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Speaker 1: And Grand Rising, family, and thanks for starting your work

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Speaker 1: week with us again. Later, former vice presidential candidate doctor

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Speaker 1: Malina Abdullah will analyze the effects of the government shutdown

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Speaker 1: and also provide critical insights into the Justice Department's investigation

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Speaker 1: of that Roague Black Lives Matter group. But before we

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Speaker 1: hear from doctor Abdullah, movie maker Chris Reiser will preview

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Speaker 1: his latest project. It's called Heavy Is the Crown This

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Speaker 1: lady's documentary. And to get a starting moment, Telly to

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Speaker 1: speak with political blog of Brandon. He'll check him up.

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Speaker 1: Get Kevin to open up the classroom doors for us

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Speaker 1: on this Monday morning, Grand Rising, Kevin, Hey.

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Speaker 2: Grand Rising, indeed, Colonel Nelson, Happy Monday.

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Speaker 3: How you feeling.

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Speaker 4: I'm still learning, Kevin, of course.

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Speaker 2: And of course that's a great position to maintain and

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Speaker 2: continue and it brings growth, of course. And today being

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Speaker 2: the tenth of November, and it was quite the Veterans

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Speaker 2: Day weekend, especially if you were looking at, you know,

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Speaker 2: any of the football games. The NFL actually honored all

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Speaker 2: of the veterans and showing different planes flying over, including

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Speaker 2: the official Veterans Day is tomorrow but you know, we

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Speaker 2: just kind of feel like getting out that camouflage outfit

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Speaker 2: that you've got in your closet.

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Speaker 3: There, Carl.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I am, I am sure, but it

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Speaker 2: just seems that everybody's got that camouflage stuff.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Being a former Navy I don't really get into the

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Speaker 2: camouflage stuff. I don't remember the Navy unless the Seals

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Speaker 2: might have had camouflage.

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Speaker 3: But nobody else like that.

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Speaker 2: Man, And so how are you feeling? I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: as as things continue with the shutdown.

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Speaker 1: And there's been some some headway made in a shutdown,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Brandon can explain it to us. I think

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Speaker 1: a group of Democrats broke rank and vote with the

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Speaker 1: Republicans in the Senate, and so they're close enough, so

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Speaker 1: it moves over to the House, and they think he'll

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Speaker 1: and Donald Trump says he'll sign it as soon as

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Speaker 1: he gets it.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Well, according to Political It says, the sixty

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Speaker 2: to forty vote to take the first step toward ending

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Speaker 2: the shut down came yesterday after enough Democrats agreed to

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Speaker 2: support a package that would fund multiple agencies and programs

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Speaker 2: for the full physical year and all others until January thirty,

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Speaker 1: And so, but the issue was Kevin the you know,

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Speaker 1: Healthcare Act. This was the stumbling block because and so

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Speaker 1: now it was a chance who won and who lose.

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Speaker 1: It seems like the Republicans were on the President because

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Speaker 1: the Democrats, most of them, were holding out to make

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Speaker 1: sure that the Healthcare Act was maintained. And they see

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Speaker 1: now they will discuss it, you know, you know, after

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Speaker 1: the bill is signed, they will discuss it. So we'll see.

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Speaker 2: And there's still additional steps before the Senate can pass

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Speaker 2: the funding deal. But the vote, like I said, sent

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Speaker 2: a strong signal that they're going to do something to

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Speaker 2: change all of this. And Senator Thunes that it remains

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Speaker 2: to be seen. That's how they finish everything. But let's

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Speaker 2: talk about that Commander's game man disappointing results forty four

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Speaker 2: You know, there was one where the brother was actually

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Speaker 2: Ammon rah Saint Brown in the helmet and blowout and

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Speaker 2: And you know, I just don't understand. I don't understand that.

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Speaker 2: You know, you're you're losing the game, So what now

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Speaker 2: you're gonna start a fight? Is that? That's high school

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Speaker 1: And you know, the resident commanders, especially to a radio one,

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Speaker 1: because of that loss. But yeah, you're right. And by

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Speaker 3: You know, he didn't want to talk about it.

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Speaker 1: But you know what Kevin speaking about that, he wants

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw something about that, and the NFL isn't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but those are before days before they sold

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Speaker 1: So if you look at any just any arena sporting

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Speaker 2: It's cheaper for a corporation to sponsor the field than

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Speaker 1: And that's not the issue that was baked in too,

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Speaker 2: Will they host the super Bowl even if they're not

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, it brings a lot of money to the area.

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Speaker 1: Oh icy, Yeah, well, Kevin, it's all about money.

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Speaker 2: And nothing's funny again. And then Land of Milton on

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Speaker 2: you it. Look, but finally before we go to uh, Brandon,

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Speaker 2: maybe we should bring Brandon and look, and the Trump

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Speaker 2: administration is ordering to immediately undo the full snap benefits

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Speaker 2: how to get food assistance to needy families without violating

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Speaker 2: the Supreme Court order or crossing the Trump administration. It's

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Speaker 1: But let's close out with with you know, because people

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Speaker 1: in Spain, Madrid, Spain, in the early game next week.

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Speaker 1: And the Ravens have coled cam forget our friends up

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Speaker 1: in Baltimore. Ravens beat the Broncos twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I saw that.

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Speaker 1: Twenty seven to nineteen. I'm sorry. You play the Cleveland

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Speaker 2: You're right, Yeah, I did see the raven They were

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Speaker 2: they were playing strong Man. They made a fantastic come back,

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Speaker 1: And they play in the late game again next week

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Speaker 1: let's bring in Brandon to talk about this snap benefit.

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Speaker 1: How does you know from the just the optics doesn't

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Speaker 1: just doesn't look right, Brandon grand Rising, welcome back.

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Speaker 5: Hey what's that Grand Rising? Good morning to both Kevin

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Speaker 5: Carr honest kept Car Show. Yeah, you talk about punching

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Speaker 5: pure frustration. Yes, uh it does. It does very little

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Speaker 5: And you know, more and more we're seeing these kinds

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Speaker 5: They don't want to see more situations like that. So

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Speaker 5: this fight is significant in many ways. It shows team frustration.

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Speaker 5: not winning. Sometimes you just want to fight to show

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Speaker 5: So it's hard to say, you know, to pull. It's

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Speaker 5: a violent sport and it requires kind of They just

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Speaker 5: you hear the violence. You can hear it on the field.

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Speaker 3: Bad as the game was. Yeah, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: So we will get to politics with Brandon. But Brandon,

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Speaker 1: But but Kevin had a question for you, Brandon, sal

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, in spite of the falling

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Speaker 5: So I Alwa saw some clips as it surrounded the fight.

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Speaker 5: Here's what happens at this time of the season. People

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Speaker 3: I think it's up to seven and three.

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Speaker 5: Now the Commanders are seven and three. Are you sure.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's works for that next contract.

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Speaker 4: That's what they're doing right now. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's a that's a very real thing.

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Speaker 5: You guys just said it's money and the money in

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Speaker 5: It's not just going for the super Bowl anymore. You're not.

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Speaker 5: give up. You know, a great quarterback, you know if

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Speaker 5: and you also learn that there are people across from

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Speaker 5: and you better not treat them. You've better not treat

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Speaker 5: them lightly. But you will be looking at a score,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, even at that age, right twenty five, at the

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Speaker 1: top of hell, let's get into politics, brand it. I

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Speaker 1: don't know where to start on this. Obviously, there's been

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Speaker 5: It is a move another move that I think is

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Speaker 11: Now.

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Speaker 5: What they did was they offered a continuing resolution they

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Speaker 5: it's doubling, tripling. I saw one even John Oliver actually

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Speaker 5: k Okay. So with those types of numbers, the Democrats

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Speaker 5: we can fix this part, because what you're doing is

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Speaker 5: things that they may need, and when I'm not going

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Speaker 5: to get into the Snap yet, but I think this

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Speaker 5: is the big part, the healthcare thing. It's the most

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Speaker 5: it's the boring part that no one wants to hear about,

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Speaker 5: but it's the one that touches everybody until, of course,

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Speaker 5: the SNAP situation showed up. And once the Snap situation

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Speaker 5: showed up, I think it became quite clear after November one,

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Speaker 5: and people didn't see their re up on the Snap

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Speaker 5: on either the car or their account, that this thing

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Speaker 5: was real. And so the Democrats were kind of fortified.

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Speaker 5: And then this election happens, and the election happens on

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Speaker 5: the fourth or no member shoose me.

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Speaker 10: And it.

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Speaker 5: What it does is it shows that they're they're the

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Speaker 5: people are ready for there to be sensible or reasonable

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Speaker 5: debates and direction for the country. That is to say,

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Speaker 5: you know, a lot of Democrats won, but then also

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Speaker 5: in polling, a lot of people are now polling lower.

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Speaker 5: Trump has pulled some of the lowest numbers he's ever

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Speaker 5: had across the board with a lot of different a

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Speaker 5: lot of different groups. So all these things added to

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Speaker 5: this is very you know, this is this was It

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Speaker 5: looks as if the message has gotten through a lot

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Speaker 5: of people are starting to see the bad direction that

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Speaker 5: the Republicans are taking them in. And then Chuck Schumer

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Speaker 5: does something that is phenomenally terrible, which is, well, the

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Speaker 5: shutdown has too and we're going to go ahead and

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Speaker 5: cave on a continuing resolution. And the continuing resolution is

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Speaker 5: it comes with it some things for the military, some basis,

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Speaker 5: It comes with it some promises to bring people back

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Speaker 5: who have been furloughed during the shutdown, which would happen anyway. Uh,

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Speaker 5: And it doesn't provide any guarantees for any of the

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Speaker 5: things that people thought they were fighting for, any of

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Speaker 5: the things that people were rallying for no guarantees. They're

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Speaker 5: they're given a promise that there might be a vote

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Speaker 5: on the Affordable Care Act marketplace credits, maybe in December,

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Speaker 5: there may be a vote for it. There's not binding.

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Speaker 5: There's no binding you know, paperwork from anybody, from the

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Speaker 5: from the Republicans. And that is sending a signal to

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Speaker 5: a lot of people who were celebrating, say Mamdani in

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Speaker 5: New York, that the Democrats will always pull the rug

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Speaker 5: out from under it is. It is one of those

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Speaker 5: things that despite what all the details I just told

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Speaker 5: you is really I think one of the most dangerous

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Speaker 5: parts of it is a lot of people don't think

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Speaker 5: that that the older Democrats are matching the energy that

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Speaker 5: that in the in the urgency that people have of

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Speaker 5: fighting fascism and fighting the authoritarianism that we're looking at.

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Speaker 5: They were staring in the face right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, holdthority there twenty nine away from the top of

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Speaker 1: this is sort of a turnaround because we just got

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Speaker 1: off the elections, Brandon, it looked like the you know,

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Speaker 1: the Democrats have found their stride. You know, they look

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Speaker 1: good at the elections and they come back and do this.

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Speaker 1: How do you compute what happened there between those two events.

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Speaker 5: Well, well they're not they're not. Remember the elections, they

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Speaker 5: were across the board, So it wasn't It looks like

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Speaker 5: if you look at it, you know, from a certain angle,

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Speaker 5: you say, oh wow, you know, the crats really rolls up.

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Speaker 5: But this is how things kind of swing. But Trump

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Speaker 5: has accelerated everything. And the Democrats they just can't use

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Speaker 5: They have a horrible, horrible time with messaging. They're terrible

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Speaker 5: at trying to And I think it's the leadership, not

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Speaker 5: not the Democrats, not the constitutions, because MEMDAMMI remember uh

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Speaker 5: he ran not a flawless campaign, but it was one

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Speaker 5: that used all the tools that everyone is using or

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Speaker 5: younger people using today, and he did it very well.

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Speaker 5: And he's a very good politician, you know, at least

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Speaker 5: campaign and we don't. We're going to see what type

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Speaker 5: of mayor he makes. But this the the so called

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Speaker 5: sweet thing vibes. Yeah, they were some victories you had.

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Speaker 5: You had, of course, Abigail Stanberger who was uh she

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Speaker 5: won in Virginia Representative Schrelle one I believe in uh,

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Speaker 5: I want to say an yeah, yeah, you had I

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Speaker 5: mean just all of these these these different places that

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Speaker 4: Well, at your where you are, Prop fifty Prop.

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Speaker 5: Fifty you had, you had now governor knew some I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna tell this right quick. Is in response to Trump

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Speaker 5: did something you know along the line everything. You know,

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Speaker 5: there's this long list of unconstitutional things, which is which

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Speaker 5: makes them, you know, many of them criminal. He just

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Speaker 5: stood up and told, you know, these other states, including Texas,

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Speaker 5: go ahead and jerry manders, redistrict everything, she can get

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Speaker 5: more seats. And what that does is it leads to

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Speaker 5: taxation without representation. Is you know, when when people are

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Speaker 5: removed from being able to be heard, when they're representatives

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Speaker 5: are being taken away. But of course the Supreme Court,

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Speaker 5: you know, they got behind him. Texas go ahead, went

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Speaker 5: ahead and did it, and and I mean almost warp

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Speaker 5: speed time. Gavin Newsom, the governor of California, called for

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Speaker 5: put together because we have this thing where you can

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Speaker 5: put a proposal out and if if enough signatures can

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Speaker 5: add to it, then there's a ballot and people can

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Speaker 5: vote on it. And that is precisely what he did.

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Speaker 5: The proposition it's a proposition system. That's exactly what he did.

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Speaker 5: And he put it to a vote for the people.

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Speaker 5: He didn't declare it the party is a lot of

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Speaker 5: lies are going on. It's a power gravis. No, he

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Speaker 5: put it on the ballot and the people voted for it,

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Speaker 5: and they voted for it in Prop fifty. And what

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Speaker 5: that does is it allows California to establish a board

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Speaker 5: so they can redistrict to answer Texas, move to Jerryman

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Speaker 5: and get rid of democratic seats in Texas. And so

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Speaker 5: you know, it's it's done democratically here, and it's done

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Speaker 5: for the for the embetterment, for that that the nation

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Speaker 5: finds some balance. It really is a response to authoritarianism.

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Speaker 5: And once but once we get into the older generation,

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Speaker 5: the boomers, we were constantly up against this brick wall

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Speaker 5: where they just they just find a way to kind of,

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Speaker 5: you know, pull the rug out. I mean, people are

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Speaker 5: beside themselves right now, and and and rightly so they're

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Speaker 5: peed off, Carl. They're really upset about it, and I

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Speaker 5: think that they have a right to be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hold right there. Twenty three away from the topic.

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Speaker 1: Sound just drawing us from Baltimore. She wants to comment

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Speaker 1: on with some of the on the conversation she's online

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Speaker 1: Grand rising, Sandra.

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Speaker 12: You're on with Brandon, Oh glad riding Calm to you

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Speaker 12: and your guests. I couldn't wait for you to come

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Speaker 12: on this morning.

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Speaker 9: Calm.

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Speaker 12: We've been had, we've been bull buds that we've been

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Speaker 12: used up the creek. I knew this was gonna happen.

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Speaker 12: I knew they just gave Donald Trump everything he wanted.

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Speaker 12: Democrats need to go somewhere and sit down, because I mean,

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Speaker 12: they are doing absolutely nothing for the people. I knew

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Speaker 12: all this talking big and hey, we're not gonna cave.

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Speaker 12: We're not gonna cave. I knew after the selection Donald

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Speaker 12: Trump was gonna walk in there and sweep up everything

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Speaker 12: he wanted.

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Speaker 9: He did it.

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Speaker 12: He did it, and I'm gonna tell you something else.

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Speaker 12: He's gonna become the president the third time again too.

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Speaker 12: You watch you watch the ship. I don't have no

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Speaker 12: confidence and no face and no Democrats. I really don't.

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Speaker 12: Chuck Schumann. He need to put hang up his shoes.

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Speaker 12: He needed to go to were and the down and

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Speaker 12: retire because every time a big decision has to be made,

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Speaker 12: he always talked big, and then in the end he

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Speaker 12: came there. I knew this was gonna happen, and we're

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Speaker 12: gonna get absolutely nothing. Donald Trump got a big grin

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Speaker 12: on his face now because he did just That's why

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Speaker 12: he kept quiet, because he knew he was gonna swing

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Speaker 12: his weight. He knew they was gonna work it his way.

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Speaker 12: And I think some of them are all the gods

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Speaker 12: in the Democratic Party. They're working for Donald Trump under

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Speaker 12: the case you mean, tell me.

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Speaker 1: Take a break. And Brandon also a tweet came in

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Speaker 1: and said Schumer sold us out. Hakim doesn't want this deal.

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Speaker 1: I want you to respond to what Sandra said. And

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Speaker 1: also this tweet that came in after we take a

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Speaker 1: look at the news, the traffic and weather our different cities.

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Speaker 1: It's twenty three minutes away from the top of their family.

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Speaker 1: We're talking politics with Brandon. What are your thoughts in

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Speaker 1: this deal that was made? Reach out to us at

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Speaker 1: eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six

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Speaker 1: and we'll take your phone calls after news. That's next

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Speaker 1: and Grand Rising family, thanks for waking up with us

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Speaker 1: on this Monday morning. Thanks for starting a week with us.

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Speaker 1: We're talking politics with Brandon. He's a blogger. Before we

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Speaker 1: go back to Brandon, though, let us remind you come up.

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Speaker 1: Later this morning, we're gonna speak with a former vice

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Speaker 1: presidential candidate, doctor Malina Abdillah. You remember she and the

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Speaker 1: last election on the presidential ticket along with Cornell West.

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Speaker 1: She'll be here this morning. Also before though, we're going

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Speaker 1: to speak with movie maker Chris Riiser. You're talking about

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Speaker 1: his latest project called its title and movie or documentary,

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Speaker 1: Heavy is the Crown. And later this week you're going

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Speaker 1: to hear from author and clinician doctor Jeromi Fox, and

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Speaker 1: also attorney and ki Chi Tayifi will join us. So

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Speaker 1: if you are in Baltimore, make sure your radio is

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Speaker 1: locked in tight on ten ten WLB, or if you're

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Speaker 1: in the DMV, we're on fourteen fifty w L. All right, Brandon,

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Speaker 1: that the Gang of Eight led by Chuck Schumer. And

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Speaker 1: as you heard that, what Sondra said, she doesn't trust

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Speaker 1: the Democrats. She just indicted the entire Democratic Party. But

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Speaker 1: the Gang of Eight was included Dick Durbin from Illinois

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Speaker 1: and also Christian Gillibrand from New York. And let me

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Speaker 1: see who's the surprise on it. Well, if we knew

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Speaker 1: Fetterman would probably go that way. And also Angus King

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Speaker 1: would probably go that way, but also Christin Gilibart from

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Speaker 1: New York joined the Gang of Eight. Do you think

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Speaker 1: they voted because they were thinking about they may be

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Speaker 1: primary or their seats are under attack. And I'll let

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Speaker 1: you respond to what Sondra said in Baltimore about Chuck

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Speaker 1: Schumer and the Democrats.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think Chuck Schumer deserves all the ire for

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Speaker 5: the thirst of this to drop after a November the

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Speaker 5: election day and the Democrats win in the sales and

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Speaker 5: just took it out. This is a continuing resolution and

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Speaker 5: there's no guarantees. Even though Tim Kane in that in

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Speaker 5: that spot that you played on the news that Tim

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Speaker 5: ka gives us, you know, gives us a little blurb saying, okay,

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Speaker 5: here's what we got. They didn't get much anything. The

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Speaker 5: people coming back furloughed is a normal thing to bring

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Speaker 5: people back after you That's why they're called furlough, not fired.

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Speaker 5: There's no guarantee that any of this stuff is anything's

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Speaker 5: coming back. And all they've done is, you know, they've

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Speaker 5: reanimated some things. But the whole that is in the

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Speaker 5: budget that is going to strip many people of their healthcare,

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Speaker 5: their insurance is still there, and you know, this is

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Speaker 5: a country where you can go bankrupt if you have

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Speaker 5: a malady or an illness. You know. So there are

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Speaker 5: people who are trying to be responsible who some of

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Speaker 5: them are underemployed or they're their own you know, or

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Speaker 5: self employed, who are looking at this, you know, like

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Speaker 5: reasonable people and saying, look, I need to be covered.

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Speaker 5: You know, I don't know, if you remember the fight

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Speaker 5: for the Affordable Care Actor President Obama put up when

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Speaker 5: he first had it. This people don't really understand what

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Speaker 5: you're looking at. Even though he locked it in and

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Speaker 5: he locked it in in really strong law because he's

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Speaker 5: he was a congressional lawyer, and they knew what the

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Speaker 5: hell he was doing. But even this that everybody's kind

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Speaker 5: of fighting for, it was a molded and twisted version

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Speaker 5: because of what not just Republicans but Democrats. There were

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Speaker 5: still Democrats who twisted this thing, and it could have

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Speaker 5: been close to universal care for many people, or at least,

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Speaker 5: you know, a better balance, and instead what we ended

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Speaker 5: up getting was you know, the best he can get now.

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Speaker 5: Mind you, every presidents and is all the way back

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Speaker 5: will many presidents, all the way back to Theodore Roosevelt

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Speaker 5: was they were trying to do something like this to

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Speaker 5: ensure that the people in the United States had a

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Speaker 5: baseline of healthcare. And it seems like something's very boring

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Speaker 5: until you understand that you have to have it and

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Speaker 5: that we all must have it together, and so being being.

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Speaker 1: Something interrupted for a second. Brand on that thing. Why

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Speaker 1: is this country the only you know, I guess major

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Speaker 1: industrialized country doesn't have healthcare for its citizens. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you go to Canada, you go to the countries in Europe,

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Speaker 1: they have it. Even the third world countries take care

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Speaker 1: that the people who have been seek what's the problem?

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Speaker 1: Is it, big farm? What's your stomach?

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Speaker 5: There's several systems of greed that are locked in to

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Speaker 5: the healthcare process, not just health care itself, whether or

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Speaker 5: not you're going to see the doctor, whether or not

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Speaker 5: you're dealing with a nurse, whether at the beginning of life, birthing,

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Speaker 5: how much does it cost to have a child, how

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Speaker 5: much is it to the end of life where you

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Speaker 5: know you're talking about palative care and to even bury somebody.

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Speaker 5: I mean, this whole thing is it's money inspired and

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Speaker 5: pushed and what happens is the humanity is driven out

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Speaker 5: of it. And even if we say, now think about it,

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Speaker 5: even when we say the people say we want to

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Speaker 5: make sure that our tax dollars help help, you know,

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Speaker 5: keep everyone afloat, all of a sudden, some leaders show

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Speaker 5: up and they don't look at it that way, and

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Speaker 5: big farmers connected to them, and you know, they have

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Speaker 5: other other tentacles into their campaigns and their lives, and

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Speaker 5: they twist it. I mean, there's no guarantee that this thing,

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Speaker 5: that what they've done, you know, is going to bring it.

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Speaker 5: Let me tell you something. Let me tell you a

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Speaker 5: letter that they sent out. And this is the Department

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Speaker 5: of Health in California. Now California. We can get into

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Speaker 5: SNAP benefits in a minute, but there's a couple of

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Speaker 5: states that have actually paid out SNAP benefits. But before

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Speaker 5: we get to that, this is a Department of Health

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Speaker 5: Healthcare Services in California. It's not a letter basically saying

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Speaker 5: that GLP one drug will no longer be covered by

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Speaker 5: medical which is kind of their version of it. And

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Speaker 5: it's for weight loss and it includes you know, ten

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Speaker 5: drugs which also include ozempic and wegovi and among mount Jarrow.

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Speaker 5: These are you know, these are drugs that were made

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Speaker 5: famous because a lot of stars and stuff took them,

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Speaker 5: but they're actually they actually were brought on the market

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Speaker 5: as diabetic drugs to facilitate people who were near doctors

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Speaker 5: don't like to use the term pre diabetes, but that's

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Speaker 5: what they were there for, to facilitate people who's able

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Speaker 5: to tease were very high and they can you know,

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Speaker 5: they can maybe you know, kind of before they go

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Speaker 5: over the uh, before they go over the bridge into

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Speaker 5: into diabetes. Now, this is something that's preventable. And if

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Speaker 5: anybody's had a great Obamacare, which I said that has

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Speaker 5: saved lives, and I mean black men that I know

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Speaker 5: that have gone and get the screenings, that have gotten

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Speaker 5: blood panels and urine and FeCO panels, all these things

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Speaker 5: which are very important because they're like warning lights, Carl.

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Speaker 5: So you've got to go and you gotta you know,

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Speaker 5: you got to handle those things and and and you know,

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Speaker 5: learn about what it means, right, all those things. And

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Speaker 5: we're dealing with even the great state of California, which

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Speaker 5: has done some really good things to help its people,

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Speaker 5: to provide for its people, is going to stop this

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Speaker 5: program because, like I said, the Republicans decided to give

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Speaker 5: the zero zero servers un one percent this giant tax break,

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Speaker 5: and and and their talking point is whether people who

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Speaker 5: are lazy or it's always comes down to people who

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Speaker 5: are lazy. They don't they don't go into how most

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Speaker 5: of the people who who need this help care are

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Speaker 5: working class people who probably are dealing with more wage

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Speaker 5: steffs than anything else, because we actually have a billionaire

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Speaker 5: class in this country, which which glacierrizes huge amounts of money.

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Speaker 5: When I say billionaire class, let me just and I

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Speaker 5: don't want to get too far off this, but let

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Speaker 5: me just lay this down to you. Okay. Elon Musk

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Speaker 5: proposed and I believe they're close to giving it to him,

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Speaker 5: a package for him, compensation package for him worth one

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Speaker 5: trillion dollars, and we're sitting here. Go ahead.

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Speaker 1: They actually gave it to brand. But hold right there.

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Speaker 1: I got the Montees holding. He's got a question for you.

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Speaker 1: A commentation online too. It ate away from the top

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Speaker 1: of the hour, a Grand Rise in monte You're only branded.

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Speaker 13: Hey, Grand Rising Cars and Grand Rising. I guess I

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Speaker 13: appreciate your time. This month, I was calling and guy

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Speaker 13: to comment about our Chuck Schumer. He definitely seems like

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Speaker 13: a Republican. All this decision making in the last two years,

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Speaker 13: it's really hurting he it seems like, uh, the Republicans

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Speaker 13: are and the Democrats are won and were getting nothing

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Speaker 13: of confidence, and we they take everything from us and

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Speaker 13: give it back to us like the Americans are almost

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Speaker 13: you know, stupid. You know, they didn't give us anything.

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Speaker 13: It just took something and then gave it back. I mean,

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Speaker 13: I just don't understand the way that this country is going.

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Speaker 10: Man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Monte, I think if you call and you

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Speaker 1: talked about Chuck, he said, Chuck, you know it must

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Speaker 1: be working for the repeat. Well, Brandon, do you respond

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Speaker 1: to amantas And also remember that Chuck didn't support Mandonie

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Speaker 1: in New York as well.

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Speaker 5: He deserves all the ire that everybody wants to give him.

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Speaker 5: Right now, I'm not going to sit here and defend

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Speaker 5: his actions. I'm not going to defend what he did. Well,

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Speaker 5: what I will say is black votes. The Afro diaspora

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Speaker 5: in the United States of America doesn't vote monetarily. Excuse me,

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Speaker 5: it doesn't vote monolithically monetarily. Yet we actually do that

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Speaker 5: in any ways. But we don't vote. We vote. Most

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Speaker 5: of our voting history in the United States of America

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Speaker 5: for black folks is who will do us the least damage,

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Speaker 5: who will do the least damage to our our concerns, considerations,

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Speaker 5: our beliefs, you know, and and and our desires you know,

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Speaker 5: to to progress in this nation. Uh rarely and only

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Speaker 5: as of late, and we have people who have advocated

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Speaker 5: for us blindly. I'm blindly and I mean blindly in

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Speaker 5: a sense of of uh, just the the the content

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Speaker 5: of our character and not looking at how one thing

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Speaker 5: is balanced towards the other. Where we are still fighting

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Speaker 5: just for our humanity. Okay. So you know there's a

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Speaker 5: difference between LBJ and say President Obama. We weren't There

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Speaker 5: wasn't a consideration with President Obama of you know, how

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Speaker 5: dark was our skin to deal with that. And I

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Speaker 5: know that sounds crazy to some people, but you know,

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Speaker 5: that's that's that was one of the strongest things that

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Speaker 5: we always had to consider in dealing with the systems

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Speaker 5: in the United States of America. So Assumer at this

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Speaker 5: particular point deserves the ire from that brother and the

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Speaker 5: system and anybody that want to call him something, you know,

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Speaker 5: because yes, he he stayed away from Mamdani and we

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Speaker 5: all know what that was about. So did Jeffries. And

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Speaker 5: you know, Jeffries and I said this Carl shortly afterwards.

