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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: The President of the United States. Nothing but shamrocks and

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Speaker 2: the Oval, shamrocks and gold people. Which is how I

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Speaker 2: refer to the shamrock shake, because it is a perfect

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Speaker 2: treat for Saint Patrick's day. In small doses, Tony Katz,

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Speaker 2: Tony Kats today. Remember friends, don't let friends drink green beer.

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Speaker 2: Green beer is dumb. Don't do it. There's Irish whiskey

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Speaker 2: for a reason. Ask I will point you in the

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Speaker 2: right direction. But the President was in the Oval with

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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister of Ireland and just moments ago, Oh

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Speaker 2: was taking questions from the press. And there's been a

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Speaker 2: lot of movement today You've got someone resigning from Tulsea

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Speaker 3: I just want to.

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Speaker 2: Say, for the record, let the losers leave. You don't believe,

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Speaker 2: you don't believe in this war. You don't believe there

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Speaker 2: was any threat from the Iranians. This should not have

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Speaker 2: happened that by his name is Joe Kent, and Joe

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Speaker 2: Kent was there the counter terrorism team, a top counter

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Speaker 2: terrorism official putting on X After much reflection, I've decided

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Speaker 2: to resign from my position as Director of the National

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Speaker 2: counter Terrorism.

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Speaker 3: Center effective today.

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Speaker 2: I cannot in good conscience support the ongoing war in Iran.

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Speaker 3: Iran posed no imminent threat to our nation.

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Speaker 2: It is clear that we started this war due to

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Speaker 3: Oh screw you, ridiculous nonsense.

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Speaker 2: And I won't even engage the Israel stuff because it

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Speaker 3: I can't stop people from believing it. Dear Lord.

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Speaker 2: This weekend was people accusing me of being paid by Masade.

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Speaker 3: I'm being you can't make this stuff up.

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Speaker 2: But they've got nothing else to throw, so they throw this.

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Speaker 2: If you think Trump was led by the nose, it's embarrassing.

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Speaker 2: It's embarrassing to watch people do this. But if you

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Speaker 2: don't think that Iran was a threat to the nation,

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Speaker 2: and you're actually using the terms like imminent threat, you're

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Speaker 2: an unserious person. You're the counter terrorism official, you're the

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Speaker 2: top guy. You don't know they've engaged in terrorism since

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Speaker 2: nineteen seventy nine. Sorry, you have a goal that I

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Speaker 2: don't have, and you have a view that I don't have.

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Speaker 3: And I'm glad that you're gone.

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Speaker 2: And now I got to take a strong look at

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Speaker 2: Tulsea Gabbard and ask what kind of people are you

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Speaker 2: hiring because I don't think they've got America's best interest

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Speaker 2: at heart. Well, Tony, you're just a warmonger. Far from it.

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Speaker 2: I believe in removing the threat. They have always been

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Speaker 2: the threat. All you have to do is open your

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Speaker 2: eyes and look in this idea of imminent threat. When

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Speaker 2: is the threat imminent when they're planning about attacking the

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Speaker 2: land on your house. When's the imminent threat? I rest

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Speaker 2: my case. It is such a nonsense term. But the president,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to get a whole bunch of haters. It's fine,

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Speaker 2: it's fine. I am not moved by nonsense conversations. I'm

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Speaker 2: I wasn't moved by people screaming you have to let

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Speaker 2: Those people child abusers. We note it and we say

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Speaker 2: dismiss those people. You don't accept the fact that Iran

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Speaker 2: Help people with that, you know what war. Okay, I

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Speaker 3: But very rarely do we get what we want in

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the president's answering questions.

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Speaker 4: And September abst today, Well, I'm having a great thing

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Speaker 2: Maybe this is the whole goal, right, ask Trump the

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Speaker 2: And then bring them the toper questions. All right, it's

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Speaker 4: Having made mister president and getting America's allies.

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Speaker 5: And we've done that very strongly, very powerfully.

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Speaker 4: We've wiped out their navy, wiped out their military and

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Speaker 4: Their radar is entirely gone, their anti aircraft machinery is gone.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they've killed much more than thirty two thousand people.

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Speaker 2: The people that were killed was the General Solomoni again

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Speaker 2: clearly isn't this Mozwatak Komani, the son of the Iotolin

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Speaker 2: Imagine he could have just lived in Western civilization, the

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Speaker 2: great question. Bit by bit and piece by piece, you

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Speaker 2: And I don't think I explained it beautifully at that moment.

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Speaker 2: These things take time, the taking out of these leaders,

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Speaker 2: But it's only been a little over two weeks, so

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Speaker 2: has been an absolutely remarkable, remarkable level of success. Why

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Speaker 3: We don't know what we're doing. We don't have an

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Speaker 2: Winning is the exit plan? Ending the regime is the

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Speaker 3: Of course, there's a plan.

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Speaker 2: That it isn't written out and posted on the bulletin

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Speaker 2: I don't ever want to hear about counterinsurgency again. I

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Speaker 3: And then you win. That's how you win, That's how

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Speaker 2: Nonsense, pathetic, pathetic nonsense. Is there any question as to

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Speaker 3: There is no question.

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Speaker 2: Now you could argue with the Israelis are always saying

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Speaker 2: but they may have been a week away multiple times

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Speaker 2: could be different than ours. What is our point of view?

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Speaker 2: Our point of view is that quite clearly we know

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Speaker 2: this from a Steve Winkoff that they admitted that they

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Speaker 2: were at sixty percent Enrichmond. So when we talk about

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Speaker 2: imminent threat, we talk about imminent threat, well, I had

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Speaker 2: to wait until they were ninety percent, which would be

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Speaker 2: weapons grade. Is this what Joe Kent, the top counter

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Speaker 2: terrorism guy who just resigned, Is this his argument? What

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Speaker 2: a foolhardy argument. I'm glad he's gone. I don't have

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Speaker 3: It's a stupid way to go about things, not apologizing

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Speaker 2: You've got senators, you've got members of Congress. You can

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Speaker 2: Something you know valuable to being the loser, because then

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Speaker 2: You know. I'm not a believer that both parties are

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Speaker 3: My god, Well, these Republicans fight already. I'm Tony Pattz.

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Speaker 3: Isn't wearing green and then pinch them. I think that's weird.

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Speaker 2: Don't be pension strangers. That's that is just awkward stuff.

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Speaker 3: That's just that'll get you attacked.

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Speaker 2: President Trump, engaging a whole series of questions, this one

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Speaker 5: We don't need any help. Actually, in fact, we just

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Speaker 5: They thought it was very important. We were just discussing it.

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Speaker 2: And then it was we don't need noow stinking help badges,

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Speaker 3: We'll handle it.

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Speaker 3: It could be that President Trump thought.

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Speaker 3: We're in how how how can we help?

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Speaker 2: That is a real misread of where these nations are

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Speaker 2: the jabs and everything else. Isn't it bad enough they

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Speaker 2: lost in hockey to our men's team, to our women's team,

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Speaker 3: That that is hockey.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's so surprising that nations be like,

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Speaker 2: We got to look good to our people, which I asked, you,

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Speaker 2: People think it's weird that people don't come running to

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Speaker 2: I think he thought they may just come on board,

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Speaker 3: Their own nation's interests. I just think that that standard.

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Speaker 3: But back to the present, I mean amazing.

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Speaker 4: You know, We've that Warriors has been long prosecuted, as

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Speaker 5: Nobody said, oh, you shouldn't do it.

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Speaker 3: He's proving my points.

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Speaker 2: Nations will figure out how to engage in how to

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Speaker 3: Oh, I think they do. You know, this is let's

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Speaker 2: When the Europeans were getting all sorts of ridiculous upity

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Speaker 2: Greenland because Greenland keeps the Russians in the Chinese at Bay,

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Speaker 2: which is much better for us. Remember, all those NATO nations,

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Speaker 2: all those European nations, were thrilled that they never had

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Speaker 2: to spend money on a military harry because we were

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Speaker 2: there to protect them from the Russian threat for decades.

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Speaker 2: And that's why they were so upset with Trump for

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Speaker 2: saying you got to pay your two percent of GDP

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Speaker 2: for NATO, And they were like.

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Speaker 3: How dare you? They all turned into Gretaitunberg, how dare you?

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Speaker 2: He was right, you crazy bastards are going to give

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Speaker 2: up nuclear power to buy oil and natural gas from

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Speaker 2: the Russians who want to kill you. Are you completely insane?

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Speaker 2: He was right, He was a thousand percent right. And

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Speaker 2: when it comes to Greenland, he still writes, now we

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Speaker 2: need Greenland for the conversation regarding hypersonic missiles and how

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Speaker 2: one views those missiles, because hypersonics ride the curvature of

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Speaker 2: the earth versus ballistic missiles which move into the atmosphere

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Speaker 2: and then back down you can see them. They're much

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Speaker 2: easier to target and shoot down. Hypersonics are difficult, so

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Speaker 2: you need some more advanced warning. And Greenland gives us

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Speaker 2: a tremendous amount of advanced warning for any missiles coming

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Speaker 2: over the Arctic.

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Speaker 3: Very simple to understand.

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Speaker 2: And if we're going to have this land, we're then

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Speaker 2: going to be engaging what President Trump refers to his

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Speaker 2: Golden Dome, which we would say is missile defense. And

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Speaker 2: who's going to be a beneficiary of that, Europe. So

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Speaker 2: all of their talk was for their people and being

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Speaker 2: to be able to say it privately, and not even

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Speaker 2: so privately.

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Speaker 3: They were thrilled.

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Speaker 2: You'll notice that Middle Eastern nations aren't screaming at Trump.

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Speaker 2: They're thrilled. They're tired of these people. They want the

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Speaker 2: Iranian low lifes gone. They hate this regime. Hate it, hate, searing,

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Speaker 2: searing hate like Madeline con and Clue, just burning flames.

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Speaker 3: From the side of my head.

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Speaker 2: Just hate these people, and rightfully so, because these people

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Speaker 2: are garbage, absolute garbage, and they were disrupting the entire region.

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Speaker 2: And them being gone is better. It allows for trade,

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Speaker 2: it allows nations to build. Does that mean everything's gonna

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Speaker 2: be perfect for one hundred years?

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Speaker 3: I doubt it. You cannot guarantee everything.

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Speaker 2: But is there any question that Iran is the destabilization

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Speaker 2: of the Middle East, this regime and if they go,

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Speaker 2: you have a better chance at something better.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 2: So much of what you're seeing is the throwing out

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Speaker 2: of the old style. And this is why you know

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Speaker 2: some people will get into Oh, sure you want to

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Speaker 2: attack Iran, You're just a neocon. The neocon would have

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Speaker 2: dropped twelve bombs and said, showed you, and then they

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Speaker 2: would have gone back to the cloak room and had

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Speaker 2: themselves some really crappy whiskey.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we showed them. That's not what's happening here.

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Speaker 3: That's why the whole Neo Koon argument doesn't hold any water.

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Speaker 3: It's not a valuable conversation. This is about fundamentally changing

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Speaker 3: the region because the region wants to change. It's about

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Speaker 3: an opportunity. Now.

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Speaker 2: I argue that should have happened years ago, and again state,

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Speaker 2: I'm glad it's happening now. Back to President Trump in

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Speaker 2: this oppressor, we're not.

