Speaker 1: The Frames per Second Podcast.
Speaker 2: What's going on in boy Nick, I'm here with Kenneth
Speaker 2: by Ollo, Mike C town Yo, I am Spike Lou
Speaker 2: of the on Deck TV show.
Speaker 3: And another week in the books. How you doing Man?
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Speaker 1: Doing good?
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Speaker 3: How y'all doing good?
Speaker 4: Good good?
Speaker 2: And you now tuned into the frames per Second Podcast?
Speaker 2: And in this episode, Longley waited, can it's still a hit?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Longle awaited season three recap of the HBO original
Speaker 2: series House of the Dragon. This recap is dedicated to
Speaker 2: episode one of the third season, titled Salt and Seed,
Speaker 2: Fire and Blood. So this is two years after our
Speaker 2: last week two week recaps of House of the Dragon
Speaker 2: season two. We kind of all had mixed reviews on it,
Speaker 2: but yeah, we're back at it again.
Speaker 3: So I ain't gonna be the lead.
Speaker 2: I want to get everybody's overall thoughts on the first episode.
Speaker 2: I'll start with the rights for first, with miss miss Nake.
Speaker 3: Just talking about did you did you?
Speaker 2: Did you rewatch it before coming to this episode and
Speaker 2: if so, like, how does that set you in for
Speaker 2: like your overall thoughts?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I did I rewatched season two, and it made me
Speaker 5: excited to be because I honestly, it's like, Okay.
Speaker 4: I knew it was coming.
Speaker 5: I knew I was gonna watch it, but I wasn't
Speaker 5: like excited because I was kind of men on season two.
Speaker 5: There were things that I wasn't like. It wasn't quite
Speaker 5: as good as the first season. But I'm glad that
Speaker 5: I rewatched the second one because it kind of built
Speaker 5: the excitement up. It made me feel like season two
Speaker 5: might not have been quite as bad as I thought
Speaker 5: it was. Like it felt it felt like a set
Speaker 5: up season. So it made me excited for what this
Speaker 5: episode was gonna be.
Speaker 1: And I was.
Speaker 4: I was pleasantly surprised. I enjoyed this season one.
Speaker 5: They came in, I was like, Nick, gonna like this episode?
Speaker 3: Yet I ain't say nothing.
Speaker 1: But I would go to ride.
Speaker 3: What's up?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 3: What was your thoughts?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I did not rewatch it.
Speaker 6: Yeah I would have liked to rewatch it, but now
Speaker 6: I just got to read the Nigga that nigga recap.
Speaker 4: From or whatever.
Speaker 3: Those be the best recaps sometimes.
Speaker 4: Hey, it be the best recaps.
Speaker 6: I knew she was gonna recap it well, but they
Speaker 6: did a good job with the recap on this one.
Speaker 6: I thought too. It definitely aligned with what she had
Speaker 6: told me. But I did I did like season two,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. I didn't have a problem
Speaker 6: with it. It felt like it like she was just
Speaker 6: saying it felt like a set up, uh season for
Speaker 6: what was gonna happen this season. So I didn't have
Speaker 6: a problem with it. And yeah, I didn't have I
Speaker 6: definitely didn't have a problem with this. I feel like
Speaker 6: they came out very strong with this one, and they
Speaker 6: ain't wasting no time.
Speaker 4: So I really enjoyed this one. It was very entertaining.
Speaker 1: Loue.
Speaker 3: What about you?
Speaker 2: You the Game of Throws experts, Someone talk to you
Speaker 2: about a couple of these names when we go through
Speaker 2: the episode.
Speaker 7: But all right, I didn't rewatch it. I did a recap.
Speaker 7: I watched the recap just to make sure I was
Speaker 7: in the right place for it was. I didn't like
Speaker 7: season two. I feel like it was incomplete. I feel
Speaker 7: like it didn't end like it was supposed to. But
Speaker 7: as I was getting ready for season this season, they
Speaker 7: said that these two episodes were supposed to be the
Speaker 7: last two episodes of that season and now it makes
Speaker 7: sense they were supposed to close out season two, so
Speaker 7: opening up this way, I liked it. I liked the stakes,
Speaker 7: how everything was set right out the gate, you knew
Speaker 7: what you was in for. I like to set up
Speaker 7: for it. I like how they dropped us right back
Speaker 7: in with the characters. So I was here for this
Speaker 7: first episode.
Speaker 1: What about you?
Speaker 8: My yep, yep? This was this was good. I did
Speaker 8: not go back. I wish I had. I just didn't
Speaker 8: have the time because I mean, I'm I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 8: Most of this episode. I was confused as ship. I
Speaker 8: was like, I don't know who. I don't know who
Speaker 8: this is. I don't know what the hell they're doing.
Speaker 8: Who is this fucking guy whose head did you chop off?
Speaker 1: I don't know who this is the only person you
Speaker 1: recognized with Snake.
Speaker 8: I recognized Corliss because we're gonna talk about him, and
Speaker 8: I recognized his illegitimate child. But most of these people, yeah,
Speaker 8: I was just like, I don't remember. I did do
Speaker 8: I did watch a recap, but the YouTube recaps weren't
Speaker 8: great for this. I should have just Spike and Na
Speaker 8: should have got together and did a fucking recap video.
Speaker 8: It would have been way more beneficial because I watched
Speaker 8: two different ones and I was still just like, I'm
Speaker 8: I don't remember.
Speaker 3: I like, I should have asked you. I don't know
Speaker 3: why I didn't.
Speaker 4: That's a good idea. We should do that.
Speaker 3: We should do exactly.
Speaker 4: I was thinking that.
Speaker 1: Good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, who's we you mean, Nan, Spike?
Speaker 4: Yeah, just just us, Like if we're coming up on
Speaker 4: a on a on a new series or something, just
Speaker 4: doing a recap or something.
Speaker 8: Could be cool. It could be cool. I think I
Speaker 8: got the time to do it. But anyway, this episode
Speaker 8: was great. I really enjoyed it. Even though I was
Speaker 8: a little confused, I really enjoyed it. Action packed, and
Speaker 8: what Spike just said makes complete sense. That this was
Speaker 8: supposed to end the last season. The last season would
Speaker 8: have been a lot better if they let this ride out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, fact, this was supposed to be.
Speaker 7: Actually episode nine is nick called the pen ultimate episode
Speaker 7: next week. It's supposed to be the finale of last season.
Speaker 7: Why didn't they do that because of the buyout deal? Oh,
Speaker 7: because of the buyout do that was depending on the
Speaker 7: table they thought they had with Netflix. The studio wouldn't
Speaker 7: let HBO added to the last season, they only would
Speaker 7: let them do eight episodes whose they were trying to
Speaker 7: save money and make the books look different for when
Speaker 7: who is Warner Brothers or Netflix was trying to buy
Speaker 7: them or whatever it may be, So they were they
Speaker 7: cut these two episodes off the book because there was
Speaker 7: expensive episodes and they starting where they were supposed to
Speaker 7: end that so episode three was supposed to be the
Speaker 7: original series open, So they're moving the money around. Yeah, exactly, because.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't have wanted season two to end as similarly
Speaker 5: as season one did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because then you hit a path Yeah sure, sure, yeah,
Speaker 2: mm hmm, what about you?
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Yeah. I enjoyed it very similarly to Mike.
Speaker 1: I was very confused with the characters except the Black
Speaker 1: Ones and of course Rainer, but yeah, some of them
Speaker 1: other folks. I was like, I, you know, I didn't
Speaker 1: think most of them would be relevant anyway, and half
Speaker 1: of them be soon, so I didn't even really care
Speaker 1: all that much. But yeah, once we got into that,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I was talking to the TV
Speaker 1: the rest of the damn episode. Yeah, I was cussing
Speaker 1: everybody up.
Speaker 3: I'm going to get stream I did not like this episode.
Speaker 3: At you lying that I loved it. I love it.
Speaker 3: I love Hey.
Speaker 2: I was shocked and and this is Game of Thrones
Speaker 2: that I was shot because I'm like, damn, I got comfortable.
Speaker 3: Rod, I should never get comfortable watching this show.
Speaker 2: I got comfortable like it's the first it's the first
Speaker 2: episode in two years.
Speaker 3: We just you know, we're still getting started. They came
Speaker 3: out and said, nah, funk all that, Like, I feel.
Speaker 4: Like Game of Thrones change your perspective how you watch TV?
Speaker 3: Did That's what I'm saying, Like I shouldn't be the one.
Speaker 3: I shouldn't be.
Speaker 2: The one saying this. It should be somebody else in
Speaker 2: the crew. Like I did not expect. I just didn't
Speaker 2: expect that. And I know we're all on the same
Speaker 2: beat because coming out of Juneteenth Weekend, they the way
Speaker 2: they start, they showed black folks starting this season. I
Speaker 2: did not like that at all. I thought it was
Speaker 2: a direction. It ain't even that. It's the choices that
Speaker 2: some of these black folks made that.
Speaker 1: I was like, I was concerned, like cool, like two
Speaker 1: of them is.
Speaker 3: We're gonna get some real nigga shit too.
Speaker 1: But we go.
Speaker 3: Let's let's start off with this I'm glad that we
Speaker 3: all on the same page.
Speaker 1: We all liked it.
Speaker 3: We start off this season this episode with what's with.
Speaker 2: The black girl named Raina goofing around in the wilderness
Speaker 2: trying to find a lost dog, the dangerous dog, any
Speaker 2: any part.
Speaker 3: Of the woods and in the streets. She's trying to
Speaker 3: find that motherfucker aka sheep stealer.
Speaker 2: And she ends up that was the work. I had
Speaker 2: the captions on rod too soon. You know, I'm expecting
Speaker 2: a good name and all that ship still cheers, sound
Speaker 2: like some goofy ass.
Speaker 3: Didn't they call it the sheep Stealer last season?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's his name.
Speaker 4: He was.
Speaker 5: They hadn't They had no idea this I don't remember.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so this dragon was like why it's wild and white?
Speaker 5: It was rumors that there was, but I don't think
Speaker 5: it had a name or anything.
Speaker 7: Okay, they referenced it, but they hadn't seen it. They
Speaker 7: referenced sheep as sheep.
Speaker 2: Stealer, as sheep stealer. I didn't remember that they did.
Speaker 2: I'm probably I'm probably wrong.
Speaker 3: That was so trashed. I probably forgot about it until.
Speaker 7: They did as sheep stealer. But nobody has seen it
Speaker 7: and didn't know for sure that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we see that she eventually does bond it,
Speaker 2: but we're gonna get to that. We quickly go to
Speaker 2: see Aiming, drags blue. What's the black dudes day that
Speaker 2: they got a run?
Speaker 7: Sleeps his bed while it was the first breaguon he
Speaker 7: went to. He didn't go to know he went to
Speaker 7: him first. I just gotta go to the black I
Speaker 7: know you got something to do with this ship.
Speaker 3: Little.
Speaker 2: He was ready to judge jury executioner in three seconds.
Speaker 3: My man was like, damn, can you least tell me
Speaker 3: what I did?
Speaker 2: As I ain't way too much like when a black
Speaker 2: dude gave him to buy the Cops.
Speaker 3: I didn't do nothing. I didn't do nothing. I didn't
Speaker 3: like him. Oh my.
Speaker 1: Damn. He was like, damn, what's cool?
Speaker 3: So I got it by tell me borrow Q and
Speaker 3: library why you did?
Speaker 2: Like how we started off with Aiming and and uh,
Speaker 2: this season of Game of throw.
Speaker 3: Or it felt like an episode of Cops.
Speaker 8: They busting and they waking up about his sleep and
Speaker 8: dragging him into the other room and they putting iron
Speaker 8: and plus I ain't I don't remember this dude, So
Speaker 8: I was thinking the same thing.
