WEBVTT - Full Show Friday 7/31/26: Colts Camp Day 3, Fever vs. Fire Preview + ESPN's Adam Rittenberg joins! 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:13.200 And where we go here. 0:00:13.200 --> 0:00:16.960 Anything you have a chance against ours? Mister cowboy? Hey mother, 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:19.040 what do you like to do? Oh? 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:19.480 I know what? 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:21.800 Play chess? 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:23.959 Screw When there's play chess, they. 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:26.760 Give off that. Jonathan Taylor, Chuck cunning gets way cooking. 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:27.000 The goal line. 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:27.840 He's in there. 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:34.640 What's down and why? Jonathan Taylor ler us. 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:40.800 Here's haliburn into the front court, mishandled it mcgin city shot. 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:46.519 He finds it. John, I have never been better to 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:49.239 be on the air with you here in Indianapolis, a 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:51.360 place where so many of my dreams have come true. 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:54.639 The ride with jmvy on ninety three five and one 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:55.440 oh seven. 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:56.240 Five the Fan. 0:00:57.160 --> 0:01:01.080 As we reflected on last season, this one phrase just 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:04.760 kept coming to my mind, and that was find a way. 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:07.280 And so that was the mantra that we settled on 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:11.560 kind of for this season. And I know and believe 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:15.040 on our roster and in our organization we have everything 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:16.840 we need this year to get where. 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:19.320 We need to go Carly orsee Gordon a little bit 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:24.120 earlier today, and that is how we start to show. Listen, 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:28.600 you're in a position where you have to believe in 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:33.120 what you have because simply put you have no alternative, 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:39.080 because if you did, you would not be sitting in 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:44.360 this situation right now. Guaranteed you would have tried something new, 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:50.680 you would have moved on. You have no choice. And 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:55.200 again the dictated terms happened during the NFL trade deadline 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:58.880 when you brought in Sauce Gardner. I get it. You 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:02.720 believe in your team and they were playing well, and 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:07.280 you bring in a corner, but in the process you 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:10.640 end up shedding a couple of first rounders this past 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:13.880 year and next year to where you leave yourself no 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:17.480 alternative but to find out exactly what's going to go 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:21.240 down coming up this year, you got none. There are 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:25.480 so many different ways to look at this. And we're 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:27.560 gonna talk to Zach Kicks for the first time on 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:29.600 this show a little bit later on. He's the guy 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:31.840 I've heard before. I think he's been on when Derek 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:35.600 Schultz has hosted for me. And it's one of those 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:39.080 situations where I don't know why I haven't had him on, 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:45.359 because we've obviously been diving into lockdown colts before. I 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:47.400 don't know why I haven't had him on. But for 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:49.200 the first time, we're going to have him on today 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:51.840 at four and I think he and I agree on 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:54.960 a couple of things, and it does ultimately come down 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:59.320 to the health of your team at certain positions. That's 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:02.280 when it comes down too. But it's going to be 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:06.240 even more magnified this season with the Colts because you 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:11.079 look around and there are so many questions and honestly, 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:15.839 so many questions you can ask about positions that are 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:21.920 vital and you wonder. You love going into a season 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:27.200 to where you know and you feel good about certain subjects. 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:30.919 Meaning you're going to get sideswiped by crap, but you're 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:36.800 able to absorb that crap because you feel certain in 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:41.600 other areas. Now there is a certainty going in. I'll 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:44.800 give you a great example of it. If you're looking 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:47.720 at the Colts, you would think, with all that is 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:52.440 invested at corner and what you have, that that is 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:56.800 a certainty. But face it, it is far from a 0:03:56.840 --> 0:04:00.960 certainty because you have to add if they remain healthy, 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:07.040 and that has been a question mark. We're talking about 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:11.040 two dudes that are really good at their craft and 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:15.520 their possession. Make no mistake about it, Sharvarius Ward and 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:20.279 Sauce Gardner are two of the best at that position. 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:24.320 But it comes down to are you going to be 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:27.839 able to buy whether or not they remain healthy, and 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:31.599 there has been evidence in the past that shows you 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:37.719 that they've been unable to remain healthy. So when you're 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:42.760 looking across this roster, where's the camp miss Jonathan Taylor 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:46.680 probably got to keep that guy happy. I don't know 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:50.000 if that means I would assume this. With the way 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:52.359 that Jonathan Taylor has acted so far in camp, it 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:54.799 seems like that there is going to be some sort 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:58.280 of deal, some sort of Rais extension, something is going 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:02.279 to be on the inbound. And it's still incredibly weird 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:05.320 the way that the Colts and Chris Ballard are handling this. 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:07.120 You know, I get it, there are things that we 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:13.520 don't really know too much about. Another example, you look 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:18.000 at this Colts wide Receiving Corps. You have Alec Pearce, 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:21.720 who you have given a raise an extension, and you're 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:24.000 going to put so much on his shoulders and a 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:29.160 lot of which he has been unable to show so far. 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:36.680 Big plays absolutely stretching the field, certainly, but how about 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:40.359 the other stuff that matters too? There's other stuff that 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:46.320 matters in this. So you look around at the wide 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:50.200 receiving room. How do you feel about it? You have 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:56.120 a team around thirty plus million dollars in space to navigate. 0:05:56.320 --> 0:06:00.680 Doesn't make you wonder why you haven't because if listen, 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:04.400 I understand that they see and believe something that we don't. 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:07.880 But I'll be damned over the past ten years if 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:11.120 we haven't been right about a lot of the situations 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:16.800 where they haven't. So that's the reason why we share dialogue. 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:20.560 We talk about it, and we feel confident that our 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:27.080 particular opinion. While I understand, I'm we're we're amateurs. For 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:30.560 lack of a better description, we are jackasses. We're a 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:34.880 lot of jackasses. But at the same time, it's not 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:37.080 like that they have said, well, see, we've told you 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:38.760 this is going to be great. They haven't told us 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:43.280 really anything, or at least shown us really anything, you know, 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:46.039 anything that would persuade us that what we've been talking 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:49.039 about over the years and certain situations have been inaccurate 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:54.159 and been rabble rousing, or simply put, have been just 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:59.240 incredibly wrong. Thus, you know, here we are, and I 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:01.800 think again, so magnificant reasons why you should look at 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:03.479 this and go all right. So, if this is going 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:05.800 to be the final season. You know, Chris Ballo didn't 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:07.760 want to sign an extension because you got to win 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:10.920 right now. And you look at the wide receiving room 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:13.560 or the corps or you know the personnel that are 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:17.160 out there, go get you somebody. I mean, how the 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:19.320 Niners went back and got somebody that they used to have. 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:22.760 They brought him back, which does shallow the pool. Maybe 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:25.400 they didn't have any interest in Deebo Samuel. Maybe Deebo 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:28.000 Samuel was done, but it was like seven million dollars 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:31.160 with what they have to spend, Who the hell cares? 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:35.800 And so much of it about is this And I 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:39.880 say this regarding basketball all the time. I'm gonna make 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:45.200 a comparison here with the Pacers and the Miles Turner 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:48.600 argument I always had when people say, you know what, 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:52.360 he's not as good at blocking shots anymore. He wasn't 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:55.280 as good this season shooting the three. You know what 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:59.920 he was he was a threat. He was a threat. 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:03.360 You went, oh, there's Miles Turner out there. So if 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:06.520 my ass dribbles on the interior here, I may want 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:08.960 to look out. I need somebody in the rearview here 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:13.920 because I don't know if he's coming at it. I mean, 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:16.960 he may be down in blocks per game, but the 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:19.840 threat of that is still there. He may not be 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:25.400 shooting forty percent from distance, but the threat is still there. 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:28.000 You have to go out and get a hand up, 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:29.840 or at the very least, you have to show a 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:33.040 little bit of recognition. How much recognition is going to 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:36.080 be shown with this group, and that is going to 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:39.080 be a group when you look at the quarterback coming 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:41.920 off an injury, no matter what you think, you look 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:44.120 at what you're going to count on and Jonathan Taylor, 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:47.800 and really that should be the loan given right now. 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:53.640 You may add in Tyler Warren, but the loan reel. 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:57.319 All right, we gotta stay up at night because we're 0:08:57.320 --> 0:09:00.480 thinking about this situation is going to be Jonathan Taylor. 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:06.240 And you look around the NFL, and teams have a 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:10.000 lot more of what you need to think about than 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:16.440 the Colts. That's how we end up here. So getting 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:19.880 back to Carly Ursa Gordon, I'm incredibly glad that she 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:24.600 believes in this because you have to and they honestly 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:31.720 are forced into having to believe this. Hopefully it's not 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:34.880 a false belief because we've been driven down this path 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:39.440 of false belief before and frankly everybody's a little bit 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:45.000 worn out on it. Hopefully that works all right, Colts 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:47.559 camp a little bit earlier today, we'll go over that 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:50.160 Zach Hich for the first time from Lockdown. Colts will 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:53.920 join us coming up in the four o'clock hour. Adam Rittenberg, 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:59.600 It was funny. The most noted dialogue from any coach 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:03.600 so far in the college football media days has been 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:08.600 that of Kurt Signetti. Well done, and that's exactly how 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:14.880 it should be. It is difficult, especially if you're somebody 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:20.160 that wants two things in mind here. If you don't 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:23.240 want to be coached, it may be different. But if 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:26.120 you want to be coached and you believe in the 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:31.520 success and the way that you're led in that capacity, 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:34.959 you can understand why it would be really easy to 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:40.000 want to follow Kurt Signetti. He just kind of got that. 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:43.280 He got the dialogue down. I mean, he got it 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:46.080 all and obviously the end result is that of winning 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:50.840 its results in general, but he just got that stuff 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:52.439 to where you go, a, yeah, you know what, that's 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:54.640 a dude that I could follow. I truly get it. 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:58.000 I get it why he's had success why he had 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:04.280 success even prior to Bloomington. The one thing I would 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:07.920 love to know is how you operate in terms of 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:12.720 your selection process, especially in this era, this world of nil, 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:15.520 when you have money to spend, but you still have 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:18.000 to be logical in the form and the fashion of 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:22.760 which you spend it. But that is a niche that 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:27.160 has been spectacular so far for him, no doubt about that. 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:32.120 But the Chicago stuff from Kurt Signetti was outsteading, in 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:35.199 particular the part about you know, I've been on vacation 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:38.360 long enough taking orders from my wife. Now I want 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:42.520 to hand out orders. That's beautiful, beautiful, and all that 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:48.600 comes to those that find that level of success. Adam Rittenberg, 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:52.440 not just about IU, but the entirety of the Big Ten. 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:56.120 There is so much to get into with the Big Ten. 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:58.840 We kind of scratched the surface. Pete and Nakos joined 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:02.520 us a couple of days ago. Zach Osterman yesterday from Chicago. 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:06.040 We really haven't got involved with everybody else, but you 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:09.520 have coaching situations that are new at Michigan, at Penn State, 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:13.240 at Michigan State, and nose dive into that we're going 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:16.439 to do. You've got five years now going into and 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:20.000 Lincoln Riley USC where it's time to get something done. 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:22.800 Speaking of time to get something done, they have been 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:26.080 really good, but you kind of wonder what Dante More 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:30.280 at quarterback, where Oregon finally is going to put itself. 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:37.200 Is it time to really have that massive breakthrough. And 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:40.640 then Purdue obviously just trying to fight their way from 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:46.400 the bottom. A lot of interesting storylines going on in 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:49.520 the Big Ten. Adam Rittenberg of ESPN on ESPN dot 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:52.720 compl joined us coming up in the five o'clock hour. 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:54.920 I mentioned this a little bit earlier. I think our 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:57.080 station sent out a video. You guys can help me 0:12:57.080 --> 0:12:59.240 out a video of me talking about it. I kind 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:03.560 of laugh about this because last time out, Kaitlyn Clark 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:07.199 was really good, Kelsey Mitchell was really good, the fever 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:10.400 really good, and most people say, well, it's the Seattle 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:13.000 Storm and they stink. And while you're right about that, 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:15.760 they had a red hot player and that was a 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:19.280 team that hung around, hung with the fever not too 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:22.720 long ago here in Indy. So to come out of 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:27.120 the All Star break, I just thought the fever looked different, 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:29.800 and I hope that that holds true. Later on tonight 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:32.160 against the Portland Fire, but it was a team that 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:37.440 just looked different. That to me was the signature moment 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:43.360 so far of how this squad needs to look or 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:48.880 how this team lives up to expectations, because that's what 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:52.920 it's all about, the expectations. I thought Caitlin Clark was 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:58.280 so good what thirty two and seven, And what that 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:01.240 shows me is she's going out there and getting hers 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:06.800 she's knocking down from distance. The shots she's stepping into 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:11.320 from distance aren't looking like the heaves that they did. 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:14.360 It looks like I am stepping into this son of 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:17.280 a gun, and I'm stepping into this confidently. It didn't 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:22.600 look like a heave. And there you're also going to 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:25.920 find a difference in those that are talking about it, 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:31.160 that describe her game and three point shooting, because there 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:34.200 are a lot of people out there that think it's 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:36.960 great when she's like one of ten. As long as 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:40.280 that want is from thirty feet, all right, nobody cares. 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:45.520 That sucks. Seriously, Listen, I'll applaud the one time in 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:48.000 ten you hit it from thirty feet, but I'll take 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:52.200 the time when you shoot forty percent from distance. That's 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:55.360 what matters. That's what helps you win. And you know, 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:58.320 when you get thirty plus and your team scores one 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:01.000 hundred plus and then you look at the stat line 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:04.760 and you dish out seven dimes. In the process, you're 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:07.760 also getting everybody else involved. And remember that was a 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:12.040 lot of that game without Eli at Boston, so probably 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:17.880 even more magnified in that case if she were to 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:24.840 play the entirety of the game. But to me, even 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:27.360 above that and how they're playing it again, I think 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:29.560 that was the signature game we've made. Been asking whether 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:31.600 or not they're going to turn the corner or whatever 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:35.400 cliche sports wise you want to use for a team 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:38.800 that hasn't lived up to expectations and now you believe 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:42.760 it's time to do so. But what I love about 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:47.840 it is it quittes everybody down. And what I like 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:51.920 most about Caitlin Clark is is what she says. Now, 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:54.280 you guys, some of you guys like her when she's 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:57.800 one of ten from thirty feet, that's not my favorite thing. 