WEBVTT - Mac & Bone Hour 3: NFL Week 5 Recap 

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, oh, oh, it's Mac and Bo on your radio, baby.

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<v Speaker 2>This is my friend Matt.

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<v Speaker 3>Posh, come on, Posh.

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<v Speaker 2>This is my friend T-Bone.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's have some fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't go to work without listening to Mac and Bone.

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<v Speaker 3>Do it live.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, let's do it, baby. Let's talk a little NFL, man.

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<v Speaker 4>The Panthers were off this week. Bryce continued his magical

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<v Speaker 4>media tour with the game day crew in Tuscaloosa. Saw

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<v Speaker 4>Bama lose a heartbreaker late. Then I'm sure we'll talk

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<v Speaker 4>about more in the 9 o'clock hour. But damn, Georgia

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<v Speaker 4>is good. That defense, that running game without their top

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<v Speaker 4>two backs bone. Gunner Stockton, I think he's the most

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<v Speaker 4>underrated quarterback in America, that dude.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the best team in America. To go to Bama...

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<v Speaker 5>and do what they did. But I'll also say this.

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<v Speaker 5>Alabama also is not far off from maybe being the

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<v Speaker 5>best team in the world. Alabama is a chicken tender

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<v Speaker 5>as well. We can take Texas back, I think. out

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<v Speaker 5>of that equation right now and put Bama up there

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<v Speaker 5>into that. Texas is not impressing me. I know they

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<v Speaker 5>lost the other day in a rivalry game, but I

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<v Speaker 5>don't believe in them one iota.

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<v Speaker 4>Dude, Arch Manning seems like a good kid. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to be mean-spirited about it, but Arch Manning, again,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll say it again, it's just he's all right. But

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<v Speaker 4>those two interceptions, Bone, were completely ill-advised. And I know

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<v Speaker 4>it's unfair to him in a way to compare him

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<v Speaker 4>to his uncles, but I said it a couple weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 4>He makes dim-witted plays where you're like, I thought you

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<v Speaker 4>were supposed to be cerebral because you're a Manning.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 5>And his ceiling is good, not great, but he's also

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<v Speaker 5>got a floor that's really low. Yeah, I don't buy him.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't believe in him leading Texas on some deep

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<v Speaker 5>playoff run.

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<v Speaker 3>And Sark also could be a problem.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you're an NFL fan that needs a quarterback,

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<v Speaker 4>obviously we don't know what that's like at all, baby,

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<v Speaker 4>not at all. But if you're an NFL fan that

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<v Speaker 4>needs a quarterback, I would want no part of Arch

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<v Speaker 4>Manning on my NFL team.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I wouldn't either.

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<v Speaker 4>None whatsoever. As I promised to talk NFL bone, and

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<v Speaker 4>we start by talking more college football. What's up, Fetty?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the best rivalry in the sport?

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<v Speaker 6>I know we look at Ohio State, Michigan, Auburn, Alabama,

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<v Speaker 6>but that game, I sent this tweet out, it gives

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<v Speaker 6>me J. Billis, Duke Carolina vibes. It feels like that

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<v Speaker 6>game always delivers. And I was, for all the crap

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<v Speaker 6>John Mateer has endured the last year and a half

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<v Speaker 6>in Norman, I was happy he had that moment.

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<v Speaker 3>Two big throws. Two big throws.

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<v Speaker 6>And whenever one of those schools have their backs against

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<v Speaker 6>the wall, they show up.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a big win for Venables, too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he needed that.

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<v Speaker 4>Bones said it last week. Bones said, crazy things happen

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<v Speaker 4>in this game. And I said, crazy like Oklahoma throwing

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<v Speaker 4>for more than 140. But they didn't need much of it.

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<v Speaker 4>They got a special teams and a defensive touchdown.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like it never matters in that game what

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<v Speaker 5>those teams are doing.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Throw out the record books.

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<v Speaker 4>Bone, it's your 700th good call that I poo-pooed. You

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<v Speaker 4>know what I mean? I had a hot weekend. And

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<v Speaker 4>I probably poo-pooed every one of your picks that you

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<v Speaker 4>ended up making.

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<v Speaker 3>Bone just says, poo-poo away, you dummy. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>go make cash. I'm going to go make cash. All right.

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<v Speaker 4>You can make cash, Bone, by betting against NFC South teams,

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<v Speaker 4>not named the Carolina Panthers, of course. So let's do

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<v Speaker 4>the NFL recap segment. And I think, Bone, the key

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<v Speaker 4>parts are NFC South rivals lose. My God, that was enjoyable.

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<v Speaker 4>And then we've got to get to the way Philly.

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<v Speaker 4>lost and Washington did not win. It ended with Sirianni

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<v Speaker 4>and Dan Quinn apologizing after the games. It is just

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<v Speaker 4>epic knuckleheadedness. What did you, what, like... When you watch

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<v Speaker 4>New Orleans get shut down by Minnesota, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 4>to act like Minnesota's not doing that to everybody right

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<v Speaker 4>now on defense.

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<v Speaker 3>That Flores defense is nasty.

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<v Speaker 4>And when you watch the Falcons not take advantage of

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<v Speaker 4>Lamar being out, Bone, what were your takeaways? Do you

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<v Speaker 4>fear either one of those teams as a Panther fan?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't.

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<v Speaker 5>The Panthers already proved this year that they're better than

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<v Speaker 5>Atlanta with or without Penix. I don't— I don't think

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<v Speaker 5>Penix back is something... Yes, he does elevate them more, obviously,

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<v Speaker 5>than the quarterbacks they had, but Panthers shut out Penix

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<v Speaker 5>last year 30-0, and New Orleans, you know, I was

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<v Speaker 5>off on them. I thought they would be equal to

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<v Speaker 5>the Panthers this year.

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<v Speaker 3>But they just.

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<v Speaker 5>they're not right either. So I don't fear anybody in

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<v Speaker 5>the NFC South. I'm not saying that these teams... Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>fear is probably not the right word for this. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not saying that something can't happen to the Panthers along

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<v Speaker 5>the way where they get clipped. They're not ready to

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<v Speaker 5>overlook anybody, but I don't lose sleep back over those

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<v Speaker 5>three teams by any means.

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<v Speaker 4>I just find myself feeling so good about our place

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<v Speaker 4>in the division, and I know what you're thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>Mac, when you start feeling good, I start feeling bad.

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<v Speaker 3>I know what you're thinking.

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<v Speaker 4>But just the injuries that we've had to deal with,

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<v Speaker 4>like I said, Bone, whatever that publication was to put

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<v Speaker 4>the chart out, most games missed with injury this year.

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<v Speaker 4>And to look at us now alone in first, albeit

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<v Speaker 4>at just 2-2, after what happened with the Falcons last night,

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<v Speaker 4>and of course the Saints dropped now to 1-4, Falcons

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<v Speaker 4>to 2-3, I just feel like we get healthy. And

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<v Speaker 4>I just feel like you might actually see some consistency

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<v Speaker 4>out of this team. If they can do what they're

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<v Speaker 4>doing now, Bone, with all these injuries. And I look

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<v Speaker 4>at the Saints and say, I just don't think you're

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<v Speaker 4>ready yet. Like, I'm not going to completely say Tyler

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<v Speaker 4>shucks a bomb just because he had 96 stinking passing

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<v Speaker 4>yards because that Minnesota defense will overwhelm you. I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>going to badmouth Kellen Moore. But I don't think they're

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<v Speaker 4>at one in four. I don't think they're ready, Bone,

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<v Speaker 4>for where people tried to place them as the trendy

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<v Speaker 4>offseason pick.

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<v Speaker 5>Atlanta needed that win over Baltimore without Lamar because we

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<v Speaker 5>went through it last week, but we'll do it again.

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<v Speaker 3>And a lot of these are at home or.

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<v Speaker 5>Cincinnati is an international game, but it's Chicago. We'll see

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<v Speaker 5>about Caleb Williams. I don't know yet, but it's Chicago

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<v Speaker 5>for the Falcons, San Francisco, Cincinnati, Kansas City, Minnesota, five

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<v Speaker 5>of their next six games. Chicago, San Fran, Cincinnati, Kansas City, Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 5>So they needed that last night because they got a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of losses.

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<v Speaker 3>Coming their way. They did.

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<v Speaker 5>San Francisco, I think, has been the most impressive team

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<v Speaker 5>in the sport so far this year.

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<v Speaker 4>You ain't kidding. And they've been like the second most

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<v Speaker 4>injured team, once again. And they're sitting there 5-0, go

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<v Speaker 4>to Seattle, get a damn dub.

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<v Speaker 5>And actually, Matt, they have to go Minnesota. They go

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<v Speaker 5>Kansas City, Minnesota, Detroit, back to back to back at

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<v Speaker 5>the end of this thing. That's not easy for them.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the thing. It's like, Art, even if we were to...

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<v Speaker 4>And I think we've got some winnable games coming up

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<v Speaker 4>despite our injuries. I think we're about ready to start

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<v Speaker 4>getting some guys back to bone. But Atlanta's not a

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<v Speaker 4>team that's going to run away from us with that schedule.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know about y'all, but man, that bye week

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<v Speaker 4>made me feel even better about what's going on in Carolina.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't know now if Pennix will be out for

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<v Speaker 4>a while with that rib injury from last night. We

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<v Speaker 4>saw Tua's horrendous interception. So it's like, if he has

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<v Speaker 4>to start, give me more of that. Man, I'm just

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<v Speaker 4>feeling good. You mentioned, let's see here. What did we, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>you mentioned the Bears. It looks like there's a chance

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<v Speaker 4>they could get Caleb Williams back this week, and I

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<v Speaker 4>think they might need it, Bone. I feel like Ben

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<v Speaker 4>Johnson used all his magic offensive dust and might not

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<v Speaker 4>have any left. And how about, here's another one where

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<v Speaker 4>I poo-pooed something you said, and then I watched.

