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Speaker 3: It doesn't happen often.

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Speaker 2: Huh. I didn't want to do it, but you were adamant.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, did we do this? Uh huh Kennel and

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Speaker 2: Casey show of Rob Casey's here. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Before we read this, though, I want to play this

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, I think it's a little bit older.

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Speaker 4: It just came across my feed yesterday and I was like,

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Speaker 2: Thought, well, this is us. Yeah, this is Kennelly Casey.

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Speaker 1: Explains a lot of what this person put in this

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Speaker 1: this is Rogan talking about both of the political parties,

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Speaker 2: I don't like either one of these parties.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think. I don't think they there's a

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Speaker 2: One way and then it swings hard. The other way.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, America's back, and then it swings the other way.

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Speaker 2: Now we're the new America, and America is this way.

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Speaker 5: It's like everyone's so tribal, and everyone's so locked into

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Speaker 4: But he said he thinks people are like, these are

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Speaker 3: Well, we saw it locally it Soliday Yes, with utility.

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Speaker 2: I have enough friends. As long as Casey.

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Speaker 3: You got something that was so nice.

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Speaker 6: going to read this email I got and Casey is

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Speaker 2: It always comes from an anonymous name.

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Speaker 4: So you got that nice sentiment from James Bridges. Well

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