinner or something

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Speaker 5: But right I said, I love you. Have I ever

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Speaker 5: Nine I you guys in the combine? How about that?

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Speaker 5: What a world we live in? Nine IU football players,

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Speaker 5: six from South bend All offense. You got several former

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Speaker 5: Boilers in the game. One guy, I'm curious talking to

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Speaker 5: Can you imagine we get a Westfield and a Lawrence

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Speaker 5: Indiana high school football players have been first round picks.

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Speaker 6: That's a question for Greg Rakestraw, Mike Chappele.

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Speaker 5: Oh, that's that's so Rake. That's all right, eight o'clock tomorrow, Greg,

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Speaker 5: Greg Straw, he'll have the answer by then. You think

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Speaker 5: carloftis you know sometimes the the the Jalen Smith group

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Speaker 6: A ya given the amount of talent that is in

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Speaker 3: I was looking at the list last night, and we

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Speaker 3: Dame is Jeremiah Love Like. He's probably top ten to

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Speaker 3: fifteen pick, don't you think at some point.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he was a beast.

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Speaker 2: And then I didn't. Honestly, I'll be honest with you.

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Speaker 2: I know he's good, but his Jadarian Price is how

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I think I think a lot of guys have him

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Speaker 5: just to him. But man, Jeff, you bring up those names.

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Speaker 5: It just makes me sad.

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Speaker 3: Frankly, Well, you're just ready to run it back, aren't you.

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Speaker 5: Well you can.

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Speaker 3: You can know I'm talking about You're You're you're excited

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Speaker 2: You're telling me that they're they're good to go again

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Speaker 5: I told you Ryan Bowen booked the.

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Speaker 2: Hotel room, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: They don't ever go in Vegas and stayed in a

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Speaker 5: Probably Vegas, as long as there's no limp bake and preach,

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Speaker 5: Mark Dyton, preach.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you this as a as a guy who

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Speaker 2: A single guy. When I was in Salt Lake City.

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Speaker 4: Back.

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Speaker 8: Close your ears.

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Speaker 3: I met Christine at a blackjack table in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Are you sure.

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Speaker 5: You made that? You've made the best bet of your life?

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Speaker 3: That's probably the most exciting thing about that story. Though

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Speaker 2: A long time. So it was good.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Ricker pulled out that big old stack of cash.

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Speaker 2: Woh Man, especially world, why especially over especially back to

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Speaker 2: rh you like that down the street, did not did

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Speaker 3: But I will tell you this. My point was, we

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Speaker 5: Oh maybe you're not the same. Maybe probably the better

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Speaker 5: I think if you want to be much more corporate,

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Speaker 5: experience in Vegas.

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Speaker 2: I think you can probably do that anywhere though.

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Speaker 5: Okay, their fastball still throwing ninety eight year fastball.

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Speaker 4: Probably not.

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Speaker 5: It's always been daddy, no dadd?

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Speaker 8: WHOA where murder come from? A?

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Speaker 2: When did that come from?

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Speaker 6: I do remember you saying this was that real? That

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Speaker 6: is definitely real?

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Speaker 5: No daddy, no dad? And that's from the Vegas trip,

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Speaker 5: Martin Man. I just want to be accurate.

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Speaker 3: That sounds like the very end of a story that

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Speaker 3: I may have been telling you what to.

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Speaker 5: Me, boy man, journalistic integrity. I just want to make

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Speaker 5: sure where we're on it family show here.

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Speaker 3: Mark Dyton is the orchestrator of all that stuff, just

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Speaker 3: so you know, and he's Mark proud of it as well.

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Speaker 2: That's what he's listening for.

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Speaker 6: He you knows what the biddies are buried.

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Speaker 3: All right, quick time out. We've got great guests for

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Speaker 3: you coming up throughout the day. Joeli Erickson from The

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Speaker 3: Indie Star is going to talk Coltston. We'll talk to

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Speaker 3: Scott An during the break. That's right, may have to

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Speaker 3: go get a tall drink of water in a second

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Speaker 3: as we continue in ninety three five head one oh

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Speaker 3: seven five.

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Speaker 2: Kevin, I'll get you excited here. No daddy, No daddy.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Welcome into the Fan Morning Show along Kevin Bowen,

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Speaker 3: James Boyd, Mark Dyke Did I'm Jeff Rickard. We've been

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Speaker 3: talking a lot about tanking in the NBA this morning,

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Speaker 3: but now we go the other way. How do you

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Speaker 3: build your team up as quickly as possible to get

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Speaker 3: good in the offseason. We're talking about the Indianapolis Colts,

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Speaker 3: and nobody I can think of better qualified to join

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Speaker 3: us and talk about this and join our discussion than

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Speaker 3: our next guest, Joel A. Ericson of the Indie Starr.

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Speaker 3: He joins us on the pay Less Lookers Hotline. Good morning,

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Speaker 3: mister Erics, and I probably would imagine you've noticed that

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Speaker 3: pictures and catchers have reported as well.

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Speaker 9: I have noticed the pictures and catchers have reported. Pat

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Speaker 9: Murphy spoke yesterday, and he spoke before I got to

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Speaker 9: be honest, though, I'm a little I'm a little thrown

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Speaker 9: off by something I heard on a TV broadcast watching

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Speaker 9: basketball last night. I flipped over to them. I flipped

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Speaker 9: over for the Missouri Texas A and M game. Big

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Speaker 9: win for my Tigers. They needed that one. After the

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Speaker 9: Pacers game was done and the color analyst talk, the

484
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Speaker 9: play by play guy said something about Reggie Miller drawing files,

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Speaker 9: and the color analyst said, Reggie's before my time, and

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Speaker 9: I'm I'm having an existential crisis this morning.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the club, Joel. I thought you and I

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Speaker 2: can talk.

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Speaker 5: I thought you're having a crisis for being asked to

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Speaker 5: cover that Pacers game last night.

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Speaker 2: That wasn't that was.

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Speaker 5: That was a little bit of a It was a

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Speaker 5: little bit.

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Speaker 9: Of a crisis. I had to brush up on my

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Speaker 9: on my two AA guys real fast before that one started.

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Speaker 9: But man, I'm not ready for for Reggie Miller being

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Speaker 9: before anybody's time. I'm not.

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Speaker 5: Jason Richardson's son is in the dunk contest Saturday night, Joel,

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Speaker 5: if you want to continue down this path, and Tiger

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Speaker 5: Woods is committed, just committed to college.