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:00.680 My favorite thing is somebody that it just goes out 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:04.360 there and wants to play and wants to compete. Now, 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:07.560 in situations on the floor, you don't want to get 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:10.280 that next technical because you don't want to compromise yourself 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:12.840 for a game. You just don't. You're way, way, way 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:19.040 too important. However, the fight, the competing, that's what I love, 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:22.240 and the fact that you just concentrate on basketball living 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:26.760 in the WorldWind of jack assery that surrounds everything that 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:30.720 she does. And the best part about what took place 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:33.520 on Tuesday night in that game in Seattle and again 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:36.320 hopefully that's carry over to tonight because they got a 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:38.680 big one coming up on Sunday, I mean a large one, 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:43.920 is that it squashes so much of that ridiculous, dumbass 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:48.080 dialogue that we have to go through constantly. All the 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:52.080 other stuff, and I'm talking about the stuff that is 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:56.080 on the fringe, not even basketball related, or the stuff 0:16:56.320 --> 0:17:01.600 regarding Kaitlin Clark and her teammates and her head coach. Hey, 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:05.560 I get it. I get that the WNBA is at 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:07.600 times will be jacking around to the point where you go, 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:10.600 what are you guys doing? But when it comes down 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:13.479 to basketball and has played like that, that's exactly what 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:15.760 you want to see, Kim. They be better defensively, there's 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:19.680 no question about it, improving of the categories that they 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:23.000 struggled early in the season or earlier in the season 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:27.520 when the ward is good. Turnover category and they beat 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:29.720 a team on Tuesday night that turned the build over 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:36.159 four times, Seattle turned it over four times. So turnovers defense, 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:41.400 which has to improve still, and then fouling not fouling 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:45.959 as much. Those are situations that absolutely have to improve. 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:49.840 I think that coincides with the improvement of this team. 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:52.040 I think her health and the way that she feels 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:54.600 coincides with the way this team plays. And then I 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:57.480 think when they play that well, it squashes so much 0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:01.600 of that crap that has to be absolutely exhausting. There's 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:03.720 not a lot of things I talk about in what 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:07.359 I do in terms of well that's exhausting to me, 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:11.840 because listen, I'm not working at Jackhammer. I'm not out 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:15.040 of the fields working, I'm not putting up pay, I'm 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:17.280 not doing anything like a lot of you do on 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:20.080 a daily basis out there. So there's really nothing I'm 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:23.280 exhausted about. Yeah, I'm sitting here in a chair yip 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:26.560 yapping about sports right now. That's not exhausting. I don't care. 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:29.800 Regardless of what you're talking about. I'm not exhausted by it. 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:35.480 But it does tend when it's rapid fire and it's constant, 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:38.960 and you're the one of the crosshairs and you're the 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:41.720 one that's constantly being talked about. Even if you don't 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:47.200 pay attention, I mean, it does. It comes across your 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:51.840 desk more than you think. Because we just can't get 0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:54.119 out of the way. I mean, hell, I'd like to 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:56.800 think that this X account that I have would be 0:18:56.840 --> 0:18:59.600 able to keep me from reading all these jackass political 0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:03.080 things here because there's something I'm going to go to 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:09.359 it right now, Caleb, it says hey for you, let 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:12.200 me tell you this. With all due respect to Andrew Ireland, 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:14.080 I don't give two craps what he says. I don't 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:16.719 know what that's not for me? Was it on there? Well, 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:18.760 you know what I mean, And nothing against him. I'm 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:21.560 just using him as an example or I don't care 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:24.240 what Micah Beckwood has to say, but all of a sudden, 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:26.720 it's for me. What I'm trying to tell you is 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:31.120 it is virtually impossible unless you shut it all down, 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:33.680 and I mean all of it down, to get out 0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:36.320 of the way. And what you end up doing when 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:40.480 you play well and you reach or exceed the expectations. 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:45.760 You squash all that dialogue because then you have those 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:49.560 without claws, without fangs that can no longer go and 0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:54.600 try to use you as a tuning fork to hopefully 0:19:54.680 --> 0:20:00.840 get more hits, to get more clicks to your brand. 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:04.080 This isn't my brand. Yeah, well, if your brand is 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:10.399 a jackass, then well done. There's virtually no way to 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:14.239 get around it unless you shut it all down. And 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:17.439 as I mentioned, it's easy for me or you to 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:20.800 sit here and tell them that. I mean, hell, it's easy. 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:24.840 I'm fifty six, what the hell do I care? But 0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:29.600 for somebody in their twenties, and you know, with that 0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:34.760 notoriety all this, it's virtually impossible. But man, you do 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:38.679 yourself and your team such a service when you go 0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:43.760 out there and you just bowl and in the process 0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:48.359 you kick ass and you just bowl more of that, 0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:53.200 hopefully coming up later on tonight. Seriously, you look at 0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:57.000 the lack coming out of the All Star Break, really 0:20:57.040 --> 0:21:00.400 the lack of any criticism, and not everybody, and we're 0:21:00.400 --> 0:21:03.600 talking about Fever fans or Kaitlin Clark fans that go crazy. 0:21:03.920 --> 0:21:07.640 You don't get arrest. You don't get arrest until some 0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:12.199 of these non basketball knowing jackasses don't have anything to 0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:18.920 discuss or talk about. And that's what Tuesday Night did, 0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:22.720 and hopefully that's what tonight does because you got a 0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:25.960 big one. And believe me, the ultimate Gauge and Hoop 0:21:26.240 --> 0:21:31.119 will be coming up on Sunday at one o'clock with 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:38.080 the Minnesota Lynx Olivia Miles, who is a baller. Speaking 0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:43.800 of baller, Caleb Zuver is here now. I want to 0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:46.600 ask you this. So I come in from our pre 0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:49.720 show meeting this time because Nigel, I think, is on vacation. 0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:53.520 Me and Jason Hammer and john Ette Cruz ninety three 0:21:53.560 --> 0:21:56.840 wibc apple of me. Right now, we go for our 0:21:56.920 --> 0:22:00.680 pre show meeting. You said I have stuff to do, 0:22:00.880 --> 0:22:03.040 and then I get back and you look like Zeke 0:22:03.080 --> 0:22:05.760 the cat. The way that you're feeding on some barbecue. 0:22:05.800 --> 0:22:08.359 Where's this barbecue from? Well, I kind of tell the 0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:09.479 audience first. 0:22:09.640 --> 0:22:12.800 The way you like backed away from me as I 0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:15.440 was eating it as I crouched on the ground five 0:22:15.480 --> 0:22:18.639 minutes before the show started made me laugh. It was 0:22:18.720 --> 0:22:22.199 like I was a feral rodent of some sort, just 0:22:22.280 --> 0:22:23.560 non on it. 0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:27.679 Seriously, I thought that was that was a buzzard on 0:22:27.720 --> 0:22:30.680 the side of the road like apossum macarcass I go, 0:22:30.800 --> 0:22:33.960 what are you doing here? You were down on all 0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:36.800 fours like feeding from the bowl. 0:22:37.840 --> 0:22:40.240 I was. It is our friend Nathaniel. 0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:44.040 He has a a buddy named Tony who every Friday 0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:47.600 and Saturday, I believe he cooks some barbecue, has a 0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:50.840 couple side options, and so every once in a while 0:22:50.840 --> 0:22:52.320 on Friday, isn't they don't hit me up like you 0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:53.040 want some barbecue? 0:22:53.040 --> 0:22:54.560 I say yeah every time because it's really good. 0:22:54.640 --> 0:22:57.439 What do we know where they give the guy some props, 0:22:57.840 --> 0:22:58.760 the people some props. 0:22:58.840 --> 0:23:03.200 Yeah, he's he's out and speedway uh in Speedway barbecue. 0:23:03.200 --> 0:23:05.439 Do you know the name? It's he runs it out 0:23:05.440 --> 0:23:11.879 of his backyard. Really, he just barbecue. Holy hell? So 0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:14.800 when did you get this diro foam container that looked 0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:16.240 professional as hell right there? 0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:17.399 They wrap it and everything. 0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:20.119 Yeah, he he buys all that stuff and prepares it 0:23:20.160 --> 0:23:21.280 and puts it together. 0:23:21.000 --> 0:23:22.680 And then I beautiful like a buzzard. 0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:28.199 You tell me buzzard is more of what I was, 0:23:28.280 --> 0:23:30.840 and not a fair o cat. I think buzzard. You 0:23:30.880 --> 0:23:32.760 did say frail cat and that was weird. 0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:40.040 That was hey, By the way, tonight, I am skeptical 0:23:40.119 --> 0:23:43.879 about us hooping on Sunday because there's an old man 0:23:43.880 --> 0:23:47.199 tournament going on at the ARC with a hell of 0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:47.919 a lot of teams. 0:23:47.960 --> 0:23:48.439 I guess. 0:23:49.240 --> 0:23:51.800 So our good friend, our mutual friend that we play with, 0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:55.440 Mike landis put in our text stream this morning, our 0:23:55.520 --> 0:23:58.600 our text group, you know, asking me if I wanted 0:23:58.600 --> 0:24:00.640 to play, and I figured it was to be with him, 0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:02.359 and I go, yeah, i'll play, I'll do it, you know. 0:24:02.400 --> 0:24:04.239 And then I get all hardcore and I go, I'll 0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:09.199 play anywhere, at any time, and I'm flexing, right, And 0:24:09.240 --> 0:24:13.000 then he says, all right, well you're playing. And I'm 0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:15.600 not even playing with him. I'm not playing with anybody 0:24:15.680 --> 0:24:19.320 I know. So there's zero way I'm not going to 0:24:19.359 --> 0:24:21.600 be injured tonight. Now, I guess I'm playing with some 0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:24.520 dudes from Florida that are flying in at nine thirty 0:24:24.560 --> 0:24:25.520 tonight at the ARC. 0:24:25.680 --> 0:24:27.560 It's a primetime tip off, man. 0:24:28.080 --> 0:24:34.160 You know, how incredibly drum I'm going to. I don't 0:24:34.160 --> 0:24:35.679 know if that's a good thing or a bad thing, 0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:38.440 because sometimes it's a good thing. Yeah, but yeah, I 0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:43.840 just go, what nine thirty? But I agreed to play, 0:24:44.960 --> 0:24:48.200 So I'm going to play and there's some dudes from 0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:52.679 Florida and evidently they only had four and like a 0:24:52.720 --> 0:24:55.120 couple of more are coming tomorrow. I can't play tomorrow night, 0:24:55.119 --> 0:24:58.920 obviously because of the Jambi tickover, but I think we're 0:24:58.960 --> 0:25:01.640 going to be the Furious five out there and it's 0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:05.679 all like officials and this is normally. I'm not going 0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:07.480 to suggest this is a case right now. I've never 0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:11.119 been there and played. It's a tremendous facility, and really 0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:14.480 the ARC is a south side facility, as I mentioned yesterday, 0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:20.920 that is so incredibly needed. But history will reflect this always. 0:25:20.960 --> 0:25:26.800 These situations don't end well for me because I don't 0:25:26.880 --> 0:25:32.360 deal well with on court Gus macer like pissing and 0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:36.439 moaning and yelling and yapping. I don't deal well with 0:25:36.480 --> 0:25:39.960 that at all. Like I yap, but I yap about 0:25:40.040 --> 0:25:44.199 me like my yap, I motivate my like I'm cussing me. 0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:47.240 I don't ever get on anybody else, well unless Rick 0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:49.680 Clark's Jerry picking down on the other end. You throw 0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:53.080 it to him. But no, that's the only thing that 0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:57.959 I ever gripe about. And these situations, I hope that 0:25:58.040 --> 0:26:03.679 it's not Gus macer ask because I rinsed out of 0:26:03.720 --> 0:26:07.439 that years ago, so hopefully not that that became nuts. 0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:10.640 It's only five of you. There's no subs oh Man, 0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:14.960 not left, not unless Mike Gut cliffy Cliffe can go 0:26:15.000 --> 0:26:16.240 out and hurt some dudes. 0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:16.800 YEAHO. 0:26:17.400 --> 0:26:19.320 I just think that people should really know, if they 0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:20.639 don't already, that you are. 0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:22.000 You are all about hoop man. 0:26:22.240 --> 0:26:27.000 Love you just at any time you are going to 0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:28.200 take up the opportunity. 0:26:28.840 --> 0:26:30.679 I love it, and part of it is to me. 0:26:31.200 --> 0:26:34.840 And while I love basketball and there's no lion here, 0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:38.679 I love basketball, I also do it because that is 0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:44.000 my workout regimen, my workout regiment because I think running sucks. 0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:47.320 I've always felt that running itself individual running and if 0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:51.919 you do it, good for you. But any time I 0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:54.520 ever had to run in my existence, I had to 0:26:55.119 --> 0:26:57.840 pay the price of a punishment. That's why I was running. 0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:01.800 Thus I've never liked it. Oh yeah, you know, John 0:27:01.920 --> 0:27:04.480 got bad grades. He's got to run. Hey, John was 0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:06.720 out too late, He's got to run. Well, John did 0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:09.240 this in practice, He's got to run. John. It was 0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:11.840 always me having to run and somebody else telling me 0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:15.600 that I had to run. So I think running sucks. 0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:18.880 I think running. I view running and my son, at 0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:21.760 Ron Colly was across country and a distance runner, and 0:27:21.800 --> 0:27:25.919 I thought I thought that he was a maniac. I go, 0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:28.040 I don't know where this comes from here, but because 0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:31.040 I always preach like this is sucks, this is awful, 0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:34.239 but he did it, and I I don't like it. 0:27:34.280 --> 0:27:36.200 So this is my workout regiment. And knowing that what 0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:39.000 I got to play on Sunday likely I got to 0:27:39.000 --> 0:27:40.840 get something in this weekend. So it's going to be 0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:42.520 tonight at nine thirty at the Arc. 0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:44.520 You run the floor, though. 0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:48.159 I run run the floor. I four well. And the 0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:52.439 thing that I've noticed too, especially younger, that's what you 0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:54.600 have to do when I play against because how old 0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:58.080 are you? Say, I'm fifty six and a half. So 0:27:58.240 --> 0:28:00.359 you have to do that against the younger generation. And 0:28:00.400 --> 0:28:03.439 if you do that against the older generation, they half asset. 0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:08.120 So that's an advantage. I know, half ass. Like Wednesday night, 0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:09.960 there was some half ass in getting back on d 0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:12.919 I wouldn't worry about that one, but no, it and 0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:18.359 the problem is, and I said, hey, I wan't plan 0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:22.320 on a team that runs any old ass half court offense. 0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:25.760 Let's get out and go and the reason being is 0:28:26.119 --> 0:28:28.000 I have to have that on both ends because if 0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:31.040 I spend more than like three seconds defensively, I am screwed. 0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:34.600 I can't guard anybody, nobody. I'm like a half a 0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:37.240 step left and a half a step right, and hopefully 0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:42.320 there's some hopefully there's some help, because I'm blanked. I'm 0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:44.960 completely blanked. I wish I could move. I don't know 0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:48.880 what half of my lateral movement never was incredible, but 0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:51.360 it's awful now. So I don't know what that is about. 0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:56.720 I guess age. I guess lateral movement problematic. But hey, 0:28:56.800 --> 0:28:59.640 shout out again. And the Arc, if you haven't heard, 0:28:59.800 --> 0:29:02.320 is a brand new facility that is opening up on 0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:05.240 the south side, right off of Stone's Crossing and one 0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:08.800 thirty five that is spectacular. And with south siders, you 0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:12.200 understand that this has been a long time coming because 0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:14.360 there have not been a place down there to do that, 0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:17.000 to get stuff going like that. And on the north side, 0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:19.560 you guys have everything. You've got Finch Creek, You've got 0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:21.440 I think it's mojo now, I don't know what it is. 0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:25.000 You got the Pacers facility, you got all those great facilities. 0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:28.280 And now on the south side, you have the arc, 0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:31.560 which is state of the art. I'd be me nine 0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:34.840 thirty later on tonight, and we'll see what type of 0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:40.720 tremendous condition or lack thereof I'm in this evening. All right, 0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:43.080 State Fair passes too. I do want to get to 0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:46.960 the zone. We talked about that a couple of days 0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:51.400 ago with Austin Karp of the Sports Business Journal. This 0:29:51.560 --> 0:29:54.880 is a quick reminder to the Pacers and those involved 0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:57.880 with the decision making, and maybe that decision has already made. 0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:04.720 The zone better be deffordable, because if it's not deffordable, 0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:13.320 then you're going to lose fans. So I hope that 0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:15.960 this is not a situation like the is gonna go 0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:21.280 with it. You're the Colts. This better be a tremendous opportunity, 0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:26.200 and not just any port in the storm. True, And 0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:30.120 this is not just for the Pacers, the Spurs or 0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:33.120 in this as well, the New York teams. The defending 0:30:33.200 --> 0:30:38.120 champs are in this. Stop jacking with the fans, because 0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:40.160 the fans are sick and tired of being jacked with, 0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:46.480 especially monetarily. All right, if you want to spend, spend, 0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:50.920 all right, but there's gonna be a cap on any 0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:54.520 fan base, not just this one. With the amount they spend, 0:30:56.320 --> 0:30:59.640 it better be cost efficient and nothing, and I mean 0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:02.760 nothing the way that it looks at just to the 0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:07.560 eyeballs right like thirty four thirty five dollars a month. Seriously, 0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:11.440 as they say in Southern Indiana, ain't nobody doing that. 0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:15.640 Don't run people off, especially now when there is so 0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:20.560 much promise, so much opportunity, so much interest. Don't run 0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:26.840 people off with a product that's too ridiculously expensive to 0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:30.480 view the content. Talk about that coming up a little 0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:32.480 bit later on too. Zach Kix is going to join us. 0:31:32.480 --> 0:31:34.880 Debbie Antonelli, one of my favorites, is going to be 0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:38.240 on the show Fever Television Analysts, coming up at four thirty, 0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:41.080 and Adam Rittenberg talks college football and the Big Ten 0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:44.600 specifically coming up at the five o'clock. Howur State Fair 0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:47.200 passes as well? That's Caleb, I'm John, thank you for 0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:50.880 joining us. Are we weather active? We do not have 0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:53.920 a weather update. It is clouding up, it is still hot, 0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:57.200 it is still humid, rain and storms on the inbound. 0:31:57.800 --> 0:32:01.080 Consider yourself Weather updated ninety three to five and one 0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:02.160 seven five The Fan. 0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:07.360 The Ride with jmv. 0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:09.200 Oh you got jokes to go along with that ugly 0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:10.320 jumpsy out of yours. 0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:13.480 Notty three five and one oh seven five the fan, 0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:16.440 Damn run I do. Caleb's over there. 0:32:16.480 --> 0:32:20.080 I'm John. Caleb had some backyard barbecue a little bit earlier, 0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:24.040 just literally from somebody's backyard and speedway, but he enjoyed 0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:29.160 it a great deal. Dam v thanks for the good 0:32:29.280 --> 0:32:32.160 laugh opening up the show. I refuse to believe culture 0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:35.040 management of the words. Actions have proven those words to 0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:40.560 be false. That's the other thing, too, is so much 0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:44.880 has been said and so much has not been lived 0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:50.800 up to to this point. You just kind of do 0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:54.200 you remember, though, the moment in Major League? How can 0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:59.280 I put this without offending somebody who knows the moment 0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:04.400 in Major League where they take a shot over the 0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:07.160 press box. Caleb, have you seen the movie Major League? 0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:07.520 Yes? 0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:09.880 And all the riders up there are doing this, and 0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:13.800 you guys can see it right now. This seriously, when 0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:16.600 most of the time when the Colts are talking about 0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:19.800 expectations and what they're going to do, this is exactly 0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:24.240 what everybody's doing. And it's not that you're trying to 0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:27.360 be a jackass. It's not that you're trying to be funny. 