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<v Speaker 3>You are poo-pooing all over the place.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>See, I got a problem, seriously. Captain Poo-Poo.

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<v Speaker 5>I need to take some, like, Sports Take X-Lax or something.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the most station poo-poo since Slaney was roaming around.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, that only happened twice on the air, right? That's it,

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<v Speaker 3>just twice. Yeah, only twice. It can happen to anybody.

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<v Speaker 4>The Green Bay passing attack, you have been saying you're

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<v Speaker 4>worried about it, and I've been like, you know, have

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<v Speaker 4>you seen Jordan Love play this year? Well, they got

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<v Speaker 4>that thing cranked up yesterday. Jordan Love, Golden, and Watson.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's like, oh, against our backup corners in a

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<v Speaker 4>couple weeks on Thursday night. On a short week to

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<v Speaker 4>prepare for that also. Yeah, when we looked at the

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<v Speaker 4>matchups that worried me the most, that was up there

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<v Speaker 4>because their style, Mac, is they are a risk-taking, down

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<v Speaker 4>the field, we will target the DBs over and over

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<v Speaker 4>and over and over. And that's what I've been worried about.

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<v Speaker 4>I did it yesterday at Chicago. Yeah, they did. I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, okay, if Jordan Love is going to play

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<v Speaker 4>like that, we might have something to worry about. But again,

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<v Speaker 4>the league is so week-to-week. We all try to act

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<v Speaker 4>like things carry over what we saw. I see a

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<v Speaker 4>trend here, but that trend could be completely changed. It's

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<v Speaker 4>just crazy. College football, too, man.

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<v Speaker 3>Some teams are play-to-play, like the NFC East teams were yesterday. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>my God.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, so let's just laugh at the NFC East.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm not going to lie. Some NFC East fan,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even know who he roots for.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah!

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<v Speaker 3>Some dude said, quit bashing the NFC East. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>down year.

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<v Speaker 4>But if you think we're as bad as your crappy division,

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<v Speaker 4>you've got another thing coming. Your entire division played this

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<v Speaker 4>week and didn't win a game. And two teams played

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<v Speaker 4>each other.

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<v Speaker 3>That's himself.

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<v Speaker 2>That doesn't happen in the NFC South, buddy.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a great line. That is so true. All right.

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<v Speaker 4>So can we start? Should we start with the of

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<v Speaker 4>the first one first of the blown games? Let's start

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<v Speaker 4>in chronological order.

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<v Speaker 3>Dallas, Tampa.

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<v Speaker 4>So Philly is Philly is playing in London against the Jags.

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<v Speaker 4>Their defense playing well. Like you said, Jalen Carter had

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<v Speaker 4>two sacks. It was a man possessed. And they are

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<v Speaker 4>about ready to get like a, hey, we fought our

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<v Speaker 4>butts off despite all the injuries, all the offensive line issues,

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<v Speaker 4>Saquon out, Devontae Smith out. We kick a field goal

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<v Speaker 4>bone to take the lead with, was it eight seconds?

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<v Speaker 4>Eight seconds. Eight seconds left. And it's like, they're going

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<v Speaker 4>to do this, man. They're going to do this. And

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<v Speaker 4>I was thinking as a Panther fan, like, is that

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<v Speaker 4>good they're winning? They get one out of the way?

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<v Speaker 4>Or are they now going to be reinvigorated?

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<v Speaker 5>Or is it so week to week it doesn't, we

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<v Speaker 5>don't even have any idea what it means.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, this one, Bone, was literally second to second because

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<v Speaker 4>they kicked the kickoff and And they allow him to

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<v Speaker 4>return it. They don't boot it through the end zone.

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<v Speaker 4>Or just add a bounce. Anything but what they did

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<v Speaker 4>would have worked. They give him a chance to return it.

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<v Speaker 4>And Abdullah runs this thing back to the 39-yard line.

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<v Speaker 4>And magically, it was close. I don't know what the

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<v Speaker 4>Michigan clock operators thought, but they left one second on

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<v Speaker 4>the clock for them to kick. Cam Little kicks a

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<v Speaker 4>56-yard or 57-yard field goal, and he makes it. It

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<v Speaker 4>was devastating, and I'm laughing because it's Philly. Devastating way

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<v Speaker 4>to lose a football game.

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<v Speaker 5>And then they have to fly back all those hours

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<v Speaker 5>now from London to Philly. Everything had to happen exactly

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<v Speaker 5>how it happened. They had to kick the ball inbounds,

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<v Speaker 5>not out of bounds or out of the end zone.

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<v Speaker 5>They could have kicked it high. They could have squibbed it.

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<v Speaker 5>They could have done a lot of things. But they

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<v Speaker 5>kicked it to Abdul-Mak right in stride. But the other

0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:17.530
<v Speaker 5>thing here is, that's crazy, if Abdullah goes any further

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<v Speaker 5>and he's not tackled, it's over.

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<v Speaker 3>The clock runs out.

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<v Speaker 5>He had to run it to that exact spot, which

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<v Speaker 5>happens to be the kicker's range. If he goes one

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<v Speaker 5>more step, and you couldn't let him go one more step,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, obviously you're not trying that, but it had

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<v Speaker 5>to go exactly where it went for Jacksonville.

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<v Speaker 3>To win that football.

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<v Speaker 4>And what if he stops five yards sooner? You know

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<v Speaker 4>what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>It had to be right where it was.

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<v Speaker 4>Nick Sirianni afterwards, and you're going to notice a trend

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<v Speaker 4>here in the NFC East. of head coaches afterwards having

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<v Speaker 4>to say, my bad, this is Nick Sirianni, who I

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<v Speaker 4>have to be honest, should dress up in disguise all

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<v Speaker 4>week in Philly so that he doesn't get beat down

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<v Speaker 4>because they are furious.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen to this.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, our guys fought their butts off today. Defense

0:11:57.850 --> 0:12:01.250
<v Speaker 8>had an outstanding game keeping us in that game. Offense

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<v Speaker 8>did enough at the end to go win us that game.

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<v Speaker 8>Special teams did a nice job kicking it there. You know,

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<v Speaker 8>I didn't make the right decision, and I lost us

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<v Speaker 8>that game. And that's what I said to our guys.

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<v Speaker 8>And what hurts there is that, you know, the guys

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<v Speaker 8>fought so hard and then I don't make the decision that,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, that I should make it to the end

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<v Speaker 8>of the game. And I cost us that game and

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<v Speaker 8>I put that fully on me.

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<v Speaker 4>Good thing is they're very forgiving in the city of

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<v Speaker 4>brotherly love, Nicky. Oh, they won't even remember in 24 hours.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's right. It's Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 5>They remember it. You could go in a Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 5>this year and they'll still believe for this one.

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<v Speaker 4>So other than the kickoff, like I thought it should

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<v Speaker 4>have just gone deep out of bounds. You could have

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<v Speaker 4>tried to dirty kick it too, maybe, and see if

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<v Speaker 4>you could have bounced one. But even if you give

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<v Speaker 4>them the ball like 35. Like, they still, they don't

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<v Speaker 4>have any timeouts, so how are they going to, it's

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<v Speaker 4>going to be really hard for them to complete a pass.

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<v Speaker 4>You could have onside kicked it. You cover the sidelines

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<v Speaker 4>and make them throw over the middle. You could have

0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:00.860
<v Speaker 4>onside kicked it and let it bounce around. You could

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<v Speaker 4>do anything but what you did to just waste time. So,

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<v Speaker 4>but I also thought, Bone, they chose to throw a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of passes instead of run the clock down. and

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<v Speaker 4>make Jacksonville use all their timeouts. They also, Makai Lemon

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<v Speaker 4>made a mistake.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a rookie. He made a mistake.

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<v Speaker 4>If he goes down inbounds bone on that pass and

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't go out of bounds and stop the clock, then

0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:27.059
<v Speaker 4>Jacksonville has to stop the clock there. Philly can run

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<v Speaker 4>another play, run the clock down, and then stop it.

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<v Speaker 4>Because that's the thing. In that situation, you've got to

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<v Speaker 4>be able to make Jacksonville use all their timeouts, run

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<v Speaker 4>the clock down, and stop it. And if Makai Lemon

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<v Speaker 4>goes down, so he made a mistake, too. I have

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<v Speaker 4>to be honest with you, though, Bone. That was nothing

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<v Speaker 4>compared to what the Washington Commanders did. The Washington Commanders

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<v Speaker 4>did something that if a youth quarterback, football quarterback and

0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:54.740
<v Speaker 4>youth coach, Bone, did, you would say, man, they are

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<v Speaker 4>some knuckleheads.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is in the NFL. They allow the clock.

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<v Speaker 4>to run out before they get a chance to kick

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<v Speaker 4>the game-winning field goal. By the way, not to mention

0:14:05.590 --> 0:14:07.750
<v Speaker 4>the gifts they got from the Giants. The Giants had

0:14:07.770 --> 0:14:10.240
<v Speaker 4>their own problems. Another missed field goal by the Giants

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<v Speaker 4>kicker in overtime. Giants fumbled the ball to give it

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<v Speaker 4>back to them when they're in field goal range already.

0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:18.839
<v Speaker 4>Like they had been handed these gifts and then they say, no,

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<v Speaker 4>we don't really want to take these gifts from you.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll give it right back.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, Scadaboo was kind of off the hook now

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<v Speaker 4>on his own right here he fumbled there that would

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<v Speaker 4>have been the game but anyway they have 55 seconds

0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:30.620
<v Speaker 4>bone and they let this clock run all the way

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<v Speaker 4>down to the point where they run a play and

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<v Speaker 4>instead of just spiking it to set up their field

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<v Speaker 4>goal um they try to run a play and jayden

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<v Speaker 4>daniels is like running around i don't know if he's

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<v Speaker 4>trying to like Is he trying to get the.