Speaker 3: That's like this. I'm like, why you why you picked
Speaker 3: the one black guy in the whole castle? Did you say?
Speaker 3: What did you say name?
Speaker 5: He's the only one who he's the doctor. He's like
Speaker 5: the only one who's been helping his brother. Well besides
Speaker 5: besides the lip, the law, the handicap man, yeah, Larrys,
Speaker 5: besides him.
Speaker 3: Man, I had a cap man.
Speaker 5: Name.
Speaker 4: I don't know nobody's names.
Speaker 5: That's gonna be throughout the whole episode.
Speaker 1: Las.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he's the doctor.
Speaker 5: So he's assuming that he hadn't got him the hell
Speaker 5: off out because he's the only one who's been he's
Speaker 5: been the one who's supposed to be helping him here.
Speaker 8: That's okay, I don't remember him. Maybe I'll try to
Speaker 8: squeeze in rewatch before the next one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought he was on the counsel. I forgot
Speaker 3: he was his his.
Speaker 5: He's like the grand he's like the secretary. Yeah, he's
Speaker 5: a doctor of the the kingdom.
Speaker 3: What's fund up? As I thought he was like a
Speaker 3: house service.
Speaker 8: He sit at the table with him at the table,
Speaker 8: I thought he was cleaning the TABLESI.
Speaker 4: And I look.
Speaker 7: Like that because they don't listen to him, like they
Speaker 7: don't listen to him. He just sit at the table
Speaker 7: with them and like he got real input in.
Speaker 3: Sir Trump came through and said this ship.
Speaker 4: Get rid of the d I.
Speaker 1: Just got the Raven to day.
Speaker 3: So Rob, what is what did you think about how
Speaker 3: we opened.
Speaker 2: Up this this episode and also like we are kicking
Speaker 2: off like immediately after season two, so like there's no
Speaker 2: time jump like how it was in season one. Like
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like we're kicking off like
Speaker 2: I think it feels like the next night, two days, two.
Speaker 3: Days after survive.
Speaker 2: What would you think about the way Aman was just
Speaker 2: like it was just moving quickly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I was telling Nay.
Speaker 6: I was like, man, they jumped right into this because,
Speaker 6: like I said, after getting her recap and then watching it,
Speaker 6: I was just like, dang, they really picked up right
Speaker 6: when they left off, even from her trying to get
Speaker 6: the dragon or whatever. So yeah, I thought that was
Speaker 6: that was really interesting that they got right into it. Man,
Speaker 6: they didn't waste no time. It just kind of kept
Speaker 6: their foot on the gas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, kid, I was wondering if you thought it was
Speaker 2: like very opportunistic for Amen to be like all right
Speaker 2: since he gone, I'm the King now neck got on
Speaker 2: that seat asap.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he did freak the mom out because Aim is
Speaker 1: crazy anyway. But and if I remember correctly, he was
Speaker 1: gonna kill him regardless, so that that was going to
Speaker 1: be his seat. So uh so yeah, he just his
Speaker 1: playing got you know, spoiled. But yeah, he just he
Speaker 1: just went through where uh he was gonna go anyway.
Speaker 1: M hm.
Speaker 2: We then see in juxtaposition of all that happening, uh Lord, Laura, Lawrence,
Speaker 2: and Agon riding in the damn Chicken coop on their
Speaker 2: way to quote unquote safe passage.
Speaker 3: But they get stopped up quick like, I don't know
Speaker 3: how far they got away.
Speaker 2: They get stopped up by Vernaia's guards who are loyal
Speaker 2: to her. Lou was this smart for Larrus to do
Speaker 2: what he did that quickly?
Speaker 7: Once he's seen how dumb the king was was gonna
Speaker 7: be that all you had to really do was just
Speaker 7: act like you weren't him and bow the knee. Y
Speaker 7: would have been moving on. But once Laura's seen it,
Speaker 7: you can't even pass this little test right here. I
Speaker 7: ain't no road trup, boss, Like we're gonna go back
Speaker 7: to home base where we got to to come up
Speaker 7: with another plan. And I believe he thinks he's smart
Speaker 7: enough to be able to pitch Raniero on another plane.
Speaker 7: So that's why he was like, I'm out. I'm not
Speaker 7: doing a road trip with him.
Speaker 1: Look, I think this point, I thought he was hurting
Speaker 1: too bad to nil and that's why he didn't want
Speaker 1: to get down there until he kept refusing the nail
Speaker 1: because he had he had just been begging for milk
Speaker 1: of the poppy. So I thought he was too much pain. Well,
Speaker 1: he hooked on that. That was not the case. He talxing. Now,
Speaker 1: that wasn't the case.
Speaker 7: He got down there quick, he detoxing because he been
Speaker 7: hooked on it for the pain. And then I think
Speaker 7: once Lawrens seemed like how something as simple as like
Speaker 7: just lie real quick, bro, and we're off on the
Speaker 7: races and you can't even do that.
Speaker 3: Oh no, he's the king. We need to see.
Speaker 7: Raniero, we need a audience, all that shit. Yeah, he's
Speaker 7: gonna say because he's thinking of the next plan though.
Speaker 2: Because because right in my head I'm like, okay, you
Speaker 2: don't bend the knee.
Speaker 3: But then you get.
Speaker 2: Upset with him when he starts saying, like what else,
Speaker 2: what else you think was gonna happen? Like you were
Speaker 2: you ready to die right then and there for not
Speaker 2: being in the knee, But then you're gonna get upset
Speaker 2: that he's telling the truth.
Speaker 4: Like I think it's his pride thing. We saw that
Speaker 4: last season, like he was just.
Speaker 6: So hell bent on being the king and being in
Speaker 6: this position that even in the face of death, he
Speaker 6: was not ready to to even lie that he you know,
Speaker 6: wasn't the king, you know what I'm saying, Like like
Speaker 6: that that because what a he asking to do to
Speaker 6: to to to to ben the neede to to to
Speaker 6: and his pride couldn't let him do it. His pride
Speaker 6: couldn't let him do it. I thought it was interesting.
Speaker 6: I took that scene like like how that how those
Speaker 6: that character is I think he I think he does.
Speaker 6: Think he's smart enough to just kind of like, Okay,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna enable this, because we saw that in Game
Speaker 6: of Thrones, Like what's his saying something A little finger
Speaker 6: could always on a whim change up the plan and
Speaker 6: then figure it out once it gets there. And I
Speaker 6: feel like that's what he was doing or whatever. I
Speaker 6: thought it was interesting that he was like somebody going
Speaker 6: dow today, what about them or whatever? You can see
Speaker 6: them in the back killing them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I was just like, yeah, that was.
Speaker 3: Crazy Nay to me.
Speaker 2: That was the more interesting part of that scene, was
Speaker 2: like how Laru's is just like, oh, I don't give
Speaker 2: a fuck about them, like Nigga, we just all banded
Speaker 2: together to get you out and you're just gonna kill
Speaker 2: us like this.
Speaker 5: That's Larry's though, That's always been Larry.
Speaker 4: He's very self serving, which is why.
Speaker 5: One eyed Jack don't fuck with him.
Speaker 4: His brother.
Speaker 5: Amen, I don't know which one is which aim An
Speaker 5: I don't I can't tell a.
Speaker 3: Gan is the one who's burnt up now, it was
Speaker 3: just who didn't bend the knee?
Speaker 6: And then aymen don't mess with Larry's because he knows
Speaker 6: he's self serving.
Speaker 5: He's gone from Alison to trying to be up under
Speaker 5: aiming to now trying to get you to get out
Speaker 5: of a gun. That's just who he is. He's always
Speaker 5: trying to figure out the next play to get him
Speaker 5: closer to what he wants, which is power too.
Speaker 2: Now, Mike, with this scene, do you believe that like
Speaker 2: Lerious is the one that is just using Eggon or
Speaker 2: does he actually you feel like there's still like a
Speaker 2: bond being created because you don't want like every iteration
Speaker 2: of the Game of Thrones there's a random bond between
Speaker 2: like two avasars and like Jamie and that one night
Speaker 2: or yeah, like it's just like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I feel like that's what they're building up with these
Speaker 2: two because they're now like how you saying.
Speaker 1: My bad nack?
Speaker 3: No, I think they're he's just using him.
Speaker 8: I think he's using him because if he can get
Speaker 8: in good with him and stay good with him and
Speaker 8: then just wait for everybody else to kill each other
Speaker 8: and then bring him on back after that, and he's
Speaker 8: gonna automatically have a place, you know, in the in
Speaker 8: the King's Guard. So I think that's all he's doing. Yeah,
Speaker 8: he'll be the hand because it can't be the foot.
Speaker 3: And he could be the but he got the biggest.
Speaker 3: He could be the move we got the feature. I
Speaker 3: personally can't wait can for for where they go to.
Speaker 2: I don't know if how quickly they'll move him to,
Speaker 2: especially after all the ship that's happened in this episode
Speaker 2: them seeing Ranera, but I feel like I want to see, like,
Speaker 2: what's up next to them.
Speaker 7: I feel like that may happen next episode, since that
Speaker 7: was supposed to be the finale. I feel like that's
Speaker 7: in fact that ain't We ain't have to wait on
Speaker 7: Granera get the king and Larius in front of him.
Speaker 2: Speaking of, we didn't go see Rnera in the aftermath
Speaker 2: of her secret meeting with Alison where they agreed to,
Speaker 2: you know, unite one last time for her f for
Speaker 2: her to finally take her rightfle place on the throne,
Speaker 2: and she's expected everything, you know, to be sweet. She
Speaker 2: over here is telling everybody in the in the council like, hey, listen, y'all.
Speaker 3: We want Yeah, Jay s ain't having none of that shit. Nay,
Speaker 3: What did you think of er in this episode?
Speaker 2: Because she was in a very interesting place moving forward
Speaker 2: from this point.
Speaker 5: I think that she's she got way too excited. I
Speaker 5: don't necessarily I think this was interesting because neither one
Speaker 5: of them was wrong. Alison was sincerely about to let
Speaker 5: her in and do what she intends what she had
Speaker 5: communicated she was gonna do. And Ranera does have a
Speaker 5: different relationship with Alison than everybody else, so she wasn't wrong.
Speaker 5: She just was way too excited about it and didn't
Speaker 5: take a minute to think about or prepare in case
Speaker 5: she was wrong. And Jace was right in trying to
Speaker 5: bring that out to her. But they both it's the same.
Speaker 5: It's the situation that we're near's in with every nigga
Speaker 5: in that kingdom. It's like they don't trust her judgment,
Speaker 5: but she's so busy also trying to prove herself that
Speaker 5: she's not heeding their judgment either. It's the same ship
Speaker 5: with Dana mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Do you feel the same way, Ron, Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I do, I do. I just thought it was
Speaker 6: I thought it was funny when what's the name the
Speaker 6: one from the other council now the sons.
Speaker 4: As Allison. I thought it was funny.
Speaker 6: When she got back in it she realized he was
Speaker 6: on the throne, she was just like, oh, her face
Speaker 6: changed was man, she was just like, wait.
Speaker 4: This this, this ain't how it's supposed to be. Like
Speaker 4: what the other nigga?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 6: So so yeah, I thought that whole thing was interesting.
Speaker 6: I'm with Nate too.
Speaker 4: I don't think either neither one of them was wrong
Speaker 4: per se.
Speaker 6: It just you know, I think they just all just
Speaker 6: need to actually have a counsel and talk about these things,
Speaker 6: and they just don't.
Speaker 4: And they had trust each other.
Speaker 3: Right for good reason.
Speaker 2: Mike, I was going to ask you, was Jace's right
Speaker 2: to question her logic on this handshake deal she had
Speaker 2: with Alison?
Speaker 8: Yeah? Yeah, I mean I don't like Jason. He was
Speaker 8: annoying the shit out of me, but he at first
Speaker 8: was making sense. He's like, why are you trusting her?
