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Speaker 2: I think firstly, it's great to be back here at Phoenix.

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Speaker 3: The test day's going great. You know, this is a

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Speaker 4: x at Kirk Cavin as well. You are listening live

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Speaker 4: for sports car deals. Their season starts now soon he

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Speaker 4: doesn't end. They're testing at Daytona coming up this week.

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Speaker 4: It just ended. I think I just got back from

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Speaker 4: Rhade Atlanta. I literally just got back from Atlanta late

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Speaker 4: last night. Spent an extra day. I am a casualty

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Speaker 4: of the government shut down. No flights available, but made

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Speaker 4: it home. But I think I just got back from

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Speaker 4: Rhade Atlanta and they're already starting again. So Grojean is

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Speaker 4: going to be in a four GT three car as

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Speaker 4: part of a program mostly run by Riley Motorsports. Riley

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Speaker 4: ran the Lamborghini program last year. And remember that Ford

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Speaker 4: is bringing out a top level program, an LMDh program,

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Speaker 4: and I would imagine that Roman would be interested in

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Speaker 4: raising his hand and being a factory driver at the

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Speaker 4: top level. Ray Hall Letterman Atlanta and got their sports

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Speaker 4: car team, so that's good for their employees. They'll have

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Speaker 4: a GT Pro McLaren team and I have not seen

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Speaker 4: who is going to be testing, but they are testing

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Speaker 4: this weekend with that announcement was made last week, there

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Speaker 4: was no announcement. I did listen to Graham ray Hall's

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Speaker 4: interview with Hinch on his podcast, and Graham mentioned needing

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Speaker 4: to get an INSUL license and fill out a resume,

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Speaker 4: so I wouldn't be surprised if Graham ray All is

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Speaker 4: a part of that test next weekend. I don't know

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Speaker 4: he Maybe he has, but he's mostly done prototypes. I

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Speaker 4: don't know how much GT three racing he has done,

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Speaker 4: but sure, sure he can, so that's good for that program.

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Speaker 4: Christian Rasmussen is back in the Rolex in an LMP

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Speaker 4: two car. What else? Oh, Scott MacLaughlin and Joseph Neugartner

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Speaker 4: testing with the Poor Shapenski team. No confirmation if they

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Speaker 4: are going to race, but they are testing coming up

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Speaker 4: this weekend. It also was confirmed, so their World Endurance

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Speaker 4: Championship team went away, and we wondered, could they figure

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Speaker 4: out way to give Roger Penske a chance to win LAMA.

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Speaker 4: It sounds like no, they are not going to LAMA.

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Speaker 4: They're not going to be involved, and there's a lot

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Speaker 4: of rules about eligibility like we saw for Connor Zilich,

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Speaker 4: not enough super license points he couldn't do it, but

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Speaker 4: he will be in the Cadillac for Action Express this

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Speaker 4: weekend and we'll probably do the role X And I

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Speaker 4: mentioned this at the end of the show last week.

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Speaker 4: I think it was the last segment. But aj Allmendinger

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Speaker 4: will be testing with Meyer Shank this weekend. Scott Dixon will.

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Speaker 4: I don't think Alex Pollo is listed. I don't know

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Speaker 4: if he's busy this weekend or not. Do we know

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Speaker 4: when we're going to learn anything. It could still be

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Speaker 4: a few weeks, I think on the trial. So there's

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Speaker 4: not anything.

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Speaker 1: He said January the other day when we do Wow. Yeah. So,

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Speaker 1: by the way, did Graham run for Has he deriven

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Speaker 1: a sports car for his dad's team or did he

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Speaker 1: do it for Ganassi? Just do it for Kanassi?

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Speaker 4: He did it for Ganassi And I feel like he

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Speaker 4: drove an Accura for Penske.

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Speaker 1: He did do one for Penske.

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Speaker 4: That's from one point, and I remember it was hard

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Speaker 4: to fit for him.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and.

