Speaker 1: And where we go here.
Speaker 2: Anything you have a chance against ours? Mister cowboy? Hey mother,
Speaker 2: what do you like to do? Oh?
Speaker 3: I know what?
Speaker 1: Play chess?
Speaker 4: Screw When there's play chess, they.
Speaker 5: Give off that. Jonathan Taylor, Chuck cunning gets way cooking.
Speaker 1: The goal line.
Speaker 6: He's in there.
Speaker 5: What's down and why? Jonathan Taylor ler us.
Speaker 1: Here's haliburn into the front court, mishandled it mcgin city shot.
Speaker 5: He finds it. John, I have never been better to
Speaker 5: be on the air with you here in Indianapolis, a
Speaker 5: place where so many of my dreams have come true.
Speaker 1: The ride with jmvy on ninety three five and one
Speaker 1: oh seven.
Speaker 5: Five the Fan.
Speaker 7: As we reflected on last season, this one phrase just
Speaker 7: kept coming to my mind, and that was find a way.
Speaker 7: And so that was the mantra that we settled on
Speaker 7: kind of for this season. And I know and believe
Speaker 7: on our roster and in our organization we have everything
Speaker 7: we need this year to get where.
Speaker 5: We need to go Carly orsee Gordon a little bit
Speaker 5: earlier today, and that is how we start to show. Listen,
Speaker 5: you're in a position where you have to believe in
Speaker 5: what you have because simply put you have no alternative,
Speaker 5: because if you did, you would not be sitting in
Speaker 5: this situation right now. Guaranteed you would have tried something new,
Speaker 5: you would have moved on. You have no choice. And
Speaker 5: again the dictated terms happened during the NFL trade deadline
Speaker 5: when you brought in Sauce Gardner. I get it. You
Speaker 5: believe in your team and they were playing well, and
Speaker 5: you bring in a corner, but in the process you
Speaker 5: end up shedding a couple of first rounders this past
Speaker 5: year and next year to where you leave yourself no
Speaker 5: alternative but to find out exactly what's going to go
Speaker 5: down coming up this year, you got none. There are
Speaker 5: so many different ways to look at this. And we're
Speaker 5: gonna talk to Zach Kicks for the first time on
Speaker 5: this show a little bit later on. He's the guy
Speaker 5: I've heard before. I think he's been on when Derek
Speaker 5: Schultz has hosted for me. And it's one of those
Speaker 5: situations where I don't know why I haven't had him on,
Speaker 5: because we've obviously been diving into lockdown colts before. I
Speaker 5: don't know why I haven't had him on. But for
Speaker 5: the first time, we're going to have him on today
Speaker 5: at four and I think he and I agree on
Speaker 5: a couple of things, and it does ultimately come down
Speaker 5: to the health of your team at certain positions. That's
Speaker 5: when it comes down too. But it's going to be
Speaker 5: even more magnified this season with the Colts because you
Speaker 5: look around and there are so many questions and honestly,
Speaker 5: so many questions you can ask about positions that are
Speaker 5: vital and you wonder. You love going into a season
Speaker 5: to where you know and you feel good about certain subjects.
Speaker 5: Meaning you're going to get sideswiped by crap, but you're
Speaker 5: able to absorb that crap because you feel certain in
Speaker 5: other areas. Now there is a certainty going in. I'll
Speaker 5: give you a great example of it. If you're looking
Speaker 5: at the Colts, you would think, with all that is
Speaker 5: invested at corner and what you have, that that is
Speaker 5: a certainty. But face it, it is far from a
Speaker 5: certainty because you have to add if they remain healthy,
Speaker 5: and that has been a question mark. We're talking about
Speaker 5: two dudes that are really good at their craft and
Speaker 5: their possession. Make no mistake about it, Sharvarius Ward and
Speaker 5: Sauce Gardner are two of the best at that position.
Speaker 5: But it comes down to are you going to be
Speaker 5: able to buy whether or not they remain healthy, and
Speaker 5: there has been evidence in the past that shows you
Speaker 5: that they've been unable to remain healthy. So when you're
Speaker 5: looking across this roster, where's the camp miss Jonathan Taylor
Speaker 5: probably got to keep that guy happy. I don't know
Speaker 5: if that means I would assume this. With the way
Speaker 5: that Jonathan Taylor has acted so far in camp, it
Speaker 5: seems like that there is going to be some sort
Speaker 5: of deal, some sort of Rais extension, something is going
Speaker 5: to be on the inbound. And it's still incredibly weird
Speaker 5: the way that the Colts and Chris Ballard are handling this.
Speaker 5: You know, I get it, there are things that we
Speaker 5: don't really know too much about. Another example, you look
Speaker 5: at this Colts wide Receiving Corps. You have Alec Pearce,
Speaker 5: who you have given a raise an extension, and you're
Speaker 5: going to put so much on his shoulders and a
Speaker 5: lot of which he has been unable to show so far.
Speaker 5: Big plays absolutely stretching the field, certainly, but how about
Speaker 5: the other stuff that matters too? There's other stuff that
Speaker 5: matters in this. So you look around at the wide
Speaker 5: receiving room. How do you feel about it? You have
Speaker 5: a team around thirty plus million dollars in space to navigate.
Speaker 5: Doesn't make you wonder why you haven't because if listen,
Speaker 5: I understand that they see and believe something that we don't.
Speaker 5: But I'll be damned over the past ten years if
Speaker 5: we haven't been right about a lot of the situations
Speaker 5: where they haven't. So that's the reason why we share dialogue.
Speaker 5: We talk about it, and we feel confident that our
Speaker 5: particular opinion. While I understand, I'm we're we're amateurs. For
Speaker 5: lack of a better description, we are jackasses. We're a
Speaker 5: lot of jackasses. But at the same time, it's not
Speaker 5: like that they have said, well, see, we've told you
Speaker 5: this is going to be great. They haven't told us
Speaker 5: really anything, or at least shown us really anything, you know,
Speaker 5: anything that would persuade us that what we've been talking
Speaker 5: about over the years and certain situations have been inaccurate
Speaker 5: and been rabble rousing, or simply put, have been just
Speaker 5: incredibly wrong. Thus, you know, here we are, and I
Speaker 5: think again, so magnificant reasons why you should look at
Speaker 5: this and go all right. So, if this is going
Speaker 5: to be the final season. You know, Chris Ballo didn't
Speaker 5: want to sign an extension because you got to win
Speaker 5: right now. And you look at the wide receiving room
Speaker 5: or the corps or you know the personnel that are
Speaker 5: out there, go get you somebody. I mean, how the
Speaker 5: Niners went back and got somebody that they used to have.
Speaker 5: They brought him back, which does shallow the pool. Maybe
Speaker 5: they didn't have any interest in Deebo Samuel. Maybe Deebo
Speaker 5: Samuel was done, but it was like seven million dollars
Speaker 5: with what they have to spend, Who the hell cares?
Speaker 5: And so much of it about is this And I
Speaker 5: say this regarding basketball all the time. I'm gonna make
Speaker 5: a comparison here with the Pacers and the Miles Turner
Speaker 5: argument I always had when people say, you know what,
Speaker 5: he's not as good at blocking shots anymore. He wasn't
Speaker 5: as good this season shooting the three. You know what
Speaker 5: he was he was a threat. He was a threat.
Speaker 5: You went, oh, there's Miles Turner out there. So if
Speaker 5: my ass dribbles on the interior here, I may want
Speaker 5: to look out. I need somebody in the rearview here
Speaker 5: because I don't know if he's coming at it. I mean,
Speaker 5: he may be down in blocks per game, but the
Speaker 5: threat of that is still there. He may not be
Speaker 5: shooting forty percent from distance, but the threat is still there.
Speaker 5: You have to go out and get a hand up,
Speaker 5: or at the very least, you have to show a
Speaker 5: little bit of recognition. How much recognition is going to
Speaker 5: be shown with this group, and that is going to
Speaker 5: be a group when you look at the quarterback coming
Speaker 5: off an injury, no matter what you think, you look
Speaker 5: at what you're going to count on and Jonathan Taylor,
Speaker 5: and really that should be the loan given right now.
Speaker 5: You may add in Tyler Warren, but the loan reel.
Speaker 5: All right, we gotta stay up at night because we're
Speaker 5: thinking about this situation is going to be Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 5: And you look around the NFL, and teams have a
Speaker 5: lot more of what you need to think about than
Speaker 5: the Colts. That's how we end up here. So getting
Speaker 5: back to Carly Ursa Gordon, I'm incredibly glad that she
Speaker 5: believes in this because you have to and they honestly
Speaker 5: are forced into having to believe this. Hopefully it's not
Speaker 5: a false belief because we've been driven down this path
Speaker 5: of false belief before and frankly everybody's a little bit
Speaker 5: worn out on it. Hopefully that works all right, Colts
Speaker 5: camp a little bit earlier today, we'll go over that
Speaker 5: Zach Hich for the first time from Lockdown. Colts will
Speaker 5: join us coming up in the four o'clock hour. Adam Rittenberg,
Speaker 5: It was funny. The most noted dialogue from any coach
Speaker 5: so far in the college football media days has been
Speaker 5: that of Kurt Signetti. Well done, and that's exactly how
Speaker 5: it should be. It is difficult, especially if you're somebody
Speaker 5: that wants two things in mind here. If you don't
Speaker 5: want to be coached, it may be different. But if
Speaker 5: you want to be coached and you believe in the
Speaker 5: success and the way that you're led in that capacity,
Speaker 5: you can understand why it would be really easy to
Speaker 5: want to follow Kurt Signetti. He just kind of got that.
Speaker 5: He got the dialogue down. I mean, he got it
Speaker 5: all and obviously the end result is that of winning
Speaker 5: its results in general, but he just got that stuff
Speaker 5: to where you go, a, yeah, you know what, that's
Speaker 5: a dude that I could follow. I truly get it.
Speaker 5: I get it why he's had success why he had
Speaker 5: success even prior to Bloomington. The one thing I would
Speaker 5: love to know is how you operate in terms of
Speaker 5: your selection process, especially in this era, this world of nil,
Speaker 5: when you have money to spend, but you still have
Speaker 5: to be logical in the form and the fashion of
Speaker 5: which you spend it. But that is a niche that
Speaker 5: has been spectacular so far for him, no doubt about that.
Speaker 5: But the Chicago stuff from Kurt Signetti was outsteading, in
Speaker 5: particular the part about you know, I've been on vacation
Speaker 5: long enough taking orders from my wife. Now I want
Speaker 5: to hand out orders. That's beautiful, beautiful, and all that
Speaker 5: comes to those that find that level of success. Adam Rittenberg,
Speaker 5: not just about IU, but the entirety of the Big Ten.
Speaker 5: There is so much to get into with the Big Ten.
Speaker 5: We kind of scratched the surface. Pete and Nakos joined
Speaker 5: us a couple of days ago. Zach Osterman yesterday from Chicago.
Speaker 5: We really haven't got involved with everybody else, but you
Speaker 5: have coaching situations that are new at Michigan, at Penn State,
Speaker 5: at Michigan State, and nose dive into that we're going
Speaker 5: to do. You've got five years now going into and
Speaker 5: Lincoln Riley USC where it's time to get something done.
Speaker 5: Speaking of time to get something done, they have been
Speaker 5: really good, but you kind of wonder what Dante More
Speaker 5: at quarterback, where Oregon finally is going to put itself.
Speaker 5: Is it time to really have that massive breakthrough. And
Speaker 5: then Purdue obviously just trying to fight their way from
Speaker 5: the bottom. A lot of interesting storylines going on in
Speaker 5: the Big Ten. Adam Rittenberg of ESPN on ESPN dot
Speaker 5: compl joined us coming up in the five o'clock hour.
Speaker 5: I mentioned this a little bit earlier. I think our
Speaker 5: station sent out a video. You guys can help me
Speaker 5: out a video of me talking about it. I kind
Speaker 5: of laugh about this because last time out, Kaitlyn Clark
Speaker 5: was really good, Kelsey Mitchell was really good, the fever
Speaker 5: really good, and most people say, well, it's the Seattle
Speaker 5: Storm and they stink. And while you're right about that,
Speaker 5: they had a red hot player and that was a
Speaker 5: team that hung around, hung with the fever not too
Speaker 5: long ago here in Indy. So to come out of
Speaker 5: the All Star break, I just thought the fever looked different,
Speaker 5: and I hope that that holds true. Later on tonight
Speaker 5: against the Portland Fire, but it was a team that
Speaker 5: just looked different. That to me was the signature moment
Speaker 5: so far of how this squad needs to look or
Speaker 5: how this team lives up to expectations, because that's what
Speaker 5: it's all about, the expectations. I thought Caitlin Clark was
Speaker 5: so good what thirty two and seven, And what that
Speaker 5: shows me is she's going out there and getting hers
Speaker 5: she's knocking down from distance. The shots she's stepping into
Speaker 5: from distance aren't looking like the heaves that they did.
Speaker 5: It looks like I am stepping into this son of
Speaker 5: a gun, and I'm stepping into this confidently. It didn't
Speaker 5: look like a heave. And there you're also going to
Speaker 5: find a difference in those that are talking about it,
Speaker 5: that describe her game and three point shooting, because there
Speaker 5: are a lot of people out there that think it's
Speaker 5: great when she's like one of ten. As long as
Speaker 5: that want is from thirty feet, all right, nobody cares.
Speaker 5: That sucks. Seriously, Listen, I'll applaud the one time in
Speaker 5: ten you hit it from thirty feet, but I'll take
Speaker 5: the time when you shoot forty percent from distance. That's
Speaker 5: what matters. That's what helps you win. And you know,
Speaker 5: when you get thirty plus and your team scores one
Speaker 5: hundred plus and then you look at the stat line
Speaker 5: and you dish out seven dimes. In the process, you're
Speaker 5: also getting everybody else involved. And remember that was a
Speaker 5: lot of that game without Eli at Boston, so probably
Speaker 5: even more magnified in that case if she were to
Speaker 5: play the entirety of the game. But to me, even
Speaker 5: above that and how they're playing it again, I think
Speaker 5: that was the signature game we've made. Been asking whether
Speaker 5: or not they're going to turn the corner or whatever
Speaker 5: cliche sports wise you want to use for a team
Speaker 5: that hasn't lived up to expectations and now you believe
Speaker 5: it's time to do so. But what I love about
Speaker 5: it is it quittes everybody down. And what I like
Speaker 5: most about Caitlin Clark is is what she says. Now,
Speaker 5: you guys, some of you guys like her when she's
Speaker 5: one of ten from thirty feet, that's not my favorite thing.
Speaker 5: My favorite thing is somebody that it just goes out
Speaker 5: there and wants to play and wants to compete. Now,
Speaker 5: in situations on the floor, you don't want to get
Speaker 5: that next technical because you don't want to compromise yourself
Speaker 5: for a game. You just don't. You're way, way, way
Speaker 5: too important. However, the fight, the competing, that's what I love,
Speaker 5: and the fact that you just concentrate on basketball living
Speaker 5: in the WorldWind of jack assery that surrounds everything that
Speaker 5: she does. And the best part about what took place
Speaker 5: on Tuesday night in that game in Seattle and again
Speaker 5: hopefully that's carry over to tonight because they got a
Speaker 5: big one coming up on Sunday, I mean a large one,
Speaker 5: is that it squashes so much of that ridiculous, dumbass
Speaker 5: dialogue that we have to go through constantly. All the
Speaker 5: other stuff, and I'm talking about the stuff that is
Speaker 5: on the fringe, not even basketball related, or the stuff
Speaker 5: regarding Kaitlin Clark and her teammates and her head coach. Hey,
Speaker 5: I get it. I get that the WNBA is at
Speaker 5: times will be jacking around to the point where you go,
Speaker 5: what are you guys doing? But when it comes down
Speaker 5: to basketball and has played like that, that's exactly what
Speaker 5: you want to see, Kim. They be better defensively, there's
Speaker 5: no question about it, improving of the categories that they
Speaker 5: struggled early in the season or earlier in the season
Speaker 5: when the ward is good. Turnover category and they beat
Speaker 5: a team on Tuesday night that turned the build over
Speaker 5: four times, Seattle turned it over four times. So turnovers defense,
Speaker 5: which has to improve still, and then fouling not fouling
Speaker 5: as much. Those are situations that absolutely have to improve.
Speaker 5: I think that coincides with the improvement of this team.
Speaker 5: I think her health and the way that she feels
Speaker 5: coincides with the way this team plays. And then I
Speaker 5: think when they play that well, it squashes so much
Speaker 5: of that crap that has to be absolutely exhausting. There's
Speaker 5: not a lot of things I talk about in what
Speaker 5: I do in terms of well that's exhausting to me,
Speaker 5: because listen, I'm not working at Jackhammer. I'm not out
Speaker 5: of the fields working, I'm not putting up pay, I'm
Speaker 5: not doing anything like a lot of you do on
Speaker 5: a daily basis out there. So there's really nothing I'm
Speaker 5: exhausted about. Yeah, I'm sitting here in a chair yip
Speaker 5: yapping about sports right now. That's not exhausting. I don't care.
Speaker 5: Regardless of what you're talking about. I'm not exhausted by it.
Speaker 5: But it does tend when it's rapid fire and it's constant,
Speaker 5: and you're the one of the crosshairs and you're the
Speaker 5: one that's constantly being talked about. Even if you don't
Speaker 5: pay attention, I mean, it does. It comes across your
Speaker 5: desk more than you think. Because we just can't get
Speaker 5: out of the way. I mean, hell, I'd like to
Speaker 5: think that this X account that I have would be
Speaker 5: able to keep me from reading all these jackass political
Speaker 5: things here because there's something I'm going to go to
Speaker 5: it right now, Caleb, it says hey for you, let
Speaker 5: me tell you this. With all due respect to Andrew Ireland,
Speaker 5: I don't give two craps what he says. I don't
Speaker 5: know what that's not for me? Was it on there? Well,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, And nothing against him. I'm
Speaker 5: just using him as an example or I don't care
Speaker 5: what Micah Beckwood has to say, but all of a sudden,
Speaker 5: it's for me. What I'm trying to tell you is
Speaker 5: it is virtually impossible unless you shut it all down,
Speaker 5: and I mean all of it down, to get out
Speaker 5: of the way. And what you end up doing when
Speaker 5: you play well and you reach or exceed the expectations.
Speaker 5: You squash all that dialogue because then you have those
Speaker 5: without claws, without fangs that can no longer go and
Speaker 5: try to use you as a tuning fork to hopefully
Speaker 5: get more hits, to get more clicks to your brand.
Speaker 5: This isn't my brand. Yeah, well, if your brand is
Speaker 5: a jackass, then well done. There's virtually no way to
Speaker 5: get around it unless you shut it all down. And
Speaker 5: as I mentioned, it's easy for me or you to
Speaker 5: sit here and tell them that. I mean, hell, it's easy.
Speaker 5: I'm fifty six, what the hell do I care? But
Speaker 5: for somebody in their twenties, and you know, with that
Speaker 5: notoriety all this, it's virtually impossible. But man, you do
Speaker 5: yourself and your team such a service when you go
Speaker 5: out there and you just bowl and in the process
Speaker 5: you kick ass and you just bowl more of that,
Speaker 5: hopefully coming up later on tonight. Seriously, you look at
Speaker 5: the lack coming out of the All Star Break, really
Speaker 5: the lack of any criticism, and not everybody, and we're
Speaker 5: talking about Fever fans or Kaitlin Clark fans that go crazy.
Speaker 5: You don't get arrest. You don't get arrest until some
Speaker 5: of these non basketball knowing jackasses don't have anything to
Speaker 5: discuss or talk about. And that's what Tuesday Night did,
Speaker 5: and hopefully that's what tonight does because you got a
Speaker 5: big one. And believe me, the ultimate Gauge and Hoop
Speaker 5: will be coming up on Sunday at one o'clock with
Speaker 5: the Minnesota Lynx Olivia Miles, who is a baller. Speaking
Speaker 5: of baller, Caleb Zuver is here now. I want to
Speaker 5: ask you this. So I come in from our pre
Speaker 5: show meeting this time because Nigel, I think, is on vacation.