Speaker 8: This sounds like a trap. I mean, I get why
Speaker 8: she would run with it. She just wants this to
Speaker 8: be over. But at the same time I understood why.
Speaker 8: Jace was like, you're being stupid. This is not your
Speaker 8: old friend that you used to tell your little host
Speaker 8: stories too. This is you know, this is your enemy,
Speaker 8: so why are you believing her?
Speaker 1: But didn't feel like Jason just wanted to go to
Speaker 1: War two anyway. He's been trying to get out there
Speaker 1: on the battlefield. I don't know why last season.
Speaker 4: Brother brother too.
Speaker 3: It's also when they brought up earlier like he's a
Speaker 3: bastard too. He's a high end bastard.
Speaker 2: But he's been trying to prove himself, like in the
Speaker 2: same spirited way, like his mom is like, I got
Speaker 2: to prove that I'm worthy to be here, and especially dragons. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and also lou you said this is just two days
Speaker 2: later they didn't they have a conversation like in episode
Speaker 2: seven of season two, Like he was like, I feel
Speaker 2: like a bastard, like especially when you do.
Speaker 3: He was, he was upset about the like you said.
Speaker 2: Them giving out them those neglets dragons and ship and
Speaker 2: he's like, what makes.
Speaker 3: Me different from them? If you're giving everybody a dragon?
Speaker 2: You know? So I think him being this gung hole
Speaker 2: to start off the season again, I had to put
Speaker 2: it in context and like a lot of y'all said,
Speaker 2: like I had to catch up to what was going
Speaker 2: on as I'm watching it. Yeah, these emotions are still fresh.
Speaker 1: And he's a sixteen year old old kid too, and
Speaker 1: the mom knows that. So the mom already knew that
Speaker 1: he just wasn't where he needed to be and that's
Speaker 1: why she was trying to, you know, get him under control.
Speaker 1: But you know, and sixteen year olds just don't fucking listen.
Speaker 7: So but does anybody listen to her? Like, I think
Speaker 7: that's her problem. No one listens to her, like she can't.
Speaker 7: She she can't, like she has no like rule of thumb.
Speaker 7: Twereh it's gonna be like, okay, we can go.
Speaker 1: Is that the reason?
Speaker 7: Because yeah, yeah, woman, Yeah, I don't even think it's
Speaker 7: just because she's a woman, though. Can I just see
Speaker 7: she don't assunt her garminige in most situations.
Speaker 3: She let people go back like she letting this little sixteen.
Speaker 7: Year old go back and forth with her about what
Speaker 7: he think is right and what she'm her son. Hey,
Speaker 7: look I didn't none of sir, she's kids try her
Speaker 7: like that.
Speaker 3: That's not like they knew, Like it wasn't none of that,
Speaker 3: like they wouldn't.
Speaker 7: It's other women in this show that can don't do.
Speaker 3: All of them the bad older son nigga. He was
Speaker 3: he was about the job. She wasn't listen to her.
Speaker 1: He was kind of crazy.
Speaker 5: Because the woman though, because she slapped the ship, I
Speaker 5: don't wanted the dude last season and they still don't
Speaker 5: listen to her.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's all because she's a woman.
Speaker 7: Like with this, I agree with that, but I think
Speaker 7: there's still something that she could do as a character
Speaker 7: to make them listen to her, Like what happened to
Speaker 7: her later on. What happened later on in this episode
Speaker 7: was unacceptable, like that that should never happen, like you
Speaker 7: shouldn't that shouldn't happen to you as the queen, and
Speaker 7: when the end result of it about totally in the wrong.
Speaker 7: You know we're talking about right now, Jason's totally the wrong. Yeah,
Speaker 7: I listened to your opinion. I don't agree with you.
Speaker 7: Go to your room, get out of here, got.
Speaker 4: It, Go to your chambers.
Speaker 7: Yeah, your chambers, out of here. Bro You and he
Speaker 7: had the chance to do what he did later you
Speaker 7: you in, you in your room already.
Speaker 3: So I mean we're gonna we're gonna talk about it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, go ahead, Mike, you have something to
Speaker 3: say just about that part.
Speaker 1: So no, I'm good.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's funny is that in juxtaposition to kNs for
Speaker 2: somebody else that don't get listened because they had women.
Speaker 3: We see Alison make her way back to is it
Speaker 3: Kingslander that.
Speaker 2: They went back to lou Is that where they at,
Speaker 2: and while she thought she would come back without being
Speaker 2: discovered and ship, we see that aiming that actually summoned
Speaker 2: her ass to the throne and st.
Speaker 7: Buddy watching Buddy's her walk in, he was like, man,
Speaker 7: where you been at? And we've been looking for you
Speaker 7: like three days?
Speaker 2: This Louie, what did you think about how Allison reacted
Speaker 2: to the news that Aimon gave her.
Speaker 7: All of this was great aiming just sitting on the throne, like, man,
Speaker 7: where you've been here? We've been looking for you, like
Speaker 7: you ain't been around here, Like how you just disappeared
Speaker 7: for three days and with just straight face and how
Speaker 7: terrified she looked as to already like she ain't been
Speaker 7: back ten minutes and your plan already is gone to shit.
Speaker 7: Everything that you said it's in total turmoil. He's sitting
Speaker 7: here questioning you, and you got to come up with
Speaker 7: some loud of your ass. I think she acted it
Speaker 7: great with her facial expressions. I think aiming act is
Speaker 7: great with his facial expressions in his tone.
Speaker 3: It's really good scene.
Speaker 5: This whole world is going to ship because of disobedient children.
Speaker 3: This is all the parents.
Speaker 1: Facts.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 3: I know they may be upset with me about to
Speaker 3: say this because.
Speaker 1: I feel like.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's just a coincidence that I want
Speaker 2: to say it's the coinns that they are women. But
Speaker 2: I just truly think these characters make horrible plans. That's
Speaker 2: why I feel like Noah really listens to them. Because
Speaker 2: if your plan can get fucked up in ten minutes,
Speaker 2: like you just your foot just touched soil, riding the
Speaker 2: plan already fucked up, like you didn't have to wear
Speaker 2: a thought to know the personality traits of your sons
Speaker 2: to the point, she only reconciled that shit until afterwards,
Speaker 2: like when she had the conversation with them. I'm just saying,
Speaker 2: like hen, it's like, I just feel like these plans
Speaker 2: are trash. That's why the only wants to listen, they
Speaker 2: just happened.
Speaker 4: He would have ran, the king, would have would have
Speaker 4: fled the castle. Nigga been laid up. He can't even walk.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm with the rights, But to Nick point that,
Speaker 7: like you ain't took time to go talk to him
Speaker 7: before you leave and nothing like you ain't took no evaluations.
Speaker 3: To talk what she gonna say to them?
Speaker 1: At least when.
Speaker 7: At this point she could at least when him Darren
Speaker 7: like she she ain't even seen him.
Speaker 5: She was sitting with him while he was like the
Speaker 5: first for like days that happened.
Speaker 4: She's been seeing him.
Speaker 7: But he's gotten better. She ain't seen him. He's got
Speaker 7: good enough to leave, That's what I'm saying. So I
Speaker 7: guess my whole point in that is she let Lawrence
Speaker 7: get in his ear. She's supposed to be able to
Speaker 7: have his ear. If she's gonna go make that plan,
Speaker 7: she need to be able to understand that he might
Speaker 7: leave or he might not.
Speaker 3: She ain't been there talking to him, telling him like
Speaker 3: you need.
Speaker 4: To be here.
Speaker 2: You the king a fair And I kind of wonder
Speaker 2: because she's a woman, y'all being real unfair is a.
Speaker 3: Moment like she ain't go see her son.
Speaker 2: How much she got don get snatched up by the
Speaker 2: by the footless dude.
Speaker 3: Dragon, bro, you gotta go war.
Speaker 5: Ain't nobody got time to be sitting at his bedside.
Speaker 3: Watch what she doing?
Speaker 5: Burning people ain't eating, They throwing fish at her ass,
Speaker 5: walking the shirts.
Speaker 2: She got, you gotta him. She used to doing best
Speaker 2: ship from her last husband.
Speaker 3: She got for years.
Speaker 5: And these kids have read them up. That's why she
Speaker 5: got to throw up her kids now.
Speaker 2: But this is why I'm only focusing on the plans,
Speaker 2: not the actual gender.
Speaker 4: But to me, it's just like.
Speaker 2: As for Alison, though, we're seeing how her lack of
Speaker 2: interpersonal relationships with her all her children.
Speaker 3: Especially Aiming.
Speaker 2: Aim has been denying a motherly figure for a long
Speaker 2: time and she's just now seeing, yeah, that's the one
Speaker 2: I want that.
Speaker 3: And she's seeing it because she's Because that's what I'm saying, like.
Speaker 2: If you were closer with your kids, you would know
Speaker 2: like this, Like like lu said, you have to strategize
Speaker 2: this a lot better for you to guarantee that to
Speaker 2: someone to the enemy.
Speaker 5: She correct, She does know her children. That's why the
Speaker 5: plan was good, because she knew with her, with her,
Speaker 5: with her burnt up baby on the throne. She can
Speaker 5: this would work. The problem is the rolls got switched.
Speaker 5: If ship would have stayed the way it was, this
Speaker 5: plan would have been wonderful and we wouldn't even be
Speaker 5: having the fire season.
Speaker 2: And we got We're talking a lot of ifs, you know,
Speaker 2: we got we gotta start drinking when we're talking if.
Speaker 2: But like other people had great plans and their plans
Speaker 2: worked out well, everybody's plan got fucked up. Nobody's playing
Speaker 2: in this episode went well, But y'all focus and read hard.
Speaker 2: There was was this is when we met Alison out trash.
Speaker 2: We're gonna get some woman who had a really good
Speaker 2: plan and worked. She just it just didn't work in
Speaker 2: her favor, you know what I'm saying. But I'm saying,
Speaker 2: if you're playing, get fucked up at ten minutes.
Speaker 8: It only got fucked up because she didn't know that
Speaker 8: Lawrence was gonna sneak buddy out. Because like I remember
Speaker 8: people being real hard on the fact that she was like, yeah,
Speaker 8: i'll let you behead my son.
Speaker 3: But when I really thought about it, he was half dead.
Speaker 2: Anyway, He's gonna end up like his daddy.
Speaker 3: Anybody right now, it's mercy if anything. But no, I
Speaker 3: kind of disagree with y'all. I don't.
Speaker 8: I don't think her plan was bad. I think her plan,
Speaker 8: her plan made the most sense.
Speaker 7: I don't think her plan was bad. I think she's
Speaker 7: a bad mother, well everybody's mother in this show, But
Speaker 7: that made her plan bad because if she had went
Speaker 7: and talked to him, a good mother, and her plan
Speaker 7: would have been better.
Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying. I don't see how the was
Speaker 3: for her for Larry's sneaking him out. I don't see
Speaker 3: how y'all are blaming her for that.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not that I'm going back to knowing that
Speaker 2: her son may be capable of like trying to usurp
Speaker 2: the throne, because like to me, it's like it's more
Speaker 2: about not just her son being burnt, but like how
Speaker 2: did that happen?
Speaker 3: Like the fact that her son was that.
Speaker 2: Evil to even you know, you know she's you know
Speaker 2: how they always say, Roy, you know your kids?
Speaker 4: Right, She was trying to get ship over with.
Speaker 5: That's exactly why sheington like, look, bitch, just come come
Speaker 5: take the throw and kill him. That's fine because you
Speaker 5: get this nigga too much time. The whole thing gonna
Speaker 5: go to ship.
Speaker 3: Just come here, and.
Speaker 5: Everybody can stop dying. We can stop killing these kids
Speaker 5: because my one eyed son is on light. This whole
Speaker 5: city on fire.