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Speaker 6: Real quick here, I'll jump in, Joel. So at my

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Speaker 6: barber shop that I go to, they have a poster

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Speaker 6: in one of the corners and it's a Reggie Miller

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Speaker 6: and has all his rankings of like where he was

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Speaker 6: in three point made shots and free throw percentage and

506
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Speaker 6: all these things. And the posters old because it says

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Speaker 6: he's still first in three pointers and I want to

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Speaker 6: say he might be like six or seventh now. And

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Speaker 6: every time I look at it, I'm like, Wow, the

510
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Speaker 6: world is changing, Like this is nothing everything that was

511
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Speaker 6: right with the world. I mean, Reggie Miller.

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Speaker 5: You think of him.

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Speaker 6: He was a three point goat for so long, and

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Speaker 6: now I think James Hard has any more threes than him,

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Speaker 6: Buddy Healed, I think I'm be on pace to pass him.

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Speaker 5: That's crazy. Yeah, but that's reality.

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Speaker 9: Changing, the changing game, and the numbers, the changing game.

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Speaker 9: The numbers always get me. But but but but somebody

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Speaker 9: who's on TV talking about basketball. Granted it's King, it's

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Speaker 9: King Lacleur. He's only twenty nine, Like I had to

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Speaker 9: look all.

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Speaker 2: This up after it, but.

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Speaker 9: Not not knowing Reggie Miller at all. James James, you

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Speaker 9: know Reggie Miller, You're not You're not that much older

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Speaker 9: than twenty nine.

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Speaker 6: Hey, But in fairness, I didn't watch him live verych

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Speaker 6: not just a basketball guru. So I'll leave it at

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Speaker 6: that to pivot to more cults related things, which is

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Speaker 6: what you cover on a more day to day basis.

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Speaker 6: Joel or a few weeks out from the NFL Draft combine,

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Speaker 6: if I had to tell you, Okay, your first pick

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Speaker 6: this year is not in the first round, second round,

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Speaker 6: it's number forty seven, I believe right now, what position

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Speaker 6: are you taking with that pick?

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Speaker 9: If I'm going straight need, you know with this Colts team,

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Speaker 9: it's got to be a defensive end, I think. But

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Speaker 9: the problem is forty seven. I think Colts fans now

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Speaker 9: know after the last nine years or so that getting

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Speaker 9: defensive ends in the second round doesn't always pan out

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Speaker 9: the way you'd like ins of in terms of that stuff.

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Speaker 9: So I don't think you can go necessarily straight need

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Speaker 9: with it. You think you'd obviously go whoever you think

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Speaker 9: is the best player available, but you want that player.

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Speaker 5: To be somewhere on defense.

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Speaker 9: You want that player to be somewhere on defense. But

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Speaker 9: it's not necessarily a type of spot where you normally think, okay,

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Speaker 9: this is where I get a difference making defensive end.

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Speaker 9: Those picks usually come from one to a about twelve

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Speaker 9: or so.

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Speaker 2: Joel A.

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Speaker 5: Erickson from the Star with us here talking a little Colts,

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Speaker 5: a little bit of everything. I guess on this Wednesday

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Speaker 5: or Thursday morning, I should say, any chance you think

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Speaker 5: franchise tag for Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 9: I think what's more likely is that Jones signs in

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Speaker 9: Indy and then maybe we see a franchise tag on

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Speaker 9: Alec Pierce. It just seemed when we left and everything

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Speaker 9: we've heard since then, but really, really that Chris Ballard

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Speaker 9: press conference kind of confirmed what we've been hearing all along,

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Speaker 9: was that this team was all in on Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 9: I think they'll they'll kind of do whatever it takes

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Speaker 9: to make sure that he doesn't get to the market. So,

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Speaker 9: you know, without without having been to the Combine yet

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Speaker 9: gotten a chance to talk to a bunch of people,

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Speaker 9: I would guess that that's getting him in the fold

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Speaker 9: early is priority ones that you can then open your

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Speaker 9: options for what you do with peers.

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Speaker 2: Joli ericson joining us from the Indie Star. We're talking

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Speaker 2: Colts football. They announced the list of Combine invitees yesterday,

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Speaker 2: a ton of Indiana and some Notre Dame guys.

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Speaker 7: On.

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Speaker 2: There anybody from Indiana that you could see fitting with

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Speaker 2: the Indianapolis Colts down the line in the draft.

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Speaker 7: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 9: Some of it, some of those guys. It depends on, uh,

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Speaker 9: in terms of like do the Colts make a move

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Speaker 9: away from a veteran you know, D'Angelo pond didn't like

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Speaker 9: the biggest guy, but he does feel like the kind

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Speaker 9: of guy that you could use as a nickel in

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Speaker 9: the NFL and use very very well and devastatingly as

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Speaker 9: a nickel if they were going to move away from

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Speaker 9: you know, if they moved away from Michael Pittman, do

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Speaker 9: you do you look at one of the wide receivers

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Speaker 9: there as a replacement for that. I think those guys

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Speaker 9: were the ones that jumped to mind first in terms

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Speaker 9: of in terms of Indiana players coming to coming to

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Speaker 9: the Colts that it's usually you think of in the NFL.

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Speaker 9: You don't think of the local guy ending up though, uh,

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Speaker 9: in the in the team with the team next door,

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Speaker 9: because it just doesn't seem to work out like that.

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Speaker 2: That's just when was the last time, like ever, Indiana's

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Speaker 2: got guys, Like the SEC teams have guys and they're

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Speaker 2: legitimate guys, and there are many of them.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I know normally when you go to the combine,

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Speaker 9: you're talking about you know one or yeah, I see

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Speaker 9: I see Zachksterman on the combine floor like one day.

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Speaker 9: But it seems like those guys are gonna have to

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Speaker 9: be up here doing quite a bit more. I will

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Speaker 9: say this was a big storyline when I lived in

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Speaker 9: when I covered the Saints and I lived in New

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Speaker 9: Orleans because LSU that you know, the Saints row, they

603
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Speaker 9: were always getting killed for not drafting LSU guys, and

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Speaker 9: their point was it was always, well, a lot of

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Speaker 9: times ls you guys are gone before we have a

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Speaker 9: chance to pick. So that, uh, that that could come

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Speaker 9: into play again this this April.

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Speaker 5: Joe, You're smart, dude. You got any good tanking correction

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Speaker 5: ideas for the NBA?

