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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Best of the Fan Morning show

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Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one oh seven five the

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Speaker 1: Fan James going on, yeah, look, this is what.

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Speaker 2: This is.

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Speaker 1: Celebrate this, guys, come on, let's go. This is the

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Speaker 1: kind of year that up until now. You need the

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Speaker 1: memory of a goldfish, right. I don't know what happened

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Speaker 1: the previous games for the Indiana Pacers, the previous like

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Speaker 1: seventy one games. I don't care. All I can remember.

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Speaker 1: All I know is Pascal Siakam and Jeff cruising on

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Speaker 1: over to stop Pawa Bencaro and hanging on for a win.

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Speaker 1: A dramatic, thrilling road win for the Indian But that's

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Speaker 1: all I can remember at this point in time.

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Speaker 3: Are they eliminated from playoff contention?

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Speaker 1: I look, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they make the ten seed playing.

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Speaker 1: I forgot again. Got the memory of a goldfish today?

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Speaker 4: New Year's Caleb, I kid you not. That is a

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Speaker 4: question my dad has asked me within the last week

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Speaker 4: because he had to keep up with the PACERSBA that much,

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Speaker 4: and he's got a I you know, I know, holler

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Speaker 4: burns hurt. How things are going. I'm like, you are

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Speaker 4: asking the wrong question. Brother.

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Speaker 1: I was listening to something while I was traveling this

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Speaker 1: past weekend. I can't remember who it was, but they

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Speaker 1: were talking about It was an NBA theme show and

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Speaker 1: they were talking how this might be Rick Carlile's greatest

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Speaker 1: coaching job ever, keeping his guys motivated, not winning basketball games,

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Speaker 1: getting young guys time, getting them better. He's just like

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Speaker 4: I can't drink that one.

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Speaker 1: But I just thought there was an interesting outside observation.

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Speaker 4: And I'll leave it at that, because I mean, I

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Speaker 4: want to, you know, keep it in context. You we're

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Speaker 4: all excited for the Paters to get a dub, and

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Speaker 4: you know, wouldn't hurt to knock off Lebron James More

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Speaker 4: all night over at game of Schruelthhouse. But pivoting a

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Speaker 4: little bit back to college basketball, I've been looking at

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Speaker 4: the way Purdue could match up with Texas, and I

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Speaker 4: do think there is you know, come this game, just

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Speaker 4: some things you have to do at athletically not athletically,

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Speaker 4: but you have to make sure you account for their athletes.

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Speaker 4: I'm looking at Cam Heidi and you kind of forget,

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Speaker 4: not forget, but you haven't seen it in a while.

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Speaker 4: But like what he brought to that team, and I'm like, man,

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Speaker 4: he's somebody could throw at Braden Smith. They have a

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Speaker 4: few more bodies to throw at them. And I think

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Speaker 4: Texas is the Cinderella Texas that is now in the

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Speaker 4: Sweet sixteen. They're dangerous, man, and I think you really

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Speaker 4: have to be disciplined to account for what they can

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Speaker 4: present when it comes to just mucking up the game

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Speaker 4: and winning in maybe a more ugly style then we'll

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Speaker 4: we've seen from the more efficient offensive Purdue. So I've

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Speaker 4: been thinking about that a lot, Kevin.

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Speaker 1: When you guys really stop and think about it. And

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Speaker 1: on this six game winning streak through the postseason and

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Speaker 1: now for Purdue, the defense has been there when they've

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Speaker 1: needed it. I thought they got stops all day long

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Speaker 1: number one seed in the Big Ten tournament. And their

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Speaker 1: At this point, I'm like, I know we're talking about Texas,

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Speaker 1: and I'm saying, like you, James, I'm expecting Texas' best game,

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Speaker 1: and but man, the Purdue boiler Makers, they've been getting

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Speaker 1: stuff off the bench from guys. CJ. Cox has been

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Speaker 1: terrific when he's had moments, Meyer has been terrific. Fletch

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Speaker 1: middle has been tremendous lately. Daniel Jacobson getting valuable minutes.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how much he's helping right now, but

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Speaker 1: he's getting valuable minutes for the future. Like everything. If

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Speaker 1: you're Matt Painter, you got to go to sleep feeling

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Speaker 5: I mean, your biggest question probably exiting Sunday non health

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Speaker 5: They also lost five or six going in the tournament.

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Speaker 5: I'm not. I'm not overreacting to Texas coming up on

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Speaker 5: Saturday because I can. And Arizona in Arkansas, I just

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Speaker 5: Purdue could honestly make the case. You can make the

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Speaker 5: you could discuss that, but that to me is just

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Speaker 5: a different element than what Purdue is obviously seen so far.

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Speaker 6: And that's why I think the healthless CJ. Cox is

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you could probably survive forty minutes on Thursday with

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Speaker 5: him to defend one of those guys coming up on Saturday,

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Speaker 5: that'll be vital.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is a tremendous run that these three seniors

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Speaker 1: Final four, they they're not new to this. Kevin Bowen,

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Speaker 4: Do you think this is perhaps so far, you all,

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Speaker 4: the best way the bracket could have unfolded for Purdue to.

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Speaker 1: This point in time, I think, yes, you'd have to

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Speaker 6: I saw the bracket pop up.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, oh man, you know, it feels like I

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Speaker 5: have no idea what Matt Painters record is against Mark Few,

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Speaker 5: every time, I feel like the bracket has broken nicely.

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Speaker 5: You know, I still look at the top half and think, wow,

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Speaker 5: you know, Utah State pulling off the upisode would have

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Speaker 6: But you know, it is interesting.

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Speaker 5: I've been thinking about this a little bit more over

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Speaker 5: the past day or so, of like, how do he

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Speaker 5: kind of contextualize produce seven sweet sixteens and nine years? Like,

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Speaker 5: But when you boil it down to our state, it's

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Speaker 5: even more insanely impressive what they've done. If you go

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Speaker 5: back on these nine years, I use made the tournament

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Speaker 5: How many times the Butler made made the tournament in

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Speaker 5: a rough run. How many times have it? Like a

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Speaker 5: mid major in our state made the tournament. Yeah, and

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Speaker 5: he had a state baby which didn't get in here.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I use made it twice. Notre Dame's made it.

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Speaker 5: I mean think about that. Those three schools, the other

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Speaker 5: times in the last nine years. Purdue has made the

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Speaker 5: Sweet sixteen. Not just making the tournament, they've made the

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Speaker 5: Final sixteen seven times. In hard man like, it's I

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Speaker 5: get and again we've talked about this. When you have

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Speaker 5: that success, you just keep on saying no, no, no.

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Speaker 5: The peak of the mountains all the way up there,

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Speaker 5: and Purdue is as close as you can get to it.

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Speaker 5: But hell, I mean Indiana, Notre Dame, Butler, these programs,

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Speaker 5: they're back on ground zero, just hoping and praying someone

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Speaker 4: To your point, Kevin, I don't think there's been many

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Speaker 4: times we've talked about for doing the Bubble this past

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Speaker 4: Kevin is it's it's sort of an old school build

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Speaker 4: Matt Painter, because you have found the right caliber of

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Speaker 4: because it takes a lot it probably more so on

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Speaker 4: quite frankly, and so to be rewarded for that in

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Speaker 4: this fashion, especially in this senior year with these guys,

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Speaker 4: it's commendable. But I know they're greedy too, and they

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Speaker 4: don't want it to end at this on a weekend.

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Speaker 1: One of the things to keep in mind, though, you

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Speaker 1: go back to the Carson Edwards team and then to

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Speaker 1: the first time around for getting to the championship game

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Speaker 1: for this group of seniors here. Other than those two teams,

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Speaker 1: though Matt Painter, those two teams got past the sweet sixteen.

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Speaker 1: The other ones that he's had have not. So let's

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Speaker 1: see if this group of special players can keep that going.

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Speaker 1: And you take a look at the list of the

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Speaker 1: other guys that are coaches in the sweet sixteen right now,

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Speaker 1: there are some heavyweights. Man Patino.

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Speaker 8: You know what.

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Speaker 1: Rick Patino's all time record in the sweet sixteen is

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Speaker 1: twelve and one.

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Speaker 6: Wow, that's insane. Makes me feel better about having sat

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Speaker 6: John's on the final four.

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Speaker 1: John cala Perry is twelve four in the sweet sixteen.

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Speaker 5: Is there any part of you that would rather face

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Speaker 5: Arizona than Arkansas if you are Purdue. Do you look

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Speaker 5: at a cuff and you look at John cal Perry's

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Speaker 6: That is that overthinking it?

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Speaker 4: I think so? Because they're so they are being Arizona,

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Speaker 1: For sure, It's gonna be a lot of fun. But

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's gonna be a lot of fun to watch.

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Speaker 4: Looking at this Midwest side a little bit. This Michigan

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Speaker 9: They looked fine in the entire first weekend. They were

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's what I've been thinking about when it comes

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if they can get to like, I think I'll

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Speaker 4: because Michigan is a great defense.

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Speaker 3: He said, That's the thing.

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Speaker 4: I like that eighty one eighty one and a half.

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Speaker 1: Is Texas the closest thing to Cinderella we have left

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Speaker 5: I'll like Kevin Wayan, he loves I think it's Iowa

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Speaker 5: I mean, hell, Cam Heidi might be making more money

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm gonna say, if you want to define Cinderella,

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know if you haven't in front

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Speaker 6: School standpoint there.

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Speaker 5: But you know, obviously we're not getting anything, you know Tennessee, right,

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Speaker 5: you know, just from a chalk standpoint, which is kind

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Speaker 6: But yeah, we don't. We don't have that there.

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Speaker 5: But you know, again, when you look at the Sweet

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Speaker 6: When's the last time they have made to Sweet sixteen?

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Speaker 5: Didn't fran McCaffrey go Opher in his career there and

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Speaker 5: You know that Illinois offense facing a Kelvin Sampson defense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll be a little nervous watching that. I picked

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Speaker 4: I mean, I could seriously see them winning because they're

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Speaker 6: But having more crash outed for him.