Speaker 1: Mhm.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's stay within this conversation because there's a lot
Speaker 2: to talk about. But we see that Allison and Aiming
Speaker 2: have a different like she now is like adjusting her strategy.
Speaker 2: She's not once aiming to go to Aaron Hall to
Speaker 2: go face off with Damon.
Speaker 3: But that conversation also going a little different ride. What
Speaker 3: did you think about how that do with between them two.
Speaker 4: With the kids? Oh my god, that was man, that
Speaker 4: was so uncomfortable.
Speaker 6: That was deep issues, man, for real, Like, yeah, that
Speaker 6: was a really uncomf but they executed it really well.
Speaker 4: Like her face, like you said, her face expressions goodness. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that was a shot.
Speaker 3: You it was.
Speaker 6: It was even even though he has those issues, it
Speaker 6: still was a shock. I was not expecting that, and
Speaker 6: she wasn't even.
Speaker 3: Mike, you you were shot. Yes.
Speaker 8: When Ken was saying earlier that he was talking to
Speaker 8: the screen, this is the first thing that came to mind,
Speaker 8: I literally said, what the fuck?
Speaker 3: I asked my girl if I woke her up? But
Speaker 3: I was like, what.
Speaker 4: The are you serious?
Speaker 8: And then I started immediately thinking like, bro, what is
Speaker 8: this show doing right now? Because yeah, her facial expression
Speaker 8: said a lot, but.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I know she's just trying to get everything over stop
Speaker 2: it Ken. I'm not saying she liked it. I get
Speaker 2: why she didn't like Recoil, But at the same time,
Speaker 2: I'm like, you could have closed your.
Speaker 3: Mouth because I heard I heard some.
Speaker 1: A little y'all.
Speaker 7: I heard she's scared of this.
Speaker 3: People that ain't see this and just listen to what
Speaker 3: you're doing be like what.
Speaker 4: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But no, this scene was crazy episode. This scene got
Speaker 3: me the most. I was like, Bro, this is this
Speaker 3: is this is a lot.
Speaker 2: Even exactly, Yeah, because we've seen this. Yeah, incest like
Speaker 2: brother sister, we never seen We've seen you seen nephew,
Speaker 2: we have not seen it's we're there's uncle.
Speaker 3: No, I know mother, this is different.
Speaker 7: Well, Damon dreamed it in the season two dreaming the
Speaker 7: same as doing it fight. You probably have dream a
Speaker 7: whole lot of whiles.
Speaker 4: YEA mother son is crazy.
Speaker 7: Mother mother son is crazy, But I mean he's crazy though,
Speaker 7: he a crazy person. I think I think I don't
Speaker 7: even think that this was a sexual thing for him.
Speaker 7: I think that this is just showing her that he
Speaker 7: appreciates what she just did and he has no other way,
Speaker 7: Like he don't know. He's so broken, like we've seen him,
Speaker 7: you said earlier, Like we see him cuddling with the prostitutes.
Speaker 7: He's so broken that he think that that's the only
Speaker 7: way for him to communicate that. Oh, in this moment,
Speaker 7: you made me. Yeah, this is love. I want you
Speaker 7: to understand that I love you. And it did come
Speaker 7: off weird as hell though, because I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 7: I was like hearing and Mike, I was talking to
Speaker 7: the screen even though I said all that. When it happened,
Speaker 7: I was like, what the fuck, what's going on? But yeah,
Speaker 7: I do think it was just him being like challenged
Speaker 7: to show how he loves me. He could have appreciate that.
Speaker 3: At the worst, a kiss on the forehead, like at
Speaker 3: the worst.
Speaker 4: Slow they get it, so.
Speaker 5: Do what they finna do.
Speaker 4: I was going on. It was so like nastily romantic kill.
Speaker 3: Ken to that point.
Speaker 2: Do you think he did it out of like that's
Speaker 2: how he used his mom in a sexual way or
Speaker 2: was that more of a power move to show you
Speaker 2: that like I'm the king now and I can you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know because, like to Louis point, it was
Speaker 2: a little too off, Like I don't know if it
Speaker 2: was obviously it's it's a sexual act, but it's like
Speaker 2: the way he was looking at it, it was just
Speaker 2: kind of like a power dominance.
Speaker 3: Move, like like I control everything in this that's going on,
Speaker 3: even you.
Speaker 1: Well, I think it started off off like sexual or
Speaker 1: the appearance of a sexual act, the way everything was
Speaker 1: slow and he started moving in and I was like,
Speaker 1: no fucking way. But afterwards when it was done, there
Speaker 1: wasn't any it wasn't lingering. So then I was thinking, like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, in the Sopranos, they do that shit all
Speaker 1: the fucking time. They're just not on the fucking mouth,
Speaker 1: but they always do a kiss as a form of
Speaker 1: some sort of respression. So when he when he kind
Speaker 1: of uh you know, after it was over, I was like, well,
Speaker 1: did he just get that wrong, like in terms of
Speaker 1: how to do that. So I was thinking that maybe
Speaker 1: it was on some ship like that, because it didn't
Speaker 1: seem to kind of harror over there. But she was
Speaker 1: she was terrified, Yes, she was.
Speaker 3: We didn't see that because of all the change.
Speaker 2: She convinces aiming to go to Aaron Hall, but also
Speaker 2: sends a letter to uh, Lou, I'm getting this right,
Speaker 2: Ormond Tower. Is that her son, Yeah, armand Tower to
Speaker 2: delay the army from progressing to whatever, Luke, can you
Speaker 2: tell me what the hell that that was about?
Speaker 7: So she was still trying to get her plan correct
Speaker 7: in the sense of if that army came, and she
Speaker 7: would also have lied to ranier and said that the
Speaker 7: army wasn't gonna be there. She expected to be going
Speaker 7: somewhere else. So she faked her son's name and like
Speaker 7: she faked that letter like it was from the king,
Speaker 7: but it was actually from her dudes, her cousins, so
Speaker 7: she know him. They both hot towers, and she sent
Speaker 7: that to him to try to get his army to
Speaker 7: go another way so Raniero would have an easier time
Speaker 7: taking over the Red Keet and a.
Speaker 1: Little crazy as damn daughter almost fucked everything king.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but you got to remember she knows, like so
Speaker 7: she's saying that because she like the king, like he'll
Speaker 7: be back, like he brayed for them. But she's seen
Speaker 7: all this shit, like, well, I mean, that's all Mama King.
Speaker 7: She's trying to god right, trying to make sure she
Speaker 7: get wrong.
Speaker 3: She got facts.
Speaker 5: But yeah, so.
Speaker 7: And the dude was kind of suspicious of the letter.
Speaker 7: They showed it by his face or whatever it may be. So,
Speaker 7: because what the thing is, they said they grew up together,
Speaker 7: so they cousins. They know he's familiar with her handwriting,
Speaker 7: so he might know it from her. And she wrote
Speaker 7: that because he did look a little weird when he
Speaker 7: was Yeah, he looked a little weird when he came. Yep,
Speaker 7: I thought it was a little crazy girl. That's what
Speaker 7: I thought he was.
Speaker 1: What she was saying, he was kind of familiar with
Speaker 1: the king and her handwriting.
Speaker 10: M Yeah, I just want to touch on that because
Speaker 10: that's not too much, and so we can move on
Speaker 10: to something else, because we didn't go see Damon defeat
Speaker 10: Jason Landis to his forces and gain a new ally
Speaker 10: the Winter Wolves led by Roger Dustin.
Speaker 3: Mike was not the only one thinking that he took
Speaker 3: out Thailand's off screen or some ship.
Speaker 2: I thought they looked exactly alike, that the head that
Speaker 2: it was when after Damon and them like went through
Speaker 2: that army that they were already kind of defeating already
Speaker 2: that new army that just rolled that chopped off head.
Speaker 3: I thought that was Thailand Laniston.
Speaker 1: I didn't know.
Speaker 3: I didn't remember them. I don't know, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I don't remember it was twins. I thought it was
Speaker 3: Thailand though. I thought that he was a twin.
Speaker 8: I thought those two were twins because because I mean,
Speaker 8: it looks like it's the same actor.
Speaker 3: So I'm pretty sure they're twins. Okay, Okay, so he
Speaker 3: kills his other twins. Okay. I didn't know what the
Speaker 3: fun that was to the episode ended.
Speaker 7: I was like, is this I still don't know what
Speaker 7: the people that came out of the woods with Starks
Speaker 7: like when he went and had that meeting last season,
Speaker 7: he said, I'm gonna see you the gray beards, those
Speaker 7: would start men.
Speaker 3: They came out of the woods with Atlantis ahead.
Speaker 1: They're a lion on the ground.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was the Atlantis taking lions the war. Yeah,
Speaker 7: they take lines the war, just like the Starts take
Speaker 7: gray Wolves to war. Little No, I didn't they killed it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was this was a cool scene.
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, I didn't really care that much,
Speaker 8: so I'm kind of glad they just kind of skipped
Speaker 8: over it. I don't think I really needed to see
Speaker 8: all of them sword fighting and ship.
Speaker 7: But it was cool.
Speaker 6: I like seeing Damien Damien again though, score fighting and
Speaker 6: just kind of being in power because I don't feel
Speaker 6: like we got a lot of that last season.
Speaker 1: We did we didn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's running around the fucking castle, tripping.
Speaker 1: Out around right right, tripping off mushrooms right.
Speaker 4: They played him last season.
Speaker 2: We then jump to another scene and see uh the
Speaker 2: hand Christian Cole doing some finger paint as he's been
Speaker 2: for by g Wayne that his men are raping and
Speaker 2: pillaging the local women in the village and he should
Speaker 2: do something about it. Ken, what did you think of
Speaker 2: Christian Cole? Like, what do you think his purpose will
Speaker 2: be this season? Because I feel like he's checked out.
Speaker 1: Well, he's sitting a drawing for whatever reason, so I
Speaker 1: guess he's just killing time. But I'm not sure exactly
Speaker 1: because isn't he upset because he lost Allison? Then something
Speaker 1: happened with him last year, like so he got of
Speaker 1: has our broken heart and I think I could have
Speaker 1: some impact on it, but it remains to be seen
Speaker 1: because they only gave him a small, like brief window
Speaker 1: just to kind of remind us that he's still there.
Speaker 1: So so we'll we'll see what he does. But I'm
Speaker 1: not really yeah, yeah, we'll see what he does, because
Speaker 1: he really damn sure didn't care what his sold, you,
Speaker 1: what his army was doing at all. He just told
Speaker 1: the other guy to handle it like that guy's gonna listen,
Speaker 1: like they'll listening to So.
Speaker 4: His spirit is broken. Him and Allison are kind of
Speaker 4: he's still in love with Alison.
Speaker 5: I don't necessarily think they're completely broken at all, but
Speaker 5: he and his feelings because he's gone so far from
Speaker 5: an oath and then he knows that one Eyed Son
Speaker 5: tried to kill the king and that he helped him
Speaker 5: do that. So he's just he's just very despondent and
Speaker 5: just like he don't even know who the he is anymore.
Speaker 4: Like one of his worst story arts horrible. Yeah.
Speaker 7: I think he was one of the more standout characters
Speaker 7: on his show when we first started watching this, Like
Speaker 7: if you even if you hated him or loved him
Speaker 7: or whatever it may be, like he was one of
Speaker 7: those people. It's like he was impactful in the parts
Speaker 7: of the story that he was in and now it's
Speaker 7: just like what y'all are saying. It's like, look, he's done,
Speaker 7: he's dead, Like he ain't even exciting seeing him on
Speaker 7: seen no more. So I wondered, is there going to
Speaker 7: be some type of thing that happens what we do? Yeah,
Speaker 7: like like something like to get him giving his groove
Speaker 7: back because he did right now, Yeah, because he might.
Speaker 4: Like the opinion of a night, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: Like he was a fenemy and it was really cool
Speaker 4: to see, but.
