1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Casey question, what's that prom that maybe there may be 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: some clear cut answer for this. If you haven't actually 3 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: really accomplished anything, should you get a major reward. 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 2: A major award? It's Fred Gilly. 5 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 3: You're talking about the Nobel Peace Prize nomination, right, Donald Trump? Right? 6 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 4: Okay, this just to play out with me with this term, right. 7 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was saying he didn't have some fine efforts 8 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: in the first term, but that was a long time ago. 9 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: You'd think if he was gonna be nominated or win 10 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: for that, that they would have done that. Now, look, 11 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: these awards are all a joke anyway. It's whose line 12 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: is it anyway? Where the game's made up and the 13 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: rules don't matter. Obama won one of these, and of 14 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: course he just bombed a bunch of people into oblivion. 15 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 4: But just just for. 16 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: The premise of this exercise, let's just pretend everything's on 17 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: the up and up, shall we. Okay, all right, so 18 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: Trump has been president for eight months. He did bomb 19 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: ran into oblivion. Which I'm not saying that's bad. I'm 20 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: not just saying that's wrong something. I'm just I'm just 21 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: just reiterating facts as we know them. That doesn't sound 22 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: like uber peaceful right the Palestinians and Israelis. While there 23 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: was a peace deal negotiated, it does not appear really 24 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: people are adhering to the tenets of the deal. 25 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 4: I mean, I just heard on the. 26 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: News well every day pretty much about how they're still 27 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: throwing various high powered weaponry at each other. And last 28 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: I checked Russia and the Ukraine still involved in a 29 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: pretty serious international conflict where people are dying. Thus the 30 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: premise of having the people come to the White House 31 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: and Trump going to Alaska at all? Right, Okay, so 32 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: if you haven't really accomplished peace, I mean, you have 33 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: talked about peace, you have advocated for peace, right, but 34 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: you have a con and you did do the bombing, 35 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: which again not not opposed to that, not saying that 36 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: was wrong. 37 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 4: Are you? Are you? 38 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 1: Should you win the major award four piece? Have you 39 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: really haven't accomplished any peace, so. 40 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: Even trying to get peace isn't worthy in your mind? 41 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 4: Well, I don't know. 42 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: I mean, when they gave it to Obama, it's like 43 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: the Sagamore of the Waalbash. Once upon a time, a 44 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: great meaningful award that was given to the best amongst 45 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: us that served our state. Now they just give it 46 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: to donors and cronies and political people, right, it doesn't 47 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: mean anything anymore. I feel the same way about the 48 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 1: Nobel Peace Prize. Probably once upon a time, really prestigious 49 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: people who advocated for great things. When they gave it 50 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: to Obama, I think the meaning went out the door. 51 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 2: Okay. 52 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 3: So there have been multiple world leaders who have nominated Trump. 53 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 3: The Pakistani government nominated him in June, citing his role 54 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 3: in ending a four day conflict between Indian and Pakistan. 55 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 3: You have the Israeli Prime Minister Yaho, He's sent a 56 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 3: letter in July nominating Trump. In August, the Cambodian Prime 57 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 3: Minister credited Trump for advocating for a ceasefire between Cambodian 58 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 3: and Thai armies. You also had some other world leaders 59 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 3: nominating Trump for his is August eighth Piece summit. And 60 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 3: again you mentioned the August fifteenth summit in Alaska with 61 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 3: Vladimir Putin and also many meetings that he's had with 62 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 3: Zelenski and other European leaders. So you have had some 63 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 3: world leaders who are recognizing him. I think there was 64 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 3: like forty monks who were nominating him, But now we 65 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 3: have somebody here in Indiana who's saying he's deserving real. 66 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: Quick before we get to that, though, the problem is 67 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: he wants it so bad, like we laugh hysterically about 68 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: me and the Sagamore, like it's just a running joke 69 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: on our show. Look, I'm never getting that award. What 70 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: they've deluded it down to. There are many great people 71 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: I know who have them and who got them in 72 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: the olden days when they were still prestigious. Have a 73 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: dear family friend who got one. Those people totally deserved it. 74 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: They have so deluded that thing now it means nothing 75 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: to the people who are getting them today. We joke 76 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: about me and the School Hall of Fame, right, also, 77 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: never getting into that, like we joke about these things 78 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: because it's funny. Trump wants this award, like when you're 79 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: I mean, he basically has been out there begging for 80 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: the award, and when you're telling people you and it's meaningless. 81 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 4: Look at the people they've given it to. Why do 82 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 4: you want this award so bad? 83 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: Like it's in his mind it's still the nineteen eighties 84 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: and it's still this uber prestigious thing where they actually 85 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: give it to people who were advocating for peace. 86 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 4: They don't do that anymore. It's just it's a political award. 87 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: Now is it a plaque or is it a I 88 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: don't know. 89 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 4: It's a great question. How does it come? 90 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 3: Because if it's a plaque sort of thing, you know, 91 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 3: he would hang it in the oval office and anytime 92 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 3: anybody comes to visit he would point it out. 93 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 2: Did you know, well exactly. 