0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:29.920 I'm not trying to be funny. I can just tell 0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:33.000 you because I have the pulse of the fan base, 0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:37.480 this is what they believe. That is they ah, yeah whatever, 0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:41.120 And this is not the first year of it. Now 0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:46.240 they do have a little bit to go on. Now 0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:50.800 we'll see coming back from an achilles injury. But the 0:33:50.960 --> 0:33:57.040 offense was exceptional until the quarterback was injured. Now the 0:33:57.120 --> 0:34:03.880 quarterback is coming off an injury. The wide receiver got 0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:10.200 paid and is coming off surgery. There now is going 0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:13.840 to be more knowledge of Hey, that's not Daniel Jones, 0:34:14.080 --> 0:34:17.520 who beat out one of the more inaccurate passers we've 0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:20.400 ever seen draft at number four overall in the NFL 0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:25.839 draft history, and Anthony Richardson, it's more than just that Neil. 0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:30.400 Now there is like even more tape on Daniel Jones 0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:33.879 and Shane Steichen together and how to start that if 0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:37.520 you remember, even before that injury, when they go to Pittsburgh. 0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:40.359 And I know Pittsburgh has always been problematic and likely 0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:43.520 will be again this year, but Pittsburgh looked like that 0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:48.640 they had one hell of a defensive diagnosis. And what 0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:51.960 the culture tried to do a year ago. But there 0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:54.560 are a lot of things you have to overcome. But 0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:58.200 I think I can speak for the fan base out there, 0:34:58.480 --> 0:35:02.280 there's nothing that dal this is your enthusiasm because frankly, 0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:05.799 you're just ready for the season to start. But when 0:35:05.840 --> 0:35:08.239 somebody over there talks about this is what we're gonna do, 0:35:08.280 --> 0:35:10.720 and this is what we believe, you guys are giving 0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:19.080 us the Major League the imitation dolphin flog, this is 0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:24.720 what you're doing, and that the way you get away 0:35:24.719 --> 0:35:33.160 from that is proof is results. Corey writes this, of 0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:36.240 all important things you can learn in high school and college, 0:35:36.280 --> 0:35:39.840 it's alarming how nobody ever lectures on the absence of 0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:44.799 basic lateral movement after the age of thirty five. That's 0:35:44.840 --> 0:35:48.040 so true. I'm thirty eight, and anytime I move laterally, 0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:53.280 my knees sound like jiffy pop. So here's what's funny. 0:35:55.719 --> 0:35:59.440 They always say, when you defensive slide, right, you don't hop, 0:35:59.800 --> 0:36:03.759 you slide. I'm at a point right now where I 0:36:03.800 --> 0:36:08.040 almost can gain more ground when I hop and not slide. 0:36:08.160 --> 0:36:10.600 You guys ever do defensive drills back in the day, 0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:12.600 and hey, you gotta slide. Hey you're hopping. You gotta 0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:17.320 keep your butt down and slide. Yeah, I would always 0:36:17.360 --> 0:36:21.000 be hopping. Thus I would have to be punished and 0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:26.439 then run, another reason why I hate running. But now 0:36:26.480 --> 0:36:28.600 it's almost like I'm gonna go ahead and gain more 0:36:28.640 --> 0:36:30.600 ground if I hop instead of slide. It's kind of 0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:35.400 weird how that happens, but it is, on the other hand, 0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:40.680 incredibly true. Right there. Hey, jam Vy, I understand the 0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:42.759 Colts started out hot last season, but look at the 0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:47.480 first half of the schedule, nothing but cupcakes outside of Denver, Maddy, Matt. 0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:53.040 You can add that to the equation too. There is 0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:57.560 a lot to overcome, and as I've always put it, 0:36:57.640 --> 0:37:02.560 there was just so much of crossing your fingers and 0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:09.000 hoping for the best. Simply put, if they were to 0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:13.720 have first round options, they probably would not be going 0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:20.600 down this path right now. They would have rinsed it 0:37:21.239 --> 0:37:23.880 and started. But you were just kind of forced to 0:37:24.040 --> 0:37:30.080 roll with it. And here you are. And those are 0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:33.160 just facts. That's not anything I'm just making up or 0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:37.920 saying for the sake of saying it. Those are facts. 0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:42.560 Thank you, Greg Harrison for the kind words right there. 0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:46.040 I appreciate that. Hey, back to the Pacers and Desonne 0:37:46.160 --> 0:37:49.880 for a minute. We're not completely concrete sure that that's 0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:53.680 going to be the case. But I would again advise, 0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:57.160 we have a lot of people that look at the 0:37:57.200 --> 0:37:59.960 price tag right now before we know absolutely they think 0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:05.360 and they're not digging it. You got to be really careful, 0:38:07.960 --> 0:38:13.799 really careful. You cannot be running people off. BT writes this, 0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:17.399 I've been and will always be a Pacers fan, fell 0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:19.960 in love with them as a kid of the nineteen seventies. 0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:23.040 If they think for one minute I'm going to pay 0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:26.800 thirty five dollars a month to watch the games, they've 0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:31.760 lost their minds. In my fifty five years a Pacers fandom, 0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:36.439 I've never been this disappointed. Well, I would suggest, I'm 0:38:36.480 --> 0:38:40.839 not sure. Is there anything concrete that suggests that that's 0:38:40.840 --> 0:38:44.120 going to be the price tag that there has to be. 0:38:45.880 --> 0:38:50.040 I'm more financially responsible for your fan base and the 0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:53.640 viewer's way to approach this. There's zero way that you 0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:58.080 can roll that out and expect people to be watching now. Granted, 0:38:58.400 --> 0:39:01.200 I want you to listen to the radio boil, but 0:39:01.719 --> 0:39:07.040 I'll be watching Christen Aar and Quinn and Eddie and JJ. 0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:13.200 We all want to watch. But I would concur with 0:39:13.280 --> 0:39:16.120 the fact that you would not be the only one 0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:22.400 here bt that would be incredibly pissed about it. I 0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:25.280 don't think you could have enough watch parties to satisfy. 0:39:25.400 --> 0:39:28.680 But again, we don't know the context, if indeed that 0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:33.719 is going to be the case just yet. So I 0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:37.520 guess what I'm saying is we'll worry about that when 0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:43.680 it's significant enough to worry about. But I would agree 0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:47.680 with you, there's no and I mean no way, no way, 0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:52.680 anybody's gonna pay that. I don't blame you. And think 0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:56.799 about it right now, Remember when cutting the cord was 0:39:57.160 --> 0:40:01.839 financially responsible, and now you find yourself, well, I gotta 0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:04.160 have this straight. I gotta have this, this app, bad app, 0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:09.040 nineteen different apps. I'm an idiot because of how much 0:40:09.040 --> 0:40:14.400 I pay for direct TV. But at the same time, 0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:19.200 what it has delivered so far for my simple taste 0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:24.080 is the things that I have to or want to 0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:30.400 watch are right there, and it ensures I didn't have 0:40:30.440 --> 0:40:32.480 to pay an extra thirty five dollars a month for 0:40:32.680 --> 0:40:34.680 the reason I pay. I have all of the movie 0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:37.520 channels in hell, I never watch them. I've got like 0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:42.880 MGM at home. I have all these movie channels. I 0:40:43.000 --> 0:40:46.040 watch the same damn thing every day. I don't know 0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:48.279 why I have all of them. I've got Stars and 0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:51.600 the Movie Channel and whatever show Time is, and all 0:40:51.640 --> 0:40:58.560 the HBO, all of it, MGM, IFC, Sundance, all of that. 0:40:58.800 --> 0:41:01.920 Hell Sundance does not even exist anymore as a festival, 0:41:01.920 --> 0:41:04.200 I don't think, but it's still a channel, right, Sundance 0:41:06.040 --> 0:41:11.680 got all of it. I found myself last night. I 0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:15.840 got home and I watched until I fell asleep after 0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:21.440 a handful of melatonin, which I do not advise. I 0:41:21.480 --> 0:41:25.839 was watching Two and a Half Men on IFC, and 0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:27.960 if you check around, two and a half Men are 0:41:27.960 --> 0:41:31.279 on like nineteen different channels at various moments over the 0:41:31.280 --> 0:41:37.719 course of the day every time. All right, so Seattle 0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:41.640 and Vegas are those going to be at some point 0:41:41.840 --> 0:41:46.440 the new NBA teams? How watered down do you think 0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:48.840 that's going to make the product when you add two teams? 0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:51.279 That's a great question, John. 0:41:51.320 --> 0:41:53.879 I think there's a lot of people who think there's 0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:56.319 a real need for expansion, and then there's a lot 0:41:56.320 --> 0:41:59.279 of other people who think it's not gonna. 0:41:59.000 --> 0:42:03.680 Help at all it is. Is it gonna make the 0:42:03.719 --> 0:42:04.680 product worse? 0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:06.920 I don't know. 0:42:07.080 --> 0:42:09.600 Here here's the way I think of it. Like, guys 0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:13.560 that were playing for the Pacers this past year would 0:42:13.600 --> 0:42:16.880 probably be some guys that would maybe find their way 0:42:17.440 --> 0:42:18.880 on expansion teams. 0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:21.080 So normally you have to give up how many players 0:42:21.120 --> 0:42:22.880 make them eligible for a draft. 0:42:22.920 --> 0:42:26.160 You can protect a certain amount before and who knows 0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:28.560 what that number will be if they're adding two who would. 0:42:28.440 --> 0:42:31.399 You would not protect from the pacerss if it were 0:42:31.440 --> 0:42:37.880 to happen right now? I mean, I know exactly what 0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:40.759 everybody's gonna say. They're gonna say Shepherd. And that's why 0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:41.520 that's the first one. 0:42:41.920 --> 0:42:42.560 What Shepherd. 0:42:45.680 --> 0:42:45.759 Like. 0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:48.040 I feel like someone that would be on the fence. 0:42:48.200 --> 0:42:51.000 On the fence would be like a Jerris Walker, Like 0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:53.719 what do you do? Like depending on the number of 0:42:54.040 --> 0:42:56.560 the protect, number of players you can protect, like what 0:42:56.600 --> 0:42:58.560 do you do with him? He might be one that's like, 0:42:58.680 --> 0:43:01.120 oh wow, they actually let him go, But you know 0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:03.759 how you've talked to Chad b cannan, how they feel 0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:05.400 about the court. None of those guys are gonna go. 0:43:06.080 --> 0:43:09.759 And then you start getting out of the nitty gritty now. 0:43:09.680 --> 0:43:13.400 For two years, Yeah, maybe this has got to be 0:43:13.600 --> 0:43:19.400 And again this further magnifies why your television content provider 0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:23.480 has to be top notch because you are so counting 0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:27.920 on these next two years now, and the NBA not 0:43:28.000 --> 0:43:33.600 figuring this out is ridiculous. There's gonna be a point 0:43:33.600 --> 0:43:37.480 in time, and this is everybody included. This is the NFL, NBA, 0:43:37.680 --> 0:43:43.120 Major League Baseball. If they keep you continuously on some 0:43:43.320 --> 0:43:46.400 big turd hunt all the time to find all these games, 0:43:48.719 --> 0:43:50.719 there's gonna be enough people out there to check out 0:43:50.760 --> 0:43:55.600 to where you're gonna notice it. I say this all 0:43:55.640 --> 0:43:59.040 the time about us. You've gotta make sure your club 0:43:59.440 --> 0:44:01.840 is inclusive as possible. 0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:03.920 Oh. 0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:07.200 I preach this in this building constantly. Now I don't 0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:12.120 know if anybody listens, but I'll preach it, but as 0:44:12.360 --> 0:44:18.480 inclusive as possible because there is so much out there 0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:23.439 right now, so much content that's available, out of sight, 0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:27.799 out of mind. Don't want to be that. Let me 0:44:27.800 --> 0:44:30.440 take your break. We'll come back. So Zach kicks locked 0:44:30.440 --> 0:44:32.160 on Colts coming up at the top of the hour, 0:44:32.760 --> 0:44:37.600 magnified how the dudes have to stay healthy on this team, 0:44:37.680 --> 0:44:40.000 and you're talking about a couple of dudes that come 0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:43.600 into the season trying to prove that they can maintain health. 0:44:44.680 --> 0:44:46.720 Zach Kicks Locked on Colts top of the hour, Debbie 0:44:46.719 --> 0:44:50.240 Antonelle is going to join us the Fever television analyst 0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:52.840 The Fever in Portland coming up later on tonight. Debbie 0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:57.080 joins us at four thirty and Adam Rittenberg at five o'clock. 0:44:57.120 --> 0:45:00.000 We'll talk college football, Big ten and more with Adam 0:45:00.320 --> 0:45:03.600 ESPN on ESPN dot com. We have State Fair passes 0:45:03.640 --> 0:45:05.920 and more, but right now, a quick weather update from 0:45:05.920 --> 0:45:06.799 Fox fifty. 0:45:06.600 --> 0:45:14.719 Nine The Ride with JMV. I love winning, man, I 0:45:14.760 --> 0:45:18.480 love winning you. Hear what I'm saying. He's like better 0:45:18.480 --> 0:45:21.480 than losing that. He's three five and one oh seven five. 0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:22.600 The Fan. 0:45:24.239 --> 0:45:28.080 Colts Conversation Zach Hicks of Lucked on Colts coming up 0:45:28.080 --> 0:45:33.239 at the top of the hour, text line comment three 0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:35.800 p one seven two, three, nine, ten seventy. Right now, JMV, 0:45:35.840 --> 0:45:38.200 people are losing their minds over thirty five dollars a 0:45:38.200 --> 0:45:40.920 month to watch the Pacers while walking into Starbucks for 0:45:40.960 --> 0:45:44.320 an eight dollars coffee without blinking. First of all, the 0:45:44.400 --> 0:45:46.840 problem you're gonna have is if people go I'm not 0:45:46.960 --> 0:45:49.240 jacking around with an eight dollars cup of coffee anymore, 0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:53.719 so I'm not going there That's what I'm telling you. Hey, 0:45:53.719 --> 0:45:55.400 maybe I'm gonna go to Speedway and get it for 0:45:55.400 --> 0:45:58.279 a dollar and a half. Maybe I'm gonna bring my own. 0:45:58.960 --> 0:46:05.839 Maybe I'm not even gonna drinking anymore. It's about six 0:46:06.000 --> 0:46:08.359 fourteen a game. If it's worth it, buy it. If 0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:11.120 it's not, don't. But let's not pretend this is the 0:46:11.160 --> 0:46:14.040 financial crime of the century. I'm not trying to turn 0:46:14.120 --> 0:46:17.440 this Jr. Into the financial crime of the century. I 0:46:17.480 --> 0:46:21.600 am trying to maintain a level of you do not 0:46:21.760 --> 0:46:26.239 want to lose your fan base. There are a lot 0:46:26.239 --> 0:46:30.520 of ways you can do that, and riding them on 0:46:30.640 --> 0:46:38.360 a content driven price tag is one of those significant pieces. 0:46:38.440 --> 0:46:43.440 That's all I'm saying. Maybe it is listen, and that's 0:46:43.440 --> 0:46:46.239 why I've also stated, we have no idea. We don't 0:46:46.239 --> 0:46:47.759 know what it's going to look like. We don't know 0:46:48.040 --> 0:46:52.800 if this is true or if it's false. So I 0:46:52.840 --> 0:46:57.880 have said eight we'll stay chilled, but I will advise 0:46:58.600 --> 0:47:04.120 that this has to be financially responsible for people. You 0:47:04.200 --> 0:47:07.399 have a two year window right here, and then who 0:47:07.480 --> 0:47:10.520 knows what the hell happens after that. You got a 0:47:10.520 --> 0:47:13.080 lot of decision making on what people are going for 0:47:13.120 --> 0:47:17.319 their content for anything right now. You cannot jack with 0:47:17.400 --> 0:47:24.920 the fan base. That's all I'm saying. Kirk writes this 0:47:26.000 --> 0:47:30.200 inclusive question mark, would that be getting a signal more 0:47:30.239 --> 0:47:33.680 than ten miles from downtown? The fan is missing reaching 0:47:33.719 --> 0:47:36.280 people having to go to YouTube more on an app 0:47:36.360 --> 0:47:41.479 is not inclusive. The old ten seventy was great for it, Kirk, 0:47:41.520 --> 0:47:45.520 I would advise, what do you think I argue about, 0:47:45.640 --> 0:47:48.480 by the way, what I argue about on the air 0:47:48.680 --> 0:47:52.800 all the time against my boss's wishes, What do you 0:47:52.800 --> 0:47:59.520 think that is? That's me. It's not your imagination, it's me. 0:47:59.800 --> 0:48:08.120 That's what I do. I preach about this constantly. No, 0:48:08.280 --> 0:48:12.000 I completely understand. Oh yeah, don't factor in when it rains. 0:48:12.040 --> 0:48:20.080 By god, it's me and nobody wants me to, but 0:48:20.200 --> 0:48:26.000 I feel compelled to because I understand. And that's my point. 0:48:26.440 --> 0:48:31.440 You have to be easy. If it's a pain in 0:48:31.480 --> 0:48:35.279 your ass, you're going to bail. That's significant to me 0:48:35.520 --> 0:48:38.400 because they're a way, and I mean, way too many 0:48:38.440 --> 0:48:42.560 other options out there, and my dumb ass will run 0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:45.160 you off anyway. So it's not like I need some 0:48:45.400 --> 0:48:48.200 bad signal to run somebody off because I'm an idiot. 0:48:54.000 --> 0:48:57.560 I completely understand. Listen, I'm an advocate here for it. 0:48:58.760 --> 0:49:03.080 I don't like it. I can't sit here and not 0:49:03.120 --> 0:49:06.600 tell you the truth about stuff. And that certainly is 0:49:06.640 --> 0:49:09.880 the top of the list. But that is what I 0:49:09.920 --> 0:49:13.560 preach about, as I mentioned earlier, down the hole all 0:49:13.920 --> 0:49:19.000 of the time. Thank you, Kirk. All right, Zach Kicks 0:49:19.040 --> 0:49:21.200 coming up at the top of the hour lockdown. Colts 0:49:21.200 --> 0:49:23.279 the first time on with me. He's been on this 0:49:23.360 --> 0:49:26.600 show before, all my fellas. I'm ready. Oh look, we've 0:49:26.640 --> 0:49:28.760 got the whole heat hal gang out there in the hallway. 0:49:29.160 --> 0:49:32.239 We've got a during the show meeting coming up at 0:49:32.239 --> 0:49:34.839 the four o'clock hour, Zach Kicks. On the other side, 0:49:34.840 --> 0:49:37.560 Debbie Antonelli, the fever analyst, is going to join us. 0:49:37.600 --> 0:49:39.439 Bottom of the hour ninety three five one oh seven 0:49:39.520 --> 0:49:45.319 five The Fan the ride with JMV. This is how 0:49:45.360 --> 0:49:47.239 I eat corner of the cob. I boil it, I 0:49:47.320 --> 0:49:49.960 go shirtless out of my back deck, eat it like 0:49:50.040 --> 0:49:53.400 I ravage it, and then throw the cob out into 0:49:53.440 --> 0:49:54.319 the back forty that. 0:49:54.440 --> 0:49:57.319 He three five and one oh seven five The Fan. 0:49:58.560 --> 0:50:01.479 Well, I love Jonathan, I mean he he's I'm really 0:50:01.520 --> 0:50:03.399 proud of the leader that he's become on our team 0:50:03.440 --> 0:50:05.880 and he's one of our pillars. His pictures on the 0:50:05.920 --> 0:50:09.440 stadium for a reason, and I would love it if 0:50:09.480 --> 0:50:10.560 he would be a cult for life. 0:50:12.360 --> 0:50:16.560 Carly ERSA. Gordon a little bit earlier today at Coach 0:50:16.640 --> 0:50:21.480 Camp drop light in Westfield at Grant Park. I'll be 0:50:21.640 --> 0:50:25.080 up there on the twentieth. And here's what's interesting, right, 0:50:25.200 --> 0:50:28.680 I'm gonna get to the comment regarding Jonathan Taylor and 0:50:29.000 --> 0:50:31.359 his mood, which is kind of interesting too. We'll get 0:50:31.400 --> 0:50:34.080 to that coming up at a minute. But I know, Caleb, 0:50:34.120 --> 0:50:36.399 you said our next guest is going to be in 0:50:36.440 --> 0:50:40.800 town when next week's week? Yeah, so he's in Maryland. 0:50:40.840 --> 0:50:44.320 That's his home base is in Maryland. Correct, Virginia close 0:50:44.400 --> 0:50:49.160 on ID you Eastern seaboard. Here's what's funny about it. 0:50:49.480 --> 0:50:51.480 His ass is going to be there before mine. How 0:50:51.480 --> 0:50:53.239 about that. I don't get up there until August the 0:50:53.280 --> 0:50:58.680 twentieth on the Anymore Automotive Group potline, the first time 0:50:58.719 --> 0:51:01.520 he's been on with me. Has been on here a 0:51:01.600 --> 0:51:04.440 multitude of times throughout the station, but in the afternoon. 0:51:04.800 --> 0:51:07.760 I know Derek Schultz, his partner on Locked On Colts, 0:51:08.120 --> 0:51:11.279 more than occasionally has had him on. Zach Hicks from 0:51:11.280 --> 0:51:13.680 Locked On Colts kind enough to join us now again 0:51:13.760 --> 0:51:16.399 on the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline. So you're gonna 0:51:16.440 --> 0:51:20.240 beat me here to camp coming from Virginia. That's not good. 0:51:21.680 --> 0:51:22.480 Yeah, man, we got to. 0:51:22.480 --> 0:51:23.000 Get out there. 0:51:23.280 --> 0:51:25.080 We got to get you out there a little bit earlier, man. 0:51:25.120 --> 0:51:26.480 But now it's all good as long as you get 0:51:26.520 --> 0:51:28.680 to see a couple of practices, and then I think 0:51:28.880 --> 0:51:29.680 there's no issue with it. 0:51:29.800 --> 0:51:29.920 Right. 0:51:29.960 --> 0:51:31.799 You need a couple to really get a feel for things. 0:51:31.800 --> 0:51:33.920 Oh, it'll be great. They love yeah, they love it. 0:51:34.080 --> 0:51:34.279 Yeah. 0:51:34.680 --> 0:51:36.840 Yeah, Chris will come sit right next to him and 0:51:36.880 --> 0:51:39.840 we'll have some dialogue for a while. We'll be thoroughly 0:51:40.000 --> 0:51:43.640 enjoying that moment. I'm sure, Zach. But you're getting here 0:51:43.719 --> 0:51:45.640 next week. I think you guys do a great job. 0:51:45.719 --> 0:51:48.799 You and Jake do a great job on breaking things down. 0:51:49.000 --> 0:51:51.560 I'm going to start right here and then get off 0:51:51.600 --> 0:51:53.319 to some of the points I know you've made in 0:51:53.360 --> 0:51:58.719 the past. I mention the attitude if you will right now, 0:51:58.880 --> 0:52:02.640 Jonathan Taylor. J Taylor looks like a dude that's coming 0:52:02.680 --> 0:52:06.239 to an end of the contract, that believes that it's 0:52:06.280 --> 0:52:08.799 not going to be the end of his deal, that 0:52:08.920 --> 0:52:11.239 something is in the works here. Is that how it 0:52:11.280 --> 0:52:11.880 feels to you? 0:52:13.560 --> 0:52:14.839 Yeah, it definitely does. 0:52:14.880 --> 0:52:17.040 I mean we it's kind of funny because we have 0:52:17.239 --> 0:52:19.359 the experience of a couple of years ago, right where 0:52:19.480 --> 0:52:22.800 like all of that drama that we had with it 0:52:22.840 --> 0:52:25.239 coming into twenty twenty three, the culture coming off such 0:52:25.239 --> 0:52:28.240 a rough season and their star running back was wanting 0:52:28.239 --> 0:52:30.640 a new contract and it was just a weird spot 0:52:30.840 --> 0:52:34.920 that everybody was in and it was pretty played throughout 0:52:34.920 --> 0:52:37.360 the media and played throughout everything at all of camp, 0:52:37.360 --> 0:52:39.840 and it took a while to get that contract done. 0:52:40.120 --> 0:52:43.280 So there was speculation throughout, you know, all media spheres 0:52:43.320 --> 0:52:46.920 this offseason, like could we see another Jonathan Taylor hold out? 0:52:46.960 --> 0:52:49.080 He's done it in the past, it worked for him 0:52:49.280 --> 0:52:52.160 in the past, and now he's coming off like the 0:52:52.200 --> 0:52:55.920 most productive season he's had since twenty twenty one, and 0:52:56.520 --> 0:52:57.960 you know, he would have been in his right kind 0:52:58.000 --> 0:53:00.440 of to hold out and want more money for you know, 0:53:00.480 --> 0:53:03.000 for lack of a better term there. But yeah, it 0:53:03.000 --> 0:53:05.800 looks great like he's out there, he's smiling, he's practicing. 0:53:06.440 --> 0:53:08.279 It looks like he's really happy with where he's at. 0:53:08.880 --> 0:53:11.279 He's talked about it, and Chris Ballard's talked about it, 0:53:11.440 --> 0:53:13.840 and Carlier Sir Gordon's talked about it that they feel 0:53:13.840 --> 0:53:15.000 good with the direction. 0:53:14.920 --> 0:53:16.000 Everything's going with it. 0:53:16.160 --> 0:53:18.759 So it does seem like there have been some really 0:53:18.760 --> 0:53:22.960 good conversations behind the scenes about them progressing towards potentially 0:53:23.040 --> 0:53:26.680 a new deal and hopefully getting that done. So definitely 0:53:26.680 --> 0:53:28.520 a much better place than what it was last time 0:53:28.560 --> 0:53:31.760 we had these conversations where there was like trade request 0:53:31.880 --> 0:53:35.160 and all these things going out there publicly. Now it 0:53:35.160 --> 0:53:38.120 feels like everyone's back to business, which is especially cool 0:53:38.120 --> 0:53:41.040 because like we're seeing running backs across the league holding 0:53:41.080 --> 0:53:43.880 in right now, right like Bijon Robinson, Jamir Gibbs, and 0:53:44.719 --> 0:53:47.319 it's a popular thing and Taylor seems to be in 0:53:47.320 --> 0:53:49.640 a good place right now, so it's great to see. 0:53:49.719 --> 0:53:50.480 It's great for everyone. 