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Speaker 5: Ready to leave yet.

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Speaker 4: But we will be leaving in the near future.

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Speaker 5: We'll be leaving in pretty much the very near future.

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Speaker 4: But right now, they've been decimated from every standpoint.

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Speaker 5: And again we've had great support.

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Speaker 4: From countries in the at least great support, but we've

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Speaker 4: had no support from essentially no support from NATO.

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Speaker 2: Yes, no support from NATO. I'm there's a I don't know,

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Speaker 2: maybe I'm alone on that one. Just a large part

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Speaker 2: of me that's not surprised not and they don't want

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Speaker 2: to be seen as doing follow the leader.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 2: But this idea that somehow Trump is supposed to tell you.

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Speaker 3: His timeline and when we're done. I do think that.

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Speaker 2: Is very, very weird that people think that that should

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Speaker 2: be the case. Meanwhile, we may see a vote on

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Speaker 2: the Save Act and Democrats are losing their minds, still

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Speaker 2: lying about this very very rational legislation. I'll have that

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Speaker 2: coming up. Keep it here. I'm Tony Katz, and this

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Speaker 2: is Tony Katz Today. Chuck Schumer has things to say. Man,

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Speaker 2: does he hate the Save Act.

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Speaker 6: Because strongly on this issue he feels it, like Joe

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Speaker 6: and I do, passionately and like all the people here,

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Speaker 6: that this is really one of the most pernicious pieces

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Speaker 6: of legislation that I've ever seen, and they try to

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Speaker 6: disguise it because they know how bad it is. So

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Speaker 6: let me say a few words. Thank you very much,

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Speaker 6: you know America.

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Speaker 2: Let's hold up first, and let me explain why I

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Speaker 2: have to share Chuck Schumer's words, which is really unfair

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Speaker 2: to a great number of you who have done nothing wrong.

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: I'm sharing Chuck Schumer because one of you out there

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Speaker 2: is not wearing green for Saint Patrick's Day. So instead

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Speaker 2: of being pinched, you get this.

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Speaker 3: This is your punishment. You know who you are. You

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Speaker 3: did this.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, you're in your car. Look at the person

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Speaker 2: next to you. Are they wearing green? They're going to

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Speaker 2: force you to listen to Chuck Schumer and you have

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Speaker 2: to do it. You yeah, have Yep, that's right. That

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Speaker 2: is what happens. This is about the same act. This

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Speaker 2: is about voter id This is about ida when you register.

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Speaker 2: This is about keeping voting safe. And Democrats are desperately

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Speaker 2: desperately opposed to this idea.

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Speaker 3: Desperately. I don't know why.

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Speaker 2: Oh wait, we all know why. Because they favor the

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Speaker 2: opportunity for fraud. That is the only thing that we

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Speaker 2: can come to.

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Speaker 3: It is the.

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Speaker 2: Truth that they cannot run away from. They favor the

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Speaker 2: opportunity for fraud. And I don't know why anybody would

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Speaker 2: favor the opportunity for fraud. This is the whole concept

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Speaker 2: of imminent. Do I have to act only when the

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Speaker 2: fraud is discovered after the election is done, after the

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Speaker 2: vote's been cast, and after the person's in office, or

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Speaker 2: can I do something before the fraud happens? Why would

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Speaker 2: I wait for the vote have already taken place. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: I told you it was punishment.

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Speaker 6: Chuck shimmer Bekins are watching in horror as Donald Trump

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Speaker 6: bumbles this country into war.

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Speaker 2: He's also Democrats are very okay with trying to demoralize

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Speaker 2: the troops and lying so other countries feel emboldened. Very

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Speaker 2: weird these Democrats, very very un American talk from Senator Schumer,

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Speaker 2: from Senator Murphy and a host.

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Speaker 6: Of others tanking our economy, driving up costs for families.

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Speaker 6: But what are Republicans prioritizing? Manga Republicans in the Senate

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Speaker 6: this week, they are conspiring with Donald Trump to undermine

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Speaker 6: democracy and disenfranchise millions of Americans by pushing the Save.

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Speaker 2: Act until a Senator walks up to him and says,

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Speaker 2: you are a low life. You think a legal immigrant

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Speaker 2: should vote. You're disgusting. You hate Americans, you don't believe

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Speaker 2: in their right to vote.

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Speaker 3: You just want power. Go to hell, Chuck. Until that

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Speaker 3: happens directly to him, they're gonna keep talking like this.

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Speaker 3: You have to get in their face. And no, I

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Speaker 3: don't like it.

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Speaker 2: But they've set the rules, and until they're willing to change,

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Speaker 2: you have to keep going by their rules. And I

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Speaker 2: do think that people want the toughness. The Democrats want

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Speaker 2: the opportunity for fraud, and they don't care if your

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Speaker 2: vote is somehow harmed as long as they get power.

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Speaker 2: They really hate you. That's what Chuck Schamer's saying. I'm

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Speaker 2: Tony katch.

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Speaker 1: Line from vall Hartbiner and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 3: The story out of Virginia was super ugly count The

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Speaker 3: story is about.

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Speaker 2: A high school where an illegal immigrant who is nineteen

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Speaker 2: is a junior at the high school. Tony Katz, Tony

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Speaker 2: Katz today, Good to be here, Good to be with you,

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Speaker 2: live streaming on the YouTube. Check it out for yourself.

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Speaker 2: Just go to Tony Kats and subscribe.

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Speaker 3: It's just that easy. And this was a local.

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Speaker 2: Reporter, Neil Minnock m I Nck from WJLA in Washington,

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Speaker 2: d C.

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Speaker 3: And Virginia who created the about this.

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Speaker 2: Now, this is disturbing stuff, really and truly, but this

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Speaker 2: is what's happening in Fairfax schools.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I'm Nick Managua's seven News.

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Speaker 7: I'm learning a Fairfax County High school student is charged

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Speaker 7: with nine counts of assault and battery. And this student

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Speaker 7: happens to be in the country illegally. Ice told me

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Speaker 7: that he entered the country in twenty twenty four and

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Speaker 7: was released under the Biden administration, and now he's charged

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Speaker 7: with a sault and battery. Ice told me they lodge

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Speaker 7: a detainer against this man who is in the jail,

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Speaker 7: and Sheriff Stacy Kincaid will not honor that Ice detainer. Now,

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Speaker 7: I looked into it, and I spoke to parents of

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Speaker 7: about a dozen victims who tell me that this man,

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Speaker 7: who's eighteen, will soon be nineteen and as a junior

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Speaker 7: at Fairfax County in high school.

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Speaker 3: Before we get to what he did. Let's at least

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Speaker 3: digest what we are told.

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Speaker 2: He's nineteen, going to be nineteen, he is a junior

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Speaker 2: in high school.

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Speaker 3: Ice will not be listened to.

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Speaker 2: The sheriff will not hand this guy over, even though

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Speaker 2: he's in the country illegally. The detainer will not be followed.

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Speaker 2: This is Virginia under Abigail Spamberger. This is the difference

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Speaker 2: of Junia Republicans and Democrats. Do not tell me about

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Speaker 2: the UNI Party. I will not sit here and disagree

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Speaker 2: with you that there are a lot of Republicans who

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Speaker 2: have absolutely no strength whatsoever. They are absolutely weak, totally true, fact, undeniable.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, But the idea that these parties are

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Speaker 2: the same, these parties are absolutely not at all the same.

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Speaker 2: Listen to what he was doing, and I'm telling you

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Speaker 2: right now it's disturbing.

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Speaker 7: Went behind their girls in the hallways at school and

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Speaker 7: he put his hands in between their legs, moving from

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Speaker 7: the front to.

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Speaker 8: The back with his hands.

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Speaker 7: And this happened at least a dozen times, they tell me,

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Speaker 7: And several victims have come forward and parents are livid.

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Speaker 7: At Fairfax County public schools, they say they have been

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Speaker 7: sweeping this under the rug and this alleged behavior has

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Speaker 7: been going on all school year, according to the prosecutor,

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Speaker 7: and nothing has been done about it until now. And

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Speaker 7: there was a court hearing today where the student's public

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Speaker 7: defender was trying to release him, asking her bail and

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Speaker 7: Fairfax County COmON most Attorney Steven Scout's office agreed to

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Speaker 7: release him, but the judge said no. The judge said

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Speaker 7: that the bail request did not adequately address the public

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Speaker 7: see safety.

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Speaker 2: So Steve Discano, who we have now heard about in

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Speaker 2: a couple of places as being unwilling to work with ICE,

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Speaker 2: working against ICE, working against the interests of citizens. This

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Speaker 2: is also the Stephanie Mintner case. Different case, but getting

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Speaker 2: killed at a.

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Speaker 3: Bus stop by somebody who's in the country illegally.

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Speaker 2: It was Steve Descano who dropped the charges against him

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Speaker 2: before he went on to kill Stephanie Mintner.

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Speaker 3: Mintor m I. N. T Er. And this is the

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Speaker 3: same guy who wants to.

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Speaker 2: Not have charges in leniency for this guy who is

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Speaker 2: fondling underage girls.

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Speaker 3: In a school for the the sake of just making

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Speaker 3: sure we're on the same page.

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Speaker 2: If you favor the release of the Epstein files, and

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Speaker 2: you don't favor this guy being deported, You're full of crap.

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00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 2: I just want to make sure we're all on the

663
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 2: same page. I favor the release of the Epstein files.

664
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 2: I favor charges for anybody involved with abusing children. I

665
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 2: favor jail sentences that go on for forever, and I

666
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 2: favor worse, and I favor this guy being deported or worse.

667
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: If you favor the release of the Epstein files and

668
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: you don't favor this guy being thrown in a jail

669
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 2: cell or thrown out of the country, you're a liar,

670
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 2: you're a fraud, and you're okay with the abuse of children.

671
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 3: To hell with those people and their mothers.

672
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 2: That's the only answer, It's the only possible answer that

673
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 2: one could even begin to come to. That what we

674
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 2: have in front of us is a moment of everybody

675
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 2: coming together on the basics. How in the world is

676
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 2: it possible that one could be in favor of one

677
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 2: thing and not the other thing. I don't know. I

678
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 2: absolutely don't know. Now there's more to this story. There

679
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: is more to this story as I have it here, Because,

680
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 2: as we discussed earlier, the sheriff by the name of

681
00:42:53,560 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 2: Stacy Kincaid. She is the sheriff in Fairfect and she

682
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:10,959
Speaker 2: won't turn him over. So now we have.

683
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 3: Ourselves another set in this conversation. We have not only.

684
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 2: The attorneys desperate for people like this to have leniency,

685
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 2: but we have law enforcement themselves not in favor of

686
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: enforcing the law. Now, since the connective tissue in these

687
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 2: things is Democrats, why don't we start asking questions about

688
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 2: why it is that Democrats are okay with this one

689
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 2: two punch Because in this scenario, in this scene, in

690
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 2: this story, what they are in favor of is children,

691
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 2: girls under the age of eighteen, being sexually grouped. That's

692
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 2: what they favor. I want to know if there's another

693
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 2: way to say this. I want to see how people

694
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 2: could possibly defend this. The argument is clear, undeniable that

695
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 2: if you have a Democrat saying we want no bail,

696
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 2: if you have a Democrat saying we won't turn them

697
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 2: over to Immigrations and Customs enforcement, this is the defense

698
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 2: of groping young girls. What makes Discano the attorney, and

699
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 2: what makes Stacy kink Care the sheriff, any different than Epstein.

