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Speaker 1: Okay, we have good news and bad news here in

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Speaker 1: our visit with head coach of the Fever, Stephanie White.

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Speaker 1: Fever in Action tonight taken on Dallas. They have won,

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Speaker 1: coming back snapping a two game skid with their win

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Speaker 1: over the weekend with Chicago seven thirty tonight against Dallas.

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Speaker 1: And here's the good news, Eddie. The good news is,

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Speaker 1: when I asked coach Stephanie White what music she'd like

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Speaker 1: to hear, we got her off the country. That's the

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Speaker 1: good news, right. The bad news is she went with

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Speaker 1: that song. What do you have against that song? Come

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Speaker 1: on now? I mean, like, I like the genre, I

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Speaker 1: just don't like that particular song. So Stephanie White joining

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Speaker 1: us now, obviously, Stephanie, that's a song of your liking? Correct?

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Speaker 1: Is there a history with that song?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I'm a nineties child, so.

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Speaker 3: I used to listen to Black Street.

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Speaker 2: I'm showing my versatility too, Okay, what we've been on

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Speaker 2: a country kick lately, but I was, you know, I

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Speaker 2: was like, let me let's go back, let's bring it

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Speaker 2: back to the nineties. And They're a number that ran

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Speaker 2: through my head and that one was the top of

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Speaker 1: So true story. Yesterday, someone comes up to me and

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Speaker 1: says and sings to me. They said, oh, by the way,

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Speaker 1: I saw you walking down the hall, and I'm thinking,

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Speaker 1: then they said, I'm just kidding. That's a line from

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Speaker 1: an Oasis song. And I know that you went to

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Speaker 1: go see them, because how did Stephanie White not know Oasis?

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Speaker 1: And I said, yeah, see, exactly so. And then the

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Speaker 1: thing that most stunned me is that meant that somebody

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Speaker 3: Radio show, right, which.

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Speaker 1: I was thrilled about. Right, Hey, I want to begin

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Speaker 1: with and obviously one of the topics of conversation is

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Speaker 1: going to be talking about the latest signing for the Fever.

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Speaker 1: But before we go there, Coach, I want to talk about,

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Speaker 1: and I mean this with all sincerity, the cool signings

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Speaker 1: that you guys did. And I don't mean Odyssey Simms

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Speaker 1: because we're going to get to that, but I thought

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Speaker 1: it was absolutely fabulous. I know it's not new or

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Speaker 1: unique to the franchise. I think you guys have done

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Speaker 1: it before, but to be able to sign not one,

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Speaker 1: part of the special Olympics Indiana that you guys did yesterday,

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Speaker 1: I thought was awesome and I would assume for you

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Speaker 1: that had to be as much a privilege of anything

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Speaker 3: It absolutely was. And to to see these young.

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Speaker 2: Women come in and watch practice and the signing of

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Speaker 2: the contracts after practice, and their excitement and our team's

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Speaker 2: excitement and welcome, welcome, welcoming them into our team and

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Speaker 2: into our family, it was I mean, you know, everything

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Speaker 2: that we do certainly is is about basketball. But but

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Speaker 2: but most things that we do are are bigger than basketball,

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Speaker 2: and that was certainly one of them. And the impact

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Speaker 2: top of the list. And it really was a cool experience.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: So obviously, from the roster standpoint for you guys, Odyssey

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Speaker 1: Simms is a player and I hate to say signed

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Speaker 1: to a hardship contract because it makes it sound like

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Speaker 1: it was some sort of a charitable thing. It's not that.

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Speaker 1: It's the fact that you guys were from a standpoint

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Speaker 1: to that. But in terms of Odyssey Sims, when you

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Speaker 1: get a point guard, was it a factor for you.

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Speaker 1: This is a player in Odyssey Sims, who has been

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Speaker 1: a very good player in the WNBA and plays the

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Speaker 1: if this was a factor in the selection of her,

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Speaker 1: is this is not unique to her either. And by

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Speaker 1: that I mean the challenge of joining a team in

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Speaker 2: It absolutely is. She hasn't had experience with this. She

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Speaker 2: pick up offenses, you know, really quickly. She adds a

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Speaker 3: And you know, one of the things when we.

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Speaker 3: And having a.

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Speaker 2: Compliment to Kasey and somebody else that you can put

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Speaker 1: The situation that we were in, which is coach from

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Speaker 1: a coaching standpoint, which which sometimes can be a bigger

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Speaker 2: Know, I think they each present challenges probably, you know,

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Speaker 2: when you're struggling and you you may or you may

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Speaker 2: and I think now the situation that we're in, it's

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Speaker 3: You know. But but I think each situation lends itself to.

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Speaker 2: Really just the type of people that we have on

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Speaker 3: They they they rise.

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Speaker 2: To the occasion when when when we face adversity, and

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Speaker 2: of those things are important. And we've seen it through

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Speaker 3: Through through injury and rush changes and all of that.

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Speaker 2: And we've seen it when we've gone through some slumps

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Speaker 3: And they they have continued.

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Speaker 2: To stay together, They've continued to stay the course, and

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Speaker 2: of those things matter, and all those things are the

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Speaker 1: I've always marveled Stephanie White is our guest head coach

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Speaker 1: of the Fever. They're in action tonight taking on Dallas

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Speaker 1: seven thirty. Tip. I've always marveled coach at professional athletes

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Speaker 1: a media standpoint, from a football standpoint of talking to

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Speaker 1: that was complex, it was a foreign language to me,

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Speaker 1: and realizing the intellect capacity that goes into an elite

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Speaker 1: typically does it take a player to learn a playbook

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Speaker 1: so to speak? Or in reality, is everybody kind of

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Speaker 1: running the same sets but just under kind of different disguise?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, I think.

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Speaker 2: teams are running similar actions. It's it's it's just positioning

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Speaker 3: Uh to create the most spacing, to get people in

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Speaker 2: and and so I think all things are very similar,

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Speaker 2: you know. I think for us, how we do things

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Speaker 2: You know, some some things can be and and more

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Speaker 2: you know, offensively, defensively, you know, we're we're we're probably

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Speaker 3: Next level actions.