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Speaker 5: I said, Jeffries is going to pay with the younger

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Speaker 5: gen Z and the Alpha Jenn Alpha the first time

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Speaker 5: they're going to be voting. He's going to pay for

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Speaker 5: that vote that he gave for Charlie Kurt Day. He's

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Speaker 5: going to pay for that, you know. And I'm hoping,

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Speaker 5: but I think it's a reality because.

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Speaker 1: Literally, again a five way top, it was being Aby Hakeem,

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey's minority speaker. He gave a late endorsement of Macdonna.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's right before election day. Do you think that

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Speaker 1: was planned? Do you think he waited so he couldn't

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Speaker 1: get face the fire feed. It's endorsedment downey early. And

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Speaker 1: I'll let you respond to that when we get back,

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Speaker 1: because I'm looking at the clock here. We've got to

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Speaker 1: check the traffic and weather in our different cities. It's

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Speaker 1: four minutes away from the top. They our family just

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Speaker 1: waking up. I guess this political blog of Brandon you

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Speaker 1: could reach him at eight hundred four or five zero

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Speaker 1: seventy eight, seventy six, and we'll ticket phone calls after

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Speaker 1: the trafficking weather. That's Names and Grant Rising family, thanks

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Speaker 1: for starting your week with us. A minute after the

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Speaker 1: top of the out with political blog of Brandon, we're

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Speaker 1: analyzing what's going on in Washington, DC. A lot of

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Speaker 1: politics taking polace in Washington, d C. If you most

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Speaker 1: of you have probably heard the news. They're closer now

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Speaker 1: to ending the government shutdown. The Democrats caved eight of

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Speaker 1: Democrats caved in to support the bill. That's the Continuing

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Speaker 1: Resolutions on the desk right now and then moves over

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Speaker 1: to the House and we'll see what happens over there.

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Speaker 4: But Brandon, my question.

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Speaker 1: To you was, was uh that uh speaking Jeffreys, he

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Speaker 1: waited to the last minute to sport man domit you

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Speaker 1: think he could have jailed with I'm gonna go straight

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Speaker 1: to the chase with a pack because APAC provided him

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Speaker 1: with a lot of money and a lot of and

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Speaker 1: and they funded a lot of these uh elected officials.

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Speaker 1: So do you think he could a deal with him

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Speaker 1: that you wouldn't come out originally at the start, so

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Speaker 1: that that Mandomie would would get some legs in his

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Speaker 1: candidacy and wait till the last minute, so it wouldn't

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have a more or less impact on the race

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Speaker 1: in New York City.

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Speaker 4: Your thoughts, I.

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Speaker 5: Don't know, Uh, this is the mayor of New York.

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Speaker 5: He's not you know, he's not governor. It's a it's

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Speaker 5: it's it's one of those jobs where you get, you know,

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Speaker 5: a lot of light, but you're not you're not moving much.

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Speaker 5: You have to move much in different ways. I mean

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Speaker 5: it's Bloomberg, who was you know? Uh? I think it

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Speaker 5: was a billionaire when he got the gig. You know,

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Speaker 5: You've had different people run the city and they've it's

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Speaker 5: not necessarily as New York goes, so goes the nation.

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Speaker 5: If you know what I'm saying. It's one of those

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Speaker 5: star power jobs. But it doesn't necessarily mean that you

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Speaker 5: have power.

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 4: Old that thought? Right? Then?

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Speaker 1: Does this mean that he's not the face of the

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Speaker 1: Democratic Party right now?

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Speaker 7: Or is it?

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Speaker 4: Lisam? How do you see it?

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Speaker 5: I see his I see his strategy is the strategy

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Speaker 5: of new of new his strategy for using social media,

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Speaker 5: his strategy for and for what and what he's doing

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Speaker 5: is he's setting out what I call a governance or

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Speaker 5: fuzzy governance, which is to pull ideas from everywhere the

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Speaker 5: because the Republicans are a cult now they speak in

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Speaker 5: absolutes unless it you know, unless it's their dumb fear,

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Speaker 5: unless it's him doing something they get. They only get

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Speaker 5: fuzzy about the Epstein list all of a sudden. Now

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Speaker 5: it doesn't matter, right, but there's a you know, it's

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Speaker 5: nothing wrong with someone who's saying, I'm okay, I'm a

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Speaker 5: democratic socialist because of democratic socialism in the United States

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Speaker 5: of America has a rich, deep and successful history. A

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Speaker 5: couple of things unions come out of that thought process

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Speaker 5: and ideology Social security, Social social security. It's a pay

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Speaker 5: it forward system. Anybody who's ever been on it, they

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Speaker 5: get that speech before they leave their their last final

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Speaker 5: job that talks to them about it. It's nothing wrong

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Speaker 5: with pulling from different avenues. We have to get beyond

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Speaker 5: this idea that if you if you consider yourself in

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Speaker 5: one direction and one thing, that you can't pick up

869
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Speaker 5: other great ideas or other tools from another direction and

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Speaker 5: another thing, except for authoritarianism, because that was tried, Karl.

871
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Speaker 5: It was tried and eighty million lost their lives in

872
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Speaker 5: that less their lives in that lesson, you did know

873
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Speaker 5: what I'm saying, there's no need for us to go

874
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Speaker 5: through that anymore, and there's no need for us to

875
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Speaker 5: move forward anymore. In the United States of America, you

876
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Speaker 5: know what they called authoritarianism or what they called Nazism.

877
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Speaker 5: We had Jim Crow here, which had the same type

878
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Speaker 5: of laws. They weren't necessarily slated to someone's religion or

879
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Speaker 5: cultural ethnicity. They were slated to our color and then

880
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 5: our culture, and then our ethnicity, and were from redlining

881
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Speaker 5: from homes, redlinings in vitality, from not getting the GI

882
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Speaker 5: bill to not being able to receive Social Security when

883
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Speaker 5: it first started. That's right, when it first started, black

884
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Speaker 5: people weren't eligible for it. Right. We had our own

885
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Speaker 5: battles with that type of thinking. It doesn't work.

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Speaker 1: What you know, right there, I got some more folks

887
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Speaker 1: who want to talk to you. Ronnie's reaching out to

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Speaker 1: us from North Carolina's online two Grand Rising Ronnie are

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Speaker 1: on with Brandon's on line two.

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Speaker 5: Yeah here, Hello, yeah, go ahead, can you hear me?

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Speaker 4: Sure?

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Speaker 14: Okay? Good morning, skirt friend rising. So Brandon, So I

893
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Speaker 14: got a question about this deal. So I'm looking at

894
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Speaker 14: this deal, so it ends on January thirty year, but

895
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Speaker 14: portions of the deal that's about to fund SNAPPED and

896
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Speaker 14: other parts of the government to the end of the

897
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Speaker 14: fiscal year till next September. So you think that was

898
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Speaker 14: a calcualust that those Democrats had in which they agreed

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Speaker 14: to shut down the deal and knowing that there probably

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Speaker 14: another shut down in January, but they know that SNAP

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Speaker 14: and some of those other important funds will still be

902
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Speaker 14: funded when the fight up at the end of January.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I don't have any I don't have any professional

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Speaker 5: experience in SNAP distribution, but here is my base of

905
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Speaker 5: line playing at the yard basketball opinion. Once the Democrats said, look,

906
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Speaker 5: we're gonna stand up for the people. You're not going

907
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Speaker 5: to do this to them, they should have held out

908
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Speaker 5: until more people could feel what was happening. Do you

909
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Speaker 5: understand I'm saying there was a lot of fear in

910
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Speaker 5: people's minds when that November first came around and they

911
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Speaker 5: looked at their accounts. I don't know how SNAP works

912
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Speaker 5: around the nation, but I'm assuming that their accounts that

913
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Speaker 5: are set up or whatever, and you see that you

914
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Speaker 5: either have it or you don't have it, and they

915
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Speaker 5: should have let that become the driving momentum. And I'm

916
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Speaker 5: only saying because what you just said is absolutely correct.

917
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Speaker 5: They went for longer terms. But you're dealing with the government.

918
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Speaker 5: You're dealing with the people a cult who doesn't care

919
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Speaker 5: a damn bit of thing about the law, about ideas, concepts,

920
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Speaker 5: and promises. Trump put out a letter. He put out

921
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Speaker 5: a letter telling the states Alaska, I think, I want

922
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Speaker 5: to say Washington, I want to say California, and a

923
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Speaker 5: couple other states that actually had distributed their snaps to

924
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Speaker 5: give it back. Now that sounds crazy, right, namely all

925
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Speaker 5: the crazy stuff he said that they have actually made

926
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Speaker 5: a reality that they helped to make a reality. I

927
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Speaker 5: really want people to understand this. The Republicans have fully

928
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Speaker 5: and wholeheartedly abdicated their congressional responsibility to balance one of

929
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Speaker 5: the checks and balances on the executive branch. They have

930
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Speaker 5: completely because they fund the government, they are supposed to

931
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Speaker 5: control the purse streams, and they are supposed to control

932
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Speaker 5: whether or not, like say, tariffs are put out. I

933
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Speaker 5: don't want to go off into the terrorist state. So

934
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Speaker 5: what you said is actually so there is there a

935
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Speaker 5: win there through people unless people understand there's the win.

936
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Speaker 5: Is there actually a win? You know, politics is just

937
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 5: as much let me see what you've done as opposed

938
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Speaker 5: you just doing something. And I think a lot of

939
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Speaker 5: people pull out of this that tumors too old. The

940
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Speaker 5: boomers have let us down here. They're playing by old rules,

941
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Speaker 5: and they're not the people for the moment. I don't

942
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Speaker 5: think I don't think that these two this is my

943
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Speaker 5: personal view. I don't think that these people are matching

944
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Speaker 5: the moment, and they're not matching the energy that many

945
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Speaker 5: of us have. That we have fallen into a fascist abyss.

946
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Speaker 5: And I'm not speaking in high terms. I'm speaking directly

947
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Speaker 5: about it because people are still getting rounded up. And

948
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Speaker 5: I think there's a report, Carl that at least four

949
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Speaker 5: Americans so far have been shot by ICE. And so

950
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Speaker 5: what we're in Ice has been bullying and continues to

951
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 5: bully human beings as they're trying to set right, to

952
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Speaker 5: set themselves rights by the law. I don't want to,

953
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Speaker 5: you know, break off into that, but this is like

954
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Speaker 5: the brown Shirts, and as it's quietly going on in

955
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 5: this violence is being met upon these people. You know,

956
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 5: the congressional ties to this is being blown apart by

957
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 5: a cult.

958
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Speaker 14: Thank you. I got one more quick question, a feeling

959
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Speaker 14: we have a presidential lesson in twenty twenty eight. Who

960
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 14: do you really like as a front runner for the Democrats?

961
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Speaker 14: And I take it off the air, thank you.

962
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Newsom is obviously setting himself up to be the person.

963
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 5: I have this problem, Carl, with the Democrats. We throw

964
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Speaker 5: away champions, We throw them away. They don't win. With

965
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Speaker 5: how many times did Nixon run? Was it three? Reagan

966
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 5: ran twice? I think, uh, you know, lost the first time.

967
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 5: They always you know, they always lose it and then

968
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 5: and then they come back. But when Democrats lose, man,

969
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 5: that's it. You never hear from them again. Gore lost,

970
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 5: you never heard from again. He he went off and

971
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Speaker 5: did a couple you know, documentaries, and that was it.

972
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Speaker 5: I would like to see an A lot of people

973
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 5: want to say, I'd like to see a Kamala run again,

974
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 5: and I'd like her to fiercely talk about how she

975
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 5: called for cease fire early in her campaign is as

976
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Speaker 5: she could. The campaign was truncated, of course, as you know,

977
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 5: by the by the times and the perils of the

978
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 5: timing of it. But yeah, I think Newsom is probably.

979
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Speaker 5: You know, he's probably the front running all.

980
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 9: The man.

981
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: Brandon twelve after the top tweeted just said, Brandon, the

982
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:57,919
Speaker 1: Green ticket is Newsom and more.

983
00:55:58,320 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 4: It's on about Maryland.

984
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 5: You all thoughts, I don't know, you know, this is

985
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 5: why we need to have this is why we need

986
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 5: to have, you know, the elections that lead up to

987
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 5: and we need to have campaigns to hear what everybody

988
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 5: has to say. I'm only saying new So not not

989
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 5: because he's the governor of my state, but because he's

990
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 5: been so you know, boisterous and loud, and he has

991
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 5: he's fought back and a lot of people recognize that.

992
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 5: Now remember not too long ago, you know, he he

993
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 5: was hosting some of these ridiculous Republicans, some of the

994
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 5: high priests of this cult. Bannon was one of them.

995
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 5: He had him on his podcast, and so you have

996
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 5: to you know, those are things I think that he

997
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 5: needs to explain to the people. But yeah, I mean, yeah,

998
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 5: I see him as outlining as one. I don't know,

999
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna put together ticket right now because we

1000
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 5: still got to get through the midterms, and you know,

1001
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 5: judging from the actions of humor, who knows what's going

1002
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 5: to happen. I mean, they really had this issue right

1003
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 5: in the palm of the hands. And yes, people were suffering,

1004
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 5: they absolutely were. But the point of the matter is

1005
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 5: is that you have to you have to stop, stop

1006
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 5: the situation and or the machine that's forcing the suffering,

1007
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 5: rather than than throwing a band aid on it and saying, well,

1008
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 5: we got to promise to stop the suffering, which is

1009
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 5: which is not the case. You know, you don't know

1010
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 5: what they're going to do. You can't depend on them.

1011
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 5: And because there's no way to bind for that. You know,

1012
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 5: they said they're going to put the vote on the

1013
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 5: floor that they they got they got to promise that

1014
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 5: the that the Republicans will put the vote on the

1015
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 5: floor for the affordable care accent. That's not you know,

1016
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 5: it's not binding, gotcha.

1017
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: Thirteen after the top, they are Another news item came

1018
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 1: through this morning that Donald Trump's part in Rudy Giovanni

1019
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: and others who back there is to overturn the twenty

1020
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: twenty election. You talk, you talk about the financism coming.

1021
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: Is this another direction another move into what you discussion

1022
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: this morning?

1023
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 5: I mean, yes, we're in it. It's not coming. So yes,

1024
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 5: that's what this is. That's what they do. We're dealing

1025
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 5: with what, you know, what's called a cacristocracy, which is

1026
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 5: when you have some of the worst people who could

1027
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 5: be in positions, in positions like a like a cash

1028
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 5: Ftel who's the head of the h FBI and flying

1029
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 5: his plane, this private jet to go see his girlfriend.

1030
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:32,479
Speaker 5: You know, now that's not not only is that kind

1031
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 5: of you know, immature, it's dangerous that you're that you

1032
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 5: would be that loose with you know, with that type

1033
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 5: of equipment, with that type of sis, because it shows

1034
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 5: that you can be easily influenced to do something. You know.

1035
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: It's just right, taxpayers money at that that's you.

1036
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 5: Know, yeah, yeah, I mean the tax Yeah, the taxpayer

1037
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 5: money thing is that you know, given how ridiculous that is,

1038
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 5: but it's just you know, that's your girlfriend. Is it

1039
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 5: your girlfriend? I'm not I don't know where I'm not

1040
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 5: trying to lay that is, but just to you know,

1041
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 5: to to go to those links shows kind of a

1042
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 5: denial of who you are and the seriousness of your position,

1043
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 5: you see what I'm saying. And so there's there's a

1044
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:24,439
Speaker 5: definite disconnect there. You know, Sure, he can come down

1045
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 5: on small people, or he can he can send the

1046
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 5: FBI and to investigate people and do all kinds of things.

1047
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 5: But you know, you're you're you're taking you know, the

1048
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 5: people's plane for a booty call.

1049
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: Fifteen half the topic this Brandon family. He's a political blogger.

1050
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? Eight hundred four five zero seventy

1051
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: eight seventy six. Cliff is callings from Connecticut. He's online too,

1052
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: Grand Rising, Cliff, you're always Brandon.

1053
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 15: I'll put that down Grand Rising and Brandon, I agree

1054
00:59:58,280 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 15: with you one hundred percent.

1055
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Speaker 16: No reason why the black leadership should not come together

1056
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 16: and galvanize and support or maybe influence or persuade Vice

1057
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 16: President former Vice President Kamala Harris to run. I just

1058
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 16: don't get it, you know. And so here we go again.

1059
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 16: You know, just say she did she was a nominee

1060
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 16: for the Black for the Black leadership. Then they can

1061
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 16: do is do that primary in which they were talking

1062
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 16: about before, and then if the Democratic Party, now that

1063
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 16: would be an opportunity to put the Democratic Party to

1064
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 16: the test whether they be willing to vote for sister

1065
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 16: Kamala Harris. But at this point, I don't I don't

1066
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Speaker 16: understand why she won't run. And if she doesn't have

1067
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 16: the desire to run, then how seriously did she want

1068
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 16: that Candnessey in the first place? Trump wanted that presidency

1069
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 16: suon as he lost. The whole campaign was about him winning,

1070
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 16: and even what they had at debate and he didn't

1071
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 16: show up, they knew that they wanted Trump to be

1072
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Speaker 16: the nominee. And so all I'm simply saying is why

1073
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 16: can't we have that same desire and that same fervor

1074
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 16: to have Kamla Harris to win and or to run again?

1075
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 16: And we just won't do it. And so here we

1076
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 16: go again. If she doesn't run, then we'll have some

1077
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 16: white boy, whether it be Prisker from Illinois, whether it

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Speaker 16: be Shapiro from Pennsylvania, whether Renew some written Rich Moore

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Speaker 16: from Michigan. So here we go again. And this is

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Speaker 16: what black Republicans say when they say that black people

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Speaker 16: are on a Democratic plantation, because we go through the

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Speaker 16: same thing over and over again. Where won't we see

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Speaker 16: another black president?

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Speaker 1: All right, Cliff, I thank you for your call. We

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Speaker 1: got to step aside for a few moments. I'll let

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Speaker 1: Brandon respond to that. We've got some more folks want

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Speaker 1: to talk to Brandon. We're talking politics this morning. Family,

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Speaker 1: why I get in on this conversation? Reach out to

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Speaker 1: us an eight hundred and four five zero seventy eight

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Speaker 1: seventy six and we'll take your phone calls next and

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Speaker 1: Grant Rising family, thanks for starting your week with us.

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Speaker 1: Twenty one minutes after the top of that, I guess

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Speaker 1: this's the political blog of Brandon are discussing could possibly

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Speaker 1: be the end of the shutdown. I'm judging from the

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Speaker 1: calls we've had so far, I don't think many people

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Speaker 1: are happy with the deal that was made. But before

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Speaker 1: we do that, Brandon, Jane Detroit wants to speak to

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Speaker 1: you before we go to Jay though, why don't you

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Speaker 1: respond to Cliff's question about Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 5: Well, there's a two part situations. There's us, the electorate

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Speaker 5: is the constituency the voters, and then there's the candidates.

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Speaker 5: And I can't really rate many candidates for not wanting

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Speaker 5: to go through that process. It is a damning process

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Speaker 5: when you lose. Many of them have talked about the

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Speaker 5: bitterness that they have and the pain that they go through,

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Speaker 5: and so I can't you know, if someone doesn't want

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Speaker 5: to run again, I can't sit there and shelve them forward.

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Speaker 5: My thing is the problem is that we don't support

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Speaker 5: people when they tip, when they when they tip their

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Speaker 5: toes into it, when they say, we don't say, you know,

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Speaker 5: get up there and go do it again. For some reason,

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Speaker 5: it's you know, you lose on the left and that's it,

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Speaker 5: and they're done with you. And the idea should be

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Speaker 5: we'll get them next time, and it shouldn't be. It

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Speaker 5: shouldn't be. I mean Biden is pretty much an example

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Speaker 5: of that. You know, he lost a couple of times.

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Speaker 5: He had been in officer quite some time. President Obama

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Speaker 5: picked him up as vice president and then he has

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Speaker 5: a name. You know, he ran using that to catapult him.

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Speaker 5: But in this situation, I you know, I couldn't imagine

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Speaker 5: being her, And what I wanted to see from her is,

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Speaker 5: you know, some of that fired, and we know he got.

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Speaker 5: But the resignation I think was ready for that. She

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Speaker 5: didn't want to give them the easy I my opinion,

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Speaker 5: the easy angry black woman Monica. But that's kind of

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Speaker 5: what we need when you're when you're talking, when someone

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Speaker 5: blurts out the Haitian immigrants are eating pets, they're eating

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Speaker 5: cats and dogs. A remarkable lie, just a just a

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Speaker 5: horrible lie that because it's a cult, helped put targets

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Speaker 5: on those people's backs. They had to start, they had

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Speaker 5: to had their head on a swivel, Karl, and they

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Speaker 5: had to start being woke in that community because they

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Speaker 5: were getting frids because of it, you know, And you

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Speaker 5: kind of wanted someone who was going, you know, take

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Speaker 5: that and use it as a as a strong and

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Speaker 5: powerful political bludgeon, and that that wasn't in her plans.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if it's in her nature because I've

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Speaker 5: never met the woman, but I just wasn't insight. And

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Speaker 5: that's the kind of thing. It's like, sometimes we need

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Speaker 5: to butcher some of them folks and say, you know what,

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Speaker 5: let loves go ahead, cut loose. It's time, gotcha.

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Speaker 1: Twoenty three of that top. As I mentioned, Jay's joining

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Speaker 1: us from Detroit. He wants to get in on this conversation.

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Speaker 1: He's online three Grand Rising Jay Erromic Brandon.

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Speaker 11: Rising, Grand Rising to your guests. Before I ask my question,

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Speaker 11: I just want to preface this my comments and questions

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Speaker 11: because I normally don't get too much into politics because systematically,

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01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 11: most people don't really understand how it works. Referred to

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Speaker 11: the Democratic facade, people like Sea write meals and others.

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Speaker 11: But anyway, first of all, used to be an old

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Speaker 11: adage about lawyers and how can you tell when the

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Speaker 11: lawyer's lyne. It's like when you see the mouth move,

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Speaker 11: So you know, I kind of look at that. It's

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Speaker 11: politicians too. The so called promise and deal that the

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Speaker 11: Republicans supposedly put out, it's not worth the paper was

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Speaker 11: written on, so I would discount that, you know, it

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Speaker 11: just it's really ridiculous. But my question is related to

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Speaker 11: I saw a scroll of the news report that Trump

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Speaker 11: has come out and said that he was going to

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Speaker 11: issue two thousand dollars to most Americans based upon the

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Speaker 11: revenue they getting from tariffs. So I wanted to know

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Speaker 11: if Brandon had seen that or heard anything about that.

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Speaker 11: And one last thing related back to your original conversation

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Speaker 11: around the football game and sports, which is my wheelhouse.

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Speaker 11: There's been reports that what initiated that altercation between the

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Speaker 11: Washington Commander's defensive mineman and i'man sat R from the

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Speaker 11: Lions was that when he scored a touchdown, he did

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Speaker 11: the celebration and pointed to the suite where Trump was

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Speaker 11: supposed to be as a salute to Trump and did

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Speaker 11: the little Trump dance. And so that's what precipitated the

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Speaker 11: ire for that football player on the Commanders. Along with it,

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Speaker 11: they were physically hetting beat up also. So I just

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Speaker 11: wanted to but back to the tariffs thing. Have you

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Speaker 11: heard anything about that? To your guest Brandon.

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Speaker 5: All, Thanks Jay, there's some reports that says the tariffs

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Speaker 5: have cost American families about three thousand to six thousand dollars.

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Speaker 5: I've I've heard different. Understand that any amount of money

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Speaker 5: that comes your way is if there comes anybody's way,

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Speaker 5: is coming from the purse that they already paid in

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Speaker 5: the taxes. This is what was so important. I don't

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Speaker 5: know if you were able to hear. The Supreme Court

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Speaker 5: just had a hearing on and the prosecution didn't really

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Speaker 5: have much to say. Kay Tell Kittel Katte was brilliant

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Speaker 5: in his assessment of what it was. And yes, I

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Speaker 5: mean even even Roberts came out and said, look, terrorists

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Speaker 5: are a tax. So how somebody going to tax, tax,

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Speaker 5: tax everybody and then give them back a part of

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Speaker 5: the tax. That's like you know, when you're going to

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Speaker 5: you're going to an underground gambling joint. They you know,

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Speaker 5: you put down some money, they give you some chips,

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Speaker 5: and then you lose and they give you some of

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Speaker 5: them chips back. Well, where's the rest of my money?

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Speaker 5: We're taking that.

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Speaker 10: The whole Yeah you still yeah, right, yeah, they playing

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Speaker 10: with people, But a lot of people went with that

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Speaker 10: before when in his first term, you know, when they're

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Speaker 10: supposed to issue.

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Speaker 11: Those uh checks out, it was the same principles. So

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Speaker 11: and at a time when you know, like you said,

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Speaker 11: it's poll numbers are low and people are starting to

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Speaker 11: wake up to you know, these aborted policies that they've

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Speaker 11: been instituted, you know, the complete chaos that they've created

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Speaker 11: in just ten months, and so you know, and the media,

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Speaker 11: the so called media is so complicit that it's too

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Speaker 11: you know, and the way they present this.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, look, look for everybody, for everybody, it is

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Speaker 5: so important to support Carl Nelson because here's why. For

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Speaker 5: everyone that needs the media, and I'm even saying this,

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Speaker 5: you know, for conservatives as well. You need a media

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Speaker 5: that's going to use the resources of the bigger business,

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Speaker 5: the corporation that owns that's going to ask direct questions

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Speaker 5: so that you can not just map out your day

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Speaker 5: or week or month, but that your life is not

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Speaker 5: in due chaos. And instead what has happened is the

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Speaker 5: heads of these news departments have been the need to

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Speaker 5: a government. It is dangerous. It is the only job

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Speaker 5: in the constitution that is not set up in the

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Speaker 5: checks and balances that has protection, and that's power of

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Speaker 5: the press, the only one. And yet still they bend

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Speaker 5: the knee, all of them, all of them, of the

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Speaker 5: of the top in the big news organization. I call

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Speaker 5: them organizations, but they're actually corporatocracies. All of them have

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Speaker 5: been to need to this cat and I'm telling you

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Speaker 5: it is connected in the same way with authoritarian authoritarianism.

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Speaker 5: What happens is what gets lost is the future because

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Speaker 5: you cannot make plans based on lies of today. You

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Speaker 5: cannot if you try to do that, the like you

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Speaker 5: go down the room, somebody say, hey man, that bridge

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Speaker 5: is out, and that telling you the news. You're not

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Speaker 5: listening to it. You're going off the bridge. But if

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Speaker 5: someone says, oh, it's fine, you're still gonna go off

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Speaker 5: the bridge. And the problem is is that we've gotten

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Speaker 5: to the point where we can't listen to everyday reports,

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Speaker 5: which is insane. I mean, you gotta, you gotta really

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Speaker 5: listen to Carl Show to find out what the weather

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Speaker 5: in traffic is because you don't know if they're gonna

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Speaker 5: tell you the truth about it. And so it's it's

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Speaker 5: it's it's a bigger it's a bigger problem. And I'm

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Speaker 5: in the wave of the youth that's coming is coming

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Speaker 5: from an era or a decision or an area of

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Speaker 5: we don't trust you at all. The okay boomer has

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Speaker 5: spread to Gen X and even gone into some of

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Speaker 5: the some of the millennials because they can see and

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Speaker 5: they've discussed what's happened. Social media is here and they

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Speaker 5: talk about all the time. Yes, a lot of it's silly, Yes,

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Speaker 5: a lot of it's still immature. Yes, a lot of

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01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 5: it is still isn't completely formed, but there's a lot

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Speaker 5: that is. And they're hitting the nails on the head.