0:53:50.520 --> 0:53:52.799 It's great for the fans because nobody likes, you know, 0:53:53.040 --> 0:53:54.960 seeing that stuff throughout the off season. 0:53:55.080 --> 0:53:57.720 So really good sign for the Colts going forward. 0:53:57.719 --> 0:54:00.359 What do you make of the major power moves being 0:54:00.760 --> 0:54:04.520 now executed by running backs right because it wasn't so 0:54:04.640 --> 0:54:07.239 long ago when it was just more than an afterthought 0:54:07.280 --> 0:54:08.080 than anything else. 0:54:09.160 --> 0:54:11.080 Yeah, I mean I think if you're looking at purely 0:54:11.120 --> 0:54:14.480 from the player perspective, I mean, these guys their bodies, 0:54:14.520 --> 0:54:16.080 most of them, most of them out, all of them. Right, 0:54:16.080 --> 0:54:18.200 Derek Henry is still going strong and he could probably 0:54:18.280 --> 0:54:21.080 keep playing until he's fifty at this point, but most 0:54:21.120 --> 0:54:23.880 of these running backs their bodies break down kind of 0:54:23.880 --> 0:54:27.120 in the late twenties early thirties. So really the first 0:54:27.120 --> 0:54:29.640 contract they're going to get, like the first big contract 0:54:29.680 --> 0:54:32.799 after the rookie deal, could be like their only big 0:54:32.840 --> 0:54:35.160 contract in the league. And we saw it in the 0:54:35.200 --> 0:54:37.920 past where like Le'Veon Bell for instance, tried to make 0:54:37.960 --> 0:54:40.520 that stand kind of by himself, like he tried to 0:54:40.560 --> 0:54:43.040 be the you know, doing the big holdout thing and 0:54:43.680 --> 0:54:45.880 trying to fight for more money, and it kind of backfired. 0:54:46.000 --> 0:54:48.719 So you really need like groups of guys to come 0:54:48.760 --> 0:54:51.600 together and kind of work on it together. 0:54:51.360 --> 0:54:52.759 To like earn that higher pay. 0:54:53.560 --> 0:54:55.600 And I have no doubt that, you know, Robinson and 0:54:56.320 --> 0:55:00.280 Gibbs will certainly get more than expected, just be because 0:55:00.320 --> 0:55:02.120 they are kind of standing in it together like that. 0:55:02.320 --> 0:55:04.120 So I think it's good for the guys. 0:55:04.120 --> 0:55:05.840 I mean, people can argue if it's smart for the 0:55:05.840 --> 0:55:09.480 teams and whatnot with positional value, but it's really their 0:55:09.480 --> 0:55:12.160 only chance to get their one big contract, whereas like 0:55:13.040 --> 0:55:15.440 quarterbacks are going to get multiple big contracts. They're going 0:55:15.520 --> 0:55:19.080 to see receivers getting two big contracts in the league, 0:55:19.080 --> 0:55:20.839 linemen getting two big contracts. 0:55:20.840 --> 0:55:23.040 So running backs you really just get the one. 0:55:23.160 --> 0:55:26.719 So I mean it makes sense personally to really maximize 0:55:26.719 --> 0:55:28.880 your value on that one contract. 0:55:28.560 --> 0:55:33.239 Does the market itself at that position now justify it 0:55:33.320 --> 0:55:35.880 more than it did, for examples, at five or so 0:55:36.000 --> 0:55:36.439 years ago. 0:55:37.480 --> 0:55:39.719 Yeah, it's interesting because if you look at it, like 0:55:39.800 --> 0:55:42.080 five years ago, we started to see this huge trend 0:55:42.120 --> 0:55:45.000 in the NFL where everything was becoming so pass first. 0:55:45.080 --> 0:55:49.239 Right defenses were getting eviscerated. Like when Tat Mahomes came 0:55:49.239 --> 0:55:51.719 home the scene like five six years ago, he threw 0:55:51.760 --> 0:55:55.000 for what fifty touchdowns five thousand yards and that was kind. 0:55:54.880 --> 0:55:55.400 Of the norm. 0:55:55.440 --> 0:55:57.800 You know, there was all these like huge passing totals 0:55:58.120 --> 0:56:02.120 and running backs were becoming like the auxiliary positions just 0:56:02.160 --> 0:56:04.880 to filter out the side stuff with quarterbacks. But in 0:56:04.880 --> 0:56:07.200 the last couple of years, we've seen this trend towards 0:56:07.239 --> 0:56:10.640 like under center football play. We're seeing more running of 0:56:10.680 --> 0:56:13.600 the football, more twelve and thirteen personnel like tight ends 0:56:13.600 --> 0:56:15.920 on the field, and we're seeing like the value of 0:56:16.000 --> 0:56:18.080 running back kind of creep up a little bit more. 0:56:18.360 --> 0:56:19.239 Maybe it's not what. 0:56:19.160 --> 0:56:21.959 It was like in the early two thousands, right where 0:56:22.040 --> 0:56:25.319 like the Shawn Alexanders and Edge and all them, like 0:56:25.360 --> 0:56:27.800 we're really dominant and you want to pay those guys 0:56:27.800 --> 0:56:30.600 and really get them going. But it definitely seems like 0:56:30.680 --> 0:56:33.080 running back value is in a better place right now 0:56:33.400 --> 0:56:35.320 than what it was like five six years ago, and 0:56:35.360 --> 0:56:37.480 teams are seeing the value. And I mean, look, the 0:56:37.560 --> 0:56:39.360 Chiefs went out there and paid big money to a 0:56:39.480 --> 0:56:42.640 free agent running back this offseason, and they've always kind 0:56:42.640 --> 0:56:44.000 of been at the forefront of a lot of things. 0:56:44.040 --> 0:56:46.120 So I think it's good for running backs, you know, 0:56:46.200 --> 0:56:47.799 I think their value is starting to come back a 0:56:47.800 --> 0:56:50.680 little bit where teams are seeing the value of like, hey, 0:56:50.719 --> 0:56:52.799 maybe you don't want to give them that third contract, 0:56:52.800 --> 0:56:55.640 but getting that running back on that second contract and 0:56:55.640 --> 0:56:56.920 throughout their rookie deal can be. 0:56:56.880 --> 0:56:59.200 A lot of value for your offense. So it's good 0:56:59.239 --> 0:56:59.480 for him. 0:56:59.480 --> 0:57:02.520 I mean especially you know, growing up and running backs 0:57:02.520 --> 0:57:04.920 were so vital. It was kind of sad seeing them 0:57:04.960 --> 0:57:06.920 go out of flavor there for a little bit, and 0:57:06.960 --> 0:57:08.719 now we're seeing the league trying to get back to 0:57:09.040 --> 0:57:11.000 run the football a little bit more so as like 0:57:11.000 --> 0:57:13.120 a football purist, you know, it's it's kind of fun 0:57:13.160 --> 0:57:13.680 seeing it. 0:57:13.680 --> 0:57:16.360 You know, it's funny as a football purist too, and 0:57:16.440 --> 0:57:19.200 a long time enjoyer like me and even older I'm 0:57:19.320 --> 0:57:22.160 assuming a lot older than you. I remember there a 0:57:22.200 --> 0:57:25.080 time when you know, the running back was on the 0:57:25.200 --> 0:57:29.640 level of the quarterback in terms of interest, and like 0:57:29.640 --> 0:57:32.720 like the Walter Payton's of the world. You had Walter 0:57:32.760 --> 0:57:37.600 Payton obviously oversettled everybody in Chicago, but Tony dor said 0:57:37.600 --> 0:57:42.040 in Dallas was much much greater when he got into 0:57:42.040 --> 0:57:44.640 the league, over Roger Staubach. I mean, it was just interesting, 0:57:44.920 --> 0:57:49.000 you know, frank O, Harris, Terry Bradshaw. That dynamic had 0:57:49.040 --> 0:57:52.560 always been very tight, if there was a race of 0:57:52.640 --> 0:57:56.240 sorts back then. And it kind of to me seems 0:57:56.280 --> 0:57:59.760 like that that position is growing in interest now, certainly 0:57:59.880 --> 0:58:02.840 more than just being well, we'll just kick the tires 0:58:02.880 --> 0:58:04.760 on somebody right here, we don't really care who is 0:58:04.840 --> 0:58:07.560 back there. It seems like there's more interest and more 0:58:07.560 --> 0:58:09.880 of a focus on that position now than there has 0:58:09.920 --> 0:58:10.920 been in recent history. 0:58:11.960 --> 0:58:13.640 Yeah, no, for sure. I mean when you look back 0:58:13.640 --> 0:58:15.120 in like the eighties and nineties and. 0:58:15.120 --> 0:58:18.200 Especially before that too, how often we're running back going 0:58:18.240 --> 0:58:20.919 like first overall right in the draft, Like running backs 0:58:20.920 --> 0:58:23.880 are going very high in the draft. And now you know, 0:58:23.920 --> 0:58:25.840 we get all the analytics saying like, oh man, if 0:58:25.880 --> 0:58:28.000 you take a running back top ten, they better be 0:58:28.120 --> 0:58:30.960 super good because they're getting paid so much, and there 0:58:31.040 --> 0:58:32.360 is a push and pull to that, like, at the 0:58:32.440 --> 0:58:34.959 end of the day, quarterback right now is. 0:58:34.880 --> 0:58:37.120 Such a valuable position. Like I don't think there's a 0:58:37.160 --> 0:58:38.680 more valuable position. 0:58:38.760 --> 0:58:41.120 In any sport than quarterback, right And I don't think 0:58:41.200 --> 0:58:43.520 running back or any of these positions are really going 0:58:43.600 --> 0:58:45.760 to close the ground too much on that. But I 0:58:45.800 --> 0:58:47.920 do think we have seen a resurgence of running back 0:58:47.920 --> 0:58:50.840 a little bit more where maybe it's not to the 0:58:50.920 --> 0:58:53.240 level of quarterback, but maybe it's getting closer to the 0:58:53.320 --> 0:58:55.920 level of like a top receiver or a top tackle 0:58:56.040 --> 0:58:56.400 or something. 0:58:56.400 --> 0:58:58.440 Again, rather than just being this. 0:58:58.480 --> 0:59:01.800 Complete afterthought that it was from like twenty ten to 0:59:01.880 --> 0:59:05.000 like twenty twenty where running backs were being completely just 0:59:05.040 --> 0:59:06.960 thrown aside and it was like, well, the second we 0:59:07.000 --> 0:59:09.120 have to pay them, let's go get another cheap one 0:59:09.120 --> 0:59:12.360 because they can just replicate the value we need, whereas 0:59:12.720 --> 0:59:14.320 now we're seeing the difference. Like I mean, like the 0:59:14.360 --> 0:59:17.280 Colts last year, they were a pass first offense early 0:59:17.320 --> 0:59:19.920 in games. Like don't get me wrong, but the reason 0:59:19.960 --> 0:59:22.600 why we saw these point totals balloon so much in 0:59:22.640 --> 0:59:25.120 the second half of games is because they were feeding 0:59:25.200 --> 0:59:27.840 Jonathan Taylor and they were boasting one of the best 0:59:27.920 --> 0:59:31.240 rushing offenses that we had seen in recent history. And 0:59:31.360 --> 0:59:33.800 it's not like they had a quarterback also running the 0:59:33.800 --> 0:59:36.320 ball like Jones had some rushing touchdowns in there, but 0:59:36.440 --> 0:59:39.840 so much of it was Taylor being dominant right, Like 0:59:39.880 --> 0:59:42.400 they weren't really distributing the carries to anybody else like 0:59:42.400 --> 0:59:45.320 we've seen from other great rushing offenses like with Lamar 0:59:45.440 --> 0:59:48.320 Jackson and Baltimore, or like Jalen Hurts and Philly. So 0:59:48.880 --> 0:59:51.400 having that great running back can be the difference between 0:59:51.920 --> 0:59:54.840 you know, a great start and looking good or you know, 0:59:54.880 --> 0:59:56.840 being one of the worst teams in the league sometimes, 0:59:56.920 --> 0:59:58.720 especially if you're in the Colts like last year. So 0:59:59.080 --> 1:00:01.480 the Colts are recognized and that's why I think they're. 1:00:01.360 --> 1:00:02.200 Treating Taylor well. 1:00:02.760 --> 1:00:05.960 Hopefully he can continue staying healthy going forward because it 1:00:06.040 --> 1:00:08.960 is risky paying a running back a third time. But 1:00:09.600 --> 1:00:12.560 outliers exist, and Taylor is about to break all the 1:00:12.600 --> 1:00:15.720 franchise rushing records, so you can certainly call him an outlier. 1:00:16.400 --> 1:00:19.600 So keeping happy, keeping going, and hopefully his Colts offense 1:00:19.640 --> 1:00:20.560 can get back on track. 1:00:20.840 --> 1:00:25.280 Loaded with content. It is Locked On Colts the podcast, 1:00:25.360 --> 1:00:29.040 along with Jake Arthur, Derek Schultz, Alan Pinkett, the former 1:00:29.120 --> 1:00:33.760 Notre Dame, Fighting Irish and Nfler among others a part 1:00:33.800 --> 1:00:38.040 of that too, and they update things on a daily basis. 1:00:38.200 --> 1:00:41.120 Zach Hicks joins us from Locked On Colts on the 1:00:41.160 --> 1:00:45.000 Anymore Automotive Group podline. Are you a believer in what 1:00:45.120 --> 1:00:48.520 they have personnel wise right now with this group or 1:00:48.680 --> 1:00:51.080 are you of the belief that the reason why we're 1:00:51.120 --> 1:00:55.520 here is because of that Sauce Gardner trade deadline deal 1:00:55.520 --> 1:00:56.200 of a year ago. 1:00:57.640 --> 1:01:01.000 I firmly believe in Carli or Sig Gordon looking at 1:01:01.000 --> 1:01:03.880 the first half of last season and saying we can 1:01:03.920 --> 1:01:06.560 get back to what we showed early last season. Like 1:01:06.640 --> 1:01:09.720 I do think when you look at how they were successful, 1:01:10.120 --> 1:01:12.120 how they were winning, and I mean even in some 1:01:12.200 --> 1:01:14.280 of their losses, and when they played better teams Like 1:01:14.720 --> 1:01:16.840 that Rams game we all agree probably should have been 1:01:16.840 --> 1:01:18.840 a win if it weren't for a couple of costly mistakes, 1:01:18.840 --> 1:01:22.040 Like they were playing really good football. I don't think 1:01:22.040 --> 1:01:24.720 that this is like Carly saying like, Okay, we need 1:01:24.760 --> 1:01:27.160 to bring back Ballard because we don't want to straddle 1:01:27.680 --> 1:01:30.280 a new GM without a first round pick. I think 1:01:30.320 --> 1:01:33.240 she does believe in what they showed early last season. 1:01:33.360 --> 1:01:35.280 It's just going to be on a very short leach 1:01:35.440 --> 1:01:38.880 because having the end of the season they had, even 1:01:38.920 --> 1:01:41.120 with you know, the quarterback issues, and we've already talked 1:01:41.120 --> 1:01:43.960 about how valuable quarterback is, you just can't have losing 1:01:44.000 --> 1:01:46.680 streaks like that, Like they really needed like one maybe 1:01:46.720 --> 1:01:48.600 two wins down the stretch to get in the playoffs, 1:01:48.600 --> 1:01:51.360 and they couldn't even muster that out with the guys 1:01:51.360 --> 1:01:53.919 that they had. So I like what she said today 1:01:53.920 --> 1:01:55.840 where it's like, look, the mantra this year is find 1:01:55.840 --> 1:01:56.120 a way. 1:01:56.280 --> 1:01:57.040 Things get tough. 1:01:57.080 --> 1:01:59.960 You lose games, but you lose players, but you got 1:02:00.120 --> 1:02:01.640 to find a way to get those wins and get 1:02:01.680 --> 1:02:04.680 into the playoffs. So I do think that like a 1:02:04.720 --> 1:02:07.280 big part of bringing back everything and believing in this 1:02:07.360 --> 1:02:10.040 year is buying that first half of last season. Now 1:02:10.040 --> 1:02:13.240 we'll see if it can materialize. They're really banking on 1:02:13.280 --> 1:02:16.160 a bunch of older players who are coming off some 1:02:16.200 --> 1:02:20.200 injury concerns, and that's certainly scary in the face of 1:02:20.240 --> 1:02:23.040 the NFL. But I do believe that a lot of 1:02:23.080 --> 1:02:26.240 this faith to run it back one more time is like, hey, 1:02:26.800 --> 1:02:28.880 what we were doing early last season was working. There 1:02:28.920 --> 1:02:32.240 was a lot of goods in that and basically when 1:02:32.240 --> 1:02:35.160 we started losing games, we didn't have our quarterbacks, so 1:02:35.400 --> 1:02:37.360 some of the turnover luck one against us, and like, 1:02:37.440 --> 1:02:40.000 let's see how real that first half was, and if 1:02:40.040 --> 1:02:41.720 they missed the playoffs again this year, then you'll have 1:02:41.800 --> 1:02:44.360 your answer. So I do think that was a firm 1:02:44.400 --> 1:02:47.120 belief in this unit, but the belief will run out 1:02:47.160 --> 1:02:49.320 if they missed the playoffs yet again. So yeah, I 1:02:49.320 --> 1:02:51.400 think Carley certainly believes in what they were doing, but 1:02:51.720 --> 1:02:53.240 it's going to be a bit of a shorter reach 1:02:53.280 --> 1:02:54.640 this year than what it was last year. 1:02:54.800 --> 1:02:56.720 So Zach, I'm on the other side of that. I 1:02:56.760 --> 1:03:01.480 think that their decision making was was really pared down 1:03:01.680 --> 1:03:06.000 and compromise because of that deal. And while I'm cool 1:03:06.120 --> 1:03:09.360 with the deal because you saw something that was being 1:03:09.400 --> 1:03:12.000 created in the first part of that season, and then 1:03:12.040 --> 1:03:17.320 obviously the injuries to significant players Daniel Jones certainly compromise 1:03:17.400 --> 1:03:19.440 the remainder of the season. I think if they were 1:03:19.440 --> 1:03:24.000 to have first round options after this past season, that maybe, 1:03:24.440 --> 1:03:26.840 to me, honestly, I think they would be going in 1:03:26.640 --> 1:03:30.160 a different direction. So I don't know. I think you 1:03:30.280 --> 1:03:32.760 kind of have to put on that face right now 1:03:33.240 --> 1:03:35.640 because you're soaking in it, you know what I mean, 1:03:35.680 --> 1:03:38.760 because you really didn't have leverage nor options to deal 1:03:38.800 --> 1:03:41.760 with to change things up, so you have to believe it. 1:03:41.840 --> 1:03:43.880 Hopefully it works out, but I think you have to, 1:03:44.200 --> 1:03:47.360 more than anything else, believe in this product the way 1:03:47.400 --> 1:03:51.480 that it is right now because really adjusting things. It 1:03:51.520 --> 1:03:55.240 was compromised after that trade deadline deal with no first rounders, 1:03:55.240 --> 1:03:56.680 and you really had nowhere else to go. 1:03:57.840 --> 1:04:00.360 Yeah, I mean, I do agree to a certain there 1:04:00.360 --> 1:04:02.720 where it's like, once you make that move, you are 1:04:02.800 --> 1:04:05.160 showing that belief in the process there. I think that's 1:04:05.200 --> 1:04:07.560 what made it kind of more even more devastating in 1:04:07.600 --> 1:04:10.080 the second half of the year, when your starter goes 1:04:10.080 --> 1:04:12.800 down with the torn achilles, your backup was already injured 1:04:12.800 --> 1:04:15.280 in a flute in a freaky injury. Pre game, your 1:04:15.320 --> 1:04:18.040 third string quarterback was dealing with a bit. 1:04:17.880 --> 1:04:20.400 Of an injury. So you just made this huge, like. 1:04:20.440 --> 1:04:24.720 Franchise altering move for a young, former All Pro corner, 1:04:24.920 --> 1:04:27.720 and you traded two first round picks, expecting at least 1:04:27.720 --> 1:04:29.560 the first year of that to be in the playoffs. 1:04:30.000 --> 1:04:32.400 And you can't even manage the one more win down 1:04:32.400 --> 1:04:36.000 the stretch because you're down to a quarterback who's been 1:04:36.000 --> 1:04:38.600 retired for years to come out here and start games 1:04:38.640 --> 1:04:42.160 for you, because it was either him or hampered Riley 1:04:42.240 --> 1:04:45.000 Leonard or the seth again I think was on the 1:04:45.080 --> 1:04:47.240 roster at that point at quarterback, Like it wasn't going 1:04:47.280 --> 1:04:50.960 to be great down the stretch. So do I understand 1:04:50.960 --> 1:04:52.440 what you're saying where it's like they kind of made 1:04:52.480 --> 1:04:55.320 their own dead when they made that trade and you 1:04:55.440 --> 1:04:57.120 kind of have to commit to it this year. But 1:04:57.720 --> 1:04:59.640 part of me thinks, like you make that trade because 1:04:59.640 --> 1:05:02.400 you are so bought in that first happened last year, 1:05:02.480 --> 1:05:05.080 so to fall off of it so much because Philip 1:05:05.120 --> 1:05:07.000 Rivers couldn't win you a couple of games, or Jones 1:05:07.040 --> 1:05:08.720 couldn't win you a couple of games with a broken 1:05:08.840 --> 1:05:11.720 leg like, I don't know if they would have fallen 1:05:11.760 --> 1:05:14.680 that far off, but I totally see your opinion with that, 1:05:14.760 --> 1:05:17.280 where it's like, yeah, I mean they kind of made 1:05:17.280 --> 1:05:17.880 their bed with this. 1:05:18.000 --> 1:05:19.320 I don't know what the right answer was. 1:05:19.400 --> 1:05:21.720 Yeah, you know what, Zach, I don't go too over 1:05:21.760 --> 1:05:24.480 the top. And here's why, because I was down with it. 1:05:24.560 --> 1:05:28.440 I'm okay with the win now mentality because they've basically 1:05:28.480 --> 1:05:32.520 had a win never mentality and right like, the win 1:05:32.680 --> 1:05:35.360 now are running it back. And I say that about 1:05:35.400 --> 1:05:37.560 the Pacers because we're going to deal with that this year. 1:05:38.080 --> 1:05:41.440 There is a basis of results that we have seen 1:05:41.840 --> 1:05:46.840 that would I think define why you have Kevin Pritchard 1:05:46.880 --> 1:05:50.840 and Chad Muchannan wanting to run this core group back 1:05:51.160 --> 1:05:55.360 with the Pacers. But with the Colts it's not that 1:05:55.440 --> 1:05:59.160 way because you know, you go all in and then 1:05:59.160 --> 1:06:01.960 you have that jine and you're screwed for the remainder 1:06:02.000 --> 1:06:04.880 of the season. I get why you want to win 1:06:04.960 --> 1:06:08.160 right now because the results at that level it's been 1:06:08.200 --> 1:06:11.320 few and far between, and it's just kind of the 1:06:11.360 --> 1:06:13.320 same old, same old for the fans. So I don't 1:06:13.320 --> 1:06:15.840 go completely over the top on that. I just kind 1:06:15.840 --> 1:06:18.520 of think they're in a situation in which they created 1:06:18.600 --> 1:06:22.040 because they had belief and maybe it wasn't misguided because 1:06:22.040 --> 1:06:25.360 of the way the offense specifically was playing. But again, 1:06:25.560 --> 1:06:28.840 you didn't have the optionality there at all because of 1:06:28.840 --> 1:06:31.920 the lack of first round deals or I should say, 1:06:32.240 --> 1:06:35.000 first round selections that you had. Thus you're right here, 1:06:35.000 --> 1:06:37.600 But again I understood it at the time, and I 1:06:37.640 --> 1:06:39.720 still understand it right now. You're just kind of soak 1:06:39.760 --> 1:06:41.080 into the situation itself. 1:06:42.120 --> 1:06:44.000 Yeah, I will say, like, if you had the belief 1:06:44.040 --> 1:06:47.280 in Jones and the offense early last season, I don't 1:06:47.280 --> 1:06:50.520 think anything about the second half of the year lessens 1:06:50.560 --> 1:06:52.600 the belief in Jones outside of the fact that he's 1:06:52.600 --> 1:06:54.600 coming off the Achilles injury now, right, because it's not 1:06:54.680 --> 1:06:57.840 like he threw like twenty picks in like, you know, 1:06:57.920 --> 1:06:59.720 those games, and he was just the worst quarterback in 1:06:59.760 --> 1:07:02.760 the lead. He was hurt, you know, and even in 1:07:02.840 --> 1:07:05.120 like the Texans game for instance, like he was she 1:07:05.160 --> 1:07:07.840 had one of the better performances against the Texans defenses 1:07:07.880 --> 1:07:09.760 than any quarterback in the league last year. Now, it 1:07:09.800 --> 1:07:13.200 wasn't a great game, but nobody played well against Texans, 1:07:13.240 --> 1:07:15.200 so it was kind of it was kind of a 1:07:15.200 --> 1:07:18.320 weird situation for the Colts, and you know, as a fan, 1:07:18.400 --> 1:07:20.440 you kind of think about it in your brain. It's like, 1:07:20.800 --> 1:07:22.640 of course this would happened to the Colts, right, you 1:07:22.680 --> 1:07:25.760 make this big move, going all in, everything's going great, 1:07:25.800 --> 1:07:28.400 and then of course, like you could survive any other 1:07:28.400 --> 1:07:31.160 injury maybe except for the quarterback, right, and the quarterback 1:07:31.200 --> 1:07:34.439 goes down. So you know, if they're feeling good about 1:07:34.440 --> 1:07:36.200 the Jones Achilles injury, I mean, the thing is they 1:07:36.200 --> 1:07:37.959 have to feel good about it though, right, like you said, 1:07:37.960 --> 1:07:39.960 they made their bet. You have to feel good about it, 1:07:39.960 --> 1:07:42.880 Like even if he was not recovering, well, you put 1:07:42.920 --> 1:07:44.960 yourself in a situation where you had to feel. 1:07:44.720 --> 1:07:45.280 Good about it. 1:07:45.360 --> 1:07:48.160 So we'll see when the bullets starts flying this year, 1:07:48.200 --> 1:07:51.000 that'll be the ultimate test. But I do think like 1:07:51.760 --> 1:07:53.360 come the end of this season, I know a lot 1:07:53.360 --> 1:07:55.400 of people have said, Okay, Carler said Gordon didn't make 1:07:55.480 --> 1:07:58.040 him the last offseason, what's to say that she's going 1:07:58.040 --> 1:08:01.720 to after this year. I do think that it really 1:08:01.800 --> 1:08:04.200 is now or never for Ballad and psych in this year. 1:08:04.240 --> 1:08:06.320 I really think they need to win this year or 1:08:06.560 --> 1:08:08.680 they will make some changes, even without the first dround 1:08:08.720 --> 1:08:12.040 pick because you just don't have any excuses at that point. 1:08:12.480 --> 1:08:16.160 Zach Kicks of Lockdown Colts on the Anymore Automotive Group potline. 1:08:16.280 --> 1:08:18.880 Is it weird to you that there's still holes in 1:08:18.920 --> 1:08:21.960 this roster? And I think holes that everybody can see. 1:08:22.200 --> 1:08:25.439 But they sit on this pile of cash and they 1:08:25.520 --> 1:08:28.400 really haven't done. And I know the contractual of a 1:08:28.439 --> 1:08:31.160 lot of situations as to why maybe free agent players, 1:08:31.479 --> 1:08:33.599 you know, don't want to get up off the couch 1:08:33.680 --> 1:08:36.439 right now and start in training camp. But are you 1:08:36.520 --> 1:08:41.880 surprised that, for example, they haven't necessarily significantly addressed something 1:08:41.960 --> 1:08:44.719 like wide receiver to this point, considering how much money 1:08:44.760 --> 1:08:45.000 they have. 1:08:46.560 --> 1:08:49.840 Yeah, a wide receiver, I'm not terribly concerned about, because 1:08:49.880 --> 1:08:53.000 I do think you're in a situation, especially with Shane 1:08:53.000 --> 1:08:56.200 Stiken's like relationship with Keenan Allen for instance, like that 1:08:56.240 --> 1:08:58.519 goes back years. I think you're in a situation where 1:08:58.520 --> 1:08:59.880 you can see what some of these other guys have 1:09:00.479 --> 1:09:02.360 and then if it's just not good enough, then you 1:09:02.439 --> 1:09:04.360 kind of have like he and Allen, he doesn't want 1:09:04.400 --> 1:09:06.200 to sign it early in the training camp. He does 1:09:06.240 --> 1:09:07.880 not want to go through the full training camp at 1:09:07.880 --> 1:09:10.760 this point in his career, so I think that he's 1:09:10.800 --> 1:09:14.160 going to be on speed dial going forward. But I 1:09:14.160 --> 1:09:16.400 think it really comes to my mind with like edge 1:09:16.640 --> 1:09:21.080 right because even though the Chris Baalen them haven't one 1:09:21.120 --> 1:09:23.519 explicitly said that they were getting all their eggs in 1:09:23.560 --> 1:09:26.599 the basket for Trey Hendrickson, it was clear to. 1:09:26.560 --> 1:09:28.559 Everyone that that was who they were going for. 1:09:28.640 --> 1:09:32.200 They wanted Trey Hendrickson, they put so much into recruiting 1:09:32.280 --> 1:09:34.720 him here, and then if it weren't for Baltimore's like 1:09:34.800 --> 1:09:38.479 last ditch whatever they did with Crosby and Hendrickson, then 1:09:38.479 --> 1:09:42.160 Hendrickson maybe would be here right now. And I understand 1:09:42.160 --> 1:09:45.040 swinging big there, but when you don't hit on it, 1:09:46.080 --> 1:09:48.800 I don't know how the backup plan is just two 1:09:48.840 --> 1:09:51.720 day three rookies, you know, is like that's okay, Now 1:09:51.720 --> 1:09:53.960 we have our six edge rushers. And it's like you 1:09:53.960 --> 1:09:56.800 were kind of already acknowledging by going after Hendrickson that 1:09:56.840 --> 1:09:59.639 you needed a big push. And I know the free 1:09:59.680 --> 1:10:02.120 agent class wasn't as great at that point, but there. 1:10:01.960 --> 1:10:04.160 Were still guys out there. There's still guys out there now. 1:10:04.760 --> 1:10:09.120 I just I don't understand the having like just adding 1:10:09.120 --> 1:10:10.920 two Day three rookies and being like, we're good, and 1:10:10.960 --> 1:10:13.720 then Ballard always talking about like Kayden Curry they're super 1:10:13.760 --> 1:10:14.000 high on. 1:10:14.040 --> 1:10:15.320 I'm like, look, if you were super high on, you 1:10:15.360 --> 1:10:17.559 wouldn't have taken him in round six. You would have taken. 1:10:17.439 --> 1:10:20.880 Them earlier than that, So come on, like, you can't 1:10:20.920 --> 1:10:22.920 sell this when you were trying to go get Hendrickson. 1:10:23.040 --> 1:10:24.960 So I think that one's the toughest one for me, 1:10:25.560 --> 1:10:28.519 And that's kind of always been one of my complaints 1:10:28.560 --> 1:10:30.360 with Chris Ballad is just like he has such a 1:10:30.360 --> 1:10:33.519 belief in like the internal process and the guys they 1:10:33.560 --> 1:10:35.960 have here, but we don't have the results to back 1:10:36.040 --> 1:10:36.800 that up, you know. 1:10:36.960 --> 1:10:38.920 And you can even say the same thing about receiver. 1:10:38.720 --> 1:10:41.040 Right, like maybe you want to see a little bit 1:10:41.040 --> 1:10:44.120 of what dueling and Treadwell and Westbrooka Kina can do 1:10:44.200 --> 1:10:46.960 before signing in Allen, But these guys have been in 1:10:46.960 --> 1:10:48.840 the league for long enough to we kind of know 1:10:48.880 --> 1:10:52.120 what they are. Like, They're not going to be superstar 1:10:52.280 --> 1:10:55.479 like starting receivers, right, so why not make a move earlier? 