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Speaker 2: You know, year one is is is putting in the

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Speaker 2: I think for us, the ability to implement new players

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Speaker 1: How much of a play at the w n B

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Speaker 1: how often is a is it just one play that's designed?

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Speaker 2: So old school with your play verbage, your play terminology.

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Speaker 1: I'm old school about everything. I am too, except for

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Speaker 2: Apparently apparently, Well you're old school, like eighties, I'm you know.

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Speaker 1: Listen, we can drop the school. I'm old.

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Speaker 2: Let's just go with old But no, you know it really,

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Speaker 2: for us, it's about actions and how teams play us

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Speaker 1: So it's a matter of making sure, is it not,

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Speaker 1: then coach, that all five players know exactly what the

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Speaker 1: instinctive reaction of motion is, right, Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and that to me is what is amazing.

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Speaker 1: Is I think that we don't give players enough credit

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to list for you the top ten

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Speaker 1: driving around, You're right, yes, Shania Twain.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Madonna yes, Backstreet Boys.

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Speaker 1: We covered that one. Mariah Carey, Mariah Carey, Yes. Would

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Speaker 3: But go ahead, Yeah, that has to be Twain.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I believe this artist is also Canadian? And I

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Speaker 1: Who Celine Dion?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Did you really? Did she just sing that Titanic song

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Speaker 3: And then least? She has a lot of great songs.

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Speaker 1: That's our next one, Eddie Hoody in the Blowfish. Whody

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Speaker 4: Next?

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Speaker 1: And I promise next time I mentioned the picket fence

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Speaker 1: I got to get more in the New score, right, Yes,

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Speaker 2: Can't share.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right. Just knock this one down, don't pay attention,

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Speaker 3: Go all the way. That's right.

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Speaker 1: Coach, appreciate it tonight seven thirty against Dallas. Best of luck.

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Speaker 1: Always appreciate the conversation. Thank you all right, Stephanie White

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Speaker 1: joining us on the program. Steven Older joins us now,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure thrilled to be doing so. ESPN dot Com,

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Speaker 1: where you can read his work, ESPN Television, where you

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Speaker 1: can often see his work, especially this time of year. Steven,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to begin with a curveball question for you

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of moving parts to that one. Let's

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Speaker 4: there will be a team that that is not represented,

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Speaker 4: in other word, from the state.

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Speaker 1: Not that assume let's say the Colts were to win

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Speaker 1: the division, I would assume Notre Dame makes the College

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Speaker 1: Football Playoff, right.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's true.

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Speaker 1: If the Texans win the division, I'm assuming that Texas

446
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Speaker 1: wins the College Football Playoff for sure. If the Titans

447
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Speaker 1: win the division, Tennessee is very questionable in that regard,

448
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Speaker 1: but they could make it, right they could. Then it

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Speaker 1: comes down to, if the Jaguars were to win the division,

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Speaker 1: do your Florida do your Miami Hurricanes make it in?

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Speaker 1: Because I don't think Florida or Florida State does, right.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they're not. They're certainly not predicted to be.

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Speaker 4: Although Florida has a really good quarterback and I think

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Speaker 4: they overall were a bad team last year, but they

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Speaker 4: finished pretty strong and the quarterback is in a couple

456
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Speaker 4: of years, could be like a top five pick.

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Speaker 1: Okay, anyway, so let me ask you this question. If

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Speaker 1: Florida has a really good quarterback, is that the first

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Speaker 1: time you've been able to say that in the last

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Speaker 1: ten years.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I think that's probably true. Yes, they've had quarterbacks,

462
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Speaker 4: they always have one, but can you name them? Yeah?

463
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Speaker 4: I think that's probably true. So hey, listen, you know,

464
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Speaker 4: we got our own quarterback issues down at Miami trying

465
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Speaker 4: to replace cam Ward, but you know Carson beck Is.

466
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Speaker 4: There are definitely worse options, So I'm interested to see

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Speaker 4: how that goes. But to your original question, I definitely

468
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Speaker 4: think Miami's I'm sorry, Florida has probably got Florida and

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Speaker 4: Tennessee probably got the the weaker cases of those of

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Speaker 4: those teams that you talked about.

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Speaker 1: And also probably the two franchises that would be if

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Speaker 1: you were to rank the AFC South of likelihood in division,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's Houston first, and then who do you

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Speaker 1: put second?

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Speaker 4: Well, that's a great question. I I think the Colts

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Speaker 4: are second, and I forget about last year or the

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Speaker 4: year before. I just think right now. I think if

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Speaker 4: you look at the quality of team top the bottom,

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Speaker 4: I like the Colts behind Houston. They have the biggest

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Speaker 4: wildcard at quarterback though, right the quarterback position I think

481
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Speaker 4: is the biggest wildcard for them. So that's why predicting

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Speaker 4: the Colts is tough because you don't know what you're

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Speaker 4: getting at quarterback. But I do think their team overall now,

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Speaker 4: assuming these injuries slow down at some point, I do

485
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Speaker 4: think their team overall pretty strong and I think can

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Speaker 4: contend for the division just on the strength of that.

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Speaker 4: The quarterback will decide, you know, whether they're higher or

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Speaker 4: lower than expectations.

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Speaker 1: I think steven. In terms of positions for the Colts,

490
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Speaker 1: the quarterback is the one that is a big question mark.

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Speaker 1: But let's go to cornerback and defensive backs in general.

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Speaker 1: And this is one that I will give the Colts credit.

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Speaker 1: They've had good depth. I think Chris Ballard has built

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Speaker 1: on this roster coming in. But now Attrician already rearing

495
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Speaker 1: its ugly head. Where do things stand first and foremost

496
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Speaker 1: in terms of the corners that are hurt and the

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Speaker 1: possibility that they could miss let's say week one, Well.

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Speaker 4: I mean at least for right now. Let's we'll get

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Speaker 4: to week one in a second, but for right now,

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Speaker 4: I'm about to go out there and start running forties.

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Speaker 4: So make sure I can get in shape because they

502
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Speaker 4: may call on me at this point. It's not great.