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Speaker 5: And then you got Chuck Schumer, a man to them

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Speaker 5: that seems positively ancient making decisions about the future that

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Speaker 5: he probably won't see.

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Speaker 11: And that's very profound what you just said, that's so

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01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 11: very important. And social media, even you know, it has

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Speaker 11: its drawbacks. It's the modern day drumbeat. It's the issue

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Speaker 11: and function of communication, especially among the young people. And

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Speaker 11: we you know, I'm a boomer and we have to

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01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 11: be more in tune what's going on for sure. So yeah,

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Speaker 11: I can cur one hundred percent or two. And people

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Speaker 11: need to read Jason Stanley's book about fascism, and yeah,

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Speaker 11: so many other you know, but that's I promote them

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01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 11: because he's he's right on time. And every time you

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01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:31,640
Speaker 11: come on, you right on time because the warning, the

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01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 11: signs are right there. You know, you see history being

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Speaker 11: repeated with the media being taken over. That's just Joseph

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Speaker 11: Goebbels all again, you know that type of thing. All right,

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Speaker 11: thanks for the insight.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to another thing too, Brandon. That that two thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars that Jay talked about. It's not going to be

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Speaker 1: a check family, So don't think it's going to be

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Speaker 1: a check with his name atty like the last time around.

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Speaker 1: He's talking about cutbacks. He's talking about the fact that

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Speaker 1: people social Security who get the one have to pay

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Speaker 1: taxes on this Social Security. They're figuring in all kinds

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Speaker 1: of ways you won't get a physical check for two grands.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted everybody to know.

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Speaker 5: That he's sent a memo. He sent a memo out

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Speaker 5: telling the states that started up they were able. These

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01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 5: are mostly blue state they able us to deliver some

1280
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:23,640
Speaker 5: snap benefits to give them back to the government. Do

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Speaker 5: you think a person like that really wants you to

1282
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 5: do it? Look, Natie Pelosi just announced that she's not

1283
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 5: going to run for office again. Let me tell you

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Speaker 5: why that's important. Senator Cortes Mastau sixty one years old,

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Speaker 5: The Durban eighty, Fetterman fifty six, Maggie Hassan sixty seven,

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Speaker 5: Him Kane sixty seven, Angus King eighty one, Jackie rose

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Speaker 5: In sixty eight, Janine Shaheen seventy eight. These are the

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Speaker 5: top people that voted with the with the Republicans. To

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Speaker 5: what people are saying is is the cavin okay with this,

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Speaker 5: with this UH shutdown? She is allowing hersel I think

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Speaker 5: she broke her hip to at some point, but she's saying, okay,

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Speaker 5: this is done. But one of the more powerful things

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Speaker 5: people need to study this. She was the person, the

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Speaker 5: point person who was who was responsible for the COVID

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Speaker 5: stimulates pack. She is she's the one that ensured that

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Speaker 5: it stayed alive. Trump didn't want to do it at first,

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Speaker 5: and she's the one that ensured that it stayed alive. Now,

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Speaker 5: his his signature ended up on it, but it was

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Speaker 5: it was her efforts that it that that ushered this

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Speaker 5: thing through the channels, through the purse, the power of

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Speaker 5: the purse. And that's one of the few times, Carl Well,

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Speaker 5: we we chose through our representatives to help one another

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Speaker 5: through COVID, and those checks came and those accounts were

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Speaker 5: filled for those who who qualified, and you know, people

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Speaker 5: kind of made do as best they can. And there

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Speaker 5: was a whole as far as I'm concerned, the whole

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Speaker 5: evil side to what the business took. But that's a

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Speaker 5: different show altogether. That's that's what that looks like. Though

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Speaker 5: it's a fight, it's a grapple. It's how we're going

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Speaker 5: to get this through, not just someone saying, Okay, you're

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Speaker 5: gonna get to do two grand like you just said,

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Speaker 5: ain't gonna happen. I don't think it's gonna happen. Me

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Speaker 5: put it that way because I'm not an economist. But

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Speaker 5: for every other lie that has been told, which one

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Speaker 5: do you think is one to hold on to. You know,

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Speaker 5: the checkers in the mail, Come on.

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Speaker 1: Brandon, twenty six away from the topic. Let me ask

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Speaker 1: you this though, if this resolution is passed and the

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Speaker 1: government reopens, then they have to swear in the lady

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Speaker 1: from Arizona, and then the Democrats will have enough votes

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Speaker 1: to open the Epstein fives. Do you think they've factored

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Speaker 1: that into these developments, Well.

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Speaker 5: They have much enough votes to move that legislation forward

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Speaker 5: that the actual files being opened I think would be

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Speaker 5: still two steps away. Am I correct? Wouldn't it? It's

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Speaker 5: not necessarily because there it hasn't been voting on. But yes,

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Speaker 5: she does remain. You know, one of the strong points

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Speaker 5: that Democrats have and one of the weak the things

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Speaker 5: that make Johnson week is that he has not seated her,

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Speaker 5: and he's come up with excuse of excuse, have excused

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Speaker 5: a lot of people said basically, you know, the one

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Speaker 5: of the reasons why we're in the shutdown is because

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Speaker 5: of that. I think that there might be a confluence

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Speaker 5: of things, but yeah, there are actions that move people

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Speaker 5: from one direction to another if you don't pay attention.

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Speaker 5: And I'm telling you, you know, my man, it was

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Speaker 5: just on it mirrors a lot of what happens to fashion.

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Speaker 5: The person he was talking about was Jason Stanley. He

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Speaker 5: wrote this book called How Fascism Works, and it's it's

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Speaker 5: it's pretty spot on with how modern day Carl modern

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Speaker 5: day not just always Nazism, but or Bond and and

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Speaker 5: a few others that have used these kind of maps.

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Speaker 5: And when you start reading it, you're going to wow,

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Speaker 5: you know, and then you look at Trump you go wow,

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Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, And so yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 5: think that in connection with that, those things, those things

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Speaker 5: have you know, they may have legs in one way

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Speaker 5: or another, but you got to understand, you know, what

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Speaker 5: is it? What is the bigger picture?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 5: How are how are we you know, how are we

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Speaker 5: looking at? Who is turning it off? Because, like I said,

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Speaker 5: the Pelosi's she's leaving. You know a lot of people

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Speaker 5: right now are calling for for Schumer to resign, which

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Speaker 5: I just don't think of. As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 5: I didn't count Carl, but uh, this is all. One

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Speaker 5: of the things that makes this really bad for for

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Speaker 5: Shumer at all is that a lot of these people

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Speaker 5: they're safe votes. Many aren't. You know, there's a couple

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Speaker 5: that aren't going to run for the office. Again, there

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Speaker 5: are a couple that are safe beyond twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 5: They're in the twenty twenty eight. So if they are

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Speaker 5: not doing it, and then Schumer could just say he

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Speaker 5: voted no. I think he said, you know, but are

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Speaker 5: you are you the leader of the minority or not?

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Speaker 5: You know? Are you trying to say this is out

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Speaker 5: of your hand?

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Speaker 14: You know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and hold that though.

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Speaker 1: Right there, we got to step aside and get caught

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Speaker 1: up in the latest news, traffic, and weather in at

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Speaker 1: different cities. It's twenty three minutes away from the top.

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Speaker 1: They have family. You two can join our conversation with Brandon.

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Speaker 1: He's a political blogger. Reach out to us at eight

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Speaker 1: hundred four to five zero seventy eight seventy six and

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Speaker 1: we'll take your phone calls after the news that's next

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Speaker 1: and Grand Rising family. Thanks for starting your week with us.

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Speaker 1: It's more than fifteen minutes away from the top the

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Speaker 1: what political blog of Brandon join us from out of California, Pasadena, California,

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Speaker 1: be exact. Coming up later this morning, we're going to

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Speaker 1: speak with former vice presidential candidate doctor Melina abdullah S

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Speaker 1: who was on the ticket with Cornell West in the

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Speaker 1: last election, last presidential election. Also, we're going to speak

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Speaker 1: to a movie mayor, Chris Reiser. He's going to previous

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Speaker 1: ladies project Heavy is the Crown. That's the title of

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Speaker 1: his latest project. And later this week you're going to

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Speaker 1: hear from author and clinician doctor Jeromy Fox and also

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Speaker 1: turning and keech you Tay you feel Jonas. So if

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Speaker 1: you are in Baltimore, make sure your radio's lot in

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Speaker 1: tied on ten ten WLB, or if you're in the

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Speaker 1: DMV or on fourteen fifty WL. All right, Brandon got

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Speaker 1: a tweet question for it two that says, I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to decipher this, so just apologize. Sometimes you get tweets

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Speaker 1: and you gotta put it in the right frame. Is

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Speaker 1: if there's a next shutdown, should also the elected officials

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Speaker 1: not be paid? Congress should not get paid. How do

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Speaker 1: we go about achieving that? Basically, the question is, if

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Speaker 1: this is next shutdown, Congress, all the Congress people who

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Speaker 1: can okay the shutdown or not should not get paid.

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Speaker 1: Basic and Fust wantson how is that achieved?

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean it's a very unique position. They get

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01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 5: to vote on their own pay when they receive it

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Speaker 5: and also when they get rass that's one of the

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Speaker 5: rare things Congress to get them. People don't like it,

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Speaker 5: you know you can, you can kick them out. I

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Speaker 5: will say this though also to I always go back

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Speaker 5: to this. President Obama one day of one of his

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Speaker 5: say the Union species look right at Alito and said

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Speaker 5: that Citizens United case was going to put a heavy

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Speaker 5: strain on the people's voice because it basically allows corporations

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Speaker 5: of any size and people of any wealth to speak

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Speaker 5: with their cash. And it has injected huge amounts of

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Speaker 5: money into the election process to the point where to

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Speaker 5: have somebody represents you, they have their almost in constant

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Speaker 5: money raising mode, and they have to make alliances sometimes

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Speaker 5: with their biggest donors to do things. This is what

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Speaker 5: when you speak of APEX, That's what's happening. And I'm

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Speaker 5: not even I don't know how many, especially on the Democrats,

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Speaker 5: I don't how many people align themselves ideologically with theay back.

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Speaker 5: But if they if they're well funded by them, and

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Speaker 5: they're can and they're offered funding, and it's it's sound

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Speaker 5: like bribery. It in my I agree with President Obama

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Speaker 5: that way. It's not bribery anymore than it would be

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Speaker 5: if you're if Citizens United didn't exist and you could contribute,

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Speaker 5: you know, up to four grand and you did that

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Speaker 5: yourself and expected, you know, some sort of reaction to that.

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Speaker 5: But it's it's gotten completely. It's it's ridiculous. And that's

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Speaker 5: one of the bigger problems I think is that the

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Speaker 5: money is so Yes, they can vote, they can vote

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Speaker 5: on their own raises, they can vote on their own salaries,

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Speaker 5: they can vote on it. So the answer probably is no,

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Speaker 5: there's no way to no way to stop that because

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Speaker 5: they do get it. They still get Congress still gets

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Speaker 5: eight during a shutdown. Everybody else around them, including on

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Speaker 5: the the in the mall, you know, the people that

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Speaker 5: handle the the tours and cleaning up, and they're not

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Speaker 5: they're not paid. They're not paid. They're not even paid

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Speaker 5: to keep the place sanitary.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that's a whole nother discussion there. They all

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Speaker 1: these troopers that came into Washington, d C. And they

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Speaker 1: have been on a beautification project, if you will, you know,

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Speaker 1: instead of.

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Speaker 4: Stopping stuff that right right, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But Brandon, here here's another question that somebody said, they're

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Speaker 1: analyzing the results of Tuesdays elections and it saw that

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Speaker 1: the Latino audiences come back. You know, they broke for

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Speaker 1: Trump in the presidential election. Granted he wasn't on any

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Speaker 1: of the tickets, but they're looking at the reports now

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Speaker 1: and say most of them have voted for the Democrats

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Speaker 1: in the last elections.

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Speaker 4: What are your thoughts about that?

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, the Latino vote was split in a

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Speaker 5: way that was very interesting. It was mostly men, Latino

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Speaker 5: men that broke for Trump a lot.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 5: The women had a good percentage, but it wasn't as high.

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Speaker 5: I was at a situation. I was at a job

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Speaker 5: and I heard one of the catching line and he said, yeah, well,

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Speaker 5: you know, I voted, and he spoke.

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Speaker 9: He spoke.

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Speaker 5: He spoke in a Southern California Latino dialect, which sounds

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Speaker 5: like someone can speak Spanish, but they don't. You know,

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Speaker 5: It's it's their own kind of unique thing. And he

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Speaker 5: looked on his arms and he had Dodgers tat it

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Speaker 5: on his arm, you know, a real tattoo, and he

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Speaker 5: was wearing the Dodger's hat, which I found, you know interesting.

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Speaker 5: I'm just I'm ear hustling and listening, and he talked

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Speaker 5: about his vote for Trump and why he voted for him.

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Speaker 5: He was talking to somebody else and I just found it,

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Speaker 5: you know, remarkable, because they're able, many of them, not all,

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Speaker 5: but many are able to disassociate themselves from the words

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Speaker 5: that this man put out from the very beginning, Carl,

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Speaker 5: from the very beginning, he inspired two brothers, two white

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Speaker 5: men who were brothers in Boston to run up on

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Speaker 5: a sleeping Latino, homeless man and beat him and then

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Speaker 5: urinate on him. And we know this because they were

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Speaker 5: caught and prosecuted for it, and that they said that,

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Speaker 5: you know, they were inspired by Trump. And this is

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Speaker 5: from the very beginning. They're not sending us their best,

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Speaker 5: and yet and still he was still able to find

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Speaker 5: a headway. I think the idea that cruelty is to

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Speaker 5: point for some people is enough and for some others,

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Speaker 5: you know, whatever their ideas were, you know, ideologically, we

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Speaker 5: probably this wayed by some sort of I don't know, Carl,

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Speaker 5: I can say some sort of they bought, they bought,

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Speaker 5: they bought the they bought the sack that this man

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Speaker 5: can produce great things through business. And as we know,

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Speaker 5: you know, we are entrepreneurs as well, Latinos are, and

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Speaker 5: so they have that spirit and so that spirit probably

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Speaker 5: spoke to them in many ways.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let me ask you this. I ate away from

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Speaker 1: the tom you think it was the fact that he

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Speaker 1: was deporting so many and going after them with ice

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Speaker 1: and not going after them in a nice way. You know,

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Speaker 1: he said he was going after the murders or the rapists,

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Speaker 1: and I guess when they ran out of those, they're

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Speaker 1: just picking up grandma's who's to overstate their visas and

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01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:49,839
Speaker 1: people who are not, you know, another threat to society.

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Speaker 1: It goes around picking them up. Do you think that

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Speaker 1: that had an impact on the on the racial last Tuesday?

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01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:57,760
Speaker 1: Because I mentioned were pawn in Jersey Hudson County, which

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01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 1: is as a forty percent pop population a Hispanic population,

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01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:06,080
Speaker 1: and Democrat Mika charell a beat Republican jack Is Sarah

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01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 1: Telly by fifty points. And this just one of what

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01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 1: they're pointing to that spanksand finally got that wake up

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01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:13,479
Speaker 1: call and probably coming back home to the Democratic Party.

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Speaker 5: Your thoughts, I absolutely believe that it had some sort

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01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:20,760
Speaker 5: of effect on them. It's not what you just said,

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01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 5: It's not just which is you know, a horrible thing

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01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 5: to say, but it's not just rounding them up, but

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01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 5: the way in which he's doing it and who he's

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01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 5: rounding up. And maybe they thought that they could disassociate

1513
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 5: themselves from you know, they're not a monolith either. You know,

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01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:40,519
Speaker 5: I tell people this all the time. I've said this

1515
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:42,880
Speaker 5: on your show all the time, that LA is that

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01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 5: the Latino Afro American bond in Los Angeles is as

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01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:51,519
Speaker 5: old as the city. We founded it.

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01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:51,760
Speaker 3: It was.

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01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 5: It was a dei diverse, woke group of people that

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01:26:57,120 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 5: founded Los Angeles, and they been here and they you know,

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01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:06,960
Speaker 5: they they're not all New age immigrants or yesterday immigrants,

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01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:10,679
Speaker 5: and they're not all you know, locked in to one

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01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 5: thing or another. So I can imagine seeing people snatched from

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01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 5: their children while they're screaming, seeing people who are going

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01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 5: to courts to do the right thing, and then walking

1526
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 5: out into a hallway of masked white men in you

1527
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:30,840
Speaker 5: know what looks like you know, Amazon, Bob Camo snatching

1528
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 5: people and just putting in there and black backing them.

1529
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:36,479
Speaker 5: Seeing people sent grandma's and grandfather who's been here for

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01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:39,840
Speaker 5: fifty years, you know, who paid taxes and worked hard,

1531
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:44,719
Speaker 5: set off to Salvador places they know nothing about seeing

1532
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:49,640
Speaker 5: this happen. Probably you know, touches many of them, but

1533
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:51,679
Speaker 5: I think, you know, you would do better to have

1534
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:55,880
Speaker 5: have them on and ask them directly, because this is

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01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 5: one thing, the one thing about that vote that we

1536
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:03,600
Speaker 5: always we see poule and we we we hear of

1537
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:06,640
Speaker 5: like you just talked about Jersey, we hear about the results.

1538
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:09,639
Speaker 5: But you know it's rare we sit down and talk

1539
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 5: to us and tell us what's up? Why where is

1540
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 5: it coming from? What do you see? You know, because

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01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you right now the reaction in this

1542
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 5: country from white supremacists and the idea which is, you

1543
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 5: know what the Republican Party has allowed est party to be.

1544
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:29,200
Speaker 5: It has a lot to do with the fact that

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01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 5: they can count and in some areas, you know, all

1546
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 5: the minorities together represent some some balance, some parity with

1547
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 5: their power. You did what I'm saying, and so they

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01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:45,599
Speaker 5: have this idea of replacement theory that Latinos are going

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01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:49,639
Speaker 5: to outbaby them. Well in some areas they are because

1550
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 5: you know, you know, they're they're they're having three and

1551
01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 5: four and five kids and they're doing what they should

1552
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 5: do to try to, you know, to make sure that

1553
01:28:57,520 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 5: they're educated and they're working hard, and they're making these

1554
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 5: things happen, and they're not being able to be assimilated

1555
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:06,680
Speaker 5: by the idea of I think this is my you know,

1556
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 5: personal idea that this is a stratification. You know, that

1557
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:12,320
Speaker 5: there's a place for them in one of the wrongs.

1558
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:14,880
Speaker 5: They don't consider that. They're not they're not even looking

1559
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:19,040
Speaker 5: in those directions. And so what does this this government do.

1560
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:23,360
Speaker 5: It literally begins to import white people from South Africa.

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01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 5: It is a remarkable thing to watch. It's you know,

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01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 5: in order to balance and say, okay, let's go find

1563
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:31,800
Speaker 5: a place. I mean, the only place you go get

1564
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:35,000
Speaker 5: that that is more steally in that direction that they

1565
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 5: want to go will probably be Russia.

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01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:37,439
Speaker 10: You know what I'm saying.

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01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:40,639
Speaker 5: They just but they're already coming. Russians aren't getting deported.

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01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:44,960
Speaker 5: You ain't seen Russians lined up and handcuffed and sent

1569
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:50,439
Speaker 5: back to Moscow or or or Leningrad or Stalingrad or

1570
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:54,640
Speaker 5: you know, they're not. They're not being you know, Saint Petersburg,

1571
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:59,519
Speaker 5: they're not being shipped back. They're they're blocked in here.

1572
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:04,200
Speaker 5: So I just I think that that that the Latino

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01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:08,360
Speaker 5: vote is something. It's broad and it has many different

1574
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:10,640
Speaker 5: moving parts, and it may be time. It definitely is

1575
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:13,519
Speaker 5: time for us to begin the process of asking them,

1576
01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:16,760
Speaker 5: you know directly, well, what what happened here? You know

1577
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:18,080
Speaker 5: what happened with you and Trump?

1578
01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:19,160
Speaker 4: Right and all?

1579
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:20,800
Speaker 1: I thought right there, because you're right. You don't see

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01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:22,960
Speaker 1: I say, at Brighton Beach down in Brooklyn or there,

1581
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:24,960
Speaker 1: which is a Russian Alan clay. We don't see them

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01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:28,560
Speaker 1: down there, but they're in East LA looking for Hispanics.

1583
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:30,559
Speaker 1: But I got, we got, we got to take the traffic,

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01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:31,880
Speaker 1: weather and we come back. Well, let me ask you

1585
01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 1: this question. We go to the traffic, Uh, Brandon, Donald

1586
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:38,280
Speaker 1: Trump is threatening to go into Nigeria, you know, s

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01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:40,519
Speaker 1: old country. He likes to call the Nigeria one of

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01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:42,519
Speaker 1: the s old countries. I want to get your thoughts

1589
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:45,240
Speaker 1: on that. And let's but let's check the traffic and weather,

1590
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:47,439
Speaker 1: not different cities real quick. Three away from the top

1591
01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:49,519
Speaker 1: of our family, I guess this political blog of Brandon.

1592
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:51,400
Speaker 1: You want to join this discussion. Reach out to us

1593
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:54,599
Speaker 1: at eight hundred and full five zero seventy eight seventy six,

1594
01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:56,559
Speaker 1: and we take calls next after the traffic and weather

1595
01:30:56,640 --> 01:31:00,479
Speaker 1: together and grand Rising family. Thanks rolling in the morning,

1596
01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 1: Thanks for staying your week with us. I guess this

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01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:05,720
Speaker 1: political blog of Brandon. I'm gona Tellion to speak with

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01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:10,400
Speaker 1: a movie maker, Amadeus Christ about his latest project. But Brandon,

1599
01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:13,200
Speaker 1: before we left for the trafficking weather, I was asking

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01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:16,080
Speaker 1: you about Nigeria Donald Trump. He said he sits on Nigeria.

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01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:27,600
Speaker 5: Why I'm not entirely sure because he's not entirely sane.

1602
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:36,040
Speaker 5: But I can tell you this, Molly, Kina, Fasso, Niger, Senegal,

1603
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:43,559
Speaker 5: Chad and the Ivory Coast, they've all cut ties with France.

1604
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:48,519
Speaker 5: This has all happened in the last five years, starting

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01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:54,360
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty. The CFA franc which is which was

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01:31:54,400 --> 01:32:00,519
Speaker 5: forced upon these countries to be their currency, the way

1607
01:32:00,840 --> 01:32:03,920
Speaker 5: for the central or for some of the central banking

1608
01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:08,760
Speaker 5: in Europe to control many of the resources there. And

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01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:15,200
Speaker 5: what you're seeing is these nations are rising to control

1610
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:20,360
Speaker 5: their own futures, their own destinies, through their through their resources.

1611
01:32:22,240 --> 01:32:25,280
Speaker 5: Nigeria has the largest army out of all of them.

1612
01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:34,720
Speaker 5: I believe it's the most militarily advanced. You know, I

1613
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:37,000
Speaker 5: don't know if anybody's ever asked themselves again, how do

1614
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:40,320
Speaker 5: these countries, these European nations. You know, they don't make,

1615
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:45,960
Speaker 5: they don't manufacture at levels of the United States, let

1616
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:49,600
Speaker 5: alone China. So how do they Well, one of the

1617
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 5: ways is is they either own, usurp or control many

1618
01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:59,360
Speaker 5: of the raw natural resources coming out of Africa. And

1619
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 5: so I would say that the long play is to

1620
01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:09,400
Speaker 5: probably go after the strongest military presence. But who knows,

1621
01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:13,559
Speaker 5: there may be there may be some money in you know,

1622
01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:17,760
Speaker 5: running bullets there. I don't know. It's it's you know,

1623
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 5: that's what's happening when you have this kind of cronyism

1624
01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:23,160
Speaker 5: that's going on in our government right now. It's like,

1625
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:25,920
Speaker 5: you know, you don't know what's true, and even when

1626
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:28,479
Speaker 5: it shows up, it still may not be right.

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01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:31,640
Speaker 1: And Nigeria's Africa's the most populous country as well, the

1628
01:33:31,640 --> 01:33:34,200
Speaker 1: more people in Nigier than any other African states, so

1629
01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:36,880
Speaker 1: that that's true, and you know, and they've got several

1630
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:39,360
Speaker 1: billionaires as well. The richest black man the planet is

1631
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:44,280
Speaker 1: in Nigeria. And so anyway, Brandon, I want to thank

1632
01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:46,280
Speaker 1: you for sharing your thoughts with us this morning, and

1633
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:49,040
Speaker 1: the folks want to reach youther, they go through me again.

1634
01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:51,680
Speaker 5: Or they can come they come through you, Carl, you

1635
01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:55,720
Speaker 5: know where to send them to, to my uh my

1636
01:33:56,640 --> 01:33:59,280
Speaker 5: Instagram page which is nightest one n I G H

1637
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:04,639
Speaker 5: t U S one the number one, and from there

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01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:05,519
Speaker 5: we'll be kicking it over.

1639
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:06,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1640
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:08,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, Brandon, we didn't talk about that because you're out

1641
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:13,599
Speaker 1: there in that burn area Pasadena Aladena areas. Is things

1642
01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:14,719
Speaker 1: back to normally yet?

1643
01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:18,600
Speaker 5: No, they're not back to normal, but homes are being built.

1644
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:21,800
Speaker 5: But I have a suspicion that where a lot of

1645
01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:24,200
Speaker 5: homes are going up and they're not being you know,

1646
01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:26,759
Speaker 5: crowded into were some homes are going up, it's probably

1647
01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:32,959
Speaker 5: uh not individuals or not families rebuilding, probably new buyers,

1648
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:37,720
Speaker 5: and that may signal something else from the presence of

1649
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:39,360
Speaker 5: private equity firms.

1650
01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:42,320
Speaker 1: All right, something we'll talk about next time. Thanks Brandon,

1651
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:43,680
Speaker 1: Thanks for sharing your expertise with.

1652
01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:44,280
Speaker 4: Us this morning.

1653
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:46,160
Speaker 5: All right, take care of Carl PEF.

1654
01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:50,000
Speaker 1: Brandon and he's a political blogger. And now we turn

1655
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:54,519
Speaker 1: attention to movie maker Amadeus christ grand Rising. Welcome back

1656
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:57,000
Speaker 1: to the program.

1657
01:34:57,160 --> 01:34:59,679
Speaker 17: Yes, sir, thank you for having me back. Appreciate it.

1658
01:35:00,160 --> 01:35:01,920
Speaker 1: And many of you probably know him from a series

1659
01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:04,479
Speaker 1: Out of Darkness series. But let me ask you this, though,

1660
01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:07,639
Speaker 1: how did you get in become a filmmaker? Because you're

1661
01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:10,879
Speaker 1: not in Hollywood, You're in the Bay Area, San Francisco, Oakland,

1662
01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:13,400
Speaker 1: Bay Area. How did you get involved in becoming a filmmaker?

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01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:22,040
Speaker 17: I got into filmmaking kind of by accident. I started

1664
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 17: off as a musician, as a rapper. And I don't

1665
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:33,679
Speaker 17: know if you know anything about the Bay Area music scene,

1666
01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:39,080
Speaker 17: but particularly in the nineties early two thousands, the Bay

1667
01:35:39,160 --> 01:35:46,600
Speaker 17: Area music scene, the hip hop scene was really strong, independent.

1668
01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:47,280
Speaker 10: A lot of.

1669
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:52,559
Speaker 17: Bay Area rappers were selling tapes and CDs out of

1670
01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:57,640
Speaker 17: the back of their trunks. The Bay Area Oakland to

1671
01:35:57,680 --> 01:36:05,839
Speaker 17: be specific, has a real wrong revolutionary spirit, go getters spirit,

1672
01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:13,200
Speaker 17: very independent. So I grew up in the nineties early

1673
01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:16,960
Speaker 17: two thousands as a young kid kind of seeing all

1674
01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:21,960
Speaker 17: of these rappers sell CDs and tapes out of the

1675
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:27,960
Speaker 17: trunk of their cars. When I was a big Tupac fan,

1676
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:33,360
Speaker 17: and when Tupac passed in nineteen ninety six, I was

1677
01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:37,960
Speaker 17: about fifteen years old at the time, and I saw

1678
01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:44,320
Speaker 17: the impact that Tupac had worldwide on the youth. And

1679
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:48,519
Speaker 17: when he passed. I made a decision in my mind

1680
01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:54,160
Speaker 17: that I was going to be a revolutionary. Fast forward

1681
01:36:54,160 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 17: a little bit later, early two thousands, when I decided

1682
01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:03,679
Speaker 17: to go into music, I kind of followed the same

1683
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:06,879
Speaker 17: path as all of the rest of the Bay Area rappers.