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Speaker 9: I uh I, I don't know if I have a

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Speaker 9: good one in terms of because one of the other

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Speaker 9: things that that stuck out to me is that the

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Speaker 9: you have even like that. I watched Spurs Thunder recently,

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Speaker 9: I watched Spurs Lakers where they those teams are in

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Speaker 9: the playoffs and they're not playing anybody on a given night,

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Speaker 9: and I don't know, if that's going on, how you

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Speaker 9: keep you know, a team like the Pacers from not

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Speaker 9: playing anybody, or a team like the Nets from not

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Speaker 9: playing their starters. It it seems like the lottery should

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Speaker 9: take some of that out. But then there's also the

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Speaker 9: piece of it where you know, I've been seeing the

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Speaker 9: stats about, you know, the team that with the worst

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Speaker 9: record hasn't gotten the number one pick in like five

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Speaker 9: years or something like that, and I don't know it is.

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Speaker 4: The the the one.

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Speaker 9: I saw was what I saw somebody come up with

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Speaker 9: was do it in reverse order. The team with the

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Speaker 9: the best record of those teams gets a gets the

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Speaker 9: first pick. But that's not that's not fair either, because

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Speaker 9: then you get teams that maybe had like one injury

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Speaker 9: and should be a playoff team getting the first pick.

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Speaker 6: I mean, that would literally probably be the Pacers right now,

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Speaker 6: if I'm being honest, if tires Halliburn's healthy there and

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Speaker 6: their record isn't what it is. So it's very interesting concept,

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Speaker 6: to say the least. Joel and I enjoyed seeing some

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Speaker 6: of your tweets and updates. I did see that you

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Speaker 6: had a chance to type up some of the comments

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Speaker 6: from Chad Ken and as well about the addition of

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Speaker 6: if eats a zubats. So you got the full I

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Speaker 6: feel like experience, even though you're probably sitting at home,

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Speaker 6: but you got a little news in there. You got

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Speaker 6: a close game there. You know how it feel it

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Speaker 6: be covering. I guess a later, a later start in

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Speaker 6: the middle of the week. I gave it up, brother,

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Speaker 6: and I don't know if I ever go back.

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Speaker 9: I I I like moonlight. I got on Pacers whatever,

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Speaker 9: Dustin whenever Dustin needs a help. I mean you, James,

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Speaker 9: you know I'm not I'm not as big an NBA

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Speaker 9: guy as you are, but I am a I am

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Speaker 9: an NBA guy. It's fun. It's fun to jump on

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Speaker 9: there and uh and get get a good look at

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Speaker 9: the pacers.

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Speaker 2: I thought what.

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Speaker 9: Beganon said about knowing that the championship window closed sometimes

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Speaker 9: closes quicker than you expect was a really interesting thing.

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Speaker 9: And that's one of those things that really anything I write.

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Speaker 9: I kind of wonder if Dustin would go, oh, you know,

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Speaker 9: that's old news. But I thought that was an interesting

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Speaker 9: quote in terms of I thought that was an interesting

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Speaker 9: quote in terms of where the pacers thinking is that

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Speaker 9: you know, you you've you can't expect this this core

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Speaker 9: to be in championship contention forever, just because that's just

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Speaker 9: not how it always works out in the NBA.

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Speaker 6: Well, I got one more before we let you go,

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Speaker 6: Joel so and I got to see in his tweet,

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Speaker 6: so I think you put out there, Hey, I'm filling

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Speaker 6: in for Dustin. He's resting the second night of a

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Speaker 6: back to back, I lost some of the stars of

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Speaker 6: the Pacers. And then I believe Scott Horner chimed in

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Speaker 6: and was like, well, it's Dustin tanking.

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Speaker 5: So have you got any.

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Speaker 6: Information on that? So we'll be able to the lead

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Speaker 6: be investigating Dustin to pirek uh.

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Speaker 9: Well, here's here's the thing, though, Dustin Dustin. You know

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Speaker 9: in this in this scenario, Dustin's a player. So really

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Speaker 9: it's that newle that I think to bed.

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Speaker 6: Right Editor Andy Starr, Okay, all right, you know I

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Speaker 6: always got a little smoke for for nat out there,

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Speaker 6: the former boss.

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Speaker 9: Does that have to be investigated for taking for putting

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Speaker 9: a football.

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Speaker 5: Guy out there on a basketball night?

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Speaker 3: That's the real question, Ah, The real question is your

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Speaker 3: your Brewers or Mark's Cubs are our Reds.

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Speaker 2: At the end of the year. That's the question.

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Speaker 5: Don't get them started.

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Speaker 9: It's it's a good one.

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Speaker 5: It's a good one. Where's where's the I is?

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Speaker 9: How's how's Mark Dykeden feeling? Is Mark Dykeden feeling?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 2: He was calling for championship twenty minutes ago. I'm feeling Condon.

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Speaker 8: I mean, the addition of Alex Bregman made me feel better.

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Speaker 8: I think they'll get a solid rotation with the once

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Speaker 8: Justin Steele fully returns and all that stuff. So I'm

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Speaker 8: feeling pretty good.

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Speaker 9: Hm, the uh and the Reds guys, The Reds guys,

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Speaker 9: what do we got? We were thinking on the red Kevin.

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Speaker 3: Kevin and I were talking this is the year for

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Speaker 3: World Series, building off that that playoff push and surprise

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Speaker 3: appearance in the postseason like.

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Speaker 5: Now, but here come the Red Legs. How were you

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Speaker 5: murmuring back there?

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Speaker 8: You were saying they're going to win it?

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Speaker 5: All right? Yeah, I know, I don't think I minced words.

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Speaker 8: Water smells like vodka if you ask me.

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Speaker 3: All right, So I saw one projection from a bunch

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Speaker 3: of baseball analysts that said Cubs eighty eight wins, Brewers

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Speaker 3: eighty seven, Cubs are in the red seventy eighty three,

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Speaker 3: So eighty eight, eighty seven, eighty three, that's what projection

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Speaker 3: was that that came from the USA today, your employer.

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Speaker 9: Oh, the projection system is usually hate Milwaukee and it makes.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is a five person panel, so oh okay.

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Speaker 9: Well, so the reason I saw this the other day

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Speaker 9: I just this will this will give you guys a

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Speaker 9: window into my how how bad of a nerd I am?

