1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Casey Vaya last night was pulling the late duty as 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: he was breaking down what happened with the Colts game 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: yesterday as part of the postgame radio show doing so 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: with Bill Brooks. One guy called in and actually said 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: that Riley Leonard is the guy on the roster with 6 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: the most common sense because he went to Notre Dame. 7 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: Well, he actually said, Leonard Riley. 8 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: What's that? 9 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 2: He called him Leonard Riley? 10 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: So did he really? 11 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 2: He called him Leonard Riley? And that that was my 12 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: first indication of Okay, this is where we are, you know, 13 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 2: twelve twelve thirty. 14 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: So if you're going to call in and say that 15 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 1: a guy has common sense, probably the thing to do 16 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: is to not confuse him with the head coach of 17 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: one of your arch rivals, right, exactly what that's worth? Right? 18 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 2: Yes, No, you're you're spot on. I thought it was very, 19 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: very ironic and par for the course for a preseason 20 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: call in show to have a a Leonard Riley reference 21 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: for Riley Leonard's. 22 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: Okay, yes, Casey, let's get to this. I know you 23 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: guys talked about it. I listened to a lot of 24 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: the show yesterday, and we're gonna talk plenty about Anthony Richardson. 25 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: I mean that goes without saying. So let's get into 26 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: the areas not quarterback related for the Colts. And I 27 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: will begin with the areas that because I've been basically 28 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: harping on the negative for an hour. Now, let's go 29 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: with the positives. Give me two or three that you 30 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: really did feel like, Okay, there is something there, and 31 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: I do like what I saw in that aspect. 32 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think one of them is pretty obvious. I 33 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 2: think everything you saw out of Tyler Warren yesterday was 34 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: write what you were expecting to see. I think he 35 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: looked every bit the part of the guy who's going 36 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: to really open up the tight end room inside the 37 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 2: Colts offense. He had three catches for forty yards, had 38 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: one explosive play of twenty three yards where he kind 39 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 2: of caught the ball on a slant, was able to 40 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: turn it up field. And it's a very small sample size, 41 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: but I think everything you saw out of him was 42 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: really good. Another name that we mentioned a couple of different 43 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: times on the broadcast yesterday, which was good because he 44 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 2: had a very impressive week. I think Hunter Wohler was 45 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: another player that I know that We've kind of talked 46 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,839 Speaker 2: about him a little bit more over the last couple 47 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: of days because of what he did in that joint practice. 48 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 2: But you know, the rise that he has had over 49 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: the last week and a half, two weeks of camp, 50 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 2: being a seventh round pick, initially just getting reps at 51 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: special teams, but now starting to insert his his play 52 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 2: into safety kind of can also play a little hybrid 53 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 2: linebacker inside this lou Anrimo defense. I think he had 54 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: had a pretty good day yesterday. Led the team in tackles, 55 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 2: It seemed to be in the right place majority of 56 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 2: the times. There was the you know, the long touchdown 57 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 2: run by Keaton Mitchell that I think he took a 58 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 2: bad angle on, but outside of that, I think he 59 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: saw a lot of really good from Hunter Wohler. And 60 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: then ultimately I think also it was it was a 61 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 2: decent day from you know, the the offensive line. Interior wise, 62 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 2: you know, you wanted to see Tanner Borolini, Mackenzolvez, you know, 63 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: look the part, and I think there may be a 64 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: couple areas that Tanner Bordolini would want to sure up 65 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 2: at the center position. But I think for the most part, 66 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: interior wise, I think you saw a couple of the 67 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 2: Colts projected starters go out and play pretty well. But 68 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: then outside of that, there are a handful of things 69 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: that you really want to sure up, and I think 70 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 2: it all starts with special teams. That was that was 71 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 2: a very, very big concern with the amount of return 72 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: yardage you allowed. They had over two hundred and twenty 73 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: net return yards for the Ravens, including a massive long 74 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 2: touchdown punt return and then a kick return that went 75 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: for sixty plus yards too. 76 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: I thought Bill Brooks made an interesting point last night, Casey, 77 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: when analyzing you know, I take that, but it might 78 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: have been actually Charles Harbuckle with Matt that said this 79 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: before they threw to you guys. One of the two 80 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: I can't recall, but just in analyzing Daniel Jones and 81 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: the fact that the numbers were less than what you 82 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: are accustomed to with Daniel Jones if you look historically 83 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: his career from a percentage standpoint, but that there were 84 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: a few times that he was able to recognize and 85 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: I'm not saying to pick on Anthony Richardson, but Jones 86 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: was able to use his legs sometimes to recognize a 87 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: situation that may not have been a productive play, but 88 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: it avoided a disastrous play. Is that a fair assessment? 89 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 2: I completely agree. I think you know, a lot of 90 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: people we live in it, We live in the era 91 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: now where it's so fantasy driven, so you're looking strictly 92 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 2: at stats, and I think if you look at the 93 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 2: stat sheet, I think he was ten of twenty one 94 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: for one hundred and forty four yards, no touchdowns, no interceptions, 95 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 2: what's sacked once? And those numbers they don't they don't 96 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 2: jump off the page at you by any means. But 97 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 2: I think he was able to come in and do 98 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 2: some good. You mentioned that. I think there was also 99 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 2: a handful of drops that you know, those are big 100 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 2: areas of concern. Now, a lot of those guys are, 101 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 2: you know, the guys lower on the depth chart. You know, 102 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: Anthony Gould had a couple. You saw a couple out 103 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: of the running backs too, So those are some areas 104 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 2: you'd like to sure up. But I would agree with that. 105 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 2: I think for the most part, Daniel Jones looked pretty 106 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: pretty poised, and you know, he owned the you know, 107 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 2: the quarterback position yesterday pretty well. He had good command 108 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 2: and I thought, you know, especially when you talk about 109 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 2: being able to escape, use his legs to create I 110 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 2: think that play that we saw where he kind of 111 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 2: threw it across his body to Ashton duel and to 112 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 2: I think it was a third and third and five, 113 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 2: third and six something like that, to you know, get 114 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 2: a first down where you had to escape, you had 115 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: to scramble, get out of the way of some you know, 116 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 2: guys coming in to get you, and being able to 117 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: make an explosive play. I think those are kinds of 118 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 2: things that people don't necessarily think of when you think 119 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 2: of Daniel Jones. But he does have good athleticism, he's 120 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: got good mobility, so he can make those kinds of plays. 