1684
01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:12,519
Speaker 17: I was totally independent, doing everything on my own. Started

1685
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:19,360
Speaker 17: off wrapping. The studio that I went to got shut down,

1686
01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:23,360
Speaker 17: and the guy who ran the studio, he said, you know,

1687
01:37:23,400 --> 01:37:28,040
Speaker 17: I'm closing the studio down, but I want to I

1688
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:30,320
Speaker 17: don't want to leave you hanging. Let me, I'm going

1689
01:37:30,400 --> 01:37:32,559
Speaker 17: to tell you this drum machine. It was an NPC

1690
01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:36,280
Speaker 17: two thousand, so he sold me this drum machine for

1691
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:42,559
Speaker 17: about one thousand dollars. Bought the drum machine, started making

1692
01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:46,320
Speaker 17: my own beats, and I had never now I'm entering

1693
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:51,200
Speaker 17: the world of production. So after about a month or

1694
01:37:51,200 --> 01:37:53,680
Speaker 17: so messing around with this drum machine, I said, you

1695
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:55,840
Speaker 17: know what, I'm going to have to really go to

1696
01:37:55,880 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 17: school to learn how to do this perfon professionally. And

1697
01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:04,160
Speaker 17: I just happened to see a listen to an ad

1698
01:38:04,160 --> 01:38:08,280
Speaker 17: on the radio about a music school on Bryant Street

1699
01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:13,639
Speaker 17: downtown San Francisco, and it was ran by a guy

1700
01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:17,960
Speaker 17: named David Gibson, And the thing that struck me was

1701
01:38:18,040 --> 01:38:22,040
Speaker 17: he let you do payments, monthly payments.

1702
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:23,080
Speaker 5: The school was.

1703
01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:25,360
Speaker 17: About eight thousand dollars a semester, but he lets you

1704
01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:27,559
Speaker 17: do monthly payments at about one hundred dollars a month.

1705
01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:30,840
Speaker 17: So I said, okay, that's something I could do. So

1706
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:37,000
Speaker 17: I went to the school, learned music theory, learned production,

1707
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:43,320
Speaker 17: learn how to mix and master with pro tools. The

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01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:47,960
Speaker 17: second semester was music business. There's a guy named C.

1709
01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:52,000
Speaker 17: Michael Bray. He was from Harlem, and he taught us

1710
01:38:52,160 --> 01:38:58,719
Speaker 17: music business, really like teaching us like war strategy, how

1711
01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:06,879
Speaker 17: to you know, strategized, use the different market and promote

1712
01:39:06,880 --> 01:39:15,000
Speaker 17: our music. So I started really getting serious about music.

1713
01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:21,839
Speaker 17: Started my own record label based out of Oakland, started

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01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:27,400
Speaker 17: releasing my own music. Took on a whole bunch of

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01:39:27,439 --> 01:39:34,479
Speaker 17: other artists. So now I'm rapping, i am producing, making beats,

1716
01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:41,400
Speaker 17: I'm mixing, I'm mastering. And one day I had a

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01:39:41,400 --> 01:39:46,400
Speaker 17: good friend, actually he was my photographer, and he had

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01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:49,800
Speaker 17: a friend by the name of Yap, and Yap was

1719
01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:53,960
Speaker 17: putting together a film distributed by Warner Brothers, and it

1720
01:39:54,040 --> 01:39:57,800
Speaker 17: was called Sideways. It was about the side shows the

1721
01:39:57,800 --> 01:40:01,760
Speaker 17: street takeovers in Oakland, and he asked me to do these.

1722
01:40:02,479 --> 01:40:06,880
Speaker 17: He asked me to do the intro, and he asked

1723
01:40:06,920 --> 01:40:10,120
Speaker 17: me to write it. And I wrote the intro and

1724
01:40:10,160 --> 01:40:11,880
Speaker 17: then he said, you know what, I just want you

1725
01:40:11,960 --> 01:40:14,600
Speaker 17: to come and record it. So I went to his

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01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:20,639
Speaker 17: studio and I'm using pro Tools with primarily an audio program,

1727
01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:24,800
Speaker 17: but I saw him using a program called final Cut Pro,

1728
01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:29,160
Speaker 17: which is how to edit film. So I said, that

1729
01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:33,120
Speaker 17: looks very similar to Pro Tools. I said, what is that.

1730
01:40:33,160 --> 01:40:37,040
Speaker 17: He said, oh, this is how I edit movies. So

1731
01:40:37,120 --> 01:40:42,000
Speaker 17: that kind of stuck with me. Not too long after that,

1732
01:40:43,280 --> 01:40:45,320
Speaker 17: I'm in the studio one day and I get a

1733
01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:51,760
Speaker 17: call from Google. I was unemployed at the time, just

1734
01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:56,760
Speaker 17: found out that I was getting ready to have a son.

1735
01:40:58,720 --> 01:41:01,439
Speaker 17: I get a call from Google and they say, hey,

1736
01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:04,160
Speaker 17: you want to work. We're heading up. We're starting a

1737
01:41:04,200 --> 01:41:07,200
Speaker 17: program called the Hardware Depot program. This is at Google

1738
01:41:07,240 --> 01:41:11,599
Speaker 17: headquarters in Mountain View, California. They said, we want you

1739
01:41:11,680 --> 01:41:13,840
Speaker 17: to We came across your resume. We want you to

1740
01:41:13,880 --> 01:41:19,960
Speaker 17: come on and head this hardware Depot program. I said, sure,

1741
01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:23,200
Speaker 17: I needed the job. I needed some steady income at

1742
01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:26,000
Speaker 17: the time. So within three days I was on the

1743
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:31,800
Speaker 17: Google campus and that completely changed my life being around

1744
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:37,320
Speaker 17: some of the smartest people in the world. The environment

1745
01:41:37,400 --> 01:41:42,360
Speaker 17: at Google was just highly innovative. They were developing Android

1746
01:41:42,360 --> 01:41:45,559
Speaker 17: at the time. But make a long story short, being

1747
01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:49,960
Speaker 17: at Google, I figured out that, you know, I got

1748
01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:53,400
Speaker 17: to get serious about my life. It inspired me to

1749
01:41:53,479 --> 01:41:57,599
Speaker 17: go back to college. I had went to San Jose

1750
01:41:57,800 --> 01:42:01,640
Speaker 17: State about eight years prior to this, but ended up

1751
01:42:01,720 --> 01:42:04,680
Speaker 17: dropping out because I wanted to make video games but

1752
01:42:04,720 --> 01:42:07,000
Speaker 17: they didn't have a video game program. So I kind

1753
01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:10,240
Speaker 17: of dropped out of San Jose State in order to

1754
01:42:10,280 --> 01:42:14,479
Speaker 17: pursue my rap career. So now eight years later, I'm

1755
01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:17,600
Speaker 17: at Google. I'm inspired to go back to school, but

1756
01:42:18,120 --> 01:42:20,800
Speaker 17: I didn't necessarily know what I wanted to get my

1757
01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:26,000
Speaker 17: degree in. So I'm browsing through the course catalog and

1758
01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:31,479
Speaker 17: I come across, well, let me back up when I

1759
01:42:33,479 --> 01:42:35,880
Speaker 17: eight years prior, when I went to San Jose State

1760
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:40,439
Speaker 17: and I dropped out. I actually got disqualified because of

1761
01:42:40,439 --> 01:42:43,400
Speaker 17: my grades because I just kind of lost focus. So

1762
01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:47,000
Speaker 17: when I applied for re enrollment, they made me take

1763
01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:53,360
Speaker 17: to community college classes. So I'm browsing through the course catalog,

1764
01:42:54,040 --> 01:42:57,120
Speaker 17: didn't know what I wanted to major in I see film.

1765
01:42:57,439 --> 01:43:00,280
Speaker 17: I said, oh, that sounds interesting. If I take film,

1766
01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:04,680
Speaker 17: then I'll be able to shoot my own music videos.

1767
01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:08,559
Speaker 17: Still doing music at the time, and the music video

1768
01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:11,679
Speaker 17: component was the only component that I thought I was missing.

1769
01:43:11,720 --> 01:43:15,080
Speaker 17: So I said, hey, you know, if I take this

1770
01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:18,519
Speaker 17: film and I've become a film director, I can shoot

1771
01:43:18,520 --> 01:43:20,720
Speaker 17: my own video. I won't have to pay anybody three

1772
01:43:20,720 --> 01:43:23,360
Speaker 17: to five thousand dollars to shoot a video. So that

1773
01:43:23,439 --> 01:43:26,200
Speaker 17: was that's how I ended up in the film. So

1774
01:43:26,760 --> 01:43:30,000
Speaker 17: I go and take the first class at the community college.

1775
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:34,519
Speaker 17: It's an editing class. So we're all at the board.

1776
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:37,360
Speaker 17: It's a big, long AVID board, looks like a big

1777
01:43:37,479 --> 01:43:40,759
Speaker 17: SSL board. So everybody's at the board. The whole class

1778
01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:42,640
Speaker 17: is at the board. This is probably our third or

1779
01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:45,679
Speaker 17: fourth day. Teacher gives us a whole bunch of footage

1780
01:43:46,640 --> 01:43:49,280
Speaker 17: the edit. He gives us a hard drive to edit

1781
01:43:49,320 --> 01:43:54,000
Speaker 17: a whole bunch of footage. So I enter the hard

1782
01:43:54,080 --> 01:43:58,880
Speaker 17: drive in about four or five maybe maybe ten, I

1783
01:43:58,920 --> 01:44:01,960
Speaker 17: say the most ten minute I was done. I go

1784
01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:07,640
Speaker 17: back to the teacher instructor. I say, you want to

1785
01:44:07,680 --> 01:44:10,040
Speaker 17: come take a look at this. He says, oh, you

1786
01:44:10,120 --> 01:44:12,519
Speaker 17: need the footage and let me get your footage. And

1787
01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:15,200
Speaker 17: I said, no, no, no, I'm done. He's like, you couldn't,

1788
01:44:15,400 --> 01:44:18,400
Speaker 17: you can't be you can't possibly be done. He's like,

1789
01:44:18,439 --> 01:44:21,160
Speaker 17: maybe you don't understand what the assignment was. And I said, no,

1790
01:44:21,240 --> 01:44:24,760
Speaker 17: I'm finished. So we go take a look. The whole

1791
01:44:24,760 --> 01:44:31,320
Speaker 17: class is looking and I had edited a music video.

1792
01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:34,439
Speaker 17: I don't wanted to to a Kanye West song.

1793
01:44:34,520 --> 01:44:34,800
Speaker 5: I can't.

1794
01:44:34,840 --> 01:44:38,559
Speaker 17: I think it was the coldest winner that song he did.

1795
01:44:39,200 --> 01:44:42,000
Speaker 17: The teacher looks at me. The whole class is looking

1796
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:45,240
Speaker 17: at me. The teacher pulls me aside. He said, he says,

1797
01:44:45,320 --> 01:44:49,599
Speaker 17: why why are you in this class? And I said, uh,

1798
01:44:49,720 --> 01:44:51,760
Speaker 17: this is at re quiet class I have to take

1799
01:44:52,960 --> 01:44:55,360
Speaker 17: to re enroll. He said, well, you can say if

1800
01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:57,840
Speaker 17: you want to, but you know, I don't think you

1801
01:44:57,920 --> 01:44:59,960
Speaker 17: need to take this class. You pretty much got the skill,

1802
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:03,240
Speaker 17: said already. So that's when I kind of knew that

1803
01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:08,519
Speaker 17: I had a natural ability for editing, film editing, audio editing.

1804
01:45:10,040 --> 01:45:13,920
Speaker 17: I want you to end up getting enrolled at donay hold.

1805
01:45:13,720 --> 01:45:14,200
Speaker 7: That thought right.

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01:45:15,160 --> 01:45:16,960
Speaker 1: We got to take a short break here, so hold

1807
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:19,280
Speaker 1: that thought right there. Yeah, seventeen minutes after the top

1808
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:22,479
Speaker 1: of the family you just checking in and wonder who's speaking.

1809
01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:25,760
Speaker 1: That's Amadis Christ. He's if you may be familiar with

1810
01:45:25,800 --> 01:45:28,360
Speaker 1: his work more than his name. Out of Darkness, that's

1811
01:45:28,360 --> 01:45:30,640
Speaker 1: serious that he did back in twenty fifteen. He's going

1812
01:45:30,680 --> 01:45:33,919
Speaker 1: to tell us where he got the inspiration to do that,

1813
01:45:33,920 --> 01:45:36,640
Speaker 1: that movie, that film, if you want, and we're going

1814
01:45:36,680 --> 01:45:38,599
Speaker 1: to talk to you more about his Ladies project as well.

1815
01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:40,400
Speaker 1: As I mentioned, it's seventeen minutes off the top down.

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01:45:40,439 --> 01:45:41,680
Speaker 1: We got to take a short break and we come

1817
01:45:41,720 --> 01:45:43,320
Speaker 1: back though. You can speak to him if you want

1818
01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:45,920
Speaker 1: to eight hundred and four or five zero seventy eight

1819
01:45:46,280 --> 01:45:48,920
Speaker 1: seventy six, and we'll take your phone calls next and

1820
01:45:49,040 --> 01:45:51,200
Speaker 1: grund Rising Family facs are staying with us on this

1821
01:45:51,240 --> 01:45:53,040
Speaker 1: Monday morning, and thanks for starting your week with us.

1822
01:45:53,080 --> 01:45:54,760
Speaker 1: At twenty minutes after the top of that with our

1823
01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:57,880
Speaker 1: guest filmmaker am A Dais Christ. You're more familiar with

1824
01:45:57,920 --> 01:46:00,479
Speaker 1: his work. His work is that Out of Darkness seriously

1825
01:46:00,479 --> 01:46:02,960
Speaker 1: that he did back in I think around twenty fifteen,

1826
01:46:03,080 --> 01:46:06,320
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, sometime around there. And he's got a new project.

1827
01:46:06,320 --> 01:46:08,719
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about his latest project he's working

1828
01:46:08,720 --> 01:46:12,000
Speaker 1: on now. It's called Heavy is the Crown. So you

1829
01:46:12,160 --> 01:46:14,840
Speaker 1: just heard his journey to how to became a filmmaker

1830
01:46:14,920 --> 01:46:16,880
Speaker 1: start off as a rapper. I did not know that

1831
01:46:17,120 --> 01:46:19,080
Speaker 1: there's a lot of rapper, good rappers that come out

1832
01:46:19,080 --> 01:46:20,840
Speaker 1: of the Bay Area. I think about too short. You

1833
01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:23,439
Speaker 1: talked about selling the cassettes out of the back of

1834
01:46:23,439 --> 01:46:24,559
Speaker 1: the cars back in the day.

1835
01:46:24,760 --> 01:46:25,400
Speaker 4: He was one of those.

1836
01:46:25,439 --> 01:46:28,400
Speaker 1: And everybody knows Hammer mc hammer or just Hammer as

1837
01:46:28,439 --> 01:46:31,080
Speaker 1: he's known right now, came out of the Bay Area,

1838
01:46:31,280 --> 01:46:34,759
Speaker 1: San Francisco, Oakland area as well. So I'm a dais

1839
01:46:35,200 --> 01:46:36,880
Speaker 1: tell us, well, I'll tell you, well, let me take

1840
01:46:36,920 --> 01:46:38,320
Speaker 1: a call for you before you tell us about the

1841
01:46:38,320 --> 01:46:40,320
Speaker 1: new project you're working on, because Gene wants to speaker.

1842
01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:42,559
Speaker 1: He's online one grand rising junior.

1843
01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:48,559
Speaker 18: I'madeas christ Yeah, Graham Rosie and much success to you

1844
01:46:48,640 --> 01:46:52,000
Speaker 18: of other amadeus. Yeah, go a s out of the

1845
01:46:52,400 --> 01:46:55,960
Speaker 18: Oakland area. Are you believed with the with the carea

1846
01:46:56,120 --> 01:46:59,559
Speaker 18: Neil that name ring a Bell. She went to NYU

1847
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:02,160
Speaker 18: and she's a filmmakers. She made the film, uh, the

1848
01:47:02,240 --> 01:47:04,679
Speaker 18: Last Black Man in San Francisco.

1849
01:47:04,760 --> 01:47:09,200
Speaker 5: And she's yeah, yes, my niece man.

1850
01:47:09,280 --> 01:47:09,639
Speaker 11: And so.

1851
01:47:11,320 --> 01:47:14,240
Speaker 18: You know my story basically is that's how I similar

1852
01:47:14,280 --> 01:47:15,760
Speaker 18: to you as my son was being born, and I

1853
01:47:16,160 --> 01:47:19,400
Speaker 18: literally went blind when I was learning how to edit

1854
01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:22,920
Speaker 18: uh you know, video, and but I continue to do

1855
01:47:23,000 --> 01:47:27,160
Speaker 18: it to do it, uh you know, editing the audio

1856
01:47:27,479 --> 01:47:31,080
Speaker 18: and you know, I edit my own podcast and mainly

1857
01:47:31,120 --> 01:47:33,599
Speaker 18: because you know, the content is being stolen when you

1858
01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:36,120
Speaker 18: upload it. And if you don't have you, if you're

1859
01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:40,080
Speaker 18: not producing it independently and keeping that you know you,

1860
01:47:40,120 --> 01:47:42,720
Speaker 18: they steal your content, you know the bottom line. So

1861
01:47:43,040 --> 01:47:45,639
Speaker 18: again I'm just calling in just to chime in, uh

1862
01:47:45,720 --> 01:47:49,080
Speaker 18: and wishing you must must much success. And okay, just

1863
01:47:49,120 --> 01:47:52,160
Speaker 18: another my my ex wife is a Connaway and that

1864
01:47:52,240 --> 01:47:56,000
Speaker 18: Spiked and uh she's part of the Connaway family in Baltimore,

1865
01:47:56,439 --> 01:47:59,160
Speaker 18: and that Spike Lee's wife is also a Connaway. So

1866
01:47:59,200 --> 01:48:01,719
Speaker 18: I'm connected, you know that way. I get real excited

1867
01:48:01,760 --> 01:48:07,000
Speaker 18: when I hear people like you, you know, influencing uh

1868
01:48:07,680 --> 01:48:09,760
Speaker 18: people in our community in a positive way.

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01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:10,960
Speaker 11: So thank you very much, sir.

1870
01:48:12,760 --> 01:48:16,439
Speaker 17: Appreciate it. Man reach out to me at Amadad's christ

1871
01:48:16,520 --> 01:48:18,599
Speaker 17: on on Instagram. I would love to talk.

1872
01:48:18,439 --> 01:48:22,679
Speaker 18: To you, okay, So okay, so on Instagram, I'll keep that, okay,

1873
01:48:22,680 --> 01:48:24,160
Speaker 18: because I could just press my button.

1874
01:48:24,240 --> 01:48:25,080
Speaker 17: I the record show.

1875
01:48:25,280 --> 01:48:27,719
Speaker 18: So yeah, man, good luck you keep telling your story.

1876
01:48:27,760 --> 01:48:30,639
Speaker 17: I love you man, peace, thank you, thank you, thank

1877
01:48:30,640 --> 01:48:31,280
Speaker 17: you appreciating.

1878
01:48:32,280 --> 01:48:35,400
Speaker 1: So how did you get the inspiration for out of Darkness?

1879
01:48:37,200 --> 01:48:42,320
Speaker 17: Okay, So when I when I got into film, I'm

1880
01:48:42,320 --> 01:48:47,600
Speaker 17: at Finos State. I am I had to take a

1881
01:48:47,720 --> 01:48:52,000
Speaker 17: radio station class. So I'm taking a radio station class

1882
01:48:52,080 --> 01:48:57,240
Speaker 17: and one of our records, well, what we would do

1883
01:48:57,320 --> 01:49:00,439
Speaker 17: was we would contact all of the rappers would come

1884
01:49:00,439 --> 01:49:04,000
Speaker 17: out to the Bay Area, and we would go to

1885
01:49:04,040 --> 01:49:07,919
Speaker 17: their show and interviewed them. So that's how I started

1886
01:49:08,040 --> 01:49:11,080
Speaker 17: interviewing people. So I would literally be on stage with

1887
01:49:11,120 --> 01:49:14,880
Speaker 17: the rappers. Kendrick Lamar was one of the first ones.

1888
01:49:14,920 --> 01:49:17,479
Speaker 17: We did his first headline show in Oakland. I was

1889
01:49:17,520 --> 01:49:21,040
Speaker 17: on stage with him, went backstage after the show, interviewed

1890
01:49:21,120 --> 01:49:25,600
Speaker 17: him and when numerous artists from the Cool Kids to

1891
01:49:25,720 --> 01:49:30,439
Speaker 17: Dom Kennedy to Ninth Wonder to ab so just this

1892
01:49:30,600 --> 01:49:35,160
Speaker 17: was around twenty eleven twenty twelve, probably like the last

1893
01:49:35,200 --> 01:49:39,640
Speaker 17: major golden era in hip hop. So that kind of

1894
01:49:39,720 --> 01:49:44,760
Speaker 17: segued for me into doing music videos. I hooked up

1895
01:49:44,800 --> 01:49:48,200
Speaker 17: with a rapper called Locksmith out here in the Bay

1896
01:49:48,280 --> 01:49:51,840
Speaker 17: Area who's really really good as a close close friend

1897
01:49:51,880 --> 01:49:56,639
Speaker 17: of mine, so we started working together. We did about

1898
01:49:56,760 --> 01:50:01,000
Speaker 17: two or three videos. Two We did more than that

1899
01:50:01,240 --> 01:50:03,600
Speaker 17: over the course of the time, but one of the

1900
01:50:03,680 --> 01:50:06,519
Speaker 17: videos ended up getting on Remote TV. Another video ended

1901
01:50:06,600 --> 01:50:12,640
Speaker 17: up getting on MTV, so that, you know, shoot. I

1902
01:50:12,680 --> 01:50:15,960
Speaker 17: shot music videos for a long time, maybe about two

1903
01:50:16,040 --> 01:50:21,000
Speaker 17: or three years before I started to feel that. I

1904
01:50:21,040 --> 01:50:24,080
Speaker 17: started to feel a little restricted dealing with these different

1905
01:50:24,080 --> 01:50:26,320
Speaker 17: a and rs at these record labels, like telling me

1906
01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:29,800
Speaker 17: to make these certain cuts or take stuff out, and

1907
01:50:29,920 --> 01:50:32,120
Speaker 17: you know, I got I got kind of tired of

1908
01:50:34,360 --> 01:50:41,640
Speaker 17: having my creativity curated, so to speak. So I decided

1909
01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:44,640
Speaker 17: that I was going to do a film. You know,

1910
01:50:44,720 --> 01:50:48,280
Speaker 17: just back to the independent Bay Area spirit. I want

1911
01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:50,320
Speaker 17: to do my own things. So I decided to do

1912
01:50:50,360 --> 01:50:52,559
Speaker 17: a film. I just didn't know what it was going

1913
01:50:52,640 --> 01:50:55,599
Speaker 17: to be about. So I decided to do a film

1914
01:50:55,600 --> 01:51:01,800
Speaker 17: on African history. I saw a video on YouTube. I

1915
01:51:01,800 --> 01:51:03,600
Speaker 17: didn't know who he was at the time, but it

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01:51:03,640 --> 01:51:07,080
Speaker 17: was doctor Claude Anderson, and I remember the title of

1917
01:51:07,160 --> 01:51:10,960
Speaker 17: the video. It said black people. It was all in

1918
01:51:11,040 --> 01:51:13,639
Speaker 17: all caps. Black people watched this, you are in trouble.

1919
01:51:14,520 --> 01:51:19,360
Speaker 17: So I watched the video blown away. So I decided

1920
01:51:19,400 --> 01:51:22,240
Speaker 17: to do a movie about how we got to where

1921
01:51:22,240 --> 01:51:26,360
Speaker 17: we are now, just kind of going through a basic timeline.

1922
01:51:28,120 --> 01:51:31,320
Speaker 18: So the the.

1923
01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:34,760
Speaker 17: Original concept was just going to be about post slavery,

1924
01:51:35,240 --> 01:51:37,680
Speaker 17: but then I wanted to include a section of the

1925
01:51:37,720 --> 01:51:40,160
Speaker 17: film that was going to be where we were prior

1926
01:51:40,280 --> 01:51:44,040
Speaker 17: to slavery. And boy did I go down a rabbit hole.

1927
01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:48,639
Speaker 17: Went down a rabbit hole, got introduced to doctor John

1928
01:51:48,680 --> 01:51:54,040
Speaker 17: Henry Clark, got introduced to Amos Wilson, got introduced to

1929
01:51:54,280 --> 01:51:58,840
Speaker 17: doctor Ivan van Certema, got introduced to George gm James

1930
01:51:58,880 --> 01:52:08,200
Speaker 17: Renoko rash Be, Anthony Browner, Professor Kabba common A, Professor

1931
01:52:08,280 --> 01:52:11,920
Speaker 17: James Small. So I'm getting introduced to all of these people,

1932
01:52:11,960 --> 01:52:16,320
Speaker 17: and I'm getting all of this knowledge, and I said, Okay,

1933
01:52:16,439 --> 01:52:18,240
Speaker 17: this is what the film is going to be about.

1934
01:52:18,479 --> 01:52:21,680
Speaker 17: It's gonna be about where we were prior to slavery,

1935
01:52:21,720 --> 01:52:23,840
Speaker 17: and the slavery part is just going to be a

1936
01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:28,519
Speaker 17: small portion of it. So what I did was I

1937
01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:30,400
Speaker 17: didn't have a lot of money at the time. Keep

1938
01:52:30,439 --> 01:52:34,080
Speaker 17: in mind, I'm a young college student, and I would

1939
01:52:34,120 --> 01:52:38,160
Speaker 17: just go I made a list of everybody who I

1940
01:52:38,160 --> 01:52:39,800
Speaker 17: wanted in the film, and I would just look at

1941
01:52:39,800 --> 01:52:43,160
Speaker 17: their schedules and you know, Fortunately for me, the Bay

1942
01:52:43,200 --> 01:52:45,479
Speaker 17: Area is a place where they would come. You know,

1943
01:52:45,479 --> 01:52:48,000
Speaker 17: a lot of people come frequently. So I would just

1944
01:52:48,040 --> 01:52:50,760
Speaker 17: look and see, Okay, this such and such person is

1945
01:52:50,800 --> 01:52:54,000
Speaker 17: going to be here April, this person is going to

1946
01:52:54,040 --> 01:52:56,519
Speaker 17: be here May, this person is going to be here June.

1947
01:52:57,360 --> 01:53:00,879
Speaker 17: So I found a place called Pan African City Alive,

1948
01:53:01,840 --> 01:53:05,840
Speaker 17: which was in Sunnyvale, California, not too far from San Jose,

1949
01:53:05,960 --> 01:53:08,439
Speaker 17: where I was at at the time. The first person

1950
01:53:08,479 --> 01:53:12,200
Speaker 17: that I met was brother Renoko Bashidi went to his lecture.

1951
01:53:12,240 --> 01:53:15,000
Speaker 17: This was the first conscious lecture that I went to,

1952
01:53:17,120 --> 01:53:23,599
Speaker 17: really enjoyed it. Interviewed him. The second person who came, well,

1953
01:53:23,680 --> 01:53:27,760
Speaker 17: two people at the same time was Anthony Browder and

1954
01:53:27,920 --> 01:53:33,560
Speaker 17: his daughter Atlantis Browder. I was blown away with Atlantis's presentation.

