1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: So that's how it sounded over the weekend. Two big 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:06,159 Speaker 1: ones Indiana and Don Fisher, the voice of the Hoosiers 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: that you heard there vaulting their way into the top 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: three in college football. And dare I say it, I'm 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: going to allow all of you right now to go 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: ahead and set the recording device on whatever way you're listening, 7 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: whether it be right now on the app, whether you're 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: listening at ninety three five and one oh seven five FM, 9 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: whether you're listening at one oh seven five or one 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: oh seven five thefan dot com, whatever means in which 11 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: you are hearing my voice right now, you might as 12 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: well record this so you can play it later, because 13 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: you still won't believe it. Through six weeks of the 14 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: National Football League season in twenty twenty five, your Indianapolis 15 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: Colts are the number one seed in the American Conference 16 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: and are tied with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for the 17 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: best record in professional football. Listen again to what I 18 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: just said. The Indianapolis Colts, who are leading the AFC South, 19 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: are a game clear of everyone in their division. At minimum, 20 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: they are a game clear of everybody in the AFC West, 21 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: and they can further cement and pull away from that 22 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: if they were too, for example, beat the LA Chargers 23 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: coming up next. They are a half game clear of 24 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: everybody in the AFC North, and they're a half game 25 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: clear of everybody in the AFC East. The Indianapolis Colts 26 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: are five and one, and yesterday was one of those 27 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: games that you say, you know what, you take the win, 28 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: and you move along. And there's plenty to unpack from it, 29 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: because yes as the week go we can start to 30 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: nitpick or talk about areas that are of concern that 31 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: dare I say it need to be cleaned up. But 32 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: you did the things that you need to do. And 33 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 1: that's to me, what is the most remarkable so far 34 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: about this franchise and this group is now we have 35 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: transitioned from I'm looking at the schedule trying to figure 36 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: out the places where they're gonna get to win. 37 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: Too. 38 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the schedule to try to figure out 39 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: places where they're gonna stub their toe. 40 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: And as long as. 41 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: They mind their p's and q's and do what they 42 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: need to do, then you look at it and you go, Okay, 43 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: the Chargers will be tough in La. Kansas City is 44 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: certainly gonna be tough outside of that, does Seattle scare you, 45 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: although they're kind of in the same mold, having that 46 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: year where you're like, really, are they good? And this 47 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: is an NFL town. The NFL is the eight hundred 48 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: pound gorilla, the NFL is the top dog. And we 49 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: you know, last night you're watching Sunday Night Football and yeah, 50 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: the ALCS is on, but and you're still looking at 51 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: the standings, and you're talking about the Colts, and you're 52 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: talking about the bizarre nature of the pregame yesterday, and 53 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: you're talking about the resiliency of Daniel Jones to throw 54 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: a pick six and then come back with this composure 55 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: that the rest of the team seems to rally around. 56 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: And you're talking about Jonathan Taylor and the unique ability 57 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: the Colts have not only to utilize him and take 58 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: advantage of the fact he's the best back in the 59 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: National Football League, but also the schemes, the way that 60 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: they're coming up with freeing him up, using the versatility 61 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: of their offensive lineman to lead him to pull, to 62 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: move in different directions. You're talking about the way that 63 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: Tyler Warren is a complete game changer for them, talking 64 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: about the fact that there are some question marks maybe 65 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: within their linebacking cores, but again, they make plays when 66 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: they need to defensively down the stretch. Talking about whether 67 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: or not that was a defensive pass interference that helped 68 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: them in the end, but not looking a gift horse 69 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: in the mouth because there have been other plays over 70 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: the course of the season that did go their way 71 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: as well or maybe win against them, and all of 72 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: those things start to balance themselves out. And there are 73 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: so many things that you can look at Yesterday, the 74 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: the what is it about Anthony Richardson where the bizarre 75 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: seems to find him? And that's at times, and I've 76 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: said this before about him, it's not always his fault 77 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: with Anthony Richardson. There are times with this poor guy 78 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: again goodwill hunting. It's not your fault, son, it's not 79 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: your fault. But for whatever reason, the bazar seems to 80 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: find him. He is literally a to the odd and 81 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: again it's gonna cost him time. I you know, and 82 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: I realize he's not your he's not the guy that's 83 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: taking snaps for you, regardless. But it's impossible to not 84 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: go back in your mind and say to yourself, isn't 85 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: this part of why Daniel Jones was selected as the 86 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: starter to begin with, because you just kind of knew 87 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: this was gonna. 88 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: Be a point. 89 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: Can you imagine if Anthony Richardson's your starter. Can you 90 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: imagine if your starting quarterback goes down because of a 91 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: freak accident where a stretch band snaps back and hits 92 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: him in the eye and fractures his orbital bone. You know, 93 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: all of those things, And with all of that compound, 94 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: with all of those ingredients put in, like each one 95 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: of them as an individual shot put into this cocktail 96 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: that I'm serving to you, it is still not as potent. 97 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: Perhaps it is still not as strong a mixed drink, 98 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: perhaps as what might be the bigger story. And I 99 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: never thought in doing sports talk radio in an NFL city, 100 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: I never ever thought. 101 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 2: And it's not. 102 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: Gonna happen a lot. And I'm not saying it even 103 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: is happening right here. Here's the dilemma that we have 104 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: at this radio station. Here's the dilemma we have that 105 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: I have as a host of this program. Of those 106 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: listening to my voice right now that are sports fans 107 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, probably eighty percent of you are fans of 108 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: the Colts. If you live in Indianapolis and you're a 109 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: sports fan, and I say eighty percent because and I know, gasp, 110 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: but dare I say it? There are people that have 111 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: a team either A you don't grow up in Indianapolis. 112 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: You grew up in Milwaukee. Move down here for Lily, 113 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: you're a diehard Packer fan. Yeah, you like the Colts, 114 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: They're fine, but the Packers are your team. Or you 115 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: grew up a Cowboys fan or a Steelers fan, and 116 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: when you were in the eighth the Colts moved here 117 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: and you eventually learned, but you can't get rid of 118 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: that deep down childhood fandom. So you like the Colts, 119 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: but your favorite team is the cout you know, whatever 120 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: right you have that, or you know, it could be 121 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: that grandpa was a diehard Bears fan and your first 122 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: memories were sitting on Grandpa's lap watching the Bears, and 123 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: so you've always liked the Bears because of Grandpa. 124 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 2: I get it. 125 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: But eighty percent of you buy and large are Colts fans. 126 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: Eighty five probably might even be higher. On the college 127 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: side of things, sixty percent of you are Indiana fans. 128 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: Forty percent of your diehard notre Dame fans twenty percent 129 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: or diehard Purdue fans not the higher percentage of fan 130 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: listening to me right now is wanting to hear about 131 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts. And that's the challenge because the NFL 132 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: is king, and the Colts are the king right Not 133 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: only is the NFL king, the Indianapolis Colts right now 134 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: are king of the NFL, at least for this season. 135 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: I realized the reigning Super Bowl champ would be technically 136 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: the king. But Indianapolis is the number one seed in 137 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: the AFC. But the best story in football right now 138 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: in the United States of America, the best story in 139 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: sports right now in the state of Indiana, the story 140 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: that is the one that has the most surreal line going, 141 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: the story that is the one that you wouldn't. 142 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 2: You wouldn't believe it if you went. 143 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: In the time machine and I went back and tried 144 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: to tell two year, two year ago version of me 145 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: that arguably the best team in college football is the 146 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: Indiana Hoosiers. 147 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 2: And I get it. 148 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: I get that I am speaking to a smaller percentage 149 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: of you. I understand it. I'm asking of you that 150 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: you hear me out on this. Even if you're not 151 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: a fan of Indiana. I totally understand and respect it, 152 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: and I appreciate your ear and we'll have plenty of 153 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 1: time to talk about the NFL. But I've thought about 154 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: this very long and hard, and I thought about it 155 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: very seriously. What is the bigger story right now in Indianapolis. 156 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: The more popular story is that of the Colts. They're 157 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: both great stories. They're both great, right, They're great. The 158 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: more popular story is that of the Colts. Based on 159 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: the numbers, again, Delicatessen, Colts are turkey sandwiches. Most of 160 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: you coming in are wanting turkey. But at the same time, 161 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: when all of a sudden, I realized that I have 162 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: the absolute best batch of pastrami ever. That's rare. They're 163 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: the mackanof peaches. You can only get them so often. 164 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 1: I've got to be able to tell people, listen, you 165 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: got to try this. And right now, Indiana football and 166 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: what they did this weekend, what Kurt Signetti has done 167 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: and what that program imus doing, is the best story 168 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: right now in college football. If I'm doing sports talk 169 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: radio right now in Mesa, Arizona, if I'm doing sports 170 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: talk radio right now in Galveston, Texas. If I'm doing 171 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: sports talk radio right now in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, I'm talking 172 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: about the fact that Indiana may be the most complete 173 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: football team in the country. Ohio State's unbelievable, no question, 174 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: no question. But in terms of you know what Indiana 175 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 1: did on Saturday. Indiana on Saturday went into Oregon and 176 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: outpaced Oregon. They out fasted Oregon. Oregon, which is a 177 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 1: team that is known for its speed. Oregon. That is 178 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 1: a team that's known for playing in space. Oregon, that's 179 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: a team that's known for having a defense that can 180 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: be smothering because of their speed. And then obviously athletes 181 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: galore Oregon with unlimited budget and Phil Knight Nike money 182 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: and the duck holding up the sign saying that the 183 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: Indy five hundred is Walmart f one. All that right, 184 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: Oregon is a cachet, a brand. Oregon a team when 185 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 1: you go in that's won twenty plus straight games at home, 186 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: the whole deal, hasn't lost a conference game, all of it. 187 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 2: And Indiana went in there. 188 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 1: Indiana, which two years ago was snapping and singing their 189 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: fight song after beating Akron in four overtimes two years ago. 190 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: The biggest basement, dog dwelling, joke program and college football 191 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: of all time, not narrative fact, the losingest program in 192 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: the history of Division one college football two years ago, 193 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: celebrating a four overtime win against Akron two years ago. 194 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: And now Indiana is ranked in the top five. They 195 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: are the third ranked team in the country. What do 196 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: we believe about rankings? Usually not a lot less Your 197 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 1: teams rank third, and then you're like, hallelujah, let's talk 198 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: about the rankings. But Indiana, they have the best resume 199 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: right now in college football because their linebackers make plays, 200 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: because their running backs make plays, because their quarterback makes plays, 201 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: because their coach is a leader and is vociferous and 202 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: is confident, all of it all across the board. And 203 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: that happens on Saturday, and you're thinking to yourself, Okay, 204 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: what possibly could even equate to this biggest story heading 205 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: into the capitol, you know, to start Monday morning. And 206 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 1: that's the fact that the Colts now have the best 207 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: record in the National Football League, at least tied with 208 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: it with Tampa Bay. What a weekend, What an incredible weekend, 209 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 1: And we got plenty to unpack over the course of today. 210 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: Don Fisher are going to join us the voice of 211 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 1: the Hoosiers about fifteen minutes from now. Mike Chappel will 212 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: join us to talk a little bit of Colts at 213 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 1: one o'clock today, and I believe Sason college basketball polls 214 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: come out today. Rob Blackman is going to join us 215 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: the voice of the Pernue Boilermakers coming up at the 216 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: two o'clock hour. We can do both football and basketball 217 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: with Rob, but certainly from a basketball standpoint, there's a 218 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: lot to look forward there as well, and the Pacers 219 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: and Action tonight taking on the San Antonio Spurs. But 220 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, it was an unbelievable weekend and I 221 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: did not think. I did not think that anything over 222 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: the course of the seventeen weeks of the National Football 223 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: League season could eat I'm not going to say eclipse, 224 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: but equate to a talking point during the course of 225 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: the season like the NFL does. But college football right 226 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: now with Indiana is right there. I really did think, 227 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: I'll admit this now. I thought Indiana would go in 228 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: and hang with Oregon. I did, and I was a 229 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: little bit curious about whether or not Oregon after the 230 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: pen when I saw Oregon against Penn State. I was 231 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: so impressed by the way they played down the stretch 232 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 1: of that game and their offensive efficiency against Penn State, 233 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: and I thought, Okay, this is going to be a 234 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: monumental task for Indiana, not just against Oregon, but going 235 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: into Happy Valley as well, two big tests for the Hoosiers. 236 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: And then once Penn State completely fell apart. And will 237 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: get more into that later, because that does fall back 238 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: to Indiana when you're talking about Penn State football and 239 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: where they go from here, and I think you all 240 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about there, but I wondered if 241 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: maybe Oregon, Okay, is Oregon not as stout as we thought. 242 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: I still think they're extremely good, but Indiana went in 243 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: and out Oregon to Oregon. That's what was so impressive 244 00:14:55,280 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: to me about it. So then you flip the page 245 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: to the next day, you're still in that that that 246 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: that gaze about all of it, and you hear the 247 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: news before the game even began. For the Colts, it 248 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: was bizarre. Before the game even began, it was bizarre. 249 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: First off, the play with Mooney Ward and you saw it, 250 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: I say, play in the pregame. He's going out, He's 251 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: running a pattern, He's at full speed and Drew Ogletrees 252 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: doing the same thing, and it had to be like 253 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: slow motion for the two assistants that were involved in 254 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: each respective player watching literally it's like you're watching it unfold, 255 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: probably thinking to them, you know, the other one's got 256 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: to know. The other one's got to know, and then 257 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: boom the collision and now Ward is down. And that 258 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: is such an important aspect because you knew going into 259 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: the game that Shavert Moody Ward was going to have 260 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: one job, one job, follow Marvin Harrison Junior everywhere he goes. 261 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: And while Marvin Harrison Junior we know, partially because his 262 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: name is Marvin Harrison Junior, partially because of the pedigree 263 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: Ohio State, and partially because of the film, we know 264 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: what a talent he is. But he hasn't really gotten 265 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: off and running at the professional level. But he's starting 266 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: to show it. Had a primetime game recently where looked 267 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: like he was very like some assembly required out of 268 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: the box, and then it started to come together, and 269 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: so you knew what a player that was, and you 270 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: knew what Jacobe Brissett. Whenever you get a backup quarterback 271 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: that's coming in and Brissett is a competent player, no question, 272 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: we know that in Indianapolis. But he's gonna have to 273 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: go safety net, he's gonna have to go layups, he's 274 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: gonna have to go with the cushion of a player 275 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: to get him in rep and you knew that was 276 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: going to be Marvin Harrison Junior. 277 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: So before the. 278 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 1: Game even begins, the guy whose job is going to 279 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: be stick with him like he's gum and let me 280 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: know if he's dent teen boom out. And then Marvin 281 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: Harrison Junior speaking of the bizarre out. So there were 282 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: all these weird things going on. The Anthony Richardson injury 283 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 1: the last time that I heard of an injury like that, 284 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: And I don't know if it was the exact same injury, 285 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,719 Speaker 1: but I do recall Reggie Miller, if we're going on 286 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: local reference standpoint, Reggie Miller having the season. I believe 287 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: it was ninety six where he had an eye socket 288 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: fracture or break that led him to miss time and 289 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: then wear the goggles and everything else. And it was 290 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: a lengthy process. And you hope the best for Anthony Richardson, 291 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, but it just seems be it 292 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: fair or that the bizarre is attached anywhere he goes, right, 293 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,719 Speaker 1: But the thing that I thought was key in the 294 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: game yesterday and the thing that again validated we're past 295 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: the point now of trying to validate the Daniel Jones 296 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 1: selection as the starting quarterback. The guy is having potentially 297 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: a pro you know, an MVP season at this point. 