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Speaker 5: You know, we live in our Purdue bubble understandably, but

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Speaker 6: Kevin's that's not a good question, Kelvin's career.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, this is that thought there of how

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Speaker 5: many more chances are you going to get? They have

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Speaker 5: two elite freshmen, two freshmen that could be lottery picks.

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Speaker 5: But Emmanuel Sharp's a fifth year senior. Uzan's been there

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Speaker 5: it's kind of like, all right, you know, how many

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Speaker 6: So tons and tons of storylines.

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Speaker 1: Uh, just curious too. If you guys have talked much

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Speaker 6: You're taking Big ten of the field, Jeff.

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Speaker 1: I'm taking between missions. It's a good question. I think

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Speaker 1: only because I think Arizona Duke really good. I probably

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Speaker 1: fifty one forty nine in the field, like fifty one

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Speaker 6: I should be in Vegas.

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Speaker 1: Man, oh Man, by the way, he's spading a big ten.

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Speaker 1: How do Ohio State due any tournament? Caleb?

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Speaker 4: Can you bet on that he's a duke best loss?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: No, you gotta remember this saying I'm not going to

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Speaker 4: I mean, we got enough time here. Can you explain this?

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Speaker 4: Can you explain your allegiances Ohio State football fan and

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Speaker 3: Hey, I feel like.

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Speaker 1: He's very selective. So he likes Ohio State football, but

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Speaker 4: I'll let him explain.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, and I and I appreciate the opportunity to.

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Speaker 9: I won't bore people with this, but I do feel

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Speaker 9: like people in Indiana get it. They're notre dame football

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Speaker 9: I don't know is that a thing?

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Speaker 3: I've ran into.

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Speaker 5: A lot of people used to be and then I

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Speaker 1: Football.

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Speaker 4: From Kevin and Caleb here could continue.

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Speaker 9: And I thought my dad was like a Duke fan,

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Speaker 3: I know it's weird.

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Speaker 9: It probably I probably should get hated on for it,

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Speaker 1: The strangest thing I've ever seen. And many many years ago,

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Speaker 4: Again? This falls in lou with my theme of sinning,

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Speaker 4: You know what I was actually watching and it was

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Speaker 5: But of course, Bruce Webber his first head coaching job

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Speaker 5: You know, hope health wise, travel wise, you know, he's

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Speaker 5: able to get there to San Jose and be there

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Speaker 5: for that because I have enjoyed the few clips I've

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Speaker 5: seen from a coach Katie there falling the Boilers here

438
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Speaker 5: in the month of March.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been fun to watch him and I like

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Speaker 1: the fact that the cameras have frequently pointed out his

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Speaker 1: reactions to stuff, which has been a lot of fun,

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Speaker 1: and that's been enjoyable to watch too. Of all these

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Speaker 1: Sweet Sixteen games, though, and there are some, there are

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Speaker 1: some matchups. Man, if we exclude the Purdue Texas game,

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Speaker 1: which we're talking about and most interested in. What is

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Speaker 1: the one game that you mentioned Kevin Illinois and Houston

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Speaker 1: that's a three seed against a two seed. Any other

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Speaker 1: games that you just like you cannot wait to watch

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Speaker 1: tip up.

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Speaker 4: Well to not be a homer in s Illinois Houston,

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Speaker 4: I will go and say it's probably Arizona Arkansas. Again,

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Speaker 4: I think Arizona has an argument through the best team

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Speaker 4: in the country, and then Daris, a cub junior right now,

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Speaker 4: has an argument to be the best player in the country.

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Speaker 4: So those matchups are always low intriguing to me.

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Speaker 1: Insane how great all the these matchups are though, And

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Speaker 1: maybe that just comes with the seeds advancing the.

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Speaker 4: Way they've talked about Michigan State and Yukon.

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Speaker 1: I know, I was just looking at that you talk

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Speaker 1: about the two coaches we mentioned a moment ago and

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Speaker 1: uh In Danny Hurley and Tom Izzo and you got

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Speaker 1: Duke Saint John's Are you kidding me? I mean Duke

463
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Speaker 1: still banged up a little bit in the backcourt, and

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Speaker 1: Saint John's with Patino right now they are cruising.

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Speaker 4: They look like a really tough out at this point

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Speaker 4: in time. Yeah, definitely. So it'll be a lot of

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Speaker 4: neglected responsibilities. Is that coming weekend?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? And if you like basketball at all, if you

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Speaker 1: like college basketball and cababis so, I don't know.

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Speaker 9: I thought that was funny. Neglected responsibilities.

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Speaker 4: Let's be honest, are Okay, I obviously do not have

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Speaker 4: the responsibilities you all have. But Kevin, what is the

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Speaker 4: plan here? To watch not every game but the ones

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Speaker 4: you want to really see.

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Speaker 6: No, we're gonna do our best watch every game.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 1: I will tell you this. Kevin's in a sweet spot

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Speaker 1: right now, and I'll explain because I went through this

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Speaker 1: a couple of times when, especially my first born, my

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Speaker 1: oldest was born. I've told you guys on selection Sunday. Yes,

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Speaker 1: what a great way to give your wife a break

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Speaker 1: and just hold the baby if you need to. During

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Speaker 1: you know, timeouts are very frequent. You change the kid

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Speaker 1: during the timeouts. I enjoyed having my firstborn son in

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Speaker 1: my arms watching March Madness, and I was like, you know,

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Speaker 1: you rest for a while. I'll take care of the

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Speaker 1: kid right now.

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Speaker 4: So do you find that your plan? Father, Kevin, that's

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Speaker 4: the plan.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I not to speak for newborn mothers, but I don't

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Speaker 5: think there's much rest in it.

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Speaker 6: All though, well no, there isn't.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, at least you give them a chance

495
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Speaker 1: to not have to worry about physically taking care of

496
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Speaker 1: the little one right though. That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: We have physical limitations if we No, I got you

498
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Speaker 5: anatomy class here starting the nine o'clock hour.

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Speaker 1: I understand. Maybe it's because, for whatever reasons, my kids

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Speaker 1: they just wanted.

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Speaker 5: The chest for me has grown a lot over the years,

502
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Speaker 5: not the way I'd like it to grow, but it

503
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Speaker 5: can't grow.

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Speaker 4: These kids were a little more well behaved. They would

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Speaker 4: go to sleep on command. No, snap the fingers in,

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Speaker 4: they're out now it's basketball time.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, we didn't have to go through what

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Speaker 1: you're going through in that particular face.

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Speaker 6: They went to sleep to one shining moment probably Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean it was a selection Sunday baby they got

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Speaker 4: to give it the program.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So anyway, looking forward to all these games Thursday

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Speaker 1: and Friday, the Sweet sixteen is going to be must

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Speaker 1: see TV. And I can't wait for this weekend to

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Speaker 1: take place. Uh And it is very chalky, and it

516
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Speaker 1: looks it's great to have underdogs and Cinderella's to root for,

517
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Speaker 1: but there's also something kind of intriguing about just heavyweights

518
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Speaker 1: duking it out game after game after game.

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Speaker 6: You might have to go dual screen.

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Speaker 5: You're on the four A call for the state finals

521
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Speaker 5: very well, perdue could be tipping.

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Speaker 1: I will probably in that time, so I will probably do.

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Speaker 1: There's no way I'm not going to find out about

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Speaker 1: it at the Fieldhouse, probably, but I'll definitely watch it

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Speaker 1: in its entirety when I get home.

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Speaker 5: Luke Gurdle trying to win a state championship, Purdue trying

527
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Speaker 5: and go to the Final four at the same time,

528
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Speaker 5: that very well could be the case coming up.

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Speaker 1: And Matt have a huge weekend. It'd be a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun, all right, coming up. In just a moment,

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Speaker 1: we'll continue our talk about the Indiana Pacers finally busting

532
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Speaker 1: down the walls and getting past an opponent last night

533
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Speaker 1: we'll do that more on the upcoming Sweet sixteen. Coming

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Speaker 1: up in the nine o'clock hour, we'll talk to CJ.

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Speaker 1: Moore from The Athletic he covers college basketball for them,

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Speaker 1: and Bruce Webber from the Big Ten Network. We'll close

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Speaker 1: out the show at nine forty five. This morning, we'll

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Speaker 1: take your phone calls and read some text for the

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Speaker 1: first time this morning. Coming up in a moment as well.

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Speaker 1: Two three, nine, ten seventy It's the Fan Morning Show,

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Speaker 1: and I'll tell you a little bit more about the

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Speaker 1: upcoming Fan Invitational golf tournament, which is starting to fill

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Speaker 1: up pretty quickly as we continue it. Ninety three five

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Speaker 1: and one oh seven five The Fan. Caleb doing a

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Speaker 1: great job today and already people lobbying for you to

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Speaker 1: be full time. Hey, Caleb, enough so he didn't have

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Speaker 1: to have another jovel. We hired you part time. We're

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Speaker 1: happy to have you when we can get you. Well,

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Speaker 1: you won't have us full time, so I haven't seen that.

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Speaker 4: I think that's how I guess I appreciate it. A

551
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Speaker 4: very fitting re entry there from Caleb. This from Anthony's childress,

552
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Speaker 4: who's a P one listener to Caleb's point about fandom.

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Speaker 4: I am a Notre Dame football fan and an IU

554
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Speaker 4: basketball fan. I need them gates to open from me too,

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Speaker 4: Yeah we can.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 4: And lit talking about one.

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Speaker 1: He's been with us forever, he had children, he's been

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Speaker 1: He's been terrific. And by the way, uh, you're getting

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Speaker 1: a lot of discussion on the text line today. Caleb I,

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Speaker 1: Greg P says, let me guess Caleb is also a

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Speaker 1: Warriors and a Dodgers fan too.