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Speaker 4: I think that you know, we have already established Justin

504
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Speaker 4: Wallis out for the season. We are also monitoring Jalen Jones,

505
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Speaker 4: and that one doesn't seem to have had a lot

506
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Speaker 4: of progress with that hamstring. Injury due Drew Brent's same thing,

507
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Speaker 4: although he might be his might be a little less

508
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Speaker 4: serious than Jalen Jones. The corners that are playing in

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Speaker 4: practice right now, I mean you're talking about Jonathan Edwards

510
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Speaker 4: and Samuel Womack. I mean that's who's out there, and

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Speaker 4: obviously Shivarius Ward, who you can pencil in as number

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Speaker 4: one and in fact you can write it in pen

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Speaker 4: But outside of him, you know, you're talking about guys

514
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Speaker 4: who were supposed to be you know, the fourth, fifth

515
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Speaker 4: options are now the second and third options, right, So

516
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Speaker 4: that's not great. Now, I wouldn't say that week one

517
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Speaker 4: is in jeopardy yet. I think there, I think they're

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Speaker 4: still pretty hopeful. And Kenny Moore, by the way Kenny

519
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Speaker 4: Moore went down the other day, I was pretty worried

520
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Speaker 4: about that one. But the early feedback is that is

521
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Speaker 4: not a serious injury. So I'm going to take them

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Speaker 4: at their word until I see otherwise. But not great.

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Speaker 4: It's not great, and that is such an important position.

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Speaker 4: The last thing I'll say, it is a really important

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Speaker 4: position in this defense, which is why this the secondary

526
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Speaker 4: in general, which is why you saw them approach it

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Speaker 4: the way they did. Big moves and free agency pretty

528
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Speaker 4: aggressive in the draft. They did what they had to

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Speaker 4: do because it's important.

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Speaker 1: Stephen If for an example, this is why I asked

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Speaker 1: the question about corner, give me other positions. This is

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Speaker 1: what I've been talking about today, and I want you to,

533
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Speaker 1: you know, take this and go further because I think

534
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Speaker 1: you would know better than the areas. This could be

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Speaker 1: the case if the Colts have to, based on attrition,

536
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Speaker 1: go with a corner or two that maybe they were

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Speaker 1: not originally anticipating having to keep on the roster with

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Speaker 1: the fifty three man that would come at the cost

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Speaker 1: of a player at what other position?

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Speaker 4: Oh for sure. I mean I was just talking to

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Speaker 4: an agent about the roster outlook right now, you know,

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Speaker 4: and just sort of where the pieces are going to

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Speaker 4: fit all together, and it is a puzzle, and I

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Speaker 4: think you are right. Defensive line was the position we

545
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Speaker 4: were talking about, Like how many defensive linemen can you keep?

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Speaker 4: Because two things. Number one, they like a lot of

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Speaker 4: those guys. And then number two, just historically Chris ballor

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Speaker 4: the GM has has really been predisposed to keeping a

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Speaker 4: lot of guys at that position. He's loved him some

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Speaker 4: defensive line, So I think that is the position that

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Speaker 4: could be impacted if in fact they have to keep

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Speaker 4: an additional corner or two, which is always possible. I

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Speaker 4: mean I've always noticed, and I'm sure you have too.

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Speaker 4: I mean that position corner in particular, they that is

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Speaker 4: where you really have to have. I think the most

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Speaker 4: depth of any maybe offensive line would be the other

557
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Speaker 4: but corner in particular. Those guys they get soft tissue injuries.

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Speaker 4: They're like race cars, you know, the whole, all the

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Speaker 4: all the cliches we use, it's true, and they're experiencing

560
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Speaker 4: that right now. So I think defensive line could be

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Speaker 4: directly impacted by that. And we'll have to see the

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Speaker 4: other one. I'd say, by the way, real quick is

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Speaker 4: possibly possibly tight in because there may be a question there,

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Speaker 4: and this is hypothetical, I don't know, but there may

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Speaker 4: be a question there of do you keep three or four?

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Speaker 4: Or can you keep three or four? And then should you?

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Speaker 4: But that's a different question.

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Speaker 1: Well, and that's so let's say I think they keep

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Speaker 1: four for sure. Let's let's go tight in. Steven Okay,

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Speaker 1: Steven Holder, our guest ESPN dot Com. Obviously, Tyler Warren Okay,

571
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Speaker 1: Boom done, Moale Cox.

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Speaker 4: What's that I've heard of? Tyler exactly?

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Speaker 1: Moaly Cox, I think very safely, we would say done right,

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Speaker 1: sold I think so okay. I think Drew Ogletree, I

575
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Speaker 1: think okay, And then I think I think personally and

576
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Speaker 1: you might even be able to say this guy above Ogletree,

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Speaker 1: Will Mallory. I think Will Mallory at this point, he's

578
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Speaker 1: had a really good camp and he's shown some things right.

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Speaker 1: It's hard.

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Speaker 4: I love, Yeah, I love the camp that Will Mallory

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Speaker 4: has had. It's completely unexpected. I didn't foresee it. But

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Speaker 4: I think he's made a strong enough bid that that

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Speaker 4: even the push that Jelanie Woods has made I think

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Speaker 4: has been basically canceled out by what Will Mallory has done.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I would agree.

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Speaker 1: So that's the thing that I've been saying, is Jelanni

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Speaker 1: Woods to me in this case, and Steven, the thing

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Speaker 1: I've been saying all show today, and you tell me

589
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Speaker 1: if if you disagree, is this is like selection Sunday

590
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Speaker 1: in the NCAA tournament, where if you've got to go

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Speaker 1: with a corner that you didn't think was going to

592
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Speaker 1: make the roster because of attrition. As an insurance policy.