121 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 2: So it was good to see it on his play 122 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: last night. 123 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: Do we read into casey? I thought, once again, and 124 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: this seems to be par for the course each time 125 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: that this guy's numbers dialed up. Ashton Doolan to me, 126 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: when his number is dialed up, makes plays. But it's 127 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 1: hard to read yesterday, how much of that to put 128 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: stock in because he was admittedly going against probably a 129 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: more inferior defense than those that are slotted ahead of 130 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: him A Lah and Adi Mitchell. But dueling yesterday, I 131 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: thought looked good. Ady Mitchell got himself opened. But at 132 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: the same time, you've got to do better than two 133 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: catches and six targets. However, was that on the six 134 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: targets and the two catches for Mitchell? Was that on 135 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: the defense or is that on Mitchell? 136 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 2: I think I think that one's kind of a mixture 137 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: of a couple of different things. I think a couple 138 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: of them. Yeah, you'd like to see him bring in 139 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 2: I think there's a part of Mitchell's game that you're 140 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: kind of waiting for him to take the next step. 141 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 2: And I think a big part of that is and 142 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 2: this is not at all a stab at him, it's 143 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 2: kind of that those physical catches, you know, when it's 144 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 2: contested and you've got to really battle for it. I 145 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 2: think those are where you know that they call him 146 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 2: fifty to fifty balls, and majority of the time that's 147 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 2: where you're seeing those targets that you know, not necessarily 148 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 2: a bad ball, not necessarily him not bringing you. It's 149 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: just you'd like to see him be able to haul 150 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 2: in a little bit more of those fifty to fifty 151 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 2: And I think part of that was the issue last night. 152 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 2: I can see a couple plays that you allude to. 153 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: I think he was two. I think there are six targets, 154 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 2: two catches a couple of them. I think we're in 155 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 2: those kind of ilk where it was a contested catch, 156 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 2: and those are things you would really like to see 157 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 2: ad Mitchell continued to evolve that game because ultimately, you 158 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: know where you stand in the pecking order, You're probably 159 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 2: going to be that fourth receiver. You've got to be 160 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: able to make the most of your opportunities when they 161 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 2: come to you. And that's where I'm glad you bring 162 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 2: up Ashton Doolan because he is a guy that I've 163 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: always said, you feel really really comfortable if Ashton Doolan 164 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: is your fifth receiver. You feel great about that because 165 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 2: you know exactly what he's going to give you on 166 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 2: a special team standpoint. He's one of the best gunners 167 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: in all of football. He has not lost a step, 168 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 2: and he is a very reliable weapon in the offense 169 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: side when he gets his opportunities. He's never going to be, 170 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: you know, your number one option, But like I said, 171 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: if he is your fifth receiver, feel pretty good about that. 172 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: Room Casey, do you think that the Anthony Richardson injury 173 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: and the fact that he did not return to the game, 174 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: and I think we now know Anthony Richardson for those 175 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: just joining us, it was a dislocated pinky. It was, 176 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: you know, obviously popped back into place. That's a little 177 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: weird to say, but it looks like he is not 178 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: going to miss significant practice time and in fact, we'll 179 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: be back on schedule in terms of practices. But how 180 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: does this now juxtaposts the schedule in terms of which 181 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: quarterbacks get reps, say in game number two? That is 182 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: so important. I think Richardson Originally I think we you know, 183 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: we didn't know who was going to start a game two. 184 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: Then I think they said Jones. Does this now change 185 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: things in terms of where Shane Styken goes with that? 186 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great question because that's that's kind of 187 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 2: one of the ways that you know, we've been not 188 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 2: really beating around the bush, if you will, but we've 189 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: been trying to avoid how to answer that because we 190 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 2: don't know we're going to hear from Shane Styke in 191 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: this weekend. And my guess is that all this did 192 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 2: is it just kind of flopped it because Daniel Jones 193 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 2: essentially got a quarter and a half that he was 194 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 2: anticipating getting against Green Bay. Now, the one question that 195 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: I have, and you know, I think it's a it's 196 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: a valid question, is it's kind of like sudden change. 197 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 2: You know for the defense. You know, you go out 198 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 2: and you know, you stop a team. You know, you 199 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 2: go you force a punt, and then all of a sudden, 200 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 2: the offense throws an interception. You got to run back 201 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 2: out there. In some ways, that's kind of what Daniel 202 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: Jones had to deal with yesterday because he wasn't anticipating 203 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 2: going in as early as he did, so I'm sure 204 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 2: it took him probably a series to kind of get 205 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 2: back into the flow, get in a mind frame of 206 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 2: all of that. So I don't know if that weighs 207 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 2: into things. If you want to see, like I want 208 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 2: to see Daniel Jones start a game, and maybe it's 209 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: like Daniel Jones gets a series and then they go 210 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: with Richardson, because that would I could understand that as well, 211 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: because Richardson got the start. You want to see what 212 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones does if he gets a start, So I 213 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: could understand it from both sides. But my guess is 214 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 2: that it probably just flips so that if Anthony is 215 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: available to go, and I think also it really is 216 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 2: important to notice also if he's available to go during 217 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: the joint practice, because we know how much weight they 218 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 2: put in that the stock that clearly with the amount 219 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 2: of starters that rested yesterday for the Colts, those joint 220 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 2: practices are monumental. So it'd be really good to see 221 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 2: both Jones and Richardson be able to give it a 222 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 2: full go for the joint practices, and then I would 223 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 2: assume we've kind of seen It'll just be a complete 224 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 2: flip of what the initial thought process was going to 225 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 2: be for this game too. 226 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 1: When you look at the linebacker spot, Casey Vaya is 227 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: our guest talking about the Colts of course last night 228 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: doing the postgame show, taking the calls about Ryler Leonard 229 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: and Leonard Riley for that matter, Yes, etc. Casey, When 230 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: you look at the linebacker spot, I thought Botchi played 231 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,839 Speaker 1: really well. Joe Botchi played well. He made some plays yesterday. 