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Speaker 3: My my professional sports fan. It is also weird, but

564
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Speaker 3: it's it's not that bad. I promise.

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Speaker 7: That's great.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Kyle from Fisher says too, Butler basketball fan,

567
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Speaker 1: Notre Dame football fan. James am I saved what am

568
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Speaker 1: I supposed to do? Die harden the FCS circuit. I

569
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Speaker 1: do pay some of my attention to be you football.

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Speaker 4: Me and me and God are pretty close. So I

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Speaker 4: have some conversations later today and see if I can

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Speaker 4: you know, pass along salvation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I did want to give a shout out

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Speaker 1: to We've been talking about the Marrion women's basketball team

575
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Speaker 1: and a lot of our checkdowns this past couple of weeks.

576
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Speaker 1: The women's basketball team is playing for the NAI championship

577
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Speaker 1: this week.

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Speaker 5: I want to say tonight they've been my number two team.

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Speaker 5: I think it was Dakota. Yeah, Wesley, and if I'm

580
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Speaker 5: not mistaken, last night there so they got the number one.

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Speaker 6: Team in all the lands.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that is I believe tonight in Sioux City

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Speaker 5: for the Mayor and the Marion.

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Speaker 6: I've just been an absolute wagon over the years.

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Speaker 1: We'll have some more details on that coming up in

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Speaker 1: the checkdown. At a moment here, Yeah, sho it's to

587
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Speaker 1: Kenna Kirby. Her brother listens to our show.

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Speaker 4: He's in the YouTube check Kyle Kirby said he I

589
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Speaker 4: can give her a shout out. So there we got

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Speaker 4: Try West finals that I know they have.

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Speaker 5: I think, if I want to believe, two or three

592
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Speaker 5: of their starters from the state of Indiana. So yeah,

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Speaker 5: they've been a tremendous program there. So I want to

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Speaker 5: say it's tonight at eight.

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Speaker 1: All right, We'll talk more about that coming up in

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Speaker 1: the checkdown. Meanwhile, a reminder April thirtieth, it's starting to

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Speaker 1: fill up a little bit. Legends Golf Club gonna be

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun. I know we've got to some

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Speaker 1: some former baseball players that are going to be playing there.

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Speaker 1: When I say former players, we're talking about Cincinnati Ritz

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Speaker 1: Brownsburg's own Kevin can't wait for that. We just got

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Speaker 1: done talking to Tyler not too long ago. Tucker, Tucker

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Speaker 1: Barnehearts are about that? Did I say, Tyler? There we go?

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Speaker 4: Fine?

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Speaker 1: But anyway, that's coming up April thirtieth. Mark your calendars

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Speaker 1: for that day over at Legends Golf Club down there

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Speaker 1: in Franklin. It's obviously presented by Franciscan Health. They do

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Speaker 1: such a great job and all the proceeds benefit the

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Speaker 1: Franciscan Health Foundation. We're all going to be there. Jake'llb

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Speaker 1: be around the three of us. Caleb, you're invited to, man,

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Speaker 1: come on down.

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Speaker 3: I'm planning on being there in some capacity.

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Speaker 1: I like that, and so it's going to be you know,

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Speaker 1: do some free cancer screenings if you haven't been to

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Speaker 1: the doctor for a while, hang out, play golf. It's free,

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Speaker 1: available on site the courtesy of Franciscan Health Cancer Center.

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Speaker 1: You can bid on one of a kind experiences, sports

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Speaker 1: memorabilion more at the Silent Auction. It's a lot more

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Speaker 1: than just a golf outing. It's an opportunity to connect compete,

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Speaker 1: contribute a lot of fun. Secure your spot today, go

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Speaker 1: to one oh seven to five to the fan dit

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Speaker 1: and you can register for the golf tournament today. Last night,

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Speaker 1: the Indiana Pacers snapping a sixteen game losing streak. That's

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Speaker 1: a franchise record, And Kevin to put that into perspective again,

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Speaker 1: you've been talking about it, but for people just joining

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Speaker 1: us and waking up this morning, the last time they

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Speaker 1: won a game was the week of the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it has been quite quite a while. I believe

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Speaker 5: that's pre All Star Break. If that adds any sort

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Speaker 5: of perspective for that.

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Speaker 4: Does All Star Break seems like a lifetime ago?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: And you know, for those that didn't watch last night,

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Speaker 5: I did think it was fitting. The Big Three really

635
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Speaker 5: made so many plays to kind of seal it last night.

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Speaker 6: Aaron E.

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Speaker 5: Smith patton it offensive rebound and trying to keep a

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Speaker 5: possession alive, Andrew Nemhard pattent it step back, left wing,

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Speaker 5: late shot clock.

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Speaker 6: I thought that was gonna be the icer but ended

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Speaker 6: up not being it.

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Speaker 5: And then Siakam and it almost seems like Jay Huff

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Speaker 5: deserves a half a block on the last play. You know,

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Speaker 5: I felt like when Paula bank Row Magic are down

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Speaker 5: two they inbounded to Don Carroll. He gets kind of

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Speaker 5: that early step on Siakam and Jay Huff did a

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Speaker 5: wonderful job of kind of getting to the front of

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Speaker 5: the rim there and trying to do his best, you know,

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Speaker 5: Roy Hibbert verticality, and that made bon Carrol have to

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Speaker 5: kind of adjust a little bit, and then Siakam kind

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Speaker 5: of cleaned it up from the backside there. I'll be

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Speaker 5: curious with the two minute reports us today on that one,

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Speaker 5: but certainly the magic we're hoping for a call to

654
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 5: magic have been real.

655
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 6: And they lost four in a row. Obviously the Pacers

656
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 6: say hold my beer when it comes to that.

657
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 5: But yeah, for those that are all in on the

658
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 5: tank and very worried about what that win means, the

659
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 5: Pacers have lost so much they could afford a win.

660
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 5: Now do you want to see them win three or four?

661
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 5: And the last line again again, the Pacers could afford

662
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 5: a win, just they could afford maybe two wins now.

663
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 5: I don't want to get too too greedy for those

664
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 5: looking at the odds, but not to nerd over any

665
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 5: of the math. But they are still in a very

666
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 5: comfortable position to secure the best odds, and to remind

667
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,719
Speaker 5: everybody the best odds are what is it, fourteen percent

668
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 5: for the first pick, and I think it's fifty two

669
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 5: percent for a top four pick.

670
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 6: So again it's not.

671
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 5: Like these are overwhelmingly great odds, but they are still

672
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,959
Speaker 5: the best odds you can have if you have the first, second,

673
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 5: or third worst record.

674
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 6: Those are the odds coming your way here on Mother's

675
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 6: Day for the lottery.

676
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: Well, they got the win last night over Orlando. Pascal

677
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: Siakam was terrific as always, he's got I know that

678
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: people talk really well of him, spoke really well of

679
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: him going into the All Star break and getting the

680
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: All Star team. But there isn't one team in the

681
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: NBA they wouldn't like to have them some Pascal Siakam

682
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: is there, James, not one, not a single team.

683
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 4: My boy can do it all. He is mister Pacer

684
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 4: this year especially, so that looked like he really enjoyed

685
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 4: that one last night. And we all know Pascal Siakam

686
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 4: is a winner, so should be a lot more of

687
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 4: that come next season.

688
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again you start to take a look at

689
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: what they have left and what they have to do

690
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: It's going to be really difficult to not have one

691
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: of the four worst records in the NBA. I think

692
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: the fifth worst records Utah. Right now, I think they're

693
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: five full games behind the Jazz. They'd really have to

694
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,479
Speaker 1: go on a run here to screw that four one

695
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: of the four worst records.

696
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 6: Up Lakers tomorrow.

697
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 5: You know, I do think about this as Lebron is

698
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 5: whatever walking up the seventeenth or eighteenth hole here.

699
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 6: Of his career. I'd have to double check this.

700
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 5: I believe the Pacers of the team Lebron has played

701
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 5: the most in his career. You add up all the games,

702
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 5: it is the Pacers. So yeah, to James's point, Lebron

703
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 5: definitely strikes me as an individual that will want to

704
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 5: celebrate his swan song a little bit more. But you

705
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 5: know whatever, if he gets hurt next year, you know,

706
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 5: tomorrow night could be the last one. Or if he

707
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 5: doesn't play obviously tomorrow I could be it. For those

708
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 5: that are curious about it again, matherin Friday, but I

709
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 5: believe that toe injury still flaring up for him. He

710
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 5: has not played in the last week or so, so

711
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 5: PACER's now back at home for three here. They got

712
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 5: ten games left in the regular season.

713
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: Kay, we were talking about Lebron Jameson who was with

714
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: Cleveland for a while. Mister Ohio, were you a Calves

715
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: fan only when Lebron played for Cleveland or had.

716
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 3: That work to see?

717
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 9: And people will probably question my loyalty based on my

718
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 9: college fandom, But I stayed at Calves fan throughout Okay,

719
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 9: so even when he left both times.

720
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: So where were you at during that thrilling playoff series

721
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: last year?

722
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 9: At home listening to some of these shows on these airwaves, salty,

723
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 9: but also taking my medicine because yeah, I mean, the

724
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 9: pace what the Pacers did was special.

725
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: So but yeah, I thought poor Donovan Mitchell was just

726
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: going to die of exhaustion by games. He gave it

727
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: his all. Man, I Kevin, I am, I just met

728
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: the pace of the Pacers just wore him down. I

729
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: said that.

730
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 9: Too, now, Kevin, I am excited for tomorrow. Just anytime

731
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 9: I think one of the greatest players, and no matter

732
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 9: what you think about him, anytime one of the greatest

733
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 9: players is in the area and coming to the city,

734
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 9: like I think, it's always interesting. I went to the

735
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 9: Laker Pacer game last year and it was extremely exciting,

736
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 9: and it's just and it's.

737
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 6: Just at the tipping Yes, it was.

