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Speaker 1: Luke Artle of Mount Vernon thirty four points eleven boards

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Speaker 1: on the job Alice Colbrew Coffee guest line, the Purdue

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Speaker 1: recruit joining us, just finishing up practice. Luke, first off,

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Speaker 1: congratulations on what continues to be a great season, and

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Speaker 1: thanks for your time.

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Speaker 2: How are you.

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Speaker 3: I'm good, How are you guys doing? Thank you for

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Speaker 1: Hey, listen, it's a thrill to have you and let's

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Speaker 1: you know, Luke, everybody tells you this when you're in

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Speaker 2: Now are you on spring break right now?

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Speaker 1: Or do they basically just say, you know what, you're

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Speaker 3: So we're yes at malvernon We get two weeks off

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Speaker 3: that kind of it's pretty nice because you never play

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Speaker 2: So hey, what was it about? You know?

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Speaker 1: And I know that whenever you see a team for

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Speaker 1: So you have so much, Luke that is right there

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Speaker 1: He is, of course, the leader of the twenty five

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Speaker 2: So what sold you on Purdue?

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Speaker 5: Braden Smith was as oppression, and the turning point for

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Speaker 5: him in his career was when he started shooting off

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Speaker 5: ball screens as a sophomore. People had to come up

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Speaker 5: and guard him as a scorer, and that opened up

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Speaker 5: Zach Edy and pick and roll left and right and

442
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Speaker 5: probably made probably was the big difference in Zach Edy

443
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Speaker 5: becoming a lottery pick as opposed to a late first

444
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Speaker 5: rounder early second rounder like he might.

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Speaker 6: Have been otherwise.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, I think Braden Smith's better and more dynamic

447
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Speaker 5: when people have to guard him as a score. And

448
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Speaker 5: I think once he gets that record out of the way,

449
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Speaker 5: you know, how can that not be on somebody's mind,

450
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Speaker 5: Like if you're on the cusp of history like that.

451
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Speaker 5: I don't know how you couldn't think of that, you know,

452
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Speaker 5: But once he gets that record out of the way,

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Speaker 5: I think you might see it.

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Speaker 1: A little bit of different. Braden Smith, Brian, there's kind

455
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Speaker 1: of this weird history. Brian Nibbert's my guest from Golden Black.

456
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Speaker 1: There's kind of this weird history with Purdue of like

457
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Speaker 1: really bad and almost at times unfair locations that they've

458
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Speaker 1: got to play in the NCAA tournament. And I'm going

459
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Speaker 1: on way back. I mean I remember, you know, once

460
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Speaker 1: they had to play like LSU in either I can't

461
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Speaker 1: remember if it was Baton Rouge or you know, down

462
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Speaker 1: in in eighty six. I think it was they had

463
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Speaker 1: to play Memphis one year close to Memphis. I mean,

464
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Speaker 1: there's always been weird things with that. Is it kind

465
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Speaker 1: of weird to you because it was to me that

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Speaker 1: they would potentially play Missouri in Saint Louis.

467
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Speaker 5: Yeah, but they also got to play Houston and Indianapolis

468
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Speaker 5: last year in the Sweet sixteen, which.

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Speaker 6: Was a really raw deal for huge.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Fair, it's just one.

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Speaker 6: It's fair of one of the buying spots in the NUB.

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Speaker 1: But I felt like, yeah, I guess you're right, because

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Speaker 1: Perdue was not like a one seed that earned that

475
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Speaker 1: right to go through Indianapolis, right, It just kind happened

476
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Speaker 1: that way.

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Speaker 2: So fair point, yeah, real, fair point. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: One of the advantages, by the way, of being on

479
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Speaker 1: a street corner in Saint Louis doing a radio interview

480
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Speaker 1: in downtown is that there's never any traffic in downtown

481
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Speaker 1: Saint Louis, So there's not a whole lot of distraction.

