WEBVTT - Mac & Bone Show - Tim Donnelley Interview 

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<v Speaker 1>Tim Donnelly is the host of The Drive on 99.9

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<v Speaker 1>The Fan in Raleigh. We call that station here on

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<v Speaker 1>our show, Bone, 99.9 The Gold. You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Gold has paid us to refer to that station

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<v Speaker 1>that way. But Tim Donnelly, very good in the afternoon

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<v Speaker 1>as well, and he joins us. Tim, what's going on, man?

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<v Speaker 1>How you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing well. You know, I wish I could come

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<v Speaker 2>on and talk about the things Adam talks with you

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<v Speaker 2>guys about because the Canes are much more fun than

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<v Speaker 2>talking football right now.

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<v Speaker 1>You ain't kidding.

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<v Speaker 3>Big win.

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<v Speaker 2>That's everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm sorry. You didn't get the Canes assignment. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sorry to mention that.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a big Adam Gold club on the text line

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<v Speaker 3>every Tuesday. Now I say club because it could vary

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<v Speaker 3>from fan club to get this guy off the radio club.

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<v Speaker 2>That is true.

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<v Speaker 3>Depending on the day of the week there, Tim.

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<v Speaker 1>Could go either way. Let's talk about Dave Doran and

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<v Speaker 1>the presser yesterday and just his era. I just I

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<v Speaker 1>just think that's such a classy way, Tim, to end

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<v Speaker 1>his era. We compared it to Ron Rivera. Ron Rivera

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do a presser after being fired. It's so

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<v Speaker 1>rare that coaches do that. And I just think he

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<v Speaker 1>deserves credit for that. And I think he deserves credit.

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<v Speaker 1>For his run, but also I understand why State fans

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<v Speaker 1>are like, hey, I'm glad we're trying something different. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you feel about all that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, without excusing any of the, you know, pitfalls that

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<v Speaker 2>he fell into later in his tenure with State. I

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<v Speaker 2>think you're exactly right. I think he tries to do

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<v Speaker 2>things the right way. I think he was hired to

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<v Speaker 2>win in a college football that doesn't exist anymore. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the skill set that, you know, made him

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<v Speaker 2>the right candidate when they moved on from Tom O'Brien

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<v Speaker 2>so many years ago probably also is why it's the

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<v Speaker 2>right time to move on from him now. But I

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<v Speaker 2>second you with what you said about Ron Rivera. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>I think these, like, traditional football guys, you feel like

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to be mean or they're going to light

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<v Speaker 2>the world on fire when they leave because they're so intense.

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<v Speaker 2>But really, they're just good dudes and they just fit

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<v Speaker 2>in in a locker room. So I think Dave Dorn

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<v Speaker 2>went out exactly how he coached, which is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>no nonsense, but classy at the same time.

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<v Speaker 3>Tim, it's kind of a two-fold question here about Dorn

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<v Speaker 3>and this season. How surprised are you from where we

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<v Speaker 3>thought this team was in the preseason that it got

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<v Speaker 3>to this point of a firing, and where did it

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<v Speaker 3>most go wrong to get here?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm unbelievably surprised, and I think there's enough receipts out

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<v Speaker 2>there of me talking about how hyped I was for

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<v Speaker 2>this NC State team. I can't say it any other way.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think we're all still learning where to

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<v Speaker 2>spend your money in college football. You know, if you

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<v Speaker 2>look at the NFL kind of model, a gigantic part

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<v Speaker 2>of the salary cap goes to the quarterback. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think that may be where it went wrong. And I

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<v Speaker 2>like C.J.

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<v Speaker 3>Bailey.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's a really, really good quarterback. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of the opportunity cost. Do you spend gigantic for

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<v Speaker 2>the quarterback? And that may come at the cost of

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<v Speaker 2>your left tackle and your running back and your receiver

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<v Speaker 2>and your defensive player. or do you kind of reverse

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<v Speaker 2>it and maybe go with a more Wake Forest strategy,

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<v Speaker 2>which is you shop the bargain basement for the quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>and perhaps have a little bit more for the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of your roster? You know, I think... They may have

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<v Speaker 2>spent their money in maybe the wrong place without knocking C.J.