94 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: It sort of takes like, if you want the thing, 95 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 1: it almost feels like everything you're doing is for the thing, 96 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: rather than I'm just doing it because it's the right 97 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: thing to do. Oh and how nice of society to 98 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: bestow this honor upon me because I went out of 99 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: my way to do the right thing. It sort of 100 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: feels like he wants the award so bad that everything 101 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: he does is about whether or not he can get 102 00:04:58,960 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: the award. 103 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 2: Okay, I've got it. Here it is. 104 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 3: It's a gold medal, maybe eighteen carrot recycled gold ways 105 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 3: one hundred and seventy five grams. 106 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: There's also an. 107 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 3: Official Nobel diploma, which is a handwritten Each diploma is unique. 108 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 3: There's also a cash award with it. 109 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 4: A cash award, like does it say what the number is? 110 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 2: The amount varies yet, now you've got my attention. It's 111 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: been around. 112 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 4: It carries the year by ear. Is it like very. 113 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: Between one and nine million dollars or does it very 114 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: between line? 115 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it varies between nine hundred thousand dollars to one 116 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 3: million dollars. 117 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 4: Oh so, I mean it's so it's pretty close, right. 118 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: I mean you might feel a little slighted if you 119 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: were one at the year that you got nine hundred k. 120 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: But if someone handed you nine hundred k, you wouldn't 121 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: be like, well you dirty, rotten, no good, you know what, 122 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: although you would rather win it the year you get 123 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: the million dollars. 124 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, pick me on the good year. 125 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 4: Why does it change? Does it say? 126 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: Whatever you're looking at now, that would be fascinated to know, Hey, 127 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: we came up a little short that we passed around 128 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: the hat it. 129 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 3: Were you were almost worthy one million dollar Nobel price 130 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: almost all right? 131 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 4: So what's going on here with somebody here is involved 132 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 4: in this? Yes? 133 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 3: Oh boy, Marlon Stutsman, oh no, Indiana's third congressional district representative. 134 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 3: He's advocating for president to win to receive the Peace Prize. 135 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: You know, Marlin's a really sad story because, as many 136 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: people know, I worked for Marlin. 137 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 4: I worked for him. 138 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: I got to know him and work for him when 139 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: he ran for US Senate against Todd Young in twenty sixteen. 140 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: And I really admired Marlon Stutsman because in the Congress 141 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: he was a he was a Massy before Massy was 142 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: cool type of guy. He was one of those guys. 143 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: He voted all the time against things that the party wanted. 144 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: He was very quiet. He was not boisterous or robust 145 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: in his personality. But I got to know him, and 146 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: he was very quietly a guy who did hard things 147 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: and went about his business. 148 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 4: And I never I mean, he should have. 149 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: He elevated himself up the latter he was in the 150 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: General Assembly and then became a congressman and blah blah blah. 151 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: But I never saw him as some guy who really 152 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: wanted to be a politician. But clearly he has shown 153 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: because what happened to Marlon Stutsman was he ran against 154 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: Todd Young because Marlin had been such an independent voice 155 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: in the House. Mitch mcconne was like, huh, ain't dealing 156 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: with this guy, and they put a gajillion dollars behind 157 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: Todd Young to win that primary. And one of the 158 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: things I had kind of admired about Marlin was he 159 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: had just sort of said, well, you know, I lost 160 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: doing the right thing. You know, I'll go be a 161 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: farmer again. He has shown himself on multiple occasions this 162 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: time though, as a guy who he must have really 163 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: wanted it, because he has turned into a proud card 164 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: carring member of butt Sniffers r US. 165 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 4: I mean he is. 166 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: He voted for all he The old Marlin would have 167 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: never voted for that spending bill that got approve, the 168 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: big bullcrab bill, and not only did he vote for it, 169 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: he was a leading advocate for it. The old Marlin 170 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: would have never been down with the rigging of the 171 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: of the congressional districts. He would have pointed out how 172 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: unfair they were. He certainly wouldn't have gone along with 173 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: this sort of thing. And that's so sad to see. 174 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: I mean, they get everybody. Casey, it's Hotel California. You 175 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: can check out any time you like, but you can 176 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: never real they get everybody. They get everybody, and they've 177 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: even gotten Marlin. And it's like, man, that is so 178 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: sad to see somebody who I once really admired, just totally. 179 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 4: He's it's like he's. 180 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: Back, and he's like, well, I'm not gonna let I'm 181 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: not gonna let this happen again where the party gets 182 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: me if I want to run for higher office. I mean, 183 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: that's the only logical thing is that he so covets 184 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: the office, whether it's the current seat, which by the way, 185 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: he represents the Fort Wayne area northeast corner of the state, 186 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 1: that he so needs that or wants that, and or 187 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: political higher aspirations if he runs again. That's just really disheartening. 