Speaker 5: Me and Jason Hammer and john Ette Cruz ninety three
Speaker 5: wibc apple of me. Right now, we go for our
Speaker 5: pre show meeting. You said I have stuff to do,
Speaker 5: and then I get back and you look like Zeke
Speaker 5: the cat. The way that you're feeding on some barbecue.
Speaker 5: Where's this barbecue from? Well, I kind of tell the
Speaker 5: audience first.
Speaker 3: The way you like backed away from me as I
Speaker 3: was eating it as I crouched on the ground five
Speaker 3: minutes before the show started made me laugh. It was
Speaker 3: like I was a feral rodent of some sort, just
Speaker 3: non on it.
Speaker 5: Seriously, I thought that was that was a buzzard on
Speaker 5: the side of the road like apossum macarcass I go,
Speaker 5: what are you doing here? You were down on all
Speaker 5: fours like feeding from the bowl.
Speaker 4: I was. It is our friend Nathaniel.
Speaker 3: He has a a buddy named Tony who every Friday
Speaker 3: and Saturday, I believe he cooks some barbecue, has a
Speaker 3: couple side options, and so every once in a while
Speaker 3: on Friday, isn't they don't hit me up like you
Speaker 3: want some barbecue?
Speaker 4: I say yeah every time because it's really good.
Speaker 5: What do we know where they give the guy some props,
Speaker 5: the people some props.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's he's out and speedway uh in Speedway barbecue.
Speaker 5: Do you know the name? It's he runs it out
Speaker 5: of his backyard. Really, he just barbecue. Holy hell? So
Speaker 5: when did you get this diro foam container that looked
Speaker 5: professional as hell right there?
Speaker 4: They wrap it and everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he he buys all that stuff and prepares it
Speaker 3: and puts it together.
Speaker 4: And then I beautiful like a buzzard.
Speaker 3: You tell me buzzard is more of what I was,
Speaker 3: and not a fair o cat. I think buzzard. You
Speaker 3: did say frail cat and that was weird.
Speaker 5: That was hey, By the way, tonight, I am skeptical
Speaker 5: about us hooping on Sunday because there's an old man
Speaker 5: tournament going on at the ARC with a hell of
Speaker 5: a lot of teams.
Speaker 1: I guess.
Speaker 5: So our good friend, our mutual friend that we play with,
Speaker 5: Mike landis put in our text stream this morning, our
Speaker 5: our text group, you know, asking me if I wanted
Speaker 5: to play, and I figured it was to be with him,
Speaker 5: and I go, yeah, i'll play, I'll do it, you know.
Speaker 5: And then I get all hardcore and I go, I'll
Speaker 5: play anywhere, at any time, and I'm flexing, right, And
Speaker 5: then he says, all right, well you're playing. And I'm
Speaker 5: not even playing with him. I'm not playing with anybody
Speaker 5: I know. So there's zero way I'm not going to
Speaker 5: be injured tonight. Now, I guess I'm playing with some
Speaker 5: dudes from Florida that are flying in at nine thirty
Speaker 5: tonight at the ARC.
Speaker 4: It's a primetime tip off, man.
Speaker 5: You know, how incredibly drum I'm going to. I don't
Speaker 5: know if that's a good thing or a bad thing,
Speaker 5: because sometimes it's a good thing. Yeah, but yeah, I
Speaker 5: just go, what nine thirty? But I agreed to play,
Speaker 5: So I'm going to play and there's some dudes from
Speaker 5: Florida and evidently they only had four and like a
Speaker 5: couple of more are coming tomorrow. I can't play tomorrow night,
Speaker 5: obviously because of the Jambi tickover, but I think we're
Speaker 5: going to be the Furious five out there and it's
Speaker 5: all like officials and this is normally. I'm not going
Speaker 5: to suggest this is a case right now. I've never
Speaker 5: been there and played. It's a tremendous facility, and really
Speaker 5: the ARC is a south side facility, as I mentioned yesterday,
Speaker 5: that is so incredibly needed. But history will reflect this always.
Speaker 5: These situations don't end well for me because I don't
Speaker 5: deal well with on court Gus macer like pissing and
Speaker 5: moaning and yelling and yapping. I don't deal well with
Speaker 5: that at all. Like I yap, but I yap about
Speaker 5: me like my yap, I motivate my like I'm cussing me.
Speaker 5: I don't ever get on anybody else, well unless Rick
Speaker 5: Clark's Jerry picking down on the other end. You throw
Speaker 5: it to him. But no, that's the only thing that
Speaker 5: I ever gripe about. And these situations, I hope that
Speaker 5: it's not Gus macer ask because I rinsed out of
Speaker 5: that years ago, so hopefully not that that became nuts.
Speaker 3: It's only five of you. There's no subs oh Man,
Speaker 3: not left, not unless Mike Gut cliffy Cliffe can go
Speaker 3: out and hurt some dudes.
Speaker 2: YEAHO.
Speaker 3: I just think that people should really know, if they
Speaker 3: don't already, that you are.
Speaker 4: You are all about hoop man.
Speaker 3: Love you just at any time you are going to
Speaker 3: take up the opportunity.
Speaker 5: I love it, and part of it is to me.
Speaker 5: And while I love basketball and there's no lion here,
Speaker 5: I love basketball, I also do it because that is
Speaker 5: my workout regimen, my workout regiment because I think running sucks.
Speaker 5: I've always felt that running itself individual running and if
Speaker 5: you do it, good for you. But any time I
Speaker 5: ever had to run in my existence, I had to
Speaker 5: pay the price of a punishment. That's why I was running.
Speaker 5: Thus I've never liked it. Oh yeah, you know, John
Speaker 5: got bad grades. He's got to run. Hey, John was
Speaker 5: out too late, He's got to run. Well, John did
Speaker 5: this in practice, He's got to run. John. It was
Speaker 5: always me having to run and somebody else telling me
Speaker 5: that I had to run. So I think running sucks.
Speaker 5: I think running. I view running and my son, at
Speaker 5: Ron Colly was across country and a distance runner, and
Speaker 5: I thought I thought that he was a maniac. I go,
Speaker 5: I don't know where this comes from here, but because
Speaker 5: I always preach like this is sucks, this is awful,
Speaker 5: but he did it, and I I don't like it.
Speaker 5: So this is my workout regiment. And knowing that what
Speaker 5: I got to play on Sunday likely I got to
Speaker 5: get something in this weekend. So it's going to be
Speaker 5: tonight at nine thirty at the Arc.
Speaker 4: You run the floor, though.
Speaker 5: I run run the floor. I four well. And the
Speaker 5: thing that I've noticed too, especially younger, that's what you
Speaker 5: have to do when I play against because how old
Speaker 5: are you? Say, I'm fifty six and a half. So
Speaker 5: you have to do that against the younger generation. And
Speaker 5: if you do that against the older generation, they half asset.
Speaker 5: So that's an advantage. I know, half ass. Like Wednesday night,
Speaker 5: there was some half ass in getting back on d
Speaker 5: I wouldn't worry about that one, but no, it and
Speaker 5: the problem is, and I said, hey, I wan't plan
Speaker 5: on a team that runs any old ass half court offense.
Speaker 5: Let's get out and go and the reason being is
Speaker 5: I have to have that on both ends because if
Speaker 5: I spend more than like three seconds defensively, I am screwed.
Speaker 5: I can't guard anybody, nobody. I'm like a half a
Speaker 5: step left and a half a step right, and hopefully
Speaker 5: there's some hopefully there's some help, because I'm blanked. I'm
Speaker 5: completely blanked. I wish I could move. I don't know
Speaker 5: what half of my lateral movement never was incredible, but
Speaker 5: it's awful now. So I don't know what that is about.
Speaker 5: I guess age. I guess lateral movement problematic. But hey,
Speaker 5: shout out again. And the Arc, if you haven't heard,
Speaker 5: is a brand new facility that is opening up on
Speaker 5: the south side, right off of Stone's Crossing and one
Speaker 5: thirty five that is spectacular. And with south siders, you
Speaker 5: understand that this has been a long time coming because
Speaker 5: there have not been a place down there to do that,
Speaker 5: to get stuff going like that. And on the north side,
Speaker 5: you guys have everything. You've got Finch Creek, You've got
Speaker 5: I think it's mojo now, I don't know what it is.
Speaker 5: You got the Pacers facility, you got all those great facilities.
Speaker 5: And now on the south side, you have the arc,
Speaker 5: which is state of the art. I'd be me nine
Speaker 5: thirty later on tonight, and we'll see what type of
Speaker 5: tremendous condition or lack thereof I'm in this evening. All right,
Speaker 5: State Fair passes too. I do want to get to
Speaker 5: the zone. We talked about that a couple of days
Speaker 5: ago with Austin Karp of the Sports Business Journal. This
Speaker 5: is a quick reminder to the Pacers and those involved
Speaker 5: with the decision making, and maybe that decision has already made.
Speaker 5: The zone better be deffordable, because if it's not deffordable,
Speaker 5: then you're going to lose fans. So I hope that
Speaker 5: this is not a situation like the is gonna go
Speaker 5: with it. You're the Colts. This better be a tremendous opportunity,
Speaker 5: and not just any port in the storm. True, And
Speaker 5: this is not just for the Pacers, the Spurs or
Speaker 5: in this as well, the New York teams. The defending
Speaker 5: champs are in this. Stop jacking with the fans, because
Speaker 5: the fans are sick and tired of being jacked with,
Speaker 5: especially monetarily. All right, if you want to spend, spend,
Speaker 5: all right, but there's gonna be a cap on any
Speaker 5: fan base, not just this one. With the amount they spend,
Speaker 5: it better be cost efficient and nothing, and I mean
Speaker 5: nothing the way that it looks at just to the
Speaker 5: eyeballs right like thirty four thirty five dollars a month. Seriously,
Speaker 5: as they say in Southern Indiana, ain't nobody doing that.
Speaker 5: Don't run people off, especially now when there is so
Speaker 5: much promise, so much opportunity, so much interest. Don't run
Speaker 5: people off with a product that's too ridiculously expensive to
Speaker 5: view the content. Talk about that coming up a little
Speaker 5: bit later on too. Zach Kix is going to join us.
Speaker 5: Debbie Antonelli, one of my favorites, is going to be
Speaker 5: on the show Fever Television Analysts, coming up at four thirty,
Speaker 5: and Adam Rittenberg talks college football and the Big Ten
Speaker 5: specifically coming up at the five o'clock. Howur State Fair
Speaker 5: passes as well? That's Caleb, I'm John, thank you for
Speaker 5: joining us. Are we weather active? We do not have
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Speaker 1: The Ride with jmv.
Speaker 8: Oh you got jokes to go along with that ugly
Speaker 8: jumpsy out of yours.
Speaker 1: Notty three five and one oh seven five the fan,
Speaker 1: Damn run I do. Caleb's over there.
Speaker 5: I'm John. Caleb had some backyard barbecue a little bit earlier,
Speaker 5: just literally from somebody's backyard and speedway, but he enjoyed
Speaker 5: it a great deal. Dam v thanks for the good
Speaker 5: laugh opening up the show. I refuse to believe culture
Speaker 5: management of the words. Actions have proven those words to
Speaker 5: be false. That's the other thing, too, is so much
Speaker 5: has been said and so much has not been lived
Speaker 5: up to to this point. You just kind of do
Speaker 5: you remember, though, the moment in Major League? How can
Speaker 5: I put this without offending somebody who knows the moment
Speaker 5: in Major League where they take a shot over the
Speaker 5: press box. Caleb, have you seen the movie Major League?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 5: And all the riders up there are doing this, and
Speaker 5: you guys can see it right now. This seriously, when
Speaker 5: most of the time when the Colts are talking about
Speaker 5: expectations and what they're going to do, this is exactly
Speaker 5: what everybody's doing. And it's not that you're trying to
Speaker 5: be a jackass. It's not that you're trying to be funny.
Speaker 5: I'm not trying to be funny. I can just tell
Speaker 5: you because I have the pulse of the fan base,
Speaker 5: this is what they believe. That is they ah, yeah whatever,
Speaker 5: And this is not the first year of it. Now
Speaker 5: they do have a little bit to go on. Now
Speaker 5: we'll see coming back from an achilles injury. But the
Speaker 5: offense was exceptional until the quarterback was injured. Now the
Speaker 5: quarterback is coming off an injury. The wide receiver got
Speaker 5: paid and is coming off surgery. There now is going
Speaker 5: to be more knowledge of Hey, that's not Daniel Jones,
Speaker 5: who beat out one of the more inaccurate passers we've
Speaker 5: ever seen draft at number four overall in the NFL
Speaker 5: draft history, and Anthony Richardson, it's more than just that Neil.
Speaker 5: Now there is like even more tape on Daniel Jones
Speaker 5: and Shane Steichen together and how to start that if
Speaker 5: you remember, even before that injury, when they go to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5: And I know Pittsburgh has always been problematic and likely
Speaker 5: will be again this year, but Pittsburgh looked like that
Speaker 5: they had one hell of a defensive diagnosis. And what
Speaker 5: the culture tried to do a year ago. But there
Speaker 5: are a lot of things you have to overcome. But
Speaker 5: I think I can speak for the fan base out there,
Speaker 5: there's nothing that dal this is your enthusiasm because frankly,
Speaker 5: you're just ready for the season to start. But when
Speaker 5: somebody over there talks about this is what we're gonna do,
Speaker 5: and this is what we believe, you guys are giving
Speaker 5: us the Major League the imitation dolphin flog, this is
Speaker 5: what you're doing, and that the way you get away
Speaker 5: from that is proof is results. Corey writes this, of
Speaker 5: all important things you can learn in high school and college,
Speaker 5: it's alarming how nobody ever lectures on the absence of
Speaker 5: basic lateral movement after the age of thirty five. That's
Speaker 5: so true. I'm thirty eight, and anytime I move laterally,
Speaker 5: my knees sound like jiffy pop. So here's what's funny.
Speaker 5: They always say, when you defensive slide, right, you don't hop,
Speaker 5: you slide. I'm at a point right now where I
Speaker 5: almost can gain more ground when I hop and not slide.
Speaker 5: You guys ever do defensive drills back in the day,
Speaker 5: and hey, you gotta slide. Hey you're hopping. You gotta
Speaker 5: keep your butt down and slide. Yeah, I would always
Speaker 5: be hopping. Thus I would have to be punished and
Speaker 5: then run, another reason why I hate running. But now
Speaker 5: it's almost like I'm gonna go ahead and gain more
Speaker 5: ground if I hop instead of slide. It's kind of
Speaker 5: weird how that happens, but it is, on the other hand,
Speaker 5: incredibly true. Right there. Hey, jam Vy, I understand the
Speaker 5: Colts started out hot last season, but look at the
Speaker 5: first half of the schedule, nothing but cupcakes outside of Denver, Maddy, Matt.
Speaker 5: You can add that to the equation too. There is
Speaker 5: a lot to overcome, and as I've always put it,
Speaker 5: there was just so much of crossing your fingers and
Speaker 5: hoping for the best. Simply put, if they were to
Speaker 5: have first round options, they probably would not be going
Speaker 5: down this path right now. They would have rinsed it
Speaker 5: and started. But you were just kind of forced to
Speaker 5: roll with it. And here you are. And those are
Speaker 5: just facts. That's not anything I'm just making up or
Speaker 5: saying for the sake of saying it. Those are facts.
Speaker 5: Thank you, Greg Harrison for the kind words right there.
Speaker 5: I appreciate that. Hey, back to the Pacers and Desonne
Speaker 5: for a minute. We're not completely concrete sure that that's
Speaker 5: going to be the case. But I would again advise,
Speaker 5: we have a lot of people that look at the
Speaker 5: price tag right now before we know absolutely they think
Speaker 5: and they're not digging it. You got to be really careful,
Speaker 5: really careful. You cannot be running people off. BT writes this,
Speaker 5: I've been and will always be a Pacers fan, fell
Speaker 5: in love with them as a kid of the nineteen seventies.
Speaker 5: If they think for one minute I'm going to pay
Speaker 5: thirty five dollars a month to watch the games, they've
Speaker 5: lost their minds. In my fifty five years a Pacers fandom,
Speaker 5: I've never been this disappointed. Well, I would suggest, I'm
Speaker 5: not sure. Is there anything concrete that suggests that that's
Speaker 5: going to be the price tag that there has to be.
Speaker 5: I'm more financially responsible for your fan base and the
Speaker 5: viewer's way to approach this. There's zero way that you
Speaker 5: can roll that out and expect people to be watching now. Granted,
Speaker 5: I want you to listen to the radio boil, but
Speaker 5: I'll be watching Christen Aar and Quinn and Eddie and JJ.
Speaker 5: We all want to watch. But I would concur with
Speaker 5: the fact that you would not be the only one
Speaker 5: here bt that would be incredibly pissed about it. I
Speaker 5: don't think you could have enough watch parties to satisfy.
Speaker 5: But again, we don't know the context, if indeed that
Speaker 5: is going to be the case just yet. So I
Speaker 5: guess what I'm saying is we'll worry about that when
Speaker 5: it's significant enough to worry about. But I would agree
Speaker 5: with you, there's no and I mean no way, no way,
Speaker 5: anybody's gonna pay that. I don't blame you. And think
Speaker 5: about it right now, Remember when cutting the cord was
Speaker 5: financially responsible, and now you find yourself, well, I gotta
Speaker 5: have this straight. I gotta have this, this app, bad app,
Speaker 5: nineteen different apps. I'm an idiot because of how much
Speaker 5: I pay for direct TV. But at the same time,
Speaker 5: what it has delivered so far for my simple taste
Speaker 5: is the things that I have to or want to
Speaker 5: watch are right there, and it ensures I didn't have
Speaker 5: to pay an extra thirty five dollars a month for
Speaker 5: the reason I pay. I have all of the movie
Speaker 5: channels in hell, I never watch them. I've got like
Speaker 5: MGM at home. I have all these movie channels. I
Speaker 5: watch the same damn thing every day. I don't know
Speaker 5: why I have all of them. I've got Stars and
Speaker 5: the Movie Channel and whatever show Time is, and all
Speaker 5: the HBO, all of it, MGM, IFC, Sundance, all of that.
Speaker 5: Hell Sundance does not even exist anymore as a festival,
Speaker 5: I don't think, but it's still a channel, right, Sundance
Speaker 5: got all of it. I found myself last night. I
Speaker 5: got home and I watched until I fell asleep after
Speaker 5: a handful of melatonin, which I do not advise. I
Speaker 5: was watching Two and a Half Men on IFC, and
Speaker 5: if you check around, two and a half Men are
Speaker 5: on like nineteen different channels at various moments over the
Speaker 5: course of the day every time. All right, so Seattle
Speaker 5: and Vegas are those going to be at some point
Speaker 5: the new NBA teams? How watered down do you think
Speaker 5: that's going to make the product when you add two teams?
Speaker 4: That's a great question, John.
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of people who think there's
Speaker 3: a real need for expansion, and then there's a lot
Speaker 3: of other people who think it's not gonna.
Speaker 5: Help at all it is. Is it gonna make the
Speaker 5: product worse?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Here here's the way I think of it. Like, guys
Speaker 3: that were playing for the Pacers this past year would
Speaker 3: probably be some guys that would maybe find their way
Speaker 3: on expansion teams.
Speaker 5: So normally you have to give up how many players
Speaker 5: make them eligible for a draft.
Speaker 3: You can protect a certain amount before and who knows
Speaker 3: what that number will be if they're adding two who would.
