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Speaker 2: The indictment of James Comy couldn't have happened to a

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Speaker 2: Was James Comy indicted? He was indicted for lying to

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Speaker 3: That James Comey is indicted.

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Speaker 2: On these two counts, that he is indicted for lying,

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Speaker 2: This was what's her name, Caitlin Collins, who shockingly and

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Speaker 4: Breaking News, and we are following major breaking news tonight

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Speaker 4: is former FBI Director James Comy is now the first

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Speaker 4: senior government official to face charges in one of President

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Speaker 4: Trump's biggest grievances, the twenty sixteen Russia investigation.

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Speaker 2: He was indicted because of grievances. That's that's not factual

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Speaker 2: at all. He was indicted because of lines at Congress

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Speaker 2: But it seems that the data shows differently. Look I've

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Speaker 2: said this before, I'll say it again. I can't start

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Speaker 2: But this is the issue one of Donald Trump's grievances.

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Speaker 5: Comy is charged with giving a false statement an obstruction

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Speaker 5: before the Senate Judiciary Committee five years ago. This indictment

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Speaker 2: First, the story here would seem to me that there

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Speaker 2: did James Komy lie to Congress? Yes or no?

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Speaker 2: And when you tell me I don't know, then the

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Speaker 3: Let's be the people who find out.

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Speaker 2: Because the reporting of people like Catherine Heritage, who I

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Speaker 2: James Comy himself, I find him to be an extraordinarily

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Speaker 6: My family and I have known for years that there

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Speaker 6: But I'm not afraid, and I hope you're not either.

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Speaker 2: I did, A lot of us did. He is a

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Speaker 2: man of remarkable hubris. Is hubris the right word? He's

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Speaker 7: Then, can victim bar him from future service? Have the prosecutors,

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Speaker 7: Lock him up for the garden riding Florence he did there,

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Speaker 7: But don't give him that center stage, that dominant role

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Speaker 2: Right, Biden did a great job of healing the nation,

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Speaker 2: Trump for things done as president, that's not his argument.

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Speaker 7: Convict him, bar him from future service. Have the prosecutors,

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Speaker 2: So how far back James Comy did you think they

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Speaker 2: you the crime. And now he wants to tell us

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Speaker 2: how pious he is. Gentlemen, fathers, mothers, ladies, do not

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Speaker 2: Is that something that he can be found guilty for? Well,

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Speaker 8: You do this, you turn the person you hate into

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Speaker 8: people behind them. Donald Trump understood this in his own

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Speaker 2: Allow me to explain why Joe Scarborough is wrong. In

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Speaker 2: the idea that the political left can take James Comy

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Speaker 3: A cause celeb.

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Speaker 2: Into this. Look at this poor man who has sacrificed

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Speaker 2: we turn this into political power? You want one of

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Speaker 2: the great examples of someone utilized. Oh what a martyr,

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Speaker 3: You gotta like a martyr.

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Speaker 2: Martyrs don't do thats like fathers, like men, and not

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Speaker 2: He is a guy who lied to Congress. And I

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Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today. Is this

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Speaker 2: All right? I think the stop what you're doing, Tony Katz,

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Speaker 2: Tony kats today? All right? Finger on the dumb button?

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, she did her own audiobook. No she didn't.

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Speaker 2: Is she insane? First, I have done a couple of

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Speaker 3: I'm not happy with her.

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Speaker 2: The books I did miltont Lore Militant Normals, and I

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Speaker 9: To her he fought through his cold as he is

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Speaker 10: I thought I.

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Speaker 3: Threw the paperback on the table.

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Speaker 9: Then Michael Tyler, Biden's campaign communications director, called from Atlanta,

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Speaker 9: with a similar account of what they expected me to say. No,

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Speaker 2: All with them.

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Speaker 3: Ah, yeah, we got it.

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Speaker 2: You knew it was coming. You knew it. That's why

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Speaker 2: you're prepared. That's producer Landon Earn, and it's keep don't

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Speaker 2: feed me bs is what she said. How much of

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Speaker 2: did her own audiobook? Oh oh, listen, I don't want

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you. If she's going full scorched earth, if

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Speaker 3: I might tell me.

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Speaker 2: No, I can't. I can't. I cannot give her my money.

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Speaker 2: But now I have to see what happens. What happens

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Speaker 2: in a delusional mind that goes scorts shirts? What is

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Speaker 2: that like? Even Hunter S. Thompson's like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 3: Trippy flipping the pages.

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Speaker 2: Kathleen in the chatroom says, I can do it because

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Speaker 2: it's for research purposes, you know what. That might satisfy

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Speaker 3: I'm got to think about this. Keep it here. This

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Speaker 3: is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: There's a story of this city county councilor in Oklahoma,

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Speaker 2: the city council i should say, in Oklahoma, who resigned,

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Speaker 2: with you. From the local reporting there. In Oklahoma City

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Speaker 11: Five, councilwoman Bree Montoya was interacting with someone on Facebook,

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Speaker 2: I saw that she was a city council member within

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Speaker 2: I can't believe an elected official would talk like that online.

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Speaker 11: Abbot, referring to this exchange she had with now former

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Speaker 2: H very, very dark. The comments were open a vein

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Speaker 2: pull the trigger. I'll take things I've never said to

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Speaker 3: For five hundred alecs. People are messed up.

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Speaker 2: They cannot control themselves in any way, shape or form.

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Speaker 2: They're not even trying to control themselves. And then this

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Speaker 3: Ear darker in various capacities.

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Speaker 12: I have served this community since two thousand and eight,

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Speaker 12: and I am ready to pursue other interests, effective immediately.

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Speaker 12: I am resigning as council member for word three. Thank

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Speaker 11: Montoya resigned Justice Tuesday, but to our surprise, we learned

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Speaker 2: That's the craziest part of that story. Everyone thinks of

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Speaker 2: this is all now, and this is all post the

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Speaker 2: assassination of Charlie Kirk. It's an example of just how

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Speaker 2: long even though that's just a few months how normalized,

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Speaker 2: normalized it is to engage in this way against people

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Speaker 3: This is normal now.

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Speaker 2: If you say to me, Tony, it happens the other way, Well,

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Speaker 2: let's discuss it that way. It's still getting normalized, and

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Speaker 2: it is obscene. And when you see elected officials do that,

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Speaker 2: from the elected official. Then there was this story. Oh,

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Speaker 2: there's like so many stories that have been like so

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Speaker 2: Solomon over at justinnews dot com. The FBI secretly deployed

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Speaker 2: more than two hundred and fifty plane clothes agents to

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Speaker 2: the US capital during the January sixth, twenty twenty one riot,

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Speaker 3: What were they doing there? What were they doing in there?

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Speaker 2: Why were they there in January sixth? Were they trying

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Speaker 2: to Okay, we engage this part of the plan. Now

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Speaker 2: often looking at these videos of people who lose their

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Speaker 2: And if law enforcement doesn't like what I have to say,

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Speaker 2: come let's watch the same videos. We're not talking about

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Speaker 2: quote unquote de escalation business. And I have seen a

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Speaker 2: They finally get them, some dude, and all they're doing

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Speaker 2: We're going to do like they handle themselves beautifully. But

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Speaker 3: What were these.

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Speaker 2: FBI agents doing there? And it is that the role

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Speaker 2: of the FBI? What were you investigating January sixth, twenty

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Speaker 2: were you investigating? That's the question I would like to know.

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Speaker 2: Then there is the shutdown, so we're clear the shutdown

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Speaker 2: is coming. The shutdown is coming, and Democrats will be

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Speaker 3: I thought this was going to hurt.

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Speaker 2: The people, right, you do this and you're you're hurting

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Speaker 2: the people. You said that at the last shutdown and

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Speaker 2: the shutdown before that, Chuck Schumer and the shutdown before that.

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Speaker 3: This is all that you said?

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Speaker 2: Or is the issue that going to the to the

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Speaker 2: to the last shutdown you were seen as caving and

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Speaker 2: can't do it on this one because you know that

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Speaker 2: if you run for reelection against Alexandria Cassio Cortez. You're

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Speaker 2: gonna lose, Chuck. Now. She may be thinking of higher office,

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Speaker 2: she may be thinking of running for president. Right, So

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Speaker 2: she may not be concerned with you, but you need

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Speaker 2: concerned about the fact that the shutdown is all on you,

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Speaker 2: Every bit of it is on you. Doesn't matter what

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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter what Akiem Jeffries says here.

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Speaker 13: There is nothing about this moment and the need to

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Speaker 2: That going up. Inflation is going up.

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Speaker 13: Life has become more expensive in the United States of

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Speaker 2: Congressman Jeffries, you're the leader of the Democrats in the House.

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Speaker 2: That conversation isn't going to stop the shutdown that you

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Speaker 2: They're not going to discuss this with you and not

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Speaker 3: They're running scared.

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Speaker 2: Trump's not sitting down with you, Congressman Jeffries, because you

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Speaker 2: For the sake of clarity, I would like a budget

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Speaker 2: So what I get instead is this the same old,

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Speaker 2: the shutdown is coming, and it's not coming. It means

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Speaker 2: If it shuts down, it's bad for Democrats. If it

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Speaker 2: doesn't shut down. It's just bad for Chuck. Now, let's

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Speaker 2: see if he puts the country before himself. I'm Tony

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Speaker 2: Katz and this it's Tony Katz today. The guy who

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Speaker 2: good to be with you. He had been planning this

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Speaker 2: DHS facilities.

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Speaker 3: There was planning, there was want, there was desire.

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Speaker 2: Everything we said, every single thing that we said where

439
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 2: we got pushedback from the left. Oh, you don't know this.

440
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Speaker 2: Oh you don't know that. Oh you don't know the other.

441
00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 2: Oh you're making that up and all that jazz. Now,

442
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 2: we had it. We had it, and we knew it.

443
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 2: And what we want is for them to keep going.

444
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Speaker 2: We absolutely want them to continue in doing the job.

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Speaker 2: This is what we voted for ten thousand percent. This

446
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Speaker 2: is what we voted for. Meanwhile, I think this is

447
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Speaker 2: can I risk it now? Producer landon an anti ice

448
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 2: crowd chanting, arrest ice and shoot ice. This is taking

449
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: place in Illinois. Toning down the rhetoric, who's kidding who?

450
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Speaker 2: If you ask where the line came from, the line

451
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Speaker 2: came from me, guys. You know, we talk often about

452
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Speaker 2: the fact that these people want to burn it all down,

453
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Speaker 2: and sometimes fullheartedly. People are are engaged in an idea, Well,

454
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Speaker 2: what are their politics? What is it that they believe?