1:10:55.600 --> 1:10:58.600 So yeah, I understand the concerns and the complaints with 1:10:58.640 --> 1:11:00.360 that stuff. Edge Rusher is just the one I can't 1:11:00.360 --> 1:11:02.559 wrap my head around because like, if you really were 1:11:02.640 --> 1:11:06.439 going for Hendrickson, how how can the not getting him 1:11:06.600 --> 1:11:09.160 solution just be well, everyone moves up one and now 1:11:09.200 --> 1:11:11.559 we add these two rookies into the mix. 1:11:11.640 --> 1:11:15.280 Like that such an all or nothing philosophy right there, 1:11:15.320 --> 1:11:16.640 I would see it really is. 1:11:16.720 --> 1:11:17.840 Yeah, yeah it was. 1:11:17.920 --> 1:11:20.760 And Hendrickson signed later in a free agency, right so 1:11:20.800 --> 1:11:22.760 I understand that it puts you a little bit of buying, 1:11:22.800 --> 1:11:25.280 like some of the other top edge rushers weren't still 1:11:25.280 --> 1:11:28.439 available at that point, but there were still other guys 1:11:28.439 --> 1:11:30.519 out there. And that's why I was so against drafting 1:11:30.520 --> 1:11:32.760 two edge rushers. I was like, because then you're going 1:11:32.800 --> 1:11:34.720 to want to keep both of them. And now you're 1:11:34.760 --> 1:11:37.120 up to six edge rushers on the team, and typically 1:11:37.120 --> 1:11:40.400 you keep six, you don't keep seven, So where are 1:11:40.439 --> 1:11:41.559 you adding another edge ruster. 1:11:41.680 --> 1:11:42.599 It's just a weird spot. 1:11:42.640 --> 1:11:44.760 And now so much of it is like we need 1:11:44.840 --> 1:11:47.880 Jalen Tumloau, who barely played last year, to take. 1:11:47.720 --> 1:11:50.200 A big step. We need arden Key, who. 1:11:50.000 --> 1:11:53.599 Has been, you know, a fine rotational guy for nine years, 1:11:53.760 --> 1:11:55.080 to be something he's never been. 1:11:55.400 --> 1:11:57.960 You know, it's a big it's a big ask of 1:11:58.040 --> 1:12:00.639 these guys. So we'll see if it pays off. 1:12:00.640 --> 1:12:03.280 But if I have pessimism anywhere, certainly they aren't that 1:12:03.320 --> 1:12:06.320 other edge rusher position because I mean they kind of 1:12:06.360 --> 1:12:08.520 said what they thought about it when they went for Hendredston. 1:12:09.200 --> 1:12:12.640 It's almost like Zach, that they believe in the secondary 1:12:12.840 --> 1:12:17.200 is so no pun intended here locked down that they 1:12:17.240 --> 1:12:21.400 can afford maybe not to have the maybe have what 1:12:21.439 --> 1:12:25.880 their normal pass rush is. And philosophically speaking, in the 1:12:26.000 --> 1:12:28.680 NFL or really any forms of football, it's almost like, 1:12:28.720 --> 1:12:32.800 and I've described in this fashion best ackwards defensively, you know, 1:12:33.160 --> 1:12:36.280 when you're looking for the playmaking ability and you're stacked 1:12:36.280 --> 1:12:39.320 in the secondary, but your faulty or you have the 1:12:39.400 --> 1:12:43.920 huge question marks upfront off the edge, it is a 1:12:44.000 --> 1:12:47.240 backwards scenario compared to what you normally know. Do you 1:12:47.360 --> 1:12:50.519 believe at all in that? And it kind of seems 1:12:50.560 --> 1:12:53.800 like that that's just again much like this team where 1:12:53.800 --> 1:12:56.839 they are with it because they were forced into this position. 1:12:58.120 --> 1:12:59.880 Yeah, I do think it is a common debate we 1:13:00.040 --> 1:13:02.600 see amongst a lot of football minds, like what is 1:13:02.640 --> 1:13:04.719 more valuable coverage or pass rush? 1:13:04.840 --> 1:13:07.000 And can you even separate the two? Right? 1:13:07.040 --> 1:13:10.400 Because they have this symbiotic relationship where they have to 1:13:10.439 --> 1:13:13.960 work off each other. So I understand where people come 1:13:14.000 --> 1:13:16.320 with that, and I'm not exactly sure where I fall. 1:13:16.439 --> 1:13:18.560 Like I think gun in my head, I'd prefer to 1:13:18.600 --> 1:13:21.360 have the better pass rush than coverage because so much 1:13:21.439 --> 1:13:22.280 is built up front. 1:13:22.320 --> 1:13:24.040 But I think you can find. 1:13:23.800 --> 1:13:27.280 Success by having great coverage and having a pass rush 1:13:27.439 --> 1:13:30.879 by committee, right, Like, if you have such great coverage 1:13:30.920 --> 1:13:33.040 corners and secondary, you can blick a little bit more 1:13:33.040 --> 1:13:35.040 and get the ball out of quarterback's hands and maybe 1:13:35.080 --> 1:13:37.120 that can be your mode to success. 1:13:37.720 --> 1:13:40.800 But I do agree with you where it's like it. 1:13:40.680 --> 1:13:43.040 Does feel a little backwards, especially when the secondary that 1:13:43.080 --> 1:13:45.200 we're banking on, and look, I want this secondary to 1:13:45.280 --> 1:13:47.479 be awesome, I think on paper, Like, if you're just 1:13:47.520 --> 1:13:49.800 looking at it on paper, it can be the best 1:13:49.800 --> 1:13:52.320 secondary of the Colts have had in a long long time. 1:13:52.840 --> 1:13:55.120 But let's be real about it. Saust Gardner missed half 1:13:55.120 --> 1:13:55.639 of last. 1:13:55.479 --> 1:13:57.760 Season with an injury, and he's probably the one we 1:13:57.800 --> 1:14:01.479 feel best about injury wise, right because Dustin Wally missed 1:14:01.479 --> 1:14:05.080 the entirety of last season with an injury and Moody 1:14:05.120 --> 1:14:07.880 Ward is coming off I mean a really rough season 1:14:07.920 --> 1:14:10.760 with the concussions and who knows what his effectiveness is 1:14:10.800 --> 1:14:12.639 going to be. You could even go to the fourth 1:14:12.680 --> 1:14:15.080 corner Cam Taylor Britt missed the last half of last 1:14:15.160 --> 1:14:17.760 year with lisz Frank injury, you know, and all these 1:14:17.800 --> 1:14:21.120 guys are expected to, you know, feel pretty big roles 1:14:21.400 --> 1:14:24.680 or come in and start, and you're the situation where 1:14:24.720 --> 1:14:26.920 they were last year where it's like you feel great 1:14:26.920 --> 1:14:30.040 about corner, but then once the injuries piled up, Xavi 1:14:30.080 --> 1:14:31.880 and Howard was starting games for you, and then you 1:14:31.880 --> 1:14:34.720 don't feel good about corner with the questions you had 1:14:34.760 --> 1:14:37.720 on the defensive line already. So I'm not sure there's 1:14:37.720 --> 1:14:41.080 ever a great solution to combating injuries, right because you 1:14:41.120 --> 1:14:43.400 can't build a roster of fifty three starters. 1:14:43.680 --> 1:14:46.000 It's just not feasible in this league. 1:14:46.040 --> 1:14:48.920 But I do think that putting all your eggs in 1:14:48.920 --> 1:14:52.000 the secondary basket's going to carry your defense when you 1:14:52.040 --> 1:14:54.479 have major questions about injuries, and heck, we haven't. 1:14:54.280 --> 1:14:55.880 Even talked about like Buckner's. 1:14:55.439 --> 1:15:00.439 Injury up front and other injuries like that, Like it's concerning. 1:15:00.200 --> 1:15:01.479 I'd have to keep you on here for a couple 1:15:01.520 --> 1:15:03.720 of hours. I think to address everything, you know, what 1:15:03.760 --> 1:15:04.840 I mean, right right. 1:15:05.280 --> 1:15:07.040 If they could stay healthy this year, they can be 1:15:07.080 --> 1:15:09.519 a really good team. But the injury questions are such 1:15:09.560 --> 1:15:12.719 a big looming cloud right now. That is it's so concerning. 1:15:13.400 --> 1:15:16.200 Before I'll let you go, do you recollect any point 1:15:16.240 --> 1:15:19.280 in time when the philosophy that we're talking about right 1:15:19.320 --> 1:15:21.640 here that they have to go with with the secondary, 1:15:22.000 --> 1:15:25.639 you know, being the overriding playmaking factor over the edge 1:15:25.720 --> 1:15:28.840 rushing up front, where that worked out? Does anything come 1:15:28.880 --> 1:15:29.519 to mind to you? 1:15:30.880 --> 1:15:33.280 I would say the Vikings defense the last few years 1:15:33.320 --> 1:15:36.600 has been a little bit more like resource heavy into 1:15:37.120 --> 1:15:39.120 secondary and more so than like that, like they've never 1:15:39.160 --> 1:15:42.799 had like a huge, great pass rusher like they had Grenard. 1:15:42.800 --> 1:15:44.280 I think the last couple of years is pretty good, 1:15:44.320 --> 1:15:46.439 but they didn't have like that dominant force. They let 1:15:46.479 --> 1:15:49.120 the Neil Hunter walk and they were putting more resource 1:15:49.120 --> 1:15:52.240 in the secondary. But he's chaotic with Howie Blitz is 1:15:52.280 --> 1:15:54.679 there right, he brings six man rushes all the time, 1:15:54.760 --> 1:15:58.080 Ryan forres. So, like, I think you can find success 1:15:58.120 --> 1:16:01.000 that way. It's just the easier mode. The success obviously 1:16:01.120 --> 1:16:05.000 is having those studs up front, so it's tougher. But 1:16:05.400 --> 1:16:07.760 I think there is a way it's just not the 1:16:07.800 --> 1:16:08.679 most repeatable way. 1:16:08.840 --> 1:16:12.080 All right, lockdown Colts. You guys are constantly churning out 1:16:12.080 --> 1:16:14.720 the content for everybody. Tell the folks out there about it. 1:16:15.800 --> 1:16:18.479 Yeah, Locked On Colts our daily show that Jake Arthur 1:16:18.479 --> 1:16:21.600 and I host. It's always great having Jake as the 1:16:21.720 --> 1:16:24.320 co host there because he's at practice every day giving 1:16:24.400 --> 1:16:26.800 us all the infos. So if you guys want a 1:16:26.880 --> 1:16:31.360 daily show that gives you breakdowns on every single practice again, 1:16:31.439 --> 1:16:32.960 for better or for worse, you know, you can learn 1:16:32.960 --> 1:16:34.680 a little bit from practice, Maybe not as much as 1:16:34.720 --> 1:16:35.240 we play it. 1:16:35.200 --> 1:16:37.800 Up, but it is good to hear the information there 1:16:37.840 --> 1:16:38.240 for sure. 1:16:38.760 --> 1:16:40.680 So Jake Gibbs is there and we're actually about to 1:16:40.720 --> 1:16:42.800 record right after we jump off here, so that'll be 1:16:42.920 --> 1:16:44.599 up a little after five today. 1:16:44.880 --> 1:16:47.880 Well done, pal. We'll do this again sometime and when 1:16:47.920 --> 1:16:50.200 you're in and around Indy, you'll have to come out 1:16:50.200 --> 1:16:52.519 to a live show and I'll get you all hammer 1:16:52.560 --> 1:16:56.040 locked while you're talking too. That'll be even better. All right, 1:16:56.040 --> 1:16:59.640 I love it, man, I appreciate you. 1:16:59.760 --> 1:16:59.920 Zach. 1:17:00.080 --> 1:17:04.200 Thanks Palin, Zach cakes right there, I've Locked On Colts. 1:17:04.400 --> 1:17:06.679 He was a little skeptical about answering that one. I think, 1:17:07.680 --> 1:17:10.640 what do you think? The bad influence in me? Always 1:17:10.880 --> 1:17:14.120 it always prevails. Though I feel really confident my bad 1:17:14.200 --> 1:17:17.120 influence technique will prevail always. 1:17:17.160 --> 1:17:19.360 It always does. It always comes out eventually. 1:17:18.960 --> 1:17:22.240 It always does. Quick Break will come Back. Debbie Andtonelly 1:17:22.760 --> 1:17:26.200 Fever television analyst, The Fever and the Fire coming on 1:17:26.320 --> 1:17:29.000 platter Walk at tonight. Debbie talks with us next. 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A little bit earlier, 1:18:06.560 --> 1:18:09.840 Adam Rittenberg of ESPN Top of the Hour Big ten 1:18:10.000 --> 1:18:13.800 College Football Conversation, but joining us now on the Andy 1:18:13.800 --> 1:18:17.320 Moore Automotive Group Hotlines staked out in Portland, Oregon, rating 1:18:17.400 --> 1:18:19.960 for the Fever and the Fire. Later on tonight ten 1:18:19.960 --> 1:18:25.080 o'clock is that Tip Time along with Pat Moylan. Debbie Antonelli, 1:18:25.160 --> 1:18:28.760 one of my favorites joins us now, Debbie, thank you 1:18:28.800 --> 1:18:29.880 for the time. How are you. 1:18:31.400 --> 1:18:31.800 Hey man? 1:18:31.960 --> 1:18:34.640 Listen, thanks for inviting me back. I'm so glad to 1:18:34.680 --> 1:18:36.240 be here, and thank you for your nice words. 1:18:36.439 --> 1:18:40.040 I love to see I'm the biggest basketball fan probably 1:18:40.040 --> 1:18:43.719 outside of yourself, that you're going to find out here. 1:18:43.760 --> 1:18:47.599 And I love I love how you break down the game. 1:18:47.760 --> 1:18:50.840 And I've been really interested to hear what you thought 1:18:50.880 --> 1:18:53.840 about Tuesday night because even though you've got to see 1:18:53.840 --> 1:18:56.680 Attle team that's not very good and record wise not 1:18:56.760 --> 1:18:59.880 good at all, it looked like a situation they had 1:18:59.880 --> 1:19:02.920 a red hot player, the fever got up big and 1:19:03.120 --> 1:19:07.040 saw their lead get paired into and then came back 1:19:07.120 --> 1:19:10.479 in one. And you had again Noah Leah Boston for 1:19:10.840 --> 1:19:15.160 significant portions of the game. But both your star players 1:19:15.280 --> 1:19:19.160 as well, and Caitlin Clark and Kelsey Mitchell were outstanding. 1:19:19.439 --> 1:19:23.320 Was that this team, in your estimation, hitting their stride 1:19:23.400 --> 1:19:23.840 right now? 1:19:25.280 --> 1:19:28.080 What a character building moment once again inside the. 1:19:28.040 --> 1:19:30.639 Game, you know, to face some adversity and to bounce back. 1:19:31.360 --> 1:19:34.639 It is such an entertaining and exciting backcourt to watch. 1:19:34.680 --> 1:19:36.160 You just don't know what they're going to. 1:19:36.200 --> 1:19:37.960 Do except score on everybody. 1:19:38.439 --> 1:19:41.760 I mean, we are so talented on the offensive end, 1:19:41.760 --> 1:19:45.000 and Stephanie White will always start with defense, which most 1:19:45.040 --> 1:19:48.120 coaches do. But yes, I do think we are hitting 1:19:48.120 --> 1:19:50.360 our stride. I think we have come together. There's no 1:19:50.520 --> 1:19:53.720 question there's chemistry. They're connected, and they're playing better on 1:19:53.760 --> 1:19:54.639 the defensive end. 1:19:55.479 --> 1:20:00.600 Defensive end, fouling too much, and turnovers. Those are the 1:20:00.760 --> 1:20:05.200 three main issues so far this season. From your vantage point, 1:20:05.240 --> 1:20:07.200 are they improving on those factors? 1:20:07.840 --> 1:20:09.960 You know, we've been trying to track the number of 1:20:10.080 --> 1:20:12.360 quarters that they keep the other team off the free 1:20:12.360 --> 1:20:12.920 throw line. 1:20:12.960 --> 1:20:17.000 It is definitely a factor and we are winning that category. 1:20:17.160 --> 1:20:19.800 And here's part of the reason why we are doing 1:20:19.800 --> 1:20:23.280 a better job of staying between our player and the basket. 1:20:23.320 --> 1:20:25.320 We are guarding the ball better, not. 1:20:25.560 --> 1:20:29.519 Just the action, and those are important defensive concepts. On 1:20:29.560 --> 1:20:33.400 the other side, our offense puts so much pressure on 1:20:33.439 --> 1:20:36.000 the other team's defense because of the pace that we 1:20:36.040 --> 1:20:39.439 play with. We are constantly putting you in at a 1:20:39.520 --> 1:20:44.400 deficit defensively because we do these habits over and over, John, 1:20:44.479 --> 1:20:46.800 We run the floor hard, we run to the deep 1:20:46.880 --> 1:20:50.280 corner that flattens out the defense. It opens up the 1:20:50.280 --> 1:20:52.439 top of the floor. And when you open up the 1:20:52.479 --> 1:20:54.400 top of the floor in the middle third, that's when 1:20:54.479 --> 1:20:58.479 Caitlin Kelsey and Aliyah are absolutely going to crucify you 1:20:58.880 --> 1:21:01.320 in those spots on the floor because they can score. 1:21:01.680 --> 1:21:04.800 They will always make the defense wrong in those situations. 1:21:05.520 --> 1:21:08.799 W Antonelli got the Fever and the fire later on tonight, 1:21:08.880 --> 1:21:12.280 she and Pat Boyl and on Channel thirteen WTHR. I 1:21:12.320 --> 1:21:15.800 believe coming up later on tonight as well, this isn't 1:21:15.800 --> 1:21:18.840 an interesting dynamic because you're in Portland. But I can't 1:21:18.880 --> 1:21:20.920 help myself, and this is just a fan in me. 1:21:21.040 --> 1:21:23.040 You kind of look ahead a little bit if you're 1:21:23.080 --> 1:21:26.920 the fan coming up on Sunday in Minnesota against the 1:21:27.000 --> 1:21:30.720 Links at one o'clock. Obviously this team is not going 1:21:30.760 --> 1:21:32.760 to overlook it. But what do you see in the 1:21:32.800 --> 1:21:36.240 fire that the Fever really have to try to stamp out, 1:21:36.280 --> 1:21:39.960 so to speak? Coming up later on tonight in Portland, Well, 1:21:40.000 --> 1:21:40.559 you're right, I. 1:21:40.520 --> 1:21:42.639 Mean, we haven't played Minnesota yet, and you don't want 1:21:42.640 --> 1:21:44.600 to look ahead, and we do have three games to 1:21:44.600 --> 1:21:47.840 play with Minnesota, which are going to be incredible benchmarks. 1:21:47.240 --> 1:21:50.320 For this team. But I don't think this is a 1:21:50.360 --> 1:21:52.600 group that's going to be sleeping on anybody. 1:21:52.600 --> 1:21:55.800 Certainly not every REP. In the way they attack reps 1:21:55.800 --> 1:21:57.400 in practice yesterday. 1:21:57.000 --> 1:22:00.040 The way that they prepared to shoot around today, I 1:22:00.080 --> 1:22:02.599 think there's any sleeping on Portland at all. 1:22:02.920 --> 1:22:04.719 In Portland presents some different challenges. 1:22:04.760 --> 1:22:06.080 Now. Remember we came out. 1:22:05.960 --> 1:22:07.840 Here earlier in the year at end of May and 1:22:07.880 --> 1:22:10.280 got our doors blown off. It's the worst game of 1:22:10.280 --> 1:22:12.320 the season, and I think the. 1:22:12.280 --> 1:22:15.240 Fever remember that, and you just don't know what little 1:22:15.240 --> 1:22:19.040 pieces of what happened in that previous event and game 1:22:19.520 --> 1:22:20.880 carry over to coming back this. 1:22:20.880 --> 1:22:22.559 Time and really wanted to show what you can do 1:22:22.600 --> 1:22:24.800 here in Portland. So I think they're ready. 1:22:25.160 --> 1:22:27.719 Catlin Clark looks like she just simply put feels better 1:22:27.800 --> 1:22:30.960 right now? Is that the case? You see that too? Joy? 1:22:31.080 --> 1:22:33.240 I think I see the joy returning to her game. 1:22:33.320 --> 1:22:37.840 I mean, I see her feeling very confident and very comfortable, 1:22:38.000 --> 1:22:40.599 and no situation on the floor seems to bother her. 1:22:40.640 --> 1:22:42.160 She's able to handle all of it. 1:22:42.360 --> 1:22:45.000 Well, yeah, and you know what she also has to 1:22:45.120 --> 1:22:47.479 And even if you block it out, there's all this 1:22:47.520 --> 1:22:50.320 other stuff and she is all ball And I have 1:22:50.400 --> 1:22:53.000 the ultimate respect with her about that. She just wants 1:22:53.000 --> 1:22:55.439 to play and play hoop and that's that's it. But 1:22:55.560 --> 1:22:59.400 all this other stuff has a tendency to close in 1:22:59.479 --> 1:23:03.040 on you. But it's incredible how she can block it 1:23:03.120 --> 1:23:07.200 all out and kind of maintain just that focus, because really, 1:23:07.240 --> 1:23:10.479 the scrutiny on her on so many levels is so 1:23:10.920 --> 1:23:13.080 unlike what a lot of athletes see. 1:23:14.120 --> 1:23:17.320 It's an incredible spotlight and it's not one that she 1:23:17.520 --> 1:23:21.559 has necessarily asked for, but she certainly has handled. I 1:23:21.560 --> 1:23:23.040 think I've said this to you before, and I know 1:23:23.080 --> 1:23:25.320 I've said it in many places. I've never heard her 1:23:25.320 --> 1:23:27.479 make a mistake in a press conference. I've never heard 1:23:27.479 --> 1:23:29.880 her fall for the bait. I'd never heard her not 1:23:30.040 --> 1:23:34.120 take the high road. She constantly understands the role model 1:23:34.120 --> 1:23:38.400 that she has become. She embraces that, and she delivers. 1:23:38.520 --> 1:23:41.280 And part of what happens when you have all of 1:23:41.320 --> 1:23:44.920 that other outside noise, you come together with your team 1:23:45.000 --> 1:23:47.160 and you go to practice, and you go and shoot around, 1:23:47.200 --> 1:23:49.920 and you do the repetition and the rhythm and the 1:23:50.360 --> 1:23:53.240 reps and the habits, and then you forget all about 1:23:53.280 --> 1:23:55.120 that for that time that you're on the floor. 1:23:55.479 --> 1:23:57.760 That's the magic and that's the best time. And it's 1:23:57.800 --> 1:23:59.679 amazing that she can. 1:23:59.560 --> 1:24:01.759 Not let any of that other stuff be a distraction 1:24:02.160 --> 1:24:04.559 while she balls out like one of the top scorers 1:24:04.600 --> 1:24:05.600 in the league. 1:24:05.360 --> 1:24:05.559 You know. 1:24:05.760 --> 1:24:07.800 And what's great about it the way they are right 1:24:07.840 --> 1:24:10.040 now and on a wednes streak and the way they 1:24:10.080 --> 1:24:13.320 performed on Tuesday, is that a lot of this other 1:24:13.439 --> 1:24:15.800 crap that you have to hear, you have to read, 1:24:15.880 --> 1:24:18.240 you have to deal with, has a tendency to go 1:24:18.360 --> 1:24:21.960 away when you win, and a lot of that scrutiny, 1:24:22.000 --> 1:24:26.120 a lot of that criticism fades when you win. That's 1:24:26.200 --> 1:24:30.280 almost like this team, these players that coach showing everybody, hey, 1:24:30.479 --> 1:24:33.240 this is what we're about, and then all that other 1:24:33.280 --> 1:24:35.559 stuff again has that tendency to fade away. 1:24:36.840 --> 1:24:41.120 Sharpens, the character sharpens, the habits, puts all of it 1:24:41.160 --> 1:24:44.040 together for forty minutes on the floor. I mean, this 1:24:44.120 --> 1:24:46.920 is a mature group. So you know, maybe there were 1:24:46.960 --> 1:24:49.439 people talking about them in the conversation earlier in the 1:24:49.520 --> 1:24:51.639 year about how good they were, but certainly now they 1:24:51.640 --> 1:24:53.840 had everyone's attention. They've won five in a row, They've 1:24:53.880 --> 1:24:56.680 already set a bunch of offensive records. You know, historically, 1:24:57.080 --> 1:24:59.479 we're on pace to be the highest scoring team ever. 1:25:00.479 --> 1:25:06.799 Kelsey and Caitlin are becoming unguardable, and Caitlin and Kelsey 1:25:06.880 --> 1:25:11.040 are so good together. They're the highest scoring combo in 1:25:11.080 --> 1:25:14.080 the backcourt in the league, and Kelsey and Alia are 1:25:14.120 --> 1:25:16.320 like the second highest scoring combo in the league. So 1:25:17.200 --> 1:25:19.960 we've got a lot of offensive firepower. We should continue 1:25:20.000 --> 1:25:23.280 to concentrate on the defense, keep the distraction and the 1:25:23.320 --> 1:25:26.840 noise away, and just keep playing connected like they've played 1:25:26.880 --> 1:25:28.479 so far, but fish very together. 1:25:28.720 --> 1:25:31.479 There is wntdelli with us on the Andy More Automotive 1:25:31.479 --> 1:25:35.559 Group plotline with the fever not so much. There's no 1:25:35.680 --> 1:25:39.320 expectation there. But how often in the past in covering 1:25:39.360 --> 1:25:45.320 the WNBA have you seen a significant impact made for 1:25:45.600 --> 1:25:47.480 the WNBA trade deadline. 1:25:49.600 --> 1:25:51.360 I think we've had some in the past, and I 1:25:51.400 --> 1:25:54.280 have to think about what. I don't know if we'll 1:25:54.280 --> 1:25:58.160 have a landslide change this year. It could happen depending 1:25:58.200 --> 1:26:00.640 on Kelsey Plumb. I think there's a lot of conversation 1:26:00.760 --> 1:26:03.960 around what's happening with the Sparks. I don't have any 1:26:04.000 --> 1:26:06.360 insider information on any of that, so I don't know. 1:26:06.439 --> 1:26:08.960 But if she does land with a contender that will 1:26:08.960 --> 1:26:09.719 be a big deal. 1:26:10.520 --> 1:26:13.000 Yeah, it's just it's kind of interesting. I could not 1:26:13.240 --> 1:26:17.080 recollect anything that Again, I'm looking at it from an 1:26:17.080 --> 1:26:21.160 impactful angle here that I could remember that that took place. 1:26:21.200 --> 1:26:24.200 But as we embark upon that time right now, it 1:26:24.320 --> 1:26:26.880 is kind of interesting to note that that's where we 1:26:26.920 --> 1:26:28.120 are and there's going to be a lot of teams 1:26:28.160 --> 1:26:30.760 scrambling to think that they can get where they ultimately 1:26:31.160 --> 1:26:33.439 believe they can get at they had a player of 1:26:33.520 --> 1:26:34.040 that level. 1:26:35.120 --> 1:26:38.439 You know, fifteen teams now and only eight spots. So 1:26:38.479 --> 1:26:41.040 while we're expanding, we haven't changed the number of teams 1:26:41.080 --> 1:26:44.479 in the playoffs. So yeah, it's a competitive rate, it is. 1:26:44.760 --> 1:26:45.360 You know, the. 1:26:45.400 --> 1:26:46.160 Product is good. 1:26:46.240 --> 1:26:47.799 I mean, we've talked about this before. 1:26:48.320 --> 1:26:51.000 You can't sleep on any team in this league, even Connecticut, 1:26:51.040 --> 1:26:51.879 who is right. 1:26:51.720 --> 1:26:53.639 Now at the bottom with Seattle. 1:26:53.800 --> 1:26:56.320 Both of those teams are capable in matchups that they 1:26:56.320 --> 1:26:58.320 can win, and you could see what Seattle has done. 1:26:58.320 --> 1:27:01.040 They're a tough matchup for us because their size upfront. 1:27:01.640 --> 1:27:04.880 Hi, Debbie, I'm jerious. You mentioned this before the backcourt 1:27:05.040 --> 1:27:08.679 with Mitchell and Clark, and for those of us out 1:27:08.680 --> 1:27:10.800 there the fans, it it'd be so easy. You have 1:27:10.920 --> 1:27:15.839 these dynamic players, the dynamic scores, and everything is so easy. 1:27:17.200 --> 1:27:20.000 What is it like dealing with that, because it has 1:27:20.040 --> 1:27:23.240 to be to me, easier said than done to get 1:27:23.280 --> 1:27:27.080 the most out of again, two dynamic players in the 1:27:27.120 --> 1:27:29.000 backcourt that the Fever have like that. 1:27:30.160 --> 1:27:34.040 See, that's such a great question because they neither one 1:27:34.080 --> 1:27:37.040 of them actually needs a screen to be able to score. 1:27:37.280 --> 1:27:39.920 I think they prefer space. But because of the way 1:27:40.040 --> 1:27:42.439 Feaver run stuff, they're always going to be involved in 1:27:42.520 --> 1:27:45.479 moving off the ball and coming off of screens and 1:27:45.520 --> 1:27:49.920 all kinds of screening activity, whether it's pin downs that 1:27:49.960 --> 1:27:52.720 are down the lane line or wide pin downs, which 1:27:52.800 --> 1:27:55.639 Kelsey Mitchell is like on a two man naked side. 1:27:55.680 --> 1:27:58.479 As a pro, it's definitely a pro. Nobody can stop 1:27:58.520 --> 1:28:02.639 her going left when she's coming off that Alyssa Boston 1:28:03.320 --> 1:28:06.559 Elliot Boston, excuse me, pinned down. But here's the part 1:28:06.600 --> 1:28:09.240 of the game that people don't realize it's so valuable 1:28:09.360 --> 1:28:13.439 is when Lexi Hall runs to the corner, Cunningham runs 1:28:13.479 --> 1:28:17.000 hard to the corner, and Monique Billings runs hard to 1:28:17.040 --> 1:28:17.439 the rim. 1:28:17.840 --> 1:28:20.120 That's the space that I'm talking about. It seems like 1:28:20.200 --> 1:28:22.840 It's a simple concept, but it's so. 1:28:23.000 --> 1:28:26.040 Valuable for allowing all the other actions to happen. So 1:28:26.439 --> 1:28:29.519 while you're watching Caitlin and you're watching Kelsey, and it's 1:28:29.560 --> 1:28:31.240 hard to take your eyes off of either one of 1:28:31.280 --> 1:28:34.600 them because they are so dynamic and they have the 1:28:34.720 --> 1:28:39.080 counters and the solutions to whatever you provide defensively, but 1:28:39.160 --> 1:28:41.600 you cannot discount all the other things, in all the 1:28:41.640 --> 1:28:45.200 other ways and habits that Stephanie White is instilled in 1:28:45.240 --> 1:28:47.240 this team to be able to score at the pace 1:28:47.280 --> 1:28:47.880 that we're scoring. 1:28:48.160 --> 1:28:51.160 I will tell you this too, because the eyes are 1:28:51.320 --> 1:28:55.519 constantly focused on Caitlin Clark with the ball, but I 1:28:55.560 --> 1:29:02.000 have noticed this. Kelsey Mitchell is non stop movement without 1:29:02.040 --> 1:29:04.200 the ball. I don't know if this is the case, 1:29:04.240 --> 1:29:07.240 but that seems to me. She is so talented, but 1:29:07.280 --> 1:29:10.519 I think that is what really expedites to the highest 1:29:10.640 --> 1:29:15.080 level of talent, because she has endless motion offensively out there. 1:29:15.760 --> 1:29:18.599 And see when you take her down the right side 1:29:18.640 --> 1:29:21.439 of the floor and Aliah Boston comes with that pin 1:29:21.600 --> 1:29:24.920 down and most defenses try to get on top of Kelsey, 1:29:25.240 --> 1:29:27.759 so they don't want her to cut off the screen 1:29:27.840 --> 1:29:28.559 because she's going. 1:29:28.479 --> 1:29:29.519 To curl that and score. 