700
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 2: You're okay with girls getting abused. Oh so, now it's

701
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 2: the amount of the abuse. So you're okay with girls

702
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 2: getting some abuse, but not all that abuse? Okay, that

703
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 2: that guarantees you, by the way, a spot in heaven. Bravo,

704
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 2: Well dope, seriously particial land and no applause for that.

705
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, good on you, bra Vi Simo. The obscenity

706
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 2: that we are witnessing on this subject from the people

707
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 2: who want to scream look at those pedophile protectors over there.

708
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 2: Trump is not a pedophile protector. Trump and the team

709
00:45:55,600 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 2: and Pambondi have done a crap job regarding the Epstein files.

710
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 3: That got it wrong from the beginning. And I really

711
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 3: cannot tell you why. Well, it's because he's in the

712
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 3: Epstein files.

713
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 2: Because he didn't It's the one thing that I think

714
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 2: is pretty clear he didn't do. Oh, you could argue

715
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 2: he did a whole bunch of things, not that, not that,

716
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 2: but a lot of people did. And why in the

717
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 2: world would you think that this isn't a big deal,

718
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 2: so embarrassingly dopey, Well, this is a big deal. This

719
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 2: is a big bleeping deal. As Joe Biden would say,

720
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 2: followed by now where's my ice cream? You promised me

721
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 2: ice cream? One person Steve Descono, the commonwealth attorney refuses

722
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 2: to turnover, refuses to really engage in prosecution, and wants

723
00:46:54,239 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 2: bail for an illegal immigrant molesting underage girls. And then

724
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 2: you have a sheriff who won't turn that guy over

725
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 2: to Ice. How is this not just another version of Epstein?

726
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 2: It is what it is, what it is. We should

727
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 2: call it what it is. We should be describing this

728
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 2: as it is. The problem is, we've got a lot

729
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 2: of these kinds of stories where you have the left

730
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 2: completely unwilling to do their job. What are they defending,

731
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 2: What are they actually defending? What is it that they

732
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 2: think is valuable here about not turning this guy over?

733
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 2: It would seem to me that turning this guy over

734
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 2: is exactly what we would all want, because that's the

735
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 2: very last person you want out there.

736
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 3: On the streets. You wouldn't want this person.

737
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 2: Near your own wife, near your own sad sister, near

738
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 2: your own aunt, near your own daughters. What person wants

739
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 2: this guy out there? What person possibly wants that person

740
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 2: out there who isn't so absolutely mentally deranged that they

741
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 2: should have to live in an institution and shouldn't be

742
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 2: allowed to drive. The answer is the American left. This

743
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 2: argument would be much stronger if you released everything regarding Epstein,

744
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 2: every last thing regarding Epstein, and then.

745
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 3: Said there it is.

746
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 2: As I have made the argument here, Trump doesn't need

747
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 2: any protection. Put it out there, put it right out there,

748
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 2: and then let's go through it. Let's find people if

749
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 2: they are there, and we could see that they have

750
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 2: engaged in these kinds of acts and prosecute. That's what

751
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 2: the rational person does. That is the only thing the

752
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,479
Speaker 2: rational person does. And the same thing is true here.

753
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 2: But yet there are people out there who think that

754
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 2: Epstein is the only thing that matters and somehow this

755
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 2: guy should go free. That's weird, and I don't know

756
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 2: why we're the only ones noticing it, but it makes

757
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 2: you realize that their whole Epstein conversation is totally full

758
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:43,240
Speaker 2: of crap. I'm Tony Katz, and this is Tony Katz today.

759
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 2: So the Cubans are protesting because they would like to

760
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,479
Speaker 2: be free of the communist healthscape they've been living under.

761
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 2: And Trump keeps talking about you know, I'd love the

762
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 2: honor of getting Cube out of this and having a

763
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 2: free Cuba. That'd be I'd love the honor of taking

764
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:09,720
Speaker 2: over Cuba. It's what a world Tony Katz, Tony Katz today,

765
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 2: Good to be with you, Cuba, Venezuela ran. This is

766
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 2: all about China, and it's just important to keep that

767
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 2: in mind. What has happened here. These things do exist separately,

768
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 2: and then they do exist together. They exist separately because

769
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 2: you had the Maduro regime to deal with and President

770
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 2: Trump was pushing things in a very very clear way

771
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 2: that they were involved.

772
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 3: In trug running and this had to end.

773
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 2: Is that a pretext. I'm going to leave that to others,

774
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 2: and I think people can make their arguments the removal

775
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 2: of Maduro, and there's there's been from what we're hearing,

776
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 2: major changes in Venezuela, but I haven't. I don't know

777
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,760
Speaker 2: if I have seen in a way that I can

778
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 2: tangibly like point to and say, ah, they're that, but

779
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 2: that there's a different vibe, there's a different feel, and

780
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 2: Delsia Rodriguez, who is a Maduro loyalist, has.

781
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 3: Been forced to act differently within the nation.

782
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 2: If that means that people are getting the dollars and

783
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 2: there's actually an opportunity for people to be fed and

784
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 2: they can actually engage in a capitalistic way and get

785
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 2: oil money to be spread around the nation and build

786
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 2: fantastic But the change in Venezuela and the toppling of

787
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 2: communists creates the opportunity to push back on Russian and

788
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 2: Chinese intervention in the Western hemisphere, which is of course

789
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: this conversation regarding Trump and the Monroe doctrine, which I

790
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 2: sometimes call the Trump doctrine, which they sometimes call the

791
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 2: Donro doctrine, which is, you know, going back to the

792
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 2: Monro doctrine, keeping your in influence out of the Western hemisphere.

793
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 2: Now we see keeping the Russians and the Chinese and

794
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 2: their influence out, which also means none of their military operations,

795
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 2: no submarines, no warships, no working on satellite issues or

796
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 2: other other technology issues, no getting close to us.

797
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 3: Nope, nope, nope, not gonna happen.

798
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 2: Then you have Iran and just like you also have

799
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 2: the big one, the oil not flowing to Russia in

800
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 2: those ghost ships, you now have oil not getting to

801
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 2: the Chinese.

802
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 3: Now you have Iranian oil.

803
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 2: Which the Chinese buy, they don't care about sanctions, and

804
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 2: now you have the opportunity to thwart this, to stop

805
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 2: this choking off China and the power source that they need,

806
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 2: a very thirsty country. You also remove their ability to

807
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 2: try and have any level of stronghold in the Middle East.

808
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 2: You remove their ability to allow for saber rattling, which

809
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 2: forces other people to spend their dollars and engage in

810
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 2: other places, so they're not engaging with China or trying

811
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 2: to thwart China.

812
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 3: And then you have Cuba.

813
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 2: That was it ninety What is the total miles that

814
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 2: Cuba is off the coast of Key West their producer landing.

815
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 9: Is it?

816
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 3: Is it ninety three miles? Something like that. Last thing

817
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 3: you want is the Chinese that close.

818
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 2: Last thing you want is communists working in our hemisphere.

819
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 3: And so.

820
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 2: You stop them. It's ninety miles, I said, ninety three

821
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,399
Speaker 2: ninety miles. Thank you Chatteran. I appreciate you guys, Thank

822
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 2: you Landon. This is all about keeping the Communists at Bay,

823
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 2: keeping the Chinese at Bay, as Rush would say, the Chicoms.

824
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

825
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 2: You've now got these multiple moves that really affect the

826
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 2: Chinese in a very detrimental way. It's going to force

827
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 2: them into a levels of rethink about how they do things,

828
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 2: how they operate, how they engage, which.

829
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 3: Is fine by me.

830
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 2: Now, does this keep them from moving forward on Taiwan?

831
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 2: I think that there's an argument to be made about

832
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 2: it might keep them from trying to get Taiwan militarily

833
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 2: because the United States has shown that we've got.

834
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 3: A lot of strength, a lot.

835
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:44,720
Speaker 2: Of capability, capability they didn't know we had. Which sometimes

836
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 2: you don't want to let loose. You don't want to

837
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 2: let the enemy know what you can do.

838
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 3: We little bit let the enemy know what we can do.

839
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean they still can't take Taiwan via

840
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:04,240
Speaker 2: other levels of force or coer But keeping a China's

841
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 2: influence out of our hemisphere and out of our backyard good.

842
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 6: Now.

843
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 2: You can't allow the Chinese communists to own land in

844
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 2: the United States.

845
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 3: You're businesses in the United States. This has to be next,

846
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 3: has to be keep it here.

847
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:28,760
Speaker 2: This is Tony kats today. Three more things Tony Katz,

848
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 2: Tony Katz today, guys, good to be with you.

849
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 3: A lot of.

850
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 2: Stories going on out there. We don't get a chance

851
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 2: to get to everything, and neither does the news well

852
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 2: because they don't seem to focus on the things that matter.

853
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 3: But here's three more things you should be paying attention to.

854
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 2: We've got a court blocking the CDC and blocking HHS

855
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 2: regarding their changes to vaccine policy.

856
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 3: Who the hell is this judge?

857
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 2: His name is Brian Murph, Biden appointee. And you've got

858
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 2: the American Academy of Pediatrics saying how dare the CDC

859
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 2: make changes to childhood immunization schedules and reduce them? And

860
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 2: how dare they remake the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices?

861
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 2: Why can't you remake and and redo and have new

862
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 2: people on the Advisory Committee of Immunization Practices? Oh, because

863
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 2: RFK and Trump put their people on it and not

864
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 2: Bidens people on it. So somehow what doctor Robert Malone's

865
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 2: no longer a doctor? This is the argument being made

866
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 2: that your medicine should be political, that everything should be

867
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 2: based on politics, and if your politics don't agree with

868
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 2: leftist politics, you shouldn't.

869
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 3: Be allowed to do it. This is what judge just say.

870
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 2: What the judge said is that the reconstitution of the

871
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 2: Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices known as asip ACIP, failed

872
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 2: to abide by the Federal Advisory Committee Act, and that

873
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 2: the CDC was bypassing the ACIP when changing the schedule.

874
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 2: It was both a technical procedural failure and of an

875
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 2: abandonment of the technical knowledge and expertise.

876
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 3: Embodied by that committee.

877
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 2: The judge has no say on what is the technical expertise,

878
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 2: because why would anybody believe that the Biden people had

879
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 2: any expertise. They told me I had to stay six

880
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 2: feet away from dying Grandma. The expertise to the left

881
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 2: had Andrew Cuomo sending people with COVID back into nursing

882
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 2: homes to kill every person over the age of seventy eight.

883
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,919
Speaker 2: Ext said, don't wear a mask. Oh no, wait, wear

884
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 2: a mask. Oh no wait. If you don't wear a mask,

885
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 2: you lose your job. The expert said, not only do

886
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 2: you have to take the vaccine, but if you don't

887
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 2: take the vaccine, you're fired. If you don't take the vaccine,

888
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 2: you shouldn't be allowed to travel. And if you don't

889
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 2: take the vaccine, it's okay for us to publicly admonish you.