1955
01:53:33,840 --> 01:53:40,240
Speaker 17: Interviewed her first, then I had her get her father

1956
01:53:40,360 --> 01:53:43,200
Speaker 17: to do the I was nervous get her peak, but

1957
01:53:43,320 --> 01:53:46,880
Speaker 17: Atlanta's got the interview with me and Tony, so you know,

1958
01:53:46,920 --> 01:53:48,600
Speaker 17: I just asked Tony, let me get this, let me

1959
01:53:48,640 --> 01:53:51,360
Speaker 17: get fifteen minutes, and it ended up being an hour interview.

1960
01:53:52,880 --> 01:53:55,720
Speaker 17: He probably forgot about it after that, but I hit

1961
01:53:55,800 --> 01:53:58,960
Speaker 17: him up about six months later and I showed him

1962
01:53:59,040 --> 01:54:03,559
Speaker 17: the first draft of the chapter, the first chapter Out

1963
01:54:03,600 --> 01:54:07,400
Speaker 17: of Darkness sent to to him. He ended up coming

1964
01:54:07,520 --> 01:54:11,759
Speaker 17: back there maybe about eight eight or nine months later,

1965
01:54:12,920 --> 01:54:16,519
Speaker 17: and he was blown away. And we've been, you know,

1966
01:54:16,800 --> 01:54:21,559
Speaker 17: we've been close, close ever since then. He kind of

1967
01:54:22,000 --> 01:54:26,360
Speaker 17: became my Jegna, which is like the African version of

1968
01:54:26,400 --> 01:54:32,160
Speaker 17: a mentor. So Bro the Router was very welcoming, very receptive,

1969
01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:38,400
Speaker 17: very supportive, always has been. So he kind of gave

1970
01:54:38,720 --> 01:54:41,560
Speaker 17: he put the battery in my back, so to speak.

1971
01:54:42,120 --> 01:54:42,520
Speaker 11: Finished.

1972
01:54:42,520 --> 01:54:45,640
Speaker 17: The rest of the film ended up linking with Severe Bay.

1973
01:54:45,840 --> 01:54:49,640
Speaker 17: Not too long after that. Severe Bay introduced me to

1974
01:54:50,240 --> 01:54:54,080
Speaker 17: Professor James Small and Todd Tarik Bay, and the rest

1975
01:54:54,200 --> 01:54:57,360
Speaker 17: was kind of kind of history. The rest was history.

1976
01:54:57,440 --> 01:55:01,240
Speaker 17: So Out of Darkness came out late twenty fifteen, early

1977
01:55:01,280 --> 01:55:08,520
Speaker 17: twenty sixteen, great reviews, great reviews. It premiered at the

1978
01:55:08,520 --> 01:55:13,320
Speaker 17: Pan African Film Festival in La Standing Ovation sold out

1979
01:55:13,360 --> 01:55:16,480
Speaker 17: of all the DVDs I had within like two minutes,

1980
01:55:17,080 --> 01:55:18,640
Speaker 17: and I just knew I had something.

1981
01:55:21,520 --> 01:55:25,320
Speaker 1: That same year, the guys three minutes after the top

1982
01:55:25,480 --> 01:55:27,160
Speaker 1: I found He's just for the voice you heard is

1983
01:55:27,240 --> 01:55:33,240
Speaker 1: Amadas Christ. He did the series Out of Darkness you

1984
01:55:33,280 --> 01:55:35,640
Speaker 1: know that series. He mentioned that now this new project

1985
01:55:35,720 --> 01:55:37,880
Speaker 1: is called Heavy is the Crown that you worked in

1986
01:55:38,040 --> 01:55:40,280
Speaker 1: conjunction with Tony Browner. But I understand that you went

1987
01:55:40,320 --> 01:55:43,800
Speaker 1: to Chemid, Egypt with brother Tony. How did that influence

1988
01:55:44,200 --> 01:55:46,600
Speaker 1: the film Heavy is the Crown.

1989
01:55:48,320 --> 01:55:55,640
Speaker 17: So yeah, going to Egypt Kemmid in twenty sixteen with

1990
01:55:55,760 --> 01:56:03,160
Speaker 17: Tony really just blew me away. I'm still blown away. Uh,

1991
01:56:03,280 --> 01:56:08,640
Speaker 17: it's it was a it was a religious, spiritual pilgrimage

1992
01:56:08,960 --> 01:56:12,720
Speaker 17: for me, kind of like how Malcolm went to Egypt,

1993
01:56:12,840 --> 01:56:15,520
Speaker 17: and you know, it kind of changes perspective. I think

1994
01:56:15,560 --> 01:56:19,840
Speaker 17: the same thing happened to me. Uh, Out of Darkness.

1995
01:56:19,920 --> 01:56:22,240
Speaker 17: I had a chapter on Kimmit in the first Out

1996
01:56:22,280 --> 01:56:25,720
Speaker 17: of Darkness, but it was primarily just all animations and photos.

1997
01:56:25,760 --> 01:56:28,080
Speaker 17: I didn't really I didn't go to Kimmit at the time.

1998
01:56:28,120 --> 01:56:31,400
Speaker 17: I did that. So going to Kimmit, going to all

1999
01:56:31,440 --> 01:56:37,040
Speaker 17: of these temples, going and see seeing the pyramids, going

2000
01:56:37,240 --> 01:56:43,680
Speaker 17: to file ed Fo and Komombo and the temple at

2001
01:56:43,760 --> 01:56:49,520
Speaker 17: Dendarah and Abby does. I mean I had my camera

2002
01:56:49,640 --> 01:56:55,720
Speaker 17: with me obviously, so I'm just filming everything I could see, Uh,

2003
01:56:55,960 --> 01:57:00,000
Speaker 17: seeing all of these religious stories, you know, the resurrect

2004
01:57:00,000 --> 01:57:03,320
Speaker 17: a story of Bazar, the Asarian drama, which is in

2005
01:57:03,560 --> 01:57:05,240
Speaker 17: out of darkness of the a is the crown ball

2006
01:57:05,320 --> 01:57:08,680
Speaker 17: you won. Seeing all of this stuff carved on the

2007
01:57:08,680 --> 01:57:12,080
Speaker 17: walls just it blew me away. And I knew I

2008
01:57:12,120 --> 01:57:15,040
Speaker 17: had to tell this story and I had to show everybody.

2009
01:57:15,160 --> 01:57:18,160
Speaker 17: I had to show our people what we had done.

2010
01:57:18,520 --> 01:57:23,440
Speaker 17: Uh you know as early as four thousand BC. Uh,

2011
01:57:23,920 --> 01:57:25,040
Speaker 17: what we had carved on.

2012
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Speaker 5: To these walls.

2013
01:57:26,640 --> 01:57:29,680
Speaker 1: Uh old right there, Old, I thought, right there, because

2014
01:57:30,120 --> 01:57:32,880
Speaker 1: you know, not everybody's been to Egypt, and you're right,

2015
01:57:32,920 --> 01:57:35,080
Speaker 1: he'll blow your away when you see it. But it

2016
01:57:35,200 --> 01:57:37,360
Speaker 1: was anything in particular that that you saw that you

2017
01:57:37,400 --> 01:57:39,680
Speaker 1: can point out to the folk, especially the folks that

2018
01:57:39,920 --> 01:57:43,040
Speaker 1: haven't done made that trip yet to Chemid, that abstual

2019
01:57:43,160 --> 01:57:45,200
Speaker 1: just blew your mind. I know there's a lot of them,

2020
01:57:45,240 --> 01:57:48,360
Speaker 1: and especially going with brother Tony pointing them out to you,

2021
01:57:48,680 --> 01:57:50,520
Speaker 1: but anything in particular that stood out to.

2022
01:57:50,440 --> 01:57:57,600
Speaker 17: You the the Yeah, the temple at Dendera stood out

2023
01:57:57,640 --> 01:58:03,880
Speaker 17: to me just the way it's preserved. I know that's

2024
01:58:06,080 --> 01:58:09,240
Speaker 17: it's a little bit later in Egypt's history, but you know,

2025
01:58:10,960 --> 01:58:17,920
Speaker 17: the temple at Dendera, it's probably the most visual to me,

2026
01:58:18,120 --> 01:58:26,120
Speaker 17: it's the most visually stimulating. The crypt underneath, in particular,

2027
01:58:26,960 --> 01:58:29,240
Speaker 17: if you go to the crypt, they won't show it

2028
01:58:29,280 --> 01:58:32,000
Speaker 17: to you. You have to see, you have to know

2029
01:58:32,080 --> 01:58:35,000
Speaker 17: about it. But it's underneath the temple, and they have

2030
01:58:35,720 --> 01:58:39,400
Speaker 17: what's called the Dendara light, and it looks like a

2031
01:58:39,720 --> 01:58:44,560
Speaker 17: light bulb, and there's all these reliefs of these it

2032
01:58:44,600 --> 01:58:48,320
Speaker 17: looks like these lights. It looks like they had electricity

2033
01:58:48,440 --> 01:58:51,320
Speaker 17: back then. I'm not an expert, but it looks like

2034
01:58:51,400 --> 01:58:55,960
Speaker 17: a big light bulb and that that probably blew me

2035
01:58:56,000 --> 01:58:57,680
Speaker 17: away more than anything else.

2036
01:58:58,720 --> 01:58:59,680
Speaker 5: To answer that question.

2037
01:59:00,240 --> 01:59:02,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting because there's so many things that you'll

2038
01:59:02,840 --> 01:59:05,600
Speaker 1: see on the carbage in those walls, you know, especially

2039
01:59:05,640 --> 01:59:08,320
Speaker 1: if you're a doctor, if you're an attorney, all these

2040
01:59:09,040 --> 01:59:11,880
Speaker 1: things that you use now, some of the terminology, some

2041
01:59:11,920 --> 01:59:15,080
Speaker 1: of the equipment was all made back then by our folks.

2042
01:59:15,240 --> 01:59:18,880
Speaker 1: You know, our accessors were black. Did that issue ever

2043
01:59:18,920 --> 01:59:21,800
Speaker 1: come up to in the production of this I'm a.

2044
01:59:21,800 --> 01:59:27,440
Speaker 17: Dais as far as the Egyptians being African.

2045
01:59:27,960 --> 01:59:30,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you know there's a there's a football now,

2046
01:59:30,440 --> 01:59:33,560
Speaker 1: there's a trend now trying to erase that that that

2047
01:59:33,560 --> 01:59:37,320
Speaker 1: that part of our history that that early Egyptians weren't black.

2048
01:59:37,440 --> 01:59:39,480
Speaker 1: Did you have to deal deal with any of that?

2049
01:59:41,040 --> 01:59:44,800
Speaker 17: If you know? I haven't. Uh, you know, there there

2050
01:59:44,920 --> 01:59:46,840
Speaker 17: is a group I'm not going to say their name,

2051
01:59:46,880 --> 01:59:49,760
Speaker 17: but there is a group who kind of trolls online

2052
01:59:50,640 --> 01:59:53,920
Speaker 17: and there they'll troll you, you know, but it comes

2053
01:59:53,920 --> 01:59:58,120
Speaker 17: with the territory. I haven't had any issues. When I

2054
01:59:58,160 --> 02:00:01,879
Speaker 17: first got into this knowledge. I I would debate people

2055
02:00:02,040 --> 02:00:05,800
Speaker 17: all day and all night online and I just got

2056
02:00:05,840 --> 02:00:08,600
Speaker 17: thick of doing that because if you go to Egypt

2057
02:00:08,640 --> 02:00:10,879
Speaker 17: and you just look at the walls, I mean, it's

2058
02:00:11,000 --> 02:00:15,800
Speaker 17: very very clear who these people were, you know. I

2059
02:00:15,840 --> 02:00:17,760
Speaker 17: know a lot of the stuff that's been tampered with

2060
02:00:17,880 --> 02:00:20,880
Speaker 17: probably lighted up, but the people on the walls are

2061
02:00:20,960 --> 02:00:24,120
Speaker 17: very very dark. That you can tell by the hair texture,

2062
02:00:24,840 --> 02:00:27,680
Speaker 17: you can tell by the symbolism, you can tell by

2063
02:00:27,760 --> 02:00:30,160
Speaker 17: the met who neture, which is the hieroglyst. I mean,

2064
02:00:30,200 --> 02:00:33,640
Speaker 17: it's very clear. So I just kind of gave up.

2065
02:00:33,880 --> 02:00:38,640
Speaker 17: I think it's insulting to to try to say that

2066
02:00:38,960 --> 02:00:43,600
Speaker 17: the ancient Egyptians weren't African, especially because Egypt is in Africa,

2067
02:00:43,880 --> 02:00:45,640
Speaker 17: you know, So.

2068
02:00:45,680 --> 02:00:47,760
Speaker 1: No, because you're coming up on a break, I gotta

2069
02:00:47,800 --> 02:00:51,240
Speaker 1: ask you this question, who needs to know this information more?

2070
02:00:51,440 --> 02:00:53,800
Speaker 1: The other folks are us Black people know that the

2071
02:00:53,800 --> 02:00:56,320
Speaker 1: Ansian Egyptians were black, and as you mentioned now, they're

2072
02:00:56,560 --> 02:00:59,400
Speaker 1: trying to make them look like they're not what the

2073
02:00:59,440 --> 02:01:01,800
Speaker 1: Egypt is day. Most of Egypt, I should say, not

2074
02:01:01,840 --> 02:01:05,120
Speaker 1: all of it is today that reflects what ancient Egypt

2075
02:01:05,240 --> 02:01:07,560
Speaker 1: was back then? Is the move to foot to do

2076
02:01:07,640 --> 02:01:10,080
Speaker 1: that because all these creations that we have, you know,

2077
02:01:10,080 --> 02:01:13,560
Speaker 1: whether it be just anything you name it, it was

2078
02:01:13,600 --> 02:01:16,760
Speaker 1: all created by our ancestors, black people, the ancient geesprin

2079
02:01:16,800 --> 02:01:19,320
Speaker 1: we are black, and there's a move now to whitewash that.

2080
02:01:19,760 --> 02:01:21,400
Speaker 1: I want to get to your thoughts. Who needs to

2081
02:01:21,440 --> 02:01:24,640
Speaker 1: know this information more? Our people are the people who

2082
02:01:24,640 --> 02:01:27,840
Speaker 1: are trying to whitewash ancient Egypt. You'll let you respond

2083
02:01:27,840 --> 02:01:29,240
Speaker 1: when we get back from the short break. We've got

2084
02:01:29,280 --> 02:01:31,800
Speaker 1: to take a quick break here the family. You too

2085
02:01:31,840 --> 02:01:34,280
Speaker 1: can join this conversation with our guest, Amadeus Christ. If

2086
02:01:34,320 --> 02:01:38,040
Speaker 1: you've heard of the film that he directed, the first

2087
02:01:38,040 --> 02:01:41,680
Speaker 1: film Out of Darkness, and now he's doing another one

2088
02:01:41,680 --> 02:01:44,640
Speaker 1: with Tony Brown, is called Heavy is the Crown. What

2089
02:01:44,680 --> 02:01:46,360
Speaker 1: are your thoughts about that? Reach out to us at

2090
02:01:46,400 --> 02:01:49,160
Speaker 1: eight hundred and four or five zero seventy eight seventy six,

2091
02:01:49,200 --> 02:01:52,000
Speaker 1: and we'll take your phone calls next and Grand Rising Family,

2092
02:01:52,000 --> 02:01:53,880
Speaker 1: Thanks are sticking with us on this Monday morning. Thanks

2093
02:01:53,920 --> 02:01:55,800
Speaker 1: are starting your week with us at nineteen minutes away

2094
02:01:55,840 --> 02:01:59,840
Speaker 1: from the top there with that guests. Christ he's a filmmaker.

2095
02:02:00,040 --> 02:02:03,360
Speaker 1: He did Out of Africa, Out of Darkness. I'm sorry,

2096
02:02:03,680 --> 02:02:06,120
Speaker 1: there's a serious he did first and now second series.

2097
02:02:06,160 --> 02:02:08,520
Speaker 1: He's doing work with Tony Bradder on this one. It's

2098
02:02:08,520 --> 02:02:10,680
Speaker 1: called Heavy is the Crown. Before we go back to it, now,

2099
02:02:10,760 --> 02:02:12,560
Speaker 1: let me just remind you. Coming up later this morning,

2100
02:02:12,680 --> 02:02:16,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna speak with former vice presidential candidate doctor Melina Abdullah,

2101
02:02:16,080 --> 02:02:18,680
Speaker 1: who was on the ticket with Cornell weston the last

2102
02:02:18,680 --> 02:02:21,280
Speaker 1: presidential elections. She's gonna hear we're gonna talk politics with her,

2103
02:02:21,440 --> 02:02:24,520
Speaker 1: also talk about the fact that Justice upon investigating the

2104
02:02:24,560 --> 02:02:28,160
Speaker 1: Roague group Black Lives Matter. You know, they stole the

2105
02:02:28,560 --> 02:02:30,400
Speaker 1: idea and called it black Lives Matter, so she had

2106
02:02:30,400 --> 02:02:32,960
Speaker 1: to change her group's name to Black Lives Matter grass Roots.

2107
02:02:33,040 --> 02:02:35,240
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to her about that. Also, later this week,

2108
02:02:35,240 --> 02:02:38,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna hear from author and clinician doctor Jeromy Fox.

2109
02:02:38,520 --> 02:02:40,400
Speaker 1: You know him from his book Addicted to Why the

2110
02:02:40,480 --> 02:02:43,280
Speaker 1: Oppressed in Legal the Oppressed a shame based their lives. Also,

2111
02:02:43,320 --> 02:02:45,440
Speaker 1: attorney and Kischie Taifa will be here. So if you

2112
02:02:45,480 --> 02:02:47,480
Speaker 1: are in Baltimore, make sure your radio's locked and tied

2113
02:02:47,520 --> 02:02:50,839
Speaker 1: on ten ten WLB or if you're in the DMV family,

2114
02:02:50,960 --> 02:02:55,120
Speaker 1: we're rolling on fourteen fifty WL. All right, I'm medeis

2115
02:02:55,440 --> 02:02:56,920
Speaker 1: the reason why I asked that question because you know,

2116
02:02:56,960 --> 02:03:00,120
Speaker 1: they say that Egypt is the cradle of civilization, and

2117
02:03:00,120 --> 02:03:02,080
Speaker 1: what he's doing that those of you have never been

2118
02:03:02,120 --> 02:03:03,880
Speaker 1: to Egypt, make sure he can at least once in

2119
02:03:03,920 --> 02:03:06,480
Speaker 1: your life go to Egypt. On the walls of these temples,

2120
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Speaker 1: for example, if you're an attorney, you'll see the scales that

2121
02:03:09,080 --> 02:03:13,440
Speaker 1: it's used right now, the Hippocratic oath the doctor state

2122
02:03:13,800 --> 02:03:16,440
Speaker 1: was written there. You see some instruments the doctors used.

2123
02:03:16,440 --> 02:03:18,840
Speaker 1: They always that there was Our ancestors were using this,

2124
02:03:19,520 --> 02:03:24,200
Speaker 1: using these products before, you know, before they became right

2125
02:03:24,240 --> 02:03:26,680
Speaker 1: now and all of that, you know, people say it

2126
02:03:26,840 --> 02:03:30,320
Speaker 1: was stolen, that was from our ancestors, because now they're

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Speaker 1: trying to make our ancestors were white, or they were

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Speaker 1: Egyptian or what do you call it? Sort of Asian

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Speaker 1: looking at but they weren't black there, even though Egypt

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02:03:40,200 --> 02:03:42,800
Speaker 1: is in Africa. So my question to Amadas before we

2131
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Speaker 1: left for the break was who needs to know this

2132
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Speaker 1: information more, Our people to know that our ancestors created

2133
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Speaker 1: all this created civilization, or the other folks because they

2134
02:03:51,920 --> 02:03:54,080
Speaker 1: don't think we're worth even getting a slice of bread.

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Speaker 4: Your thoughts, your reaction.

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Speaker 17: Carl, I think, to answer your question directly, it is

2137
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Speaker 17: our people who need to know. Ironically, I believe that

2138
02:04:11,360 --> 02:04:15,920
Speaker 17: everybody else knows the truth. But if that makes sense,

2139
02:04:17,320 --> 02:04:22,720
Speaker 17: these people have invested a lot to keep us in

2140
02:04:22,880 --> 02:04:29,560
Speaker 17: the darkness. Hence out of darkness. They have taken all

2141
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Speaker 17: of our science, our African sacred science, and kind of

2142
02:04:33,200 --> 02:04:36,080
Speaker 17: used it against us. You know, Doctor Clark used to say,

2143
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Speaker 17: if you look at a people and you see the

2144
02:04:39,360 --> 02:04:43,520
Speaker 17: strongest thing about them, you look on the flip side

2145
02:04:43,600 --> 02:04:46,600
Speaker 17: and you can see the weakest thing about them. The

2146
02:04:46,640 --> 02:04:50,160
Speaker 17: strongest thing about African people is that we are very

2147
02:04:50,480 --> 02:04:55,240
Speaker 17: spiritual people. We are very spiritually inclined, and we are

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Speaker 17: highly susceptible to religion and spiritual beliefs. On the flip

2149
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Speaker 17: side of that, you know, when you when you think

2150
02:05:07,720 --> 02:05:12,640
Speaker 17: about religion and spirituality, you think about morality and having

2151
02:05:12,680 --> 02:05:15,440
Speaker 17: good morals, which is true. But on the flip side

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02:05:15,440 --> 02:05:19,800
Speaker 17: of that, the weak the weakness is that that religion

2153
02:05:19,920 --> 02:05:25,640
Speaker 17: gets used against us and it traps us. Unfortunately, we

2154
02:05:25,840 --> 02:05:33,320
Speaker 17: have adopted foreigners perceptions, foreigners religious beliefs. If you look

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02:05:33,360 --> 02:05:38,960
Speaker 17: at Africa, you know the northern half of Africa is

2156
02:05:38,960 --> 02:05:47,400
Speaker 17: Islam and the southern half of Africa is Christianity. We've

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Speaker 17: lost our original African sacred science. We've lost that, and

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Speaker 17: that is the reason why I'm doing this film Heavy

2159
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Speaker 17: as the Crown, which which is split into two volumes.

2160
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Speaker 17: The first volume came out in twenty twenty two. The

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Speaker 17: second volume comes out this week, actually the eleventh, which

2162
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Speaker 17: you can pre order now at Out of darknessfilm dot com.

2163
02:06:13,640 --> 02:06:18,879
Speaker 17: But we've lost it, and we've adopted somebody else's story,

2164
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Speaker 17: and you know it was you know, in North America,

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Speaker 17: we're primarily I would say Christian, Most of us are Christian,

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Speaker 17: and that religion was kind of forced on us through

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Speaker 17: the process of enslavement. Not to say that Christianity is

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Speaker 17: absolutely and totally wrong. What I am saying is that Christianity,

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Speaker 17: the modern day the way we know it was given

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Speaker 17: to us by the European because they took the critical

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Speaker 17: elements of what we had created back in ancient Egypt

2172
02:06:59,400 --> 02:07:03,400
Speaker 17: and ancient in it and they kind of used it

2173
02:07:03,480 --> 02:07:06,600
Speaker 17: as a political tool. So they took the core, the

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Speaker 17: key elements and added stuff to it and gave it

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Speaker 17: to us with the image of a white God, a

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Speaker 17: white savior and their image and that.

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Speaker 1: Hold that that begs the question, and people always ask

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Speaker 1: this question thirteen away from the top of if we

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Speaker 1: were so smart, how did we how do we let

2180
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Speaker 1: them overcome us? Because you know, even mathematics family, all

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Speaker 1: the numbers creatby eye people. You know whether at the

2182
02:07:34,120 --> 02:07:37,080
Speaker 1: heart people do their horoscope the creator eye people, all

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02:07:37,120 --> 02:07:41,160
Speaker 1: of this is near, the twelve inches is afoot, thirty

2184
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Speaker 1: days in a certain month. All of these things were

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Speaker 1: created by ancient Egyptians African people. So you're saying that

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Speaker 1: our spirituality is part of our makeup, especially our ancient

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02:07:54,000 --> 02:07:56,880
Speaker 1: brothers and sisters. Was the spirituality was was? How do

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Speaker 1: you see that? Is that is that? Would you consider

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Speaker 1: that a weakness? Because we're so given?

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Speaker 17: Well, you got to understand, just like any empire, empires

2191
02:08:09,680 --> 02:08:14,160
Speaker 17: rise and they fall. We are very very old people.

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Speaker 17: Our history goes back over three hundred thousand years BC.

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Speaker 17: So I remember brother Renoko Rashidi said this, and a

2194
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Speaker 17: couple of people have said this. But you know, we

2195
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Speaker 17: just we got old and we started to go into decline,

2196
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Speaker 17: which is a natural thing. What actually happened on the ground, though,

2197
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Speaker 17: is we were we were essentially if you look at

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Speaker 17: the history of Egypt, it went through a series of invasions. Okay,

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Speaker 17: A good book to pick up is The Destruction of

2200
02:08:51,760 --> 02:08:56,840
Speaker 17: Black Civilization by doctor Chancellor Williams, and he outlines this.

2201
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Speaker 17: We went through a series of invasions ever since the

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Speaker 17: founding of Egypt. The Hixos, the Assyrian, the Greeks, the Romans,

2203
02:09:13,640 --> 02:09:17,400
Speaker 17: and the Arabs were the last ones to really conquer Egypt.

2204
02:09:19,520 --> 02:09:22,800
Speaker 17: Africa as a whole was attacked. You know. Bring it

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Speaker 17: to the slave trade. We were attacked on two sides.

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02:09:26,760 --> 02:09:30,520
Speaker 17: We were attacked by Europe and we were attacked through

2207
02:09:30,560 --> 02:09:36,040
Speaker 17: the Middle East by the Arab invasion. And if a

2208
02:09:36,040 --> 02:09:38,880
Speaker 17: lot of people know about the Transatlantic slave trade, but

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Speaker 17: very few people know about the Arab slave trade, which

2210
02:09:44,440 --> 02:09:48,760
Speaker 17: is still technically still going on. But it's just you know,

2211
02:09:49,080 --> 02:09:52,760
Speaker 17: if I'm walking down the street and I get attacked

2212
02:09:52,800 --> 02:09:57,400
Speaker 17: by multiple people. As strong as a fighter, I may be,

2213
02:09:57,800 --> 02:10:00,800
Speaker 17: it would be very difficult for me to keep to

2214
02:10:00,920 --> 02:10:05,000
Speaker 17: fend off a large group of people by myself, especially

2215
02:10:05,000 --> 02:10:09,240
Speaker 17: if I'm being attacked on all sides. So that's essentially

2216
02:10:09,320 --> 02:10:12,880
Speaker 17: what happened to African people. We've been attacked. People have

2217
02:10:13,000 --> 02:10:17,640
Speaker 17: been invading Africa for our resources for a very long time,

2218
02:10:17,920 --> 02:10:24,760
Speaker 17: still are and the unfortunately we succumb to it. In

2219
02:10:24,920 --> 02:10:28,640
Speaker 17: my belief, I think a large portion of that, or

2220
02:10:28,680 --> 02:10:33,440
Speaker 17: a large reason wise because we lost art. Like I said,

2221
02:10:33,440 --> 02:10:36,160
Speaker 17: we lost our African sacred science. We kind of gave

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Speaker 17: that up. We started adopting other people's religion, particularly with Islam.

2223
02:10:43,080 --> 02:10:45,800
Speaker 17: I don't have anything against Islam as a religion, but

2224
02:10:46,000 --> 02:10:49,880
Speaker 17: the way it was used in particularly North Africa, it

2225
02:10:49,960 --> 02:10:57,440
Speaker 17: was used as as a conquering mechanism and.

2226
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Speaker 4: Got some folks.

2227
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Speaker 1: You want to talk to you the clock right now,

2228
02:10:58,280 --> 02:11:00,640
Speaker 1: it's ten minutes away from the top at first. One

2229
02:11:00,760 --> 02:11:03,880
Speaker 1: up is marking Baltimore is online. One Grand Rise in Markey,

2230
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Speaker 1: One wrong with Ama Damas.

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Speaker 19: Hello, Yes you're on the air. Hello, Yes, Mark You're

2232
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Speaker 19: on the air. Hello, all right, let's move on, Kevin, Let's.

2233
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Speaker 1: Go to line too. Phillips in d C. Philip grand Rising, Hey.