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Speaker 9: I saw from Pakoda, which obviously does some good projecting

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Speaker 9: for baseball, they were saying that teams that the small

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Speaker 9: market teams that use younger players, it's harder to project

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Speaker 9: them because those projections are based on track record essentially,

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Speaker 9: and guys who are younger, who are just called up

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Speaker 9: don't have a track record in the major So it's

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Speaker 9: much easier to project a team like the Phillies than

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Speaker 9: it is a team like the Brewers, because I think

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Speaker 9: the CODA has them at eighty one wins or something

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Speaker 9: like that. But that's that's that's kind of that's kind

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Speaker 9: of far. For the course, the all of zips, all

727
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Speaker 9: of those, all of the analytical things always have them low.

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Speaker 9: And that that makes sense to me that it's because

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Speaker 9: of the young.

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Speaker 2: Guys sh shockingly, they all think the Dodgers are going

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Speaker 2: to win ninety eight games. I don't know how that acts.

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Speaker 5: Joel sounded like me describing high school recruiting and golf yesterday.

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Speaker 3: All right, I will love you, Joel. I will leave

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Speaker 3: you to your day. Thanks for spending time with us.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: You bet.

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Speaker 9: We'll see you guys.

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Speaker 3: Good morning everyone, Thursday and the Fan Morning Show along

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Speaker 3: with Keptain Bowen, James Boyd, I'm jeff Rickard, Mark Dyke

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Speaker 3: and spinning the tunes back there, and we are talking

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Speaker 3: Pacers basketball.

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Speaker 2: Despite all efforts.

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Speaker 3: We've been talking about it this morning, despite all efforts,

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Speaker 3: they come up with a win last night against the

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Speaker 3: New Jersey the Brooklyn Nets, I'll say New Jersey Nets and.

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Speaker 2: San Diego Chargers forever probably.

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Speaker 3: But the Pacers went at one fifteen to one ten,

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Speaker 3: and we've been talking about all morning long. We thought

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Speaker 3: we check in with Scott Agnes from the Fieldhouse Files

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Speaker 3: to get his reaction. He joined us now on the

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Speaker 3: Payless Lookers hotline. So, mister Agnes, on a night when

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Speaker 3: the Pacers play without Pascal Siakam, Andrew Nemhard, Aaron Nismian,

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Speaker 3: TJ McConnell, Avitz a zubatch, clearly without Obi Toppin and

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Speaker 3: clearly without Tyrese Halliburton. They go on the road and

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Speaker 3: they win a basketball game.

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Speaker 2: How surprised were you?

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Speaker 4: Just a little bit only because.

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Speaker 7: How many a few players they had available, right, But

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Speaker 7: the grand scheme of things is that the nets were

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Speaker 7: down players too. What you're seeing a lot of times

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Speaker 7: is opponents sneaking in rest for some of their blessed

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Speaker 7: best players when a team like the Pacers comes around.

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Speaker 7: But I'm not surprised mostly though, Jeff, because you've got

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Speaker 7: to remember, like seven guys that are available, they're playing

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Speaker 7: for a job. Some of them are trying to play

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Speaker 7: for better jobs, and so much like you know, the

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Speaker 7: final NFL game or whatever, there's a lot on the

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Speaker 7: line for these guys, and they played hard.

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Speaker 4: Scott.

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Speaker 5: So far, we have yet to see Rick Carlisle go

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Speaker 5: with like the full on sit Siakam Sidney Smith sitting

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Speaker 5: him hard, unless it's been a back to back. We

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Speaker 5: haven't even seen him do with the Jazz have done

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Speaker 5: and you know, play the guys for three quarters and

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Speaker 5: then sit them post All Star break. What do you

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Speaker 5: think we will see? We will we see the continued

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Speaker 5: nature to what they're doing mostly second nights of back

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Speaker 5: to backs, or do you think we'll see more outright resting?

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Speaker 7: Well, it did catch my eye last night KB the

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Speaker 7: top three scores, I think at that time where Jaris Walker,

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Speaker 7: Quinton Jackson, and Ethan Thompson, and none of those guys

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Speaker 7: were in in the final minutes. I remember specifically it

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Speaker 7: was three minutes left and Jaris Walker was subbed out

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Speaker 7: for Micah Potter.

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Speaker 4: Maybe something, maybe nothing, But realistically, I think I think it's.

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Speaker 7: More likely that their minutes are reduced much more than

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Speaker 7: it is guys taking games off or anything like that.

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Speaker 7: I think you bring you take your time with Obi Tappen.

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Speaker 7: You obviously take your time with Zubots. Those guys in particular,

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Speaker 7: there's guys like Nie Smith who could very much use

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Speaker 7: a couple couple additional games. But I think it'll be

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Speaker 7: a matter of more so how they handle minutes and

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Speaker 7: rotation rather than playing games like last night where you

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Speaker 7: have half your roster available, Scott.

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Speaker 6: When you look at the addition of Avisa, Zubots and

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Speaker 6: what Chad Buchanus on the broadcast last night of Hey,

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Speaker 6: you want to be right back into championship contention next year.

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Speaker 6: How do you think Zubots perhaps add to that, even

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Speaker 6: with the implications of the draft.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Number one, James stableizes at center spot that just

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Speaker 7: has been out of sorts all season, right, just because

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Speaker 7: you didn't have anybody of that caliber. And the and

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Speaker 7: where he really increases what they do is rebounding, something

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Speaker 7: they really have not had out of that position other

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Speaker 7: than maybe somebonus in recent years. But more than that,

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Speaker 7: it's his versatility, it's fits production. His physicality is intriguing.

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Speaker 7: But what I'm really curious to see is so much

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Speaker 7: of what Miles did with pick and pop and Zubots

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Speaker 7: is going to be rolling or got to be prepared

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Speaker 7: to knock down and say that's fifteen foot or right.

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Speaker 7: And so I cautiously optimistically feel good about where the

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Speaker 7: Pacers can be next season. But you got several of

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Speaker 7: these guys coming off significant injuries, certainly number one being

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Speaker 7: Tyrese that it will take some time, but I think

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Speaker 7: having Zubots having that position handled now, you're just intrigued.

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Speaker 4: To go back to the last question is.

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Speaker 7: Can you finish this season on a positive note while

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Speaker 7: also doing your best giving yourself the best case to

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Speaker 7: secure that top four.

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Speaker 4: Pick, and therefore you would retain it.