890
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 2: Take your life savings from you, take your ways to

891
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 2: make a future, a financial future away from you, take

892
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 2: your social skills away from you, the rest of it.

893
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 3: You shouldn't be allowed to be on social media.

894
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 2: You shouldn't be allowed to go to your job, you

895
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 2: shouldn't be allowed this, you shouldn't be allowed entry there, etc.

896
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 2: You know what I'm referring to those medical experts. One

897
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 2: of the questions that got asked me earlier so I'm

898
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 2: discussing what's going on in Iran is why do you

899
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 2: trust the government?

900
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 3: Kitten?

901
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 2: What does any of this have to do with trust?

902
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 2: Am I keeping an eye on them? Of course I am.

903
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 2: Do I want anything expansive? Do I want anything like

904
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 2: nation building? Absolutely? Not taking out the regime I absolutely favor.

905
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 2: But if we want to talk about where the lack

906
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 2: of trust comes from, well, the lack of trust's been building.

907
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 3: I think.

908
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 2: I think we're all honest with each other, regardless of

909
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 2: our politics. We understand that this has been building and growing.

910
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 2: That this is true of both parties in a lot

911
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 2: of places.

912
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 3: Now. It's certainly more true on the.

913
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 2: Political right, because the political right has more of a

914
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 2: rational opposition to government larges. The progressive loves government largess

915
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 2: because that's where the control comes from. The political right

916
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 2: wants more individual freedom, and more individual freedom means less government.

917
00:59:56,040 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 2: That's where the divide is. But trust, what are we

918
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 2: talking crazy about the left doesn't trust government when Trump

919
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 2: is around. Kamala Harris said, you can't trust the vaccine

920
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 2: if Trump creates it.

921
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 3: That's a lot of hate.

922
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 2: So this judge deciding that that committee is improperly formed

923
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 2: because the experts aren't acceptable, that's not a judge you

924
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 2: should listen to.

925
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 3: It's not a judge you should listen to.

926
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 2: The argument is that the issuance of a January twenty

927
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 2: twenty six memo which made these changes was arbitrary and

928
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 2: capricious because it abandoned the agency's long standing practice of

929
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 2: getting recommendations from ASIP before changing immunization schedules without sufficient explanation.

930
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 3: And his argument is, well, you.

931
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 2: Changed at first, and therefore no So this all seems

932
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 2: rather perceived, doesn't actually change anything.

933
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 3: Really doesn't. But the idea that Robert F.

934
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 2: Kenny Junior as the Secretary of Health and Human Services

935
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 2: can't fire everybody who is on that old committee can

936
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 2: fire everybody. There's not a damn thing the left can

937
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 2: do about it. He's in charge, he can fire who

938
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 2: he wants. When jabbyer Bisera, a guy who knew nothing

939
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 2: was in charge, you can fire anybody who wants. That's

940
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 2: that I feel the same way about deportations. Story number two,

941
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 2: an appeals court allowing the Homeland Security Department to continue

942
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 2: with the third country deportations excellent, issuing the ruling that

943
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 2: Homeland Security can deport illegal immigrants to countries other than

944
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 2: their homes when the need arises. A lower court had

945
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 2: stopped the practice. So you tell me, I'm not allowed

946
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 2: to deport so and so to their home even though

947
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 2: they're here illegally, because you, some judge claim there's a

948
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 2: harm that could befall them. So I say, all right,

949
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 2: we'll deport them to this other country. Oh no, you

950
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 2: can't do that either. What the hell judges are in

951
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 2: charge of foreign policy of immigration policy.

952
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 3: Judges aren't in charge of anything.

953
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 2: They're judges in courts that Congress could easily take away,

954
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 2: and they should. Glenn Reynolds, the law professor there in Tennessee,

955
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 2: thinks you need more courts. It's an interesting argument that

956
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 2: he's making. I keep thinking about it. It's been over

957
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 2: a year I think before he made this argument. Maybe

958
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 2: it just feels like it here. But these judges who

959
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 2: think that they're in charge, screw them. Who'ds decided they

960
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 2: get to make the say on deportations. We elected somebody

961
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 2: to handle the deep importations. We want them to handle it.

962
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 3: Oh it's the same judge. Huh. The judge who blocked

963
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 3: Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

964
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 2: Regarding childhood immunization schedules is the same judge who wanted

965
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 2: to block the administration from department deporting legal immigrants to

966
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 2: third countries. The first US circud Quarter of Appeals is

967
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 2: put Judge Murphy's ruling on hold. So when I say,

968
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 2: activist judge, I'm right, I'm right.

969
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 3: Everyone knows I'm right. I'm right, plain and simple. Then

970
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 3: there is the Washington Post.

971
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:57,479
Speaker 2: You know, there's this story, this meme I should say,

972
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 2: that goes around and around, around and around, and the

973
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 2: meme basically consists of the line, you do not hate

974
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 2: the media enough.

975
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 3: You don't.

976
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 2: These people are absolutely awful. They are the very very

977
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 2: very worst. They can't They will lie to you in

978
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 2: every single way, each and every chance they get, without question.

979
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 2: So you had nine Antifa terrorists, right, these Antifa folk,

980
01:04:54,600 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 2: and they were convicted in Texas for attacking an icefl's

981
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 2: facility and attempting to murder officers there. Right, that's what

982
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 2: they were convicted of. Here is how the Washington Post

983
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 2: decided to tell the story. Texas prosecutors are arguing that

984
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 2: an ICE facility protest was actually a left wing terrorist plot.

985
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 3: The first ever trial against.

986
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 2: An a legend ANTIFA sel could be a playbook for

987
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 2: cracking down on Trump administration critics.

988
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 3: They were trying to kill members of ICE.

989
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 2: And how does the Washington Post describe this? Describes it

990
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 2: as Trump administration critics.

991
01:05:57,040 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 3: You do not hate the media enough. You just don't.

992
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 3: That is three more things. I've got more ahead, keep

993
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 3: it here.

994
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz, and this is Tony Katz today.

995
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 4: And I always thought he was a nice guy, but

996
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 4: I always thought he was weak on.

997
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 5: Security, very weak on security.

998
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 4: I didn't know him well, but I thought he seemed

999
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 4: like a pretty nice guy. But when I read her statement,

1000
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 4: I realized that it's a good thing that he's out

1001
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 4: because he said that Iran was not a threat. Iran

1002
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:35,439
Speaker 4: was a threat in every country realized what a threat

1003
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:37,439
Speaker 4: Iran was. The question is whether or not they wanted

1004
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 4: to do something about it.

1005
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 2: That's President Trump talking about a guy by the name

1006
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 2: of Joe Kent, who was the director at the National

1007
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 2: counter Terrorism Center who resigned, resigned, and I cannot in

1008
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 2: good conscience support the.

1009
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 3: Ongoing warn around Iran.

1010
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 2: Poe's no imminent threat to our nation, and it is

1011
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 2: clear that we started this war due to pressure from

1012
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 2: Israel and this powerful American lobby. Well, speaking of powerful lobbies,

1013
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 2: Joe Kent, how about you with.

1014
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 3: Tucker Carlson at his Christmas party?

1015
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 2: Are you working for the powerful Tucker Carlson lobby throwing

1016
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 2: around the lies that Israel dragged America to this war?

1017
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 2: You absolute freak. I'm glad you're gone. Tony Katz, that's

1018
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 2: my name, Tony Katz. Today, I have no time for

1019
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 2: weak people in positions of power pretending to defend the

1020
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 2: country when they can't or won't. No time for weakness.

1021
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 2: What was in America's best interest?

1022
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 3: Imminent?

1023
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 2: You really would wait for the bomb to hit and

1024
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 2: then be like, hmm, I wonder if we should do something.

1025
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 2: Do you work for the Tucker Lobby? It seems to

1026
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 2: me from this photo right here, this photo I'm looking

1027
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 2: at right right right over here, that.

1028
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 3: You work for the Tucker Carlson lobby.

1029
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 2: You work for the TCL, and as part of the TCL, right,

1030
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 2: you do whatever it is Tucker Carlson wants.

1031
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 3: You did Tucker's bid. You do Tucker's bidding. That's what

1032
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 3: you I thought. This is the way the game is played.

1033
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 2: No, No, Joe Kent, formally running National counter Terrorism can

1034
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 2: have his own thoughts or ideas. And that'd be like

1035
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 2: saying that the United States engages in actions regardless of

1036
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 2: what Israel wants.

1037
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 3: They might be aligned, they might not be aligned.

1038
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 2: But I'm told by all the people on the left

1039
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 2: and the wolk right that it's just following the leader,

1040
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 2: which is somehow Israel, and that America doesn't think for itself. Now,

1041
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 2: so I have to apply the same rules to anybody

1042
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 2: associated with Tucker.

1043
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 3: That's what's happening.

1044
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 2: You just followed Tucker Carlson. That's all you do. You

1045
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 2: do his bidding. We get it now, Glad we have

1046
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 2: this all figured out. Glad we got it understood and explained.

1047
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 2: That was I think that it's gonna be hard for

1048
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 2: some people. What's gonna be hard is getting to the airport. No,

1049
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 2: not getting there. Getting there might be very easy, but

1050
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 2: getting on your plane, because the Left is very okay

1051
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:23,600
Speaker 2: with not funding the Department of Hoonland Security TSA is

1052
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 2: not getting paid. Oh, they'll fund TSA, but not the

1053
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 2: rest of the HS. Sorry, I'm not playing your games.

1054
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 2: You fund the Department of Homeland Security and includes ICE

1055
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 2: because ICE is engaged in a valuable mission. Includes border patrol,

1056
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 2: it includes the Coast Guard, and you don't get to.

1057
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 3: Pick and choose.

1058
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 2: The legislation's right there, and Republicans should tell them to

1059
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 2: screw off.

1060
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:48,600
Speaker 3: OHNs.

1061
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 2: For airports, yeah, they might shut down.

1062
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:56,759
Speaker 9: We're doing absolutely everything we can. We have a natural

1063
01:09:56,800 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 9: Deployment Office force and we fully depleted that, so at

1064
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 9: this point we're fully stretched, and so frankly, there's not

1065
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 9: much else we can do as the weeks continue.

1066
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:08,879
Speaker 3: If this continues, it's.

1067
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 9: Not hyperbole to suggest that we may have to quite

1068
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 9: literally shut down airports, particularly smaller ones, if call out

1069
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 9: rates go up and we can't. A lot of these

1070
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 9: officers can't afford to come in. I talked to one

1071
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 9: officer this week. She's a single mother, and she has

1072
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 9: a special needs child, and she can't afford to pay

1073
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:29,599
Speaker 9: for her special needs child childcare. So, again, were I

1074
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 9: believe it's frankly unconscidable that we have said the Democrats

1075
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:35,799
Speaker 9: that are playing, you know, they're holding our folks financial

1076
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 9: livelihood hostage over political games, political partisanship. So we really

1077
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:41,639
Speaker 9: need to get back to normal order.

1078
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 2: So just like they did in the first shutdown, we're

1079
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 2: here on spring break and Democrats want to exert maximum

1080
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 2: pain and Republicans still haven't messaged this properly. I told

1081
01:10:57,160 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 2: them how, go to the airport, make videos, hand out

1082
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:05,719
Speaker 2: bottles of water and sandwiches and all sorts of things.