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Speaker 1: That's a bid stealer. That's that small school that gets

594
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Speaker 1: him the tournament by winning their conference tournament. And Jelanni

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Speaker 1: Woods suddenly becomes the nineteen and twelve Texas A and

596
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Speaker 1: M that has left out. That's the guy to me

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Speaker 1: that I look at and go, I think they like him,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think there's room for him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's exactly right. Like I mean, in

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Speaker 4: a perfect world where you can keep you know, limitless tight,

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Speaker 4: then you want to take a longer look at Jalonnie Woods, right,

602
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Speaker 4: I mean they drafted him as a guy with a

603
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Speaker 4: lot of upside, the physical traits, all of those things, right,

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Speaker 4: But there's a couple of things. First, the obvious, he's

605
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Speaker 4: never done really anything in terms of consistent contributions because

606
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Speaker 4: he's been hurt, which is is what it is, right,

607
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Speaker 4: He's been hurt. It's kind of the ju Ju Brandt situation.

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Speaker 4: But the problem here is that he really doesn't have

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Speaker 4: anything invested with this current coaching staff. I mean, he

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Speaker 4: had he had a little bit of a run as

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Speaker 4: a rookie like three years ago. Now, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 4: he's draft he's in I think the class of what

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Speaker 4: twenty two or twenty three, I should say, I guess,

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Speaker 4: but twenty two, No, twenty two, and so the class

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Speaker 4: is twenty two. So in twenty three and twenty four

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Speaker 4: he's been completely sidelined, done nothing. So the Shaints I

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Speaker 4: can even know who he is. You know he has

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Speaker 4: no role and that he hasn't had any role for

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Speaker 4: this coaching staff in their offense. So now Will Mallory

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Speaker 4: has and maybe can build them what he did last year.

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Speaker 4: So I agree. I think think if it's one for

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Speaker 4: one there or one versus the other, I think Will

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Speaker 4: Mallory clearly has the edge if he has me steven.

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Speaker 1: Every year there is a player in the National Football League,

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Speaker 1: typically during the draft. This happens in the NBA as well,

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Speaker 1: where you later find out you'll hear from a scout

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Speaker 1: or an executive and they'll say, look, we're not gonna

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Speaker 1: lie to you. We actually were going and scouting player A.

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Speaker 1: And when we put the tape in. I think this

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Speaker 1: is how Darius Leonard got discovered. We put the tape

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Speaker 1: in and we're like, this other guy is in every play,

632
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Speaker 1: he's all over the field. Well let's look at it.

633
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Speaker 1: Let's take a further look at this guy. Give me

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Speaker 1: a player in this year's camp, I guess not named

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Speaker 1: say Will Mallory, but give me a player in this

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Speaker 1: year's camp that you were looking and evaluating a situational

637
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Speaker 1: battle and yet you were like, man, I can't overlook

638
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Speaker 1: this guy. He just keeps making plays. I didn't expect

639
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Speaker 1: that was going to be the case. And lo and behold,

640
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Speaker 1: they're not going to be able to keep him off

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Speaker 1: the roster.

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Speaker 4: So this guy's not new, but I think it kind

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Speaker 4: of applies to what you're talking about there. Tyler Goodson

644
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Speaker 4: at running back, who his I guess memorable moment and

645
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Speaker 4: his time with the Colts is dropping a fourth down

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Speaker 4: pass with the playoffs on the line two years ago, right,

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Speaker 4: and him crying tears understandably cocker room that night against

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Speaker 4: Houston in week seventeen or week eighteen. So certainly not

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Speaker 4: a memorable moment that or one you want to remember.

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Speaker 4: That's been his biggest mark that he's made with the Colts.

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Speaker 4: He is coming into camp this year giving him credit

652
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Speaker 4: here and had a really strong camp And I was

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Speaker 4: looking at that battle back there and kind of tagging

654
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 4: him maybe as the fourth guy, thinking, you know, Khalil Herbert,

655
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 4: maybe someone they brought in this offseason, someone who may

656
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 4: slide in there as number three behind DJ Gidden. So

657
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 4: I is number two behind Johnson and Tyler Gibson just

658
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 4: keeps showing up. And the other thing he's got thrown

659
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 4: for him is that he's a special teams demon and

660
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 4: he played a lot of special teams and he has

661
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 4: carved out a role there and that's the secret sauce. Right,

662
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 4: You've got to make yourself, You've got to make yourself

663
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 4: indispensable in some way, and special teams is how you

664
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 4: do that. So Tyler Goodson right now, I think he's

665
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 4: on the fifty three. So I think that's where this

666
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 4: is headed. With still a couple preseason games to go

667
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 4: and another joint practice, so things can change. But as

668
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 4: we sit here today, that's my call.

669
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: Okay, Now, a guy that will go the opposite that

670
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: you just assumed. Look, this is lockstock and barrel, and

671
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: the more that you've gone along camp, the more you go,

672
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: is the real version of this guy going to stand up?

673
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: Because I don't know what's going on, but he has

674
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: not performed.

675
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 4: Good question. I would say, hmm, this is a good question.

676
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 4: I guess I would say there's not as much of

677
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 4: a battle of the offensive line as I thought there

678
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 4: might be, you know, I mean the Tanner BORDERLINI was,

679
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 4: I think, always going to be the starting center. But

680
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 4: Danny Pincer, I mean, when they decided to keep him,

681
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 4: they kept talking about him, and they keep bringing him back,

682
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 4: and I thought that might be more of a battle

683
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 4: than it really wasn't apparently from what I can tell,

684
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 4: at least, So I don't know if that's exactly the

685
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 4: answer or an appropriate answer, but that never really materialized.

686
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 4: I'd say, And they have their offensive line, which is

687
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 4: a good thing, don't get me wrong. But certainly if

688
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 4: you can have more competition, that's never a bad thing.

689
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 4: I don't know that there was much of a competition there.

690
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was one. I still think Pincher though, And

691
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: you tell me if you disagree, Stephen, but I think

692
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: Pincer has a lot of value to them. I've been

693
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: higher on him, I think that most. But because of

694
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: the fact that he can Swiss army knife. A Look,

695
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: he might not be a seven at any position on

696
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 1: the LA, but he's a six at like two or

697
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: three different positions. And sometimes I'd rather have that guy

698
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: than a guy that is a solid nine but can't

699
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 1: go anywhere.

700
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 4: Well, at minimum, you need to have a backup center.

