1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: The Colts have announced their first Now I have to 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: say this, of course, unofficial depth chart of the preseason. 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: No real surprise except for that at the quarterback position. 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 1: It simply says Daniel Jones or Anthony Richardson a couple 5 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: of other spots we can discuss joining us now to 6 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: do that and more. He is, of course, with CBS four, 7 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: WXA and Fox fifty nine, the dean of all riders 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: when it comes to the Colts, Mike Chappell joining us 9 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: on the show, Chap I'm sure you saw the depth 10 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: chart released by the Colts before we get to that. 11 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: I'm curious of this, do you and how many of 12 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: us do you need to help you move? Because I 13 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: saw that Jim Mersey's home has it is a pending 14 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: cash sale for over the asking price of twelve million. 15 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: My understanding is it's about twenty five percent more than 16 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: that that was offered in cash, and you move in. 17 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: When well, I tried to low ball them, so you 18 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: know my five point five mill I was gonna I had. 19 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 2: I had large bills in the back of my car 20 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 2: that I was going to take there, and they said, hey, yeah, 21 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 2: right buddy. 22 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right right in a couple of coupons too. 23 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 1: You had coupons, right. 24 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I might have been able to rent the the 25 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: ice rink that I believe he's got, uh, or one 26 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 2: of the guest houses. 27 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: Maybe I've heard the two guest houses are fabulous, you know, 28 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: in all honesty, Chap, what's that they are? You know? 29 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: It does make you curious. I think that the and 30 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: there's going to be you watch. I mean, there will 31 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: be all kinds of speculation and guessing games as to 32 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: who bought it until it's announced. I don't know that, 33 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: But I don't think we can rule out the possibility, Chap, 34 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: that that an out of market simply investor purchased it 35 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: just for the land itself, or to you know, to 36 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: to build two homes on there, or sell those again individually, 37 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: whatever it might be, right, I mean, there's any number 38 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: of factors that could go out. 39 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: But they to think you would do that and tear 40 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 2: that place down. I understand what you're saying, But and again, 41 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 2: that's that's that's a world I am simply not familiar with. 42 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: I've got a rental property, We've got the wife and 43 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: her brother got two rental properties in betro We're trying 44 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: to sell and if anybody's interested, give me a call. Uh, 45 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: And it's is the land is important, that that's what's valuable, 46 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 2: not not the houses that are on it. Well, I 47 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 2: just can't see an investor thing, you know, I can 48 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 2: I can put like three properties there or three houses. 49 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: I just think that this is somebody that's got kind 50 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 2: of hate to say, too much money in their hands. 51 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: But maybe that's the case. I don't know. 52 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: I've heard, you know, some renovation. My understanding is there 53 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: are some renovations. I mean, like any any property. I 54 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 1: don't mean that a bad way at all, right, I 55 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: mean Jim Orsay owned it for what thirty years, right, 56 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: so you know. But then on top of that, I 57 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: don't think there I don't think. I don't even know 58 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: if there was an inspection, so I think it was. 59 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: You know, you hear people that blind purchase stuff like 60 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: that just as an investment, so you know, we'll see. 61 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: But it is fascinating. And then of course everybody's, oh, 62 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: it's Bernard Ryman bought it, you know, Peyton Bonnett tear 63 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: it down, and you know, YadA YadA YadA. But all right, 64 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: let's get to this. Let me tell you the one 65 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: thing on the depth chart that, uh, I'm not gonna 66 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: say surprise me, but I thought was interesting, and that's 67 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: a tight end. The Colts website right now has for 68 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: their depth chart at tight end title Warren. No surprise there, 69 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: mo Alei Cox, no surprise there, because he can do 70 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: some things that Warren. It's not that Warren can't do them, 71 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: but that you wouldn't ask Warre necessarily to do as much, 72 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: and that's being like, you know, run game blocker, et cetera. 73 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: I was a little intrigued by this, and I know 74 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: he's a good player, but Drew Ogletree one spot in 75 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: front of Will Mallory. You know, I think Mallory has 76 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: had a really good camp. But do we read into 77 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: that in any way, shape or form. And how many 78 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: tight ends do they carry? 79 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 2: Probably four? And I would I would guard against anybody 80 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 2: reading anything into the first unofficial depth chart because teams 81 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: have to do it, we pay attention to it. But 82 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 2: this isn't the first time the Colts had an or 83 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 2: I'm telling who it was last year. The year before, 84 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 2: we had a couple of oars. Whether they were at 85 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: can't I can't remember what positions they were, but it's 86 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 2: an interesting piece. And again these are this is met 87 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: CONTI going in. I think that the coaches and hey, 88 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 2: we need a depth chart, and each position coach says okay, 89 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 2: hang on them and takes them, you know, thirty seconds 90 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 2: to jot down names. But it's a guideline, is all 91 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 2: it is. I am with you. I The one guy 92 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 2: that I've noticed in camp that maybe people aren't paying 93 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 2: attention to is Will Mallory. I think he's got a 94 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 2: really good camp drew ography as well. But I think 95 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 2: they keep four tight ends because because when that's how 96 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 2: Shane's shan Stock and loves him some tight ends. He 97 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 2: just hasn't had tight ends to really love the last, 98 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 2: you know, since since Jack Doyle left. But Tyler Warren's 99 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 2: been everything we anticipated. He dropped the ball the other day, 100 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 2: I'm thinking, what in the hell did I just see? 101 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: It was behind him and he got one hand on it, 102 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: and you expect him to make that catch because he's 103 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 2: made him so. And it was interesting that, for whatever 104 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: you want to make of it, is Tanner Bordolini is 105 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 2: the starting center ahead of Danny Penri and they have 106 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: literally divvied up the snaps at center, as has Richardson 107 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: and Jones. But it's just it's a guideline and it 108 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 2: gives you a little bit of insight, but not a lot. 109 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: You know, at the receiver position, Chap, Mike Chapel is 110 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: our guest, No real surprises at the receiver position, you know, 111 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: Pittman and then Ashton Jel Duelan behind him. Then on 112 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: the other side Alec with Ady Mitchell, who I think 113 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: kind of resembles Anthony Richardson in the fact that he's 114 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: made some good strides but then also taking a little 115 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: bit of a step back. What really I find bothers 116 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: him is the receiver spot. You got Pierce Mitchell, then 117 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: DJ Montgomery, Blaine Taylor, and then land and Parker. So 118 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: my guy land In Parker just because he looks like 119 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: Jeff mccoley. That looks like he's got high odds stacked 120 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: against him, right, Chap. 121 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 2: So so you take offense to that on the depth chart? Yeah? 122 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying? 123 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: That's my guy Landon Parker is my guy? 124 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 2: Do you take us? Hopefully you don't take offense where 125 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 2: I say, men, you need to get a license. It 126 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: is funny because Joel Erickson picks out a guy, uh 127 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: every camp and it was the linebacker at JK, I 128 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 2: think it is and we get on him about that, 129 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 2: and the guys had a pretty good camp. But no, 130 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 2: it is kind of cool to find because again, one 131 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 2: or two of these guys are gonna make it. I 132 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: don't think receiver. They're going to probably keep six receivers 133 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 2: on the active roster and then they'll keep three practice 134 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: squad probably, so your guy probably has a shot there. 135 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 2: But it's a good thing that right now, Aston Dulan 136 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: is your five and Anthony Gould is your six, and 137 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,679 Speaker 2: that's a good that's a good problem, a good issue 138 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 2: to have to have players of who are both having 139 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 2: pretty good camps. At receiver, which which is a good 140 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: thing for Goold because he's been primarily a return guy 141 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: is playing really well given the chance on offense, so 142 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: against so many positions. I like, what's going on. Still 143 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 2: not crazy about linebacker, and all of a sudden they're 144 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: they're their proven depth at cornerback is getting tested, yes, 145 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 2: by by hamstring injuries, and that's a little bit of 146 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 2: a concern. 