Speaker 5: You would not protect from the pacerss if it were
Speaker 5: to happen right now? I mean, I know exactly what
Speaker 5: everybody's gonna say. They're gonna say Shepherd. And that's why
Speaker 5: that's the first one.
Speaker 1: What Shepherd.
Speaker 9: Like.
Speaker 3: I feel like someone that would be on the fence.
Speaker 3: On the fence would be like a Jerris Walker, Like
Speaker 3: what do you do? Like depending on the number of
Speaker 3: the protect, number of players you can protect, like what
Speaker 3: do you do with him? He might be one that's like,
Speaker 3: oh wow, they actually let him go, But you know
Speaker 3: how you've talked to Chad b cannan, how they feel
Speaker 3: about the court. None of those guys are gonna go.
Speaker 3: And then you start getting out of the nitty gritty now.
Speaker 5: For two years, Yeah, maybe this has got to be
Speaker 5: And again this further magnifies why your television content provider
Speaker 5: has to be top notch because you are so counting
Speaker 5: on these next two years now, and the NBA not
Speaker 5: figuring this out is ridiculous. There's gonna be a point
Speaker 5: in time, and this is everybody included. This is the NFL, NBA,
Speaker 5: Major League Baseball. If they keep you continuously on some
Speaker 5: big turd hunt all the time to find all these games,
Speaker 5: there's gonna be enough people out there to check out
Speaker 5: to where you're gonna notice it. I say this all
Speaker 5: the time about us. You've gotta make sure your club
Speaker 5: is inclusive as possible.
Speaker 9: Oh.
Speaker 5: I preach this in this building constantly. Now I don't
Speaker 5: know if anybody listens, but I'll preach it, but as
Speaker 5: inclusive as possible because there is so much out there
Speaker 5: right now, so much content that's available, out of sight,
Speaker 5: out of mind. Don't want to be that. Let me
Speaker 5: take your break. We'll come back. So Zach kicks locked
Speaker 5: on Colts coming up at the top of the hour,
Speaker 5: magnified how the dudes have to stay healthy on this team,
Speaker 5: and you're talking about a couple of dudes that come
Speaker 5: into the season trying to prove that they can maintain health.
Speaker 5: Zach Kicks Locked on Colts top of the hour, Debbie
Speaker 5: Antonelle is going to join us the Fever television analyst
Speaker 5: The Fever in Portland coming up later on tonight. Debbie
Speaker 5: joins us at four thirty and Adam Rittenberg at five o'clock.
Speaker 5: We'll talk college football, Big ten and more with Adam
Speaker 5: ESPN on ESPN dot com. We have State Fair passes
Speaker 5: and more, but right now, a quick weather update from
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Speaker 1: Nine The Ride with JMV. I love winning, man, I
Speaker 1: love winning you. Hear what I'm saying. He's like better
Speaker 1: than losing that. He's three five and one oh seven five.
Speaker 1: The Fan.
Speaker 5: Colts Conversation Zach Hicks of Lucked on Colts coming up
Speaker 5: at the top of the hour, text line comment three
Speaker 5: p one seven two, three, nine, ten seventy. Right now, JMV,
Speaker 5: people are losing their minds over thirty five dollars a
Speaker 5: month to watch the Pacers while walking into Starbucks for
Speaker 5: an eight dollars coffee without blinking. First of all, the
Speaker 5: problem you're gonna have is if people go I'm not
Speaker 5: jacking around with an eight dollars cup of coffee anymore,
Speaker 5: so I'm not going there That's what I'm telling you. Hey,
Speaker 5: maybe I'm gonna go to Speedway and get it for
Speaker 5: a dollar and a half. Maybe I'm gonna bring my own.
Speaker 5: Maybe I'm not even gonna drinking anymore. It's about six
Speaker 5: fourteen a game. If it's worth it, buy it. If
Speaker 5: it's not, don't. But let's not pretend this is the
Speaker 5: financial crime of the century. I'm not trying to turn
Speaker 5: this Jr. Into the financial crime of the century. I
Speaker 5: am trying to maintain a level of you do not
Speaker 5: want to lose your fan base. There are a lot
Speaker 5: of ways you can do that, and riding them on
Speaker 5: a content driven price tag is one of those significant pieces.
Speaker 5: That's all I'm saying. Maybe it is listen, and that's
Speaker 5: why I've also stated, we have no idea. We don't
Speaker 5: know what it's going to look like. We don't know
Speaker 5: if this is true or if it's false. So I
Speaker 5: have said eight we'll stay chilled, but I will advise
Speaker 5: that this has to be financially responsible for people. You
Speaker 5: have a two year window right here, and then who
Speaker 5: knows what the hell happens after that. You got a
Speaker 5: lot of decision making on what people are going for
Speaker 5: their content for anything right now. You cannot jack with
Speaker 5: the fan base. That's all I'm saying. Kirk writes this
Speaker 5: inclusive question mark, would that be getting a signal more
Speaker 5: than ten miles from downtown? The fan is missing reaching
Speaker 5: people having to go to YouTube more on an app
Speaker 5: is not inclusive. The old ten seventy was great for it, Kirk,
Speaker 5: I would advise, what do you think I argue about,
Speaker 5: by the way, what I argue about on the air
Speaker 5: all the time against my boss's wishes, What do you
Speaker 5: think that is? That's me. It's not your imagination, it's me.
Speaker 5: That's what I do. I preach about this constantly. No,
Speaker 5: I completely understand. Oh yeah, don't factor in when it rains.
Speaker 5: By god, it's me and nobody wants me to, but
Speaker 5: I feel compelled to because I understand. And that's my point.
Speaker 5: You have to be easy. If it's a pain in
Speaker 5: your ass, you're going to bail. That's significant to me
Speaker 5: because they're a way, and I mean, way too many
Speaker 5: other options out there, and my dumb ass will run
Speaker 5: you off anyway. So it's not like I need some
Speaker 5: bad signal to run somebody off because I'm an idiot.
Speaker 5: I completely understand. Listen, I'm an advocate here for it.
Speaker 5: I don't like it. I can't sit here and not
Speaker 5: tell you the truth about stuff. And that certainly is
Speaker 5: the top of the list. But that is what I
Speaker 5: preach about, as I mentioned earlier, down the hole all
Speaker 5: of the time. Thank you, Kirk. All right, Zach Kicks
Speaker 5: coming up at the top of the hour lockdown. Colts
Speaker 5: the first time on with me. He's been on this
Speaker 5: show before, all my fellas. I'm ready. Oh look, we've
Speaker 5: got the whole heat hal gang out there in the hallway.
Speaker 5: We've got a during the show meeting coming up at
Speaker 5: the four o'clock hour, Zach Kicks. On the other side,
Speaker 5: Debbie Antonelli, the fever analyst, is going to join us.
Speaker 5: Bottom of the hour ninety three five one oh seven
Speaker 5: five The Fan the ride with JMV. This is how
Speaker 5: I eat corner of the cob. I boil it, I
Speaker 5: go shirtless out of my back deck, eat it like
Speaker 5: I ravage it, and then throw the cob out into
Speaker 5: the back forty that.
Speaker 1: He three five and one oh seven five The Fan.
Speaker 7: Well, I love Jonathan, I mean he he's I'm really
Speaker 7: proud of the leader that he's become on our team
Speaker 7: and he's one of our pillars. His pictures on the
Speaker 7: stadium for a reason, and I would love it if
Speaker 7: he would be a cult for life.
Speaker 5: Carly ERSA. Gordon a little bit earlier today at Coach
Speaker 5: Camp drop light in Westfield at Grant Park. I'll be
Speaker 5: up there on the twentieth. And here's what's interesting, right,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get to the comment regarding Jonathan Taylor and
Speaker 5: his mood, which is kind of interesting too. We'll get
Speaker 5: to that coming up at a minute. But I know, Caleb,
Speaker 5: you said our next guest is going to be in
Speaker 5: town when next week's week? Yeah, so he's in Maryland.
Speaker 5: That's his home base is in Maryland. Correct, Virginia close
Speaker 5: on ID you Eastern seaboard. Here's what's funny about it.
Speaker 5: His ass is going to be there before mine. How
Speaker 5: about that. I don't get up there until August the
Speaker 5: twentieth on the Anymore Automotive Group potline, the first time
Speaker 5: he's been on with me. Has been on here a
Speaker 5: multitude of times throughout the station, but in the afternoon.
Speaker 5: I know Derek Schultz, his partner on Locked On Colts,
Speaker 5: more than occasionally has had him on. Zach Hicks from
Speaker 5: Locked On Colts kind enough to join us now again
Speaker 5: on the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline. So you're gonna
Speaker 5: beat me here to camp coming from Virginia. That's not good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, we got to.
Speaker 10: Get out there.
Speaker 11: We got to get you out there a little bit earlier, man.
Speaker 11: But now it's all good as long as you get
Speaker 11: to see a couple of practices, and then I think
Speaker 11: there's no issue with it.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 2: You need a couple to really get a feel for things.
Speaker 5: Oh, it'll be great. They love yeah, they love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Chris will come sit right next to him and
Speaker 5: we'll have some dialogue for a while. We'll be thoroughly
Speaker 5: enjoying that moment. I'm sure, Zach. But you're getting here
Speaker 5: next week. I think you guys do a great job.
Speaker 5: You and Jake do a great job on breaking things down.
Speaker 5: I'm going to start right here and then get off
Speaker 5: to some of the points I know you've made in
Speaker 5: the past. I mention the attitude if you will right now,
Speaker 5: Jonathan Taylor. J Taylor looks like a dude that's coming
Speaker 5: to an end of the contract, that believes that it's
Speaker 5: not going to be the end of his deal, that
Speaker 5: something is in the works here. Is that how it
Speaker 5: feels to you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely does.
Speaker 11: I mean we it's kind of funny because we have
Speaker 11: the experience of a couple of years ago, right where
Speaker 11: like all of that drama that we had with it
Speaker 11: coming into twenty twenty three, the culture coming off such
Speaker 11: a rough season and their star running back was wanting
Speaker 11: a new contract and it was just a weird spot
Speaker 11: that everybody was in and it was pretty played throughout
Speaker 11: the media and played throughout everything at all of camp,
Speaker 11: and it took a while to get that contract done.
Speaker 11: So there was speculation throughout, you know, all media spheres
Speaker 11: this offseason, like could we see another Jonathan Taylor hold out?
Speaker 11: He's done it in the past, it worked for him
Speaker 11: in the past, and now he's coming off like the
Speaker 11: most productive season he's had since twenty twenty one, and
Speaker 11: you know, he would have been in his right kind
Speaker 11: of to hold out and want more money for you know,
Speaker 11: for lack of a better term there. But yeah, it
Speaker 11: looks great like he's out there, he's smiling, he's practicing.
Speaker 11: It looks like he's really happy with where he's at.
Speaker 11: He's talked about it, and Chris Ballard's talked about it,
Speaker 11: and Carlier Sir Gordon's talked about it that they feel
Speaker 11: good with the direction.
Speaker 2: Everything's going with it.
Speaker 11: So it does seem like there have been some really
Speaker 11: good conversations behind the scenes about them progressing towards potentially
Speaker 11: a new deal and hopefully getting that done. So definitely
Speaker 11: a much better place than what it was last time
Speaker 11: we had these conversations where there was like trade request
Speaker 11: and all these things going out there publicly. Now it
Speaker 11: feels like everyone's back to business, which is especially cool
Speaker 11: because like we're seeing running backs across the league holding
Speaker 11: in right now, right like Bijon Robinson, Jamir Gibbs, and
Speaker 11: it's a popular thing and Taylor seems to be in
Speaker 11: a good place right now, so it's great to see.
Speaker 2: It's great for everyone.
Speaker 11: It's great for the fans because nobody likes, you know,
Speaker 11: seeing that stuff throughout the off season.
Speaker 2: So really good sign for the Colts going forward.
Speaker 5: What do you make of the major power moves being
Speaker 5: now executed by running backs right because it wasn't so
Speaker 5: long ago when it was just more than an afterthought
Speaker 5: than anything else.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean I think if you're looking at purely
Speaker 11: from the player perspective, I mean, these guys their bodies,
Speaker 11: most of them, most of them out, all of them. Right,
Speaker 11: Derek Henry is still going strong and he could probably
Speaker 11: keep playing until he's fifty at this point, but most
Speaker 11: of these running backs their bodies break down kind of
Speaker 11: in the late twenties early thirties. So really the first
Speaker 11: contract they're going to get, like the first big contract
Speaker 11: after the rookie deal, could be like their only big
Speaker 11: contract in the league. And we saw it in the
Speaker 11: past where like Le'Veon Bell for instance, tried to make
Speaker 11: that stand kind of by himself, like he tried to
Speaker 11: be the you know, doing the big holdout thing and
Speaker 11: trying to fight for more money, and it kind of backfired.
Speaker 11: So you really need like groups of guys to come
Speaker 11: together and kind of work on it together.
Speaker 2: To like earn that higher pay.
Speaker 11: And I have no doubt that, you know, Robinson and
Speaker 11: Gibbs will certainly get more than expected, just be because
Speaker 11: they are kind of standing in it together like that.
Speaker 2: So I think it's good for the guys.
Speaker 11: I mean, people can argue if it's smart for the
Speaker 11: teams and whatnot with positional value, but it's really their
Speaker 11: only chance to get their one big contract, whereas like
Speaker 11: quarterbacks are going to get multiple big contracts. They're going
Speaker 11: to see receivers getting two big contracts in the league,
Speaker 11: linemen getting two big contracts.
Speaker 2: So running backs you really just get the one.
Speaker 11: So I mean it makes sense personally to really maximize
Speaker 11: your value on that one contract.
Speaker 5: Does the market itself at that position now justify it
Speaker 5: more than it did, for examples, at five or so
Speaker 5: years ago.
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's interesting because if you look at it, like
Speaker 11: five years ago, we started to see this huge trend
Speaker 11: in the NFL where everything was becoming so pass first.
Speaker 11: Right defenses were getting eviscerated. Like when Tat Mahomes came
Speaker 11: home the scene like five six years ago, he threw
Speaker 11: for what fifty touchdowns five thousand yards and that was kind.
Speaker 2: Of the norm.
Speaker 11: You know, there was all these like huge passing totals
Speaker 11: and running backs were becoming like the auxiliary positions just
Speaker 11: to filter out the side stuff with quarterbacks. But in
Speaker 11: the last couple of years, we've seen this trend towards
Speaker 11: like under center football play. We're seeing more running of
Speaker 11: the football, more twelve and thirteen personnel like tight ends
Speaker 11: on the field, and we're seeing like the value of
Speaker 11: running back kind of creep up a little bit more.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's not what.
Speaker 11: It was like in the early two thousands, right where
Speaker 11: like the Shawn Alexanders and Edge and all them, like
Speaker 11: we're really dominant and you want to pay those guys
Speaker 11: and really get them going. But it definitely seems like
Speaker 11: running back value is in a better place right now
Speaker 11: than what it was like five six years ago, and
Speaker 11: teams are seeing the value. And I mean, look, the
Speaker 11: Chiefs went out there and paid big money to a
Speaker 11: free agent running back this offseason, and they've always kind
Speaker 11: of been at the forefront of a lot of things.
Speaker 11: So I think it's good for running backs, you know,
Speaker 11: I think their value is starting to come back a
Speaker 11: little bit where teams are seeing the value of like, hey,
Speaker 11: maybe you don't want to give them that third contract,
Speaker 11: but getting that running back on that second contract and
Speaker 11: throughout their rookie deal can be.
Speaker 2: A lot of value for your offense. So it's good
Speaker 2: for him.
Speaker 11: I mean especially you know, growing up and running backs
Speaker 11: were so vital. It was kind of sad seeing them
Speaker 11: go out of flavor there for a little bit, and
Speaker 11: now we're seeing the league trying to get back to
Speaker 11: run the football a little bit more so as like
Speaker 11: a football purist, you know, it's it's kind of fun
Speaker 11: seeing it.
Speaker 5: You know, it's funny as a football purist too, and
Speaker 5: a long time enjoyer like me and even older I'm
Speaker 5: assuming a lot older than you. I remember there a
Speaker 5: time when you know, the running back was on the
Speaker 5: level of the quarterback in terms of interest, and like
Speaker 5: like the Walter Payton's of the world. You had Walter
Speaker 5: Payton obviously oversettled everybody in Chicago, but Tony dor said
Speaker 5: in Dallas was much much greater when he got into
Speaker 5: the league, over Roger Staubach. I mean, it was just interesting,
Speaker 5: you know, frank O, Harris, Terry Bradshaw. That dynamic had
Speaker 5: always been very tight, if there was a race of
Speaker 5: sorts back then. And it kind of to me seems
Speaker 5: like that that position is growing in interest now, certainly
Speaker 5: more than just being well, we'll just kick the tires
Speaker 5: on somebody right here, we don't really care who is
Speaker 5: back there. It seems like there's more interest and more
Speaker 5: of a focus on that position now than there has
Speaker 5: been in recent history.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, for sure. I mean when you look back
Speaker 2: in like the eighties and nineties and.
Speaker 11: Especially before that too, how often we're running back going
Speaker 11: like first overall right in the draft, Like running backs
Speaker 11: are going very high in the draft. And now you know,
Speaker 11: we get all the analytics saying like, oh man, if
Speaker 11: you take a running back top ten, they better be
Speaker 11: super good because they're getting paid so much, and there
Speaker 11: is a push and pull to that, like, at the
Speaker 11: end of the day, quarterback right now is.
Speaker 2: Such a valuable position. Like I don't think there's a
Speaker 2: more valuable position.
Speaker 11: In any sport than quarterback, right And I don't think
Speaker 11: running back or any of these positions are really going
Speaker 11: to close the ground too much on that. But I
Speaker 11: do think we have seen a resurgence of running back
Speaker 11: a little bit more where maybe it's not to the
Speaker 11: level of quarterback, but maybe it's getting closer to the
Speaker 11: level of like a top receiver or a top tackle
Speaker 11: or something.
Speaker 2: Again, rather than just being this.
Speaker 11: Complete afterthought that it was from like twenty ten to
Speaker 11: like twenty twenty where running backs were being completely just
Speaker 11: thrown aside and it was like, well, the second we
Speaker 11: have to pay them, let's go get another cheap one
Speaker 11: because they can just replicate the value we need, whereas
Speaker 11: now we're seeing the difference. Like I mean, like the
Speaker 11: Colts last year, they were a pass first offense early
Speaker 11: in games. Like don't get me wrong, but the reason
Speaker 11: why we saw these point totals balloon so much in
Speaker 11: the second half of games is because they were feeding
Speaker 11: Jonathan Taylor and they were boasting one of the best
Speaker 11: rushing offenses that we had seen in recent history. And
Speaker 11: it's not like they had a quarterback also running the
Speaker 11: ball like Jones had some rushing touchdowns in there, but
Speaker 11: so much of it was Taylor being dominant right, Like
Speaker 11: they weren't really distributing the carries to anybody else like
Speaker 11: we've seen from other great rushing offenses like with Lamar
Speaker 11: Jackson and Baltimore, or like Jalen Hurts and Philly. So
Speaker 11: having that great running back can be the difference between
Speaker 11: you know, a great start and looking good or you know,
Speaker 11: being one of the worst teams in the league sometimes,
Speaker 11: especially if you're in the Colts like last year. So
Speaker 11: the Colts are recognized and that's why I think they're.
Speaker 2: Treating Taylor well.
Speaker 11: Hopefully he can continue staying healthy going forward because it
Speaker 11: is risky paying a running back a third time. But
Speaker 11: outliers exist, and Taylor is about to break all the
Speaker 11: franchise rushing records, so you can certainly call him an outlier.
Speaker 11: So keeping happy, keeping going, and hopefully his Colts offense
Speaker 11: can get back on track.