298 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: But what Daniel Jones did yesterday to me that was 299 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: the most impressive was Arizona is a little bit different. 300 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: I'm not, by any stretch of the imagination and NFL 301 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. I'm not a defensive coordinator. I don't pretend 302 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: to be either one or know the nuances of what 303 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: goes into the schemes, the looks, all of that in 304 00:18:55,880 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: the National Football League level. But I do know that Arizona, 305 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: you know, there are certain defenses that you go in 306 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: and they present a certain look to you and you 307 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 1: know right away what they're doing. You can go back 308 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: and watch video of whether it be Manning or luck 309 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers quarterbacks in this town that have been able 310 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: to go up to the line of scrimmage, look across, 311 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 1: see exactly what's happening and say, Okay, Mike linebacker's here. 312 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: Here's exactly what they're doing. And oftentimes if a play 313 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: is called that they know may not be it's not 314 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: that they're looking for the best play. They're looking to 315 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: audible out simply to get out of a bad play. 316 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: So they're coming up to the line and they're saying, Okay, 317 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: they've called for me a bubble screen here, but the 318 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: way they're lined up defensively, that playing is gonna work. 319 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: So I'm just going to audible to a handoff to 320 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,959 Speaker 1: get out of that play and then we'll move along 321 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: and regroup. And there is a skill that comes with that. 322 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: And Daniel Jones yesterday I thought was really really good, 323 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: consider he was seeing as tricky a junk defense as 324 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: he will see all year in terms of a defense 325 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 1: that gives him looks at the line that are totally 326 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: different than the look that they are actually going to 327 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: execute once the ball is snapped, and more often than 328 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: not through his progressions. And I know he threw a 329 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 1: pick right, a costly pick, but his ability to bounce 330 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: back from that, his ability to quickly process, compute, analyze, 331 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: and then go out of a bad play to eventually 332 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: get back into a good play, I thought was a 333 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: huge key. And it goes back to again and we'll 334 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: hear later from Shane Steichen talking about it. Just this 335 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: symbiotic nature between coach and quarterback, and that relationship right 336 00:20:52,440 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: now is growing and rippling throughout the entire franchise and 337 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: there are even messages with that that go across the 338 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: rest of the NFL. You know, I saw that Tua 339 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: in Miami. Tua in Miami called out his teammates, said 340 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: enough is enough and called out his teammates. And the 341 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: thing that he called him out for was he said 342 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: that it comes down to preparedness and attention to detail 343 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: and being on time for meetings, organizational things, Because what 344 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: if we heard about about the quarterback position, it's organizational. 345 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: It's more than just coming up and being able to 346 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: throw the football. It's about being able to process all 347 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: of that. And we didn't know that Daniel Jones was 348 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: that guy. I don't know that we had a chance 349 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: in New York to see that Daniel Jones is that guy. 350 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: But whether it be just the brief time he was 351 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: in Minnesota, whether it be being able to then sit 352 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: back and analyze and really look over everything that took 353 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: place for him, in New York, whatever it may be. 354 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: Everything now the marriage between Daniel Jones and Shane Steiken 355 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: is working, and it's working for the entire roster because 356 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: I think they are following in line of the example 357 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: being set of organizational and there's a ton to get 358 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: to and a ton to celebrate, and really it is 359 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: when I talk about symbiotic, it's a symbiotic nature in 360 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: this town right now of two football teams, two football teams, 361 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: both of which not only and I'm not going to 362 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: say that Indiana's exceeding expectation. 363 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 2: We knew they were going to be really good. 364 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: But you look at Indiana and you look at the Colts, 365 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: and now you're looking at it going, you know what, 366 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: good teams find ways to win games. That Iowa game 367 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: was huge for Indiana because good teams dig down, they 368 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: find a way, and then they put it behind them 369 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,239 Speaker 1: and they move along and they get better. And the 370 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: Colts I think, have done the same thing as well. 371 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: And you start to look at the schedule and the 372 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: sugar flum pair the sugar plum faerries start dancing in 373 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: your head because there's a lot to be excited about. 374 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: And Don Fisher deserves to be as excited about it 375 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: as anybody, because he sat through a lot of bad 376 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: football and he's getting real warded with as you heard 377 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: the excitement in his voice, the story of college football. 378 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: And he's going to join us on the other side 379 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: and we'll take a look back on what was a 380 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: spectacular day in Eugene, and we'll do it next. You're 381 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: listening to Quarian Company here on a victorious Monday. 382 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 2: On the fan. The Indiana Hoosiers. 383 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 1: They go out to Audstin Stadium in Eugene, Oregon. And 384 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: I thought out Oregon to Oregon because look, I think 385 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: the world of Oregon and the way that they that 386 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 1: football program and the fact that they seem to always 387 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: have speeded every position in Indiana was faster, Indiana was 388 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: better thirty to twenty. 389 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 2: They win. 390 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 1: Don Fisher joining us now on the Java House Peel 391 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: and poor guest line and Don todd Byer, our executive producer, 392 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 1: just came in and said, you know, and Todd's a 393 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: prdue guy, by the way, and he said, you know, 394 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: I'm just happy for Don Fisher and we've talked about 395 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: that before, but Don, this is unbelievably cool, and I 396 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: know that we went through this last year, but man, 397 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: it feels like it's even another rung hire, doesn't it. 398 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 3: It does right now, there's no doubt about that. Obviously, 399 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 3: Indiana winning over Oregon at Oregon against a team. 400 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 4: That everybody picked to win. 401 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 3: That ballgame, and now Indiana's moved up into the spot 402 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 3: that they were essentially in the third position in the rankings. 403 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 3: It's like it's kind of a fairy tale, if you 404 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 3: know what I mean, especially for those of us who 405 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 3: have been around Indiana football for as long as I have. 406 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 3: But at the same time, it's not a fairy tale. 407 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 3: We know that it's reality, and it's probably the most 408 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 3: fun I've ever had calling football games. 409 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: Don I think the thing and I want you to 410 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: tell me if you agree with this or if what 411 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: I'm about to say even makes sense. But to me, 412 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: the thing that is the most astounding of this is 413 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: it is a complete mindset shift in culture change. And 414 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: by that I mean, you know, I'm watching that game 415 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: with Oregon and I'm sitting there visualizing and seeing the 416 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 1: lane open up, where I think, to myself, this is 417 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: going to be a typical Kurt Signetti Indiana game where 418 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 1: they just wait for the other team to make mistakes, 419 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 1: they keep their foot on the pedal, they pull away, 420 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: and in the last couple of minutes, you know what's 421 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: going to happen. And that is such the antithesis of 422 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: the mindset that we had for so long. It is 423 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: remarkable to me that we in two years have almost 424 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 1: forgotten about what it was like to be an Indiana 425 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: fan for the previous one hundred Does that make sense? 426 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 3: It does, except I'll never forget, well, yeah, what it 427 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 3: was like before. 428 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 4: But I will tell you this, there's no question that it's. 429 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 2: It's a complete mind change, it really is. 430 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 3: And as quickly as it has come, that's the most 431 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 3: remarkable thing because I don't know that anybody has ever 432 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 3: turned a program around faster than what Kurt Signetti has 433 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 3: and then turned that mindset of the fan base around 434 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 3: along with it. Because I don't care who you are, 435 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 3: if you've been an Indiana football fan forever, you've been 436 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 3: sorry about that big Mac truck to miscisco on by 437 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 3: at any rate, if you've been a football fan at 438 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 3: Indiana for any length of time, you know what the 439 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 3: struggles have been and how do you get out of that? 440 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 3: And you know the Bill Bowery era was a great 441 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 3: era of Indiana football, and nobody wanted to talk about 442 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 3: that back in the day because they started out and 443 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 3: eleven in Bill's first year, and then it was four 444 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 3: and seven the second year. But after that, all of 445 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 3: a sudden, for about the next eight years, Indiana football 446 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 3: was something special under coach Bowery. But this has been 447 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 3: beyond that because of the success and how quickly it 448 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 3: has come, and so there's no way to forget the 449 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 3: past and know what we were at that time. But 450 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 3: at the same time, you better celebrate this while it's happening, 451 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 3: because we don't know how long that's going to take place. 452 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 3: But we do know that if Kurt Signetti is here 453 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 3: that long, it's gonna say this way because he is 454 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 3: something special. 455 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 2: Don you know. 456 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: You go back to Bill Mallory, who was a great 457 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: football coach, and while I did not know him by 458 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: all account, from what I've heard, a great man, right. 459 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: I mean, those that played for him speak the world 460 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: of Bill Mallory and and those teams were tough and disciplined. 461 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: Signetti's teams are those things. But you know, it's a 462 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: different era of football now, and they there's a speed there. 463 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: I mean, they just they are literally they swarm you. 464 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 1: So my question would be this, and maybe we don't 465 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: know this because it's only two years in, but do 466 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: you believe that Kurt Signetti has gone out and gotten 467 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: players that have basically been able to play the system 468 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 1: that he had in mind? Or is this the kind 469 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: of coach that because of coming in here, getting the 470 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: transfers and then with the portal, he is schematically coming 471 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: up with things that benefit what it is that he sees. 472 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: Does that make sense what I'm asking? 473 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 5: Yeah? 474 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 4: I think so. 475 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, Jake, the thing about Signetti is this, 476 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 3: and I don't think I think he gets different players 477 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 3: and he but here's the first thing. The first thing 478 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 3: about Sibbetti is when he looks at film, he dissects 479 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 3: a player. He dissects what he thinks is really good, 480 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 3: what he doesn't think is quite as good. Can I 481 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 3: coach this kid? Is he coachable? He looks at the 482 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 3: character or the kid first, and then he figures out 483 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 3: if if this guy progresses like we think he can, 484 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 3: does he fit what we need? So he goes through 485 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 3: a whole process of how. 486 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 2: He looks at. 487 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 3: Players, whether they're in high school kids or they're transfer 488 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 3: portal players. And when he looks at the transfer portal, 489 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 3: he looks at experience first, other than the character aspect. 490 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 3: That character is one of the biggest things he looks 491 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 3: at first. But again he looks at playing experience. How 492 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 3: much does this guy played? Is he coachable? Can he change? 493 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 3: Can he do things that we ask him to do. 494 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 3: He goes through a whole process of things. I can't 495 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 3: even relate all the things that he asks himself about 496 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 3: what he sees on film of a kid and then 497 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 3: in talking to that young man to see if he 498 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 3: can get him to come to Indiana. So he's just 499 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 3: unique in that way. I don't think he looks at 500 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 3: the ranking of a player. Got we got more three 501 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 3: star guys in this football team that we have anything 502 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 3: else other than a few transfer portal guys that came in. 503 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 3: But he's looking at whether he thinks the kid can 504 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 3: develop and be the kind of player that he likes, 505 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 3: the kind of player that's disciplined, understands his role, and 506 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 3: then takes care of business on the field. So I 507 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 3: just think he's unique. I'm not saying that if there 508 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 3: are any other coaches that do exactly the same thing 509 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 3: because there I just and we've been around them other 510 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 3: than a Bill Lowery type who was all about toughness 511 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 3: and physicality when he came here, and when you watched 512 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 3: Indiana play under Bill Bwery in his first year in Indiana, 513 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 3: you could tell that this team was going to be 514 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 3: better than what we'd had in the past just by 515 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 3: the way they went out and performed on the field. 516 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 3: And it wasn't because they were great teams. They were 517 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 3: zero to eleven in that first season, and then they 518 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 3: got better and better in the next two years. Kurt 519 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 3: Signetti has done this in one season. He's done the 520 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 3: very first season he's been here, made up a successful team, 521 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 3: got to the College Football Playoff. That's why this is 522 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 3: so unique and it's so much fun to be a 523 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 3: part of because we've never seen anything like it before. 524 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: Don speaking of never seen anything like it now, I'm 525 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: not saying what I'm about to say, I've never seen, 526 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: but it's been a while in terms of great catches. Okay, 527 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: there was a play in that game in Oregon that 528 00:30:55,680 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: I thought exemplified the Signetti era, and I'm talking talking 529 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: about Omar Cooper Junior goes up and makes a one 530 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: handed grab. I can't remember if it was a second 531 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: down or a third down. I think it was on 532 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: the first half of the game. But he makes this 533 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,959 Speaker 1: remarkable one head to catch. Right, he comes down and 534 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: then has the presence of mind to then put a 535 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: spin move basically break a tackle and dive forward to 536 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: get the first down. So he had the style was there, 537 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: but it was the presence of mind and the discipline 538 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: to then have the substance to finish the play and 539 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: go one step further. Now, some of that Omar Cooper, 540 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: the kid out of Lawrence North. You know, he gets 541 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: a lot, He gets all the credit there, don't get 542 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: me wrong. But part of that to me just feels 543 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: like it exemplified attention to detail. And I don't know 544 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: that I've seen a sports team that we've covered in 545 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: this market have attention to detail like this Indiana football team. 546 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 2: Now, I'm going to give you. 547 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,479 Speaker 1: Don Fisher the mission here to tell me that I 548 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: am full of hyperbole there. 549 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 3: Well, there's no question there is a tremendous amount of 550 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 3: attention to detail on this football team. For every position, 551 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 3: for every player, they all are responsible for those things. Again, 552 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 3: it is something that Signetti and his coaching staff teaches. 553 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 3: They teach you the things you have to do on 554 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 3: the football field to be successful. And if you look 555 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 3: at here's the other thing, Jake, fundamentals. If you don't 556 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 3: coach fundamentals, then you have no chance to be a 557 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 3: great football program or a great basketball program or anything 558 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 3: else in sports. You have to teach the fundamentals first, 559 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 3: and they have to be a constant from a practice perspective. 560 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 3: And if you do that, all of a sudden things 561 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 3: start to fall in place for players. Players realize that 562 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 3: that's the key. As you pay attention to fundamentals and 563 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 3: you work on those kinds of things, that's when you 564 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 3: become a great football player and a great football team. 565 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 3: And I think that is again something that this coach 566 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 3: and this coaching staff puts forth on a daily basis 567 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 3: in their practice sessions and all those kinds of things 568 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 3: and the other thing that they do. And I think 569 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 3: this is critical this day and age because there are 570 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 3: so many coaches at the football on football and basketball, 571 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 3: they just practice NonStop. They'll go two and a half, 572 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 3: three and a half hours, those kinds of things. This 573 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 3: coach doesn't do that. They practice an hour and fifty minutes. 