455
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Speaker 2: What do they believe? They don't, They don't believe anything.

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Speaker 2: They're not asking you for your beliefs. They're asking you

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Speaker 2: if you brought matches.

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Speaker 3: They don't. Beliefs don't matter here.

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Speaker 2: And I'm going to get more into that. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: discuss more of that coming up in the in the

461
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Speaker 2: next hour, but we should at least state without question

462
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Speaker 2: that this guy wasn't trying to kill a detainee. He

463
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Speaker 2: was trying to kill ice agents. Then there's the CDC.

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Speaker 2: As we spoke to doctor Robert Malone yesterday. You can

465
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Speaker 2: find that interview there on the podcast wherever is you

466
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Speaker 2: get your podcasts, just look for Tony Kats today. You

467
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Speaker 2: also see it posted at tonycats dot com regarding Tilnall

468
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Speaker 2: and autism. And then there was a conversation about vaccine

469
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Speaker 2: recommendations as he sits on the Advisory Panel on Immunization

470
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Speaker 2: Practices for the CDC. And now we learned that the

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Speaker 2: CDC has taken down more than a dozen web pages

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Speaker 2: on sexual and gender identity and health equity. I'm just

473
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Speaker 2: upset that it took this long. I saw a video

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Speaker 2: where this young kid, maybe he was twenty, I mean,

475
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Speaker 2: he looked he looked young, and someone asked him how

476
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Speaker 2: many genders are there? And he said, well, there too,

477
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Speaker 2: there's male and female. And the woman interview and said, well,

478
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Speaker 2: what about all the people who say that there are

479
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Speaker 2: all these different genders? And he goes, well, there's male

480
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Speaker 2: and there's female, and there's an almost infinite number of

481
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Speaker 2: mental illnesses. I was like, bravo if you came up

482
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Speaker 2: with that line. Bravo, if you stole that line, give credit,

483
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Speaker 2: But also bravo who forever invented that line. There are

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Speaker 2: men and there are women, and any other conversation is

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Speaker 2: generics for you or mental illness.

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Speaker 3: And you don't have to hate those people, be angry

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Speaker 3: with those people.

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Speaker 2: You got to recognize what it is. The people who

489
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Speaker 2: are trying to convince children to mutilate themselves or mutilating

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Speaker 2: them those are the people.

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Speaker 3: You gotta deal with.

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Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 1: Line from ball Hartbeiner and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 3: It's Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: So we'll get more into the indictment of James Comy,

496
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Speaker 2: the surrendering a series of things to get to. But

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Speaker 2: I've been talking about the Transportation Secretary, Sean da Tony Katz,

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Speaker 2: Tony Kats today, great to be with. You find everything

499
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 2: at Tony kats dot com. Subscribe, be a part of it.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it if you would. I think Duffy is

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Speaker 2: the best so far of the cabinet picks. I know

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Speaker 2: he's not getting the most press. I'm not upset with Hegseth.

503
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Speaker 2: Certainly like what Rubio is doing. I think Bergram's been solid,

504
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Speaker 2: But Sean Duffy isn't searching out a camera. Sean Duffy

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Speaker 2: is getting work done. I'm not disparaging other members of

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Speaker 2: the cabinet. I am saying that there is a market

507
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Speaker 2: improvement and there is at least a focus going on

508
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Speaker 2: about our airlines, airports and now trucking. As Secretary Duffy

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Speaker 2: is there making this announcement.

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Speaker 14: Because we have a government system designed to keep American

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Speaker 14: families on the road safe, but that system has been compromised.

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about non.

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Speaker 14: Domicile the commercial driver's license that are issued across the country.

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Speaker 14: So when plain English This is a license to operate

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Speaker 14: a massive, eighty thousand pound truck that's being issued to

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Speaker 14: foreign drivers who are not US citizens or lawful permanent residents.

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Speaker 14: The process for issuing these licenses is absolutely one hundred

518
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Speaker 14: percent broken.

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Speaker 2: And that is about doing something that affects all of us,

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Speaker 2: because we're all on the roads. We saw that story

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Speaker 2: out of Florida where this guy makes this illegal U

522
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Speaker 2: turn and this minivan can't stop, slides underneath the trailer

523
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Speaker 2: of this eighteen wheeler. Everybody dies because this guy just

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Speaker 2: made a U turn right in the middle of everything.

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Speaker 2: How do you get the license? This is the kind

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Speaker 2: of subject that I don't mean this to be gross

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Speaker 2: or crude. That's not how I mean this. This is

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Speaker 2: the kind of subject, kind of topic that's totally unsexy.

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Speaker 2: But this is about how we live, About how your

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Speaker 2: spouse lives, about how your kids live, because they're on

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Speaker 2: the roads with these people. This kind of stuff matters.

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Speaker 2: This is nitty gritty kind of stuff. This is why

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Speaker 2: do we act this way and do these things. And

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Speaker 2: it's not only about us, What about are the truckers

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Speaker 2: on the road. I would love to hear shoot me

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Speaker 2: an email tonyatnikats dot com. How problematic are these types

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Speaker 2: of licenses for you in your field? Is the secretary

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Speaker 2: of just you know, barking up the wrong tree. I'm

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Speaker 2: not really a cliche guy, yet that one came out.

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Speaker 2: Is he pushing a subject that doesn't matter? Or is

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Speaker 2: this of paramount importance? I think this is an important subject.

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Speaker 14: Indeed, it has become a threat to public safety, and

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Speaker 14: it is a national emergency that requires action right now.

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Speaker 2: This isn't fear mongerene.

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Speaker 14: This is a serious business that entails American families.

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Speaker 2: And their lives.

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Speaker 14: So this year alone, a series of horrific fatal crashes

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Speaker 14: have been caused by dangerous, non domiciled CDL drivers. So

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Speaker 14: I want to go through a couple of examples. Pull

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Speaker 14: the first one up here. On March fourteenth, in Texas,

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Speaker 14: a truck driver failed to break and crashed into a

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Speaker 14: long line of traffic. This caused a seventeen vehicle pile up.

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Speaker 14: They killed five people, including two children, and eleven were hospitalized.

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Speaker 14: A post crash investigation revealed a history of unsafe lane changes,

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Speaker 14: ignoring traffic signs in multiple violations of hour of service rules.

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Speaker 2: That's just one and the Secretary, Sean Duffy, their transportation secretary.

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Speaker 2: The hits just keep on coming.

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Speaker 14: I want to go to two here. On May sixth

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Speaker 14: and Alabama, a driver with less than six weeks of

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Speaker 14: experience slammed his tractor and trailer into four vehicles stopped

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Speaker 14: at a red light.

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Speaker 2: He killed two people and he injured four.

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Speaker 14: He had previously failed his skills test for speeding, speeding

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Speaker 14: and the skills test. The crash occurred on just his

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Speaker 14: third day of employment with his carrier. And my third example, this,

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Speaker 14: of course, was the fatal car crash in Florida earlier

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Speaker 14: this summer.

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Speaker 2: And many in the media had reported on that.

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Speaker 3: You just heard me talk about that.

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Speaker 2: This is the kind of stuff that doesn't get love.

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Speaker 2: This is kind of stuff that.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't get the front page.

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Speaker 2: But this is the kind of stuff that even more

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Speaker 2: affects us on a daily basis, or we could argue

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Speaker 2: at least equally affects us. But because it's not sexy,

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Speaker 2: you can't get a headline with it. The guys who

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Speaker 2: have the power to do something about it don't really

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00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 2: because they want to chase the headline and chase uh

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Speaker 2: look at the look at the press that I'm getting.

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Speaker 2: I like Sean Duffy. I like what's happening here. I

581
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Speaker 2: like the seriousness, I like the work. This is an

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Speaker 2: important subject and I'm thank I'm thankful he's doing it.

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Speaker 2: I've said this already. I'm already on record. I think

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Speaker 2: he's been the most impressive in the position so far,

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Speaker 2: because he was the one I knew the least about

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Speaker 2: so far.

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Speaker 3: So very good for all of us. This is Tony

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Speaker 3: kats today.

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Speaker 2: So benjaminette Ya who comes to the United Nations to

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Speaker 2: speak to the United Nations and then people walked out

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Speaker 2: because it's Israel, and you know they're standing on some

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Speaker 2: kind of moral ground. Sure believe what you will, Tony Katz,

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz today, Good to be with you. I caught

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Speaker 2: this article from David Harsanyi over at the New York Post.

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Speaker 2: Gen Z's catual anti Semitism is growing seated by influencers

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Speaker 2: like Tucker Carlson.

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Speaker 3: People are going to.

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Speaker 2: Complete these two things, and I don't think they should

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Speaker 2: put them in their separate silos, because this goes to

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Speaker 2: a conversation. And man, they got Dennis Prager on video

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Speaker 2: talking about this. You know, Dennis Prager had this radio

602
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Speaker 2: host good Man had this accident that left him unable

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Speaker 2: to move and for a long time, months and months

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Speaker 2: unable to speak. But he is speaking now and his

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Speaker 2: mind never left him. And he was discussing that this

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Speaker 2: very idea of criticizing Israel. And the answer is, why

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Speaker 2: in the world could you not criticize Israel? Criticizing Israel

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Speaker 2: is not necessarily an act of anti Semitism, And I

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Speaker 2: believe this. I state this. And the point is when

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Speaker 2: people come to me and say, well, why can't I

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Speaker 2: criticize this, I'm like, go right ahead, I'll start. How

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Speaker 2: does this country not have a constitution? How in the

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Speaker 2: world do you have a Supreme court that makes decisions

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Speaker 2: based on the concept of reasonableness? Is the legislation in

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Speaker 2: question reasonable? Oh? Holy hell, there's no way to run

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Speaker 2: a society. That's crazy town. You can't run a society

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Speaker 2: that way, no way, it's insane. You want to talk

618
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 2: about their COVID policy, a big, hot, ridiculous mess, and

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Speaker 2: you want to discuss the fact that they fell asleep

620
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Speaker 2: on the job and allowed Jamas to engage this attack.

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Speaker 2: See how easy that is. But the idea that Israel's

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Speaker 2: committing a genocide by taking out Jumas. Hamas is everywhere

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Speaker 2: throughout Gaza, every single part of it, and Palestinians know

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Speaker 2: where they are, and many of them do nothing except

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Speaker 2: support Hamas. We forget that the second wave of attack

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Speaker 2: from October seventh was the Palestinians, not just Hamas.