147 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: And let's let's piggyback off that chap. When you talk 148 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: about ham strings. That's a problematic area, right where like 149 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: sometimes guy that can linger for guys but typically speaking 150 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: or has there been any indication to this when you're 151 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: talking about Jalen Jones and Juju Brents both, Has there 152 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: been any hint at all or even based on precedent 153 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: how much they would miss moving forward, only. 154 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: That Shane Stocking said that that Jalen Joneses was more 155 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: I think his term was more severe. You never like 156 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: to hear the word severe come from a coach because 157 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 2: they don't like those words. And we didn't get a 158 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 2: day to day week to week here he's going to 159 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 2: miss some time. And again I I Jalen Jones needs 160 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 2: work in this new system, but he's started gosh twenty 161 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 2: seven games the last two years, so they know what 162 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 2: they've got with him. Juju Brent's for Karnaut Loud. He 163 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: needs to he needs to stay on the field. And 164 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 2: here's a case where he didn't. You know, he was 165 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 2: made ava able to the media one day and then 166 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 2: the next day you didn't practice because of the hamstring. 167 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 2: So I hate to see it. At some point, at 168 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: some point the team just says, I'm sorry, we can't 169 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 2: trust you to stay healthy. They're not there with Juju 170 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 2: Brents at all, but he and Daniel Scott, Jelanie Woods 171 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 2: guys that have been hurt. You know, I think, boy, 172 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: these guys have got something, but they can't stay healthy. Uh. 173 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: But cornerback, I think Jaylen Jones is gonna miss some time. 174 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 2: That's Chap speak, not I can speak. Uh, just because 175 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 2: of what coach said. And again, uh Mooney Ward missed 176 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 2: practice one day or two days and apparently got tighteness 177 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 2: in the leg, which that I assume that's a hamstringer 178 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 2: or whatever. And I tell you these guys that are 179 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 2: that are vets that really anybody that has something, they 180 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: hold him out, whether it's the Forest Buckner one day 181 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 2: had a foot is shoes that held him out. Uh, 182 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 2: So they just they don't push it in training camp 183 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 2: in pre season, I think there's going to be a 184 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: handful of veterans not play much in preseason defense. I'm saying, 185 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 2: even though this is a new defense that needed to 186 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: play together, the wards and maybe cam buying them and 187 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 2: the force buck different credit a loud. I know what 188 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 2: the Forest buck can do. I know what Gerver Stewart 189 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 2: can do. They need some snaps just because you don't 190 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 2: want their first significant work to be in the in 191 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: the opener, but they will be limited. I think offensively 192 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 2: is a different matter entirely because of the quarterback. And 193 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 2: I heard you guys talking earlier about what they might do, 194 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 2: what they will do. But again, Kevin Boeller and I 195 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 2: talked about this, and I think that they need to 196 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 2: have a quarterback decided after two games and then really 197 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 2: peel back the starter and not play much in the 198 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 2: third game. And Kevin thinks they just need to play, 199 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: which and he's probably he's probably right. 200 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: Well, Jeb, you heard what I was saying in this. 201 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: I do think the starter is going to be Anthony 202 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 1: and I said when they signed him, I thought it 203 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: was gonna be Daniel Jones. I've I've flopped on that. 204 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: I will admit where I was wrong where I thought 205 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: that the yes, and I think it's going to be Richardson 206 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: and they're going to give him and and you know, 207 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: the sands are running through the hourglass here. But having 208 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: said that to me, the one thing that I think 209 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: they would tell you is that they realized they aired 210 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: and handing him the keys too early, and so the 211 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: final yeah, and so Therefore, I think they are going 212 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: to take the competition as late into the equation as 213 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: they can to continue to push him and make sure 214 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: that he does not And again, I want to be 215 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: very clear here, I'm not saying that Richardson is a 216 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: bad guy, that he has, you know, off field issues, 217 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. But in terms of his focus, 218 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: you want him to whatever they did to push him 219 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: so far has more off been shown that it is 220 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: working as opposed to not. And therefore you want to 221 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: continue pushing him that direction for as long as you 222 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: possibly can to keep him focused. Would you agree with that? 223 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 2: Boy? If I agree with that, then then then I'm 224 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 2: pointing out a rigison weakness and that he has to 225 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 2: be pushed to do his job. And that was the 226 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 2: problem the first two years is I guess in Layman's 227 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 2: term there was too much enabling going on. 228 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: Right, That's right, right? 229 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 2: Well, but god, you've got to be this is his 230 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 2: third year. You've got to be past that. You just 231 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 2: have to be that such a position coach is get 232 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 2: on him, and the courtate and get on him. But 233 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 2: my goodness, if they need to push him in the 234 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 2: third preseason game so that he doesn't have a lapse, 235 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: then you've got the wrong You've got the wrong guy. 236 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 2: You just do I think I think he needs to 237 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 2: start the opener because they have simply got to find 238 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 2: out what they have. Can he stay healthy? Can he 239 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 2: do the job better? I was looking here. I actually 240 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 2: did some homework before before the show today, and in 241 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 2: eleven on eleven passing in campus nine practices, I've got 242 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 2: Richardson at fifty eight percent and Jones at roughly sixty 243 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 2: seven sixty eight percent. I would take Richardson fifty eight 244 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 2: percent all day. 245 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: I would agree that's not a big enough separation for 246 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: Jones to win that job. 247 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: No, No, and Jones has been I think what we 248 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 2: thought decent arm strength, not great arm strength, more effective underneath. 249 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 2: He still holds the ball too long in my mind. 250 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 2: But Richardson just gives you the shock plays he does, 251 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 2: and he's been better on the underneath things. He's still gosh. 252 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: I think it was Saturday they played red zone in 253 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 2: like the first section the first session. He throws an 254 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 2: interception in the end zone from like the five yard 255 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 2: by whatever it was. You can't do that, you can't 256 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 2: of all the things you can't do as the quarterback ees, 257 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: central pick sixes. You can't. You can't throw an interception 258 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 2: around the goal line. You just can't. I saw to 259 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 2: Rick Venturia and he said, do you trust him? And 260 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 2: I said, yeah, no, I don't. Uh, just because of 261 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 2: the short sample size. 262 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 3: I've got to go on. 263 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 2: But my goodness, he's just his ceiling is so high. 264 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 2: But at some point again, he's got to do it. 265 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 2: He's got to stay on. He's got to stay on 266 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 2: the field. And so far, you know, knock on wood, 267 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 2: he's not missed time for anything, a sore shoulder and 268 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 2: all that. If I'm him and I've got a sore shoulder, 269 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 2: I keep it to myself. I realize if you're a pitcher, 270 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 2: maybe you can't do that. But uh, I think that 271 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 2: part of it is he's past that because they've thrown 272 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 2: quite a bit. But he's just he's just looked better 273 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: I think overall with what he brings. And if he's 274 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 2: fifty eight percent and he gives you the shot plays 275 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 2: and he gives you I don't know, sixty yards of 276 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 2: game rushing and he picks up third and seven with 277 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 2: his legs or whatever, now you got to cut down 278 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 2: on the whatever it was twelve interceptions or whatever it 279 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: was last year. You can't have that with only eight touchdowns. 280 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 2: But they can just do so much more with him, 281 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: and you need to find out he either stays healthy 282 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 2: or he doesn't. If he doesn't, you say, well, this 283 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: is who he is. You know, a guy that's missed 284 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 2: half of his games with injuries. And that's where you know, okay, 285 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: we can't rely, but you need to find out. You 286 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 2: don't find out by by starting the season with Jones, 287 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 2: who is going to give you a more of an 288 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 2: even you know, line on how he plays. But and 289 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 2: then what do you get with Richardson? You just don't know. 290 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 2: So to me, he's done nothing to lose the job. 291 00:15:58,160 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 2: I think he I thought I've always thought he had 292 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 2: the would have to really have an awful camp, just 293 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 2: an awful camp to not be the starter. 