188 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 3: So two days ago him along with a representative from Tennessee, 189 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 3: they sent a letter to the Norwegian Nobel Committee nominating 190 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 3: Trump for the award. 191 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 4: You send that by FedEx or what do you? What 192 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 4: do you do? Do you? 193 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: How do you get that to them? Hey, get on 194 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: a boat, vote buddy, send that over there. 195 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 196 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 3: They wrote that Trump's leadership helped de escalate global conflicts 197 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 3: in foster peaceful resolutions. 198 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, but why are you wasting your time doing this? 199 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: Like you're a congressman. There's a good jillion things going 200 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: on in our country and your focus is on getting 201 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: some guy a meaningless Award that he's obsessed with. I 202 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: mean again, it's another example. The reason this matters, right 203 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: is it's another example of how these guys in the 204 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: Congress who are supposed to be regardless of what party 205 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: and power, and obviously there's there's always a certain synergy. 206 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: Parties have blueprints, they have plans, but the ultimate job 207 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: of why we send people to Congress is not to 208 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: be a teammate or an opposition to the president. It's 209 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 1: to be a check and balance. If there's areas you agree, great, 210 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: you vote together. If there's areas you don't agree, you 211 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: push back. And all we see now in terms of 212 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: our Congress is just, hey, if it's Democrat, it's blanket opposition, 213 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: and if you're a Republican, it's blatant Aaron boy, uh, 214 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: you know behavior, And like there's no there's no semblance 215 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: of being able to find what's good and what's bad. 216 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: We've just so dug ourselves into the teams on both sides, 217 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 1: and that's the way we govern now. 218 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 3: I think there's an interesting study on study fines right 219 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 3: now and it kind of ties into this, and the 220 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 3: headline is do you care about your legacy? 221 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: Because clearly Donald Trump, we're caring, was like, do. 222 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 4: You have the information on that? I did. 223 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: Let's take a pause. I want I want to I 224 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: want to talk about that when we come back. Can 225 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: we talk about that? 226 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 4: Share? Okay, very good. 227 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 2: It's Kennelly Casey on ninety three WYBC. 228 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 3: On a dog. The way. 229 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 2: You start quoting Hotel California, the bells start going off 230 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 2: with Kevin. 231 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 4: That's very good. Yes, Kennel Casey showing Rob Casey's here. 232 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: Okay, So last segment, we were talking about uh and 233 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: we talked about this a lot on the show in 234 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: various people, but we were particular in particular or pointing 235 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: out Martlin Stutsman, who's congressman from northeast Indiana, and how 236 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 1: disappointing Marlin's second run through the Congress thus far has 237 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: been compared to the very independent, very reliably conservative fiscal 238 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 1: sanity voice that he had the first time, and said, 239 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: the only logical explanation is that the guy was so 240 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 1: disheartened by losing a Senate election because Mitch McConnell and 241 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: the establishment put a gajillion dollars behind his opponent, Todd 242 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: Young at the time, and that ended his political career. 243 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: That he said, I'm not going to let that happen again. 244 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 1: And he has come back to the Congress the second 245 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: time and has been the complete opposite of what he 246 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: was the first time, and so sure, sure, sure he is. 247 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: And that's an example of somebody who I don't know 248 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 1: whether it's I just misread him the whole time. Don't 249 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: think he did get a voting record. 250 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 3: I was. 251 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: I was impressed with the guy because of his voting record, 252 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: not because of his dynamic personality. I mean, marlin, you 253 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 1: barely get five words out of the guy when you, 254 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: you know, see him in person, but clearly the need 255 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: to be in that position of power and the need 256 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: to secure that power, and the need to potentially elevate 257 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 1: in the future. He learned from what happened the last time, 258 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: and that is more important than being that independent voice 259 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 1: doing what's right by the constituents like he did last time. 260 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: And you were saying, well, that's interesting because there's a 261 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: poll a poll out now that people that was sort 262 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: of has to do with that exact thing. 263 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 3: With your legacy, legacy? Do you care about your legacy? 264 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 3: That's how it started. And the study goes on to 265 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 3: say the eighty percent of America. 266 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 4: Who did the study? 267 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 2: Does it say it's on study? 268 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 4: Fine, okay, study finds very good? All right? 269 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so they say the eighty percent of Americans 270 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 3: care more about the impression. 271 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 2: They leave on loved ones. 272 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 3: Yeap, But fifty four percent of people want to leave 273 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 3: a broader legacy. More than half of people want to 274 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 3: leave some sort of legacy. 