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Speaker 5: Right, Well, Kentucky's here, so, uh, you don't think this

483
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Speaker 5: city is damn to it skills with people?

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Speaker 6: Then is it news for so?

485
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Speaker 2: Is it overrun with the big Blue nation? Is that

486
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Speaker 2: where we're getting at here?

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Speaker 5: Not yet, but it will be here in an hour

488
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Speaker 5: or two.

489
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Speaker 1: And Brian, listen, I'm gonna need you to do me

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Speaker 1: a favor. I want you to try to hide your

491
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Speaker 1: enthusiasm over the fact that Kentucky fans are going to

492
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Speaker 1: be surrounding you.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm more worried about the media room because they

494
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Speaker 5: descend like locus on.

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Speaker 6: The media room too.

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Speaker 5: When you always as a media member covering Thenselway Tournament,

497
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Speaker 5: you always want to be.

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Speaker 6: Somewhere other than Kentucky because that they are.

499
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Speaker 5: They are an army, they are a they are a

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Speaker 5: sovereign nation all to themselves.

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Speaker 1: You know, Brian, I don't know how much you have

502
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Speaker 1: have looked, and I've seen a fair amount of this

503
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Speaker 1: on on social media in the last day. I think

504
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: sometimes we prematurely were like throwing the dirt on college basketball.

505
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Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is, I know that

506
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Speaker 1: we live in the era of the nil and of

507
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 1: the portal, and of greed and of transfers, and there

508
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 1: are a lot of things about college basketball to wring

509
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: your hands over or to become a little bit concerned with.

510
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: But the tournament itself has provided already. I saw, for example,

511
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Speaker 1: the press conference for two players from Howard and they

512
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: had just lost their seasons over and they're sitting there

513
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 1: talking about what a difference the coach made and their

514
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Speaker 1: lives and how he's the leader of young men and

515
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Speaker 1: what you know, And we see this across the board,

516
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Speaker 1: and Brian, you don't have to look hard for it.

517
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: There are still plenty of examples in this tournament of

518
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Speaker 1: what's right about college basketball.

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00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 2: Correct.

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Speaker 5: Yes, one of the great things about college basketball, one

521
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Speaker 5: of the great things that as the way tournaments is

522
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 5: that it's like humanity unfiltered, Like you can't you can't

523
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Speaker 5: launder it. It's all right there happening in front of

524
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 5: your eyes, and you see what these coaches mean to

525
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Speaker 5: their players. You see what this moment means to these players,

526
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 5: and you see what just the opportunity means to all

527
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 5: of these guys with some of these smaller schools, but

528
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 5: you also see the bigger schools have to deal with

529
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 5: pressure and expectations and how they respond to it. It

530
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 5: really is kind of humanity unfiltered, and it's why, in

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Speaker 5: my opinion, it's kind of what makes this event the

532
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Speaker 5: best event in sports. So you see people breaking down

533
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Speaker 5: in tears and press conferences and things like that. It's

534
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Speaker 5: just it's just a really neat event and just a

535
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Speaker 5: really neat look into humanity, I guess, is the way

536
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Speaker 5: I would put it.

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Speaker 1: Will they do anything, No, I dude, I think it's

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, I'm at Fast break Fridays at Prime

539
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Speaker 1: forty seven, right there's I mean, it's packed with people

540
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Speaker 1: that are out here because it is it literally is

541
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Speaker 1: part of the American culture. The NCAA Tournament, I mean

542
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Speaker 1: everything about it. It is this is this is day two

543
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Speaker 1: of the best two days in sport arguably. I mean,

544
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Speaker 1: it's what Super Bowl Sunday, I realize is like an

545
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Speaker 1: American holiday, but so too not one, but two of

546
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Speaker 1: the NCAA tournament. And I think it's because Brian and look,

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Speaker 1: we love you know, the the legacies of Kentucky and

548
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Speaker 1: Kansas and you know in.