1083
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 3: So sorry, you have to wait in this line.

1084
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 2: These Democrats won't fund the Department of Homeland Security, and

1085
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:13,679
Speaker 2: it has to be funded in.

1086
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 3: Full, not little pieces of it.

1087
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 2: They have to be responsible Americans and care more about

1088
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:24,759
Speaker 2: America than they do about power. And Republicans missed the moment.

1089
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 2: Maybe they can still clod back. Let's bring breakers here

1090
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,639
Speaker 2: and people ain't gonna be able to fly, and that's

1091
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 2: going to be a thing.

1092
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Speaker 3: Keep it here. This is Tony Cats today.

1093
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:51,720
Speaker 1: Lie from vall Hartbier and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Kats today.

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Speaker 2: It's very weird to see people in America wanting America

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Speaker 2: to fail.

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Speaker 3: But there's a lot of this.

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Speaker 2: There's a ridiculu amount of this a complete willingness to

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Speaker 2: manufacture what's happening on the ground in Iran, a complete

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Speaker 2: willingness to make the claim that we are behind the

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Speaker 2: eight ball, that we failed here, that somehow we don't

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Speaker 2: have an exit plan. Even though we may not have

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Speaker 2: everything written down on paper, it's not satisfactory to them.

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Speaker 2: So therefore this is total bungling and everything's Vietnam all

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Speaker 2: over again. It's kind of remarkable to watch people make

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Speaker 2: these moves.

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Speaker 3: And it's not just on the left, it's on the

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Speaker 3: woke right as well.

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Speaker 2: And when you see pieces from Al Jazeera saying, you know,

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Speaker 2: the Iranians are really getting destroyed here, what exactly are

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Speaker 2: we looking at? What has happened lately? And how is

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Speaker 2: this war one? Tony Kats Tony Katz today, Good to

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Speaker 2: be here, Good to be with you. Chuck Devor joins

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Speaker 2: us right now from the Texas Public Policy Foundation, where

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Speaker 2: he does a great number of things. He's the Chief

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Speaker 2: National Initiative's Officer. He was there in the Reagan era Pentagon,

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Speaker 2: served in the US military, rising to the rank of

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Speaker 2: lieutenant colonel.

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Speaker 3: And Sir, you do a lot.

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Speaker 2: You've been talking a lot about this with the good

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Speaker 2: people over there at Fox News. Let's start with where

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Speaker 2: we're at in this military campaign, a little more than

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Speaker 2: two weeks into this. What exists or doesn't exist from

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Speaker 2: the Iranian military?

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Speaker 3: And how do you.

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Speaker 2: Categorize, as a guy who has seen this happen before,

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Speaker 2: how do you categorize how the US military has maneuvered here.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, let's start with the last question. First. I'd

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Speaker 8: have to say it's just been superb. I mean, it's

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Speaker 8: unbelievable how well the US military with their Israeli allies

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Speaker 8: have functioned, keeping mistakes to a minimum, being ahead of

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Speaker 8: the time schedule, and really achieving some significant strategic effects.

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Speaker 8: So let's talk about those effects. One of the big

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Speaker 8: worries as we started this war was Iran's ballistic missile

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Speaker 8: capability and their drone capability, And what you see are

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Speaker 8: two things. It's like a virtuous cycle. What's happening is

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Speaker 8: is that the US, mostly the US and with some

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Speaker 8: help from our Israeli allies, have been destroying the mobile

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Speaker 8: missile launchers as well as the drone launching facilities or vehicles,

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Speaker 8: storage sites, manufacturing centers, and so what you've seen is

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Speaker 8: the drone and missile fire. Both have significantly decreased from

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Speaker 8: just a little over two weeks ago down over ninety percent.

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Speaker 8: But there's another side of that equation, which is the

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Speaker 8: effectiveness of the interceptors not only aboard US vessels but

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Speaker 8: also in Israel and with our Gulf Arab allies. And

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Speaker 8: you're seeing the effectiveness of the interceptions of the missiles

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Speaker 8: and the drones go from you in the high to

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Speaker 8: mid eighties, low nineties, depending on the system, to today

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Speaker 8: we're consistently knocking down the drones and missiles at a

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Speaker 8: rate of ninety five to ninety eight percent. Now, some

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Speaker 8: of that is because there's a slackening of fire from Iran,

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Speaker 8: and some of that is because we're getting better in

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Speaker 8: the Israelis, the US, and the golf Air of allies

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Speaker 8: are all getting really good at this, including lastly, Tony

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Speaker 8: some very interesting information that we're getting out of the

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Speaker 8: golf Arab states where they're taking us Apache helicopters that

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Speaker 8: we sold them and they're using the chain guns on

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Speaker 8: those helicopters to shoot down that she had drones. And

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Speaker 8: so finally we have a low cost solution to shooting

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Speaker 8: down these very cheap and plentiful drones, which is just

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Speaker 8: simply a fire from a helicopter.

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Speaker 2: Now, the idea of something being low tech doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: that it's bad tech. And really the drone conversation that

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Speaker 2: a conversation of cost effectiveness. But the success that we're having.

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Speaker 2: You know, we've taken out the Solemoni class destroyers, I

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Speaker 2: believe it is from the Iranians. There was the thinking

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Speaker 2: of another ship from from a US sub which may

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Speaker 2: have been one of the Solomoni class. Talk to me

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Speaker 2: about what has actually been degraded, if not eliminated, by

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Speaker 2: US and Israeli forces thus far.

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Speaker 8: Yeah. So, again, the importance of this cannot be overstated,

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Speaker 8: which is that the entire Iranian navy is now combat

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Speaker 8: and effective. It's either at the bottom of the sea

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Speaker 8: or it's so damaged that it can't do anything. And

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Speaker 8: let me just say that there has not been one

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Speaker 8: confirmed hit by a sea mine in all of the

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Speaker 8: days of combat that we've had. There were some drones

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Speaker 8: and some unknown attacks on the the upper side of

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Speaker 8: a ship, but no sea mines, and that was something

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Speaker 8: that everyone was terribly fearful of. And of course we've

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Speaker 8: destroyed the vessel that would disperse those minds. So that's

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Speaker 8: number one. Number two the air defense systems, and that

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Speaker 8: isn't just the missile launchers, but of course it's the

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Speaker 8: radar and even more importantly, the communications nodes that stitch

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Speaker 8: it together as a system, So that is completely gone.

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Speaker 8: Number three, the command and control capability of the i

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Speaker 8: r GC. That's the you know, the rough equivalent to

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Speaker 8: the Nazi s s in Iran, the besiege militia UH,

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Speaker 8: these terrible you know young you know, kind of almost

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Speaker 8: thinking like Lord of the Flies or Hitler youth or

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Speaker 8: something like that. So the leadership and the command and

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Speaker 8: control for the becige militia UH. And of course other

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Speaker 8: traditional regime command and control, including of course regime figures

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Speaker 8: right individuals, who are who are the leaders of this

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Speaker 8: Iranian revolutionary kind of thuggish, corrupt dictatorship. So, and lastly

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Speaker 8: the missile manufacturing and drone manufactur lecturing facilities as well.

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Speaker 8: The latter, of course very important for Putin and Russia

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Speaker 8: to help their war against Ukraine because a significant number

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Speaker 8: of the drones being used against Ukraine where the Shahid

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Speaker 8: drones from Iran, and so their ability to manufacture those

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Speaker 8: as well has been largely degraded, and so lastly, what

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Speaker 8: you're left with is you do have large numbers of

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Speaker 8: individuals who are supposedly still under arms for the regime,

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Speaker 8: but they've been decentralized. The Iranian government decentralized the command

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Speaker 8: and control as a defensive measure. So it's hard to

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Speaker 8: tell at this point just how much control they have

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Speaker 8: on the country and whether or not the long suffering

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Speaker 8: Iranian people, if they rose up, might see some measure

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Speaker 8: of success in certain regions.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Chuck Tivoor the Texas Public Policy Foundation and

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Speaker 2: rets extensively on these subjects, and the taking out of

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Speaker 2: the IRGC.

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Speaker 3: As we've discussed here, is everything.

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Speaker 2: You can't have the people making their moves take their

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Speaker 2: country back until the Islamic Revolutionary guardcore is destroyed. And

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Speaker 2: one of the ways they're destroyed is by hand to

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Speaker 2: hand combat, literally boots on the ground conversations. The other

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Speaker 2: way they're destroyed is by taking away the funding that

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Speaker 2: gives them the power to be there. That happens by

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Speaker 2: disrupting the oil flows and putting an end to hard currency.

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Speaker 2: This brings us to the conversation of Carg Island Khaarg.

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Speaker 3: We saw the bombing raids.

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Speaker 2: That took place last week, taking out military assets, but

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Speaker 2: leaving the oil intact. Ninety percent of Iranian oil goes

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Speaker 2: to Carg Island, and that's how they're able.

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Speaker 3: To get their dollars.

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Speaker 2: We now hear about the USS Tripoli, which is an

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Speaker 2: amphibious assault ship heading its way to Carg Island there

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Speaker 2: in the Persian Gulf with twenty five hundred marines to.

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Speaker 3: Take the island.

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Speaker 2: I make the argument that that's very very weird to

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Speaker 2: telegraph you're sending a ship it's going to take two

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Speaker 2: weeks ten days to get there. Talk to me about

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Speaker 2: carg Island, the mission that was successful in taking out

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Speaker 2: if you think it's successful in taking out any military

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Speaker 2: installations on the island, and can the capture of this

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Speaker 2: island the ending of oil flows?

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Speaker 3: Can this end the IRGC?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, So let's go back a few days. You may

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Speaker 8: recall that there was a strike on some oil refineries

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Speaker 8: on the outskirts of Tehran by the Israeli believe it

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Speaker 8: was storage facilities as well. Now why was that important? Well,

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Speaker 8: because the refined product that's used within Iran provides the

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Speaker 8: IRGC with a steady stream of income and that steady

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Speaker 8: stream of income has largely ended with the destruction of

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Speaker 8: those facilities. Now, of course I didn't harm Iran's ability

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Speaker 8: to export crude oil. That was for internal consumption. So

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Speaker 8: then let's move to your question about Cargo Island and

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Speaker 8: about the inbound marine expeditionary unit on board the USS

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Speaker 8: Triple Le and how poetic right from the halls of

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Speaker 8: Montezuma to the shores of Triple E. So the important

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Speaker 8: thing about an MEU Marine expeditionary unit is that they're

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Speaker 8: like a self contained army. They you know, of course

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Speaker 8: the Marines wouldn't like to hear that, but I don't

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Speaker 8: mean army with a capital A lower CASEA. So this

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Speaker 8: self contained unit has fighter jets in the form of

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Speaker 8: F thirty five's, it has helicopters in the form of

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Speaker 8: Age one Z vipers. It's got heavy lift you know,

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Speaker 8: for example, your Osprey's and your C stallions. So it

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Speaker 8: is a force that is able to project multiple threats. Now,

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Speaker 8: go way back with me, if you will, to the

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Speaker 8: First Golf War. I was on active duty for it.