275 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. This is interesting because I had this conversation 276 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: the other day. I cannot remember who it was with, 277 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: but they were pointing out how in your life, how 278 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: many people can name anybody further back than say two generations? Mmm, 279 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: like know anything about these people? Like all these people 280 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: exist in the cemetery, and how many people? I mean, look, 281 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: if you're George Washington, right, that's one thing, But the 282 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: rank and file people in the cemetery. Can you how 283 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: far back in your family tree can you go and 284 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: actually like reveal any sort of pertinent information about that person? 285 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 3: I mean, I could go to my grandparents case that's two. 286 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 3: I don't know their names, but like my mom's grandparents, 287 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 3: I know they lived, I know what street they lived. 288 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 4: But you don't know their name. Right, And I'm not 289 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 4: blaming you. 290 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying that's where most people are, right, that that 291 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: is a gen consensus. Like, if you think about it, 292 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: if you go into someone's house, how rare it is 293 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: that you see anything past their grandparents in terms of 294 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 1: photos or family history or anything like, Like I get 295 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: I'm a freak, right, Like because I'm I could be 296 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: sentimental about a Bowel. 297 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 4: Movement and I'm a you know. 298 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: I am obsessed with nostalgia, and like I can go 299 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: four generations back. Now, my old man he can do 300 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: like seven, right, but you like toss that out like 301 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: I can. I can tell you things about my great 302 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: great grandfather, like I can go that far back. But 303 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: even that, okay, that's four generations right. So you think 304 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: about how basically, for the overwhelming majority of people not 305 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: named Michael Jordan or George Washington or the tippy tippy 306 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: top of society, you basically get removed from the lexicon 307 00:14:55,400 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: yep after two generations. Yeah, And so really, unless you're 308 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: going to do something which how few people actually do 309 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: something to change society or altered society or appeal to 310 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: millions of people in some shape form or passion, you 311 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: really are you really are just living to impact the 312 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: people that are immediately around you, and it's sort of 313 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: a sombering thing, but you just gotta accept, Hey, three 314 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: generations are now. Ain't nobody gonna remember I'm just taking 315 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: up dirt in the cemetery. 316 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 317 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 3: Well, this study says that aging obviously leads to greater 318 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 3: appreciation for smaller moments, and it leads people into intentional living. 319 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 3: And isn't that the point though, of the Nobel Peace Prize, 320 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 3: that you have left an integral mark on the world, 321 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 3: Like if you're ending major conflicts globally, that means something. 322 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: But Trump Trump wants it because everything with Trump is like, 323 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: if you Trump's fascinating because you look at how he governed, 324 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: how he whatever, it's all it's all based on like 325 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: how things were viewed in the nineteen eighties or nineties, right, 326 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: and so in Trump's. 327 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 4: World, right, in Trump's world. 328 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: This is still some massive award that will bring some 329 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: sort of credibility to me now, right, it will bring 330 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: some sort of because in the world in which I 331 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: lived or I'm most familiar with, this was a really 332 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: big deal. This is about Trump. I mean, look, like 333 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: I said, I think Trump has been fine on foreign policy. 334 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: I think it's been one of his strengths. But he 335 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: doesn't want it because of that. He wants it because 336 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: he craves recognition. He craves acceptance, He craves people saying 337 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: nice things about him. 338 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 4: This is one of the things. 339 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: This is why I've kept this journal for my daughter. 340 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: I think most people know this, but every day since 341 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: we found out that my daughter was going to be 342 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: a girl, and then we had a name chosen, I've 343 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: kept a daily journal of her life from the womb 344 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: to present day. I just wrote in it last night, right, 345 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: And I've got just not to be a Mitt Romney 346 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: binders full of women here, but I have binders full 347 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 1: of writings, and so much of this writing is not 348 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: just about her life, but the things that were going 349 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: on in the world, yeah, and the way I viewed things, 350 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: and the things that I hope she remembers, because I 351 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: have accepted the fact that three generations from now, most people, 352 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: ninety nine percent of they ain't gonna know who I was. 353 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 4: But if she can carry on those thoughts, those ideals. 354 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: That drive for a better world to make her a 355 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: better person, she can give it to the next person 356 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: and she'll take that. 357 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 4: And if we can keep that. 358 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: Going for generations that will be a great gift to 359 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: leave behind. 360 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 3: Fifty eight percent of Americans have received a family heirloom 361 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 3: and they typically are photo albums, handmade quilts, or watches. 362 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 3: And nearly sixty percent of people plan on leaving something 363 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 3: for their love and they range from money, houses, jewelry 364 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 3: to even a. 365 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 2: Sword collection that's random that. 366 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 5: They have on that. 367 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 3: But my question for you, Rob, before we get into 368 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 3: the news really quick, is my name in the journal anywhere? 369 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 4: Yeah? 370 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 2: Of course I made the journal. 