574 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 3: Generally speaking, that's about it. And every moment of those 575 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 3: practices are something's going on, something's being instructive, something's being 576 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 3: talked about, and they work on that repetitively all the time. 577 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 3: It's just it's a process. To some it could be 578 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 3: a tedious process. But to these players, I think they've 579 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 3: all bought into the idea if we continue to do 580 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,399 Speaker 3: this the way our coach is asking us to do it. 581 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 3: And I heard Aidan Fisher basically in an interview the 582 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 3: other day simply say the very same thing I'm talking 583 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 3: about here. You continue to do it day after day. 584 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 2: Week after week. 585 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 3: You mount one practice and one fundamental on top of 586 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 3: the other, and you just continue to work at it, 587 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 3: and you just try to get better each and every 588 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 3: time that you're in a practice session. I just think 589 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 3: that philosophy is the only way to go if you're 590 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 3: going to be successful. And maybe other schools do it, 591 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 3: I've never seen anybody do it faster than what Signetti 592 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 3: has done it with this program and with this team, 593 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 3: and maybe the transfer portal and the older guys that 594 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 3: they get out of the portal and guys that they're 595 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,720 Speaker 3: more experienced they buy into it too, So it doesn't 596 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,919 Speaker 3: matter who coached you before. You have to buy into 597 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 3: what they're selling now. And these kids all do it 598 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 3: and it's amazing. 599 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: Okay, Don, before we let you go, Don Fisher is 600 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: our guest. He's on the Java House Peel and Poor 601 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,240 Speaker 1: Guest line. He's the voice of the third ranked Indiana 602 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 1: who's your's highest ranking in school history. Don, obviously, and 603 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,879 Speaker 1: it goes without saying, you know you mentioned it. How 604 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: long is Signetti going to be here? Well, I'm going 605 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: to get into that in a minute here, but I 606 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,240 Speaker 1: wanted to ask your take on this. We don't know, obviously, 607 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: and it would be unfair for me to pretend that 608 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: you have some sort of immediate line into the thought 609 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: process of Kurt Signetti in his future. But because his 610 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: home state school, a major power in Penn State, is 611 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: now looking for a coach, his name is going to 612 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: be linked to that. What sort of things has he 613 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: said to you, insinuated to you in interviews or otherwise 614 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: just in terms of his I guess comfort level at 615 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: Indiana and whether or not you think he is a 616 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: guy that has an eye elsewhere. 617 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 2: The only thing. 618 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 3: I could tell you in that regard Jake, and I 619 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 3: have no knowledge of what his plans are in the future, 620 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 3: other than to say that last year, when somebody asked 621 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 3: him something about all the success you had this first 622 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 3: year in Indiana, would you be looking elsewhere? He said, 623 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 3: why would I be? Why would I want to leave 624 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:17,839 Speaker 3: an emerging superpower? So all I can tell you, Jake, 625 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 3: I'm not even gonna worry about that. I'm going to 626 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 3: enjoy what I see right now, have fun with it, 627 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 3: relation in it, and hopefully couraging that he stays here forever. 628 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 3: But if it doesn't happen that way, I'm still going 629 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,760 Speaker 3: to thank a man who has absolutely changed Indiana football. 630 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 2: It's no question. I mean, it's unbelievable. 631 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 1: And it continues with Michigan State next on the schedule. 632 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: That game Saturday three point thirty start in Bloomington and 633 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: what will be an awesome, awesome atmosphere and Don Fisher 634 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: will have the call. Of course, Don, it was an 635 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: awesome day on Saturday third ranked. Certainly enjoy it and 636 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: we look forward to listening with the Michigan State game 637 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 1: coming up in five days from now. 638 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 2: Appreciate it as always. 639 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 3: Thanks Jake, Appreciate you're having me as always. 640 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 1: All Right, Don Fisher, the voice of the Indiana Hoosiers, 641 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: we come back, there is in fact that speculation about Indiana, 642 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: and yes, we will get much more into the Colts. 643 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,240 Speaker 2: Mike Chapel going to join us in fifteen. 644 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: But for Indiana and worrying about that situation from the 645 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: football standpoint. If Indiana needs to find some peace of 646 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 1: mind in regards to their coach, need they only look 647 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 1: in the mirror? I will explain what I mean next. 648 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 1: Mike Chapel joining us about eight minutes from now. Let 649 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 1: me tell you a story that you're gonna hear a 650 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: lot about, at least for the You know, I don't 651 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: know what the timeline is going to be, and certainly 652 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,879 Speaker 1: I am other than Tyler Warren. I'm not naive into 653 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: thinking that people in Indianapolis give too much a hoot 654 00:37:55,600 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 1: about Penn State football, but it does start to become 655 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: topical for the fact of what we were just talking about. 656 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 2: I get it. 657 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: You're a purdu fan, Notre Dame fan, Butler fan, Indiana 658 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 1: State fan, Ball State fan, whatever it might be. 659 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 2: I get it. 660 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,320 Speaker 1: You're not tuning in to me today to hear about 661 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 1: Indiana football. But it is a massive story and it's incredible. 662 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: What Kurt Signetti has done is incredible and there is 663 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: a reason why when he was hired. I remember just 664 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:43,840 Speaker 1: before he came to Indiana, James Madison was ranked, you know, 665 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: they were surging up the rankings. 666 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 4: And. 667 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,399 Speaker 1: He was being interviewed and he had that bravada right 668 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 1: that just like, unapologetic, this is who we are, you 669 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 1: take it or leave it, and we're a darn good 670 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: football team and etc. And it was just like, whoa 671 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: this dude is? I mean, this is a confident dude. 672 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 1: And then he comes in of course with Indiana, I 673 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: just win Google me, and I mean he's never backed 674 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 1: down from any of it, and that bravada is exactly 675 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: what probably is needed and longed for at the Marquee 676 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: School of his home state and Penn State, Penn State. 677 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: I mean it was literally what two weeks ago, three 678 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: weeks ago when I'm watching Penn State and Oregon and 679 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,959 Speaker 1: Penn State's leading that game, and what have I said 680 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 1: on this show a billion times about Penn State every 681 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,959 Speaker 1: year with Penn State for the last like twenty years 682 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: ranked in the top five preseason start out six to zero, 683 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: big time matchup against typically it's Ohio State lead seventeen 684 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 1: to six in the fourth quarter. You get excited for 685 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 1: Penn State and then get out scored twenty one to 686 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,760 Speaker 1: nothing in the fourth quarter and lose twenty seven to seventeen. 687 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: And then the next week turn around and lose to 688 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 1: Minnesota Rents and repeat. It's been that way for twenty 689 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 1: years now. And yeah, I get it, Happy Valley and 690 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 1: one hundred and five thousand people and whiteouts and all that. 691 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 1: I get all of it. And Penn State the program 692 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:18,320 Speaker 1: itself one of the richest and most tradition rich programs 693 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 1: in college football. Joe Pah and you know Shane Conlin 694 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 1: and interceptions and knocking off Miami and Kurt Warner with 695 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 1: the c out of k and you know all of it, 696 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 1: on and on and on right, great players, great history, 697 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: and now Penn State. Because of the fact that Penn 698 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: State and its fan base and its alumni, they had 699 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: this expectation that in fact, it is still the same 700 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: Penn State, and in branding and in legacy it is, 701 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: but in wins and losses into today's player, it is not. 702 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,399 Speaker 1: And I know that Indiana fans are worried that Kurt 703 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: Signetti because he's going to be a target. He has 704 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 1: coached at three different schools in the state of Pennsylvania. 705 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 1: He grew up in the state of Pennsylvania. Now he 706 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 1: played at West Virginia, but he has coached at Indiana, Pennsylvania. 707 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 1: He's coached at Temple, He's coached at Pitt. Right, he 708 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 1: has coached and been around, you know, schools in the 709 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: state of Pennsylvania. And so if you are a penn 710 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 1: State fan, you're looking at it and you're going, this 711 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: is our Brad Stevens. One would assume I have no idea, 712 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 1: but one would assume because he grew up in the 713 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 1: state of Pennsylvania, even though Pennsylvania is a huge state, 714 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,919 Speaker 1: and maybe he grew up a Pitt or a West 715 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 1: Virginia fan versus being a penn State fan. 716 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 2: I don't know. 717 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: But you don't coach in the state of Pennsylvania at 718 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 1: that many different schools without understanding the heritage, the legacy, 719 00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 1: the empowerment of penn State football. It's just like Indiana. 720 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,320 Speaker 1: So for Indiana fans that are looking and saying, oh gosh, 721 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: I'm worried it's going to be a slam dunk that 722 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:12,280 Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti goes to Penn State, it's like Brad Stevens. 723 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:17,360 Speaker 1: Brad Stevens grew up in Indiana. Now Stevens, we know 724 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 1: grew up an Indiana basketball fan. We don't know that 725 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 1: Signetti grew up a Penn State football fan. But Stevens 726 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 1: grew up in the height of Indiana basketball under the 727 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: Bob Knight culture, went to a smaller school in the 728 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,800 Speaker 1: state of Indiana. In Signette's case, he went to West Virginia, 729 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,279 Speaker 1: which is right there bordering on Pennsylvania. Obviously, but then 730 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,799 Speaker 1: Stevens coached different school in the state of Indiana than 731 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:44,320 Speaker 1: Indiana itself. Was aware of Indiana all the time. Goes 732 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 1: and takes a job. Now, admittedly coaching and then being 733 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 1: the president of the Boston Celtics is a hill of 734 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:55,240 Speaker 1: being difference than being the coach at a upstart Indiana program, 735 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,839 Speaker 1: but nonetheless takes another job and then gets to a 736 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 1: situation where you look at it. And in the case 737 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,840 Speaker 1: of Brad Stevens and Indiana, trust me, they've tried everything 738 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,840 Speaker 1: to lure him back, and every time Stevens looked at 739 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 1: it and just simply there was always something that was 740 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,799 Speaker 1: the roadblock to him getting that gig, and part of 741 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,800 Speaker 1: that roadblock is, to be honest with you, the culture 742 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,840 Speaker 1: and expectation of Indiana basketball that is almost impossible to 743 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 1: meet for anybody. There's a reason why if you look 744 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: at Indiana basketball, there's a reason why. Who was the 745 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 1: last India I ask you this, since Bob Knight left Indiana, 746 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 1: who was the last coach that Indiana hired that was 747 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 1: their first choice or even their second? And for Penn 748 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 1: State football, I think Kurt Signetti looks at it the 749 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 1: exact same way. And listen, I have all the respect 750 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 1: in the world for the football wins and lost his 751 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,760 Speaker 1: tradition of Penn State. Obviously, there is the dark cloud 752 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 1: of whether or not and we'll never know what Joe 753 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 1: Paterno did or didn't know of the scandal that went 754 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 1: on at Penn State and horrible things that took place 755 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 1: within Penn State football, and whether or not that university 756 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,320 Speaker 1: and department and everything else we're aware of it. That's 757 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 1: a whole different topic. But in terms of twenty twenty 758 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,799 Speaker 1: five football and Penn State University and everything that goes 759 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 1: into it, all you need to do is look at 760 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 1: James Franklin, you go, Okay, so you look and I 761 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,320 Speaker 1: know it was twelve years in the making, but the 762 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 1: guy's been a good coach. He's had a terrible record 763 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: against top ten teams. I get that. But if you're 764 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti, why would you leave Indiana? Yeah, Penn State 765 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 1: might pay you fifteen million. Indiana can pony up and 766 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 1: give you that money. I can promise you that, and 767 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,840 Speaker 1: Indiana would be willing to do so. I can promise 768 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,919 Speaker 1: you that. And right now with what he has going 769 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,479 Speaker 1: at Indiana, he's ranked in the top five right now 770 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,719 Speaker 1: at Indiana, why take on the additional pressure, the additional expectation, 771 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 1: the additional immediate hot seat at Penn State When you've 772 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 1: got it here at Indiana you got it pretty good, 773 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 1: and he's got it rolling. And I think when it 774 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 1: comes down to it, Signetti can look at home and 775 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 1: home is home, realize that. But he's gonna assess and 776 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,360 Speaker 1: analyze all of it and say, you know what, why 777 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 1: not Indiana get me the T shirt? Why not Indiana? 778 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay here. And I think that's what he's 779 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,920 Speaker 1: going to do because I think he looks at it 780 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 1: and his total accomplishment in his mind is not going 781 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,239 Speaker 1: to be going and winning a national title at a 782 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 1: place where that is the expectation, but rather chasing one 783 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 1: at a place where that was thought to be impossible, 784 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 1: and that would be the ultimate ultimate feat. Mike Chappell 785 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 1: talking Colts next. Back here on a Monday, and somebody 786 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 1: actually said it best I thought in terms of the 787 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 1: theme for today, this text that was sent to me, 788 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:43,719 Speaker 1: and it's totally true, says Jake. The theme of the 789 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 1: day should be but they are. I U should not 790 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,359 Speaker 1: be good and ranked third in college football, but they are. 791 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 1: The Colts should not be the number one seed in 792 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:52,759 Speaker 1: the AFC, but they are. 793 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 3: Now. 794 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,760 Speaker 1: I'll tell you who does not fall into that category, 795 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,440 Speaker 1: because they absolutely should be and were expected to be. 796 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,280 Speaker 1: But do we happen to have CORP the breaking news sounder. 797 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,799 Speaker 1: If you could please, Rob Blackman will join us coming 798 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,759 Speaker 1: up a little over an hour from now. He is 799 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 1: the voice of the preseason number one team in the land. 800 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:13,880 Speaker 1: The Purdue boiler Makers are your college basketball preseason number one. 801 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 1: As for number one in the AFC, I mentioned it, 802 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 1: it is the Indianapolis Colts at five and one. After 803 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,719 Speaker 1: yesterday's went over the Arizona Cardinals, joining us now as 804 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 1: he does each and every Monday from CBS four and 805 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 1: WXA and Fox fifty nine. And by the way, kudos 806 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:32,279 Speaker 1: in particular to Fox fifty nine and Russ McQuaid yesterday. 807 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,360 Speaker 1: I believe they might have been the only media outlet 808 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 1: that had the wherewithal to be in position to interview 809 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez yesterday. And they have been on top of 810 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 1: that story from day one, and that television station has 811 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 1: been all over that. Mike Chapple, the dean of writers 812 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: for the Colts, joining us now on the Java House, 813 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 1: Peel and Poor guest Line and Chap Colts the number 814 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:58,719 Speaker 1: one seed overall. Yesterday was a game that I thought 815 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,239 Speaker 1: the Colts did, Mike, what you expect good teams to do, 816 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,239 Speaker 1: and that is you just find a way to win. 817 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 1: You know, Jacoby Brissett was efficient for Arizona, but in 818 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,920 Speaker 1: the end, the Colts did what they needed to do 819 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 1: to win. My question for you would be this, are 820 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 1: we going to eventually have to address or discuss any 821 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,440 Speaker 1: vulnerabilities defensively for Indianapolis? 822 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:28,319 Speaker 4: Oh, and we have. Their pass rush hasn't been good enough. 823 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 4: They're not getting enough from law to and and Quitty 824 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:36,440 Speaker 4: pay quid. He had two sacks festerday. But the linebackers 825 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:42,719 Speaker 4: are are are good at tackling their liabilities in in coverage, 826 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:48,840 Speaker 4: which which Zaire Franklin he's really really effective. He was 827 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,879 Speaker 4: all proh W. He's allowed to do what he does 828 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 4: and when you've got to do more things, not so 829 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 4: much the secondary. It's it's I understand people bitch at 830 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,240 Speaker 4: the moment, and I do. We're up in the press 831 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 4: box just making comments, but they're playing people who wouldn't 832 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:11,040 Speaker 4: be playing that. These guys are like and they're they're 833 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,080 Speaker 4: playing their butts off and all this, but but they're 834 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:18,640 Speaker 4: like your sixth or seventh corners. They just are you know, 835 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 4: I mentioned all these guy or I wrote in the 836 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,440 Speaker 4: story today of all the people that are out with 837 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,319 Speaker 4: Kenny Moore and Jalan Jones and Justin Wadeley. I forgot 838 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,800 Speaker 4: Mike Hilton. Hilton, you know he's out, so you know, 839 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 4: and and I don't want to be a battle of apologist. 840 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:38,760 Speaker 4: I don't, But there is no way that any GM 841 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:44,759 Speaker 4: can provide this the level of depth that covers up 842 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 4: these injuries. Can't do it. And then and then you 843 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:51,080 Speaker 4: lose Mooney Ward for Kranat laud. It's when I saw 844 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:55,320 Speaker 4: the video of he and Drew Ogletree colliding. I flash 845 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 4: back to that. It's like a comedy thing where you 846 00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 4: got two ships in the ocean, in this big ocean 847 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 4: and they ran into each other. That just told you 848 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,400 Speaker 4: how it was going to be difficult because Mooney war 849 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,360 Speaker 4: was going to be on Marv Junior, who ended up 850 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 4: getting hurt. But when you lose arguably your top defensive 851 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:20,200 Speaker 4: player in pregame warm ups, now imagine the scrambling that 852 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:24,279 Speaker 4: goes on. So we've talked about it, and part of 853 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:28,040 Speaker 4: its injury related the linebacker, in my mind is because 854 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,920 Speaker 4: as I said, there were like eight things on the 855 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 4: list to do in the off season, and linebackwards one 856 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 4: of them, and that's the one that they can get to. Well, 857 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,640 Speaker 4: I'm glad they got to the other seven and this 858 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 4: is the one they did can get to. But the 859 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:47,839 Speaker 4: pass rush bothers me because it's just not it's not consistent. 