232 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: He is the most familiar clearly with lou An Aruma's defense. 233 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: But were we encouraged because of the fact that he 234 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: was making plays or was that illuminated by the fact 235 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: that the linebacking group still is a position that isn't 236 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: necessarily designed, especially in that defense, to make plays, and 237 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: those are designed more so for the aggressive play that 238 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: takes place behind them. 239 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's a really good point because that 240 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 2: is one of the things that we have heard from 241 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 2: Luennarumo throughout his tenure here with Indianapolis with essentially, you know, 242 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: he doesn't want tight ends guarding tight or the linebackers 243 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 2: guarding tight ends. So essentially you're going to see a 244 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 2: lot more of the multiple defensive backs and maybe just 245 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 2: one to two linebackers out there. Not I mean, it's 246 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: not devaluing the position, but I think within this framework, 247 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 2: he thinks he would prefer to have speed and coverage 248 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 2: instead of you know, the typical linebackers that you would see. 249 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 2: But I do think what you've seen at a Joe 250 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 2: BATCHI Heatherbocci has been pretty good to this point. I 251 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 2: think that interception yesterday was impressive. I mean, he was 252 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: able to you know, it was a fifty to fifty ball, 253 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 2: he went and got it. He took a nice pop, 254 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 2: I will say that, But for the most part, I 255 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 2: thought that was a very heads up, intelligent play from 256 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: a guy who has been able to run a little 257 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 2: bit more free inside this defense, being a part of 258 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 2: it for the last handful of years. But you know, 259 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: as far as the other linebackers go, I think last 260 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 2: night was, you know, an up and down night for 261 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 2: the linebacking crew, which I'm sure in turn shows what 262 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 2: lou Anroumo is expecting from you know, what his defense 263 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 2: is going to look like, being able just to utilize 264 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 2: guys like Zayer Franklin and if that is Camon mcgrone 265 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 2: or Jalen Carlive, just having just this little smaller rotation 266 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 2: of linebackers mixed in with a whole bunch more defensive backs. 267 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: By the way, the justin Wally news just sucks, right, 268 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: I mean not just and listen, I don't just me 269 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: and Casey from a football standpoint of the Colts, but 270 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: when he was drafted, we had him on. You know, 271 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: he seemed like a nice young guy, but a guy 272 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: that just showed up on from day one, yep, with 273 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: his lunch pale and his playbook and was ready to go. 274 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 1: And really I think was poised to be a breakout 275 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: draftee for the Colts. And then preseason game number one, 276 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: the knee injury, we now know out for the year. 277 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: It goes without saying that's it sucks in every way, 278 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: but football is a business that means opportunity for who. 279 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a great question, because it's funny. If 280 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 2: you'd asked me this question two weeks ago, I would 281 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 2: have said, Man, that cornerback room, it's so deep, you 282 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 2: could you could be good with any of the guys. 283 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 2: And now you look at it and you know, the 284 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 2: Wally news is crushing because of all that you just said. 285 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 2: I mean, he came in in a very tough position. 286 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 2: You know, the Colts go out in free agency and 287 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 2: bring in a former All Pro and Sharvarius Ward. You've 288 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 2: got Kenny Moore here, and Jalen Jones is the guy 289 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 2: who has started twenty six the last twenty seven games 290 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 2: for the Colts. Juju Brince was a second round pick 291 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 2: who when he's healthy, he has been in to stay 292 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 2: on the field, or anybody's able to stay on the field. 293 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 2: You've seen what he can do. So for justin Walla, 294 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 2: you come into a group that is you know, it's 295 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 2: already full of talent, and he was able to put 296 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 2: his level right above everybody else and prove that he belonged, 297 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 2: and not only belonged, but was gearing towards being a starter. 298 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 2: So that is a crushing blow. But then you know 299 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 2: I mentioned Juju Brents and Jalen Jones, both of them 300 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 2: dealing with hamstring injuries, which those soft tissue things for 301 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 2: a corner, they seem to just linger on and they 302 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 2: just drag out. So you don't want to rush anybody back, 303 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 2: especially because of the position that they play. So right now, 304 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 2: I mean Samuel Womack, probably just for him, this guarantees 305 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 2: a roster spot for him and significant playing time that 306 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 2: I saw last night. You know, you think about some 307 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 2: of these guys who maybe they aren't household names, but 308 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 2: Alex Johnson, he's a guy who goes out and has 309 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 2: a one hand interception, knocks down a pass in the 310 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 2: second quarter, and you say, hey, there's a corner maybe 311 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 2: he can give you. So there's some guys that Jonathan Edwards, 312 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 2: another undrafted rookie that has been He got some run 313 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 2: yesterday with that starting defense that they put out there. 314 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: So those are kind of the three names that right 315 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 2: now I think you're going to start to really see, 316 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 2: especially this next week. But the biggest name you want 317 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 2: to hear is Juju Brientz or Jalen Jones are getting 318 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 2: closer to returning because that will help tremendously because this 319 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 2: justin Wally News is absolutely crushing. 320 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: Okay, Casey. Lastly, you are or are not an occasional gambler. 321 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: And I don't mean on NFL games you work for 322 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: a franchise. I just mean like, if you go to Vegas, 323 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: you're going to play a couple of rounds roulette type thing. 324 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, love the game of craps. I'm a craps guy. 325 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: And there's two kinds of people in this world, those 326 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: that understand craps and those that aren't degenerates. Right, isn't 327 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: that right? 