738
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 9: And I just think anytime Lakers are a national brand,

739
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 9: national team, so you get a lot of their fans

740
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 9: on the road, and I think it's an event.

741
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 3: So I think it's cool.

742
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, And Lebron has had some very nice things to

743
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 5: say about playing here, the atmosphere here, the regular season

744
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 5: atmosphere here. You know, obviously I think we've played the

745
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 5: audio here recently with him and Steve Nash in the podcast,

746
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 5: whether they're talking specifically with Tyreese Halliburton on their podcast

747
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 5: or talking about the Zubots trade. You know, he's had

748
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 5: very glowing remarks about Indiana's current iteration. I was thinking

749
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 5: about this yesterday, James. I know you you brought up

750
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 5: the Zubot's broken ribs situation out for the year and

751
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 5: this that's kind of where I do compare things a

752
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 5: little bit to the Colts in the Sauce gardener trade,

753
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 5: and it's kind of a reminder of a month and

754
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 5: a half from now when the lottery does arrive here

755
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 5: and the Pacers sit there and they've got those ping

756
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 5: pong balls, and again, even with their current situation, they

757
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 5: still have just a coin flip chance, just slightly above

758
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 5: a coin flip chance getting the top four pick. But

759
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 5: you know, for Sasce Gardner, he played what was it

760
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 5: four games?

761
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 6: Is that what he played?

762
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 5: James yep with the Colts Zubats it was five games

763
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 5: here and obviously there are a lot of circumstances around Zubots.

764
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 5: But to me, it's just a reminder when you make

765
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 5: these trades, multiple draft picks for one player, and then

766
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 5: the Pacers case, you know, Benedict Matheren definitely has done

767
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 5: more in his professional career than Ady Mitchell. But again,

768
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 5: multiple first round picks for one player and you're throwing

769
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 5: in another young piece that is offering somewhat of intrigue

770
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 5: around the league. It puts so much individual pressure on

771
00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 5: that one player to hit to be successful because that's

772
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 5: the only piece of the trade you're getting. So for

773
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 5: the Colts they have to have Sauce Gardener available and

774
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 5: being one of the unquestioned best cornerbacks in the entire NFL. Yeah,

775
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 5: And for the Pacers, they obviously sit here and in

776
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 5: a month and a half will know was the trade

777
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 5: one or was it two?

778
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 6: The one is Zubat's well, again, any little Nick injury,

779
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 6: any little just slight chink in the armor, it's blown

780
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 6: up because he's the only part of the trade. Now again,

781
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 6: in a month and a half from now, you might

782
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 6: have another piece in that trade, you might have that

783
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:41,439
Speaker 6: top four pick.

784
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 5: So that's what I think. Just it was a reminder

785
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 5: of me when I saw that news. Well, not the

786
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 5: magnitude of Sauce Gardener, because you can't really compare the

787
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 5: franchises right now in their recent runs here from a

788
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 5: winning standpoint, But James, it's like when you make two

789
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,240
Speaker 5: first round picks plus young piece, whether it's eighty Mitchell,

790
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 5: whether it's been Nick Matheren, there's so much pressure on

791
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 5: that individual guy that you get in return. And for

792
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 5: the Pacers case, there's so much pressure on the coin

793
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 5: flip that's coming here in a month and a half.

794
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 4: And that's basically what it is right now. What is

795
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 4: it fifty two point one percent chance of getting a

796
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 4: top four pick, and it's greater than not, but still

797
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 4: that is quite the gamble, quite the risk. And we

798
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 4: talked about a lot here on these airwaves, Kevin and Jeff,

799
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 4: But if you do want to find a silver lining

800
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 4: for circumstances that you currently do not necessarily control fully.

801
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 4: It's that, in my opinion, the Pacers have earned this

802
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 4: level of trust. You've seen them flip it in a

803
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 4: matter of years. I mean my first year covering them

804
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 4: was twenty twenty one to twenty two and they were terrible.

805
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 4: They make the big tray for Halliburton, who at the

806
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 4: time was identified as a good player, but not all

807
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 4: NBA top ten, you know, mister fourth quarter like we

808
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 4: saw in last year's playoff run. Because in hindsight, if

809
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 4: everyone knew Halliburn was going to be that, the price

810
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 4: would have been a lot high, quite frankly. And so

811
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 4: you make that trade and you see some progress. You

812
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 4: make another huge trades, get Pascal Siakam and that helps

813
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 4: you reach the finals. You pivot from Miles to Zoobots

814
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 4: now and you make another trade. And so, yes, there's risk,

815
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 4: Yes you have a valid reason to feel like, man,

816
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 4: this might not work. But I feel more confident in

817
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 4: that front office than I do for the Colts, because

818
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 4: the Colts have not delivered. They have not had the

819
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 4: same level of success, or really any success within the

820
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 4: last five years of this playoff list season. After season.

821
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would agree.

822
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 5: I think the Pacers deep down would even say, yes,

823
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 5: we believe in ourselves. We also know it's a coin flip.

824
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 5: I mean, now it's out of your control.

825
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 4: But how much do you think it's worth to make

826
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 4: a move like this and tangentially tell your superstar we

827
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 4: think you're going to be the same player and we're

828
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 4: going to go right back and compete for it again. Like,

829
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 4: I don't wonder how much that is worth. I know

830
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 4: you can't quantify now because the ping pong balls haven't fallen,

831
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 4: But I do think that's a big point to make

832
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 4: because they're basically saying we're going all in again and

833
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 4: you're gonna be our guy.

834
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's worth something, But the talent's worth more.

835
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 5: The actual player is worth more. Like that's a little

836
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 5: bit of like, you know, whatever, me trying to pump

837
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 5: up Jeff and being like, Jeff, you have biked your

838
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 5: whole life. You are one of the most elite cyclists

839
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 5: in the entire world. You go win the Tour de France,

840
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,959
Speaker 5: it's like whoaa, whoa, So.

841
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:32,479
Speaker 3: Is it better?

842
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 5: Given Sunday I could have Herb Brooks, I could have

843
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 5: Denzel Washington. I could have Gordon bomb Bay's speeches till

844
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 5: the end of time and you could say to Tyres Aliburn, look, man, we.

845
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 6: Believe in you. Look what we're doing to you. And

846
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 6: it's like, yeah, how about aj de Banson next to me?

847
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 4: Do you think they will make sign off on this

848
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 4: tray for zoobots if Halliburn's sitting there like, nah, just

849
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 4: give me the top five pick, like they have to

850
00:38:58,600 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 4: do something right to get better.

851
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 3: Or would you have prefer.

852
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 4: Them as to just say, hey, we'll keep the pick

853
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 4: and figure it out from there.

854
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, And again this kind of gets back

855
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 5: into the debate of how are you acquiring that center

856
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 5: given the abundance of wings in this draft, theoretically given

857
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 5: Benedict Matherin. You know, I think there's a looming thing

858
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 5: with Matherin of would he have resigned here? And that

859
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 5: answer I think a lot of people believe is no.

860
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 5: So then at that point are you kind of saying,

861
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 5: all right, this almost makes sense to us. We think

862
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 5: he's a good talent, but we need a center and

863
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 5: if we can recoup the Matherin I say that in

864
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 5: quotes in the draft, then that's the best Avenue for US.

865
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 5: So I think the Pacers would admit this is probably

866
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 5: the riskiest move they have done. Of all of these ones.

867
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 5: They've done, the trade for Haliburton, the trade for Siakam.

868
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 5: I think they deep down say this is probably the

869
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 5: risky one because again, a huge, huge part of the trade.

870
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 6: Is literally coming down to a coin flip a huge party.

871
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: So good news. This is a very deep field and

872
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: so if you do get one of those first four,

873
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna get a really good player.

874
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 5: Sure, I mean again, and that's probably why they've fit

875
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 5: Pacers felt, you know, very whatever comfortable about a top

876
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 5: four pick protection. But you know what the math has said, right,

877
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 5: the team with the worst record each of the last

878
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 5: three years has gotten the fifth pick, right, So that

879
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 5: continues for a fourth year.

880
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 6: It's Zubats. That's it.

881
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 4: Well, Laurie, you got to talk to guy later today

882
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 4: about Caleb's fandom. So maybe I'll chime in there and

883
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 4: be like, hey, by the way, don't ask.

884
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: Do you have a list like you carry around in

885
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: your back pocket. You have a list of things you

886
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: got to talk to?

887
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 6: Yeah?

888
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 4: Of course, man, you know what they say, closed mouths

889
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 4: don't get fans.

890
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 9: I thought to God often sorry Pacer fans, Caleb takes

891
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 9: priority here. Okay, he's first on the list. Boot off

892
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 9: the airwaves.

893
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: Brother, you you are getting a lot of love on

894
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: the textllent. Well, love and discussion. I should say it's

895
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: great discussion. So that's always good stuff. Here. It's the

896
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: Fan morning show. Kevin Bowen, James Boyd with his list

897
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: in his back pocket. Caleb Azoover with whoever whatever team

898
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 1: is trending today, his favorite.

899
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 3: Just call me a bandwagon bro.

900
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 9: Now, like, come on, like it's loyalty first, but it

901
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 9: is weird.

902
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 3: Well, it's weird.

903
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 4: It's funny you mentioned that, Caleb, because now I'm on

904
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 4: a tangent. I had a student reach out shout out

905
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 4: to Bryson Hill from Ben Davis. He was one of

906
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 4: my guys, and I've joined his podcast and talked to

907
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 4: their a little radio establishment over there, and he texted

908
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 4: me and say he's doing a show on hot takes.

909
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 4: So he asked me, what is your sports hot take?

910
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 4: And I told them that I think bandwagon fans are geniuses.

911
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 4: And I was kind of not being for real, but

912
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 4: I do. This is my real hot take on sports.