860 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,680 Speaker 4: Brissett just had too much time. Too many times he 861 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,880 Speaker 4: escaped a couple of times. Quarterbacks do that, but that 862 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 4: should have been a quarterback that you really smoked, and 863 00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,600 Speaker 4: they didn't. And they're just not getting enough from the 864 00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,319 Speaker 4: edge Samson that become I'm not getting on him. He's 865 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,399 Speaker 4: coming back from an Achilles, for crying out loud. But 866 00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,799 Speaker 4: you need you need more from your two first round 867 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,919 Speaker 4: draft picks, and yeah, pressures and this, that and the other. 868 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 4: I give me some sacks. These guys get paid for sacks. 869 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,440 Speaker 4: They do. They need more from it, and it's I 870 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,960 Speaker 4: think a lot too is a great athlete, and he 871 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,960 Speaker 4: may end up being a really really exceptional player after 872 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,920 Speaker 4: six weeks. I don't want him having more interceptions in sacks. 873 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:31,560 Speaker 4: I just don't think that's a good thing. 874 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,239 Speaker 1: Chap When you look at Mike Chapel is our guest, 875 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,120 Speaker 1: he's on the Joba house peeling poor guest line. When 876 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 1: you look at the lineback, like if you look defensively 877 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,919 Speaker 1: yesterday in general, they were let in tackles by Jermaine Pratt, 878 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,319 Speaker 1: who had a you know, was an efficient day for him, 879 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,520 Speaker 1: but he also was a guy that was just acquired. 880 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,440 Speaker 1: Is that more so saying hey, what a great signing, 881 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:55,120 Speaker 1: or is that more so saying that's problematic and it 882 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,800 Speaker 1: shows weakness elsewhere. 883 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:02,200 Speaker 4: The ladder the ladder, because remember and keep in mind, 884 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,960 Speaker 4: and this isn't throw shade on Jermaine Pratty. He had 885 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,839 Speaker 4: eleven tackles for crying out that with like three practices 886 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 4: they had a chance to sign him when the Bengals 887 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 4: cut him whenever, it was six weeks ago or whatever. 888 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,960 Speaker 4: And the money I think was probably a little too steep. 889 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,160 Speaker 4: It was like four million dollars guaranteed whatever. And they 890 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 4: and as as Chris and Shane liked to do that, 891 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,920 Speaker 4: they really wanted to see more from their own guys. 892 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,799 Speaker 4: They did. They really, they really believe on they're in 893 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 4: their own guys. Uh but in this case it hasn't 894 00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:39,399 Speaker 4: worked out, and they're just susceptible to the coverage. They 895 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,880 Speaker 4: just they just are. And uh So there again, what 896 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:48,279 Speaker 4: you're playing guys in positions or number of reps who 897 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 4: normally shouldn't be doing that. And again that's how it 898 00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,840 Speaker 4: was in the secondary with Jonathan Edwards, an unreppied rookie, 899 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,680 Speaker 4: and Chrys Labans who spent a lot of time on 900 00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 4: the practice squad, and and Michael or Mackaya Blackman who 901 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:09,000 Speaker 4: was acquired in a trade early. So it's when you 902 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 4: had that it makes it tough and then it makes 903 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,200 Speaker 4: things worse on the secondary when you're not pressured to quarterback, 904 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,560 Speaker 4: so it was just, yes, they found a way. That's 905 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,560 Speaker 4: that's the best way to do any I know people 906 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,480 Speaker 4: are saying, with God, look who they've beaten. Well you 907 00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,360 Speaker 4: be who you play. Yeah, they should have beaten the 908 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,520 Speaker 4: Rams and they should have lost at Denver, so things 909 00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:32,239 Speaker 4: even out. But that's why I was watching some of 910 00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,320 Speaker 4: the national shows today and they still Pitty Brewski doesn't 911 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,640 Speaker 4: believe in these guys at all. Maybe that's a little 912 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:41,279 Speaker 4: bit of the New England ring. I don't think this 913 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,719 Speaker 4: is a super Bowl contender as it as it is, 914 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,640 Speaker 4: but once you get in, who knows. But I think 915 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,160 Speaker 4: it's I think it's a team that could do something 916 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,080 Speaker 4: in the playoffs, whatever something is, you know. But right 917 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,279 Speaker 4: now they're first in the FC South, which is which 918 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,480 Speaker 4: is step one. It is step one to getting a 919 00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:01,160 Speaker 4: home game and getting in and then we'll see. And 920 00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,719 Speaker 4: the way the rest of the AFC has sort of 921 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 4: just sort of floundered outside of Buffalo and Kansasity is 922 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 4: apparently getting itself back together. In the Chargers, you just 923 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:16,480 Speaker 4: don't know what's there. Miami's is a dumpster fire New 924 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,440 Speaker 4: England maybe, but it's right there for them to be 925 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,960 Speaker 4: in the thicket of it all the way. The schedule 926 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 4: gets tougher later on. But that's why we've all talked 927 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,279 Speaker 4: about this first part of the season. Going into the 928 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,719 Speaker 4: game in bertole In with Atlanta. Holy smokes, you've got 929 00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:37,359 Speaker 4: a chance to set yourself up for something whatever that's 930 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,080 Speaker 4: something is, and that's what they're doing. 931 00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:43,560 Speaker 1: Chap this is and maybe you know, I was gonna say, 932 00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,600 Speaker 1: maybe it's not time for this conversation, but I don't 933 00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,600 Speaker 1: know that there's ever you know, a good time, bad 934 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 1: time when it comes talking colts, right, I mean, the 935 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,640 Speaker 1: reality is this, we should celebrate what this team is 936 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,319 Speaker 1: doing there five and one. Daniel Jones has just been exceptional. 937 00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,680 Speaker 1: I thought yesterday he showed a lot by you know, 938 00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,640 Speaker 1: when there are a lot of quarterbacks that if they 939 00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,480 Speaker 1: throw a pick or a pick six, they will you know, 940 00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:09,040 Speaker 1: he continues to respond, But I'm curious, and I know 941 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,759 Speaker 1: that it's it's not his fault at times, it's just 942 00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:19,080 Speaker 1: not But is the Anthony Richardson contractual question starting to 943 00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,560 Speaker 1: answer itself just based on the fact that, as I 944 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:26,040 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, he seems to be a magnet to the 945 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,400 Speaker 1: bizarre and to the unfortunate. 946 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:30,440 Speaker 4: And that's sad. 947 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:31,399 Speaker 2: It is. 948 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 1: But I mean, but at the same time, don't you again, 949 00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,359 Speaker 1: it's not his fault at all. Right, I mean, it's 950 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,839 Speaker 1: a totally bizarre fluke thing. But if I said to you, 951 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,520 Speaker 1: if I stopped, if I literally walked into Lucas Oil 952 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,080 Speaker 1: Stadium yesterday an hour before the game, before any news 953 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 1: had come out, and said, folks, I'm taking a survey. 954 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,360 Speaker 1: A player just had an orbital bone fracture because a 955 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,080 Speaker 1: rubber band during stretching snapped and came back and hit 956 00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:58,040 Speaker 1: him right in the eye. 957 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,200 Speaker 2: Who is at who? Out of one hundre? People would say, 958 00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:02,360 Speaker 2: what's got to be Anthoney Richardson? 959 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,920 Speaker 4: Right, I know, I know, and that's too bad. But 960 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,920 Speaker 4: but aside from that, take take take that out of 961 00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 4: the mix. I I I was I was wrong. I'll say, 962 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,880 Speaker 4: I'll say I was wrong. I would have gone with 963 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,120 Speaker 4: Richardson coming out of training camp. I really would have, 964 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:21,120 Speaker 4: because I my my, my pea brain thought, they've got 965 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,360 Speaker 4: to figure out what they have at the end of 966 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:28,120 Speaker 4: the season. They've got to know what they have in Richardson. Well, 967 00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,520 Speaker 4: in my mind, as it turns out, they knew what 968 00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 4: they had, whether it was at the end of last season, 969 00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,160 Speaker 4: whether it was some March day when Shane Steichen was 970 00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:41,080 Speaker 4: having a brew in the back porch, they decided. He 971 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:47,760 Speaker 4: decided that Jones, for so many reasons, was the right guy. 972 00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,880 Speaker 4: This is before practices and all that stuff, and that 973 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:55,120 Speaker 4: Richardson wasn't. So you know, I I I think if 974 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:59,440 Speaker 4: this thing continues the way it is and and there 975 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:04,040 Speaker 4: knocking on the playoff door or the division title, whatever, boy, 976 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:05,839 Speaker 4: I think they find a way to go forward with 977 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:10,000 Speaker 4: rich with Jones, and they find a way to move Richardson. 978 00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,480 Speaker 4: I just I just don't see any pass forward for 979 00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:16,200 Speaker 4: Richardson here unless Jones gets hurt in the next couple 980 00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,880 Speaker 4: of weeks and and and Richardson's you know, eye injuries. 981 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,880 Speaker 2: Okay, well he's unavailable. I mean, Chap, do you remember, 982 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,440 Speaker 2: as I say, yeah, I mean, do you remember when 983 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,080 Speaker 2: Reggie Miller and I'm going back. 984 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,400 Speaker 1: Thirty years ago, I realized, yes, yes, but Reggie Miller 985 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,480 Speaker 1: had a similar injury. Now one was listed as a 986 00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,799 Speaker 1: break and one as a fracture. I you know, I mean, 987 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,120 Speaker 1: I'll get Ralph Reefon at some point this week to 988 00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:39,920 Speaker 1: kind of verify or go through that. 989 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,960 Speaker 2: But but you know, that injury kept Reggie Miller out 990 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,160 Speaker 2: for a while. I mean, this is in and you 991 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:45,840 Speaker 2: feel bad for. 992 00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,120 Speaker 4: Him, right, I think this keeps Richardson out for two 993 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,920 Speaker 4: or three weeks minimum, correct, because you know, keep in mind, 994 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:56,320 Speaker 4: and when you're playing, when you're practicing, you're you're jarring 995 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 4: the body and your eyes and all this. And that's 996 00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,200 Speaker 4: just got it that that can't be even remotely good 997 00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,680 Speaker 4: for a healing orbit wone fracture. It can be so 998 00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,680 Speaker 4: I and I just posted some today. I think they're 999 00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,680 Speaker 4: going to look for a veteran. And it's not shade 1000 00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,719 Speaker 4: on Riley Leonard at all, but he was a sixth 1001 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:19,360 Speaker 4: round pick, a developmental guy. Has done everything right so far. 1002 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,400 Speaker 4: But are you going to put a five and one 1003 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:27,360 Speaker 4: team that can do some things in the hands of 1004 00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,480 Speaker 4: a six round draft pick? Now, you're going to try 1005 00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:34,160 Speaker 4: to find somebody who, as a veteran, has played, knows 1006 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,439 Speaker 4: what's going on, has no clue what your offensive. That's 1007 00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:41,000 Speaker 4: the downside. Took him in stone cold, that worked on 1008 00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,600 Speaker 4: I mean Joe Flacco did that. Maybe if this happened 1009 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,200 Speaker 4: last week, you make a trade with Cleveland and bring 1010 00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,080 Speaker 4: Joe back here. I don't know, but I looked at 1011 00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:53,360 Speaker 4: the list of available quarterbacks and it's not even oh 1012 00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,800 Speaker 4: really that guy. No, there's none of those guys. So 1013 00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,560 Speaker 4: but I do think they'll do that, and just to 1014 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:04,200 Speaker 4: be safe, because I didn't notice that Jones is only 1015 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,600 Speaker 4: there's only been one season he's not missed a game 1016 00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,680 Speaker 4: with an injury, and that was in twenty twenty two, 1017 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,600 Speaker 4: so you know, he he he tends to get hurt, 1018 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,880 Speaker 4: like quarterbacks do, and they've got to have somebody who 1019 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:22,200 Speaker 4: can step in and at least run things competently, if 1020 00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:23,960 Speaker 4: that's the right word. I don't know if if they 1021 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,520 Speaker 4: can even do that on short notice, but I do 1022 00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,560 Speaker 4: think they'll have tryouts tomorrow. And I think while I 1023 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,080 Speaker 4: was signing on Wednesday or two day, I just do. 1024 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:35,720 Speaker 1: You know, Chap, here's what's interesting to me about the 1025 00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:39,520 Speaker 1: quarterback position. Mike Chapel is our guest. I'm going to 1026 00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,080 Speaker 1: go back to one of my really bad analogies here. Okay, 1027 00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:47,640 Speaker 1: chap I have never trumble trouble this being I have 1028 00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:51,320 Speaker 1: a ton of my real Yeah, okay, I have my 1029 00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:55,720 Speaker 1: entire life. Academically speaking, I couldn't I couldn't get algebra. 1030 00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,600 Speaker 1: I just couldn't grasp algebra. That's true of most of 1031 00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:00,919 Speaker 1: us that are in the broadcast feshion, by the way, 1032 00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:07,080 Speaker 1: but that's exactly right. But in order to grasp algebra, 1033 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:12,920 Speaker 1: you first have to understand the basics of math, long division, multiplication, 1034 00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:16,600 Speaker 1: and then they all interweave to become algebraic formula. If 1035 00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,800 Speaker 1: you don't know the basic steps of math, then you're 1036 00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:21,000 Speaker 1: never going to get algebra. 1037 00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:22,920 Speaker 2: Okay. 1038 00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,760 Speaker 1: It seems to me like in the in the offensive scheme, 1039 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,680 Speaker 1: the Colts right now are doing offensively things that we 1040 00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,240 Speaker 1: have not seen in this town with this franchise, some 1041 00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:36,120 Speaker 1: of it forever. But they are leading the league in scoring, 1042 00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,400 Speaker 1: They are efficient, they are working it in so many 1043 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:44,000 Speaker 1: different ways, and Anthony Richardson was capable occasionally of the 1044 00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,040 Speaker 1: big algebraic type fancy play of like how in the 1045 00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:50,040 Speaker 1: world did that just happen, But for the most part 1046 00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:54,880 Speaker 1: it was the basic fundamental that was eluding him. And 1047 00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:58,800 Speaker 1: it feels to me like the reason the Colts offensively 1048 00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:03,600 Speaker 1: are where they are is because Daniel Jones mastered long 1049 01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:08,760 Speaker 1: division and multiplication, and that then allows Shane Stikeen to 1050 01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,960 Speaker 1: occasionally pop in the algebraic formula to keep people guessing 1051 01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,400 Speaker 1: but you had to start with the basics. And I 1052 01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,320 Speaker 1: think we all were looking at which quarterback was going 1053 01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,520 Speaker 1: to be the big play guy, and Stikeen went with 1054 01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:26,240 Speaker 1: the guy that actually was the basic guy because that's 1055 01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,160 Speaker 1: the foundation he wanted to build off of. Does that 1056 01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:29,880 Speaker 1: make any sense? 1057 01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:33,000 Speaker 4: And yes, and still giving you some big place. 1058 01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,320 Speaker 2: That's what I mean. They can mix that in now 1059 01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:36,760 Speaker 2: right right. 1060 01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,760 Speaker 4: It's kind of like when you're in school and in 1061 01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,160 Speaker 4: your head you can figure out what the answer was, 1062 01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:45,160 Speaker 4: so you put down thirty one. Well, they want to 1063 01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,280 Speaker 4: know why you get to thirty one, And sometimes I 1064 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,120 Speaker 4: couldn't do it. In my head, I can tell you 1065 01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,760 Speaker 4: how I got to it, right, So yeah, I think 1066 01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,560 Speaker 4: I think you're right. And that's why I say when 1067 01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:58,320 Speaker 4: I didn't agree with what Shane Styken did it and 1068 01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,240 Speaker 4: when and when he kept blaming it and he told us, 1069 01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:05,400 Speaker 4: he flat told us idiots, well it it's the free stamp, 1070 01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:10,400 Speaker 4: it's operations, it's finding completions and all that stuff. And 1071 01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,040 Speaker 4: he was telling us in some of our guys, some 1072 01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,360 Speaker 4: of the press guys got it understood, and I was 1073 01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,280 Speaker 4: I was that dune from the back room thinking, but 1074 01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,920 Speaker 4: in it I was looking more long term and he 1075 01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,160 Speaker 4: was looking short term. And again Chris Baller told us 1076 01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:27,760 Speaker 4: this said where it was January, We're gonna bring another veteran, 1077 01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:32,080 Speaker 4: and well, does Anthony Richardson have the leg up? We're 1078 01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:35,200 Speaker 4: gonna go with the guy that that helps us win games? 1079 01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:36,480 Speaker 2: Does that okay? 1080 01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:40,880 Speaker 1: Does this make it chap in the event, let's say 1081 01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:42,920 Speaker 1: they go out and they sign now and off the 1082 01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,960 Speaker 1: beach veteran quarterback to be the backup because Anthony Richardson 1083 01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:50,760 Speaker 1: is unavailable, does this allow for them perhaps to have 1084 01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,600 Speaker 1: in the event, God forbid, you've got to go to 1085 01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:57,520 Speaker 1: that and play that player. Does the the fact that 1086 01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:01,560 Speaker 1: the offense is rooted in simplicity make it easier to 1087 01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,440 Speaker 1: transfer to a veteran quarterback if you need one to 1088 01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:05,600 Speaker 1: spell you for a game or two. 1089 01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,560 Speaker 4: Well, I'd still rather have Anthony Richardson running my offense. 1090 01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:13,040 Speaker 4: If if in three weeks he's ready to go and 1091 01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,000 Speaker 4: God forbid, Daniel Jones gets hurt. I flipped back to 1092 01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:17,520 Speaker 4: Richardson in a heartbeat. 1093 01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:20,600 Speaker 1: Well, I know I'm saying, if Richardson's unavailable and you've 1094 01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,640 Speaker 1: got to go out and sign whoever, no question, is 1095 01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,320 Speaker 1: there not as big a drop off in the cohesiveness 1096 01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:27,280 Speaker 1: as we think. 1097 01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,120 Speaker 4: Probably because again you're gonna you're gonna then you're really 1098 01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:36,360 Speaker 4: gonna transition more to the people around the quarterback. Although 1099 01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,600 Speaker 4: it's gonna be harder to run the ball with Taylor 1100 01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:41,560 Speaker 4: when everybody knows that's what you're gonna try to do 1101 01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:43,800 Speaker 4: even more than you are now because I'm still waiting 1102 01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,320 Speaker 4: for he's leading the league in rushing and I'm still 1103 01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:49,040 Speaker 4: waiting for his big game. I'm just still waiting for 1104 01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:53,000 Speaker 4: him to break out and just go bonkers. But but yeah, 1105 01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,520 Speaker 4: the guy to bring in, whoever it is, it'll be 1106 01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:58,760 Speaker 4: as someone who can run, run the basics and not 1107 01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:03,720 Speaker 4: get squarely. And like a perfect example is second half. 1108 01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,840 Speaker 4: They it was a it was a twenty two yard 1109 01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:09,200 Speaker 4: throat to Pierce on the left side that somehow got there, 1110 01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:15,560 Speaker 4: somehow got there through three three defenders. And Steichen was 1111 01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,080 Speaker 4: telling us that during the week that he was talking 1112 01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,960 Speaker 4: to Jones, and Jones said, you know, if if we 1113 01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:24,360 Speaker 4: call this play, which that play and it was supposed 1114 01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,240 Speaker 4: to go to the right side, and he said, I 1115 01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,600 Speaker 4: tell you, if they give us this look on defense, 1116 01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,200 Speaker 4: I'm going to whip around and come back to Pierce. 1117 01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,840 Speaker 4: And he told Pierce, now listen, if I see that, 1118 01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,240 Speaker 4: be ready because it's coming to you. And that's what 1119 01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:40,000 Speaker 4: he did, and that that's where he's playing chess. And 1120 01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:44,200 Speaker 4: maybe other quarterbacks can't do that, but that just shows 1121 01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,560 Speaker 4: you that this, you know, you always hear about guys 1122 01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:48,720 Speaker 4: at first of him last out and doing the homework, 1123 01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:53,400 Speaker 4: and we've heard countless story about that's Jones. It's Manning 1124 01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:55,960 Speaker 4: esque and Luck ask of what of what they're doing? 