701
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 4: It's not it's like no other position, right. I mean,

702
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 4: you've got to know that this guy can snap reliably,

703
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 4: and he's before he started at the position many times,

704
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 4: so he's a reliable backup center and that'll keep you

705
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 4: on the roster at least, particularly when you have the

706
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 4: ability to also play guard if you need to, which

707
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 4: he does so I think his roster spot is mostly safe,

708
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 4: but I just don't think the starting competition has really materialized.

709
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: By the way. You know, who's got Let me ask

710
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: you who's got a better gig, Luke Rhodes or Rigoberto Sanchez.

711
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: Luke Roads, by the way, the long snapper, only long

712
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: snapper on the roster, he's one of Luke Rhodes is

713
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: literally one of thirty two one fucking growing men on

714
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: planet Earth that know how to long snap in the NFL.

715
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: I guess thirty three because Matt Overton still does it

716
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: and it like gets calls. And then Rigoberto Sanchez, you know,

717
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: punter and holder and got that pretty nailed down and

718
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: we don't say his name a lot, but pretty solid player, right.

719
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, first off, Luke Rhodes, for those who don't

720
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 4: know his story, do you know his story. The story

721
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 4: is fantastic. It's an amazing story. He got here, I

722
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 4: think under Ryan Grigson, came here as a linebacker and

723
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 4: you know, maybe slightly undersized or maybe not like the

724
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 4: you know, the most stunning athlete per se, but he definitely,

725
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 4: you know, he played hard. He definitely was a physical guy.

726
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 4: I mean, you look at him, you can tell he's

727
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 4: a physical guy. He's got muscles coming out of places

728
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 4: he didn't think there were supposed to be muscles. But anyhow,

729
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 4: that was never going to be his long term future.

730
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 4: He didn't have a long term future in the NFL

731
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 4: as a linebacker, at least just from what I saw,

732
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 4: although he did play in a couple of games late

733
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 4: in maybe like the two thousand and seventeen or sixteen

734
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 4: or seventeen seasons. So anyway, fast forward to that offseason

735
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 4: and they had some issue at long snapper. It's so

736
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 4: long ago, I don't even remember the details, and they

737
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 4: decided to try him out a long snapper.

738
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: It would have been just in snow right, I don't know.

739
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 4: That it was. I don't know who it was, to

740
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 4: be completely honest, it's too long ago. I don't remember.

741
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 4: All I remember is this started out as an experiment.

742
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 4: Let's see if this guy can snap, and he poured

743
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 4: himself into it. And when should freaking know the guy

744
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 4: becomes a Pro Bowl long snapper. I mean, it's it's

745
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 4: ridiculous that just never happens, right. But you talk about,

746
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 4: you know, being being open to, you know, to a

747
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 4: different idea. You know, most guys don't want to change positions,

748
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 4: you know, they're like, that's that's out there, especially from

749
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 4: linebacker to long snapper. I mean, you talk about a

750
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 4: hit to your ego, right, and it's like, oh, you

751
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 4: don't think I can play linebacker? You want me to

752
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 4: go snap the ball? What? And but he poured himself

753
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 4: into it, he worked at it, and it has been

754
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 4: the best thing that ever happened to him. He's now

755
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 4: on his third contract. It's it's absolutely a ridiculous story.

756
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 4: So I think he has kind of the best job

757
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 4: because you know, yeah, but.

758
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, he probably has the best job because

759
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 1: he's the only literally he's the only player on the roster.

760
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: Well Sanchez as well. They're the only players on the roster.

761
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: I think they have no backup, right, so there's job

762
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: security there.

763
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 4: How have you ever heard of of a long snapping battle.

764
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 4: They don't even bring in other long.

765
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: Snappers, right, that's right. Here's the thing.

766
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 4: I mean, they got two kickers in camp. They never

767
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 4: have two long snappers, right.

768
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: It's because you can't find too. There's only thirty two

769
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: guys and then Matt Overton. That's it, right, But.

770
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 4: You have to really suck for them to be like,

771
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 4: you know what.

772
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: You have to think about this though, You've got to

773
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,439
Speaker 1: You got to be able to bend all the way

774
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: down to look and like see back like way behind

775
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: you and snap it. Got you got to snap it.

776
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: And and then as soon as you snap it, you

777
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: have to then somehow stave off a guy that is

778
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: trying to run over you. I mean that would suck, right.

779
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 4: And then and then a full sprint down the field

780
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 4: to make a tackle.

781
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: Yeah that too. Yeah, I mean there's no security. Okay,

782
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: here's the thing in terms of long snapper. You and

783
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to this. I'm gonna guess, Okay,

784
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: I'm going to guess. Luke Rhodes College, and I should

785
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: know this. I should know this, but it's been forever

786
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: since he joined the roster, so it's been too long. Said. Look,

787
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: I'm sure when he joined I knew this. And probably

788
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: people in their cars all know this, Eddie without telling

789
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: me what it is. Do you happen to know the

790
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: College of Luke Rhodes.

791
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 5: I just looked it up during the conversations?

792
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 4: Is it?

793
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: Is it a Marquee football school? Don't tell me the school? No?

794
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: Is it a Division one school? Yes, Steven, do you

795
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: know the answer to this, by the way, and just football?

796
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: It's a Division one football school. But I do know

797
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: the answer Division one, but not basketball. Usually it's the

798
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: other way around. Right, Well, wait a.

799
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 4: Minute, I'm trying to remember now. I think they they're

800
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 4: definitely in one of those special categories.

801
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: Go William and.

802
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 4: Mary William serious?

803
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 2: Yes?

804
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: Yes, hold on now, Stephen, can you tell me the

805
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: last William and Mary and they're the tribe? By the way,

806
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,720
Speaker 1: can you tell me the last William and Mary player

807
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: that I believe started for the Indianapolis Colts not named

808
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: Luke Rhodes.

809
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 4: Uh No, but you can't.

810
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: True story, And I've I've told this before, but it's

811
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: worth repeating the the year of the Curtis Painter year

812
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: for the Colts. So before you were not here then,

813
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: where you, Steven or were you.

814
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 4: Like I was not okay a couple of years before me.