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Speaker 3: It's so clear and obvious.

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Speaker 2: To anybody who who has gotten out of the mindset

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Speaker 2: of the CNN, MSNBC, Young Turk's News that there's a

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Speaker 2: real issue here with the people themselves. And yes, they're

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Speaker 2: innocent people being killed, just like they were innocent people

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Speaker 2: on October seventh that were killed. It's a war that

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Speaker 2: they started, and people think Israel should just somehow stop

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Speaker 2: it's all. It's gone on too long, it's too much.

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Speaker 2: I argue that they should have moved faster from the beginning.

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Speaker 2: I then argue that it's understandable that they weren't sure

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Speaker 2: how they were going to navigate some of the moving,

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Speaker 2: not knowing where snipers were and other issues were.

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Speaker 3: But absolutely I would.

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Speaker 2: Have gone down the road of I want all these

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Speaker 2: people back, when these people are not coming back. This happened,

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Speaker 2: But they went down the road of we're going to

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Speaker 2: try and get these people back, and they got a

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Speaker 2: great number of the people back, and a great number

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Speaker 2: of remains back, and they they're still hostages being held

646
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Speaker 2: to which all of these groups don't say return the hostages.

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Speaker 2: They don't care. It doesn't matter to them. Has this

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00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 2: gone on too long? I can appreciate the sentiment that

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Speaker 2: it has, absolutely because it's something we discussed from the beginning.

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Speaker 2: But if you ask me whether I think Israel sees

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Speaker 2: itself as a country that's going to put up with

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Speaker 2: AMOS anymore, the answer is no.

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Speaker 3: And they're going to destroy every last.

654
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Speaker 2: Of AMAS member, whether they are in Gaza or whether

655
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Speaker 2: they're in Cutter or anywhere else. And they don't really

656
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Speaker 2: care where the world is on this, And maybe they

657
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 2: shouldn't be surprised when people walk out of the United Nations.

658
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Speaker 2: The point is if Israel had stopped and never gone in,

659
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Speaker 2: those people would have still walked out. That is the

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Speaker 2: argument that the people who walked out of the United

661
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Speaker 2: Nations because net and Yahoo was speaking, we're gonna walk

662
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:05,919
Speaker 2: out on him anyway. That is the anti Semitism part

663
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 2: conversation about whether Israel should still be going, should still

664
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Speaker 2: be acting, haven't they haven't they finished this up already. Well,

665
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Speaker 2: that's a conversation about how do you think you should

666
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Speaker 2: handle this, How do you think you should handle that?

667
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 2: What about negotiations here? What about diplomacy here? But you

668
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 2: should at least say that and recognition with Hamas started

669
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Speaker 2: this Aboss's evil, Hamas's terrorist organization.

670
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 3: Hamas has to be.

671
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 2: Destroyed, should be destroyed, at least, should be removed from power,

672
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 2: never be allowed to have power again. Right, that's that's

673
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 2: a thousand percent where we should be a thousand percent,

674
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 2: and not everybody is there. So the conversation regarding Israel

675
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: is a different conversation than the stuff with Tucker Carlson

676
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: and I talked about the fact that I didn't like

677
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 2: what he said in Charlie Kirk's memorial because it was

678
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 2: clearly it was clearly incendiary, clearly ridiculous, and people wanted

679
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 2: to argue with me, Tony, the Jews killed Jesus. Why

680
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 2: can't you just accept this? And I didn't respond to

681
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: too many people because I was really kind of amazed

682
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 2: that that would be the response, and I was not

683
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 2: interested in angering people who were.

684
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 3: Clearly or purposely or however.

685
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 2: You want to say it not catching the points of

686
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 2: my statement, which was so obvious and was echoed by

687
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 2: so many people, as if it could somehow be denied.

688
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson wasn't having a conversation about the Pharisees and

689
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 2: the crucifixion of Jesus and the Romans and yes, Jews

690
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 2: at the time. But the moral of the story is

691
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 2: is that wasn't all Jews. It was some Jews. And

692
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 2: this is to bring us back to Dennis Praeger. What

693
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Speaker 2: I said is that Tucker Carlson at his memorial said,

694
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Speaker 2: just picture a couple of guys sitting around eating hummus, saying, Hey,

695
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 2: that Jesus problem, why don't we just kill him? Was

696
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 2: he trying to make the conversation that Jews killed Kirk?

697
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 2: Probably not. Probably not. Was he saying that Jews killed Jesus? Absolutely,

698
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,399
Speaker 2: and the guilt is all the way across the board.

699
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 2: I didn't kill nobody just for the sake of the conversation.

700
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 3: And Tucker does.

701
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 2: This a lot, and then he laughs like a weirdo,

702
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 2: and everyone says, well, he's just speaking the word. He's not.

703
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 2: I reject that premise, and I'm happy to debate that

704
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 2: anywhere there's an issue with Tucker, and there's certainly an

705
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 2: issue with the anti Semitism that has come from this

706
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 2: woke right and new right in sanity. Israel is always

707
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 2: the blame. Jews always blame. It's Candice Tucker. It's just gross.

708
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 2: And of course I'm gonna say this is nuts. I

709
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 2: got plenty of on Jews saying it's nuts, because it is.

710
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 2: It is ridiculous. Thus the commentary of Dennis Prager, which

711
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 2: echoes things that we have said here, he just gave

712
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 2: it a different kind of twist. The idea that one

713
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 2: person believes something, or one person says something, or one

714
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 2: person does something is different than saying because of that

715
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 2: the whole group that shares the same characteristic believe something,

716
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 2: did something, et cetera. I get yelled at locally in

717
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 2: my Indianapolis area when I'm doing my morning show.

718
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 3: Because I discuss the issues that are taking place in

719
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 3: Let's say downtown.

720
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 2: Name your downtown, downtown, Tulsa, downtown, Detroit, downtown, Saint Louis downtown,

721
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 2: Paton Rouge, a lot of places, downtown Orlando, downtown Peoria.

722
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 2: You got a lot of places that have issues downtown.

723
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Speaker 2: And I discuss what's going on, and I will have

724
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 2: people message me not being honest, Tony. You just won't

725
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 2: say that the issue is black people because I don't

726
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 2: believe the issue is black people. I believe the issue

727
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 2: is liberalism when we take a look at what it

728
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 2: is that drives people to certain activities and the excusing

729
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Speaker 2: of certain activities.

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Speaker 3: If you think that it's skin.

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Speaker 2: Color, man, that's a KKK move, count me out. It

732
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 2: is absolutely what takes place in the gray.

733
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Speaker 3: It's the ideology.

734
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Speaker 2: I know plenty of people who are conservative and black

735
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Speaker 2: and they're not doing that. Therefore my data point is

736
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Speaker 2: accurate to say, well it's black people. No, No, that's insane. Liberalism, progressivism,

737
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Speaker 2: the excusing of either violent behavior, dangerous behavior, antisocial behavior

738
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Speaker 2: ten thousand percent, a cultural that has created such levels

739
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 2: of narcissism that anything you do that is encounter to

740
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 2: how they feel at the moment is seen as the

741
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 2: threat and then pile on it. And you see this

742
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: in videos like if you ever watch those videos of

743
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Speaker 2: people being pulled over, Oh you pulled me over because

744
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 2: I'm black? I saw one yesterday. Did you pull me

745
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 2: over because I'm trans? And that was it. It's a shield,

746
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 2: it's a weapon. It's both and that comes from an

747
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 2: ideological place that comes from the Marxism and the idea

748
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 2: of division and destruction, and it has nothing to do

749
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 2: with color of skin. You want to take a look

750
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 2: at America post Civil War and pre civil rights. You

751
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 2: want to take a look at the places that thrived.

752
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 2: You want to take a look at Tulsa before the

753
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 2: Tulsa Race massacre. Do you want? Honesty requires an honest look.

754
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 2: Honesty requires honestly paying attention and so to to the

755
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 2: point that Dennis is making, the objection to a policy

756
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 2: from a government makes rational sense if you could back

757
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 2: up the reasons for your objection to the policy. The

758
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 2: objection to the people's existence is something completely different, and

759
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 2: there are definitely people in that un who have an

760
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 2: issue with existence, like Canada, like the UK, and like

761
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Speaker 2: Australia and Netanya who said so.

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Speaker 15: This week, the leaders of France, Britain, Australia and Canada

763
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Speaker 15: and other countries unconditionally recognized a Palestinian state. They did

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Speaker 15: so after the horrors committed by Hamas on October seventh,

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Speaker 15: horrors praised on that day by nearly ninety percent of

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Speaker 15: the Palestinian population. Let me say that again, nearly ninety

767
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Speaker 15: percent of Palestinians supported the attack on October seventh. It's

768
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Speaker 15: not supported only they celebrated it. They danced on the rooftops,

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Speaker 15: they threw candies. That's woes both in Gaza and in Julia, Samaria,

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Speaker 15: the West Bank as you call it. And it's just

771
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Speaker 15: the way they celebrated another horror nine eleven. They danced

772
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Speaker 15: on the rooftops, they cheered, they threw candy. You know

773
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Speaker 15: what message the leaders who recognize the Palestinian state this

774
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Speaker 15: week sent to the Palestinians.

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Speaker 2: It's a very clear message.

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Speaker 15: Murdering Jews days off. Well, I have a message for

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Speaker 15: these leaders. When the most savage terrorists on earth are

778
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Speaker 15: effusively praising your decision, you didn't do something right.

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00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 2: You did something wrong, horribly wrong.

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Speaker 15: Your disgraceful decision will encourage terrorism against Jews and against

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Speaker 15: innocent people everywhere. It will be a mark of shame

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Speaker 15: on all of you.

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Speaker 2: And he's right, he is one thousand percent right. By

784
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Speaker 2: the way, that's what these nations did. And embarrassingly they say, well,

785
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 2: this is going to bring peace, It's going to bring

786
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 2: them to the table now they have to act like

787
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Speaker 2: a proper nation. Sure, sure, you see that's me having

788
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 2: issue with the policies of France, the United Kingdom, Canada,

789
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 2: in Australia, et cetera, and not thinking that all Londoners

790
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 2: are all Canadians or all or all Australians.

791
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Speaker 3: Are bad people.

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Speaker 2: See how it works? Oh, I know you did. I

793
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 2: was talking to everybody else. I'm Tony Katz and this

794
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Speaker 2: is Tony Kats today.