Speaker 7: Yes, weg and shit like everything that you would think of,
Speaker 7: he had it and now it's just like them speaking
Speaker 7: of that, Mike, do you think that g Wayne is
Speaker 7: gonna challenge him for leadership just because he's.
Speaker 2: Seeing how far off he is and he's like, Nigga
Speaker 2: that needs to be ordered here and if you're not
Speaker 2: gonna give it, I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 8: Is g Wayne the guy that came in the tent
Speaker 8: and was talking to him and he was just being
Speaker 8: real dismissive. I honestly, I'm not even gonna lie to you, Nikki.
Speaker 8: I want to ask somebody else because I don't remember because.
Speaker 3: He's Alice's brother, any brother.
Speaker 8: I just don't remember how gangster or anything that he
Speaker 8: was from the last He hasn't done anything yet.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like, you do you.
Speaker 7: Got the back, and oh he had the back, and
Speaker 7: to get him about it, then you could go to
Speaker 7: his family and be like, man, he boyshitty, Like yes.
Speaker 8: Then I'm with you, yes, because I don't give two
Speaker 8: ships about Christian Cole at all. I don't care they
Speaker 8: bought it. They brought him up for like ten seconds
Speaker 8: on this episode, and I was like, Oh, that guy
Speaker 8: who gives a fuck fuck him. So nah, I could
Speaker 8: definitely see the other guy challenging him and you know,
Speaker 8: getting the approval to take him out of his spot
Speaker 8: because he wasn't doing anything.
Speaker 3: He was what was he like, writing a letter or
Speaker 3: writing a poem or something, was writing this bob ros.
Speaker 3: He was getting his bob ross. He was drawn a pick. Sure,
Speaker 3: yeah here it was a pretty little bird.
Speaker 4: The bird.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, get him out of here. I think I
Speaker 2: think I think g Wade is gonna definitely fight him.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're gonna win, but I think
Speaker 2: he's gonna. I think he's gonna challenge it for like,
Speaker 2: because like the way he just being loosey goosey with
Speaker 2: the ship. He ain't gonna sit right with him.
Speaker 4: And he knows about Christian and his sister too.
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, yeah, he knows no evidence, but he
Speaker 3: knows something going on.
Speaker 5: Like yeah, I think Christian is pretty much admitted to it.
Speaker 4: To him, that's something he like.
Speaker 3: He gone out of the Okay, that.
Speaker 2: Ken, we didn't go to another seed the gathering of
Speaker 2: the Bastards where we see Adam, Hugh and Hula whatever
Speaker 2: his name is, wait to ambush, aiming at heir and hall.
Speaker 3: But the but the other I forgot the other one.
Speaker 3: He wanted to leave. You wanted to dip up out
Speaker 3: of there.
Speaker 2: K What did you think about? Nonetheless, what do you
Speaker 2: think about the gathering of the bastards?
Speaker 1: Gathering of the Bastards?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 7: I don't remember the scene, what they were sing what
Speaker 7: Black was talking about, I don't get no castle. Was like,
Speaker 7: I don't get no castle, I don't get.
Speaker 3: No What do you get you a night? He said,
Speaker 3: you get a horse, a horse?
Speaker 1: I got a dragon. But I don't remember any of this.
Speaker 3: What Oh, this is good. This is good because you
Speaker 3: remember that.
Speaker 7: To get going over all the stuff that like they
Speaker 7: committed to since they could ride the dragons. And Buddy
Speaker 7: was like, yeah, I'm gonna be able to give me
Speaker 7: a castle. Man and all of them looked at him
Speaker 7: and start laughing. It was like a castle. It's like
Speaker 7: you got to be noble to get a castle.
Speaker 4: He was like.
Speaker 7: He was like, yeah, you get a horse for being
Speaker 7: a knight. He was like, I'm gonna do it a night.
Speaker 7: I got a dragon, hey, little what was funny? It
Speaker 7: was like the other dude trying to help him out.
Speaker 7: He was like, you can get a lot of women
Speaker 7: with a dragon. He said, I can want meetings with
Speaker 7: a cast.
Speaker 3: This part he was so he was like, bro, I'm out.
Speaker 3: Like what he heard that, he was gone. He left
Speaker 3: when he saw that damn sosquatch things that was walking.
Speaker 3: Then the green dude came out. He was like, oh hey, like.
Speaker 1: He was.
Speaker 3: He was trying to take a ship. Something showed up.
Speaker 2: I lean too, and but Mike real talking. He did
Speaker 2: have a really good monologue about like his life and
Speaker 2: like what he always believed because he hurt, like he
Speaker 2: heard it from a young age like you have king's blood.
Speaker 2: Now granted he heard it from a molester, but he
Speaker 2: all always felt that he had a bigger purpose, and
Speaker 2: then now he seems like he has a dragon. He's
Speaker 2: probably like you could tell, like he was really like
Speaker 2: my life is like it's worth something, because he was
Speaker 2: like I thought about killing myself, or like I thought
Speaker 2: about dying more days than living, and now I have
Speaker 2: some to live for. I got a dragon, Like I
Speaker 2: thought that was a really interesting monologue to talk about,
Speaker 2: like the.
Speaker 3: The life of a bastard. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: I guess I don't remember. I believe you one hundred percent,
Speaker 8: but I guess I don't remember that he was talking
Speaker 8: to a molester. I don't remember much about his story. Again,
Speaker 8: I'm going to go back and rewatch between he told.
Speaker 7: Himself to a red priest and a red priest with
Speaker 7: molested and tell him that he had kingsblood, and he
Speaker 7: told that story.
Speaker 3: I don't so, Sir Diddy, that's how he started. Yeah, Im,
Speaker 3: he got funny shit he started with.
Speaker 4: That's that's how the scene started.
Speaker 3: Oh in this episode? Yes, okay, I didn't.
Speaker 8: I didn't catch that. They must have been talking in
Speaker 8: that weird that weird did you talking about?
Speaker 3: They were talking?
Speaker 7: It was random. It's just like paying to them where
Speaker 7: they all were sitting there and he was just talking
Speaker 7: about all of them would give me that different experiences
Speaker 7: of you know, having King's blood, in being able to
Speaker 7: ride the dragons. He was just talking about how red police,
Speaker 7: a red priest essentially manipulated him and he sold himself
Speaker 7: to him, told him he had King's blood, and all
Speaker 7: these things got you.
Speaker 8: I guess that would explain why he acts the way
Speaker 8: he acts. Very insecure. He's not really very noble. But
Speaker 8: if he's been abused and he was telling, you know,
Speaker 8: he was getting this information from his abuser, then I
Speaker 8: guess I would I would kind of get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they you could tell he brought the room down
Speaker 2: because they was all looking at like, we just asked, Yeah,
Speaker 2: where'd you grow up?
Speaker 3: We just put some burgers on the grind. You're talking
Speaker 3: all this shit. But the witch shot.
Speaker 1: About of nowhere. I'm a witch.
Speaker 3: I don't know what, I don't know what y'all got
Speaker 3: going on, but just so you know, I'm a witch.
Speaker 3: Igret kid, I love how you looked at her. He
Speaker 3: was like, all right, man, I'm out. They're confirmed it
Speaker 3: for buddy.
Speaker 7: He was like, that's all I needed I just seen
Speaker 7: that green Man too. I'm out was that her or
Speaker 7: was that something else that was something that was put there? Yeah,
Speaker 7: that was her people. They there to protect the trees,
Speaker 7: the wildwood trees.
Speaker 3: Reading his book, he was like, you know about.
Speaker 7: Actually it's my version of Star Wars, Mike. You see
Speaker 7: they stole something from Star Wars on it was influenced
Speaker 7: by one of those scenes was influenced by Star Wars.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 7: Later on one of the boat scenes. I didn't know
Speaker 7: because I'm not familiar with Star Wars, but dude said
Speaker 7: it in the.
Speaker 11: Breakdown, wait, the crashing, the of the trying to get
Speaker 11: the ship thing through, that's only how he got that's
Speaker 11: a reach.
Speaker 7: Well that's what I just seen it. And you know,
Speaker 7: I don't know much about Star Wars. I can't think
Speaker 7: of the name of what talking about.
Speaker 8: When the when Lord Duran's character did hyper space through
Speaker 8: the ship right.
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, they said that it was influenced. They said
Speaker 7: it was influenced by that what Nerd said this, it's
Speaker 7: on emergency also when you watch.
Speaker 3: You know, let me stop.
Speaker 7: That's the people that made the show. People have made
Speaker 7: the show said this. The people that made the show
Speaker 7: said this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, I'm gonna be quiet.
Speaker 4: I'm tired.
Speaker 3: I'm tired of being alloud and wrong, y'all. I'm shut
Speaker 3: by us up.
Speaker 2: We then we then head to the sea where Lord
Speaker 2: Core that's what it was that starting this same thing.
Speaker 4: If you that's crazy.
Speaker 7: Look that was that was for Ken, damn it.
Speaker 3: I like Star Trek, but no, that's not the fucking
Speaker 3: same thing.
Speaker 2: We then had to the sea as Lord Chorus is
Speaker 2: trying to sneak his way back into his son's heart
Speaker 2: over some moonshine and some late ass confessionals about how
Speaker 2: much he sucked.
Speaker 1: With his mama.
Speaker 2: Uh nay, what did you think about Alan and korus
Speaker 2: relationship this episode?
Speaker 5: I thought it was commendable and he at least gave
Speaker 5: him an apology.
Speaker 4: But this Nigga's about forty at this point, Like what,
Speaker 4: it's too late.
Speaker 5: Sometimes it is to sit down and say, hell, let's
Speaker 5: have a drink and let me apologize for abandoning you
Speaker 5: as a baby.
Speaker 4: Like nigga, I'm very grown.
Speaker 2: He said.
Speaker 3: He tried to take care of him, then he said
Speaker 3: I can't.
Speaker 1: He was straight. That's what they say too, that.
Speaker 3: He made sure he was straight though, Hey, r he
Speaker 3: had with that one. He said, what about that last day?
Speaker 3: You think this moon shine and solve that?
Speaker 5: But and then how much of this is because his
Speaker 5: wife is now dead? Because least was still here, he
Speaker 5: wouldn't be saying none of that.
Speaker 3: Hey r. He was trying to ask about his mama.
Speaker 3: He said, I did with her.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: She she been doing doing.
Speaker 2: You see, I got real upset when he brought his mother.
Speaker 2: He was his mom was like, and if he wasn't
Speaker 2: the king or the.
Speaker 1: Sure talk about she's still over there on street.
Speaker 3: Right boy, let me tell you about your mama used
Speaker 3: to do me. But ask your mama why they call me?
Speaker 3: I don't know both a water.
Speaker 2: Mike, what you say about relationship? This episode, I liked
Speaker 2: it because I like what's the what's his son's name?
Speaker 2: The ball headed boyd?
Speaker 1: I like him.
Speaker 3: I like him, And I don't know who the actor is.
Speaker 3: I meant to look him up, but he's doing a
Speaker 3: really good job.
Speaker 1: So I like this scene.
Speaker 8: I like I like what Corlis is trying to do,
Speaker 8: and I like the fact that I don't really all
Speaker 8: the way know if I get his intentions. I don't
Speaker 8: know if he's doing this because he genuinely feels bad
Speaker 8: or if he's doing this because he's.
Speaker 1: Like I need you at this point.
Speaker 3: So I don't know, I'm really I just really enjoyed
Speaker 3: their dynamics so far.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's a little bit of both.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm with you, Mike.
Speaker 4: I like what he I like what he's doing with
Speaker 4: this character because he's like this.
Speaker 6: Big, strong guy, but you can still see he like
Speaker 6: a little boy in him, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: Like that didn't never have his father, like, so I
Speaker 6: think they're doing a really good job with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. Yeah, I agree with Rod and Mike.