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Speaker 8: Albeit I was supporting the war from the National Training

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Speaker 8: Center in California, working in you the all sorts of

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Speaker 8: intelligence section.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 8: You may recall that we parked a large marine amphibious

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Speaker 8: force off the coast of Kuwait as a feint, and

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Speaker 8: we told Saddam was saying, hey, Saddam, look, you know

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Speaker 8: we have all these marines. You're ready to invade you

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Speaker 8: from the sea. And what that did was it tied

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Speaker 8: down a lot of Rock's best units in Kuwait to

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Speaker 8: try to face this phantom invasion, while, of course the

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Speaker 8: real threat went way to the west and did this

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Speaker 8: big left hook that completely caught the Iraqi forces unprepared.

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Speaker 8: So the MEU coming inbound on the Tripoli has all

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Speaker 8: kinds of opportunities that it gives your military planners. Could

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Speaker 8: they take carg Island, Yes they could. Could they work

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Speaker 8: to destroy any sort of anti ship remaining anti ship

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Speaker 8: capability in the Strait of Hormuz, Yes they could. Could

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Speaker 8: their viper helicopters be used to shoot down owns when

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Speaker 8: they if they begin to do convoy operations, Yes they could.

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Speaker 8: So the bottom line is is that this task force,

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Speaker 8: this powerful force of marines, simply multiplies significantly the amount

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Speaker 8: of options available to the Centcom commander, of which carg

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Speaker 8: Island is only one of the many things that this

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Speaker 8: MEU can do.

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Speaker 2: But you bring up something that I was discussing with

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Speaker 2: Ed Marcy over at hot air dot com. You're both

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Speaker 2: Texas guys. You guys should be talking every day. Which

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Speaker 2: is the idea of this this Pentagon specifically and the

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Speaker 2: head fake being able to show one thing and then

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Speaker 2: doing another thing. They have been remarkably good at this.

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Speaker 2: Chuck talking to Chuck de Voor of the Texas Public

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Speaker 2: Policy Foundation and the you know, the sending up remember

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Speaker 2: the original bombing raids on the nuclear facilities at Isfahan,

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Speaker 2: Fodeau and Nton's sending B two's this way while you

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Speaker 2: were hitting B two's sending B two's that way. Is

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Speaker 2: has the deception been as successful here with Iran as

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Speaker 2: we have seen it in the past.

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Speaker 8: I certainly think so. I Mean, what's interesting to me

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Speaker 8: about democracies and deception plans, and specifically in the US,

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Speaker 8: is that our enemies, traditionally Nazi Germany, for example, with

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Speaker 8: the deception effort that they put in quite successfully to

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Speaker 8: the Battle of the bulge right or the Soviet Union.

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Speaker 8: In the Soviet Unions case, deception was a major part

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Speaker 8: of their doctrine and with us. It's something that we

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Speaker 8: talk about and we train about, and I think frequently

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Speaker 8: we think that we're not all that good at it

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Speaker 8: because we kind of view more as an afterthought, largely

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Speaker 8: because we have such huge advantages and logistics and technology

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Speaker 8: and training and morale. But in fact we're actually not

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Speaker 8: bad at it. You saw, for example, an enormously successful

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Speaker 8: deception plan that went into D Day with the signaling

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Speaker 8: of a major amphibious assault directly across the channel into Calais,

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Speaker 8: and we worked with the French resistance, who frankly didn't

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Speaker 8: quite know what we were doing. We had patent leading

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Speaker 8: a ghost army, the first US army that was completely

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Speaker 8: fake with inflatable tanks, and we're showing Adolf Feler in

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Speaker 8: his general is exactly what they wanted to see. And

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Speaker 8: then we ended up invading somewhere else in Normandy. So

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Speaker 8: we're actually historically not bad at it. We kind of

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Speaker 8: think that we're bad at it, and I don't know

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Speaker 8: historically have have perhaps not put as much emphasis on it.

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Speaker 8: But part of the challenge, of course is leaks. You know,

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Speaker 8: when you're in an open society and you have a

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Speaker 8: democracy like we do, it's hard to keep a secret.

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Speaker 8: On the other hand, sometimes you can use that to

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Speaker 8: your advantage by almost acting as of oops, you know,

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Speaker 8: we just have revealed some information that we didn't intend to,

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Speaker 8: when in fact you did intend to reveal this false information.

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Speaker 8: So yes, they had been doing exceptionally well. And you know, Tony,

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Speaker 8: I think there's another huge thing that is often overlooked here.

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Speaker 8: Let's take a few steps back and look at this.

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Speaker 8: Look at where America was Visa vi China and Russia

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Speaker 8: on the eve of the inauguration of Donald Trump. And

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Speaker 8: look at today, where you have Venezuela no longer a

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Speaker 8: Chinese outpost. You have Cuba ready to fall to the

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Speaker 8: forces of freedom for the first time in sixty plus years.

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Speaker 8: You have Mexico and their one party dictatorship becoming increasingly isolated,

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Speaker 8: and the human trafficking and drug cartels being increasingly pressured.

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Speaker 8: And now you have Iran, which is bedeubled American foreign

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Speaker 8: policy and the general neighborhood of the Middle East since

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Speaker 8: nineteen seventy nine, and a major part of China and

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Speaker 8: Russia's war plans that they would be available as a

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Speaker 8: irritant or a distraction for the US if anything were

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Speaker 8: to happen, if you were Jijingping today, you would have

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Speaker 8: to look at the current state of the world and

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Speaker 8: determine that America under Donald Trump is so powerful and

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Speaker 8: so strong militarily that you don't dare even dream about

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Speaker 8: trying to take Taiwan by force. That is the effectiveness

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Speaker 8: of what's been going on under Donald Trump and the

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Speaker 8: massive increase to our credibility and to our deterrence, which

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Speaker 8: at the end of the day, significantly increases the likelihood

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Speaker 8: of peace.

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Speaker 3: I've got more with Chuck Devorr coming up. Keep it here.

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Speaker 3: This is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's better late than never, but I'm telling you

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Speaker 2: it's too late. Republicans should have been on this two

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Speaker 2: weeks ago. Go Tony Katz. Tony Katz day, What am

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Speaker 2: I talking about? How you message on Democrats not funding

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Speaker 2: the Department of Homeland Security and putting Americans in harm's way.

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Speaker 10: And now when our borders are finally secure and when

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Speaker 10: criminal illegal aliens are finally being held to account for

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Speaker 10: breaking our laws, now the Democrats want a reverse course.

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Speaker 10: They want to go back to open borders. They want

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Speaker 10: to defund the agencies that are responsible for keeping law

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Speaker 10: and order, and now Leader Jefferies has claimed the latest

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Speaker 10: proposal to defund CBP will just allow talks to continue.

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Speaker 10: But you all know because you're tracking it every day.

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Speaker 8: That's nonsense.

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Speaker 10: Bipartisan talks were already underway before funding lapsed. It was

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Speaker 10: Democrats who walked away from the table. They did it

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Speaker 10: precisely so that they could take the Department of Homeland

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Speaker 10: Security as their next political hostage. They've made a political calculation.

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Speaker 10: They're polling says they're not fighting Trump enough, and so

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Speaker 10: they've determined that Homeland Security was the place to throw

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Speaker 10: down the gauntlet. It's so crazy, it really is.

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Speaker 2: You should have been discussing this two weeks ago. America

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Speaker 2: has been made unsafe because Democrats hate Trump more than

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Speaker 2: they love your kids being safe. That's the argument, right,

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Speaker 2: It's a take off on gold in my ear. Well,

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Speaker 2: peace with the Palestinians when they love their children more

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Speaker 2: than they hate us. That's what she said, the former

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Speaker 2: Prime Minister of Israel.

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Speaker 3: She was right. You should have been on this weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: Now you've got Democrats saying, well, well, fund the TSA.

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Speaker 3: Why won't you just fund the TSA.

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Speaker 2: We're ready to fund the TSA, but they won't fund DICE,

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Speaker 2: they won't fund the other things, And so you should

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Speaker 2: have been pitting this on them weeks ago, hang this

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Speaker 2: around their neck and forcing them to play defense on

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Speaker 2: their clear hate for Trump over all things.

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Speaker 3: It's not that I mind this talk. That this talk

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Speaker 3: needs to be far more aggressive than it is.

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Speaker 10: And since they shut down DHS now over a month ago,

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Speaker 10: we've heard nothing but political posturing from Democrat leaders. They're

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Speaker 10: not serious about this. The answer is simple. They don't

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Speaker 10: want of fun homeland security. They don't want to do it.

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Speaker 10: They're perfectly content jeopardizing the security of our homeland and

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Speaker 10: hurting the American people if it means protecting criminal, illegal aliens.

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Speaker 10: And there is no other way to explain this. Democrats

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Speaker 10: have made that conscious decision repeatedly.

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Speaker 8: You know them by their actions.

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Speaker 10: They're doing it again. In the fall, they shut down

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Speaker 10: the government to try to give taxpayer funded benefits to

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Speaker 10: illegal aliens. And now they've shut down the government once

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Speaker 10: again to reopen our borders and shield criminal aliens from

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Speaker 10: our own laws. The American people are not on board

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Speaker 10: with this. They're not going to have broken policies. They're

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Speaker 10: not going to have us return to that.

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Speaker 2: No, the correct answer is Democrats are trying to get

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Speaker 2: American kids killed. No Coastguard safety and security. We've got

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Speaker 2: four hour lines at airports. They don't even want the

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Speaker 2: kids to see Grahama for spring break. What's wrong with

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Speaker 2: these people? Why can't they just be normal and put

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Speaker 2: americans interests ahead.

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Speaker 3: Of their own power for a day.

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Speaker 2: Is it too much to ask that Americans can go

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Speaker 2: on spring break without being inconvenience because Democrats need more power.

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Speaker 3: It's shameful, disgusting and wrong. I'm discussing messaging. This is

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Speaker 3: the start. This should have been weeks ago, and I

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Speaker 3: don't know if this is going to be enough. Note

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Speaker 3: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Kats Today.

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Speaker 2: Find everything at tonykats dot com. So we have data

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Speaker 2: that shows real successes on the ground in Iran, and

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Speaker 2: I have been very clear that I am supportive of

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Speaker 2: taking out the Iranian regime and ending the terrorism.

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Speaker 3: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, Good to be here, Good

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Speaker 3: to be with you.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Chuck to Vour of the Texas Public Policy

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Speaker 2: of Foundation. We see and I agree with you as

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Speaker 2: you are discussing it incredible successes from the United States

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Speaker 2: and the Israelis and taking out the Iranian regime. And

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Speaker 2: while the administration won't refer to it as regime change,

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Speaker 2: ala who administration won't refer to it as regime change.

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Speaker 3: I only discuss it as regime change.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe we should ever be in a conversation

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Speaker 2: that isn't we should be in conversations about what is

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Speaker 2: the administration. The Trump administration will say that this is

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Speaker 2: to give the Iranian people the opportunity to engage regime change.

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Speaker 2: I think it's okay to refer to it as regime change.

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Speaker 2: I think people find that off putting. I think it

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Speaker 2: is more clarifying with than anything else, and people can

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Speaker 2: agree or disagree with me as they choose.

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Speaker 3: But let us get into.

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Speaker 2: The latest news today, which is the taking out by

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Speaker 2: Israeli forces of one of the leaders in Iran.

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Speaker 3: They took out Ali.