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<v Speaker 2>Bailey too much. It's a really tough world if you

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<v Speaker 2>aren't one of the big, big spenders in college football.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, no doubt about it. We're talking with Tim

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<v Speaker 1>Donnelly from 99.9 The Fan in Raleigh, talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>Wolfpack football situation. Moving on from Dave Doran. um now

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<v Speaker 1>i want to ask this question kind of twofold tim

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<v Speaker 1>i want to ask how you feel about uh you

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<v Speaker 1>know philip rivers mania um and i want to know

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<v Speaker 1>how how are the state fans that are in your

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<v Speaker 1>listenership feeling like is this an idea that you and

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<v Speaker 1>the state fans are getting behind what do you think.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm i'm in on philip rivers um and for the

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<v Speaker 2>for the simple reason of In college football now, if

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<v Speaker 2>it's a quote-unquote bad hire, and I admit Phillip Rivers

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<v Speaker 2>is a risk, it doesn't set you back as long

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<v Speaker 2>as it used to. You can reset your roster in

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<v Speaker 2>a year. We're seeing it with NC State basketball. They

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<v Speaker 2>hire Will Wade. It goes horrendous. They're on to the

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<v Speaker 2>next coach the next year with a completely different roster.

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<v Speaker 2>So give Phillip Rivers the chance. He'll fundraise as well

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<v Speaker 2>as anybody ever has for that program, and he won't

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<v Speaker 2>even have to work that hard to do it just

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<v Speaker 2>because people will almost– you know, bend over backwards to

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<v Speaker 2>be in his orbit based on what he means to

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<v Speaker 2>them as a player. I will say it's more polarizing

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<v Speaker 2>in the fan base. I, you know, just sent out

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<v Speaker 2>a tweet saying, you know, before I hire any run

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<v Speaker 2>of the mill offensive coordinator from a CFP team or

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<v Speaker 2>a group of six, you know, hot coach, I would

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<v Speaker 2>make Phillip Rivers say no to me three times if

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<v Speaker 2>I were NC State. And the response is either, yay, Phillip,

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<v Speaker 2>or it's, Why in the world would you do this?

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<v Speaker 2>It invokes the low hire. There's no experience. You need

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<v Speaker 2>someone that knows what they're doing, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's it's I wouldn't say there's many people that

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<v Speaker 2>are lukewarm on a Philip Rivers hire. Everybody is either

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<v Speaker 2>all the way in or all the way out. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in the kind of all the way in category.

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<v Speaker 3>If it's not Rivers, what's another name or two that

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<v Speaker 3>intrigues you the most of the of the names that

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<v Speaker 3>we hear attached to the job?

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<v Speaker 2>If you're going to go the coordinator route, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a familiar name, but it's the younger generation. Mike Shanahan,

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<v Speaker 2>the offensive coordinator from Indiana, has been mentioned. Buster Faulkner,

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<v Speaker 2>the offensive coordinator from Florida, has been mentioned. He was

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<v Speaker 2>at Georgia Tech previously. And then, you know, the same

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<v Speaker 2>old names, the Dan Mullins, the Billy Napiers, the Jamie Chadwells.

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<v Speaker 2>these guys that have maybe had opportunities at bigger schools

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<v Speaker 2>and then come back down and kind of rebuilt themselves

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<v Speaker 2>at the group of six level. I tend to go

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<v Speaker 2>more coordinator than retread head coach. So, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>like what Buster did at Georgia Tech. That one might

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<v Speaker 2>fit if you're looking for somebody outside the NC State tree.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a very interesting name, man, no doubt about it.

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<v Speaker 1>What he did with Haynes King, what he's doing at Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot deny it. All right, let me ask you

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<v Speaker 1>this real quick before we let you go. On the

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<v Speaker 1>basketball side, because we're getting ready to do a hoop segment,

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<v Speaker 1>so let me start it now on the NC State side.