1:29:29.960 --> 1:29:32.360 But when you get on top of it, she's so fast. 1:29:32.760 --> 1:29:34.960 That's why we get a lot of those back door cuts, 1:29:35.120 --> 1:29:37.920 right the ninety degree cut on the baseline. But if 1:29:37.920 --> 1:29:40.920 you don't play her square, she's going to come off 1:29:40.960 --> 1:29:43.080 that and if she curls, she's going to get to 1:29:43.120 --> 1:29:43.960 the nail and she's going to. 1:29:44.000 --> 1:29:46.000 Hit a fifteen footer or she's going to hit Boston 1:29:46.040 --> 1:29:47.639 on the roll. We could run that. 1:29:47.680 --> 1:29:50.400 Play all game and no one would be able to 1:29:50.400 --> 1:29:52.920 stop it. Just clear it out and run that and 1:29:53.080 --> 1:29:56.120 Kelsey could get fifty. But that's not what the Fever 1:29:56.280 --> 1:29:58.240 need to do to be able to win a championship. 1:29:58.560 --> 1:30:00.479 And that's the way we should be talking about it. 1:30:00.520 --> 1:30:02.960 We should be talking about a championship now. We should 1:30:03.000 --> 1:30:05.800 be talking about Kelsey Mitchell and Caitlin Clark in the 1:30:05.840 --> 1:30:07.160 conversation for MVP. 1:30:07.720 --> 1:30:10.559 It's a no doubt about that. Wi Antonelli joining us again. 1:30:10.680 --> 1:30:13.960 She and Pat Boyling have the call coming up later 1:30:14.000 --> 1:30:17.040 on tonight. I'm assuming nine point thirty pm is going 1:30:17.120 --> 1:30:19.400 to be the pre game and ten o'clock that tip 1:30:19.439 --> 1:30:24.000 time from the Modus Center in Portland, Oregon, and then 1:30:24.080 --> 1:30:28.120 Minnesota coming up on the schedule on Sunday afternoon, which 1:30:28.120 --> 1:30:30.200 should be fun. Hey, thank you very much for taking 1:30:30.240 --> 1:30:32.680 the time out today for this breakdown. I appreciate that. 1:30:32.760 --> 1:30:35.160 We'll catch back up when you guys get back home too. 1:30:35.920 --> 1:30:38.519 Let's do it and let's have a Fever takeover. Let 1:30:38.640 --> 1:30:39.559 us come in there and. 1:30:39.479 --> 1:30:42.559 Take over for I would love it. I'd love to 1:30:42.600 --> 1:30:45.840 have anybody taking any fever man coming on in. Bring 1:30:45.840 --> 1:30:48.160 it on in. Yeah, make sure you tell everybody down 1:30:48.160 --> 1:30:49.360 there that, okay. 1:30:49.560 --> 1:30:50.800 Okay, I'll tell them for sure. 1:30:50.920 --> 1:30:57.280 Thanks, Debbie, DeBie ed Todell is pretty awesome. Fever Takeover 1:30:57.400 --> 1:31:04.040 j MV Takeover. Uh, I didn't want to say it 1:31:04.120 --> 1:31:06.200 as hard as hell to get anybody from the fever 1:31:06.280 --> 1:31:07.720 on this show. You know, the last time I had 1:31:07.760 --> 1:31:11.120 somebody from the fever on this show, player, it was 1:31:11.640 --> 1:31:16.920 Lexi Hall. She was in treatment and I believe one 1:31:16.960 --> 1:31:23.000 of the one of the I don't know what, how 1:31:23.040 --> 1:31:26.720 would you explain this, One of the the guys that 1:31:26.960 --> 1:31:29.640 the people in this case that were working her out 1:31:30.360 --> 1:31:34.400 in treatment heard me shout her out and I think 1:31:34.520 --> 1:31:38.960 handed to the phone. Seriously, that's the last and it 1:31:39.000 --> 1:31:41.960 was like two or three years ago. She was awesome too, 1:31:42.160 --> 1:31:44.240 just like right there on the spot. She was literally 1:31:44.320 --> 1:31:51.160 in treatment, and you know, one of the one of 1:31:51.160 --> 1:31:56.680 the physicians, orthopedic folks there handed to the phone. So 1:31:56.800 --> 1:31:58.800 I'm ready willing and able to do a little bit 1:31:58.800 --> 1:32:03.160 of a takeover right here. DeBie Antonelli is always awesome. 1:32:03.160 --> 1:32:06.040 We appreciate that State Fair Passes. Coming up before the 1:32:06.080 --> 1:32:10.040 end of the show, Adam Rittenberg the Big Tin Breakdown. 1:32:10.439 --> 1:32:14.640 There's no doubt that Kurt Signetti was awesome yesterday. But 1:32:14.880 --> 1:32:18.080 the rest of the Big ten and especially the change 1:32:18.080 --> 1:32:21.719 of landscape with coaches, whether it's East Lansing and Arbor 1:32:21.800 --> 1:32:24.439 or Happy Valley. We'll go over that and more with 1:32:24.479 --> 1:32:26.400 Adam coming up at the top of the hour. This 1:32:26.439 --> 1:32:28.280 is ninety three to five and one oh seven five The. 1:32:28.280 --> 1:32:33.880 Fan The Ride with jmv. 1:32:33.720 --> 1:32:36.559 Oh wife, No matter how beauty is our affectionate points 1:32:36.520 --> 1:32:38.559 severely impare my crime fight. 1:32:38.400 --> 1:32:41.519 Aty three five and one oh seven five The Fan 1:32:42.160 --> 1:32:44.960 So loaded so far. 1:32:45.080 --> 1:32:48.960 Today's thatch kicks looked on sports w Antonelle Fever Television 1:32:49.000 --> 1:32:53.200 analysts Fever in the far right. 1:32:53.200 --> 1:32:53.360 Here. 1:32:53.400 --> 1:32:56.400 Later on tonight, ninet thirty is Tidrow with the pregame 1:32:56.439 --> 1:32:59.200 coverage ten o'clock. Is that tiptime Modus Center in Portland? 1:32:59.240 --> 1:33:02.040 They get the link of Minnesota coming up on Sunday 1:33:02.040 --> 1:33:05.280 afternoon one, What is the weather update? Is my weekend 1:33:05.320 --> 1:33:09.160 of sunshine and poolside going to be compromised by crappy weather? 1:33:09.240 --> 1:33:12.200 What do we have here? Not just the moment, but 1:33:12.280 --> 1:33:13.000 for the weekend. 1:33:13.520 --> 1:33:16.160 I know I was planning on going to colts camp tomorrow, John, 1:33:16.240 --> 1:33:18.960 and I think that's in jeopardy of being moved inside. 1:33:19.120 --> 1:33:24.479 We cannot have Listen, there's not much summer remaining. Yeah, 1:33:24.520 --> 1:33:27.120 and really, for a lot of people out there, summer 1:33:27.200 --> 1:33:32.759 has already concluded. Given the fact school ridiculously enough starts 1:33:32.880 --> 1:33:35.960 in late July, Where the hell are we in this world? 1:33:36.080 --> 1:33:38.000 When school starts in late July? 1:33:38.360 --> 1:33:39.040 That nuts? 1:33:39.320 --> 1:33:43.160 It's stupid as hell. Every year it's earlier. Look how 1:33:43.200 --> 1:33:47.160 well rounded an individual I am at the age of 1:33:47.200 --> 1:33:51.400 fifty six and a half, and I thought we started 1:33:51.439 --> 1:33:56.120 school around August the twentieth every year, Look that was early. 1:33:56.439 --> 1:33:59.280 You know what? This is way early. I would have 1:33:59.640 --> 1:34:04.559 simple put refuse to start No way, late July does 1:34:04.800 --> 1:34:08.280 look like I would have refused to start school. 1:34:08.400 --> 1:34:11.400 I'm not going sixteen year old jov gets to school 1:34:11.400 --> 1:34:13.280 starts and listen July thirty. 1:34:13.360 --> 1:34:16.320 First, if you're out there and you believe you need 1:34:16.680 --> 1:34:21.680 a two week fall break, you don't. You don't need it. 1:34:23.520 --> 1:34:26.760 You do not need it. In fact, some of you 1:34:26.800 --> 1:34:29.280 get a two week spring break. You don't need that either, 1:34:30.560 --> 1:34:33.720 because it's weird. You have spring break, right, two week 1:34:33.760 --> 1:34:35.800 spring break, and then you come back and you're back 1:34:35.880 --> 1:34:37.800 literally about a month, and then school's over. 1:34:37.960 --> 1:34:40.760 Yeah, just stick it out right. 1:34:41.439 --> 1:34:45.639 Educators of Indiana. You guys need me. You guys need 1:34:45.640 --> 1:34:50.280 me on that wall. Everybody always talks about I'm common sense, 1:34:50.320 --> 1:34:53.000 and I'm common sense this and that. You're not common 1:34:53.040 --> 1:35:02.040 sense anything. I'm common sense. Kids need their summer. Stop 1:35:02.200 --> 1:35:07.679 jacking with it. That should be hard. You don't need 1:35:07.720 --> 1:35:09.920 two weeks in the fall. You don't need two weeks 1:35:09.920 --> 1:35:12.559 in the spring. You can keep Christmas break the way 1:35:12.680 --> 1:35:17.960 that it is. Don't need all that crap. It's a 1:35:17.960 --> 1:35:20.880 world coming to I'm assuming is it like that out 1:35:20.880 --> 1:35:22.679 of the state of Indiana. Are we just led by 1:35:23.120 --> 1:35:23.759 numb nuts? 1:35:23.840 --> 1:35:24.880 No, I think it's happening. 1:35:25.000 --> 1:35:29.160 Assuming we're led by numb nuts. You know me are 1:35:29.160 --> 1:35:31.240 all over I said this earlier. They're all over my 1:35:31.320 --> 1:35:34.320 ex account. No wonder nothing can get done because of 1:35:34.400 --> 1:35:36.800 all the people you vote in are all over X 1:35:36.920 --> 1:35:42.400 like their thirteen year old kids. Jeez, yeah, no wonder 1:35:42.439 --> 1:35:45.720 you can't work. I'm on ARAM. Listen, I'm mad. Look 1:35:45.760 --> 1:35:51.680 at this person's doing well, tattle tailing and stuff. Yeah, 1:35:51.880 --> 1:35:56.040 can you not be real? Dudes? Can you seriously? I'm 1:35:56.040 --> 1:35:58.920 gonna tell you I'm gonna vote. If I'm gonna vote 1:35:58.920 --> 1:36:03.040 for real dudes, I'm not voting for any of these 1:36:03.080 --> 1:36:07.680 whimps jays? And again, how is X? How is it 1:36:07.760 --> 1:36:11.439 for me when all these clowns are just rotten all 1:36:11.479 --> 1:36:13.320 over it? You know where that can be for me? 1:36:13.439 --> 1:36:15.639 You got to switch over to the following tab. 1:36:15.720 --> 1:36:19.800 But even then john following tab, there's a for you tab. 1:36:19.840 --> 1:36:21.000 There's a following tab. 1:36:21.080 --> 1:36:24.320 Yeah, but even then the following tabs sometimes some stuff 1:36:24.360 --> 1:36:26.960 that you don't want infiltrates following. 1:36:26.600 --> 1:36:30.200 How do I get the for you? Show you? All right, 1:36:30.560 --> 1:36:34.120 I'm seeing now select topics you don't want to see, 1:36:34.160 --> 1:36:35.720 so I could take you. I can do that. I 1:36:35.760 --> 1:36:38.720 can do that. I can just take politics out of it. Look, 1:36:38.840 --> 1:36:42.559 I just saw that right there, all right, the following 1:36:42.640 --> 1:36:46.080 topics here? What would you think that I would want 1:36:46.120 --> 1:36:50.480 to take out Are you ready? Politics, sports, business and finance, 1:36:50.880 --> 1:36:57.760 science and technology, entertainment and arts, artificial intelligence, gaming, crypto videos. 1:36:59.040 --> 1:37:02.800 I think everything at the entertainment in the sports you 1:37:02.840 --> 1:37:03.799 would take out. 1:37:04.840 --> 1:37:09.840 Yeah, I think so. And see, I don't like the 1:37:09.920 --> 1:37:13.200 videos that I constantly see of dudes fighting. I don't 1:37:13.280 --> 1:37:15.479 like the fighting videos. I don't need to see that. 1:37:19.040 --> 1:37:21.160 Back then, when you had to fight, it just you 1:37:21.160 --> 1:37:23.360 had to fight and then it was over, you know, 1:37:24.280 --> 1:37:28.320 on video forever. Yeah, I think sports. I'm going to 1:37:28.360 --> 1:37:30.559 click all these over and see if I can feel better. 1:37:30.880 --> 1:37:32.639 Snooze topics is what they're called. 1:37:32.720 --> 1:37:33.120 Right here. 1:37:34.560 --> 1:37:39.519 I'm gonna snooze on everything I need to snooze, Tammy. 1:37:39.640 --> 1:37:42.680 I can go to three or four home games and 1:37:42.880 --> 1:37:45.519 sit in the two hundred level for thirty five dollars 1:37:45.560 --> 1:37:48.240 a month. Of course you have parking and other stuff, 1:37:48.280 --> 1:37:51.320 but I'd rather buy on the secondary market three to 1:37:51.360 --> 1:37:55.000 four games at ten dollars apiece. Very common price for 1:37:55.080 --> 1:38:00.280 weekday games, even when things are good. Jeremiah said, I 1:38:00.320 --> 1:38:03.280 ain't paying eight dollars for coffee from Starbucks. I'm paying 1:38:03.320 --> 1:38:09.000 six dollars for it from seven brew. I go upstairs. 1:38:09.240 --> 1:38:13.600 I blank you not, and I only drink I want 1:38:13.840 --> 1:38:19.960 the most harsh black coffee possible. I'm sad that we 1:38:20.040 --> 1:38:24.640 have a nice machine upstairs. I'm sad that it's not 1:38:24.760 --> 1:38:30.320 an old school like mister coffee, worn out pot. I want. 1:38:30.520 --> 1:38:33.040 I want it as harsh as pot because I'm just 1:38:33.080 --> 1:38:34.799 looking for the buzz I want. 1:38:35.080 --> 1:38:35.160 You. 1:38:35.160 --> 1:38:37.720 Guys are always saying, how are you so energetic? Like 1:38:37.800 --> 1:38:40.840 I have a process where I keep a level of 1:38:41.000 --> 1:38:47.840 energy and black coffee I want it as close to 1:38:49.280 --> 1:38:51.439 like anybody else would say, There's zero way I'm ever 1:38:51.479 --> 1:38:54.400 taking a drink of that that looks awful. That's what 1:38:54.439 --> 1:38:59.800 I want. I'm not paying eight dollars eight dollars for 1:38:59.800 --> 1:39:02.559 a cup of coffee. I think it's more than that too, right, 1:39:05.479 --> 1:39:12.320 six dollars at seven ru huh. JMV. I promise you 1:39:13.520 --> 1:39:18.200 the for you is not thank you. And I saw 1:39:18.240 --> 1:39:20.320 this new tab in here that I can utilize though, 1:39:20.360 --> 1:39:25.000 I feel better about that. JMV. Brad from the GOADI here, 1:39:25.000 --> 1:39:27.599 I was just jamming out to Millie Vanilli. I hope 1:39:27.600 --> 1:39:31.439 you're doing well. Thank you, Brad girl, you know what's true. 1:39:31.600 --> 1:39:34.960 Oo ooh and back in the day, too. Remember they 1:39:34.960 --> 1:39:37.679 wanted Grammy. It was taken away because they were lip syncing. 1:39:38.479 --> 1:39:41.559 I just want to hear good songs and good solid music. 1:39:41.600 --> 1:39:44.120 It was still good solid music even if the two 1:39:44.200 --> 1:39:48.479 dudes Robin fab were lip syncing. Give me a break. 1:39:50.320 --> 1:39:53.439 Still enjoyed it all right, quick break will come back. 1:39:53.479 --> 1:39:55.400 I got more from me. On the text line, I've 1:39:55.400 --> 1:39:59.960 got State Fair passes and Adam Rittenberg talks Big ten 1:40:00.160 --> 1:40:04.200 football that from ESPN and it's on the other side 1:40:04.240 --> 1:40:05.720 ninety three five, one oh seven five The. 1:40:11.040 --> 1:40:14.920 Ride with JMV Ready for Football. 1:40:15.840 --> 1:40:19.600 Football is a Way of Life, of Life. 1:40:19.640 --> 1:40:22.959 Ninety three five and one oh seven five The Fan. 1:40:25.040 --> 1:40:27.920 Three one seven, two, three nine ten, seventy teesh line 1:40:28.000 --> 1:40:33.960 Jim McCann Southern California mentions this Huntington Beach City Elementary 1:40:34.000 --> 1:40:42.280 School District that's HBCSD starts on September. The first well done. 1:40:42.439 --> 1:40:50.120 Southern California. Huntington Beach Union High School District hbu HSD 1:40:50.479 --> 1:40:56.840 starts on September the second. It's more like it this 1:40:57.160 --> 1:40:59.360 end of July. Bull crap around here? 1:40:59.400 --> 1:40:59.920 What do we do? 1:41:03.120 --> 1:41:06.400 Sina Grove goes back on Wednesday. Hey, by the way, Hey, 1:41:06.400 --> 1:41:08.880 shout out if you're running down on the south side. 1:41:10.360 --> 1:41:14.160 The Kopesky car wash on US thirty one has one 1:41:14.960 --> 1:41:20.200 Laney Loo working there today, last couple of work days 1:41:20.200 --> 1:41:28.400 before school starts again. Lane shout out the lane. And 1:41:28.479 --> 1:41:30.160 I know this to be true because I had to 1:41:30.320 --> 1:41:37.080 hauler over there today. Well done. I don't know how 1:41:37.080 --> 1:41:39.760 many people are getting their car washed today, considering that 1:41:39.840 --> 1:41:43.320 there is rain on the endbound here? Do we know 1:41:44.000 --> 1:41:46.040 significant rain storms? All that cramp? 1:41:46.120 --> 1:41:49.760 I mean, I'm not the biggest car washer. I feel 1:41:49.760 --> 1:41:51.479 like I go like once a year. John's I'm probably 1:41:51.520 --> 1:41:52.559 the wrong person to ask. 1:41:52.680 --> 1:41:55.760 It was a point in time when I haven't been 1:41:55.800 --> 1:41:58.240 in a minute, but I kind of got addicted to it, 1:41:59.280 --> 1:42:01.760 addicted to the car wash. I don't know why. It 1:42:01.800 --> 1:42:06.519 was weird when you went early that you get that smell, 1:42:06.800 --> 1:42:10.240 like a really incredibly fresh smell. And there are so 1:42:10.320 --> 1:42:13.320 many levels now you can go this level, on that level, 1:42:13.439 --> 1:42:16.559 nineteen different levels of car wash. 1:42:16.720 --> 1:42:18.120 I just do the normal one. 1:42:18.800 --> 1:42:23.880 Uh much much like me, I always like to give 1:42:24.080 --> 1:42:31.840 my vehicle a complete undercarriage cleaning, do you Because I 1:42:31.920 --> 1:42:34.320 know how that makes me feel. I can't imagine how 1:42:34.360 --> 1:42:35.800 it makes my vehicle feel. 1:42:35.560 --> 1:42:39.400 I wonder what our next guess Adams thinking about this conversation. 1:42:39.080 --> 1:42:41.800 Find out on the Andy Moore Automotive grew potline he 1:42:41.960 --> 1:42:45.240 in Chicago had to deal with Kurt Signetti yesterday, who 1:42:45.360 --> 1:42:48.880 was much more entertaining than I on the Andy Moore 1:42:48.880 --> 1:42:52.400 Automotive Group plotline. It is Adam Rittenberg of ESPN on 1:42:52.720 --> 1:42:56.519 ESPN dot com. Uh, the holding of court of the 1:42:56.600 --> 1:43:00.599 defending national champion Indiana Hoosiers, their head coach, was somewhat 1:43:00.640 --> 1:43:01.880 interesting yesterday, was it not? 1:43:03.560 --> 1:43:04.000 It was? 1:43:04.120 --> 1:43:06.519 And you you kind of come to expect that from 1:43:06.560 --> 1:43:09.080 saying I had a chance to visit with him early 1:43:09.160 --> 1:43:10.640 in the day and kind of said, hey, what do 1:43:10.720 --> 1:43:13.000 you got for us this time? Because we all remember 1:43:13.560 --> 1:43:16.479 his performance a couple of years ago, Uh, you know, 1:43:16.479 --> 1:43:19.040 when they hadn't done anything, and you know, one of 1:43:19.120 --> 1:43:20.839 many called shots that he's. 1:43:20.680 --> 1:43:22.840 Had in Indiana, and then you know. 1:43:22.800 --> 1:43:26.080 Certainly last year planning up the disrespect that they had 1:43:26.800 --> 1:43:29.840 after making the playoff but not advancing and using that, 1:43:30.000 --> 1:43:32.599 and so you know, it was it was a certainly 1:43:32.640 --> 1:43:35.479 a fun performance to hear him throughout the day, and 1:43:35.640 --> 1:43:38.679 the shots that he took at the SEC were absolute gold. 1:43:38.800 --> 1:43:40.400 So a fun, a fun day. 1:43:40.439 --> 1:43:43.400 Indeed, as they wrapped up Big Ten meeting, when's. 1:43:43.160 --> 1:43:47.040 The last time we've seen a coach call their shot 1:43:47.360 --> 1:43:51.759 and then cash in with the shots that they called 1:43:51.800 --> 1:43:54.759 as much as he has, well. 1:43:54.720 --> 1:43:57.120 It's hard to think of someone at a school with 1:43:57.200 --> 1:44:00.519 Indiana's history, you know, doing it like like he has, 1:44:01.360 --> 1:44:04.320 or even moderately, you know, someone your coaches come in 1:44:04.360 --> 1:44:06.800 and talk about expectations and standards, the things that they 1:44:06.800 --> 1:44:08.520 want to do and accomplish. 1:44:08.680 --> 1:44:11.960 But you know, I can't think of someone who was 1:44:12.000 --> 1:44:14.920 able to back it up the way that that Sigg has. 1:44:14.680 --> 1:44:18.080 At Indiana, you know, from the moment he arrived there 1:44:18.560 --> 1:44:21.720 to you know, the first first interview at the Big 1:44:21.760 --> 1:44:24.560 Ten Championship game on the day that he was announced 1:44:24.560 --> 1:44:27.800 to the basketball court, to to really everything else. And 1:44:28.520 --> 1:44:31.800 you know, I think that confidence permeates throughout the program. 1:44:32.040 --> 1:44:34.760 And obviously you have to work and you have to 1:44:35.160 --> 1:44:37.880 you know, do the types of things that are necessary. 1:44:37.360 --> 1:44:39.120 And he outlines them. We all have heard. 1:44:38.960 --> 1:44:42.160 Those phrases from him before to actually do the winning. 1:44:42.280 --> 1:44:45.519 But if you're not confident in yourself, you're probably not 1:44:45.560 --> 1:44:47.000 going to accomplish great things. 1:44:47.040 --> 1:44:49.120 And that's not something he lacked you. 1:44:49.040 --> 1:44:52.400 Know, Ata Brittenberger esp dot ESPN dot com joins us. 1:44:52.680 --> 1:44:55.280 I say this all the time because people always bring up, well, 1:44:55.360 --> 1:44:56.960 you know, look at the money or look at the 1:44:57.040 --> 1:45:00.760 rate of the season schedule, And what impresses me the 1:45:00.840 --> 1:45:04.599 most even beyond well, I shouldn't say this, not beyond 1:45:04.640 --> 1:45:07.880 a national title, but what impresses me the most about 1:45:07.920 --> 1:45:11.120 what he has accomplished is the way that he puts 1:45:11.160 --> 1:45:16.400 together a roster. Having the the finances, the resources are 1:45:16.479 --> 1:45:19.080 not but the way you put it together and have 1:45:19.240 --> 1:45:22.240 it work at that place, the way that it has 1:45:22.320 --> 1:45:25.200 in the past two years, is to me still the 1:45:25.240 --> 1:45:27.479 most amazing aspect of all this. 1:45:29.120 --> 1:45:32.479 Absolutely, And you know, I think the word that comes 1:45:32.520 --> 1:45:35.120 to mind, and people have said this to me about saying, 1:45:35.320 --> 1:45:39.479 is efficiency. And he's someone who has a very clear 1:45:39.560 --> 1:45:43.879 vision for every element of the program, including roster building, 1:45:44.080 --> 1:45:46.599 and so you know, they know who they want, they 1:45:46.600 --> 1:45:47.639 go after that person. 1:45:48.320 --> 1:45:50.639 They don't waste a lot of time in I mean. 1:45:50.680 --> 1:45:53.320 I remember that weekend right before the Peach Bowl, the 1:45:53.360 --> 1:45:57.240 semi final game last year, was when they loaded up 1:45:57.280 --> 1:46:00.200 on transfers and were able to get pretty much much 1:46:00.240 --> 1:46:04.640 everybody they wanted for the season coming in you know, 1:46:04.800 --> 1:46:08.559 in a relatively short stand so he does not waste 1:46:08.600 --> 1:46:12.040 a lot of time or you know, or meander as 1:46:12.080 --> 1:46:16.519 he's figuring out the roster. And you know, they obviously 1:46:16.600 --> 1:46:21.120 had some needs after last season, from quarterback to defensive end. 1:46:21.439 --> 1:46:23.800 You know, one of the offensive line spots certainly coming 1:46:23.840 --> 1:46:26.519 in Joe Brunner from Wisconsin with a great addition and 1:46:26.600 --> 1:46:28.920 so but it wasn't like they took thirty transfers. I 1:46:28.960 --> 1:46:31.680 think they took seventeen or eighteen. But they took some 1:46:31.720 --> 1:46:35.080 real high quality guys and you know, with the resources 1:46:35.080 --> 1:46:36.720 that they have, they were able to land them. But 1:46:37.120 --> 1:46:39.080 it all starts with the vision of the head coach 1:46:39.120 --> 1:46:41.880 and the approach that you have towards roster building. Because 1:46:41.880 --> 1:46:44.799 if you just grab transfers or you just chase guys 1:46:44.880 --> 1:46:47.320 because other teams are doing it, it's probably not going 1:46:47.400 --> 1:46:48.400 to work out in your favor. 1:46:48.560 --> 1:46:51.320 Its Adam Rittenberg with us. What's also kind of interesting 1:46:51.360 --> 1:46:56.080 about it is people, I think often forget how many 1:46:56.400 --> 1:47:00.160 holdovers there are a lot of you know, there were 1:47:00.200 --> 1:47:02.639 a number of I should say handful of Tom Allen 1:47:02.680 --> 1:47:07.840 holdovers that had significant moments for him as well in 1:47:07.880 --> 1:47:10.280 the past two years and he made. 1:47:10.120 --> 1:47:12.400 A point to say, hey, listen, everyone's making a big 1:47:12.439 --> 1:47:14.439 deal about how the JM you guys are gone, Like 1:47:14.479 --> 1:47:16.680 what about the Indiana guys who have been here two 1:47:16.760 --> 1:47:19.639 years and you know they've become our JM you guys. 1:47:19.720 --> 1:47:22.360 And I think that's been maybe the most impressive element 1:47:22.800 --> 1:47:25.840 of what he's done there, is taking the guys he 1:47:25.920 --> 1:47:28.840 inherited who were clearly talented, and Ta deserves credit for that, 1:47:28.920 --> 1:47:31.519 em and his staff that they brought some good players there. 1:47:31.800 --> 1:47:34.320 But but Kurt and his staff have brought the most 1:47:34.360 --> 1:47:37.479 out of them. And you know, you look at Carter Smith, 1:47:37.600 --> 1:47:40.439 you look at you know, other other players who Isaiah 1:47:40.520 --> 1:47:42.599 Jones and you guy, the guys on the defensive side 1:47:42.800 --> 1:47:45.040 who have really blossomed under this staff. You know, they 1:47:45.040 --> 1:47:48.120 weren't JM you guys. They weren't guys who knew how. 1:47:48.080 --> 1:47:50.160 Kurt Signetti and Brian Haynes and the rest of that 1:47:50.240 --> 1:47:51.559 staff ticked. 1:47:51.680 --> 1:47:55.200 They have just embraced them, and they've risen up and 1:47:55.200 --> 1:47:57.439 and and become, you know, in some cases, elite players. 1:47:57.479 --> 1:48:00.719 Charlie Becker, So, I think that that's really an impressive 1:48:00.760 --> 1:48:02.559 part of it and also something that needs to be 1:48:02.560 --> 1:48:06.000 looked at when you're analyzing what Indiana can be again 1:48:06.080 --> 1:48:08.080 this year, you're naive if you don't think they're a 1:48:08.120 --> 1:48:12.280 playoff contender. They absolutely are, and they're probably going to 1:48:12.320 --> 1:48:15.040 be as long as he's there in most seasons. And 1:48:15.640 --> 1:48:17.800 part of that is the development piece. It's not just 1:48:17.880 --> 1:48:21.240 spending money on Josh Hoover and Nick Marsh and those 1:48:21.320 --> 1:48:24.280 defensive linemen from Notre Dame in Kansas State like, it's 1:48:24.320 --> 1:48:28.360 about inheriting players that maybe haven't blossomed yet and figuring 1:48:28.360 --> 1:48:29.840 out how to make them the best they can be. 1:48:29.920 --> 1:48:30.559 And they've done that. 1:48:30.760 --> 1:48:33.639 You mentioned Hoover and Marsh and I'll add in Turbo 1:48:33.760 --> 1:48:40.120 Richard as well. Impactful players at impactful positions offensively for 1:48:40.240 --> 1:48:43.519 Kurt Signetti coming up to defend their national title. How 1:48:43.520 --> 1:48:45.960 do you ultimately think that's that's going to work out, 1:48:46.120 --> 1:48:48.080 especially with that particular trio. 1:48:52.640 --> 1:48:53.599 An excellent groove. 1:48:54.160 --> 1:48:56.800 It obviously it starts with Josh, and you know, we 1:48:56.880 --> 1:48:59.479 know that Josh can be really productive, he was throughout 1:48:59.479 --> 1:49:03.559 his time at TCU. I think the key is decision 1:49:03.600 --> 1:49:08.120 making and turnovers and limiting those and obviously making great 1:49:08.120 --> 1:49:10.200 decisions in big moments. 1:49:10.240 --> 1:49:11.479 And Seg mentioned that. 1:49:11.520 --> 1:49:14.879 Yesterday that you know, Bernanda Mendoza was a great quarterback 1:49:14.880 --> 1:49:15.479 because of how he. 1:49:15.400 --> 1:49:17.000 Played in the fourth quarter of big games. 1:49:17.400 --> 1:49:19.280 And that's what Josh Hoover is going to have to 1:49:20.360 --> 1:49:22.839 do for this team to get back to the playoffs 1:49:22.840 --> 1:49:25.400 and make another run at the national title. And they're 1:49:25.439 --> 1:49:28.439 certainly having guys like Nick marsh and Charlie Becker, who 1:49:28.520 --> 1:49:31.440 was really one of the true stars of the postseason 1:49:31.520 --> 1:49:35.200 last year, you know, gives this Indiana passing game a 1:49:35.280 --> 1:49:35.880 real chance. 1:49:35.920 --> 1:49:37.839 And the thing that I love about. 1:49:37.600 --> 1:49:40.200 Their offense though, is their commitment to the run. No 1:49:40.200 --> 1:49:42.639 matter how a game is going, no matter how the opponent, 1:49:43.280 --> 1:49:44.840 you know, how good or bad they are, they are 1:49:44.880 --> 1:49:47.200 going to run the ball with multiple backs and that 1:49:47.320 --> 1:49:49.840 was a big part of their success last year. And 1:49:49.920 --> 1:49:53.880 I think, you know, guys like Turbo Richard, you know, 1:49:53.880 --> 1:49:56.120 will help them sustain that approach this year. 1:49:56.280 --> 1:50:02.400 Who most impresses you either on the inbound new or holdovers. Defensively, 1:50:02.439 --> 1:50:04.000 speaking for AYU this year. 1:50:05.280 --> 1:50:08.000 Well, I think Tyreek Tucker is a National Defensive Player 1:50:08.000 --> 1:50:08.719 of the Year candidate. 1:50:08.720 --> 1:50:11.640 He's certainly an Outland Trophy candidate in defensive tackle, and 1:50:11.880 --> 1:50:13.160 he is a jam you guy. 1:50:13.000 --> 1:50:15.800 Who's who's still there, and I I just I love 1:50:15.840 --> 1:50:18.840 the way he plays. I love how consistent he is, 1:50:18.880 --> 1:50:22.240 how durable he is, and that gives you a real chance, 1:50:22.520 --> 1:50:24.120 you know, when when you when you have a guy 1:50:24.120 --> 1:50:26.320 in the middle of your defensive line who can be 1:50:26.400 --> 1:50:29.880 disruptive and who's also really reliable. So you know, I 1:50:29.920 --> 1:50:31.120 think he's one and. 1:50:31.040 --> 1:50:31.320 You know that. 1:50:31.360 --> 1:50:34.920 I think that linebacking group of Elijah Hardy and Isaiah 1:50:35.000 --> 1:50:37.560 Jones gives you a lot of excitement. And you know, 1:50:37.600 --> 1:50:39.559 I was there in the spring and uh, you know, 1:50:39.600 --> 1:50:41.680 saw them practice, and you know that that's a that's 1:50:41.720 --> 1:50:42.879 an elite level defense. 1:50:42.960 --> 1:50:44.320 I think still and I know. 1:50:44.280 --> 1:50:47.360 There's a lot of confidence in terms of internally about 1:50:47.640 --> 1:50:48.320 what they can be. 1:50:48.439 --> 1:50:50.400 Even though they lose some really. 