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<v Speaker 3>Ball over to the other hash or something?

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<v Speaker 4>Like, I still don't fully understand what they were trying

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<v Speaker 4>to do. Why are you worried about running the clock down?

0:14:50.410 --> 0:14:53.130
<v Speaker 3>It's overtime. Kick the field goal and the game's over

0:14:53.170 --> 0:14:53.710
<v Speaker 3>at that point.

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<v Speaker 2>Very appropriate, a team in Washington not knowing what to do.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you mean?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you say?

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<v Speaker 5>I heard after the game back in Storm Reggae with C.J. Bailey,

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<v Speaker 5>he said, hey, what's up, man? Yeah, welcome to the club.

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<v Speaker 4>It was unbelievable. I could not believe they were allowing

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<v Speaker 4>that clock to run out. And Jaden Daniels afterwards said, hey, that's,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it starts at the top, but he says, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 3>I got to do better.

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<v Speaker 4>And then Dan Quinn took to the podium after smashing

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<v Speaker 4>his headset on the ground in anger and then standing

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<v Speaker 4>at the 25 yard line bone, apparently for multiple minutes,

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<v Speaker 4>just staring into space in shock at what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>He then said, Nick Sirianni, hold my beer. I got

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<v Speaker 3>to apologize, too.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, with the team, I thought this was a

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<v Speaker 9>hard-fought game to the wire. Leaving tonight with a tie

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<v Speaker 9>feels like a loss. And the last sequence. You know,

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<v Speaker 9>we throw it out of bounds, we clock it, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>and give yourself a chance to kick it. And we

0:15:51.990 --> 0:15:54.330
<v Speaker 9>pride ourselves on those moments at the end of the game.

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<v Speaker 9>And after the first down run, you know, still trying

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<v Speaker 9>to gain more for the kick. Right call is honestly

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<v Speaker 9>that we can go clock it early and don't put

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<v Speaker 9>ourselves in that spot.

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<v Speaker 3>And that is that's my responsibility. Nobody else's. They're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to gain more for the kick. But why don't you

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<v Speaker 3>go faster?

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<v Speaker 4>Like, why would you let it run all the way

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<v Speaker 4>down from 55 seconds to where you're not going to

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<v Speaker 4>have time when you're on a play?

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<v Speaker 5>Like, go with urgency if you're trying to run a

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<v Speaker 5>quick play. And I saw a ton of recap shows

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<v Speaker 5>and various things. They were all over Daniels. No one

0:16:24.810 --> 0:16:26.530
<v Speaker 5>was blaming the coach. He said that you're a quarterback

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<v Speaker 5>that's played football your whole life. You have to know

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<v Speaker 5>better than what you did. Whether you're told or not,

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<v Speaker 5>that's on the quarterback to know game situation there.

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<v Speaker 4>But it would have to coach. Should the coaches know

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<v Speaker 4>game situation? Like, I want to know what play did

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<v Speaker 4>you send in? That's what I want to know. I'm

0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:46.400
<v Speaker 4>glad it happened. Why are you sending anything into the

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<v Speaker 4>quarterback other than get up there and spike it?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't understand. What are you trying to do?

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<v Speaker 4>If he kicks it with 50 seconds left, 30, 20,

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<v Speaker 4>just go make the kick. It doesn't matter. You're not

0:16:57.470 --> 0:17:01.010
<v Speaker 4>leaving them time. At that point, the game's over if

0:17:01.050 --> 0:17:04.430
<v Speaker 4>you make it. So you say that people are saying

0:17:04.490 --> 0:17:08.110
<v Speaker 4>it's on Daniels. What was he told in the headset?

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<v Speaker 4>Did they call a play? And what was the play?

0:17:12.390 --> 0:17:14.250
<v Speaker 4>Jaden Daniels keeps it and runs it?

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<v Speaker 3>We'll never know, I guess.

0:17:17.410 --> 0:17:19.359
<v Speaker 4>I guess you've got to spread the blame around, but

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<v Speaker 4>I don't understand. Why is the play anything then get

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<v Speaker 4>up there and spike it? We're in field goal range.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I don't have the answer.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know. But it's the NFC East. There's a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of questions that we have about that division. Thank

0:17:32.090 --> 0:17:34.270
<v Speaker 5>God we're in the NFC South and not that woolly division.

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<v Speaker 4>That was a fun Sunday to be off and just

0:17:36.609 --> 0:17:41.030
<v Speaker 4>watch division rivals and, you know, screw the pooch. Watch

0:17:41.109 --> 0:17:44.030
<v Speaker 4>two NFC East teams gag and blow a game. Like,

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<v Speaker 4>that was fun, man. I enjoyed that.

0:17:47.270 --> 0:17:49.630
<v Speaker 3>It's kind of annoying how much the Falcons are in primetime,

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<v Speaker 3>but that one was fun last night. Oh, they were.

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<v Speaker 4>If they won yesterday, Bone, they would have swept the three.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, please don't do this because I was

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<v Speaker 4>running my fat trap about how they would go 0-3

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<v Speaker 4>on primetime and put the whole nation to sleep. And

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, please do not go 3-0. in prime

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<v Speaker 4>time and then they took care of us last night

0:18:07.250 --> 0:18:10.670
<v Speaker 4>um anything else oh there's nfl rules there's nfl controversy

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<v Speaker 4>with the refs on the uh seattle play at the

0:18:14.180 --> 0:18:16.640
<v Speaker 4>end bone as to whether or not cooper cup got

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<v Speaker 4>out of bounds with the first down or not oh

0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:20.899
<v Speaker 4>yeah there's that but i what i would say to

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<v Speaker 4>seattle is how about jsn just find a way to

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<v Speaker 4>catch that football you know what i mean yeah on

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<v Speaker 4>the on like a play or two before I missed

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<v Speaker 4>the very end of that game in transit.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, y'all were on.

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<v Speaker 5>I was doing the Hornets pregame show, and I was

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<v Speaker 5>in transit, so I missed the very end of that game.

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<v Speaker 5>JSN had a huge drop. I know vaguely what happened,

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<v Speaker 5>but I missed the very end of it. JJ, as always, Bone,

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<v Speaker 5>when it comes to rules. Also, I say I was

0:18:45.890 --> 0:18:51.460
<v Speaker 5>in transit. I ended up at a— Chinese food dealership. Dealership?

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<v Speaker 5>Is that what you call it? A Chinese food dealership?

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<v Speaker 3>I meant restaurant.

0:18:56.010 --> 0:18:58.409
<v Speaker 4>Why did I say dealership? Bone also went to a

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<v Speaker 4>car restaurant the other day.

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<v Speaker 5>So basically what I'm saying, Mac, is I left the

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<v Speaker 5>pregame show, I got Chinese food, and I missed the

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<v Speaker 5>very end of that game.

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<v Speaker 3>OK, OK. They got home for Ravens foul. I got you.

0:19:08.390 --> 0:19:09.830
<v Speaker 3>I got you, JJ.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, JJ, I believe the league office should hire JJ,

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<v Speaker 4>but that's just partially so he doesn't take our jobs

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<v Speaker 4>on WFNZ. But JJ was talking with somebody on Twitter

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<v Speaker 4>and said, basically, you need a pylon to be set

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<v Speaker 4>up at the first down marker, just like you do

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<v Speaker 4>in the end zone. And in those pylons, they now

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<v Speaker 4>have cameras because what happened is, Bone, they didn't have

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<v Speaker 4>a straight down the line shot.

0:19:31.210 --> 0:19:31.709
<v Speaker 3>But J.J.

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<v Speaker 4>Says you get a pylon with a camera, you will

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<v Speaker 4>always have that straight down the line shot. So score

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<v Speaker 4>another one for the brains. Check out the brains on J.J. Also,

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<v Speaker 4>we need J.J.

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<v Speaker 5>'s statement, as Texas are pointing out, on the backup

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<v Speaker 5>long snapper doing work for Jacksonville yesterday. Because their long

0:19:46.869 --> 0:19:49.350
<v Speaker 5>snapper got hurt and they put in a, was that

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<v Speaker 5>a defensive tackle? Mac, or an offensive tackle? What was that?

0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:54.120
<v Speaker 5>I didn't even really see this one. Oh yeah, the

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<v Speaker 5>long snapper was hurt for Jacksonville. They had a backup

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<v Speaker 5>long snapper.

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<v Speaker 4>I may have been watching my cheating football club beat

0:20:00.510 --> 0:20:03.409
<v Speaker 4>the brakes off of Liverpool and make everybody annoyed.

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<v Speaker 3>I may have been watching that. You were at a

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<v Speaker 3>Chinese video show.

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<v Speaker 5>When we come back, one of your former Penn State

0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:10.960
<v Speaker 5>ballers now doing great work as part of the team

0:20:10.980 --> 0:20:13.840
<v Speaker 5>with Tom Bredeman and Wes Bryant on the CW doing

0:20:13.859 --> 0:20:18.050
<v Speaker 5>ACC games. Jason Cabinda also does NFL stuff as well.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll talk ACC and his thoughts on Bryce Young. Sports Radio,

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<v Speaker 5>92.7 WFNZ.

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<v Speaker 4>Sports Radio 92.7. WFNZ, Mack and Bone with you here.

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<v Speaker 4>We're getting requests, Bone, for various montages of misery to

0:20:53.400 --> 0:20:57.230
<v Speaker 4>be put together. Somebody wants an NFC East We Blew

0:20:57.270 --> 0:21:01.669
<v Speaker 4>the Game montages of misery between Washington and Philly. And

0:21:01.750 --> 0:21:06.210
<v Speaker 4>multiple people would like a Saints and Falcons lost montage

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<v Speaker 4>of misery.