913
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 4: If you spend ten years with a miserable team with

914
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 4: a miserable owner, I should say you should be able

915
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 4: to leave with no ill will, no bandwagon talk, because

916
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 4: bad owners will ruin your fandom. I'm so serious about that. Like,

917
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,479
Speaker 4: if you're waiting around for fifty years for an owner

918
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 4: to pass away, to get better, just leave, like ten years,

919
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 4: you have a clean slate, go join another team that's

920
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,439
Speaker 4: competent with a decent owner. I'm serious. Yeah, Like, could

921
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 4: you imagine being a Bulls fan right now their owner

922
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 4: is terrible? No, I wouldn't do it. So there's my

923
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 4: hot take.

924
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 3: Bengals fans, I think I'm serious.

925
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 9: If your owner is bad, I'm so serio you can

926
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 9: leave fan contracts.

927
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 4: I like, yes, ten years, I'm out.

928
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 5: We got this tweet here he goes. I don't think

929
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,439
Speaker 5: Pacers wanted to extend Mather, and I don't think they're

930
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 5: that excited about any of.

931
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 6: The top draft picks outside of the first four.

932
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 5: So they got a player in zoo Bots that they

933
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 5: know they love without giving up much in their eyes.

934
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 6: Has Darius Acuff change that conversation?

935
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 7: He's awfully good.

936
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 4: I don't think he's changed it for the Pacers. If

937
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 4: I understanding the question correctly because they already have a

938
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 4: point guard.

939
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 5: Right, But the enticing nature of what the fifth overall

940
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 5: pick would mean to other NBA teams, if not your own.

941
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 4: Oh, I didn't think to think about that part of it. Yeah.

942
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 5: And again, maybe we're not talking about a Cuff at five.

943
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 5: Maybe we're talking about him three. Yeah, and that puts

944
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 5: Boozer or Wilson there at five. I think when this

945
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 5: conversation happened, when was the Zubats trade Right around February right, Oh,

946
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 5: probably last time the Pacers won. We talked about it

947
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 5: in a four person draft, I think Darius Acuff and

948
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 5: to some people, Kingston Fludbing. It's like, I think there

949
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 5: are other people out there that feel like this draft

950
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 5: is much more than the top four. Now, again to

951
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 5: James's point, do you need that direct player necessarily? No,

952
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 5: But that doesn't mean that the pick itself isn't worth something.

953
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 6: To the rest of the league.

954
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 4: He had to think about that part of it.

955
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 5: And then that comes back to the trade value aspect

956
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 5: to the fifth overall pick in this year's draft is

957
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 5: different than what it would look like in another draft.

958
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 4: So Kevin Bowing and Kevin Pritchard boy, you all think

959
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 4: of every scenario, it's to Kevin's Yeavin square.

960
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 5: Again, I'll go back to why I said yesterday, James,

961
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 5: how many NBA franchise out there do you think would

962
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 5: rather have Darius A Cuff than Tyrs Halliburn off of

963
00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 5: Torny Keileyes?

964
00:43:59,360 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 6: Are there any?

965
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 4: There are some there have to be signed.

966
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 6: There are some that are in the fold rebuild mode.

967
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 5: That's say, give me the nineteen year old versus the

968
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 5: twenty six, twenty seven year old off the Achilles. And

969
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 5: again that's not every team and that shouldn't be the

970
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 5: Pacers thought. But I think that that just reiterates to

971
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 5: me the value of what that PI can mean.

972
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: All right, let's chuck it down as we've been discussing

973
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: the Innana Pacers snap day franchise record sixteen game losing streak.

974
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: Last night, they went it in Orlando one twenty eight,

975
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: one twenty six, holding on. They had a one twenty eight,

976
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: one to twenty two lead with a little over three

977
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: minutes to go, and then Polo Bancaro scored the last

978
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: four points for Orlando. Was trying to tie it up

979
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: at the end, he was blocked from behind by Pascal

980
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: Siakam in fronted there by Jay Huff. Pacers hold on,

981
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: they win it their sixteen and fifty six. Pascal Siakam again,

982
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: gotta shout this guy out thirty seven and six. But man,

983
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: we talk about hanging on for dear life. How good

984
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: was this guy last night?

985
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 10: Both teams have two timeouts remaining. Nemhart brings it into

986
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,720
Speaker 10: the fore court. He's on the right side of the floor,

987
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 10: up top to sea. Siakam right in, penetrates the arc

988
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 10: back to the goal, flips it out to nem Art.

989
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 7: Mam.

990
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 10: Mart moves it to the left side line of three

991
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 10: on the way.

992
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: And that is much needed. That was the last points

993
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: scored for the Indiana Pacers. James a three ball a

994
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: little over three minutes to go, and they held on

995
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: to get the win. But look at this line. This

996
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: is I said this in the last hour very Tyreese Holiburton.

997
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: Line for Andrew Nemhart last night thirteen points, seven rebounds,

998
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 1: fourteen assists. Man, he played good basketball last night. He

999
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: was joined Pascal Siakam at thirty seven and six rebounds.

1000
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: Jeris Walker read twenty points. Aaron Neismith that had nineteen

1001
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 1: and he kept them going for a while. Aaron Nesmith

1002
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: was kind of a one ment offensive show for a

1003
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: few minutes there.

1004
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 5: I thought, jers Walker, you know again with that starting unit.

1005
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 5: He had another nice night. But yeah, down the stretch

1006
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 5: you're big three. Nemhard that three of course. Ne Smith

1007
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 5: just a tenacious, typical Aaron Nesmith off. It's a rebound

1008
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 5: and then Siakam, you know, helping that top and shout

1009
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 5: out to Jay Huffy and the statuet that should go

1010
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 5: down half block for Jay Huff on that last play

1011
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 5: because I thought him getting to the rim made Paula

1012
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 5: bon Caroll have to adjust and that's where Siakom cleaned it.

1013
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 1: Up, all right, So they get that win. Now they

1014
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: return home to the Fieldhouse tomorrow night. They will host

1015
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: the Lakers seven pm Tips six thirty year time right

1016
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: here on ninety three five and one oh seven to

1017
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: five to the fan. Also for due getting ready for

1018
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: the Sweet sixteen matchup against the Texas Longhorns that'll be

1019
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: Thursday in San Jose seven to ten pm. Boilers are

1020
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: in the Sweet sixteen seven in the last nine years.

1021
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: Matt Painter got his five hundredth career victory in the

1022
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: win last Sunday, twelve away from Gene Katie's all time

1023
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: school record and so that'll probably be broken next year.

1024
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: Also the IHSAA, it's championship time Mount Vernon and four

1025
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 1: A takes on Crown Point Player of the Year Luke

1026
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 1: Erdle from Mount Vernon on his way to Purdue. The

1027
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: six to three lefty talks about another shot at Crown Point.

1028
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 11: You know, it'll be a great opportunity to kind of

1029
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 11: avenge that loss. And we were able to avenge our

1030
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 11: Pike loss, so you know, getting an opportunity to another

1031
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 11: crack at them would just be exciting.

1032
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 1: Been a lefty point guard for Matt Painter next year,

1033
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: that'd be kind of fun to watch.

1034
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 5: Well, we had a lefty shoot it last night at

1035
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 5: the small ball event at Parks Place.

1036
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 6: There's just something beautiful about watching the left.

1037
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 5: Even in the even in a little small ball era

1038
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 5: where you know me, it's all about volume, it's about reps.

1039
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 5: It ain't about shooting ninety five percent. It's about getting

1040
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 5: balls up at the hoop, getting shots up. People are

1041
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 5: looking at across side.

1042
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 6: I'm like, I need two balls in each hand.

1043
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I need balls in hands and these people are

1044
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 5: looking at me across.

1045
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 6: I'm like, guys, it's about volume and one of our

1046
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 6: best shooter. Shout out Kim. She was outstanding.

1047
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 5: Fisher's mother out there, her kids were just going nuts

1048
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,479
Speaker 5: for out there. Jeff had a great performance, but Luke

1049
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 5: was our winter last night.

1050
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 6: I like it a thousand bucks and then you boot.

1051
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: I went Luke.

1052
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 6: I felt like I was cha for hereng goodie again.

1053
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: People were like trying to buy Kevin another beer when

1054
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: he said, Luke, what are you talking about? Right? Luke?

1055
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: All right? Uh? Women Daniels last night, Oh big time

1056
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 1: women's college basketball last night an CUAA turn Notre Dame

1057
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: Kevin a winner over Ohio State, the third seed eighty

1058
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: three seventy three. How did I dog go? Not only

1059
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: did she have twenty six points and thirteen rebounds, but

1060
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: how many steals in this NCAA tournament game against a

1061
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: three seed? Yeah?

1062
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 6: Eight steals for her?

1063
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:19,720
Speaker 5: She is an absolute theft thirteen rebounds at five foot six.

1064
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,479
Speaker 5: I think it's probably worth mentioning. So Notre Dame women

1065
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 5: advanced to the sweet sixteen for the fifth straight year,

1066
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 5: and somewhere up there, Lou Holtz yelling down at Ryan

1067
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 5: Day you see that Ryan Day, how that tastes?

1068
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 6: Come on, Lou.

1069
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: Lou, I'd say, poor Ryan Day, but I don't feel

1070
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: bad for him at all.

1071
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 4: Man when he was sorry, How old was Lou Holts

1072
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 4: when that happened? Was he beven with like a ninety

1073
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 4: year old?

1074
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 6: He was griefing with a man two years later? Rest

1075
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:48,919
Speaker 6: in peace?

1076
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 4: Can you imagine?

1077
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 6: No, there's nothing nothing better than college football coaches.

1078
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 4: You're right, all right? Back to women's cousage.

1079
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 6: Ryan Day dies Beard, Absolutely he has. It's like jet black.

1080
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 6: Come on now, I mean that thing is just yes,

1081
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 6: that is jet black. Perfect way to describe.

1082
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. Other women's college basketball news tonight, we've got a

1083
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Speaker 1: championship on the line and the Naia the Marion women.