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Speaker 2: Purdue for that matter.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but the high points and you know, the Furmans

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Speaker 1: of yesteryear.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's what makes it what it is. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's great.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, how many people, you know, all of our lives

555
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Speaker 5: have we connected with standing around a television, you know

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Speaker 5: in March.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just that it brings people together.

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Speaker 5: Like I don't know how much of my life I've

559
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Speaker 5: spent I've spent standing next to a television in a

560
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Speaker 5: media room just talking to somebody I.

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Speaker 1: Don't know about how a game's going, and somebody hits

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Speaker 1: a pay shot and yeah, totally, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Hey, what's going on?

564
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Speaker 6: What's going on in that game over there?

565
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Speaker 4: And and then hurrying over to the TV.

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Speaker 5: When they tell me that it's somebody's up one with

567
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Speaker 5: five seconds to go. It's just a really really unique

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Speaker 5: part of Americana.

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Speaker 2: I guess, okay, so give me that, give me your

570
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Speaker 2: final four.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Brian, am I allowed to. I know

572
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: you cover one of the teams, so maybe that's unfair

573
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Speaker 1: to ask.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's uh.

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00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 5: I think produced capable. I just I don't want to.

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Speaker 5: I can't say I've seen enough of like the Arizona's

577
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 5: of the world. I think Michigan was vulnerable. I think

578
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 5: they have shown some vulnerabilities that could get them beat.

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00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 2: I like Duke, I think.

580
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 6: Purdue has a real shot.

581
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Speaker 5: I don't know if I'd go so far as to

582
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Speaker 5: pick them, because this is such a random event.

583
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 6: And they don't have I think.

584
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Speaker 5: The difference maker with Purdue when they went to the

585
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 5: Final four a couple of years ago was you just

586
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 5: had this force of nature that was just the same

587
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 5: guy every single game and.

588
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 2: Just unstoppable, right, just took such.

589
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 6: A toll on people and was so consistent. You know, Purdue, all.

590
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 5: That inconsistency throughout the regular season. That's still part of

591
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Speaker 5: produce story here, and they got to prove themselves that

592
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Speaker 5: they can carry this stuff on through the ANTONABLEI Tournament here.

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Speaker 5: But I'd give perdue the benefit of the doubt here

594
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 5: they can win four games next two weeks and get back.

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Speaker 5: I like Duke, I think I like Florida. I hate

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Speaker 5: picking one seeds.

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Speaker 1: I hear you, Yeah, you always want to find I

598
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 1: mean Houston, you know, Houston's a two there. I like

599
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: the way they defend, but can they score enough? You

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Speaker 1: know their question marks? Okay, lastly, and listen, I realize

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Speaker 1: Purdue tonight taking on Queens. It's in Saint Louis that

602
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Speaker 1: game seven thirty tip Brian Newbert to have it all

603
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: covered at Golden Black, and Brian, you know, we know

604
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: you look no further than this tournament, and you look

605
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Speaker 1: no further than produce history. We know the importance of

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Speaker 1: taking it one game at the time. So I understand

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00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: that Queen's is there and they got to win that game.

608
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: But should Purdue advance? Have you gotten any feel at

609
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: all between Miami and Missouri as to which of those

610
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: two would be the better matchup for Purdue?

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00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 2: Any any gut on that at all?

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Speaker 6: I don't have anything for you there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm with you, and that's yeah. But that's

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Speaker 1: the beauty of the turn there right right, And.

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Speaker 5: I just know Miami's got Malik re No. Purdue knows

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Speaker 5: him real well obviously.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's our leading scorer too, So it's a good point.

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Speaker 1: Leading of those teams are going to be real athletic.

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Speaker 1: That can be a problem for Purdue at times. Three

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Speaker 1: point shooting piece of it.

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Speaker 5: I don't know which of those two teams is better

622
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Speaker 5: at shooting breeze.