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Speaker 3: Scott Agnes field House Files joining us here on the

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Speaker 3: Payless Slickers hotline. It's been the topic all day, and

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Speaker 3: you've been talking about the Pacers and their role in it.

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Speaker 2: Is there a fix.

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Speaker 4: In terms of tanking.

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Speaker 7: I've seen a few ideas tossed out that I'd.

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Speaker 4: Give some consideration too.

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Speaker 7: But realistically, I think teams, especially what have we been

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Speaker 7: talking about in the last fifteen years, analytics data driven.

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Speaker 7: I think the Pacers employ about five data people for basketball.

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Speaker 4: And for the front office. They all have their different roles.

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Speaker 7: I just think that's if any team can can get

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Speaker 7: an advantage, I think they're going to try to in

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Speaker 7: a certain way, especially these smaller markets, because.

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Speaker 4: They need any any little little little leg.

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Speaker 7: Up on the Lakers, on the Knicks that they can get,

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Speaker 7: for example.

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Speaker 4: But one idea was, do you do you set the lottery?

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Speaker 7: You know right now and so hey, you can't hurt

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Speaker 7: or help your chances the rest of the way, so

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Speaker 7: you might as well change. I've also seen years ago

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Speaker 7: there's a discussion about just giving having some kind of

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Speaker 7: lottery odds where in general, I think all teams would

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Speaker 7: have a chance of it at it eventually, and so

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Speaker 7: it would be less season specific. But then how do

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Speaker 7: you then you have a more likely than not you

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Speaker 7: would have a case of what happened in Golden State

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Speaker 7: happened where the rich get richer and it takes a

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Speaker 7: little bit longer for teams rebuild. What I would like

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Speaker 7: to see, Jeff, is for the league office to come

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Speaker 7: a little bit more harsher here. If it is blatant,

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Speaker 7: which is not what the Pacers have been doing by

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Speaker 7: any means, but what Utaw, for example.

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Speaker 4: Is doing.

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Speaker 7: If it is blatant, there needs to be some kind

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Speaker 7: of fine, some kind of penalty, to which point we'll

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Speaker 7: find out what number eventually is harsh enough, and then

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Speaker 7: teams will stop and they'll adapt.

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Speaker 5: Scott, I say, screw the fine, They're going to pay

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Speaker 5: whatever they want to pay. You got to take away

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Speaker 5: draft picks if you really want to make a punishment,

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Speaker 5: and that is a severe punishment. But we see this

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Speaker 5: across all pro sports. Owners will happily happily right well,

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Speaker 5: I don't know that many happiies, but they will. They

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Speaker 5: are content to write a check as long as they

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Speaker 5: can maintain the building process to their operation.

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Speaker 7: I you draft, I'm good with that then, But what

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Speaker 7: I would say is, you don't take it away.

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Speaker 4: You go to the back of the lottery line.

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Speaker 7: So if you're fighting for two, three, and four, now

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Speaker 7: you go to fourteen, and you could move up if

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Speaker 7: another team follows and tries to treat the system as well.

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Speaker 7: But I don't want to reduce the number of draft

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Speaker 7: picks because then you're reducing the chances for players to

875
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 7: get drafted and all of.

876
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 4: That as well. But I'm good with that.

877
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 5: I like moving back the lottery. I think that's a

878
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 5: good idea. Scott agnesfield House files with us. That's where

879
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 5: you can find his work. We are approaching a little

880
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 5: bit more on the Indiana fever. We saw the news

881
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 5: yesterday Caitlin Clark Leah Boston a part of a five

882
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,720
Speaker 5: game Team USA schedule coming up. This is next month

883
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 5: down in Puerto Rico. Scott, do you have any idea

884
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 5: will those games be aired on TV? I asked that

885
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 5: because obviously we haven't seen Kitlin Clark in a five

886
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 5: on five setting and quite some time.

887
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 4: Yeah.

888
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 7: No, we do not know just yet, but you would

889
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 7: assume somebody would be smart enough to pick this up,

890
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,240
Speaker 7: and I would be stunned if it wasn't at least

891
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 7: available on something like an ESPN Plus platform, just because

892
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 7: a lot of Phoba games are televised in general, but

893
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 7: these being just a qualifying tournament, I wonder how that

894
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 7: factors in. I wouldn't be certain that it's on any

895
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 7: kind of linear network, but I would be sure.

896
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 4: I would guess it is streamed.

897
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 7: It's the most dominant, you know, women's basketball team being

898
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 7: the Olympics type squad, and this group's trying to participate

899
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 7: in that. They've already, by the way, qualified for the Olympics.

900
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 7: So this is all about a new coach in Karl

901
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 7: Lawson and a new group of players in addition to

902
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 7: some that will obviously be back for the Olympic team,

903
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 7: kind of getting their first taste together and building that continuity.

904
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 6: So, Scott, you know how much of a competitor can is?

905
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 6: Do you think she's still caring a little bit of that?

906
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 6: I should have been here a little while ago, but

907
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 6: now I'm here now, and I have to, you know,

908
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 6: show you all.

909
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:08,439
Speaker 5: Why.

910
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, she doesn't forget anything. No no, no, no, no, yeah,

911
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 7: she's super competitive, you get it. Absolutely. I don't think

912
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 7: it's in a detrimental way, No, but I think that

913
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 7: as she takes the courtache game, I'd sit there, all right,

914
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 7: you didn't want me. Let's and it's not to say

915
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 7: I need to force shots or do anything, and more

916
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 7: of just let's channel this flight like so many of

917
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 7: the greats have done.

918
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,919
Speaker 4: And yeah, that that didn't go in anywhere. She's always

919
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 4: going to remember that.

920
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, when I think of Caitlyn, and honestly, maybe I'm

921
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 6: too online with this guy, but I thought she took

922
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 6: a lot of criticism last year as she battled through

923
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 6: the injuries and ultimately had said of the rest of

924
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 6: the season, And it's almost a little bit of like,

925
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 6: did you all forget that she was first team All

926
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 6: WNBA as a rookie.

927
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 5: And so, I mean, James, oh lord, I mean, I love.

928
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 6: Reggie Mill, but I don't know if if Reggie's really

929
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 6: is dialed in? Is you and I are a Scott

930
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 6: And honestly, you and Tony East more so than I.

931
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 6: But yeah, well we'll have to check in with Reggie

932
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 6: to see if after Caitlyn does her thing with Team USA,

933
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 6: his opinion changes.