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Speaker 1: They are thirty four and two. They'll be taking on

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00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: Dort University in Iowa in Sioux City, Iowa. But listen

1086
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: to this, this is not going to be easy. You

1087
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: talk about a wagon. This Dort team is making their

1088
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: fourth appearance in the championship game in the last five years,

1089
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 1: their third consecutive. They are also thirty four and two

1090
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: on the season. So Marian gets this one done tonight. Man,

1091
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: that is a big time, big time accomplishment either way.

1092
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: But they'll be taking on an Naia power tonight, so

1093
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: good luck to them as we hope for the best

1094
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: there in the NFL, Jackson Smith and Jigba is now

1095
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: the highest wide receiver, highest paid wide receiver in NFL history.

1096
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 1: That man earned it. Have you seen him the last

1097
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 1: two years, especially this last season James.

1098
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, had the great season at the great time, you know,

1099
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 4: and they won the Super Bowl. You get paid, Hey,

1100
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 4: one more you want out of life right now if

1101
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 4: you're Jackson?

1102
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: All right. Pete crow arm Strong in the Cubs closing

1103
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: in on a contract extension for him. He's not even

1104
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: twenty four yet, all right. Last year coming off a

1105
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: gold Glove season, just doing all kinds of things out there.

1106
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 1: He's fun to watch in the outfield, that's for sure.

1107
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods returns to swing a golf club tonight in competition.

1108
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: It's the Indoor Golf League. Some people like it, some

1109
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: people don't. TG all they call it is the championship

1110
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: match for his Jupiter team. But it's just nice to

1111
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: see Tiger Woods feeling good enough to go swing the

1112
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: golf club in a competitive arena.

1113
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 6: Two weeks till the Masters got a.

1114
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: Couple of weeks to go. We'll see how it goes.

1115
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: Maybe tonight's a little let's see how I feel tomorrow morning.

1116
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 6: Do not tease me, Jeff Record, do not.

1117
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: All right, we'll look forward to that.

1118
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 5: Anything else you guys want to throw in, shout out

1119
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 5: Greg McDermott hanging it up yesterday, the longtime coach over

1120
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 5: there at Creighton. You know, I think back a few

1121
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 5: years ago, you guys remember when San Diego State made

1122
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 5: their run to the title game. Creighton almost beat them

1123
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 5: in the Elite eight, really s beat them in the

1124
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 5: Elite eight there. That's kind of a what what could

1125
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 5: have been for a guy that you know, really had

1126
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 5: a very impressive run at Creighton there for a decade

1127
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 5: and a half. Ironically, the coach that will take over

1128
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 5: for him is Alan Huss. We had Alan on the

1129
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 5: show last year when he was the head coach at

1130
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 5: High Point that was produced opening round opponent. Last season.

1131
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,439
Speaker 5: Alan left there to go to Creighton. The thought there

1132
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 5: is long time Greg McDermott assistant kind of coaching waiting.

1133
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 5: So yeah, Darren de Free's connection of course with all

1134
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 5: of this involved, but we will have a couple of

1135
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 5: new opening several new openings right Providence in the Big East,

1136
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 5: Butler in the Big East, Creighton in the Big East.

1137
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 5: So and now we await the white smoke there from

1138
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 5: Hicklefield House here coming up.

1139
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 6: It sounds like later this week, all.

1140
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: Right, coming up in a moment, we will have one

1141
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 1: of the strangest stories I've seen in a long, long time.

1142
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 1: You might even appreciate this one, Caleb, this is this

1143
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: is a weird one. We'll do all of that as

1144
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: we continue next coming up at nine o'clock. CJ. Moore

1145
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: from the Athletic College Basketball writer Bruce Webber will close

1146
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: out the show at nine forty five and the Big

1147
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: Ten Network, and we've got more for you is we

1148
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: continue in ninety three, five and seven five the fan.

1149
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 6: I need two balls in each hand.

1150
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I need balls in hands.

1151
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 6: Cinderella is dead in this tournament.

1152
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: I was really hoping that I had Akron get into

1153
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: sweet sixteen. I was hoping again, Am I wrong?

1154
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 4: I mean wrong?

1155
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 6: The term of Jeff and Big Ten teams like they're Cinderella. Yeah,

1156
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 6: I mean come on.

1157
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: Well, no, I was just asking a question, are there.

1158
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 5: Any Cinderella Cinderella's You've answered the question, Dunk City, Cinderella's

1159
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 5: sister Sister Jean and Loyola, it's George Mason, it's you know.

1160
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 5: That to me is Cinderella, SEC and Big ten schools.

1161
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 6: He's going to barf. Try to imagine there's Cinderella.

1162
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: I mean, we had we had some potential going in

1163
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 1: the second round. You had, you had, We talked about Akron,

1164
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: High Point, Saint Louis, But no longer there. We'll ask

1165
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: our next guest. CJ. Moore writes for The Athletic College

1166
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,879
Speaker 1: basketball is a specialty. CJ. We can't consider number nine

1167
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: seeded Iowa a Cinderella, can we?

1168
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 11: No?

1169
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 7: I don't. I don't think any high major team can

1170
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 7: be label of Cinderella. Definitely. I guess an underdog to

1171
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 7: get there.

1172
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 8: And you know, you do have guys that in the

1173
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 8: Star as you play Division two, a bunch of former

1174
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 8: men major players on the rosters. So if you really

1175
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 8: wanted to squint and you know, trying to pretend that

1176
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 8: Iowa is, I guess you could.

1177
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 7: But I think Cinderella is dead.

1178
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 4: CJ. Thanks for joining us. James Boyd here and I

1179
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 4: have to say one I agree with your Cinderella assessment.

1180
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 4: I don't know if you can really pay for the

1181
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 4: glass slipper these days, like is that really counted? Cinderella.

1182
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 4: But as far as Purdue goes, which is what been

1183
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 4: a big topic here in our airwaves, you had a

1184
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 4: great story the other day or last week, and it's

1185
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 4: called inside the Mind of Bradensmith's college basketball as new

1186
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 4: assist King sat down with him and went through some

1187
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 4: of his best assists. So can you take us behind

1188
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 4: the scenes of just how that story came together? Because

1189
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 4: I thought it was great and very fitting for what

1190
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 4: we saw this past weekend.

1191
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was an idea of mine early in the

1192
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 8: season that you know, knew he was going to obviously

1193
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 8: were most likely break the assist record or come close

1194
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 8: to it, and was trying to think of a creative

1195
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 8: way to kind of tell his story because you know,

1196
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 8: I think anyone who's ever written about him has told

1197
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 8: the oh, super underrecruited. You know, Purdue didn't even my

1198
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 8: painter never even intended in any of his au games,

1199
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 8: high school games, YadA, YadA, YadA. So I wanted to

1200
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 8: come up with some kind of way to tell his

1201
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 8: story and appreciate his ability to make amazing passes and

1202
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 8: so I came up with the idea.

1203
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:51,800
Speaker 7: I'll watch all of his assists.

1204
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 8: I'll come up with some of maybe not necessarily all

1205
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 8: his best ones, but I thought I tried to pick

1206
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 8: something that could kind of tell a story, and so

1207
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,760
Speaker 8: I showed him I think I at first I pulled

1208
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 8: like maybe fifty and then I got it down to

1209
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 8: probably like fifteen eighteen something like that. And so we

1210
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 8: went through and you know, just kind of, hey, what

1211
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:18,280
Speaker 8: were you seeing here? You know, when you started throwing

1212
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 8: passes like this? How do you start throwing on?

1213
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 11: That?

1214
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 8: Was kind of questions and had a really really fun discussion.

1215
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 8: He was really into it. You know, he would remember

1216
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 8: every single one, so it was it was a fun extress.

1217
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,720
Speaker 8: That probably my fun favorite story to report out this summer.

1218
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 8: Just just two guys talking talking ball over over filmed,

1219
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 8: So it was good stuff.

1220
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 6: CGS a great read.

1221
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 5: I a Caleb first corner three is not one that

1222
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 5: I would have ever remembered, let alone thought he would

1223
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 5: have had there. But it was fun kind of hearing

1224
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 5: him dissect those plays. I had to laugh for our

1225
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 5: audience that you know, hasn't had a chance to read

1226
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 5: it yet. Could you share the player that I believe

1227
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 5: Bratin Smith said what he thought was the most difficult

1228
00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 5: to pass to in his Purdue.

1229
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 7: Career, Zach Edie the biggest target.

1230
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 5: And and and the reason beyond that that maybe not

1231
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 5: necessarily Zach Edie's hands. And I thought Matt Paynter had

1232
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 5: a great point of advice for Braden Smith and throwing

1233
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 5: the ball to Zach Edy.

1234
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, he So the reason for it is because

1235
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,919
Speaker 8: Braiden has always played and pick and roll. He'd never

1236
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 8: really you know, he played with quote unquote big guys,

1237
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 8: but they were like six four sixty five.

1238
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 7: Six six when he was in high school.

1239
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 8: He was saying, so he never played with like a

1240
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 8: true big and he was, you know, never really thrown

1241
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 8: the ball into a post. And he said, you know,

1242
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 8: I probably would have broken the record a little earlier

1243
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,399
Speaker 8: if I had just thrown the ball in the post

1244
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 8: the first few games in my college career. But it

1245
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 8: took him a little while to get there. And Painter's

1246
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 8: advice to him was, hey, just throwing it at his forehead.

1247
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 8: He's going to catch it if you keep throwing it there.

1248
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. C. D.

1249
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 6: Moore from the Athletic with us here on the payloss

1250
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 6: Lackers hotline. The Brad Smith piece is great.

1251
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 5: I also really enjoyed the Darren Peterson deep dive from

1252
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 5: a few weeks back. And again we're in Pacer country

1253
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 5: and if I remember correctly, I think we had you

1254
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 5: on a couple of years ago. You did, you know,

1255
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 5: a deep dive kind on Tyrese Haliburton and shed some

1256
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 5: light on you know, his background. Obviously, the Peterson thing

1257
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 5: is very well documented. If an NBA I guess, if

1258
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 5: you could put yourself in an NBA front office, what

1259
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 5: do you think would be the biggest question you would

1260
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 5: have when it comes to the Darren Peterson situation.