294 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: And listen, and baseball, a tie goes to the runner. 295 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: In football, a tie goes to the incumbent. 296 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 2: Right, Well, it's like you gotta knock out the champ. 297 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 2: And I think that sort of had to be what 298 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 2: what Jones? He either had to knock him out, which 299 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: he hasn't done, or Richardson had to play terrible, which 300 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 2: he hasn't done, which is encouraging. Had one bad day, 301 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 2: I think it was Saturday, was a bad day, a 302 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 2: not really good day in pads. So I think that's encouraging. Uh, 303 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 2: And how they're going to do it again? He stike 304 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 2: and told us that both guys were going to play 305 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 2: quite amount of a good amount in these first two games. 306 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 2: Howie does it will make a big deal whether it's 307 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 2: Jones and the opener in Baltimore and then the other 308 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 2: guy then Richardson in the second game, but they're both 309 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 2: going to play. And I think what's interesting is with 310 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 2: the quarterbacks playing as much as they're going to play, 311 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 2: maybe I don't know, three quarters, I don't know. Do 312 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 2: you play your starting offensive line that long? You know 313 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 2: it's because because then you're exposing your other quarterback to 314 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 2: playing with guys who have had an uneven training camp, 315 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 2: although they'll be going against the other team's backups at 316 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:21,479 Speaker 2: some point, So really interesting. Again, I would hope that 317 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 2: I would think that games, how they do in games 318 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 2: will have carry more weight than eleven on eleven and 319 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 2: seven on seven and how they go in meeting rooms, 320 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 2: and I understand all that goes together but how they 321 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 2: actually play on Thursday night or Saturday night against the Packers. 322 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 2: I just think that carries more weight and I'm curious. 323 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 2: I'm really curious how it goes. I've been encouraged by Richardson, 324 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 2: I really have been, but I just can't get those 325 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 2: first two years out of my head. I know, I 326 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 2: know that's my blind spot. 327 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a little PTSD the right of not 328 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: only from a consistency but from an availability standpoint. Mike Chappel, 329 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: our guest Chap I wanted to ask you this as well, 330 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of years ago, and I'm not 331 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: saying it was the right narrative. Maybe it was too 332 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: trendy a thing to say, but we got into this 333 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: and I'm not saying you, but when the league started 334 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: becoming really passer friendly, and they're throwing up Star Wars numbers, 335 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: and you know, Goff and Mahomes are having games where 336 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: it's going into the fifties, and people started saying, well, 337 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 1: the running backs become the fungible position. That's the position 338 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: that you can just kind of get a guy off 339 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: the street in week eight and it gives you a 340 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: good game. Whatever else. Maybe we started to see the 341 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: value at the running back position again in the National 342 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: Football League. But I'm curious of this if you agree 343 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: or disagree, or can expand on it. In today's NFL. 344 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: Defensively speaking, are we entering into an arena now where 345 00:18:55,040 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: defensive backfield is hyper important, pass rush is important, and 346 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: thus your linebacker corps is the one that can be 347 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: for you the most pedestrian. 348 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 2: Probably, although you need to have you know, you give 349 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 2: me a shackle letter, you know when in the second 350 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 2: and third year, even rookie, I'd take that on a heartbeat. 351 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 2: Middle linebacker tackles maybe maybe. Now if you're Zaire and 352 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 2: he you know, he had the second team off pro 353 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 2: less here were gonna get three and a half sacks 354 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 2: and eleven tackles for loss and a couple of interceptions, 355 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 2: that's different. Just don't give me tackles because those can 356 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 2: be you know, how many taxes were down the field. Whatever. 357 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 2: But yeah, you better have gosh, you better have four 358 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 2: corners that you trust. You better have three safeties that 359 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 2: you trust, because that's what teams are going to. Kennymore 360 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 2: Holy Smokes, his value as a nickel is off the charts. 361 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 2: They think this the justin Wally kid can can kind 362 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 2: of be that list that side. 363 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: Wally's been impressive though, and they made no bonds bones 364 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:00,360 Speaker 1: about the fact they' been impressed. 365 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 2: To them, right right, But but again, and then when 366 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 2: you have Mooney Ward, who can be that shutdown guy. 367 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 2: You know, think back to Vonte Davis, the late Vonte Davis. 368 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 2: He was pretty good, a couple of Pro Bowls, uh, 369 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 2: and the one year with Stefan Gilmour. They've not had 370 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 2: that guy often enough. And they again the injuries injuries 371 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 2: are a little bit of concerned because all of a sudden, 372 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 2: guys Sam Oomack, who's like your good fifth guy, as 373 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 2: that he's playing more. 374 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 4: Uh. 375 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 2: But again it's early preseason and except for the running 376 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 2: back yesterday in Jalen Jones, they've really avoided the major injuries. 377 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: Knock on wood, I. 378 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 2: Know, but so so Yeah, it's with the running backs. 379 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 2: I think I've always valued Jonathan Taylor. Now I I 380 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 2: don't know how long I would value him, you know, 381 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 2: five years, six years, because there there is an expiration. 382 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 2: They one running backs, although Derrick Henry would tell you 383 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 2: to go fly a kite because there hasn't been one 384 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 2: on him. He's an alien like Jerry Rice. But I 385 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 2: think the Colts have absolutely wasted two outstanding years by 386 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,479 Speaker 2: Jonathan Tavor. It still boggles my mind that he rushes 387 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 2: for eighteen hundred yards and you don't make the playoffs. 388 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 2: But they're gonna they're gonna maximize his talents and they should. 389 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 2: I may have mentioned to you I was shocked when 390 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 2: someone posted a note that he's average eighty nine yards 391 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 2: in his career. That's the highest active yards per game 392 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 2: in the NFL, higher than Derrick Henry. So it just 393 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 2: shows you. Yes, he dropped the freaking football at Denver, 394 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 2: which killed him, but he's a quality player and they're 395 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 2: gonna they're gonna lean on him a ton. I hope 396 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 2: he stays healthy enough. I like DJ Giddens, the rookie. 397 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 2: He's looked pretty good. So but yeah, you're right, it 398 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 2: sort of has swung. Uh, it's to where you're you're 399 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 2: valuing pass rush. You're always going to value that, and 400 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 2: they've had they had a really good pass rush the 401 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 2: last week or so. Now is that, you know, good 402 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 2: for them, or you know, offensive line pick up your game. 403 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 2: Lat has had a great camp, absolutely great camp, and 404 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 2: they need him to be the guy, not just a guy. 405 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 2: They need him to be kind of like the tip 406 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 2: of the spear. And then all of a sudden, you're 407 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 2: okay with Quitty Pei get you eight or nine sacks, 408 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 2: and Buckner give me his He'll he'll give you eight 409 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 2: sacks as long as he stays healthy, because that's that's 410 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 2: who he is. And get something from kom so it. 411 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 2: But but lots and he needs to be the guy, 412 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 2: and he's he's dominated training camp. He just has but 413 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 2: pass rush, cover quarterback and running back and then got 414 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 2: the receivers are just going off the charts as far 415 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 2: as pay so. But yeah, it has swung in a 416 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 2: little bit to where we're not seeing four hundred yard 417 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 2: passing games like we did back in the day. Has 418 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 2: swung a little bit to more of a can control 419 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 2: passing game. So you need to have corners. You need 420 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 2: to have to where you're gonna play maybe two linebackers 421 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 2: on an extra dB most of the time. 422 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: Mike Chapels CBS four wxin Fox fifty nine where you 423 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 1: see his coverage and of course Colt's getting set Thursday, 424 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: preseason game number one against the Baltimore Ravens, chap appreciated 425 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: as always, talked to you soon, all. 426 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 2: Right, talk cat you next week. You guys be well. 427 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Mike Chapel joining us, joining us now, 428 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: and I'm sure thrilled to be doing so, Eddie, I 429 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: believe you have the proper introduction for him, correct. 