934
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 5: Did you see her tweet? I'm sure Scott saw. Scott

935
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 5: you saw the Caitlin Clark tweet when the NBA had

936
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 5: the highlight of Peyton. Pritchard hit a buzzer beat her

937
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 5: and she she gave a couple of wink emojis.

938
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 4: I believe, oh absolutely.

939
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 7: And again that's her being her kind of playful, uncurious self,

940
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 7: which is exactly who she is as like a twenty

941
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 7: three year old.

942
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 4: She's she you know that got to her.

943
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 7: Oh yes, it's like what, I'm sorry what I'm a

944
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 7: generational player, like if you default to anyone at Steph Curry,

945
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 7: like if you give no outside the box thinking that's

946
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 7: who it is.

947
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 4: What was so odd about it, guys, was the fact.

948
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 7: That those are usually planned segments, planned you know, planned

949
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,479
Speaker 7: talking points, meaning she had all afternoon to.

950
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 4: Consider who might be that individual.

951
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 7: I doubt he was caught off guard by the question,

952
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 7: which then you might understan. But it was funny to

953
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 7: see Kaitlyn lean into it because I think it was

954
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 7: Pritchard making a buzzer beater and a big shot and

955
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 7: she was like, yeah, sure I do that too.

956
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 2: Last thing on Caitlyn too.

957
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 3: I just find it so cool maybe she's hanging around

958
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 3: because she's rehabbing, whatever. Just the fact that she's become

959
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 3: such a part of Indianapolis and she shows up at

960
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 3: high school basketball games, college games, NFL games, like she

961
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 3: has fully embraced Indianapolis as a place to be and

962
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 3: I love that you shed any more light on how

963
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 3: she views living here and being a part of this.

964
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, this is a big reason why she was excited

965
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 7: to go presumably at the time obviously, but number one,

966
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 7: to Indiana. She's a Midwest girl. She's from you know,

967
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 7: five six hour drive, so it's easy to be with

968
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 7: family friends, and they were grew up very much like

969
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 7: all of us. And in fact, she committed and thought

970
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 7: she might go to Notre Dame and so all along,

971
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 7: coming to Indiana was the best case scenario for her

972
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 7: with the draft, and then I think think she's just

973
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 7: taken off.

974
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:02,439
Speaker 4: With at number one.

975
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 7: She's able to use the team practice facilities, and that

976
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 7: obviously had a big impact. She's a big sports viewer,

977
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 7: much like Tyree's on the men's side, and so if

978
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 7: there's some kind of competitive.

979
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 4: Game, she wants to watch it and see all of that.

980
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 7: Obviously, your boyfriend Connor McCaffrey at Butler has been a

981
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 7: huge influence and.

982
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 4: A lot of that as well. And then just the

983
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 4: fact that.

984
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 7: She's an avid sports fan. I mean, she's just like

985
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 7: one of us, just living in Indianapolis and loving the Midwest.

986
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 2: Always good to talk to you, buddy.

987
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,439
Speaker 3: Thanks for getting up with us and giving us your

988
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 3: thoughts on how things are going with the Pacers and Fever.

989
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 2: Will continue to call on you and we'll talk to

990
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: you soon.

991
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 4: Absolutely, thank you, guys.

992
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 5: I appreciate that rubber.

993
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: He's got questions, how about a game, They've got answers.

994
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 2: They I'm more of a you know, a corn hoole

995
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 2: man myself, sports music, movies, what high fashions?

996
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 5: Beat hantsl so hot right now.

997
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 2: And in between?

998
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: You have seen a foot with four toes each time

999
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: to get a glimpse into the mind of Mark Dyke.

1000
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,720
Speaker 2: Didn't stop that. You're scaring me each time.

1001
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: For I gotta know, Okay, you do punk I wrote

1002
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 1: a good clean Fike.

1003
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 6: Let's get it off.

1004
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 8: All right, boys, So we're talking Olympics, we might as

1005
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 8: well stay there, uh Winter Olympics sport. If I gave

1006
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 8: you four years to train for that in the twenty

1007
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 8: thirty Olympics. You think you could qualify for Well, I'm

1008
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 8: not qualifying for anything.

1009
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 5: What would be the years.

1010
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 8: That would be? Like, I'm taking that on. I think

1011
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 8: I have a chain.

1012
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 10: I'll probably roll with curling because it's the safest of

1013
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 10: the winter sports, because anything that involves ski snowboarding I'm

1014
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 10: gonna be in the hospital for a very long time.

1015
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 5: I feel like curling is the easy answer. But I

1016
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 5: am kind of fascinated by the luge, skeleton, bob slid,

1017
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 5: okay angle to it now. I think there's different body

1018
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 5: types for all three. Like Bob slid. I think there

1019
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 5: is like a track element to it. There is a

1020
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 5: obviously a strength element to it, pushing the sled, you

1021
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 5: know there at the start, But and I don't know,

1022
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 5: may that's a cool runnings to make coming out, But yeah,

1023
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 5: I mean it is probably curling.

1024
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 8: I mean I'm taking the bob sled only because there's

1025
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 8: three other guys. I'm like, I could be the weak Lincoln.

1026
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 8: I think I'd still be all right.

1027
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 3: Well, Mark, I'm going to be eight hundred and seventy

1028
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 3: two in twenty thirty.

1029
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 2: What would you like me to compete in?

1030
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 8: There's got to be some geriatric jump on it or something.

1031
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 2: I'll jump on a on a luge.

1032
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 5: Oh boy, you.

1033
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 8: Better update the life insurance. I would say, Well, I.

1034
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 3: Means I got used to going downhill fast on a

1035
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 3: bike all those years ago.

1036
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 2: I don't mind speed. Try that, okay, all right?

1037
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 8: Uh we we've seen the Hall of Fame votes not

1038
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 8: going in favor of Reggie Wayne, and we've seen Annavarian

1039
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 8: Vine Terry is going to go in in twenty twenty six.

1040
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 8: Who is the next Colts player that will get the

1041
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 8: Canton invite? Is it Wayne or someone else?

1042
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 6: That's a good question, is Robert mathis I.

1043
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 5: Would say it'll be Frank Gore. You know, I get

1044
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 5: that he only played here for a couple of years,

1045
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 5: But if I'm not mistaken, I think we have m Chapel.