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Speaker 6: Grand Rising, brothers out.

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Speaker 4: Have we lost Philip? Hello, Yes you're on the air, Philip.

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Speaker 6: Yes, sir, So yeah, yeah, man, I'm gonna be well.

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Speaker 6: Thank you guys for the work. I just wanted to

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Speaker 6: make a comment on what you were saying about being

2239
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Speaker 6: surrounded by enemies and being a fighter. I believe you

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Speaker 6: know that that a lot of you know, the the

2241
02:11:55,080 --> 02:12:01,080
Speaker 6: you know, the African civilizations were overdrawn. It was just treachery, man.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you know, the enemy saw saw the weaknesses,

2243
02:12:05,640 --> 02:12:08,960
Speaker 6: and they exploited them and uh and just just just

2244
02:12:09,000 --> 02:12:12,160
Speaker 6: went to town, went to town on us. So that's

2245
02:12:12,160 --> 02:12:14,000
Speaker 6: nothing to be ashamed of. You know, every every every

2246
02:12:14,040 --> 02:12:17,520
Speaker 6: group had you know, people had weaknesses and stuff. But

2247
02:12:17,520 --> 02:12:19,640
Speaker 6: but I think that's what's.

2248
02:12:18,920 --> 02:12:23,120
Speaker 1: That in our spirituality? What's that weakness in our spirituality?

2249
02:12:23,600 --> 02:12:25,600
Speaker 1: What's the weakness.

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Speaker 6: Part of I think when he when he was saying

2251
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Speaker 6: like the sacred science, I think I think, yeah, we

2252
02:12:30,000 --> 02:12:33,160
Speaker 6: started to adopt a lot of spiritual spiritual practices that

2253
02:12:33,240 --> 02:12:36,520
Speaker 6: divided us and caused us to fight against each other

2254
02:12:36,640 --> 02:12:38,840
Speaker 6: even more and become even weaker, you know what I'm saying.

2255
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Speaker 6: So you know, yeah, yeah, I wholeheartedly agree. But what

2256
02:12:44,720 --> 02:12:45,480
Speaker 6: you're saying about that.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for your comment. Ama Dan said just the

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02:12:48,880 --> 02:12:50,600
Speaker 1: spiritual that was part of our weakness. And do you

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02:12:50,640 --> 02:12:51,440
Speaker 1: see the same point.

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Speaker 17: I agree. I think that's still happening happening today. You know,

2261
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Speaker 17: dividing conquer has been the strategy, right, dividing conquer uh

2262
02:13:09,120 --> 02:13:14,640
Speaker 17: Africa is very could be very tribal. People are, you know,

2263
02:13:15,240 --> 02:13:20,320
Speaker 17: divided in naturally by tribes. So it was very easy

2264
02:13:20,400 --> 02:13:23,320
Speaker 17: for Europeans and Arabs to kind of come in and

2265
02:13:23,400 --> 02:13:26,720
Speaker 17: we did the same thing. The Moors did the same

2266
02:13:26,760 --> 02:13:29,880
Speaker 17: thing in Spain. When the Moors went into Spain in

2267
02:13:30,000 --> 02:13:35,120
Speaker 17: seven eleven, they they conquered a large portion of Spain

2268
02:13:35,240 --> 02:13:37,880
Speaker 17: and they just went from town to town to town.

2269
02:13:38,600 --> 02:13:42,760
Speaker 17: Because Spain wasn't very wasn't united as a nation at

2270
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Speaker 17: the time. It was ruled by the busy goods. And

2271
02:13:46,960 --> 02:13:49,880
Speaker 17: the Berbers went in there and overthrew the busy goods.

2272
02:13:49,880 --> 02:13:53,440
Speaker 17: But they just went from town to town conquering, and

2273
02:13:53,480 --> 02:13:56,480
Speaker 17: they conquered all up all the way up to the

2274
02:13:56,480 --> 02:14:03,280
Speaker 17: Pyrenees Mountains. It wasn't until stained with the kingdoms of uh,

2275
02:14:04,520 --> 02:14:07,839
Speaker 17: you know, Isabelle and Ferdinand, and they combined their kingdoms

2276
02:14:07,880 --> 02:14:13,280
Speaker 17: together and under the banner of Christianity, under the under

2277
02:14:13,320 --> 02:14:18,520
Speaker 17: a united banner. And it wasn't then until they were

2278
02:14:18,560 --> 02:14:22,520
Speaker 17: able to repel the Moors and push back. So uh,

2279
02:14:22,840 --> 02:14:25,200
Speaker 17: you know, it's real easy to conquer people when they're

2280
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Speaker 17: already divided. And yeah, I totally agree Europeans and the

2281
02:14:28,840 --> 02:14:33,480
Speaker 17: Arabs came in and exploited, exploited that. So yeah, that's

2282
02:14:33,560 --> 02:14:36,800
Speaker 17: that is a very good point, all right away.

2283
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Speaker 1: For the top, Let's try and mark again. I think

2284
02:14:38,200 --> 02:14:39,560
Speaker 1: it was getting out of his car when we went

2285
02:14:39,560 --> 02:14:41,720
Speaker 1: to Tim's online one Grand Rise and marketing on with

2286
02:14:41,800 --> 02:14:45,160
Speaker 1: Amadeus Grand Rising.

2287
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Speaker 8: God, sorry, Carl, that was my fault. But when I

2288
02:14:49,600 --> 02:14:52,120
Speaker 8: was listening on the way home and when I you know,

2289
02:14:52,160 --> 02:14:56,320
Speaker 8: I heard the brother you know say, you know, Christianity,

2290
02:14:56,560 --> 02:14:58,880
Speaker 8: you know, the flip side of his weakness and stuff

2291
02:14:58,920 --> 02:15:02,120
Speaker 8: like that, I don't. I don't agree with that at all,

2292
02:15:02,360 --> 02:15:04,960
Speaker 8: because you know, I'm a Christian and back in the

2293
02:15:05,040 --> 02:15:08,160
Speaker 8: day in Slavery Town, we didn't have no choice, you know,

2294
02:15:08,320 --> 02:15:12,000
Speaker 8: but to you know, to listen to the propaganda and

2295
02:15:12,000 --> 02:15:14,200
Speaker 8: all that kind of stuff that they perpetrated us on

2296
02:15:14,280 --> 02:15:14,720
Speaker 8: us now.

2297
02:15:15,120 --> 02:15:16,400
Speaker 5: But like Malcolin said when.

2298
02:15:16,320 --> 02:15:21,240
Speaker 8: He came back from Mecca, he said, there can be

2299
02:15:21,320 --> 02:15:28,040
Speaker 8: no black white, you know, togetherness until there's black togetherness.

2300
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Speaker 8: And like Francis pres Welby said, I believe that's our

2301
02:15:31,640 --> 02:15:36,000
Speaker 8: biggest problem is us. You know, we gotta do better

2302
02:15:36,040 --> 02:15:39,000
Speaker 8: towards each other to forgiveness. We don't forgive each other

2303
02:15:39,080 --> 02:15:42,160
Speaker 8: at all, you know. So, so what do you think

2304
02:15:42,200 --> 02:15:44,560
Speaker 8: about that? You know, I'm a Christian and it ain't

2305
02:15:44,600 --> 02:15:47,320
Speaker 8: nothing weak about me or none of the men that

2306
02:15:47,400 --> 02:15:47,960
Speaker 8: I noticed.

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02:15:49,880 --> 02:15:53,560
Speaker 17: Let me say this, I'm a Christian too. I was

2308
02:15:53,640 --> 02:15:56,120
Speaker 17: raising the Baptist Church. My father is a deacon. My

2309
02:15:56,160 --> 02:16:01,640
Speaker 17: whole family, my whole family were ministers in Red d So, Uh,

2310
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Speaker 17: here's the issue that I have with Christianity. I don't

2311
02:16:06,400 --> 02:16:09,560
Speaker 17: have an issue with the with the with the principles

2312
02:16:09,600 --> 02:16:15,839
Speaker 17: of Christianity, because Christianity, uh is about good moral character,

2313
02:16:16,800 --> 02:16:21,080
Speaker 17: just like are if you study the laws of my eyes,

2314
02:16:21,160 --> 02:16:25,560
Speaker 17: it's about good moral character. My issue with Christianity is

2315
02:16:25,640 --> 02:16:28,880
Speaker 17: the imagery that it comes with the imagery of the

2316
02:16:28,920 --> 02:16:33,440
Speaker 17: white God, the imagery of the white Jesus. And you

2317
02:16:33,480 --> 02:16:35,560
Speaker 17: could you could try to blacken it up. You can

2318
02:16:35,600 --> 02:16:38,520
Speaker 17: try to blacken up Jesus if you want to. And

2319
02:16:38,560 --> 02:16:41,640
Speaker 17: we all know that the historical Jesus would have been black.

2320
02:16:41,800 --> 02:16:47,480
Speaker 17: But in the subconscious mind and the subconscious mind if

2321
02:16:47,480 --> 02:16:50,840
Speaker 17: you are a Christian, just like you, if you look

2322
02:16:50,879 --> 02:16:53,720
Speaker 17: at the pictures on your grandmother's and your great grandmother's

2323
02:16:53,760 --> 02:16:56,320
Speaker 17: of Wall, they all have the image of white Jesus.

2324
02:16:56,360 --> 02:16:58,720
Speaker 17: They did not have the image of the black. They

2325
02:16:58,760 --> 02:17:01,680
Speaker 17: had the image of the white. And with that death

2326
02:17:01,840 --> 02:17:05,240
Speaker 17: the subconscious mind of the African and it tells them

2327
02:17:05,280 --> 02:17:09,560
Speaker 17: that God is white, Jesus is white. So therefore, if

2328
02:17:09,600 --> 02:17:13,880
Speaker 17: God is white and Jesus is white, then I'm blind

2329
02:17:13,959 --> 02:17:16,440
Speaker 17: and I must be outside of the grace of God.

2330
02:17:16,600 --> 02:17:20,240
Speaker 17: I must must be something wrong with me. Why was

2331
02:17:20,280 --> 02:17:23,840
Speaker 17: I born with this black skin? It's God white and

2332
02:17:24,000 --> 02:17:32,199
Speaker 17: Jesus's white.

2333
02:17:33,400 --> 02:17:33,800
Speaker 5: Marks.

2334
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Speaker 1: Well, got to step aside, Kevin just holding down for

2335
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Speaker 1: us eight hundred and four or five zero seventy eight

2336
02:17:40,959 --> 02:17:45,280
Speaker 1: seventy six. Family, we're speaking with filmmaker Amade's christ as

2337
02:17:45,320 --> 02:17:47,080
Speaker 1: I messure. Weve got to step aside so our stations

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Speaker 1: can identify themselves down the line and we'll take your

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Speaker 1: phone calls next and grind Rising family, thanks for starting

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Speaker 1: your week with us. A minute after the top there,

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Speaker 1: I'm mom and Tale. We're going to speak with former

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02:17:55,959 --> 02:17:59,480
Speaker 1: vice presidential candidate doctor Melina Abdullah. So pondrash to the

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02:17:59,480 --> 02:18:01,600
Speaker 1: folks who all late, and because this is not really

2344
02:18:01,640 --> 02:18:05,400
Speaker 1: about discussion about Christianity, it's about Amid. It's his latest book,

2345
02:18:05,560 --> 02:18:08,840
Speaker 1: the latest book, latest film, Heavy is the Crown inspired way.

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02:18:08,920 --> 02:18:12,840
Speaker 1: He's talks with Tony Browner about you know, our history

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02:18:12,879 --> 02:18:14,560
Speaker 1: of ancient history if you will, so let's I'm just

2348
02:18:14,600 --> 02:18:17,040
Speaker 1: gonna take one call. That was the one brother Sau

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02:18:17,080 --> 02:18:19,640
Speaker 1: would call us at the top of the list from Baltimore.

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02:18:19,760 --> 02:18:21,920
Speaker 1: I sound like too, so brother Saint Coup. You're on

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02:18:22,000 --> 02:18:23,040
Speaker 1: with Amadeus Christ.

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Speaker 15: Hello, how you doing?

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Speaker 5: I can you?

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Speaker 15: Can you hear? Can you hear me?

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Speaker 4: Yes? We can? I'm dads, can you hear him? Please?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: How much were going on now?

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Speaker 3: Is a favorite?

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Speaker 1: When they asked the question, you've got to repeat it.

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Speaker 1: You got to respond quite right away. I have time

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02:18:44,360 --> 02:18:45,960
Speaker 1: to think in radio because it's a dead air and

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Speaker 1: people don't think you're there.

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Speaker 4: So please do us that favorite next time you come on.

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Speaker 15: Go ahead, listen, Doctor John Henry Clark says, he asked

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Speaker 15: a question, what has Islam done for Africa besides stagnetic

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Speaker 15: Reverend wil Q.

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Speaker 16: Walker.

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Speaker 15: He said, Christianity was used to make the slaves submissive.

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Speaker 15: So tell me where in the world at any important

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Speaker 15: time as Christian or Islam's and beneficial to us as

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Speaker 15: a people.

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Speaker 4: All right, go ahead, I'm a dasher.

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Speaker 17: How was it beneficial.

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Speaker 7: It?

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Speaker 17: You know, Christianity contains a lot of the original African

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02:19:31,840 --> 02:19:37,959
Speaker 17: spiritual practices that we did, so that's what I would say.

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Speaker 17: It does teach good moral character, so is Islam, but

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02:19:43,320 --> 02:19:45,120
Speaker 17: it comes with a lot of other stuff. Like I

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02:19:45,200 --> 02:19:48,800
Speaker 17: was saying before, the imagery of the packaging of it

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02:19:48,840 --> 02:19:52,120
Speaker 17: has been detrimental to us, But at its core, I

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02:19:52,120 --> 02:19:57,160
Speaker 17: don't see anything wrong with it per se. Another issue

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Speaker 17: that I kind of take issues. Another thing that I

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02:20:00,920 --> 02:20:03,359
Speaker 17: kind of take issue with is that in the story

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Speaker 17: the Christianity, the Christian story, the Egyptians are painted as enflavors.

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Speaker 17: They're painted as bad people, you know, Pharaoh and all

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Speaker 17: of this stuff. I disagree with that. I don't think

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Speaker 17: that at any point in time Africans, the ancient Egyptians

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Speaker 17: were practicing slavery. Yeah. Uh, they did take captives. They

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Speaker 17: did take captives, but these captives were essentially prisoners of

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Speaker 17: war because people were invading, right, you have people invading,

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02:20:36,440 --> 02:20:39,560
Speaker 17: constantly invading, so you do see that when you go

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Speaker 17: to the walls. But slavery as a as a concept,

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Speaker 17: as a practice was anti my eye. The job of

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Speaker 17: the of the the nasuit, the ti, the pharaoh, pharaoh

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Speaker 17: is a is an Arab word, the new suit betia.

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Speaker 17: His job was to restore balance and restore order and

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Speaker 17: restore my eye. So that's my answer to that question. Uh,

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Speaker 17: I wholly, wholeheartedly disagree that the ancient Egyptians were practitioners

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Speaker 17: of slavery. So uh, that's That's the second major issue

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Speaker 17: that I have is that our people were the enemies

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Speaker 17: in the story of Christianity, and that's wrong.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we went down a rabbit hole there which I

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Speaker 1: didn't want to go, and we talked about the film

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Speaker 1: that you did with Tony Browner, Heavy is the Crown.

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Speaker 1: How can folks see this film? How can because you

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02:21:37,400 --> 02:21:39,560
Speaker 1: now you're broken up in two parts, and first else

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Speaker 1: why you broke it up in two parts?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 17: It was just too much. It's just too you know,

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Speaker 17: you're talking about four thousand years of history that you're

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Speaker 17: trying to condense into a film. It's just too much information.

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Speaker 17: It's too dense, So I had to break it up

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Speaker 17: in two parts. The major inspiration why it broke into

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Speaker 17: two parts was I was studying the Shabacca Stone. I

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Speaker 17: don't know if anybody knows the Shabakka Stone, but the

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Speaker 17: Shabakka Stone is one of the most well preserved documents

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Speaker 17: of our history. It is broken into two parts, much

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Speaker 17: like the Bible. I don't know if they got that

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Speaker 17: from the Shabacca Stone, but the first part of the

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Speaker 17: Shabakka Stone reads like a play, and the second part

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02:22:27,400 --> 02:22:31,520
Speaker 17: is more of a discourse. So the first volume of

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Speaker 17: Heavy As the Crown is the same thing. It's the

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Speaker 17: drama part. You know, you have the Assarian drama in there,

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Speaker 17: the story of Asara set in herou Asar being killed

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Speaker 17: by his wicked brother and then being resurrected and brought

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Speaker 17: back life and avenged by his son. And then you

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Speaker 17: also there's a chapter in volume one dealing with the

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Speaker 17: judgment scene, which is where most of the foundation core

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Speaker 17: concepts of Christianity come out of the weighing of the

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Speaker 17: heart on the scale. I think you mentioned that earlier,

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Speaker 17: Carl and the heart of the deceased being judged before Ausar,

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Speaker 17: and then if he's found worthy and found true a voice,

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Speaker 17: he gets to go to the afterlife. So that's the drama.

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Speaker 17: Volume two deals with more of the discourse. It deals

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Speaker 17: with the creation stories, it has the It deals with

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Speaker 17: the feminine principle, the Madonna and child, and it goes

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Speaker 17: into there's a whole chapter on restoration. How do we

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Speaker 17: get our original African sacred science back and how to return.

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Speaker 5: Back to that.

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Speaker 17: So it's incredibly dens I have to watch it more

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Speaker 17: than once, probably a few times to kind of get

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02:23:46,000 --> 02:23:48,920
Speaker 17: everything in it. People tell me that every time they

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02:23:48,959 --> 02:23:50,320
Speaker 17: watch it they see something new.

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Speaker 1: Right, So where can we folks see those films? Both

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Speaker 1: of them?

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02:23:56,080 --> 02:24:01,400
Speaker 17: Yeah, they could see Out of Darkness On to the Amazon.

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02:24:01,640 --> 02:24:06,400
Speaker 17: It's on pretty much every major streaming platform. Volume one

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02:24:06,600 --> 02:24:09,920
Speaker 17: right now is on Amazon. It was on two B.

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Speaker 17: It will be returning back to two BE pretty soon.

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Speaker 17: We just signed the global distribution bill, so it'll be

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Speaker 17: on Vimeo on Tuesday. It should be on Amazon. I'm

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Speaker 17: talking about Volume two. It should be on Amazon at

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Speaker 17: some time during the week. If not within the next

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Speaker 17: two weeks. Out of darknessfilm dot Com is where they

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02:24:30,160 --> 02:24:33,680
Speaker 17: can actually purchase the film directly from me. They can

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Speaker 17: purchase both all three DVDs, and I also have a

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02:24:36,920 --> 02:24:40,240
Speaker 17: photo book of all original photos that's got over three

2458
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Speaker 17: hundred and sixty four K high definition photos, so they

2459
02:24:43,920 --> 02:24:46,280
Speaker 17: can purchase the photo book as well. So that is

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Speaker 17: Out of darknessfilm dot com.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you, Amadeas, Thank you for doing this.

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Speaker 1: I'm bringing this forward so folks who have not been

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Speaker 1: to Egypt have not seen the writings on the walls

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Speaker 1: of the temples, that can actually you know, travel with

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Speaker 1: you vicariously like you did with brother Tony Browner did

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02:25:05,200 --> 02:25:07,920
Speaker 1: I did with the doctor Ronoka Rashidi and see what

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Speaker 1: our ancestors did. How they That's why they call easy

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Speaker 1: of the cratle of civilization. So I want to thank

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Speaker 1: you for doing that so folks can see that. And again,

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Speaker 1: how can they see that both of those or what's

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Speaker 1: what's the website address?

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Speaker 4: Real quick?

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Speaker 17: Out of darknessfilm dot com.

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Speaker 1: Gotcha, Thank you, Amadeus, and thank you for all the

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Speaker 1: work you do as well.

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Speaker 17: Thank you much appreciate it. Thank you for having me all.

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Speaker 1: Right, family, turn our attention out to our next guest,

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Speaker 1: who has to be former vice presidential candid doctor Malina Abdullah,

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Speaker 1: doctor Melina grand Rising. Welcome back to the program.

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Speaker 20: Ram Rising, Thanks so much for having me, brother Carl.

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Speaker 4: First off, I.

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Speaker 1: Got you know, family, there are two black Lives Matter,

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Speaker 1: So let me just tell you first before we get

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Speaker 1: into this conversation here. This Black Lives Matter, that's the

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Speaker 1: one that most of you know about the But the

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Speaker 1: real Black Lives Matter we should be concerned with is

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Speaker 1: Black Life Matter grassroots. This is wonderful by doctor Melina Abdulla.

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02:26:03,920 --> 02:26:06,280
Speaker 1: And until she came on this program and told us

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Speaker 1: the other folks have ripped off her concept and they

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02:26:09,200 --> 02:26:12,039
Speaker 1: were getting all kinds of funds for doing it in

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Speaker 1: the millions and millions, and her group was suffering because

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Speaker 1: this folks had stolen their identity. Now we find out

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Speaker 1: that the Justice upontment's investigating them. Your thoughts about that,

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Speaker 1: doctor Melina.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, So there's a Justice Department investigation, a criminal investigation

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Speaker 20: into the Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation.

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Speaker 9: Which is the organization.

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02:26:37,120 --> 02:26:41,480
Speaker 20: It's really not even an organization, it's a I don't

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02:26:41,560 --> 02:26:43,680
Speaker 20: know what kind of shop it is. But it's run

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02:26:43,720 --> 02:26:49,160
Speaker 20: by three consultants who stole the money, the platforms, and

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02:26:49,240 --> 02:26:52,600
Speaker 20: the good name of Black Lives Matter. After all that

2502
02:26:52,680 --> 02:26:57,840
Speaker 20: money came pouring in in twenty twenty, and I just

2503
02:26:57,959 --> 02:27:00,640
Speaker 20: shared it with you an article, brother Carl. What just

2504
02:27:00,760 --> 02:27:06,480
Speaker 20: came out is the chief thief, the person who masterminded

2505
02:27:06,520 --> 02:27:11,320
Speaker 20: the whole theft, was just removed from their board. So

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02:27:11,440 --> 02:27:14,560
Speaker 20: what we have to say about it is one, you know,

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02:27:16,480 --> 02:27:19,600
Speaker 20: we want to be clear that BLM grass Roots is

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Speaker 20: not the Global Network Foundation. I'm glad not like us

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02:27:24,600 --> 02:27:28,280
Speaker 20: is back out. They are not like us. Right where

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02:27:28,320 --> 02:27:32,040
Speaker 20: the boots on the grounds. Fifty two chapters all around

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02:27:32,040 --> 02:27:36,600
Speaker 20: the world, including we just came back from Lubbock, Texas,

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02:27:36,600 --> 02:27:39,560
Speaker 20: where we're fighting in the name of Erskine Jenkins, a

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02:27:39,600 --> 02:27:42,600
Speaker 20: young boy who was killed as he was in at

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02:27:42,600 --> 02:27:45,880
Speaker 20: an off campus party at Texas Tech. That's the kind

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02:27:45,879 --> 02:27:50,120
Speaker 20: of work that Black Lives Matter grass Roots does. BLM

2516
02:27:50,400 --> 02:27:54,880
Speaker 20: Global Network Foundation pockets money and lines their own pockets.

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02:27:55,080 --> 02:28:01,119
Speaker 20: Right but two, even though in a sense validates the

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02:28:01,120 --> 02:28:04,560
Speaker 20: fact that we've been saying, you know, please give us

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02:28:04,600 --> 02:28:06,640
Speaker 20: our money back, give us our money back, give us

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02:28:06,680 --> 02:28:10,080
Speaker 20: our resources back. And we filed a lawsuit in twenty

2521
02:28:10,160 --> 02:28:13,360
Speaker 20: twenty two, which was blocked from even making it into court.

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02:28:15,160 --> 02:28:18,440
Speaker 20: We know that in a sense, it validates that, but

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02:28:18,560 --> 02:28:22,360
Speaker 20: we also know that because it's a Trump regime investigation,

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02:28:23,240 --> 02:28:27,760
Speaker 20: and because we are abolitionists and are not relying on

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02:28:27,920 --> 02:28:32,160
Speaker 20: police or any part of the criminal system of injustice

2526
02:28:32,200 --> 02:28:35,280
Speaker 20: to do the work that needs to be done, we're

2527
02:28:35,320 --> 02:28:36,200
Speaker 20: not going to.

2528
02:28:36,560 --> 02:28:42,000
Speaker 9: Delight in their demise, or at least not in the

2529
02:28:42,040 --> 02:28:43,440
Speaker 9: criminal part of their demise.

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Speaker 20: And three, we think that this opens up a way

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02:28:46,800 --> 02:28:50,200
Speaker 20: for them to do what's right and give us our

2532
02:28:50,240 --> 02:28:52,800
Speaker 20: resources back, give us our money back, give us our

2533
02:28:52,840 --> 02:28:56,120
Speaker 20: platforms back, give us our good name back, so we

2534
02:28:56,160 --> 02:28:59,480
Speaker 20: can do the really, really important work that's more important

2535
02:28:59,520 --> 02:29:03,279
Speaker 20: now than ever of fighting for the liberation of black people.

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Speaker 1: Twelve if that top our family with doctor Miliana Abdullas,

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Speaker 1: she's a former vice preasure of candidate, that's the founder

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02:29:09,400 --> 02:29:12,520
Speaker 1: of Black Lives Matter, and now the other her group

2539
02:29:12,680 --> 02:29:15,680
Speaker 1: was hijacked and so she created Black Lives Matter Grassroots.

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Speaker 1: The justice upon investigation, do you know if one if

2541
02:29:18,640 --> 02:29:21,080
Speaker 1: they're going to call any of the guys, you know,

2542
02:29:21,160 --> 02:29:23,360
Speaker 1: for discussions about what went on and too, could they

2543
02:29:23,480 --> 02:29:28,320
Speaker 1: force the rogue Black Lives Matter Global and GNF if

2544
02:29:28,360 --> 02:29:30,680
Speaker 1: you will, can they force them to pay the money

2545
02:29:30,879 --> 02:29:32,000
Speaker 1: or give you your.

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02:29:31,840 --> 02:29:32,560
Speaker 4: Group the money.

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02:29:34,240 --> 02:29:38,240
Speaker 20: Well, I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know what's possible.

2548
02:29:38,400 --> 02:29:41,200
Speaker 20: I do know that, you know, just in kind of

2549
02:29:41,240 --> 02:29:46,760
Speaker 20: my very novice review of things, that they could absolutely

2550
02:29:46,840 --> 02:29:52,200
Speaker 20: seize assets, and I believe they can redistribute assets. I'm

2551
02:29:52,240 --> 02:29:54,680
Speaker 20: not sure how that works, but that's my hope and

2552
02:29:54,720 --> 02:29:58,279
Speaker 20: that's my prayer. And if assets have not been frozen,

2553
02:29:59,040 --> 02:30:03,160
Speaker 20: then again we appeal to the Global Network Foundation to

2554
02:30:03,320 --> 02:30:06,959
Speaker 20: turn those resources over to where they rightfully belong, which

2555
02:30:07,000 --> 02:30:10,400
Speaker 20: is with the movement with Black Lives Matter grassroots, so

2556
02:30:10,400 --> 02:30:13,920
Speaker 20: that we can fund the work that's really really important

2557
02:30:13,920 --> 02:30:15,680
Speaker 20: to us and to black people.

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Speaker 1: Do you think this change of leadership will mitigate what

2559
02:30:20,879 --> 02:30:24,040
Speaker 1: they've done? Will the justice Obama? Looking this is okay,

2560
02:30:24,360 --> 02:30:28,600
Speaker 1: the leadership has changed, So we'll just close this investigation.

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02:30:28,720 --> 02:30:30,120
Speaker 1: And how do you think that's going to work out?

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02:30:31,440 --> 02:30:31,920
Speaker 9: I don't know.