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<v Speaker 5>Isn't that kind of touching the money, though, a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit here? Isn't that a little bit? It's a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit dangerous, right? I don't think, are we good enough

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<v Speaker 5>to start... Just throwing out random... I don't know about that.

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<v Speaker 5>How about we just... It feels like we've got to

0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:22.359
<v Speaker 5>stick to our games that we win. How about beat Philadelphia? Actually,

0:21:22.400 --> 0:21:24.050
<v Speaker 5>they could lose to Philly. We could still do one

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<v Speaker 5>because that's how miserable they are.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true. Let's just beat Philly. And then do one.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's not mess around here. You don't want to tempt

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<v Speaker 3>the sports gods?

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<v Speaker 7>No, no.

0:21:32.020 --> 0:21:34.380
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to do the mess around here.

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<v Speaker 4>Plus, the montage is going to take me about three hours. So,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean? I feel like the Panthers

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<v Speaker 4>have to earn those montages. I also have to come

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<v Speaker 4>in earlier to do them, too.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true. An extra hour for Bone as well.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway. I only have so many hours left.

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<v Speaker 4>This dude said, this texter, 704 number, are you guys

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<v Speaker 4>that sad that you just recapped the NFL action and

0:21:55.859 --> 0:21:58.119
<v Speaker 4>all it was was mocking teams that lost?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you that sad? Yeah. Yeah, pretty much.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, we gave San Fran a little love. We gave

0:22:04.790 --> 0:22:07.730
<v Speaker 4>Green Bay a little love. Drake May's hot again. Shout

0:22:07.770 --> 0:22:09.820
<v Speaker 4>out to the hometown kid. All right, anyway, let's talk

0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:11.940
<v Speaker 4>some football. Let's talk to someone that played the game,

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<v Speaker 4>not us. Yeah, not us, not us. Our next guest

0:22:14.180 --> 0:22:15.879
<v Speaker 4>doesn't need to hear our plans of who we make

0:22:15.920 --> 0:22:17.180
<v Speaker 4>fun of on the air and who we do not.

0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:20.660
<v Speaker 4>He played it. He's a Penn State man. I love

0:22:20.680 --> 0:22:23.290
<v Speaker 4>this about him. A man that played it at a

0:22:23.350 --> 0:22:26.990
<v Speaker 4>high-level bone. And we could talk college and pro with.

0:22:27.030 --> 0:22:30.169
<v Speaker 4>He's that versatile. ACC fans, you hear him on the

0:22:30.210 --> 0:22:32.550
<v Speaker 4>CW on a game that we like to call the

0:22:32.590 --> 0:22:35.380
<v Speaker 4>Wes Bryant Game of the Week because Wes is our co-worker.

0:22:35.780 --> 0:22:37.800
<v Speaker 4>But our next guest is there as well with Tom

0:22:37.840 --> 0:22:41.100
<v Speaker 4>Brenneman and Wes. He is Jason Cabinda, fresh off a

0:22:41.160 --> 0:22:43.440
<v Speaker 4>trip to Raleigh for a big win for the Deacs.

0:22:43.859 --> 0:22:46.060
<v Speaker 4>And he joins us on the Mac and Bone Show. Hey, Jason,

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<v Speaker 4>how you doing, man? What's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>How are we doing, brother? Appreciate you guys having me

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, man.

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<v Speaker 3>What's up, man?

0:22:51.410 --> 0:22:55.109
<v Speaker 4>Appreciate you being here, man. We got to talk about

0:22:55.530 --> 0:23:00.340
<v Speaker 4>the Wake and State game. My Lord, Wake took over

0:23:00.380 --> 0:23:03.679
<v Speaker 4>that game in the second half, outscored them 28-0 in

0:23:03.700 --> 0:23:08.240
<v Speaker 4>the second half. What was the difference? Because when Bailey

0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:10.920
<v Speaker 4>was cooking 16-16 early, I thought it might be a

0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:12.300
<v Speaker 4>special day for State.

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<v Speaker 3>What was Wake able to do to turn the tide?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll tell you what, I thought the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Wake was down 14-7, and then Gio Lopez

0:23:22.710 --> 0:23:25.520
<v Speaker 1>just took over that football game. Not only Gio Lopez,

0:23:25.560 --> 0:23:29.419
<v Speaker 1>but that Wake Forest defensive line. I mean, Langston Hardy,

0:23:29.859 --> 0:23:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Zach Loewichen, I mean, those guys, the twist game, the

0:23:34.100 --> 0:23:37.300
<v Speaker 1>winning the one-on-ones in the pass rush, I mean, they

0:23:37.340 --> 0:23:40.260
<v Speaker 1>were just peppering Bailey the whole rest of the game.

0:23:40.720 --> 0:23:44.260
<v Speaker 1>Once it became six minutes in the second quarter, I mean,

0:23:44.280 --> 0:23:45.669
<v Speaker 1>they turned it on.

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<v Speaker 5>Jason, Wake Forest, we know, is not an easy place

0:23:50.020 --> 0:23:52.850
<v Speaker 5>to win, but Jake Dickert so far has made it

0:23:52.910 --> 0:23:56.090
<v Speaker 5>look like an easy place to win. From being around

0:23:56.130 --> 0:23:58.960
<v Speaker 5>the program and what you see from Jake Dickert so far,

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<v Speaker 5>what do you think makes him such a good match

0:24:02.119 --> 0:24:03.300
<v Speaker 5>for that Wake program right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just think, you know, the way he's able to,

0:24:07.260 --> 0:24:10.300
<v Speaker 1>you know, consistently fight complacency, you know, they don't get

0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:12.850
<v Speaker 1>satisfied over there. I think, you know, winning has become

0:24:12.890 --> 0:24:16.149
<v Speaker 1>an expectation over there for him. But, I mean, they work.

0:24:16.170 --> 0:24:19.169
<v Speaker 1>I mean, these guys work, and I think... just the

0:24:19.210 --> 0:24:21.910
<v Speaker 1>mindset that he brings to these guys and the way

0:24:21.950 --> 0:24:24.389
<v Speaker 1>he coaches, the way he cares about his players, I

0:24:24.410 --> 0:24:27.650
<v Speaker 1>think it is going to be very difficult for, you know,

0:24:27.690 --> 0:24:30.260
<v Speaker 1>a lot of organizations not to be, you know, knocking

0:24:30.300 --> 0:24:32.879
<v Speaker 1>on that front door looking for Jake Dickert because, I mean,

0:24:32.900 --> 0:24:34.060
<v Speaker 1>this guy's the real deal.

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<v Speaker 3>No doubt.

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<v Speaker 4>And on the other side, you have Dave Doran. State

0:24:40.040 --> 0:24:44.020
<v Speaker 4>fans are back after him again, and they've had this

0:24:44.080 --> 0:24:47.020
<v Speaker 4>horrible trend this season where of playing well in the

0:24:47.060 --> 0:24:50.320
<v Speaker 4>first half and then in the second half you know

0:24:50.500 --> 0:24:52.899
<v Speaker 4>just kind of falling apart giving up leads even in

0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:54.890
<v Speaker 4>the two in the games they won against app state

0:24:54.930 --> 0:24:58.929
<v Speaker 4>and louisville what's your feelings about dave doran and and

0:24:58.950 --> 0:25:02.510
<v Speaker 4>do you blame state fans for feeling like um after

0:25:02.650 --> 0:25:05.130
<v Speaker 4>all these years maybe it's time for a change.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, it's hard to say because, you know,

0:25:08.790 --> 0:25:11.929
<v Speaker 1>you look at games like, especially the Vanderbilt game, you know,

0:25:11.950 --> 0:25:13.850
<v Speaker 1>with the debacle at the end of the game and

0:25:13.890 --> 0:25:16.480
<v Speaker 1>they lose that one. And then, you know, coming into

0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:18.879
<v Speaker 1>the season, you have a ton of hype about C.J. Bailey,

0:25:18.900 --> 0:25:21.639
<v Speaker 1>and rightfully so. You know, it was a big... quarterback

0:25:21.660 --> 0:25:24.330
<v Speaker 1>with a big arm. He's mobile. You know, you have

0:25:24.369 --> 0:25:26.169
<v Speaker 1>a lot of things that, you know, you want to

0:25:26.210 --> 0:25:29.070
<v Speaker 1>like about this team, but it just seems like when

0:25:29.150 --> 0:25:31.449
<v Speaker 1>crunch time comes on or when the pressure is on

0:25:31.470 --> 0:25:34.040
<v Speaker 1>in these games, it seems as if they fold and

0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:36.300
<v Speaker 1>they don't keep their heads very well. And, you know,

0:25:36.340 --> 0:25:38.840
<v Speaker 1>when I see those kinds of trends on a football team,

0:25:39.100 --> 0:25:41.890
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's hard not to look at the coaching team. Now,

0:25:41.910 --> 0:25:44.110
<v Speaker 1>will I say people are going to be asking for

0:25:44.150 --> 0:25:45.670
<v Speaker 1>his head at the end of the season or anything

0:25:45.690 --> 0:25:48.790
<v Speaker 1>like that? I don't know. But I will say it

0:25:49.170 --> 0:25:53.500
<v Speaker 1>is a talented football team. They went and had that

0:25:53.540 --> 0:25:55.639
<v Speaker 1>heartbreak loss to Vandy. Then the very next week, they

0:25:55.680 --> 0:25:58.560
<v Speaker 1>go and beat Louisville. Then they're playing against Wake. They're

0:25:58.580 --> 0:26:01.630
<v Speaker 1>playing really well. They're up 14-7. And then, you know,

0:26:01.710 --> 0:26:03.840
<v Speaker 1>they just kind of break down and they can't get

0:26:03.880 --> 0:26:06.980
<v Speaker 1>it going offensively anymore. So I just think they're a

0:26:07.380 --> 0:26:09.859
<v Speaker 1>very hot and cold team and they need to find

0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:12.440
<v Speaker 1>a consistent level of play.