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Speaker 4: I you know what, I bet he because Ray Hall

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Speaker 4: had a GT program. I bet he has done that

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Speaker 4: at some point. It's just answer reason.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, just a curiosity if he's done a gt Okay.

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Speaker 4: So those some of the news of the day. We're

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Speaker 4: going to get to some of your Twitter questions via

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Speaker 4: the xbox at Kevin Lee twenty three at Kurk Cavin

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Speaker 4: and plenty more coming up. Track Side ninety three five

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Speaker 4: one oh seven five The Fan.

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Speaker 2: This Scott Dixon and you're listening to trackside on ninety

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Speaker 2: three to five and one oh seven five the Fan.

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Speaker 4: We are live in studio tonight, which means if you

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Speaker 4: were listening on the one oh seven five the Fan

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Speaker 4: app live or on the radio, the radio just regular

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Speaker 4: car radio, they still exist. You can tweet us a

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Speaker 4: question in the xbox at Kevin Lee twenty three at

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Speaker 4: kurt Cave and Ryan Gavigan is our in studio guests

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Speaker 4: donated to the Burger Bash. We'll have some news on

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Speaker 4: the Burger Bash. Looking to finalize some things for the

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty sixth edition benefitting the IE. You signon Comprehensive

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Speaker 4: Cancer Center that's coming soon before we go to the

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Speaker 4: Twitter box. Since you are here, Ryan, you get to

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Speaker 4: go first. What is your question?

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Speaker 5: Well, it came up when we were bringing up Phoenix earlier,

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Speaker 5: and what I would like to know is what would

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Speaker 5: IndyCar or what would you guys as part of IndyCar

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Speaker 5: think would be a successful return to Phoenix. I was

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Speaker 5: there in twenty sixteen and eighteen, and to be honest,

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Speaker 5: the racing was rather not good in my opinion. And

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Speaker 5: also along with that, what are the chances you see

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Speaker 5: good ol' connor daily in the race at that oval?

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Speaker 4: Okay, Kurt, it's a good question. The first one, what

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Speaker 4: is considered a successful event? Because you remember this is

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Speaker 4: a one one year guarantee. It's got to work right logistically,

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Speaker 4: everybody has to play nice together between IndyCar and NASCAR,

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Speaker 4: and IndyCar likely needs to be additive to the event.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think the first word that comes to mind,

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Speaker 1: and this goes with every event, it's just finances. It

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Speaker 1: does it make financial sense? And the second word is

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Speaker 1: I don't know that I can I have the right word,

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Speaker 1: but to me, it's just perception. Is it does it

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Speaker 1: feel like does it feel like you're the second child

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Speaker 1: at this event or the third or the fourth? Does

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Speaker 1: it feel like you're relevant to the weekend? Does it

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Speaker 1: feel like people want you there? I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: all of those just how are you received, not necessarily

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Speaker 1: by NASCAR, not necessarily by the fan base, but do

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Speaker 1: you feel like a big deal you Does it feel

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Speaker 1: like what an IndyCar race, particularly at Phoenix should feel like.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's a that's not a measurable it's

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Speaker 1: it's a gut feeling, and it'll come down to finances

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Speaker 1: and whether you know it works on television and was

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Speaker 1: it a good show and all those things. But I

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Speaker 1: just think in this one, it's a little bit of

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Speaker 1: just a gut feeling. How does it feel. What's the

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Speaker 1: perception of running there on a Cup weekend?

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Speaker 4: From a financial standpoint, this is one that I don't

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Speaker 4: really know how it works. Normally, it's either the track

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Speaker 4: the promoter pays IndyCar to come, and then the promoter

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Speaker 4: is going to need it to work to be invited

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Speaker 4: back to get their money back out of sponsorship's ticket sales.

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Speaker 4: The other path is a track rental, which IndyCar has

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Speaker 4: done at times, and then it's up to IndyCar to

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Speaker 4: make it work. Well, they were already going to be there.

