1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,720 Speaker 1: Okay, so we have an update. 2 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 2: Ryan Meuher is having a press conference the Marion County 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 2: Prosecutor joining us now to get an update on what's 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 2: going on as a result of that press conference. Ryan 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: Hedrick from the WIBC newsroom. Ryan Hedrick, we had mentioned 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: this multiple times already today. We were shocked that these 7 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 2: were just misdemeanor charges. Apparently not anymore. 8 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, so Ryan Meuher is saying, about five minutes ago, 9 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 3: they have upgraded the battery to a felony, and I 10 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 3: think it's a level six punishable by maybe a year 11 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 3: in prison. These are now more serious charges. And given 12 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 3: the fact that this elderly man was sitting in a 13 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 3: neck brace in a hospital bed a photo shared by 14 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 3: his family to a media outlet here in Indianapolis, it's 15 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 3: no surprise to me that this guy has really severe 16 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 3: injuries that include a laceration on the side of his 17 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 3: face where there's a hole in his face and he 18 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 3: can't really even speak right now. 19 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was so damaging. 20 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: I mean multiple Max lew as many other people posted 21 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: those photos that came out but released by the victims family, 22 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 2: and I think that was what everybody said. 23 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: These are missed to me. This is these this gets 24 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: you a miss to me. 25 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a really quick cafey, David. I can 26 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 3: tell you I've been in the newsroom for more than 27 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 3: two years now. There have been many, many, many, many 28 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 3: stabbings on Saturday into Sunday, or Friday into Saturday, whatever. 29 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 3: None have warranted a press release from Ryan Mears's office 30 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 3: to us on Sunday morning. It just doesn't happen. 31 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: Ryan Hendrick from the WEC newsroom as our guest, we're 32 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: talking about the latest on the Mark Sanchez case. At 33 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: least one of the charges now has been upgraded to 34 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 2: a felony. 35 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, so that penalty range six months to two and 36 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 4: a half years in prison. At the advisory sentence is 37 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 4: one year fine up to ten thousand dollars, maybe suspended, 38 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 4: or he could be placed on probation. You went down 39 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 4: there and you talked to the people at Loft Miller's, 40 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 4: didn't you. 41 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? I did. I stopped at the Pronto p so 42 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 3: first I wanted to see if there's videos. 43 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: Okay, this was Saturday r Yeah, this. 44 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 3: Was Saturday afternoon when the news broke. TMZ pushed this 45 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,679 Speaker 3: out as a breaking news alert. We learned about it 46 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 3: about noon and then put a plan into action, led 47 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 3: by our news director John Herrick, who instructed us we 48 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 3: were in all different parts of the city trying to 49 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 3: gather news and push it out on air and online. 50 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 3: So I went down to Pronto Pizza along West Washington Street. 51 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: Right at that alley. 52 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 3: It's not really an allio, it's more of a street, 53 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 3: but for the sake of this conversation and Ali, you 54 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 3: could see the loading docks and the blood started right 55 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 3: at the curb as you step up to go into Pronto, 56 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 3: So that's where the blood trail started and then trailed 57 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 3: off right before a mailbox. And people were telling me 58 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 3: that they were seeing this guy, which they later learned 59 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 3: was Mark Sanchez, banging on the window. I went into 60 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 3: that pub casey, that eatery right at the corner, and 61 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 3: I spoke to a woman named Kathy who was bartending 62 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 3: on the Saturday. She told me that the guy that 63 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 3: ultimately applied pressure to Sanchez was not in. He's also 64 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 3: the general manager, so he was working in the pub 65 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 3: closes at midnight. Sanchez rolled up at about twelve thirty 66 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 3: and that's when he started banging on the glass. The 67 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 3: bartender didn't even know who he was, He didn't know 68 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 3: what was say anything. 69 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: Did they say that, you know, I've been stabbed? 70 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 3: This habit of the Sanchez told him that he was shot, 71 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 3: and that was the original run for the call. The 72 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 3: original run if you look it up on the on 73 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 3: the Indianapolis Watch page, which they do a good job 74 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 3: of chronicling the scanner, the original run was a shooting 75 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: and not a stabbing. They only learned that it was 76 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 3: a stabbing when they got to the pub and saw 77 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 3: Sanchez had lacerations on his crotch, on his chest and 78 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 3: I think on his arm. 79 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: Ryan Hendrick from the WIBC newsroom is our guest. He, 80 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 2: along with the rest of the WIBC news team, did 81 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 2: a phenomenal job getting this story out over the weekend. 82 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: We'll talk a little bit about the mistigation that he did. Okay, 83 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: So you do this fabulous podcast it's called Supporting Sobriety 84 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: and which you and Matt Bear talk a lot about 85 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 2: your own struggles with various addictions and so you know 86 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 2: what alcohol does to a person. Can you take us 87 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: through a little bit with your experiences? I mean, because 88 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: what could have happened to make him this mad at 89 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: this guy he didn't even know. 90 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 3: Well, it's called liquid courage for a reason. So when 91 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 3: you drink, you don't feel any pain, you don't even 92 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 3: remember anything. And I remember, I'm not a tough guy. 93 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 3: Nobody ever taught me at a fight. But I could 94 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 3: remember stepping up to people and challenging them to fights 95 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 3: when I was drunk, and sometimes I would win and 96 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 3: sometimes I wouldn't. But one thing I knew for sure 97 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 3: is that I didn't remember anything. When I woke up. 98 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 3: People would tell me tall tales about what happened. I 99 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 3: knew nothing about what happened when I used to fight 100 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 3: when I was drunk. So assuming that alcohol was the 101 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 3: only thing in his system, he very well could have 102 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 3: been enraged and not known that he was fighting an 103 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 3: elderly guy. I mean, think about that. 104 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 4: Do we know what he was doing in the alley 105 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 4: and why he was so upset that the delivery truck 106 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 4: was parked where it was? 107 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 3: The AFFI David said that he was running sprints in 108 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 3: the alley. Now, assuming that he was staying at the Weston, 109 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 3: and assuming that he was drinking at some place that 110 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 3: wasn't the pub, that he sought help from probably drinking 111 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 3: in the west and running sprints and maybe looking for 112 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 3: something else, maybe a lady of the night or drugs. 