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Speaker 3: So this heg Seth meeting is a mystery.

796
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Speaker 2: And I can appreciate people saying, what is all of

797
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 2: this about Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be

798
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Speaker 2: with you. You've got the Secretary of War Pete Hegseth

799
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Speaker 2: saying allegedly putting together this this meeting of generals, generals

800
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Speaker 2: and admirals. There's like eight hundred generals and admirals we

801
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 2: have in the United States. It's okay, what are you

802
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 2: What are you getting together for? What is the purpose

803
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Speaker 2: of the meeting? And the answer is, I do not know.

804
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Speaker 2: I have no idea why there's this meeting got reported

805
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 2: by the Washington Post yesterday, It's now everywhere. I'm kind

806
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 2: of bothered that it's reported because if indeed they're gonna

807
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 2: get together, I don't think I want everybody knowing about it.

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00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 2: I don't think it should be so much a story

809
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Speaker 2: of a public consumption.

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Speaker 3: Get together for the meeting without.

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Speaker 2: Letting anybody know, but it got leaked, and now there's

812
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Speaker 2: this question of this mystery meeting.

813
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 3: As with all things.

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Speaker 2: People get incredibly what's the word I'm looking for?

815
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 3: Dumb?

816
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 2: And there is a guy who I do not know,

817
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Speaker 2: by the name of Ben Hodges, a general former US

818
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 2: Army Europe, and he's on social media and he tweets out.

819
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 2: July nineteen thirty five, German generals were called to a

820
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Speaker 2: surprise assembly in Berlin and informed that their previous oath

821
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 2: to the Weimar Constitution was void and that they would

822
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Speaker 2: be further required to swear a personal oath to the Furor.

823
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 2: Most generals took the new oath to keep their position,

824
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 2: to which Pete Hegseth responded, cool story, general, is that

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00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 2: really how we're going to be engaging things? The only

826
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Speaker 2: reason for this meeting is because Trump and Hegseth want

827
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Speaker 2: the generals to swear an allegiance to Trump, continuing this

828
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Speaker 2: push of Trump Autocrat Trump deskpot, Trump dictator, TRUMP, threat

829
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Speaker 2: to democracy, Trump takeover. It continues, over and over and

830
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 2: over again. No turning down the rhetoric, no toning down

831
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Speaker 2: the rhetoric. This is certifiable. I assume that this general

832
00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 2: is retired the United States Army certifiable. These people are broken.

833
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Speaker 2: Why in the world would I even consider or you

834
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Speaker 2: or anybody believing anything they say? For what purpose would

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Speaker 2: you do that? I'm curious about this meeting too. I

836
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 2: do not quite understand what it is for. Maybe we'll

837
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Speaker 2: find out. I think the argument of do you really

838
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 2: want all these senior officials in one place? I think

839
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Speaker 2: that's actually a very good argument. I think that is

840
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Speaker 2: a near compelling argument. Is this the right thing to do?

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00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 2: And then you have Trump and he was in the

842
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,439
Speaker 2: in the oval yesterday. You've got Trump and you have JD.

843
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Speaker 2: Vance there and they were asked about this, and they're like,

844
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 2: a not a big deal. Why even why are we

845
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Speaker 2: even talking about this? Why such a big deal? You

846
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 2: act like it's a bad thing. I'm not saying it

847
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 2: is a bad thing, but are we going to protect

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Speaker 2: and that there's not the possibility of a problem with

849
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Speaker 2: everybody being in one place. It's okay to say, it's

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00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 2: okay to note it's like when you had the memorial

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Speaker 2: service for Charlie Kirk. I understand we could do security

852
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 2: pretty well. The president, the vice president, the Secretary of State,

853
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Speaker 2: the Secretary of Defense all in one spot.

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Speaker 3: It's yes, you can be concerned about.

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Speaker 2: That, but we have them all one spot, and for example,

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Speaker 2: at least many of them, for example, had a Republican convention,

857
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 2: the Democratic conventions. It's okay to say, is this the

858
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 2: best idea. I just don't know what the meeting is for.

859
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Speaker 2: But if there's a conversation about a reduction amongst the generals,

860
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Speaker 2: well I'm absolutely fine with that. Eight hundred generals and admimals.

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Speaker 2: Do you really need that many people with stars? Does

862
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 2: it really take many stars to get the job done?

863
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 2: Or do we promote people to general because you know

864
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 2: somebody has a brother in law, and well you know

865
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Speaker 2: that is often times the case. You don't think the

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Speaker 2: military is political. How do you think you get to

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Speaker 2: be a general you're a great leader. That's not always

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Speaker 2: how it works, and we are all fully aware of that.

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Speaker 2: So as for what this meaning is, I do not know.

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Speaker 2: But if we're going to fire some generals and some admirals.

871
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 2: I'm okay with that. I am fine with it. And

872
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 2: the idea that we can't fire admirals and generals. This

873
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 2: goes back to that conversation, do the institutions exist for

874
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 2: the citizenry or do they exist to keep the institutions

875
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 2: in existence. Then there's a story of the farmer. So

876
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 2: you have got the Trump administry saying that tariff money

877
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Speaker 2: is going to be used to help bail out farmers,

878
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 2: not all, but some. Now Taiwan is pledging to buy

879
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 2: six billion dollars in US corn and soybeans. This is

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Speaker 2: the first story that I have seen where there is

881
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Speaker 2: some kind of movement based on the tariff war, the

882
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 2: idea that yes, indeed, it's not just a conversation of well,

883
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 2: we'll open up our markets to these things that you

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Speaker 2: sell in America. Opening up the market is inconsequential. Are

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01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 2: they going to buy? Yes or no? So you have

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01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 2: this this deal regarding the state of Indiana. Leaders of

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01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 2: Indiana's corn and soybean lobbies signing letters of intent with

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01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 2: officials from Taiwan that call for Taiwan to purchase close

889
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Speaker 2: to six billion dollars worth of US agricultural products over

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Speaker 2: the next four years. Now, I would want to know

891
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 2: exactly how much of this stuff do they buy. Already

892
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 2: the letters state that they're committed to buying eight point

893
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 2: five metric tons of US corn products and six and

894
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 2: a half to eight metric tons of soybean products by

895
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty nine. That's a little over two billion dollars

896
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 2: worth of corn and three and three quarter billion dollars

897
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 2: worth of soybeans. Now, it doesn't discuss how much it's

898
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Speaker 2: coming out of Indiana specifically, but we'll leave that as

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Speaker 2: a secondary point. If this is something in addition to

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Speaker 2: what is already being purchased, specifically purchased because of trade deals,

901
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 2: this is the kind of thing you cheer and celebrate

902
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 2: and say, my gosh, the first actual fruits of one

903
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 2: of these trade deals.

904
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Speaker 3: That's good news.

905
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 2: But if now we're going to say, going back to

906
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 2: the other side of this tariff, money is here to

907
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 2: bail out the farmer. I like the farmer. I support

908
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 2: the farmer. I want these trade deals to be able

909
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 2: to help out the farmer in every single way. But

910
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 2: the but the tarers being used to bail out the farmer.

911
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 2: I thought that we had a use for the tariffs,

912
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 2: and that was paying down debt. I thought that was

913
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 2: its purpose, get rid of this insane debt crushing Americans.

914
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 2: That because we don't stop spending, because we're fools, that

915
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 2: was the goal. That's not the goal. Now we're going

916
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 2: to use it for specific pet projects. I opposed the

917
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 2: tariff money going back to the people some level of rebate.

918
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no, no, no no. This is

919
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 2: all getting silly. Don't get me wrong. I love it

920
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 2: when Americans get their money back. I want my money

921
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 2: back too. Pay down the debt. If that's what you're

922
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 2: gonna use. If you're gonna have these ridiculous for cock

923
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 2: to tariffsy pay down the debt be done. Finished. Paying

924
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 2: down the debt is better for me. I need this

925
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 2: debt gone. This is crushing. This is gonna destroy us.

926
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 2: My gosh, it's the tea party all over again. But

927
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 2: we're gonna bail out the farmers. Trump saying in the

928
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 2: Oval Office, We're gonna take some of that tariff money

929
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 2: that we've made.

930
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 3: We're gonna give it.

931
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 2: To our farmers, who for a little while are going

932
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 2: to be hurt until it kicks in the tariffs kick

933
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 2: in to their benefit. I do like the admission that

934
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Speaker 2: the tariffs cause a problem. If this trade deal works

935
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 2: where it's above and beyond what is already being purchased

936
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Speaker 2: by Taiwan, then yes, the first real good news. Now

937
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 2: let's see others do this and start buying. And by

938
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 2: the way, there's only so many soybeans. We have so

939
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 2: much corn that we have. Oh, we've got a lot

940
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 2: of it, but there's only so much. There are only

941
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 2: so many places you can go and sell the things

942
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 2: because you only have so much to sell. This is

943
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 2: a good result, not one hundred percent sure how I

944
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 2: feel about kind of peace meeling it out with this

945
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 2: group is hurt and that group's hurt. The other group's hurt.

946
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 2: You said you're gonna pay down debt, and I think

947
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 2: that's what you should do. The other part of it is,

948
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 2: did the tariffs actually lead us to this place talk

949
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 2: about this deal with Taiwan? Did take the tariffs to

950
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:52,479
Speaker 2: do this? We couldn't have done it any other way?

951
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 2: Maybe not? But did the tariff still provide us any value?

952
01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 2: Because there are attacks on us? I still say, I know,

953
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 2: but a trade deal I will cheer a trade deal

954
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 2: that actually sees an economic result.

955
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 3: And I'm not mad at farmers, I understand.

956
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 2: I'm just saying this tariff money was supposed to go

957
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 2: to debt, and I would if we're going to collect

958
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 2: a crap, I would still like to see that be

959
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 2: the thing that's paid down.

960
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 3: This is Tony Katz today.

961
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Speaker 2: So as we have seen, the political left has no

962
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 2: interest in toning down the rhetoric. Absolutely positively none. We

963
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 2: were talking about the conversation regarding the Secretary of warpete

964
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 2: hegseth a meeting with generals, and you've got a former

965
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 2: general saying, well, that's what they did in the Weimar

966
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 2: Republic and made them all swear an oath to Hitler.

967
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 2: Some toning down the rhetoric. That is Tony Katz. Tony

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01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 2: Katz today, Good to be with you. Chuck Todd, formerly

969
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 2: of NBC, now on the Chuck Todcast. When in doubt,

970
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 2: get a podcast. I have no idea he's making money

971
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 2: from it or not. I'd be curious to know he's

972
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 2: got this little gem for you.