Speaker 7: Is the way that they're playing this is viewers just
Speaker 7: really entertaining to watch because you can't really just be
Speaker 7: mad at Corliss because you like, you know, what he's
Speaker 7: trying to do. However, the character is playing it really well,
Speaker 7: the actors playing it really well. Where there is some
Speaker 7: sincerity there, it's like he do kind of funck with
Speaker 7: he's trying to make amends. So yeah, I really like this.
Speaker 7: I agree with everything you guys said, Ken, what about you?
Speaker 1: I think it was just enough to make the ending
Speaker 1: of this right along. The ending of this makes sense.
Speaker 1: You know because he he it was just enough for
Speaker 1: him to it felt like it was enough for him
Speaker 1: to want more of that from him, which you know
Speaker 1: motivated him to stick up for him later on, because yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was just even though he was he was kind
Speaker 1: of because there's always just sort of like, you haven't
Speaker 1: been there, and now you want to be here. Now
Speaker 1: you want to come around and talk to me when
Speaker 1: I needed you. He had the whole conversation in the
Speaker 1: other season. You know, I've been in that situation where
Speaker 1: you know your dad when you damn there teenage, now
Speaker 1: you want to bring his ass around and have these
Speaker 1: sort of conversations.
Speaker 4: Like bro, like.
Speaker 1: I kind of maybe needed you a little bit earlier,
Speaker 1: but nevertheless you still want to like you still want
Speaker 1: to know where you come from, still want to look
Speaker 1: for that bond. And it was a small moment and
Speaker 1: I look, even though the liquor was nasty and he
Speaker 1: didn't like it, but it was enough for him and
Speaker 1: and it definitely was enough to create enough of a
Speaker 1: connection for him or what he did.
Speaker 3: Damn cancer, You're saying, all we need is hennessy. We
Speaker 3: can repair a lot of a lot of relationships.
Speaker 4: That's all the dragon waters. Dragon water.
Speaker 3: That's something that I again found in Virginia a few
Speaker 3: years ago. But my thing wasn't it did feel like,
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: We'll get to it, but I feel like it did
Speaker 2: for a little rushed as far as like because like
Speaker 2: a few episodes ago, he was just talking to his
Speaker 2: little brother talking about soon when his little brother was
Speaker 2: hype that he's working with you know, Sea Snake and
Speaker 2: all that stuff, like ye are you close to Pops?
Speaker 2: Like Nigga fucked that Nigga like he should have been
Speaker 2: had us around. He should have been like brought us up.
Speaker 2: Now that awards going on and it's all hands on deck,
Speaker 2: that's when he needs US's.
Speaker 3: It just it does feel like he's being used.
Speaker 2: So I want to believe that Course is reaching out
Speaker 2: out of kindness, but it's super convenient for me it is.
Speaker 1: But also I'm gonna shoot him a little bit of
Speaker 1: bell because like, unless they said it, I'm gonna believe
Speaker 1: that they've had more conversations like this. We just ain't
Speaker 1: seen it. That they've been out to see for a
Speaker 1: while and you know that they've been bonding. And I think,
Speaker 1: as what said earlier, he done lost his wife so
Speaker 1: all he got left.
Speaker 4: And two kids.
Speaker 5: He lost the one that that he says his dead,
Speaker 5: just with his lover, and then he lost his dough
Speaker 5: and got burnt up, so he lost.
Speaker 4: He'd have lost a lot, so I can understand.
Speaker 5: Him like looking on and be like, damn, and I
Speaker 5: got these two kids that I did that I wasn't
Speaker 5: even there for, so I can't see it being somewhat
Speaker 5: like having some sincerity to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's redundancy that he got back.
Speaker 4: Ups he replaced too. He lost two games.
Speaker 2: Well, let's let's stay in this area, because right after
Speaker 2: we learned, we go over to Thailand Lanister and his
Speaker 2: uh relationship with what's the name with lady's.
Speaker 5: Name Laura.
Speaker 3: Yea fake Asnina Warrior Princess.
Speaker 2: We see that their relationship or them being together trying
Speaker 2: to draw out the Valerian fleet and confuse it so
Speaker 2: they can go about their plan, which was a strategy
Speaker 2: made by Laura. What did y'all think about how that
Speaker 2: strategy played out? I'll start with Ulu, h.
Speaker 1: I ain't like this lady.
Speaker 3: I ain't like her playing, I ain't like her strategy.
Speaker 1: I didn't need none of this.
Speaker 7: They just wanted an adversary to the Cordless, and I didn't.
Speaker 7: She was just doing too much. He didn't fit naturally
Speaker 7: into the world, like she was just seemed extra. So
Speaker 7: like when they brought your boy on the Game of Thrones,
Speaker 7: it was the great Joyce brother who was acting all
Speaker 7: crazy and shit that wanted to get with her. She
Speaker 7: like she reminded me of him, and I just didn't work.
Speaker 7: So I didn't like her. Ain't even the plan, like, yeah,
Speaker 7: she was good at what she did that she was
Speaker 7: cut through. You'll agree with you that king. Even the
Speaker 7: plan didn't make sense because like she was doing all
Speaker 7: that just for revenge, even though she got hired to
Speaker 7: do something like yeah, fuck her Ken, Like I don't
Speaker 7: care about her revenge, Like she just didn't twenty years Bike. Look,
Speaker 7: they dropped her in here for me to care about her,
Speaker 7: and I just didn't. I just knew that Corlis was
Speaker 7: gonna beat her. Whatever plan she had, I ain't know, Bro,
Speaker 7: I was worried about it. I was worried when she
Speaker 7: got to the little little ship thing. But after that one,
Speaker 7: this dude got her in the water. It was over
Speaker 7: with Mike.
Speaker 3: What was your thoughts on Laura and her plan. I figure,
Speaker 3: how y'all talking.
Speaker 2: Some of the woman with no lips? Yeah, with with
Speaker 2: with the with the blood with I remember her name.
Speaker 2: I don't think it was Laura l Yeah, she was
Speaker 2: that forgettable Mike. Yeah, they was you're the lady commanded
Speaker 2: the boats bitch fist. Yeah, yeah, I like her.
Speaker 1: She was raw.
Speaker 3: That's what chorus called her name. That's what I did,
Speaker 3: make that up, that name. I was like, you know
Speaker 3: what podcast was all. I think it's changed.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I liked her. I thought she was cool.
Speaker 8: I do agree with Spike. Yes, they dropped her in
Speaker 8: there to be an adversary to Corlis, But I'm also
Speaker 8: with Ken. I didn't know that she wasn't gonna kill
Speaker 8: his ass.
Speaker 2: Now, when he showed up with that fucking that corn
Speaker 2: row helmet on, I was like, Oh no, ain't nobody
Speaker 2: killing this motherfucker.
Speaker 3: Bro, man, I take back everything, bad everything. He is
Speaker 3: no longer in the grown. That motherfucker's name is.
Speaker 7: This dude.
Speaker 2: I've never seen a helmet. He had them mold a
Speaker 2: special helmet with corn rolls on it. And he's not
Speaker 2: dying in battle.
Speaker 1: That man. Yeah, right for me.
Speaker 2: The one of the two main nigga. Parts of this
Speaker 2: episode for me was when this nigga was trying.
Speaker 3: To drive the boat through the thing. He was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: he a snake, you know how to drive. He had
Speaker 3: the white man knew it.
Speaker 7: Hey, that was the blakest thing that ever happened in
Speaker 7: this whole series of shows.
Speaker 3: Bro, he get out of the way the wheel, Bro,
Speaker 3: Moll tell me.
Speaker 2: That wasn't tell me that she did hit by.
Speaker 7: That was some nigga ship right there.
Speaker 4: Bro, they got real, They got real bright.
Speaker 5: From the corn roll.
Speaker 3: Helmet like nigga nigga bend the corners. He he looked
Speaker 3: at him first.
Speaker 1: He was like, hold on, bro, I don't think you
Speaker 1: can do this.
Speaker 3: This that's most rolling that right, this song was rolling.
Speaker 3: Let my daddy dry this motherfucker. Let my daddy drive
Speaker 3: the mother fu you ain't gonna get through her. Man.
Speaker 7: That was good it he was real good, right, That
Speaker 7: was so good.
Speaker 1: That was what to expect.
Speaker 3: But then obviously.
Speaker 2: We see obviously what is this called low The Battle
Speaker 2: of the gullet is that what it's called. So we
Speaker 2: see them like, uh, go at each other on the boat,
Speaker 2: and I don't know Mike did of course fall it
Speaker 2: was just.
Speaker 1: Boat.
Speaker 3: I thought he I thought he was. I thought he
Speaker 3: stumbled off onto her boat when they crashed.
Speaker 1: And you just slipped off the boat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's two different parts.
Speaker 2: When the boat first hit, that wave came in and
Speaker 2: he got knocked down and he was sleeping for about
Speaker 2: ten minutes.
Speaker 3: But when he woke up, he started fighting. When he
Speaker 3: fell on the water, that was a different thing. That's
Speaker 3: that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 3: Actually like that, I just got him back, y'all.
Speaker 1: Drum.
Speaker 8: I don't remember how he fell in the water now
Speaker 8: that i'm thinking about it, because the boat was already
Speaker 8: That's all I was saying, like, remember the second part,
Speaker 8: because I remember he was about to kill her and
Speaker 8: then the boats crash and that's what threw him off.
Speaker 3: Now, I don't know if he did he get slapped.
Speaker 3: I know he was getting his ass.
Speaker 5: I think he got lost off the ball lost. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and it was in the midst of fighting somebody and
Speaker 5: he fell off. I don't remember him getting like sad
Speaker 5: or anything like that. Drastic because they left you with
Speaker 5: the understanding that I was like waiting for him to
Speaker 5: pop up at some point.
Speaker 4: So I don't know. You think he did No, No,
Speaker 4: that's like or something like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the previews, Yeah, that was the.
Speaker 4: Ship naturally.
Speaker 1: Already was like.
Speaker 7: He fell off when the boat the other boat hit
Speaker 7: like it rocked back and hit again and he fell off.
Speaker 7: Oh hit his little fight and from the swing, he's
Speaker 7: from the swing down on him and the boat hit
Speaker 7: again and he fell off.
Speaker 1: He needed his boat because that motherfucker bro he he was.
Speaker 3: They just rebuilt that one. They just rebuilt that got
Speaker 3: it break like that? Why you got a fucking Hondai
Speaker 3: ass boat.
Speaker 1: Got damn.
Speaker 7: He got her boat was specifically made to do that.
Speaker 7: Her boat was specifically made to do ship like that.
Speaker 1: But still if he would have been paying attention, that
Speaker 1: ship wouldn't have happened.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because like he saw his he saw his crib
Speaker 3: get burnt up.
Speaker 2: He just got out of the rocks and he was,
Speaker 2: like I thought, And then we find out that his
Speaker 2: boat is made the same company that made Pacers glass boat.
Speaker 7: He didn't think that his big his big thing was
Speaker 7: he didn't think that she was gonna be able to
Speaker 7: make it through that little narrow passage. Come get her too,
Speaker 7: that too, bruh. It's not like that boat had a
Speaker 7: motor that when it's fall it's smaller and faster than
Speaker 7: his boat.
Speaker 3: Though that's why he but still they asked like they
Speaker 3: didn't even see it coming. He just falling over and ship.
Speaker 3: This boat's been coming at you for fifteen minutes.
Speaker 7: He did say. Once they got through, once they got
Speaker 7: through the little narrow thing, he said, prepare for impact.
Speaker 3: That they all knew that ship.
Speaker 2: Hey that bign look back and was shot that she
Speaker 2: got through that ship because like all the time I
Speaker 2: thought they were showing like how much of a c
Speaker 2: navigator he was a captain when he was like, I
Speaker 2: can get through these rocks un like anybody else.