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Speaker 4: It's possible that money is not exchanging hands, or it's

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Speaker 4: not the normal amount of money. It's possible. IndyCar said

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Speaker 4: we are open to waiving the sanctioning fee or the

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Speaker 4: normal sanctioning fee because we'd like to have another oval

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Speaker 4: because Iowa wasn't working and we'd like to try how

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Speaker 4: it works from NASCAR, And then NASCAR, which owns that track,

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Speaker 4: could have said, well, you need to rent the track

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Speaker 4: time to come, but well we're already there, we're already

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Speaker 4: staffing it. So maybe that's a win win, and there

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Speaker 4: could even be a revenue sharing from tickets on Saturday

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Speaker 4: or something along those lines. So you know, that's why

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Speaker 4: it's not quite so simple to say what makes it work.

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Speaker 4: Television rating won't be part of it, and that's where

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Speaker 4: you know, unfortunately, well what will help is the lead up,

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Speaker 4: so that weekend NASCAR and Fox won't be able to

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Speaker 4: help win. I was just starting to look up a

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Speaker 4: truck schedule where trucks they're not there that weekend, Well

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Speaker 4: they would have, and it's Saint Pete the week before

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Speaker 4: so and that's also on Fox. But really you're going

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Speaker 4: to have promotion in cup races the week before saying hey,

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Speaker 4: watch the IndyCar race the next week, So an IndyCar

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Speaker 4: is going to be able to help NASCAR, which I

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Speaker 4: also think is part of the motivation for NASCAR welcoming IndyCar.

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Speaker 4: They are going to have a two and a half

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Speaker 4: It's not going to be a two and a half

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Speaker 4: hour commercial because obviously we're going to talk more about

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Speaker 4: the IndyCar race. But I have to believe we're going

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Speaker 4: to have many, many promos that right here tomorrow at

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Speaker 4: four pm Eastern, you can watch the Cup race on Fox.

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Speaker 1: Won't there be a Cup practice earlier in the day.

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Speaker 4: But remember those aren't on Fox anymore. Those aren't on

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Speaker 4: the That's one of the problems. I think that the

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Speaker 4: new NASCAR TV deal is to get more money you have.

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Speaker 4: I can't tell you what outlet it's on. It's probably

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Speaker 4: on Max or Bleach. I'm in the business, and I

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Speaker 4: don't know where the NASCAR practice always are. I know

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Speaker 4: in the summer they're on True TV, maybe it's Amazon.

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Speaker 4: Maybe the first half is on Amazon Prime leading up.

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Speaker 4: But that's the point that they don't get any cross

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Speaker 4: promotion from the practices.

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Speaker 1: No, but I do think there will be enough conversation

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Speaker 1: in the Cup community about being at Phoenix, and I

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Speaker 1: think there will be. I just think in the promos

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Speaker 1: if you're on Fox, I just think you'll know whether

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Speaker 1: or not you choose to tune in as another story.

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Speaker 1: But if I think if you're in, if you're likely

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Speaker 1: to kind of be in tune with with NASCAR that weekend,

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Speaker 1: there's a chance you'll you'll join us.

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Speaker 4: And what you're hoping is that some of the NASCAR drivers,

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Speaker 4: because drivers are fans, yeah, the IndyCar drivers, and hopefully

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Speaker 4: let they let the drivers mingle at Indye. The IndyCar

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Speaker 4: drivers I think couldn't get in the cup garage, so

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Speaker 4: that would be nice if they give them a pass

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Speaker 4: to go visit with each other. But you're going to

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Speaker 4: get IndyCar drivers that are curious about NASCAR, and I

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Speaker 4: think you're gonna get drivers on social media saying, wow,

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Speaker 4: look at this, this is cool, I ain't doing this,

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Speaker 4: and you'll get kind of an endorsement from them. From

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Speaker 4: that standpoint, that'll help.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I know a lot of those NASCAR fans,

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Speaker 1: just like the indiecar fans, are following their driver on

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Speaker 1: social media and that may be the purest way to

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Speaker 1: get as opposed to a television promo.