328 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 2: Okay? 329 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, So here's my gambling question for you. I'll 330 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: let you and Eddie wager on this. I have to 331 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: fly tonight through Lax to the Indy Car event in Portland. Okay, 332 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: the convenient flight of Indie Lax Lax to Portland. I 333 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: think I actually booked it way back when, so I 334 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: can't blame anybody but myself. But I just noticed that 335 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: I have a forty minute connection. Now I'm landing forty 336 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: minutes before my connecting flight is taking off, and there 337 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: is a thirty eight gate gap between the two if 338 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: you consider the landing the deboarding. I'm not in for 339 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: this one. I think I'm in, like what's like not 340 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: a con like the premium you know, midpack, I'm like 341 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: in row fifteen or something. Okay, So I will or 342 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: will not make said connecting flight. 343 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 2: I hate to do this to you, but I'm gonna 344 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 2: say you will not. And he said, thirty eight gates. 345 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: I'm coming into gate G fourteen and departing from Gate 346 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: G fifty two, same terminal though, same terminal. 347 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, same terminal. How familiar you are? How familiar 348 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 2: you are you with La s Oh? 349 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: I mean I've been there a hundred times. I'm guessing 350 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: that when you get off the plane, you just look 351 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: up and you've got to go either left or right, 352 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 1: but you gotta go through and hopefully, hopefully it's not 353 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: thirty eight gates. It's nineteen gates right right. 354 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand that completely, But it doesn't matter. 355 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: Of how long it takes me, there's always gonna be 356 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: some jackass in front of me that's holding things up 357 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: and you can't get it back out and you know 358 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 1: what I mean, somebody else jumping in line? 359 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, you got forty minutes. 360 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: Do I start when we're when we're flying over about Phoenix, 361 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 1: do I start letting everybody around me, know, like just 362 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: to get out of the way. 363 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 2: Hey, I gotta go, I gotta go. Are you do 364 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 2: you have? Are you bringing carry on? 365 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? I never do? Check bag? 366 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So I get yours and you go, Okay. 367 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: I got a roll bag and a backpack. 368 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 2: Oh man, you're uh, you're flirting with it, you know what, 369 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 2: because of your familiarity with Lax. I'm gonna give you 370 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 2: the benefit of doubt. I'm gonna change my answer, and 371 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say you're gonna make it, but it's gonna 372 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 2: be cutting it close. 373 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: Okay, Just so you know, and Eddie knows this. I'm 374 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: somebody that there used to be a lot I was 375 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: flirting with, but I'm retired now. Casey, you know you 376 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: need to make sure that that's all right, Casey Valier, 377 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: our guest, Casey a pleasure as always. Man enjoyed listening 378 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: last night and obviously a full season to be able 379 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: to do so. 380 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, if I can't wait to have you on again. 381 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 2: That could Jake appreciate it? 382 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 1: Casey Vale joining us on the program. Yes, last night, 383 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: Colts in Baltimore dropping a game to the Ravens. The 384 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: win loss in the preseason typically is irrelevant. What you 385 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: want out of a preseason game is to come out 386 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: unscathed from an injury standpoint. And yes, you could make 387 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:37,479 Speaker 1: the argument or discussion that Anthony Richardson was for the 388 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: most part unscathed because he had the dislocated pinky. We 389 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: now know that he is expected to return to practice 390 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: basically eminently. That that, and I know this sounds totally 391 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: bizarre that you know was put back into place and 392 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: then he is good to go. It's on his throwing hand. 393 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: He said that he could have gone back in even 394 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: during the game, but the Colts decided not to do so. 395 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: Kevin and joining us. Now you hear him in the 396 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: morning they were discussing this. Kevin to me the and 397 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: I want you to talk me off this ledge. It's 398 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: way too early and too irresponsible for me to say. 399 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: This is another sign of Anthony Richardson being a football 400 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: Jonathan Bender. A lot of promise, a lot of upside, 401 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: a lot of unique things, a lot of things to 402 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: salivate and fall in love with, but he can't stay 403 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: healthy and therefore, at some point you got it and 404 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: then you go, it's one preseason game, Jake, but it's 405 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: year number three and you have to have recognition through repetition, 406 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: and last night he didn't have recognition, and that prohibited 407 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: from getting repetition. And it's just another in a one 408 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: step forward, two step back, two step forward, one step 409 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: back process, and I'm reaching my wits end. Talk me 410 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: off that ledge, Yeah, don't. 411 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 3: I don't think I can, at least if you want 412 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 3: me to be honest with you, you know, as much 413 00:19:58,080 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 3: as I do want want you to get off the 414 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 3: ledge eventually just for your insanity. But yeah, I I 415 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 3: don't know. 416 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 2: You know, I wake up this morning. 417 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 3: Jacin's not as much as like, oh he's you know, 418 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 3: he's just jury prone. He's class, He's Jonathan you know, 419 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 3: you use the Jonathan Bender analogy like I'm not maybe 420 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 3: as much there as I just am man. Like how 421 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 3: he got hurt last night. It was a further reminder 422 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 3: of how far he has to go as an actual 423 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 3: football player. I mean, anybody you talk to and just 424 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 3: watching Stiken post game, watch Antheon Richardson post game. I 425 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 3: mean he made a you know, I don't want to 426 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 3: say like a cardinal sent as a quarterback, but like 427 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:42,239 Speaker 3: he made a very elementary sort of decision, or I 428 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 3: shouldn't say I shouldn't say that basically, you know, rather 429 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 3: basic one on one two, a one level quarterback play. 430 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 3: He screwed that up, and not only did it cost 431 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 3: him the rest of the game, but you know, in 432 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 3: a in a game itself, you know it could have 433 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 3: been a game changing turnover in your own territory. And 434 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 3: if you're Shane Seiken, that I think is what you 435 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 3: ask yourself this morning of like, man, who can I 436 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 3: trust week one? Because in the preseason, no one's doing 437 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 3: anything exotic. It's vanilla's vanilla can be. And you know 438 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 3: teams are now going to try and feast on that, 439 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 3: and they see vulnerability and they're going to attack that 440 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 3: if Richardson is out there. So for me, it's more 441 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 3: of just man, it's another reminder of whatever it is, 442 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 3: he's never going to get it, or it's fifteen games 443 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 3: of NFL experience that showed up last night. All of that, 444 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 3: I think is kind of where I stood with the 445 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 3: injury right now. 446 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: I just, Kevin, I really do want Anthony Richardson to succeed, 447 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: not just because of what it would mean for the 448 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 1: franchise and for the city and you know, and for 449 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: us for that matter. I mean, if we're being realistic, 450 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: for the Colts to be competitive. But there's no reason 451 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: to dislike the guy. I think his background story is impressive. 