113 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 3: Who knows what happens when these guys get in town. 114 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 3: But I can tell you one thing. Alcohol is the 115 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 3: most dangerous drug. So I go from speculation to straight fact. 116 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 3: Alcohol is the most dangerous drug. It's the most insidious 117 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 3: and the public why is that, Well, because it's it's accepted. 118 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 3: It's accepted. Matt Bear and I get get into this 119 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 3: all the time. He's like, why wasn't cool enough to 120 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 3: have a drug dealer? Well, your drug dealer was the 121 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 3: corner store that's open until twelve o'clock every night in Indiana, 122 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 3: so you can walk in and get alcohol. It's not 123 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 3: like if I were to go out and cop coke 124 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 3: or heroin from the east Side and try to do 125 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: a shady drug deal in an alley. You can walk 126 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 3: into a liquor store and get your drug a choice. 127 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 3: That's why it's so insidious, because people don't think they 128 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 3: have a problem if they can continue their using because 129 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 3: it's justified and accepted. 130 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 4: Many people are commenting that Ryan Meher's Marion County prosecutor, 131 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 4: is now speaking out, although he's been quiet on many 132 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 4: things for the past three years. Why now, why this story? 133 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 4: Is it because the NFL, a billion dollar company, is involved. 134 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 3: It's embarrassing for Indianapolis when TMZ has this as their 135 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 3: front page story for the better part of twelve hours 136 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 3: on a Saturday, when the news cycle is relatively slow 137 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 3: in Indianapolis and violence are synonymous in Google searches. I 138 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 3: think this is a career case for Ryan Meres. I 139 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 3: think we know he's going to run for mayor. He's 140 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 3: already doing like secret parties to raise money. Joe howg 141 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 3: set may be raising money And if you're Ryan Meres, 142 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 3: a feather in your cap would be prosecuting a former 143 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 3: NFL quarterback who violently assaulted in elderly man. I mean, 144 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 3: what's the better story for him leading into a possible 145 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 3: mayoral run. 146 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: Okay, So from your like, I mean from your investigation 147 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 2: that you've done, and you guys have been on this 148 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 2: all weekend. Do they they being the Prosecutor's office, I mean, 149 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: as you mentioned, they moved on this very quickly. Do 150 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: they feel like they got a pretty good case? 151 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 4: Oh? 152 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because they have a kid evidence. 153 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 154 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 3: So I contacted the management company that manage I forgot 155 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,679 Speaker 3: what management company it is, but they own the whole 156 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 3: block from Pronto Pizza all the way east to the 157 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 3: pub and beyond. There's one company that controls those video cameras, 158 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 3: and assuming looking at the cameras that I was looking at, 159 00:07:59,920 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 3: they have them at north, southeast and west. All cameras 160 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 3: are trained on that loading dock and back at the west. 161 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 3: And there's no ankle that's not covered. And presumably what 162 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 3: Sanchez did was throw this guy into the dumpster, throw 163 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 3: him down to the ground, push him, kick him, punch him. 164 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 3: He did everything short of like choke him out. This 165 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 3: guy was so terrified he said in the AFFI David 166 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 3: that he thought that Sanchez was gonna kill him. 167 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: So is it from all the stuff that you've read 168 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 2: and the pieces were putting together here and obviously these 169 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 2: charges one has been upgraded to a felony that he 170 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 2: may have just been so unaware of who he was 171 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: and what he was doing that, like you had said 172 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 2: with your encounters, perhaps I mean, there was no thing 173 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: that triggered it. He was just in a horrible state. 174 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I could tell you real quick. I was in 175 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 3: a violent fight at a house club house music at 176 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 3: a club in Washington, d C. After like three o'clock 177 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 3: one night, and I remember punching and kicking this guy, 178 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 3: and this guy split my ear with like the tip 179 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 3: of a knife. And every when I woke up at 180 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 3: a friend's house the next day, everybody's like, what the 181 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 3: heck happened? I'm like, what do you mean would happen? 182 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,599 Speaker 3: I knew nothing except I had a band aid on 183 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 3: my ear, and people had told me how violent this 184 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: fight was and how long it went on for I 185 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 3: had no clue that I expended that much energy and 186 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 3: that this guy and I had been in a crazy fight. 187 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 3: So yeah, presumably Mark Sanchez could have like railed on 188 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 3: this guy and he probably woke up handcuffed to a. 189 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: Bed, a hospital bed, a hospital bed. 190 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 191 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 2: Well, you guys did a phenomenal job putting this together. 192 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 2: Like I said, the WBC News team collectively gave up 193 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 2: their weekends, went out, got all this information, and you're 194 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: one of the best in the business. 195 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: Brother. 196 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,719 Speaker 3: Thanks man. 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