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Speaker 4: I think it's got a good chance of being a

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Speaker 4: successful weekend chances. Connor, is there I'm going to say

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Speaker 4: they're high. I'm going to I think he is a

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Speaker 4: candidate for all three of these seeds of mix. Schumacher

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Speaker 4: doesn't come to Ray Hall, I don't. I think they

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Speaker 4: would be open to Connor agree, and then certainly the

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Speaker 4: other two. I really believe Hunkos has an idea of

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Speaker 4: still being to use him. And you know, the one

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Speaker 4: thing that Dennis Hager is going to need to adjust

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Speaker 4: to more are ovals. And if you're dale Coin Racing,

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Speaker 4: if you're Andretti, you might say, hey, I wouldn't mind

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Speaker 4: having Connor daily there. I wouldn't mind having a veteran

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Speaker 4: driver rather than a young driver in the second seat supporting.

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Speaker 1: Dennis Hauger, especially when there's some zeros that can go

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Speaker 1: with this program.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay. IndyCar Ken says happy offseason. Any word on

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Speaker 4: the April Ims Open Test, wondering if it will be

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Speaker 4: the week following Barber or the last week of the month.

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Speaker 1: I don't have a calendar in front of me, but

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Speaker 1: it'll in my mind it's after Barber.

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Speaker 4: I guess it's in the twenties. It'll be leading up

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Speaker 4: there will be no more IndyCar races.

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Speaker 1: Correct before we.

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Speaker 4: Get to the indiegp would be my best guess, just

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Speaker 4: kind of looking at what's going on between Long Beach

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Speaker 4: and Travel and Barber. It would just make a lot

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Speaker 4: of sense to do it later in the month and

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Speaker 4: teams could then basically move into their garages if they

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Speaker 4: want during that test and not have to move stuff away.

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Speaker 4: So the bar I don't think that's been published or confirmed.

649
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Speaker 1: Yet, No, don't. I don't believe so. April nineteen is

650
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Speaker 1: the race at Barbara Motorsports Park. In my mind, the

651
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Speaker 1: end of that, end of the next week or will

652
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Speaker 1: be a prime time for it. Could be. I wouldn't

653
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Speaker 1: think it would be the first couple of days of May,

654
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Speaker 1: but it might be. Oh, no, we have what do

655
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: we have May first? Do we haven't? No, it's got

656
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Speaker 1: to look at my calendar. I just haven't really gotten

657
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Speaker 1: to my twenty twenty six schedule memorized yet.

658
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Speaker 4: Hang on, let me get to my handy dandy. I

659
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Speaker 4: believe IndyCar is off the first weekend of May. The

660
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Speaker 4: Long Beach is the nineteenth, So Barber is actually March

661
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Speaker 4: twenty ninth, then Long Beach.

662
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Speaker 1: Long nineteen eineteenth. That's what I was getting to I don't, and.

663
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Speaker 4: Then you have three weeks off or I guess two

664
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Speaker 4: weekends off the weekend of the twenty sixth, and like

665
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Speaker 4: the second or third the seconds. So with two weekends off,

666
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 4: it would make a lot of sense to make the

667
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Speaker 4: ND five hundred tests be between Long Beach and the

668
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Speaker 4: road course on May ninth, because you're going to have

669
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Speaker 4: a gap there. So that's going to fill that gap

670
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 4: pretty nicely.

671
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Speaker 1: And you're gonna come back from I mean it's going

672
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: to take a couple of days to get back from

673
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: Long Beach with all the equipment, So you know, anything

674
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Speaker 1: after probably the twenty third through the thirtieth feels like

675
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Speaker 1: where that test will.

676
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Speaker 4: Land at Storm and Soda says, no questions this week,

677
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 4: just to thank for all you've answered before. Lynn Drive

678
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 4: for asked your cups in a row asks who is

679
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Speaker 4: your pick to challenge the ten car for twenty twenty.

680
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 1: Six I think you got to start with Poto Award.

681
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: There's obviously expect a Penske bounce back. Don't you think

682
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: one of those Penske cars is going to be more

683
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: in the mix this time?