1046
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 5: On last week he said that Gore got to the

1047
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 5: top ten, and I just think running back resumes will

1048
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 5: age better than wide receiver resumes, given with how the

1049
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 5: nature of the NFL is played. So yeah, Mark, I

1050
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 5: would say Frank Gore. If you want to go with

1051
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 5: traditional cult, you know, we probably don't think of Gore

1052
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 5: like that, then I'm probably going math as myself now

1053
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 5: mathis didn't make the final fifteen, right.

1054
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 6: I don't believe so, but looking at his resume.

1055
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 5: I think he has a deserving camp in case more

1056
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 5: than most. But I feel like I've got to be Wayne, right.

1057
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I guess I was trying to be a

1058
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:47,720
Speaker 6: little different from the crowd.

1059
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:52,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, Frank Gore is number three all time career rushing

1060
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 3: yards in the National Football League and now he played

1061
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 3: for a million years, but so well respected around the

1062
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 3: league and putting up those kind of numbers.

1063
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 2: I mean, the only two in front of him are

1064
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 2: Emmitt Smith and Walter Payton.

1065
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 5: See, I think playing for the million years at that

1066
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 5: position as a compliment, I do take people view it

1067
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 5: negative league Like Frank Gordon didn't have the star study

1068
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 5: of years. He was never a top three at his position.

1069
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 5: But to me, longevity at running back is incredible. Yeah,

1070
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 5: and I mean how many what did he overcome an

1071
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 5: ACL in college and then maybe two acls in college

1072
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,760
Speaker 5: or an ACL early in his NFL career as well.

1073
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 3: I'll also point out that Emmitt Smith, who's on top

1074
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 3: average four point two yards of carry, Walter Payton was second.

1075
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 2: With four point four yards per carry. Frank Gore four

1076
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 2: point three yards per carry. That's pretty good.

1077
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 3: You'd take that for fifteen years when you have four

1078
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 3: point three for sure?

1079
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1080
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 8: Are we here on the league about teams like the

1081
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 8: Seahawks and Rams willing to make the tough decisions for

1082
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 8: the greater good and reaping the benefits of being well

1083
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 8: run organizations from the top on down? Do you think

1084
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 8: the Colts are viewed in league circles look like that

1085
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 8: as far as optics is concerned.

1086
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 2: Hmm, Kevin, You've been around that team for a long time.

1087
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1088
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 5: I mean I think league wide, I think they're viewed

1089
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 5: in a fine light. I you know, I think at

1090
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 5: times there's maybe a little bit of a misconception on

1091
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 5: like the Chris ballad resume league wide. I don't know,

1092
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 5: maybe you start to hear more of the chatter of like,

1093
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 5: really he's getting a tenth crack at it, you know,

1094
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 5: here in our own little bubble. I go back to,

1095
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 5: you know, we had a listener reach out about the

1096
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 5: Zubats trade last week, and you know, there are some

1097
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 5: questions about the trade. Obviously we've gotten into the pick

1098
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 5: debate and all of that, and the listener simply just said,

1099
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 5: unlike the Colts. The Pacers have earned my trust when

1100
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 5: it comes to these moves, and I think that pretty

1101
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 5: much sums it up quite well. May if you look

1102
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 5: at the Kevin Pritchard, it's not like Pritchard's hit on

1103
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,240
Speaker 5: a bunch of first round picks, but yet he's built

1104
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 5: a championship team without a lot of that. I would

1105
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 5: say I would agree with Kevin on that one.

1106
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 6: I mean, it's it's hard for me to look at

1107
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 6: the Colts in any other light quite frankly.

1108
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 5: Like, I don't think they're this massive league wide dysfunction. Yeah,

1109
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 5: you know, it's not like they have a ton of

1110
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 5: off the field issue. I think the luster is gone.

1111
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 5: Like honestly, they probably is an afterthought.

1112
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, the juju and the shimmer no longer there.

1113
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 8: Do you think it's events? But like when they you know,

1114
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 8: if you if you pulled an NFL fan outside of

1115
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 8: like Indianapolis and all that stuff, like you're like, what

1116
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 8: do you know about the Colts? Don't you think they say,

1117
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 8: hiring Jeff Saturday and bringing Philip Rivers out of the

1118
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 8: time were kind of like no other franchises doing that.

1119
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think there is Yeah, for the general NFL

1120
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 6: fan Yeah, the headlining moves would be clownish.

1121
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 5: By the way, when she said Shimmer, Carl Orse Gordon

1122
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,720
Speaker 5: the press conference and she said Juju first and then Shimmer,

1123
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 5: I thought Juju Brents had changed his last.

1124
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 2: Name Juju Shimmer.

1125
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 5: I swear that was my first thought. I told her unequivocally,

1126
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 5: I have not lost my shimmer, Juju or confidence or

1127
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 5: whatever you want to say it is. I got to

1128
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 5: pull that out more. Yeah, I think that that you

1129
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 5: hit us say that on Valentine's Day to Maddie.

1130
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 2: You still have your juju. I still tell missus Rickards,

1131
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 2: she's the most beautiful woman I've ever met every.

1132
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 5: Day and every single day, and he takes some notes

1133
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 5: from the boss man.

1134
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 3: Well, I make plenty of missteps to believe me, Mark,

1135
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:14,879
Speaker 3: I think that that kept the moment.

1136
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 2: I think in leak circles they're kind of like an afterthought.

1137
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 3: I don't like anybody thinks that they're terrible, but I

1138
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 3: don't think anybody thinks they're any close.

1139
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 2: To elite either.

1140
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 3: They're just they're in a legit NFL football team, and

1141
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 3: that's about it.

1142
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 8: I tend to agree. All right, let's put the sports

1143
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 8: discussion to the side. Your current biggest pet peeve is

1144
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 8: what if you want to simmer on that for a minute.

1145
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 8: My biggest one is the people that feel the need

1146
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 8: to back into every parking spot that ever existed. Can

1147
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 8: you get the hell out of the way. Just let

1148
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 8: they get past you, like it's not like you're turning

1149
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 8: on your blinker. They go past, like, oh the spots

1150
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 8: for me, and then they start backing and like, just just

1151
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 8: pull in like a normal human. Who are you trying

1152
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 8: to impressed? I always got rearview cameras. Now it's not impressive, bud. Wow,

1153
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 8: let me get to my errands done.

1154
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 2: Those extra five seconds are going to destroy your days.

1155
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 8: Not all these guys that think they can back in

1156
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 8: and then they do eighteen point turns and everything like that,

1157
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 8: Like you not.