430 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 4: Speaking of lost and clueless. So we bring on Kyle 431 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 4: Nrip from the NSTR. 432 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, he joined us now in the guest line, Indianapolis 433 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: star Kyle Neddrip, of course, the high school writer for 434 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: football basketball primarily joining US now. And I want to 435 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: begin with that, Kyle. It is man, it happens earlier 436 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: and earlier, right, But basically high school football season is 437 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: upon us. 438 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, the officials Star practices today, which is sort of 439 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 4: a unofficial official I would say, anymore, because most teams 440 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 4: are practicing, you know. There all teams are able to 441 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 4: under the rules now able to practice and do things 442 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 4: throughout the spring and summer. So it's sort of more 443 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 4: of a symbolic start, I would say, But it is 444 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 4: the start, and you know, teams are you know, unable 445 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 4: to you know, you can't have ads on today tomorrow, 446 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 4: but then get after it on Wednesday and then we'll 447 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 4: be here basically next a week from Friday with the 448 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 4: scrimmages and then the following week with games. 449 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, it is. 450 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 4: It's definitely. Uh, it's here, and it's always fun because 451 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 4: you know, the start of school kind of you know, 452 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 4: coincides with football and kind of signifies the new year. 453 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 4: And I always look forward to that kind of restart, 454 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 4: you know, not only the football season, but you know, 455 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 4: the school year for all these kids going back to school. 456 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: Now, by the way, Kyle, before we get into that, 457 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: I'll let you enter the same arena that Mike Chappa 458 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: was just in because there's going to be all kinds 459 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: of speculation because Jim Mr say his home has a 460 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: pending sale, a cash sale at over asking price. Do 461 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: you want to wager on who it's going to be? 462 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 4: Oh? Boy, it's not Chap, is it. 463 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: That's right? He got out of the print side of things, 464 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: got into the TV money and now all of a sudden, 465 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: you know, let's go right. 466 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 4: The money rolls in rum gosh. I I I would, man, 467 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 4: I would venture somebody in the in the sports or maybe, 468 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 4: but but yeah, I don't even know. I don't even 469 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 4: know where to start. 470 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: I think clubhouse leader on this is outside market investor, 471 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: blind purchase investor. 472 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, that could be man that speaking of that, the 473 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 4: full court indoor basketball court was, Man, how how awesome 474 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 4: was that? It's like, man, they should they should actually 475 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 4: play high school games in there. 476 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: That's how about the hockey? 477 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 4: It's cool that place was Yeah exactly, I mean, man, 478 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 4: my goodness, what a what a what a life? You know, 479 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 4: that's that's super cool. Yeah, I don't even know, I 480 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 4: don't even know where to start. 481 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: But you know, Tyrese Haliburtons again, I'm going to best. 482 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to guess out of country investor. That is 483 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: strictly a guess and probably a dumb one, Kyle, when 484 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: it comes to and I know you have your article 485 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 1: up right now. You know eight things we're looking for 486 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: here in terms of high school football for the year. 487 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: And it is early, but practice getting underway today. From 488 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: an official standpoint, aside from the the obvious power hitters 489 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: that we talk about every year, is there a school 490 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: or a team that it looks like this year you 491 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: are intrigued by because they could make a real jump 492 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: that maybe in the normal season we don't talk a 493 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: lot about. 494 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you're probably talking more six s a 495 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 4: you know, as we get started here. But I would say, 496 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 4: you know, from a standpoint of a team that you 497 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 4: know has been a little bit off the radar but 498 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 4: has been building, I would say, and I'm not saying 499 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 4: they're state title contenders necessarily, but maybe could be. Is 500 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 4: probably Pike. You know, they're a team that has been 501 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 4: you know, on the rise here these last couple of 502 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 4: years under Mike Broward, who uh you know came from 503 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 4: Fort Wayne and and but it is really from here, 504 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 4: has a really unique backstory by the way, but he 505 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 4: you know, he's kind of got that program going in 506 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 4: the right direction. They were five and five last year 507 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 4: and and sort of a slow build from you know, 508 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 4: one win to I believe they had three the next 509 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 4: year and then five last year and have started to 510 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 4: you know, get some continuity. I saw them play Fishers 511 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 4: last year and beat them in a really good game 512 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 4: early in the year. But uh, you know, they still 513 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 4: have a I would say to be a state contender. 514 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 4: And six they just really tough. I'm not sure if 515 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 4: they're that uh you know, to that level just quite yet, 516 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 4: but but maybe getting there closer to that one team 517 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 4: that we do talk a lot about and they were 518 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 4: having the past. Who maybe fits this category is Carmel, 519 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 4: which h you know, they've kind of been a little 520 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 4: bit down these last couple of years. They were three 521 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 4: and seven last year, and and but have Kevin right 522 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 4: back as coach, and after a decade of sort of 523 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 4: being out of the state. 524 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 1: Or out at least out of the high school. 525 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 4: Football in the state, I really think he's going to 526 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 4: get that program going and he just doesn't lose, you know, 527 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 4: so you kind of assume they're going to be and 528 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 4: they do have a lot of talent, so you know, 529 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 4: I know, Carmel's not necessarily an upset pick by any means, 530 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 4: but but maybe considering the you know that they have 531 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 4: only had three wins, you know, last year, and then 532 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 4: we're five and five the year before that, there there 533 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 4: may be someone who fits that you know distinction a 534 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 4: little bit. But I think they're going to be. We'll 535 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 4: find out early in the season because they play Fishers 536 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 4: in Westfield right off the bat, so you know, we'll 537 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 4: kind of see where they're at. But I would say 538 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 4: they might fit that, you know, kind of that sleeper 539 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 4: as much as you can put Carmel as a sleeper 540 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 4: in any sport, but they might fit that category. 541 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: Right now, Kyle, when you look at your time in 542 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: covering high school sports in Indiana, this is season number 543 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: what for you? 544 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 4: It's eighteen? 545 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: Okay. I was going to say, yes, seventeen. Yeah, so 546 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: eighteen right, so in the time that you've done it. 547 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: And this is kind of a maybe this isn't getting 548 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: into the weeds question, but I am curious. The rules 549 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: of enrollment in Indiana high schools are different than they 550 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: were traditionally thirty years ago of you know, you live 551 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: in this area or this township, you go to this school, 552 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: or you go to a private school kind of end 553 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: of story. Now, with the ability to go to you know, 554 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: with all of the charters, or the ability to you know, 555 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: with select school, to go to a different township than 556 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: where you live, et cetera, has it made consistency of 557 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: high school athletics harder to predict in the And I 558 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: know that they have transfer rules with the ISSA, and 559 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: the ISSA does the best they can to try to 560 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: preserve all of that, But just how big a variable 561 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: or challenge has that been versus say, fifteen years ago. 562 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, and especially now you know with the you know, 563 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 4: the change that was made with the first time transfer rule, 564 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 4: you know, and well that will have to play itself 565 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 4: out and you know, we don't have any data on 566 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 4: that just yet, you know, but you know, some schools 567 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 4: are and I think more and more schools now definitely 568 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 4: are you know, open enrollment. Some schools even now though, 569 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 4: are still you know, they don't take kids from out 570 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 4: of the out of the district, you know, so I 571 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 4: think that will you know, more and more and more 572 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 4: schools are are are the other way now where they 573 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 4: do take and now that you can go out of district, 574 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 4: it's it's I think advisable that you probably should, you know, 575 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 4: allow kids to come in if you have room for them, obviously. 