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<v Speaker 1>What is your feeling about the Justin Ganey era in

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<v Speaker 1>the short term, like this season, but also the bigger picture?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think it's a direct reaction to Will Wade.

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<v Speaker 2>I already brought it up. They went outside the family

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<v Speaker 2>for the hire. It didn't work. Justin Ganey is inside

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<v Speaker 2>the NC State family, played there, assistant, GA. He understands.

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<v Speaker 2>The question is really going to come down to Paul

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<v Speaker 2>McNeil Jr., a player that they worked very hard to

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<v Speaker 2>retain from last year's contract, who can get as hot

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<v Speaker 2>shooting the basketball as anybody. He had a 47-point game

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<v Speaker 2>last year. So if he can grow into a consistent,

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<v Speaker 2>every game, number one scorer, Justin Ganey comes in with

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<v Speaker 2>a defensive background from his time as an assistant, most

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<v Speaker 2>recently at Tennessee. I think they'll be solid defensively. The

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<v Speaker 2>offensive side that worries me a little bit, if Paul

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<v Speaker 2>McNeil can make that work, then I think they could

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<v Speaker 2>surprise some people. Long-term, I really like Justin Ganey. I've

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<v Speaker 2>talked to him a few times. He seems to get it.

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<v Speaker 2>He understands. And most importantly, I think he has an identity.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>In college basketball, you need to, you know, and this

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<v Speaker 2>is college football, too. You look at the portal, you

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<v Speaker 2>look at high school, there's thousands of names. You need

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<v Speaker 2>to have an identity so you can limit that to

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<v Speaker 2>like 200 to evaluate and really get to know who

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<v Speaker 2>you should bring in. His defensive identity, I think, can

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<v Speaker 2>serve them long term. And then his love for NC

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<v Speaker 2>State will go a long way as well.

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<v Speaker 3>The Field of 68 yesterday had a discussion. This is

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<v Speaker 3>before the Heels exhibition game against Charlotte. Could the Heels

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<v Speaker 3>miss the NCAA tournament? I thought that was a little ridiculous. However,

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<v Speaker 3>then I watched the game. I don't think it's true,

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<v Speaker 3>but how worrisome is this year one for Michael Malone

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<v Speaker 3>and really the depth of this team, this Heels team,

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<v Speaker 3>being a problem?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not worried about it. I think Michael Malone has

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<v Speaker 2>some real learning curves, but I think he's a guy

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<v Speaker 2>that will learn it quickly. Perfect example, the game against Charlotte, right?

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<v Speaker 2>He said in one of the early press conferences, timeouts,

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<v Speaker 2>he was telling his guys, like, relax, breathe, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get going. They look like the Keystone Cops. And,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there's a difference between motivating a 27-year-old or

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<v Speaker 2>30-year-old pro, right? Those guys motivate themselves. They show up,

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<v Speaker 2>they know what they're doing. Sometimes you've got to get

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<v Speaker 2>a 20-year-old, you know, out of bed. You know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean? Sometimes you've got to wake those guys up

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<v Speaker 2>and he'll learn. So there's there's learning curves for Michael Malone.

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<v Speaker 2>So early on, I think there's going to be some

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<v Speaker 2>some ugly ones. And you might you might say that

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<v Speaker 2>Charlotte game or exhibition game was one of them. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a big Dallas fan coming over on the transfer

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<v Speaker 2>portal from from Virginia Tech. I think Terrence Brown is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be able to fill it up. They have

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<v Speaker 2>some guys that I think just the talent level will

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<v Speaker 2>rise to the occasion eventually. All right, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, good to talk to you, Tim. We're sorry that

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<v Speaker 1>you do not get in on the Canes talk fun

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<v Speaker 1>that Adam Gold does with us. But the Canes won,

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<v Speaker 1>and they got the most points in the damn league.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course they do. Tim, keep up the good work, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for coming on.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it. And, yeah, there's misery loves company all

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<v Speaker 2>across the football world. So, you know, you guys keep

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<v Speaker 2>doing your thing with the Panthers. And we're trying. All right, brother.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, be good. There you go. That is Jim Donnelly.