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Speaker 2: Larijani, the Iranian security chief who just was it a

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Speaker 2: week ago, was out there on social media on the

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Speaker 2: Twitter saying we defy the US and you can't bother

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Speaker 2: us and we're never going to capitulate. And now he's gone.

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Speaker 2: But we have a lot of people I will personally

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Speaker 2: call out Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut, all call out

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Speaker 2: Congressman Rocanna. I'm sorry, Rocanna of California, where you served

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Speaker 2: in the California General Assembly. There are people on the

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Speaker 2: woke right who all want to make this claim that

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Speaker 2: it's twofold, we're losing and we have no business of

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Speaker 2: being there. Israel dragged us into this war. I want

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Speaker 2: to break down this. You know, some people will call

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Speaker 2: it a syap. I would rather say when you don't.

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Speaker 2: When when you hate Trump and when you have an

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Speaker 2: ideological belief, it sometimes hard to see the rest of

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Speaker 2: the field clearly. Let's start with Senator Chris Murphy, Let's

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Speaker 2: start with Representative Rocanna. Let's start with people like Chris

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Speaker 2: van Holland out of Maryland. This concept that we are

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Speaker 2: losing this war. This was absolutely unnecessary. What an awful mistake.

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Speaker 2: We had no plan going in. Talk to me about

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Speaker 2: battle plans and talk to me about where their conversation

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Speaker 2: since come from and what the value of them are.

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Speaker 8: Yeah. So, first of all, regarding battle plans, I mean,

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Speaker 8: the US does nothing but plan constantly, whether in peace

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Speaker 8: time or wartime. I've been privileged to be part of

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Speaker 8: that planning on a tactical and a strategic level. When

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Speaker 8: I was a twenty four to twenty five year old

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Speaker 8: Reagan appointing in the Pentagon, I spent a week in

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Speaker 8: the basement helping to plan an aspect of what eventually

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Speaker 8: became Operation Praying Mantis in nineteen eighty eight, which was

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Speaker 8: at the time the US Navy's largest surface action since

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Speaker 8: World War Two, likely eclipsed by recent action, although of

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Speaker 8: course a lot of the current sinkings have been by

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Speaker 8: missiles and stand off weapons. So first of all, the

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Speaker 8: US military has planned for all these contingencies endlessly, branch plans, sequels.

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Speaker 8: They were prepared, They knew what they were doing. That's

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Speaker 8: number one. Number two. I suppose you could say that

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Speaker 8: the main critics, mostly on the left but some on

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Speaker 8: the right, that are saying that we're losing, are simply

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Speaker 8: reacting to the fact that there has not yet been

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Speaker 8: a formal regime change in Iran. Now I would argue

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Speaker 8: that there has been regime change. I simply ask yourself,

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Speaker 8: who is the leader of Iran today and who is

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Speaker 8: the leader of Iran twenty one days ago. Oh, it's different.

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Speaker 8: And then with regards Ali Larry Johnny, You know, many

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Speaker 8: people were thinking that he was in fact the de

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Speaker 8: facto leader, because of course we have not seen the

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Speaker 8: new Supreme Leader at all since that very first night

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Speaker 8: of strikes, so you know, he may be ours to combat,

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Speaker 8: so he may be out of the picture anyway. So

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Speaker 8: has there been functional regime change? Yes, there has been

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Speaker 8: functional regime change. Are the people of Iran in charge

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Speaker 8: of their own destiny yet?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 8: Not yet? Are they closer to that day? I believe

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Speaker 8: they are. And so then when you look at, for example,

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Speaker 8: the progress of this campaign and you look at the

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Speaker 8: you know, how many aircraft, how many aircrew have been

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Speaker 8: lost to enemy fire?

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Speaker 3: None?

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Speaker 8: Right, we had the three fifteen's near the very beginning

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Speaker 8: of the conflict shot down by friendly fire by Kuwait.

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Speaker 8: Very natural, dangerous thing to happen. You know, you have

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Speaker 8: a language barrier, you have training and doctrine barriers. Communications

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Speaker 8: obviously those things get worked out. Then you have the

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Speaker 8: tragic loss of the KC one thirty five crew that

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Speaker 8: were over friendly territory. Again, very dangerous operations. I've been

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Speaker 8: up in a KC ten tanker at night refueling a

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Speaker 8: tens and a six attack aircraft. It was a fascinating thing.

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Speaker 8: I got to be back in the tail boom and

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Speaker 8: watch the different aircraft come up. They come out of

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01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:51,240
Speaker 8: nowhere at night, right, especially on a moonless night, you

1522
01:36:51,320 --> 01:36:53,519
Speaker 8: see nothing that all of a sudden, you see this

1523
01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:57,719
Speaker 8: aircraft that's like two hundred feet away, you know, taking

1524
01:36:57,760 --> 01:37:00,479
Speaker 8: in you know, ten thousand pounds a few or something.

1525
01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:03,600
Speaker 8: It's just amazing to watch. So, you know, that's a

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01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:06,320
Speaker 8: difficult thing to do. That we trained for all the time.

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Speaker 8: So if you look at the losses we've suffered, and

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Speaker 8: if you look at the decline and the rate of

1529
01:37:11,240 --> 01:37:14,519
Speaker 8: incoming missiles and drones, you have to conclude that it's

1530
01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:18,800
Speaker 8: been nothing but a spectacular success. Is the regime writ

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01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:24,400
Speaker 8: large still in charge nominally? Are they barely hanging on? Probably?

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01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:27,599
Speaker 8: Are things going to look a lot different in two months?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: I think they will.

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Speaker 2: The woke right, which is now Tucker Carlson and Canda

1536
01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:45,200
Speaker 2: Sowans and Megan Kelly and others, this should never have happened.

1537
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:48,680
Speaker 2: We should not be in this position. And they'll do

1538
01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:54,960
Speaker 2: two things. They'll talk about forever wars, this buzzword, and

1539
01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:57,240
Speaker 2: then they'll say, well, you know, the Israeli has dragged

1540
01:37:57,280 --> 01:37:59,400
Speaker 2: us into this. Now, if you follow my social media feed,

1541
01:37:59,800 --> 01:38:02,880
Speaker 2: the new allegation is I am paid by Masad, but

1542
01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:05,240
Speaker 2: not as much as other people because I'm not as popular.

1543
01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:08,439
Speaker 2: So I'm getting Massade money, but I'm not getting the

1544
01:38:08,479 --> 01:38:11,439
Speaker 2: real Massad money, which by the way, infuriates me to

1545
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:14,200
Speaker 2: no end, because if someone's going to pretend I'm getting paid,

1546
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:16,439
Speaker 2: I would like for them to pretend I'm getting paid

1547
01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:16,960
Speaker 2: all the.

1548
01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:24,439
Speaker 3: Dollars and not some sliver exchange in their make belief fantasy.

1549
01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:26,519
Speaker 3: I would like to think of myself as a big shot.

1550
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:30,800
Speaker 2: But this is this is the argument, right, I disagree

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01:38:30,800 --> 01:38:33,800
Speaker 2: with what's happening, so therefore you're paid.

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01:38:33,320 --> 01:38:33,519
Speaker 8: You know.

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01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:35,800
Speaker 2: It's it's this argument of whether or not Tucker Carlson's

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01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:37,680
Speaker 2: getting paid by Cutter or Qatar, however you want to

1555
01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:38,240
Speaker 2: pronounce it.

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01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:39,280
Speaker 3: My answer is I.

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01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:42,280
Speaker 2: Have absolutely no idea until you show me some data,

1558
01:38:42,320 --> 01:38:43,439
Speaker 2: otherwise leave me be.

1559
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Speaker 3: I can't throw that into my thoughts.

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01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:52,360
Speaker 2: But this response of Israel dragged us into this. How

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01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:57,760
Speaker 2: do people who have a military background, military leaders the

1562
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:00,400
Speaker 2: people like yourself, and certainly it's it's it's never going

1563
01:39:00,439 --> 01:39:03,960
Speaker 2: to be one hundred percent how does this get viewed

1564
01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:06,120
Speaker 2: and what is the purpose of this argument? Do you

1565
01:39:06,160 --> 01:39:11,360
Speaker 2: think that there's any any kernel of truth or historical

1566
01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:12,280
Speaker 2: connection to it?

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Speaker 8: Right? So, I mean, of course, if you go back

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01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:18,479
Speaker 8: some you know, one hundred years, ninety years, you had

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Speaker 8: Smedley Butler this I think he was a Marine Corps

1570
01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:25,320
Speaker 8: veteran of World War One who claimed that it was

1571
01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:29,559
Speaker 8: all you know, the industrialists that were promoting war and

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01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:32,439
Speaker 8: was a big part of the isolationist movement of the

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Speaker 8: twenties and thirties. So there's always been this strain in

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01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:38,479
Speaker 8: American thought, and there always will be. But let's go

1575
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Speaker 8: back and look at some of the things that you

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01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:44,639
Speaker 8: laid out. First of all, this concept that Israel somehow

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01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 8: dragged us into this. There has recently been uncovered video

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01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:53,680
Speaker 8: of Donald Trump going clear back to the eighties, in

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01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:56,880
Speaker 8: just a few years after the Islamic Revolution took over

1580
01:39:56,920 --> 01:39:59,840
Speaker 8: in nineteen seventy nine, saying that we're going to have

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Speaker 8: to do deal with Iran, that Iran is our enemy.

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01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:03,919
Speaker 8: We're going to have to You know, if I was president,

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Speaker 8: I would have done it differently. I would have taken

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01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:10,040
Speaker 8: them out. Okay, So you have that from Donald Trump

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01:40:10,040 --> 01:40:13,240
Speaker 8: when he was merely a moderately high profile real estate

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01:40:13,240 --> 01:40:18,400
Speaker 8: developer in the eighties, and he's consistently said that every

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01:40:18,479 --> 01:40:24,559
Speaker 8: decade since, years before he ever became president. So any

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01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:28,480
Speaker 8: thought that someone with the personality the force of personality

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01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:32,320
Speaker 8: that Donald J. Trump has somehow being led around by

1590
01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:36,960
Speaker 8: the nose by the Israelis is just ridiculous on its face.

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01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:40,800
Speaker 8: So let's set that aside. Now let's talk about a

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01:40:40,840 --> 01:40:44,240
Speaker 8: couple other aspects of this. The Forever Wars. You know,

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01:40:44,479 --> 01:40:48,599
Speaker 8: there is some concern, there is some legitimate credibility about that.