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02:30:32,840 --> 02:30:36,280
Speaker 20: Again, I'm not a lawyer, so I want to keep

2564
02:30:36,320 --> 02:30:38,280
Speaker 20: saying that I don't want people to think that I

2565
02:30:38,360 --> 02:30:41,480
Speaker 20: know what I'm talking about. Legally, I can only talk

2566
02:30:41,520 --> 02:30:44,320
Speaker 20: about what I know for sure in terms of movement

2567
02:30:44,800 --> 02:30:47,520
Speaker 20: and then what I feel is a human being and

2568
02:30:47,920 --> 02:30:50,800
Speaker 20: what's right, and what I feel is a fighter for

2569
02:30:50,920 --> 02:30:56,480
Speaker 20: black people. I don't know if it'll make the Justice

2570
02:30:56,520 --> 02:31:00,240
Speaker 20: Department say, okay, now the investigation is over where I

2571
02:31:00,280 --> 02:31:04,640
Speaker 20: think that the three chairs or three board members are

2572
02:31:04,680 --> 02:31:08,439
Speaker 20: all at faults. Right, So their names are Shalomia Bowers,

2573
02:31:08,879 --> 02:31:12,960
Speaker 20: that's the one who's out, and he was double dipping,

2574
02:31:13,120 --> 02:31:16,080
Speaker 20: so he was not only on the board, and we're

2575
02:31:16,120 --> 02:31:19,200
Speaker 20: pretty sure being paid as a board member. They're all

2576
02:31:20,240 --> 02:31:25,720
Speaker 20: paid somehow as board members because their lives have completely changed. Right,

2577
02:31:25,800 --> 02:31:28,600
Speaker 20: So I know one of them, I've seen another of them,

2578
02:31:29,280 --> 02:31:33,480
Speaker 20: and I've seen what Shlomia Bowers has been doing and

2579
02:31:33,560 --> 02:31:38,320
Speaker 20: posting on social media. They live lives of absolute luxury.

2580
02:31:38,360 --> 02:31:43,560
Speaker 20: They take vacations in places like Israel, they take summers

2581
02:31:43,600 --> 02:31:48,040
Speaker 20: in Martha's Vineyard. They've all transformed the way they look.

2582
02:31:48,200 --> 02:31:51,879
Speaker 20: They have stylists, they wear a cauture. Many of them

2583
02:31:51,920 --> 02:31:56,439
Speaker 20: have had or there's three of them. They've had criminal

2584
02:31:56,879 --> 02:32:02,600
Speaker 20: criminal they've had plastic surgery and you know, beauty procedures,

2585
02:32:02,959 --> 02:32:08,280
Speaker 20: and so they're living these luxurious lives. I can't say though,

2586
02:32:08,680 --> 02:32:12,480
Speaker 20: that they're all using the money that comes from the

2587
02:32:12,520 --> 02:32:16,879
Speaker 20: spilled blood of Erskine Jenkins, of Mike Brown, of Wakisha Wilson,

2588
02:32:17,240 --> 02:32:19,600
Speaker 20: and they're all using that to live high on the hog.

2589
02:32:20,280 --> 02:32:24,480
Speaker 20: So Shalomia Bowers is out, and he's absolutely the chief thief,

2590
02:32:24,560 --> 02:32:27,360
Speaker 20: the mastermind of it all. He was for a moment

2591
02:32:27,520 --> 02:32:31,039
Speaker 20: the only board member, and then he brought on a

2592
02:32:31,080 --> 02:32:36,160
Speaker 20: woman named Cecily Gay who's out of Atlanta, and she

2593
02:32:36,520 --> 02:32:41,040
Speaker 20: was named quickly named board chair. I believe he was

2594
02:32:41,160 --> 02:32:45,680
Speaker 20: hiding behind her skirt because it looks it doesn't look

2595
02:32:45,720 --> 02:32:48,160
Speaker 20: as good for a man to be fighting a woman

2596
02:32:48,240 --> 02:32:51,440
Speaker 20: in the way that they were viciously fighting us. And

2597
02:32:51,520 --> 02:32:56,199
Speaker 20: so Cecily Gay is still there along with Djona Parker.

2598
02:32:56,720 --> 02:32:59,000
Speaker 20: And I can say I know, I do know who

2599
02:32:59,080 --> 02:33:03,080
Speaker 20: Djona Parker is, who was a sometimes member.

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02:33:03,080 --> 02:33:04,000
Speaker 9: In fact, she was.

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02:33:03,959 --> 02:33:07,599
Speaker 20: A student at cal statea Lay and she was assigned

2602
02:33:07,640 --> 02:33:12,040
Speaker 20: to actually volunteer with Black Lives Matter Los Angeles when

2603
02:33:12,080 --> 02:33:16,000
Speaker 20: she was a student. And she was a very, you know,

2604
02:33:16,720 --> 02:33:22,600
Speaker 20: low level person, meaning that she wasn't even you know, skilled.

2605
02:33:22,640 --> 02:33:25,440
Speaker 20: She didn't leave the team or anything like that. But

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02:33:26,360 --> 02:33:32,279
Speaker 20: none of these people have any background in leadership around

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02:33:32,320 --> 02:33:35,280
Speaker 20: Black Lives Matter or movement, nor they steeped in what

2608
02:33:35,680 --> 02:33:39,959
Speaker 20: black liberation work looks like. So I believe they're all guilty,

2609
02:33:40,480 --> 02:33:44,359
Speaker 20: and I believe that guilt though also can be redeemed

2610
02:33:44,560 --> 02:33:45,600
Speaker 20: if they do what's right.

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02:33:45,760 --> 02:33:47,040
Speaker 9: So Vjon A.

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02:33:47,200 --> 02:33:50,760
Speaker 20: Parker and Cecily Gay again have an opportunity to do

2613
02:33:50,840 --> 02:33:54,320
Speaker 20: what's right in hand over the resources to BLM Grassroots.

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02:33:54,480 --> 02:33:55,920
Speaker 1: All right, old, that's all right there. I've got a

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02:33:55,920 --> 02:33:57,800
Speaker 1: supiside for a few months and we'll come back. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: some politics. Family, you want to join this discus showing

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Speaker 1: with our guests that doctor Malina Abdullah reach out to

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Speaker 1: us at eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight

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Speaker 1: seventy six and will take your phone calls. Next and

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Speaker 1: Grant Rising family, thanks for rolling with us on this

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Speaker 1: Monday morning, finks for starting your week with us. At

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Speaker 1: twenty one minutes after the top, they are our guest,

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Speaker 1: doctor Malina Abdullah. Some of you may recall she was

2624
02:34:16,640 --> 02:34:19,760
Speaker 1: a former vice presidential candidate in the last the presidential election.

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02:34:19,840 --> 02:34:22,240
Speaker 1: She ran on the ticket with Cornell West and she's

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Speaker 1: also the founder of Black Lives Matter Grassroots and the

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Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter the other group that stole her group's

2628
02:34:28,440 --> 02:34:32,080
Speaker 1: identity and is now under investigation by the Justice Department.

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02:34:32,320 --> 02:34:35,640
Speaker 1: Before we talk politicians, your question, my question to you,

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02:34:35,959 --> 02:34:40,080
Speaker 1: doctor Abdullah, do you think this will impact fundraising for you?

2631
02:34:40,120 --> 02:34:42,959
Speaker 1: When people hear the Black Lives Matters on investigation for

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02:34:43,120 --> 02:34:46,000
Speaker 1: stealing by the Justice Department, they're going to hold back funds,

2633
02:34:46,040 --> 02:34:48,280
Speaker 1: just like how people did not know there were two

2634
02:34:48,320 --> 02:34:51,120
Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter? Do you think this will impact your fundraising?

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02:34:52,680 --> 02:34:56,959
Speaker 20: Well, our fundraising is very, very minimal. Our prayer is

2636
02:34:57,000 --> 02:35:00,240
Speaker 20: that the people who are donating to us, and we're

2637
02:35:00,240 --> 02:35:02,879
Speaker 20: pretty sure that the people who are donating to us

2638
02:35:03,320 --> 02:35:07,119
Speaker 20: know the difference between BLK Lives Matter, which if your

2639
02:35:07,160 --> 02:35:13,240
Speaker 20: listeners are following, they should immediately unfollow, and VLM Grassroots,

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02:35:13,280 --> 02:35:16,200
Speaker 20: which is our organization, and we hope that people follow

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02:35:16,720 --> 02:35:20,760
Speaker 20: VLM Grassroots. In order to donate to BLM Grassroots, you

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02:35:20,840 --> 02:35:24,440
Speaker 20: have to now at this point deliberately figure out who

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02:35:24,440 --> 02:35:27,879
Speaker 20: we are. So we don't think that it'll impact our fundraising.

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02:35:28,720 --> 02:35:32,519
Speaker 20: We hope, in fact, it'll increase our ability to fundraise.

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02:35:32,840 --> 02:35:35,879
Speaker 20: All of our money. We don't have any money that

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02:35:36,040 --> 02:35:39,840
Speaker 20: comes from major grants, We don't have money that comes

2647
02:35:39,879 --> 02:35:44,640
Speaker 20: from big, deep pocket donors. Mackenzie Scott hasn't figured out

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02:35:44,720 --> 02:35:47,920
Speaker 20: who we are yet and donated to us. So all

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02:35:47,959 --> 02:35:51,400
Speaker 20: of our money comes from boots on the ground organizers,

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02:35:51,440 --> 02:35:56,200
Speaker 20: comes from regular people, comes from mothers and grandmothers like

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02:35:56,280 --> 02:35:58,920
Speaker 20: my mama's and aunties who have their prayer circle for

2652
02:35:59,040 --> 02:36:02,200
Speaker 20: us every Wednesday. So that's who donates to us, and

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02:36:02,240 --> 02:36:06,160
Speaker 20: they tend to know the really righteous work that we're doing.

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02:36:07,160 --> 02:36:10,800
Speaker 20: The fundraising effort that we're engaged in right now is

2655
02:36:10,840 --> 02:36:16,320
Speaker 20: to fundraise for hurricane recovery in Jamaica, where we spent.

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02:36:16,200 --> 02:36:19,080
Speaker 9: Time in a place called a Compunk Town.

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02:36:18,920 --> 02:36:22,320
Speaker 20: Which is the Maroon Society built by Queen Nanny of

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02:36:22,360 --> 02:36:27,760
Speaker 20: the Maroons, and so that was completely destroyed by Hurricane Melissa.

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02:36:27,879 --> 02:36:31,840
Speaker 20: And we're working with the residents, with the Maroons, with

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02:36:31,959 --> 02:36:35,400
Speaker 20: the righteous black folks who took their own freedom back

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02:36:35,400 --> 02:36:39,080
Speaker 20: in the seventeen hundreds to rebuild a place that's so

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02:36:39,240 --> 02:36:42,959
Speaker 20: important both spiritually and as an example of what it

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02:36:43,080 --> 02:36:45,160
Speaker 20: means to have black.

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02:36:44,920 --> 02:36:47,400
Speaker 9: Sovereign space for black people.

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02:36:47,480 --> 02:36:50,480
Speaker 20: And so when people donate, that's where the money goes and.

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02:36:50,480 --> 02:36:53,000
Speaker 9: They can see it. They can see.

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02:36:52,680 --> 02:36:56,840
Speaker 20: When they donate that we go to Lubbock and challenge

2668
02:36:57,480 --> 02:37:01,000
Speaker 20: DA that has refused to prosecute a sheriff that killed

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02:37:01,000 --> 02:37:03,440
Speaker 20: a young black boy. They can see it when they

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02:37:03,480 --> 02:37:06,840
Speaker 20: watch our Mississippi work and the exposure of the goon

2671
02:37:06,959 --> 02:37:10,000
Speaker 20: squad there. They can see it in California when we

2672
02:37:10,040 --> 02:37:12,240
Speaker 20: do work in the name of Wakisha Wilson, where we

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02:37:12,640 --> 02:37:16,560
Speaker 20: just passed the first law in the entire state of

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02:37:16,600 --> 02:37:20,160
Speaker 20: California named in honor of a black woman, which requires

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02:37:20,240 --> 02:37:24,160
Speaker 20: twenty four hour family notification when someone is killed inside

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02:37:24,200 --> 02:37:28,480
Speaker 20: a detention center or jail. So our donors are really

2677
02:37:28,560 --> 02:37:32,320
Speaker 20: tapped into who we are, and their donations are usually

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02:37:32,360 --> 02:37:35,160
Speaker 20: between one and ten dollars a piece. So we got

2679
02:37:35,160 --> 02:37:39,600
Speaker 20: some recurring donations of one dollar a month, and we're

2680
02:37:39,640 --> 02:37:43,959
Speaker 20: grateful to those donors because again there are people who

2681
02:37:44,000 --> 02:37:46,400
Speaker 20: are tapped into the work and believe in the righteous

2682
02:37:46,400 --> 02:37:47,119
Speaker 20: work that we do.

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02:37:47,959 --> 02:37:50,360
Speaker 1: Got it twenty five at the top that with doctor

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02:37:50,400 --> 02:37:54,879
Speaker 1: Malina Abdula, Doctor Malina, So, were you surprised the Donecrafts

2685
02:37:54,920 --> 02:37:57,080
Speaker 1: caved in this fight, this stalemate?

2686
02:38:00,320 --> 02:38:01,800
Speaker 9: Was I surprise that who caved in?

2687
02:38:02,520 --> 02:38:04,640
Speaker 1: The Democrats? The Democratic senators?

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02:38:07,000 --> 02:38:10,039
Speaker 9: Oh you mean in the you know, I missed it, Carl.

2689
02:38:10,240 --> 02:38:12,039
Speaker 9: I didn't realize, did they cave in.

2690
02:38:13,520 --> 02:38:13,840
Speaker 4: Of them.

2691
02:38:15,040 --> 02:38:18,800
Speaker 20: Oh that's terrible. No, I'm not surprised. So you're breaking

2692
02:38:18,840 --> 02:38:23,280
Speaker 20: the news to me because it's six am here here

2693
02:38:23,320 --> 02:38:27,800
Speaker 20: and on the West Coast. So no, I'm not surprised.

2694
02:38:27,879 --> 02:38:30,720
Speaker 20: I'm disappointed, which mean because that means they sold out

2695
02:38:30,720 --> 02:38:35,840
Speaker 20: our health care. So I'm disappointed. I wanted to see

2696
02:38:35,879 --> 02:38:41,880
Speaker 20: them stand strong. They should have forced the absolute devil

2697
02:38:42,560 --> 02:38:44,959
Speaker 20: in office to caven. And I'm not saying that the

2698
02:38:45,000 --> 02:38:47,600
Speaker 20: Democrats are righteous. You know where I am. I'm neither

2699
02:38:48,040 --> 02:38:51,520
Speaker 20: a Democrat or a Republican. I believe both of the

2700
02:38:51,560 --> 02:38:55,360
Speaker 20: parties are corporate owned. And I think that this further

2701
02:38:55,560 --> 02:38:59,920
Speaker 20: tells how much a hand corporations have in it, because

2702
02:39:00,400 --> 02:39:03,280
Speaker 20: you're looking at you know, when you talk about impacts

2703
02:39:03,320 --> 02:39:08,800
Speaker 20: on flights, when you talk about companies like American Airlines

2704
02:39:08,959 --> 02:39:13,520
Speaker 20: having to provide refunds to people and losing profit that

2705
02:39:13,640 --> 02:39:15,680
Speaker 20: I think that that has a lot to do with

2706
02:39:15,760 --> 02:39:16,280
Speaker 20: the caving.

2707
02:39:17,560 --> 02:39:20,960
Speaker 1: How much did I'm trying to get your thoughts. Let

2708
02:39:21,000 --> 02:39:23,760
Speaker 1: me put it this way. Last Tuesday's the elections where

2709
02:39:23,800 --> 02:39:26,200
Speaker 1: the Democrats seem to come out on top. It seems

2710
02:39:26,200 --> 02:39:29,520
Speaker 1: to have found the stride. And now this morning or

2711
02:39:29,600 --> 02:39:32,640
Speaker 1: late last night they cave in on the budget issue.

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02:39:33,080 --> 02:39:35,560
Speaker 1: You know, how much how much do you think that

2713
02:39:35,600 --> 02:39:38,520
Speaker 1: they should have taken that experience, that lift if you will.

2714
02:39:38,520 --> 02:39:40,280
Speaker 1: It seems like this is what they were looking for

2715
02:39:40,560 --> 02:39:44,280
Speaker 1: last Tuesday's election and still a stand up and not

2716
02:39:44,360 --> 02:39:46,440
Speaker 1: cave into to the Republicans on this bill.

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02:39:46,600 --> 02:39:47,680
Speaker 4: On the budget bill.

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02:39:49,000 --> 02:39:55,680
Speaker 20: Yeah, I mean, I think that mainstream Democrats and I'm

2719
02:39:55,720 --> 02:39:59,120
Speaker 20: saying mainstream Democrats because you have a few exceptions. You have,

2720
02:39:59,680 --> 02:40:02,800
Speaker 20: you know, your Corey Bush's who's running for re election

2721
02:40:02,959 --> 02:40:03,640
Speaker 20: even though she.

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02:40:03,680 --> 02:40:05,920
Speaker 9: Was primaried out of her seat in Saint Louis.

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02:40:07,080 --> 02:40:10,680
Speaker 20: You do have a momentum that's building around progressive and

2724
02:40:10,720 --> 02:40:13,640
Speaker 20: I think that's what Mamdanie in New York represents. Even

2725
02:40:13,720 --> 02:40:18,520
Speaker 20: here on the West Coast with the passage overwhelming landslide.

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02:40:17,959 --> 02:40:20,600
Speaker 9: Victory of Prop fifty, I think it's an.

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02:40:20,480 --> 02:40:26,480
Speaker 20: Indicator that voters and residents of this country want to

2728
02:40:26,560 --> 02:40:34,240
Speaker 20: be progressive, we want to be more transformational in our approach. Unfortunately,

2729
02:40:35,160 --> 02:40:40,200
Speaker 20: you know, many Democrats are mainstream politicians who simply want

2730
02:40:40,240 --> 02:40:40,680
Speaker 20: to get.

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02:40:40,480 --> 02:40:42,959
Speaker 9: Elected and re elected, and.

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Speaker 20: I think that if they continue to cave and that's

2733
02:40:47,320 --> 02:40:51,120
Speaker 20: really disappointing to hear that they caved with this government

2734
02:40:51,200 --> 02:40:56,480
Speaker 20: shut down, that they are proving that they are again

2735
02:40:56,760 --> 02:41:00,240
Speaker 20: owned by corporate capitalist interests.

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02:41:00,160 --> 02:41:01,240
Speaker 9: Betraying the people.

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02:41:01,640 --> 02:41:05,560
Speaker 20: Now, I know they'll hide behind the fact that, you know,

2738
02:41:05,640 --> 02:41:09,320
Speaker 20: people are not receiving SNAP benefits or not their full

2739
02:41:09,360 --> 02:41:12,199
Speaker 20: SNAP benefits. I know that they'll hide behind the fact

2740
02:41:12,640 --> 02:41:17,480
Speaker 20: that TSA workers are working for free, and those are

2741
02:41:17,560 --> 02:41:22,800
Speaker 20: real harms and pains. However, you don't throw in the

2742
02:41:23,040 --> 02:41:26,920
Speaker 20: entire war. As people are saying to you, they're ready

2743
02:41:27,040 --> 02:41:30,400
Speaker 20: for the battle. People have been saying that's what Tuesday's

2744
02:41:30,440 --> 02:41:34,080
Speaker 20: election results are. People are ready for the battle. New

2745
02:41:34,200 --> 02:41:37,920
Speaker 20: Yorkers are ready for the battle. Californians are ready for

2746
02:41:37,959 --> 02:41:41,080
Speaker 20: the battle. And they were gearing up and they were engaging.

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02:41:41,120 --> 02:41:43,080
Speaker 20: And if you look at things like the way that

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02:41:43,760 --> 02:41:48,600
Speaker 20: Mutual Aid has been moving in cities all across this country.

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02:41:48,959 --> 02:41:51,520
Speaker 20: Last night we had our Black Lives Matter Los Angeles

2750
02:41:51,560 --> 02:41:55,480
Speaker 20: meeting where we gave out hundreds of fresh produce bags,

2751
02:41:55,600 --> 02:41:59,240
Speaker 20: and we know we put together a list of places

2752
02:41:59,240 --> 02:42:02,760
Speaker 20: where people can though, and people have been willing to

2753
02:42:03,040 --> 02:42:06,120
Speaker 20: fill the gap so that we can have the longer

2754
02:42:06,200 --> 02:42:09,760
Speaker 20: war and win something that's substantial for our people. And

2755
02:42:09,840 --> 02:42:14,240
Speaker 20: so it's disappointing to hear that Democrats are more concerned

2756
02:42:14,280 --> 02:42:18,480
Speaker 20: with their seats than fighting for what the people really need,

2757
02:42:18,560 --> 02:42:22,400
Speaker 20: including things like healthcare, health care for all.

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Speaker 1: Thirty minutes at the top of our family, I guess

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02:42:26,560 --> 02:42:29,000
Speaker 1: it's doctor Melina abdullas them. As you may recall the

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02:42:29,080 --> 02:42:33,039
Speaker 1: last presidential elections years the vice presidential candidate along with

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Speaker 1: Cornell west Running and some of the things that they exposed.

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Speaker 1: We're now seeing that Mandonnie's talking about the same thing.

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Speaker 1: So we surprised that he attracted he got some sort

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02:42:42,840 --> 02:42:46,480
Speaker 1: of momentum going for the Democrats by espousing what you

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02:42:46,520 --> 02:42:49,560
Speaker 1: guys were saying on the presidential race, and he did

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02:42:49,600 --> 02:42:52,320
Speaker 1: that in New York City and people got behind him.

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02:42:52,400 --> 02:42:53,879
Speaker 1: Were you surprised about that?

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02:42:55,520 --> 02:42:59,280
Speaker 9: I am so encouraged. I'm so encouraged.

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02:42:59,360 --> 02:43:02,560
Speaker 20: And there's a lot of data that's coming out that

2770
02:43:02,680 --> 02:43:06,600
Speaker 20: again validates some positions right that Mam Donnie.

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Speaker 9: You know his platform.

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02:43:07,920 --> 02:43:13,119
Speaker 20: Now, people are less likely to attach themselves to the

2773
02:43:13,600 --> 02:43:18,080
Speaker 20: kind of socialist ideology in name, but when you talk

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02:43:18,120 --> 02:43:22,800
Speaker 20: about the policies, people are overwhelmingly in support of it.

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02:43:22,879 --> 02:43:25,440
Speaker 9: So I have seen some national.

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02:43:26,440 --> 02:43:31,680
Speaker 20: Research on some of Mamdanni's platforms that over eighty percent

2777
02:43:31,720 --> 02:43:36,840
Speaker 20: of Americans are in supportive higher wages for working class people,

2778
02:43:37,800 --> 02:43:41,600
Speaker 20: the thirty dollars an hour minimum wage that Mamdani is

2779
02:43:41,640 --> 02:43:46,840
Speaker 20: working on. People believe in free transportation right, and they

2780
02:43:46,879 --> 02:43:49,840
Speaker 20: should because it's logical. I know here in Los Angeles,

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02:43:50,000 --> 02:43:55,160
Speaker 20: if they just did away with Metro police, which are

2782
02:43:55,200 --> 02:43:58,880
Speaker 20: there to enforce fares, they could have free fares. If

2783
02:43:58,879 --> 02:44:02,400
Speaker 20: they'd stop spending on the police that harm people and

2784
02:44:02,480 --> 02:44:06,119
Speaker 20: kill people on train platforms, which is what we've had

2785
02:44:06,560 --> 02:44:10,480
Speaker 20: happened several times in LA, they could actually make they're

2786
02:44:10,560 --> 02:44:14,720
Speaker 20: chasing people for fair evasion, they could actually make fares

2787
02:44:14,800 --> 02:44:17,720
Speaker 20: free in the first place, and people want that. I'm

2788
02:44:17,840 --> 02:44:21,400
Speaker 20: encouraged by the fact that people say, yeah, childcare should

2789
02:44:21,400 --> 02:44:24,320
Speaker 20: be free. I remember when my children were little, it

2790
02:44:24,360 --> 02:44:27,199
Speaker 20: was a higher expense. I had three children in childcare

2791
02:44:27,280 --> 02:44:30,680
Speaker 20: all at the same time. The expense for childcare was

2792
02:44:30,760 --> 02:44:34,880
Speaker 20: more than my mortgage payment. And so people believe in

2793
02:44:35,000 --> 02:44:38,400
Speaker 20: childcare for all, free childcare. And so when you think

2794
02:44:38,440 --> 02:44:43,160
Speaker 20: about the platforms that are really socialists, even though people

2795
02:44:43,200 --> 02:44:49,600
Speaker 20: avoid that label socialist ideology, even if it's democratic socialism

2796
02:44:49,879 --> 02:44:52,440
Speaker 20: where they've been so brainwashed that they think that they

2797
02:44:52,480 --> 02:44:55,040
Speaker 20: can't say it, but they do believe in those policies.

2798
02:44:55,520 --> 02:44:58,000
Speaker 20: That part is not a surprise. We know what the

2799
02:44:58,040 --> 02:45:01,840
Speaker 20: people believe. People believe that people should have a safe

2800
02:45:01,879 --> 02:45:04,800
Speaker 20: place to live, they should have food, they should have

2801
02:45:04,879 --> 02:45:07,520
Speaker 20: health care, they should have the things that meet the

2802
02:45:07,520 --> 02:45:11,199
Speaker 20: basic needs of our folks. And it's encouraging to see

2803
02:45:11,240 --> 02:45:15,160
Speaker 20: that meet out with the New York victory of Zoramandani.

2804
02:45:15,440 --> 02:45:17,400
Speaker 20: And what else is a private And Carl, I don't know,

2805
02:45:17,440 --> 02:45:21,359
Speaker 20: did you see the exit polling on the Jewish vote,

2806
02:45:21,720 --> 02:45:24,560
Speaker 20: Because what they tried to do is tell us that

2807
02:45:25,120 --> 02:45:28,320
Speaker 20: Jews will never vote for this. He's a Muslim and

2808
02:45:28,440 --> 02:45:32,880
Speaker 20: Jews will never vote for him. But Jews under fifty

2809
02:45:33,120 --> 02:45:40,160
Speaker 20: overwhelmingly voted for Mamdani, and Jews overall voted in large

2810
02:45:40,240 --> 02:45:44,279
Speaker 20: numbers for Mamdani, not in the majority. So it also

2811
02:45:44,400 --> 02:45:48,560
Speaker 20: is not true that when they try to collapse Judaism

2812
02:45:48,640 --> 02:45:51,680
Speaker 20: and Zionism, those two things are not the same. And

2813
02:45:51,800 --> 02:45:55,480
Speaker 20: most younger Jews actually do believe in a free Palestine

2814
02:45:55,800 --> 02:46:01,119
Speaker 20: and the end to financing a genocidal state of Israel.

2815
02:46:02,160 --> 02:46:02,959
Speaker 4: Well, let me ask you this.

2816
02:46:03,120 --> 02:46:06,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did see that, and to a broad extent,

2817
02:46:06,240 --> 02:46:10,680
Speaker 1: the Hispanics supported the gubatal races in New Jersey and Virginia.

2818
02:46:10,720 --> 02:46:14,000
Speaker 1: But the question, though, back to Mandannie. The question people ask,

2819
02:46:14,320 --> 02:46:15,320
Speaker 1: who's going to pay for it?

2820
02:46:15,520 --> 02:46:15,760
Speaker 4: You want?

2821
02:46:15,800 --> 02:46:17,880
Speaker 1: You want all this free stuffy, all the pie is

2822
02:46:17,959 --> 02:46:20,080
Speaker 1: only big, So who's going to pay for it?

2823
02:46:21,080 --> 02:46:25,560
Speaker 20: Your response, well, you can start by making Wall Street

2824
02:46:25,600 --> 02:46:28,800
Speaker 20: pay their fear share in taxes. You can start by

2825
02:46:28,840 --> 02:46:31,960
Speaker 20: making the rich pay their fear share in taxes. How

2826
02:46:32,000 --> 02:46:36,920
Speaker 20: did Elon Musk, simultaneous to people's snap benefits getting cut,

2827
02:46:37,320 --> 02:46:44,360
Speaker 20: become the world's first trillionaire. You know, Tesla is one

2828
02:46:44,400 --> 02:46:47,600
Speaker 20: of the greatest recipients of corporate welfare.