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Speaker 16: I'm not gonna sit here and say Ice is bringing

974
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 16: this upon themselves, but why are we masking the agents

975
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 16: when they come after people? This is America. This is

976
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 16: not jack booted thugs coming in at the you know,

977
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 16: that is not what America is supposed to be. And

978
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 16: so all of this stuff is going to get met.

979
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:22,959
Speaker 2: When you when you.

980
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 16: Sort of govern in a nihilistic way, you're gonna get

981
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 16: you're gonna end up creating.

982
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 2: A lot of nihilists.

983
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 16: And that's a very scary proposition for those of us

984
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 16: that would like to live in free, normal America.

985
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna sit here and say Ice is bringing

986
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 2: this upon themselves and then goes on to say America,

987
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 2: Ice is bringing this upon themselves. That's what he's saying.

988
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 2: And that is, of course not the case. And why

989
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 2: are they wearing masks because they're getting docs, because they're

990
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 2: getting at tight because they're getting shot at.

991
01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 3: That's the argument.

992
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 2: It's not that we think that law enforcement should be

993
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 2: able to operate in the shadows. It's that they're being

994
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 2: shot at. And you, Chuck Todd, think that somehow it's

995
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 2: Trump that's engaging the nihilism, wanting to enforce the laws

996
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 2: of the nation. Wouldn't that, by definition be opposed diametric

997
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 2: opposition to the concept of nihilism. I don't know do

998
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 2: we need to define the word nihilism? Sure, A viewpoint

999
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 2: that traditional, traditional values and beliefs are unfounded, So that's

1000
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 2: the definition. A viewpoint that traditional values and beliefs are

1001
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 2: unfounded and that existence is senseless and useless. A doctrine

1002
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 2: or belief that conditions in the social organization are so

1003
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 2: bad as to make destruction desirable for its own sake,

1004
01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 2: independence of any constructive program or possibility. The people who

1005
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 2: want to burn it all down will get more in

1006
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 2: to those people who are the nihilists. People who want

1007
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 2: to uphold the rule of law and believe that the

1008
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 2: United States has borders and a way of life that

1009
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:18,560
Speaker 2: should be protected, or the people who want open borders

1010
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:23,679
Speaker 2: want that way of living destroyed and believe in killing

1011
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 2: those who are trying to enforce the laws that are

1012
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:29,520
Speaker 2: already on the books, voted on by our elected representatives.

1013
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:35,679
Speaker 2: Who are the nihilists? Here, the argument made from Chuck

1014
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 2: Todd just reeks of pseudo intellectual non heft. There's no

1015
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 2: weight here, there's no lift here, there is no power

1016
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 2: behind his words, there is no there is no philosophy

1017
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 2: behind his words. There's only an emotional problem here. When

1018
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 2: you if We're going to take a look at nihilism,

1019
01:09:56,280 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 2: which I agree does permeate the political left far more

1020
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:01,640
Speaker 2: than just a big Lebowski.

1021
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:04,639
Speaker 3: We can see this in arts, and we can see

1022
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 3: this in culture.

1023
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 2: We can see this in the people, those in the

1024
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 2: university sets, et cetera. The upholding of the law through

1025
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:20,440
Speaker 2: the utilization of the laws is so completely diametrically opposed

1026
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 2: to the idea of nihilism. It's so one eighty from

1027
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:29,680
Speaker 2: the concept of nihilism that it is clear that it

1028
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,679
Speaker 2: is not Trump, nor the way he is governing can

1029
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 2: be seen that can be seen us as nihilism at all.

1030
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:39,759
Speaker 3: It comes from the political left.

1031
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 2: If your answer is murder, that's the nihilistic way of governing.

1032
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:49,719
Speaker 2: If your answer is destruction, if your answer is attack,

1033
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 2: if your answer is doxing, if your answer allah George

1034
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 2: Floyd Riots is setting fire to police stations, that's the

1035
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 2: nihilis And that nihilism is cheered, lauded, and glorified by

1036
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 2: the political left, by those impositions of power. And buy

1037
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 2: those university professors who keep pushing you know what, this

1038
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 2: is good. You're really sending a message good work with

1039
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 2: your violent protest. Now don't forget. You want to break

1040
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 2: the window before you throw them all? Cut off cocktail, right,

1041
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 2: You don't want to bounce back.

1042
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:24,639
Speaker 3: That could be bad.

1043
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:28,719
Speaker 2: Break the window, then toss the cocktail, break, then toss.

1044
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 3: This is what they're big time.

1045
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:31,639
Speaker 2: Who's the nihilist?

1046
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 3: Chuck Todd needs to go.

1047
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,599
Speaker 2: Back to take a look at his own words, because man,

1048
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 2: are they false. I'm Tony Kats.

1049
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,560
Speaker 3: This is Tony Kats today.

1050
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 1: Line from the Hartbiner and the Crossroads of America. It's

1051
01:11:58,360 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

1052
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 6: My family and I have known for years that there

1053
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 6: are costs to standing up to Donald Trump, but we

1054
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:10,600
Speaker 6: couldn't imagine ourselves living any other way. We will not

1055
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 6: live on our knees, and you shouldn't either. Somebody that

1056
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 6: I love dearly recently said that fear is the tool

1057
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 6: of a tyrant, and she's right. But I'm not afraid,

1058
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 6: and I hope you're not either. I hope instead you

1059
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:31,639
Speaker 6: are engaged, You are paying attention, and you will vote

1060
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 6: like your beloved country depends upon it, which it does.

1061
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 6: My heart is broken for the Department of Justice, but

1062
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:44,680
Speaker 6: I have great confidence in the federal judicial system, and

1063
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 6: I'm innocent, so Let's have a trial.

1064
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, James, Tony, Let's have a trial with your

1065
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 2: broken heart and see if you lied and obstructed justice.

1066
01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you.

1067
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 2: Find everything at Tony Katz dot com. You can email

1068
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:08,639
Speaker 2: me Tony atonycats dot com on the Twitter ex Tony Katz,

1069
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 2: Instagram Tony Katz. That's James Comy lying and obstruction of justice, unless,

1070
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 2: of course, you want to hear how CNN describes the indictment.

1071
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 2: This is CNN breaking news, and.

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Speaker 5: We are following major breaking news tonight is former FBI

1073
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:35,799
Speaker 5: director James Comy is now the first senior government official

1074
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:39,560
Speaker 5: to face charges in one of President Trump's biggest grievances,

1075
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 5: the twenty sixteen Russia investigation.

1076
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 2: Is that why he's facing charges or is he facing

1077
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:52,640
Speaker 2: charges because he lied to Congress. Notice that's Caitlyn Collins

1078
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:57,599
Speaker 2: right there, not reporting the news, but reporting a narrative.

1079
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Speaker 2: That's what it sounds like, because that ten percent is

1080
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 2: exactly what it is. Catherine Herridge who has been all

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Speaker 2: around this, and she posted this a while ago. When

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Speaker 2: first you take a look at the indictment itself, falsely

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Speaker 2: stating to a US Center.

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Speaker 3: This is count one, falsely.

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Speaker 2: Stating to a US Senator during a Senate Judiciary Committee

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Speaker 2: hearing that he, James Comy, had not quote authorized someone

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Speaker 2: else of the FBI to be an anonymous source in

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Speaker 2: news reports. And then count two obstruction quote did corruptly

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Speaker 2: endeavor to influence, obstruct.

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Speaker 3: And impede.

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Speaker 2: Right, That's that's what the basics of the indictment is.

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Speaker 2: But it was this, and this was she put this

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01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 2: back in August when Tulsea Gabbard was releasing information. Catherine

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01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 2: Herridge released this regarding Chuck Grassley in his Q and

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Speaker 2: A back in twenty seventeen, Chuck Grassley, the Senator from

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Speaker 2: Iowa with James Comy.

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Speaker 10: Listen, Director Comy, have you ever been an anonymous source

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Speaker 10: in news reports about matters relating to the Trump investigation

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Speaker 10: or the Clinton investigation? Never question two one relatively related,

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01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 10: Have you ever authorized someone else at the FBI to

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01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 10: be an anonymous source in news reports about the Trump

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01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:47,480
Speaker 10: investigation or the Clinton investigation? Now, has any classified information

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01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:54,600
Speaker 10: relating to President Trump or his association associates been declassified

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01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 10: and shared with the media.

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Speaker 6: Not to my knowledge.

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Speaker 2: So that's James Comy in twenty seventeen, saying that there

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Speaker 2: were no eleaks, there was never an anonymous source in

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Speaker 2: news reports, that he's never been in anonymous source authoring

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01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 2: somebody else to be an anonymous source, except there are,

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Speaker 2: and Herridge had pointed out conversations from him where this

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Speaker 2: was discussed getting information to the New York Times. Now,

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Speaker 2: this is a great, great bit of information here, because

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Speaker 2: the charges are coming now in twenty twenty five. This

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Speaker 2: is twenty seventeen. Wait a second, I thought the charges

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Speaker 2: had to come by September thirtieth because what we had

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01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 2: was a statute of limitations. Follow this. This is really

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01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 2: good from Twitchy right here. So what happened was was

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01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:04,599
Speaker 2: that Ted Cruz September thirtieth, twenty twenty. Comy is in

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01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 2: front of this Senate committee, he states to James Comy

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Speaker 2: on May third, twenty seventeen. That's when you heard Comy.

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Speaker 2: That's when he gave this testimony in this committee. Chairman

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01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 2: Chuck Grashley asked you, point blank, have you ever been

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Speaker 2: in an anonymous source in news reports about matters relating

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Speaker 2: to the Trump investigation or the Clinton investigation? You responded

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01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 2: under oath never. He then asked you, have you ever

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Speaker 2: authorized someone else at the FBI to be an anonymous

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01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 2: source in news reports about the Trump investigation or the

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Speaker 2: Clinton administration? You responded again under oath no, Ted Cruz continues, Now,

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01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 2: as you know, mister mccab who works for you, is

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01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 2: publicly and repeatedly stated that he leaked information to the

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01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal and that you were directly aware of

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01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 2: it and that you directly authorized it. Now, states Senator Cruz,

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01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 2: quote what mister McCabe saying and what you testified to

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Speaker 2: this committee cannot both be true. One or the other

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01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:08,799
Speaker 2: is false. Who's telling the truth? To which James Comy

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01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:12,560
Speaker 2: responds and I quote, I can only speak to my testimony.