452 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: I think it's inspiring. He seems like a nice guy. 453 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: But I just think that when somebody has natural gifts 454 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: that prohibit them from having to really dig in, at 455 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: some point, when the dig in time comes, they just, 456 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: almost at no fault of theirs, don't know how to 457 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: do it. And I thought last night, even afterwards, when 458 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: he said, and I'm paraphrasing, yeah, you know, I mean 459 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: I got to mind my p's and q's better. I mean, 460 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: that's a recognition I should have seen, and you know 461 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: I'll do better next time. At some point, you have 462 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 1: to quit hearing that, right, doesn't that excuse have a 463 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: shelf limit? You know, a shelf life? 464 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? 465 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 3: I mean how long do we continue to say, well, 466 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 3: you only has fifteen games of experience. That's less than 467 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 3: you know, a full season. It's like, well, where what 468 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 3: about three years in a meeting room, like is that 469 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 3: not right? Thing? 470 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 2: That right? 471 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 3: You know, correct that moment? You know again, how long 472 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 3: do we you know, play that game? And I think 473 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 3: this is what makes it difficult too, Jacob's like, you 474 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 3: have let's say, Richardson, you know, make strides mentally identifying 475 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 3: you know, boom, he knows that read. Well, what about 476 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 3: the accuracy Okay, well that's a yeah, yeah, I kind 477 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 3: of forgot about that. Okay, well, let's say he passes 478 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 3: the accuracy test, then we might get back to the 479 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 3: injury thing, which again last night whatever, you know, ninety 480 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 3: percent of NFL quarterbacks probably suffered the same injury Richardson 481 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 3: you know did. But you know, we still have what 482 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 3: four games, that's the most he's ever started in a 483 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 3: row in the NFL. Maybe it's five something like that, 484 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 3: So we've yet to see you know, a full you know, 485 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 3: here's wow, a three month grind of starting the NFL, 486 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 3: taking those hits, trying to be as available as possible 487 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 3: for you, and that's where you just continue to start 488 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 3: to ask questions, and the questions seemingly never end with him. 489 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 3: So yeah, I just thought last night was further complicated 490 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 3: this thing and if you want to live in the 491 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 3: short term and not maybe discuss his big picture future. 492 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 3: I think Shane Steiken, you know, has to look at 493 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 3: that and be like, oh. 494 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 2: Gosh, who do I trust? Who do I trust? 495 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 3: Week one? Because again, that play last night, if that 496 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 3: ball does come loose and it's whatever fumble, I mean, 497 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 3: that's the difference between potentially winning and losing a football game. 498 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 3: And when you're dealing with the amount of job pressure 499 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 3: that I would assume is on crispout and Shane Steikin's plate. Boy, 500 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 3: that's a lot I think for me to factor. 501 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: In, Kevin, give me I'm going to do a drill 502 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 1: with you, Kevin Bow and our guests before we get 503 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: into and there are other aspects of last night to 504 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: talk about that I want to get into, but before that, 505 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: an exercise I did with Eddie a little bit ago. 506 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to do it with you, Kevin. Okay, I 507 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: want you to name for me. And I'm not talking 508 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: Bills and Chiefs or Chiefs and Eagles. I mean, those 509 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: are the obvious, right, but give me three NFL franchises 510 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: that right now. If you are a fan of an 511 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: executive of whatever you feel really good about heading into 512 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: the year. They've got a good roster. There's no reason 513 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: to believe that they, barring injury, will not be a 514 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: team contending or you know, at the very least a 515 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: divisional round of the playoffs, and just seem really solid 516 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: heading into this year. Give me three up the top 517 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: of your head. 518 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 3: I can't name bills, he said, how about Ravens. I 519 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 3: guess we'll just go with last night. How about the Lions? 520 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: Okay? 521 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 3: And I guess the Rams have got an injury right now? 522 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 3: How about the Broncos? 523 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 1: Broncos okay? Now, if you were driving around downtown Baltimore, 524 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: driving around downtown Detroit, or driving around downtown Denver and 525 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 1: they had a mural up that was twenty four stories 526 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: tall promoting the upcoming season, can you imagine any of 527 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: those three not including on it Lamar Jackson, Jared Goff 528 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: or Bo Nicks. To me, it speaks volumes about a franchise. 529 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: When you are year number three into the drafting of 530 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback and you are still not certain enough 531 00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: of his starting position to put him on the side 532 00:25:59,960 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: of the building promoting the season. Is that me being 533 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: overly critically Freudian. 534 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 2: No, No, I don't. 535 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 3: I don't think it is. And I would ask when 536 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 3: is the last time you probably would even put the 537 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 3: quarterback on such a display. 538 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: Right right? 539 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 2: I mean I guess maybe they did it last year. 540 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 3: With him. 541 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was on it last year with a group 542 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: of other players. 543 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess. I look at the Lucasolo Stadium, like 544 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 3: you know how they have the four pictures, you know, 545 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 3: two on. 546 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 2: Each side of those plays. 547 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 3: I think it's the exact same four if I'm not mistaken. 548 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 3: Who's on the front cover of the jew this year? 549 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 3: And yeah, you know, to me, it's like, yes, Jonathan Taylor, Yes, 550 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 3: Quint Nelson, Yes, to Forrest Buckner, Yes, Kenny Moore. And 551 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 3: again I don't know, maybe Matt Ryan. 552 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 2: Was on it at something. 553 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 3: I don't think Richardson was ever on it. I don't 554 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 3: think Matt Ryan is ever was ever on it. And 555 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 3: I don't know maybe Philip Rivers spent a year up there. 556 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean it's and I also think, you know, 557 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 3: I don't act like we're in a Brady Manning, Rivers 558 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 3: Roethlisberger era, but I think it's a great era for 559 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 3: the AFC right now in quarterbacks. And again they're all young. 