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Speaker 2: That's always a.

624
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Speaker 5: Concern if you've got to play Missouri on their home floor.

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Speaker 5: I don't know how Missouri is going to turn out,

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Speaker 5: and I don't know if you're even going to be

627
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Speaker 5: able to distinguish the curdu fans here from Missouri fans

628
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Speaker 5: to the color schemes.

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Speaker 2: That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 3: But no, I yeah, I.

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Speaker 6: Don't really have much there.

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Speaker 5: I'd like produced chances against either of them, to be

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Speaker 5: honest with you, the way produce plan right now.

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Speaker 1: Well, Brian, I'll let you go enjoy some whether it

635
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: be some toasted rabbioli or some Ted Drew's frozen custard

636
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: or any of the other. The Emo's pizza, which I

637
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: think is the weirdest thing ever in Saint Louis, But

638
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: they will throw you down a flight of stairs for it.

639
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: But we will be looking for the coverage at Golden

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Speaker 1: Black for Purdue tonight, and I certainly appreciate the time

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Speaker 1: on what is going to be a fun but busy Friday.

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Speaker 5: No problem, Jake, thanks for having me and a little

643
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 5: known fact I've been asking the locals around here. This

644
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 5: city is in fact built on rock and roll.

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Speaker 1: There you go, and you gave us the traffic report

646
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: earlier with Kentucky fans coming in too, so we covered.

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Speaker 2: All the bases right. Love it.

648
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: Brian Nubert joining us always fun from Golden Black on

649
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Speaker 1: the Java House Colebrew Coffee guest line. When it comes

650
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Speaker 1: to by the way, when it comes to knowing exactly

651
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: the terminology for soccer, I guess you could say that

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Speaker 1: Eddie and I are both lost and clueless, which is

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Speaker 1: the perfect segue for our next guest if I'm not mistaken, right, Uh.

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Speaker 4: Jake, poor producer here didn't have it ready for you.

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Speaker 2: We'll just have Kyle Menrip when we're.

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Speaker 7: Talking lost, bringing on Kyle Rip from the NFL.

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Speaker 2: The Indian Halfless Star.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, Java House cole Brew Coffee guest line is where

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Speaker 1: we find Kyle Menrip.

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Speaker 2: Kyle, I'll get right to this.

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Speaker 1: We had Luke Ernolaan a little bit earlier on The

662
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Speaker 1: show Man what a solid, solid young man.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think a.

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Speaker 1: High school basketball you see a lot of great young players,

665
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Speaker 1: but when you're talking about one that is a presumptive

666
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Speaker 1: mister Basketball, a top fifty recruit, just as ground it

667
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Speaker 1: as can be.

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Speaker 2: And it was a great conversation.

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Speaker 1: But is it safe to say that at this point

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Speaker 1: he is probably the absolute front runner for mister Basketball?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I think so.

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Speaker 7: I probably felt like that throughout the season, but you know,

674
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Speaker 7: after watching what he did last week, and you know, certainly,

675
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Speaker 7: you know, being able to beat Pike and what he did,

676
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Speaker 7: you know, thirty four points, eleven rebounds and everything he

677
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Speaker 7: does for his team, yeah, you have to kind of

678
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Speaker 7: feel like he's in a good position here. No no

679
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Speaker 7: offense to anybody else, Noah Smith from Plainfield or to

680
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Speaker 7: Kembi Shaw from Crown Point, but you know some other

681
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Speaker 7: guys in that mix for sure. But yeah, I just

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Speaker 7: I feel like Luke's probably done about everything you could

683
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Speaker 7: possibly do up to this point to be in a

684
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Speaker 7: pretty good position there.

685
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Speaker 1: And of course his Marauders going up now against Decatur Central.

686
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Speaker 1: We can get to that in a second, but before

687
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Speaker 1: we get to that four A matchup. What other matchups

688
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Speaker 1: at the semi state level, Kyle do you find to

689
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Speaker 1: be the most intriguing.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I really feel like the setup at

691
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Speaker 7: Seymour is going to be really good.