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<v Speaker 5>We're talking to Jason Cabinda of the CW here on

0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:19.440
<v Speaker 5>the Mac and Bone radio show. While you guys were

0:26:19.460 --> 0:26:23.090
<v Speaker 5>doing that Wake State game the other day, UNC was

0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:27.129
<v Speaker 5>getting a big road win at Pittsburgh. Jason, there are

0:26:27.190 --> 0:26:30.030
<v Speaker 5>certain wins we look at as, you know, big wins

0:26:30.090 --> 0:26:33.030
<v Speaker 5>for the season. And then there are big wins for

0:26:33.070 --> 0:26:36.250
<v Speaker 5>the program. How huge was that for UNC to get

0:26:36.290 --> 0:26:38.190
<v Speaker 5>that win at Pittsburgh for the long haul?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that is huge. I mean, I cannot, I

0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:46.790
<v Speaker 1>cannot overstate it enough. Not only is that win huge

0:26:46.850 --> 0:26:50.430
<v Speaker 1>against an undefeated, well, what was an undefeated Pittsburgh team,

0:26:50.869 --> 0:26:53.230
<v Speaker 1>but just all the drama surrounding the program and all

0:26:53.250 --> 0:26:55.369
<v Speaker 1>the things that they got going on, you know, for

0:26:55.390 --> 0:26:57.550
<v Speaker 1>them to be able to silence the noise, for Bill

0:26:57.590 --> 0:27:01.910
<v Speaker 1>Belichick to be able to keep these guys focused and not,

0:27:01.930 --> 0:27:05.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, lose any morale or be distracted and to

0:27:05.260 --> 0:27:07.820
<v Speaker 1>still go out there and execute at a high level.

0:27:07.859 --> 0:27:09.649
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that had to have been the most, I

0:27:09.690 --> 0:27:13.030
<v Speaker 1>had seen Bill Belichick kind of laughing and cracking a

0:27:13.070 --> 0:27:15.990
<v Speaker 1>smile when he did that pregame interview, and that's kind

0:27:16.010 --> 0:27:17.990
<v Speaker 1>of when I knew, okay, Bill must know something because

0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:20.960
<v Speaker 1>he's normally not this happy and giddy and talking right

0:27:21.020 --> 0:27:22.980
<v Speaker 1>before a game. So that's when I knew he must

0:27:23.020 --> 0:27:25.199
<v Speaker 1>have had something cooking up for that Pittsburgh game, and

0:27:25.260 --> 0:27:26.560
<v Speaker 1>they went out there and they showed out.

0:27:26.940 --> 0:27:29.060
<v Speaker 4>Oh, man, he was even chatty during the in-game interview

0:27:29.080 --> 0:27:31.900
<v Speaker 4>in the first half. I don't know how that happened either. So, yeah,

0:27:31.940 --> 0:27:34.100
<v Speaker 4>he must have felt good. And we'll see what they

0:27:34.140 --> 0:27:36.260
<v Speaker 4>do moving forward. They got Duke this week. Duke's coming

0:27:36.300 --> 0:27:39.639
<v Speaker 4>off a loss to Georgia Tech. Do you think, and

0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 4>I guess this question is another kind of Wake Forest question,

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:43.880
<v Speaker 4>but maybe your answer is someone else.

0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:46.600
<v Speaker 3>I guess I'll interject.

0:27:47.060 --> 0:27:49.580
<v Speaker 4>I'm now starting to think Wake is the second best

0:27:49.619 --> 0:27:51.480
<v Speaker 4>team in the ACC behind Miami.

0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:53.879
<v Speaker 3>Do you agree, or would you point to someone else?

0:27:56.140 --> 0:27:59.730
<v Speaker 1>You know, I got them right up there with SMU.

0:28:00.650 --> 0:28:03.350
<v Speaker 1>You know, I think SMU is still a good football team.

0:28:03.710 --> 0:28:06.850
<v Speaker 1>I really like their defense. I think they've regressed a

0:28:06.990 --> 0:28:10.350
<v Speaker 1>little bit offensively just from a standpoint of turnovers and penalties.

0:28:10.730 --> 0:28:12.330
<v Speaker 1>And if they can clean that stuff up, obviously it

0:28:12.350 --> 0:28:14.430
<v Speaker 1>starts with Kevin Jennings. You know, even a year ago,

0:28:14.810 --> 0:28:16.250
<v Speaker 1>you know, he was a quarterback who threw the most

0:28:16.290 --> 0:28:20.430
<v Speaker 1>interceptions in the league. They're a damn good passing offense.

0:28:20.690 --> 0:28:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Lashley does a great job over there calling the offense.

0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:28.659
<v Speaker 1>It would be right up there between Wake Forest and

0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:31.240
<v Speaker 1>SMU to me the way I see it. Obviously, Pitt

0:28:31.260 --> 0:28:34.200
<v Speaker 1>lost a quarterback, and that was a big loss for them.

0:28:35.180 --> 0:28:37.510
<v Speaker 1>But I think they're kind of neck and neck right

0:28:37.550 --> 0:28:39.990
<v Speaker 1>now fighting for that number two spot. And then obviously,

0:28:40.310 --> 0:28:42.130
<v Speaker 1>you know, Duke, I know they lost to Georgia Tech

0:28:42.190 --> 0:28:44.550
<v Speaker 1>as well. But going into, you know, that game, I

0:28:44.590 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 1>thought they were up there as well. Obviously, I think

0:28:47.380 --> 0:28:51.020
<v Speaker 1>that only played one conference game going into that Georgia

0:28:51.060 --> 0:28:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Tech game. So we'll see how this thing continues to develop.

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:57.110
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, I think it's waking SMU right up there,

0:28:57.170 --> 0:28:57.670
<v Speaker 1>neck and neck.

0:28:58.400 --> 0:29:01.480
<v Speaker 5>I was exploring the world of Jason Cabinda on Twitter,

0:29:01.540 --> 0:29:04.680
<v Speaker 5>at Jason Cabinda. It's also got the link to your

0:29:05.060 --> 0:29:08.970
<v Speaker 5>YouTube page as well for film breakdowns. You also do

0:29:09.190 --> 0:29:12.550
<v Speaker 5>NFL work as well, NFL Network, Good Morning Football. When

0:29:12.570 --> 0:29:15.470
<v Speaker 5>I was scrolling down to one of your videos, Jason,

0:29:15.510 --> 0:29:18.970
<v Speaker 5>lo and behold, I see you're talking about Bryce Young

0:29:19.650 --> 0:29:23.430
<v Speaker 5>in comparisons to Patrick Mahomes. What have you seen from

0:29:23.490 --> 0:29:26.450
<v Speaker 5>Bryce Young so far this year, and what would that

0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:27.820
<v Speaker 5>comparison be in your mind?

0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:28.580
<v Speaker 3>Speaker 3 6, 2 moms.

0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:33.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh, you know, the, the, the, the original discussion was

0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:35.480
<v Speaker 1>really like, Hey, you know, do you throw a rookie

0:29:35.510 --> 0:29:38.210
<v Speaker 1>quarterback directly into the fire or do you let him

0:29:38.250 --> 0:29:41.120
<v Speaker 1>like a patch of my homes? behind a veteran and

0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:43.660
<v Speaker 1>allow him to develop until he's ready? You know, which

0:29:43.820 --> 0:29:46.660
<v Speaker 1>would you prefer? And we were talking about Fernando Mendoza

0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:49.540
<v Speaker 1>as well, who's in the same situation sitting behind Kirk Cousins.

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:52.690
<v Speaker 1>But obviously, Bryce was thrown into the fire. You know,

0:29:52.730 --> 0:29:56.090
<v Speaker 1>he gets benched. Andy Dalton comes in, doesn't perform as well. Bryce,

0:29:56.330 --> 0:29:58.230
<v Speaker 1>or no, he gets hurt. And then Bryce is able

0:29:58.250 --> 0:30:00.709
<v Speaker 1>to come back in. And I mean, to see the

0:30:00.750 --> 0:30:03.870
<v Speaker 1>resurgence of Bryce Young and to start to see what

0:30:03.950 --> 0:30:08.110
<v Speaker 1>we saw at Alabama, that Steph Curry release, the ability

0:30:08.150 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 1>to have such great pocket presence, get out of the pocket,

0:30:11.180 --> 0:30:13.200
<v Speaker 1>throw it on the run. I just think he's playing

0:30:13.240 --> 0:30:15.460
<v Speaker 1>with a high level of confidence right now. And I

0:30:15.540 --> 0:30:19.110
<v Speaker 1>think The entire Carolina fan base is really rallying behind

0:30:19.140 --> 0:30:21.070
<v Speaker 1>them right now, as they should. I mean, if you

0:30:21.090 --> 0:30:23.490
<v Speaker 1>look at that win against the Detroit Lions, I know

0:30:23.530 --> 0:30:25.470
<v Speaker 1>that's not a great defense, but if you look at

0:30:26.030 --> 0:30:28.830
<v Speaker 1>that win against Detroit Lions and the way he was

0:30:28.890 --> 0:30:32.610
<v Speaker 1>methodical in those drives to come back and win that game,

0:30:33.110 --> 0:30:35.410
<v Speaker 1>I think that speaks a lot to this kid's character,

0:30:35.490 --> 0:30:39.130
<v Speaker 1>to this kid's resilience, and really just his talent. And

0:30:39.190 --> 0:30:43.200
<v Speaker 1>I'll also say this. It's not easy in the NFL

0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:46.020
<v Speaker 1>when you've lost your confidence to bounce back from that.