815
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, so very clearly, I think we can now realize

816
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,439
Speaker 1: that the Colts had a master plan of the suck

817
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: for luck right, and they knew that Peyton Manning was

818
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: not going to be healthy and whatever else. I was

819
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: doing an IndyCar race. I can't remember where we were.

820
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: It was the end of the year and the Colts

821
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: had just announced their roster completion, but they had like

822
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: two days and I was in the airport, I don't

823
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: remember what airport it was, and there were two Colts

824
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: players trying to get back to Indianapolis because they had

825
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: to report on Monday because they had made the roster.

826
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 1: And it was Nick I want to say, his last

827
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: name was Nick Johnson. They ended up trading. I mean,

828
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: he was a corner out of USC They traded into

829
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: Philly and then David Caldwell who was a safety out

830
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: of William and Mary, and our flight got canceled. We

831
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: were in Washington, d C. That's where we were we

832
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: were coming back from the Baltimore Race. Our flight got canceled,

833
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: and these two guys are standing there. We're all standing

834
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: there trying to figure out when we can fly home,

835
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: and they're like, there are no more flights tonight. You

836
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 1: got to come back tomorrow. And these guys were freaking out,

837
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: and so we all went to the rental car facility

838
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 1: to see about renting a car to drive back. And

839
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: these two rookie guys who just found out they made

840
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 1: an NFL roster, got the last rental car to drive

841
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: from Washington, DC to Indianapolis, and they drove back together

842
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: in a smart car, the last car they had, a

843
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: smart car, a smart car, two of them like like

844
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: Kermit and Fozzy driving in the STUDI baker across the countryside.

845
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: Except for that it was like ten o'clock on a

846
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: Sunday night and they had to report at like noon

847
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: the next day. And so I waited and got the

848
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: flight the next day, and then saw them at Colts

849
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 1: Camp like that, you know, you know, the Colts facility

850
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: a week later, and they and they told me the

851
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: whole story. They're like, oh my gosh, it was the worst.

852
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: It took fourteen hours and Da Da da and they

853
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: made it back just in the nick of time.

854
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 5: There are two NFL head coaches that went to William

855
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 5: and Mary, current coaches current.

856
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 1: Do you know that one? Steven?

857
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 4: Current head coaches? Yes?

858
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: Where did Mike Tomlin go?

859
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 5: Bingohler's one?

860
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 4: Listen?

861
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,439
Speaker 1: Listen to this. I mean, have you ever had more

862
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,439
Speaker 1: information spout off at the top of somebody's nogging about Willie?

863
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: And here's the thing, It's no, I know a lot

864
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 1: about Mary. William is the one where I'm clueless. But still,

865
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: I mean, this is in pressive. Who's the other?

866
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 4: I mean, well, what we've established here is that there

867
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 4: is an NFL line from William and Mary.

868
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: Correct, That's right. Who's the other one?

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00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 4: Eddie?

870
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 5: Sean McDermott really, and then Joe Brady, the offensive coordinator

871
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 5: for the Bills, is also from William and Mary.

872
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 4: Like I said, pipeline, pipeline.

873
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: Baby Steven who starts Week one at quarterback?

874
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 4: Oh, I am, I am just sort of, I would say,

875
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 4: just very It's a very small nod right now for me,

876
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 4: at least to Anthony richards Well.

877
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: And it's a part of that because Daniel Jones hasn't won.

878
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 4: It he has not in my opinion. In my opinion, okay,

879
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 4: because and I do think that matters, right if you

880
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 4: unless they're just lying to us and all this talk

881
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 4: about we still believe in Anthony Richardson. He's still you know,

882
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 4: he still has a future. Unless all that's just a

883
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 4: bunch of a bunch of smoke up our rare ends, Well,

884
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 4: then you got to walk the walk, and talking to

885
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 4: talk needs nothing. Walking the walk would be okay. We

886
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 4: wanted to bring in competition. We wanted to see if

887
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 4: he could, if we could get more out of him.

888
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 4: It seems that they have. Look, I'm not saying it's perfect.

889
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 4: And there are times in camp when Shames Siken's frustrated

890
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 4: and he doesn't make the play he supposed to make.

891
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 4: Oh that's true, Okay, this is not a coronation of

892
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 4: the guy being a Hall of Famer. I'm just saying,

893
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 4: if all of those things are true, that you still

894
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 4: believe all those things, and then we have Daniel Jones

895
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 4: doing what he has done so far, well then it's

896
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 4: hard in my mind to justify it. And you would

897
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 4: have to sit down and explain that to me. How

898
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 4: you arrive at that conclusion after everything you said and

899
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 4: what we saw in camp, that would to me be

900
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 4: a very difficult thing to explain. So I do have

901
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 4: a theory though about the quarterback situation. If you don't

902
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 4: doudge me for like thirty seconds, I think this is

903
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 4: This is my default answer for people who ask me.

904
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 4: So if you stop me at Kroger and you ask

905
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 4: me what I think, this is what I'm got to

906
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 4: tell you. I believe it. I think they end up

907
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 4: in the same place no matter who the quarterback is.

908
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 4: And this is what I mean by that, You're just

909
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 4: going to get there in different manners, meaning with Daniel

910
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 4: Jones very predictable, very very steady, not spectacular, Anthony somewhat spectacular,

911
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 4: somewhat frustrating, up down, left right, But ultimately you get

912
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 4: to the same place in different ways. I really think

913
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Speaker 4: that I know what that record is, but I think

914
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Speaker 4: that's where they are.

915
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I would agree with that. Both of

916
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: them are kind of like running a smart car. It

917
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: eventually gets you there, right.

918
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 4: Exactly, So neither guy is ideal right now, Anthony, Anthony

919
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 4: can change that.

920
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: You're right, I earlier today, the Colts are the Colts

921
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: right now in the NFL are the Minnesota of the

922
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: Big Ten. They're not terrible, They're okay. If there was

923
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 1: a little Caesar's Bowl in the NFL playoffs, the Colts

924
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: would be there. That that's where they are right now now,

925
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson, though it feels like gives you more possibility

926
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Speaker 1: of elevating to the Outback Bowl, but you just don't know.