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Speaker 2: I stand by the testimony you summarize that I gave in.

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Speaker 3: May of twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 2: He did that on September thirtieth, twenty twenty, therefore reintroducing

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01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 2: it into the record. So the statute of limitations expires

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01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 2: five years from that moment, which would be on September thirtieth,

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01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 2: and that's why the charges can come. Now, Okay, come on,

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01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 2: that's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. He got him on

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01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 2: the record to do that. And when you go through

1145
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 2: the kind of testimony that people like Katlin Herriage have

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01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 2: gone through. It's very clear, at least to me, from that,

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01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:58,599
Speaker 2: maybe more information can come out that there is something

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01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 2: reasonable to the idea that Komy leaked this information and

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01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 2: had information leaked. Do I oppose the investigation into James Comy,

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01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:12,759
Speaker 2: Oh gosh no. Do I think Kmey is a smarty guy? Oh?

1151
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:17,760
Speaker 2: Absolutely I do. But being smarty doesn't mean necessarily that

1152
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:23,639
Speaker 2: you get investigated. It doesn't mean that at all. I mean,

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01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 2: his statement is just so gross. My heart is broken.

1154
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 2: I knew you'd have to fight for what you believe in.

1155
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 2: My family's always known this, and that's why you have

1156
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 2: to go vote. That's why we voted for Trump, and

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01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 2: this is what we voted for. CNN wants to say,

1158
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 2: this is all grudge and this is all retribution, and

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01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 2: this is all grievance. You mean, there's no possibility that

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01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 2: James Comey did something wrong. When you go after Trump,

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01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 2: he's one hundred percent guilty, no matter what. Why are

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01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 2: you even asking? What do you mean?

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01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 3: You're fighting this?

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01:19:56,640 --> 01:20:00,080
Speaker 2: But when we've got the data as I just shared it,

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01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 2: that at least opens the door for the infraction, not invented.

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01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 2: There's no show me the man and I'll show you

1167
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 2: the crime there it is. There's enough there, and grand

1168
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 2: jury thought there was enough there. Then all of a sudden,

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01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 2: it's grievance hunting. You're right about the fact that a

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01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 2: Biden or Harris administration would never have gone forward with this,

1171
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:27,559
Speaker 2: because they don't care if you lie to Congress if

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Speaker 2: it helps them. They don't care if you lie. But

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01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 2: I think we should care if you lie. I think

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01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:36,559
Speaker 2: we should think it wrong if you lie. I think

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01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 2: we should deal with people who lie. And I think

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01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:42,400
Speaker 2: there should be consequences. You lie in a court, you

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Speaker 2: lie to Congress, if you're under oath, that's an issue,

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01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 2: and we can't take it lying down. But no, CNN

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01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:56,760
Speaker 2: they call it it's Trump's biggest grievance. I understand that

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01:20:56,840 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 2: people didn't like Trump's post on truth social justice in America.

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Speaker 3: One of the worst human beings.

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01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 2: Of this country has ever been exposed to is James Comey,

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01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 2: the former corrupt head of the FBI. Today, he was

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01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 2: indicted by a grand jury on two felony counts, writes

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01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 2: President Trump, quote for various legal and lawful acts. He

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01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 2: has been so bad for our country for so long

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01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:20,840
Speaker 2: and is now at the beginning of being held responsible

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01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:23,599
Speaker 2: for his crimes against our nation. And then he ended

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01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:26,679
Speaker 2: it with make America great Again. I get that people

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Speaker 2: look at that and they see it as a victory dance.

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01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:34,600
Speaker 2: Ten percent. Did you see the glee over the second impeachment?

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01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 2: Did you see the glee over all of the indictments,

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01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:44,880
Speaker 2: all of them absolute failures. You want to talk about grievances,

1194
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:49,640
Speaker 2: but always remember that everything they did to Trump had

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01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:52,840
Speaker 2: nothing to do with Trump. I mean, he's the one

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01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 2: who dealt with it, and he dealt with it in

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01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:57,280
Speaker 2: an incredible way, but it always had.

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Speaker 3: To deal with you.

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Speaker 2: You are the one they are angry at. You are

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Speaker 2: the one they are upset with. You're the one who

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01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:07,600
Speaker 2: didn't listen to them. You're the one who voted for

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01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:09,879
Speaker 2: this guy when they told you you can't, that you shouldn't,

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01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 2: that you mustn't. They're the ones who told you you're

1204
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 2: a racist and you're a bigot, and you're a sexist

1205
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 2: and you're a xenophobe if you vote for him, and

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01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 2: you did it anyway. They are the ones who told

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01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 2: you you have to vote for this black woman. You

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01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 2: have to vote for this, old man. You have to

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01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:23,719
Speaker 2: do for this, and you didn't listen, and they hate

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01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 2: you for it. And that's why they go after people

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01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 2: like Trump and anybody who aligns his way, and people

1212
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 2: like Comy lying in front of Congress based on a

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01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 2: whole bunch of data should get a pass. No, maybe

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01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 2: we're actually seeing the Justice Department engage justice for the

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01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 2: first time in four years. I think that's a worthy take.

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Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Kats Today. Have you

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01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:55,559
Speaker 2: seen this video. This was the wife of a guy

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01:22:55,600 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 2: who got detained by Ice and she's yelling at what

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Speaker 2: I assume.

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Speaker 3: As an Ice agent.

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Speaker 2: He's got the badge around his neck, he's wearing a flannel,

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01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 2: he's wearing a baseball cap.

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Speaker 3: And this is this is what happens.

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Speaker 2: Listen, and kids are crying and people are upset, and

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01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 2: there's yelling because she walked up to him. He then

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01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 2: pushed her. She then went to the ground. He puts

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Speaker 2: you to the ground. She also tripped everybody. You're gonna say,

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01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 2: he puts you to the ground. Then he pushes her

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01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 2: aside and lets the other security there remove her. He's

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01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:03,599
Speaker 2: saying audios. She's yell at him. That's what's happening in

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01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:08,559
Speaker 2: the video, and then he touches she touches him. He

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01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:12,680
Speaker 2: pushes her into the wall, then keeps pushing her. She

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01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 2: trips over a doorway and then goes goes down and

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01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 2: he pushed her to the ground. So this video is

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Speaker 2: getting a tremendous amount of play. My gosh, look what

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01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:30,719
Speaker 2: I say agents are doing. All I have is this video.

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01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 2: And in this video we can see two things. A

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01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 2: woman who is screaming, yelling at law enforcement and put

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01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:43,720
Speaker 2: her hands on law enforcement, and a law enforcement by

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01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 2: the way she put her hands on law enforcement more

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01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 2: than once. She's trying to enter a room that she

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01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:52,680
Speaker 2: can't and then you see this guy absolutely pushing in

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01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:57,320
Speaker 2: man handling her. Both parts should be taken in equal measure.

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01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 2: And I'm not interested and excusing the pushing of this

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01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:06,600
Speaker 2: woman to the ground when you could have gone in

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01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 2: the room putting your hands on the law enforcement agent.

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01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 2: In what world law enforcement officer, sorry, my ice agent,

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01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:19,639
Speaker 2: law enforcement officer. I came up with law enforcement agent.

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01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 2: That's not the right terminology. There's in no world that

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01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 2: this gets accepted, none, absolutely none.

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Speaker 3: I know this from.

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01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 2: Hearing about the people who told me about January sixth,

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01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:36,599
Speaker 2: so that you can't be putting your hands on anybody

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01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 2: in law enforcement like this woman did, who was screaming

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01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:44,639
Speaker 2: and yelling and screaming young in Spanish, and her kids

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01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:46,600
Speaker 2: are there. I mean, the whole thing is it's an

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01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 2: ugly scene. You don't want to see this, you don't

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01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 2: want this. It's It is absolutely possible that other building

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01:25:57,040 --> 01:26:00,680
Speaker 2: security could have gotten involved and escorted this woman outside.

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Speaker 2: It is very very possible that this guy could have

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Speaker 2: gone into a room that was behind him, where the

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Speaker 2: door was open and there were other law enforcement there.

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Speaker 3: Very visible, very easy to see.

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Speaker 2: It is very possible that this guy's emotions got the

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01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:19,559
Speaker 2: best of him and he is going to need to

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01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 2: be reprimanded. Two things can happen at the same time.

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Speaker 2: We can absolutely support the deportation of illegal immigrants, no

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01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:35,959
Speaker 2: matter how much the wife yells and screams and cries

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01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 2: and catterwalls. That is not something that supplants the law

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Speaker 2: which says you cannot be in the country illegally. And

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Speaker 2: we could also say, dude, ain't None of that was necessary,

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Speaker 2: was absolutely positively not necessary. Now someone else can say

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01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:58,800
Speaker 2: to me tony law enforcement practice. Dick takes this, and

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Speaker 2: therefore he was following a certain set of rules, a

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Speaker 2: certain set of conditions. Someone could say to me, Tony

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01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:08,680
Speaker 2: law enforcement practice states this, and this guy did not

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Speaker 2: do those things.

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Speaker 3: Worthy conversation.

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Speaker 2: Never once when I make the assumption that ICE is

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01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 2: above some type of conversation about practices. Remember, if you're

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01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:28,479
Speaker 2: talking about covering the face, this guy doesn't have his

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01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:30,599
Speaker 2: face covered. I have no problem with covering the face.

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01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:35,519
Speaker 2: You have these leftists who want to kill ICE agents.

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01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:39,519
Speaker 2: They want to kill the ICE agent. Of course, they're

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01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 2: going to protect themselves from dockxing and all sorts of things.

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01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:44,080
Speaker 2: This guy is face is right there to see, and

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01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 2: I'm assuming there's gonna be some kind of punishment that

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01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 2: comes down the line from it, because we hold the

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Speaker 2: people in law enforcement to a higher standard. By the way,

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Speaker 2: when the woman gets back up, she's still going at

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01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:00,759
Speaker 2: this guy, and he has to push her to where

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Speaker 2: these three security guards are so they can now escort

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Speaker 2: her out of the building. She pressed up against him,

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Speaker 2: touched him repeatedly, repeatedly, So I'm not going to excuse that,

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01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 2: and I'm not necessarily going to excuse his actions. Either

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Speaker 2: I'm going to leave it to Ice that I'm going

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Speaker 2: to leave it to others to determine the properness there.