371 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 4: Now you didn't ask whether it was in for good 372 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 4: things or about things? 373 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 2: Ah to be determined, you. 374 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 4: Know what I know. 375 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: And we'll just run just a little long here. But 376 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: one of the reasons I did this is when I 377 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: was when I was small, my mother kept a journal. 378 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: But it wasn't like a daily journal. It was like 379 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: the milestone journals, right, Like she would write about things 380 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 1: that happened. And I read this before my daughter was born, 381 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: and I thought, I wonder what happened in between? Yeah, 382 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: like I wonder what a daily And I'm not saying 383 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 1: like I write a novel every day. Sometimes it's just 384 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 1: three or four sentences, But think about this, literally every 385 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: day of her life. She will be able and at 386 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 1: some point I will hand this over to it and 387 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: say it's your turn to start keeping your own thoughts 388 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: in your own life. But whatever to that moment is, 389 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: she will be able to track literally every single day. 390 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 2: You should are you writing prices of things. 391 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 5: I should do? 392 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 4: Shouldn't I? 393 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,479 Speaker 3: Yeah? You should just randomly throw and by the way, 394 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 3: price of gas, gallon of milk? 395 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 1: You know who I need to include, by the way, 396 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 1: stick around. Coming up next, Jacob Stewart from The Indie 397 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:13,719 Speaker 1: Star is going to be with us. He has a 398 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: fabulous new piece out about redistricting, and if the Republicans 399 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: are serious about convincing the public that this will benefit 400 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: them for anything other than politics, what they need to do. 401 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: But you know who I should really enter into our 402 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: journal is John Herrick, because nobody does the news better 403 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: than John Harrock body, and. 404 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 4: I want my daughter to know what a great news 405 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 4: man John Herrick was. 406 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 2: He's on the way from ninety three WIBC. 407 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 4: You went away, Casey. 408 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've heard the news, but some 409 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: people are fired up about this idea of redistricting, not. 410 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 2: Just here but also in Texas and California. 411 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: Well, it's so fascinating, and we've talked about it, We've 412 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: gone into great detail numerous times about this. It's just 413 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 1: we're just admitting out loud that voting is just completely rigged, 414 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: like there's no point in any of it. 415 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 2: Huh uh huh. If it mattered, they wouldn't let you. 416 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 4: Do it right. They'll they'll will make it whatever we 417 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 4: want it to be. 418 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: And then you just show up has it and pretend 419 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 1: like you actually your participation actually mattered. 420 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 2: It's like a participation trophy. 421 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: Absolutely, when you've got the sitting Secretary of State in 422 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: Indiana basically just saying, our job in voting is to 423 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: carry Donald Trump's agenda, not not have free and fair elections, 424 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: not made the beast and best man or woman win, 425 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: not hey, you know, have better ideas. It's our job 426 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: is just to facilitate Trump's agenda, you know. 427 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 3: And then think about this is okay, We're let's have 428 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 3: the special session, let's readistrict. 429 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 2: What's not to stop them from doing it again in 430 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 2: a year. 431 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna talk with Nicki Kelly coming up at 432 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 1: ten fifteen. We're going to get into that about how 433 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: this little rigging of Marion County if indeed they go 434 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: down that route. 435 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe just a temporary thing, so we'll get into 436 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 4: that lane. Okay. I saw this the other day. 437 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: There was a very interesting article in the Indies or 438 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 1: coll opinion piece by Jacob Stuart and it was about 439 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: the redistricting process and if the Republicans really want to 440 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: change the maps, especially in the first congressional district, which 441 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: is that the region as they called the Chicagoland area, 442 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: there's a way they could prove to the public it 443 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: is necessary, and he says they should have a special census. 444 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 4: Jacob Stewart from The Indie Star joined us now, Jacob, Hello, yeah, 445 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 4: thanks for having me on. Okay, So you. 446 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,360 Speaker 1: Worked in the Senate right at one point, the Indiana Senate, correct, 447 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 1: So you know how this process, well how the Senate 448 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: itself works. Do you get a feeling before we get 449 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: into your column, do you get a feeling that they 450 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: are going to go forward with the redistricting? 451 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 5: You know these people, I have the feeling that they 452 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 5: will very reluctantly, though I don't think there's much of 453 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,239 Speaker 5: a passion for it, but there's a recognition that if 454 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 5: they don't then well, they might get primaried. Some of 455 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 5: these national figures will try to weigh into Indiana politics 456 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 5: and make sure they don't get reelected. 457 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: So is their theory that they actually think Charlie Kirk 458 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: is going to put some sort of like boots on 459 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: the ground operation against them. 460 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 4: That just seems absurd to me. Yeah, that seems to 461 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 4: be it. 462 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 5: You know, whether or not that ends up panning out, 463 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 5: we'll see, but who knows. 464 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 3: So what you're saying is the guy who looks like 465 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 3: a thumb has more control than me and my vote. 466 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's very a stance to reason. 