1125 01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:59,320 Speaker 4: It was funny. Zach Keifer was at the game. I 1126 01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:02,080 Speaker 4: was getting on him for being a bandwagon jumper coming 1127 01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:05,280 Speaker 4: in in week six when they're winning, but he asked 1128 01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,000 Speaker 4: Jones about you know, what do you do? 1129 01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:07,240 Speaker 3: You know? 1130 01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:08,560 Speaker 4: Are you you know, are you one of those guys 1131 01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:10,600 Speaker 4: that you know you're locked in once the season starts? 1132 01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,600 Speaker 4: He said, do you have any hobbies? And he sort 1133 01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:16,640 Speaker 4: of said no. He said, most guys don't have hobbies 1134 01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:20,360 Speaker 4: during during the season because because you're working, and when 1135 01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,400 Speaker 4: you're at the office and you're working, you go home 1136 01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:27,000 Speaker 4: and you spend time at night. So that that's what 1137 01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:30,720 Speaker 4: you want. It's it's not you know, glamorous and all 1138 01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:34,280 Speaker 4: this when when remember Manning's the Manning Cave and all 1139 01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,280 Speaker 4: that there's so much truth well. 1140 01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:40,840 Speaker 1: That hey, listen, I mentioned this earlier and I I 1141 01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:42,680 Speaker 1: you know, I could pull up the direct quotes, but 1142 01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:47,280 Speaker 1: to paraphrase it, Tua down in Miami, you know, after 1143 01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:50,680 Speaker 1: the Dolphins season has gone awry, he finally just said 1144 01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:52,200 Speaker 1: the quiet part out loud. It was like, look, we 1145 01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,160 Speaker 1: got guys that are not showing up for meetings, we 1146 01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,800 Speaker 1: got guys that are late. It's got to be across 1147 01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,560 Speaker 1: the board, et cetera. And this is the quarterback calling 1148 01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:02,840 Speaker 1: out the right for not being on time. And maybe 1149 01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:06,440 Speaker 1: it's too late or too late in this case, but 1150 01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:10,200 Speaker 1: the point being, that's the stuff you're talking about, right, 1151 01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:14,160 Speaker 1: You need that example at the very front of guys 1152 01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,760 Speaker 1: falling in line. And it appears as though with this 1153 01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,480 Speaker 1: roster that's the case. Now, let me ask you this. 1154 01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:23,680 Speaker 1: Yesterday there were a number of players that caught passes 1155 01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:27,760 Speaker 1: from Daniel Jones. Ady Mitchell was a scratch at the 1156 01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:31,600 Speaker 1: beginning of the year. Is this a continuation of the 1157 01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:35,320 Speaker 1: discipline or are we starting to see the beginning of 1158 01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:36,040 Speaker 1: the end. 1159 01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:40,200 Speaker 4: No, well, it's two things, not those two things, but 1160 01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:45,560 Speaker 4: it's it's it's say, an extension of the discipline if 1161 01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:48,160 Speaker 4: you want to call it that. But it's also a 1162 01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:51,000 Speaker 4: reflection that Alec Pierce was active again. 1163 01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,880 Speaker 1: Well, I understand, but I mean, you know, Mitchell's been 1164 01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:57,439 Speaker 1: on the field in games were you know, Alec Pierce 1165 01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,200 Speaker 1: hadn't been heard all year, and there were games where 1166 01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:00,480 Speaker 1: Alec Pierce was but. 1167 01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:03,360 Speaker 4: But but but but when when Pierce was out there 1168 01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:05,240 Speaker 4: and Mitchell was out there, they really had to find 1169 01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,560 Speaker 4: ways to get Mitchell on the field. One game, he 1170 01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,800 Speaker 4: was on there for like nine stamps because Pierce, Pierce, 1171 01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:12,960 Speaker 4: Hardy comes off the field. He and Pittman are out 1172 01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:16,600 Speaker 4: there all the time. So, uh, no, I I think 1173 01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:20,800 Speaker 4: it was They're not They're not even remotely ready to 1174 01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:25,000 Speaker 4: give up on Adi Mitchell. He's got so much talent. 1175 01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:27,680 Speaker 4: He's just but at some point, at some point though, 1176 01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:28,760 Speaker 4: it's like. 1177 01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:31,000 Speaker 2: Come on, yeah, I see it at some point right 1178 01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:33,080 Speaker 2: like he has that like we've been. 1179 01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:35,560 Speaker 4: But you see just enough of it the way you 1180 01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:39,440 Speaker 4: think you know, maybe, but it's it's the mess up 1181 01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:42,160 Speaker 4: since you just had. At some point, the mess ups 1182 01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:47,040 Speaker 4: overcome or outweigh the talent. We're not there remotely. I've 1183 01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:50,560 Speaker 4: talked to Reggie enough to to know that he believes 1184 01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:54,040 Speaker 4: in Mitchell, but he also understands, you know, this is 1185 01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:57,960 Speaker 4: the bottom line game. Uh so, so I we were 1186 01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,600 Speaker 4: talking in the press room, and I really wonder that 1187 01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:04,680 Speaker 4: barring injury, although guys get injured, but if Pierce, Pittman 1188 01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:08,320 Speaker 4: and Down stay healthy, I don't know when Mitchell gets 1189 01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:14,360 Speaker 4: back on the field, I don't know. And and also 1190 01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,560 Speaker 4: the problem is he doesn't play special teams at all. 1191 01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:19,800 Speaker 4: He's never played a special team snap. So to have 1192 01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:22,160 Speaker 4: a guy on your roster when when roster spots are 1193 01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:25,800 Speaker 4: so precious on game day, and with the idea that well, 1194 01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:27,800 Speaker 4: and let's say, I guess there, this guy's not playing 1195 01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:31,240 Speaker 4: like your emergency, your backup quarterback. There's two guys aren't 1196 01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:36,360 Speaker 4: going to play. So but but I my interesting thing 1197 01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:39,680 Speaker 4: I'd like to know, and we won't know except later on, 1198 01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:43,760 Speaker 4: is will he will Will Mitchell use this uh being 1199 01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:47,880 Speaker 4: a healthy scratch as motivation like, Hey, guys, I belong 1200 01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:51,560 Speaker 4: on this team. I deserve it? Or that does he 1201 01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:56,720 Speaker 4: does he pout? And and and that's I think that's 1202 01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,320 Speaker 4: a very valid question. I don't think Reggie will allow 1203 01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:03,200 Speaker 4: the he's too much of a test master. I think 1204 01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:08,160 Speaker 4: he's a player's coach. But he's also demanding. So that's 1205 01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:09,840 Speaker 4: an that's such an interesting one thing. 1206 01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:12,160 Speaker 1: I mean, my point being, no matter you know, the 1207 01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:15,320 Speaker 1: guy could be Usain Bolt, Carl Lewis and Edwin Moses 1208 01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,680 Speaker 1: all wrapped into one with Jerry Rice's hands. But if 1209 01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:19,479 Speaker 1: he is buried on the depth chart to the point 1210 01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:21,960 Speaker 1: where he is a healthy scratch midway, you know, at 1211 01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:24,200 Speaker 1: some point you got to say, okay, then then when 1212 01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:24,800 Speaker 1: is it gonna come? 1213 01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:25,519 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 1214 01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:29,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's and we're down that we're way I think 1215 01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:31,479 Speaker 4: we're way far away from that. But the whole thing 1216 01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:34,160 Speaker 4: is it's a matter of trust. Good old Billy Joelson, 1217 01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:38,360 Speaker 4: it's a matter of trust when the coach and in 1218 01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:41,280 Speaker 4: the quarterback, when do you because they'll say the right things. 1219 01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:43,000 Speaker 4: We trust him. He's working hard on all this. But 1220 01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:46,240 Speaker 4: Peyton Manning said, you earn your catches on Sunday by 1221 01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:49,559 Speaker 4: what you do in practice. It's a quarterback doesn't doesn't 1222 01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:51,680 Speaker 4: trust you. Although this would be a case said you 1223 01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:54,360 Speaker 4: don't trust what he does during the game. But if 1224 01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:56,519 Speaker 4: if a quarterback doesn't trust you, if a coach doesn't 1225 01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:59,400 Speaker 4: trust it's a quarterinat doesn't trust you, then how do 1226 01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:01,400 Speaker 4: you get back on the field barring injury, and I 1227 01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:06,160 Speaker 4: don't I don't see that path right now. But now, 1228 01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:09,000 Speaker 4: will he be inactive the rest the last eleven games? 1229 01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:12,559 Speaker 4: I would say no, just because again, guys get hurt. 1230 01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:16,280 Speaker 4: But I tell you they played those three receivers almost 1231 01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:19,599 Speaker 4: exclusively yesterday. Aston Doodle was on the field for as 1232 01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:25,800 Speaker 4: many defensive plays one as offensive plays one. So they go, 1233 01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:29,519 Speaker 4: they're using two tight ends a lot. Of course, Tyler 1234 01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,000 Speaker 4: Warren's sort of almost a receiver. 1235 01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:35,840 Speaker 2: He's whatever they want to, you know what I mean. 1236 01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:40,559 Speaker 4: He's to watch compairing to Dallas Clark, but he does 1237 01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:43,240 Speaker 4: more than Dallas Clark. He just does. God love him. 1238 01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:48,240 Speaker 4: Dallas Clark didn't block like this. This Tyler Warren is 1239 01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:52,280 Speaker 4: a combination of Jack Doyle and Dallas Clark. You watch 1240 01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:55,320 Speaker 4: some of those runs from Taylor and he does Jack 1241 01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:58,479 Speaker 4: Doyle things in the line where he's smacking guys around 1242 01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,519 Speaker 4: h And there's still I'm sure there's still more of 1243 01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:06,720 Speaker 4: what they can do. But that when you talk to 1244 01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:09,479 Speaker 4: talk to Reggie sometimes and he says, you know, he's 1245 01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:14,200 Speaker 4: taking away some some targets from my receivers, which is 1246 01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:17,200 Speaker 4: a good thing. It really is. It should open things up. 1247 01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:20,559 Speaker 4: But those receivers better understand that there may be one 1248 01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:23,560 Speaker 4: or two targets a game that maybe they used to 1249 01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:25,960 Speaker 4: get it goes the to the young tight end. 1250 01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:29,599 Speaker 1: Now Tyler Warren is again he's one of the key 1251 01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:31,639 Speaker 1: cogs that kind of makes everything float. 1252 01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:32,200 Speaker 2: Off of that. 1253 01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:35,640 Speaker 1: There was another player another play that I thought had 1254 01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:38,559 Speaker 1: a marquee moment that was very telling about what makes 1255 01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:41,160 Speaker 1: this Colts team different. I'll get into that just a 1256 01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:44,120 Speaker 1: couple of minutes. Mike Chappell, appreciate the time. As always, 1257 01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:46,720 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next week. All right, You got 1258 01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:50,160 Speaker 1: to be well. Mike Chapel of CBS four and wxin 1259 01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:53,280 Speaker 1: Fox fifty nine on the Joba House peeling poor guest line. 1260 01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:53,599 Speaker 2: I mentioned it. 1261 01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,120 Speaker 1: There was one guy one play yesterday that I thought 1262 01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,519 Speaker 1: jumped out, and I'm like that right there, that's what 1263 01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,720 Speaker 1: makes this group a little bit different and why things 1264 01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:02,560 Speaker 1: are working. 1265 01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:03,600 Speaker 2: As they are. I will tell you that. 1266 01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:07,240 Speaker 1: And I asked your thoughts your words, and six words 1267 01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:09,559 Speaker 1: are fewer on this year's cold season. I'll read you 1268 01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:11,479 Speaker 1: some of the best of those, and we'll open up 1269 01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:13,639 Speaker 1: the phone lines as well. At two, three, nine, ten, 1270 01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:16,320 Speaker 1: seventy even Terry who wants to talk? I you will 1271 01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:19,479 Speaker 1: bring it in. It's a loaded Monday here on the fan. 1272 01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:25,040 Speaker 1: There was a key first down that the Colts got 1273 01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:30,840 Speaker 1: yesterday that I thought really kind of exemplified who and 1274 01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,120 Speaker 1: what they are in twenty twenty five. 1275 01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:36,680 Speaker 2: Not that it hasn't been the case all season. 1276 01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:41,599 Speaker 1: Or all, you know, last season in particular about this guy. 1277 01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:43,240 Speaker 1: But I'll get into that in a second. But I 1278 01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:47,800 Speaker 1: did ask yesterday give me six words or fewer to 1279 01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:50,040 Speaker 1: describe your thoughts on the Colts through the twenty twenty 1280 01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:52,160 Speaker 1: five season. I do this after each and every game, 1281 01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:56,960 Speaker 1: and some of the better answers that I received, and 1282 01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:03,559 Speaker 1: there were a ton of them that I got. Okay, 1283 01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:08,639 Speaker 1: who's your in? Kentucky? Says offensive? Super Bowl defensive, first 1284 01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:11,760 Speaker 1: overall pick. I don't know if that's six words or not. 1285 01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:15,719 Speaker 1: I didn't count him up. Tom surprisingly optimistic but readying 1286 01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:19,439 Speaker 1: for heartbreak. I think there's a lot of people that 1287 01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:27,479 Speaker 1: feel that way. Brian surprisingly fun to watch. I thought 1288 01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:30,400 Speaker 1: this was a good one from Purps one six y 1289 01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:36,080 Speaker 1: one on the ex post Twitter reclamation quarterback delivers Us Lombardy. 1290 01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:39,200 Speaker 1: That might be a little aggressive, but we shall see. 1291 01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:46,080 Speaker 1: Right this from Jason ar injuries continue. 1292 01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:47,640 Speaker 2: You do feel. 1293 01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:53,360 Speaker 1: Bad for Anthony Richardson, but he is just a magnet 1294 01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:59,240 Speaker 1: for the bizarre. Doug says, count on liking this season. 1295 01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:01,160 Speaker 1: Now that used to be for years it was count 1296 01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:06,519 Speaker 1: on losing this Sunday, count on liking this season. This 1297 01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:12,240 Speaker 1: one from Grant. We are winning the Super Bowl, Okay. 1298 01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:15,920 Speaker 1: I mean at this point they're the number one seed 1299 01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:20,880 Speaker 1: in the In the AFC, they're tied with Which is 1300 01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:24,600 Speaker 1: the bigger surprise that the Colts are tied for the 1301 01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:26,680 Speaker 1: best record in the league, or the fact that they 1302 01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:31,599 Speaker 1: are tied with Tampa. Two quarterbacks that are both getting 1303 01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:33,720 Speaker 1: second leases on life and making the most of it. 1304 01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:39,200 Speaker 1: Obviously in Baker Mayfield and what you are seeing from 1305 01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:44,720 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones and the Colts. This from Bill their defense 1306 01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:52,000 Speaker 1: is offensive. Okay, that's fair. That's fair. There was a 1307 01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:59,720 Speaker 1: play where Jonathan Taylor got loose, and in watching it, 1308 01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:02,759 Speaker 1: because I'll be honest, I had to watch the game yesterday. 1309 01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:06,040 Speaker 2: I had to go back and rewatch it. I was in. 1310 01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:09,479 Speaker 1: Denver over the weekend and so I didn't see the game. 1311 01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:12,120 Speaker 1: I was following it, and then I went back last 1312 01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:17,000 Speaker 1: night and rewatched the game. Which is a good way 1313 01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:18,840 Speaker 1: to do it, because obviously you can, I guess when 1314 01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:20,920 Speaker 1: you watch it live now in today's day, you can 1315 01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:24,240 Speaker 1: sit there and rewind and everything else. But but I 1316 01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:27,040 Speaker 1: saw one thing, and I thought, am I seeing what 1317 01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:27,679 Speaker 1: I think here? 1318 01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:31,120 Speaker 2: And I'll give Chris Ballard credit. 1319 01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:37,400 Speaker 1: Because I think that, and I'm the first to admit 1320 01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:39,759 Speaker 1: I was one of them. I was really cynical about 1321 01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:43,120 Speaker 1: Ballard and down on him at times because I thought 1322 01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:47,799 Speaker 1: he was building a football team in the wrong fashion. 1323 01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:51,920 Speaker 1: And it's almost like Chris Ballard just held onto those 1324 01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:55,880 Speaker 1: acid washed Lee jeans long enough that eventually they came 1325 01:14:55,920 --> 01:15:02,000 Speaker 1: back in style. But the narrow of the big, bruising 1326 01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:04,640 Speaker 1: offensive line and then a running back, I mean, that 1327 01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:08,200 Speaker 1: felt like such a mid eighties style of football. But 1328 01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:12,160 Speaker 1: what and Tyler Warren changes so many things. But I 1329 01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,880 Speaker 1: saw a play where they needed a first down and 1330 01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:19,200 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor had what normally would be a routine run, 1331 01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:24,000 Speaker 1: but once he started to spring and probably would have 1332 01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:29,120 Speaker 1: gotten a two or three yard game. Ahead of him 1333 01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:32,760 Speaker 1: was Quentin Nelson blazing a path four years and four 1334 01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:35,839 Speaker 1: yards in front of him, and he had one player 1335 01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:40,840 Speaker 1: to get past in order to even be able to 1336 01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:46,160 Speaker 1: then run behind Quentin Nelson, and there was an opening 1337 01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:52,719 Speaker 1: for him because Bordolini had his guy sealed off. Tyler Warren, 1338 01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:56,000 Speaker 1: who appears to just love contact, came over and then 1339 01:15:56,360 --> 01:16:01,120 Speaker 1: slid alongside Bordolini to seal off for Taylor. But there 1340 01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:06,880 Speaker 1: was one one defensive lineman for Arizona, I can't remember 1341 01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:09,880 Speaker 1: which one that was about to basically make the stop. 1342 01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:13,760 Speaker 1: It was the last barrier between Jonathan Taylor and then 1343 01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:17,200 Speaker 1: getting up behind the comfort of the running wall of 1344 01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:20,639 Speaker 1: Quentin Nelson in getting a first down, and that player, 1345 01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:23,360 Speaker 1: not to say that Taylor could not have broken that tackle, 1346 01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,559 Speaker 1: but that player was then sealed off because of a 1347 01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:29,679 Speaker 1: flash in at the last second from Michael Pittman Junior. 1348 01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:35,679 Speaker 1: Michael Pittman, who has been battling through a back injury 1349 01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:40,040 Speaker 1: a year ago, who has been durable, who I think 1350 01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:42,760 Speaker 1: that a lot of people thought that his value was 1351 01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:47,680 Speaker 1: in simply being some sort of a stretch receiver. But 1352 01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:51,599 Speaker 1: Michael Pittman Junior, amongst all of those things, giving himself 1353 01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:54,360 Speaker 1: up and sliding over and all of a sudden, this 1354 01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:59,320 Speaker 1: running play that you're seeing for Jonathan Taylor was an 1355 01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:03,599 Speaker 1: orchestra of all of these pieces coming together and knowing 1356 01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:06,599 Speaker 1: exactly where they needed to be. And it was a 1357 01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:09,960 Speaker 1: little thing that turned a little play into a bigger 1358 01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:13,599 Speaker 1: play and a chunk play that extended a drive. And 1359 01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:17,040 Speaker 1: that's kind of the Shane steichen mantra in the fact 1360 01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:21,400 Speaker 1: that in Chris Ballard as well, everything like you kind 1361 01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:25,160 Speaker 1: of start from the inside and then expanded outward. And 1362 01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:31,320 Speaker 1: that particular play, I thought, showed everybody collectively not worrying 1363 01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:34,280 Speaker 1: about who was getting the glitz, the glamour and the 1364 01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:38,120 Speaker 1: glory of that play, but rather being where they needed 1365 01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:38,320 Speaker 1: to be. 1366 01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:39,200 Speaker 2: And if one. 1367 01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:43,320 Speaker 1: Person's out of position, that play doesn't work. But everybody 1368 01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:46,160 Speaker 1: was exactly where they needed to be, and the cohesiveness 1369 01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:49,679 Speaker 1: of them all working together is what made that play 1370 01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:53,360 Speaker 1: operate and the Colts extended drive. And that's what this 1371 01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:55,920 Speaker 1: team has been all about. It's not unlike what you 1372 01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:59,920 Speaker 1: watch out of Indiana on Saturday. I mean you literally 1373 01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:05,479 Speaker 1: have in this town right now. You literally have a 1374 01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:08,920 Speaker 1: college team and a pro team that are like playing 1375 01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:13,280 Speaker 1: mirrored off one another in the same style, and just 1376 01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:15,880 Speaker 1: a collection of players that are like, my job on 1377 01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,799 Speaker 1: this play is to do this, and I'm not worried 1378 01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:21,840 Speaker 1: about like who gets the big headline on this play. 1379 01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:25,880 Speaker 1: I mentioned Indiana. Terry has been patiently waiting. We're way over, 1380 01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:28,479 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna take him anyway, patiently waiting to talk 1381 01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:29,200 Speaker 1: AYU football. 