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Speaker 2: How does it look court a public opinion time, Oh,

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Speaker 2: it looks really bad. It looks really really bad. Now

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Speaker 2: you can spin it. Well, man, it's clear Ice is

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01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:38,559
Speaker 2: not going to take this garb. But it's not gonna

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01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 2: take you screaming and yelling at them or anything like that.

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01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:42,639
Speaker 2: You're not allowed to push on them and on them,

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Speaker 2: absolutely positively not. But how it's going to be seen

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01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 2: is dude, Dude, you were just you were just angry,

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01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:53,560
Speaker 2: You got infuriated, and you lost control of your emotions.

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01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 2: Now you're going to lose your gig. Now you're going

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01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 2: to lose your gig. Something's gonna happened. You lost control.

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Speaker 2: And I would actually argue that Ice should make that decision,

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Speaker 2: because you shouldn't accept things that are outside the realm

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Speaker 2: of your own standards and practices. You should be the

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Speaker 2: one upholding them. Don't worry about what the left does.

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Speaker 2: Let me give you an example. Did I say this

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Speaker 2: when members of Congress were pushing and screaming and shoving

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Speaker 2: and going at ICE officials like Leman Ka mc iver

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Speaker 2: there in New Jersey. She should have been expelled from

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Speaker 2: Congress by the way. Shamefully, she wasn't weak stuff, Speaker

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01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:46,800
Speaker 2: Johnson weak stuff pushing back on her. You didn't see

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Speaker 2: me having an issue with any of that. Look what

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Speaker 2: she was doing. I do think this is going to

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Speaker 2: play much much differently because that was a member of Congress,

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Speaker 2: clearly invested it, involved in a political stunt. This is

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Speaker 2: a distraught wife.

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Speaker 3: That's how a place, that's how it plays.

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Speaker 2: So I won't be surprised that Ice does say something

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Speaker 2: here and do something here. You can't lose control of

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Speaker 2: your emotions. As a guy who has done it before

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Speaker 2: in his life, I'm just here to give some practical advice,

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01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:23,760
Speaker 2: and I think he's going to deal with the consequences.

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01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:27,799
Speaker 2: But the idea that people think that they can push

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01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:30,880
Speaker 2: at a law enforcement and scream and yell and attack

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Speaker 2: and nothing's going to happen. Nope, Nope, that that ain't

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Speaker 2: gonna work either. This is a distraught woman. There should

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Speaker 2: have been three or four people there to escort her out,

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Speaker 2: as opposed to this one guy having to deal with it.

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Speaker 2: But I think he lost control of his emotions, and

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Speaker 2: I think he's going to have to deal with that,

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Speaker 2: and I think I should want him to have to

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01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:53,559
Speaker 2: deal with that. They're going to have to make some

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01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:58,160
Speaker 2: move about this, because the argument you don't want to

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01:30:58,160 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 2: make to America is we'll rough you up if you cry.

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01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:05,800
Speaker 2: The argument you want to make is our job is

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01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:09,800
Speaker 2: to get legal immigrants off the streets, and we're doing that.

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Speaker 2: That's the whole I mean, that's it, that's where it ends.

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Speaker 2: That's our job. People are gonna cry, people are gonna

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01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:18,840
Speaker 2: be upset. We have to manage those emotions. But it

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01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:21,240
Speaker 2: won't ever let us not do the job. It won't

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Speaker 2: ever stop us from doing the job. We'll see how

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Speaker 2: they respond.

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Speaker 3: I'm Tony Katz.

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Speaker 2: stories that took place this week that I didn't get

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Speaker 2: to or I don't think I gave enough coverage to

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Speaker 2: believe Tony Katz dot com subscribe right now. We talked

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Speaker 2: a little bit about and being labeled a terrorist group.

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Speaker 2: This is good and valuable and important, and they are.

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01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:11,920
Speaker 2: And yet we still have people out there who want

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Speaker 2: to tell you that these group of so called anti fascists,

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Speaker 2: they're they're not a problem. It was it was Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden who told you it's it's an idea, it's it's

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Speaker 2: not a group. Told told you this, lied to you,

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Speaker 2: without question, lied to you. And then there are people,

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Speaker 2: I think it was Dan Goldman, the congressman from New York,

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Speaker 2: was like, well, well, show me, show me one of

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Speaker 2: these people, show me one of these Antifa people. Well,

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Speaker 2: they're masked up and everything else, and they're destroying property

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Speaker 2: and going after immigrations and customs and enforcement agents and

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Speaker 2: going after other law enforcement. And we know now that

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Speaker 2: when it comes to this, you've got the guy who

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Speaker 2: was shooting at ICE agents in Dallas. Oh, well he

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01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 2: killed a detainee. He didn't killed I mean from ICE.

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Speaker 2: You don't know what that was about. You don't have

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Speaker 2: a motive. These people are, of course certifiable. Of course

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Speaker 2: we have the motive. We have now the information handwritten

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Speaker 2: notes recovered that read quote, hopefully this will give ICE

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Speaker 2: agents real terror to think, is there a sniper with

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Speaker 2: armor piercing rounds on that roof. The objective was to

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Speaker 2: go after ICE agents. The objective was to instill fear

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Speaker 2: into ICE agents. And this guy was using those apps

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01:33:40,360 --> 01:33:43,960
Speaker 2: that they tracked ICE agents with. That's what he was doing.

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Speaker 2: He's been planning something like this for months and then

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01:33:47,479 --> 01:33:50,479
Speaker 2: looked into what happened regarding the Charlie Kirk assassination and

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01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:56,440
Speaker 2: tried to learn from that. The violence of the left

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Speaker 2: goes without saying. That is not a counting of any

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Speaker 2: violence that happens on the political right. It is a

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01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:07,639
Speaker 2: saying of you have over the years demanded this. Now

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01:34:07,680 --> 01:34:10,519
Speaker 2: you're getting what you demand. And you'll note there is

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Speaker 2: no real push at all from any leftist leadership to

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Speaker 2: make it stop. Antifa doesn't exist. Show me somebody who's

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01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:24,759
Speaker 2: part of Antifa. That's the proof. That's the proof. ICE

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Speaker 2: agents get shot at. And the left says, well, look

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Speaker 2: at what ICE is doing. Look at what ICE is doing.

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Speaker 2: They're doing their job. Here's just a small list. This

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Speaker 2: was from over at Newsmax, Mark Swanson reporting, you have

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Speaker 2: members of an Antifa cell ambushing officers and an ICE

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Speaker 2: facility in Albaredo, Texas, shooting one in the neck.

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Speaker 3: That was July three.

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Speaker 2: Antifa members charged with assaulting a police officer during a

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Speaker 2: violent riot outside an ICE facility in Portland. This is

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Speaker 2: just the stuff with ice, but more on Antifa. A

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Speaker 2: transgender ANTIFA supporter allegedly detonating an explosive outside the office

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Speaker 2: of Alabama's Republican Attorney General. That's February of twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: July of twenty twenty, Antifa members linked to a group

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Speaker 2: called Jane's Revenge firebomb pro life centers vandalizing churches. Do

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01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:20,040
Speaker 2: we not talk about the vandalizing of churches anymore? Canada

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01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:23,280
Speaker 2: has had this issue church is being set on fire.

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Speaker 2: January of twenty twenty two. Suspected Antifa member arrested for

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Speaker 2: bringing a pipe bomb to a pro Trump event. Then

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Speaker 2: you have an Antifa supporter threatening to shoot police officers

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Speaker 2: and Trump supporters outside of the Florida capital.

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Speaker 3: And then, of course you can name.

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Speaker 2: Nine million other issues that took place during the George

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Speaker 2: Floyd riot times. Of course, Antifa is a terrorist organization

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Speaker 2: and their objective is to destroy America. Now, somebody might ask,

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Speaker 2: and I think that this question is foolhardy at this

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Speaker 2: stage of the game, what are their politics? I put

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Speaker 2: forth to you that the ANTIFA member has no politics.

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Speaker 2: The person who wants to burn it all down is

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01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:10,800
Speaker 2: not interested in your ideology. The person who wants to

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Speaker 2: burn it all down wants to know if you brought matches.

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Speaker 3: That's it. The ANTIFA member.

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Speaker 2: The anarchist, if that's what we're gonna call it. They

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Speaker 2: want to watch it burn That's all they care about.

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Speaker 2: And if it all burned down, if they were able

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Speaker 2: to burn down Western civilization and bring about their non

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Speaker 2: possible pseudo intellectual fever dream communist utopia, they would then

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Speaker 2: work to burn that down too. They can't help themselves.

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Speaker 3: This is who they are.

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Speaker 2: When you have nothing, when you have no soul, when

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Speaker 2: you have no purpose, when you have no focus, when

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Speaker 2: you cannot find joy, when you cannot see quite seriously

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Speaker 2: and easily that one thing is better better than another,

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Speaker 2: that somehow everything has to be destroyed, because destroying is

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Speaker 2: what makes you feel alive, if only temporarily, then you

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01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:13,160
Speaker 2: will destroy it. Now, when the communism is here, they're

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Speaker 2: gonna have a much harder time destroying because they're all

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Speaker 2: going to be in gulags.

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Speaker 3: You're dead.

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Speaker 2: But neither here nor there, they will still want to destroy.

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Speaker 2: Our issue is clearly a cultural one. In that regard,

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01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:31,120
Speaker 2: the ANTIFA member has no core, has no value system none.

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Speaker 2: I mean this goes to the idea of being anti capitalist.

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Speaker 2: You know how sad and ridiculous you have to be

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01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:41,040
Speaker 2: to be anti capitalist. And I mean that sad and ridiculous.

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01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:43,120
Speaker 2: And you might say, well, Toty, you're not getting anywhere

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Speaker 2: from name calling. If that's the worst name calling, well

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01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:49,760
Speaker 2: then my gosh, everybody's gotten very tepid.

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Speaker 3: All of a sudden.

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Speaker 2: Capitalism allows people to make choices. Capitalism allows people to thrive.

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01:37:56,800 --> 01:38:01,639
Speaker 2: Capitalism pulls people out of poverty, and capitalism enables options.

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01:38:03,240 --> 01:38:08,120
Speaker 2: And no system that they consider provides that much good.

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01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:13,320
Speaker 2: There is not good being provided for utilizing any of

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Speaker 2: the plans from Bernie Sanders. They're just not Bernie Sanders'

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01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:20,240
Speaker 2: entire plan is the use of the barrel of the

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Speaker 2: gun to take And if he says to me, we're

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Speaker 2: not doing that, we're just passing laws, my case is rested.