Speaker 3: When she got that ship through, like.
Speaker 4: She kill niggas to get it.
Speaker 7: Yes, she had to get rid of like half her
Speaker 7: crew to get riding.
Speaker 4: She like how much your your suit way?
Speaker 1: I like it? Yeah? Yeah, yeah she messed with the
Speaker 1: wrong black man.
Speaker 3: Yeah the sun a bro crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, grown is the second first of his name, jumped
Speaker 2: in that water said we're gonna we're gonna do this.
Speaker 1: He jump Like that.
Speaker 3: Video of them dude that were getting jumped security that listen.
Speaker 4: That was that one got damn swimming to that.
Speaker 3: That what that one that there swimming. He hey, man,
Speaker 3: he he was from. He was relentless.
Speaker 2: He did not let her get any comfort, like kind
Speaker 2: of comforting battle like he was trying to her nothing
Speaker 2: because I was scared that he was gonna die. This
Speaker 2: like she was gonna kill him and like that was
Speaker 2: part one of her revenge and ship. But that nigga,
Speaker 2: when he saw his daddy get off, like tossed off
Speaker 2: the boat, he was like, hell.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, I think she was shot. Black man would
Speaker 1: whooping on her like that. Bro.
Speaker 4: She especially in the water, she was.
Speaker 3: Can't swim, That's what she noticed, Nigga.
Speaker 7: She was.
Speaker 3: She was like, he gotta be standing on something.
Speaker 7: The same water.
Speaker 1: I mean, got he got some floaties?
Speaker 2: Old, she shot, Oh man, I all right, okay, I
Speaker 2: kicked the can long enough, Kim. We're gonna have to
Speaker 2: get to it.
Speaker 3: Quickly.
Speaker 2: After we see Raniera learn of the attack on the
Speaker 2: Valerian fleet, she jumps into action and to join the
Speaker 2: flight to fight, but Jason disagrees on this instinct and
Speaker 2: goes against the crown.
Speaker 3: Now I'm gonna start with you.
Speaker 2: Do you think that it was wrong for Jason to
Speaker 2: lock her in that room while she shows out while
Speaker 2: he goes out with.
Speaker 3: Bayla, and.
Speaker 5: He got I hate to say, he got exactly what
Speaker 5: his ass deserved. Oh, young young ass going against his mama,
Speaker 5: tell her nigga to block his mama in her room
Speaker 5: if he hadn't die.
Speaker 4: He beat his ass when he got back home. Oh,
Speaker 4: he pissed me off so bad.
Speaker 5: And and shame on that girl. She tried to tell
Speaker 5: him writing hands gonna follow his ass down there. I
Speaker 5: was so annoyed jasonass, Oh my god.
Speaker 6: Address Yeah, I got it from a stance of wanting
Speaker 6: one of his mom not not to you know, just
Speaker 6: kind of wanted to go out there himself and protect
Speaker 6: his mom like like like her hand said, like she
Speaker 6: was like, look, he just wants to protect you.
Speaker 4: And I agree with her. You know, he just he
Speaker 4: just wanted to protect her.
Speaker 5: Protect me from what, nigga, you ain't never fought nothing,
Speaker 5: I get it.
Speaker 1: But you know he wanted he.
Speaker 3: Wanted to fight for his mama.
Speaker 1: No, he didn't want to fight for his mom. He
Speaker 1: wanted to prove to himself and everybody. Yeah, had nothing
Speaker 1: to do with her.
Speaker 4: Himself.
Speaker 3: I think that was a really selfish decision.
Speaker 7: I think he was doing it for himself like Ken,
Speaker 7: and they said, there shouldn't have been no reason on
Speaker 7: the planet of Western Roads. What the fuck they was
Speaker 7: at with those guards would have been like, hey, you
Speaker 7: know what, we're gonna listen to the sixteen year old
Speaker 7: and not the queen. That's what she That's what I
Speaker 7: would have been really mad at if I was. And
Speaker 7: you're like, all of y'all got me, all of y'all
Speaker 7: got me fucked up? You the person who wouldn't beat
Speaker 7: your ass to get you out the way, the dude
Speaker 7: under him, like all of y'all, and the doctor is
Speaker 7: how y'all playing with me and scared of him killing y'all,
Speaker 7: but not scared of locking me in here.
Speaker 2: They're a male child than they would be of a
Speaker 2: grown woman. That's why I agree, you're right being a woman,
Speaker 2: absolutely right. And I think they showed it a really
Speaker 2: good job of of saying that right there, Mike.
Speaker 1: Is true.
Speaker 7: The people that didn't get it.
Speaker 3: But however, in this world is it's it's it's crazy
Speaker 3: to witness it.
Speaker 7: She's supposed to be the one with the power and
Speaker 7: then she's locked in this room and herself and to
Speaker 7: get killed.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Yep.
Speaker 2: So every everybody agrees that it was Jason's fault, like
Speaker 2: this is, it's not, it's just all the damn get
Speaker 2: some other kids first or later. My thing is this,
Speaker 2: I agree that Jason made a bad decision, and I
Speaker 2: was more shocked at like loose point to guard just.
Speaker 1: Went with it.
Speaker 2: But I will say, her going out there is like
Speaker 2: if she died out there, Let's say she switches place
Speaker 2: with Jason and she dies, then the whole war zone
Speaker 2: then you locked literally everything.
Speaker 3: It's not yes it is, it's not.
Speaker 1: No, it's not.
Speaker 5: Now we got to fight to put Jason in the
Speaker 5: throne because at the end of the day, they still
Speaker 5: not the right for heirs to that throne. So like
Speaker 5: she said, if I.
Speaker 3: Died, then you get your wishes. So you let her
Speaker 3: go out.
Speaker 5: She's got the experience, she's got the more experienced dragging,
Speaker 5: she knows what the fuck she's doing. Let her go
Speaker 5: out be a queen, and then you get these niggas
Speaker 5: in line back here.
Speaker 4: At the castled.
Speaker 3: But anybody you know the benefit of her niggas, you
Speaker 3: really think about it.
Speaker 8: If she did go out there and she was responsible
Speaker 8: for turning the war in the right way, then maybe
Speaker 8: they would.
Speaker 3: Have started listening to her, but Jace fucked everything up.
Speaker 2: I was looking at it from the risk versus rewards
Speaker 2: standpoint because I'm not necessarily disagreeing with y'all. But I'm
Speaker 2: just trying to speak to the point of why he
Speaker 2: was making that, because if they're already challenging her on
Speaker 2: the throne, you think they're gonna if she died, they're
Speaker 2: gonna be like, Okay, Jason's gonna be up next to bastards.
Speaker 3: That all they have to they just listen to him, right,
Speaker 3: that's a fact. Yeah, what you got to say, I said, I.
Speaker 4: Said, I'm not necessarily on board with them.
Speaker 6: I do agree that that. Yeah, that it shouldn't have
Speaker 6: happened that way, and they shouldn't have listened to the kid,
Speaker 6: But I more so thought that he was. He was
Speaker 6: trying to to do the do the keep her out
Speaker 6: of harm's way, is what I thought. That's how I
Speaker 6: take it, because I agree with her, with her concubine
Speaker 6: or whatever she is, Well, she was just like, yo,
Speaker 6: he just you know, he just wanted to protect you.
Speaker 3: That's what I believe her.
Speaker 7: Me, bro, yeah, stop playing with me. You can't you
Speaker 7: can't protect me my sixteen year old son. Go sit
Speaker 7: down somewhere. I got to dragon, I'm the queen. I'm
Speaker 7: the one who's done this before. Like she I just
Speaker 7: hate that she's not able to relate that in like
Speaker 7: to y'all's point about her being a woman. We see
Speaker 7: her struggle with this with Damon. She's struggling with her now,
Speaker 7: her kid, even the way that she lost the throne,
Speaker 7: like she's been struggling to be like, no, I can
Speaker 7: do this ship and everybody looking at her like.
Speaker 3: Hey, we may be able to She did.
Speaker 2: She did have a fire ass line when she was like,
Speaker 2: I know everybody sees a fragile woman, but underneath all this,
Speaker 2: I got the heart of a king or something like
Speaker 2: that was it's cold, but it don't hit us hard.
Speaker 4: Kids.
Speaker 3: Nobody nobody locked in the room. You locked the room,
Speaker 3: beating on the door.
Speaker 1: No one believes it.
Speaker 7: Nobody heard that ship with them two ladies in there
Speaker 7: and they were like, okay, yeah they didn't believe the wine.
Speaker 2: Well, obviously Jason and Baylor go out to battle and
Speaker 2: we can't. We see, we see how that shit go.
Speaker 2: What did you think about Jason Baylor? Did they handle
Speaker 2: herself well on the battlefield.
Speaker 1: H they did all right. Now, you know Loha whatever
Speaker 1: she is. I you know, when she shot vagaar Bo
Speaker 1: Match or whatever his name is, I was like, damn, bro,
Speaker 1: you got to get up out of there. But when
Speaker 1: the other one came through and cut the rope, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh shit, okay, because I was like, that's
Speaker 1: what I was hoping what happened, because I thought he
Speaker 1: was fucked up. And and for the most part they
Speaker 1: were doing all right. They were burning all the ships up.
Speaker 1: It wasn't until this damn other raggedy ass goddamn draggon
Speaker 1: came along on the scene that she had.
Speaker 12: No control over this motherfucker. This motherfucker was burning every thing.
Speaker 12: Brou The was like, no, she stealer this this thing
Speaker 12: has been in the wild. It no, it don't know anybody.
Speaker 7: You don't know who the enemy is, he said, he said,
Speaker 7: he said, old your cars, Okay, cool, everybody.
Speaker 1: And then the motherfucker's lighting this ass up. So it's
Speaker 1: getting even more upset, it's getting cooked, and she just
Speaker 1: flailing and doing all the other ship. I'm like, bro,
Speaker 1: if she stay your ass where you were at this motherfucker.
Speaker 1: This won't you. At first.
Speaker 3: It up over.
Speaker 4: I was like, here she stealer.
Speaker 1: What that dragon she is? That dragon's pet? That dragon
Speaker 1: left her ass ass off? Came back and fan this
Speaker 1: motherfucker you belong to me. That's what right?
Speaker 7: And man the on line ship with sheep still like
Speaker 7: the threads and the Twitter exes and all that ship
Speaker 7: that been.
Speaker 3: Fucking funny as hell.
Speaker 7: He said he showed up.
Speaker 3: They said he showed up like a young man with
Speaker 3: black forces own.
Speaker 7: One of them was, if y'all see the picture of him,
Speaker 7: he got like his mouth stick out of the bottom.
Speaker 3: Of my he looks off Spike. That's why you see
Speaker 3: the picture. His mouth stick out on the show, Spike. Look.
Speaker 3: But he got the funny part of it.
Speaker 7: Like somebody said, if y'all would have told me that
Speaker 7: he had the same face profile as the baby the rapper,
Speaker 7: I would have told you that she was gonna go
Speaker 7: wrong from the start.
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 4: Mean as hell.
Speaker 3: They got this.
Speaker 2: He has the mouth of that one kid in class
Speaker 2: that got pushed too far and fucked everybody up.
Speaker 3: My god, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I always work out, and you knew what type of
Speaker 2: time he was on The second I saw him, I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, he's like there a special drag.
Speaker 3: He's a special dragon.
Speaker 4: Heart dragon.
Speaker 3: Leave him been in the But I don't think.
Speaker 4: That's all.
Speaker 3: Why did you think.
Speaker 1: You see?
Speaker 7: You see his face, No wonder he'll listen to you, like,
Speaker 7: come on. He looked like a child that don't listen.
Speaker 7: He looked like he got silver He got silver dragon teeth.
Speaker 7: He got silver dragon teeth in his mouth.
Speaker 5: I swear.