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Speaker 5: Zach Hicks joins us from Locked On Colts on the
Speaker 5: Anymore Automotive Group podline. Are you a believer in what
Speaker 5: they have personnel wise right now with this group or
Speaker 5: are you of the belief that the reason why we're
Speaker 5: here is because of that Sauce Gardner trade deadline deal
Speaker 5: of a year ago.
Speaker 11: I firmly believe in Carli or Sig Gordon looking at
Speaker 11: the first half of last season and saying we can
Speaker 11: get back to what we showed early last season. Like
Speaker 11: I do think when you look at how they were successful,
Speaker 11: how they were winning, and I mean even in some
Speaker 11: of their losses, and when they played better teams Like
Speaker 11: that Rams game we all agree probably should have been
Speaker 11: a win if it weren't for a couple of costly mistakes,
Speaker 11: Like they were playing really good football. I don't think
Speaker 11: that this is like Carly saying like, Okay, we need
Speaker 11: to bring back Ballard because we don't want to straddle
Speaker 11: a new GM without a first round pick. I think
Speaker 11: she does believe in what they showed early last season.
Speaker 11: It's just going to be on a very short leach
Speaker 11: because having the end of the season they had, even
Speaker 11: with you know, the quarterback issues, and we've already talked
Speaker 11: about how valuable quarterback is, you just can't have losing
Speaker 11: streaks like that, Like they really needed like one maybe
Speaker 11: two wins down the stretch to get in the playoffs,
Speaker 11: and they couldn't even muster that out with the guys
Speaker 11: that they had. So I like what she said today
Speaker 11: where it's like, look, the mantra this year is find
Speaker 11: a way.
Speaker 2: Things get tough.
Speaker 11: You lose games, but you lose players, but you got
Speaker 11: to find a way to get those wins and get
Speaker 11: into the playoffs. So I do think that like a
Speaker 11: big part of bringing back everything and believing in this
Speaker 11: year is buying that first half of last season. Now
Speaker 11: we'll see if it can materialize. They're really banking on
Speaker 11: a bunch of older players who are coming off some
Speaker 11: injury concerns, and that's certainly scary in the face of
Speaker 11: the NFL. But I do believe that a lot of
Speaker 11: this faith to run it back one more time is like, hey,
Speaker 11: what we were doing early last season was working. There
Speaker 11: was a lot of goods in that and basically when
Speaker 11: we started losing games, we didn't have our quarterbacks, so
Speaker 11: some of the turnover luck one against us, and like,
Speaker 11: let's see how real that first half was, and if
Speaker 11: they missed the playoffs again this year, then you'll have
Speaker 11: your answer. So I do think that was a firm
Speaker 11: belief in this unit, but the belief will run out
Speaker 11: if they missed the playoffs yet again. So yeah, I
Speaker 11: think Carley certainly believes in what they were doing, but
Speaker 11: it's going to be a bit of a shorter reach
Speaker 11: this year than what it was last year.
Speaker 5: So Zach, I'm on the other side of that. I
Speaker 5: think that their decision making was was really pared down
Speaker 5: and compromise because of that deal. And while I'm cool
Speaker 5: with the deal because you saw something that was being
Speaker 5: created in the first part of that season, and then
Speaker 5: obviously the injuries to significant players Daniel Jones certainly compromise
Speaker 5: the remainder of the season. I think if they were
Speaker 5: to have first round options after this past season, that maybe,
Speaker 5: to me, honestly, I think they would be going in
Speaker 5: a different direction. So I don't know. I think you
Speaker 5: kind of have to put on that face right now
Speaker 5: because you're soaking in it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: because you really didn't have leverage nor options to deal
Speaker 5: with to change things up, so you have to believe it.
Speaker 5: Hopefully it works out, but I think you have to,
Speaker 5: more than anything else, believe in this product the way
Speaker 5: that it is right now because really adjusting things. It
Speaker 5: was compromised after that trade deadline deal with no first rounders,
Speaker 5: and you really had nowhere else to go.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, I do agree to a certain there
Speaker 11: where it's like, once you make that move, you are
Speaker 11: showing that belief in the process there. I think that's
Speaker 11: what made it kind of more even more devastating in
Speaker 11: the second half of the year, when your starter goes
Speaker 11: down with the torn achilles, your backup was already injured
Speaker 11: in a flute in a freaky injury. Pre game, your
Speaker 11: third string quarterback was dealing with a bit.
Speaker 2: Of an injury. So you just made this huge, like.
Speaker 11: Franchise altering move for a young, former All Pro corner,
Speaker 11: and you traded two first round picks, expecting at least
Speaker 11: the first year of that to be in the playoffs.
Speaker 11: And you can't even manage the one more win down
Speaker 11: the stretch because you're down to a quarterback who's been
Speaker 11: retired for years to come out here and start games
Speaker 11: for you, because it was either him or hampered Riley
Speaker 11: Leonard or the seth again I think was on the
Speaker 11: roster at that point at quarterback, Like it wasn't going
Speaker 11: to be great down the stretch. So do I understand
Speaker 11: what you're saying where it's like they kind of made
Speaker 11: their own dead when they made that trade and you
Speaker 11: kind of have to commit to it this year. But
Speaker 11: part of me thinks, like you make that trade because
Speaker 11: you are so bought in that first happened last year,
Speaker 11: so to fall off of it so much because Philip
Speaker 11: Rivers couldn't win you a couple of games, or Jones
Speaker 11: couldn't win you a couple of games with a broken
Speaker 11: leg like, I don't know if they would have fallen
Speaker 11: that far off, but I totally see your opinion with that,
Speaker 11: where it's like, yeah, I mean they kind of made
Speaker 11: their bed with this.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the right answer was.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what, Zach, I don't go too over
Speaker 5: the top. And here's why, because I was down with it.
Speaker 5: I'm okay with the win now mentality because they've basically
Speaker 5: had a win never mentality and right like, the win
Speaker 5: now are running it back. And I say that about
Speaker 5: the Pacers because we're going to deal with that this year.
Speaker 5: There is a basis of results that we have seen
Speaker 5: that would I think define why you have Kevin Pritchard
Speaker 5: and Chad Muchannan wanting to run this core group back
Speaker 5: with the Pacers. But with the Colts it's not that
Speaker 5: way because you know, you go all in and then
Speaker 5: you have that jine and you're screwed for the remainder
Speaker 5: of the season. I get why you want to win
Speaker 5: right now because the results at that level it's been
Speaker 5: few and far between, and it's just kind of the
Speaker 5: same old, same old for the fans. So I don't
Speaker 5: go completely over the top on that. I just kind
Speaker 5: of think they're in a situation in which they created
Speaker 5: because they had belief and maybe it wasn't misguided because
Speaker 5: of the way the offense specifically was playing. But again,
Speaker 5: you didn't have the optionality there at all because of
Speaker 5: the lack of first round deals or I should say,
Speaker 5: first round selections that you had. Thus you're right here,
Speaker 5: But again I understood it at the time, and I
Speaker 5: still understand it right now. You're just kind of soak
Speaker 5: into the situation itself.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I will say, like, if you had the belief
Speaker 11: in Jones and the offense early last season, I don't
Speaker 11: think anything about the second half of the year lessens
Speaker 11: the belief in Jones outside of the fact that he's
Speaker 11: coming off the Achilles injury now, right, because it's not
Speaker 11: like he threw like twenty picks in like, you know,
Speaker 11: those games, and he was just the worst quarterback in
Speaker 11: the lead. He was hurt, you know, and even in
Speaker 11: like the Texans game for instance, like he was she
Speaker 11: had one of the better performances against the Texans defenses
Speaker 11: than any quarterback in the league last year. Now, it
Speaker 11: wasn't a great game, but nobody played well against Texans,
Speaker 11: so it was kind of it was kind of a
Speaker 11: weird situation for the Colts, and you know, as a fan,
Speaker 11: you kind of think about it in your brain. It's like,
Speaker 11: of course this would happened to the Colts, right, you
Speaker 11: make this big move, going all in, everything's going great,
Speaker 11: and then of course, like you could survive any other
Speaker 11: injury maybe except for the quarterback, right, and the quarterback
Speaker 11: goes down. So you know, if they're feeling good about
Speaker 11: the Jones Achilles injury, I mean, the thing is they
Speaker 11: have to feel good about it though, right, like you said,
Speaker 11: they made their bet. You have to feel good about it,
Speaker 11: Like even if he was not recovering, well, you put
Speaker 11: yourself in a situation where you had to feel.
Speaker 2: Good about it.
Speaker 11: So we'll see when the bullets starts flying this year,
Speaker 11: that'll be the ultimate test. But I do think like
Speaker 11: come the end of this season, I know a lot
Speaker 11: of people have said, Okay, Carler said Gordon didn't make
Speaker 11: him the last offseason, what's to say that she's going
Speaker 11: to after this year. I do think that it really
Speaker 11: is now or never for Ballad and psych in this year.
Speaker 11: I really think they need to win this year or
Speaker 11: they will make some changes, even without the first dround
Speaker 11: pick because you just don't have any excuses at that point.
Speaker 5: Zach Kicks of Lockdown Colts on the Anymore Automotive Group potline.
Speaker 5: Is it weird to you that there's still holes in
Speaker 5: this roster? And I think holes that everybody can see.
Speaker 5: But they sit on this pile of cash and they
Speaker 5: really haven't done. And I know the contractual of a
Speaker 5: lot of situations as to why maybe free agent players,
Speaker 5: you know, don't want to get up off the couch
Speaker 5: right now and start in training camp. But are you
Speaker 5: surprised that, for example, they haven't necessarily significantly addressed something
Speaker 5: like wide receiver to this point, considering how much money
Speaker 5: they have.
Speaker 11: Yeah, a wide receiver, I'm not terribly concerned about, because
Speaker 11: I do think you're in a situation, especially with Shane
Speaker 11: Stiken's like relationship with Keenan Allen for instance, like that
Speaker 11: goes back years. I think you're in a situation where
Speaker 11: you can see what some of these other guys have
Speaker 11: and then if it's just not good enough, then you
Speaker 11: kind of have like he and Allen, he doesn't want
Speaker 11: to sign it early in the training camp. He does
Speaker 11: not want to go through the full training camp at
Speaker 11: this point in his career, so I think that he's
Speaker 11: going to be on speed dial going forward. But I
Speaker 11: think it really comes to my mind with like edge
Speaker 11: right because even though the Chris Baalen them haven't one
Speaker 11: explicitly said that they were getting all their eggs in
Speaker 11: the basket for Trey Hendrickson, it was clear to.
Speaker 2: Everyone that that was who they were going for.
Speaker 11: They wanted Trey Hendrickson, they put so much into recruiting
Speaker 11: him here, and then if it weren't for Baltimore's like
Speaker 11: last ditch whatever they did with Crosby and Hendrickson, then
Speaker 11: Hendrickson maybe would be here right now. And I understand
Speaker 11: swinging big there, but when you don't hit on it,
Speaker 11: I don't know how the backup plan is just two
Speaker 11: day three rookies, you know, is like that's okay, Now
Speaker 11: we have our six edge rushers. And it's like you
Speaker 11: were kind of already acknowledging by going after Hendrickson that
Speaker 11: you needed a big push. And I know the free
Speaker 11: agent class wasn't as great at that point, but there.
Speaker 2: Were still guys out there. There's still guys out there now.
Speaker 11: I just I don't understand the having like just adding
Speaker 11: two Day three rookies and being like, we're good, and
Speaker 11: then Ballard always talking about like Kayden Curry they're super
Speaker 11: high on.
Speaker 2: I'm like, look, if you were super high on, you
Speaker 2: wouldn't have taken him in round six. You would have taken.
Speaker 11: Them earlier than that, So come on, like, you can't
Speaker 11: sell this when you were trying to go get Hendrickson.
Speaker 11: So I think that one's the toughest one for me,
Speaker 11: And that's kind of always been one of my complaints
Speaker 11: with Chris Ballad is just like he has such a
Speaker 11: belief in like the internal process and the guys they
Speaker 11: have here, but we don't have the results to back
Speaker 11: that up, you know.
Speaker 2: And you can even say the same thing about receiver.
Speaker 11: Right, like maybe you want to see a little bit
Speaker 11: of what dueling and Treadwell and Westbrooka Kina can do
Speaker 11: before signing in Allen, But these guys have been in
Speaker 11: the league for long enough to we kind of know
Speaker 11: what they are. Like, They're not going to be superstar
Speaker 11: like starting receivers, right, so why not make a move earlier?
Speaker 11: So yeah, I understand the concerns and the complaints with
Speaker 11: that stuff. Edge Rusher is just the one I can't
Speaker 11: wrap my head around because like, if you really were
Speaker 11: going for Hendrickson, how how can the not getting him
Speaker 11: solution just be well, everyone moves up one and now
Speaker 11: we add these two rookies into the mix.
Speaker 5: Like that such an all or nothing philosophy right there,
Speaker 5: I would see it really is.
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah it was.
Speaker 11: And Hendrickson signed later in a free agency, right so
Speaker 11: I understand that it puts you a little bit of buying,
Speaker 11: like some of the other top edge rushers weren't still
Speaker 11: available at that point, but there were still other guys
Speaker 11: out there. And that's why I was so against drafting
Speaker 11: two edge rushers. I was like, because then you're going
Speaker 11: to want to keep both of them. And now you're
Speaker 11: up to six edge rushers on the team, and typically
Speaker 11: you keep six, you don't keep seven, So where are
Speaker 11: you adding another edge ruster.
Speaker 2: It's just a weird spot.
Speaker 11: And now so much of it is like we need
Speaker 11: Jalen Tumloau, who barely played last year, to take.
Speaker 2: A big step. We need arden Key, who.
Speaker 11: Has been, you know, a fine rotational guy for nine years,
Speaker 11: to be something he's never been.
Speaker 2: You know, it's a big it's a big ask of
Speaker 2: these guys. So we'll see if it pays off.
Speaker 11: But if I have pessimism anywhere, certainly they aren't that
Speaker 11: other edge rusher position because I mean they kind of
Speaker 11: said what they thought about it when they went for Hendredston.
Speaker 5: It's almost like Zach, that they believe in the secondary
Speaker 5: is so no pun intended here locked down that they
Speaker 5: can afford maybe not to have the maybe have what
Speaker 5: their normal pass rush is. And philosophically speaking, in the
Speaker 5: NFL or really any forms of football, it's almost like,
Speaker 5: and I've described in this fashion best ackwards defensively, you know,
Speaker 5: when you're looking for the playmaking ability and you're stacked
Speaker 5: in the secondary, but your faulty or you have the
Speaker 5: huge question marks upfront off the edge, it is a
Speaker 5: backwards scenario compared to what you normally know. Do you
Speaker 5: believe at all in that? And it kind of seems
Speaker 5: like that that's just again much like this team where
Speaker 5: they are with it because they were forced into this position.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I do think it is a common debate we
Speaker 11: see amongst a lot of football minds, like what is
Speaker 11: more valuable coverage or pass rush?
Speaker 2: And can you even separate the two? Right?
Speaker 11: Because they have this symbiotic relationship where they have to
Speaker 11: work off each other. So I understand where people come
Speaker 11: with that, and I'm not exactly sure where I fall.
Speaker 11: Like I think gun in my head, I'd prefer to
Speaker 11: have the better pass rush than coverage because so much
Speaker 11: is built up front.
Speaker 2: But I think you can find.
Speaker 11: Success by having great coverage and having a pass rush
Speaker 11: by committee, right, Like, if you have such great coverage
Speaker 11: corners and secondary, you can blick a little bit more
Speaker 11: and get the ball out of quarterback's hands and maybe
Speaker 11: that can be your mode to success.
Speaker 2: But I do agree with you where it's like it.
Speaker 11: Does feel a little backwards, especially when the secondary that
Speaker 11: we're banking on, and look, I want this secondary to
Speaker 11: be awesome, I think on paper, Like, if you're just
Speaker 11: looking at it on paper, it can be the best
Speaker 11: secondary of the Colts have had in a long long time.
Speaker 2: But let's be real about it. Saust Gardner missed half
Speaker 2: of last.
Speaker 11: Season with an injury, and he's probably the one we
Speaker 11: feel best about injury wise, right because Dustin Wally missed
Speaker 11: the entirety of last season with an injury and Moody
Speaker 11: Ward is coming off I mean a really rough season
Speaker 11: with the concussions and who knows what his effectiveness is
Speaker 11: going to be. You could even go to the fourth
Speaker 11: corner Cam Taylor Britt missed the last half of last
Speaker 11: year with lisz Frank injury, you know, and all these
Speaker 11: guys are expected to, you know, feel pretty big roles
Speaker 11: or come in and start, and you're the situation where
Speaker 11: they were last year where it's like you feel great
Speaker 11: about corner, but then once the injuries piled up, Xavi
Speaker 11: and Howard was starting games for you, and then you
Speaker 11: don't feel good about corner with the questions you had
Speaker 11: on the defensive line already. So I'm not sure there's
Speaker 11: ever a great solution to combating injuries, right because you
Speaker 11: can't build a roster of fifty three starters.
Speaker 2: It's just not feasible in this league.
Speaker 11: But I do think that putting all your eggs in
Speaker 11: the secondary basket's going to carry your defense when you
Speaker 11: have major questions about injuries, and heck, we haven't.
Speaker 2: Even talked about like Buckner's.
Speaker 11: Injury up front and other injuries like that, Like it's concerning.
Speaker 5: I'd have to keep you on here for a couple
Speaker 5: of hours. I think to address everything, you know, what
Speaker 5: I mean, right right.
Speaker 11: If they could stay healthy this year, they can be
Speaker 11: a really good team. But the injury questions are such
Speaker 11: a big looming cloud right now. That is it's so concerning.
Speaker 5: Before I'll let you go, do you recollect any point
Speaker 5: in time when the philosophy that we're talking about right
Speaker 5: here that they have to go with with the secondary,
Speaker 5: you know, being the overriding playmaking factor over the edge
Speaker 5: rushing up front, where that worked out? Does anything come
Speaker 5: to mind to you?
Speaker 11: I would say the Vikings defense the last few years
Speaker 11: has been a little bit more like resource heavy into
Speaker 11: secondary and more so than like that, like they've never
Speaker 11: had like a huge, great pass rusher like they had Grenard.
Speaker 11: I think the last couple of years is pretty good,
Speaker 11: but they didn't have like that dominant force. They let
Speaker 11: the Neil Hunter walk and they were putting more resource
Speaker 11: in the secondary. But he's chaotic with Howie Blitz is
Speaker 11: there right, he brings six man rushes all the time,
Speaker 11: Ryan forres. So, like, I think you can find success
Speaker 11: that way. It's just the easier mode. The success obviously
Speaker 11: is having those studs up front, so it's tougher. But
Speaker 11: I think there is a way it's just not the
Speaker 11: most repeatable way.
Speaker 5: All right, lockdown Colts. You guys are constantly churning out
Speaker 5: the content for everybody. Tell the folks out there about it.
Speaker 11: Yeah, Locked On Colts our daily show that Jake Arthur
Speaker 11: and I host. It's always great having Jake as the
Speaker 11: co host there because he's at practice every day giving
Speaker 11: us all the infos. So if you guys want a
Speaker 11: daily show that gives you breakdowns on every single practice again,
Speaker 11: for better or for worse, you know, you can learn
Speaker 11: a little bit from practice, Maybe not as much as
Speaker 11: we play it.
Speaker 2: Up, but it is good to hear the information there
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 11: So Jake Gibbs is there and we're actually about to
Speaker 11: record right after we jump off here, so that'll be
Speaker 11: up a little after five today.
Speaker 5: Well done, pal. We'll do this again sometime and when
Speaker 5: you're in and around Indy, you'll have to come out
Speaker 5: to a live show and I'll get you all hammer
Speaker 5: locked while you're talking too. That'll be even better. All right,
Speaker 5: I love it, man, I appreciate you.
Speaker 8: Zach.
