1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Hammer and Nigel do you believe these characters are weirdos? 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: So let. 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 2: My name is Nigel. Jason Hammer is right over there 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 2: with a very special guest on the hotline. 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 3: The director of Election Integrity for the RNC is missus 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 3: Ali Triolo. Ali, thank you so much for taking the 7 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 3: time to join us here in Indy. And we've been 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 3: talking about the Safe Act and how it seems like 9 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 3: this is one of the few things that are bipartisan. 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 3: Folks on each side of the political aisle all seem 11 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 3: to want this, yet we're having a hard time getting 12 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 3: to where we need to be. 13 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: What do you think, Hey, thank you so much for 14 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: having me. It seems like you should be taking my job. 15 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: You are saying exactly what I have been saying for 16 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: weeks now, to save America Act as common sense Americans 17 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: want this. This is not controversial. More than eighty percent 18 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: of voters Republican, Democrat and Independence one common sense voter 19 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: id laws. The only people that are out of touch 20 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: and not doing what is right and what voters want 21 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: is the Democrats in this Senate, and of course in 22 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: Congress we saw all but one Democrat, of course, vote 23 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: against that. So we need to get this passed, and 24 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: we are very hopeful that Republicans can maybe get this 25 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: over the finish line, but we do need some Democrats 26 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: to display common sense. I know it's a tall order, 27 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: but that's what it's going to take in order to 28 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: get this done. 29 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 3: And what if the Republicans do their part and maybe 30 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 3: you get a crossover or two from the Democrats. I 31 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 3: know Fetterman seems like he's somebody that you can work with, 32 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 3: but what if you can't get enough. What's next? Because 33 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 3: this is something that I think is super important, right 34 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 3: and the filipbuster is out there. There's always options on 35 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 3: whether or not you can get rid of that. 36 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: But blocking fill is an option. 37 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 3: Right, Like so many people want this alley, But what 38 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 3: can we do to get across the finish line? Realistically? 39 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: Hey, I hear you, and we have to leave this 40 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,839 Speaker 1: up to our senators and our legislators to figure out 41 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: a way to get this done. My role here at 42 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: the RNC, of course, is to blast the messaging, to 43 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: hype up this bill and do whatever I can to 44 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: ensure that that rhetoric is being heard loud and clear 45 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: by Democrats and they're also feeling the pressure so that 46 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: is one element, of course, passing the Save America Acts, 47 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: but there are other ways that the RNC we are 48 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: working to strengthen our elections across our country. We have 49 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: over one hundred and twenty active cases right now in 50 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: more than thirty states, trying to clamp down on election fraud, 51 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: trying to promote common sense legislation, protect those laws and 52 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: states where it makes a difference. And then obviously a 53 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: major case happened for us this week before the Supreme Court. 54 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: This is Watson versus RNC. And what we're fighting for 55 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: is one election day, election day, not election week, not 56 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: election month. And we are arguing before the justices, and 57 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: we did that on Monday, that we should not be 58 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: county mail in ballots that are received after election day. 59 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: That creates mistrust in our elections and of course creates 60 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: opportunities for frauds. So while we have Congress working to 61 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: pass the Save America Act, here at the RNC, we 62 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: are also working hand in gloves to do our part 63 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: to secure our elections. 64 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: Get more into the idea of mail in ballots. I 65 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 2: know that's one of the key points in the Save 66 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: America Act is the RNC supportive of clamping down on 67 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: mail in balloting, while at the same time understanding that 68 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: there are some Republicans that are concerned that people in 69 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: remote rural areas who take advantage of that. And when 70 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: I say take advantage, I mean just like so they 71 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: don't have to drive thirty minutes to the polling place. 72 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 2: Is there a concern, is there a legitimate concern that 73 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 2: there are some Republicans that you know, have hesitation when 74 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: talking about clamping down on mail in votes. 