692
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Speaker 4: And I was kind of.

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Speaker 7: Debating, you know, whether to go there or to Newcastle,

694
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Speaker 7: but I think that's going to be fantastic if you know,

695
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Speaker 7: Ron Colly playing against Silver Creek in the first game there,

696
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Speaker 7: and then the second.

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Speaker 4: Game might be the game of the day.

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Speaker 2: Really.

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Speaker 7: Cathedral and Princeton ranked number two and three in Class

700
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Speaker 7: three A, so we're going to have people down there

701
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Speaker 7: covering that. But that's that's gonna be fantastic. And you know,

702
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Speaker 7: potentially you could get you know, Silver Creek Cathedral in

703
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Speaker 7: the championship game tomorrow night in the semi state, which

704
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Speaker 7: would be high scoring and I think a lot of fun.

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Speaker 7: I think that game people probably have been looking forward

706
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Speaker 7: to the possibility of that game all season, So I

707
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Speaker 7: think Seymour would be a great place to be.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's you know, you kind of look around.

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Speaker 7: There's a lot of really good I think the the

710
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Speaker 7: four A set up up at Elkhart with the North

711
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Speaker 7: semi State to see if Crown Point can make it

712
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Speaker 7: through and potentially play north Ridge in that championship game

713
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Speaker 7: tomorrow night. You know, that could be really good as well.

714
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Speaker 7: But but man, you can't you can't really go wrong

715
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Speaker 7: if you went down to the Hatchet House. I mean,

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Speaker 7: that's that's gonna be packed. It's gonna be awesome. Bar

717
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Speaker 7: Reeve is playing in it. Bloom Field, which is close by.

718
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Speaker 7: Howser's got a great team Liberty Christians coming from a

719
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Speaker 7: long way away, but they're very talented. So those four teams, uh,

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Speaker 7: that'll be that'll be great as well. And the two

721
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Speaker 7: way two AA all year has been good. And I

722
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Speaker 7: think both both the situations at Southport and Munseyfieldhouse, Uh,

723
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Speaker 7: you're gonna have four really good teams too, So not

724
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Speaker 7: a lot you can go wrong with tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Is there a Cinderella story still remaining? I mean, is

726
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Speaker 1: there a team that you look towards and say, at

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Speaker 1: any class, really, Kyle, Kyle, and then RIPINDI Star my

728
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Speaker 1: guest that you look at and say, okay, that I

729
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Speaker 1: did not think that they would still be here at

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Speaker 1: this point.

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Speaker 7: I mean, honestly, probably the cater Central a little bit

732
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Speaker 7: and the you know, the Fora and Newcastle, I would

733
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Speaker 7: say they're probably the underdog and they kind of liked

734
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Speaker 7: that role, I would say, and you know, but they

735
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Speaker 7: were able to uh, you know, their their section was

736
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Speaker 7: definitely win a bowl.

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Speaker 4: They they took, they took advantage of it there.

738
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Speaker 7: They won on the last second shot in one of

739
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Speaker 7: their games against Franklin Central. They they played really well

740
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Speaker 7: last week against Lawrence Central to get here. So I

741
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Speaker 7: think they're kind of in that in that role a

742
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Speaker 7: little bit. They're twenty and six though, so I don't

743
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Speaker 7: know they're their record's really good, so I don't know

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Speaker 7: if you'd fully.

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Speaker 4: Call them a Cinderella.

746
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Speaker 7: And on the other half of North of five eight

747
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Speaker 7: or five A four A in the North you have

748
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Speaker 7: a four woint Snyder, which you know took out Carmel

749
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Speaker 7: last week and I think that kind of shocked everybody

750
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 7: that after Carmel beat Fisher's the previous week. So they

751
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 7: might be in that role a little bit. But you know,

752
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 7: if you go up and.