Speaker 5: Thanks Palin, Zach cakes right there, I've Locked On Colts.
Speaker 5: He was a little skeptical about answering that one. I think,
Speaker 5: what do you think? The bad influence in me? Always
Speaker 5: it always prevails. Though I feel really confident my bad
Speaker 5: influence technique will prevail always.
Speaker 4: It always does. It always comes out eventually.
Speaker 5: It always does. Quick Break will come Back. Debbie Andtonelly
Speaker 5: Fever television analyst, The Fever and the Fire coming on
Speaker 5: platter Walk at tonight. Debbie talks with us next. First
Speaker 5: things first though, a weather update, a Fox fifty.
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Speaker 5: Adam Rittenberg of ESPN Top of the Hour Big ten
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Speaker 5: Moore Automotive Group Hotlines staked out in Portland, Oregon, rating
Speaker 5: for the Fever and the Fire. Later on tonight ten
Speaker 5: o'clock is that Tip Time along with Pat Moylan. Debbie Antonelli,
Speaker 5: one of my favorites joins us now, Debbie, thank you
Speaker 5: for the time. How are you.
Speaker 2: Hey man?
Speaker 12: Listen, thanks for inviting me back. I'm so glad to
Speaker 12: be here, and thank you for your nice words.
Speaker 5: I love to see I'm the biggest basketball fan probably
Speaker 5: outside of yourself, that you're going to find out here.
Speaker 5: And I love I love how you break down the game.
Speaker 5: And I've been really interested to hear what you thought
Speaker 5: about Tuesday night because even though you've got to see
Speaker 5: Attle team that's not very good and record wise not
Speaker 5: good at all, it looked like a situation they had
Speaker 5: a red hot player, the fever got up big and
Speaker 5: saw their lead get paired into and then came back
Speaker 5: in one. And you had again Noah Leah Boston for
Speaker 5: significant portions of the game. But both your star players
Speaker 5: as well, and Caitlin Clark and Kelsey Mitchell were outstanding.
Speaker 5: Was that this team, in your estimation, hitting their stride
Speaker 5: right now?
Speaker 6: What a character building moment once again inside the.
Speaker 12: Game, you know, to face some adversity and to bounce back.
Speaker 6: It is such an entertaining and exciting backcourt to watch.
Speaker 12: You just don't know what they're going to.
Speaker 2: Do except score on everybody.
Speaker 6: I mean, we are so talented on the offensive end,
Speaker 6: and Stephanie White will always start with defense, which most
Speaker 6: coaches do. But yes, I do think we are hitting
Speaker 6: our stride. I think we have come together. There's no
Speaker 6: question there's chemistry. They're connected, and they're playing better on
Speaker 6: the defensive end.
Speaker 5: Defensive end, fouling too much, and turnovers. Those are the
Speaker 5: three main issues so far this season. From your vantage point,
Speaker 5: are they improving on those factors?
Speaker 6: You know, we've been trying to track the number of
Speaker 6: quarters that they keep the other team off the free
Speaker 6: throw line.
Speaker 12: It is definitely a factor and we are winning that category.
Speaker 6: And here's part of the reason why we are doing
Speaker 6: a better job of staying between our player and the basket.
Speaker 12: We are guarding the ball better, not.
Speaker 6: Just the action, and those are important defensive concepts. On
Speaker 6: the other side, our offense puts so much pressure on
Speaker 6: the other team's defense because of the pace that we
Speaker 6: play with. We are constantly putting you in at a
Speaker 6: deficit defensively because we do these habits over and over, John,
Speaker 6: We run the floor hard, we run to the deep
Speaker 6: corner that flattens out the defense. It opens up the
Speaker 6: top of the floor. And when you open up the
Speaker 6: top of the floor in the middle third, that's when
Speaker 6: Caitlin Kelsey and Aliyah are absolutely going to crucify you
Speaker 6: in those spots on the floor because they can score.
Speaker 6: They will always make the defense wrong in those situations.
Speaker 5: W Antonelli got the Fever and the fire later on tonight,
Speaker 5: she and Pat Boyl and on Channel thirteen WTHR. I
Speaker 5: believe coming up later on tonight as well, this isn't
Speaker 5: an interesting dynamic because you're in Portland. But I can't
Speaker 5: help myself, and this is just a fan in me.
Speaker 5: You kind of look ahead a little bit if you're
Speaker 5: the fan coming up on Sunday in Minnesota against the
Speaker 5: Links at one o'clock. Obviously this team is not going
Speaker 5: to overlook it. But what do you see in the
Speaker 5: fire that the Fever really have to try to stamp out,
Speaker 5: so to speak? Coming up later on tonight in Portland, Well,
Speaker 5: you're right, I.
Speaker 6: Mean, we haven't played Minnesota yet, and you don't want
Speaker 6: to look ahead, and we do have three games to
Speaker 6: play with Minnesota, which are going to be incredible benchmarks.
Speaker 12: For this team. But I don't think this is a
Speaker 12: group that's going to be sleeping on anybody.
Speaker 6: Certainly not every REP. In the way they attack reps
Speaker 6: in practice yesterday.
Speaker 12: The way that they prepared to shoot around today, I
Speaker 12: think there's any sleeping on Portland at all.
Speaker 6: In Portland presents some different challenges.
Speaker 2: Now. Remember we came out.
Speaker 12: Here earlier in the year at end of May and
Speaker 12: got our doors blown off. It's the worst game of
Speaker 12: the season, and I think the.
Speaker 6: Fever remember that, and you just don't know what little
Speaker 6: pieces of what happened in that previous event and game
Speaker 6: carry over to coming back this.
Speaker 12: Time and really wanted to show what you can do
Speaker 12: here in Portland. So I think they're ready.
Speaker 5: Catlin Clark looks like she just simply put feels better
Speaker 5: right now? Is that the case? You see that too? Joy?
Speaker 12: I think I see the joy returning to her game.
Speaker 6: I mean, I see her feeling very confident and very comfortable,
Speaker 6: and no situation on the floor seems to bother her.
Speaker 12: She's able to handle all of it.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, and you know what she also has to
Speaker 5: And even if you block it out, there's all this
Speaker 5: other stuff and she is all ball And I have
Speaker 5: the ultimate respect with her about that. She just wants
Speaker 5: to play and play hoop and that's that's it. But
Speaker 5: all this other stuff has a tendency to close in
Speaker 5: on you. But it's incredible how she can block it
Speaker 5: all out and kind of maintain just that focus, because really,
Speaker 5: the scrutiny on her on so many levels is so
Speaker 5: unlike what a lot of athletes see.
Speaker 6: It's an incredible spotlight and it's not one that she
Speaker 6: has necessarily asked for, but she certainly has handled. I
Speaker 6: think I've said this to you before, and I know
Speaker 6: I've said it in many places. I've never heard her
Speaker 6: make a mistake in a press conference. I've never heard
Speaker 6: her fall for the bait. I'd never heard her not
Speaker 6: take the high road. She constantly understands the role model
Speaker 6: that she has become. She embraces that, and she delivers.
Speaker 6: And part of what happens when you have all of
Speaker 6: that other outside noise, you come together with your team
Speaker 6: and you go to practice, and you go and shoot around,
Speaker 6: and you do the repetition and the rhythm and the
Speaker 6: reps and the habits, and then you forget all about
Speaker 6: that for that time that you're on the floor.
Speaker 12: That's the magic and that's the best time. And it's
Speaker 12: amazing that she can.
Speaker 6: Not let any of that other stuff be a distraction
Speaker 6: while she balls out like one of the top scorers
Speaker 6: in the league.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: And what's great about it the way they are right
Speaker 5: now and on a wednes streak and the way they
Speaker 5: performed on Tuesday, is that a lot of this other
Speaker 5: crap that you have to hear, you have to read,
Speaker 5: you have to deal with, has a tendency to go
Speaker 5: away when you win, and a lot of that scrutiny,
Speaker 5: a lot of that criticism fades when you win. That's
Speaker 5: almost like this team, these players that coach showing everybody, hey,
Speaker 5: this is what we're about, and then all that other
Speaker 5: stuff again has that tendency to fade away.
Speaker 6: Sharpens, the character sharpens, the habits, puts all of it
Speaker 6: together for forty minutes on the floor. I mean, this
Speaker 6: is a mature group. So you know, maybe there were
Speaker 6: people talking about them in the conversation earlier in the
Speaker 6: year about how good they were, but certainly now they
Speaker 6: had everyone's attention. They've won five in a row, They've
Speaker 6: already set a bunch of offensive records. You know, historically,
Speaker 6: we're on pace to be the highest scoring team ever.
Speaker 6: Kelsey and Caitlin are becoming unguardable, and Caitlin and Kelsey
Speaker 6: are so good together. They're the highest scoring combo in
Speaker 6: the backcourt in the league, and Kelsey and Alia are
Speaker 6: like the second highest scoring combo in the league. So
Speaker 6: we've got a lot of offensive firepower. We should continue
Speaker 6: to concentrate on the defense, keep the distraction and the
Speaker 6: noise away, and just keep playing connected like they've played
Speaker 6: so far, but fish very together.
Speaker 5: There is wntdelli with us on the Andy More Automotive
Speaker 5: Group plotline with the fever not so much. There's no
Speaker 5: expectation there. But how often in the past in covering
Speaker 5: the WNBA have you seen a significant impact made for
Speaker 5: the WNBA trade deadline.
Speaker 6: I think we've had some in the past, and I
Speaker 6: have to think about what. I don't know if we'll
Speaker 6: have a landslide change this year. It could happen depending
Speaker 6: on Kelsey Plumb. I think there's a lot of conversation
Speaker 6: around what's happening with the Sparks. I don't have any
Speaker 6: insider information on any of that, so I don't know.
Speaker 6: But if she does land with a contender that will
Speaker 6: be a big deal.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just it's kind of interesting. I could not
Speaker 5: recollect anything that Again, I'm looking at it from an
Speaker 5: impactful angle here that I could remember that that took place.
Speaker 5: But as we embark upon that time right now, it
Speaker 5: is kind of interesting to note that that's where we
Speaker 5: are and there's going to be a lot of teams
Speaker 5: scrambling to think that they can get where they ultimately
Speaker 5: believe they can get at they had a player of
Speaker 5: that level.
Speaker 6: You know, fifteen teams now and only eight spots. So
Speaker 6: while we're expanding, we haven't changed the number of teams
Speaker 6: in the playoffs. So yeah, it's a competitive rate, it is.
Speaker 13: You know, the.
Speaker 5: Product is good.
Speaker 12: I mean, we've talked about this before.
Speaker 6: You can't sleep on any team in this league, even Connecticut,
Speaker 6: who is right.
Speaker 12: Now at the bottom with Seattle.
Speaker 6: Both of those teams are capable in matchups that they
Speaker 6: can win, and you could see what Seattle has done.
Speaker 6: They're a tough matchup for us because their size upfront.
Speaker 5: Hi, Debbie, I'm jerious. You mentioned this before the backcourt
Speaker 5: with Mitchell and Clark, and for those of us out
Speaker 5: there the fans, it it'd be so easy. You have
Speaker 5: these dynamic players, the dynamic scores, and everything is so easy.
Speaker 5: What is it like dealing with that, because it has
Speaker 5: to be to me, easier said than done to get
Speaker 5: the most out of again, two dynamic players in the
Speaker 5: backcourt that the Fever have like that.
Speaker 6: See, that's such a great question because they neither one
Speaker 6: of them actually needs a screen to be able to score.
Speaker 6: I think they prefer space. But because of the way
Speaker 6: Feaver run stuff, they're always going to be involved in
Speaker 6: moving off the ball and coming off of screens and
Speaker 6: all kinds of screening activity, whether it's pin downs that
Speaker 6: are down the lane line or wide pin downs, which
Speaker 6: Kelsey Mitchell is like on a two man naked side.
Speaker 6: As a pro, it's definitely a pro. Nobody can stop
Speaker 6: her going left when she's coming off that Alyssa Boston
Speaker 6: Elliot Boston, excuse me, pinned down. But here's the part
Speaker 6: of the game that people don't realize it's so valuable
Speaker 6: is when Lexi Hall runs to the corner, Cunningham runs
Speaker 6: hard to the corner, and Monique Billings runs hard to
Speaker 6: the rim.
Speaker 12: That's the space that I'm talking about. It seems like
Speaker 12: It's a simple concept, but it's so.
Speaker 6: Valuable for allowing all the other actions to happen. So
Speaker 6: while you're watching Caitlin and you're watching Kelsey, and it's
Speaker 6: hard to take your eyes off of either one of
Speaker 6: them because they are so dynamic and they have the
Speaker 6: counters and the solutions to whatever you provide defensively, but
Speaker 6: you cannot discount all the other things, in all the
Speaker 6: other ways and habits that Stephanie White is instilled in
Speaker 6: this team to be able to score at the pace
Speaker 6: that we're scoring.
Speaker 5: I will tell you this too, because the eyes are
Speaker 5: constantly focused on Caitlin Clark with the ball, but I
Speaker 5: have noticed this. Kelsey Mitchell is non stop movement without
Speaker 5: the ball. I don't know if this is the case,
Speaker 5: but that seems to me. She is so talented, but
Speaker 5: I think that is what really expedites to the highest
Speaker 5: level of talent, because she has endless motion offensively out there.
Speaker 6: And see when you take her down the right side
Speaker 6: of the floor and Aliah Boston comes with that pin
Speaker 6: down and most defenses try to get on top of Kelsey,
Speaker 6: so they don't want her to cut off the screen
Speaker 6: because she's going.
Speaker 12: To curl that and score.
Speaker 6: But when you get on top of it, she's so fast.
Speaker 6: That's why we get a lot of those back door cuts,
Speaker 6: right the ninety degree cut on the baseline. But if
Speaker 6: you don't play her square, she's going to come off
Speaker 6: that and if she curls, she's going to get to
Speaker 6: the nail and she's going to.
Speaker 12: Hit a fifteen footer or she's going to hit Boston
Speaker 12: on the roll. We could run that.
Speaker 6: Play all game and no one would be able to
Speaker 6: stop it. Just clear it out and run that and
Speaker 6: Kelsey could get fifty. But that's not what the Fever
Speaker 6: need to do to be able to win a championship.
Speaker 6: And that's the way we should be talking about it.
Speaker 6: We should be talking about a championship now. We should
Speaker 6: be talking about Kelsey Mitchell and Caitlin Clark in the
Speaker 6: conversation for MVP.
Speaker 5: It's a no doubt about that. Wi Antonelli joining us again.
Speaker 5: She and Pat Boyling have the call coming up later
Speaker 5: on tonight. I'm assuming nine point thirty pm is going
Speaker 5: to be the pre game and ten o'clock that tip
Speaker 5: time from the Modus Center in Portland, Oregon, and then
Speaker 5: Minnesota coming up on the schedule on Sunday afternoon, which
Speaker 5: should be fun. Hey, thank you very much for taking
Speaker 5: the time out today for this breakdown. I appreciate that.
Speaker 5: We'll catch back up when you guys get back home too.
Speaker 6: Let's do it and let's have a Fever takeover. Let
Speaker 6: us come in there and.
Speaker 5: Take over for I would love it. I'd love to
Speaker 5: have anybody taking any fever man coming on in. Bring
Speaker 5: it on in. Yeah, make sure you tell everybody down
Speaker 5: there that, okay.
Speaker 12: Okay, I'll tell them for sure.
Speaker 5: Thanks, Debbie, DeBie ed Todell is pretty awesome. Fever Takeover
Speaker 5: j MV Takeover. Uh, I didn't want to say it
Speaker 5: as hard as hell to get anybody from the fever
Speaker 5: on this show. You know, the last time I had
Speaker 5: somebody from the fever on this show, player, it was
Speaker 5: Lexi Hall. She was in treatment and I believe one
Speaker 5: of the one of the I don't know what, how
Speaker 5: would you explain this, One of the the guys that
Speaker 5: the people in this case that were working her out
Speaker 5: in treatment heard me shout her out and I think
Speaker 5: handed to the phone. Seriously, that's the last and it
Speaker 5: was like two or three years ago. She was awesome too,
Speaker 5: just like right there on the spot. She was literally
Speaker 5: in treatment, and you know, one of the one of
Speaker 5: the physicians, orthopedic folks there handed to the phone. So
Speaker 5: I'm ready willing and able to do a little bit
Speaker 5: of a takeover right here. DeBie Antonelli is always awesome.
Speaker 5: We appreciate that State Fair Passes. Coming up before the
Speaker 5: end of the show, Adam Rittenberg the Big Tin Breakdown.
Speaker 5: There's no doubt that Kurt Signetti was awesome yesterday. But
Speaker 5: the rest of the Big ten and especially the change
Speaker 5: of landscape with coaches, whether it's East Lansing and Arbor
Speaker 5: or Happy Valley. We'll go over that and more with
Speaker 5: Adam coming up at the top of the hour. This
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Speaker 12: Oh wife, No matter how beauty is our affectionate points
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Speaker 5: Today's thatch kicks looked on sports w Antonelle Fever Television
Speaker 5: analysts Fever in the far right.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 5: Later on tonight, ninet thirty is Tidrow with the pregame
Speaker 5: coverage ten o'clock. Is that tiptime Modus Center in Portland?
Speaker 5: They get the link of Minnesota coming up on Sunday
Speaker 5: afternoon one, What is the weather update? Is my weekend
Speaker 5: of sunshine and poolside going to be compromised by crappy weather?
Speaker 5: What do we have here? Not just the moment, but
Speaker 5: for the weekend.
Speaker 3: I know I was planning on going to colts camp tomorrow, John,
Speaker 3: and I think that's in jeopardy of being moved inside.
Speaker 5: We cannot have Listen, there's not much summer remaining. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and really, for a lot of people out there, summer
Speaker 5: has already concluded. Given the fact school ridiculously enough starts
Speaker 5: in late July, Where the hell are we in this world?
Speaker 5: When school starts in late July?
Speaker 4: That nuts?
Speaker 5: It's stupid as hell. Every year it's earlier. Look how
Speaker 5: well rounded an individual I am at the age of
Speaker 5: fifty six and a half, and I thought we started
Speaker 5: school around August the twentieth every year, Look that was early.
Speaker 5: You know what? This is way early. I would have
Speaker 5: simple put refuse to start No way, late July does
Speaker 5: look like I would have refused to start school.
Speaker 3: I'm not going sixteen year old jov gets to school
Speaker 3: starts and listen July thirty.
Speaker 5: First, if you're out there and you believe you need
Speaker 5: a two week fall break, you don't. You don't need it.
Speaker 5: You do not need it. In fact, some of you
Speaker 5: get a two week spring break. You don't need that either,
Speaker 5: because it's weird. You have spring break, right, two week
Speaker 5: spring break, and then you come back and you're back
Speaker 5: literally about a month, and then school's over.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just stick it out right.
Speaker 5: Educators of Indiana. You guys need me. You guys need
Speaker 5: me on that wall. Everybody always talks about I'm common sense,
Speaker 5: and I'm common sense this and that. You're not common
Speaker 5: sense anything. I'm common sense. Kids need their summer. Stop
Speaker 5: jacking with it. That should be hard. You don't need
Speaker 5: two weeks in the fall. You don't need two weeks
Speaker 5: in the spring. You can keep Christmas break the way
Speaker 5: that it is. Don't need all that crap. It's a
Speaker 5: world coming to I'm assuming is it like that out
Speaker 5: of the state of Indiana. Are we just led by
Speaker 5: numb nuts?
Speaker 4: No, I think it's happening.