560 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 3: I mean, Mahomes is the oldest and he's not even thirty, 561 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 3: or if he is, he just turned thirty. So this, 562 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 3: this conference of quarterbacks is just different. I mean you 563 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 3: start looking at the list of guys that didn't make 564 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 3: the playoffs last year from a quarterback standpoint, and I 565 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 3: mean it's still a couple of notable names on that 566 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 3: list there, and kind of like the West, I guess 567 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 3: with Cooper Flagg in the NBA, it's like, oh, well, 568 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 3: the number one overall, pick one to the AFC, and 569 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 3: we'll see if Camboard can be that. But you know, 570 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 3: if you're New England with Drake may or if you're 571 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 3: Cincinnati with Joe Burrow, or you know whatever, Miami with Tua, Like, 572 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 3: you know, there are a lot of other franchises that 573 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 3: didn't make the playoffs last season that still varying degrees 574 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 3: of course, but still feel you know much better about 575 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 3: that position. And I think we had this conversation last Friday. 576 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 3: I think you asked me about, Hey, you know, what 577 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 3: do you think Terry mclauran, what do you think about 578 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 3: Michael Parsons. I think you're in a state of the 579 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 3: franchise right now, where that stuff's just frozen, like you 580 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 3: can't entertain that seriously until you have quarterback. Because to me, 581 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 3: if this season does not go according to plan, you 582 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 3: have to have all the resources available to either draft 583 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 3: the quarterback straight up or go and get that quarterback 584 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 3: identify straight up, et cetera, et cetera, whatever you need 585 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 3: to do. 586 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: By the way, Anthony Richardson last year was spiking the 587 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 1: ball on the side of the JDub, right, is that right? 588 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: But again I go back to it's year three, and 589 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 1: now all of a sudden there is uncertainty, at least 590 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: in my opinion on what that means to the point. 591 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 1: But we'll see what happens moving forward. All right, Kevin 592 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: Bow and our guest we're talking about, of course, the Colts. 593 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: Last night, Kevin, let's try to look it's yesterday. Was fun. Now, 594 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: you were out there hitting like long, like what t 595 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: off shots on whole seventeen and ninety five degree heat 596 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: for four and a half hours, Is that right? Yeah? 597 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 3: Whole fifteen a long par five. There's the legends, I 598 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 3: think the toughest of the four part five. So yeah, 599 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 3: we had a game where the overall long drive one 600 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 3: of the entire outing. When a very expensive golf laser, 601 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 3: you know, you get your laser out, you know, shoot 602 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 3: it at the pen and tell you how. 603 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,239 Speaker 2: How far it is. 604 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 3: So that was the overall game. And then with each group. Yeah, 605 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 3: I went first and said, you know, you can take 606 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 3: my ball, you can leave it whatever you want to do. Uh, 607 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 3: And we had a little you know, yeah, can you 608 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 3: long drive? 609 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: You know, can you win the long drive? 610 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 3: So yeah, we definitely had I want to say two 611 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 3: maybe three, you know, we have to say you got 612 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 3: hit in the fairway. But I think two or three, 613 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 3: two or three golfers hit it longer than I did yesterday. 614 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 3: So some very impressive long ball hitters. And honestly, it 615 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 3: was late in the day, so I think these these 616 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 3: individuals that did that, they were a little looped up 617 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 3: there too. 618 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,239 Speaker 1: Harley had to be won. I think Quinn was the 619 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: winner of the longest drive competition, but. 620 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 2: He was in Harley's group. 621 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 3: Quinn, Yeah, he mashed it, and then I went out 622 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 3: there and watched his next shot. Then he hit to 623 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 3: three feet and made eagle. I was like, holy yeah, 624 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 3: Harley brought some ringers there. 625 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: That's impressive. Hardy's a good golfer too, obviously, But it 626 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: was fun yesterday. And that's my point is I don't 627 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: want everything from yesterday to be a negative because we 628 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: had a great outing. It was awesome for Franciscan, it 629 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: was great for the sponsors that were out there, people 630 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: and a lot of great folks out there. Moe was 631 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,479 Speaker 1: out there from Ohio. It was great. So let's focus 632 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: on positives. Give me two to three things that were 633 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: encouraging last night that, aside from the injuries, you look 634 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: at and go, Okay, there's something to work with there. 635 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 3: Well. Definitely Tyler Warren, the variety of ways they got 636 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 3: him involved, and again, I think there are probably three 637 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 3: or four more ways that he has touched the ball 638 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 3: Grand Park that we didn't even see last night. So 639 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 3: you know, everything about the number one pick you have 640 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 3: to be excited about. I thought JT. Towey Malowyle assuming 641 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 3: the knee injuries into severe form, I thought he had 642 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 3: a moment or two. You know, I know he's got 643 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 3: top of the roster and I don't know, maybe he's 644 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 3: not a difference maker, but I just think the Ashton 645 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 3: Doolan's story is really cool, you know, undrafted now probably 646 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 3: what six years ago, you know the college you went 647 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 3: through him alone even have football anymore. He's a versatile guy, 648 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 3: he's a reliable guy. I thought he had a couple 649 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 3: of moments, you know, probably the individual highlight was that 650 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 3: opening drive interception by Alex Johnson, undrafted kid a couple 651 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 3: of years ago. He might be playing a bigger role, 652 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 3: you know with all this justin Wally, you know, cornerback 653 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 3: injury situation, and I thought, all in all for Spencer Trader, 654 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 3: I mean to go three or four and you know 655 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 3: missus one off the upright from fifty two to fifty three. 656 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 3: You know that's that's not about adding at all. So yeah, 657 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 3: those are probably some of the individuals. Joanne Woods did 658 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 3: a couple catches late if you were staying up that 659 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 3: late to watch, So yeah, those are something ones that 660 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 3: stand out. Uh. 661 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: By the way, Eddie, did you mention what movie it 662 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: was that you meant that when I asked you that question. 663 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: Because we're gonna get Kevin in on this as well. 664 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: So Holy and Dynamite. It's great. So you loved it 665 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: when you first saw it. Now you watch it and 666 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: it's cringeworthy to you. Yeah, interesting. Okay, Kevin, give me 667 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: a movie that when you I mentioned Bill and Ted's 668 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: Excellent Adventure. When I first saw it, I thought it 669 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: was just awesome and cool and fun. And then many 670 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: years later, since I wasn't a kid anymore, I watched 671 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: it and I'm like, this is terrible, fringe worthy, cheesy 672 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: b movie, awful, terrible acting, et cetera. Give me the 673 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen equivalent. 