576 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, I think there's just it's a 577 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 4: little bit more and it's always in this area, to 578 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 4: be honest. It's it's always been a little bit more 579 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 4: fluid as far as kids moving around and going, whether 580 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 4: they're actually physically moving or you know, switching schools. It's 581 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 4: always been, I think in Central Indiana and Indianapolis especially 582 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 4: a little bit more of a transient situation, you know, 583 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 4: And I think it's maybe become a little bit more 584 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 4: all over this day now. Uh, but it's you know, 585 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 4: I think there are kids definitely who you know, are 586 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 4: in a situation, especially now where you can transfer, get 587 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 4: a first time transfer. You know, you're you're going to 588 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 4: see more of that where hey, I may not be 589 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 4: playing at this school, I'm going to go uh over 590 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 4: here and where I can play. And that may be 591 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 4: more of the transfers that you see rather than the 592 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 4: rather than the huge names, uh, you know, the kids 593 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 4: who are big names transferring and maybe more of that 594 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 4: uh in the future, you know, based on this rule. 595 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 4: What this rule is, I don't know. You know, I 596 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 4: still think in football, though, it's it's so hard to 597 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 4: you know, like what Pike is doing or other schools 598 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 4: have done with with you know, trying to get your 599 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 4: your program on the map. It's just it's just really 600 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 4: hard when you're battling those year in and year at 601 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 4: powerhouses that are always good because football is a numbers 602 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 4: game obviously, and you know, kids want to go to 603 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 4: those schools or be involved in those schools that that 604 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 4: have had the history and have the tradition, and you know, 605 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 4: you're kind of fighting an uphill battle and football a 606 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 4: lot of times because it is such a such a 607 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 4: numbers game and and that sort of thing. But so 608 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 4: it's a little bit easier I think at football maybe 609 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 4: than other sports to predict, you know, who will be good. 610 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 4: That said, though, six A is always hard because it's 611 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 4: like it kind of changes hands all the time. It's 612 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 4: it's really hard to win back to back championships, and 613 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 4: you know, there's just so much quality in six A round, 614 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 4: especially around here. It just kind of it's not a 615 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 4: big group of schools that it changes hands from, but 616 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 4: it's they definitely battle each other for that top spot. 617 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 4: And that's what makes it so fun and so good 618 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 4: is just the competition at the top of that class. 619 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 4: And I think we'll see that again this year. It's 620 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 4: just not a lot that separates that that top team 621 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 4: from the rest. 622 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: Kyle when you look Kyle Needrip is our guest from 623 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Star. You know, part of your I'm going 624 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: to say offseason in air quotes, but between you know, 625 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: the basketball and football seasons that are your primary beat. 626 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: You did a really interesting series here lost Indiana and 627 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: going around and seeing just some of the old historic gems. 628 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: Which one is the one that most awed you when 629 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: you walked in. 630 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 4: I really like most of these, I've been to probably 631 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 4: all of them. We did ten of them, so we're 632 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 4: at number eight right now, so we have two more 633 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 4: to go. You know, I tried to pick out I 634 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 4: did a book many years ago on that included a 635 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 4: lot of these gym. I think probably all of them 636 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 4: but one were in the book originally. So most of these 637 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 4: I've been in before. But I would say, you know, 638 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 4: the Jasper, the caveo'nil gym, just because they've done so 639 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 4: much work to it, the volunteer work, and you know, 640 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 4: they that gym was sort of on its last legs 641 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 4: it appeared, and then it was actually needed once they 642 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 4: had some a storm that basically you know, they couldn't 643 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 4: use the Jasper gym that they'd built, so they moved 644 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 4: the games back there. This has been about ten or 645 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 4: twelve years ago, and actually used it, you know, for 646 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 4: a full season as their home gym again. And now 647 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 4: it's part of their you know community again. It's it's 648 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 4: used by different teams, so that one's really cool, and 649 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 4: it sort of incorporates, you know, some of the old 650 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 4: you know, they have the old green bleachers about a 651 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 4: row of them anyway, that are still in there that 652 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 4: you can you can see they have a lot of 653 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 4: the newspaper articles framed up on the walls, you know, 654 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 4: so they've done a good job of sort of incorporating 655 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 4: the old with the new in that one as much 656 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 4: as you can with an old gym. But probably my 657 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 4: favorite Economy, which is in Wayne County, and it's it's 658 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 4: a little town that's barely a dot on the map, 659 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 4: but they have a wood frame white it looks like 660 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 4: a barn, you know, if you're driving on the highway 661 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 4: there and happened to drive by it. But it is 662 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 4: so small, basically, you know. And the cool thing about 663 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,280 Speaker 4: what we're able to do is is coordinate to interview 664 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 4: people in the gym as they're sitting there on the court. 665 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 4: And you know, there was probably four or five people 666 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 4: who you know, were crying when we talked to them 667 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 4: about these places, and it was and that was you know, 668 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 4: just really neat to kind of invoke that emotion of 669 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 4: being back in those places. And that happened at Economy 670 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 4: with a couple of people we talked to. But you know, 671 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 4: that's just you walk in there and it's and I 672 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 4: walked in there probably almost twenty years ago, now for 673 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 4: the first time, and there was a pickup game going 674 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,240 Speaker 4: on when I went in there, and I couldn't believe 675 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 4: it that they played high school basketball there. It was 676 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 4: just so so small. The out of bounds lines are 677 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 4: the are the walls at the end, one wall at 678 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 4: the end of the court. It's just so tiny. So 679 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 4: you know, so that one's really special to me, unique 680 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 4: to me, and you know, I really enjoy that one. 681 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 4: But you know, it's it's it's really all of them. 682 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 4: The ver Sales Gym, the Tyson Auditorium that was in 683 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 4: today's was today's edition. You know, that one's got a 684 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 4: lot of history from the Island team playing there in 685 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 4: their home games in fifty three fifty four because their 686 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 4: own gym was too small, So that one's really neat 687 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 4: as well. So I would I would, you know, one 688 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 4: of those Versailles Economy Jasper. Those were all really really 689 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 4: fun ones to go to. But they're all special, they're 690 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 4: all you know, I've enjoyed just hearing the memories of 691 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 4: all of the people we've talked to and just get 692 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 4: getting in those places again. Was just a lot of fun. 693 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 1: Economy, just to the northeast of Hagerstown, and just kind 694 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: of northwest of Richmond, Indiana is where that small town is. Kyle, 695 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: appreciate it as always look forward to talking to you 696 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: over the course of the season, all right. And by 697 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,439 Speaker 1: the way, if it makes you feel any better, three 698 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 1: fifths of the people that I interview also end up crying. 699 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: So I mean that's you know what I mean, that's 700 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: we got that in common exactly. Well. 701 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 4: I appreciate Jake anytime. Appreciate you having me on. 702 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,359 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Kyle Needrip joining us from the Indianapolis Star. 703 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 5: Alia practices her forum A bounce, the free throw too 704 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 5: strong rebound. Seattle just don't foul, they don't. 705 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 1: Get a shot off. 706 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 6: Man. 707 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: That does it. 708 00:36:56,200 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 5: Final score Fever seventy eight Storm, and now you know 709 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,879 Speaker 5: the Fever have won five in a row, extending their 710 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 5: longest winning streak of this season, and Indiana moves past 711 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 5: Seattle in the standings. 712 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: John Nolan on the call last night, technically yesterday late afternoon, 713 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,760 Speaker 1: Fever winning in Seattle over the Storm. And each time 714 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: that Seattle, in fact, did try to call it a comeback, 715 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,919 Speaker 1: the Fever would weather the storm. See what I did there, 716 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 1: But it was solid and I thought in listening to 717 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,359 Speaker 1: the game, Thank you Eddie and listening to the game. 718 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,919 Speaker 1: The one thing that you and I listened to John 719 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 1: for the better part of the second half as I 720 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 1: was out running Erond's yesterday and John, one of the 721 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 1: things that really jumped out at me, And this is 722 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 1: what I really like about this team is the fact 723 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: that they are now getting it from multiple areas, and 724 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: by that I mean different players on different nights. I 725 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 1: thought last night on Natasha Howard was fantastic, and each 726 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: time they needed a basket, seemingly she is the one 727 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,839 Speaker 1: that they went to, and that balance is making them 728 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: very dangerous. You agree with that statement, and thanks for 729 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 1: joining us. 730 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 6: Hey, Jake, thanks for having me on, Thanks for listening yesterday. 