75 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: Well, I do want to clarify. In the Shave America 76 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: Act that is before the Senate right now, there is 77 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: nothing in that bill about mail and balance. There are 78 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: three principles in the Save America Act. Right now, they 79 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: are taking up a bill that was passed in the 80 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: House which the three elements are proof of citizenship, voter 81 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: ID and removing non citizens from voter roles. Now President 82 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: Trump of course has great ideas encouraging our senators to 83 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: add some other items into the bill, but at where 84 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: it is right now, nothing regarding mail and balot in 85 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: that at this time. But as far as mail and 86 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: ballots go, Look, we are not saying through Watson versus RNC, 87 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: this is our case before the Supreme Court that we 88 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: need to do away with mail and ballots. What this 89 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: case is arguing is that we need to ensure that 90 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: they are received by election day to count. We have 91 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: fourteen states around the nation right now that have these 92 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: trickle and period, some states up to ten days. And 93 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: when you have this rolling election period, it defies federal 94 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: law of what is election day, causes mistrust and of 95 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: course creates opportunities for frauds. So in the way in 96 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: which we can protect the security of mail and ballots 97 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: while they are still allowed, this would be one measure 98 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: to do that. 99 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 3: Speaking with Ali Triolo, she is the director of Election 100 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 3: Integrity at the RNC. So, Ali, what's your response when 101 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 3: you hear people like Chuck Schumer come out and call 102 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 3: what the Republicans are trying to do Jim Crow two 103 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 3: point zero, or you hear other high profile Democrats talk 104 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 3: about women as if they're not smart enough to figure 105 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 3: out the name change and going to vote. When you 106 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 3: hear those types of things, what's your response. 107 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: Well, as Chuck Schumer calling over eighty percent of our 108 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: nation Jim Crow two point zero, that eighty percent of 109 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: Americans think that I mean, that is just ridiculous. Again, 110 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: this is not just a Republican issue. While luckily Republicans 111 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: are standing up and doing the right thing, eighty percent 112 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: of voters want this, Republicans, Democrats, and independents, So of 113 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: course his reasoning is out of touch. And then I 114 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: also do want to point out high profile Democrats like 115 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: you mentioned Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Kamala Harris. They all 116 00:06:56,120 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: require people Democrats who attended their rally and their campaign 117 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: events to show ID to get in the door. It 118 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: is the complete hypocrisy. We have so much footage here 119 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: at the RNC also of these high profile Democrats voting 120 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: in states that do require photo ID, presenting that at 121 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: the ballot box and casting a vote. This is why 122 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: the Democrat Party is dead. It is rules for thee 123 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: and not for me. And voters can see that, they 124 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: can see the hypocrisy, and they are sick of it. 125 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: Even though I'm talking to you about elections today, look 126 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: at what's going on in our airports. The American people 127 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: want a country that functions. They don't want political games, 128 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: they don't want elections that don't work. They don't want 129 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: airports that don't work. 130 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 3: So really, we need. 131 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: To get common sense into these democratic legislators to do 132 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: the right things for voters of all political parties, because 133 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: we are all Americans and we are better than. 134 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 3: This, and Ali, you are so right. And last thing 135 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 3: here before we let you go, what would you say 136 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 3: to somebody who is maybe in a Facebook fight or 137 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 3: they're arguing on social media and they hear, well, the Republicans. 138 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 3: They've got the White House, they've got the Senate, they've 139 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 3: got the Republicans. This isn't on the Democrats. This is 140 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 3: a Republican issue, because I do see that out there 141 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 3: a lot. What's your response to that? 142 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: The response is, the way that our legislators have to 143 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: work is together. We need a certain amount of votes 144 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 1: to get the deal done, and we need to have 145 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: Democrats willing to work with Republicans. And I think it's 146 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: also very clear that Republicans are often willing to work 147 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 1: with Democrats. It's the Democrats that are out of touch 148 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: and not doing the right thing. They need to listen 149 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: to their own voters and pass to Save America Act 150 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: as soon as possible. 151 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 3: Ali Driolo, RNC, Director of Election Integrity. Ali, thank you 152 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 3: so much for taking the time to join us here 153 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 3: in Indy. 154 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me,