684
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Speaker 4: More in the mix? Yes, yeah, all the way in

685
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Speaker 4: the mix.

686
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Speaker 1: I agree.

687
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 4: I don't know yet.

688
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know yet either, but more in the

689
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: mix for sure. Poto's one. You know, lining Guard took

690
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: a big step. In fact, I just wrote just a

691
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: little bit ago that the only driver that probably took

692
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Speaker 1: a bigger step in twenty twenty five than Kiff and

693
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 1: Simpson was Christian Rasmus. But you could probably throw Christian

694
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 1: Lingard in there too. He took a big step.

695
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 4: I think that's we said it was one to watch

696
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 4: this year, the dynamic between Poto and long Guard. And

697
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 4: you can say all the right things and it does

698
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 4: seem like it's going to work because loung Guard was

699
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 4: at times a little bit better than Poto. But what

700
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 4: if it really changes. Kristian Lingard is really talented. He's

701
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 4: getting better and better on ovals. He's trying to figure

702
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 4: out the short ovals a little bit more.

703
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: That's his weakness, you know. If he can, if he

704
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Speaker 1: can take a next step and on the ovals, if

705
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: he gets a teammate at Indy, that might one week.

706
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: You've been talking about that.

707
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 4: You try to talk me out of Well I did,

708
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 4: so we'll we'll see. We don't know anything on that

709
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 4: front yet, but logic has just told me for a while,

710
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 4: and I've not seen a dryer and Ryan Bowld announcement

711
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 4: or anything there. And I think Connor Daily and others

712
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 4: are in play if they need just a one off

713
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 4: situation there. I've said along, I think Ryan Hunterrey makes

714
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 4: the most sense for Aara McLaren. But there's an Andrettie

715
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 4: set open now that I think is for Colden Hurda.

716
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 4: But we shall see, so we'll let uh, well, we'll

717
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 4: wait and see what happens on that front. And I

718
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 4: think Loinguard might be ready. The other is Kirkwood. Yeah,

719
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 4: I don't know if I would pick Power to win

720
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 4: the championship. I do think he's going to win multiple

721
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 4: races and has a great chance of being top five

722
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 4: or top six. But my guess would be Power and

723
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 4: Razuski will be additive and Kyle Kirkwood will benefit with

724
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 4: another year of experience.

725
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: Just don't can't really get my head around Kyle's drop

726
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: off in the last part of the season. You know,

727
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: he was midpoint in the year, was an excellent shape.

728
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 4: Well, they stopped going to street races.

729
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: I understand that.

730
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 4: I'm serious, that's where they were dominant. Now, he did

731
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,919
Speaker 4: win on an oval, but the oval they won at

732
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 4: it was circumstance that helped them. But they need to

733
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 4: get their oval package a little bit better, and their

734
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 4: road course package wasn't as good as it has been.

735
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 4: But I think they'll take a step forward this coming

736
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 4: Year's a good question on that front, and the foregone

737
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 4: conclusion is that he will be shocked if Alex Palow

738
00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 4: does not win the championship. That's right, okay. Paul Ingram

739
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 4: says so pleased with the dream team of mel Harder,

740
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 4: friends of Laguna Seca and the Monterey County supervisors, with

741
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 4: the weather Tech Raceway renaissance, the finale in the facility

742
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 4: will get better every year. Do Laguna lessons apply to

743
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 4: other local governments?

744
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 1: You know, that's a that's an odd situation for our sport.

745
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't have a lot of comps if

746
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: you will be.

747
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 4: Great if it did. If counties were just willing to

748
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 4: pay one point five million a year to IndyCar to

749
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 4: hosting events.

750
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Speaker 1: There just aren't many arrangements the way Laguna Seca set

751
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: up or the racetrack and then the community, so difficult

752
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 1: to see that kind of in play elsewhere.

753
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 4: I'm happy that it's continuing. Yeah, I'm happy Mail was

754
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 4: there too, had a better crowd this year, so I'm

755
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 4: happy Mel's there. You know, it's not like Laguna Seca

756
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 4: didn't have a cheerleader for IndyCar there. They certainly did.