674 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 3: See right now, Well, let me go a couple of 675 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 3: different ways with you. Right now, I find myself watching 676 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 3: like Shrek or Toy Story or like some of these 677 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 3: kid related movies that my kids want. 678 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 2: To watch, and I'm enthralled. I'm like locked in. 679 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 3: These soundtracks are unreal, the songs are stuck in my head. 680 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 3: I'm legitimately laughing. There's some like secret adult humor. 681 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, that's true of like old cartoons 682 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: for certain right, I. 683 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 3: Got that I would have, you know, right over the 684 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 3: top of my head. And now I'm like laughing out 685 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 3: loud when my kids are just staring at me, I 686 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 3: will say this Happy Gilmore two didn't do it for me, 687 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 3: and I don't know I hadn't the whole time I'm 688 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 3: watching it. I honestly just wanted to watch Happy Good 689 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 3: Moore one or I guess the original. 690 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. 691 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 3: Maybe my expectation should be a little bit more like 692 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 3: Colt's Quarterback Room of like Kevin, it's a sequel on 693 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,719 Speaker 3: a comedy. You know, it's just going to be stupid humor. 694 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 3: You just just laugh, man. But I didn't really and 695 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, you would think I would 696 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 3: have loved all the golf Golfer camp Ollough, Scotti, Sheffer 697 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 3: was funny, but that was about it. 698 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: I I did hear, I've heard. I've not seen Happy 699 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: Goodmore two yet, right, But I'm curious of this and 700 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: I like him. Has Sandler outgrown the character? Or is 701 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: Saandlor forever perpetually like the twenty five year old shiftless guy, 702 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? 703 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. Maybe the plot around it, it's like, 704 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 3: you know, it's good one time to kind of do 705 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 3: the crazy plot and then like trying to somewhat replicate 706 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 3: it and or whatever expand on it. You know, it's 707 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 3: like the Hangover, Like how many times can you kind. 708 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 2: Of do that sort of movie? 709 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,239 Speaker 3: There? I wasn't. I mean, I thought Stiller, I mean 710 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 3: Stiller made me laugh, and the fact that the shooter 711 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 3: is who's at Chris McDonald. I think the fact that 712 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 3: he's still around. 713 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,959 Speaker 2: Also me laugh. But yeah, I don't know. Of all, 714 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 2: like movies, I feel. 715 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,399 Speaker 3: Like sequels, the comedies might be the hardest thing. 716 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree, you know why, because oftentimes the 717 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: comedies that work Kevin work because it's unexpected. Like The 718 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,760 Speaker 1: Hangover was not a movie with a lot of fanfare 719 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 1: going into it, So I think a lot of people 720 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: were just like, man, I don't know what this movie's about, 721 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: but I heard it's really good. You watch it, and 722 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 1: then it was just NonStop hijinks hilarity, right, So then 723 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: you try to redo that and it's like, eh, we 724 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: are we still doing this? You know what I mean? 725 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, I think that's like the perfect way 726 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 3: to put it. Yeah, it catches you off guard. You're like, 727 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 3: oh my gosh, I did not see that coming. Where 728 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 3: it's like I'm yeah, maybe I should have just laughed 729 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 3: and been happier about it. 730 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: Hunter Waller, I thought, again kind of a late addition 731 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: to the wow, this guy's impressing me in camp conversation, 732 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: But he again looked good yesterday, And the question is 733 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: there a danger in your leading tackler being your safety. 734 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,240 Speaker 1: Was Hunter Waller a guy that there was some false 735 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: promise within the numbers that he accumulated yesterday, Kevin, or 736 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: is he a guy that continues to push for an 737 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 1: increased role on this roster with each passing week. 738 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 3: Well, I definitely think he will have a roster spot. 739 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 3: Let's start there. I think there's potential for him to 740 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 3: be involved maybe in defensive sub packages. I thought it 741 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 3: was a little mixed bag from him yesterday. Honestly, arguably 742 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 3: the biggest negative non you know Richardson situation was the 743 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 3: special teams coverage was horrendous on that kick him on 744 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 3: that pot. And I thought the run defense was really 745 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 3: poor early in the game, really throughout the first half. 746 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 3: Like the Ravens won the football game with like fifty 747 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 3: passing yards. I mean, like, how many times do you 748 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 3: see that? Not to get into wins and losses, Well, 749 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 3: why they went in, Well, they busted a few returns 750 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 3: and they ran the ball really at will, And I 751 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,919 Speaker 3: thought Wohler and those linebackers were involved in just some 752 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 3: really really poor run fit's there. So again, and I 753 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,280 Speaker 3: think he's shown up. He's definitely made plays in coverage. 754 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 3: He's going to make the team. He's probably the third 755 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 3: safety I'm trying to think, is that him and Rodney Thomas. 756 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 3: Maybe that started last night with Cam Biningham and Nick 757 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 3: Cross both sitting out. So yeah, I you know, seventh 758 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 3: round picks to say on August eighth through on the 759 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 3: football team, let alone they might have a role on 760 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 3: an offense or defensive side of the ball is pretty rare. 761 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 3: So he's definitely done a lot of good. 762 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: How concerned are you about special teams? 763 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say, you know, yeah, semi concerned. I mean, 764 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,800 Speaker 3: Rigoberto Sanchez is great at what he does. You know, 765 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,760 Speaker 3: I think Anthony Gould actually had a couple of moments 766 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 3: as a returner last night. But you know, coverage wise, 767 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 3: they lost Grant Steward easily their best special teamer, and 768 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 3: then he's even some other guys like Kylan Granson played 769 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,359 Speaker 3: some roles on special teams and a couple others that 770 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,919 Speaker 3: you know they have to replace. And then kicker, I mean, 771 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 3: outside of five teams, probably everybody in the league is 772 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 3: legitimately like afraid at kicker, you know, uneasy at kicker. 773 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 3: You're like two bad weeks away from everybody is calling 774 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 3: kickers around the league to you know, bring them in 775 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,240 Speaker 3: for a for a for a tryout. 776 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 2: So, you know, Trader, it's weird. 777 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 3: I I feel like watching him kick so far in 778 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 3: a couple of weeks of spring or a couple weeks 779 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 3: of camp, it just he literally looks like Matt Gay 780 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 3: to me, like he's had a nice percentage. His misses 781 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 3: seemingly are all fifty yards or longer, and he. 782 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 2: Hits him off the uprights. 783 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 3: I mean last night he all than that like, so 784 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 3: you know, to me, it's like, is that panic button 785 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 3: at Kicker? And this probably gets back into more of 786 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 3: a Matt Gay off season conversation And I guess to 787 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 3: go down that path for a second. Did Matt Gay 788 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 3: live up for a contract? No? Was it a defcon 789 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 3: level that all of a sudden. 