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Speaker 1: So he was at that big Tucker Carlson Turning Point

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Speaker 1: USA event last night in Bloomington. Ryan Hendrick from the

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Speaker 1: WIBC newsroom joins us. Now, Ryan Hedrick, Hello, what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Good morning guys.

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Speaker 1: So it looked like it was pretty well attended to

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Speaker 1: give us the ABC's of sort of what happened last night.

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Speaker 3: So it was nearly a three hour event, and it

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Speaker 3: took about an hour for people that were lined up

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Speaker 3: around the block near the Shamrock Fountain to get inside.

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Speaker 2: Where was it at.

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Speaker 3: It took place inside the auditorium, which is where the

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Speaker 3: Shamrock Fountain is, and it seats about thirty five hundred,

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Speaker 3: but it looked like a lot more people than that.

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Speaker 2: To me, it looked like four or five thousand people.

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Speaker 1: So Tucker Carlson was the keynote speaker, obviously taking the

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Speaker 1: place of Charlie Kirk after his horrible assassination and then

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Speaker 1: but there was just more than just Tucker Carlson speaking.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So it was headlined by Tucker, but Governor Mike

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Speaker 3: Brown spoke right before Tucker, and he got a standing ovation.

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Speaker 3: Why people people from their seats and applauded Hardley as

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Speaker 3: got on the stage.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean you'd have to ask the

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Speaker 2: people that were in attendance.

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Speaker 4: What was Governor Mike Bron's message.

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Speaker 3: His message was that Charlie Kirk's message was faith and

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Speaker 3: family and a free speech and those were the pillars

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Speaker 3: of what he stood for. And Governor Brown said that

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Speaker 3: in order for Hoosiers to remain free, that we need

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Speaker 3: to carry on what Charlie Kirk started.

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Speaker 1: So Carlson obviously had a famous interaction with Braun on

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Speaker 1: his show when it was on Fox News. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he totally depants the guy did that. I mean, that

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Speaker 1: had to be a little weird.

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Speaker 3: It was strange because at one point during the Q

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Speaker 3: and A, Carlson was talking about the separation of church

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Speaker 3: and state, and he made a comment that I thought

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Speaker 3: was odd, and maybe nobody in the audience caught it.

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Speaker 3: I certainly did, being politically a student covering Lieutenant Governor

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Speaker 3: Micah Beck with but he talked about how preachers become

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Speaker 3: politicians inherently they become corrupt, and I saw a couple

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Speaker 3: of people look around, But I thought that was odd timing.

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Speaker 3: Maybe Carlson wasn't thinking about the connection between the Lieutenant

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Speaker 3: governor and the governor. And I don't think that Carlson

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Speaker 3: is up on Indiana politics.

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Speaker 2: Because he also talked about redistricting.

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Speaker 3: And he wasn't really even aware that we are in

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Speaker 3: the middle of a redistricting push.

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Speaker 1: Well, and it's also odd because of course, and they

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Speaker 1: couldn't get those photos out fast enough. He did some

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Speaker 1: photo already talked to Micah and somebody took photos of

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Speaker 1: it and put it out and blah blah blah. That

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Speaker 1: is interesting though, what you said, which is these guys

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Speaker 1: sort of parachute in they don't really take the time

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Speaker 1: to learn about where they're going to be, and then

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Speaker 1: they just kind of give the same speech everywhere. And

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Speaker 1: especially when you're dealing with politics. You know, it's not

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Speaker 1: like seeing your favorite band. We're doing the same show

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Speaker 1: in Detroit, is going to work in you know, Chicago,

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Speaker 1: different politics, different dynamics, And so you're right, it probably

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Speaker 1: some of that stuff caught a little people off guard.

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Speaker 3: Well, Carlson was in Maine to start the day. He

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Speaker 3: was in Maine hunting with his dogs, who came on

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Speaker 3: stage with him, oh at some point and said he

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Speaker 3: started the day in Maine and talked about his dogs

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Speaker 3: and then you know, took a plaine to Indiana. So

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Speaker 3: I mean presumably you probably got in down a couple

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Speaker 3: of hours before the event.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So you had mentioned that Governor Brown's message was faith,

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Speaker 4: family and community. What was Tucker Carlson's.