1261
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 6: For lack of a better term.

1262
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 8: I would just want to dive fully into his medicals

1263
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 8: and get a really really good feel for where he is.

1264
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 8: And if you know this, the cramping stuff is something

1265
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 8: that will continue to maybe hot him throughout his career.

1266
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 8: I think he's pasted it, but I also think the

1267
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 8: explosion is not quite there, and you know it's probably

1268
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 8: going to be good for him to maybe take a

1269
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 8: little break and then like super you know, dive back

1270
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 8: into training and you know, you hope by the time

1271
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 8: that draft prep gets here would worked out some stuff

1272
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 8: that that you start to see some of that explosion

1273
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 8: back and if that's the case, then you know, I'm

1274
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,479
Speaker 8: very interested in him as one of the top takes

1275
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 8: in the NBA draft.

1276
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: Talking to C. J. Moore from The Athletic about college basketball,

1277
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: got the Sweet sixteen coming up at this point in time,

1278
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: and we've talked about for Matt Painter, seven Sweet sixteens

1279
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: in nine years, and of course they went to a

1280
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: championship game a couple of years ago, but prior to

1281
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: to really the Carson Edwards run, the Sweet sixteen has

1282
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 1: kind of been a stopping point for Purdue. Has this

1283
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: group of seniors maybe moved past that? You do you

1284
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about their chances this week?

1285
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 7: Yeah? I think that, you know, at least in the

1286
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 7: in the first game.

1287
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 8: Now, now Arizona is going to be another another beast

1288
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 8: if that happens in the in the lead eight. But

1289
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 8: I think preudly one thing that really impressed me sitting

1290
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 8: behind their bench this weekend, and I'll have a story

1291
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 8: coming out tomorrow on the seniors, and you know how

1292
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 8: rare it is for three guys to say at one

1293
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 8: school and this era and kind of what that has

1294
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 8: done for the team. But one thing that stood out

1295
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 8: to me is they just kind of figured like there

1296
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 8: was some a little bit of tension in that Miami game,

1297
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 8: like Miami was.

1298
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 7: Giving him a real push.

1299
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 8: You know, they were trailing in the first half, it

1300
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 8: was close with about ten minutes left, but I thought

1301
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 8: there was a lot of communication just kind of figuring

1302
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 8: it out and no real panic.

1303
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 7: And that's what what impressed me.

1304
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 8: Like that, like Braden Smith told me that, you know,

1305
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 8: I have a quote that in the story Tomorrow of

1306
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 8: like we've been in every single situation you can ever imagine,

1307
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 8: and and that was that was kind of evident to me,

1308
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 8: like he wasn't having his best game, but I thought

1309
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 8: down the stretch he was just picking apart in middle

1310
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 8: ball screens.

1311
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 7: So you know, I think I.

1312
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 8: Think that they are a mature group who understands who

1313
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 8: they are. And you know, when and if they lose

1314
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 8: in this tournament, it's not going to be because they're

1315
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 8: not prepared or not experienced enough for having been through

1316
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 8: certain situations. This is going to be because you know,

1317
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 8: they probably go up against team is Elite.

1318
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 4: CJ last one and I'll let you go. I was

1319
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 4: watching a TikTok yesterday of Jimmer Ferdett, his wife and

1320
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 4: their young son. He was they were putting posters up

1321
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 4: in the sun's room and he points one of them

1322
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 4: and saying, oh, that's dad, Like he was really good.

1323
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 4: He made that shot. And they went to the sweet

1324
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 4: sixteen and he looks like he's maybe five, and she's

1325
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 4: like yeah, And so I can see his little college

1326
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 4: basketball fandom starting out. But for you, what is it

1327
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 4: about this sport that drew you in and then captch

1328
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 4: you all these years?

1329
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 8: I mean ever since I was about five years old,

1330
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 8: I've been watching I think every college basketball game I

1331
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 8: could watch. I love to play the game, and I

1332
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 8: still I'm forty one, I still play. So you know,

1333
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 8: everything about basketball just is I think it's the best

1334
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 8: sport in the world. And I grew up in Kansas City.

1335
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 8: My mom went to Kansas so down the road from

1336
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 8: you know, one of the most historic programs and college

1337
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 8: basketball history. So you walk in that building and similar

1338
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 8: to MACKI like, there's there's a different kind of you know,

1339
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 8: you can feel the history just as you walk inside.

1340
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 8: So it was it was pretty hard for me not

1341
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 8: to just be obsessed with college basketball from a young age, CJ.

1342
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 1: Always good to talk to you. Very important question of

1343
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 1: the way out though, what's your what's your go to

1344
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: road trip snack? You gotta you're you're hungry, you're jones

1345
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 1: and for something you go into the convenience store, you

1346
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: gass up? What are you grab it?

1347
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 7: Dude?

1348
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 8: I'm not a huge snack guy, but my wife makes

1349
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 8: peanut butter balls. If I got some of those in

1350
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 8: my backpack, going to those some far.

1351
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 1: More disciplined than the rest of us, I'm I'm very disappointed.

1352
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 7: CJ.

1353
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 8: Hey, I gotta keep I gotta keep pooping, so I

1354
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 8: gotta keep the body in good shape.

1355
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 1: It's good stuff. Thanks for joining us, buddy, appreciate it.

1356
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 7: Thanks, thanks you taking there is.

1357
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 1: Great, great read, and it's That's the one thing I

1358
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 1: love about my Athletic subscription. It's the only place you

1359
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 1: have left anymore where you get these nice, long, deep

1360
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: dives that are the kind of long form pieces that

1361
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 1: I grew up with. You just don't see a lot

1362
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 1: of them anymore, James, I like it. They give you

1363
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: guys freedom to do that every.

1364
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:09,439
Speaker 6: Once in a while.

1365
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 5: Well, if I could, James braggs on himself enough. The

1366
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 5: fact that you know in a and this sounds a

1367
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 5: little media nerdy, but James, you could probably relate to this,

1368
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 5: the fact that he was able to sit down with

1369
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 5: Braden Smith and go over like actual film. Yeah, that

1370
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 5: does not happen very much on the college level. Like

1371
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 5: you know how many times Darren Peterson spoke to the

1372
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 5: media this year. Yeah, you know it just college athletics

1373
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 5: is kind of weird, how much you know, there is

1374
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 5: a level of control, especially nil era, which can get

1375
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 5: don't want to open up a whole new can of

1376
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 5: worms there, And I would say predude honestly grants a

1377
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 5: ton of access. But still that's that's unbelievable access that

1378
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 5: CJ was able to get. And I thought it was

1379
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 5: a brilliant read, and honestly it was just a glimpse

1380
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 5: into an unbelievable quarterback mind at the point guard position.

1381
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 5: I mean, his recall and his thought process and breaking

1382
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 5: down some plays was just a really, really fun read.

1383
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 6: So I nerd it out over big time.

1384
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm shot out and for still hooping at forty

1385
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 4: one out that's me.

1386
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 5: I thought you were giving him the Final Four invite.

1387
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 5: I mean, guys got to have a little Sunday. Who

1388
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 5: session true.

1389
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what, that might actually be a real

1390
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 4: conversation to be had.

1391
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 1: All right, let's check the Payless Slickers hotline right now,

1392
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 1: and there's our guy, Bruce Weber from Big Ten Network,

1393
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 1: a former college basketball coach, joining us now on the

1394
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 1: Paylesslockers hotline. Coach, thanks so much for being here. Man,

1395
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 1: oh man, you look up and down this Sweet sixteen.

1396
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 1: Everybody can play some basketball here. We talked about this

1397
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 1: with CJ. Moore. Cinderella is dead.

1398
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I guess it's the bad part, you know,

1399
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 2: and some of the complaints, the changes with NIL and

1400
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 2: the portal, you know, the mid majors Cinderella team, like

1401
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 2: my SAU team years ago, getting to the Sweet sixteen.

1402
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's gonna happen again. We'll have

1403
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 2: to see. But we still had some great games, you know,

1404
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 2: some of the buzzer beaters that I enjoyed, and more

1405
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 2: than anything, the Big Ten had unbelievable success.

1406
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 6: Coach. I was always thank you for the time.

1407
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 1: I wanted to go back.

1408
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 6: I actually wanted to ask you about some of the

1409
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 6: s IU era.

1410
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 5: But let's actually go back to your days at Purdue

1411
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 5: and We just saw a win number five hundred from

1412
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 5: one of your former players in on the sidelines there

1413
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 5: at Purdue with Matt Painter.

1414
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 6: He has spoken before.

1415
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:31,919
Speaker 5: You know, growing up, I think he was with Pat Knight,

1416
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:35,439
Speaker 5: AAU teammates. Like he grew up more of an IU fan.

1417
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 5: I know, I'm asking you to dial it back a

1418
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 5: little bit, but what do you remember about the recruitment

1419
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 5: of Matt Painter.

1420
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 2: Well, it is true he was an indie of a fan,

1421
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 2: and he was good friends with Pat and stayed at

1422
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 2: coach at Coach Knight's house. But I remember going to

1423
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 2: his home with Coach Katie and in his bedroom it

1424
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 2: was all pictures of value and Coach said, what do

1425
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 2: we do here? So but it was they were not

1426
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 2: recruiting them and they had already signed some guys and

1427
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 2: stuff and then ended up. You know, you think about

1428
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 2: how storylines. You know, Matt comes to Purdue, he ends

1429
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 2: up with me at SIU and as my assistant, goes

1430
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 2: back to Purdue and and just unbelievable success and uh,

1431
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 2: you know, just really happy for him and proud of

1432
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 2: him and what he's done and how he sustained it

1433
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 2: at Purdue, and you know it wasn't always easy at

1434
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 2: at times, but then his run as of late has

1435
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 2: been been really really special and for me too.