790 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 2: You needed to cut him? 791 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 3: I didn't think so either, especially when it's not like 792 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 3: that money was then used elsewhere. So that is just 793 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 3: a little surprising to me that like they went that 794 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 3: panicky at Kicker. We'll see how plays out. But yeah, Strader, again, 795 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 3: it's been very Matt Gay like to me. 796 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: You know, a guy that Kevin Bowen is our guest. 797 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 1: You hear him in the mornings on of course the 798 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: Fan Morning Show along with James Boyd and jeff Rickord 799 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,919 Speaker 1: talking about the Colts from last night. Kevin a guy 800 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 1: that I'm interested to watch what happens because they have 801 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 1: been so patient with him through the injuries. And that's 802 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 1: Jelanie Woods And you mentioned tight end. You know, it's 803 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 1: a it's a crowded room for certain Did anybody if 804 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: you're talking about non Tyler Warren division, really stand out 805 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,240 Speaker 1: or separate themselves, including notably Woods? 806 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 3: You know, again, I thought Woods got a couple catches late. 807 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 3: I think he's got a bit of a hill of 808 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 3: the climb to make the team though. And you know 809 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,959 Speaker 3: a lot of times Jaking Lu's preseason games have been like, okay, 810 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 3: when are you playing in the game. The earlier you play, 811 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 3: obviously the better. The later you play, it's not a 812 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 3: good indication of where you're at in the roster. WHI 813 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 3: Jelani Wood was in that game very late. So you 814 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 3: know the guys that didn't play a tight end were 815 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 3: was Moiley Cox and then Tyler Warren exited. You know, rather, 816 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 3: I guess somewhat early. Obviously they're safe. And then I 817 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 3: think next up was Drew Ogle Tree and Will Mallory. 818 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 3: I think they're safe. Tight End seems simple to me. 819 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 3: I think they keep four and Joannie Woods. Maybe it's 820 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,959 Speaker 3: some the practice squad, so I don't I don't really 821 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 3: have too much. I think tight end, a wide receiver 822 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 3: is very easy to cut down. I don't know how 823 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 3: many years I've said that. I think whiteouts, it's a 824 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 3: pretty clear six, it's pitting in, it's pierced, it's downs, 825 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 3: it's MI and then five and six is Anthony Gould 826 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 3: and Ashton Dooland. So yeah, to me, the pass catchers 827 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 3: are pretty easy. 828 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 1: Please tell me that Ulysses Bentley the Fourth is going 829 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: to make the roster. I need this to happen because 830 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 1: I'm creating the character of Ulysses Bentley the Fourth on 831 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:15,720 Speaker 1: the radio show. 832 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 2: Gosh. 833 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 3: I feel such shame and admitting that I laughed when 834 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 3: I heard that voice between you and I don't know 835 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 3: if I laugh more at your voice or more at 836 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 3: Joel Ericson laughing at you. The Joel a Ericson laugh 837 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 3: is one of the best laughs out there. 838 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: It is pretty solid. Yes, yeah, it is so. 839 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. When he got in the game last night, I thought, 840 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 3: oh boy, for Jake's ego, would this be good if 841 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 3: he ripped off a fifty yard run? 842 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 2: But he did not. 843 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 3: There. I do not think Bentley the fourth no right 844 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 3: running back? He keeps three maybe four now, he's not 845 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 3: one of those I don't know. Maybe practice squad. But 846 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 3: Tyler good, send DJ get Ins and then we'll see 847 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 3: about Khalil Herbert. 848 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 1: You know, Ulysses Bentley the fourth should be number zero 849 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: technically speaking, right, because then the back of his jersey 850 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,479 Speaker 1: would say you be forty right, which would be cool, 851 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: would it not? 852 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 3: I mean there's literally nothing you have said has ever 853 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:12,959 Speaker 3: summed up here in the final hour of the week 854 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 3: like that. 855 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 1: You know, if you listen, Bentley the fourth does not 856 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: make the roster. Kevin, He's gonna be okay because there's 857 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 1: going to go work on a family business. I mean, 858 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,320 Speaker 1: it's just laid out for him. It goes without saying. 859 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: Does it not seem like does the name Ulysses Bentley 860 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,359 Speaker 1: the fourth not just absolutely scream of the guy though 861 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: that is sitting in front of a fireplace reading Shakespeare. 862 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's yeah, like you said, you know somebody that 863 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 3: was whatever, a general in the French and Indian War, 864 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 3: you know who, Yeah, something along along those lines there. 865 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that was actually the second. 866 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,760 Speaker 3: Yes, this is the fourth, and cousin of Stetson Bennett 867 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,240 Speaker 3: the fourth. If we could go back to our Georgia quarterback. 868 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 1: That is correct. So you did not yesterday play You 869 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 1: just hit long drives all day, right. 870 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's so embarrassing how sore I felt this 871 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 3: morning waking up. I loved it, honestly, And you know again, 872 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 3: I hope that next year we can do this, and 873 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:08,919 Speaker 3: you know, I think it'd be awesome. We can get 874 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 3: you on the course doing trivia within the show. I 875 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 3: think it's like, you know, again, how do we make 876 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,239 Speaker 3: kind of our outing unique? And I think having you know, 877 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:18,840 Speaker 3: all of us out there on the course so you 878 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,399 Speaker 3: see every group, you know, some of these outings, it's like, oh, yeah, 879 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:22,799 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go play in the outing, and well, if 880 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 3: you're play in the outing, you don't see every group, 881 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 3: whereas if you're on one hole, every group obviously you're 882 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 3: seeing you At yeah point. 883 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 1: I mean we saw everybody doing I saw everybody at 884 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: the beginning, and then I had to do the show, right, 885 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 1: so during the time that people are playing, I'm you know, 886 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 1: I was doing the show. 887 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I we. 888 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 3: Need some sports Jeopardy, I think. And then obviously John 889 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 3: and the Papa shot if I worked out nicely. So yeah, 890 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 3: it was a fun day. I think we can definitely 891 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,320 Speaker 3: continue to make it better though, and really appreciate everybody 892 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 3: coming out and hope they had a fun time down 893 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 3: there with the legends. 894 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 1: All right, Kevin, should be a good weekend. Certainly enjoy 895 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:55,799 Speaker 1: it and we'll talk to you soon. All right, we'll 896 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 1: be listening on Monday to get the breakdown of what 897 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 1: happens over the weekend with the Colts. Eddie, thank you, 898 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 1: all right, Kevin Bellen joining us