927
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 4: All right, And even the potential the potential downsides there

928
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:18,720
Speaker 4: are injury and all that comes with that. Though, there's

929
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 4: that factor as well, which is why Daniel Jones is

930
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 4: here more.

931
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,439
Speaker 1: William and Mary chat next week. I promise maybe next

932
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: time we'll just, you know, we'll slide over and we'll

933
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: start talking Pittsburgh State or other random schools that contribute

934
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,720
Speaker 1: to the legacy of the NFL. Appreciate it as always, Stephen,

935
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: all right, I'll tell you soon, all right, Stephen Holder

936
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: from ESPN dot Com. Now I will admit, because we're

937
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: doing nineties music all day, right, this is a great song.

938
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Speaker 1: It's probably like one of those that didn't age well

939
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Speaker 1: necessarily because it's kind of cheesy, but it's very catchy,

940
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Speaker 1: is it not?

941
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 5: Most definitely I remember this song mainly because of being

942
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 5: in Shrek.

943
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Speaker 1: This was in Shrek. I've never seen that. That's about

944
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: a big fat guy. That's jolly right, it's an ogre.

945
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: Excuse me, he's an ogre? That is that a real term?

946
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 5: Yeah?

947
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: I think of Ogre from Revenge of the Nerds. You know,

948
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: you kind of look like Dudley okay, better known as Boger.

949
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: You kind of look like Bigger from Revenge of the

950
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: Nerds a little bit, right.

951
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 5: I've been told I look like uh Salvacana from a

952
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 5: Practical Jokers. Okay, it's better than Ogre, right, Yeah.

953
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Speaker 1: Scott Agnes, I'm sure thrilled to be joining us now

954
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: on based on that segue from field House Files Fever

955
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: in Action tonight taking on Dallas Pacers in the news

956
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: as well, Scott, I'll give you your pick. Pacers are fever

957
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,760
Speaker 1: you want to start with? Which, Let's start with pacers, Okay.

958
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:48,479
Speaker 1: I would like to know your thought on this. There's

959
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: part of me that when I saw that they are

960
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 1: going to start the year on national television against Oklahoma City,

961
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled by that. I think it's cool, and then

962
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: at the same time I have this like apprehension about

963
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 1: it because at the risk of sounding you know what,

964
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, man. The challenge here is the fact that

965
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: if they it's like a no win. If they lose

966
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: the game, people are gonna be like, see, they wouldn't

967
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: have beatn Oklahoma City anyway. And if they win it,

968
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: then you're gonna be like, man, if they just could

969
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 1: have done that, Like, it just feels like it's too soon.

970
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? It's too soon?

971
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 6: It does, But I think you're always going to have

972
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 6: that feeling Pacer fans will about. Look, they were up

973
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 6: at halftime and if not for that injury, Tyrees probably

974
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,439
Speaker 6: would have went for thirty points and the Pacers may

975
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 6: have won. That that's gonna tear Pacer fans up infinitely.

976
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 6: I think the good thing here is it allows for

977
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 6: that storyline of the Pacers being the great story along

978
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 6: with the Thunder to persist for that first week of

979
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 6: the year. And it's not the Pacers Jake going to

980
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 6: OKC and on the ring night, No, that'll be two

981
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 6: days earlier. It is the Pacers first game, but not

982
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 6: the Thunders. Therefore, I think that would have been that

983
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 6: would have stung. I don't think that would have been

984
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 6: fair to the Pacers. To put them back in OKAC

985
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 6: and on ring night.

986
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair. I mean the part about and for

987
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: Oak City I hired. Kevin mentioned this this morning. He's like, man,

988
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: is that a back to back for oak City? It's not,

989
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: but it's going to be. You know, it's not there

990
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: of the years or second Jack second, nobody says that.

991
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, by the way, we by the way, Jake, we

992
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 6: could mention too. Is even worse is Pacers scheduled them

993
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 6: for a preced game, so before that matchup, we're already

994
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 6: going to see them again OKAC in the preseason, by the.

995
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,399
Speaker 1: Way, too soon. Here's the thing. It's not like there's

996
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: some heated rival right, not at all. It's just you're like,

997
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: oh man, it's just and then you forget Scott. It's

998
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: so weird because you know that you're so excited about

999
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: and I am I mean for for the Pacers and

1000
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: everything they did. I mean, it was just it was

1001
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 1: so magical and it was so much fun, and this

1002
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: team is so likable, and then you just keep forgetting

1003
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: that two of its marquee pieces from a year ago

1004
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: are not going to be there, and one of them

1005
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: is not going to be back. I mean it's a

1006
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: very strange thing. Were you surprised though, that they did

1007
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: not get a not only that they didn't get a

1008
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: Christmas game, but that there's only one Eastern Conference Christmas game?

1009
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 6: It sure tells you what the league thinks about the East,

1010
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 6: doesn't it? Totally like that was my first indicator. I

1011
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,879
Speaker 6: was not surprised Pacers did not get Christmas Day. They

1012
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 6: never really do. They haven't since I think two thousand

1013
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 6: and four, and because they're not going to be at

1014
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 6: full strength with Tyrese I think otherwise you absolutely put

1015
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 6: that as the rematch, that is their first meeting rematch

1016
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 6: of the finals, but without it. The other thing here,

1017
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 6: if we're being honest, is it's a data company, ESPN

1018
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 6: and the networks, and they know Pacers and OKC is

1019
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 6: not going to outdraw one of the bigger teams. So

1020
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 6: the fact that the Celtics, who have been on since

1021
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 6: two thousand and fifty every year on Christmas Day, they

1022
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 6: didn't get chosen either, No way the Pacers would.

1023
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: Then Okay, Fever and Action. Tonight they are taking on Dallas.

1024
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: What we know is this odyssey Simms is in because

1025
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: of losing, you know, McDonald and Sidney Colson as well.

1026
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: This is a player We talked about it earlier with

1027
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: Stephanie White Scott, but for those that didn't hear it.