731 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 6: One hundred percent agree. And I know you had Tat 732 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 6: Boyle and TV Voice of the Fever on last week, 733 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 6: and you know, he made a comment bringing up, you know, 734 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 6: sort of parallel to what we saw from the great 735 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 6: Pacers run this past season, and he was talking a 736 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 6: bit about how the placer said whether the injuries in 737 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 6: the first half of the season and then got it going. 738 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 6: And you know, another thing that really does give you 739 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 6: those Pacers vibes here is what the Fever are doing 740 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 6: right now is that you don't really know who it 741 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 6: is it's going to step up and have the big game. 742 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 6: So how about this last Sunday at Chicago, part of 743 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 6: this five game winning streak for the Fever. Unbelievably, Tosh 744 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 6: Howers didn't score, didn't even have a rebound. He wound 745 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:52,839 Speaker 6: up not playing too much. That was a game when 746 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 6: the rookie kk Timpson came off the bench and had 747 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:57,800 Speaker 6: the best game so far of her career. 748 00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,280 Speaker 3: So Tosh great teammate. 749 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,280 Speaker 6: I think she had to play on social media afterwards 750 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 6: about how, hey, this is the safe a team where 751 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,359 Speaker 6: you know, we're happy for each other. So one night 752 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 6: it's going to be somebody's you know, time to step up. 753 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,359 Speaker 6: Another time it's going to be somebody else's. So yes 754 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:15,479 Speaker 6: yesterday Tash at Seattle twenty one point five five assists too, 755 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 6: And as we talk about how it's truly a team 756 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,720 Speaker 6: right now, especially with we went out of the lineup, 757 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,840 Speaker 6: being how you don't know who really is going to 758 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 6: have a great game, because yesterday was an offshooting performance 759 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 6: for Kelsey Mitchell. But you know, one thing that really 760 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 6: just epitomizes that team effort. Here is the assist rate. 761 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,800 Speaker 6: They assisted on twenty seven of their thirty two made shots. 762 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 6: That's more than eighty percent of their baskets. That is 763 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:42,280 Speaker 6: a pretty insane assist percentage to have, and it really 764 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 6: just epitomizes what they're doing here. 765 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: Do you look, John, if you look at the way 766 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: things have come together for them, are they schematically doing 767 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 1: anything differently in terms of and I know you have 768 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 1: to adjust when you have somebody that is as important 769 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,280 Speaker 1: as Caitlin Clark not on the floor, but in terms 770 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: of their ball distribution or getting the ball to operating areas, 771 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,320 Speaker 1: are they are they schematically doing things differently? 772 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,839 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a good question, and so they certainly here 773 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 6: after their best of late Steph White puts it, as 774 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 6: you know, making the ball pop and the ball movement 775 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 6: die to side, and there are some possessions where it's 776 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 6: like no one even dribbles. I think schematically though, One 777 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,840 Speaker 6: thing that from the first go around, when Caitlyn was 778 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 6: out and without Caitlin, all of a sudden, the pace 779 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 6: took a pretty dramatic dip. It was like a split 780 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 6: of when Caitlyn was playing, they had the fastest pace 781 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 6: in the league, and then when Caitlyn wasn't playing, they 782 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 6: were sorting the bottom of the league. 783 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 3: In case now you really do have to. 784 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 6: Give a lot of flowers to Airy McDonald's, who is 785 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 6: as quick as anyone up there with Kelsey and Caitlin 786 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 6: and so gematically they haven't slowed down their pace since 787 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 6: they now have gotten Airy fluid here and you know, 788 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 6: on this rest of the season contract. So schematically it's 789 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 6: not night and day different. You know, they're able to 790 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 6: have Aleiah Boston now as a big facilitator. I mean 791 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 6: when you look at the individual assists yesterday, McDonald had nine, 792 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 6: mentioned Howard had five, Mitchell had five, you know, Leah 793 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 6: multiple assists to so stematically, it hasn't had to be 794 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 6: a great change now if they've had Aery McDonald's holding 795 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:18,959 Speaker 6: the tide at point guard. 796 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,839 Speaker 1: You know, I typically John, and I'm curious if you've 797 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 1: ever realized that you're in this fraternity. I don't typically 798 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 1: trust people with two first names. You're a guy with 799 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: two first names. Do you think of that as Nolan 800 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: not a common enough first name? 801 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, obviously here as we talk on sports radio, Nolan Ryan, 802 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,839 Speaker 6: you know, one of the most iconic fatuers of all time. 803 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 3: But I don't feel like I run into a lot 804 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 3: and Nolan. 805 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: I trust Nolan Ryan. And that's a guy with two 806 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 1: first names. Interestingly enough, But so. 807 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 3: My basketball is like forty five miles an hour. 808 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 1: Here's I'm coming up with a new rule on this, Okay. 809 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 1: In order to be somebody that is categorized as a 810 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 1: guy with two first names, the last name has to 811 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 1: be the more common first name of the two. So 812 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 1: Nolan Ryan accounts because Ryan is more common than Nolan. Right, yes, 813 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,839 Speaker 1: but Nolan's not more common than John. So I think 814 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:12,319 Speaker 1: you're safe. 815 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 3: I am safe or not? 816 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:16,360 Speaker 1: No, I think you're safe. 817 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,879 Speaker 6: Okay, Yes, still morning hours out on the West coast. 818 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 6: Brand's not fully firing here yet all or maybe you 819 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 6: can debate ever, but yeah, I'll take word. 820 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,799 Speaker 1: For it here technically speaking, Eddie Garrison, guy with two 821 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 1: first names, don't trust him at all? Right, isn't that right, 822 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:34,840 Speaker 1: my Garrison? 823 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 5: Car? 824 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 1: You know, I'm just saying for what it's worth. John, 825 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,879 Speaker 1: what does happen when when Caitlin Clark comes back. Look, 826 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 1: she's a great player, I get it. I mean there 827 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 1: is not a world out there where you would not 828 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: want her on the floor. But at the same time, 829 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 1: they are playing so well right now, and how much 830 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 1: of that is out of necessity of having to distribute, 831 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: having to balance without her out there, And how intriguing 832 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 1: is it going to be when you have to not 833 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 1: have to but when you then bring her and acclimate 834 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:06,840 Speaker 1: her back in. 835 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the perspective to probably have right now 836 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 6: is that it's awesome to see what the team has 837 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,879 Speaker 6: been able to accomplish here without Caitlin, a five game 838 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,879 Speaker 6: winning streak for the first time in a decade, and so. 839 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 3: They're showing that clearly here. 840 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 6: Even unfortunately without Caitlin, they're a playoff team and for 841 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,840 Speaker 6: that matter, rising up in the standings, currently in fifth 842 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,800 Speaker 6: and only a half game out of fourth, and shoot 843 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 6: just two games out of the two seeds as it 844 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 6: currently stands in the WNBA. But I think the perspective 845 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,720 Speaker 6: to have is that with Caitlin coming back, figure scrossed. 846 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,239 Speaker 6: I mean, it seems like she's on track to you 847 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 6: later this month, you know, all of a sudden, now 848 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,799 Speaker 6: the team would have the ceiling of perhaps being a 849 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 6: title contender to get Minnesota links. Right now, they're on 850 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:52,800 Speaker 6: another level from everyone else. 851 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 3: In the league. 852 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:54,880 Speaker 6: Even though the Fever did beat them and the Commissioner's 853 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 6: Cup Championship game without Caitlin. But I think the perspective 854 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:00,799 Speaker 6: is that now with Caitlyn's back to if she's gonna 855 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 6: have less pressure on her, you. 856 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 3: Know, over the course of. 857 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 6: Her career, whether it was at Iowa or last year 858 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 6: as a rookie, and she's kind of felt probably like 859 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 6: she needs to do more than typical. Right now, I 860 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 6: think you know, she's able to witness, you know, the 861 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 6: strength of everybody else and you know, perhaps can be 862 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 6: even more of a facilitator than she already was. I mean, 863 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 6: she was already sex in the league and assists per game, 864 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 6: but you know, recognizing that she's not going to really 865 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 6: need to be forcing things. 