1:50:50.160 --> 1:50:52.840 Good players, you know, D'Angelo Pond's it's very difficult to 1:50:52.880 --> 1:50:55.240 replace the guy like that. I mean Dangel Pons is 1:50:55.320 --> 1:50:56.960 six foot or six y one. He's like a top 1:50:57.000 --> 1:50:59.000 ten pick. I mean, he was that good of a player. 1:50:59.360 --> 1:51:02.360 So that's up to replace. But they do hold over 1:51:02.479 --> 1:51:05.200 some really good players, and they also brought in some 1:51:05.280 --> 1:51:08.200 transfers who I think can help them at least at 1:51:08.200 --> 1:51:09.679 the at the Edgresher spot. 1:51:09.960 --> 1:51:13.080 Adam Rittenberg. He is of a ESPN on ESPN dot 1:51:13.080 --> 1:51:16.360 com talking Big ten college football on the any more 1:51:16.400 --> 1:51:20.720 Automotive group potline. So Barry Odom and the boiler Makers 1:51:21.080 --> 1:51:25.760 and trying to get back to the level of respectability 1:51:25.880 --> 1:51:29.520 and then make something happen in Wesse Lafayette with our program. 1:51:29.560 --> 1:51:31.679 Where do you expect them to be this season? 1:51:32.840 --> 1:51:34.360 Yeah, I think they'll be better. It couldn't be a 1:51:34.400 --> 1:51:36.120 lot worse, but then that's not saying much. 1:51:36.320 --> 1:51:39.000 I just feel like they know. This felt like a 1:51:39.000 --> 1:51:41.120 full off season for them, and a. 1:51:41.080 --> 1:51:43.800 Large part of the struggle last year was how late 1:51:44.200 --> 1:51:46.680 they got some of the players on campus that they 1:51:46.680 --> 1:51:49.880 were going to be relying on. And I don't think 1:51:49.880 --> 1:51:53.320 they had that same issue from talking to Barry and 1:51:53.640 --> 1:51:56.080 I mean his general manager was there as well in Chicago. 1:51:56.120 --> 1:51:57.920 I think they feel like they've been. 1:51:57.800 --> 1:51:59.960 With this group now since the end of last year, 1:52:00.200 --> 1:52:03.200 with obviously some new additions, but some of their core 1:52:03.240 --> 1:52:06.720 pieces from last year are back, and I just think 1:52:06.760 --> 1:52:10.439 certain areas will be a little bit more reliable. Depth 1:52:10.520 --> 1:52:13.720 should should help them now. It's the schedule doesn't do 1:52:13.760 --> 1:52:16.360 them any favors. With Notre Dame and Wake Forest, a 1:52:16.400 --> 1:52:19.160 team that surprisingly won nine games last year. 1:52:19.479 --> 1:52:20.439 Jake Dicker is the heck. 1:52:20.320 --> 1:52:22.839 Of a coach who has roots here in the Midwest, 1:52:22.840 --> 1:52:24.559 so that's going to be a tough game. And then 1:52:24.560 --> 1:52:27.240 obviously the Big Ten schedule, but I think we'll see 1:52:27.240 --> 1:52:31.599 a perdu team that's more competitive returning quarterback and Ryan Brown, 1:52:31.720 --> 1:52:34.080 and I know that Barry is really excited about what 1:52:34.120 --> 1:52:35.080 he can do this year. 1:52:35.120 --> 1:52:38.679 So Adam Brittenberg with us. So yeah, obviously the major 1:52:39.040 --> 1:52:43.400 coaching landscape changes in college football. You can, to me 1:52:43.800 --> 1:52:47.800 make the significant argument and Arbor Happy Valley and then 1:52:47.840 --> 1:52:51.360 East Lansing. How will things work out in years number 1:52:51.439 --> 1:52:55.680 one for these trio of coaches and really two of 1:52:55.760 --> 1:52:58.800 the three places where the level of expectations are going 1:52:58.840 --> 1:53:01.840 to be substantial out of the G eight, no doubt. 1:53:01.880 --> 1:53:03.759 And I think of the three, you know, Penn State 1:53:04.240 --> 1:53:06.679 to me has the best chance to make the playoff, 1:53:07.280 --> 1:53:09.840 you know, because of you know who Matt brought with 1:53:09.960 --> 1:53:12.640 him from Iowa State, some really good players who have 1:53:13.160 --> 1:53:17.040 been in big games over the years, including quarterback Rock Obec, 1:53:17.080 --> 1:53:19.680 but also some really good defensive players and you know, 1:53:20.120 --> 1:53:21.320 alignment and on. 1:53:21.280 --> 1:53:23.960 Both sides of the ball, players like that. You know, 1:53:23.960 --> 1:53:24.800 they also have a very. 1:53:24.680 --> 1:53:28.040 Favorable schedule relatively speaking. You know, nobody out out of 1:53:28.120 --> 1:53:30.479 conference in a power for a league, and then a 1:53:30.479 --> 1:53:35.040 Big ten schedule that doesn't include Ohio State, Oregon, or Indiana, 1:53:35.160 --> 1:53:38.120 so you know, Penn State. Anything less than nine wins 1:53:38.120 --> 1:53:39.800 I think will be looked at a disappointing and if 1:53:39.800 --> 1:53:42.639 you win ten, you're probably in the playoffs. You're Michigan 1:53:42.680 --> 1:53:43.520 will be fascinating. 1:53:43.680 --> 1:53:47.080 You know, Kyle is sixty six years old. He's not 1:53:47.120 --> 1:53:49.320 gonna be coaching there for ten years. 1:53:49.600 --> 1:53:50.559 He's there to win. 1:53:51.160 --> 1:53:53.599 I don't know if they're ready to win at at 1:53:53.600 --> 1:53:56.400 an elite level, but I think they're a team that 1:53:56.439 --> 1:53:59.080 can be better than it was in certain elements last year. 1:53:59.200 --> 1:54:01.040 I think they're gonna run the ball really well. 1:54:01.520 --> 1:54:04.479 I think they're going to play good defense, possibly great defense, 1:54:04.520 --> 1:54:07.120 and his teams are always very strong on special teams. 1:54:07.120 --> 1:54:09.599 It was one of the strengths that had at Utah. 1:54:09.640 --> 1:54:12.519 I just don't know. The quarterback situation is a major question. 1:54:13.120 --> 1:54:16.519 If they're going to, you know, be a substantially better 1:54:16.840 --> 1:54:20.160 passing offense, and they've been really at the bottom of 1:54:20.200 --> 1:54:22.360 the FBS and passing the last couple. 1:54:22.160 --> 1:54:24.040 Of years, So that's certainly an area to watch. 1:54:24.400 --> 1:54:25.880 I think we're Michigan State. They've got a lot of 1:54:25.960 --> 1:54:28.600 work to do. I don't think the rosters where it 1:54:28.640 --> 1:54:32.120 needs to be. The league is very tough, and I 1:54:32.160 --> 1:54:34.320 think it's going to take some time for Pat Fitzgerald 1:54:34.360 --> 1:54:37.040 to get that thing going again. But you look at 1:54:37.080 --> 1:54:39.240 Indiana and you look at other examples, and you know 1:54:39.240 --> 1:54:41.000 if you have you feel you have the right coach 1:54:41.080 --> 1:54:44.000 and the right approach, they can rise up to the 1:54:44.040 --> 1:54:47.000 issue that I have with him is is the offense 1:54:47.280 --> 1:54:49.920 completely fell apart towards the end of his time at Northwestern. 1:54:49.920 --> 1:54:52.160 Even when they were winning some of some of those years, 1:54:52.200 --> 1:54:55.160 their offense was near the bottom and in almost every category. 1:54:55.240 --> 1:54:57.520 So if there, if they're more if they have it 1:54:57.600 --> 1:55:00.600 together on offense in Michigan State, I'll have more confidence 1:55:00.600 --> 1:55:04.120 that they can rise up a very tough Big ten ranks. 1:55:04.120 --> 1:55:05.320 So a little bit faster. 1:55:05.240 --> 1:55:09.000 Is so last year you beat the Ducks in your 1:55:09.080 --> 1:55:11.560 gene beat them again in the Peach Bowl to advance 1:55:11.600 --> 1:55:14.880 to the National Championship Game. For Dan Lanning and the Ducks, 1:55:15.160 --> 1:55:21.480 is this a championship game advancement or bust for this 1:55:21.600 --> 1:55:23.160 group that he has this year. 1:55:24.520 --> 1:55:27.000 I think it's a team that I hate to say this, 1:55:27.080 --> 1:55:28.960 it almost doesn't matter what they do in the regular 1:55:29.000 --> 1:55:32.360 season unless they lose enough games not to make the playoff, 1:55:32.360 --> 1:55:35.240 which would then be a major disappointment. But whether they 1:55:35.280 --> 1:55:39.040 win eleven, whether they win ten, it's about what they 1:55:39.040 --> 1:55:42.040 do in the playoffs, right because two years ago they 1:55:42.040 --> 1:55:45.400 were undefeated, number one team, won the Big Ten and 1:55:45.400 --> 1:55:48.800 then they just get blasted by Ohio State. This past year, 1:55:49.320 --> 1:55:51.600 again a really good team that just had lost to 1:55:51.640 --> 1:55:55.440 Indiana but was certainly capable of advancing in the playoff. 1:55:55.440 --> 1:55:57.640 They won two games and then Indiana blast them. So 1:55:58.440 --> 1:56:01.280 how they perform in the playoff is really going to 1:56:01.680 --> 1:56:04.480 tape how we look at the season for Oregon, and 1:56:04.520 --> 1:56:07.400 it's a big reason why Dante Moore came back at 1:56:07.440 --> 1:56:11.120 quarterback while their entire starting defensive line has come back. 1:56:11.160 --> 1:56:14.480 I think their offensive skill will be deeper and better 1:56:14.520 --> 1:56:16.680 than it was last year. They had a lot of 1:56:16.720 --> 1:56:20.080 injuries at running back, receiver, and tight end. If they 1:56:20.080 --> 1:56:22.480 can stay healthy at those positions, this should be a 1:56:22.520 --> 1:56:25.600 top five offense with Dante Moore leading the way. So 1:56:26.000 --> 1:56:29.440 I think, yeah, anything other than the deep playoff run 1:56:30.000 --> 1:56:32.760 will be looked at as disappointing given what Oregon has 1:56:32.840 --> 1:56:33.400 coming back. 1:56:33.480 --> 1:56:39.560 All right, hot seat, Lincoln Riley your number five, lukewarm. 1:56:39.640 --> 1:56:44.320 The hotter seat Matt Rule in Lincoln with the corn Huskers. 1:56:44.400 --> 1:56:46.240 Let's start with those two programs. 1:56:46.760 --> 1:56:48.280 Yeah, I don't think MAT's on the hot seat. I 1:56:48.320 --> 1:56:51.400 mean they gave him an extension when all the Penn 1:56:51.440 --> 1:56:53.720 State stuff was going on. You know, whether they end 1:56:53.800 --> 1:56:56.000 up forgetting regretting it or not, what we'll find out. 1:56:56.360 --> 1:56:58.880 But they do not want to fire Matt Rules. So yeah, 1:56:58.920 --> 1:57:03.200 Lincoln Riley's in a really interesting place because he believes 1:57:03.200 --> 1:57:05.400 this is a team that can make the College Football Playoff. 1:57:05.720 --> 1:57:08.560 He's no longer complaining about what USC doesn't have or 1:57:08.560 --> 1:57:10.480 what he inherited from Clay Helton. 1:57:11.840 --> 1:57:13.880 They feel like this roster. 1:57:13.720 --> 1:57:17.920 Is certainly strong enough and doesn't have many obvious holes. 1:57:18.000 --> 1:57:20.120 And so the challenge for them is going to be 1:57:20.160 --> 1:57:23.160 their schedule. So they have five critical games, three at 1:57:23.160 --> 1:57:28.480 home with Washington, Oregon, and Ohio State, and then two 1:57:28.520 --> 1:57:32.080 on the road ten State in Indiana. And so I 1:57:32.080 --> 1:57:34.240 think they'll win at least one of those ones at home, 1:57:34.240 --> 1:57:36.560 but if they can win two and then split the 1:57:36.640 --> 1:57:39.360 road games, I think they're going to the College Football Playoff. 1:57:39.440 --> 1:57:41.160 But if they go one in four or zero in 1:57:41.280 --> 1:57:44.280 five in that stretch, then USC maybe looking for a 1:57:44.320 --> 1:57:46.760 new coach. It's that simple. And why this is such 1:57:46.760 --> 1:57:48.000 a huge season for Lincoln. 1:57:48.120 --> 1:57:51.720 How about in Wisconsin and Madison with Luke Fickle in company? 1:57:51.840 --> 1:57:53.880 Is this going to be a year where they do 1:57:54.120 --> 1:57:57.440 a lot more? And I'm assuming Badger fans would expect it, 1:57:57.520 --> 1:57:59.640 But what do you expect out of that program? 1:58:00.760 --> 1:58:01.480 I think they'll be better. 1:58:01.640 --> 1:58:03.880 I was up there watching them practice the spring. I 1:58:03.880 --> 1:58:06.840 think if they can stay healthier at key positions, namely 1:58:06.920 --> 1:58:09.440 quarterback because they've had no health at quarterback the last 1:58:09.440 --> 1:58:12.160 two years, that they're going to be a better football team. 1:58:12.320 --> 1:58:15.360 I think the challenge is can you get through September 1:58:16.160 --> 1:58:20.720 with limited injuries and decent enough morale Because you have 1:58:21.080 --> 1:58:24.839 Notre Dame to begin with at lambeau Field at the opener. 1:58:25.320 --> 1:58:27.800 Notre Dame hasn't played since last November. They're going to 1:58:27.800 --> 1:58:29.760 be incredibly fired up for this one and I think 1:58:29.760 --> 1:58:33.400 they'll probably win easily. And then Wisconsin also has to 1:58:33.440 --> 1:58:35.560 go to Penn State, so that if you can get 1:58:35.560 --> 1:58:38.640 through that September stretch, you have a schedule that isn't 1:58:38.640 --> 1:58:42.720 loaded with contenders. I don't think there's Ohio State, Indiana, 1:58:43.000 --> 1:58:46.600 Oregon on that schedule either. So Wisconsin's got an opportunity 1:58:46.960 --> 1:58:49.360 to pile up some wins and start to feel better 1:58:49.400 --> 1:58:52.160 about a trajectory. And from talking to Luke in Chicago, 1:58:52.800 --> 1:58:55.560 I think he feels much better about the leadership. He's 1:58:55.600 --> 1:58:58.280 excited about Colton Joseph, who's a different type of quarterback, 1:58:58.360 --> 1:59:01.840 dual threat coming in from from Old Dominion. They think 1:59:01.840 --> 1:59:04.480 they can run the ball a lot more efficiently this year, 1:59:04.840 --> 1:59:08.000 and then defensively, he like likes some of their star 1:59:08.080 --> 1:59:11.240 players there, Mason Posta among them. So they've got a chance. 1:59:11.560 --> 1:59:13.360 It's just, you know, how are they going to emerge 1:59:13.360 --> 1:59:15.280 from September with those two big games. 1:59:15.360 --> 1:59:19.040 Adam Brettenberg's with us regarding Big ten in college football, 1:59:19.400 --> 1:59:22.120 give me a surprise team or two in your estimation. 1:59:22.200 --> 1:59:25.160 As we said here right now, you. 1:59:25.080 --> 1:59:28.480 Know it's I don't know if Minnesota would be a surprise, 1:59:28.960 --> 1:59:30.840 but I think that they're a team that has been 1:59:30.920 --> 1:59:33.760 right on the cusp of breaking through winning seven eight 1:59:33.800 --> 1:59:36.440 games pretty much every year. I think with a returning. 1:59:36.160 --> 1:59:37.879 Quarterback and Drake Lindsay. 1:59:38.160 --> 1:59:39.920 They have one of the best pass rushers in college 1:59:39.960 --> 1:59:43.240 football and Anthony Smith, a lot of other returning players. 1:59:43.400 --> 1:59:46.240 I think they're one to watch potentially. And then Washington, 1:59:47.080 --> 1:59:48.600 you know, again, they were a team that took a 1:59:48.600 --> 1:59:49.800 step forward last year. 1:59:50.040 --> 1:59:50.919 They need to. 1:59:50.720 --> 1:59:53.280 Play better in the big games, especially away from Seattle, 1:59:53.520 --> 1:59:56.520 but they bring back Demon Williams junior, who briefly entered 1:59:56.520 --> 2:00:01.800 the transfer portal in January, and ultimately and Jed Fish 2:00:01.880 --> 2:00:04.480 was talking about the defense, you know, under the leadership 2:00:04.480 --> 2:00:07.400 of former Purdue head coach Ryan Walters, possibly being a 2:00:07.440 --> 2:00:10.160 top ten unit this year. That's how confident he feels 2:00:10.200 --> 2:00:11.760 in that side of the ball. And if that's the case, 2:00:11.800 --> 2:00:13.840 like they can be a very disruptive team. They go 2:00:13.880 --> 2:00:17.240 to usc Indiana has to go there, like that's gonna 2:00:17.240 --> 2:00:19.200 be a tough out if they can stay healthy. 2:00:19.240 --> 2:00:21.000 They didn't take a lot of transfers, which to me 2:00:21.120 --> 2:00:22.320 indicates that their. 2:00:22.200 --> 2:00:25.200 Coaching staff is really confident in who they have coming back. 2:00:25.320 --> 2:00:28.480 So I think Washington's a really interesting team to watch. 2:00:28.480 --> 2:00:30.840 And you know, as far as others, you know, Nebraska, 2:00:30.880 --> 2:00:33.080 maybe they finally put it together this year. I like 2:00:33.120 --> 2:00:37.280 their quarterback transfer Anthony Philandria. You know, Northwestern has Chip 2:00:37.360 --> 2:00:39.440 Kelly as their offensive coordinator, although they have a really 2:00:39.440 --> 2:00:42.120 tough schedule, so it might be tough to have major 2:00:42.160 --> 2:00:44.520 progress until year two. But yeah, I think I think 2:00:44.960 --> 2:00:47.000 Washington and Minnesota or two that I'm interested in. 2:00:47.040 --> 2:00:49.480 I'm going to ask you about this because AU kicks 2:00:49.520 --> 2:00:53.120 off their season again in defense of their national championship 2:00:53.120 --> 2:00:55.240 at home against North Texas and. 2:00:55.240 --> 2:00:55.960 The Main Green. 2:00:56.600 --> 2:00:58.400 They were good a year ago. I think they lost 2:00:58.440 --> 2:01:01.120 a little bit, but there's an interesting dynamic it work here. 2:01:01.160 --> 2:01:04.840 And I'm sure you've noticed that former Hoosier and Trace 2:01:04.960 --> 2:01:08.480 Jackson Davis, who was a standout baller and in the 2:01:08.600 --> 2:01:13.680 NBA right now of IU, his younger brother, Tavian Jackson, 2:01:14.080 --> 2:01:17.160 is quarterbacking the Mean Green. Does that stand out to 2:01:17.240 --> 2:01:20.800 you as one of the start to the season types 2:01:20.840 --> 2:01:24.480 of games, especially for the defending national champions. 2:01:24.440 --> 2:01:28.240 Well, you know, it's certainly interesting for Indiana fans because 2:01:28.280 --> 2:01:32.120 of the of the Jackson family ties to the school, 2:01:32.160 --> 2:01:35.320 But that situation is more common than you think because 2:01:35.360 --> 2:01:39.839 of the mobility of quarterbacks. You know, Aiden Childs, for example, 2:01:40.320 --> 2:01:43.320 left Michigan State. He's at Northwestern. Northwestern plays at Michigan 2:01:43.320 --> 2:01:46.920 State this year. Like those situations tend to happen. But 2:01:47.480 --> 2:01:50.840 I think the real intrigue is Indiana and hey, they're 2:01:50.880 --> 2:01:52.280 defending their national championship. 2:01:52.320 --> 2:01:53.200 How are they going to look? 2:01:53.360 --> 2:01:55.440 How's Josh Houver going to look? Is it going to 2:01:55.520 --> 2:01:58.760 feel the same as it did last year when they 2:01:58.760 --> 2:02:01.760 were so dominant really for start to finish in these. 2:02:01.560 --> 2:02:02.600 Non conference games? 2:02:02.680 --> 2:02:04.720 Or are they going to get off to a slow start. 2:02:04.800 --> 2:02:07.880 But yeah, at the Quarterback Reunion, even though it does 2:02:07.880 --> 2:02:11.680 happen around college football, it's always another layer too. You know, 2:02:11.840 --> 2:02:14.840 doesn't look like a superbly exciting game to start the 2:02:14.840 --> 2:02:15.640 season for IU. 2:02:16.240 --> 2:02:19.760 Adam Rittenberg of ESPN on ESPN dot com, I know 2:02:19.920 --> 2:02:22.720 you've been writing a lot regarding I you and your 2:02:22.760 --> 2:02:25.520 coverage of Chicago on the Big ten media days. What's 2:02:25.600 --> 2:02:27.800 on the horizon for you, Adam? 2:02:28.240 --> 2:02:32.240 Yeah, some national pieces coming out, one on quarterbacks and 2:02:32.520 --> 2:02:34.640 talking to coaches around the country on what they think 2:02:34.680 --> 2:02:39.440 of some of the top returning quarterbacks. Have I actually 2:02:39.440 --> 2:02:42.080 do working on a piece about the next Indiana and 2:02:42.520 --> 2:02:47.800 really diving into profiles of universities and programs that maybe 2:02:47.840 --> 2:02:50.680 we overlooked. I mean, I for one did not realize 2:02:50.840 --> 2:02:53.800 how large the Indiana alumni base was and how capable 2:02:53.840 --> 2:02:56.760 it was, and who else might have those ingredients along 2:02:56.800 --> 2:03:00.480 with the coach and administration and support to breakthrough. So 2:03:00.480 --> 2:03:03.360 that'll be another piece that we'll we'll have out in August. 2:03:03.520 --> 2:03:07.640 So yeah, that that dynamic and the Big Ten and 2:03:07.720 --> 2:03:12.160 IU and the SEC. That is pretty awesome because these 2:03:12.200 --> 2:03:16.640 are all scenarios where you never really thought you'd be 2:03:16.720 --> 2:03:19.640 having this discussion. Yet Adam, here we are. It's awesome, 2:03:21.320 --> 2:03:21.680 it is. 2:03:21.800 --> 2:03:23.680 And again, I you know, as someone who's covered the 2:03:23.680 --> 2:03:26.960 Big Ten for many years, when it was down, you really. 2:03:26.760 --> 2:03:27.960 Couldn't say anything right. 2:03:28.040 --> 2:03:30.440 The SEC would would would would talk its talk, and 2:03:30.440 --> 2:03:32.280 the Big Ten just had to kind of take it. 2:03:32.480 --> 2:03:35.560 And now the SEC is making these ridiculous arguments about 2:03:35.600 --> 2:03:39.160 depths and now their schedule is too hard. It's just laughable. 2:03:39.400 --> 2:03:41.720 From a big I loved what SIGG said, like like 2:03:42.200 --> 2:03:44.560 when when the Big Ten is down, we take it, 2:03:44.760 --> 2:03:47.320 and when you're down, you guys cry about it, Like 2:03:47.560 --> 2:03:49.920 that's absolutely what you thought would happen. 2:03:49.680 --> 2:03:52.200 If the table's ever turned, and now they have. 2:03:52.360 --> 2:03:54.040 And I don't know how long it's gonna last, but 2:03:54.280 --> 2:03:57.120 I'll tell you this, if Oregon wins the national title, 2:03:57.160 --> 2:03:59.840 and it's four for four with four different teams and the. 2:04:00.040 --> 2:04:01.240 CCS not in that game. 2:04:01.480 --> 2:04:04.360 It's going to be a really rough offseason for folks 2:04:04.360 --> 2:04:04.880 down south. 2:04:05.160 --> 2:04:07.800 Do you have a selection for the Big Ten title 2:04:07.840 --> 2:04:09.240 game right now? 2:04:10.600 --> 2:04:13.400 You know, it's hard not to think it's some combination 2:04:13.560 --> 2:04:18.240 of Oregon, Ohio State, Indiana, although again, as I know, 2:04:18.320 --> 2:04:21.800 the Penn State because of their schedule, could be sitting there, 2:04:22.000 --> 2:04:24.640 you know, at ten and two, eleven and one with 2:04:25.040 --> 2:04:28.880 really a chance to squeak in there because their schedule 2:04:28.960 --> 2:04:30.000 just isn't as tough as. 2:04:29.880 --> 2:04:30.840 Some of those other teams. 2:04:30.880 --> 2:04:33.840 But you're curious if USC can can can really back 2:04:33.920 --> 2:04:36.480 up with Lincoln is saying, and some of these other 2:04:36.480 --> 2:04:39.320 contenders Washington, Michigan and so forth. But I think it'll 2:04:39.320 --> 2:04:42.720 be some combo of IU, Oregon, and Ohio State again. 2:04:42.520 --> 2:04:44.880 Anam, we'll do it again soon, man. I appreciate the time. 2:04:44.920 --> 2:04:48.440 Good stuff, all right, thanks for having me, Adam Rittenberg 2:04:48.720 --> 2:04:53.000 of esp and ESPN dot com a college football Big 2:04:53.120 --> 2:05:00.480 Ten resource that was outstanding right there, really was all 2:05:00.520 --> 2:05:04.080 over the map, which we need to be. We didn't 2:05:04.080 --> 2:05:09.200 even bring up Brett bi La Money Illinois barely hit 2:05:09.240 --> 2:05:15.520 on Wisconsin, barely hit on Nebraska. Washington was a jetfish 2:05:15.960 --> 2:05:18.600 their coach. There's another one we didn't bring up where 2:05:18.640 --> 2:05:22.280 I think a lot of people think could be a 2:05:22.400 --> 2:05:26.200 surprise team of the Big Ten. We shall see, and 2:05:26.480 --> 2:05:28.720 we shall take a break. We'll come back. We'll go 2:05:28.760 --> 2:05:31.320 over what we've done so far today. We'll get you 2:05:31.440 --> 2:05:34.000 set for some state fair passes before the end of 2:05:34.000 --> 2:05:38.080 this show and exciting weekend the fever later on tonight. 2:05:38.120 --> 2:05:43.120 Did JMV takeover tomorrow night? Maybe some inclement weather, some 2:05:43.200 --> 2:05:47.040 stormy weather on the inbound. We'll find out right now, 2:05:47.160 --> 2:05:50.080 your weather updated? Are you ready? Cardisy at Fox fifty 2:05:50.160 --> 2:05:59.680 nine The Ride with JMV. Kids need their summer. 2:06:00.480 --> 2:06:03.080 Stop jacking with it that he three five and one 2:06:03.120 --> 2:06:05.240 oh seven five the fan. 2:06:06.400 --> 2:06:12.280 Don't jack with it. Mike's score right here. And a 2:06:12.400 --> 2:06:13.680 flock of seagulls. 2:06:13.720 --> 2:06:15.360 I love the flock of seagulls. 2:06:16.760 --> 2:06:20.720 You like this song? Yeah, dude, I saw a flock 2:06:20.760 --> 2:06:25.680 of seagulls maybe h four years ago, something like that, 2:06:25.800 --> 2:06:28.280 three four years ago around here. I'm still fat at 2:06:28.280 --> 2:06:31.520 the time. You're in the fat face. That's how you 2:06:31.680 --> 2:06:39.360 keep track of time like that? Yeah, I know it 2:06:40.200 --> 2:06:47.080 s f still fat and what's funny? I had no idea. 2:06:48.440 --> 2:06:51.960 It's like moving along. Everything's okay. I'm still hooping like that. 2:06:52.160 --> 2:06:55.240 I did walk a lot more than than I do now. 2:06:56.760 --> 2:07:00.360 But now Mike's score and a flock of seagulls. Somebody 2:07:00.360 --> 2:07:04.280 just asked me, if you won the Howard Jones tickets, 2:07:04.720 --> 2:07:08.280 let me know next week, because I've always said they 2:07:08.600 --> 2:07:15.680 normally email the winners concert tickets the week leading up 2:07:15.720 --> 2:07:20.760 to the show. So if you're still looking. For example, 2:07:20.800 --> 2:07:24.040 we gave away Howard Jones, it's Howard Jones, English Beat, 2:07:24.120 --> 2:07:27.840 Modern English and Wang Chung a week from tonight at 2:07:27.920 --> 2:07:30.920 Everwise Amphitheater. I'm going to be going. Howard Jones is 2:07:30.920 --> 2:07:32.960 going to join me coming up next week. I believe. 2:07:33.040 --> 2:07:38.640 I love Howard Jones. Always awesome. But that's it ever 2:07:38.680 --> 2:07:42.760 Wise coming up a week from tonight. But normally when 2:07:42.760 --> 2:07:47.400 we give away tickets promotions, I think send those out 2:07:47.640 --> 2:07:51.920 a couple of days prior to the shows. So sit 2:07:52.040 --> 2:07:56.720 tight on that one if you would not mind, because 2:07:56.960 --> 2:08:00.000 at some point that's going to be coming to you. 2:08:01.280 --> 2:08:04.080 And as well, you've got Garth Brooks that's coming up 2:08:04.720 --> 2:08:08.600 four dates in all the Gambridge field House in the 2:08:08.680 --> 2:08:14.080 not so distant future. So just keep me updated two 2:08:14.800 --> 2:08:18.240 and I will ask folks, tell folks exactly what needs 2:08:18.280 --> 2:08:21.880 to be done in that capacity and promotions. But protocol 2:08:22.080 --> 2:08:27.040 is again normally a couple of days prior, if not less. 2:08:27.760 --> 2:08:33.120 But watch your email when you get an email from US, 2:08:33.360 --> 2:08:36.000 either email or text. I'm assuming it's an email in 2:08:36.040 --> 2:08:41.120 this case. But yeah, coming up next week, you've got 2:08:41.120 --> 2:08:45.000 Howard Jones. I don't know what is what's this week? 2:08:45.280 --> 2:08:47.360 Do we know what's going on in rue off tonight 2:08:47.920 --> 2:08:51.760 or this weekend? I have not checked on that. I 2:08:51.800 --> 2:08:55.600 know next week you have Howard Jones and the concert, 2:08:55.800 --> 2:08:58.400 the eighties concert that I talked about it. Neverwise, I 2:08:58.400 --> 2:09:01.920 believe a Conte Prairie. You have the Fan four that 2:09:02.160 --> 2:09:07.440 is the Beatles tribute band. What's that rule offh this weekend? Anything? 2:09:07.600 --> 2:09:11.680 Train tomorrow? Oh yeah, Trump's sorry. Train is tomorrow and 2:09:11.720 --> 2:09:13.760 then sticks in Chicago on Sunday. 2:09:13.880 --> 2:09:16.160 Yeah. 2:09:16.520 --> 2:09:21.160 Now, what's what's the guy's name Monahan from Train? Yeah? 2:09:21.440 --> 2:09:22.200 I think that's it. 2:09:22.320 --> 2:09:27.600 Yeah, something Monahan. He's actually been on here before too, 2:09:28.400 --> 2:09:30.760 Pat Monahan, which is the reason why I don't know 2:09:30.800 --> 2:09:35.320 his first name. Yeah, Pat Monahan, Train he was actually 2:09:35.400 --> 2:09:40.240 really good? Is train? Train is one of those bands 2:09:40.280 --> 2:09:44.000 to where no matter what's going on, they're on tour 2:09:44.040 --> 2:09:46.520 in the summertime and a lot of people go they're 2:09:46.560 --> 2:09:50.240 just a sing along group. What's what's the favorite Train song? Out? 2:09:50.400 --> 2:09:51.280 Drops a Jupiter? 2:09:52.600 --> 2:09:54.120 Nothing name now that song? 2:09:54.240 --> 2:09:54.400 Right? 2:09:54.480 --> 2:09:58.200 Yeah? What about I'm trying to think of. There are 2:09:58.200 --> 2:10:01.720 a couple of others there too, Drops of Jupiter? Is 2:10:01.760 --> 2:10:03.840 there something soul sister kind of thing? 2:10:05.640 --> 2:10:08.520 Drive By would be another one. They hate soul Sister too, 2:10:08.840 --> 2:10:09.360 Is that right? 2:10:09.520 --> 2:10:11.360 Is that what they do? I believe that they do. 2:10:11.840 --> 2:10:16.280 Yeah, a good call? Drive By is maybe my favorite. 2:10:17.560 --> 2:10:20.720 There is one and I'm trying to remember it right 2:10:20.760 --> 2:10:30.800 now that I can't. That's too bad. I don't even 2:10:30.840 --> 2:10:36.120 know how popular it is. But the ten most popular 2:10:36.200 --> 2:10:37.520 Train song that's Tomorrow Night? 2:10:37.640 --> 2:10:37.800 Right? 2:10:38.160 --> 2:10:41.560 Yes? Have you ever heard Fifty Ways to Say Goodbye? 