757
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 4: But Mel Mel brings and even he's, for lack of

758
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 4: a better phrase, is one of us, and that will

759
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 4: be good for the weekend. Ryan, you had one more question,

760
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 4: did you not? Maybe not? No.

761
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 6: I was going to bring up the fact that they

762
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,720
Speaker 6: were always talking about wanting to come up with new,

763
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 6: brand new events to put on the schedule and talking

764
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 6: about courses that are going to be taken away potentially

765
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Speaker 6: since we're not looking to add community to add up

766
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 6: to twenty races or whatever, what would be the ones

767
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 6: that would be.

768
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 4: Looked at for being the go away?

769
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 5: Are talking Portland, Ohio.

770
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 4: I think you look at the ones that have the

771
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,919
Speaker 4: least amount of people, and then what we also don't

772
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 4: know is who's paying the least. So let's see looking

773
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 4: at a schedule, I mean Portland is one that people

774
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 4: bring up. Toronto was on that list. It seems to

775
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 4: be solidified now with the move just outside of town

776
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 4: to mark them will have to keep an eye on

777
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 4: Mid Ohio. If Cleveland were to happen, would they run

778
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 4: in both markets? Certainly they could, and they did back

779
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 4: in the day, but this is not back in the day,

780
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 4: and I know some in the industry would like to

781
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 4: see the facility upgraded. Weather Tech doesn't run at Mid

782
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 4: Ohio anymore. So just because it's a track we all

783
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 4: love and a lot of fans love, doesn't mean it's

784
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 4: going to stay on the calendar forever. I don't have

785
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 4: an answer for your question. The good thing is it's

786
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 4: going to bring competition, and what you and I do

787
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,959
Speaker 4: think they could add another race. I think they could

788
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 4: do eighteen. I don't think unless if television ratings really

789
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 4: take a big step up, then maybe you can start

790
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 4: to move up to nineteen or something like that. And

791
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 4: if the leader circle money continues to rise. Still not

792
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 4: really seen this confirm, but I trust the reporting that

793
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 4: it's up half a million or so, and presumably that

794
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 4: would be from the influx of cash with Fox buying in,

795
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 4: but don't know that either. But if that were to

796
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 4: raise a little bit more and teams seem to be

797
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 4: a little bit healthier, then maybe maybe remember and add

798
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 4: to the seventeen.

799
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: Remember that the first one to go would be the

800
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: second race at a doubleheader, so we have two at Milwaukee.

801
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: So the other thing I would point out, you mentioned Toronto,

802
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 1: You've mentioned mid Ohio, and you mentioned Portland. All three

803
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: of those have a strong promoter in Green Savary, so

804
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: which helps, which is very.

805
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 4: And they have a one of the top three or

806
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 4: four events in Saint Petersburg.

807
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: It's a strong program that is very connected to this,

808
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: to the series, longtime promoter. So you know, we often

809
00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: will throw in Portland because it's it's far away from

810
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: most of us, and it doesn't seem like it's it's

811
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: a solid event, but I think it is. You know,

812
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: it's it's probably better than we give.

813
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 4: It TV to see that there's a lot of people

814
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 4: at them.

815
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: Well, it's it's a pretty good event. It's and it

816
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: gives us a West Coast presence in that part of

817
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: the country, west part of the West Coast. So you know,

818
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if it stays forever, but but Green

819
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: Savary is a good promoter, and it would it would

820
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: take some real hard, hard information to show that it

821
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 1: didn't need to be on the calendar.

822
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 4: If and that's always a big if you know, we

823
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 4: can have all these rumors of new events, but until

824
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 4: they are announced, they are not done yet. But if

825
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 4: you had three great new events come on, one is

826
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 4: getting chopped off.

827
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:46,760
Speaker 1: Yeah good?