2829
02:46:48,040 --> 02:46:51,600
Speaker 9: And so you can stop doing these giveaways and.

2830
02:46:51,600 --> 02:46:56,000
Speaker 20: Start making corporations and rich people pay their fair share

2831
02:46:56,040 --> 02:46:58,879
Speaker 20: of taxes. And I know it's not popular to say anymore,

2832
02:46:59,360 --> 02:47:02,480
Speaker 20: but I still believe it that you can also defund

2833
02:47:02,480 --> 02:47:05,560
Speaker 20: the police. There's no reason in major cities, including New

2834
02:47:05,640 --> 02:47:09,640
Speaker 20: York and Los Angeles and DC, that police are getting

2835
02:47:09,760 --> 02:47:12,880
Speaker 20: half of our general funds when you can be using

2836
02:47:12,920 --> 02:47:16,280
Speaker 20: those funds to pay for universal childcare. So it's not

2837
02:47:16,560 --> 02:47:20,800
Speaker 20: actually and there is a plan, it's not actually hard

2838
02:47:20,840 --> 02:47:25,400
Speaker 20: to finance these things. And when you talk about things

2839
02:47:25,480 --> 02:47:28,840
Speaker 20: like quality after school programs for young people. When you

2840
02:47:28,920 --> 02:47:33,600
Speaker 20: talk about free transportation, you're actually saving money in the

2841
02:47:33,640 --> 02:47:38,359
Speaker 20: long run, because if you're arresting people for jumping turnstiles

2842
02:47:38,400 --> 02:47:42,040
Speaker 20: in the subway, there's a whole cost that goes with that,

2843
02:47:42,240 --> 02:47:45,840
Speaker 20: not just for the arrest, but the entire triggering of

2844
02:47:45,879 --> 02:47:51,000
Speaker 20: the criminal legal system, which then spends your taxpayer dollars

2845
02:47:51,520 --> 02:47:54,920
Speaker 20: to lock people up for not having enough money to

2846
02:47:55,040 --> 02:47:58,840
Speaker 20: pay for what should be public transportation. So there's actually

2847
02:47:58,920 --> 02:48:03,039
Speaker 20: money to be saved by shifting money into those things

2848
02:48:03,760 --> 02:48:09,000
Speaker 20: like free childcare, like quality food, and like free transportation.

2849
02:48:09,959 --> 02:48:12,240
Speaker 1: Got it twenty five away from the top. Bob's in

2850
02:48:12,240 --> 02:48:14,520
Speaker 1: Buffalo has a question for you. He's on line three

2851
02:48:14,680 --> 02:48:18,240
Speaker 1: Grand Rise and Bobby question for doctor Malina Abdullah.

2852
02:48:18,720 --> 02:48:21,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, blessed Love. First, I want to thank her for

2853
02:48:21,400 --> 02:48:24,080
Speaker 7: a little good work that you do, and especially shut

2854
02:48:24,120 --> 02:48:27,600
Speaker 7: Off and sister carry o'horn, who represents you well here.

2855
02:48:28,840 --> 02:48:31,880
Speaker 7: But my question is I want us in my comment,

2856
02:48:32,040 --> 02:48:35,240
Speaker 7: I want us to send a hedge of protection around

2857
02:48:35,280 --> 02:48:38,560
Speaker 7: you and your organization. You do a very good job

2858
02:48:38,640 --> 02:48:41,920
Speaker 7: explaining the difference on this radio station, and it's enlightened

2859
02:48:41,920 --> 02:48:46,680
Speaker 7: many of us. But the Justice Department, which is Trump's

2860
02:48:47,080 --> 02:48:51,920
Speaker 7: Justice Department, speaks Fox doesn't speak plain English. And when

2861
02:48:51,920 --> 02:48:56,640
Speaker 7: they've turned a term like progressive into a negative term,

2862
02:48:56,920 --> 02:49:04,600
Speaker 7: how do you protect yourself from being misidentified with the cooks? Well,

2863
02:49:04,640 --> 02:49:07,320
Speaker 7: do you think they're actually going active cooks or are

2864
02:49:07,400 --> 02:49:10,840
Speaker 7: part of the cooks who set up the extortion of

2865
02:49:10,879 --> 02:49:13,120
Speaker 7: Black Lives Matter in the first place. Is a way

2866
02:49:13,120 --> 02:49:17,680
Speaker 7: to do your positive work and positive energy too.

2867
02:49:17,800 --> 02:49:19,800
Speaker 1: I hold your response, doctor Milim. We gotta step aside

2868
02:49:19,800 --> 02:49:21,280
Speaker 1: for a few moments. I'll let you respond to it

2869
02:49:21,320 --> 02:49:24,200
Speaker 1: when we get back. Family YouTube can join this conversation

2870
02:49:24,280 --> 02:49:27,120
Speaker 1: with our guest, doctor Milina Abdullah. She, of course, she

2871
02:49:27,200 --> 02:49:29,800
Speaker 1: was a vice presidential candidate running with the Corner of the

2872
02:49:29,800 --> 02:49:31,960
Speaker 1: West in the last election of talking puntics, also talking

2873
02:49:31,959 --> 02:49:35,879
Speaker 1: about Black Lives Matter. She represents Blacks Lives Matter Grassroots,

2874
02:49:35,920 --> 02:49:38,120
Speaker 1: two different organizations, and I'm glad she was here to

2875
02:49:38,120 --> 02:49:40,879
Speaker 1: clarify that because many people think they're the same. But

2876
02:49:40,920 --> 02:49:43,280
Speaker 1: I'll let her respond to Bob in Buffalo's question when

2877
02:49:43,320 --> 02:49:45,320
Speaker 1: we get back eight hundred and four or five zero

2878
02:49:45,400 --> 02:49:47,800
Speaker 1: seventy eight seventy six, you two couldn't reach a doctor

2879
02:49:47,800 --> 02:49:49,600
Speaker 1: Milina Abdilla just call that number and we take the

2880
02:49:49,640 --> 02:49:53,480
Speaker 1: calls next and grant rising family eighteen minutes away from

2881
02:49:53,480 --> 02:49:55,879
Speaker 1: the top of that with I guess of doctor Malina

2882
02:49:55,920 --> 02:49:59,960
Speaker 1: Abdulla from Black Lives Matter Grassroots in Los Angeles talking

2883
02:50:00,080 --> 02:50:02,280
Speaker 1: politics and also talking about Black Lives Matter. So the

2884
02:50:02,360 --> 02:50:04,280
Speaker 1: last before we left for the breakfast, speaking with Bob,

2885
02:50:04,440 --> 02:50:06,200
Speaker 1: I'm buffalo, and then he had a question for you.

2886
02:50:06,240 --> 02:50:08,959
Speaker 1: So Doctor Many, I'll let you respond to Bob's question.

2887
02:50:10,640 --> 02:50:12,880
Speaker 20: So, first of all, I want to thank him for

2888
02:50:12,920 --> 02:50:15,440
Speaker 20: supporting Sister Carriel, and I want to thank him for

2889
02:50:15,520 --> 02:50:16,279
Speaker 20: as prayers.

2890
02:50:16,520 --> 02:50:18,360
Speaker 9: So what does keep us protected?

2891
02:50:18,440 --> 02:50:18,560
Speaker 4: Is?

2892
02:50:18,600 --> 02:50:22,279
Speaker 20: I mentioned that my mom and my aunties and lots

2893
02:50:22,320 --> 02:50:25,760
Speaker 20: of our elders they do a prayer circle intentionally for

2894
02:50:25,840 --> 02:50:28,440
Speaker 20: Black Lives Matter, grass Roots and the movement on the ground.

2895
02:50:29,000 --> 02:50:31,200
Speaker 9: Every Wednesday they have this prayer call.

2896
02:50:31,360 --> 02:50:34,480
Speaker 20: That we do have a clergy for Black Lives who

2897
02:50:34,480 --> 02:50:37,599
Speaker 20: does a lot of spiritual work from all faith traditions

2898
02:50:38,040 --> 02:50:41,920
Speaker 20: to protect the folks on the ground. That we also

2899
02:50:42,080 --> 02:50:47,800
Speaker 20: have a lead for our spiritual work, Sister Karen, who

2900
02:50:47,879 --> 02:50:51,680
Speaker 20: does intentional work twice a week to do prayer work.

2901
02:50:51,720 --> 02:50:55,840
Speaker 20: We believe that the spiritual work is as vital as

2902
02:50:55,840 --> 02:50:58,760
Speaker 20: the work on the front lines, and so we're grateful

2903
02:50:58,800 --> 02:51:02,080
Speaker 20: for his prayers, grateful for the hedge of protection. We're

2904
02:51:02,200 --> 02:51:05,440
Speaker 20: especially grateful for his support for sister carry O Horn,

2905
02:51:05,959 --> 02:51:09,959
Speaker 20: who's a tremendous force up in Buffalo, who's the only

2906
02:51:10,160 --> 02:51:13,400
Speaker 20: former cop we've ever allowed in our midst and it's

2907
02:51:13,440 --> 02:51:18,360
Speaker 20: because she put her commitment to black people first. Sister

2908
02:51:18,440 --> 02:51:22,440
Speaker 20: Carriel was fired from Buffalo Police Department for intervening when

2909
02:51:22,480 --> 02:51:27,480
Speaker 20: a cop attacked a black man, and she was really

2910
02:51:27,520 --> 02:51:32,160
Speaker 20: really seriously retaliated against. They fired her, they took away

2911
02:51:32,160 --> 02:51:35,440
Speaker 20: her pension, they attempted to prosecute her, and they've been

2912
02:51:35,440 --> 02:51:39,400
Speaker 20: targeting her and her family ever since, including locking up

2913
02:51:39,400 --> 02:51:43,400
Speaker 20: her son, including trying to get her convicted for intervening

2914
02:51:43,480 --> 02:51:48,280
Speaker 20: again when she witnessed them brutalizing two black women in

2915
02:51:48,280 --> 02:51:51,480
Speaker 20: the midst of a snowstorm. Even as a private citizen.

2916
02:51:51,600 --> 02:51:56,840
Speaker 20: This grandmother intervened physically in their abusive folks, So please,

2917
02:51:56,920 --> 02:52:01,840
Speaker 20: brother Bob, continue to support and protect Sisters carry I'll

2918
02:52:01,840 --> 02:52:04,200
Speaker 20: say this, and I think that something he brought up

2919
02:52:04,280 --> 02:52:08,400
Speaker 20: is really important. One of the reasons that and folks

2920
02:52:08,440 --> 02:52:13,519
Speaker 20: can see the statement after the DOJ investigation was announced

2921
02:52:13,640 --> 02:52:17,800
Speaker 20: that the global Network Foundation actually denies the investigation. Their

2922
02:52:17,920 --> 02:52:23,760
Speaker 20: statement said there's no investigation, but the Washington Post AP News,

2923
02:52:23,800 --> 02:52:27,480
Speaker 20: which are pretty credible media outlets, I'll say that there is.

2924
02:52:27,520 --> 02:52:30,440
Speaker 20: They even named where the investigation was coming out of

2925
02:52:30,560 --> 02:52:34,200
Speaker 20: in California and who's in charge of it. That we

2926
02:52:34,320 --> 02:52:40,840
Speaker 20: know that an investigation by a Trump regime does not

2927
02:52:41,360 --> 02:52:47,800
Speaker 20: protect us from also becoming subject to an investigation. So

2928
02:52:48,160 --> 02:52:52,120
Speaker 20: when you have the devil in charge, right, anything is possible.

2929
02:52:52,120 --> 02:52:55,040
Speaker 20: And we got to remember that. At the end of September,

2930
02:52:55,400 --> 02:53:00,880
Speaker 20: Trump signs this terrible presidential memo that is an attempt

2931
02:53:01,080 --> 02:53:07,640
Speaker 20: by his administration, by his regime to criminalize any kind

2932
02:53:07,680 --> 02:53:08,439
Speaker 20: of protest.

2933
02:53:08,720 --> 02:53:12,439
Speaker 9: And so he named organizations.

2934
02:53:12,760 --> 02:53:16,680
Speaker 20: He named one was antifool good Luck's find in Them Right,

2935
02:53:16,760 --> 02:53:20,039
Speaker 20: but he named Black Lives Matter. He didn't specifically say

2936
02:53:20,480 --> 02:53:23,080
Speaker 20: what part of Black Lives Matter he's looking at, although

2937
02:53:23,160 --> 02:53:28,000
Speaker 20: the investigation is of the Global Network Foundation. But he

2938
02:53:28,120 --> 02:53:31,840
Speaker 20: also named tactics, so he said things like, you know,

2939
02:53:31,920 --> 02:53:37,160
Speaker 20: going after elected officials at their homes and offices. Is

2940
02:53:37,280 --> 02:53:40,200
Speaker 20: he called that criminal. Well, that's something that we do

2941
02:53:40,280 --> 02:53:43,240
Speaker 20: with regularity and plan to continue to do. We plan

2942
02:53:43,400 --> 02:53:47,640
Speaker 20: to hold elected officials accountable. We plan to hold police

2943
02:53:47,720 --> 02:53:50,960
Speaker 20: who kill our people accountable, and we do them. We're

2944
02:53:51,000 --> 02:53:52,760
Speaker 20: not going to let up. We're not going to be

2945
02:53:53,840 --> 02:53:55,920
Speaker 20: scared out of doing the work that we know that

2946
02:53:55,959 --> 02:53:59,160
Speaker 20: we're called in to do. So thank you to Brother Bob,

2947
02:53:59,200 --> 02:54:01,320
Speaker 20: and we ask every if you can't be on the

2948
02:54:01,360 --> 02:54:05,039
Speaker 20: front lines with us, please engage in prayer for us.

2949
02:54:05,440 --> 02:54:08,600
Speaker 20: Please use your voice to say that Black Lives Matter

2950
02:54:08,640 --> 02:54:12,600
Speaker 20: Grassroots is still moving the righteous work that is absolutely needed.

2951
02:54:13,480 --> 02:54:17,119
Speaker 20: And please donate. If you can donate, please donate so.

2952
02:54:17,080 --> 02:54:20,400
Speaker 9: That our work is supported.

2953
02:54:20,440 --> 02:54:24,000
Speaker 20: It costs money to get on flights and go to Lubbock,

2954
02:54:24,120 --> 02:54:28,920
Speaker 20: or cost money to lodge the folks who are doing

2955
02:54:29,000 --> 02:54:31,640
Speaker 20: work on the ground. I know sister Sharon Erskine's mom

2956
02:54:31,720 --> 02:54:34,560
Speaker 20: had to do a turnaround and go back to Lubbock

2957
02:54:34,640 --> 02:54:36,760
Speaker 20: after we spent all last week in Lubbock.

2958
02:54:36,840 --> 02:54:38,279
Speaker 9: She's going back this week.

2959
02:54:38,080 --> 02:54:42,520
Speaker 20: Because the county commissioners are having a meeting about the

2960
02:54:43,959 --> 02:54:48,280
Speaker 20: criminal investigation, the possibility of a criminal investigation against the

2961
02:54:48,280 --> 02:54:51,320
Speaker 20: sheriff who killed her son. So all of that costs money,

2962
02:54:51,320 --> 02:54:54,000
Speaker 20: and so when people donate, that's where it goes to.

2963
02:54:55,320 --> 02:54:57,080
Speaker 1: Gotcha, I thought you and away from the top Dad

2964
02:54:57,160 --> 02:54:59,960
Speaker 1: jobs Next Jay I is calling from Ohio. She's online

2965
02:55:00,080 --> 02:55:02,920
Speaker 1: to grand rising doctor Malina Abdullah.

2966
02:55:03,920 --> 02:55:07,560
Speaker 21: Thank you for taking my call. First thing I would

2967
02:55:07,600 --> 02:55:10,000
Speaker 21: say is I feel that it's a little tooth for

2968
02:55:10,120 --> 02:55:14,280
Speaker 21: folks that are warm and have all the transportation they

2969
02:55:14,360 --> 02:55:19,400
Speaker 21: need and the privilege of paying a mortgage versus a

2970
02:55:19,480 --> 02:55:26,039
Speaker 21: rent to tell folks that really do need these services

2971
02:55:26,080 --> 02:55:31,400
Speaker 21: to go in the right now that you know it's there.

2972
02:55:31,520 --> 02:55:34,280
Speaker 21: Somehow they should be opening themselves up to all the

2973
02:55:34,320 --> 02:55:38,080
Speaker 21: other methods of being fed and things of that nature.

2974
02:55:38,120 --> 02:55:38,800
Speaker 5: So that's just.

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Speaker 21: Something that I see in passing and kind of loves

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Speaker 21: me the wrong way. But what I would like your

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Speaker 21: guest to speak to, and admittedly I have not looked

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Speaker 21: up so called Black Lives Matter of grassroots, so I

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02:55:53,800 --> 02:55:57,360
Speaker 21: have not done some research on that myself. But as

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Speaker 21: we know, there's a lot of name gaming around the

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Speaker 21: Black Lives Matter platforms, even such that we know there's

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Speaker 21: groups called the Movement for Black Lives. There's always these

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Speaker 21: various names. But what I find is most of you

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Speaker 21: all are congruent about your mission, and those missions typically

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02:56:19,480 --> 02:56:24,959
Speaker 21: embrace a number of things that usually take priority over

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Speaker 21: Black lives. And so in closing, if you could speak

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Speaker 21: to what would be your position or this organization's position

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Speaker 21: that makes you different from Black Lives Matter in terms

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Speaker 21: of acknowledging men as women also blatantly blanketing black people

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Speaker 21: or so called the black community of transphobics or homophobics,

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Speaker 21: and your position on you know, just the mythed gendering

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Speaker 21: and I'm embracing pro nows and all these things that

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Speaker 21: typically go with those who use that of names. And

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Speaker 21: that's the short version I'll listen here.

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Speaker 20: So I'm grateful for the call because it allows me

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Speaker 20: to speak to it.

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Speaker 17: One.

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Speaker 20: I'm not going to apologize for the fact that I'm

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Speaker 20: a single mother of three children and was able to

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Speaker 20: buy a house in two thousand and one before housing

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02:57:29,240 --> 02:57:32,720
Speaker 20: got out of control. What I'm paying for my mortgage

3002
02:57:33,000 --> 02:57:35,520
Speaker 20: is less than the average rent for a one bedroom

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Speaker 20: apartment in Los Angeles. So I'm not going to apologize

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02:57:40,200 --> 02:57:42,920
Speaker 20: for that. I'm grateful for that, and I believe everybody

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Speaker 20: should have that. I believe everybody has a right to housing,

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Speaker 20: and I'll fight vigorously for everybody to have a right

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Speaker 20: to housing, for everybody to live in a place that's

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Speaker 20: safe and warm and has enough food. I will fight

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Speaker 20: for that, and I'm not going to apologize for the

3010
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Speaker 20: fact that I have that.

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Speaker 9: I'm grateful that I have that.

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Speaker 20: Second, I'll say that her challenge is absolutely with merit

3013
02:58:09,840 --> 02:58:13,320
Speaker 20: because in Black Lives Matter, we believe that all black

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Speaker 20: lives matter, Queer black lives matter, trans, black lives matter, Mama,

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02:58:19,000 --> 02:58:22,960
Speaker 20: black mamas matter, black daddy's matter, black baba's matter, Black

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02:58:23,000 --> 02:58:26,360
Speaker 20: incarcerated folks matter. And so no, we're not going to

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02:58:26,480 --> 02:58:30,720
Speaker 20: throw black trans folks under the bus. We love our

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02:58:30,800 --> 02:58:34,640
Speaker 20: black trans siblings and we're going to fight for their freedom,

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Speaker 20: just as we fight for the freedom of all black people.

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Speaker 1: Got you, I thank you Jr. For your questions. Eight

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Speaker 1: hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six. You can

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Speaker 1: use that lyne to get in to speak to doctor

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Speaker 1: Ameliana Abdullah. Let's toss some more politics at doctor Abdullah.

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Speaker 1: What do you see happening now that I mentioned you

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Speaker 1: didn't hear the story about the Democrats that caved in

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02:58:54,879 --> 02:58:57,400
Speaker 1: and the House Democrats that caved in. Now that it

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Speaker 1: moves over to the Senate and then Donald says if

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Speaker 1: they agree, he's going to sign the bill. Do you

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Speaker 1: see do you see a straight line from now on?

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Speaker 1: Now that those Democrats have caved in.

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Speaker 20: I don't know, so I haven't seen who it is

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Speaker 20: who caved, but I will say that it's again really disappointing.

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Speaker 20: And this is what we see over and over and

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Speaker 20: over again with the two party system absolutely advancing the

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Speaker 20: interests of corporations.

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Speaker 9: And I think that.

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Speaker 20: It's a mistake when people think that, you know, if

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Speaker 20: you play the short term game, that's good for us.

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Speaker 9: In the long term, we need to be playing a

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Speaker 9: long term game.

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Speaker 20: We need to go on the offensive as well as

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Speaker 20: the defense.

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Speaker 9: And so I hope that people again will take the.

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Speaker 20: Lessons from last Tuesday's election that the other thing that

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Speaker 20: we didn't talk about about Mom Donnie is he's also

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Speaker 20: pro reparations for African folks, who Africans in this country

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Speaker 20: who descend from chattel slavery, like you and me, Brother Carl.

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Speaker 20: He's pro reparations. That's a long term game. That's a

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Speaker 20: fight that we have to have in the now. But

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Speaker 20: it's a fight that there's a really great new book

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Speaker 20: about Queen Mother Moore right that we've been having not

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03:00:26,240 --> 03:00:29,040
Speaker 20: just since Queen Mother Moore, but we've been having from

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Speaker 20: the moment that we broke Chatto slavery by freeing ourselves,

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Speaker 20: and so that's a long term fight. We have to

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Speaker 20: go on the offensive, and I think that it's going

3056
03:00:38,760 --> 03:00:42,520
Speaker 20: to take people outside of the Democratic Party. That's what

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Speaker 20: this break seems to mean to me, that we cannot

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Speaker 20: rely on the Democrats to do it for us.

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Speaker 9: That people have to create.

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Speaker 20: The pressure to fight for the things that we actually want.

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Speaker 1: You know, the question is, now, doesmon Donna become the

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Speaker 1: face of the Democratic Party? Can that be used against Democrats?

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Speaker 1: Not just obviously it didn't work in New York City,

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Speaker 1: but Iowa, you know, Peoria, even Passadena, the different places.

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Speaker 1: Does what he's saying does that work for the rest

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Speaker 1: of the country.

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Speaker 20: I think it works for the people. I think that Remember,

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Speaker 20: the Democratic Party was not supportive of Mamdani, right Hai

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Speaker 20: King Jeffreys had to when did he wind up indorse

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Speaker 20: And it was like a week or so before, right,

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Speaker 20: he wouldn't endorse Mam Donnie. So the mainstream Democrats did

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Speaker 20: all that they could to kill Mam Donnie's chances. So

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Speaker 20: what Mam Donnie represents and I'm not saying he's without flaws, right,

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Speaker 20: So it's also going to take the people to hold

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Speaker 20: him accountable. So I want to lift that up that

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03:01:47,360 --> 03:01:50,560
Speaker 20: there are no saviors of the people. The people have

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Speaker 20: to be our own saviors. So but what Mamdani represents

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Speaker 20: and what electing people who are willing to go further

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Speaker 20: and really fight for what we say we want and need,

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Speaker 20: what that represents is the power of the people. So no,

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Speaker 20: I don't believe that Mam Donnie is the new face

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Speaker 20: of the Democratic Party. I think that what we see

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03:02:10,760 --> 03:02:14,320
Speaker 20: is a win for the people. The Democratic Party was

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Speaker 20: never behind Mam Donnie and didn't get on the train

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Speaker 20: until it had already, you know, pulled up into.

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Speaker 9: The station.

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Speaker 1: Five away from the top. Is this a way to

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Speaker 1: attract the younger people into the Democratic Party? What Mandannae did.

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Speaker 1: Can that work nationwide?

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Speaker 20: It could work if the Democrats were willing to be courageous.

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Speaker 20: But I think that what the capitulation shows us is

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Speaker 20: that they're not willing to be courageous. And even though

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Speaker 20: there's Mam Donnie's victory as an example, I'm looking at

3094
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Speaker 20: what's happening in cities like Los Angeles, where you have

3095
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Speaker 20: basically a tale of two cities. New Yorkers overwhelmingly electing

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Speaker 20: a Mamdanni. And in Los Angeles you have a mayor

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Speaker 20: in Karen Bath who's completely capitulating to the mainstream Democrats,

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03:03:05,760 --> 03:03:09,920
Speaker 20: to corporate interests and unleashing in the midst of people

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03:03:10,000 --> 03:03:14,160
Speaker 20: going no ice raids. Basically, she and Gavin Newsom and

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Speaker 20: mainstream Democrats are saying, yeah.

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Speaker 9: No ice raids, we don't want them in our cities.

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Speaker 20: Will abuse our own people, right and unleashing LAPD, unleashing CHP.

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Speaker 9: On the people.

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Speaker 20: And so the Democrats, if they want to survive, they're

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03:03:30,320 --> 03:03:32,240
Speaker 20: gonna have to get a clue and they're gonna have

3106
03:03:32,320 --> 03:03:35,160
Speaker 20: to say no, the people want the things that people

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03:03:35,200 --> 03:03:36,360
Speaker 20: like Mom Donnie represent.

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Speaker 9: I mean, we even see it in Chicago where you.

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Speaker 20: Have a mayor And I keep asking, am I missing

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Speaker 20: something because Brandon Johnson seems are really great to me?

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Speaker 20: And then when I talked to organizers on the ground,

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Speaker 20: they say, no, he really is doing the things that

3113
03:03:50,959 --> 03:03:52,920
Speaker 20: we want him to do. And I think, again, it

3114
03:03:52,959 --> 03:03:54,320
Speaker 20: goes back to accountability.

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Speaker 9: Brandon Johnson comes out of the union movement.

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Speaker 20: Right he was a classroom teacher in Chicago, comes out

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Speaker 20: of the Chicago Teachers Union, and so he still has

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Speaker 20: those folks around him, not just supporting him and encouraging him,

3119
03:04:09,600 --> 03:04:13,880
Speaker 20: but also holding him accountable if he missteps. And that's

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Speaker 20: what we have to push for. We have to push

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03:04:16,480 --> 03:04:20,560
Speaker 20: for elected and candidates that really represent the people and

3122
03:04:20,760 --> 03:04:24,840
Speaker 20: are willing to be beholden, remembering that that makes them stronger,

3123
03:04:24,920 --> 03:04:29,080
Speaker 20: That makes their leadership stronger when they have people who

3124
03:04:29,160 --> 03:04:33,240
Speaker 20: will hold them accountable and encourage and surround them when

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Speaker 20: they do the right thing.

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Speaker 1: Right and doctor madee we got to cut it there

3127
03:04:36,520 --> 03:04:38,120
Speaker 1: before we do that. How do folks they want to

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Speaker 1: help Black Lives Matter Grassroots? How do they reach you?

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Speaker 20: Sure, We're at BLM Grassroots on all social media and

3130
03:04:44,640 --> 03:04:49,080
Speaker 20: blmgrassroots dot org is our website. We would love for

3131
03:04:49,160 --> 03:04:52,880
Speaker 20: folks to plug in with a local chapter. Fifty two

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03:04:53,040 --> 03:04:56,640
Speaker 20: chapters all around the world, so there's probably a chapter

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03:04:56,760 --> 03:04:58,240
Speaker 20: near you that you can plug into.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you, thank you for sharing all you

3135
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Speaker 1: that information with us this morning.

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Speaker 9: Thank you so much for the car.

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Speaker 1: All right, family, that's a Melina Abdullah, doctor Malina Abdullah,

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Speaker 1: and that's it for the day and classes dismissed. Stay strong,

3139
03:05:12,000 --> 03:05:14,920
Speaker 1: stay positive, please stay healthy. We'll see you tomorrow morning,

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Speaker 1: six o'clock. Right, here in Baltimore on ten ten WLB,

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Speaker 1: and also on the DMV on fourteen fifty WOL