467 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 4: Yes, Casey, I think that's, in a nice way, exactly 468 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 4: what you're saying. 469 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: Ok, all right, So you had this interesting piece about, hey, 470 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: the first district is the one they think everybody the 471 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: Republicans are super targeting. Maybe they can figure out a 472 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: way to make the Marion County seventh the congressional district 473 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: Republican two, But the first is the one ever seems 474 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: to be focused on. And you had an interesting idea. 475 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: You said, look, if there's a need for this, show 476 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: us and you can do it through a special sensus, 477 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: tell us about the column R. 478 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,959 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I actually grew up in northwest Indiana. You know, 479 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 5: there's a lot of housing development, there's a lot of 480 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 5: growth there, a lot of people moving from Chicago. The 481 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 5: commute there's still so I think it's there's a legitimate 482 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 5: opinion out there that the population is growing, so maybe 483 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 5: they should be reconsidered. Their apportionment in the Congress should 484 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 5: be reconsidered. So my column essentially addresses that point and says, 485 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 5: if you want to redistrict the state, you know, redistricting 486 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 5: is always a partisan games, always drawn to advantage the 487 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 5: majority party. But if you want to do it now, 488 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 5: you know, mid cycle redistricting is pretty rare, but it 489 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 5: has happened before. You need to at least prove there 490 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 5: is some reason for it, and some state legislators have 491 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 5: come out with saying that exact thing. If you want 492 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 5: to redistrict, we should figure out how the population has 493 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 5: changed since twenty twenty. 494 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: So I have to do that as a part of 495 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: the map. Right, You've got to have equal populations in 496 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: these in redistricts. 497 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, there's federal requirement that they need to be 498 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 5: roughly equal in population. So it seems like a pretty 499 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 5: easy thing to say that you need to at least 500 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 5: see how many people are in the district you're changing. 501 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 3: Well, that could also backfire on them, couldn't it If 502 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 3: they do, you know, the census, and there's less. 503 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 5: It could If there's more people in the more liberal 504 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 5: leaning parts of the Northwest Indiana district, then maybe the 505 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 5: district would have to be smaller and centered more around 506 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 5: those more liberal leaning and more urban areas. 507 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 4: So yeah, it could definitely backfire. 508 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: Jacob Sewart from The Indie Star is our guest. He 509 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: has a new column out talking about redistricting and saying 510 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,719 Speaker 1: a great way that the Republicans could appease a lot 511 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: of people have concerns that this is just simply partisan politics, 512 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: is to prove the need for redistricting, especially in the 513 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: first congressional district, and have a special census. How would 514 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: this work? Because you said, look, Trump clearly wants this. 515 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: There's probably a way the state could do this without 516 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: it being put on the state's tab to have a 517 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: special census. 518 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean more than likely. 519 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 5: So the last special sense and since we've seen is Westfield. 520 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 4: We talked about that that was like two million dollars Field. 521 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 5: Very expensive, But you know, a special session would also 522 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 5: cost at least half a million, if not more, depending 523 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 5: on how long it you. 524 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: So let's talk about that, because Braun came out the 525 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: other day and tried to go, oh, it'll be like 526 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. There's no way they're 527 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: doing a special session for one hundred fifty thousand. 528 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 5: Dollars and maybe a couple legislators paychecks would be one 529 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 5: hundred and fifty. 530 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: Yerus, Well, you and you're the perfect guy asked this 531 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: question because you worked there. You know how this offertion 532 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: he's full of it when it's saying one hundred fifty dollars. 533 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:32,719 Speaker 4: It's a part time legislature. 534 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 5: So what we're paying them now is just for the 535 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 5: first Every other year it's January through March, and then 536 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:43,479 Speaker 5: every budget session it's January through around May. So if 537 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 5: we have a special session, that's all the salaries of 538 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 5: these legislatures are legislators that we need to pay per 539 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 5: DM so it's per day. 540 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're paying. 541 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: Them mileage all this other stuff. Yeah yeah, yeah, So Braun, 542 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: this will shock you. Casey Braun lied what like I know, 543 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 1: give it all the positive encounters we had with Braun 544 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: that it was very shocking. But but like tell us 545 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: theoretically how a special census might work and how Indiana 546 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: might be able to say, Hey, you want it, President, 547 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: you do it. 548 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 5: So how it's working in Westfield, from my understanding, is 549 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 5: that people in the area are getting mailers with a 550 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 5: special code on it that they can then go online 551 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 5: to fill out you know, who's in their household and everything. 