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01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:51,960
Speaker 8: I mean, I was a critic consistently of the way

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01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:56,320
Speaker 8: we were going about fighting in Afghanistan in Iraq. I'm

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01:40:56,360 --> 01:40:59,479
Speaker 8: a fan of the punitive expedition. If you are wronged

1597
01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:02,880
Speaker 8: or armed by somebody, you go in, you kill them,

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01:41:03,000 --> 01:41:06,000
Speaker 8: you leave their heads on pikes as warnings to others,

1599
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:08,559
Speaker 8: and then you leave, and the fact that you may

1600
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:10,800
Speaker 8: have messed things up in that country does not incur

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01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:13,160
Speaker 8: upon you a moral obligation to go back and make

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01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:17,000
Speaker 8: it somehow as nice as the fifty first US state. No,

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01:41:17,120 --> 01:41:20,360
Speaker 8: you leave the wreckage as a warning to others. There's

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01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:24,120
Speaker 8: a big difference between a putative expedition and nation building,

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01:41:24,160 --> 01:41:26,559
Speaker 8: which is what we got involved in through what I

1606
01:41:26,680 --> 01:41:30,080
Speaker 8: believe to be terrible hubris, terrible arrogance on our part,

1607
01:41:30,479 --> 01:41:34,720
Speaker 8: that we could go in and somehow transplant this pluralistic,

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01:41:35,160 --> 01:41:41,040
Speaker 8: a rule of law republic concepts into this tribal, ancient

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01:41:41,520 --> 01:41:45,240
Speaker 8: land of hatreds known as Afghanistan. What a fool's erin,

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01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:49,439
Speaker 8: you know, trillions of dollars, thousands of lives lost, and

1611
01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:53,040
Speaker 8: tens of thousands of people injured later and then we

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01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:55,960
Speaker 8: leave with our tail between our legs and we see

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01:41:55,960 --> 01:42:01,200
Speaker 8: the government fall instantaneously and emboldened putin to THENDE Ukraine

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01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:03,920
Speaker 8: the very next year. Now, I warned that this would

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01:42:03,960 --> 01:42:06,679
Speaker 8: be the case clearback Tony in two thousand and nine

1616
01:42:07,080 --> 01:42:09,280
Speaker 8: when I was running for the US Senate in California,

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Speaker 8: and the San Francisco Chronicle asked me and Carly Fiorina

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Speaker 8: to comment on Obama's speech, and I warned that what

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Speaker 8: we were doing in Afghanistan would not work and that

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01:42:18,680 --> 01:42:21,360
Speaker 8: the government would fall soon after we left. And I

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01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:24,639
Speaker 8: was accused by Carly Fiorina's people being soft on terror,

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01:42:24,920 --> 01:42:26,400
Speaker 8: And what did I say that we needed to do

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Speaker 8: with the money we saved to recapitalize our military, to

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Speaker 8: deter the resurgence of China and a revanchist Islamic Republic

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Speaker 8: of Iran. And so I certainly think that I was

1626
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:43,439
Speaker 8: right on the money there. Now there was one last

1627
01:42:43,439 --> 01:42:48,040
Speaker 8: aspect of it, and that is antisemitism. Anti Semitism has

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01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:51,080
Speaker 8: of course been with us for at least a couple

1629
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Speaker 8: thousand years, if not longer. And what you find is

1630
01:42:55,200 --> 01:42:58,160
Speaker 8: that some people, of course are genuinely just burning with

1631
01:42:58,200 --> 01:43:00,880
Speaker 8: their hatred for the Jewish people. But there's a whole

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01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:05,479
Speaker 8: other class of people for whom conspiracy theories are a

1633
01:43:05,479 --> 01:43:09,040
Speaker 8: good way of kind of explaining away. You know, there's

1634
01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:11,719
Speaker 8: circumstances in life. You know that you didn't get the promotion,

1635
01:43:12,640 --> 01:43:15,559
Speaker 8: you still rent, you don't own a home, You know

1636
01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:19,600
Speaker 8: your wife left you. You know things are bad. It

1637
01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:23,840
Speaker 8: must be the Jews fault, right, something other than the

1638
01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:28,040
Speaker 8: fact that you lack ambition or intelligence or whatever to

1639
01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:32,240
Speaker 8: take care of yourself. And so you often see conspiracy

1640
01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:36,719
Speaker 8: theories is this refuge for those who aren't doing so well.

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01:43:37,520 --> 01:43:39,880
Speaker 8: And so I think that you have a combination of

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01:43:39,920 --> 01:43:42,439
Speaker 8: all of these factors. There's no one factor that I

1643
01:43:42,479 --> 01:43:44,840
Speaker 8: think is predominant. But you know what's going to be

1644
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:47,880
Speaker 8: interesting at the end of the day, Tony when this

1645
01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:50,920
Speaker 8: ends up being a historic victory on the scale of

1646
01:43:50,960 --> 01:43:53,519
Speaker 8: the fall of the Berlin Wall in nineteen eighty nine

1647
01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:57,040
Speaker 8: and the subsequent collapse of the Soviet Union in nineteen

1648
01:43:57,120 --> 01:44:00,920
Speaker 8: ninety one. I think that we're going to look back

1649
01:44:00,960 --> 01:44:03,639
Speaker 8: and maybe try to cover up some of their social

1650
01:44:03,720 --> 01:44:07,760
Speaker 8: media history and maybe make a few discreete deletions and

1651
01:44:08,360 --> 01:44:11,559
Speaker 8: do some revision. You know, I was behind Trump all along.

1652
01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:15,519
Speaker 2: That involves people having shame in today's world, and that's

1653
01:44:16,240 --> 01:44:17,320
Speaker 2: that just doesn't happen.

1654
01:44:17,640 --> 01:44:18,519
Speaker 3: Chuck de vorr.

1655
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Speaker 2: Texas Public Policy Foundation. I appreciate you taking the time

1656
01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:24,800
Speaker 2: to be with us. More is coming up on Tony

1657
01:44:24,840 --> 01:44:28,040
Speaker 2: Katz and this is Tony Kats today, and of course

1658
01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:33,280
Speaker 2: being Saint Patrick's Day. How could one possibly celebrate a

1659
01:44:33,439 --> 01:44:38,080
Speaker 2: fantastic day, a day that brings people together and they

1660
01:44:38,160 --> 01:44:40,680
Speaker 2: share a drink and they have a good time. And

1661
01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:44,599
Speaker 2: how can you celebrate Saint Patrick's Day and remember the

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01:44:44,640 --> 01:44:49,360
Speaker 2: patriot saint without of course a mention of genocide.

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Speaker 11: I say this is over the past few years, as

1664
01:44:52,960 --> 01:44:55,280
Speaker 11: we've witnessed a genocide unfold before our eyes.

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01:44:55,320 --> 01:44:55,960
Speaker 3: There has been.

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Speaker 11: Deafening silence from so many for those who have long

1667
01:44:58,720 --> 01:45:01,160
Speaker 11: cared about universal human rights and the extension of them

1668
01:45:01,200 --> 01:45:06,200
Speaker 11: to Palestinians. Silence, however, is nothing new, for Palestinians are

1669
01:45:06,200 --> 01:45:09,759
Speaker 11: so often left to weep alone. Yet former President Robinson

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01:45:09,760 --> 01:45:12,559
Speaker 11: has never been silent, not when she was president, not

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01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:14,960
Speaker 11: when she was High Commissioner for Human Rights, and not

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Speaker 11: in the decades since. As she once said, commemoration is

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01:45:18,920 --> 01:45:19,920
Speaker 11: a moral act.

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01:45:20,600 --> 01:45:23,400
Speaker 2: Something tells me, if you're ever pronounced the High Commissioner

1675
01:45:23,400 --> 01:45:26,760
Speaker 2: of anything, chances are you're a bad person. The High

1676
01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:30,160
Speaker 2: Commissioner for whatever it is, I assume always is a

1677
01:45:30,160 --> 01:45:33,719
Speaker 2: bond villain. But this is this is a Saint Patrick's

1678
01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:37,920
Speaker 2: Day celebration, and he of course needs to lie. I

1679
01:45:38,520 --> 01:45:40,920
Speaker 2: not somebody who is going to be told I have

1680
01:45:40,960 --> 01:45:46,280
Speaker 2: to have sympathy for Hamas sympathy for a terrorist organization

1681
01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:49,679
Speaker 2: is super weird, and the idea that the Israelis can't

1682
01:45:49,720 --> 01:45:50,400
Speaker 2: fight back.

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01:45:50,240 --> 01:45:52,280
Speaker 3: Against it is super weird.

1684
01:45:52,760 --> 01:45:54,920
Speaker 2: And you could argue, well, then the Palestinians could fight

1685
01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:55,559
Speaker 2: back against it.

1686
01:45:55,600 --> 01:45:57,519
Speaker 3: Go right ahead, I think they lost.

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Speaker 2: I had made this argument early on after October seventh,

1688
01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:11,559
Speaker 2: where I support Israel, destroying, destroying hamas, and destroying any

1689
01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:16,240
Speaker 2: part of the regime that allows their funding. But I said,

1690
01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:19,439
Speaker 2: if it's somehow wrong to take the side of Israel,

1691
01:46:19,880 --> 01:46:21,040
Speaker 2: how about nobody takes a side.

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Speaker 3: Let them fight it out. Why are we even thinking

1693
01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:26,240
Speaker 3: about it. Let's stop thinking about it, let's stop discussing it.

1694
01:46:26,360 --> 01:46:27,080
Speaker 3: Let them fight it out.

1695
01:46:27,120 --> 01:46:28,599
Speaker 2: There's gonna be a winner, there's gonna be a loser.

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01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:30,240
Speaker 2: And that's just the way it is. It's the law

1697
01:46:30,280 --> 01:46:33,559
Speaker 2: of the jungle baby, it's just nature. One's gonna win

1698
01:46:33,600 --> 01:46:35,880
Speaker 2: and one's gonna lose. We all stay out of it.

1699
01:46:36,200 --> 01:46:39,360
Speaker 2: No one gets funded another dime. Israel doesn't get any

1700
01:46:39,400 --> 01:46:42,040
Speaker 2: more foreign aid, and the Palace idiots don't get any

1701
01:46:42,080 --> 01:46:45,479
Speaker 2: more money from UNRA, the United Nations Reliefs Work Agency,

1702
01:46:45,680 --> 01:46:48,280
Speaker 2: where people were getting outrageous amounts of money. No, no, no,

1703
01:46:48,400 --> 01:46:51,200
Speaker 2: let them fight it out. Who's gonna win.

1704
01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:56,160
Speaker 3: And that's where you learned very quickly that this wasn't

1705
01:46:56,280 --> 01:46:59,960
Speaker 3: about staying out of it. This was about going out

1706
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:00,920
Speaker 3: after Israel for.

1707
01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:05,440
Speaker 2: Their existence and somehow claiming that the Palestinians.

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01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:06,679
Speaker 3: Have some kind of morality on their side.

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01:47:07,080 --> 01:47:10,639
Speaker 2: I don't buy into that, knowing that hostages were held and.

1710
01:47:10,479 --> 01:47:14,440
Speaker 3: They got no help. No one cared that they were hostages.

1711
01:47:15,400 --> 01:47:20,760
Speaker 2: There was cheering of their capture and cheering of their subjugation.

1712
01:47:22,160 --> 01:47:25,800
Speaker 2: There has never been a genocide from Israel towards name.

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01:47:25,880 --> 01:47:31,320
Speaker 2: The group just didn't happen. It's a debunked lie again

1714
01:47:31,479 --> 01:47:36,120
Speaker 2: and again and again. But liars like Zarnmondani means bad

1715
01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:40,280
Speaker 2: guys on American guys. They'll keep pushing it and we

1716
01:47:40,320 --> 01:47:41,840
Speaker 2: gotta just keep fighting it.

1717
01:47:41,840 --> 01:47:44,599
Speaker 3: It's gross, but it's true. Find everything at Tony Katz

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Speaker 3: dot com tomorrow. Everyone, take care