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Speaker 2: I get that we're a nation of laws, and I

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Speaker 2: like that we're a nation of laws. Are we going

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Speaker 2: to question whether or not government is force? Government is

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Speaker 2: force always and.

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Speaker 3: At all times.

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Speaker 2: Which is why I favor the minimum amount of government,

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Speaker 2: the minimum amount to achieve the maximum amount of liberty.

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Speaker 2: This is again a conversation about liberty versus freedom. Forgive

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Speaker 2: me excuse me there. I'm a believer in liberty. The

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Speaker 2: freedom society doesn't have as many safeguards and protections the

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Speaker 2: liberty society, where we value the rule of law and

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Speaker 2: a system creates order. There are boundaries, there are guidelines,

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Speaker 2: there are rules. You know how to live within them,

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01:39:12,240 --> 01:39:16,479
Speaker 2: and therefore you're more free to act and interact. I

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Speaker 2: want a justice system to enforce contracts and protect personal

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Speaker 2: rights and property rights. The antifa people don't believe in

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Speaker 2: property rights. The anti capitalist doesn't believe in property rights.

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Speaker 2: Do you know how twisted it is not to believe

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Speaker 2: in property rights? Without property rights, you cannot be free. Now,

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Speaker 2: I have always shared it this way, that if you

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Speaker 2: cannot say no, you can't be free. But the original,

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Speaker 2: I guess I would call the more traditional argument is

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Speaker 2: the idea that if you cannot own real property, you

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Speaker 2: are not free. So if I have I don't know,

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Speaker 2: a pen. I'm holding on to a pen, right here?

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Speaker 2: Does that sound like a pen? That's my pen? And

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01:40:06,960 --> 01:40:09,760
Speaker 2: I'm holding on to this pen. And then you take

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Speaker 2: this pen from me and tell me I can't have

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Speaker 2: this pen, and that you decide who has the pen.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a free person. I have to be able

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Speaker 2: to own this. When we talk about real property, we're

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Speaker 2: not necessarily talking about real estate. This is mine. It

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01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:23,800
Speaker 2: belongs to me, and it cannot be taken from me

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01:40:23,880 --> 01:40:26,400
Speaker 2: by force. And if it is taken from me by force,

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01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:31,680
Speaker 2: I have recourse via a system of justice. But if

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Speaker 2: the pen can be taken from me by someone who

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Speaker 2: decides whether or not I get pens and then requires

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Speaker 2: of me certain things in order to get the pen,

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Speaker 2: I am not a free person. I'm not How could

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Speaker 2: anybody not favor property rights? Property rights are fundamental to

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Speaker 2: the concept of freedom because to accept a property right

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Speaker 2: is to accept the rights that it exists from nature

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Speaker 2: and Nature's God. It is that I exist. I have

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Speaker 2: the right to my life. I have the right to

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Speaker 2: my liberty. Hey, how about was just throw in the

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Speaker 2: pursuit of happiness? And if I am able to acquire, achieve,

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Speaker 2: a procure, a pen name the thing. Then it does

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Speaker 2: indeed through my own work or my own good fortune.

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Speaker 2: Then it does indeed belong to me. If I did

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Speaker 2: not steal it from another, if I did not engage

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Speaker 2: in some elicit or legal activity to engage it, to

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Speaker 2: procure it from another, it is mine. How could that

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Speaker 2: be anything other than exactly what we want. The whole

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Speaker 2: concept of the laws of nature, the very idea that

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Speaker 2: you have this life and it belongs to you. It

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Speaker 2: was Tim Kaine who, in one of the more ugly

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Speaker 2: statements ever made, actually pushed the idea that rights only

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Speaker 2: from government.

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Speaker 17: The notion that rights don't come from laws and don't

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Speaker 17: come from the government, but come from the creator. That's

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Speaker 17: what the Iranian government believes. It's a theocratic regime that

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Speaker 17: bases its rule on Shia law and target Sunnies behinds, Jews, Christians.

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Speaker 2: And other religious minorities.

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Speaker 17: And they do it because they believe that they understand

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Speaker 17: what natural rights are from their creator. So the statement

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Speaker 17: that our rights do not come from our laws or.

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Speaker 3: Our governments is extremely troubling.

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Speaker 2: The guy has never read the Constitution of the United States.

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Speaker 2: I totally get that that is the backwards perversion. That

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01:42:44,920 --> 01:42:49,759
Speaker 2: is the perversion and one we should well push ourselves

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Speaker 2: away from, which is why we should be so appreciative

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Speaker 2: that we see the Trump administration moving to label Antifa

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Speaker 2: terrorist group, because it is because Antifa is making the

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Speaker 2: claim that you should not have rights. You don't have

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Speaker 2: the right to walk down the street, you don't have

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Speaker 2: the right to speak as you choose, you don't have

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Speaker 2: the right to vote for who you choose. They believe

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Speaker 2: in intimidation, they believe in destruction. They are not people

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Speaker 2: who believe that you have the right to your property.

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Speaker 2: Their question is who brought the matches want to burn

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01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:29,880
Speaker 2: it all down? And how does that happen? Because perversions

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01:43:29,960 --> 01:43:34,120
Speaker 2: like Tim Kaines play in other ways, like the perversion

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01:43:34,160 --> 01:43:37,639
Speaker 2: of Marxism, the perversion that Karl Marx really had something

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01:43:37,640 --> 01:43:41,439
Speaker 2: to offer, the perversion that what Bernie Sanders is offering

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01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:44,679
Speaker 2: up and has been offering up for decades is anything

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Speaker 2: more than violence, the barrel of the government gun directly

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Speaker 2: in your mouth, saying you agree, don't you? You'll comply,

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Speaker 2: won't you.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly what it is.

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Speaker 2: And now it's people like representive Alexandria Costu Cortes and

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01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:02,839
Speaker 2: the squad that want to hold.

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Speaker 3: The trigger while you are forced to comply.

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Speaker 2: We're in such a bigger conversation here than just a

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01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:18,000
Speaker 2: group like Antifa or this politician or that politician. We

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01:44:18,040 --> 01:44:21,320
Speaker 2: are into the fundamentals of what kind of society do

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01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:24,400
Speaker 2: we want, what kind of society do we value?

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Speaker 3: How do we want to make this happen?

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Speaker 2: And I think we need to make it happen with

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Speaker 2: the rule of law capitalism, And I think we should

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01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:36,240
Speaker 2: be absolutely unapologetic in saying so, recognize that it's better

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Speaker 2: just based on the history perfect. I didn't say perfect.

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Speaker 2: What the bloody heck is perfect? I don't even know

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Speaker 2: what it is. We the people in order to form

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Speaker 2: a more perfect union, not form a perfect union. You

1566
01:44:51,160 --> 01:44:54,759
Speaker 2: work there, you get there. I'm not arguing that anything's perfect.

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01:44:55,040 --> 01:44:57,760
Speaker 2: I'm arguing that capitalism is the best system devised by

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Speaker 2: man thus far. And these Marxists, these antifas, these Bernie

1569
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Speaker 2: Sanders supporting fools, ain't got nothing. Antifa is a terrorist organization.

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Speaker 2: Who cares what Joe Biden or Dan Goldban or anybody

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Speaker 2: else says. We know what is let us vote for

1572
01:45:14,920 --> 01:45:18,240
Speaker 2: people who put an end to such organizations who prosecute

1573
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Speaker 2: people engaged in such violence. And let's make sure the

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Speaker 2: people who want the matches never get elected to positions

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Speaker 2: where they're close to the fuse. I'm Tony Katz, and

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Speaker 2: this is Tony Katz today. And one of the other

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Speaker 2: stories I didn't get to this week is this statue

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Speaker 2: that was on the National Mall Tony Katz, Tony Katz today,

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Speaker 2: Good to be with you. People have free time, man.

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Speaker 2: That's the part that amazes me. Someone or some group

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Speaker 2: put a statue on the National Mall there in Washington,

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Speaker 2: d C. In honor of Friendship Month, and it's a

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Speaker 2: statue of Donald Trump with Jeffrey Epstein and they've got

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Speaker 2: their right hands out and they're standing next to each other.

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Speaker 2: Trump on the right, Epstein on the left. It doesn't

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Speaker 2: really look like Epstein, and they're holding hands and the

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01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:12,479
Speaker 2: right hand is up in the air and their.

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Speaker 3: Right leg is up like they're frolicking.

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Speaker 2: It's very, very weird, and it falls into one of

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01:46:19,160 --> 01:46:24,840
Speaker 2: the weirdest, most strange narratives out there that somehow the Epstein.

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Speaker 3: Files are just so bad for Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: The Epstein files to the extent that they exist, meaning

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Speaker 2: how many names are in them, etc. Because we've heard

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01:46:35,360 --> 01:46:37,680
Speaker 2: that it doesn't exactly exist. The way we think it

1595
01:46:37,720 --> 01:46:42,120
Speaker 2: does is about who was abusing children. That's what we

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01:46:42,160 --> 01:46:48,120
Speaker 2: want to know. As we've said here a bajillion times,

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Speaker 2: just because you may be listed in the files doesn't

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Speaker 2: meaning to anything wrong. Jeffrey Epstein hung around with a

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Speaker 2: lot of very wealthy people in those crowds. It doesn't

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Speaker 2: mean they did anything wrong. The question is where are

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Speaker 2: you on the island abusing young women? Were you involved

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Speaker 2: in the sex trafficking of children? And if you were

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Speaker 2: to jail you go. The longer we go without releasing

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01:47:12,320 --> 01:47:15,120
Speaker 2: some part of these files in a way that is

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01:47:15,160 --> 01:47:18,800
Speaker 2: not something we don't already know publicly. The longer it goes,

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01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:22,200
Speaker 2: the more ammunition the Trump administration is giving the left.

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Speaker 2: And that's the fault of Pambondy, the Attorney general. And

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01:47:25,880 --> 01:47:27,920
Speaker 2: when Trump said this is no big deal, why are

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01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:31,120
Speaker 2: you paying attention to this? He read the room wrong,

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01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:37,120
Speaker 2: and it's still haunting. Can't just release some stuff. It's

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Speaker 2: not even that the statue, it's just it keeps the

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Speaker 2: conversation going. And me, I'd love the information, so I

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Speaker 2: can know who to go after, who violated the rights

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Speaker 2: of children, and then we can move on to other

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Speaker 2: subjects too. Find everything at Tony Katts dot com. Monday, everyone,

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Speaker 2: take care,