552 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 5: So it'd probably work about the same. You know, if 553 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 5: you want to if you want to redistrict and you're 554 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 5: going to focus on northwest Indiana, Lake Porter and part 555 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 5: of Laporte Counties are in that district, So sending it 556 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 5: mailers to everyone in those districts and then you know, 557 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 5: getting accounted their household and everything. That's about how the 558 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 5: special census would work, and it would definitely cost a 559 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 5: lot of money. 560 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,239 Speaker 3: So Okay, Now, with everything that's been going on with 561 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:51,239 Speaker 3: ice and some people's fears, whether warranted or not, do 562 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 3: you think people would comply or participate? 563 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 5: You know, it's I think so it's going to be 564 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 5: sent to every household. I you know, there's always going 565 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 5: to be that fear, but I think most people will 566 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 5: probably participate, although you know, to your Point. Lake County 567 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 5: is one of the more immigrant heavy counties in our state, 568 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 5: so that could very well be a concern that the people. 569 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: Have Jacobs Stewart from the Indie start is our guests 570 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: get a new calum out about redistricting. Talking about the 571 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: idea of a special census might be able to help 572 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: the Republicans accomplish their goals, make the public feel better 573 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: about what they're trying to do here. I want to 574 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: come back this because here's what I don't understand. And 575 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: you know these guys because you worked in the Indiana 576 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 1: General Assembly. Todd Houston and Rod Bray ruled that place 577 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 1: with an iron fist, right as Bosma and David Long 578 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: did before. Ninety percent of these guys and girls who 579 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 1: are in there are just rank and file. Whatever the 580 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: boss tells me to do, I'm going to do. They 581 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: don't want this. It's pretty obvious, right, Like you know 582 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: these dudes, you got to read the tea leaves. What 583 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: are they worried about? Why are these lawmakers worried then? 584 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,479 Speaker 1: Because let's face it, the primary challenge often comes from 585 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 1: like if you're a kurtin Isley or a John Jacob, 586 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: you're a rebel Rouser, we being the establishment, find some 587 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: passable person and then give them a gajillion dollars. I 588 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: would think they would be able if they really didn't 589 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: want this, to go to these guys and go, don't listen 590 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: to Charlie Kirk. He's not gonna do anything. He's gonna 591 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: be on to the next state. He's not gonna remember 592 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: your name or where you're from. If they really are 593 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: against this, don't they have the political will to tell 594 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 1: these guys we ain't doing this. 595 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 4: They certainly do. 596 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 5: I do think though, there is a sizeable part of 597 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 5: their base in Indiana who will try to hold them 598 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 5: accountable if they don't do everything they can to quote 599 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 5: unquote fight fire with fire. I think that's pretty ironic though, 600 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 5: because I mean, whatever happened to holding your party accountable? 601 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 5: Last time I checked. The last election, both the Republican 602 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 5: and Democratic parties completely altered their platforms, you know, the 603 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 5: Republican's water down language on abortion, gun rights, that sort 604 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 5: of thing, and the Democrats, I think they remove language 605 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 5: around the death penalty. So it's like, on the one 606 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 5: breath these people want them to fight fire with fire, 607 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 5: on the next they will probably complain that they don't 608 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 5: really care what they think, because you know these legislators. 609 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 5: Legislators will be more in a safe Republican district. So 610 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 5: I think it's ironic in that sense. 611 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: Are you implying people just totally make it up as 612 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: they go along? Yeah, that what you're applying, all right? 613 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: Find him over INDI Star indiestar dot com is the 614 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: website we always enjoy reading your your stuff without your 615 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: thing on the post office last week was fascinting about 616 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: getting rid of the post office. Did a big second 617 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,479 Speaker 1: on that, Jacob Stewart, thank you, thank you. 618 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 2: It's Kendallly Casey on ninety three WIBC. 619 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: You're so excited that the wrestling is coming to mean 620 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: a wressell Palosa. 621 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 3: We'll give you the whole seed, you'll only need the edge. 622 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 2: Okay, you think it's a palloza. 623 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 3: Now what would we do had Lallapalooza not been successful? 624 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: Well, they have a wrestle Mania, so now they can't. 625 00:29:55,280 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: That's already taken. So I guess the WWE, which is 626 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: now owned by what is it tk TKO or whatever 627 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: that they merged with UFC so they're owned by some 628 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: mega corporation, is doing a special in that Saturday, September 629 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: the twentieth, here in here in Indianapolis had Gainbridge Field House. 630 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: Now they call this a pl E Premium Live event 631 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: and this will be one of the first new PLS 632 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: that is available on this delio they got with ESPSPN. 633 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 4: The WWE. 634 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: Look, this is hilarious because I had this conversation with 635 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: somebody earlier today and they were just a massive wrestling fan. 636 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: They get mad every time I say this, and God 637 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: blessed the WWE. They're a profit machine. They're a multi 638 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: billion dollar company. They've merged, like I said, with the Endeavor, 639 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: and they're just I mean, they're there. 640 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 4: They make money out the backside. 641 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: You know, they fart dollar bills, right, But there have 642 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: never been fewer people watching pro wrestling. WWE has has 643 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: an incredible business model model where they have consistently alienated 644 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: the mass the cub of their audience. Yet the fans 645 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,479 Speaker 1: they have are so hardcore that their price points are 646 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: so high that they are making all of this money. 