866 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 1: John Nolan is our guest radio play by play voice 867 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 1: of the Indiana Fever Fever winning last night in Seattle, Eddie, 868 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:37,360 Speaker 1: what tide did that game end? Oh? For five? I 869 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 1: keep saying last night. I mean it was technically late afternoon, 870 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 1: right afternoon game. John. It was loud in that joint 871 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 1: man like Seattle, And I know that Seattle has been, 872 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 1: you know, a really good location for the w but 873 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,359 Speaker 1: you mentioned that the I think you said that the 874 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 1: upper levels were only sixty percent full, but even still 875 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 1: at one point, I mean it got raucous in that 876 00:44:58,680 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 1: place in the late third. 877 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 6: Yeah, it really was a tremendous environment. And while it 878 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 6: wasn't a sellout, they still did have over sixteen thousand fans. 879 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,879 Speaker 6: And credit to the fans in Seattle, where they're tied 880 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 6: for having one of the most titles in WNBI history, 881 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,760 Speaker 6: So they've got a rich tradition, they have their own fans, 882 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 6: and of course it's been fun most road games this 883 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 6: year for the Fever. We joke about how it feels 884 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 6: like a home game, and while there were lots of fans, 885 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 6: they're wearing Fever retire. Yesterday, I mean I think it 886 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 6: was a pro Seattle crab. You could you could hear that, right, Yeah, 887 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 6: I mean that also makes yesterday's victory for the Fever 888 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 6: even more impressive because Seattle made some runs in the 889 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,759 Speaker 6: second half and you know, got within a point there 890 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 6: down the stretch, had chances to tie in the game, 891 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 6: and well, as. 892 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:47,880 Speaker 3: You put it, the Fever weather that's the worm Listen. 893 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 1: I was pretty proud of that. When I came up 894 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 1: with that, that was off top of my tad too, John, 895 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? 896 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,840 Speaker 6: Like Heay, all right, Jake, we're friends. Now about how 897 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 6: about a text here when you get that one, you know, 898 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 6: during the game yesterday, so I could drop that in. 899 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 1: Listen, hardly original, I realize, right, I mean, I will 900 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 1: admit that. By the way, aside from obviously within your 901 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 1: responsibilities WNBA wise, how many times have you previously been 902 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,320 Speaker 1: to or been able to experience Seattle. 903 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd never been to Seattle until the two trips 904 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 6: here for the Fever this season and now coming to 905 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 6: you from LA, where I'm also visiting for the first time. 906 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,240 Speaker 1: Really, never been to La before. 907 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:28,400 Speaker 3: Never been to La. 908 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,919 Speaker 6: I've been to California, San Francisco, San Diego, San Jose, 909 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 6: but first time here. 910 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to ask you John, before we get 911 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:36,840 Speaker 1: back to the Fever. I'm going to ask you a 912 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,319 Speaker 1: Jake query La question, and I want you to answer 913 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 1: it with all honesty. Okay, oh boy, Okay, after going 914 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 1: and seeing Oasis in Manchester and like still reliving it 915 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 1: because they were two just unbelievable shows and they are 916 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 1: going to be playing in early September at the Rose Bowl. Okay, 917 00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 1: So because of just the you know the beauty of 918 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 1: past Dina, the Rose bulletself iconic venue. I just decided, 919 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:05,439 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna do it, So I bought 920 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 1: a ticket by myself. Okay, Shannon didn't want to go, 921 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 1: So I bought a ticket by myself to go by 922 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 1: myself to fly to LA buy my solo one ticket 923 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,719 Speaker 1: to go to the show. And when I get out 924 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,720 Speaker 1: there on Saturday morning, I'm going to fulfill my quest 925 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 1: of going and finding the spawn Ranch where the Manson 926 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 1: family lived in the old western movie ranch set where 927 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 1: they all lived during the the Manson Murders, where the 928 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 1: family was living before they went to Barker Ranch. And 929 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 1: then I might try to find Barker Ranch as well. 930 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,279 Speaker 1: Which of those two aspects, me going solo or me 931 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,760 Speaker 1: seeking out spawning Barker Ranch is more bizarre? 932 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,719 Speaker 3: Well, okay, yeah, you took me on a ride here. 933 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,360 Speaker 3: I was thinking, like, wow, this is so beautiful. 934 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 6: You're gonna be able to experience oasis. 935 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, picturesque steady now is that? 936 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,560 Speaker 6: And I've got your nightmares and the Manson family rolling 937 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 6: through my head. So I think it's really cool, even 938 00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 6: if it's a solo trip. I think you right, those 939 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,640 Speaker 6: are eight it's a concert, especially from Ryford, or really 940 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,839 Speaker 6: such a I don't know, for lack of a better word, 941 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 6: magical kind of experience. Even though you're there by yourself, 942 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,400 Speaker 6: you're going to be with so many people who are 943 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 6: just like a good piece of humanity that's not really 944 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:12,920 Speaker 6: there by yourself. 945 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 1: I probably should not tell any of them that previously 946 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 1: in the day I went and found the Spawn and. 947 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,880 Speaker 6: Barbara say that would probably be the only situation that 948 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,320 Speaker 6: arises where you could be isolated out of people. 949 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:25,919 Speaker 1: Are Are you an Oasis fan? 950 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 6: I can't claim to be a huge Oasis fan, maybe 951 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,480 Speaker 6: a little bit like Steph White in your conversation with 952 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,239 Speaker 6: her a week or two ago, where I have an appreciation, 953 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,759 Speaker 6: but I do have to like your like yourself. I 954 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 6: have some other friends who are huge fans, friendly with 955 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:41,479 Speaker 6: a guy. 956 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,800 Speaker 3: Who's actually a sports talk radio host as well, who. 957 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 6: Similarly went over there to uh across the Pond to 958 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 6: see a show, and I thought he had a great 959 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:50,799 Speaker 6: recap of it and thought it was like a life 960 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:55,840 Speaker 6: changing experience faith and just like restoring faith in humanity. 961 00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:57,240 Speaker 3: The play by play. 962 00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 6: Guy for the Baltimore Orioles on TV, Kevin brand. I 963 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 6: think his bio here on Twitter and that he is 964 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,239 Speaker 6: the world's biggest Oasis fan. He's a friend of mine, 965 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,000 Speaker 6: So I, yes, you know, I've got some time here 966 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 6: on these road trips. 967 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,040 Speaker 3: I got to start. I gotta look in this more Oasis. 968 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,720 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I'll send you a playlist. They're fabulous, 969 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:18,440 Speaker 1: They're absolutely fabulous. What do we guestimate is the return 970 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,439 Speaker 1: date for Caitlin Clark? And I want to be clear, 971 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 1: John Nolan, the radio play by play voice, I'm not 972 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,680 Speaker 1: putting you in the position here of speaking for the franchise. 973 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,360 Speaker 1: This is strictly prognostication. But when you look at the schedule, 974 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,400 Speaker 1: Eddie and I have touched in the fact that you know, 975 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,400 Speaker 1: she's like, look, we've got to get her acclimated to 976 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:38,720 Speaker 1: practices before we then go in the game situation. Based 977 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,480 Speaker 1: on that, it would seem to me like the seventeenth, 978 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,920 Speaker 1: when they have five days to prepare, would be a 979 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 1: kind of a nice soft landing spot. But is that 980 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:48,719 Speaker 1: stretching it too far? 981 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 3: Right? 982 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,040 Speaker 6: So, actually, I think they have a game on the 983 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,359 Speaker 6: seventeenth on the road, and then there's the five days 984 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:55,400 Speaker 6: off of the twenty second. 985 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,360 Speaker 1: Okay, So the twenty second winks. 986 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, So yeah, think what you're saying there is 987 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,760 Speaker 6: a logical I think there's been some reporting like yesterday 988 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,279 Speaker 6: in Seattle, Caitlin had an individual workout since there wasn't 989 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 6: a team practice before that afternoon game. So I think, 990 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,560 Speaker 6: you know, that sort of seems to be a stepping stone. 991 00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:14,160 Speaker 3: So like the. 992 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,239 Speaker 6: Individual workouts and then trying to be reintegrated into the 993 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,279 Speaker 6: team workouts, you know, as long as she's feeling well. 994 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,719 Speaker 3: So I think you're I here. 995 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,320 Speaker 6: I am with you on on the logic and reason. 996 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,719 Speaker 6: And I guess one other factor to consider now though, 997 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,360 Speaker 6: is like they definitely don't need a rusher, right, I 998 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:31,160 Speaker 6: mean the team here. 999 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:31,920 Speaker 3: Is one five in a row. 1000 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:35,800 Speaker 1: If that plays into it, right. 