Speaker 3: And talking about let's go. What was like, you want
Speaker 3: me to burn it up, burn it up, burn everything up.
Speaker 3: He hey, Mike, Mike got on the point.
Speaker 4: Outside of what is coming up the front.
Speaker 3: Was blowing fut the way a dude Blo spoke from
Speaker 3: the Black Law.
Speaker 2: Not because because to me, Mike, it's also about she's
Speaker 2: saying all this, she's saying, she's talking in the language
Speaker 2: and ship I'm thinking, like, do you even know the language?
Speaker 3: No, he didn't know what the hell she said. All
Speaker 3: we heard was fight.
Speaker 2: That's what I wanted to see name. Honestly, I think
Speaker 2: he was gonna like that mother fuck up. Regardless of
Speaker 2: she said, he saw food.
Speaker 4: Like, oh we got action.
Speaker 3: I'm waiting for this.
Speaker 2: She Hey Mike, He o't here chasing his plate, cousins
Speaker 2: and everything. Ship he was fighting the dragon. You ever
Speaker 2: see a cat when the cat see its reflecting in
Speaker 2: the mirror. The last dragon was that.
Speaker 4: It's another one of the.
Speaker 3: One off So I was so mad.
Speaker 4: I was not expecting this. It was low key funny
Speaker 4: in the moment though I was.
Speaker 5: Up.
Speaker 4: He was like, he's crazy. He was flying close to
Speaker 4: the ships and everything, like my sister, Oh God, And.
Speaker 3: Honestly and this and Mike, this is the part where
Speaker 3: I'm saying, this is part two of like the nigger
Speaker 3: issues that I had with this episode Jace. Jace died
Speaker 3: because of her decisions, because his dumb ass.
Speaker 2: Because no, no, but Jase was Jason was about he
Speaker 2: was trying to save her sister because the dragon was
Speaker 2: coming to her sister. He was like, I got to
Speaker 2: take out the rider. And then he saw that it
Speaker 2: was her sister and he was like, oh ship, and
Speaker 2: they made him cut the other way. And I'm saying
Speaker 2: like and like he was flying in a different way
Speaker 2: that he got caught. I feel you because he was trying.
Speaker 3: To like avoid her.
Speaker 7: He was more experienced. He would have knew what to do.
Speaker 3: But I mean but but but that variable of her
Speaker 3: being there.
Speaker 2: I think they were fine because they were They had it,
Speaker 2: like Ken said, they had a system.
Speaker 3: They knew how to stay where they needed to get.
Speaker 5: Like he didn't get his dragons shot as soon as
Speaker 5: he got his out there before war. She came out like,
Speaker 5: come on, that's like and you yeah, that would have happened.
Speaker 5: I think he would have gotten messed up regardless.
Speaker 1: M hmm yeah. Yeah, that's why the Dragon didn't want
Speaker 1: to go back to the war.
Speaker 3: He drowned on purpose, right, he was like this to
Speaker 3: bear me at to see what my ancestors funy. She
Speaker 3: still got out there quick though.
Speaker 5: She was like, why.
Speaker 1: Are right with these.
Speaker 3: Quick?
Speaker 1: He brother, it's why you leave these in the back
Speaker 1: room and the door clo let him out. You don't
Speaker 1: know how to play with You don't know how to
Speaker 1: play right.
Speaker 2: But I hate seeing the dragon get killed. Boy it
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, it's just gets.
Speaker 3: It gets me bro And then Jason Bro I need out.
Speaker 1: He was too nick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what what hit me?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 1: I just said?
Speaker 3: My contract for season four.
Speaker 1: Got me.
Speaker 7: They did it so quiet, it just.
Speaker 4: Like he was not expecting that the event.
Speaker 2: Was and my dumb ass, thinking like, okay, it's one arrow,
Speaker 2: he can survive that. When it turned around, he was like, ship,
Speaker 2: I'm dead.
Speaker 1: It was the anchor.
Speaker 7: They had the anchor thing going and news what fun
Speaker 7: him up?
Speaker 3: Like he unlashed him?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah took that ye saxophones.
Speaker 3: Boy, yeahinely starting they got me.
Speaker 7: I did not expect this at all, people ship Rick, Wow, No,
Speaker 7: I didn't expect that.
Speaker 1: That's a stupid ass. I was like.
Speaker 3: At the end of up so I was like, damn,
Speaker 3: let me kill Chase. So I wasn't expecting that at all.
Speaker 3: I literally said that.
Speaker 4: I was like for near lost two sons.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's got the one that's not got Joffrey.
Speaker 7: Yeah, she got Jeoffrey, which is the little one. And
Speaker 7: then she got the kids. Yes, the one that she
Speaker 7: sent away, the ones with.
Speaker 4: She got Damon's kids got killed.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Both of the masters.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: This this, this was a good ass. And then she's
Speaker 3: gonna be sick next episode.
Speaker 4: I can't wait. Yeah, she's gonna I hope she killed everybody.
Speaker 4: She started off mad at him because.
Speaker 7: Right, can you imagine when they let her at that room.
Speaker 7: Oh she's yeah, like the motherfucker got to unlocked that door.
Speaker 1: I got ya, got a little out and raised everybody up.
Speaker 2: Everybody because not because it's like you're telling her two things.
Speaker 3: One you open the door, like, oh my bad, I
Speaker 3: got you. And by the way, your son did your
Speaker 3: son did to like, what is you crazy? That dude's gone.
Speaker 3: He's not going to stick around.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he left soon as they got the news. Be honest,
Speaker 7: Oh shot really fucked up.
Speaker 1: Oh man, she's been waiting all this time to get
Speaker 1: on this damn dragon.
Speaker 7: This was her moment, man, and she waited two seasons
Speaker 7: and she wouldn't go see the How To Train the
Speaker 7: Dragon movie.
Speaker 2: And what's funny is that she was right about to
Speaker 2: be at home. Kid looked. It's just like, oh the
Speaker 2: battle right there. That's why I think this this this
Speaker 2: was so well written because one it wasn't expected at all,
Speaker 2: and two you can see like like her heart was
Speaker 2: in the right place, it just wasn't a smart thing
Speaker 2: for her to do.
Speaker 3: Her brain was fucked up. So this was so well done.
Speaker 8: And they're all kids, and they're all kids, right, they're
Speaker 8: all children. But you see her sister knows what she's
Speaker 8: doing because she's trained with the dragon. This girl hasn't trained,
Speaker 8: and again I just don't. I mean, I don't know
Speaker 8: how you look at that dragon you thought I can
Speaker 8: ride him in the battle.
Speaker 3: I don't know why she thought that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because Mike, to your point, her heart was in
Speaker 2: the right place, but the dragon's mouth wasn't.
Speaker 1: Left.
Speaker 5: But on the on the flip side, like when you
Speaker 5: see that, it's not like she can't just not do
Speaker 5: nothing like what she supposed to do.
Speaker 4: Just yeah, home and wait for them to you have
Speaker 4: a whole dragon That's.
Speaker 3: Why I would. Yeah, that's why it was good because
Speaker 3: you can see why she did it. But at the
Speaker 3: same time, when you doing something like you killed man
Speaker 3: on your side, and.
Speaker 2: Also you you thought you were gaining a dragon rider,
Speaker 2: but now you lost one, so you just kind of
Speaker 2: equaled out one.
Speaker 8: It's just yeah, I'm more interested to see how how
Speaker 8: things turn out for her next episode, because I wonder
Speaker 8: if I can't remember her sister's name, I don't, and
Speaker 8: I don't see why she would tell on her.
Speaker 3: But I would imagine the word is going to get back,
Speaker 3: what is it, Bayla Bayla?
Speaker 8: I would imagine the word's going to get back to Ranera, Like, yeah,
Speaker 8: she showed up and she lit half the fucking fleet
Speaker 8: on fire and Jase died because she interfered. I kind
Speaker 8: of wonder if that's going to be the word that
Speaker 8: gets and is that gonna then start like a whole
Speaker 8: other conflict that Rnera's.
Speaker 3: Place right now?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, this is a crazy premiere because now, like
Speaker 2: like episode two is now like gonna be the most
Speaker 2: anticipated episode now.
Speaker 3: But how do you follow this up? It's gonna be
Speaker 3: a slow one, I'm sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, remember it's supposed to be the finale of last
Speaker 3: season ago, so it might, right, but I can see them.
Speaker 8: I can see them ending it with like one of
Speaker 8: those slow like discussion episodes, not like a whole bunch
Speaker 8: of action, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Good point? Why you say that name?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I feel like she's gonna come out so hot mm hmm.
Speaker 5: I just I just can't see this being like there's
Speaker 5: nothing for Rania to talk about at this point, like
Speaker 5: I'm knocking down, I'm going ahead, and Allison, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: come see you now like everybody got it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, because she's gonna think Alison set her up, right
Speaker 8: m m, because she just found out about the Valian fleet,
Speaker 8: like it's like, Nigga, you're supposed to Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 8: And she's not gonna believe Allison when she says, no,
Speaker 8: I didn't know that it won't happen.
Speaker 3: The why you make it kill.
Speaker 5: Me at all the dragons and even the wild when we.
Speaker 8: They need to leave him at home, yeah, and give
Speaker 8: him some toys and be like, look, you stay over here.
Speaker 3: We also got this.
Speaker 2: We also got to see how quickly Agar gets sent
Speaker 2: to her because she could just be like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 2: an exact revenge right now, I'm gonna kill his mother.
Speaker 4: That's a good point. That's a good point.
Speaker 7: That should be head off. Yeah, a burnt one. That
Speaker 7: should be head off soon as he came. You would think, yeah,
Speaker 7: like that would be head off soon as he put up.
Speaker 7: But the little girl to see ship in her dream
Speaker 7: said he was coming back, So we know that ain't
Speaker 7: gonna be the case. Come back in the body.
Speaker 4: Bag and kills him there.
Speaker 5: I just I just don't think it's I think it's
Speaker 5: too much it's gone on for it's to be a
Speaker 5: conversation from her.
Speaker 4: Now she's gonna be too pissed.
Speaker 7: But I think she framed it like he was coming
Speaker 7: back to be king. Like that's why she was so
Speaker 7: surprised when she referred to One Eye as King. She
Speaker 7: was like King, like he coming back and he's gonna
Speaker 7: be ruling. I think, so is she gonna go?
Speaker 3: So there?
Speaker 8: So the they're in kings Landing, right, the one eyed
Speaker 8: guy and yeah, all of them in kingsland So do
Speaker 8: y'all think she's just gonna bust out and immediately go
Speaker 8: to kings Landing?
Speaker 4: I do.
Speaker 7: I think it's gonna be now. I think that there's
Speaker 7: still to somebody wanted somebody said it. There's still gonna
Speaker 7: be conversation had where she at and where she is
Speaker 7: in that castle, and then I think in that conversation they.
Speaker 3: Bring lyrics and the king to her, and then she
Speaker 3: develops a plan from that.
Speaker 1: That's what I think.
Speaker 8: That have that that that grabbed them, that grabbed Larius
Speaker 8: and the burnt dude, they're Raner's people. Yes, Okay, I didn't.
Speaker 8: I didn't know who they were, so I was confused. Okay,
Speaker 8: that makes it more interesting, all right?
Speaker 1: Cool?
Speaker 3: Any other thoughts on this episode?
Speaker 4: Not?
Speaker 1: You know, I think after it was over, I was
Speaker 1: like the women slash moms, all this shit worked out,
Speaker 1: and at the end of the episode, the men fucked
Speaker 1: it all up. Yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 7: That's been the theme of this whole series. Yeah, if
Speaker 7: we think back throughout this whole series, that's been the
Speaker 7: theme of it. Like, Ranera and Allison have primarily been
Speaker 7: able to figure it out, but everybody.
Speaker 1: Else is the theme of a lot of shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah that too, bro. Those are thoughts on this episode
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