1382 01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:29,880 Speaker 2: What's up, Terry? 1383 01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:32,479 Speaker 6: Hey, Jake, thanks for taking the call. 1384 01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:35,479 Speaker 2: Thank you for your patience, by the way, and. 1385 01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:38,120 Speaker 6: Sorry for carrying an older subject into the current subject. 1386 01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:43,840 Speaker 5: But seth It truly is just unfashionable. How we can 1387 01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:47,639 Speaker 5: see where we are so much so that we don't 1388 01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:48,719 Speaker 5: really even know how to act. 1389 01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:52,320 Speaker 1: You're talking about AU right, Yeah, and that's what's funny, Terry. 1390 01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:56,240 Speaker 1: What's funny is this? Now Here's what's funny, Terry. When 1391 01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:58,080 Speaker 1: you say that, I mean I knew that because I 1392 01:18:58,080 --> 01:18:59,800 Speaker 1: can see the screen, or that you were calling in 1393 01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:03,000 Speaker 1: talk about when you call in to say, I can't 1394 01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:05,920 Speaker 1: believe we're in this position with this record for this 1395 01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:08,719 Speaker 1: football team. And whoever would have guessed that the beauty 1396 01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:10,840 Speaker 1: of it is you could have been talking about either 1397 01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:11,920 Speaker 1: one of them, the cults? 1398 01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:14,719 Speaker 2: Are I you right? But stick with IU? Go ahead? 1399 01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:16,000 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1400 01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:21,840 Speaker 5: So about three years ago it came to my to ask, 1401 01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:26,959 Speaker 5: or to my awareness, that of i U's history with losses, 1402 01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:31,240 Speaker 5: you think and so I called in to give you 1403 01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:35,400 Speaker 5: that fact that IU was the losingest Division one football 1404 01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:38,840 Speaker 5: team in the history of college correct. And do you 1405 01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:44,719 Speaker 5: think that, prior to the hire for Signetti that Signetti 1406 01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:46,280 Speaker 5: would occasionally. 1407 01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:50,640 Speaker 7: Sit around ponder, you know, I'm such a badass. I 1408 01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:52,240 Speaker 7: could take the worst. 1409 01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:55,720 Speaker 5: Team in Division one and be a champion. And he 1410 01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:56,879 Speaker 5: googled it. 1411 01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:03,519 Speaker 1: And what he say, now here's the thing, Terry, is 1412 01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:05,920 Speaker 1: the worst thing. Now here's the thing, Terry. I'm going 1413 01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:08,080 Speaker 1: to answer that question, and I'm going to do it 1414 01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:13,439 Speaker 1: by explaining why exactly you just perfectly led me into 1415 01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:17,960 Speaker 1: the segue of where it goes from here. And I 1416 01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:22,360 Speaker 1: don't think Signetti googled that, but I think there's something 1417 01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:26,560 Speaker 1: else in play that you're onto and I will explain 1418 01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:30,479 Speaker 1: exactly what I'm talking about. On the other side, Shane 1419 01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:34,280 Speaker 1: Steichen's take on several things from yesterday we will play 1420 01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:36,680 Speaker 1: for you coming up and just a little bit including 1421 01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:41,840 Speaker 1: that of the quarterback situation and what we know and 1422 01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:43,800 Speaker 1: I think we knew this last night. But you know, 1423 01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:46,800 Speaker 1: Anthony Richards is going to miss multiple games, not that 1424 01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:48,679 Speaker 1: he is playing, but you get what I'm saying there. 1425 01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:51,719 Speaker 1: And if you're just joining us, Mike Chapel mentioned earlier 1426 01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:53,559 Speaker 1: the fact that he thought that the Colts would go 1427 01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:58,000 Speaker 1: out and get themselves a veteran quarterback. Sign one, no 1428 01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:01,680 Speaker 1: disrespect to Riley Leonard, but again, backup quarterbacks are like 1429 01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:05,200 Speaker 1: donut tires. If you can use them for an exeter two, 1430 01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:08,759 Speaker 1: that's cool. If you try to maintain your exact voyage 1431 01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:10,760 Speaker 1: on the interstate all the way through with one, then 1432 01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,439 Speaker 1: you realize why they are the donut tire or the backup. 1433 01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:17,920 Speaker 1: But in terms of Indiana and what Terry mentioned, I'm 1434 01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:22,439 Speaker 1: going to get back into this, and I've thought about 1435 01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:27,800 Speaker 1: this from several angles, and I realize, you know, the 1436 01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:31,960 Speaker 1: immediate association to Kurt Signetti in the Penn State job, 1437 01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:36,360 Speaker 1: Penn State parting ways with James Franklin after their loss. 1438 01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:39,200 Speaker 1: They have now lost three straight. The loss to Oregon 1439 01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:43,639 Speaker 1: at home in overtime is relatively excusable, if you will, 1440 01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:46,320 Speaker 1: unless you're Penn State, I guess. But then the other 1441 01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:48,400 Speaker 1: two losses, I mean getting blown out at UCLA and 1442 01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:51,000 Speaker 1: losing to Northwestern, and enough was enough after twelve years 1443 01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:54,599 Speaker 1: James Franklin out. Now, this is a coach that if 1444 01:21:54,640 --> 01:22:00,960 Speaker 1: you think about it, you know of late was within 1445 01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:04,840 Speaker 1: a half of playing for a national championship game in 1446 01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:10,560 Speaker 1: a national championship game. But you know, it's all about recency, 1447 01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:14,560 Speaker 1: and especially at a place like Penn State. Kurt Signetti 1448 01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:21,040 Speaker 1: is a Pennsylvania native. Kurt Signetti has coached at three 1449 01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:25,880 Speaker 1: different colleges in the state of Pennsylvania. He played collegiately 1450 01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:29,360 Speaker 1: at West Virginia. He grew up in the Pittsburgh area, 1451 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,840 Speaker 1: and one would assume that Kurt Signetti growing up whether 1452 01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:34,760 Speaker 1: or not he was a Penn State fan growing up, 1453 01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:37,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know that answer, but when 1454 01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:42,439 Speaker 1: you grow up in Pennsylvania, it is impossible to not 1455 01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:46,040 Speaker 1: know of the power of the brand of Penn State football. 1456 01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:51,400 Speaker 1: And having nothing to do with some of the cloud 1457 01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:57,800 Speaker 1: of what has happened at Penn State, the reality is this, 1458 01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:04,280 Speaker 1: even if the scandal at Penn State had never happened 1459 01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:07,800 Speaker 1: and Joe Paterno had simply retired, the reality is when 1460 01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:11,559 Speaker 1: you have a coach that is larger than life. You 1461 01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:17,600 Speaker 1: know at Florida you have If you go to Florida, 1462 01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:19,720 Speaker 1: are you trying to live up to Urban Meyer or 1463 01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:23,360 Speaker 1: are you trying to live up to Steve Spurrier? You know, 1464 01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:26,360 Speaker 1: if you go to Alabama, now you obviously are trying 1465 01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:28,280 Speaker 1: to live up to Nick Saban, but there's also Bear 1466 01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:33,600 Speaker 1: Bryant there. Different schools have different and I realized that 1467 01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:36,920 Speaker 1: Indiana from a basketball standpoint, Branch McCracken was a great 1468 01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:39,559 Speaker 1: and successful coach and there was a basketball program in 1469 01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:42,760 Speaker 1: Indiana of success long before Bob Knight ever stepped foot 1470 01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:51,240 Speaker 1: in Bloomington, Indiana. But nonetheless, now from a basketball standpoint, Indiana, 1471 01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:56,320 Speaker 1: since Bob Knight's departure, Indiana has yet to ever hire 1472 01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:58,559 Speaker 1: a coach that was their first cho Well, I shouldn't 1473 01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:01,400 Speaker 1: say that. Maybe Archie Miller was the one guy they 1474 01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:04,280 Speaker 1: went after where they just said we're going after this 1475 01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:05,400 Speaker 1: guy and we're gonna get him. 1476 01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:06,400 Speaker 2: But when. 1477 01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:11,640 Speaker 1: But outside of that, and that was one that that 1478 01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,040 Speaker 1: was just a bizarre thing in general, he's like Gerald 1479 01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:16,639 Speaker 1: Ford like, it's like this administration you almost forget about. 1480 01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:18,040 Speaker 2: You're like, oh, yeah, I forgot about that one. 1481 01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:22,160 Speaker 1: But Indiana has had, you know, when they've gone after 1482 01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:27,240 Speaker 1: their big fish higher Brad Stevens, notably, they have not 1483 01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:30,640 Speaker 1: been able to bring it in for whatever reason. And 1484 01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:32,519 Speaker 1: Brad Stevens is the guy that grew up in Indiana, 1485 01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:34,920 Speaker 1: knew of the power of Indiana basketball, the branding of 1486 01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:38,839 Speaker 1: Indiana basketball, coached at a smaller school in Indiana, coached 1487 01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:42,160 Speaker 1: in Indiana, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Right, and 1488 01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:46,080 Speaker 1: with all of that, still and I realized the Boston 1489 01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:48,679 Speaker 1: Celtics is a lot different than than where he is, right, 1490 01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:51,000 Speaker 1: and so the. 1491 01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:53,920 Speaker 2: But the reality is this. 1492 01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:59,280 Speaker 1: I think Kurt Signetti with Penn State, and I think 1493 01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:04,040 Speaker 1: Penn State fans assume that the lure of Penn State 1494 01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:09,120 Speaker 1: is going to immediately bring in like a Signetti. All 1495 01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:10,639 Speaker 1: they gotta do is make that phone call and he's 1496 01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:14,400 Speaker 1: gonna come. Well, he's making roughly nine at Indiana. Penn 1497 01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:16,160 Speaker 1: State will probably pay up to like fifty. Let's say 1498 01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:17,920 Speaker 1: Penn State says we got a five year, seventy five 1499 01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:20,320 Speaker 1: million dollars deal. First off, I think Matt Ruhle is 1500 01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:22,800 Speaker 1: going to be their first choice. He played at Penn State, 1501 01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:26,800 Speaker 1: he's tight with the athletic director, he's turned around programs. 1502 01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:29,920 Speaker 1: But even if Signetti was their guy, the point that 1503 01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:33,840 Speaker 1: Terry makes, I think the challenge and the pride, Kurt 1504 01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:37,720 Speaker 1: Signetti's wired differently. Kurt Signetti is wired in such a 1505 01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:41,599 Speaker 1: way that I don't think he's an easy road guy. 1506 01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:46,000 Speaker 1: And what he's done at Indiana is remarkable, and I 1507 01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:50,880 Speaker 1: think he takes pride in the fact that Indiana is 1508 01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:55,639 Speaker 1: his He can be Indiana's Joe Paterno, and I think 1509 01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:57,760 Speaker 1: he knows that. And it's for that reason that I 1510 01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:00,000 Speaker 1: don't think that Penn State lures him away. I think 1511 01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:02,639 Speaker 1: I think Indiana if you want an explanation on why 1512 01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:06,240 Speaker 1: Signetti is not going to end up in Happy Valley, 1513 01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:10,960 Speaker 1: he may. But if he doesn't, Indiana fans can take 1514 01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:12,960 Speaker 1: a little bit of a sigh or a deep breath 1515 01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:14,679 Speaker 1: of looking at it and saying, well, why has Brad 1516 01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:20,040 Speaker 1: Stevens not come to Indiana. It's very similar. Big news 1517 01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:22,160 Speaker 1: in the AFC South, And we'll let you hear what 1518 01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:32,000 Speaker 1: Shane Steiken had to say yesterday. Next, here's a really 1519 01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:38,439 Speaker 1: good point, really good point texted to me. It would 1520 01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:41,320 Speaker 1: be dumb for Penn State to go after Kurt Signetti. 1521 01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:43,760 Speaker 1: He's a lock for the playoffs, meaning they can't touch 1522 01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:48,040 Speaker 1: him until late January, which would destroy what recruits they 1523 01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:50,320 Speaker 1: could pick from. That's a really good point as well. 1524 01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:54,040 Speaker 1: All Right, yesterday, big win for the Colts they are 1525 01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:58,120 Speaker 1: five and one. They are doing historic things in terms 1526 01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:02,439 Speaker 1: of their offense to a level in for a town 1527 01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:07,599 Speaker 1: that has been used to seeing great offensive play, you know, 1528 01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:11,680 Speaker 1: to see an offense that is clicking on these cylinders 1529 01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:16,879 Speaker 1: is still surreal. Because Daniel Jones, I don't think anybody 1530 01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:21,559 Speaker 1: ever would confuse him, obviously with Peyton Manning, right, but 1531 01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:28,040 Speaker 1: the efficiency in which they're running is impressive. For example, 1532 01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:30,519 Speaker 1: this from Matt Contier the Colts. The Colts were four 1533 01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:33,960 Speaker 1: for four in the red zone against Arizona. It's the 1534 01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:36,679 Speaker 1: first time the Colts have recorded back to back games 1535 01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:42,920 Speaker 1: with one red zone efficiency since twenty twenty. The Colts 1536 01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:45,000 Speaker 1: have scored one hundred and ninety four points through their 1537 01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:48,439 Speaker 1: first six games this season. That is the most for 1538 01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:53,800 Speaker 1: any team during that span in the Indianapolis era. Think 1539 01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:56,559 Speaker 1: about that, of all of the great offenses you've seen here, 1540 01:27:56,880 --> 01:28:00,360 Speaker 1: the great offensive players, they are off to the most 1541 01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:07,639 Speaker 1: efficient offensive start in their history since the Mayflowers arrived. Now, 1542 01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:12,720 Speaker 1: if you go back to yesterday, I think there was 1543 01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:15,800 Speaker 1: a microcosm of where the Colts are right now. 1544 01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:16,800 Speaker 2: That was. 1545 01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:21,040 Speaker 1: That took place before the ball was even kicked off. 1546 01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:27,120 Speaker 1: And I'm talking about the surreal nature of Anthony Richardson 1547 01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:30,360 Speaker 1: in the locker room doing a stretch with you guys 1548 01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:33,280 Speaker 1: have all seen it. You know, you put your foot 1549 01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:35,040 Speaker 1: on a thing and there's a big rubber band and 1550 01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:37,479 Speaker 1: you're pulling it Upward. I assume that's what he was 1551 01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:41,080 Speaker 1: stretching with, and then all of a sudden it snaps 1552 01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:45,280 Speaker 1: and the wooden part of the device comes flying back 1553 01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:47,639 Speaker 1: up in the air, hits him in the eye and boom, 1554 01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:52,160 Speaker 1: orbital bone fracture. And he is expected to miss multiple games. 1555 01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:57,200 Speaker 1: And then you have Shavarius Mooney Ward out on the 1556 01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:02,600 Speaker 1: field before the game working out and Drew Ogletree is 1557 01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:05,320 Speaker 1: running it out for getting himself formed up as a 1558 01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:08,480 Speaker 1: tight end. The two collide and Ward, who was assigned 1559 01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:13,360 Speaker 1: essentially one would assume to just shadow Marvin Harrison Junior 1560 01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:15,960 Speaker 1: the entire game. He also doesn't make it out because 1561 01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:19,799 Speaker 1: he's got a concussion before the game. Shane Steichen yesterday 1562 01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:22,519 Speaker 1: talked about the surreal nature of the injuries before the 1563 01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:23,360 Speaker 1: game even began. 1564 01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:26,000 Speaker 8: It was very interesting, to say the least. 1565 01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:28,080 Speaker 2: It was. 1566 01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:30,920 Speaker 8: It was we had to kind of rally the troops 1567 01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:34,280 Speaker 8: there in the locker room and get get our get 1568 01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:37,240 Speaker 8: us back into focus, and uh, I thought our guys 1569 01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:40,519 Speaker 8: did that the right way and just obviously hope ar 1570 01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:45,160 Speaker 8: is good and and Mooney's good. Yeah, that was that 1571 01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:47,120 Speaker 8: was just trying to get the guys back on focus. 1572 01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:54,519 Speaker 1: That personifies this season because what has this year been 1573 01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:57,840 Speaker 1: about for the Colts. It's been about trying to refocus, 1574 01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:04,439 Speaker 1: get everybody gathered together and not pay attention to the 1575 01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:08,160 Speaker 1: external noise and just get back down to the brass tacks. 1576 01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:12,679 Speaker 1: And in that game yesterday against Arizona, you have those 1577 01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:16,559 Speaker 1: two things happening, the Richardson injury happening in the locker room, 1578 01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:19,560 Speaker 1: the Ward injury happening, and you know people coming in 1579 01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:21,080 Speaker 1: and going did you hear what just happened out on 1580 01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:23,160 Speaker 1: the field for those that hadn't gone out yet, and 1581 01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:27,040 Speaker 1: you've got to get everybody together and say, okay, guys, 1582 01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:31,320 Speaker 1: we've got to kind of calm down here and reset 1583 01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:34,040 Speaker 1: the deck. We've got to just let's just focus on 1584 01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:38,640 Speaker 1: what's going on. And that's what this team has been about, 1585 01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:43,400 Speaker 1: because this time of year ago, you're talking about the 1586 01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:47,800 Speaker 1: quarterback helmet tapping and guys, you know who's going to 1587 01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:51,880 Speaker 1: be the quarterback and what's going on in terms of 1588 01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:55,040 Speaker 1: are the running back who had held himself out, and 1589 01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:57,799 Speaker 1: meetings and buses and all kinds of stuff, all kinds. 1590 01:30:57,560 --> 01:30:58,400 Speaker 2: Of noise going on. 1591 01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:04,320 Speaker 1: This entire year has been about just kind of settling 1592 01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:08,400 Speaker 1: things down, and I think a part of that comes 1593 01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:12,519 Speaker 1: down to Daniel Jones and the selection of Daniel Jones 1594 01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:17,240 Speaker 1: at quarterback, because when you look at the way he 1595 01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:22,120 Speaker 1: played yesterday, again microcosm Jones when he throws a pick, 1596 01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:26,120 Speaker 1: and we saw this in Los Angeles against the Rams. 1597 01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:28,479 Speaker 1: There are a lot of quarterbacks that when they throw 1598 01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:31,280 Speaker 1: an interception, it can derail the best of the best. 1599 01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:34,160 Speaker 1: It can happen to that, it can derail the game 1600 01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:38,040 Speaker 1: and things can unravel very quickly. That was not the 1601 01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:42,559 Speaker 1: case with Daniel Jones, who continues to play at this 1602 01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:46,840 Speaker 1: point through six games at an MVP level. And Shane 1603 01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:50,680 Speaker 1: Stiken also has noticed just a professional composure and the 1604 01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:57,000 Speaker 1: overall placid and maintaining without any sort of nerve getting 1605 01:31:57,000 --> 01:31:59,040 Speaker 1: into it emotion of Daniel Jones. 1606 01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:01,800 Speaker 8: He's pretty calm. I think he's got laser focus, he's 1607 01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:05,720 Speaker 8: locked in. I think it's it's his preparation. You know 1608 01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:07,200 Speaker 8: a lot of you guys have heard me say that, 1609 01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:09,280 Speaker 8: but his preparation that he puts in during the week, 1610 01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:11,920 Speaker 8: Like when you're prepared like the way he does, right, 1611 01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:13,760 Speaker 8: you don't blink like you go out and you have 1612 01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:16,040 Speaker 8: confidence in your ability because you know you put in 1613 01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:18,600 Speaker 8: the work like he does. And when you put in 1614 01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:20,639 Speaker 8: the work like that and you go execute like he's 1615 01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:22,880 Speaker 8: been doing and the guys are making plays around him 1616 01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:25,519 Speaker 8: and the O line's blocking, it's fun as a coach 1617 01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:25,880 Speaker 8: to watch. 1618 01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:29,400 Speaker 1: And again, what's fun is seeing your team atop the 1619 01:32:29,439 --> 01:32:32,600 Speaker 1: AFC South A Division. We're already the first coaching casualty 1620 01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:36,120 Speaker 1: has taken place because Corbyn, if I'm not mistaken, we 1621 01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:38,240 Speaker 1: just found out in the last couple of minutes that 1622 01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:41,600 Speaker 1: there has been a change made in Nashville, correct, that 1623 01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:44,240 Speaker 1: is right, and that change. 