1001 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,600 Speaker 6: Right, I think they already were at a position where 1002 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 6: you know, they got to have the long term vision 1003 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,279 Speaker 6: and you know, not rush at all regardless, but it 1004 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 6: certainly helps, right Uh. Now you don't have to have 1005 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:51,319 Speaker 6: any kind of you know, outside influence of feeling. You're like, 1006 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,160 Speaker 6: let's say, all of a sudden, this was going south 1007 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:54,799 Speaker 6: the other way and now you're fighting just to make 1008 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,480 Speaker 6: the playoffs. Yeah, it's going to be kind of human 1009 00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 6: nature for everyone to maybe uh feel some pressure, but 1010 00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,560 Speaker 6: as stands now, that would not. 1011 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:02,040 Speaker 3: Be the case. 1012 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,800 Speaker 1: You know, their continued streak here with Aliah Boston of 1013 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,239 Speaker 1: double doubles. I think she had sixteen to twelve last night. 1014 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,680 Speaker 1: She has been a model of consistency for the fever, 1015 00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:16,560 Speaker 1: John Nolan. Are they prioritizing feeding Aliah Boston or is 1016 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:21,800 Speaker 1: Aliah Boston getting her points and scheming within the offense 1017 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,960 Speaker 1: almost as a byproduct of other stuff going on around her? 1018 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,320 Speaker 3: Right? Yeah, I think you hit on it there. 1019 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,560 Speaker 6: They certainly there. They're not forcing the ball to anyone, 1020 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 6: and a game the game, you're going to see different, 1021 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 6: you know, just to th off the personnel that the 1022 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:39,880 Speaker 6: other team had. I think you were talking about this 1023 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 6: with Steph recently, right, how Like the WNBA has evolved, 1024 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 6: and so game the game you're you're looking at unique 1025 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,960 Speaker 6: matchups and unique styles, and so I think this team 1026 00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 6: just done a good job shown that they can adapt. 1027 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,799 Speaker 6: I mean, yesterday was a grinded out game in the seventies. 1028 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:56,760 Speaker 6: Going back one of their wins here in this streak 1029 00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 6: last week at home against Phoenix, one of the highest 1030 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,920 Speaker 6: scoring the franchise history. Both teams, uh clips thing one 1031 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,920 Speaker 6: hundred points, So you know, I think they're able to uh, 1032 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:08,920 Speaker 6: you know that one where they probably would have liked 1033 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,319 Speaker 6: to have played better defense there. They don't necessarily want 1034 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,360 Speaker 6: to be giving up one hundred plots, but you know, 1035 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 6: showing that they can adapt. And you have a player 1036 00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,800 Speaker 6: like a Leah who even over the course of a game, 1037 00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,040 Speaker 6: in that one against Phoenix, she was held in check 1038 00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:26,280 Speaker 6: for a few quarters and then boom erupted in the fourth. So, uh, 1039 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 6: they're gonna just relax. Of a better description, maybe you're 1040 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,440 Speaker 6: just like go with the flow with whoever's you know, 1041 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:35,399 Speaker 6: whoever's night or whoever's quarter, even based off what they're 1042 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,560 Speaker 6: what they're seeing from the defense they're taking advantage of. 1043 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,759 Speaker 1: And you you've burned the midnight oil tonight Fever and 1044 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,640 Speaker 1: La ten o'clock tip, right, that's tomorrow night. Is it 1045 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,640 Speaker 1: tomorrow night? Tomorrow night? So you burn them tomorrow night. 1046 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,480 Speaker 1: I will be in then on Thursday night as well, 1047 00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,479 Speaker 1: when they're in Phoenix at ten o'clock. So it's West 1048 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,960 Speaker 1: Coast games man. I love that. I love the West 1049 00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,600 Speaker 1: Coast games. Again, Fever and Action at LA Tomorrow night. 1050 00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 1: That is a ten o'clock tip locally. Eddie will have 1051 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,759 Speaker 1: the pre postgame. John will be on the radio call 1052 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,520 Speaker 1: for it. When you look at it, John, as we 1053 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,160 Speaker 1: kind of head down towards the final stretch of the 1054 00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 1: season here, and I know, record wise, I mean you 1055 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:15,480 Speaker 1: talk about Minnesota, for example, who would you say, in 1056 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 1: terms of the style of play or the personnel of play, 1057 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:23,480 Speaker 1: is the one that most gives Indiana fits despite what 1058 00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:24,760 Speaker 1: the records may indicate. 1059 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:31,399 Speaker 3: It's a good question. I would say potentially. 1060 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,560 Speaker 6: New York when they're healthy, and currently Brianna Stewart is 1061 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,799 Speaker 6: out for them right now. But New York is it 1062 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,640 Speaker 6: looks like the biggest juggernaut in the league, like they 1063 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:42,839 Speaker 6: probably I would say have the highest ceiling, even higher 1064 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,600 Speaker 6: than Minnesota, despite the fact that Minnesota is in first, 1065 00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,960 Speaker 6: because New York just can be overwhelming. Especially they just 1066 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,719 Speaker 6: got Emma Misiman, who is a former Finals MVP and 1067 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,880 Speaker 6: All Star who had been out of the WNBA playing 1068 00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:58,839 Speaker 6: over in Europe the last couple of years. She just 1069 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,600 Speaker 6: made her Liberty debut yesterday, and that's adding more size 1070 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,640 Speaker 6: to them, because I would say they're at least earlier 1071 00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,439 Speaker 6: in the season, there were some situations or if teams 1072 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,640 Speaker 6: were playing two posts at the same time. And the thirdly, 1073 00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,440 Speaker 6: team Atlanta is the one that comes to mind here 1074 00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:16,239 Speaker 6: because they got Britney Grinder and Bree Jones. We had 1075 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 6: multiple players there at six' five and. Taller The fever 1076 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:23,319 Speaker 6: don't necessarily have that kind of. Size but then Yet 1077 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,080 Speaker 6: New york And atlanta for that, matter they have some 1078 00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,400 Speaker 6: some stop shooting guards as, Well Lake Sabrina yonescu in 1079 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,200 Speaker 6: the case Of New, york And Alicia gray For. Atlantis 1080 00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,040 Speaker 6: so you, know there's a reason that those are some 1081 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:35,480 Speaker 6: of the winning teams in the. 1082 00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:39,120 Speaker 1: League fever again in action tomorrow, night taking ON. La 1083 00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,680 Speaker 1: John nolan is the radio play by play. Voice all, Right, 1084 00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:45,400 Speaker 1: john you're going to have presumably the afternoon free here IN. 1085 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,480 Speaker 1: LA i want to know What John nolan does in 1086 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,120 Speaker 1: a free afternoon IN, la especially if you've never been 1087 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:51,000 Speaker 1: TO la. Before. 1088 00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,240 Speaker 6: Yep so in the afternoon here there's the team ass, 1089 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,680 Speaker 6: practice so are optional shooting at least to checking that 1090 00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,319 Speaker 6: out more so in the, Evening i'm looking to get 1091 00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,840 Speaker 6: over To Dodger stadium AND i got to THE T 1092 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,279 Speaker 6: Mobile park to catch part of A mariners game a 1093 00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,279 Speaker 6: couple of days ago and went to a minor league 1094 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:13,400 Speaker 6: baseball game In. Texas SO i am Just i'm just 1095 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,680 Speaker 6: being a baseball fan sick of here on this, trip 1096 00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,640 Speaker 6: going to try to get to a game In phoenix as. 1097 00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,200 Speaker 1: Well here's my tip for. You if you go To Dodger. 1098 00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:26,920 Speaker 1: Stadium you, ready, yes it is a stadium where the 1099 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,080 Speaker 1: views are so great that it doesn't really. MATTER i, 1100 00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:30,919 Speaker 1: mean tickets are going to be expensive no matter where 1101 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,880 Speaker 1: you get, them but you absolutely need to do this 1102 00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,400 Speaker 1: when you were In Dodger. Stadium it's a tip for 1103 00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,640 Speaker 1: anybody that goes to a game At Dodger. Stadium take 1104 00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:44,479 Speaker 1: the escalators or actually the escalators to the very top. 1105 00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,360 Speaker 1: LEVEL i can't remember if it's escalators or. ELEVATORS i 1106 00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,160 Speaker 1: think it's an. Escalator but you take it to the top, 1107 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,520 Speaker 1: level the top tier of the stadium behind home, plate 1108 00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,440 Speaker 1: and you walk out and there is the Entire Chavez 1109 00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:01,239 Speaker 1: Ravine stadium you know At Dodger stadium before, You but 1110 00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:05,720 Speaker 1: turn around and walk away from the stadium Because Chavez 1111 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,279 Speaker 1: ravine is then directly behind, you and it is an 1112 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:12,080 Speaker 1: unbelievable view of Downtown Los angeles and all of the 1113 00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,000 Speaker 1: canyons behind. You it is one of the most underrated 1114 00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,520 Speaker 1: views of the area Of Los angeles that you can 1115 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,879 Speaker 1: see from right there At Dodger, stadium and it's right 1116 00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:23,880 Speaker 1: behind home. Plate there's there's my tip for. 1117 00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:25,400 Speaker 3: YOU i appreciate. 1118 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,440 Speaker 6: That, YEAH i probably try to get something in the upper, 1119 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,920 Speaker 6: deck but, yeah, No i'll have to make sure to do. 1120 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,359 Speaker 1: That it's a great. Stadium and if you've been, there 1121 00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,120 Speaker 1: if you have to get there, early don't worry about 1122 00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,000 Speaker 1: it because there's a ton of. Sea there is literally 1123 00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,799 Speaker 1: a ton of baseball history to walk around see check. 1124 00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,680 Speaker 1: Out it is very, cool very very. Cool and The 1125 00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,680 Speaker 1: Dodger dogs are, overrated but you got to get, one 1126 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:45,120 Speaker 1: so there you. 1127 00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,680 Speaker 3: Go, ah, okay all, right all, right. COOL i appreciate, It, 1128 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:48,960 Speaker 3: John i'll take it all right. 1129 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,799 Speaker 1: Anytime John, nolan the radio play by play voice of 1130 00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:52,800 Speaker 1: The Indiana. Fever