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00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 4: Down the list of teams, you know, most of the teams.

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00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 7: Are are are very you know, heavily you know, twenty

755
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 7: three and three, twenty four and four, things like that.

756
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 7: So the only teams that are, you were the record

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00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 7: might lead you to think they're Cinderella. Is somebody like

758
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 7: you know, East Chicago Central, which is fifteen and twelve.

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00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 7: They're playing Columbia City up at Logan'sport tomorrow, but you know,

760
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Speaker 7: they're always good. I wouldn't necessarily call them a Cinderella.

761
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Speaker 7: And then somebody like Wayne Lewis is fifteen and eleven,

762
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 7: but you know they play three and four eight teams

763
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Speaker 7: all year and they're in class two ways. So sometimes

764
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Speaker 7: our record and not really indicative of how talented they are.

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Speaker 7: So I don't know if there's a fully fully Cinderella story.

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Speaker 7: North Remillion might be that a little bit in one A.

767
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 7: You know, they're they're a team that's a little bit

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Speaker 7: younger and it has made it here with the sixteen

769
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Speaker 7: and eleven records, So that could be one, but not

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Speaker 7: maybe not a you know, there are a few candidates

771
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Speaker 7: here in there, but maybe not a true super underdog.

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Speaker 1: Kyle Nedrip is my guest indianapostar. I'm at fast Break Friday,

773
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Speaker 1: by the way, at Prime forty seven Awesome as we're

774
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Speaker 1: watching the NCAA tournament down here. Kyle I wanted to

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Speaker 1: pivot a little bit, and I love, you know, high

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Speaker 1: school basketball, the tournament, all of that. And in talking

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00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 1: to Luke Rdle, one of the things that I asked

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Speaker 1: him about was, you know, we're seeing more and more

779
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Speaker 1: and maybe this is a little bit of a figment

780
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: of my own creation or mind, but we're seeing more

781
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: and more of players that I think identifying themselves not

782
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: for the high school they played for, but rather for

783
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Speaker 1: whatever summer circuit they're on, or whatever AAU team they're

784
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Speaker 1: playing for, and the magic and the honor of representing

785
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: their high school has gone away a little bit. And

786
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Speaker 1: I thought, maybe I'm making that up. I don't know,

787
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Speaker 1: and I asked him about it. He gave a great

788
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Speaker 1: answer about it. But what I am seeing is a

789
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Speaker 1: number of coaches now, including that just happened at Fishers,

790
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Speaker 1: that are leaving coaching high school basketball and going into,

791
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: you know, coaching at prep Garrett Wanneger from Fishers leaving

792
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: and going I think to Iowa to a prep school.

793
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Speaker 1: It seems like I'm seeing a higher turnover of high

794
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Speaker 1: school coaches than in the past.

795
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Speaker 2: Is this a figment of my imagination?

796
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 4: No, I don't think so.

797
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Speaker 7: I think you know, I actually wrote about that this

798
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Speaker 7: week and Luke was one of the people I talked

799
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Speaker 7: to about it, and you know, just to get his

800
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 7: you know, his take on why he stayed at the

801
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 7: traditional high school you know level and didn't go to

802
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 7: prep school because honestly, all of these top guys have

803
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 7: people in their ear about going to prep schools, and

804
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 7: it's it's kind of up to you and your family

805
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 7: to decide what you want to do and what's best

806
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 7: for you. And there's a lot of factors for that.

807
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 7: You know, n i L is part of that. You know,

808
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 7: the the chance to play with maybe just a higher

809
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 7: level of competition and teammates and against you know, top

810
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 7: one hundred type players all the time as part of that.