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Speaker 3: Tucker Carlson his theme, Well, his theme was open dialogue

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Speaker 3: and he wanted to continue talking about what Charlie left out,

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Speaker 3: which was a Q and a natural debate. He took

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Speaker 3: all questions. I mean these questions were no holds bar

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Speaker 4: So was it open mic or were they curated? Did

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Speaker 4: people know in advance?

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Speaker 3: No, people didn't know in advance. I think people were

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Speaker 3: just raising their hands and they made their way from

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Speaker 3: all angles of the auditorium and they they were at

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Speaker 3: one central part, which was eye to eye with Carlson

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Speaker 3: from about what thirty rows back, and he took questions

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Speaker 1: Now, did you get a chance to talk to people

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Speaker 1: that were there to interview people?

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Speaker 2: Yep?

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Speaker 1: Was it predominantly a crowd of people, Hey, we're big

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk supporters, Charny Port USA supporters or were there

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Speaker 1: people a lot of who were like antagonistic type.

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Speaker 3: So here's the biggest takeaway. And maybe I'm just naive

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Speaker 3: to what's going on at IU, but the biggest takeaway

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Speaker 3: for me was that the student body is split fifty

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Speaker 3: to fifty politically. We have Democrats and we have conservatives.

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Speaker 3: Here's the grand takeaway. Last night I spoke to a

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Speaker 3: med school student who told me that he wouldn't be

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Speaker 3: able to get through med school if he didn't play

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Speaker 3: the liberal card in med school. He said, a lot

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Speaker 3: of med school students are conservatives. Our futured who's your

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Speaker 3: doctors coming out? Most of them are conservatives. Most of

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Speaker 3: them come from fiscally and socially conservative families. But he said,

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Speaker 3: if you don't play the liberal card in med school,

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Speaker 3: never getting out of medicine.

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Speaker 4: Is that because of the professors Inday grade.

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Speaker 3: That he said, professors are pushing liberal ideology.

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Speaker 2: What a horrible existence.

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Speaker 3: And that's why he told We played him on WIBC

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Speaker 3: during the morning shift, but he said he would not

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Speaker 3: give me his name for fear of retribution from the school.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Do you think that it was more of a culture

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Speaker 4: rally or was it an actual attempt at civic engagement.

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Speaker 3: I think it was an attempt at civic engagement. I

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Speaker 3: think what Turning Point USA wants to do is they

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Speaker 3: want to build on Charlie Kirk's legacy. They want to

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Speaker 3: continue the momentum because I think they know that a

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Speaker 3: strong ground game in the twenty six midterms and the

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Speaker 3: twenty eight presidential election will carry them forward at whoever

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Speaker 3: the Republicans are going to trot out next for the

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Speaker 3: next presidential candidate. I think they think or they know,

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Speaker 3: they need a strong ground game on these college campuses,

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Speaker 3: and a lot of these college kids are radically left.

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Speaker 3: I talked to one who said she was he aired

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Speaker 3: to be at the event because she didn't want to

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Speaker 3: get hurt physically hurt.

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Speaker 1: Because that's that is very I was gonna say something,

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Speaker 1: but I probably would have got in trouble.

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Speaker 4: Is there anything that surprised you or was unexpected about

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Speaker 4: Carlson's performance or his message anything?

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Speaker 2: He said, yes.

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Speaker 3: He criticized the Trump administrations in what way stance on Israel.

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Speaker 3: He said that we need to stop treating Benjamin Netanyahu.

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Speaker 3: I'm paraphrasing here like a hero of some sort. He said,

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Speaker 3: when we stop paying attention to American society and stop

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Speaker 3: putting our energy into American culture as when we lose

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Speaker 3: this country. He said that, and this is not paraphrasing.

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Speaker 3: He said that the Biden administration and the Trump administration

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Speaker 3: have the same exact position internationally. He said, they have

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Speaker 3: the same weak position and Donald Trump is failing the

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Speaker 3: American people. One of the pillars of his magastance was

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Speaker 3: that America first. But Carlson said that Trump is not

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Speaker 3: putting America first by negotiating with Putin, negotiating with BB Netanyahu.

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Speaker 3: He said, Trump is failing on that front.

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Speaker 4: How was that message received from the crowd.

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Speaker 3: Actually, people were clapping. I think people in attendance at

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Speaker 3: I You last night believe that the Trump administration is

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Speaker 3: failing on foreign policy.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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