Speaker 5: Assuming we're led by numb nuts. You know me are
Speaker 5: all over I said this earlier. They're all over my
Speaker 5: ex account. No wonder nothing can get done because of
Speaker 5: all the people you vote in are all over X
Speaker 5: like their thirteen year old kids. Jeez, yeah, no wonder
Speaker 5: you can't work. I'm on ARAM. Listen, I'm mad. Look
Speaker 5: at this person's doing well, tattle tailing and stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 5: can you not be real? Dudes? Can you seriously? I'm
Speaker 5: gonna tell you I'm gonna vote. If I'm gonna vote
Speaker 5: for real dudes, I'm not voting for any of these
Speaker 5: whimps jays? And again, how is X? How is it
Speaker 5: for me when all these clowns are just rotten all
Speaker 5: over it? You know where that can be for me?
Speaker 4: You got to switch over to the following tab.
Speaker 5: But even then john following tab, there's a for you tab.
Speaker 4: There's a following tab.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but even then the following tabs sometimes some stuff
Speaker 3: that you don't want infiltrates following.
Speaker 5: How do I get the for you? Show you? All right,
Speaker 5: I'm seeing now select topics you don't want to see,
Speaker 5: so I could take you. I can do that. I
Speaker 5: can do that. I can just take politics out of it. Look,
Speaker 5: I just saw that right there, all right, the following
Speaker 5: topics here? What would you think that I would want
Speaker 5: to take out Are you ready? Politics, sports, business and finance,
Speaker 5: science and technology, entertainment and arts, artificial intelligence, gaming, crypto videos.
Speaker 3: I think everything at the entertainment in the sports you
Speaker 3: would take out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so. And see, I don't like the
Speaker 5: videos that I constantly see of dudes fighting. I don't
Speaker 5: like the fighting videos. I don't need to see that.
Speaker 5: Back then, when you had to fight, it just you
Speaker 5: had to fight and then it was over, you know,
Speaker 5: on video forever. Yeah, I think sports. I'm going to
Speaker 5: click all these over and see if I can feel better.
Speaker 5: Snooze topics is what they're called.
Speaker 1: Right here.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna snooze on everything I need to snooze, Tammy.
Speaker 5: I can go to three or four home games and
Speaker 5: sit in the two hundred level for thirty five dollars
Speaker 5: a month. Of course you have parking and other stuff,
Speaker 5: but I'd rather buy on the secondary market three to
Speaker 5: four games at ten dollars apiece. Very common price for
Speaker 5: weekday games, even when things are good. Jeremiah said, I
Speaker 5: ain't paying eight dollars for coffee from Starbucks. I'm paying
Speaker 5: six dollars for it from seven brew. I go upstairs.
Speaker 5: I blank you not, and I only drink I want
Speaker 5: the most harsh black coffee possible. I'm sad that we
Speaker 5: have a nice machine upstairs. I'm sad that it's not
Speaker 5: an old school like mister coffee, worn out pot. I want.
Speaker 5: I want it as harsh as pot because I'm just
Speaker 5: looking for the buzz I want.
Speaker 12: You.
Speaker 5: Guys are always saying, how are you so energetic? Like
Speaker 5: I have a process where I keep a level of
Speaker 5: energy and black coffee I want it as close to
Speaker 5: like anybody else would say, There's zero way I'm ever
Speaker 5: taking a drink of that that looks awful. That's what
Speaker 5: I want. I'm not paying eight dollars eight dollars for
Speaker 5: a cup of coffee. I think it's more than that too, right,
Speaker 5: six dollars at seven ru huh. JMV. I promise you
Speaker 5: the for you is not thank you. And I saw
Speaker 5: this new tab in here that I can utilize though,
Speaker 5: I feel better about that. JMV. Brad from the GOADI here,
Speaker 5: I was just jamming out to Millie Vanilli. I hope
Speaker 5: you're doing well. Thank you, Brad girl, you know what's true.
Speaker 5: Oo ooh and back in the day, too. Remember they
Speaker 5: wanted Grammy. It was taken away because they were lip syncing.
Speaker 5: I just want to hear good songs and good solid music.
Speaker 5: It was still good solid music even if the two
Speaker 5: dudes Robin fab were lip syncing. Give me a break.
Speaker 5: Still enjoyed it all right, quick break will come back.
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Speaker 5: Jim McCann Southern California mentions this Huntington Beach City Elementary
Speaker 5: School District that's HBCSD starts on September. The first well done.
Speaker 5: Southern California. Huntington Beach Union High School District hbu HSD
Speaker 5: starts on September the second. It's more like it this
Speaker 5: end of July. Bull crap around here?
Speaker 1: What do we do?
Speaker 5: Sina Grove goes back on Wednesday. Hey, by the way, Hey,
Speaker 5: shout out if you're running down on the south side.
Speaker 5: The Kopesky car wash on US thirty one has one
Speaker 5: Laney Loo working there today, last couple of work days
Speaker 5: before school starts again. Lane shout out the lane. And
Speaker 5: I know this to be true because I had to
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Speaker 5: many people are getting their car washed today, considering that
Speaker 5: there is rain on the endbound here? Do we know
Speaker 5: significant rain storms? All that cramp?
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not the biggest car washer. I feel
Speaker 4: like I go like once a year. John's I'm probably
Speaker 4: the wrong person to ask.
Speaker 5: It was a point in time when I haven't been
Speaker 5: in a minute, but I kind of got addicted to it,
Speaker 5: addicted to the car wash. I don't know why. It
Speaker 5: was weird when you went early that you get that smell,
Speaker 5: like a really incredibly fresh smell. And there are so
Speaker 5: many levels now you can go this level, on that level,
Speaker 5: nineteen different levels of car wash.
Speaker 4: I just do the normal one.
Speaker 5: Uh much much like me, I always like to give
Speaker 5: my vehicle a complete undercarriage cleaning, do you Because I
Speaker 5: know how that makes me feel. I can't imagine how
Speaker 5: it makes my vehicle feel.
Speaker 3: I wonder what our next guess Adams thinking about this conversation.
Speaker 5: Find out on the Andy Moore Automotive grew potline he
Speaker 5: in Chicago had to deal with Kurt Signetti yesterday, who
Speaker 5: was much more entertaining than I on the Andy Moore
Speaker 5: Automotive Group plotline. It is Adam Rittenberg of ESPN on
Speaker 5: ESPN dot com. Uh, the holding of court of the
Speaker 5: defending national champion Indiana Hoosiers, their head coach, was somewhat
Speaker 5: interesting yesterday, was it not?
Speaker 10: It was?
Speaker 9: And you you kind of come to expect that from
Speaker 9: saying I had a chance to visit with him early
Speaker 9: in the day and kind of said, hey, what do
Speaker 9: you got for us this time? Because we all remember
Speaker 9: his performance a couple of years ago, Uh, you know,
Speaker 9: when they hadn't done anything, and you know, one of
Speaker 9: many called shots that he's.
Speaker 10: Had in Indiana, and then you know.
Speaker 9: Certainly last year planning up the disrespect that they had
Speaker 9: after making the playoff but not advancing and using that,
Speaker 9: and so you know, it was it was a certainly
Speaker 9: a fun performance to hear him throughout the day, and
Speaker 9: the shots that he took at the SEC were absolute gold.
Speaker 9: So a fun, a fun day.
Speaker 10: Indeed, as they wrapped up Big Ten meeting, when's.
Speaker 5: The last time we've seen a coach call their shot
Speaker 5: and then cash in with the shots that they called
Speaker 5: as much as he has, well.
Speaker 9: It's hard to think of someone at a school with
Speaker 9: Indiana's history, you know, doing it like like he has,
Speaker 9: or even moderately, you know, someone your coaches come in
Speaker 9: and talk about expectations and standards, the things that they
Speaker 9: want to do and accomplish.
Speaker 10: But you know, I can't think of someone who was
Speaker 10: able to back it up the way that that Sigg has.
Speaker 9: At Indiana, you know, from the moment he arrived there
Speaker 9: to you know, the first first interview at the Big
Speaker 9: Ten Championship game on the day that he was announced
Speaker 9: to the basketball court, to to really everything else. And
Speaker 9: you know, I think that confidence permeates throughout the program.
Speaker 9: And obviously you have to work and you have to
Speaker 9: you know, do the types of things that are necessary.
Speaker 10: And he outlines them. We all have heard.
Speaker 9: Those phrases from him before to actually do the winning.
Speaker 9: But if you're not confident in yourself, you're probably not
Speaker 9: going to accomplish great things.
Speaker 10: And that's not something he lacked you.
Speaker 5: Know, Ata Brittenberger esp dot ESPN dot com joins us.
Speaker 5: I say this all the time because people always bring up, well,
Speaker 5: you know, look at the money or look at the
Speaker 5: rate of the season schedule, And what impresses me the
Speaker 5: most even beyond well, I shouldn't say this, not beyond
Speaker 5: a national title, but what impresses me the most about
Speaker 5: what he has accomplished is the way that he puts
Speaker 5: together a roster. Having the the finances, the resources are
Speaker 5: not but the way you put it together and have
Speaker 5: it work at that place, the way that it has
Speaker 5: in the past two years, is to me still the
Speaker 5: most amazing aspect of all this.
Speaker 9: Absolutely, And you know, I think the word that comes
Speaker 9: to mind, and people have said this to me about saying,
Speaker 9: is efficiency. And he's someone who has a very clear
Speaker 9: vision for every element of the program, including roster building,
Speaker 9: and so you know, they know who they want, they
Speaker 9: go after that person.
Speaker 10: They don't waste a lot of time in I mean.
Speaker 9: I remember that weekend right before the Peach Bowl, the
Speaker 9: semi final game last year, was when they loaded up
Speaker 9: on transfers and were able to get pretty much much
Speaker 9: everybody they wanted for the season coming in you know,
Speaker 9: in a relatively short stand so he does not waste
Speaker 9: a lot of time or you know, or meander as
Speaker 9: he's figuring out the roster. And you know, they obviously
Speaker 9: had some needs after last season, from quarterback to defensive end.
Speaker 9: You know, one of the offensive line spots certainly coming
Speaker 9: in Joe Brunner from Wisconsin with a great addition and
Speaker 9: so but it wasn't like they took thirty transfers. I
Speaker 9: think they took seventeen or eighteen. But they took some
Speaker 9: real high quality guys and you know, with the resources
Speaker 9: that they have, they were able to land them. But
Speaker 9: it all starts with the vision of the head coach
Speaker 9: and the approach that you have towards roster building. Because
Speaker 9: if you just grab transfers or you just chase guys
Speaker 9: because other teams are doing it, it's probably not going
Speaker 9: to work out in your favor.
Speaker 5: Its Adam Rittenberg with us. What's also kind of interesting
Speaker 5: about it is people, I think often forget how many
Speaker 5: holdovers there are a lot of you know, there were
Speaker 5: a number of I should say handful of Tom Allen
Speaker 5: holdovers that had significant moments for him as well in
Speaker 5: the past two years and he made.
Speaker 9: A point to say, hey, listen, everyone's making a big
Speaker 9: deal about how the JM you guys are gone, Like
Speaker 9: what about the Indiana guys who have been here two
Speaker 9: years and you know they've become our JM you guys.
Speaker 9: And I think that's been maybe the most impressive element
Speaker 9: of what he's done there, is taking the guys he
Speaker 9: inherited who were clearly talented, and Ta deserves credit for that,
Speaker 9: em and his staff that they brought some good players there.
Speaker 9: But but Kurt and his staff have brought the most
Speaker 9: out of them. And you know, you look at Carter Smith,
Speaker 9: you look at you know, other other players who Isaiah
Speaker 9: Jones and you guy, the guys on the defensive side
Speaker 9: who have really blossomed under this staff. You know, they
Speaker 9: weren't JM you guys. They weren't guys who knew how.
Speaker 10: Kurt Signetti and Brian Haynes and the rest of that
Speaker 10: staff ticked.
Speaker 9: They have just embraced them, and they've risen up and
Speaker 9: and and become, you know, in some cases, elite players.
Speaker 9: Charlie Becker, So, I think that that's really an impressive
Speaker 9: part of it and also something that needs to be
Speaker 9: looked at when you're analyzing what Indiana can be again
Speaker 9: this year, you're naive if you don't think they're a
Speaker 9: playoff contender. They absolutely are, and they're probably going to
Speaker 9: be as long as he's there in most seasons. And
Speaker 9: part of that is the development piece. It's not just
Speaker 9: spending money on Josh Hoover and Nick Marsh and those
Speaker 9: defensive linemen from Notre Dame in Kansas State like, it's
Speaker 9: about inheriting players that maybe haven't blossomed yet and figuring
Speaker 9: out how to make them the best they can be.
Speaker 9: And they've done that.
Speaker 5: You mentioned Hoover and Marsh and I'll add in Turbo
Speaker 5: Richard as well. Impactful players at impactful positions offensively for
Speaker 5: Kurt Signetti coming up to defend their national title. How
Speaker 5: do you ultimately think that's that's going to work out,
Speaker 5: especially with that particular trio.
Speaker 2: An excellent groove.
Speaker 9: It obviously it starts with Josh, and you know, we
Speaker 9: know that Josh can be really productive, he was throughout
Speaker 9: his time at TCU. I think the key is decision
Speaker 9: making and turnovers and limiting those and obviously making great
Speaker 9: decisions in big moments.
Speaker 2: And Seg mentioned that.
Speaker 9: Yesterday that you know, Bernanda Mendoza was a great quarterback
Speaker 9: because of how he.
Speaker 10: Played in the fourth quarter of big games.
Speaker 9: And that's what Josh Hoover is going to have to
Speaker 9: do for this team to get back to the playoffs
Speaker 9: and make another run at the national title. And they're
Speaker 9: certainly having guys like Nick marsh and Charlie Becker, who
Speaker 9: was really one of the true stars of the postseason
Speaker 9: last year, you know, gives this Indiana passing game a
Speaker 9: real chance.
Speaker 2: And the thing that I love about.
Speaker 9: Their offense though, is their commitment to the run. No
Speaker 9: matter how a game is going, no matter how the opponent,
Speaker 9: you know, how good or bad they are, they are
Speaker 9: going to run the ball with multiple backs and that
Speaker 9: was a big part of their success last year. And
Speaker 9: I think, you know, guys like Turbo Richard, you know,
Speaker 9: will help them sustain that approach this year.
Speaker 5: Who most impresses you either on the inbound new or holdovers. Defensively,
Speaker 5: speaking for AYU this year.
Speaker 9: Well, I think Tyreek Tucker is a National Defensive Player
Speaker 9: of the Year candidate.
Speaker 10: He's certainly an Outland Trophy candidate in defensive tackle, and
Speaker 10: he is a jam you guy.
Speaker 9: Who's who's still there, and I I just I love
Speaker 9: the way he plays. I love how consistent he is,
Speaker 9: how durable he is, and that gives you a real chance,
Speaker 9: you know, when when you when you have a guy
Speaker 9: in the middle of your defensive line who can be
Speaker 9: disruptive and who's also really reliable. So you know, I
Speaker 9: think he's one and.
Speaker 12: You know that.
Speaker 9: I think that linebacking group of Elijah Hardy and Isaiah
Speaker 9: Jones gives you a lot of excitement. And you know,
Speaker 9: I was there in the spring and uh, you know,
Speaker 9: saw them practice, and you know that that's a that's
Speaker 9: an elite level defense.
Speaker 10: I think still and I know.
Speaker 9: There's a lot of confidence in terms of internally about
Speaker 9: what they can be.
Speaker 2: Even though they lose some really.
Speaker 9: Good players, you know, D'Angelo Pond's it's very difficult to
Speaker 9: replace the guy like that. I mean Dangel Pons is
Speaker 9: six foot or six y one. He's like a top
Speaker 9: ten pick. I mean, he was that good of a player.
Speaker 9: So that's up to replace. But they do hold over
Speaker 9: some really good players, and they also brought in some
Speaker 9: transfers who I think can help them at least at
Speaker 9: the at the Edgresher spot.
Speaker 5: Adam Rittenberg. He is of a ESPN on ESPN dot
Speaker 5: com talking Big ten college football on the any more
Speaker 5: Automotive group potline. So Barry Odom and the boiler Makers
Speaker 5: and trying to get back to the level of respectability
Speaker 5: and then make something happen in Wesse Lafayette with our program.
Speaker 5: Where do you expect them to be this season?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think they'll be better. It couldn't be a
Speaker 9: lot worse, but then that's not saying much.
Speaker 10: I just feel like they know. This felt like a
Speaker 10: full off season for them, and a.
Speaker 9: Large part of the struggle last year was how late
Speaker 9: they got some of the players on campus that they
Speaker 9: were going to be relying on. And I don't think
Speaker 9: they had that same issue from talking to Barry and
Speaker 9: I mean his general manager was there as well in Chicago.
Speaker 10: I think they feel like they've been.
Speaker 9: With this group now since the end of last year,
Speaker 9: with obviously some new additions, but some of their core
Speaker 9: pieces from last year are back, and I just think
Speaker 9: certain areas will be a little bit more reliable. Depth
Speaker 9: should should help them now. It's the schedule doesn't do
Speaker 9: them any favors. With Notre Dame and Wake Forest, a
Speaker 9: team that surprisingly won nine games last year.
Speaker 2: Jake Dicker is the heck.
Speaker 9: Of a coach who has roots here in the Midwest,
Speaker 9: so that's going to be a tough game. And then
Speaker 9: obviously the Big Ten schedule, but I think we'll see
Speaker 9: a perdu team that's more competitive returning quarterback and Ryan Brown,
Speaker 9: and I know that Barry is really excited about what
Speaker 9: he can do this year.
Speaker 5: So Adam Brittenberg with us. So yeah, obviously the major
Speaker 5: coaching landscape changes in college football. You can, to me
Speaker 5: make the significant argument and Arbor Happy Valley and then
Speaker 5: East Lansing. How will things work out in years number
Speaker 5: one for these trio of coaches and really two of
Speaker 5: the three places where the level of expectations are going
Speaker 5: to be substantial out of the G eight, no doubt.
Speaker 9: And I think of the three, you know, Penn State
Speaker 9: to me has the best chance to make the playoff,
Speaker 9: you know, because of you know who Matt brought with
Speaker 9: him from Iowa State, some really good players who have
Speaker 9: been in big games over the years, including quarterback Rock Obec,
Speaker 9: but also some really good defensive players and you know,
Speaker 9: alignment and on.
Speaker 10: Both sides of the ball, players like that. You know,
Speaker 10: they also have a very.
Speaker 9: Favorable schedule relatively speaking. You know, nobody out out of
Speaker 9: conference in a power for a league, and then a
Speaker 9: Big ten schedule that doesn't include Ohio State, Oregon, or Indiana,
Speaker 9: so you know, Penn State. Anything less than nine wins
Speaker 9: I think will be looked at a disappointing and if
Speaker 9: you win ten, you're probably in the playoffs. You're Michigan
Speaker 9: will be fascinating.
Speaker 10: You know, Kyle is sixty six years old. He's not
Speaker 10: gonna be coaching there for ten years.
Speaker 2: He's there to win.
Speaker 9: I don't know if they're ready to win at at
Speaker 9: an elite level, but I think they're a team that
Speaker 9: can be better than it was in certain elements last year.
Speaker 10: I think they're gonna run the ball really well.
Speaker 9: I think they're going to play good defense, possibly great defense,
Speaker 9: and his teams are always very strong on special teams.
Speaker 9: It was one of the strengths that had at Utah.
Speaker 9: I just don't know. The quarterback situation is a major question.
Speaker 9: If they're going to, you know, be a substantially better
Speaker 9: passing offense, and they've been really at the bottom of
Speaker 9: the FBS and passing the last couple.
Speaker 10: Of years, So that's certainly an area to watch.
Speaker 9: I think we're Michigan State. They've got a lot of
Speaker 9: work to do. I don't think the rosters where it
Speaker 9: needs to be. The league is very tough, and I
Speaker 9: think it's going to take some time for Pat Fitzgerald
Speaker 9: to get that thing going again. But you look at
Speaker 9: Indiana and you look at other examples, and you know
Speaker 9: if you have you feel you have the right coach
Speaker 9: and the right approach, they can rise up to the
Speaker 9: issue that I have with him is is the offense
Speaker 9: completely fell apart towards the end of his time at Northwestern.
