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Speaker 1: We headed the Payloff Slickers hotline. Right now, he is

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Speaker 1: the head coach of the Pacers. He is Rick Carlisle coach.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, How are we doing just fine?

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Speaker 1: January complete? I would say, I mean, certainly your best

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Speaker 1: your team, but in particular, what did you like about

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Speaker 1: January that saw the results be easily the best month

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Speaker 2: Well, probably starts with better health. That's certainly is been

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Speaker 2: a big part of it. And then yeah, as we've

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Speaker 2: gone along here, we've worked, our guys have continued to work.

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Speaker 2: You know, we had to practice time. We had a

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Speaker 2: difficult trip, you know, the one with the Oklahoma City game,

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Speaker 2: but we were able to win an Oklahoma City which

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Speaker 2: was which was pretty cool, and got a couple of

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Speaker 2: wins at home earlier in the week, and so you know,

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Speaker 2: there's been some reasonable momentum and some pretty good things happening,

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Speaker 2: and our younger guys continue to work and get better. Rick.

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Speaker 3: I know this was a few days ago, but Pascal

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Speaker 3: Siakam being named an All Star, I believe for the

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Speaker 3: second time with the Pacers, fourth time. Overall, you were

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Speaker 3: very adamant about him all season, and now that that

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Speaker 3: has been solidified, how do you think Pascal earned that

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Speaker 3: honor despite the team record being what it is.

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Speaker 2: Well, we have thirteen wins and by my count, I

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Speaker 2: think he has five game winning shots out of thirteen.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's not half, but it's approaching half the games.

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Speaker 2: And you know, when the rest of the league looks

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Speaker 2: at him and his body of work and what he

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Speaker 2: has stood for as a player, with the level of

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Speaker 2: integrity that he approaches his craft, how he leads, et cetera,

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Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera, you know, then you get into

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Speaker 2: everything he does on the floor and the skill and

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Speaker 2: all that. It's pretty clear that you know, even though

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Speaker 2: it's been a very down year for us from a

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Speaker 2: wins perspective, that he still has has shown very brightly

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Speaker 2: in this league. And I believe, you know, if the

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Speaker 2: way they announced the names was an indication he had

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Speaker 2: the fourth most votes in the East from the coaches,

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Speaker 2: which is h which is very very strong.

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Speaker 1: One more on the Pascal front. Coach obviously, you guys

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Speaker 1: make that trade in season a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 1: and you know, certainly in Toronto he's a key piece

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Speaker 1: this you know, high draft pick and you know, uber

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Speaker 1: prominent college player coming out. What is something that maybe

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Speaker 1: you've learned about Pascal being with him every day for

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Speaker 1: the last couple of years that you did not know

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Speaker 1: when you guys acquired him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an interesting question. Yeah, he was. He was

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Speaker 2: the second or third guy in Toronto, maybe even the

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Speaker 2: up the ladder with that group. You know, they had

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Speaker 2: they had Kawhi Leonard, they had Lowry and they you know,

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Speaker 2: they had some other good players too. But you know,

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Speaker 2: he's just a guy that his personality, he just you know,

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Speaker 2: he bides his time, he continues to work at you

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Speaker 2: we had pieces in place that greatly enhanced his game.

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Speaker 2: You know, I thought ty Reeves was a great shit

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Speaker 2: big like Turner was was was an important element as well.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that they had that in Toronto. And

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Speaker 2: then yeah, I just I just thought the way our

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Speaker 2: You know. So he's continued to get better. You know,

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Speaker 2: years of college at least that's my recollection at New

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Speaker 2: in a game that that just continues to evolve. Rick.

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Speaker 3: Looking at last night, obviously you all sat a lot

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Speaker 3: So how will you evaluate his overall development here this

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Speaker 2: He is and he's tough. He's from a. He's from

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Speaker 2: And all that stuff has helped him. If you look

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Speaker 1: The voice of Ritt Carlisle. Again, Pacers just wrapped up

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Speaker 1: a back to back. They will be in Milwaukee coming

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Speaker 1: of that coach. There was a moment the other night

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Speaker 2: Well, I you know the the game stats are updated

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Speaker 1: I know. Kevin Pritchard has mentioned when you guys get

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Speaker 1: to this time of the year, if there are players

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Speaker 1: in trade talks, you like to alert players of that

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Speaker 3: Last one from me? Rick? When you have a game

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Speaker 3: like yesterday, when you're resting a number of guys, what

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Speaker 3: what types of things are you evaluating? We don't have

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Speaker 2: Well last night and we had nine guys, so you know,

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Speaker 2: On the other hand, they come to the realization, you

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Speaker 1: Appreciate Rick Carlisle's time here on this Wednesday morning. Just

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Speaker 1: a couple things left, if you don't mind, Coach. I

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Speaker 2: Well, I do think it has grown, and I remember

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Speaker 1: It's funny I watched obviously a miracle, Like you said,

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Speaker 2: another huge announcement that's going to happen tomorrow the fifth.

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Speaker 2: which will announce tomorrow after practice. So Kevin expects you

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Speaker 2: to be there, brother.

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Speaker 1: There you go. We'll keep an eye out for that,

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Speaker 1: certainly in great efforts in what you're doing there with

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Speaker 1: those partners in Drive and Dish Coach. As always, we

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Speaker 1: appreciate the time.

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Speaker 2: All right, guys, take care