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:50.360
<v Speaker 1>And I think that really, really... speaks to this kid's

0:30:50.460 --> 0:30:52.940
<v Speaker 1>character and his ability to just keep his head down

0:30:53.060 --> 0:30:55.460
<v Speaker 1>and to keep working and to keep going. And that's

0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:58.700
<v Speaker 1>a trait that you really need in the NFL, especially

0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:01.720
<v Speaker 1>at the quarterback position, the ability to be even keeled

0:31:01.780 --> 0:31:04.480
<v Speaker 1>at all times and to stay in the middle of

0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:07.020
<v Speaker 1>the ebb and flows of the emotional ups and downs

0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:09.870
<v Speaker 1>of the league. So I give this kid a lot

0:31:09.910 --> 0:31:12.490
<v Speaker 1>of credit, man. And I think the Carolina Panthers, Right now,

0:31:12.510 --> 0:31:14.050
<v Speaker 1>I have a lot to be excited about.

0:31:14.110 --> 0:31:14.650
<v Speaker 3>Definitely.

0:31:14.710 --> 0:31:16.910
<v Speaker 4>I got goosebumps right there. I love it, man. I

0:31:16.950 --> 0:31:19.969
<v Speaker 4>love it. Jason, I do have a question, though. We

0:31:19.990 --> 0:31:22.910
<v Speaker 4>were joking when we brought you on that we call

0:31:22.930 --> 0:31:24.850
<v Speaker 4>the game you do each week the Wes Bryant Game

0:31:24.870 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 4>of the Week because we work with Wes here at

0:31:27.380 --> 0:31:28.460
<v Speaker 4>WFNZ in Charlotte.

0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:29.920
<v Speaker 3>But I've noticed something.

0:31:30.740 --> 0:31:34.780
<v Speaker 4>Does Wes pay Tom Brenneman to be his hype man?

0:31:34.860 --> 0:31:36.100
<v Speaker 3>Because Bone and I noticed.

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:40.320
<v Speaker 4>He is always hyping up, that big man at left

0:31:40.380 --> 0:31:43.540
<v Speaker 4>tackle for the Demon Deacons. He really hypes up West.

0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:44.980
<v Speaker 3>Is there a deal there, Jason?

0:31:45.900 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 1>Hey, there's no deal, man. That's just the crew and

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:51.620
<v Speaker 1>the chemistry, brother. I mean, West does a great job.

0:31:52.060 --> 0:31:54.040
<v Speaker 1>He does a great job for us, man, of doing

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:57.220
<v Speaker 1>his research, having his storylines ready for the game. And

0:31:57.240 --> 0:31:59.640
<v Speaker 1>he does a great job getting to know the players

0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:03.170
<v Speaker 1>and coaches throughout the week to have some awesome tidbits

0:32:03.210 --> 0:32:06.250
<v Speaker 1>for the show, man. So West, Wes is freaking awesome, man.

0:32:06.370 --> 0:32:09.190
<v Speaker 1>I'm really enjoying, you know, working with him and working

0:32:09.230 --> 0:32:10.950
<v Speaker 1>with Tom. It's been a blast so far.

0:32:11.170 --> 0:32:13.230
<v Speaker 3>It's a good crew, man. Keep up the good work.

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:16.140
<v Speaker 4>Y'all got Virginia SMU coming up, which is a big

0:32:16.260 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 4>one coming up this week.

0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:20.450
<v Speaker 3>All right, man, be good. And thanks for coming on.

0:32:21.460 --> 0:32:22.740
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, guys. We appreciate you.

0:32:22.900 --> 0:32:26.620
<v Speaker 3>All right, there you go, Jason Cabinda. He's an emerging guy, man.

0:32:26.660 --> 0:32:28.940
<v Speaker 3>He's good. He's going to listen. It's a good crew, man.

0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 4>The thing I like about Wes, too, on the sidelines is,

0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 4>and I'm not saying that each sideline reporter can bring

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:39.130
<v Speaker 4>their own skill set. but he is kind of like

0:32:39.530 --> 0:32:41.870
<v Speaker 4>where he could be part analyst on the sideline too, right?

0:32:42.510 --> 0:32:43.570
<v Speaker 3>So I kind of liked it.

0:32:43.630 --> 0:32:46.300
<v Speaker 4>Tom Brenneman will throw down there, and he'll kind of

0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:48.300
<v Speaker 4>be able to do a little more than just your

0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:50.640
<v Speaker 4>regular sideline report. I think that's a cool thing that

0:32:50.660 --> 0:32:51.990
<v Speaker 4>Wes provides to the broadcast.

0:32:52.330 --> 0:32:54.830
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he's kind of like our Fitty. He's kind of

0:32:54.850 --> 0:32:59.310
<v Speaker 5>like Fitty, right? Fitty's not just a guy on the sidelines.

0:32:59.350 --> 0:33:01.370
<v Speaker 5>He's a guy that gives us great insight.

0:33:01.490 --> 0:33:03.890
<v Speaker 2>Some say I'm a host in a producer role.

0:33:04.030 --> 0:33:04.570
<v Speaker 3>Clearly.

0:33:04.830 --> 0:33:06.370
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll be hosting today from 10 to 12 on

0:33:06.390 --> 0:33:07.510
<v Speaker 2>Charlotte Sports Today.

0:33:07.710 --> 0:33:10.190
<v Speaker 3>There you go, baby. Get that airtime, Fit Dog.

0:33:10.210 --> 0:33:13.120
<v Speaker 4>A little double-dip Tar Heel victory celebration today.

0:33:13.340 --> 0:33:17.630
<v Speaker 3>Basketball and football, Fit. You want to dance? Just like

0:33:17.650 --> 0:33:20.350
<v Speaker 3>you and me, just like slow dance. Can we go

0:33:20.370 --> 0:33:20.890
<v Speaker 3>to break, guys?

0:33:21.410 --> 0:33:22.790
<v Speaker 2>We can slow dance.

0:33:23.010 --> 0:33:23.550
<v Speaker 4>Oh, shoot.

0:33:23.810 --> 0:33:24.450
<v Speaker 3>We got to go to break.

0:33:24.490 --> 0:33:27.880
<v Speaker 5>When we come back, it's weekend conclusions, not just football.

0:33:28.340 --> 0:33:32.380
<v Speaker 5>Everything that went on this weekend, including our salute to

0:33:32.400 --> 0:33:35.420
<v Speaker 5>one of the most legendary characters in all of sports history.

0:33:35.860 --> 0:33:38.020
<v Speaker 5>That and more next on Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.

0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:12.380
<v Speaker 4>The song goes out to Shane Beamer Bone, who is

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:15.900
<v Speaker 4>still alive, baby, still alive. I was reading Andy Staple's

0:34:16.060 --> 0:34:20.110
<v Speaker 4>article because he was in Florida. Him and Ari Wasserman,

0:34:20.710 --> 0:34:22.529
<v Speaker 4>they were doing like an event in Gainesville or whatever.

0:34:22.590 --> 0:34:27.790
<v Speaker 4>Andy played football for the Gators. And so I heard him,

0:34:27.810 --> 0:34:30.469
<v Speaker 4>or he got a shout-out in the press conference from

0:34:30.510 --> 0:34:34.370
<v Speaker 4>Shane Beamer, but he wrote about it afterwards, and he said, yeah,

0:34:34.410 --> 0:34:37.830
<v Speaker 4>the feeling is, his intel is, they don't really want

0:34:37.850 --> 0:34:42.230
<v Speaker 4>to fire Shane Beamer at all. Like, his bosses genuinely

0:34:42.290 --> 0:34:44.989
<v Speaker 4>like him, and they don't want to fire him.

0:34:45.110 --> 0:34:48.690
<v Speaker 3>So if Shane Beamer could get, like, another one of these,

0:34:48.810 --> 0:34:49.230
<v Speaker 3>I mean.

0:34:49.330 --> 0:34:51.390
<v Speaker 5>He's not. I don't think he is getting fired. He

0:34:51.430 --> 0:34:54.290
<v Speaker 5>needed a massive win. Now he needs to... get some

0:34:54.350 --> 0:34:57.050
<v Speaker 5>more to, I think, win some people back over in full.

0:34:57.489 --> 0:34:59.690
<v Speaker 5>But remember, Matt, the report was they were not thinking

0:34:59.710 --> 0:35:02.800
<v Speaker 5>about firing him the week before this game.

0:35:02.860 --> 0:35:05.260
<v Speaker 4>But that was saying money. That was saying the boosters

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:07.779
<v Speaker 4>aren't going to step up with the money. Andy was

0:35:07.820 --> 0:35:12.100
<v Speaker 4>basically saying that the brass there just kind of likes.

0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:14.140
<v Speaker 5>Him and doesn't want to do it. Now he's really

0:35:14.180 --> 0:35:17.650
<v Speaker 5>not going anywhere. Unless he loses his next four. We

0:35:17.670 --> 0:35:19.710
<v Speaker 5>will see. It's week to week. But that was a

0:35:19.770 --> 0:35:21.810
<v Speaker 5>huge freaking win for him. The one thing I'm going

0:35:21.830 --> 0:35:23.189
<v Speaker 5>to do is not turn on this man again.

0:35:23.290 --> 0:35:23.529
<v Speaker 7>No.

0:35:24.690 --> 0:35:26.899
<v Speaker 3>Are you back on? You back on the Beamer wagon now?

0:35:26.940 --> 0:35:29.940
<v Speaker 3>The Beamer bus? Beam me up, Scotty. Oh, my God.

0:35:30.820 --> 0:35:32.160
<v Speaker 3>I got that win in the next four in a

0:35:32.180 --> 0:35:32.580
<v Speaker 3>row now.

0:35:32.860 --> 0:35:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Beamer is to bone what Hubert Davis was to me.

0:35:36.510 --> 0:35:39.830
<v Speaker 2>Just when he thinks I'm out. Pulls me back.

0:35:40.030 --> 0:35:41.090
<v Speaker 3>I like it. I like it.