811
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Speaker 7: And you know, there's a lot of things tugging at people,

812
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 7: including you know, for coaches who you know, there's a

813
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 7: money aspect to this where you know, you're not getting

814
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 7: paid a ton of money coach high school basketball, where

815
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 7: you know another situation you might be you know, so

816
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 7: in that, you know, I think that's part of the

817
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 7: reason for Garrett, you know, going to Iowa United Prep,

818
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 7: you know, and the fact that he wants to be

819
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 7: a college coach someday. I think that's definitely part.

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Speaker 3: Of it too.

821
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Speaker 7: But you know, there's a lot of there's a lot

822
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Speaker 7: of things in high school basketball right now, and you

823
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Speaker 7: brought up a couple of them there with the prep schools,

824
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Speaker 7: and you know, coaches maybe getting uh, you know, maybe

825
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 7: getting tired of having to deal with a lot of

826
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Speaker 7: different things. And part of it's the.

827
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Speaker 4: Year round sort of burnout of it all.

828
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 7: But but yeah, I mean, I I don't know what

829
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 7: will happen. And I still think any of high school

830
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 7: basketball is not not going anywhere.

831
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Speaker 4: It's still gonna be great.

832
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 7: We're gonna have great, great things tomorrow all over the state.

833
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 7: But you know, when you look farther down the road,

834
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 7: I do wonder what it looks like and can it

835
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Speaker 7: keep thriving without If you if you don't have these

836
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 7: top one hundred tide players playing high school basketball anymore,

837
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 7: you know that it will I'm not saying it will

838
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 7: go away, but it will.

839
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Speaker 4: It will diminish in some aspect.

840
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 7: It has to, you know, if if you can start

841
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 7: losing these players.

842
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: So and I also think that high school coaches deserve

843
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: a lot of credit.

844
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 2: This has always probably been the case Kyle.

845
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: But now with the you know, with social media and

846
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: the rank and recruiting aspects and nil and all of it.

847
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: I think you have a lot of parents that are

848
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: putting pressure on coaches. You've always had that they but

849
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: now there are bigger stakes for their kid to play,

850
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: and so they're putting more and more pressure and putting things,

851
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: maybe even more uncomfortably on the coaches themselves, where eventually

852
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: you'd say, yeah, I'm not dealing with it, right, I mean,

853
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: am I Am I wrong in that regard?

854
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 7: No, for sure, And it's not all parents, but every parent,

855
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 7: you know, just just by the nature of it, you're

856
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,439
Speaker 7: going to be based towards your own kid and what's

857
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 7: best for them, and you may think it's what's best

858
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 7: for them is whatever you think it is, and that

859
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 7: may not Your priorities don't match what the coaches priorities are,

860
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 7: which is to run a program and everything that goes

861
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,280
Speaker 7: into that. So there are a lot of things tugging

862
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 7: on coaches and a lot of things stugging on parents

863
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 7: that are maybe run counter.

864
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 3: To each other.

865
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Speaker 7: So you know, it's it's uh and they have options

866
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,240
Speaker 7: now you know, you don't have to you have options

867
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 7: even within the transfer rule now to uh to have

868
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 7: some different things you can do with the first time transfer.

869
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 7: So yeah, it's a it's kind of a it's an

870
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 7: interesting mix of things happening right now in high school basketball.

871
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 7: It's not all bad and it's not all It doesn't

872
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 7: mean it's the end of the world, but there there

873
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 7: are some definitely some things that are changing and uh,

874
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 7: you know, I don't think we'll have any answers in

875
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 7: the next year or so on where it's going, but uh,

876
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 7: but it is interesting to me.

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Speaker 1: Well, Kyle, I know you'll have it all covered this

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Speaker 1: weekend for the semi state and hopefully we'll have you

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Speaker 1: back on next week to kind of preview what happens

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Speaker 1: from there, but always appreciate the time as always, and

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Speaker 1: we'll be looking for the coverage at.

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Speaker 2: The Indianapolis Star.

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Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, Jake, Kyle Nedrip joining us from the

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis Star, Java House, Colbrow Coffee guest