1624 01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:47,840 Speaker 2: Would be Ryan Callahan is out as the Tennessee Titans, 1625 01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:48,200 Speaker 2: said coach. 1626 01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:51,920 Speaker 1: Okay, so the Titans already and again, I mean nobody 1627 01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:54,600 Speaker 1: was expecting Tennessee this year to do really anything. But 1628 01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:58,280 Speaker 1: what do you have there? You have a rookie quarterback 1629 01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:02,559 Speaker 1: in cam Ward. You have of instability in the way 1630 01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:04,439 Speaker 1: that they're playing now all of a sudden and so 1631 01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:08,799 Speaker 1: much so much of a young quarterback in the development 1632 01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:11,040 Speaker 1: of one is putting them in the right position, having 1633 01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:14,120 Speaker 1: the right things around them. And now Tennessee finds themselves. 1634 01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:19,120 Speaker 1: You know, look no further than Jacksonville and Trevor Lawrence, 1635 01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:21,080 Speaker 1: who had all the tools coming in. He's got Urban 1636 01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:23,760 Speaker 1: Meyer and they make that coaching change. It is so 1637 01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:28,040 Speaker 1: important to get the right stability around a young player, 1638 01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:32,800 Speaker 1: and the Colts now have that in Jones. But you 1639 01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:35,640 Speaker 1: wonder with Daniel Jones, go back to his time in 1640 01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:40,439 Speaker 1: New York, when Daniel Jones was in New York and 1641 01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:46,720 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones was the quarterback for the Giants and they 1642 01:33:46,720 --> 01:33:49,080 Speaker 1: get rid of Saquon Barkley and all of a sudden, 1643 01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:50,880 Speaker 1: they're just as like turmoil in New York and he 1644 01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:52,880 Speaker 1: can't get any footing. And then you begin to wonder, 1645 01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:55,120 Speaker 1: is it the franchise, is it the coaching is at 1646 01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:58,760 Speaker 1: the quarterback, whatever it may be. And Jones and I 1647 01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:02,120 Speaker 1: think that we and ours think to ourselves, this is 1648 01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:04,800 Speaker 1: a guy that went straight from a bad situation in 1649 01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:08,040 Speaker 1: New York, came into one in Indianapolis. It seems to 1650 01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:10,840 Speaker 1: be a good fit. They've got tons of weapons around him, 1651 01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:14,559 Speaker 1: They've got a very good offensive line, Tyler Warren is 1652 01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:17,120 Speaker 1: a centerpiece in terms of what they want to do offensively. 1653 01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:21,800 Speaker 1: But we forget Daniel Jones in the intermediary did have 1654 01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:25,200 Speaker 1: a stop in Minnesota as well, in watching the Vikings 1655 01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:27,880 Speaker 1: a year ago and being there, and I think that 1656 01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:31,680 Speaker 1: there is part of what he saw in Minneapolis that 1657 01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:34,120 Speaker 1: transferred to Indianapolis, just the. 1658 01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:38,400 Speaker 9: Level of detail that they operated under. I think, you know, 1659 01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:42,640 Speaker 9: just so so specific about you know, what looks were 1660 01:34:42,640 --> 01:34:45,320 Speaker 9: getting this week, Where's the answer? How do we recognize it? 1661 01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:48,120 Speaker 9: You know, how do we walk through it, how do 1662 01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:52,959 Speaker 9: we prepare to see it? You know, having quick answers 1663 01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:55,559 Speaker 9: on what if this happens, what if that happens. I mean, 1664 01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:58,439 Speaker 9: all the all the situations that could come up in 1665 01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:03,280 Speaker 9: a game. You know, they were you know, Ko, Grant, 1666 01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:06,759 Speaker 9: Josh and then Sam and all the quarterbacks were constantly 1667 01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:10,280 Speaker 9: quizzing each other and checking and making sure that they're 1668 01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:12,000 Speaker 9: ready to go for whatever the defense could do. 1669 01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:17,599 Speaker 1: And again, the most important part of that play again 1670 01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:19,840 Speaker 1: for me, Corbyn, the very first thing he said the 1671 01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:23,160 Speaker 1: first three seconds of this sound clip of Daniel Jones 1672 01:35:23,479 --> 01:35:27,040 Speaker 1: talking about what he witnessed in Minnesota, just the level. 1673 01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:30,760 Speaker 9: Of detail that they operated under I think you know 1674 01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:35,000 Speaker 9: just so so specific about you know what looks we're 1675 01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:36,360 Speaker 9: getting this week, whereas. 1676 01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:42,120 Speaker 1: They go right there the attention to detail. I don't 1677 01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:44,800 Speaker 1: know is he did he not have that in New York? 1678 01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:46,880 Speaker 2: I don't know, But. 1679 01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:53,639 Speaker 1: This simply is working in terms of the relationship. Whether 1680 01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:57,000 Speaker 1: or not Daniel Jones learned that on the job, whether 1681 01:35:57,080 --> 01:35:59,200 Speaker 1: or not Daniel Jones has always had that and didn't 1682 01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:03,280 Speaker 1: have it about himself I mean, and didn't have it 1683 01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:08,080 Speaker 1: in New York. I don't know, But I mentioned this 1684 01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:19,040 Speaker 1: all the time. Sometimes there is more to it than 1685 01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:24,759 Speaker 1: what we realize on it. And when Shane Steiken grabbed 1686 01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:29,040 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones as his starting quarterback, I think there is 1687 01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:31,360 Speaker 1: more to it than in the time we knew. 1688 01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:35,599 Speaker 2: The first being do we know. 1689 01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:40,439 Speaker 1: When Anthony Richardson was handed the keys as a young player, 1690 01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:45,879 Speaker 1: that Shane Stiken made that decision, or that Chris Ballard 1691 01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:48,679 Speaker 1: even made that decision, or was there a mandate there? 1692 01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:51,599 Speaker 1: And we can look back now and say that that 1693 01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:55,439 Speaker 1: probably was premature because what you did was you handed 1694 01:36:55,479 --> 01:36:58,200 Speaker 1: the keys and you had in the driver's seat a 1695 01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:00,920 Speaker 1: player that a no fault of his, didn't have the 1696 01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:06,599 Speaker 1: experience of the maturity to understand attention to detail, and 1697 01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:10,040 Speaker 1: when they tried to send the message of attention to detail, 1698 01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:18,439 Speaker 1: was that fully supported and backed up. And then when 1699 01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:23,360 Speaker 1: Shane Steiken announced Daniel Jones as the starter, I think 1700 01:37:23,400 --> 01:37:26,679 Speaker 1: there were a lot of us, myself included that thought 1701 01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:29,760 Speaker 1: perhaps that was simply another wake up call to try 1702 01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:34,160 Speaker 1: to get Anthony Richardson going, when in reality what it 1703 01:37:34,439 --> 01:37:37,840 Speaker 1: was was Shane Steiken was looking at this football team 1704 01:37:38,120 --> 01:37:41,680 Speaker 1: and at this roster and at the new additions and 1705 01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:44,320 Speaker 1: Tyler Warren and everything else, and he was saying, the 1706 01:37:44,360 --> 01:37:51,519 Speaker 1: missing ingredient here isn't even necessarily the making the immediate throw, 1707 01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:56,439 Speaker 1: making the layups, being able to go through all the 1708 01:37:56,439 --> 01:38:01,200 Speaker 1: progressions and reads. The missing ingredient here is the attention 1709 01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:04,600 Speaker 1: to every detail and the understanding of the importance of that, 1710 01:38:05,120 --> 01:38:08,080 Speaker 1: of being able to always have the right play, how 1711 01:38:08,120 --> 01:38:10,960 Speaker 1: to get out of a bad play, how to turn 1712 01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:14,599 Speaker 1: a bad play into a at least we got by 1713 01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:19,400 Speaker 1: on second down and didn't lose five yards play. And 1714 01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:22,000 Speaker 1: I think that he was able to see that that 1715 01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:26,280 Speaker 1: existed within Daniel Jones, partially because of the journey that 1716 01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:30,880 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones has been on, and it absolutely is working now. 1717 01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:34,640 Speaker 1: And what is amazing to me is the fact that 1718 01:38:34,680 --> 01:38:38,400 Speaker 1: we have gone from the beginning of the year looking 1719 01:38:38,439 --> 01:38:41,640 Speaker 1: at the schedule and trying to figure out exactly what 1720 01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:44,240 Speaker 1: the Colts record was going to be by figuring out 1721 01:38:44,240 --> 01:38:46,720 Speaker 1: which games they could win, and now you look at 1722 01:38:46,720 --> 01:38:50,160 Speaker 1: it and yeah, there's a little bit of a you know, 1723 01:38:50,280 --> 01:38:54,879 Speaker 1: obviously a danger and looking at it and a boredom 1724 01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:57,240 Speaker 1: of looking at it and going, Okay, let's do schedule 1725 01:38:57,240 --> 01:39:00,160 Speaker 1: predictions and record predictions whatever else. But when you look 1726 01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:01,479 Speaker 1: at it now, you start to look at it and 1727 01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:05,800 Speaker 1: you go, where are the loss is gonna come? I mean, 1728 01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:08,320 Speaker 1: we're starting to now through six games, figure out who's 1729 01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:12,280 Speaker 1: good and who's not. And when you look at it, Okay, 1730 01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:15,080 Speaker 1: there's a challenge this week against the Chargers, but is 1731 01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:18,080 Speaker 1: there because their old line has not been great the Colts. 1732 01:39:18,120 --> 01:39:20,120 Speaker 1: The one thing the Colts, if there is a deficiency, 1733 01:39:20,439 --> 01:39:25,799 Speaker 1: they're not getting to opposing quarterbacks with much frequency. But nonetheless, okay, 1734 01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:30,200 Speaker 1: nonetheless the offensive line for the Chargers is not great. 1735 01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:32,680 Speaker 1: You can get to Justin Herbert and interrupt him a 1736 01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:37,120 Speaker 1: little bit. Then you go to Tennessee, which we just 1737 01:39:37,160 --> 01:39:40,479 Speaker 1: talked about, is now well, Tennessee actually comes here, but 1738 01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:45,040 Speaker 1: I'm saying, you get Tennessee at home. They're a complete 1739 01:39:45,160 --> 01:39:47,400 Speaker 1: dumpster fire. They're looking for a new head coach, they 1740 01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:52,800 Speaker 1: got a rookie quarterback. It's a disaster, right Atlanta, Well, 1741 01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:56,200 Speaker 1: you got Pittsburgh. And Pittsburgh's another one that it's like, are. 1742 01:39:56,080 --> 01:40:00,960 Speaker 2: The Steelers good? I don't know. Oh, the Steelers good. 1743 01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:03,360 Speaker 2: They must be because look at them. They're leading their division. 1744 01:40:04,280 --> 01:40:07,280 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is not necessarily like you know, fifteen year 1745 01:40:07,320 --> 01:40:12,120 Speaker 2: ago Aaron Rodgers. But he's playing pretty well. DK Metcalf 1746 01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:16,920 Speaker 2: is doing some DK Metcalf things at times. But then 1747 01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:19,439 Speaker 2: after that, who jumps out at you? Kansas City? Okay? 1748 01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:25,000 Speaker 2: Does San Francisco at home? Scary at this point? Okay? 1749 01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:29,879 Speaker 2: And then I mean lo and behold. 1750 01:40:30,040 --> 01:40:32,280 Speaker 1: They are the number one seed in the AFC, and 1751 01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:36,639 Speaker 1: they may well be holding onto that for a while, 1752 01:40:36,840 --> 01:40:42,719 Speaker 1: so long as they stay healthy and the Colts are playing. 1753 01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:50,960 Speaker 1: And by the way, I was incorrect earlier, I apologize. Yes, 1754 01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:53,080 Speaker 1: Purdue is right number one. It is not Rob Blackman 1755 01:40:53,120 --> 01:40:54,920 Speaker 1: that is joining us later in the program, coming up 1756 01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:56,800 Speaker 1: about fifteen minutes from now. But we're going inside the 1757 01:40:56,800 --> 01:41:00,800 Speaker 1: Colts locker room. Correct, Corbyn is right. Would you like 1758 01:41:00,840 --> 01:41:03,600 Speaker 1: to embellish on that or elaborate? 1759 01:41:03,640 --> 01:41:06,320 Speaker 2: I should say, Makaile Blackman is going to join us 1760 01:41:06,320 --> 01:41:07,040 Speaker 2: at two thirty. 1761 01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:09,320 Speaker 1: Jai okay, Makai Blackman joining us bottom of the hour, 1762 01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:13,120 Speaker 1: So we'll get a better glimpse into the mood, the 1763 01:41:13,160 --> 01:41:16,920 Speaker 1: atmosphere of the Colts in general. But the thing being 1764 01:41:17,000 --> 01:41:22,400 Speaker 1: here the Colts. To me, there are like two parallel 1765 01:41:22,439 --> 01:41:25,639 Speaker 1: stories right now in Indiana when it comes to football. 1766 01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:28,120 Speaker 1: One is the Colts and the other's I you, because 1767 01:41:28,320 --> 01:41:32,040 Speaker 1: what Indiana did over the weekend at Oregon was. 1768 01:41:33,960 --> 01:41:34,639 Speaker 2: That was. 1769 01:41:37,160 --> 01:41:42,720 Speaker 1: Indiana right now. If the Indianapolis Colts are the surprising 1770 01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:45,760 Speaker 1: number one seed in the AFC, the reality is this, 1771 01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:49,479 Speaker 1: the Indiana Hoosiers of Kurt Signetti may well be the 1772 01:41:49,479 --> 01:41:52,120 Speaker 1: best team in college football. They might know, I know 1773 01:41:52,160 --> 01:41:55,000 Speaker 1: the ranked third, and I know Miami's got an impressive 1774 01:41:55,040 --> 01:41:58,400 Speaker 1: win winning at home over Notre Dame, and Miami Miami's 1775 01:41:58,439 --> 01:42:02,559 Speaker 1: been is very, very good, and Ohio State is obviously elite. 1776 01:42:02,800 --> 01:42:06,360 Speaker 1: Ohio State's offense is as good as anybody. Ohio State 1777 01:42:06,439 --> 01:42:09,200 Speaker 1: defensively in the red zone is as good as anybody. 1778 01:42:09,240 --> 01:42:12,200 Speaker 1: I get it. But right now in terms of body 1779 01:42:12,240 --> 01:42:15,840 Speaker 1: of work. The most impressive college football win of the 1780 01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:20,120 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five season belongs to the Indiana Hoosiers. Indiana 1781 01:42:20,200 --> 01:42:24,200 Speaker 1: going in and winning at Oregon, and not just winning, 1782 01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:28,800 Speaker 1: but doing it in the same way as kind of 1783 01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:33,560 Speaker 1: the Colts have won. Of precision. Like Daniel Jones was 1784 01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:37,120 Speaker 1: talking about, you could take sound clips of the Colts 1785 01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:40,200 Speaker 1: talking about their approach to games, of the Colts talking 1786 01:42:40,240 --> 01:42:42,880 Speaker 1: about what they do over the course of games. You 1787 01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:45,599 Speaker 1: could take those clips and say that it's an Indiana 1788 01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:49,000 Speaker 1: football player talking about IU and you would say that's yeah, 1789 01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:52,559 Speaker 1: that's right, because they're winning in similar fashion. They're going 1790 01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:56,760 Speaker 1: out the precise they are controlling lines of scrimmage, they're 1791 01:42:56,760 --> 01:43:00,400 Speaker 1: controlling in the trenches. And in Indiana's case, what Indiana 1792 01:43:00,479 --> 01:43:03,880 Speaker 1: did to me that was so impressive was Indiana went 1793 01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:10,519 Speaker 1: in and they out pizzazzed Oregon. Indiana flew to the football. 1794 01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:15,120 Speaker 1: Indiana was faster than Oregon. Indiana was more aggressive than Oregon. 1795 01:43:15,400 --> 01:43:20,920 Speaker 1: Indiana's linebackers were more tenacious than Oregon's. Indiana ran and 1796 01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:25,679 Speaker 1: punched between the tackles more than Oregon. Indiana's quarterback when 1797 01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:29,600 Speaker 1: needed to be so was more precise than Oregons, and 1798 01:43:29,680 --> 01:43:33,960 Speaker 1: Oregon's is very good. But they went in to that 1799 01:43:34,160 --> 01:43:37,840 Speaker 1: atmosphere where so many teams go in and struggle, and 1800 01:43:37,880 --> 01:43:41,000 Speaker 1: they went in against a team that has been as 1801 01:43:41,200 --> 01:43:44,800 Speaker 1: much style as anybody in college football. But they've got 1802 01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:47,439 Speaker 1: substance to back it up. Does Oregon, even though they 1803 01:43:47,439 --> 01:43:50,840 Speaker 1: have not won a national title. They've been right there 1804 01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:54,160 Speaker 1: in the mix for a while now. But Oregon is 1805 01:43:54,280 --> 01:43:59,200 Speaker 1: all about the Nike money, the glitz, the glamour, all 1806 01:43:59,240 --> 01:44:03,840 Speaker 1: of it. The duck with his fancy sign making fun 1807 01:44:03,840 --> 01:44:04,679 Speaker 1: of the Indy five hundred. 1808 01:44:04,680 --> 01:44:08,799 Speaker 2: I thought it was funny, actually, But with all. 1809 01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:18,840 Speaker 1: Of that, it was Indiana, nondescript, non sexy, efficient Indiana 1810 01:44:19,200 --> 01:44:25,240 Speaker 1: that went into Oregon and controlled the latter part of 1811 01:44:25,240 --> 01:44:28,400 Speaker 1: that game. And I thought you could tell and listen 1812 01:44:28,720 --> 01:44:34,040 Speaker 1: when when Indiana had to go they had multiple drives 1813 01:44:34,120 --> 01:44:37,599 Speaker 1: in that game. Did Indiana in a in a raucous, 1814 01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:42,120 Speaker 1: hostile environment where they responded And Mendoza showed the kind 1815 01:44:42,120 --> 01:44:45,839 Speaker 1: of composure that has him right there in the argument 1816 01:44:45,880 --> 01:44:51,799 Speaker 1: in the discussion for the Heisman, And I said earlier, 1817 01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:56,400 Speaker 1: I thought the play of the game in that game 1818 01:44:56,520 --> 01:45:00,519 Speaker 1: in Eugene came and I think it was in the 1819 01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:06,240 Speaker 1: either late first or early second quarter. Mendoza looks to 1820 01:45:06,280 --> 01:45:10,360 Speaker 1: the side they need a first down. He completes it 1821 01:45:10,400 --> 01:45:14,080 Speaker 1: to Cooper, who makes an unbelievable one handed catch. I 1822 01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:16,280 Speaker 1: mean it was a great catch. The one handed nature 1823 01:45:16,320 --> 01:45:19,439 Speaker 1: of the catch alone was impressive. But he makes that 1824 01:45:19,479 --> 01:45:23,960 Speaker 1: one handed catch and then and this is where Indiana 1825 01:45:24,160 --> 01:45:29,439 Speaker 1: is different. It's what makes Daniel Jones and what he 1826 01:45:29,479 --> 01:45:32,800 Speaker 1: said about what he learned in Minnesota different. And it's 1827 01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:37,440 Speaker 1: what makes what the Colts are doing translatable and transferable 1828 01:45:37,439 --> 01:45:41,680 Speaker 1: to what Indiana's doing. Omar Cooper Junior makes this unbelievable 1829 01:45:41,720 --> 01:45:46,680 Speaker 1: one handed catch. But then he comes down. He's right 1830 01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:50,080 Speaker 1: on the sideline and he knows he needs like three 1831 01:45:50,160 --> 01:45:53,439 Speaker 1: or four more yards to get the first down, so 1832 01:45:53,560 --> 01:45:56,600 Speaker 1: he makes the one handed catch. He comes down, he 1833 01:45:56,720 --> 01:46:00,880 Speaker 1: makes a spin move, gets an extra dive and gets 1834 01:46:00,880 --> 01:46:04,479 Speaker 1: the first down and keeps the drive going. And it's 1835 01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:11,719 Speaker 1: that attention to detail, It's that awareness, it's that vision 1836 01:46:13,320 --> 01:46:17,559 Speaker 1: that is different than most teams. And that comes down 1837 01:46:17,560 --> 01:46:21,920 Speaker 1: to preparation, that comes down to dedication, that comes down 1838 01:46:22,000 --> 01:46:25,760 Speaker 1: to coaching, and that comes down to a brand and 1839 01:46:25,840 --> 01:46:30,600 Speaker 1: a mantra that is why Indiana two years ago was 1840 01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:33,759 Speaker 1: doing finger snaps and singing fight songs at a whisper 1841 01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:40,200 Speaker 1: to celebrate a four overtime win over Akron. And now 1842 01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:43,720 Speaker 1: they have the highest rating ranking in the history of 1843 01:46:43,760 --> 01:46:49,080 Speaker 1: the program. And it's turned around that quickly. And it's 1844 01:46:49,120 --> 01:46:51,760 Speaker 1: the best story right now in college football, and it 1845 01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:55,599 Speaker 1: might be the best story in Indianapolis sports. And that's 1846 01:46:55,640 --> 01:46:58,439 Speaker 1: with the professional sports team, one of their players, of 1847 01:46:58,479 --> 01:47:00,280 Speaker 1: which is going to join US an under ten. That's 1848 01:47:01,080 --> 01:47:06,879 Speaker 1: it comes with that that the I mean it, Eclip 1849 01:47:06,880 --> 01:47:08,679 Speaker 1: says the fact that the Colts might be the best 1850 01:47:08,680 --> 01:47:11,599 Speaker 1: team right now in the NFL, and the best team 1851 01:47:11,640 --> 01:47:14,519 Speaker 1: in college football may well be the Indiana Fight and Hoosiers. 1852 01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:16,720 Speaker 1: John joins us on the program at two through nine, 1853 01:47:16,760 --> 01:47:17,840 Speaker 1: ten seventy. What's up, John? 1854 01:47:18,680 --> 01:47:23,000 Speaker 7: Hey, there, you know I heard something interesting. New Heisl 1855 01:47:24,160 --> 01:47:27,880 Speaker 7: CBS Sports was at the Oregon Indiana game. In postgame, 1856 01:47:28,120 --> 01:47:33,080 Speaker 7: they interviewed Signetti and new Heisl asked Signetti, what did 1857 01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:37,000 Speaker 7: he tell Mendoza when he threw that pick six? And 1858 01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:39,800 Speaker 7: Signetti said, I went up to him and I asked 1859 01:47:39,880 --> 01:47:42,720 Speaker 7: him if he was having fun. And I think that 1860 01:47:42,840 --> 01:47:46,839 Speaker 7: tells a lot about the coach he realized at twenty 1861 01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:50,400 Speaker 7: to twenty he needed more from Mendoza. He needed him 1862 01:47:50,439 --> 01:47:53,839 Speaker 7: not to wilt and he needed to do He needed 1863 01:47:53,920 --> 01:47:56,640 Speaker 7: him to perform for the remainder of the game, and 1864 01:47:56,680 --> 01:47:58,639 Speaker 7: he asked him if he was having fun. 1865 01:48:00,320 --> 01:48:04,519 Speaker 1: I just think, John, and we don't know, right. We've 1866 01:48:04,520 --> 01:48:07,120 Speaker 1: been able to watch Kurt Signetti here for what nineteen 1867 01:48:07,160 --> 01:48:10,280 Speaker 1: games in Indiana, and anybody that says that they watched 1868 01:48:10,360 --> 01:48:12,439 Speaker 1: him game in and game out at James Madison, I mean, 1869 01:48:12,680 --> 01:48:14,960 Speaker 1: did anybody in Indiana really do that? So we're still 1870 01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:17,639 Speaker 1: getting to know him, but so too are his players, 1871 01:48:17,720 --> 01:48:20,960 Speaker 1: probably to an extent. But he seems to always know 1872 01:48:21,080 --> 01:48:26,560 Speaker 1: which button to push, right, And that's John. That's the 1873 01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:29,600 Speaker 1: key to it, right, is there's nothing about Signetti is 1874 01:48:29,680 --> 01:48:32,439 Speaker 1: enigmatic because when you look at him, he didn't look 1875 01:48:32,479 --> 01:48:36,040 Speaker 1: like the in your face Lombardi tile type coach, right, 1876 01:48:37,560 --> 01:48:43,639 Speaker 1: But from a scheme standpoint, a belief standpoint, in every 1877 01:48:43,800 --> 01:48:46,120 Speaker 1: area of it, so far, he has been able to 1878 01:48:46,160 --> 01:48:49,439 Speaker 1: push every button. And I think he loves the challenge. 1879 01:48:49,439 --> 01:48:52,800 Speaker 1: I think he's a challenge guy. He challenged Mendoza right there. 1880 01:48:52,960 --> 01:48:55,080 Speaker 1: I think he loves the challenge. I think he also 1881 01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:59,600 Speaker 1: loves the challenge of maintaining what he's built at Indiana, 1882 01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:02,000 Speaker 1: and his name's going to be circled elsewhere, and I 1883 01:49:02,040 --> 01:49:05,400 Speaker 1: don't think he has any interest in it. I think 1884 01:49:05,400 --> 01:49:07,719 Speaker 1: he's the long term guy in Indiana and I'm telling 1885 01:49:07,720 --> 01:49:09,600 Speaker 1: you right now, they may be the best team in 1886 01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:12,320 Speaker 1: college football and he did it. Is one of the 1887 01:49:12,320 --> 01:49:18,040 Speaker 1: most remarkable stories that we've seen in college football period period. 1888 01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:22,160 Speaker 1: And by the way, speaking of rankings, perdue number one 1889 01:49:22,240 --> 01:49:26,400 Speaker 1: college basketball preseason holes are out and the boiler Makers 1890 01:49:26,400 --> 01:49:29,719 Speaker 1: and Matt Painter are number one in the land. As 1891 01:49:29,760 --> 01:49:32,160 Speaker 1: for the Colts big win yesterday, they sit right now 1892 01:49:32,280 --> 01:49:35,479 Speaker 1: atop the AFC in terms of seeding. If the playoffs 1893 01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:37,280 Speaker 1: began today, which they don't, the Colts will be the 1894 01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:39,439 Speaker 1: number one seed. But one of the guys that's been 1895 01:49:39,439 --> 01:49:41,160 Speaker 1: a big part of that, and he plays in a 1896 01:49:41,280 --> 01:49:44,280 Speaker 1: unit that has really had to dig down deep. Kyle 1897 01:49:44,320 --> 01:49:48,639 Speaker 1: Blackman joins US next second straight game with an interception 1898 01:49:48,720 --> 01:49:50,759 Speaker 1: for Mikai Blackman, and it was a really big one 1899 01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:54,080 Speaker 1: as the Colts get to win yesterday over the Arizona Cardinals. 