0:35:41.469 --> 0:35:43.509
<v Speaker 5>That was not just a win, though. That was a

0:35:43.610 --> 0:35:46.969
<v Speaker 5>thorough demolition of the Gators. And that also leads to

0:35:46.989 --> 0:35:47.960
<v Speaker 5>a lot of questions about the Gators, too.

0:35:47.969 --> 0:35:51.250
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this just in Florida may not be what we

0:35:51.290 --> 0:35:53.250
<v Speaker 4>thought they were. And I also got to say this.

0:35:53.730 --> 0:35:55.290
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if Willie's listening. I don't know if

0:35:55.330 --> 0:35:56.370
<v Speaker 4>I want him to hear it. I don't want him

0:35:56.410 --> 0:35:59.020
<v Speaker 4>to hear this. Mizzou, definitely better than I thought they were.

0:35:59.420 --> 0:36:01.600
<v Speaker 4>I definitely got to take an L on this Mizzou.

0:36:01.340 --> 0:36:01.779
<v Speaker 3>Thing, man.

0:36:02.219 --> 0:36:05.799
<v Speaker 4>All right, let's get to it, Bone. Weekend conclusions. This

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:09.899
<v Speaker 4>can be, you know, Murphy puking on your shoe. This

0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:12.689
<v Speaker 4>could be football. This could be any other sport. What's

0:36:12.710 --> 0:36:14.210
<v Speaker 4>your weekend conclusion to start?

0:36:14.250 --> 0:36:15.210
<v Speaker 3>We have to start off.

0:36:15.110 --> 0:36:18.370
<v Speaker 5>By sending our thoughts and prayers and share some memories

0:36:18.910 --> 0:36:22.610
<v Speaker 5>of the great Mike Ditka, one of sports' greatest characters,

0:36:22.650 --> 0:36:25.280
<v Speaker 5>one of the greatest coaches ever. in pro football history,

0:36:25.340 --> 0:36:28.120
<v Speaker 5>passed away late last week. We had not been on

0:36:28.140 --> 0:36:29.759
<v Speaker 5>the air yet to talk about him. I know, Mac,

0:36:30.340 --> 0:36:33.340
<v Speaker 5>that's a guy that meant the world to your dad.

0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:34.220
<v Speaker 3>Oh, yeah.

0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:37.260
<v Speaker 5>We saw him in the media when he was done coaching. Really,

0:36:37.300 --> 0:36:41.020
<v Speaker 5>the interesting part to me was the stories of the

0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:44.360
<v Speaker 5>human being that Mike Ditka was. Jim Nance told a

0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:49.010
<v Speaker 5>story with Kevin Clark recently about when he was doing

0:36:49.070 --> 0:36:52.969
<v Speaker 5>CBS NFL Today in the late 90s, early 2000s when

0:36:52.989 --> 0:36:56.880
<v Speaker 5>he was done coaching. He would allocate, Mac, $ 100, 000 to

0:36:57.760 --> 0:37:00.780
<v Speaker 5>spend on his trips to New York for the season,

0:37:01.420 --> 0:37:04.969
<v Speaker 5>and he would get it all in $ 100 bills. And literally,

0:37:05.510 --> 0:37:07.969
<v Speaker 5>whenever he had to tip somebody, all hundreds, never asked

0:37:07.989 --> 0:37:11.130
<v Speaker 5>for change. would see homeless people, give them hundreds. He

0:37:11.230 --> 0:37:13.950
<v Speaker 5>allocated that money just to give out to people because

0:37:13.969 --> 0:37:16.049
<v Speaker 5>this whole thought was, I'm not going to die with

0:37:16.090 --> 0:37:16.649
<v Speaker 5>all this money.

0:37:16.710 --> 0:37:17.589
<v Speaker 3>Other people could use it too.

0:37:17.820 --> 0:37:19.800
<v Speaker 5>There's a lot of human stuff there with Mike Dick

0:37:20.140 --> 0:37:21.640
<v Speaker 5>that I was really intrigued by over the weekend.

0:37:21.660 --> 0:37:24.640
<v Speaker 4>And that's such a contrast to his hard-ass public persona.

0:37:24.940 --> 0:37:27.819
<v Speaker 4>Jim Harbaugh told the story on Friday about how he

0:37:28.920 --> 0:37:31.370
<v Speaker 4>went into his office. I'm sure Dick is yelling at

0:37:31.410 --> 0:37:33.969
<v Speaker 4>him when he played for him. And there he is

0:37:34.050 --> 0:37:38.210
<v Speaker 4>writing $ 500 checks to people that, you know, are less fortunate. Yeah.

0:37:38.469 --> 0:37:40.550
<v Speaker 4>And didn't even know these people, but was sending them checks.

0:37:41.050 --> 0:37:46.760
<v Speaker 4>I prefer to remember Iron Mike Ditka as the hard-ass personality.

0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:50.360
<v Speaker 3>That would scream at players and others, Bone. This is

0:37:50.420 --> 0:37:50.940
<v Speaker 3>a clip.

0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:53.359
<v Speaker 4>Now, it's a little like it sounds like it's like

0:37:53.420 --> 0:37:57.759
<v Speaker 4>literally radio from like the 1990s or whatever. But this

0:37:57.840 --> 0:38:01.330
<v Speaker 4>is a clip, Bone, of Mike Ditka's call-in show.

0:38:01.989 --> 0:38:03.390
<v Speaker 3>Sounds like being a texter.

0:38:03.570 --> 0:38:07.129
<v Speaker 4>A caller taking a run at him and Ditka just

0:38:07.190 --> 0:38:08.310
<v Speaker 4>giving it to him back.

0:38:08.770 --> 0:38:09.870
<v Speaker 3>Listen to this.

0:38:15.030 --> 0:38:18.800
<v Speaker 10>Why did it appear that Mike was holding back, trying

0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:20.960
<v Speaker 10>not to cry like the baby that he is?

0:38:23.420 --> 0:38:25.660
<v Speaker 7>Well, Neil, I tell you what you are, I can't

0:38:25.700 --> 0:38:26.500
<v Speaker 7>say on the air.

0:38:26.520 --> 0:38:31.900
<v Speaker 10>But I tell you what, I'm 53 years old. And

0:38:32.880 --> 0:38:36.910
<v Speaker 10>my office is at 250 North Washington. Anytime you want

0:38:36.950 --> 0:38:39.049
<v Speaker 10>to meet me there, you call me back on the air.

0:38:39.070 --> 0:38:41.370
<v Speaker 10>You tell me what time and when, and I'll whip

0:38:41.410 --> 0:38:46.250
<v Speaker 10>your ass. You got that, big boy?

0:38:46.270 --> 0:38:51.899
<v Speaker 7>It's easy to hide behind a microphone, son. Let's get

0:38:51.940 --> 0:38:54.500
<v Speaker 7>your face out in public, and let's live where people

0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:56.640
<v Speaker 7>have to see you every day, and we'll see who

0:38:56.660 --> 0:38:57.759
<v Speaker 7>the gutless wonder is.

0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:02.000
<v Speaker 4>I've said that to a text group before. Let's see

0:39:02.020 --> 0:39:05.219
<v Speaker 4>who that gutless wonder is. We thought Dabo teed up

0:39:05.260 --> 0:39:08.570
<v Speaker 4>Tyler from Spartanburg. He got nothing on Ditka. And that

0:39:08.660 --> 0:39:11.990
<v Speaker 4>sounded like radio from 35 years ago should sound.

0:39:12.050 --> 0:39:12.629
<v Speaker 3>It really did.

0:39:12.650 --> 0:39:14.270
<v Speaker 5>A couple other things about Mike Ditka. I can move

0:39:14.310 --> 0:39:16.630
<v Speaker 5>on to other stuff here. We also can't forget the

0:39:16.730 --> 0:39:19.840
<v Speaker 5>career that he had as a player. as a tight end,

0:39:19.890 --> 0:39:22.840
<v Speaker 5>a Hall of Fame player, had 1,000 yards as a

0:39:22.920 --> 0:39:27.430
<v Speaker 5>rookie tight end in 1961 when tight ends were not

0:39:27.489 --> 0:39:30.089
<v Speaker 5>involved in the passing game. The passing game was hardly

0:39:30.110 --> 0:39:33.960
<v Speaker 5>a huge deal back then. If I'm not mistaken, was

0:39:33.980 --> 0:39:37.239
<v Speaker 5>he the first 1,000-yard tight end in the season? Has

0:39:37.280 --> 0:39:37.520
<v Speaker 5>to be.

0:39:37.560 --> 0:39:38.319
<v Speaker 3>Back then?

0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:40.900
<v Speaker 5>1961, I think he was. I have to double-check that.

0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:44.550
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, 1,000 yards as a rookie tight end in 1961.

0:39:44.550 --> 0:39:46.790
<v Speaker 3>100%. Just running right through people.

0:39:46.890 --> 0:39:49.969
<v Speaker 5>And also, we can't forget the super fans at SNL

0:39:50.410 --> 0:39:51.470
<v Speaker 5>were the Bears.

0:39:51.790 --> 0:39:52.189
<v Speaker 1>Oh, yeah.

0:39:52.250 --> 0:39:54.529
<v Speaker 3>The mini Ditkus. Who could forget that? I loved it.

0:39:54.530 --> 0:39:55.300
<v Speaker 3>He was iconic.

0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:58.920
<v Speaker 4>That 85 championship team, iconic. And he was a perfect

0:39:58.980 --> 0:39:59.719
<v Speaker 4>coach for it.

0:40:00.020 --> 0:40:03.319
<v Speaker 6>Can't confirm, but he was the first 1,000-yard tight end.

0:40:03.820 --> 0:40:09.710
<v Speaker 6>As a rookie, 56 catches, 1,076 yards, 12 touchdowns in

0:40:09.750 --> 0:40:11.310
<v Speaker 6>a 14-game regular season.