647 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: And this guy always gets real mad when I say this, 648 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: but it is no longer. There is no They laugh 649 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: at the idea that it's real, like they you know, 650 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: the work right. 651 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 4: It used to be Hey, you know, it's a little off, 652 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 4: but you don't know how they're doing. 653 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: Now they just make fun of it and it's sirked 654 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: a sleigh or Disney on ice, but guys in tights 655 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: instead of on the ice. But they'll sell out and 656 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: a bunch of people are going to pay huge money 657 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: for this this event, and God bless those people that 658 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: want to go do that, and good for them. 659 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like the fourth wall came down, but everybody 660 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 3: knows the fourth wall came down. 661 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 4: Well right, They laugh at it. They literally laugh at 662 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 4: this is what I do. 663 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: This is and this is why fewer people than ever 664 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: before watch professional wrestling because they laugh at you. 665 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 4: They're like, hih, isn't this funny? It's all a big joke? 666 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 2: Are you paid to see it? 667 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 4: Exactly. 668 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: They're laughing at you on how ridiculous it is. And 669 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: people just laugh, you know, eat it up, and that's 670 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: great they're doing this. This was a late announcement there. 671 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 4: There. 672 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: They have a rival company, ae W is their WWE's 673 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: big rival, and their big show, which I believe is 674 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: in Canada this year, is the same day, so they're there. 675 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: It's a pay per view in for them. So they're 676 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: trying to compete with because WWE is the Coke or 677 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: the McDonald's or whatever of pro wrestling, and everybody else's, 678 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: you know, the little the also ran, so it'd be 679 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: like McDonald's competing against Culver's or whoever, you know, right, 680 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: So anyway. 681 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 2: Don't you knock a Buttervie? 682 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: Fine, Like people watch this aw stuff, which is every 683 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: bit as ridiculous as WWE, if not more so. 684 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 4: Uh yes, they've ruined the wrestling business. 685 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: They laugh at their fan base, and yet they're a 686 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: multi gajillion dollar company money. 687 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 3: Their chief content officer, Triple h he described it as 688 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 3: a campus event. So they say they're going to be 689 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 3: combining WWE's biggest stars with the top sports media brand. 690 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 2: So they said some of the wrestlers that are going 691 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 2: to be featured, is he going to be? 692 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: Well that's what they said. I don't watch it anymore, Casey, 693 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. I got tired of being laughed at about. 694 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 3: A John Cena, Cody Roads, Seth Rollins, Becky Lynch. 695 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 2: See them punk and Drew MacIntyre, Well you. 696 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: Should go, you and Jim should should should pony? John 697 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: Cena get the front row seats, and I would encourage 698 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: you to have an altercation with the wrestler, get yourself 699 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: involved in the show. 700 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 3: Well, they had the Royal Rumble and that was like 701 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 3: a new attendance record. 702 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 4: They did, they broke through. 703 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 2: This will be another can't miss of that rock. 704 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: What did I just tell you, Casey that there have 705 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: never While there have never been fewer people, the fans 706 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: that remain have never been more passionate, and they look 707 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: gouge is a strong word. They invoke premium pricing for 708 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: all of their stuff, dynamic pricing and uh boy howdy, 709 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: the people will pay it, and good on them because 710 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: that's why they're there. Wall Street don't care whether you 711 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: got one person or fifty million people. They care about 712 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: the dollars that come in, and they bring in a 713 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: lot of dollars. 714 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 3: Speaking of sports, did you see last year Indiana Residence 715 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 3: bet four point six billion dollars on line. 716 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 4: And two point three of that came from Hammer. 717 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 3: So is this because it's the young college age men 718 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 3: who are now doing the sports gambling. 719 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: Because betting makes things fun like it gives you a 720 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: cheering interest. Now you gotta bet responsibly, right if you 721 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: got to be a very guardrails around yourself and all 722 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,320 Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. But like, if there's some event 723 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: that you're looking to kill a few hours and you 724 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,760 Speaker 1: know it's two teams, you don't care about it. Can 725 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: I've always looked at let's say you put five dollars 726 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 1: on something. You got three hours entertainment for five dollars? 727 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 4: What a deal? Where else do you do? Where else 728 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 4: are you doing that? 729 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 2: Not at the WWE? 730 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, Wressel Brice. 731 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 1: Oh, even if you got the ESPN subscription thing to 732 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: watch it, it's gonna cost you a lot more than that. 733 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 1: So I don't want to hear anything from people about 734 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 1: how stupid sports betting is because you can get three 735 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: hours of entertainment for five bocksm Hey. 736 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 2: Can we talk about data centers coming out? 737 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 3: Oh jeez, it's kind of like Casey on ninety three 738 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 3: w ib C