1028
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Speaker 1: The one thing about Odyssey Simms and I think is

1029
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: kind of advantage. Not only is it a skilled player

1030
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 1: and a veteran, but she has been in this situation

1031
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,959
Speaker 1: before of being kind of air dropped into a team

1032
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: in the middle of the season, and I think that's

1033
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: actually important to have somebody with that level experience in

1034
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: that unique situation. You agree, absolutely.

1035
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 6: And on top of that, she's a veteran, so this

1036
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 6: isn't a second or third year player still trying to

1037
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 6: prove what they can do and unfamiliar with the other

1038
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 6: teams in the league. No, She's been around, She's played

1039
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 6: for a half dozen teams, so there's a meat understanding.

1040
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 6: There has obviously some familiarity familiar with Erry McDonald as

1041
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 6: well a little bit in that backcourt. But I think

1042
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 6: she'll be used on a need basis here. They already

1043
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 6: have certain things that they like that have worked out.

1044
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 6: Reality is they just need some depth at that point

1045
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 6: guard for when players get injured or what have you.

1046
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 2: Still, I would.

1047
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 6: Expect maybe Sophie Cunningham, Kelsey Mitchell to still shoulder much

1048
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 6: of the load there at that point guard spot, but

1049
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 6: Sims will be a necessary piece here for the final

1050
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 6: dozen games of the regular season.

1051
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,760
Speaker 1: When we had Stephanie White on earlier Scott, I didn't

1052
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: and I probably failed in this regard, But there has

1053
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: been so much talk about Kaitlyn Clark and not much

1054
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,439
Speaker 1: movement of update there that I didn't ask Stephanie White

1055
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: because she talked about it yesterday. I should have asked

1056
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: for that update today. Has there been anything today or

1057
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,240
Speaker 1: at least within the last hour or so in terms

1058
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 1: of new news or movement on Kaitlyn Clark.

1059
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 6: No, and I wouldn't expect that at all. For one,

1060
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 6: they've kind of followed the Pacer script here is they're

1061
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 6: not doing morning shoot arounds at home anymore. They're doing

1062
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 6: the walkthroughs in the afternoon, so that allows for them

1063
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 6: to all just come to the arena an hour early.

1064
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 6: But she's still working on her own getting trying to

1065
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 6: get just healthy again. She's done a little bit more

1066
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 6: on the court, has not participated in any team practices,

1067
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 6: so like it it has been for the last three

1068
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 6: weeks or so, no real update and you just got

1069
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 6: to play the waiting game and hope for her to

1070
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 6: get as healthy as she can be before the regular season,

1071
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 6: but that clock is obviously taken fast for the remainder

1072
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 6: of the year.

1073
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say how long. It's crazy

1074
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: to say with the player as good as she is

1075
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: and as much as she means to this team, but

1076
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: how long realistically, Scott, do you think it goes? How

1077
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,240
Speaker 1: many games does she need do you think to get

1078
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: like completely acclimated, if you.

1079
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 6: Will, I'd say probably three, two to three for sure.

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Speaker 6: The challenge in all this is she's coming off where

1081
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Speaker 6: she'll be out at least a month, right, and so

1082
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Speaker 6: there's got to be a ramp up period, and the

1083
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Speaker 6: fact that you know she's not playing five on five

1084
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Speaker 6: up and down practice and anything like that means you

1085
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Speaker 6: obviously have to temper your expectations for probably both her

1086
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Speaker 6: workload and her usage with all this, because it's not

1087
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Speaker 6: like coming right into camp when you're in the best

1088
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Speaker 6: shape and you're ready to get going. She's gonna need

1089
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Speaker 6: some full practices to get in and then she'll probably

1090
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Speaker 6: need a couple of games at least to be back

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Speaker 6: in rhythm. She's already said earlier this season. First player

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Speaker 6: I've ever heard say this that I rather not have

1093
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Speaker 6: a minister restriction or not play at all, And so

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Speaker 6: I thought, but I think she's probably tweaked that that's

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Speaker 6: probably the younger, inexperienced side of her. A player that

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Speaker 6: hasn't dealt with injuries is the first fever for the team.

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Speaker 6: It's better if she can get out there for twenty

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Speaker 6: five minutes eventually here, regardless of despite maybe even having

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Speaker 6: that minister restriction, this is just also new that she's

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Speaker 6: having to figure it out on the fly here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's Scott. It's so you know, we've been

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Speaker 1: looking for so long from the time that Kaitlin Click

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Speaker 1: began missing games of that date, I think it's the

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Speaker 1: seventeenth that if they could get through that, then they

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Speaker 1: have like a four or five day period where then

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Speaker 1: the acclamation period from a practice standpoint can begin. And

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Speaker 1: at the time that we said that, that seemed like

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Speaker 1: almost absurd because it was so far out. Yet here

1109
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Speaker 1: we are now, right, I mean, we are getting close

1110
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Speaker 1: to that time, and then you wonder if it even

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Speaker 1: goes beyond that.

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Speaker 6: Right, absolutely, for sure, because there's almost an expected bumps

1113
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Speaker 6: in the road when you come back from something like this,

1114
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Speaker 6: and when you.

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Speaker 1: Come back, by the way, from multiple injuries.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to underline the fact or I want

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Speaker 6: to underline the fact that it's not just recovering from

1118
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Speaker 6: right growing one isolated No before that it was left

1119
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Speaker 6: growing and probably that maybe that quad strain's fine by now,

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Speaker 6: But this is not a simplistic tweak ankle tweak that

1121
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 6: we so ordinarily talk about in basketball, and so it

1122
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Speaker 6: could get complicated, it could. You know, She's gonna make

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Speaker 6: sure she comes back on her timeline and does it

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Speaker 6: the right way this time.

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Speaker 1: Scott, what's new at Fieldhouse Files.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, we're looking forward to the full NBA schedule

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Speaker 6: release coming up on Thursday, and then I'll be at

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Speaker 6: the Fever game tonight and have full reaction from there,

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Speaker 6: and you.

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Speaker 1: Can hear the Fever game right here on this radio station.

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Speaker 1: Eddie will have pre and post game coverage as well.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it, Scott, great, Thanks Jake Scott Agnes joining us

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Speaker 1: from Fieldhouse Files