1900 01:49:54,120 --> 01:49:57,200 Speaker 1: Makai Blackman, by the way, began his college career at 1901 01:49:57,200 --> 01:50:01,400 Speaker 1: the University of Colorado. Several people have asked, and I'm 1902 01:50:01,400 --> 01:50:05,400 Speaker 1: happy to report that in my trip to Denver, Shannon 1903 01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:06,920 Speaker 1: did pick me up at the airport. I did not 1904 01:50:07,080 --> 01:50:09,639 Speaker 1: have to uber one hundred and thirty five bucks from 1905 01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:13,320 Speaker 1: the Denver airport to Highland's Ranch, which is suburban Denver. 1906 01:50:13,400 --> 01:50:15,800 Speaker 1: I mean that airport is like halfway to Kansas, if 1907 01:50:15,800 --> 01:50:17,800 Speaker 1: you really want to know the truth. But joining us 1908 01:50:17,840 --> 01:50:20,519 Speaker 1: now on the Java House, Peel and poor guest line. 1909 01:50:21,360 --> 01:50:22,720 Speaker 1: In just a couple of minutes from now, we will 1910 01:50:22,720 --> 01:50:24,400 Speaker 1: have Mikai Blackman. Do we not have Makay yet? 1911 01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:29,800 Speaker 2: No, they're still meetings. Okay, so my apologies. 1912 01:50:29,840 --> 01:50:31,600 Speaker 1: I thought we had Blackman there, so he will be 1913 01:50:31,680 --> 01:50:34,360 Speaker 1: joining us just a couple of minutes from now. We 1914 01:50:34,400 --> 01:50:37,600 Speaker 1: shall see with Makay Blackman on when he's able to 1915 01:50:37,680 --> 01:50:42,000 Speaker 1: join the show. But again I thought yesterday the you know, 1916 01:50:42,040 --> 01:50:46,240 Speaker 1: that is a unit in terms of that defensive backfield 1917 01:50:46,320 --> 01:50:50,080 Speaker 1: that they continue to have to play through, and obviously 1918 01:50:50,120 --> 01:50:52,360 Speaker 1: you had that yesterday with the news with Shavarius Ward 1919 01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:55,160 Speaker 1: before the game Moony Ward getting the concussion, and it 1920 01:50:55,280 --> 01:50:58,280 Speaker 1: is a unit that has been continued to have to 1921 01:50:58,320 --> 01:51:03,040 Speaker 1: dig further in down to make plays, and it can't 1922 01:51:03,080 --> 01:51:07,479 Speaker 1: be easy, but I've always felt like that is one area, 1923 01:51:08,400 --> 01:51:13,440 Speaker 1: that one unit, if you will, in the defensive backfield, 1924 01:51:14,840 --> 01:51:20,919 Speaker 1: where you know you see guys that can be plugged 1925 01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:25,120 Speaker 1: in at both running back in defensive back are the 1926 01:51:25,160 --> 01:51:28,599 Speaker 1: two positions I've always felt like you can kind of 1927 01:51:28,640 --> 01:51:33,040 Speaker 1: go in and get by on instinct or just overall 1928 01:51:33,120 --> 01:51:36,120 Speaker 1: feel because you're less reliant necessarily on all of the 1929 01:51:36,160 --> 01:51:39,680 Speaker 1: guys that are lighting directly alongside you, like an offensive 1930 01:51:39,680 --> 01:51:42,000 Speaker 1: lineman or a defensive lineman. I think are very reliant 1931 01:51:42,040 --> 01:51:46,320 Speaker 1: on familiarity of teammate around you. And you know, the 1932 01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:49,759 Speaker 1: Colts have had to this year. And I've been critical 1933 01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:52,200 Speaker 1: at Chris Ballard in a lot of areas, but one 1934 01:51:52,240 --> 01:51:54,519 Speaker 1: area where I have to give him some credit is, 1935 01:51:55,040 --> 01:51:57,920 Speaker 1: you know, a year ago when it came to his 1936 01:51:58,200 --> 01:52:00,640 Speaker 1: corners and his safeties, when he just said, look, I 1937 01:52:00,640 --> 01:52:02,760 Speaker 1: got to see these guys play. I'm not going to 1938 01:52:02,840 --> 01:52:06,160 Speaker 1: know what I have until I see them play. And 1939 01:52:06,920 --> 01:52:09,320 Speaker 1: he did have injury at with some of those guys. 1940 01:52:09,439 --> 01:52:14,480 Speaker 1: Juju Bruns comes to mind, but I think he essentially 1941 01:52:14,560 --> 01:52:16,960 Speaker 1: was able to say, Okay, I saw them play. Now, 1942 01:52:17,120 --> 01:52:19,840 Speaker 1: and I've seen them play enough to know that we 1943 01:52:19,960 --> 01:52:23,559 Speaker 1: had to go kind of you know, and shore things up. 1944 01:52:24,040 --> 01:52:27,040 Speaker 1: And and yes, I saw enough of the guys that 1945 01:52:27,160 --> 01:52:31,120 Speaker 1: I had to know that in fact, we've got to 1946 01:52:31,160 --> 01:52:35,160 Speaker 1: go a different way and go shopping. And that's how 1947 01:52:35,160 --> 01:52:36,640 Speaker 1: you end up with Muney Ward. That's how you end 1948 01:52:36,720 --> 01:52:38,680 Speaker 1: up with Cam buying them. And truthfully, that's how you 1949 01:52:38,720 --> 01:52:41,160 Speaker 1: end up with Makai Blackman, who they made the deal 1950 01:52:41,240 --> 01:52:46,080 Speaker 1: for to get him out of Minnesota. And sometimes it's 1951 01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:54,680 Speaker 1: good to bring in differing opinion, differing viewpoint because you 1952 01:52:54,760 --> 01:52:59,439 Speaker 1: can get guys that come in that you know, was 1953 01:52:59,479 --> 01:53:03,360 Speaker 1: it by design? When Daniel Jones came in and we 1954 01:53:03,400 --> 01:53:06,760 Speaker 1: heard what Daniel Jones had to say about playing in Minnesota. Look, 1955 01:53:06,880 --> 01:53:11,400 Speaker 1: this was a franchise in Minnesota that had attention to detail. 1956 01:53:11,840 --> 01:53:15,080 Speaker 1: This is a franchise. What I saw in Minnesota was 1957 01:53:15,120 --> 01:53:22,080 Speaker 1: a group that was locked down and had every single 1958 01:53:22,280 --> 01:53:31,160 Speaker 1: little aspect of each week attention to detail covered. Now 1959 01:53:31,200 --> 01:53:33,879 Speaker 1: does that mean that did that have a factor? 1960 01:53:34,479 --> 01:53:35,120 Speaker 2: And why? 1961 01:53:35,840 --> 01:53:43,240 Speaker 1: Okay, let's that mentality, that footprint of what they are. 1962 01:53:44,160 --> 01:53:46,720 Speaker 1: We've got to get other guys and bring that in. 1963 01:53:46,960 --> 01:53:49,479 Speaker 1: Did Daniel Jones share that in Chris Ballard's like okay? 1964 01:53:49,520 --> 01:53:51,680 Speaker 1: So then Therefore, I'm comfortable with getting a guy and 1965 01:53:51,720 --> 01:53:54,000 Speaker 1: making a trade for a guy like Blackman who's coming 1966 01:53:54,000 --> 01:53:55,439 Speaker 1: from there. You know, I don't know. I don't know 1967 01:53:55,439 --> 01:53:59,160 Speaker 1: if that was a factor or not. But I think 1968 01:53:59,200 --> 01:54:07,680 Speaker 1: it's interesting that Shane Steiken so adamantly preached the importance 1969 01:54:07,760 --> 01:54:12,840 Speaker 1: of that detail and now they're getting contribution from guys 1970 01:54:12,880 --> 01:54:17,000 Speaker 1: that are coming from an organization that that detail was 1971 01:54:17,040 --> 01:54:21,440 Speaker 1: important and was a key ingredient to what made Minnesota 1972 01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:23,920 Speaker 1: a year ago successful. And then the other thing, and 1973 01:54:23,960 --> 01:54:26,640 Speaker 1: this is a conversation for a much further down the 1974 01:54:26,640 --> 01:54:29,599 Speaker 1: way road. But the other thing that comes into play 1975 01:54:29,760 --> 01:54:32,560 Speaker 1: or that is of interest is if you look at 1976 01:54:32,560 --> 01:54:35,880 Speaker 1: Minnesota a year ago, with that in Sam Bradford and 1977 01:54:35,920 --> 01:54:40,000 Speaker 1: the reclamation project that was Sam Bradford, they still decided 1978 01:54:40,440 --> 01:54:43,000 Speaker 1: to go in another direction. And yes, they had a 1979 01:54:43,000 --> 01:54:45,480 Speaker 1: young quarterback in the wings and JJ McCarthy who they 1980 01:54:45,560 --> 01:54:48,880 Speaker 1: had to get healthy, and Bradford's playing well in Seattle now, 1981 01:54:49,560 --> 01:54:54,680 Speaker 1: and so the Colts themselves. I think with each passing 1982 01:54:54,720 --> 01:54:57,560 Speaker 1: week we are seeing more and more the cement of 1983 01:54:57,600 --> 01:54:59,800 Speaker 1: the fact that that is not going to be of question. 1984 01:55:00,040 --> 01:55:02,680 Speaker 1: It comes to the future of Daniel Jones. But who knows. 1985 01:55:03,560 --> 01:55:05,600 Speaker 1: Do the Colts look at it at the end of 1986 01:55:05,640 --> 01:55:10,040 Speaker 1: the year and say, Okay, this is a Sam Bradford situation. 1987 01:55:10,200 --> 01:55:12,520 Speaker 1: We got this far, but we feel like we have 1988 01:55:12,600 --> 01:55:14,640 Speaker 1: somebody that we can plug in this. I don't think 1989 01:55:14,680 --> 01:55:17,880 Speaker 1: that's going to be the case. What this guy's doing 1990 01:55:19,600 --> 01:55:25,120 Speaker 1: in the Composure and Daniel Jones is fascinating to me 1991 01:55:25,400 --> 01:55:28,520 Speaker 1: because after games the guy seems like he's like two 1992 01:55:28,560 --> 01:55:31,200 Speaker 1: aspens from a coma. Like he comes in is just 1993 01:55:31,440 --> 01:55:34,720 Speaker 1: very even Keel doesn't seem to be a huge raw 1994 01:55:34,840 --> 01:55:39,120 Speaker 1: Rah build him up guy, but the approach that he's 1995 01:55:39,160 --> 01:55:42,200 Speaker 1: had and then the ability to go out and bounce 1996 01:55:42,320 --> 01:55:45,320 Speaker 1: back from adversity in game. It's one thing to have 1997 01:55:45,400 --> 01:55:48,720 Speaker 1: adversity and have a week to come back from it, 1998 01:55:49,480 --> 01:55:52,120 Speaker 1: but it's another to have adversity and have a drive 1999 01:55:52,360 --> 01:55:54,680 Speaker 1: to have to come back for like the next possession, 2000 01:55:56,080 --> 01:56:00,480 Speaker 1: to play possession to possession. That is in itself a challenge, right, 2001 01:56:01,040 --> 01:56:04,440 Speaker 1: And so I think Jones, when you look at it, 2002 01:56:04,960 --> 01:56:06,720 Speaker 1: you've got to give him a ton of credit for 2003 01:56:06,760 --> 01:56:13,560 Speaker 1: the fact that that is. You know, there's a professionalism 2004 01:56:13,600 --> 01:56:21,960 Speaker 1: there that just comes from being that goldfish, and so 2005 01:56:22,200 --> 01:56:27,120 Speaker 1: far it's masterful and the way that it has worked. 2006 01:56:27,200 --> 01:56:31,680 Speaker 1: And I never thought I would say this. I never 2007 01:56:31,720 --> 01:56:33,240 Speaker 1: thought at the beginning of the year I would say it. 2008 01:56:33,280 --> 01:56:35,520 Speaker 1: And six games does not a season make. They're not 2009 01:56:35,600 --> 01:56:37,320 Speaker 1: even a third of the way through the year. But 2010 01:56:37,560 --> 01:56:40,160 Speaker 1: right now, Daniel Jones is right in the mix and 2011 01:56:40,200 --> 01:56:43,880 Speaker 1: in the discussion for MVP conversation in the National Football League, 2012 01:56:44,680 --> 01:56:47,480 Speaker 1: And if you're the Giants, or for that matter, of 2013 01:56:47,480 --> 01:56:49,040 Speaker 1: the Vikings, you got to be looking at it going, 2014 01:56:49,520 --> 01:56:51,000 Speaker 1: how do we let this guy get out the door? 2015 01:56:52,200 --> 01:56:54,640 Speaker 1: Is he Joe Montana probably not? Is he Tom Brady 2016 01:56:54,680 --> 01:56:57,800 Speaker 1: probably not? Is he Andrew luck probably not? Is he 2017 01:56:57,840 --> 01:57:01,320 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes probably not. But he's really solid. And what 2018 01:57:01,360 --> 01:57:05,040 Speaker 1: the Colts have done is built a very solid foundation 2019 01:57:05,280 --> 01:57:09,160 Speaker 1: around him and give him the weapons that are necessary. 2020 01:57:09,480 --> 01:57:11,560 Speaker 1: And yet, Tyler Warren, we probably haven't talked enough about 2021 01:57:11,600 --> 01:57:13,920 Speaker 1: him today. I could probably do three hours tomorrow doing 2022 01:57:13,920 --> 01:57:16,920 Speaker 1: nothing but talking about Tyler Warren and the ability to 2023 01:57:17,040 --> 01:57:19,839 Speaker 1: put him in different spots, put him in different areas, 2024 01:57:20,360 --> 01:57:23,120 Speaker 1: get the touchdown pass to him, use him as a blocker, 2025 01:57:23,360 --> 01:57:26,520 Speaker 1: opening up holes for Jonathan Taylor, polling with Quentin Nelson. 2026 01:57:26,720 --> 01:57:30,680 Speaker 1: All of those things are enabled and facilitated by the 2027 01:57:30,800 --> 01:57:34,280 Speaker 1: fact that Tyler Warren is on the field. And if 2028 01:57:34,320 --> 01:57:36,040 Speaker 1: you're just joining us on the show today, the other 2029 01:57:36,080 --> 01:57:39,800 Speaker 1: big news in the NFL today is the fact that Tennessee, 2030 01:57:40,240 --> 01:57:43,120 Speaker 1: and it's notable because of the fact that Tennessee is 2031 01:57:43,160 --> 01:57:48,160 Speaker 1: within the AFC South Brian Callahan out in Tennessee and 2032 01:57:48,200 --> 01:57:51,480 Speaker 1: that could theoretically set back Tennessee for a while because 2033 01:57:51,680 --> 01:57:54,840 Speaker 1: you have a young quarterback, a number one overall pick, 2034 01:57:55,040 --> 01:57:57,560 Speaker 1: and I'm telling you it is so important to have 2035 01:57:57,640 --> 01:58:02,960 Speaker 1: stability around a young player like that. And for cam Ward, 2036 01:58:03,320 --> 01:58:06,520 Speaker 1: it's Trevor Lawrence with Urban Meyer and that fiasco all 2037 01:58:06,560 --> 01:58:08,720 Speaker 1: over again, where you're looking at it and you're like, look, 2038 01:58:08,760 --> 01:58:10,480 Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out where I want to be 2039 01:58:10,640 --> 01:58:13,520 Speaker 1: here and what I want to be And now all 2040 01:58:13,520 --> 01:58:14,880 Speaker 1: of a sudden, I got to go through a coaching 2041 01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:18,040 Speaker 1: change six games into my NFL career. The hell are 2042 01:58:18,040 --> 01:58:22,240 Speaker 1: we doing? And the other big story is that of 2043 01:58:22,280 --> 01:58:26,560 Speaker 1: the AP Top twenty five preseason college basketball poll. Yeah, 2044 01:58:26,600 --> 01:58:29,640 Speaker 1: I get it, Jake, preseason polls, What does that mean? 2045 01:58:30,160 --> 01:58:30,600 Speaker 2: I get it. 2046 01:58:30,640 --> 01:58:33,120 Speaker 1: There's always a couple of teams in the preseason top 2047 01:58:33,160 --> 01:58:35,640 Speaker 1: twenty five. Who are the top two teams in the 2048 01:58:35,640 --> 01:58:40,320 Speaker 1: preseason College football poll Texas and Penn State. One just 2049 01:58:40,320 --> 01:58:42,600 Speaker 1: found their way back into the top twenty five and 2050 01:58:42,640 --> 01:58:48,080 Speaker 1: the other is cruising LinkedIn for a coach. So take 2051 01:58:48,120 --> 01:58:53,080 Speaker 1: with a great assault the preseason top twenty five. But nonetheless, 2052 01:58:53,760 --> 01:59:00,120 Speaker 1: nonetheless not a huge surprise, of course, but back or 2053 01:59:00,240 --> 01:59:02,960 Speaker 1: they have belonged for the last couple of years, that 2054 01:59:03,080 --> 01:59:08,640 Speaker 1: dynamic trio, Trey Kaufman, Wren Fletcher, Lawyer, Braiden Smith, amongst others, 2055 01:59:09,040 --> 01:59:12,480 Speaker 1: Matt Painters, Perdue Boiler Makers are the number one team 2056 01:59:12,640 --> 01:59:16,080 Speaker 1: in college basketball, the number one team in the land 2057 01:59:16,120 --> 01:59:20,880 Speaker 1: in the preseason Top twenty five, Perdue, and yes, they're 2058 01:59:20,880 --> 01:59:22,680 Speaker 1: gonna have a target on their back, but you know what, 2059 01:59:22,760 --> 01:59:24,760 Speaker 1: we talked about it with Mike de Corsi last week. 2060 01:59:26,960 --> 01:59:31,120 Speaker 1: I think Braden Smith likes that. It's funny because Braiden 2061 01:59:31,160 --> 01:59:33,600 Speaker 1: Smith's a guy that was basically off radar for the 2062 01:59:33,640 --> 01:59:36,120 Speaker 1: better part of his coming of age as a basketball player, 2063 01:59:36,280 --> 01:59:39,920 Speaker 1: and now on radar doesn't seem to bother them at all. 2064 01:59:40,000 --> 01:59:44,320 Speaker 1: And what Matt Painter has done is incredible because in 2065 01:59:44,400 --> 01:59:49,120 Speaker 1: the transfer portal nil era, Perdue basketball has had this 2066 01:59:49,280 --> 01:59:52,320 Speaker 1: stability year in and year out, where you know, every 2067 01:59:52,400 --> 01:59:56,160 Speaker 1: year the faces may change, the names may change, but 2068 01:59:56,800 --> 02:00:00,400 Speaker 1: the blueprint and the style stays the same. And to 2069 02:00:00,400 --> 02:00:05,560 Speaker 1: be able to maintain a cohesive corps in today's era 2070 02:00:06,520 --> 02:00:11,600 Speaker 1: is remarkable and rare. I mean rare. You just don't 2071 02:00:11,640 --> 02:00:16,000 Speaker 1: see it. You don't see it in today's day. But 2072 02:00:16,120 --> 02:00:18,520 Speaker 1: yet Matt Pain has this. And I go back to 2073 02:00:19,320 --> 02:00:21,720 Speaker 1: what I talked about with Mike de Corsi. I remember 2074 02:00:21,760 --> 02:00:24,760 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, marquee player Perdue was in 2075 02:00:24,800 --> 02:00:27,800 Speaker 1: the discussion to land said player. Then all of a sudden, 2076 02:00:29,080 --> 02:00:32,080 Speaker 1: Perdue was like, nowhere to be found in recruiting said player. 2077 02:00:32,360 --> 02:00:37,600 Speaker 1: And I ask him, this player is allegedly interested in Purdue, 2078 02:00:37,920 --> 02:00:41,680 Speaker 1: but Purdue doesn't seem to have reciprocal interest. And the 2079 02:00:41,760 --> 02:00:45,200 Speaker 1: response I got back was, that's because that is a handout, 2080 02:00:45,240 --> 02:00:46,760 Speaker 1: pay for play, kid, and we don't want any part 2081 02:00:46,760 --> 02:00:50,200 Speaker 1: of it. And that goes back to culture. Joining us 2082 02:00:50,240 --> 02:00:52,640 Speaker 1: now on the Java House, Peel and poor guest line 2083 02:00:53,000 --> 02:00:55,680 Speaker 1: he had yesterday his second interception in as many games 2084 02:00:55,680 --> 02:00:58,440 Speaker 1: for the Colts. Makai Blackman, the cornerback for Indianapolis, joining 2085 02:00:58,520 --> 02:00:59,160 Speaker 1: us on the show. 2086 02:00:59,360 --> 02:01:01,800 Speaker 2: Mikayle Hi, you I'm doing good? 2087 02:01:01,800 --> 02:01:02,400 Speaker 6: What about you? 2088 02:01:02,760 --> 02:01:03,680 Speaker 2: Uh? Listen? 2089 02:01:03,720 --> 02:01:06,440 Speaker 1: Man, like the whole city like a cloud nine here, right, 2090 02:01:06,520 --> 02:01:09,000 Speaker 1: and the fact that let me ask you something and 2091 02:01:09,080 --> 02:01:11,560 Speaker 1: be honest, if I would have told you at the 2092 02:01:11,560 --> 02:01:12,840 Speaker 1: time that you found out you were going to be 2093 02:01:12,840 --> 02:01:14,920 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, cult that there's six games, you were going 2094 02:01:15,000 --> 02:01:16,480 Speaker 1: to be the number one seed in the AFC, you 2095 02:01:16,480 --> 02:01:16,880 Speaker 1: would have. 2096 02:01:16,800 --> 02:01:17,400 Speaker 2: Said what to me? 2097 02:01:18,840 --> 02:01:19,920 Speaker 6: I would have said, I believe you. 2098 02:01:20,920 --> 02:01:25,400 Speaker 2: That's why you're there, right, Yeah, I believe you. What 2099 02:01:25,560 --> 02:01:26,000 Speaker 2: about it? 2100 02:01:26,680 --> 02:01:28,920 Speaker 1: Let me I mean, aside from the obvious, which is, hey, 2101 02:01:28,960 --> 02:01:31,720 Speaker 1: if you play there, you gotta believe I get that, right, 2102 02:01:32,160 --> 02:01:34,680 Speaker 1: But what is it? What is it that has managed 2103 02:01:34,720 --> 02:01:36,680 Speaker 1: to have everything come together like this? 2104 02:01:38,120 --> 02:01:40,120 Speaker 6: I mean, I would say, just in my short time here, 2105 02:01:40,720 --> 02:01:43,400 Speaker 6: you could tell the coaches, the you know, supports to 2106 02:01:43,440 --> 02:01:46,160 Speaker 6: have everybody is close, tight knit, so you know, even 2107 02:01:46,760 --> 02:01:49,320 Speaker 6: pregame with us, just you know, going around shaking everybody 2108 02:01:49,400 --> 02:01:49,640 Speaker 6: up in. 2109 02:01:49,560 --> 02:01:50,000 Speaker 2: The team room. 2110 02:01:50,040 --> 02:01:52,400 Speaker 6: I would say, that's a big part of it. That's 2111 02:01:52,440 --> 02:01:54,080 Speaker 6: the first time I kind of seen people, you know, 2112 02:01:54,560 --> 02:01:56,560 Speaker 6: interact that way. So I would say, just the group 2113 02:01:56,600 --> 02:01:59,600 Speaker 6: being tight knit. You know, nobody want to let anyone down, 2114 02:01:59,640 --> 02:02:01,160 Speaker 6: Everybody trying to do their job to the best of 2115 02:02:01,160 --> 02:02:03,400 Speaker 6: their abilities, you know, for the person that they playing with. 2116 02:02:03,520 --> 02:02:05,800 Speaker 6: So I would say that's the main part when you. 2117 02:02:05,720 --> 02:02:08,680 Speaker 1: Talk about the locker room in general. I want to 2118 02:02:08,720 --> 02:02:11,840 Speaker 1: go back to yesterday before the game and just if 2119 02:02:11,880 --> 02:02:16,040 Speaker 1: you could, for us and for fans explain just kind 2120 02:02:16,040 --> 02:02:19,160 Speaker 1: of the mindset of the bizarre nature of Anthony Richardson 2121 02:02:19,160 --> 02:02:22,160 Speaker 1: getting hurt in the locker room, Mooney Ward getting hurt 2122 02:02:22,200 --> 02:02:25,240 Speaker 1: on the field and having to kind of process all 2123 02:02:25,280 --> 02:02:26,520 Speaker 1: of that and then go out and play. 2124 02:02:27,560 --> 02:02:30,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you can't really script it any crazier 2125 02:02:30,520 --> 02:02:33,800 Speaker 6: than that. That's something I've never seen before. But like 2126 02:02:33,840 --> 02:02:36,560 Speaker 6: I said, we have a tight knit group. Everybody trusts everybody, 2127 02:02:36,600 --> 02:02:40,520 Speaker 6: regardless the situation. Those two guys went down unfortunately, but 2128 02:02:41,720 --> 02:02:43,200 Speaker 6: you know, we kind of got the guys you know 2129 02:02:43,560 --> 02:02:46,160 Speaker 6: that were next line. Everybody has to step up and 2130 02:02:46,200 --> 02:02:48,280 Speaker 6: do their job. So I feel like we did that yesterday. 2131 02:02:48,920 --> 02:02:50,960 Speaker 6: We came out with the win. So just hoping those 2132 02:02:51,000 --> 02:02:52,440 Speaker 6: guys get healthy as soon as possible. 2133 02:02:52,680 --> 02:02:55,960 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones said after the game, Makay Kyle Blackman is 2134 02:02:55,960 --> 02:02:57,400 Speaker 1: our guest on the job of house peel and poor 2135 02:02:57,440 --> 02:03:00,320 Speaker 1: guest line. He said after the game that when he 2136 02:03:00,360 --> 02:03:02,960 Speaker 1: was in Minnesota, the thing that most impressed him about 2137 02:03:02,960 --> 02:03:06,800 Speaker 1: what he learned with the Vikings was the attention to 2138 02:03:06,880 --> 02:03:11,880 Speaker 1: detail and just within that that franchise and you get it, 2139 02:03:11,920 --> 02:03:14,480 Speaker 1: you were there. Can can you elaborate on that and 2140 02:03:14,800 --> 02:03:17,600 Speaker 1: how you have been able to see that in Indianapolis. 2141 02:03:18,680 --> 02:03:21,720 Speaker 6: I just feel like even Dang before he went to Minnesota, 2142 02:03:21,720 --> 02:03:22,960 Speaker 6: I feel like he was a guy you know that 2143 02:03:23,040 --> 02:03:27,080 Speaker 6: took that detailed process. But I felct the quarterback situation 2144 02:03:27,200 --> 02:03:29,680 Speaker 6: over there in Minnesota they kind of handle it similar 2145 02:03:29,680 --> 02:03:32,480 Speaker 6: to how djsss he is here. So I mean, I 2146 02:03:32,480 --> 02:03:34,560 Speaker 6: would just say it goes hand in hand. Dj is 2147 02:03:34,560 --> 02:03:36,200 Speaker 6: a guy who he wants to be prepared and you know, 2148 02:03:36,280 --> 02:03:39,240 Speaker 6: being invested in for the team because he is our 2149 02:03:39,320 --> 02:03:41,560 Speaker 6: leader in our quarterback. So I would say that's just 2150 02:03:41,640 --> 02:03:43,360 Speaker 6: kind of the guy he is and wanting to, you know, 2151 02:03:43,480 --> 02:03:45,640 Speaker 6: do everything the right way and have things done on 2152 02:03:45,760 --> 02:03:46,800 Speaker 6: time and on schedule. 2153 02:03:47,560 --> 02:03:51,200 Speaker 1: How challenging has it been as a unit for the 2154 02:03:51,280 --> 02:03:55,840 Speaker 1: defensive backfield to not have continuity at the fault of nobody, 2155 02:03:55,880 --> 02:03:57,880 Speaker 1: I mean due to attrition and injury in general. Right 2156 02:03:57,920 --> 02:04:00,000 Speaker 1: in Jalen Jones being out, you know, the different injury 2157 02:04:00,080 --> 02:04:02,080 Speaker 1: as you guys have had to deal with Maay, how 2158 02:04:02,160 --> 02:04:03,080 Speaker 1: challenging is that. 2159 02:04:04,480 --> 02:04:07,080 Speaker 6: I mean, I guess that's what makes the NFL so special. 2160 02:04:07,800 --> 02:04:10,040 Speaker 6: We signed the guy who's past, we think he wound 2161 02:04:10,120 --> 02:04:12,400 Speaker 6: up playing a lot of snaps. I mean it's just 2162 02:04:12,720 --> 02:04:15,480 Speaker 6: you know, just kind of getting everybody communicating. Like I said, 2163 02:04:15,480 --> 02:04:17,400 Speaker 6: we still have a close knit group. We kind of brought. 2164 02:04:17,520 --> 02:04:19,680 Speaker 6: We bring the guys along. I mean, I'm gonna been 2165 02:04:19,720 --> 02:04:24,080 Speaker 6: here six six weeks myself, so I would say, even 2166 02:04:24,160 --> 02:04:25,880 Speaker 6: me just getting you know, caught up. And I'm kind 2167 02:04:25,880 --> 02:04:28,240 Speaker 6: of a guy who's looked at as an older guy 2168 02:04:28,320 --> 02:04:30,360 Speaker 6: now and I've only been here six months of lives 2169 02:04:30,360 --> 02:04:31,960 Speaker 6: coming in. I'm trying to get those guys caught up 2170 02:04:32,000 --> 02:04:35,440 Speaker 6: as well. Like I said, the next man, regardless of 2171 02:04:35,720 --> 02:04:38,920 Speaker 6: somebody goes down, gets hurt, is out. I guess we 2172 02:04:39,040 --> 02:04:41,520 Speaker 6: kind of all, you know, had that mindset of the team. 2173 02:04:41,920 --> 02:04:44,440 Speaker 1: Okay, lastly, before we let you go, Macaw, I got 2174 02:04:44,480 --> 02:04:47,720 Speaker 1: to ask you this. You finished your college career at USC, right, 2175 02:04:47,760 --> 02:04:51,720 Speaker 1: you started at Colorado, you finished at USC, correct? Yes, Okay, 2176 02:04:51,760 --> 02:04:53,640 Speaker 1: so I'd like to know this which is more bizarre 2177 02:04:53,680 --> 02:04:56,000 Speaker 1: for you to still think that USC now is a 2178 02:04:56,040 --> 02:04:58,240 Speaker 1: Big ten team, or to think that the Big Ten 2179 02:04:58,320 --> 02:05:02,040 Speaker 1: champions are going to be the Indiana fighting Hoosiers. 2180 02:05:03,160 --> 02:05:04,960 Speaker 6: So I feel like you're trying to bait me into something. 2181 02:05:05,080 --> 02:05:09,840 Speaker 6: But no, Wolf, I don't really. I'm not gonna get 2182 02:05:09,880 --> 02:05:12,480 Speaker 6: into the You know, USC is my alma manter. Y'all 2183 02:05:12,480 --> 02:05:15,160 Speaker 6: got a few teams that we play against in Indiana 2184 02:05:15,200 --> 02:05:18,840 Speaker 6: and Notre Dame and stuff like that, So I don't know. 2185 02:05:18,880 --> 02:05:21,480 Speaker 1: Man, how about those Hoosiers? Come on, you give up 2186 02:05:21,480 --> 02:05:22,760 Speaker 1: some love for Indiana. 2187 02:05:22,880 --> 02:05:25,920 Speaker 6: Come on, you are playing real good football a right now, 2188 02:05:25,960 --> 02:05:28,160 Speaker 6: so let's congress you guys. I guess someone Indiana who's 2189 02:05:28,160 --> 02:05:28,480 Speaker 6: your fan? 2190 02:05:28,520 --> 02:05:28,680 Speaker 3: Now? 2191 02:05:28,920 --> 02:05:30,280 Speaker 2: I like that? I like that. 2192 02:05:30,360 --> 02:05:32,920 Speaker 1: Well, listen, so two of the Colts playing great football 2193 02:05:32,920 --> 02:05:35,440 Speaker 1: obviously right now at five and one big pick yesterday 2194 02:05:35,520 --> 02:05:36,640 Speaker 1: that was a huge part of the game. 2195 02:05:36,920 --> 02:05:38,320 Speaker 2: Certainly appreciate the time today. 2196 02:05:38,360 --> 02:05:41,080 Speaker 1: Congratulations, and we will get you on to work now 2197 02:05:41,160 --> 02:05:42,720 Speaker 1: getting ready for the Chargers. 2198 02:05:43,040 --> 02:05:44,360 Speaker 6: Yes, sir, have a good day, all right. 2199 02:05:44,360 --> 02:05:46,800 Speaker 1: Makayy Blackman joining us on the Java house peeling poor 2200 02:05:46,840 --> 02:05:47,840 Speaker 1: guest line way over. 2201 02:05:48,000 --> 02:05:49,760 Speaker 2: John is in. We will hand it off to him. 2202 02:05:49,800 --> 02:05:50,200 Speaker 2: We'll do it. 2203 02:05:50,240 --> 02:05:53,400 Speaker 1: Brought to you by Love heating in their next By 2204 02:05:53,440 --> 02:05:55,440 Speaker 1: the way, appreciate everybody that road in. I don't know 2205 02:05:55,480 --> 02:05:57,040 Speaker 1: what name I said when I was talking about Sam 2206 02:05:57,120 --> 02:05:58,280 Speaker 1: Darnold Minnesota. 2207 02:05:59,200 --> 02:06:00,560 Speaker 2: I think I said Sam Bradford. 2208 02:06:00,640 --> 02:06:02,320 Speaker 1: I have no idea what that name would have come 2209 02:06:02,360 --> 02:06:07,840 Speaker 1: to mind, But what's the Bradfords. That's right, Sacramento, California. 2210 02:06:07,880 --> 02:06:10,440 Speaker 1: Baby H, Jay and B has arrived. It is time 2211 02:06:10,480 --> 02:06:12,080 Speaker 1: for the cross over. The handoff brought to you by 2212 02:06:12,120 --> 02:06:14,840 Speaker 1: Love Heating and Air Love dash hvac dot com is 2213 02:06:14,880 --> 02:06:15,640 Speaker 1: the website. 2214 02:06:15,840 --> 02:06:18,360 Speaker 2: Big show lined up? John, Uh, what we got? 2215 02:06:18,560 --> 02:06:22,040 Speaker 10: Steven Holder and Matt Surface former Hoosier good at join 2216 02:06:22,160 --> 02:06:23,080 Speaker 10: us with Iu. 2217 02:06:23,200 --> 02:06:24,680 Speaker 2: I went to the Hyper today and played a little 2218 02:06:24,680 --> 02:06:27,760 Speaker 2: hoop at noon? Is you really? I did? I did? 2219 02:06:27,920 --> 02:06:30,440 Speaker 10: And it was very hyper s because, uh, it took 2220 02:06:30,480 --> 02:06:32,040 Speaker 10: me forever to park, and then I had to pay 2221 02:06:32,080 --> 02:06:35,360 Speaker 10: like ten dollars to stay there for like fifty minutes. 2222 02:06:35,400 --> 02:06:36,840 Speaker 1: I als got to kick out of the Hyper because 2223 02:06:36,880 --> 02:06:39,080 Speaker 1: you'd have five guys that like all played together at 2224 02:06:39,080 --> 02:06:41,720 Speaker 1: you know, Ellwood High School out there, seven screens running. 2225 02:06:41,480 --> 02:06:44,160 Speaker 10: A motion offense, playing pickup ball, and yeah, the world 2226 02:06:44,160 --> 02:06:45,960 Speaker 10: the tickets left over parking tickets. 2227 02:06:46,080 --> 02:06:47,840 Speaker 2: I bet if they checked into my name, I bet 2228 02:06:47,840 --> 02:06:48,400 Speaker 2: I have a ton. 2229 02:06:48,520 --> 02:06:50,320 Speaker 1: Jay Edwards had like eight hundred bucks of them in 2230 02:06:50,320 --> 02:06:54,080 Speaker 1: one semester, right, including parking and the president. 2231 02:06:53,760 --> 02:06:56,960 Speaker 10: Of the university spot for prepoint range, no doubt. 2232 02:06:57,080 --> 02:07:01,040 Speaker 1: Right, all right, John's up next, talking cold. Obviously, I you, 2233 02:07:01,280 --> 02:07:04,080 Speaker 1: and again Purdue ranked number one in college basketball. 2234 02:07:04,560 --> 02:07:06,680 Speaker 2: We will be back with you at noon tomorrow, and 2235 02:07:06,680 --> 02:07:08,240 Speaker 2: I thank you for listening to the Query Company.