1158
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,720
Speaker 5: A very good parallel parker. It sounds like you should

1159
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 5: listen to my father, a former Traverse Head teacher.

1160
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 2: Maybe you should get him a session.

1161
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 5: I'll go, I'll go, yeah, okay.

1162
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 6: So my biggest pet peeve to keep it sports related,

1163
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 6: will probably be at these high school games when people

1164
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 6: just harass the refs, because I promise you I would

1165
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 6: never ref your kids, like I don't think people realize,

1166
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 6: and there's probably a bunch of stats on and I'm

1167
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 6: sure Kyle Netton Rips did a story on it. I

1168
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 6: have as well years ago. But the amount of refs

1169
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 6: who continue to get older but they're not being replenished

1170
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 6: is largely due to the harassment they get from these

1171
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 6: parents people at games. And so I don't want to

1172
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 6: like be dramatic like the world is ending, but if

1173
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 6: I look up in twenty years and these big Friday

1174
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 6: night games are not being played on Friday nights anymore

1175
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 6: because we don't have enough refs, that's your fault, like

1176
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 6: calm down. And the last I have one is, of

1177
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 6: all the players I've seen play this year at the

1178
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 6: high school level, is it wrong for me to say

1179
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 6: none of them are going to the NBA.

1180
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 5: I mean some of them.

1181
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 6: Might possibly, but they're not locks. So enjoy this because

1182
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 6: for ninety nine point nine percent of you, all your

1183
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 6: kids are going to get is this and maybe a

1184
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 6: couple of years in college. So I think they're The

1185
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 6: delusion is crazy a little bit.

1186
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 5: That boy I had nodding my head at all that

1187
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 5: James Boyd. I don't know when the snow starts to

1188
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 5: melt obviously it has to melt to go somewhere, science

1189
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 5: experiment here. But I hate the slushy, dirty nature that

1190
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 5: just is everywhere.

1191
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 4: Right now.

1192
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 5: I feel like I'm just stepping in. You know what

1193
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 5: a bunch of Max Bowen number twos. I'm stepping in

1194
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 5: right now?

1195
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 2: Max taking us straight there? Now, He's good, he's in school.

1196
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 3: Right's fine, Mark, I'm gonna go back to the parking lot.

1197
00:54:58,560 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 2: This is always annoyed me.

1198
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 3: The people who will circle the different aisles in parking

1199
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 3: lots for five minutes to get a spot that's two

1200
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 3: spots closer.

1201
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 2: Than the one that could originally got. I don't understand

1202
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 2: that it's an extra ten feet to walk.

1203
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 5: You and Mark got some parking lot issues.

1204
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 2: No, I just don't understand why people will will circle

1205
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 2: and circle and circle to get fifteen feet closer to

1206
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:22,720
Speaker 2: the building.

1207
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 8: The other one is the people that that clearly see

1208
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 8: you're waiting for a parking spot that they're getting into,

1209
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 8: and they just sit in their car for minutes on end.

1210
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 8: You know what, I'm here, Back out, dude.

1211
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 5: Feelings gone right in that spot?

1212
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 7: Baby?

1213
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 5: Have you backed?

1214
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 2: Have you ever backed into a spot?

1215
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 8: I think I have, only I think I have, but

1216
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 8: I also made sure I had no one waiting for

1217
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 8: me to do it.

1218
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 6: Fair enough, Mark, I think you're a hater on that one,

1219
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 6: but hey, we all got to hate something. Well, I

1220
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 6: got it back in.

1221
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 8: I gotta put my grocery, get the hell out of

1222
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 8: my way.

1223
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 6: I would say one real quick one that bothered you.

1224
00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 6: Whenever I go home and watch stuff with my family,

1225
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 6: they don't like subtitles, and I hate.

1226
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 5: That because I'm not a subtitle person.

1227
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 6: I'm a subtitle guy, mainly because if we're watching something

1228
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 6: and someone has like an accent, like, for example, you're

1229
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 6: watching Game of Thrones, I don't always pick up, like

1230
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 6: on every little word that's said or something like that.

1231
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 6: And my dad in particular, he don't care. He just

1232
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 6: wants to see who gets, you know, beat up or

1233
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 6: dies or whatever, and you'll get to just the story

1234
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 6: that way. But I'm like, can we please put them

1235
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 6: the subtitles?

1236
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:26,879
Speaker 2: Mark?

1237
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,439
Speaker 5: Are you go a middle finger at people from behind

1238
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 5: the wheel?

1239
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 9: Oh?

1240
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:30,760
Speaker 2: I have before.

1241
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 6: I don't want to see you any any road rage incidents, mister.

1242
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 5: Look it is wild. There's probably been, you know what,

1243
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 5: I've been driving for twenty years. I would say, I've

1244
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 5: thrown up the middle finger maybe two or three times,

1245
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 5: and every time it was met with, oh, this person's

1246
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 5: ready to you know what, like they're ready to like

1247
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 5: road rage, and I'm like, damn, I was just throwing

1248
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:55,919
Speaker 5: up the middle finger and then gonna go my way.

1249
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 5: But like and of course, you know, at that point

1250
00:56:58,280 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 5: then I'm like, all right, I'll probably should go fifty

1251
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,399
Speaker 5: five in the right lane here for for for you know,

1252
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 5: a couple of miles. I'm a calm driver. I do

1253
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 5: not years a long time.

1254
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 2: I don't got I've got two that just started driving

1255
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 2: within the last six months, and I've told them over

1256
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 2: and over and over.

1257
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 3: Too many crazy people out there. They could be carrying guns.

1258
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 3: Just go about your way, man. If anything happens, yep, sorry,

1259
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 3: go about your way.

1260
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 2: I don't want you to getting involved.

1261
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 4: We do.

1262
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 6: Nobody want to be around your kids driving. They got

1263
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 6: to get a little more experience on the road. No,

1264
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 6: you're to put the sticker on the back so I know,

1265
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 6: to get around, get away from them. Youngest looks for

1266
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 6: the youngest to back into the parking spot.

1267
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 2: Gret's good driver.

1268
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 5: I'm seeing more and more of those stickers, Like the

1269
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 5: driver stickers. I'm like, is this You are way older

1270
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 5: than a student, sir. It's like Jake Querry going back

1271
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 5: to you know I you Kokemo. He would never put

1272
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 5: in his car