Speaker 9: Even when they were winning some of some of those years,
Speaker 9: their offense was near the bottom and in almost every category.
Speaker 9: So if there, if they're more if they have it
Speaker 9: together on offense in Michigan State, I'll have more confidence
Speaker 9: that they can rise up a very tough Big ten ranks.
Speaker 10: So a little bit faster.
Speaker 5: Is so last year you beat the Ducks in your
Speaker 5: gene beat them again in the Peach Bowl to advance
Speaker 5: to the National Championship Game. For Dan Lanning and the Ducks,
Speaker 5: is this a championship game advancement or bust for this
Speaker 5: group that he has this year.
Speaker 9: I think it's a team that I hate to say this,
Speaker 9: it almost doesn't matter what they do in the regular
Speaker 9: season unless they lose enough games not to make the playoff,
Speaker 9: which would then be a major disappointment. But whether they
Speaker 9: win eleven, whether they win ten, it's about what they
Speaker 9: do in the playoffs, right because two years ago they
Speaker 9: were undefeated, number one team, won the Big Ten and
Speaker 9: then they just get blasted by Ohio State. This past year,
Speaker 9: again a really good team that just had lost to
Speaker 9: Indiana but was certainly capable of advancing in the playoff.
Speaker 9: They won two games and then Indiana blast them. So
Speaker 9: how they perform in the playoff is really going to
Speaker 9: tape how we look at the season for Oregon, and
Speaker 9: it's a big reason why Dante Moore came back at
Speaker 9: quarterback while their entire starting defensive line has come back.
Speaker 9: I think their offensive skill will be deeper and better
Speaker 9: than it was last year. They had a lot of
Speaker 9: injuries at running back, receiver, and tight end. If they
Speaker 9: can stay healthy at those positions, this should be a
Speaker 9: top five offense with Dante Moore leading the way. So
Speaker 9: I think, yeah, anything other than the deep playoff run
Speaker 9: will be looked at as disappointing given what Oregon has
Speaker 9: coming back.
Speaker 5: All right, hot seat, Lincoln Riley your number five, lukewarm.
Speaker 5: The hotter seat Matt Rule in Lincoln with the corn Huskers.
Speaker 5: Let's start with those two programs.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't think MAT's on the hot seat. I
Speaker 9: mean they gave him an extension when all the Penn
Speaker 9: State stuff was going on. You know, whether they end
Speaker 9: up forgetting regretting it or not, what we'll find out.
Speaker 9: But they do not want to fire Matt Rules. So yeah,
Speaker 9: Lincoln Riley's in a really interesting place because he believes
Speaker 9: this is a team that can make the College Football Playoff.
Speaker 9: He's no longer complaining about what USC doesn't have or
Speaker 9: what he inherited from Clay Helton.
Speaker 10: They feel like this roster.
Speaker 9: Is certainly strong enough and doesn't have many obvious holes.
Speaker 9: And so the challenge for them is going to be
Speaker 9: their schedule. So they have five critical games, three at
Speaker 9: home with Washington, Oregon, and Ohio State, and then two
Speaker 9: on the road ten State in Indiana. And so I
Speaker 9: think they'll win at least one of those ones at home,
Speaker 9: but if they can win two and then split the
Speaker 9: road games, I think they're going to the College Football Playoff.
Speaker 9: But if they go one in four or zero in
Speaker 9: five in that stretch, then USC maybe looking for a
Speaker 9: new coach. It's that simple. And why this is such
Speaker 9: a huge season for Lincoln.
Speaker 5: How about in Wisconsin and Madison with Luke Fickle in company?
Speaker 5: Is this going to be a year where they do
Speaker 5: a lot more? And I'm assuming Badger fans would expect it,
Speaker 5: But what do you expect out of that program?
Speaker 2: I think they'll be better.
Speaker 9: I was up there watching them practice the spring. I
Speaker 9: think if they can stay healthier at key positions, namely
Speaker 9: quarterback because they've had no health at quarterback the last
Speaker 9: two years, that they're going to be a better football team.
Speaker 9: I think the challenge is can you get through September
Speaker 9: with limited injuries and decent enough morale Because you have
Speaker 9: Notre Dame to begin with at lambeau Field at the opener.
Speaker 9: Notre Dame hasn't played since last November. They're going to
Speaker 9: be incredibly fired up for this one and I think
Speaker 9: they'll probably win easily. And then Wisconsin also has to
Speaker 9: go to Penn State, so that if you can get
Speaker 9: through that September stretch, you have a schedule that isn't
Speaker 9: loaded with contenders. I don't think there's Ohio State, Indiana,
Speaker 9: Oregon on that schedule either. So Wisconsin's got an opportunity
Speaker 9: to pile up some wins and start to feel better
Speaker 9: about a trajectory. And from talking to Luke in Chicago,
Speaker 9: I think he feels much better about the leadership. He's
Speaker 9: excited about Colton Joseph, who's a different type of quarterback,
Speaker 9: dual threat coming in from from Old Dominion. They think
Speaker 9: they can run the ball a lot more efficiently this year,
Speaker 9: and then defensively, he like likes some of their star
Speaker 9: players there, Mason Posta among them. So they've got a chance.
Speaker 9: It's just, you know, how are they going to emerge
Speaker 9: from September with those two big games.
Speaker 5: Adam Brettenberg's with us regarding Big ten in college football,
Speaker 5: give me a surprise team or two in your estimation.
Speaker 5: As we said here right now, you.
Speaker 9: Know it's I don't know if Minnesota would be a surprise,
Speaker 9: but I think that they're a team that has been
Speaker 9: right on the cusp of breaking through winning seven eight
Speaker 9: games pretty much every year. I think with a returning.
Speaker 2: Quarterback and Drake Lindsay.
Speaker 9: They have one of the best pass rushers in college
Speaker 9: football and Anthony Smith, a lot of other returning players.
Speaker 9: I think they're one to watch potentially. And then Washington,
Speaker 9: you know, again, they were a team that took a
Speaker 9: step forward last year.
Speaker 2: They need to.
Speaker 9: Play better in the big games, especially away from Seattle,
Speaker 9: but they bring back Demon Williams junior, who briefly entered
Speaker 9: the transfer portal in January, and ultimately and Jed Fish
Speaker 9: was talking about the defense, you know, under the leadership
Speaker 9: of former Purdue head coach Ryan Walters, possibly being a
Speaker 9: top ten unit this year. That's how confident he feels
Speaker 9: in that side of the ball. And if that's the case,
Speaker 9: like they can be a very disruptive team. They go
Speaker 9: to usc Indiana has to go there, like that's gonna
Speaker 9: be a tough out if they can stay healthy.
Speaker 10: They didn't take a lot of transfers, which to me
Speaker 10: indicates that their.
Speaker 9: Coaching staff is really confident in who they have coming back.
Speaker 9: So I think Washington's a really interesting team to watch.
Speaker 9: And you know, as far as others, you know, Nebraska,
Speaker 9: maybe they finally put it together this year. I like
Speaker 9: their quarterback transfer Anthony Philandria. You know, Northwestern has Chip
Speaker 9: Kelly as their offensive coordinator, although they have a really
Speaker 9: tough schedule, so it might be tough to have major
Speaker 9: progress until year two. But yeah, I think I think
Speaker 9: Washington and Minnesota or two that I'm interested in.
Speaker 5: I'm going to ask you about this because AU kicks
Speaker 5: off their season again in defense of their national championship
Speaker 5: at home against North Texas and.
Speaker 3: The Main Green.
Speaker 5: They were good a year ago. I think they lost
Speaker 5: a little bit, but there's an interesting dynamic it work here.
Speaker 5: And I'm sure you've noticed that former Hoosier and Trace
Speaker 5: Jackson Davis, who was a standout baller and in the
Speaker 5: NBA right now of IU, his younger brother, Tavian Jackson,
Speaker 5: is quarterbacking the Mean Green. Does that stand out to
Speaker 5: you as one of the start to the season types
Speaker 5: of games, especially for the defending national champions.
Speaker 9: Well, you know, it's certainly interesting for Indiana fans because
Speaker 9: of the of the Jackson family ties to the school,
Speaker 9: But that situation is more common than you think because
Speaker 9: of the mobility of quarterbacks. You know, Aiden Childs, for example,
Speaker 9: left Michigan State. He's at Northwestern. Northwestern plays at Michigan
Speaker 9: State this year. Like those situations tend to happen. But
Speaker 9: I think the real intrigue is Indiana and hey, they're
Speaker 9: defending their national championship.
Speaker 10: How are they going to look?
Speaker 9: How's Josh Houver going to look? Is it going to
Speaker 9: feel the same as it did last year when they
Speaker 9: were so dominant really for start to finish in these.
Speaker 2: Non conference games?
Speaker 10: Or are they going to get off to a slow start.
Speaker 9: But yeah, at the Quarterback Reunion, even though it does
Speaker 9: happen around college football, it's always another layer too. You know,
Speaker 9: doesn't look like a superbly exciting game to start the
Speaker 9: season for IU.
Speaker 5: Adam Rittenberg of ESPN on ESPN dot com, I know
Speaker 5: you've been writing a lot regarding I you and your
Speaker 5: coverage of Chicago on the Big ten media days. What's
Speaker 5: on the horizon for you, Adam?
Speaker 9: Yeah, some national pieces coming out, one on quarterbacks and
Speaker 9: talking to coaches around the country on what they think
Speaker 9: of some of the top returning quarterbacks. Have I actually
Speaker 9: do working on a piece about the next Indiana and
Speaker 9: really diving into profiles of universities and programs that maybe
Speaker 9: we overlooked. I mean, I for one did not realize
Speaker 9: how large the Indiana alumni base was and how capable
Speaker 9: it was, and who else might have those ingredients along
Speaker 9: with the coach and administration and support to breakthrough. So
Speaker 9: that'll be another piece that we'll we'll have out in August.
Speaker 5: So yeah, that that dynamic and the Big Ten and
Speaker 5: IU and the SEC. That is pretty awesome because these
Speaker 5: are all scenarios where you never really thought you'd be
Speaker 5: having this discussion. Yet Adam, here we are. It's awesome,
Speaker 5: it is.
Speaker 9: And again, I you know, as someone who's covered the
Speaker 9: Big Ten for many years, when it was down, you really.
Speaker 10: Couldn't say anything right.
Speaker 9: The SEC would would would would talk its talk, and
Speaker 9: the Big Ten just had to kind of take it.
Speaker 9: And now the SEC is making these ridiculous arguments about
Speaker 9: depths and now their schedule is too hard. It's just laughable.
Speaker 9: From a big I loved what SIGG said, like like
Speaker 9: when when the Big Ten is down, we take it,
Speaker 9: and when you're down, you guys cry about it, Like
Speaker 9: that's absolutely what you thought would happen.
Speaker 10: If the table's ever turned, and now they have.
Speaker 9: And I don't know how long it's gonna last, but
Speaker 9: I'll tell you this, if Oregon wins the national title,
Speaker 9: and it's four for four with four different teams and the.
Speaker 2: CCS not in that game.
Speaker 9: It's going to be a really rough offseason for folks
Speaker 9: down south.
Speaker 5: Do you have a selection for the Big Ten title
Speaker 5: game right now?
Speaker 9: You know, it's hard not to think it's some combination
Speaker 9: of Oregon, Ohio State, Indiana, although again, as I know,
Speaker 9: the Penn State because of their schedule, could be sitting there,
Speaker 9: you know, at ten and two, eleven and one with
Speaker 9: really a chance to squeak in there because their schedule
Speaker 9: just isn't as tough as.
Speaker 10: Some of those other teams.
Speaker 9: But you're curious if USC can can can really back
Speaker 9: up with Lincoln is saying, and some of these other
Speaker 9: contenders Washington, Michigan and so forth. But I think it'll
Speaker 9: be some combo of IU, Oregon, and Ohio State again.
Speaker 5: Anam, we'll do it again soon, man. I appreciate the time.
Speaker 5: Good stuff, all right, thanks for having me, Adam Rittenberg
Speaker 5: of esp and ESPN dot com a college football Big
Speaker 5: Ten resource that was outstanding right there, really was all
Speaker 5: over the map, which we need to be. We didn't
Speaker 5: even bring up Brett bi La Money Illinois barely hit
Speaker 5: on Wisconsin, barely hit on Nebraska. Washington was a jetfish
Speaker 5: their coach. There's another one we didn't bring up where
Speaker 5: I think a lot of people think could be a
Speaker 5: surprise team of the Big Ten. We shall see, and
Speaker 5: we shall take a break. We'll come back. We'll go
Speaker 5: over what we've done so far today. We'll get you
Speaker 5: set for some state fair passes before the end of
Speaker 5: this show and exciting weekend the fever later on tonight.
Speaker 5: Did JMV takeover tomorrow night? Maybe some inclement weather, some
Speaker 5: stormy weather on the inbound. We'll find out right now,
Speaker 5: your weather updated? Are you ready? Cardisy at Fox fifty
Speaker 5: nine The Ride with JMV. Kids need their summer.
Speaker 1: Stop jacking with it that he three five and one
Speaker 1: oh seven five the fan.
Speaker 5: Don't jack with it. Mike's score right here. And a
Speaker 5: flock of seagulls.
Speaker 1: I love the flock of seagulls.
Speaker 5: You like this song? Yeah, dude, I saw a flock
Speaker 5: of seagulls maybe h four years ago, something like that,
Speaker 5: three four years ago around here. I'm still fat at
Speaker 5: the time. You're in the fat face. That's how you
Speaker 5: keep track of time like that? Yeah, I know it
Speaker 5: s f still fat and what's funny? I had no idea.
Speaker 5: It's like moving along. Everything's okay. I'm still hooping like that.
Speaker 5: I did walk a lot more than than I do now.
Speaker 5: But now Mike's score and a flock of seagulls. Somebody
Speaker 5: just asked me, if you won the Howard Jones tickets,
Speaker 5: let me know next week, because I've always said they
Speaker 5: normally email the winners concert tickets the week leading up
Speaker 5: to the show. So if you're still looking. For example,
Speaker 5: we gave away Howard Jones, it's Howard Jones, English Beat,
Speaker 5: Modern English and Wang Chung a week from tonight at
Speaker 5: Everwise Amphitheater. I'm going to be going. Howard Jones is
Speaker 5: going to join me coming up next week. I believe.
Speaker 5: I love Howard Jones. Always awesome. But that's it ever
Speaker 5: Wise coming up a week from tonight. But normally when
Speaker 5: we give away tickets promotions, I think send those out
Speaker 5: a couple of days prior to the shows. So sit
Speaker 5: tight on that one if you would not mind, because
Speaker 5: at some point that's going to be coming to you.
Speaker 5: And as well, you've got Garth Brooks that's coming up
Speaker 5: four dates in all the Gambridge field House in the
Speaker 5: not so distant future. So just keep me updated two
Speaker 5: and I will ask folks, tell folks exactly what needs
Speaker 5: to be done in that capacity and promotions. But protocol
Speaker 5: is again normally a couple of days prior, if not less.
Speaker 5: But watch your email when you get an email from US,
Speaker 5: either email or text. I'm assuming it's an email in
Speaker 5: this case. But yeah, coming up next week, you've got
Speaker 5: Howard Jones. I don't know what is what's this week?
Speaker 5: Do we know what's going on in rue off tonight
Speaker 5: or this weekend? I have not checked on that. I
Speaker 5: know next week you have Howard Jones and the concert,
Speaker 5: the eighties concert that I talked about it. Neverwise, I
Speaker 5: believe a Conte Prairie. You have the Fan four that
Speaker 5: is the Beatles tribute band. What's that rule offh this weekend? Anything?
Speaker 5: Train tomorrow? Oh yeah, Trump's sorry. Train is tomorrow and
Speaker 5: then sticks in Chicago on Sunday.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Now, what's what's the guy's name Monahan from Train? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I think that's it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, something Monahan. He's actually been on here before too,
Speaker 5: Pat Monahan, which is the reason why I don't know
Speaker 5: his first name. Yeah, Pat Monahan, Train he was actually
Speaker 5: really good? Is train? Train is one of those bands
Speaker 5: to where no matter what's going on, they're on tour
Speaker 5: in the summertime and a lot of people go they're
Speaker 5: just a sing along group. What's what's the favorite Train song? Out?
Speaker 4: Drops a Jupiter?
Speaker 5: Nothing name now that song?
Speaker 9: Right?
Speaker 5: Yeah? What about I'm trying to think of. There are
Speaker 5: a couple of others there too, Drops of Jupiter? Is
Speaker 5: there something soul sister kind of thing?
Speaker 4: Drive By would be another one. They hate soul Sister too,
Speaker 4: Is that right?
Speaker 5: Is that what they do? I believe that they do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a good call? Drive By is maybe my favorite.
Speaker 5: There is one and I'm trying to remember it right
Speaker 5: now that I can't. That's too bad. I don't even
Speaker 5: know how popular it is. But the ten most popular
Speaker 5: Train song that's Tomorrow Night?
Speaker 13: Right?
Speaker 4: Yes? Have you ever heard Fifty Ways to Say Goodbye?
Speaker 5: That's what I like?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that one's really good?
Speaker 5: John, Yeah, yeah that yes, Yeah, I don't mind that
Speaker 5: fifty Ways to say Goodbye. I believe Pat Monaghan is
Speaker 5: from northern Ohio? Was he not around Cleveland? You guys
Speaker 5: are broth bad?
Speaker 4: This is bad ball knowledge.
Speaker 5: My guys are I think you guys are like home
Speaker 5: state bros. Right there. I believe so.
Speaker 3: So you got Erie Pennsylvania, Oh well, I mean that's close.
Speaker 5: That's northern Ohio, Pennsylvania through the Wonders were from too Erie, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 5: I'm just fictitiously. The Wonders were from Erie, Pennsylvania. Chicago
Speaker 5: and Sticks coming up on Sunday too great sing along
Speaker 5: bands for everybody to enjoy. So I have some fun
Speaker 5: with that, and my microphone keeps getting all limp here,
Speaker 5: what's happening?
Speaker 3: What was it during h all the time you hit it?
Speaker 3: We're getting soft on me right here, you hit it
Speaker 3: during the heavy interview. I think I wonder if anybody
Speaker 3: else heard that.
Speaker 5: Damn v I hear you talking about the pacers and
Speaker 5: diz owned. Do we know anything concretely yet? We do
Speaker 5: not know anything. And that's why I've been an advocate
Speaker 5: by saying, hey, one side is we don't know exactly
Speaker 5: what's coming up yet, but you have to be you
Speaker 5: need to be cost efficient for the fans. I think
Speaker 5: that's fair to say. I think that's incredibly fair to say.
Speaker 5: You have to be cost efficient for the fans. Otherwise
Speaker 5: it made drive you nuts.
Speaker 3: John, I'll add this into this conversation. Mike Vorkanov, He's
Speaker 3: works for the Athletic. He reported yesterday that the Wolves
Speaker 3: like finalized their deal with the Zone yea, and again
Speaker 3: it could look different for all these teams. But he
Speaker 3: was talking about there's a detail in here in his
Speaker 3: tweet that says they're making fifteen games free for fans
Speaker 3: to watch, which, like, I don't know how to take
Speaker 3: that because I wonder if maybe the price is too
Speaker 3: high and they're like, hey, we'll give you fifteen free games,
Speaker 3: Like that concerns me.
Speaker 4: There's nothing about the price in his tweet.
Speaker 5: And then what would we average that out? Well, do
Speaker 5: you know exactly for the timber Wolves in this case,
Speaker 5: which again could be different for the Pacers, what that
Speaker 5: would average out to per.
Speaker 3: Game that that I don't know because there's nothing yet
Speaker 3: as far as what the price would be for these packages.
