1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Okay, I have an update for you, Jason Hammer that 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna love. 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 2: Oh okay, we got it. 4 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 1: During the break, whether it's Ken and Case Show and 5 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 1: Robert's Casey Jason Hammer, when half of the Hammer and 6 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: Nigel Show in with us. There was a hearing today, 7 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: a bond hearing, a bail hearing for our old pal, 8 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: Gabe Whitley. Honest Gabe, disgraced former congressional candidate, got dead 9 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: last in the. 10 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 3: Every staff member at the Hoosier Inquirer, which stupid people 11 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 3: online thought was a real publication. Every staff member. 12 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: Then went to federal prison for lying about donors and 13 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: then found himself in the Marion County jail. 14 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 3: We were the data when he got sentence. Yes, made 15 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 3: a roadie. I made some great sketches. 16 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 1: I've still got him in the office in there when 17 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: we make the move. That's the one thing I'm taking 18 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: with me, all those. 19 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 2: Pictures of my daughter. 20 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 1: Nope, not not taking those, but the you're Vince Vaughn 21 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: and wedding crashers carrying the picture out. 22 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 2: It's coming with me. 23 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: This was a gift Hammer's bad artist sketches of Gabe's 24 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: court here and then he ended up in the Marion 25 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: County jail because he was facing state charges related to 26 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: threats of Abdul, And then when he got out of 27 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: the federal pin something about he didn't want to wear 28 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: his ankle monitor allegedly or something about that, and then 29 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: he ended up they end up putting him in jail, 30 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: which is where he finds himself today. 31 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 3: Why would you not want to wear the ankle monitor? Like, 32 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 3: think about how little these things are actually monitored. There 33 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 3: was a story where there was a dude that was 34 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 3: dead in a Planet Fitness hot tub for like three days, 35 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 3: which there's a lot of side stories to that in itself, 36 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 3: but he had an ankle monitor on in the hot tub, 37 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 3: the tanning bed bed, yes, tanning bed. Now, first of all, 38 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 3: you got to point a little blame here at the 39 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 3: staff of that Planet Fitness. Clearly you're not cleaning it 40 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 3: every night if there's a corpse in there for three days. 41 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 3: But also like you're not doing a real good job 42 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 3: of tracking these things. If we can't find this guy 43 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 3: he's dead with one on. 44 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so if in need that's true, that seems like 45 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: a pretty silly reason to lose your freedom. But he 46 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: had a bail hearing today and according to Abdul, the 47 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: judge said, you're staying in the You're staying in the pokey, 48 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: which he probably likes it. 49 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: I mean holidays in jail, right. 50 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: Don't said he was trying to get out. I mean 51 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: he said he was making the making the case. I 52 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: guess it was on a zoom hearing, but anyway, I 53 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: guess he is. He's got His trial is scheduled to 54 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 1: come up early next year, so it appears he will 55 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: remain in the Marion County Jail until said time, at 56 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: least as of right now. So we wanted to I 57 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: know you would get great joy out of that, and 58 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: want to update the public at Oh I love this. 59 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 1: I love this now. 60 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 3: Somebody's probably listening to the show right now that's going 61 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,559 Speaker 3: to get called for jury duty next year. And imagine 62 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 3: it'll be me because that's the only thing I get 63 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 3: for voting. Imagine the joy on Casey's face when she 64 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 3: shows up to court and it's the trial of honest game. 65 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: Is there any reason you can't be a farre and 66 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: imparcels R No, No. 67 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: We cannot. 68 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 3: As I carry Rob Kendall's book with me. 69 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: I love right. 70 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: That is the most opid thing anybody's ever gone to 71 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 1: prison for, isn't it making up fake campaign owners? 72 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 3: I mean that is the most He's also got fake 73 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 3: staff members at a fake publication. 74 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: The whole dude. They got media asses, by the whole dude. 75 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 3: The Statehouse right, one hundred percent, everything about it and 76 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 3: the thing that would drive me nuts. 77 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: And this is where I lose a little faith in humanity. 78 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 3: Is that stupid Hoo's your Enquirer thing on Twitter that 79 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 3: that moron created. People thought that it was real and 80 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 3: they were sharing articles, you know, from it. I'm like, 81 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 3: it's one of those stupid things where you could create 82 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 3: any sort of headline and people fall for it. 83 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, come on, guys, you got to be better 84 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 2: than that. 85 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: Speaking of things that people fall for, there were apparently 86 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: people who believe that Mike Brown could get redistricting done, 87 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: and as of your interview yesterday, I don't think it's happening. 88 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 3: And here's what I love. I brought up property taxes. 89 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 3: You did just so people would, you know, get off 90 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 3: my ass about it for just five minutes, Like before 91 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 3: we even turn the microphones on, are you going to 92 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 3: ask him about property taxes. Yeah, this is a pretty high 93 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 3: profile feud he's got going on with the Senate pro tem. 94 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 2: But I promise, and I blame you guys for this. 95 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 2: You've got these. 96 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 3: People so fired up about property taxes and it's a 97 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 3: good thing. But I could have Jesus himself walk into 98 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 3: the studio, sit down at this microp's keep himbout property tech. 99 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 2: What's he going to talk about property taxes? What your 100 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: thoughts on the interview yesterday? 101 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 3: So again my goal for when I do an interview, 102 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 3: and I think Nigel is the same way. We're not 103 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 3: here to change anybody's minds like maybe other folks are. 104 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 3: But it's been our understanding nobody's going to change their 105 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 3: mind okay, So we want to make sure we get 106 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 3: the questions out people want to hear. We want to 107 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 3: hear what he has to say. We'll ask some follow ups. 108 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 3: We want to get him on the record. That's the 109 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,679 Speaker 3: goal for when we do interviews. We want to find 110 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 3: out the most important questions Hoosiers have. 111 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 2: We're going to ask it. 112 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 3: Now, whether you like his response or don't like his response, 113 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 3: that's up to you. But we're not trying to change 114 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 3: people's minds. Like, I hate talk radio where it's a 115 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 3: finger wagging and I'm going to change your mind. 116 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 2: Bite me. I can think on my own. What's coming 117 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 2: up this afternoon? Uh Tony Kennet will join us. 118 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 3: We'll have the latest on this little feud at the 119 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 3: Indiana State House, and we're giving away we'd ol tickets, 120 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 3: we'd al who should. 121 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: Be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? Thanks Sammer. 122 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: It is Kennelly Casey on ninety three WYDC