0:40:11.489 --> 0:40:13.770
<v Speaker 5>He was a bad man. And a lot of that

0:40:13.790 --> 0:40:15.469
<v Speaker 5>was after the catch, I'm sure, too. Just give him

0:40:15.489 --> 0:40:16.190
<v Speaker 5>the ball, let him go.

0:40:18.390 --> 0:40:21.390
<v Speaker 4>I want to mention something that Barry Patch has really

0:40:21.489 --> 0:40:22.850
<v Speaker 4>once on the air, and he is right.

0:40:22.890 --> 0:40:23.970
<v Speaker 3>This has to be on the air.

0:40:24.410 --> 0:40:28.780
<v Speaker 4>The Canes, Bone, have already beaten the Flyers twice this season,

0:40:28.800 --> 0:40:31.300
<v Speaker 4>got them 4-1 last night. They have now won five

0:40:31.320 --> 0:40:34.200
<v Speaker 4>in a row, so the champs are rolling. They tweeted

0:40:34.340 --> 0:40:37.700
<v Speaker 4>out after the game that they have now won more

0:40:37.760 --> 0:40:40.750
<v Speaker 4>games in Philly than the Flyers, the Eagles, and the

0:40:40.810 --> 0:40:42.410
<v Speaker 4>Phillies combined in the last month.

0:40:45.500 --> 0:40:46.060
<v Speaker 3>Oh, got him.

0:40:46.320 --> 0:40:49.020
<v Speaker 4>Got a report. Officer, I want to report an assault

0:40:49.160 --> 0:40:52.320
<v Speaker 4>right there on Twitter. God, that's beautiful. Speaking of assault,

0:40:52.380 --> 0:40:56.160
<v Speaker 4>Mike Evans did the funniest thing yesterday. Trayvon Diggs is

0:40:56.219 --> 0:40:59.680
<v Speaker 4>in Seattle's secondary. Called up from the practice squad recently. Yeah,

0:40:59.700 --> 0:41:02.360
<v Speaker 4>weren't we sniffing around?

0:41:02.660 --> 0:41:05.300
<v Speaker 5>He was talking some form of trash yesterday to the Niners'

0:41:05.340 --> 0:41:07.969
<v Speaker 5>Mike Evans. And all we saw, Mac, was Mike Evans

0:41:08.010 --> 0:41:11.210
<v Speaker 5>say something to him. Spin him around and look at

0:41:11.250 --> 0:41:13.790
<v Speaker 5>the name at the back of his jersey because he

0:41:13.830 --> 0:41:16.270
<v Speaker 5>didn't know who he was talking to. He was surprised

0:41:16.310 --> 0:41:18.630
<v Speaker 5>Trayvon Diggs was still in the NFL.

0:41:18.950 --> 0:41:19.850
<v Speaker 3>Oh, my God.

0:41:19.989 --> 0:41:20.290
<v Speaker 1>Oh, my.

0:41:20.310 --> 0:41:23.489
<v Speaker 3>How disrespectful is that? That was so funny. Who are you?

0:41:23.550 --> 0:41:25.549
<v Speaker 4>Let me look at the back of your jersey. And

0:41:25.570 --> 0:41:27.330
<v Speaker 4>then he says after the game, I really didn't know

0:41:27.370 --> 0:41:28.229
<v Speaker 4>he was in the league.

0:41:28.290 --> 0:41:28.970
<v Speaker 3>I had no idea.

0:41:29.030 --> 0:41:32.460
<v Speaker 4>I had to see who it was. That was well played.

0:41:33.460 --> 0:41:36.960
<v Speaker 4>Niners 5-0, man. Mike Evans making plays for them, too.

0:41:37.020 --> 0:41:41.540
<v Speaker 3>Beat the Rams. Neutral site. And Seattle in Seattle already, too.

0:41:41.580 --> 0:41:43.040
<v Speaker 3>Mammoth wins. Mammoth wins.

0:41:43.340 --> 0:41:46.000
<v Speaker 4>In a division, Bone is slightly better than the NFC

0:41:46.020 --> 0:41:46.920
<v Speaker 4>South and the NFC East.

0:41:47.080 --> 0:41:47.540
<v Speaker 3>A little bit.

0:41:48.140 --> 0:41:50.259
<v Speaker 4>I need to shout out Charlotte FC. You've got to

0:41:50.280 --> 0:41:52.469
<v Speaker 4>give me another hit of that good Willie over there, Fit.

0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:54.890
<v Speaker 4>You've got to give me some of that Willie.

0:41:55.250 --> 0:41:55.969
<v Speaker 3>All right?

0:41:56.230 --> 0:41:58.810
<v Speaker 4>I need it in my system, baby. All right, we're

0:41:58.830 --> 0:42:01.310
<v Speaker 4>going to want to cut and rephrase. I'm talking Willie P, y'all.

0:42:01.390 --> 0:42:02.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm talking Willie P.

0:42:02.830 --> 0:42:07.029
<v Speaker 4>Charlotte FC falls behind 2-0 to Dallas on Saturday night.

0:42:07.730 --> 0:42:08.570
<v Speaker 3>All looks lost.

0:42:08.830 --> 0:42:12.410
<v Speaker 4>Panther Steve and his lovely wife there in the stands

0:42:12.489 --> 0:42:13.430
<v Speaker 4>all ponchoed up.

0:42:13.489 --> 0:42:14.090
<v Speaker 3>It's pouring.

0:42:14.130 --> 0:42:16.069
<v Speaker 4>It seems like it's just that the game is as

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<v Speaker 4>dark as the weather. And Charlotte FC rallies. Toklamati scores two.

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<v Speaker 4>Toffolo gets one, and it was just a beautiful night. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>we already played the game winner fit, so give me

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<v Speaker 4>maybe the second goal, because I assume Willie ramped up each.

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<v Speaker 3>Time, right? Give me calm, not yelling Willie.

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<v Speaker 4>Give me the second goal when Willie realizes, does that exist?

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<v Speaker 4>When Willie realizes we have come back and tied this match.

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<v Speaker 3>Papp sends it low into the area, headed onward, and

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<v Speaker 3>they go in!

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<v Speaker 2>Referee, let's go!

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<v Speaker 9>2-2! A set-piece magic goal for Charlotte FC!

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<v Speaker 2>And we are even at two apiece!

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<v Speaker 4>There you go, man, the P-man. That's probably about an 8.5.

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<v Speaker 4>His game-winning goal call was a 10 on the Mickey scale.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, yeah, that might be his highest rating ever. He

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<v Speaker 3>lost his mind.

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<v Speaker 4>He was shattering glass all around the Charlotte area with

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<v Speaker 4>his voice on the game winner. But Charlotte FC, they're

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<v Speaker 4>still in fifth tied. But they are three points outside

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<v Speaker 4>of second. This team, I'd just like a little more

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<v Speaker 4>urgency before we fall behind in games. That's what I'm

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<v Speaker 4>asking for, man. This team's dangerous, dude.

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<v Speaker 5>Remember the summer controversy when we thought Weatherman Mark was

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<v Speaker 5>this guy on Facebook named Mark and we got all confused?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>It turns out that we were wrong. That guy's name

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<v Speaker 5>is Mark Robbins. And the other day on Facebook, he

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<v Speaker 5>randomly just called Murphy the B-word.

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<v Speaker 3>Out of nowhere. So I said, what's wrong with you?

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<v Speaker 5>I DM him. He then says, no, you are the

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<v Speaker 5>B word. Then he sends me a picture of his dog.

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<v Speaker 3>B word.

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<v Speaker 5>Mac, attack. You, bleep hole. I said, what is wrong

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<v Speaker 5>with you? He then says, nothing. You're like family to me.

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<v Speaker 5>Love the show. Can't wait to listen on Monday. Mac,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to go ahead and say this Mark Robbins

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<v Speaker 5>might be a few meets sort of a platter.

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<v Speaker 4>Ha, ha, ha. What's going on here with this? Bone,

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<v Speaker 4>you're like a... I can draw in some marks, can't I?

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<v Speaker 4>You're like an insanity magnet on that social media thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a jigger.

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<v Speaker 4>What did I do to this guy? You are just

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<v Speaker 4>a magnet. And first of all, you're not going to

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<v Speaker 4>call Murphy that. He'll chew your legs off.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, man.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, a couple of random conclusions. Would you call

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<v Speaker 4>Mabel that, sir? You're darn right you wouldn't. If he

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<v Speaker 4>called Mabel that, he would actually be correct.

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<v Speaker 3>Right? Like literally. Isn't that what they call female dogs?

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<v Speaker 7>Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, my God.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying it would be an actual correct term.

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<v Speaker 3>The text line's not going to like that one.

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<v Speaker 4>I've used this before, and the text line got mad.

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<v Speaker 3>She's gone.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm talking literally, though. Like, literally, that's what they called

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<v Speaker 4>a female dog.

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<v Speaker 3>Mabel was like the Dolly Parton of the Charlotte Dog World.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, a couple of things real quick, because Fitty's

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<v Speaker 3>telling me to shut up, all right?

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<v Speaker 2>We have Dave Paulson in two minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>You NFL fans in England, anybody else notice how much

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<v Speaker 4>they love painting their entire face? They're very into the

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<v Speaker 4>face paint. Also, shout out to an Ole Miss mom.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if you saw this phone during Ole

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<v Speaker 4>Miss Vanderbilt. There was a mom that was holding the

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<v Speaker 4>baby and a Coors Light can simultaneously.

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<v Speaker 3>That is good parenting right there. That's beautiful. Beautiful.

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<v Speaker 5>When we come back, Dave Clawson talks ACC. Dave now

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<v Speaker 5>with the ACC Network. We talk about a school he

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<v Speaker 5>knows well in Wake and more on Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.