Speaker 4: So I don't know. I really it's hard to say.
Speaker 4: It's hard to say, but.
Speaker 5: Because somebody who was telling me that that what it
Speaker 5: comes down to is maybe about six dollars a game
Speaker 5: if it's handling that capacity, And can.
Speaker 3: I be honest, John, like there's I mean, last year
Speaker 3: you could have went to a Pacers game in person
Speaker 3: for six dollars.
Speaker 5: It's set in the two hundred seas exactly. Well, I
Speaker 5: mean that's a nineteen win season exactly. But I mean,
Speaker 5: who knows, Like if this is going to be the future.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's only going to get more expensive, right,
Speaker 5: Like you're paying to go to games, you know, the
Speaker 5: same cost of where you could go to games.
Speaker 4: So I don't know, man, I don't it's definitely.
Speaker 3: I think you've done a great job talking about it
Speaker 3: this week, and Austin Karp was great in that conversation.
Speaker 3: But you're right, we don't know, and we kind of
Speaker 3: just need to wait and see until details come out
Speaker 3: and more teams start finalizing their deals with the zone.
Speaker 5: That will h This is not a time where you
Speaker 5: want to overextend anybody, and I'm assuming that everybody with
Speaker 5: the Pacers they have that in mind. You just don't
Speaker 5: want this to be well, this is a lone option,
Speaker 5: so we had to take it. Very important season, actually
Speaker 5: very important couple of seasons for this. The last thing
Speaker 5: the NBA teams jamv need, including the Pacers, to do.
Speaker 5: You got to put the fans. First, they could do
Speaker 5: the BS streaming and also get a local station for
Speaker 5: over the air broadcast for locals. But no, if that
Speaker 5: is not the case, I will not watch again. Jennifer,
Speaker 5: We'll see. Eric says, that's my My daughter has a
Speaker 5: job with seven Brew up here in Kocomo. Shout out
Speaker 5: to Kocomo, JAMV. I enjoyed Zach Kicks on the show
Speaker 5: a little bit earlier. You're going to do that again.
Speaker 5: We indeed will do that again. Zach Kicks of Locked
Speaker 5: on Colts was very good a little bit earlier today.
Speaker 5: All right, tell me this. I know we get a
Speaker 5: little bit of extra time coming up after the top
Speaker 5: of the hour. How much do we have.
Speaker 3: We're gonna have about ten minutes, John, not ten minutes.
Speaker 3: I can call an audible on that, but that's what
Speaker 3: it's looking like right now. Ten minutes of anything goes
Speaker 3: coming up at the top of the hour. So anything
Speaker 3: you guys want to talk about, we'll probably just do
Speaker 3: the same thing here too. Anything you guys want to
Speaker 3: discuss on anything goes that's coming up at the top
Speaker 3: of the hour, about ten minutes on the clock, we
Speaker 3: shall have that. I should also mention the reason why
Speaker 3: there's no hashtag gas Pat or Pat Sullivan today is
Speaker 3: because Pat is on vacation. I believe Pat is involved
Speaker 3: in a wedding in Florida during this show today, oddly
Speaker 3: timed slash scheduled wedding.
Speaker 5: Hey two, if you're in town for gen Con? Have
Speaker 5: you ever been to gen Con?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 5: Me either? What's What's? Is there anybody there at What's
Speaker 5: gen Con? Are there any stars, any actors or actresses?
Speaker 5: Anything about gen Con? Is it like Days of the
Speaker 5: Dead when we had demon on here a couple of
Speaker 5: days ago? Is this gen Con? What's the highlight of
Speaker 5: gen Con? I don't know. Man dressing up like Obi
Speaker 5: wan Kenobi not the highlight.
Speaker 3: You ever seen the Leroy Jenkins video or is that
Speaker 3: reference going over your head?
Speaker 5: I have not seen Leroy Jenkins video. What is the
Speaker 5: Leroy Jenkins video?
Speaker 3: Just a I think Dungeons and Dragons famous viral clip,
Speaker 3: but yeah, that'd be the only thing.
Speaker 5: I Are there any like actors or actresses at gen Con?
Speaker 5: Because normally you have that, right, don't they have like
Speaker 5: like Q and A's with Maybe not somebody that was
Speaker 5: in Star Wars or a former Star Trek or I
Speaker 5: don't even know what all that entails today. I'm sure
Speaker 5: it's probably a lot of video games, now, is it
Speaker 5: not like video gaming? And so yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4: Maybe I have to do some research on this and
Speaker 4: see if anybody's around here.
Speaker 5: Did anybody dress up as Thunder the Barbarian? You never watched?
Speaker 5: That cartoon had two year run fund. The reason why
Speaker 5: I know this is because I'll come home. This is serious.
Speaker 5: I'll come home from a JMV takeover and I'll get
Speaker 5: home maybe one one, one thirty in the morning, and
Speaker 5: I'll turn it on to Boomerang from the Cartoon Network
Speaker 5: and they'll have back to back episodes of sixties Johnny
Speaker 5: Quest is awesome, this with race. You ever watched the
Speaker 5: sixties Johnny Quest? Yeah? And Tim mathis And the actor
Speaker 5: most noted from Animal House is the voice of Johnny
Speaker 5: Quest when he was young. He was the voice in
Speaker 5: the nineteen sixties of Johnny Quest. And that was unique
Speaker 5: in the sixties because, you know, unlike most cartoons, I
Speaker 5: don't even know if there are any other cartoons out there,
Speaker 5: there were like losses of life, like dudes got whacked
Speaker 5: got off in Johnny Quest episodes, and that cartoon in
Speaker 5: the nineteen sixties, seriously like Henchmen were Alan so yeah,
Speaker 5: Johnny Quest But after that and had a two season
Speaker 5: run starting in nineteen eighty Thunder the Barbarian, and it
Speaker 5: was Thundar. I believe it took place in like where
Speaker 5: we are now in the two thousands. Thundar Ouhclaw the
Speaker 5: mock and Ariel who was he in nineteen eighty one?
Speaker 5: Who was the sorcerer? Ariel the smoking hot cartoon chick Aeriel.
Speaker 5: Let me tell you. I don't know if you've ever
Speaker 5: been turned on by any cartoon chicks, but that's it.
Speaker 5: Let me tell you Ariel, look up, look up, serious,
Speaker 5: look up, Aeriel from Thunderer to the Barbarians. Seeing it
Speaker 5: right now, I don't know who created that cartoon character.
Speaker 5: All right, well done, my brother, well done. Right there,
Speaker 5: Fundar Gen Con going on this weekend downtown Indie Gen Conners.
Speaker 5: If you're in town, welcome, enjoy and hit the district
Speaker 5: tip downtown not too far from you, guys are playing
Speaker 5: dungeons and Dragons on the sidewalk right there in front
Speaker 5: of the convention center, right there, right then and right there,
Speaker 5: all right, quick break, we'll come back we've got state
Speaker 5: Fair passes and anything goes as if we're not already
Speaker 5: there coming up here at the top of the hour,
Speaker 5: sit tight ninety three to five one oh seven five the.
Speaker 1: Fan the ride with JMV. That's why we played golf
Speaker 1: and relaxed.
Speaker 5: Okay, be the ball, sink the pt make the shot.
Speaker 1: You know a lot about golf that he three five
Speaker 1: and one oh seven five the fan.
Speaker 5: Fair passes number fifteen right now text line three one seven, two, three, nine,
Speaker 5: ten seventy State Fair passes number fifteen is going to
Speaker 5: go on us. This is train right here. What is
Speaker 5: it like something to say goodbye?
Speaker 4: Fifty ways to say goodbye?
Speaker 5: Let's just go for a second. Cauz it. Get yeah.
Speaker 5: I don't know the lyrics, obviously you sound like Kevin Bowen. No,
Speaker 5: I know I did those reads. They speed up clearly.
Speaker 5: He goes like a minute ten and they just squeeze
Speaker 5: it all into sixty seconds right there here. I crank
Speaker 5: this up by his part, Pat Monahanna train coming up
Speaker 5: tomorrow night at threw Off Music Center. I get number
Speaker 5: fifteen on the text line. I'm gonna look over here
Speaker 5: right now, and if you guys are half assing this,
Speaker 5: I may give these to myself. Three one seven, two,
Speaker 5: three nine, ten seventy Number fifteen's going to the State
Speaker 5: Fair far Fever tonight ten pm. The Tip nine thirty
Speaker 5: pre game. Debbie Antonelli will be doing the TV along
Speaker 5: with Pat Boyle, and she joined us a little bit earlier.
Speaker 5: Adam Rittenberg of ESPN Zach Hicks Lockdown Colts Podcast one
Speaker 5: oh seven five Thefan dot Com Mike in Brooklyn is
Speaker 5: right now. Hello, Mike JV.
Speaker 2: What's up.
Speaker 5: Good to hear from your pal. Howe things going to Brooklyn?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 14: Yeah, listen, I'm psyching myself up for the season. You know,
Speaker 14: I've never entered season where I will. I haven't convinced
Speaker 14: myself that the Colts were going to win the Super Bowl, sure,
Speaker 14: irregardless of what my thoughts are, So I pulled out.
Speaker 14: I'm pulling out all the stops here with Indiana connections.
Speaker 14: Last weekend, I was in I'm doing the Guns N'
Speaker 14: Roses Triple Crown. I was in Saratoga last week and
Speaker 14: they're playing in MetLife Stadium on August twelfth, yeah, and
Speaker 14: in Vegas on August twenty second, and I will be
Speaker 14: there and I remember you saying that he's almost had
Speaker 14: them in Indiana, Indiana for the Indy five hundred, Right,
Speaker 14: So I'm thinking, yes, if all I have to do
Speaker 14: is Colts win the super Bowl, and then I need
Speaker 14: you to all do me a big favorite, you know,
Speaker 14: claim that Indiana, you know, leverage on Axel, you know,
Speaker 14: and let him be the performer for the super Bowl
Speaker 14: victory party and parade and I will be there.
Speaker 5: Got it got to be. What's your favorite GNR saw Mike,
Speaker 5: be honest with.
Speaker 14: You, I'll say a little for me. Actually, it's it's estranged.
Speaker 14: I just like the whole song, the lyrics, the way
Speaker 14: it's arranged. It's uh an epic.
Speaker 5: I gotta go mister, I always go, mister Brownstone.
Speaker 13: Good choice.
Speaker 5: And I like I like Rocket Queen too because they
Speaker 5: mix in whoever actual is having sex with in the
Speaker 5: studio at that moment. Yeah, I believe it was a bandmates.
Speaker 5: It was a bandmates girlfriend too, I think, yeah, yeah, man,
Speaker 5: no one of the you know what, And that's exactly
Speaker 5: what you would expect in an elite rock band. They
Speaker 5: had great music that we always wish should have been more,
Speaker 5: and a lot of issues. That's what a rock band's
Speaker 5: supposed to be, like, yeah.
Speaker 14: They definitely walked it like they poked it. And a
Speaker 14: funny story. We were there, so we got I got,
Speaker 14: I got former friends. We went up there.
Speaker 2: Most of these guys like Corse guys.
Speaker 14: So I was like, listen if they're trying to get
Speaker 14: me the Saratoga because I've never been, and I was like, listen,
Speaker 14: this is your shot.
Speaker 13: Okay.
Speaker 14: So anyway, we relate to the we were at the
Speaker 14: track all day Saturday. We relate right to the concert
Speaker 14: and we went after you went to this restaurant everything.
Speaker 14: And then when I was looking up like the concert thing,
Speaker 14: they said that Axel was actually in like a gelado place,
Speaker 14: that we were right there, and I was like, none
Speaker 14: of you guys could have gotten a July.
Speaker 4: We're all from the K.
Speaker 14: Nobody got a gelato craving that night that I could
Speaker 14: run into Axel and say, yo, what's up? Because these
Speaker 14: getting and these guys are like, yeah, I can't count
Speaker 14: on you guys or anything.
Speaker 1: Haha.
Speaker 5: I tell you, man, well listen, if they do that,
Speaker 5: then something special has to occur. There's no question.
Speaker 14: Yeah, man, you got to use the cold super Bowl victory.
Speaker 14: You's got to everybody in Indiana's got to clem Indiana.
Speaker 14: Put the leverage on On Axel, the greatest frontman that
Speaker 14: ever lived, in my opinion, for his Indiana roots. He's
Speaker 14: going to have to be at the parade and all
Speaker 14: that stuff.
Speaker 5: My brother, I appreciate it. Have a fantastic weekend. We'll
Speaker 5: see how things are going coming up next week. Okay,
Speaker 5: real you too, Mike and Brooklyn. Fulton's going to join
Speaker 5: us as a part of Anything Goes that's coming up
Speaker 5: on the other side, you guys want to join. At
Speaker 5: two three nine ten seventy, we've got about ten minutes
Speaker 5: on the clock for anything goes that is coming up next.
Speaker 5: Ninety three to five, one oh seven five the Fan,
Speaker 5: the ride with JMV. My vehicle's too big. Stop giggling, everybody,
Speaker 5: I'm talking about a vehicle. My vehicle is too big.
Speaker 5: Ninety three five and one oh seven five the fan. Alright,
Speaker 5: so manything goes. Caleb's over there, I'm John Anything goes
Speaker 5: at two three nine ten seventy for the better part
Speaker 5: of the next seven and a half minutes. Chime in here,
Speaker 5: jamb takeover tomorrow night be one oh five point seven
Speaker 5: six until midnight. It is another one of those extravagant
Speaker 5: whatever situations, and last weekend it was incredible. So we're
Speaker 5: gonna floor that son of a gun coming up tomorrow night.
Speaker 5: I'll promise you that with a JMV takeover All Requests
Speaker 5: Saturday night, the only show nationwide that does that. And
Speaker 5: then one of these days they're gonna realize that other stations,
Speaker 5: not just in the state of Indiana, but nationally need
Speaker 5: to do it too, one of these days because it
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Speaker 5: B one oh five point seven JMV. What'd you say
Speaker 5: you were playing with? These dudes from Florida? Tonight? Nine
Speaker 5: thirty is the tip time? It is that the arc
Speaker 5: down off of one thirty five and stones crossing the
Speaker 5: Center Grove area. Just a state of the art basketball
Speaker 5: facility that is just opened. So how do you open
Speaker 5: a state of the art basketball facility, Caleb? You let
Speaker 5: a bunch of old decrepit dudes have a tournament in it,
Speaker 5: and I was not going to play. They've got different
Speaker 5: age brackets. I'm fifty six and a half. I'm playing
Speaker 5: with a younger one, so I'll probably get my ass
Speaker 5: work tonight, and I'm playing with some dudes from Florida
Speaker 5: that need somebody. I don't know if they need somebody
Speaker 5: like me nine thirty tonight, and they use their nine
Speaker 5: minute quarters and officials, just like a real game. I
Speaker 5: promise myself I'd never do this, and here I am.
Speaker 5: But you saw what I did. I got to the
Speaker 5: tech stream and I talked a bunch of junk because
Speaker 5: I thought I'd be playing with Landis, but instead he's
Speaker 5: playing with somebody else, and I'm playing with a group
Speaker 5: of dudes I don't know.
Speaker 4: You see, Landis is out for Sunday, so that dang man.
Speaker 5: We're playing what does that say? Saint Jude?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Where there's not multiple Saint Jude's, Because you know I
Speaker 3: went to multiple Greenwood.
Speaker 5: Christians on Wednesday night. You did on Wednesday night. I
Speaker 5: believe is that the one over there, right next to
Speaker 5: Ron Colly? I believe right.
Speaker 4: You can probably tell me.
Speaker 5: I don't know only who's the dude. I don't even
Speaker 5: know who's opening it up.
Speaker 4: I don't have any numbers.
Speaker 5: I bet you we're not going to have enough on
Speaker 5: Sunday morning, mark my words. I'm betting I'll be there though,
Speaker 5: it's like I will later on tonight for this nine
Speaker 5: thirty tip time. Good Lord, you're playing Pacific Time Letter
Speaker 5: on tonight, my man, Fulton? Is it two three, nine,
Speaker 5: ten seventy? This is anything goes? Hello, Fulton, Fulton? Are
Speaker 5: you there? But I am Heyboddy, go ahead, you better
Speaker 5: take me off a mute Palomino.
Speaker 12: You're fine, You're fine, John. You're about to go to
Speaker 12: my Annie and the Cast party tonight.
Speaker 5: You're doing?
Speaker 12: What?
Speaker 5: And where?
Speaker 1: What's my Danny the music?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, where's your party.
Speaker 8: Elward tonight?
Speaker 5: Okay, good for you, buddy, good for you. You got
Speaker 5: people with you?
Speaker 13: Ah yeah, I got my mom driving me up to Elwood,
Speaker 13: So we're gonna go to Elwood and watch the show
Speaker 13: for two hours.
Speaker 8: So it's gonna be a good one.
Speaker 5: Oh, Ellwood. I once got lost and ended up in Elwood.
Speaker 5: Is there a McClure gas station up there? That's where
Speaker 5: I got lost once upon a time. I am not
Speaker 5: sure it was either Elwood, No, its Elwood or Alexandria,
Speaker 5: one of the two. I can't remember.
Speaker 8: I have been to Airward so but I haven't seen
Speaker 8: the guests.
Speaker 5: What do you got for me? Pal Well?
Speaker 8: I'm going after the cast party, I'm going to Chicago
Speaker 8: and the stakes.
Speaker 5: Oh you are, you're going there coming up on Sunday.
Speaker 5: Good for you. Yeah, that's good. No, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 5: no right yeah, five to six to four.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I send you the video of the ball.
Speaker 5: Well, I saw it. How'd you foul that off your face?
Speaker 5: How'd that happen? Oh goodness, I don't think I've ever
Speaker 5: seen anybody swing a bat and then foul the pitch
Speaker 5: off their face. Well, the reason why, I think your
Speaker 5: timing was a little bit off there, faulting. To be
Speaker 5: honest with you, I think you were a little out
Speaker 5: in front of the pitch.
Speaker 13: Yeah, what happened was I was trying to hit the
Speaker 13: ball my sofa coach, yes, was trying to was trying to.
Speaker 8: Get the ball to me, and then I tried to
Speaker 8: sing it and it bounced on my helmet onto my head.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I saw that work right off your face. You know,
Speaker 5: I did not send it about it back out. You
Speaker 5: sent that to me on X but I didn't send
Speaker 5: it back out because I'm not standing for anybody making
Speaker 5: fun of my brother.
Speaker 9: Though.
Speaker 5: All right, so no, I don't want I didn't like that.
Speaker 5: Not normally in those situations people wear like a faceguard.
Speaker 5: You didn't have a face guard on, did you.
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I will know.
Speaker 2: I do know this.
Speaker 5: I know you're tough enough to handle it. You feel okay?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 8: I feel I feel better today.
Speaker 5: Good.
Speaker 8: I've been I've been resting my head and everything.
Speaker 5: And uh, did you get a bruise out of it
Speaker 5: or anything?
Speaker 12: I don't think.
Speaker 8: I don't think I got a bruze, but it was
Speaker 8: it was like on the forehead or something.
Speaker 5: So yeah, well I'm glad. I am glad you're okay, because,
Speaker 5: like I said, I've never seen anybody foul a pitch
Speaker 5: off their face quite like that.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 13: Uh, can you give a special shout out for Bill
Speaker 13: Smith in the entire cast for us.
Speaker 5: You're doing it right now, Pal, you're on the air
Speaker 5: right now. You're doing it yourself.
Speaker 13: Okay. I just wanted to say thank you to Bill
Speaker 13: Smith and on the cast of doing Ending the musical
Speaker 13: for me to be in part of the cast and everything,
Speaker 13: and I can't wait to do more.
Speaker 5: Shows with Bill Smith and the antic tatle You got that, Pal,
Speaker 5: enjoy your night, Thank you, buddy, I will thanks. That
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