1436
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 1: I love how he keeps.

1437
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 7: Former players involved, the former.

1438
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 2: Coaches and especially coach Katie, you know, and I think that's.

1439
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 7: Part of it, part of his success.

1440
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 2: And we had the he has a reunion every summer,

1441
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 2: and it was my first time I got not every

1442
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 2: summer but every couple of years, but it was the

1443
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 2: first time I got to come back that My wife

1444
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 2: and I went back this past summer and there were

1445
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 2: over eighty players, one back to nineteen fifty six. There

1446
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,439
Speaker 2: were just I can't tell you how many managers were there,

1447
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 2: former staff and there's just a special pride and you know,

1448
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 2: so it's really cool that Matt's done that. And then

1449
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:20,439
Speaker 2: obviously just his success and the run he's had.

1450
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 7: And again they had some ups.

1451
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 2: And downs this year, but man, they're playing good basketball

1452
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 2: right now.

1453
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 5: You bring up your guys day he's at SIU. If

1454
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 5: I'm not mistaken, I think that was your first head

1455
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 5: coaching gig. Why did you want to hire him on

1456
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 5: your staff there?

1457
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 2: Well, Matt, actually, you know, as a player, he wasn't

1458
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 2: most talented, and I mean he'll tell you that. But

1459
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 2: he understood the game. He learned the game, he got better,

1460
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 2: and he was a really good point guard as a senior.

1461
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 2: I would say it helps to have big Dog with you.

1462
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 2: And I just remember he would say to Glenn, hey man,

1463
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 2: you don't have to shoot the first you touch.

1464
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 7: It, I'll get back.

1465
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 1: I'll get it touch.

1466
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,439
Speaker 2: You know, I'm smart enough. We want to win the game.

1467
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 2: And you know, so he he knew the he knew

1468
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 2: the game. He loved the game. We always joked at

1469
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 2: that time recruiting was so different. We got these mailers

1470
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 2: with you know, the top recruits, Hoop Scoop and all

1471
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 2: this stuff, and that would come in and he would

1472
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 2: take my Hoopscoop stuff and I coach would say, well,

1473
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 2: who's the you know, who's this kid. I'd go back.

1474
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 2: I couldn't find my Hoopscoop magazine to you know, look

1475
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 2: up a player, and that would have to I'd have

1476
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 2: to figure out where he put it. So he loved basketball.

1477
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 2: He studies, studies it. He loves all sports and you know,

1478
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 2: trivia stuff. And but you just knew he was going

1479
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:46,439
Speaker 2: to be a coach. There's certain guys and right away

1480
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 2: he went to Washington, to Washington, Pennsylvania, Washington, Jefferson with

1481
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 2: Tom Ryder, one of our other former assistants, did the

1482
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 2: forklift at the Coke company in the morning and coached

1483
01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 2: in the afternoon, and then went to Eastern Illinois, took

1484
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 2: my brother spot and then when you know, we got

1485
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 2: the When I got the SAU job, he was one

1486
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 2: of the first people I called to join us, and obviously,

1487
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 2: you know, it was a good decision for me and

1488
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 2: for him and and just again just we had a

1489
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:20,599
Speaker 2: pretty good run at SAU. When you talk about the

1490
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 2: Cinderellas and the mid majors, I think it was five

1491
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,679
Speaker 2: out of six years we had an at large bid

1492
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 2: when we were at SAU in the Valley and and

1493
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 2: and a couple of sweet sixteens. I had one, Chris

1494
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 2: Lowry had one in that run. And I'm not sure

1495
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 2: we're going to see that ever again.

1496
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,759
Speaker 4: Bruce, You've been around a lot of great point guards

1497
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 4: throughout your career, whether you were coaching him or you know,

1498
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 4: calling games on television. The one that comes to mind

1499
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 4: for me is Darren Williams, because being the Illinois kid

1500
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 4: that was boy a special player in Deep Brown as well,

1501
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 4: but when you look at Brydon Smith and what he's

1502
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:57,440
Speaker 4: done it Purdue, the all time leader in NCAA assists.

1503
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:00,680
Speaker 4: What comes to mind when that is a part of

1504
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 4: his resume.

1505
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 2: Well, just I've watched him since the beginning. I went

1506
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 2: to early practices. I did not get to see him

1507
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 2: when recruiting. It was the COVID year and and he

1508
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 2: just didn't get a chance. But I talked to Matt

1509
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 2: along the way, you know, and he kept saying, he's

1510
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 2: you know, he's he's got it. I think he's really good.

1511
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 2: You know, he has that good feel and there's no doubt.

1512
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 2: You could see right away. I went to practice that

1513
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 2: that first summer before his freshman year, and I was like,

1514
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,600
Speaker 2: how can this kid not been recruited higher? And he

1515
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 2: just had a great feel. I did his first game

1516
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,639
Speaker 2: when I that was my first game with Big ten Network,

1517
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 2: and you know, you you could just you had a sense, Hey,

1518
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 2: this guy. You didn't know he you're gonna beat Danny early,

1519
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 2: but you knew he knew how to play.

1520
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 7: Passing is a lost art.

1521
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 2: And and you know you bring up Darren Williams that

1522
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 2: he is for me, the best passer eye coach he

1523
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 2: had an unbelievable feel of the game. He could see things,

1524
01:09:57,200 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 2: he learned the game, he studied the game, and I

1525
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 2: and Brad's been the same way. He's just improved. It

1526
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 2: went from freshman year making that I always say, there's

1527
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,640
Speaker 2: the easy pass, then there's the harder pass, and then

1528
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 2: there's the one no one sees pass. And and he's

1529
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:16,639
Speaker 2: got to that point that other people don't see things

1530
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 2: that that he can see it and makes that read.

1531
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 2: And it ain't had pretty good players because you don't

1532
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 2: get an assist unless somebody else makes the basket. But

1533
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 2: and that's helped along the way. But that's what I

1534
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 2: kept saying at the Big Ten Tournament that I want

1535
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 2: Purdue to keep winning because I want him to break

1536
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:37,639
Speaker 2: that record. And I just think it's really really cool,

1537
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 2: and it's it's up. It's Matt and his system too

1538
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 2: that has put him in this in this place to

1539
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 2: be able to break this record, and you know it

1540
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 2: gives with him, it gives Purdue always a chance to

1541
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 2: win games.

1542
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 1: Coach, switching things up just a little bit, Butler's got

1543
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 1: an opening for head coach right now? What kind of

1544
01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 1: coach should Butler be looking at right now what are

1545
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 1: the qualifications? What do they need?

1546
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 7: You know, it's interesting.

1547
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 2: I had hope.

1548
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 7: I like that. I you know, I.

1549
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 2: Hoped he would have a little more success. I know

1550
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 2: he'd you know, obviously he would have too and you

1551
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 2: know he's an accomplished coach and what he did, uh,

1552
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 2: you know, along his career. But you know, I guess

1553
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:26,520
Speaker 2: it's somebody that it's that. I think evaluating talent.

1554
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 7: Is so so important. Now.

1555
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 2: I know you're saying, hey, I got we got to

1556
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 2: have the money. You got to have the money, but

1557
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 2: you also got to make the right decisions. And a

1558
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 2: guy that understands the game can find the guy that's

1559
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 2: who's going to win at some of these these you know,

1560
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 2: if you don't have the highest major in the highest

1561
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 2: you know, recruiting budget or whatever it is now nil budget.

1562
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 2: I'm not sure why they call it nil because no

1563
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 2: one doesn't name it his likeness anymore, just give them money.

1564
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 2: So but it you know, I think that's so important,

1565
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 2: and I think it's something that's done a great job

1566
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 2: of evaluating talent and finding the guy that not only

1567
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 2: you know has potential, but he loves the game, he's competitive,

1568
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 2: h he wants to be at your program. And I

1569
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 2: think that's that's important both in the portal and coming

1570
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 2: kids coming out of high school. And I think even

1571
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:24,599
Speaker 2: more in the portal. Now have they won, have they

1572
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 2: been coached, have they been held accountable? You know, you know,

1573
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 2: I think all those things. It's not just who has stats,

1574
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 2: you know. I think that's where some guys make mistakes

1575
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 2: and they just you know, they go by stats, and

1576
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 2: that's not you got to you got to evaluate him.

1577
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 2: So I think that's really important for somebody that is

1578
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 2: going to you know, find get that position and get

1579
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 2: them in the top of the top of the Big East.

1580
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 6: Again, well, coach, thank you. We always appreciate your insight.

1581
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:56,639
Speaker 5: We've hadical people reach out they didn't really fully understand

1582
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 5: maybe your history with Matt Att Painters, So thank you

1583
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 5: for sharing that, and certainly we'll be watching for your

1584
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,639
Speaker 5: insights here as we get closer to ending next week.

1585
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:08,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, it should be fun, great, you know, I'm really.

1586
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 7: Looking for it.

1587
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 2: Like I said, six Big Ten teams in there watching

1588
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:14,639
Speaker 2: Purdue cheering for them.

1589
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 7: You know that.

1590
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 2: I thought that the Nebraska Vanderbilt game was one of

1591
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 2: the coolest games I've ever you know, just for them,

1592
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 2: to make you know, with the fans there, and to

1593
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 2: get those couple of plays down the stretch and then

1594
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 2: to see the ball bounce.

1595
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,600
Speaker 1: In the hoop, and I mean, it's got to love it.

1596
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 7: My wife and I.

1597
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 2: Were we jumped out of the bed because we really,

1598
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:39,679
Speaker 2: you know, we know Fred Hoiberg and his family and

1599
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 2: we were excited for them. So a lot of great

1600
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:45,440
Speaker 2: stories in Michigan obviously been unbelievable.

1601
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, We appreciate that. On that note,

1602
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 1: we will say goodbye, see you to make coach