2:10:41.640 --> 2:10:42.240 That's what I like? 2:10:42.400 --> 2:10:43.880 Yeah, that one's really good? 2:10:44.000 --> 2:10:49.640 John, Yeah, yeah that yes, Yeah, I don't mind that 2:10:49.880 --> 2:10:54.920 fifty Ways to say Goodbye. I believe Pat Monaghan is 2:10:54.960 --> 2:10:59.400 from northern Ohio? Was he not around Cleveland? You guys 2:10:59.400 --> 2:11:00.360 are broth bad? 2:11:00.440 --> 2:11:01.960 This is bad ball knowledge. 2:11:01.960 --> 2:11:04.640 My guys are I think you guys are like home 2:11:04.640 --> 2:11:08.320 state bros. Right there. I believe so. 2:11:08.320 --> 2:11:12.440 So you got Erie Pennsylvania, Oh well, I mean that's close. 2:11:12.520 --> 2:11:18.480 That's northern Ohio, Pennsylvania through the Wonders were from too Erie, Pennsylvania. 2:11:19.240 --> 2:11:23.680 I'm just fictitiously. The Wonders were from Erie, Pennsylvania. Chicago 2:11:24.080 --> 2:11:29.240 and Sticks coming up on Sunday too great sing along 2:11:29.440 --> 2:11:34.400 bands for everybody to enjoy. So I have some fun 2:11:34.440 --> 2:11:37.480 with that, and my microphone keeps getting all limp here, 2:11:37.480 --> 2:11:38.040 what's happening? 2:11:38.200 --> 2:11:41.520 What was it during h all the time you hit it? 2:11:42.040 --> 2:11:44.240 We're getting soft on me right here, you hit it 2:11:44.360 --> 2:11:47.800 during the heavy interview. I think I wonder if anybody 2:11:47.880 --> 2:11:48.400 else heard that. 2:11:49.800 --> 2:11:52.520 Damn v I hear you talking about the pacers and 2:11:53.160 --> 2:11:56.440 diz owned. Do we know anything concretely yet? We do 2:11:56.720 --> 2:11:59.440 not know anything. And that's why I've been an advocate 2:11:59.520 --> 2:12:02.320 by saying, hey, one side is we don't know exactly 2:12:02.400 --> 2:12:06.760 what's coming up yet, but you have to be you 2:12:06.960 --> 2:12:11.320 need to be cost efficient for the fans. I think 2:12:11.360 --> 2:12:16.040 that's fair to say. I think that's incredibly fair to say. 2:12:16.680 --> 2:12:23.320 You have to be cost efficient for the fans. Otherwise 2:12:23.360 --> 2:12:24.360 it made drive you nuts. 2:12:26.200 --> 2:12:30.080 John, I'll add this into this conversation. Mike Vorkanov, He's 2:12:30.200 --> 2:12:34.760 works for the Athletic. He reported yesterday that the Wolves 2:12:34.880 --> 2:12:39.120 like finalized their deal with the Zone yea, and again 2:12:39.400 --> 2:12:42.640 it could look different for all these teams. But he 2:12:43.200 --> 2:12:45.760 was talking about there's a detail in here in his 2:12:45.880 --> 2:12:49.360 tweet that says they're making fifteen games free for fans 2:12:49.440 --> 2:12:51.960 to watch, which, like, I don't know how to take 2:12:52.080 --> 2:12:55.040 that because I wonder if maybe the price is too 2:12:55.120 --> 2:12:57.680 high and they're like, hey, we'll give you fifteen free games, 2:12:58.440 --> 2:12:59.320 Like that concerns me. 2:12:59.360 --> 2:13:01.320 There's nothing about the price in his tweet. 2:13:01.440 --> 2:13:04.120 And then what would we average that out? Well, do 2:13:04.280 --> 2:13:08.240 you know exactly for the timber Wolves in this case, 2:13:08.360 --> 2:13:10.480 which again could be different for the Pacers, what that 2:13:10.520 --> 2:13:12.640 would average out to per. 2:13:12.640 --> 2:13:15.880 Game that that I don't know because there's nothing yet 2:13:16.240 --> 2:13:21.120 as far as what the price would be for these packages. 2:13:21.640 --> 2:13:25.240 So I don't know. I really it's hard to say. 2:13:26.480 --> 2:13:27.440 It's hard to say, but. 2:13:27.680 --> 2:13:29.600 Because somebody who was telling me that that what it 2:13:29.680 --> 2:13:32.280 comes down to is maybe about six dollars a game 2:13:33.440 --> 2:13:35.440 if it's handling that capacity, And can. 2:13:35.360 --> 2:13:38.160 I be honest, John, like there's I mean, last year 2:13:38.200 --> 2:13:40.120 you could have went to a Pacers game in person 2:13:40.240 --> 2:13:40.920 for six dollars. 2:13:40.960 --> 2:13:43.000 It's set in the two hundred seas exactly. Well, I 2:13:43.040 --> 2:13:46.040 mean that's a nineteen win season exactly. But I mean, 2:13:46.640 --> 2:13:48.680 who knows, Like if this is going to be the future. 2:13:49.000 --> 2:13:51.240 I mean, it's only going to get more expensive, right, 2:13:51.440 --> 2:13:54.840 Like you're paying to go to games, you know, the 2:13:54.880 --> 2:13:56.520 same cost of where you could go to games. 2:13:56.560 --> 2:13:59.880 So I don't know, man, I don't it's definitely. 2:14:00.360 --> 2:14:01.960 I think you've done a great job talking about it 2:14:02.040 --> 2:14:04.680 this week, and Austin Karp was great in that conversation. 2:14:04.880 --> 2:14:09.640 But you're right, we don't know, and we kind of 2:14:09.720 --> 2:14:12.280 just need to wait and see until details come out 2:14:12.320 --> 2:14:15.720 and more teams start finalizing their deals with the zone. 2:14:15.840 --> 2:14:21.280 That will h This is not a time where you 2:14:21.400 --> 2:14:25.200 want to overextend anybody, and I'm assuming that everybody with 2:14:25.280 --> 2:14:27.480 the Pacers they have that in mind. You just don't 2:14:27.520 --> 2:14:29.520 want this to be well, this is a lone option, 2:14:29.720 --> 2:14:33.760 so we had to take it. Very important season, actually 2:14:33.920 --> 2:14:39.480 very important couple of seasons for this. The last thing 2:14:39.520 --> 2:14:42.360 the NBA teams jamv need, including the Pacers, to do. 2:14:42.680 --> 2:14:45.920 You got to put the fans. First, they could do 2:14:46.000 --> 2:14:48.720 the BS streaming and also get a local station for 2:14:49.040 --> 2:14:53.360 over the air broadcast for locals. But no, if that 2:14:53.520 --> 2:14:57.839 is not the case, I will not watch again. Jennifer, 2:14:57.920 --> 2:15:00.720 We'll see. Eric says, that's my My daughter has a 2:15:00.880 --> 2:15:04.560 job with seven Brew up here in Kocomo. Shout out 2:15:04.600 --> 2:15:08.200 to Kocomo, JAMV. I enjoyed Zach Kicks on the show 2:15:08.240 --> 2:15:09.920 a little bit earlier. You're going to do that again. 2:15:10.040 --> 2:15:18.040 We indeed will do that again. Zach Kicks of Locked 2:15:18.120 --> 2:15:21.040 on Colts was very good a little bit earlier today. 2:15:21.040 --> 2:15:22.520 All right, tell me this. I know we get a 2:15:22.560 --> 2:15:25.360 little bit of extra time coming up after the top 2:15:25.400 --> 2:15:26.560 of the hour. How much do we have. 2:15:27.080 --> 2:15:29.839 We're gonna have about ten minutes, John, not ten minutes. 2:15:31.400 --> 2:15:33.240 I can call an audible on that, but that's what 2:15:33.280 --> 2:15:37.560 it's looking like right now. Ten minutes of anything goes 2:15:37.760 --> 2:15:40.440 coming up at the top of the hour. So anything 2:15:40.480 --> 2:15:42.480 you guys want to talk about, we'll probably just do 2:15:42.600 --> 2:15:44.760 the same thing here too. Anything you guys want to 2:15:44.800 --> 2:15:48.480 discuss on anything goes that's coming up at the top 2:15:48.520 --> 2:15:50.840 of the hour, about ten minutes on the clock, we 2:15:50.960 --> 2:15:53.800 shall have that. I should also mention the reason why 2:15:53.880 --> 2:15:57.480 there's no hashtag gas Pat or Pat Sullivan today is 2:15:57.560 --> 2:16:01.200 because Pat is on vacation. I believe Pat is involved 2:16:01.280 --> 2:16:06.000 in a wedding in Florida during this show today, oddly 2:16:06.480 --> 2:16:08.920 timed slash scheduled wedding. 2:16:10.800 --> 2:16:13.200 Hey two, if you're in town for gen Con? Have 2:16:13.280 --> 2:16:14.240 you ever been to gen Con? 2:16:14.480 --> 2:16:14.520 No? 2:16:14.960 --> 2:16:19.040 Me either? What's What's? Is there anybody there at What's 2:16:19.160 --> 2:16:24.000 gen Con? Are there any stars, any actors or actresses? 2:16:25.480 --> 2:16:28.040 Anything about gen Con? Is it like Days of the 2:16:28.080 --> 2:16:29.920 Dead when we had demon on here a couple of 2:16:30.000 --> 2:16:32.680 days ago? Is this gen Con? What's the highlight of 2:16:32.800 --> 2:16:35.960 gen Con? I don't know. Man dressing up like Obi 2:16:36.000 --> 2:16:38.000 wan Kenobi not the highlight. 2:16:38.560 --> 2:16:40.960 You ever seen the Leroy Jenkins video or is that 2:16:41.320 --> 2:16:42.600 reference going over your head? 2:16:43.400 --> 2:16:45.600 I have not seen Leroy Jenkins video. What is the 2:16:45.760 --> 2:16:47.119 Leroy Jenkins video? 2:16:47.240 --> 2:16:51.400 Just a I think Dungeons and Dragons famous viral clip, 2:16:52.240 --> 2:16:54.360 but yeah, that'd be the only thing. 2:16:54.400 --> 2:16:58.480 I Are there any like actors or actresses at gen Con? 2:16:58.760 --> 2:17:01.280 Because normally you have that, right, don't they have like 2:17:02.920 --> 2:17:07.240 like Q and A's with Maybe not somebody that was 2:17:07.280 --> 2:17:11.800 in Star Wars or a former Star Trek or I 2:17:11.840 --> 2:17:13.959 don't even know what all that entails today. I'm sure 2:17:13.959 --> 2:17:16.200 it's probably a lot of video games, now, is it 2:17:16.320 --> 2:17:20.080 not like video gaming? And so yeah, I don't know. 2:17:20.320 --> 2:17:21.920 Maybe I have to do some research on this and 2:17:21.959 --> 2:17:23.160 see if anybody's around here. 2:17:23.240 --> 2:17:27.039 Did anybody dress up as Thunder the Barbarian? You never watched? 2:17:27.080 --> 2:17:31.680 That cartoon had two year run fund. The reason why 2:17:31.720 --> 2:17:34.560 I know this is because I'll come home. This is serious. 2:17:34.800 --> 2:17:39.560 I'll come home from a JMV takeover and I'll get 2:17:39.600 --> 2:17:43.040 home maybe one one, one thirty in the morning, and 2:17:43.160 --> 2:17:46.920 I'll turn it on to Boomerang from the Cartoon Network 2:17:47.879 --> 2:17:52.720 and they'll have back to back episodes of sixties Johnny 2:17:52.800 --> 2:17:57.480 Quest is awesome, this with race. You ever watched the 2:17:57.560 --> 2:18:01.000 sixties Johnny Quest? Yeah? And Tim mathis And the actor 2:18:01.160 --> 2:18:04.520 most noted from Animal House is the voice of Johnny 2:18:04.560 --> 2:18:07.680 Quest when he was young. He was the voice in 2:18:07.760 --> 2:18:11.199 the nineteen sixties of Johnny Quest. And that was unique 2:18:11.280 --> 2:18:14.720 in the sixties because, you know, unlike most cartoons, I 2:18:14.760 --> 2:18:16.800 don't even know if there are any other cartoons out there, 2:18:17.400 --> 2:18:21.119 there were like losses of life, like dudes got whacked 2:18:21.920 --> 2:18:26.080 got off in Johnny Quest episodes, and that cartoon in 2:18:26.120 --> 2:18:32.360 the nineteen sixties, seriously like Henchmen were Alan so yeah, 2:18:32.440 --> 2:18:36.920 Johnny Quest But after that and had a two season 2:18:37.080 --> 2:18:44.000 run starting in nineteen eighty Thunder the Barbarian, and it 2:18:44.280 --> 2:18:48.920 was Thundar. I believe it took place in like where 2:18:48.959 --> 2:18:53.520 we are now in the two thousands. Thundar Ouhclaw the 2:18:53.640 --> 2:18:58.600 mock and Ariel who was he in nineteen eighty one? 2:18:58.640 --> 2:19:04.080 Who was the sorcerer? Ariel the smoking hot cartoon chick Aeriel. 2:19:04.640 --> 2:19:06.240 Let me tell you. I don't know if you've ever 2:19:06.320 --> 2:19:11.640 been turned on by any cartoon chicks, but that's it. 2:19:12.360 --> 2:19:16.440 Let me tell you Ariel, look up, look up, serious, 2:19:16.480 --> 2:19:19.120 look up, Aeriel from Thunderer to the Barbarians. Seeing it 2:19:19.280 --> 2:19:23.640 right now, I don't know who created that cartoon character. 2:19:25.160 --> 2:19:28.720 All right, well done, my brother, well done. Right there, 2:19:30.000 --> 2:19:35.840 Fundar Gen Con going on this weekend downtown Indie Gen Conners. 2:19:35.879 --> 2:19:40.320 If you're in town, welcome, enjoy and hit the district 2:19:40.360 --> 2:19:44.480 tip downtown not too far from you, guys are playing 2:19:44.640 --> 2:19:47.440 dungeons and Dragons on the sidewalk right there in front 2:19:47.480 --> 2:19:51.360 of the convention center, right there, right then and right there, 2:19:51.840 --> 2:19:53.920 all right, quick break, we'll come back we've got state 2:19:53.959 --> 2:19:57.640 Fair passes and anything goes as if we're not already 2:19:57.720 --> 2:19:59.680 there coming up here at the top of the hour, 2:20:00.040 --> 2:20:02.080 sit tight ninety three to five one oh seven five the. 2:20:02.120 --> 2:20:09.840 Fan the ride with JMV. That's why we played golf 2:20:09.879 --> 2:20:10.520 and relaxed. 2:20:10.640 --> 2:20:13.119 Okay, be the ball, sink the pt make the shot. 2:20:13.240 --> 2:20:15.039 You know a lot about golf that he three five 2:20:15.120 --> 2:20:17.480 and one oh seven five the fan. 2:20:17.720 --> 2:20:24.360 Fair passes number fifteen right now text line three one seven, two, three, nine, 2:20:24.520 --> 2:20:29.520 ten seventy State Fair passes number fifteen is going to 2:20:29.640 --> 2:20:36.160 go on us. This is train right here. What is 2:20:36.240 --> 2:20:37.760 it like something to say goodbye? 2:20:38.000 --> 2:20:39.480 Fifty ways to say goodbye? 2:20:41.480 --> 2:20:46.080 Let's just go for a second. Cauz it. Get yeah. 2:20:46.360 --> 2:20:50.760 I don't know the lyrics, obviously you sound like Kevin Bowen. No, 2:20:51.280 --> 2:20:54.039 I know I did those reads. They speed up clearly. 2:20:54.160 --> 2:20:56.359 He goes like a minute ten and they just squeeze 2:20:56.400 --> 2:21:00.760 it all into sixty seconds right there here. I crank 2:21:00.840 --> 2:21:07.240 this up by his part, Pat Monahanna train coming up 2:21:07.280 --> 2:21:14.080 tomorrow night at threw Off Music Center. I get number 2:21:14.080 --> 2:21:15.880 fifteen on the text line. I'm gonna look over here 2:21:15.959 --> 2:21:17.760 right now, and if you guys are half assing this, 2:21:17.920 --> 2:21:21.760 I may give these to myself. Three one seven, two, 2:21:21.879 --> 2:21:26.280 three nine, ten seventy Number fifteen's going to the State 2:21:26.520 --> 2:21:34.440 Fair far Fever tonight ten pm. The Tip nine thirty 2:21:34.680 --> 2:21:37.880 pre game. Debbie Antonelli will be doing the TV along 2:21:37.959 --> 2:21:40.360 with Pat Boyle, and she joined us a little bit earlier. 2:21:40.400 --> 2:21:44.520 Adam Rittenberg of ESPN Zach Hicks Lockdown Colts Podcast one 2:21:44.560 --> 2:21:47.640 oh seven five Thefan dot Com Mike in Brooklyn is 2:21:47.760 --> 2:21:50.400 right now. Hello, Mike JV. 2:21:50.560 --> 2:21:50.920 What's up. 2:21:51.720 --> 2:21:54.240 Good to hear from your pal. Howe things going to Brooklyn? 2:21:55.240 --> 2:21:55.600 All right? 2:21:55.720 --> 2:21:58.960 Yeah, listen, I'm psyching myself up for the season. You know, 2:21:59.120 --> 2:22:02.080 I've never entered season where I will. I haven't convinced 2:22:02.120 --> 2:22:04.520 myself that the Colts were going to win the Super Bowl, sure, 2:22:05.600 --> 2:22:08.920 irregardless of what my thoughts are, So I pulled out. 2:22:08.920 --> 2:22:11.960 I'm pulling out all the stops here with Indiana connections. 2:22:12.320 --> 2:22:14.600 Last weekend, I was in I'm doing the Guns N' 2:22:14.680 --> 2:22:18.720 Roses Triple Crown. I was in Saratoga last week and 2:22:19.400 --> 2:22:23.320 they're playing in MetLife Stadium on August twelfth, yeah, and 2:22:23.840 --> 2:22:27.560 in Vegas on August twenty second, and I will be 2:22:27.640 --> 2:22:30.640 there and I remember you saying that he's almost had 2:22:30.680 --> 2:22:35.760 them in Indiana, Indiana for the Indy five hundred, Right, 2:22:35.879 --> 2:22:38.680 So I'm thinking, yes, if all I have to do 2:22:38.879 --> 2:22:41.040 is Colts win the super Bowl, and then I need 2:22:41.120 --> 2:22:43.080 you to all do me a big favorite, you know, 2:22:43.560 --> 2:22:47.520 claim that Indiana, you know, leverage on Axel, you know, 2:22:47.920 --> 2:22:52.040 and let him be the performer for the super Bowl 2:22:52.200 --> 2:22:55.200 victory party and parade and I will be there. 2:22:55.400 --> 2:22:58.080 Got it got to be. What's your favorite GNR saw Mike, 2:23:00.080 --> 2:23:00.600 be honest with. 2:23:00.640 --> 2:23:04.720 You, I'll say a little for me. Actually, it's it's estranged. 2:23:05.080 --> 2:23:08.120 I just like the whole song, the lyrics, the way 2:23:08.160 --> 2:23:10.480 it's arranged. It's uh an epic. 2:23:11.080 --> 2:23:13.640 I gotta go mister, I always go, mister Brownstone. 2:23:15.120 --> 2:23:15.680 Good choice. 2:23:15.879 --> 2:23:18.840 And I like I like Rocket Queen too because they 2:23:18.959 --> 2:23:21.880 mix in whoever actual is having sex with in the 2:23:21.920 --> 2:23:25.920 studio at that moment. Yeah, I believe it was a bandmates. 2:23:26.440 --> 2:23:33.840 It was a bandmates girlfriend too, I think, yeah, yeah, man, 2:23:34.120 --> 2:23:38.400 no one of the you know what, And that's exactly 2:23:38.480 --> 2:23:41.640 what you would expect in an elite rock band. They 2:23:41.800 --> 2:23:45.800 had great music that we always wish should have been more, 2:23:46.200 --> 2:23:48.680 and a lot of issues. That's what a rock band's 2:23:48.680 --> 2:23:50.959 supposed to be, like, yeah. 2:23:50.879 --> 2:23:52.960 They definitely walked it like they poked it. And a 2:23:53.000 --> 2:23:55.000 funny story. We were there, so we got I got, 2:23:55.200 --> 2:23:57.480 I got former friends. We went up there. 2:23:57.600 --> 2:23:58.959 Most of these guys like Corse guys. 2:23:59.040 --> 2:24:01.480 So I was like, listen if they're trying to get 2:24:01.560 --> 2:24:04.080 me the Saratoga because I've never been, and I was like, listen, 2:24:04.200 --> 2:24:04.879 this is your shot. 2:24:05.080 --> 2:24:05.400 Okay. 2:24:05.760 --> 2:24:08.080 So anyway, we relate to the we were at the 2:24:08.120 --> 2:24:10.959 track all day Saturday. We relate right to the concert 2:24:11.520 --> 2:24:14.040 and we went after you went to this restaurant everything. 2:24:14.240 --> 2:24:16.160 And then when I was looking up like the concert thing, 2:24:16.240 --> 2:24:20.199 they said that Axel was actually in like a gelado place, 2:24:20.879 --> 2:24:23.280 that we were right there, and I was like, none 2:24:23.320 --> 2:24:24.600 of you guys could have gotten a July. 2:24:24.720 --> 2:24:25.440 We're all from the K. 2:24:25.520 --> 2:24:28.320 Nobody got a gelato craving that night that I could 2:24:28.440 --> 2:24:31.520 run into Axel and say, yo, what's up? Because these 2:24:31.560 --> 2:24:35.680 getting and these guys are like, yeah, I can't count 2:24:35.680 --> 2:24:36.480 on you guys or anything. 2:24:36.680 --> 2:24:36.960 Haha. 2:24:37.520 --> 2:24:41.480 I tell you, man, well listen, if they do that, 2:24:42.560 --> 2:24:45.040 then something special has to occur. There's no question. 2:24:46.600 --> 2:24:49.320 Yeah, man, you got to use the cold super Bowl victory. 2:24:49.360 --> 2:24:52.080 You's got to everybody in Indiana's got to clem Indiana. 2:24:52.320 --> 2:24:55.960 Put the leverage on On Axel, the greatest frontman that 2:24:56.080 --> 2:24:59.080 ever lived, in my opinion, for his Indiana roots. He's 2:24:59.120 --> 2:25:01.680 going to have to be at the parade and all 2:25:01.760 --> 2:25:02.199 that stuff. 2:25:02.920 --> 2:25:05.720 My brother, I appreciate it. Have a fantastic weekend. We'll 2:25:05.760 --> 2:25:08.920 see how things are going coming up next week. Okay, 2:25:09.000 --> 2:25:12.280 real you too, Mike and Brooklyn. Fulton's going to join 2:25:12.400 --> 2:25:15.320 us as a part of Anything Goes that's coming up 2:25:15.400 --> 2:25:17.120 on the other side, you guys want to join. At 2:25:17.120 --> 2:25:20.240 two three nine ten seventy, we've got about ten minutes 2:25:20.280 --> 2:25:22.760 on the clock for anything goes that is coming up next. 2:25:22.879 --> 2:25:24.800 Ninety three to five, one oh seven five the Fan, 2:25:34.120 --> 2:25:38.680 the ride with JMV. My vehicle's too big. Stop giggling, everybody, 2:25:38.879 --> 2:25:41.520 I'm talking about a vehicle. My vehicle is too big. 2:25:41.840 --> 2:25:46.760 Ninety three five and one oh seven five the fan. Alright, 2:25:46.920 --> 2:25:54.080 so manything goes. Caleb's over there, I'm John Anything goes 2:25:54.120 --> 2:25:57.119 at two three nine ten seventy for the better part 2:25:57.360 --> 2:26:01.320 of the next seven and a half minutes. Chime in here, 2:26:01.440 --> 2:26:04.080 jamb takeover tomorrow night be one oh five point seven 2:26:04.200 --> 2:26:07.200 six until midnight. It is another one of those extravagant 2:26:07.320 --> 2:26:13.160 whatever situations, and last weekend it was incredible. So we're 2:26:13.200 --> 2:26:16.000 gonna floor that son of a gun coming up tomorrow night. 2:26:16.040 --> 2:26:19.199 I'll promise you that with a JMV takeover All Requests 2:26:19.200 --> 2:26:24.360 Saturday night, the only show nationwide that does that. And 2:26:24.440 --> 2:26:28.039 then one of these days they're gonna realize that other stations, 2:26:28.280 --> 2:26:32.720 not just in the state of Indiana, but nationally need 2:26:32.840 --> 2:26:36.640 to do it too, one of these days because it 2:26:37.000 --> 2:26:41.480 is kick ass powered by Big Red Liquors. Tomorrow night, 2:26:41.600 --> 2:26:44.520 B one oh five point seven JMV. What'd you say 2:26:44.560 --> 2:26:47.440 you were playing with? These dudes from Florida? Tonight? Nine 2:26:47.640 --> 2:26:49.879 thirty is the tip time? It is that the arc 2:26:51.760 --> 2:26:55.800 down off of one thirty five and stones crossing the 2:26:55.959 --> 2:26:58.920 Center Grove area. Just a state of the art basketball 2:26:59.000 --> 2:27:01.880 facility that is just opened. So how do you open 2:27:01.959 --> 2:27:05.200 a state of the art basketball facility, Caleb? You let 2:27:05.240 --> 2:27:07.920 a bunch of old decrepit dudes have a tournament in it, 2:27:08.720 --> 2:27:10.760 and I was not going to play. They've got different 2:27:11.080 --> 2:27:15.040 age brackets. I'm fifty six and a half. I'm playing 2:27:15.080 --> 2:27:17.000 with a younger one, so I'll probably get my ass 2:27:17.080 --> 2:27:21.360 work tonight, and I'm playing with some dudes from Florida 2:27:22.760 --> 2:27:27.480 that need somebody. I don't know if they need somebody 2:27:27.640 --> 2:27:32.920 like me nine thirty tonight, and they use their nine 2:27:32.959 --> 2:27:42.480 minute quarters and officials, just like a real game. I 2:27:42.640 --> 2:27:44.960 promise myself I'd never do this, and here I am. 2:27:48.160 --> 2:27:49.480 But you saw what I did. I got to the 2:27:49.640 --> 2:27:52.440 tech stream and I talked a bunch of junk because 2:27:52.440 --> 2:27:54.560 I thought I'd be playing with Landis, but instead he's 2:27:54.600 --> 2:27:56.720 playing with somebody else, and I'm playing with a group 2:27:56.760 --> 2:27:57.560 of dudes I don't know. 2:27:57.879 --> 2:28:02.400 You see, Landis is out for Sunday, so that dang man. 2:28:02.360 --> 2:28:04.040 We're playing what does that say? Saint Jude? 2:28:05.000 --> 2:28:05.200 Yeah? 2:28:05.240 --> 2:28:08.400 Where there's not multiple Saint Jude's, Because you know I 2:28:08.480 --> 2:28:10.199 went to multiple Greenwood. 2:28:09.840 --> 2:28:12.400 Christians on Wednesday night. You did on Wednesday night. I 2:28:12.520 --> 2:28:14.880 believe is that the one over there, right next to 2:28:15.000 --> 2:28:16.120 Ron Colly? I believe right. 2:28:16.240 --> 2:28:17.200 You can probably tell me. 2:28:17.440 --> 2:28:19.800 I don't know only who's the dude. I don't even 2:28:19.800 --> 2:28:20.720 know who's opening it up. 2:28:21.440 --> 2:28:22.640 I don't have any numbers. 2:28:22.640 --> 2:28:24.680 I bet you we're not going to have enough on 2:28:24.840 --> 2:28:28.160 Sunday morning, mark my words. I'm betting I'll be there though, 2:28:28.959 --> 2:28:31.000 it's like I will later on tonight for this nine 2:28:31.200 --> 2:28:36.520 thirty tip time. Good Lord, you're playing Pacific Time Letter 2:28:36.600 --> 2:28:40.080 on tonight, my man, Fulton? Is it two three, nine, 2:28:40.200 --> 2:28:45.640 ten seventy? This is anything goes? Hello, Fulton, Fulton? Are 2:28:45.680 --> 2:28:49.400 you there? But I am Heyboddy, go ahead, you better 2:28:49.480 --> 2:28:51.680 take me off a mute Palomino. 2:28:51.520 --> 2:28:54.240 You're fine, You're fine, John. You're about to go to 2:28:54.320 --> 2:28:56.080 my Annie and the Cast party tonight. 2:28:56.600 --> 2:28:57.080 You're doing? 2:28:57.160 --> 2:28:57.200 What? 2:28:57.360 --> 2:28:57.680 And where? 2:28:57.879 --> 2:28:59.880 What's my Danny the music? 2:29:00.800 --> 2:29:02.519 Oh yeah, where's your party. 2:29:04.600 --> 2:29:05.400 Elward tonight? 2:29:06.040 --> 2:29:09.160 Okay, good for you, buddy, good for you. You got 2:29:09.200 --> 2:29:09.760 people with you? 2:29:10.959 --> 2:29:15.400 Ah yeah, I got my mom driving me up to Elwood, 2:29:15.600 --> 2:29:18.720 So we're gonna go to Elwood and watch the show 2:29:18.879 --> 2:29:19.720 for two hours. 2:29:19.800 --> 2:29:21.000 So it's gonna be a good one. 2:29:21.200 --> 2:29:23.959 Oh, Ellwood. I once got lost and ended up in Elwood. 2:29:24.120 --> 2:29:26.800 Is there a McClure gas station up there? That's where 2:29:26.840 --> 2:29:29.880 I got lost once upon a time. I am not 2:29:30.200 --> 2:29:33.400 sure it was either Elwood, No, its Elwood or Alexandria, 2:29:33.520 --> 2:29:34.640 one of the two. I can't remember. 2:29:34.760 --> 2:29:38.080 I have been to Airward so but I haven't seen 2:29:38.120 --> 2:29:38.480 the guests. 2:29:40.160 --> 2:29:42.360 What do you got for me? Pal Well? 2:29:42.600 --> 2:29:47.920 I'm going after the cast party, I'm going to Chicago 2:29:48.240 --> 2:29:49.039 and the stakes. 2:29:49.840 --> 2:29:52.240 Oh you are, you're going there coming up on Sunday. 2:29:52.280 --> 2:29:57.080 Good for you. Yeah, that's good. No, no, no, no, no, no, 2:29:57.160 --> 2:30:01.760 no right yeah, five to six to four. 2:30:02.080 --> 2:30:05.480 Yeah, yeah, I send you the video of the ball. 2:30:06.240 --> 2:30:09.440 Well, I saw it. How'd you foul that off your face? 2:30:09.600 --> 2:30:12.480 How'd that happen? Oh goodness, I don't think I've ever 2:30:12.560 --> 2:30:15.320 seen anybody swing a bat and then foul the pitch 2:30:15.440 --> 2:30:21.280 off their face. Well, the reason why, I think your 2:30:21.320 --> 2:30:23.240 timing was a little bit off there, faulting. To be 2:30:23.320 --> 2:30:24.960 honest with you, I think you were a little out 2:30:25.000 --> 2:30:25.760 in front of the pitch. 2:30:27.080 --> 2:30:31.440 Yeah, what happened was I was trying to hit the 2:30:31.560 --> 2:30:36.680 ball my sofa coach, yes, was trying to was trying to. 2:30:38.800 --> 2:30:40.840 Get the ball to me, and then I tried to 2:30:40.920 --> 2:30:46.320 sing it and it bounced on my helmet onto my head. 2:30:46.760 --> 2:30:51.360 Yeah. I saw that work right off your face. You know, 2:30:51.600 --> 2:30:53.920 I did not send it about it back out. You 2:30:54.040 --> 2:30:56.440 sent that to me on X but I didn't send 2:30:56.480 --> 2:30:59.400 it back out because I'm not standing for anybody making 2:30:59.440 --> 2:30:59.960 fun of my brother. 2:31:00.120 --> 2:31:00.240 Though. 2:31:00.560 --> 2:31:04.640 All right, so no, I don't want I didn't like that. 2:31:04.800 --> 2:31:08.279 Not normally in those situations people wear like a faceguard. 2:31:08.320 --> 2:31:09.720 You didn't have a face guard on, did you. 2:31:11.680 --> 2:31:11.920 Yeah? 2:31:12.240 --> 2:31:12.840 I will know. 2:31:12.959 --> 2:31:13.480 I do know this. 2:31:13.800 --> 2:31:15.880 I know you're tough enough to handle it. You feel okay? 2:31:17.200 --> 2:31:17.400 Yeah? 2:31:17.480 --> 2:31:18.960 I feel I feel better today. 2:31:19.200 --> 2:31:19.400 Good. 2:31:19.840 --> 2:31:22.000 I've been I've been resting my head and everything. 2:31:22.120 --> 2:31:24.760 And uh, did you get a bruise out of it 2:31:24.879 --> 2:31:25.240 or anything? 2:31:27.280 --> 2:31:27.840 I don't think. 2:31:27.920 --> 2:31:31.000 I don't think I got a bruze, but it was 2:31:31.520 --> 2:31:35.760 it was like on the forehead or something. 2:31:35.879 --> 2:31:39.440 So yeah, well I'm glad. I am glad you're okay, because, 2:31:39.800 --> 2:31:42.040 like I said, I've never seen anybody foul a pitch 2:31:42.120 --> 2:31:43.240 off their face quite like that. 2:31:44.520 --> 2:31:44.720 Yeah. 2:31:45.360 --> 2:31:48.480 Uh, can you give a special shout out for Bill 2:31:48.560 --> 2:31:51.080 Smith in the entire cast for us. 2:31:52.280 --> 2:31:54.200 You're doing it right now, Pal, you're on the air 2:31:54.320 --> 2:31:55.520 right now. You're doing it yourself. 2:31:55.959 --> 2:31:58.480 Okay. I just wanted to say thank you to Bill 2:31:58.560 --> 2:32:01.840 Smith and on the cast of doing Ending the musical 2:32:02.440 --> 2:32:04.720 for me to be in part of the cast and everything, 2:32:05.640 --> 2:32:08.000 and I can't wait to do more. 2:32:07.959 --> 2:32:12.199 Shows with Bill Smith and the antic tatle You got that, Pal, 2:32:12.879 --> 2:32:15.960 enjoy your night, Thank you, buddy, I will thanks. That 2:32:16.240 --> 2:32:20.240 is the awesome Fulton right there. Jamb takeover coming up 2:32:20.320 --> 2:32:22.440 tomorrow night at six o'clock. We're gonna have a party 2:32:22.480 --> 2:32:24.440 on B one oh five point seven the Arc. Later 2:32:24.520 --> 2:32:26.880 on tonight, Caleb, great job out of you if you 2:32:26.959 --> 2:32:30.400 missed it. Earlier today Debbie Antonelli about the fever and 2:32:30.480 --> 2:32:32.160 the far Later on Tonight is Now