828
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 4: You know you Yes, you could get rid of a

829
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 4: second race, but that's not even a guarantee. If there's

830
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 4: no new oval coming on, they might still want to

831
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 4: keep a doubleheader at Milwaukee.

832
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't get this in It's that

833
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: most of the leadership would like double headers if they

834
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: could help it.

835
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:09,760
Speaker 4: That's good because most of the people and the teams

836
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 4: don't like the doubleheaders either.

837
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 1: I think it's out of necessity.

838
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. All right, we'll see what we missed

839
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 4: and any late breaking news we'll check into next on trackside.

840
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 3: Hi, this is Alexander Rossi and you're listening to trackside.

841
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 4: So what's everybody been doing without ESPN? I think I

842
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 4: might be able to live without it.

843
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: I think so too.

844
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 4: I think I'm this has not been a good experiment

845
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 4: for them. I have YouTube TV. I like YouTube TV.

846
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 4: It's I encourage you to get YouTube very handy. I

847
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 4: would be a Comcast supporter, but it's not availbled my area,

848
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 4: or I would support one of the companies.

849
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: Fubu sounds like a decent option.

850
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 4: I've tried it. It's not as user friendly I'm thinking,

851
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 4: and at some point there will be something on ESPN

852
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 4: that I need to see and I will come back.

853
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 4: But in the meantime, I've found so a lot of

854
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 4: people have been finding some bootleg programming. I've not gone

855
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:08,240
Speaker 4: to that path, but I have found PTI. It's posted

856
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 4: on It's posted on YouTube, the entire show, and that's

857
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 4: one of the shows I do miss Sports Center, but

858
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 4: I have started to look into other things. I would

859
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 4: recommend this show for those that like history on Netflix.

860
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 4: Death by Lightning about the president that no one remembers

861
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 4: and a person they've heard of even less who shot him. Okay,

862
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 4: James Garfield and Charles Guiteau Death by Lightning. Death by

863
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 4: Lightning four episodes. I watched them all last night. After

864
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 4: I got home from another opportunity to avoid Indiana in

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Speaker 4: the winter time, I went to Florida watched Jackson Race.

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Speaker 4: These WORRL races are kind of interesting because there's no

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Speaker 4: entry lists published. You have no idea what drivers are

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Speaker 4: in the car. There's three per team, it's an eight

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Speaker 4: hour race one day, seven hour the next day. Four

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Speaker 4: different classes, too many Rolex twenty four. You walk down there,

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Speaker 4: there's Billy Johnson. Billy Johnson was a Ford factory driver

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Speaker 4: just a few years ago. He's running in this. There

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Speaker 4: are really good drivers, there are really bad drivers. Sting

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Speaker 4: Ray Rob ran in the event a couple of times ago.

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Speaker 4: There's several former Indie Lights drivers, Dacota Dickerson, who's won

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Speaker 4: a couple of championships. He's actually who recommended Jackson to

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Speaker 4: get a chance. So I've enjoyed these just watching all

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Speaker 4: the different classes of cars, and they're really good about

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Speaker 4: not running into each other. It's good experience. Finally knew

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Speaker 4: what driver was in what car at the what time.

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Speaker 1: I assume we drove home.

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Speaker 4: Then no, we flew to Atlanta. We made that flight,

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Speaker 4: but then the Atlanta flight did not happen or the

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Speaker 4: next or the next, and we came home Monday night.

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Speaker 1: But all good.

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Speaker 4: Nobody cares about my travel problems. I get that, so

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Speaker 4: it's all fine. They take care of me as well

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Speaker 4: as they can. So, yeah, maybe racing off season, but

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Speaker 4: there's always racing somewhere, including Formula one in America a

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Speaker 4: couple of weeks. We'll talk about that next week on

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Speaker 4: the show. Ryan, thank you for supporting the I You

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Speaker 4: Simon Cancer Center and the Burger Bash. We'll have details

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Speaker 4: on that coming up soon. We'll see you next Tuesday

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Speaker 4: night for another edition of Trackside ninety three to five

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Speaker 4: and one oh seven five The Fan